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If my boss knew my brother
was a convicted armed robber...
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I kicked Ade out last night.
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I don't want Andy to know.
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This was the horrific murder
of a vulnerable adult.
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Darren Rigby. 37 years old.
Living in Rochdale.
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The second victim is Keith Fleming.
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Both these men were held captive
for up to a week before they died.
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Suggesting that they were tortured.
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Nadia Hicks.
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Do you mind popping to the station?
I haven't done owt.
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Lad rang on the incident number,
frightened out of his wits.
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He said it isn't just Nadia,
it isn't Nadia's fault.
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Sean.
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I've got to go to work.
You can't stay here.
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No, you're all right. I'm on 3-11.
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So what? I'm not. Come on, shift.
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Sean!
Ohh!
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No. You might just have to miss
drama group this week.
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Why should I?
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Because logistically,
it's just not do-able!
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Couldn't I take them in a taxi?
Yes, Mum, you could. But.
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Sounds good to me.
They're in separate groups.
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You have to take one, come back,
take the other,
pick up the first one,
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then go back a third time
to fetch the second.
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It's... It's ridiculous!
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I don't mind not going.
Can I ask my dad to take us?
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You can. Please do.
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But assuming he might be playing
silly beggars, I wouldn't hold
your breath.
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I'll work something out.
I will make sure, one way
or another, that they get there.
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So... That was good, then.
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Yeah. It was all right.
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It was brilliant.
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Always is.
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I've got to go.
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Give me a ring if there's anything
that you're not sure of.
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And it's going to be ten o'clock
again tonight before I get in.
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So I hope that's OK.
We're really stretched on this one.
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I knew Keith Fleming.
Did you?
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When I was at Fulbrook High
in the 1980s.
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He'd just qualified.
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I think that's where
he met his wife.
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And... was he...
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A paedophile?
Well...
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We haven't found anything
to suggest that.
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Right. Have a good day.
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Be good. Be polite.
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Be brainy.
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Don't you go overdoing it.
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Thanks, Mum.
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House-to-house has thrown up
a number of names Nadia routinely
knocks about with.
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Three of those names cropped up
on her intelligence record.
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Anthony Stainfield, Nikki Madden,
Liam Welsh.
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The four of them were stopped in
a car two and a bit months since.
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A shitty, no insurance, no MOT.
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It was impounded, so we've
still got it over at Collyhurst.
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Given that it's reasonable to
assume some sort of vehicle was used
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to take Darren Rigby
to where he was set on fire,
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I want this car gone over
thoroughly, first job this morning.
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Let's get somebody over there, Andy,
with a CSI.
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Stainfield and Madden's address
is next door but one to Nadia's.
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So we should have spoken to them
by now in the house-to-house.
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But so far they haven't answered
their door which... God knows.
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This, I'm confident from his arrest
photo on a previous, is Liam Welsh.
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Address: 22 Ashburnham Road,
Ashfield.
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So let's pick him up for...
Well, suspicion of murder.
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He's got one of our victims'
debit cards.
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Any news on the lad in the phone box?
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Syndicate Three has picked it up.
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DCI Dodson...
don't say anything, Kevin... is
SIO-ing the scene for us and the PM.
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Aren't we assuming
that they're linked?
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No, we're assuming
they might be linked.
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The fact that he appears to have
known something about the people
we're looking for
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suggests it's connected.
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But equally, it doesn't mean
that was why he was killed.
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Has he been identified?
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His face was so badly pulped,
he's unrecognisable.
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And there's no match
with his fingerprints or DNA
from our database?
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Has the CSM found anything
in Nadia's house
that we need to know about?
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Not yet.
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What are you charging Nadia with
for what she did to Rachel, ma'am?
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GBH with intent.
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So if she makes a complaint
against me for twatting her over
the head with a fire extinguisher?
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She'll be wasting her time.
What was she thinking?
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Trying to throttle a police officer
in broad daylight!
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Apart from the fact that
she appears to be involved in
torturing and murdering people.
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Nadia's not paid to think, boss.
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OK, let's have another go at trying
to get Nadia to talk to us.
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OK, Nadia, have you had any
thoughts overnight about anything?
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Anything that you want to say to me?
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Or tell me?
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Or ask me?
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OK, Nadia. Moving on.
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Can you tell me, do you know a lad
called Liam Welsh?
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No.
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Do you know anyone who has owned
or had access to a white Vauxhall
Astra in the last six months?
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No.
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A couple of months ago, Nadia, you
were in a white Vauxhall Astra that
was stopped by a police officer.
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What can you tell me about that?
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Just got stopped.
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I weren't doing anything.
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Who were you with?
Mates.
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So I'll ask you again.
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Do you know Liam Welsh?
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No comment.
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Nadia, I think you do know
Liam Welsh.
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When did you last see him?
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No comment.
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Have you seen him since you were
with him in the vehicle
that got stop-checked?
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No comment.
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OK.
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Have you got any idea how or why,
two days ago,
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Liam Welsh was using
Keith Fleming's debit card?
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No comment.
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The same debit card that
Keith Fleming used at the ATM
in the Queen's Hotel
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when you went over to talk to him
and watched him
put his PIN number in.
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Have you got any ideas
how Liam Welsh might have got hold
of that card?
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No comment.
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How well do you know Nikki Madden?
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She lives next door but one to you.
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I don't.
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How well do you know
Anthony Stainfield?
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No comment.
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How many times have you been
in a car with Nikki Madden
or Anthony Stainfield?
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No comment.
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They were the names given by the
other people that you were with
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in the white Vauxhall Astra that
was stopped by the police officer.
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How do you explain that?
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No comment.
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Are you up?
It's good you're still seeing Sean.
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I'm not still seeing Sean, Dom.
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He just... stayed over.
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How's your neck?
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Listen... It's fine.
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I've left you a Ј20 note
by the kettle.
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I want you to get a bus into town,
buy yourself a newspaper
and go to the job centre.
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Go into all the big hotels
and restaurants.
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Ask if they've got any jobs going
in the kitchen.
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If they haven't, then leave them
your phone number.
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So they can get hold of you
if something crops up later.
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Have you found it?
Yeah.
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Right. There's cereal, there's bread,
there's tea, there's milk.
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Get some breakfast inside you
and text me.
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Let me know how you're getting on.
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Dom?
Yeah, yeah.
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Right. I've got to go.
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Liam Welsh, not at the address
in Ashburnham Road.
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Step-dad said he hadn't seen him
for three or four days and
didn't see much of him anyway.
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Have they searched it?
Yeah.
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Hiya, Slap!
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We've identified the lad.
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Aaron Hicks. 17 years old.
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Hicks. Not?
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Yeah. Brother of that girl
you've arrested.
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Andy, telephone box lad
is Nadia's brother.
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Aaron Hicks.
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I tell you what, that post mortem.
Did you get my email?
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Every bone in his head shattered.
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Half his brain
spread across the pavement.
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Neck broken in three places.
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It's very different if it's
the same people... person... to what
they did to Rigby and Fleming.
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Yeah. This was frenzied.
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And some.
Yeah.
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But whoever did this was shutting
this boy up fast.
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It was a very different kind
of assault.
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It was expedient,
but it was just as vicious.
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Oh, you know she's his next of kin,
don't you? Nadia.
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There's no parents.
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Can you get one of your people in
to break it to her?
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Sure.
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Rachel.
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There's blood in the boot
and an empty petrol container.
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Hold on.
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Boss.
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Sorry.
Blood in the boot of the Astra.
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Just a second, Slap. Bring it in.
We'll fast-track it down the lab.
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Did you hear that?
Yeah.
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That Astra was registered as scrap
18 months ago. October 2010.
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I want to know everyone who's
driven it since it went bandit.
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And specifically when Stainfield
or Madden got possession of it.
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You want to wait for the results
of this blood?
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No. It's blood and that car
was seized from them.
I'm happy to make an arrest.
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Let's go knocking on their door
again. A bit louder this time.
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Are you still there?
Did you hear that?
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Yep.
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Police! Open the door!
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You're catching the dog.
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OK.
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Police!
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Oi! Oi!
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Police! Show yourselves!
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Police!
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Bleach.
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Whoa! Steady! Steady!
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Out you come.
Hands where I can see them.
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Manchester Metropolitan Police
Major Incident Team.
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What's your name?
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Why?
Just give the officer your name.
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Come on, it's not rocket science.
Nikki.
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Nikki what?
You're hurting me.
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Nikki what?
Come on out. I can see you.
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I'm arresting you
on suspicion of murder.
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Why?
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If you do not mention, when
questioned, something you later
rely on in court.
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What's your name?
Anthony Stainfield.
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Your full name.
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Anthony... John... Stainfield.
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Is that your car outside?
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Right, put that on.
Let's get him downstairs.
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Last night?
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The reason we haven't told you
any sooner is we've only just
identified him.
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Is there anything
you want to ask me?
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Aaron was badly assaulted
before he died.
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As yet, we've got no leads as to
who might have done this to him.
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What I need you to think about
for me, Nadia,
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and for Aaron,
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is anyone he might have been
frightened of,
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anyone who had a grudge against him,
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anyone he owed money to.
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I'm going to give you
some time to yourself.
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But then Detective Constable Scott
is going to come back in
and she'll talk to you.
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And see if you've had any thoughts.
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All right?
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Is there anyone you'd like us
to tell?
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There is no-one else.
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Ooh! What's all this, then, lady?
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Who are they from?
No-one.
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Who?
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Oh, yeah, I forgot. I sent them.
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Did you?
No.
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Stainfield and Madden checked in.
Currently availing themselves
of our ensuite facilities.
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Any sign of Liam Welsh?
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I suppose that would have been
too easy.
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Result from Keith Fleming's
anal swab...
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Anthony Stainfield's semen.
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So pending just a bit more
forensic evidence from the house,
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I need to get Stainfield
and Madden talking.
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I want to hear all their lies,
all their rubbish, all their shit.
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In round two, we try and piece
together what did happen,
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more than likely,
in that room they bleached.
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00:14:35,650 --> 00:14:37,650
Oh, I think he likes you, ma'am!
244
00:14:38,450 --> 00:14:42,649
Janet, get back in with Nadia.
She had a telling reaction
to being told her brother was dead.
245
00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:45,609
Telling, how?
I know everyone reacts differently,
246
00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:47,650
but she didn't ask me one question.
247
00:14:47,650 --> 00:14:50,570
Maybe that's because she already
knows the answers.
248
00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:54,529
You're FLO-ing on the Keith Fleming
job, aren't you?
249
00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:56,169
Yep.
How is his wife?
250
00:14:56,170 --> 00:14:59,049
She's put in a complaint about you.
What?! I didn't do anything.
251
00:14:59,050 --> 00:15:01,089
Implying her husband
was a paedophile.
252
00:15:01,090 --> 00:15:03,129
I didn't. She implied it herself.
253
00:15:03,130 --> 00:15:05,289
You've got to be more delicate
with folk.
254
00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:07,329
OK. I don't know what she's told you.
255
00:15:07,330 --> 00:15:10,169
I did the job as delicately,
as kindly, as I could.
256
00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:12,209
She just went off on one.
257
00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:16,049
She's a very intelligent lady. She's
not going to be making stuff up.
258
00:15:16,050 --> 00:15:18,089
She's not...
259
00:15:18,090 --> 00:15:22,609
How much service have you got?
Can I introduce you
to the great British public?
260
00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:25,330
You've not got the hots
for the widow, have you?
261
00:15:25,330 --> 00:15:27,450
It might all be crossed wires,
Rachel.
262
00:15:28,730 --> 00:15:30,889
I just think you can
come across as...
263
00:15:30,890 --> 00:15:32,929
What?
264
00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:34,969
Aggressive. Sometimes.
265
00:15:34,970 --> 00:15:37,009
Oh, fuck off.
266
00:15:37,010 --> 00:15:39,449
I rest my case.
267
00:15:39,450 --> 00:15:43,169
So you are aware, Anthony, that
this interview is being videoed.
268
00:15:43,170 --> 00:15:46,009
And it may be shown in court,
should we get that far.
269
00:15:46,010 --> 00:15:51,009
Before we start, my client has
informed me that he doesn't intend
to answer any of your questions.
270
00:15:51,010 --> 00:15:52,649
That's his prerogative.
271
00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:57,369
You are aware I am going to ask
the questions anyway. Have you made
that clear to him?
272
00:15:57,370 --> 00:15:59,410
I have, yes.
OK.
273
00:15:59,410 --> 00:16:03,130
Anthony, we are investigating
the murder of Darren Rigby.
274
00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:06,849
And the murder of Keith Fleming.
275
00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:10,089
I'd like to talk to you about these
two murders individually.
276
00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:14,250
So Anthony, could you tell me
what you know about the murder
of Darren Rigby?
277
00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:16,250
No comment.
278
00:16:19,250 --> 00:16:21,250
Have you ever seen this man before?
279
00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,490
It's Darren Rigby.
280
00:16:25,490 --> 00:16:27,490
The man who was murdered.
281
00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:30,570
No comment.
282
00:16:31,970 --> 00:16:33,970
Has this man ever been in your house?
283
00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:37,690
No comment.
284
00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:39,970
I do appreciate how upset you are,
Nadia.
285
00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:44,850
But at the same time, you are under
arrest on suspicion of murder.
286
00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:49,530
And we are obliged to move forward
with that enquiry.
287
00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:54,529
Now we have reason to believe
that there may be a link
288
00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:56,889
between whoever killed Keith
and Darren
289
00:16:56,890 --> 00:16:59,009
and whoever killed your brother.
290
00:16:59,010 --> 00:17:02,409
We know that you weren't responsible
for your brother's death
291
00:17:02,410 --> 00:17:05,130
because you were here with us
when that happened.
292
00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:08,010
So I'm going to ask you a question
I've asked before.
293
00:17:10,290 --> 00:17:14,050
Do you know Nikki Madden
and Anthony Stainfield?
294
00:17:18,610 --> 00:17:22,449
Like I told you, Nadia, they live
next door but one to you.
295
00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:24,489
No comment.
296
00:17:24,490 --> 00:17:28,289
They were in the same car you were
in two months ago, with Liam Welsh,
297
00:17:28,290 --> 00:17:31,010
when the four of you
were stopped by the police.
298
00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:33,010
So we know that you know them.
299
00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:37,570
Can you describe your relationship
with them to me?
300
00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:41,210
No comment.
301
00:17:44,210 --> 00:17:49,569
Nadia, the advice that
your solicitor has given to you
not to comment is just that.
302
00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:53,329
Advice. You can decide to speak
to us if you want to.
303
00:17:53,330 --> 00:17:56,569
Can I just remind you that
if you are charged with murder,
304
00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:59,769
it will be you
standing in that dock in court.
305
00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:01,809
Not him.
306
00:18:01,810 --> 00:18:05,929
So if you've got anything to say
to us that will help you or us,
307
00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:08,970
I would advise you to give us
your side of events.
308
00:18:08,970 --> 00:18:10,970
No comment.
309
00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:22,489
Would you like a cup of tea?
310
00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:24,530
No comment.
311
00:18:24,530 --> 00:18:26,530
No...
312
00:18:27,970 --> 00:18:32,250
Nadia, I'm asking you,
would you like a cup of tea?
313
00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:46,649
Oh, ma'am...
That should be in a police kennel.
314
00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:49,689
I know, but Andy wants me
to get its DNA and paw prints.
315
00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:51,729
So do I do that downstairs?
316
00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:55,009
Like... You know... Humans.
317
00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:57,129
Or...
318
00:18:57,130 --> 00:18:59,170
So what do I...
319
00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:04,090
Who might be able to help with
doggie DNA and doggie paw prints?
320
00:19:06,050 --> 00:19:08,050
Think about it.
321
00:19:09,850 --> 00:19:11,889
A vet?
322
00:19:11,890 --> 00:19:13,929
Any vet?
I don't know!
323
00:19:13,930 --> 00:19:15,970
Pick up the phone and ring round.
324
00:19:15,970 --> 00:19:19,130
Call the dog section.
And get a CSI to go with you.
325
00:19:21,090 --> 00:19:24,089
What drew you to MIT, Kevin?
326
00:19:24,090 --> 00:19:26,130
Oh, you know, kudos.
327
00:19:26,130 --> 00:19:28,130
Chick magnet. That sort of...
328
00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:31,489
thing.
329
00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:35,450
Good afternoon, this is DC Lumb,
MIT. I'm wondering
if you're able to help me.
330
00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:37,450
No comment.
331
00:19:41,370 --> 00:19:45,130
The dog. The one that was
in your house, Nikki.
332
00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:48,250
Is that your dog?
333
00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:50,250
No comment.
334
00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:53,729
Do you know whose dog it is?
335
00:19:53,730 --> 00:19:55,769
No comment.
336
00:19:55,770 --> 00:19:57,809
Do you know where the dog came from?
337
00:19:57,810 --> 00:19:59,850
No comment.
338
00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:01,850
Why was the dog at your house?
339
00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:05,810
No comment.
340
00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:11,129
Anthony, did you abduct Darren Rigby?
341
00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:13,169
No comment.
342
00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:16,529
Were you involved in causing
any injuries to Darren Rigby?
343
00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:18,569
No comment.
344
00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:21,609
What physical contact did you have
with Darren Rigby?
345
00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:23,649
No comment.
346
00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:26,610
What sexual contact did you have
with Darren Rigby?
347
00:20:26,610 --> 00:20:28,610
No comment.
348
00:20:29,490 --> 00:20:31,490
Did you murder Darren Rigby?
349
00:20:32,530 --> 00:20:35,770
♪ No comment ♪
350
00:20:38,890 --> 00:20:40,929
Can I remind you, Anthony,
351
00:20:40,930 --> 00:20:46,250
that we are talking about
the sickening, horrendous murder
of a vulnerable man?
352
00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:48,810
Could you not sing at me?
353
00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:53,850
This tape may be shown to a jury
at some point in the future.
354
00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:57,450
Do you not think that your attitude
might come across as unusual?
355
00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:04,369
Oh, what a day! No bugger talking.
356
00:21:04,370 --> 00:21:07,769
And it's going to take Forensics
ten times longer than normal
357
00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:10,729
because of all the bleach
they've splashed around.
358
00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:12,849
What about the car outside his house?
359
00:21:12,850 --> 00:21:14,889
Same. They've bleached the boot.
360
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:18,849
Nice bit of circumstantial,
but nothing you can guarantee
they won't wriggle off on.
361
00:21:18,850 --> 00:21:22,209
We've still got the blood
in the boot of the white Vauxhall.
362
00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:24,769
Still pending a match
with Darren Rigby's blood.
363
00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:27,409
How come?
We've not had a positive result yet.
364
00:21:27,410 --> 00:21:30,329
I heard her bollocking
some poor bugger at the lab.
365
00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:34,569
'I'm not paying for a fucking
premium rate result
and it taking this long!'
366
00:21:34,570 --> 00:21:36,609
What about Liam Welsh?
367
00:21:36,610 --> 00:21:40,969
They've checked all his known
addresses, known associates.
368
00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:43,809
He's circulated as wanted on PNC.
369
00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:46,770
But I assume he's worked out
he's in it up to his neck.
370
00:21:46,770 --> 00:21:49,770
So he'll be on his toes. I would be.
371
00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:55,969
OK, go home. Get your heads down.
372
00:21:55,970 --> 00:21:58,809
Let's kick it off seven o'clock
tomorrow morning.
373
00:21:58,810 --> 00:22:00,849
You're doing really well.
374
00:22:00,850 --> 00:22:02,889
All of you. Honestly.
375
00:22:02,890 --> 00:22:04,929
It's just...
376
00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:09,249
Old story. Just need to get
one of them talking
pending forensic evidence.
377
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:14,089
And we will get some. I just need
one of them talking
and the other two will follow suit.
378
00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:16,129
It's just finding a key.
379
00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:20,769
Shit, why would you defend people
you knew had murdered your brother?
380
00:22:20,770 --> 00:22:23,729
I mean, it isn't like
she's not upset about it, is it?
381
00:22:23,730 --> 00:22:25,129
No, not in the least.
382
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:27,169
What have they got over her?
383
00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:29,689
They killed Darren
because they needed to.
384
00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:32,810
Because they couldn't rely on him
to keep his gob shut.
385
00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:35,130
Assuming it was them
that killed Darren.
386
00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:40,409
We need Liam.
Well, we'll get him.
387
00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:44,049
This is a lad who sits for three
weeks between arrests on average.
388
00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:46,090
So night-night!
389
00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:48,090
Thinking caps back on tomorrow.
390
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:54,570
Night.
391
00:22:54,570 --> 00:22:57,010
Are we still on for tomorrow night,
birthday person?
392
00:22:57,011 --> 00:23:00,049
Haven't you got enough on at home
with your mum and Ade?
393
00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:02,969
Um... Did you work out
who those flowers were from?
394
00:23:02,970 --> 00:23:05,010
I know who it will be.
Who?
395
00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:07,010
In fact...
Who?!
396
00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:11,809
Night.
397
00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:13,850
Who?
398
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,850
Have you got time for a drink or...
399
00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:20,009
Do you mind?
400
00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:21,849
Good night.
401
00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:23,889
Night.
402
00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:25,929
Hallelujah!
403
00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:28,369
We've had a call from CID at Euston.
404
00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:31,969
British Transport Police
stop-checked a lad
they suspected of soliciting.
405
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:34,009
Euston?
Liam Welsh.
406
00:23:34,010 --> 00:23:36,930
They PNC'd him.
Saw we'd circulated him as wanted.
407
00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:41,570
They've arrested him. Vinnie's
getting me a couple of night crew
to drive down and pick him up.
408
00:23:41,913 --> 00:23:44,433
Adrian took the girls
to their drama group.
409
00:23:44,433 --> 00:23:46,433
Hm. Did you see him?
410
00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:50,433
No. He just sent them a text
and waited outside.
411
00:23:51,793 --> 00:23:59,112
Janet, I honestly didn't say
anything to him that could be
in any way misconstrued.
412
00:23:59,113 --> 00:24:01,152
Mum, it's fine.
413
00:24:01,153 --> 00:24:03,193
It wasn't about you.
414
00:24:03,193 --> 00:24:05,593
Has Taisie been all right?
415
00:24:06,833 --> 00:24:08,872
Not really.
416
00:24:08,873 --> 00:24:11,912
I think I should go home and manage.
417
00:24:11,913 --> 00:24:14,272
And Adrian should move back in.
418
00:24:14,273 --> 00:24:16,312
No.
419
00:24:16,313 --> 00:24:18,633
It's over.
It's been over for some time.
420
00:24:18,633 --> 00:24:22,513
I've only put up with it because of
practical things like the girls...
421
00:24:26,953 --> 00:24:30,432
I've been... a wimp actually.
422
00:24:30,433 --> 00:24:32,472
If I'm being honest.
423
00:24:32,473 --> 00:24:36,152
I've pretended that there was
nothing wrong. And there is.
424
00:24:36,153 --> 00:24:39,393
We don't go anywhere together,
we don't do anything together.
425
00:24:39,393 --> 00:24:41,153
Isn't that because of your job?
No.
426
00:24:41,154 --> 00:24:44,873
If we wanted to do stuff together,
we would. You find time.
427
00:24:44,873 --> 00:24:48,313
Look at Rachel. She's got a life.
She works just as hard as I do.
428
00:24:50,753 --> 00:24:52,753
I come in and often...
429
00:24:54,153 --> 00:24:57,113
He just looks so miserable.
430
00:24:58,953 --> 00:25:01,712
I don't make him happy.
He doesn't make me happy.
431
00:25:01,713 --> 00:25:03,752
Why go on?
For the girls.
432
00:25:03,753 --> 00:25:09,313
And Rachel is 15 years younger than
you. She has no responsibilities.
433
00:25:09,313 --> 00:25:11,513
I've been doing it
for the girls for...
434
00:25:13,313 --> 00:25:16,753
God, longer than I care to remember.
435
00:25:16,753 --> 00:25:21,593
There comes a point when it ceases
to be the responsible thing to do
frankly.
436
00:25:24,113 --> 00:25:26,113
Somehow.
437
00:25:28,993 --> 00:25:30,993
Is there someone else?
438
00:25:34,113 --> 00:25:36,113
No.
439
00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:57,433
Who's that?
440
00:26:05,873 --> 00:26:07,873
I've just knocked off.
441
00:26:08,993 --> 00:26:14,713
Well, you see, this is the
difference between you lightweights
in uniform and us detectives.
442
00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:19,593
You were on 3-11. I started work
at eight o'clock this morning.
443
00:26:19,593 --> 00:26:21,593
And we've both just knocked off.
444
00:26:22,673 --> 00:26:24,713
So are you putting the kettle on?
445
00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:27,393
No, Sean. I'm going to bed.
446
00:26:28,993 --> 00:26:31,673
On my own.
Oh, that's no fun, is it?
447
00:26:33,393 --> 00:26:35,432
Come on, move along now.
448
00:26:35,433 --> 00:26:37,472
It's your birthday tomorrow.
449
00:26:37,473 --> 00:26:39,513
Is it?
450
00:26:39,513 --> 00:26:41,793
So what are we doing?
Where are we going?
451
00:26:45,233 --> 00:26:47,233
What's the question?
452
00:26:48,833 --> 00:26:50,873
Nothing. Go on, go to bed.
453
00:26:50,873 --> 00:26:52,873
I'll ring you tomorrow.
454
00:26:53,873 --> 00:26:55,953
I thought I had to tell you
something.
455
00:26:57,073 --> 00:26:59,073
What?
456
00:27:00,393 --> 00:27:02,433
Can't remember.
457
00:27:02,433 --> 00:27:04,713
It will come back to me
when you've gone.
458
00:27:06,353 --> 00:27:08,353
See you.
459
00:27:12,153 --> 00:27:15,753
Oh, yeah. Thanks for the flowers,
knobhead.
460
00:27:22,633 --> 00:27:27,072
Do you understand everything
I've explained to you
about your rights, Liam?
461
00:27:27,073 --> 00:27:29,113
Yep.
OK.
462
00:27:29,113 --> 00:27:33,233
So can you tell me what you know
about the murder of Darren Rigby?
463
00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:39,113
No comment.
464
00:27:39,113 --> 00:27:41,113
Have you ever met Darren Rigby?
465
00:27:42,433 --> 00:27:44,472
No comment.
466
00:27:44,473 --> 00:27:47,032
Have you ever been in
a white Vauxhall Astra?
467
00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:49,072
No comment.
468
00:27:49,073 --> 00:27:51,112
Boss, bit of a problem.
469
00:27:51,113 --> 00:27:56,553
Janet's not been able to kick off
the interview with Nadia again.
The solicitor's not turned up.
470
00:27:56,553 --> 00:28:01,593
Can you remember who was in
the Astra with you when you were
stopped by the police officer?
471
00:28:04,753 --> 00:28:07,312
Have you got his mobile number?
I've rung it.
472
00:28:07,313 --> 00:28:09,352
You've rung his office?
473
00:28:09,353 --> 00:28:12,272
Something has cropped up apparently
with another client.
474
00:28:12,273 --> 00:28:15,792
We're on a PACE clock. We've only
got her for another six hours.
475
00:28:15,793 --> 00:28:17,833
What does he not get?
476
00:28:17,833 --> 00:28:20,153
It's always the same ones.
DC Scott, MIT.
477
00:28:22,113 --> 00:28:24,153
Boss, it's him. The solicitor.
478
00:28:24,153 --> 00:28:26,593
He's just arrived.
He's just downstairs.
479
00:28:28,753 --> 00:28:30,792
Mr Cottrell, DCI Murray.
480
00:28:30,793 --> 00:28:32,832
It's half-past eleven.
481
00:28:32,833 --> 00:28:36,392
We agreed last night
you'd be back in here
at eight o'clock this morning.
482
00:28:36,393 --> 00:28:41,472
The first time we had this
conversation was over a year ago and
it's happened several times since.
483
00:28:41,473 --> 00:28:46,553
Last time, I said I'd report you
to the Law Society. I didn't.
This time, all bets are off.
484
00:28:46,553 --> 00:28:51,673
Get in that interview room now or
I'm talking to your senior partner
and your arse is grass.
485
00:29:06,233 --> 00:29:12,912
OK, Nadia, I have to tell you again
that you have been arrested
on suspicion of murder.
486
00:29:12,913 --> 00:29:17,352
And I need to remind you that this
interview is being video-recorded.
487
00:29:17,353 --> 00:29:18,433
And...
488
00:29:18,433 --> 00:29:21,113
I saw Liam's name on the board
outside the cells.
489
00:29:22,633 --> 00:29:24,673
Does that mean you've got him?
490
00:29:27,793 --> 00:29:29,833
Yes.
491
00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:31,833
He was arrested last night.
492
00:29:34,953 --> 00:29:36,992
Are you charging him with our Aaron?
493
00:29:36,993 --> 00:29:40,993
We're not dealing with what happened
to Aaron. Another syndicate is.
494
00:29:40,993 --> 00:29:46,553
But do you have reason to believe
that Liam might have had something
to do with your brother's death?
495
00:29:56,433 --> 00:29:58,472
He knew things.
496
00:29:58,473 --> 00:30:00,512
What went on at that house.
497
00:30:00,513 --> 00:30:02,552
Aaron did.
498
00:30:02,553 --> 00:30:04,592
Nadia, can I just remind you...
499
00:30:04,593 --> 00:30:07,912
Hiya. Can you tell the boss
that Nadia's started talking?
500
00:30:07,913 --> 00:30:09,913
I understand that. I'm not thick.
501
00:30:09,913 --> 00:30:13,993
The thing is, Tony and Liam
between them, they're...
502
00:30:15,433 --> 00:30:17,433
evil and weird.
503
00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:22,873
Liam will try and tell you
that it was all me and Nikki.
504
00:30:22,873 --> 00:30:24,873
But it weren't.
505
00:30:26,793 --> 00:30:29,273
Can you just start
at the beginning, Nadia?
506
00:30:30,273 --> 00:30:33,833
How is Liam connected
to Nikki and Tony?
507
00:30:35,233 --> 00:30:37,272
Our Aaron.
508
00:30:37,273 --> 00:30:39,272
He took him round there.
509
00:30:39,273 --> 00:30:41,353
Liam.
510
00:30:41,353 --> 00:30:43,353
When they were friends.
511
00:30:45,113 --> 00:30:48,233
And then he started going round
there without our Aaron.
512
00:30:50,993 --> 00:30:53,073
I don't know. I don't know.
513
00:30:53,073 --> 00:30:55,073
Him and Liam...
514
00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:02,673
Are you going to tell me what
happened to Darren Rigby?
515
00:31:03,993 --> 00:31:06,072
Nadia?
516
00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:10,793
Liam... reckoned
Darren owed him Ј5 for t'dog.
517
00:31:10,793 --> 00:31:12,873
You know, the one
you asked me about.
518
00:31:14,473 --> 00:31:16,513
Darren said that he didn't.
519
00:31:16,513 --> 00:31:18,513
And that he'd already paid him.
520
00:31:20,273 --> 00:31:23,152
So they decided
to teach him a lesson.
521
00:31:23,153 --> 00:31:25,192
Who did?
522
00:31:25,193 --> 00:31:27,193
Tony and Liam.
523
00:31:27,193 --> 00:31:29,233
What about Nikki?
524
00:31:37,233 --> 00:31:39,992
She picked up Darren and Keith
simply as punters.
525
00:31:39,993 --> 00:31:44,152
She had no idea, she says, at that
stage, what they were going
to do to them.
526
00:31:44,153 --> 00:31:46,192
I buy that with Darren Rigby.
527
00:31:46,193 --> 00:31:48,192
Not with Keith Fleming.
528
00:31:48,193 --> 00:31:50,792
She picks men up all the time
for money. It's her job.
529
00:31:50,793 --> 00:31:53,712
She picked up plenty of other men,
between Darren and Keith,
530
00:31:53,713 --> 00:31:57,472
who Stainfield and Liam
hadn't lured round to the other
house and pounced on.
531
00:31:57,473 --> 00:32:01,552
OK, but Nikki Madden, she lives in
that house. She must have known
what was going on.
532
00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:03,552
Of course she did.
533
00:32:03,553 --> 00:32:06,432
But she won't talk about Nikki.
She just cries.
534
00:32:06,433 --> 00:32:08,472
Why?
535
00:32:08,473 --> 00:32:10,832
I think that she's in love with her.
536
00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:15,992
I think that that's the reason
she's been silent. To protect Nikki.
537
00:32:15,993 --> 00:32:21,992
It's been a toss-up for her whether
to protect Nikki or dob
Stainfield and Liam in it.
538
00:32:21,993 --> 00:32:25,272
And she couldn't dob them in it
without implicating Nikki.
539
00:32:25,273 --> 00:32:27,353
OK. Let's get back in there.
540
00:32:27,353 --> 00:32:30,553
See how the others react
once they know Nadia's talking.
541
00:32:35,913 --> 00:32:37,912
It was all Nikki's idea.
542
00:32:37,913 --> 00:32:39,992
All the stuff we did to him.
543
00:32:39,993 --> 00:32:42,632
It were Tony did stuff.
544
00:32:42,633 --> 00:32:45,192
But Liam were the one egging him on.
545
00:32:45,193 --> 00:32:47,192
Tony can be a nutter.
546
00:32:47,193 --> 00:32:49,352
Liam's a freak.
547
00:32:49,353 --> 00:32:51,433
Nikki's evil.
548
00:32:51,433 --> 00:32:53,433
Nikki and Nadia together...
549
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:58,153
Tony's terrified of Nikki.
550
00:32:58,153 --> 00:33:01,753
She made him give that second bloke
one up the arse.
551
00:33:02,713 --> 00:33:04,712
She made him.
552
00:33:04,713 --> 00:33:08,352
Can we start at the beginning?
Can we go right back?
553
00:33:08,353 --> 00:33:11,553
Going back to the night that Aaron
was round at your house,
554
00:33:11,553 --> 00:33:16,513
and told Liam that Darren was round
at Nadia's house with the dog
that he owed this Ј5 for.
555
00:33:17,713 --> 00:33:19,713
God, now you're asking.
556
00:33:21,153 --> 00:33:22,793
I've slept since then.
557
00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:26,793
So Aaron were round ours whingeing
about Darren being round at Nadia's.
558
00:33:27,913 --> 00:33:31,913
Tony said, 'Ring Nadia. Get her
to bring Darren round here.
559
00:33:31,913 --> 00:33:33,993
And I'll get your Ј5
off him for you.'
560
00:33:35,833 --> 00:33:38,752
I don't think he wanted Liam
to get the Ј5.
561
00:33:38,753 --> 00:33:44,833
I think he wanted Darren
round at our house to, like,
prove something to Liam.
562
00:33:44,833 --> 00:33:46,873
That he's a hard man.
563
00:33:47,913 --> 00:33:53,713
I think he would have been
disappointed if Darren
had give him the Ј5.
564
00:33:53,713 --> 00:33:55,793
How did Darren
end up in the bedroom?
565
00:33:57,713 --> 00:34:00,272
I think he was so pissed,
he just crashed out.
566
00:34:00,273 --> 00:34:03,993
So he went upstairs by himself.
567
00:34:03,993 --> 00:34:06,593
I don't know. I don't know
how he got upstairs.
568
00:34:08,393 --> 00:34:12,113
But I could still hear Tony going
on at him after he went upstairs.
569
00:34:12,113 --> 00:34:14,473
I don't know. I went home.
570
00:34:16,833 --> 00:34:19,433
I didn't know they were going to
keep him there.
571
00:34:20,993 --> 00:34:23,992
Next morning, I'd crashed.
572
00:34:23,993 --> 00:34:26,552
Darren had puked everywhere.
573
00:34:26,553 --> 00:34:28,632
All down his self.
574
00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:30,633
Nikki was shouting at him.
575
00:34:30,633 --> 00:34:32,673
'You dirty bastard', like this.
576
00:34:34,193 --> 00:34:36,192
She made him take his clothes off.
577
00:34:36,193 --> 00:34:39,552
So she could wash him, she said.
578
00:34:39,553 --> 00:34:41,632
Filthy git.
579
00:34:41,633 --> 00:34:44,432
So I'm downstairs.
580
00:34:44,433 --> 00:34:47,192
I was downstairs.
I'd gone out.
581
00:34:47,193 --> 00:34:49,832
And I heard this banging.
582
00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:53,712
Like nails being knocked into wood.
583
00:34:53,713 --> 00:34:58,712
Nikki and Nadia, it were them two
strung him up on the door.
584
00:34:58,713 --> 00:35:02,352
I come home mid-afternoon.
585
00:35:02,353 --> 00:35:04,352
And there he was.
586
00:35:04,353 --> 00:35:07,552
Like, 'What are you playing at?
587
00:35:07,553 --> 00:35:09,633
What are you doing?'
588
00:35:09,633 --> 00:35:11,633
He were crying.
589
00:35:12,833 --> 00:35:14,833
He must have been there days.
590
00:35:14,833 --> 00:35:17,153
Because I didn't go back in there
till...
591
00:35:19,913 --> 00:35:22,192
Wednesday, I think it was.
592
00:35:22,193 --> 00:35:24,273
Yeah.
593
00:35:24,273 --> 00:35:26,273
Three days later.
594
00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:29,713
Nikki said that it was Tony
and Liam.
595
00:35:31,833 --> 00:35:34,272
And how she couldn't stop them.
596
00:35:34,273 --> 00:35:36,272
It were Nikki's idea to burn him.
597
00:35:36,273 --> 00:35:38,352
I went with them.
598
00:35:38,353 --> 00:35:41,712
Because I were frightened
of what would happen if I didn't.
599
00:35:41,713 --> 00:35:45,633
If I hadn't have gone,
Anthony would have got nasty.
600
00:35:45,633 --> 00:35:48,793
He never used to be like that
before he met Liam.
601
00:35:50,113 --> 00:35:55,513
Anyway, Tony said we were all in it
together by that time.
602
00:35:56,553 --> 00:35:58,633
Whether we liked it or not.
603
00:35:58,633 --> 00:36:00,953
Nikki said we were in it together
by then.
604
00:36:02,353 --> 00:36:04,352
Whether we liked it or not.
605
00:36:04,353 --> 00:36:06,432
So...
606
00:36:06,433 --> 00:36:08,993
Can we move on to the murder
of Keith Fleming?
607
00:36:08,993 --> 00:36:12,193
Is there anything that
you can tell me about that?
608
00:36:13,113 --> 00:36:15,113
It were Nadia.
609
00:36:17,353 --> 00:36:19,673
Trying to get inside
Nikki's knickers.
610
00:36:21,113 --> 00:36:23,113
She said...
611
00:36:24,833 --> 00:36:26,833
'Do you want to do another?'
612
00:36:28,753 --> 00:36:30,993
'Do you want me
to get you another one?'
613
00:36:33,193 --> 00:36:35,192
Aren't they all lovely?
614
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,032
Nadia thinks her and Nikki
are Thelma and Louise.
615
00:36:38,033 --> 00:36:41,192
Nikki thinks her and Stainfield
are Bonnie and Clyde.
616
00:36:41,193 --> 00:36:44,552
And Stainfield thinks him and Liam
are Brokeback Mountain.
617
00:36:44,553 --> 00:36:47,352
Who's the closest to telling
the truth? Anybody?
618
00:36:47,353 --> 00:36:49,992
I keep thinking Nadia
because she's so thick.
619
00:36:49,993 --> 00:36:53,112
The more Nadia says, the more
it's riddled with holes.
620
00:36:53,113 --> 00:36:55,192
Of course it is.
621
00:36:55,193 --> 00:36:58,392
Are they all psychopaths?
In my expert medical opinion?
622
00:36:58,393 --> 00:37:00,472
Not Nadia. She's too thick.
623
00:37:00,473 --> 00:37:03,352
Stainfield is. He's a wanker anyway.
624
00:37:03,353 --> 00:37:05,352
In my expert medical opinion.
625
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:10,632
He said to me, 'Can you call me Tony?
Only my mother calls me Anthony.
626
00:37:10,633 --> 00:37:14,192
And that's when I've done something
wrong and I'm in trouble.'
627
00:37:14,193 --> 00:37:16,192
Does he think this isn't trouble?!
628
00:37:16,193 --> 00:37:18,272
I feel a bit sorry for Nadia.
629
00:37:18,273 --> 00:37:20,272
If she hadn't met that lot...
630
00:37:20,273 --> 00:37:22,312
I don't think she's actually evil.
631
00:37:22,313 --> 00:37:24,352
Shall we agree to differ?
632
00:37:24,353 --> 00:37:30,472
I think she did what she did
because in their sad, tiny,
nasty little world,
633
00:37:30,473 --> 00:37:35,833
Stainfield and Madden are the
closest thing that her and Aaron
have ever had to a proper family.
634
00:37:35,833 --> 00:37:37,833
See you upstairs, ladies.
635
00:37:41,353 --> 00:37:45,113
Why don't you want Andy to know
about you and Ade?
636
00:37:49,993 --> 00:37:51,992
Um...
637
00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:54,552
I've been seeing him again.
638
00:37:54,553 --> 00:37:57,112
Andy. Well...
639
00:37:57,113 --> 00:37:59,193
Not seeing him.
640
00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:01,713
You know that night
when you and Jill were...
641
00:38:03,473 --> 00:38:06,032
It was the day that Nick Savage
got arrested.
642
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:08,112
And I was waiting here for you.
643
00:38:08,113 --> 00:38:10,112
Yeah.
644
00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:13,272
Um... We had a bit of a snog.
645
00:38:13,273 --> 00:38:16,192
And we've kept on having
a bit of a snog.
646
00:38:16,193 --> 00:38:20,352
And I don't want Andy
to think that I've split up
with Ade because of him.
647
00:38:20,353 --> 00:38:23,953
Because I haven't. But Andy won't
see it that way, believe you me.
648
00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:27,993
He'll want to move in.
Or he'll want me and the girls
to move in with him.
649
00:38:29,553 --> 00:38:31,593
It's just not what I want.
650
00:38:41,757 --> 00:38:47,756
Right. We have now got CCTV of Nikki
buying bleach from the local shop.
651
00:38:47,757 --> 00:38:51,516
We've got the receipt, we've got
the shopkeeper identifying her.
652
00:38:51,517 --> 00:38:56,756
It struck him as odd because
she's normally only ever in there
buying caviar and Champagne.
653
00:38:56,757 --> 00:39:02,276
Syndicate Three have got CCTV of
three people chasing Aaron Hicks
minutes before he was murdered.
654
00:39:02,277 --> 00:39:04,996
And they've recovered
clothing from the house
655
00:39:04,997 --> 00:39:08,916
that identifies two of the people on
the CCTV as Stainfield and Madden.
656
00:39:08,917 --> 00:39:11,756
The other, presumably, is Liam.
To be confirmed.
657
00:39:11,757 --> 00:39:13,796
So that's it.
658
00:39:13,797 --> 00:39:18,356
I'm seeking authority to charge
Nadia, Stainfield, Nikki Madden
and Liam Welsh
659
00:39:18,357 --> 00:39:21,316
with the murders of Darren Rigby
and Keith Fleming.
660
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:25,797
And Stainfield, Madden and Welsh
with the murder of Aaron Hicks.
661
00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,797
Yes, very good.
662
00:39:29,677 --> 00:39:32,316
I want to see their faces
when you charge them.
663
00:39:32,317 --> 00:39:33,357
Why?
664
00:39:33,357 --> 00:39:35,797
I'm seeing Keith Fleming's widow
in half an hour.
665
00:39:35,798 --> 00:39:39,317
I know what the third question
will be. 'Did they show
any remorse?'
666
00:39:39,317 --> 00:39:41,797
I want to be able to give her
a proper answer.
667
00:39:50,077 --> 00:39:52,116
Who's she?
Shut up.
668
00:39:52,117 --> 00:39:56,076
Anthony John Stainfield,
you are charged with the offences
shown below.
669
00:39:56,077 --> 00:39:57,916
You do not have to say anything.
670
00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:02,357
But it may harm your defence if you
do not mention now something which
you may later rely on in court.
671
00:40:02,357 --> 00:40:04,877
Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
672
00:40:06,197 --> 00:40:09,556
You are charged that between Friday
the 9th of December 2011
673
00:40:09,557 --> 00:40:11,676
and Friday the 23rd of December 2011,
674
00:40:11,677 --> 00:40:14,716
you did murder Darren Rigby,
contrary to common law.
675
00:40:14,717 --> 00:40:18,556
You are also charged that between
Saturday the 18th of February 2012
676
00:40:18,557 --> 00:40:20,796
and Saturday the 25th of February
2012,
677
00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:25,836
you did murder Keith Howard Fleming,
contrary to common law.
678
00:40:25,837 --> 00:40:27,876
You are also charged with rape.
679
00:40:27,877 --> 00:40:30,796
In that between Saturday
the 18th of February 2012
680
00:40:30,797 --> 00:40:33,036
and Saturday the 25th of February
2012,
681
00:40:33,037 --> 00:40:38,996
you had sexual intercourse per anum
with Keith Howard Fleming
without his consent.
682
00:40:38,997 --> 00:40:42,756
Contrary to section one
of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
683
00:40:42,757 --> 00:40:47,236
And section 142 of the Criminal
Justice And Public Order Act 1994.
684
00:40:47,237 --> 00:40:49,476
You've heard
what the officer's said.
685
00:40:49,477 --> 00:40:51,517
Is there anything you'd like to say?
686
00:40:51,517 --> 00:40:53,517
Sign there.
687
00:41:00,997 --> 00:41:02,997
Can you bring me Nikki Madden?
688
00:41:05,197 --> 00:41:07,197
What's the first two questions?
689
00:41:08,437 --> 00:41:10,476
Did he suffer?
690
00:41:10,477 --> 00:41:12,516
And why. Why him?
691
00:41:12,517 --> 00:41:14,557
And just why.
692
00:41:14,557 --> 00:41:18,357
I'll see if I can talk to her about
that complaint against you as well.
693
00:41:27,317 --> 00:41:30,836
Before I take you down to the
custody desk to charge you, Nadia,
694
00:41:30,837 --> 00:41:32,877
there's something I need to ask.
695
00:41:32,877 --> 00:41:37,077
Is there someone that you'd like us
to contact to arrange
Aaron's funeral?
696
00:41:38,077 --> 00:41:40,116
There is no-one.
697
00:41:40,117 --> 00:41:42,157
What will happen?
698
00:41:42,157 --> 00:41:44,157
Social Services will deal with it.
699
00:41:46,077 --> 00:41:49,156
Who will be there?
They'll let me go, won't they?
700
00:41:49,157 --> 00:41:52,996
It's down to the prison.
Whichever prison you get sent to.
701
00:41:52,997 --> 00:41:55,557
But often, no.
702
00:41:55,557 --> 00:41:57,557
Then...
703
00:41:58,837 --> 00:42:00,837
Nobody will be there.
704
00:42:03,757 --> 00:42:05,757
I'll go.
705
00:42:07,517 --> 00:42:09,517
Will you?
Yeah.
706
00:42:10,797 --> 00:42:12,836
Really?
707
00:42:12,837 --> 00:42:14,876
Promise me.
708
00:42:14,877 --> 00:42:16,916
I promise.
709
00:42:16,917 --> 00:42:18,957
Right.
710
00:42:18,957 --> 00:42:20,957
Come on.
711
00:42:32,197 --> 00:42:34,197
Oh, shit.
712
00:42:46,557 --> 00:42:48,597
Oh, great. Nice one.
713
00:42:51,837 --> 00:42:53,837
Hello, hello, hello.
714
00:42:55,437 --> 00:43:00,557
So... What are we doing
for your birthday, then, madam?
715
00:43:02,477 --> 00:43:05,596
I thought we were just going round
your friend's house.
716
00:43:05,597 --> 00:43:07,636
Yeah, well, we were.
717
00:43:07,637 --> 00:43:09,677
But it's changed.
718
00:43:09,677 --> 00:43:15,317
Into less about my birthday
and more about nailing these four
mad bastards.
719
00:43:16,357 --> 00:43:18,396
I'll stay here.
No, come on.
720
00:43:18,397 --> 00:43:20,436
It will do you good to get out.
721
00:43:20,437 --> 00:43:24,597
Just don't tell them that you did
four years for armed robbery.
722
00:43:24,597 --> 00:43:26,597
All right?
723
00:43:29,477 --> 00:43:32,396
You sit behind desks all day.
I do real police work.
724
00:43:32,397 --> 00:43:35,037
Are you sure?
How do you confuse a traffic cop?
725
00:43:35,037 --> 00:43:39,117
Give them a piece of paper with
'please turn over'
written on both sides!
726
00:43:40,077 --> 00:43:41,716
Very funny.
727
00:43:41,717 --> 00:43:43,956
How do you put a twinkle
in a traffic cop's eye?
728
00:43:43,957 --> 00:43:46,396
Shine a torch through his ears!
Comedians.
729
00:43:46,397 --> 00:43:48,956
Is Jill coming?
I hope so.
730
00:43:48,957 --> 00:43:50,196
That's good.
731
00:43:50,197 --> 00:43:52,356
She went to see Keith Fleming's
widow.
732
00:43:52,357 --> 00:43:54,397
I'm going to the toilet.
733
00:43:54,397 --> 00:43:56,397
OK.
Is she all right?
734
00:43:57,317 --> 00:43:59,876
Did you work out
who those flowers were from?
735
00:43:59,877 --> 00:44:01,916
Yeah.
736
00:44:01,917 --> 00:44:03,956
Sean, thanks for the flowers.
737
00:44:03,957 --> 00:44:06,276
What? What flowers?
738
00:44:06,277 --> 00:44:09,316
Yesterday.
I didn't send you any flowers.
739
00:44:09,317 --> 00:44:11,356
Yes, you did.
740
00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:13,396
No, I didn't.
741
00:44:13,397 --> 00:44:15,716
Well, who sent them, then?
I don't know.
742
00:44:15,717 --> 00:44:19,596
You lot are the detectives.
I'm just simple-minded uniform.
743
00:44:19,597 --> 00:44:21,637
You said it, sweetheart!
744
00:44:21,637 --> 00:44:23,637
And what do you do, Dom?
745
00:44:25,077 --> 00:44:27,116
I'm between jobs just at the moment.
746
00:44:27,117 --> 00:44:29,156
The boss is here.
747
00:44:29,157 --> 00:44:31,676
Wasn't she dignified
on the news last week.
748
00:44:31,677 --> 00:44:34,236
Did you see her?
What, Godzilla?
749
00:44:34,237 --> 00:44:35,676
I said to Janet...
750
00:44:35,677 --> 00:44:38,796
I could be where Jill is now
if only I was so marvellous.
751
00:44:38,797 --> 00:44:40,836
Evening all! Happy birthday, kid!
752
00:44:40,837 --> 00:44:43,556
Ian Fielding, head of MIT,
rings me up just now.
753
00:44:43,557 --> 00:44:47,116
I'm thinking he's going to go,
'Job well done, Jill.' All this.
754
00:44:47,117 --> 00:44:50,236
He goes, 'I've just seen your
overtime bill on this job.
755
00:44:50,237 --> 00:44:54,556
I've seen all these overtime slips
you've been signing.
It's a bit over the top, isn't it?'
756
00:44:54,557 --> 00:44:56,836
I thought, 'Fuck you, buster!'
Ahem.
757
00:44:56,837 --> 00:44:59,996
Sorry. Right, who's buying?
I am going to get hammered.
758
00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:02,036
Oh, hello, Dorothy. How are you?
759
00:45:02,037 --> 00:45:04,077
Pete!
760
00:45:04,077 --> 00:45:06,077
Get a bottle!
761
00:45:15,357 --> 00:45:17,396
Taisie! Are you all right, love?
762
00:45:17,397 --> 00:45:20,436
Just ringing my dad
but he's not answering his phone.
763
00:45:20,437 --> 00:45:23,556
He'll ring you back if you left a
message. Is he not coming tonight?
764
00:45:23,557 --> 00:45:25,597
No.
765
00:45:25,597 --> 00:45:27,597
They've split up.
766
00:45:33,717 --> 00:45:37,316
Jeremy Leach. He raped and strangled
three women in the West Country.
767
00:45:37,317 --> 00:45:39,757
Rachel, are you serious?
You'd let that man out?
768
00:45:39,757 --> 00:45:41,257
Manchester.
769
00:45:41,304 --> 00:45:42,844
Too good-looking to be a killer?
770
00:45:42,915 --> 00:45:45,635
Dark brown hair, five foot eight.
I fit the victim profile.
771
00:45:47,021 --> 00:45:49,501
I know every single thing there is
to know about you.
772
00:45:49,526 --> 00:46:19,669
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