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No injuries on the skull?
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And we have nothing else.
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This is quite absurd.
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Why the hell did he make up
a story about head injury?
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He must have been convinced
that we wouldn't find the body.
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When he learns that we are
recovering the submarine he
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invents a story to explain
why we will find blood in it.
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From my side the problem
is to make a proper case.
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We still have no
clear cut evidence.
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But as there are no injuries on her
head, then his story is clearly a lie!
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Yes.
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Yes, it is.
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But only until he comes up
with a new explanation.
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And legally he can do that.
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First he claims he put her
back on dry land. Then he
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buried her at sea after she
suffered a head injury.
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Now suddenly she didn't
have a head injury.
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And instead was chopped up
before thrown into the sea.
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Can he make a new story every
time we find something?
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According to the law, yes.
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As accused, he can change his
story as often as he likes.
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So, the question is....
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...can we disprove that
it was an accident?
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Can we disprove suicide?
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And can we prove it was murder?
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What happened?
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What is the cause of death?
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What was his motive?
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No, we don't know.
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Exactly.
We don't know.
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And we have the burden of proof.
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The Investigation
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Day 58
7ᵗʰ October 2017
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It is blowing gale out there.
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There is a northerly current
of 1½ Knots. The sea
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temperature is 7 degrees, but
at least visibility is good.
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I want a minimum of two
men in each stage.
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Stay close to each other.
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It is cold and we
are all exhausted.
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Look out for each other.
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Any questions?
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Let's start all over.
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What do we know?
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We know she was killed
or died accidentally.
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What about suicide?
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Is that totally impossible?
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This is like a jigsaw where
half of the pieces are missing.
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Okay.
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Let's at least look at
the pieces we have.
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We have a torso, legs and a
head that has no injuries.
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We have iron bars used to weigh
down the body parts and same
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has been found in the accused
workshop, indicating premeditation.
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We have panties and tights.
We have a knife and some
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clothes. We have books
that indicate the accused
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was fascinated by crimes
and criminals and we have
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witnesses describing him
being sexually kinky.
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We know he invited 3 or 4 other women
onto his submarine, and all rejected.
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And we know that the
journalist instigated the
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interview and sailed with
him and then disappeared.
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But what does it tell us?
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That he killed her...
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... butchered her...
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...and threw her into the sea.
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No. It tells us that she
was butchered and thrown
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into the sea, but not
that she was killed.
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We have found her head.
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There are no injuries on it.
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And he keeps changing his story.
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That's not enough pieces?
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No.
Not necessarily.
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No!
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Musa and I have a meeting with the
IT forensic guys tomorrow morning.
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They are going through
his computer and hard
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drives. Maybe they will
find something useful.
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Does he know we have found
the head and the legs?
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Yes.
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And he hasn't come up
with a new explanation?
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No.
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What about his friends?
Any new ones come forward?
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No.
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One of them must know something.
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Hello. This is Jens.
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I would like to hold
a press conference.
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Yes, I would like to share
the latest discoveries.
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Can you arrange it?
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Great
Thank you.
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If we tell the press that there are
no injuries on the head, so he has
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been lying to us, then maybe some
of his old friends will come forward.
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And then maybe he will come
up with something new.
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Good Morning.
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We would like to give an update in the case
the press has dubbed the 'submarine case'.
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Yesterday with assistance of
the Navy's diving team, we have
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found a bag in the morning, which we
believe contains Kim Wall's clothes.
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A sweater, skirt, shoes and socks.
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In the bag we also found a knife.
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And some lead sinkers to
keep the bag from floating.
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Around midday we found a leg
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followed by another leg
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and shortly after
we found a head.
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And the interesting fact is that there
are no injuries at all on the skull.
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and in fact no injuries
at all on the head.
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Hi, this is Cecilie's phone.
Anders speaking.
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Hi Anders. It's Jens,
Cecilie's dad.
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Hello.
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umm... Cecilie is a
bit busy right now.
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She can't?
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I've tried to call all morning.
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Oh really?
I didn't know that.
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Can you ask her to call me?
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Yes, of course I will.
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Bye.
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We are trying to put pressure on him
to come up with a new explanation.
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That hopefully is
closer to the truth.
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Or to get those in
his circle that have
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believed in his innocence to
come forward and speak to us.
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It's already two months.
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We are of course glad
that you have...
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Well.. that you have found....
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But I don't understand
how little we know.
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Every time you find something
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he just comes with a new explanation.
And now it is proven that he's lied.
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But without any
consequences for him.
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How will we ever
know what happened?
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I wish I could tell you.
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But you are still searching?
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Yes.
Of course.
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The divers are working whenever
the weather allows us.
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Are they also searching
for the phones?
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That... that is not
our first priority.
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Why is that?
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The phones may reveal
what happened.
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I understand.
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Question is, if it is at
all possible to find them?
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Or if they have been covered
in the sand on the seabed.
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I'm ready to go down.
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Yellow buoy up!
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Well?
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We found something.
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I understand you found the saw?
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What's wrong?
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There is something
wrong with the map.
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What do you mean?
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We found the saw down here.
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But that doesn't match.
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Based on the course, the
submarine was never there.
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How far is there between?
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More than 200 meters.
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How much does it weigh?
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Can't it have drifted 200 meters?
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My question exactly.
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We bought an identical saw and sailed
out a bit and threw it into the sea.
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And?
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It hasn't drifted with the current.
It fell straight down to the bottom.
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If we are to find the arms, then we need
to review the course of the submarine.
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We don't have any more info.
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Well, we need to find it.
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I called VTS in Malmö and told
them we come over tomorrow.
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I discovered that I
know someone there.
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We need to look at the radar
tracks, second by second,
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minute by minute, hour by hour
until we have every detail.
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How long will that take?
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I don't know.
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It has to be done.
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We need to find everything.
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We start by selecting buzzwords,
like 'Murder', 'Submarine', 'Sex'
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and similar and search for them
in his files and search history
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and if we find a match
we see where it takes us.
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This way we slowly but surely dig
deeper and deeper into his data.
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Then maybe you can classify
the searches by motive?
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Yes, we have already
started that.
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I can send the list to you
as soon as we are done.
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So you can add to it if
we have missed any.
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Great!
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What if he has
deleted some files?
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We should still find
some traces of them.
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How so?
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Once something has been saved, it is
pretty impossible to delete completely.
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There are inevitably some traces.
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So what do you do if you really
want to delete something?
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Put in in the bath or
smash it with a hammer.
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How long will this take?
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If we find matches
and we start to
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dig deep, then it can
take quite some time.
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How long exactly?
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Weeks.
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Or months.
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They search for relevant key words,
'Sex', 'Submarine', 'Murder'.
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And how far have they got?
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Not very far.
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It's apparently cumbersome
and methodical.
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Okay.
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It looks as if your plan is working.
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I've just had the defender
of the accused on the line.
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She said that her client
has decided to come
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clean and tell the truth
about what happened.
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He wants to be
re-interviewed tomorrow.
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Day 65
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What did he say?
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He said that after careful
consideration he had decided
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to tell the truth about
what happened that night.
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And he explained that
she did not die from
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being hit on the head by
the hatch and that he
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had butchered the corpse
because it was too heavy
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to get up through the
tower of the submarine.
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So he admits to have
butchered the corpse?
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How did she die?
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Well, he thinks it was lack of
oxygen or carbon monoxide poisoning.
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There was some issue with the
engine and defective exhausts.
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But... it was a long
technical explanation.
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In any case the hatch had
got stuck when he was
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up and outside while she
was down in the boat.
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And there was some kind of
vacuum that prevented him to
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open the hatch and when he
finally did, he found her dead.
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- And then he butchered her?
- Yes.
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Or no. He had first tried to
carry her up but not succeeded.
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And later that night he had decided to
cut the corpse into smaller pieces.
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And thereafter he had decided to kill himself
which he then delayed or reconsidered.
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And what about the
tights and the panties?
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He thinks it was during his struggle to
get her out that her clothes came off.
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But he hadn't really noticed it.
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Every time you find something,
he changes his explanation.
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We need to find the arms.
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If we don't see her wrists
then his next story will be that
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she committed suicide and he
promised not to tell her parents.
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We must be able to counter all
explanations except murder.
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You are still here?
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Yes, I have nothing else to do.
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I got hold of this submarine
expert, Dytte Dyreborg.
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Yes?
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I will meet her tomorrow and take
her through his latest explanation.
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To verify if it is really possible
the hatch got stuck like this.
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Excellent.
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It would be good
to disprove that.
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- I see you tomorrow.
- Yes.
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Hi, you have called Cecilie. I can't take
your call, so please leave a message. Bye.
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Hi Cecilie.
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It's Dad.
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Can you please call me back.
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Look forward to hear from you.
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We spent a whole day with transparent
paper taped to the radar screen.
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And drew dots.
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Every time the radar
picked up the submarine.
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From 19.30 when they left and until
10.22 when the submarine sank.
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Minute by minute by minute by minute.
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There are more than 600 dots.
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Has it changed our understanding
of the course he took?
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Yes.
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Especially down here,
in the southern part.
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Look at this.
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There is a large outward deviation
that we didn't know about.
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On the other hand it matches
with us finding the saw here.
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And it is down here you
consider to search again?
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00:20:06,430 --> 00:20:09,900
Consider?
We are just about ready to go.
254
00:20:26,490 --> 00:20:28,990
I had an interesting
discussion with the submarine
255
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expert about the accused
latest explanation.
256
00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:33,030
What did she say?
257
00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:36,760
She said that it is quite
possible that there could be high
258
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pressure leading to the creation
of vacuum that would make it
259
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,440
impossible to open the hatch. But
how he then still managed to
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open it she doesn't understand.
For her that would be impossible.
261
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:49,840
Okay.
262
00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:53,150
So if this accident really
happened then the hatch would
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be so stuck that there
would be no way to open it?
264
00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:56,780
Yes, correct.
265
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,460
It would take a long
time to balance the
266
00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:02,520
pressure again to enable
opening of the hatch again.
267
00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:03,730
How long?
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- At least one hour.
- What's her conclusion?
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We are missing some drawings
of the submarine and
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it's state after sinking
makes it extra hard.
271
00:21:15,550 --> 00:21:17,450
So what conclusions
could she make?
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00:21:19,710 --> 00:21:22,400
She thinks his story
is total fiction.
273
00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:29,300
If it had happened, then there would
have been huge heat blast that would have
274
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,450
caused the vacuum but also would have
left significant marks on the body.
275
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I've asked the Technical
Institute to investigate
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and eventually confirm in
their official report.
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But does she concur with Lars Møller
that the submarine was sunk on purpose?
278
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Yes, she has no
doubts about that.
279
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,750
That should cheer up Jakob a bit.
280
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- It's Jens.
- LM here.
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00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:03,360
Really?
282
00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:21,060
Hi Jakob. It's Jens.
283
00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:27,280
Just wanted to let you know that
we have found one of her arms.
284
00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:33,110
No, just one for now.
285
00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:58,260
Now, we bloody well go
and find the other one.
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Day 111
29ᵗʰ November 2017
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We have a marking buoy!
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00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:57,500
Let's go.
289
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Divers coming up to the surface.
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00:24:44,010 --> 00:24:44,870
YEEESSSS!!!!
291
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YEEESSSS!!!!
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00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440
I've just spoken to the parents.
293
00:25:19,630 --> 00:25:23,340
They asked me to pass on their most
heartfelt gratitude to you and your men.
294
00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:29,530
It means everything for them, now
to be able to bury their daughter.
295
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,250
Normally when we finish
a successful day...
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00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:03,210
...the guys are in high
spirits and happy.
297
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:09,170
And they talk about
what to eat or drink...
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00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:12,710
...what to do when
they get home.
299
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:19,640
But today, after getting back
to shore, then....
300
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:23,840
...nobody said anything.
301
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:29,970
They were all
completely quiet.
302
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:36,520
Incredible work.
303
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,100
We always try our utmost.
304
00:26:47,310 --> 00:26:50,130
And then we hope
it is good enough.
305
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,500
- This is Claus.
- Hi Claus, it's Jens.
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00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,510
Hi Jens.
307
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:19,550
Claus, what do you have?
308
00:27:19,570 --> 00:27:23,980
As expected, the cause of death
is not to be found on the arms.
309
00:27:23,980 --> 00:27:27,800
No signs of suicide.
No restraints marks or anything at all.
310
00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:28,960
Okay.
311
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:31,840
- Yes.
- Yeah.
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00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,140
The question is - how do we
find out what happened?
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00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:41,870
Yes, we need to find out.
314
00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:45,040
So, suicide is off the table?
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00:27:46,820 --> 00:27:47,540
Mmmm.
316
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,010
That only leaves murder, right?
317
00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:54,810
Yes, maybe.
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00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:59,080
Maybe we have enough
to get him on murder.
319
00:27:59,990 --> 00:28:05,260
But then he gets maybe 14 years
and is out after 8 or 10.
320
00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:14,730
To get him put away for life we
need murder plus something more.
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00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:16,640
You know that.
322
00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:18,880
What about rape?
323
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:21,460
Yes.
That would do.
324
00:28:22,750 --> 00:28:26,720
But to get him on rape, then we have
to be able to prove it took place.
325
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,900
And that it happened just before death.
Or it was planned.
326
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:36,820
Because, if it happened spontaneously
after death, then it only counts as...
327
00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:40,900
...a mishandling of a corpse.
328
00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:43,010
And necrophilia.
329
00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:46,180
And that's not enough.
330
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200
We need to understand fully
what happened that night, Jens.
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00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:54,110
And we will.
332
00:28:55,660 --> 00:28:58,100
By finding the motive.
333
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,450
As expected cause of death
is not found on the arms.
334
00:29:06,490 --> 00:29:08,710
So we need to continue
to wait for the cause
335
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:11,200
of death and the final
report from the ME.
336
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Can I borrow 10
minutes of your time?
337
00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:21,970
Yes, of course.
338
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:31,650
So far we have found 7 files
all about piercing of women.
339
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,140
Piercing?
340
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,290
What does it mean?
341
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:38,090
Well, that's a good question.
342
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:44,890
It is sexual text and fantasies about
women being pierced through the skin and
343
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:52,090
flesh with a sharp pointy things - spears,
pencils, knitting needles, needles, knifes etc.
344
00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:58,010
How many wounds were
there on the torso?
345
00:29:58,030 --> 00:29:59,530
There were seventeen.
346
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,370
Do you think there is
more of such things?
347
00:30:04,410 --> 00:30:05,850
Most likely.
348
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,910
We have gone through his internet history.
What websites
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00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:13,570
he has visited and what words
he has searched for...
350
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,120
- Can I?
- Yes, of course.
351
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:26,780
"Beheaded"
352
00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:30,510
"Argony"
353
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:32,850
"Girl"
354
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:36,160
Three words the accused has
searched for many times and latest
355
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:38,650
18 hours before the submarine
sailed for the last time.
356
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,730
Isn't "Agony" spelt without an 'r'?
357
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:43,450
Yes, the spelling mistake
is from the accused.
358
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:47,880
Despite the spelling mistake, the
search gave some interesting results.
359
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,650
Including so called "snuff film"
where a woman is beheaded.
360
00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:00,130
You mean... for real?
361
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,930
We think... that it
looks very real.
362
00:31:10,570 --> 00:31:12,770
Is this something
he has watched?
363
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:14,000
Yes, it is.
364
00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:17,510
Latest, 18 hours before
he sailed with the deceased.
365
00:31:20,110 --> 00:31:23,500
In addition, we have
found 3 short animations
366
00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:26,940
with same theme, downloaded
onto his computer.
367
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,660
Like a cartoon?
368
00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:32,630
Beheading and piercing
depicted in a sexual way.
369
00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:36,750
May we see them?
370
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,420
I would not...
recommend it.
371
00:32:35,890 --> 00:32:38,920
Can I try and get a copy
of the video he watched?
372
00:32:43,660 --> 00:32:45,950
Was this all planned?
373
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120
He took the lead sinks and the saw down
to the sub that same day.
374
00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:59,660
That contradicts his statement of
trying to dispose of the whole body.
375
00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:02,770
If he had no plans to use
the saw, why bring it?
376
00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:07,790
And we know that he tried to
invite at least 3 other women to
377
00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:11,730
come with him onto the sub that
same day but they all rejected.
378
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200
When the first 3 rejected
it seems like he
379
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:18,130
gave up. At least there
are no other messages.
380
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,300
But then suddenly he gets a call
from the Swedish journalist that
381
00:33:22,330 --> 00:33:26,200
previously had tried to set up
an interview, asking again.
382
00:33:26,530 --> 00:33:28,790
And then the plan is back on.
383
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,650
Is it correct, that there
is absolutely nothing
384
00:33:39,670 --> 00:33:42,420
that indicates they
knew each other before.
385
00:33:42,430 --> 00:33:43,300
Yes.
386
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,110
We all agree on that?
387
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:54,850
Then we can remove jealousy...
revenge... and loathing as a motive.
388
00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:57,760
Is there anything
pointing towards money?
389
00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:00,990
No?
390
00:34:03,130 --> 00:34:07,730
Anything pointing towards politics
or religion being motive?
391
00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:12,050
Any political message or terrorism?
392
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:12,980
No.
393
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,520
Lust.
394
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,640
There are semen traces
in his underpants.
395
00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:27,200
He is well known in
Copenhagen's sex clubs.
396
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,470
In the lead up to the killing, he is
watching videos where a woman is beheaded.
397
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,750
All this points to a sexual motive.
398
00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:41,210
Power?
399
00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:46,230
Maybe he wanted to show or
prove his power in some way.
400
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:47,830
Because he feels superior.
401
00:34:47,830 --> 00:34:51,080
He had lot of problems with his
projects, he had canceled his
402
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:54,430
sailing to Bornholm and his company
was on the brink of bankruptcy.
403
00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:56,690
Maybe that was his trigger?
404
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,810
His power and his
control was vanishing.
405
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,940
The panties and tights also fit perfectly
to a part in the Amager Man's book.
406
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,190
He wanted to prove himself
by acting out the video.
407
00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:15,190
He wanted to show that he
could get away with it.
408
00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:17,310
That gave him a rush.
409
00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:21,310
Power!
410
00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:50,760
Jens?
411
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,140
Can I come in?
412
00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:54,510
What's happening?
413
00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:00,950
"Beheaded", "Agony", "Girl"
414
00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:11,930
We have our motive.
415
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:14,140
We have our motive.
416
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:21,580
If the ME concludes that
beheading is the cause
417
00:36:21,610 --> 00:36:24,590
of death then we are
definitely on a winner.
418
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:27,730
And if not?
419
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:33,840
Then we have to back it up with the
evidence we have and the video.
420
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,050
Worst of it all, is how
coincidental it all was.
421
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,370
She tries earlier to
get an interview.
422
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:54,780
It doesn't happen and she forgets all about
it. Then suddenly she remembers again.
423
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,470
Calls again and gets hold of
him and sets up the interview.
424
00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:01,980
Completely unaware.
425
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:07,550
But he knew exactly
what he was doing.
426
00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:09,610
He had prepared it all.
427
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,920
She never stood a chance.
428
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,900
She had done nothing to him.
429
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,940
She was just curious.
430
00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:20,250
Confident, happy and brave.
431
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680
Exactly as our
children should be.
432
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:19,350
Hello.
433
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:22,000
Hi Cecilie, it's dad.
I'd like to speak with you.
434
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,350
- Hello!
- Yes, I'll come down.
435
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:00,170
- Hi, love.
- Hi.
436
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:03,690
I've tried to call many times.
437
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,400
Yes, I know.
438
00:39:05,770 --> 00:39:09,130
- You didn't call back.
- No, it has been busy, so...
439
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,410
I'm sorry about the other evening.
I couldn't get away.
440
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:14,790
That's okay.
441
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:17,020
You know how it is.
442
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:20,130
Yes, I know.
443
00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:25,410
That's maybe also why I
haven't called you back.
444
00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:28,930
What do you mean?
445
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,450
You will apologise and
explain how important the
446
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,940
case is. I will say I understand.
Even if I don't.
447
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:37,870
What would you want me to say?
448
00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:39,560
I do have a job to do.
449
00:39:39,730 --> 00:39:42,810
I don't know what you should
say, but maybe nothing...
450
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:48,550
Maybe how I feel? I'm having my first
child and ask if I'm scared and....
451
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,880
I just don't want to be
disappointed again and again.
452
00:39:59,110 --> 00:40:01,160
Tell me what you expect from me.
453
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,430
Well, I'm your daughter...
454
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,590
I need care and love
and the feeling of...
455
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:13,520
...the feeling of being
important to you.
456
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:16,850
You are important to me.
457
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:24,830
Listen to me, there is a young
woman who has been murdered.
458
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960
And her body thrown into the sea.
459
00:40:29,230 --> 00:40:32,020
What the hell do
you want me to do?
460
00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:37,230
I don't know.
461
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:44,250
But if you don't know yourself,
then please don't call me.
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