All language subtitles for Waking the Dead S03E06 Breaking Glass (2)-eng

Now he's shooting at people.
So I heard.

They'll take him out. They will.
Then he WILL be a victim.
A dead one.

We've got positive ID from CCTV
for Tanner and his companion.

The police know him as Patrick
Rainham, aka Rainman, down-and-out.
Sells himself from time to time.

Grace, we need to put Hugh Cullen
in protective custody.

Tanner is around 30, armed and
dangerous. He has been receiving
psychological counselling.

Can you ask him to ring me
on my mobile when he gets
off of his round? Thank you.

He could've been a victim of abuse
while he was a teenager in care.

Last night a security guard was shot
in the shoulder by two intruders -
Tanner and Patrick Rainham.

PHONE RINGS
Laurie Poole.

I'll take it in my office.

You should have taken me seriously.
Instead of what? Denying
the validity of recovered memory.

I'm only interested in crimes.
How many people had keys?
They broke a window!

Who paid Tanner's accounts here?

He did. How? He paid cash.
..Anything?

Lots of broken glass.
Well, there would be. Yeah, and...?

How many people did you say
had keys? Four of us. DS Jordan
will speak to them one at a time.

They've disconnected
the hard drive. Are the hard drives
missing? Yeah, three of them.

I think you withheld information
about what Tanner threatened to do
to Papa Doc. Is that true?

He had feelings towards revenge.
We were working through that.

I think he got fed up
working through it.

You said that in the morning
you'd remember. Comes here.

How many times have you seen him?
13 times.

April 12th, June 20th,
September 25th, September 30th,
December 3rd...3rd...

So he picks up rough boys
all the time? Yes.

Has he picked you up? June 20th.

Where did he take you?

Dark.

What is it?
Oh, just looking for someone.

Help yourself! Do you want
to get in touch with someone?

I do, yeah. Who is it? Papa Doc.

Sorry, can't help. Have a tea.

Hi. Detective Superintendent Boyd.

Oliver Gill. Head of
local authority social services.
Retired head.

You want to talk to me. Yes, I do.
Thanks very much for coming in.

Some years ago, a man in your
department committed suicide.
Peter Murdoch. How can one forget?

He made a confession. Abusing boys.
Quite dreadful. Was there
any evidence he abused boys?

Did any boys say they'd been abused?

I initiated an inquiry.
We never got any firm evidence.

So as far as you're concerned, this
Papa Doc might never have existed.

I'll be frank.
There WERE rumours about Papa Doc,

but what do you do?
Wait a minute - rumours before
Peter Murdoch committed suicide?

Indeed. Some boys had absconded
from care. The Arjana Centre?
Professor Cullen's establishment?

Yes. Peter Murdoch had access
to the Arjana Centre, didn't he?

Oh, yes. Yes, of course.
Cullen ran an open-door policy.
Did you visit the Arjana Centre?

Yes, several times.
What did you see? Mayhem.
Did you see any criminal activity?

All sorts of things.
Did you actually see...?

Did I see Peter Murdoch having sex
with boys? No, I didn't.

But there was his suicide
and the letter he wrote.

Has something happened to reopen
all this?

We're looking into the possibility
that Papa Doc is still alive.

What, you mean...? That it wasn't
Peter Murdoch. Yes.

You're going to have to ask him. I
know what you want to ask me about.

Hugh Cullen? Hugh Cullen, yeah.

Well, Cullen ran a free-for-all.

There were no barriers,
no formality. There was
no authority, it was just anarchy.

And you didn't like that,
so you'd challenge him?

All the time. He would get abusive.

Course, you know what his line was?
No.

It was society that was mad.

Kevin Pearce. Kevin Pearce.

Do you remember him? I remember him
because he complained about Cullen.

About what in particular? He said
he felt menaced. Nothing more?

Nothing specific. But I took note.

Your report doesn't refer
to anything of a criminal nature.

In those days...
What, you just didn't believe...?

This sexual abuse business.
We weren't alerted to it.
Even now it's hard to imagine.

Another of Cullen's boys? There
were two of them. Identical twins.

I remember something about twins.

Twins always throw up fascinating
questions. Nature? Nurture?

So one of them absconded.

Is this the one that absconded?
How can you tell from a photo
which one absconded?

Peter would have known.

He visited all the care homes.

Poor Peter. What a terrible waste.

Why has it all opened up again,
may I ask?

We've received...
certain information.

Interview ended at 10.45.

Can I speak
to Professor Macintosh?
..Yes, it is Grace Foley again.

Tell DC Silver where we can get hold
of you and then she'll show you out.
My card. Thank you.

There goes Oliver Gill CBE.

Does CBE mean we believe his
insinuations about Hugh Cullen?

We believe everyone's insinuations
against everybody until we have
something more substantial to go on.

Grace...
none of them are my insinuations.

I know.
PHONE RINGS
That'll be Alan.

When did you last see him?
I've never seen him here.

He doesn't encourage visitors.
In fact, I haven't seen him
face to face for seven years.

How did he seem when you talked to
him on the phone? I thought he was
in trouble. And this won't help.

Don't tell him where I'm from.

You think he can't tell
where people are from?

DOORBELL RINGS

(See who it is.)

Is Professor Cullen in?
(Who is it?)

Alan Macintosh. Just tell him Alan.
(Tell him to piss off.)
Hugh, it's Alan.

Hugh?

I need to talk to you.

Who's she?

Her name's Grace.
May we come in for a minute?

Come in for a week
if that's your mad desire.

Nothing to do with you!
You nosy git! Piss off.

Thank you.

Who's she and where's she from?
She can speak for herself.

Then she should.
I'm a psychologist. Oh, really(?)

Couldn't quite commit yourself, eh?

That's an old argument. There's
no such thing as psychology. Like
there's no such thing as society?

That's a good one, that is.
You came a long way for that.

Now, listen, Mrs Psychologist,
whatever, let's not quibble.

I work for the Home Office. Talking
of dark, conspiratorial places...

Hugh, perhaps we can sit down?
Yeah, perhaps you can.

How have you been keeping?
What did you tell her about me?
He didn't need to tell me anything.

I've read everything you've
ever written. No, you haven't.

You've read everything
I've ever published. Indeed.

Yeah...
So what did you come here for, eh?

What does the Home Office
want with Hugh Cullen?
God knows they never did before.

I'd like to talk to you
about twins. What about? You wrote
this paper, Monozygotic Twins,

stating if you could make a sample
base of identical twins with
different mental health patterns...

We could stuff the dreary gene
police right back in their holes.

And if these identical twins
didn't develop identical
psychoses... Stuff 'em back.

A fair number of twins in care
were put out for adoption.

Hugh...

Hugh, you've so many friends,
still, and admirers.
Really(? ) Well...

tickets for me funeral
will be in short supply.

I'd like to show you a photograph.

People often want to show
photographs. I generally resist it.

Please.

Jonathan.

His name's Jonathan?

Or Terry.

Jonathan and Terry were twins?

What...?

Jonathan and Terry were twins.
Jonathan and Terry were twins...

What was their surname?
We weren't interested in surnames.

Because it was part
of their false selves?

If you were put up for adoption,
what would you think?

You knew their real names, though,
because you wrote about them
in this paper.

"Twin boys who lived
in a world that was their refuge
and their own unique construction."

Adams. What? Their name was Adams?

Christ, is that what you came here
for? What happened to them?

Ran away. What, both of them?

Jonno. There was a crisis.

It was to do with relationships.

In what way? Hugh...

the police want to know.

I work for the Metropolitan Police.

I told her -
she's living out a false self.

I help them resolve issues
with a psychological dimension.

Look, the body of one
of the twins has been discovered.

Hugh...
nobody's suggesting anything.

Where?

Where did they find him?

Grace? In the cellars
of the old Arjana Centre.

Hugh, we're just here,
informally...

for help.

Hugh? Oh...

I don't like leaving him like this.
He could go on a bender for days.
We won't be leaving him like this.

We have to take him in. We have
to talk to him. Arrest him?

Did you see his mental state? Alan,
the man is in danger! We found the
body of a boy who was in his care.

I know... Another ex-patient is
running around with a gun, looking
for a man he believes abused him.

Ah.

Come on.

I WILL make sure this is handled
with the greatest possible care.

Look, why don't you stay here?
Explain to him as much
as you think he can take on board.

Hugh Cullen is not an abuser!

This former patient has been seeing
a therapist who specialises
in recovered memory.

Christ.

Oh, no.

You can set it up in the squad room.
Is this the one? Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah, OK.
OK, I'll come straight over. Bye.

Paul Blackstone, the archaeologist,
thinks he may have found something.
Tell Boyd I'm going over there.

Yeah. Call me if there's anything.

ã3... ã2.20... Add 40...
I just want you to listen to me.

One of everything on the menu
adds up to ã65.45!

We don't want one of everything on
the menu. Remember what we want?

We want to find Papa Doc.

And he's out there.

I found this chat room.

Survivors Support Group.

I went online looking for anyone
who remembered Arjana.

Anyway, this bloke comes on,
he remembers...
and he won't give his name.

Straightaway, I'm thinking,
"It could be him."

Papa Doc. Yeah.

He says I need counselling and,er...
names this place I should go to.

So I thought, "Yeah, all right,
try and gain his confidence,
before I arrange a meet."

So anyway I goes along
to this place and, er...

You remember shrinks?

I told her.

You told her what he did? Yeah. He
always said what he'd do to you if
you told. That's when we were kids.

So why did you tell her? Why?

I thought it might look good in my
defence. Defence? When we find him.

Frankie says Dr Blackstone
may have found Kevin Pearce.

The skeleton was identified
in the archive of the
London Archaeological Service.

Well? Cullen's running a
boarding house in Lambeth. Pretty
downmarket, mainly young men.

He seems to like being surrounded by
young men. It crossed my mind. And?

And I don't know, Boyd.
I wish I did.

We'll bring him in when we're ready.

What's going on?
We think we've got Kevin Pearce.

Doctor Wharton has drawn my
attention to a hairline fracture
in the occipital area. ..Frankie?

I've taken the liberty
of making up some slides already.

There's no microscopic evidence
of healing, so I think
the injury's post mortem.

I think the body's been dragged on
hard ground by its feet. Possibly.

So you don't have a cause of death?
No, it's pretty difficult.

How did he end up being excavated
by archaeologists? It's a long
story. A very long story. ..What?

I hadn't finished.
Tanner's real name is Adams.
Did Cullen tell you that? Yes.

Have you found any of the Arjana's
records? Mel's doing it. Did you
mention Kevin Pearce to Cullen? No.

He's clearly depressive,
talks when he feels like it. Well,
he's got a lot of talking to do yet.

We've got the files on the Arjana
Centre. Kevin Pearce went missing
the same day as... Jonathan Adams.

How did you know that? Adams is
the real name of the Tanner twins.

They died on the same day. We're
ready for Cullen. I want Macintosh
there when you interview him. Why?

Because of his condition. I want
to interview Cullen under caution.

He's fragile! And there's
no evidence that he's Papa Doc...
Just call! Do it your way!

Hi. Thanks, Mel. Sit down.

I know it.
Hugh Cullen is not an abuser. Let's
hope that that's what we conclude.

You know, I don't know how...
our relationship...

Friendship. Our friendship, yes.

I don't see how our friendship
can survive this. You're accusing
Hugh Cullen. Nobody's accusing him.

I wish you could understand or
respect the reasons I do this work,

otherwise I can't
see any future for our friendship.
Hugh was a hero to me.

I know.
It's hard to see in him now, but...

30 years ago,
he stood up against the system.

Maybe he wasn't the right person to
run a therapeutic community, but he
showed us a new way to see things.

His fall was very hard to watch.
He's still very important to me.

Well, let's hope
he can remain important to you.

OK, let's get on with it.

I want you to help us clear up
certain matters. Am I under arrest?

What would you imagine you might be
under arrest for? I'm guilty
of a great deal. But you know that.

Kevin Pearce and the Adams twins.
Are the Adams twins the subject
of this paper of yours?

They had a clever game. Which was
what? Which was what? Exactly.

Please, don't talk in riddles.
You have to keep it clear for me.
You don't understand.

Riddles was the game for Jon
and Terry. I think I can help here.

Thanks very much for the offer,
but it has to be Professor Cullen.

Yes, but I've written on this as
well. Children with absent parents
face certain specific difficulties

and they compensate. These twins
built their own moral universe
with a unique defence. Thank you.

In, er...in your essay,

you talk about two people sharing
one personality. More than one.

And you say one personality
had psychotic tendencies.
What do you mean by that exactly?

Did Jonathan Adams
display a propensity
to become violent or unpredictable?

He suffered command hallucinations.

He thought he was being controlled.
Yet the other twin didn't?

Even though they shared the same
genetics, the same environment...?
That's what was so interesting.

Under what circumstances would Jon
become violent? If he thought
his twin was being threatened.

Who was Papa Doc?

I don't know what you mean.

You signed a book
which you gave to one of the twins,

and you signed it, "From Papa Doc."
Why did you do that?

I'm not sure
I can make you understand.

To make them feel safe.

To make them feel safe? How's that?

Papa Doc was a fright figure,
a golem. Can you explain that?

They started having fantasies
about this figure
they called Papa Doc.

Did they share these fantasies?

Started with Pearce. Then Jonathan.

I signed the book
to make them believe that there was
no Papa Doc other than me.

What was your professional opinion
of the disappearance
of Jonathan Adams and Kevin Pearce?

The Arjana had an open-door policy.
It was part of the trust
relationship... Thank you.

You were saying.

I-I-I couldn't believe
that Pearce had absconded
on his own...on his own account.

You see, he was too dependent.

He didn't have the resources to
start a new life with a new name.

You assumed
he'd followed Jonathan's lead? Yes.

You were afraid that Jonathan
had murdered Kevin, weren't you?

Yes. But you didn't mention
that fear to anyone, did you?

I didn't want... The police
to come to your therapy centre? No.

Hugh...

I was afraid. What?
That you'd be closed down? Yes.

Hugh was under attack
from moralists, hypocrites...

You could have asked for help
for Kevin Pearce's sake!
I could have, yeah.

Ahem.

Let's take a break, shall we?

Can I have a drink?
Yes, of course. Tea?

What kind of a hero is this man
again? He says there's
something he wants to ask you.

He says this is about
one of the twins looking for me.

I said patient.
Hugh is certain it's Jonathan.

Does he want to kill me?

We think he's looking for Papa Doc.

Papa Doc was fantasy.

Papa Doc was real. ..He still is.

Y-You-You mean I betrayed them?

They were trying
to tell you something.

They were victims of abuse.

Please...

can I take him home?

Yeah.

How are you doing?
Problems with the hard drive.

It's been reformatted on several
occasions, but I can read most of
it. I'm not interested in the porn.

You want chat-room stuff. Exactly.
I'm rebuilding those files.

Let me know when you have something.
Our guy's been online
with someone called Papa Doc.

I was confused at first, because
he's used that name as a password
for his computer. It's hairy stuff.

They discuss Tanner's mental state.
Papa Doc says Tanner is responsible
for his own problems.

What does Papa Doc call him?

Tanner goes online as Jonno, but
it doesn't mean it's his real name.

He says his brother wants him to be
free of his dreams.

Frankie, how can you distinguish
between identical twins? Well,
dental work, medical records...

We can't do that, can we? No, we
don't have that information. Why?

This is Papa Doc? Tanner uses him
like a counsellor.

What can you do about the identity
of the person online?
We get an order under the '99 Act.

But it doesn't always work -
internet cafes, office computers...
Yeah, yeah...

Can you get me a
print-out of this? Yes. Thanks.

This is the
classic manipulative relationship.

Papa Doc will have groomed Jonno,
as he calls him,
into an abusive relationship

and now milks him for information
about what he remembers.

He says he only wants to help him,
cares about his welfare...

recommends him
to a counselling service.

Huh. Yeah...

New Life Direction.

Of course.
We'll deal with her later.

If this IS the real Papa Doc,
why would he be doing this?

Well, if it's about power,
power's heightened by risk.

But Peter Murdoch killed himself.

He confessed to being Papa Doc,
so why would this person
log on as Papa Doc?

OK, well, let's assume Murdoch
isn't Papa Doc and that
the suicide note was a forgery.

Why would this person blow an alibi?

He achieved control over
the boys as Papa Doc when
they were adolescents, so maybe...

He's just reasserting that control?

Whoever this is logged on as Papa
Doc, he has an intimate knowledge

of what went on
at the Arjana Centre.

He knows all about
Cullen's kind of therapy.

KNOCK ON DOOR
Come in.

Well, my department ran a check.

It seems Hugh Cullen doesn't pay
for internet services or have
a subscription for another ISP.

Clear, unambiguous
statement of fact.

Very rare in this unit.

Thank you very much. Thanks. Bye.

So...

These are all his work things.
I was too upset to go through them.

And you haven't looked
through them until now? No.

People said I should sell
his books, sort out his papers and
stuff, but I just couldn't face it.

I'm sorry to put you through it all
again. Is there anything specific
you think might be useful to us?

Yeah, well,
there are these diaries.

That's not his proper office diary.

This was started
a month before he died.

Detailing conversations
or phone calls with someone.
"Talk to D." "Memo sent to D."

"No response from D."
Any idea who D is?

It could be the department.

Did he have any concerns
with his department?

I don't know. He didn't talk
that much about his work.

- This IS his handwriting? Yes, yes.
- Why would he do that?

Could be trying to draw attention
to an abuse situation, rather
than covering one up, do you think?

Yeah, but if Peter was innocent
of all that, you know, if it wasn't
him, why did he kill himself?

Well,
he was found dead on a railway line.

That's all anybody knows.

Apart from an unsigned suicide note.
You can look into all this again.

You can find out
if my husband did kill himself.

The coroner had the suicide note,
didn't he? Yes, I gave it to him
after the department gave it to me.

It was sent to the department?
So who was it addressed to?

Here...

You have the envelope.

"Friends...& Colleagues".

You keep everything, you see.

You just want to hold on.
I understand.

EK02 TKV. Leather. Fully loaded.

Linguatronic. Keyless go.

Distronic driving control.

What are you talking about? You
tell it what to do. Linguatronic.

Follow car. Automatic distance.
Speed management. That's distronic.

You've been in his car. Where
did he take you? What address?

What colour was the car? Black.

EK02 TKV.

EK02 TKV. EK02 TKV. EK02 TKV.

EK02 TKV. Linguatronic.

Distronic driving control.

Are you going to kill him?
Kill him?

You watch what I do.

Oh, hello. Yes, this is
Keith Fuller at Union Credit.

I need to make an inquiry
about a vehicle on which
we have a payment default.

EK02 TK...V for Victor.

Keith?
We weren't expecting you back.

I'm feeling a bit better, thanks.

I hope you've been to Mr Hampson
with your medical note. Course.
Well, it's nice to see you back.

Yeah. And the address...?

601 KJM. W2 1S. 562 HGM. 61...

Patrick Rainham - the guy Tanner
was with when he shot the guard -

was at the Arjana Centre at the same
time as the Adams twins and Pearce.

Is that a clear, unambiguous
statement of fact?
Yes.

Frankie wants you.
What about?

The break-in at Poole's place.

Hi, Frankie. Hi. Keep it simple
cos my brain has turned to mush. OK.

The carpet
inside the broken window

was completely free of
any organic material from outside.

There's no evidence of any fibres
snagged on the edges,

which there would have been if
someone had put their arm through.

In order to unlock the window?
I think they broke it for effect.

- You interviewed the staff, Spence?
- Cast-iron alibis.

So someone else
must have had a key.

Jonathan Tanner - or Jonathan Adams
as his real name is - has a gun
and he's looking for his abuser.

He's teamed up with another survivor
from the Arjana Centre. When they
find him, a murder may be committed.

What a patient says in therapy...
Is confidential. ..he may not mean!

We have some common ground,
after all, Miss Poole.

But you get to choose what's true,
and then you steer me towards your
agenda. I took a risk coming here.

You should have left your attitude
at the door and asked for help.
We're wasting our time. I'm not.

I'm not wasting a second of my time.

Who else had keys to your offices?
You interviewed...
All the staff, yeah.

Someone else who wasn't there
that day. Only Oliver.

He never comes in. He's
a sleeping partner. Oliver Gill?

He is the principal investor.
What are you getting at now?

Oliver Gill's the principal investor
and has keys to your offices.

He owns the building.
He moved us in after we expanded.

He set up New Life Directions? He
has long experience of social work.

He has brought a lot of business
in. He encourages the practice
to specialise in abuse cases?

Yes. Which you assume
is his public-spirited response

to a widespread... And neglected
social problem. Yes?

Did he review your cases?

We discussed it.
What are you getting at?

Did he ever borrow your case notes?

I suppose.

Does he have a real curiosity
in abuse cases more than others?

This is absurd! Do you know
about his life outside office hours?

How convenient for you to put us in
the dock. This is not the moment.

KNOCK ON DOOR

He's not answering his home phone.
..Do you have
a business address for him?

Clear statement of fact

is what is required now, Miss Poole.

Please.

Answer the question.

He's sometimes in his studio.

Which studio? Where?

After New Life Directions expanded,
he said he was converting
the building we were in

into a studio, a photo...
a photographic studio.

So do you have an address
or a phone number?

What are you saying about Oliver?

Oliver Gill staged the break-in
at your offices.

And if we don't get to him
quickly... Jonathan Adams...may.

Oliver Gill staged the break-in
at your offices.

He sent Tanner to you.
He's known the boy a long time.

And if we don't get to him
quickly... Jonathan Adams...may.

Spence.

What's your name, son? Robert.

All right with you?

Music...
MUSIC STARTS TO PLAY

Magic.

Frankie? Yeah. Looks like the
hard drive from New Life Directions.

Come on.

PHONE RINGS
Hello?

It looks like Gill is Papa Doc.

- Tell Frankie to do her usual
routine. We're going to his house.
- She's on it.

DOOR OPENS

Don't be shy. Come on inside.

Up the stairs.

It's the room on the right.

FOOTSTEPS ON STAIRS

FOOTSTEPS ECHO, FRIGHTENED BREATHING

Go on.

Go in.

Let's leave the lights for now.

Sit down.

If you do well,
I could take you for a screen test.

Clean you up first.

See if we can find
the inner actor in you.

Don't touch him.
GUN CLICKS

I wanna go.

What's the problem, Jonno?

Couldn't anyone
fix the hole in your soul?

We don't want a firearms unit yet.

OK. ..Please tell them to stand by.

Hey!

All right...

Did you never think this day
would come? Did you think you was
just gonna get away with it?

Jonno, what are you talking about?
Shut it, right?! Jonno!

17 years I've waited for this!

I never hurt anyone.
I always loved my friends.

Jonno? Who are you?
I'm a police officer.

Whoa! Whoa!
There's no one else here.

I'm not here for you. I've come
to question Gill about what he did
to your brother and to Kevin Pearce.

I never hurt anyone. Don't you
understand? Shut up! 16-year-olds.

Just put the gun down. Back up!
Back up! Back yourself up, yeah?

DOOR CREAKS

Just put the gun down...

Who's that?! Listen to me...

Don't talk shit to me! Don't
talk shit to me. Who is it?!

Grace, go back out. Go back out.
..Jonno, listen to me.

She's not a police officer.
Get out the way of the door!

You be a good boy now.
Don't you move.

Be a good boy now.

Jonathan,
if...if you shoot this man,

no-one will ever know
what he did to your brother.

He made them want to die.

He made them want to die.

Yeah.

But if you shoot him, Jonathan,

if you shoot him,
then no-one will ever know
how your brother, Terry...

..and Kevin...

they'll never know how they died.

Jonathan...

Jonathan...

..you saw the book, didn't you?
The book?

You did.
With the picture of your brother.

What memories did that bring back?

How I found them.

How you found them...

We cut them down.

Who's we? Me and Rainman.

What did you do then?
We buried them.

Not such a big man now, are you?
Not such a big man. You slag!

You slag! No! You slag. NO!

You're going to hell...

Just take it easy, all right?

Just take it easy.

Grace, you all right?

Mel?

Get him out of here.

He's mad. No-one will ever
believe him. ..Just look at him.

Just one question, Mr Gill.

After you killed Peter Murdoch,
did you forge his suicide note?

Don't be ridiculous.

Then why did you lick the stamp?

You OK?
Yeah. I ain't gonna do nothing.

You want to get up now? ..OK.

OK, let's get up now.

Up you get. All right?
I didn't do nothing.

You're going to take it easy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

OK.

Are you sure, Jonno?

OK. Yeah?

OK. Just breathe easily.
Are you all right?

'NO!'

Subtitles by Mary Easton
BBC Broadcast - 2003