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[thunderclap]
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[screaming]
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- [Newscaster] A riot
has erupted at the
Patterson Theater
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in Baltimore during a midnight
screening of a horror film.
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- [Man] They burned that film.
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- [Reporter] There
is some speculation
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that the body may be that
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of local filmmaker Karl Atticus.
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- [Trooper] A weapon was
located near the body
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that's capable of
producing the type
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of trauma that was displayed.
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- [Man] I don't think
anybody liked the guy.
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I'm not surprised he's dead.
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He's probably rotting in hell
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where he belongs.
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- Do you know anything
about Karl Atticus?
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- That's a name I know.
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He was renowned for using
dead bodies in his films.
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- You're better off not even
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mentioning his name.
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- That name is a death sentence
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for anyone in the film industry!
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- Listen, too many
people disappeared
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after that movie...
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- [Man] Devil made that film...
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Devil made that film.
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[eerie piano theme]
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- We were actually
shooting "Blair Witch"
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in the fall of '97
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and there was a guy on the set
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that we hired and he was kind
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of an expert on all kinds
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of mythology of Maryland.
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He was kind of helping us build
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the mythology and stuff
for "Blair Witch."
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And he started telling
us about "Mortal Remains"
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and this guy Karl Atticus
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who was this filmmaker that was
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supposedly a member of a cult
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and the rumor was that he was
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taking bodies out of cemeteries
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and then shooting his films
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with these cadavers.
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He did this film
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and it never was released,
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all the prints were destroyed.
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And then he supposedly
killed himself.
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- [Mark] Ed Sanchez mentioned
that you told him about
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a Baltimore filmmaker from the
'70s, some guy named Karl--
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- He told you about this?
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This is not something I should
have ever told him about.
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You mention this guy's name,
and bad stuff starts happening.
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- [Chris] -Karl Atticus?
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- Yeah, I remember him, he was
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a fairly unpleasant individual.
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- Really?
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- Yeah, I didn't like working
with him but I had to work,
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it was a job.
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- [Mark] Would you happen
to also know where a
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print of the film is?
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Nobody seems to be able to find
a copy of "Mortal Remains,"
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a print of the
actual film itself.
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- [Man] Hopefully
it's buried somewhere.
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And who knows, he might
have people buried with it.
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- They were what my father
would call "butcher films."
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- That movie is sick! It's sick!
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- Can you tell me what was
so disturbing about it?
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- Right after "Blair Witch,"
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people were sending me
all kinds of things,
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on VHS and e-mail and stuff.
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Somebody sent me an e-mail
with a Quicktime on it,
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with supposedly 30 seconds
of "Mortal Remains" on it.
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[eerie music]
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- [Chris] -Karl
Atticus, a filmmaker?
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- Karl Atticus, oh boy...
He was someone that, well,
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he did some films I think in
the late '60s, early '70s.
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Most of them were based
on books by Vernon Blake.
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He was kind of regarded,
I guess, as one of the
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pioneers of splatter films.
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In the early '70s, I guess
people just weren't ready
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for that kind of
thing back then.
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- [Chris] What do
you know about him?
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- Well, he did a
movie I believe in the
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late '60s called
"Culture Shock,"
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and then, from what I
remember, there was a
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little bit of controversy,
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there was a film
in the early '70s
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that was called
"Mortal Remains."
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[Mark] Does that
film still exist?
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- Um... Well, in bits
and pieces I guess-
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- [Mark] You don't
know of any copy or
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print of the film
that exists today?
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- No print, I have no idea...
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You know, if anybody
would be able to locate a
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print of that film,
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that would just be
a total goldmine.
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- [Chris] All right, let's
check out Loch Raven.
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Municipal Loch Raven.
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- [Mark] Welcome to Main
Street. This is pretty much it.
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- [Chris] There you have it.
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- [Mark] Well, one
thing's for sure,
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if he came from
this small a place,
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I mean,
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literally nowhere,
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it simply means
that no one else is
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going to remember this guy.
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Which is good for us,
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because if nobody remembers
who Karl Atticus was,
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then we may actually be
sitting on a goldmine.
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- [Chris] Nobody remembers.
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There was nothing even online.
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We'll unlock the
mystery of Karl Atticus.
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His mystery will become
our history. [laughs]
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- [Mark] Chris and I met in
high school in the late '80s.
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Since then we've always
had film in common.
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- Ah, Albert.
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Good to see you.
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Come finish this program-
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[explosion]
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[screaming]
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- [Chris] We were making
YouTube videos before
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YouTube even existed.
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- Hey! [whistles] Listen,
you're gonna need to
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help me here, buddy!
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I'm stuck in the TV,
somewhere In the VCR unit,
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and I need to get the hell out!
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- [Chris] You're stuck?
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What do you mean stuck?
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- "What do you mean
stuck?" S-T-U-C-K,
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I'm stuck, for crying out loud!
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- [Chris] Well, how the hell
did you get stuck in the VCR?
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[suspenseful music]
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[screaming and choking]
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- Hey, hey! Hey-
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[thud]
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- [Chris] And then
"Blair Witch" happened.
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- [Mark] We were floored.
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How did these guys manage that?
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- [Chris] We actually
went to high school with
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the director, Ed Sanchez.
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- [Mark] He became
an instant idol to us
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because he was a hometown
boy who'd made it big.
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- [Chris] We always
thought we'd be
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the ones to make it big.
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- I'm sorry to
Chris's parents...
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- [Chris] Like everybody
else, we made a parody.
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- To my kindergarten
teacher, Mrs. Klinglesmith...
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- [Chris] We sent it to
Ed. It reconnected us all.
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- [Mark] Which led to
us making a documentary
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on the how and why of the
"Blair Witch" phenomenon.
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Naturally, the first thing we
wanted to do was interview Ed.
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We asked him to share stories
from the set of "Blair Witch"
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which perhaps no one
had ever heard before.
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- [Chris] That
was the first time
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we ever heard about
"Mortal Remains,"
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or its director, Karl Atticus.
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So we just got a
call from Ed Sanchez.
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It's a very interesting message.
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Pay attention to
what he has to say,
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I think you'll find
it most enlightening.
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- [Chris] There it
is, right there.
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- [Mark] I don't know, I still--
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- What do you mean,
you don't know?
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He's talking to producers! He
said there's some interest.
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Do you want to be broke forever?
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This is worth looking
into, absolutely.
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- [Mark] I still think we should
do the "Blair Witch" thing.
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"Blair Witch" has a
built-in audience-
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- [Chris] A built-in audience?
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What, we're gonna make
a couple of bucks making
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a documentary about somebody
else's movie? Come on.
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- [Mark] Well,
all I'm saying is,
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if we go through
all the trouble, and
nobody's interested...
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Ed's not saying,
Hey, come on out here
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to Hollywood and
meet these people,
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he's saying, finish the film.
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What happens when we're done
with it and nobody likes it?
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- [Chris] Why do you think
no one's gonna like it?
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He already said
there's interest in it.
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- [Mark] Nobody knows
about Karl Atticus!
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- [Chris] They will
when we're done!
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So you've lived here in
Loch Raven all your life.
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- [Man] All my life.
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- [Chris] Does the name
Atticus ring a bell?
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Especially Karl Atticus?
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- No. No.
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- I've never heard
of him before.
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- Doesn't ring a bell.
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- [Chris] No?
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- No.
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- Nope, never heard of him.
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- Never have, no.
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- That's kind of the
consensus on Karl Atticus.
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- They lived in a
house down the street.
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It burned down years ago.
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- Right down the street,
they used to live?
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- And then they moved out
to Howard County in the
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country and lived
in a house there.
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- Another house?
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There was one guy in
particular, Karl Atticus...
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- [Man] A young
fellow, is that right?
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- [Chris] Yes, he
was a filmmaker.
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- [Man] Oh yes, yes, he
was there, he lived there.
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- [Narrator] Karl
Atticus was born on
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October 4th, 1947 in
Loch Raven, Maryland.
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- [Chris] You grew
up with Karl Atticus,
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you knew him very well?
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- I guess I met him
in the late 50s,
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it would have been '58, '59.
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He was a couple, several
years older than I was.
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Kind of a sickly kid.
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I can remember
going by his house
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in the neighborhood with
the quarantine signs up.
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He had polio, so he was
quarantined for a year.
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Because of that he started
reading a lot at an early age.
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If I can remember,
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he read Lovecraft,
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and Poe,
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and then he got into some
southern gothic writer.
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Blake, I think
that was his name.
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He was very much...
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almost obsessed
with this writer.
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- [Narrator] An only
child, Karl was the son of
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Margaret Cordelia Cowan
and Ivan Atticus III,
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a professor of
history and literature
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at Johns Hopkins University.
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- Professor Atticus, um...
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A very creepy guy.
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A very private man...
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There were a lot of rumors,
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stories revolving around him.
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- [Roland] I recall one
time, we were just kids,
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and we went up into the attic
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and we found this old chest.
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We opened the chest up,
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it belonged to his father,
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and there were a number of
strange things in there,
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robes and knives,
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and any number of
Vernon Blake novels.
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- [Narrator] Police
records indicate that
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Karl witnessed the
death of his father
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in an unexplained car
crash in late 1950.
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- [Anne] It could
have been suicide.
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I know for a fact that
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his wife committed
suicide, many years later.
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- His mother, I guess
this was in the late '60s,
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wound up taking her life.
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No doubt, it was very
traumatic for him.
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It devastated him.
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It was a wound that,
no doubt, he carried--
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- [Chris] And he was
left all alone, I guess?
252
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Yeah, he was pretty much alone,
253
00:13:53,767 --> 00:13:55,800
and at that point he started
254
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to really go downhill.
255
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He became -- withdrawn.
256
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Dark.
257
00:14:03,667 --> 00:14:05,100
He was just distant.
258
00:14:05,133 --> 00:14:08,533
It was like something had
really changed in him.
259
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[desolate piano]
260
00:14:13,633 --> 00:14:15,800
Now that I think about it,
261
00:14:15,833 --> 00:14:19,367
a couple of weeks
before he went missing,
262
00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:23,933
Karl left this cigar
box on my porch
263
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,333
that had some photographs
and clippings,
264
00:14:29,067 --> 00:14:30,867
and some strange things.
265
00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:32,333
- [Chris] That's not something
you still have, is it?
266
00:14:32,367 --> 00:14:33,267
- Oh, yeah.
267
00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:34,733
I think it's up in the attic.
268
00:14:34,767 --> 00:14:37,700
I guess I've held
onto it because
269
00:14:37,733 --> 00:14:39,200
he was a friend at one time,
270
00:14:39,233 --> 00:14:43,233
a childhood friend, and I
feel bad about the tragedy.
271
00:14:44,167 --> 00:14:46,367
Ah! That goes way back.
272
00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,867
- [Chris] Is that you? My God.
273
00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:48,700
- Yeah.
274
00:14:48,733 --> 00:14:50,433
- Who's that?
275
00:14:50,467 --> 00:14:52,633
- That's his mom.
276
00:14:52,667 --> 00:14:54,733
I guess she went to
Johns Hopkins too.
277
00:14:54,767 --> 00:14:58,667
I don't think this is a
high school graduation.
278
00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:02,200
Her husband, Karl's dad,
was a professor there.
279
00:15:02,233 --> 00:15:03,433
- Makes sense.
280
00:15:04,633 --> 00:15:08,167
- And this is what, I'd
forgotten about this...
281
00:15:08,767 --> 00:15:09,533
- [Chris] Jeez.
282
00:15:09,567 --> 00:15:11,667
- Yeah, it's strange.
283
00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:13,133
That must be Karl.
284
00:15:13,167 --> 00:15:15,667
Unbelievable. I haven't
seen this in years.
285
00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,133
- [Chris] That's incredible.
286
00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:20,100
Do you mind if we borrow
and scan some of this stuff?
287
00:15:20,133 --> 00:15:21,933
- No, help yourself.
288
00:15:21,967 --> 00:15:23,967
- [Chris] Thank you so much.
289
00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,833
- [Mark] There's a
tape in there too.
290
00:15:25,867 --> 00:15:28,200
- Yeah, the tape...
291
00:15:29,367 --> 00:15:32,233
Just before Karl died he
left a message for me.
292
00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:36,633
It freaked me out.
It's a strange message.
293
00:15:37,733 --> 00:15:40,167
I'd forgotten all about that.
294
00:16:38,333 --> 00:16:41,833
- Well, here we are at
Black Hills Cemetery,
295
00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:46,133
and it's not open
for business yet.
296
00:16:46,167 --> 00:16:47,133
- [Mark] Whose idea
was it to show up
297
00:16:47,167 --> 00:16:49,567
at 7:00 in the morning?
298
00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,167
- I would have to say...yours.
299
00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,067
- [Mark] No, no... [laughs]
300
00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:56,733
Let's go get some breakfast.
301
00:16:56,767 --> 00:16:57,767
- Good idea.
302
00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:03,600
[melancholy music]
303
00:17:21,167 --> 00:17:23,533
- [Mark] Did you contact the
Baltimore police department?
304
00:17:23,567 --> 00:17:24,500
- [Chris] Yes.
305
00:17:24,533 --> 00:17:25,467
- Did they get back to you?
306
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:26,467
- Not yet, no.
307
00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:27,667
- Did you contact-
308
00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:28,600
- Shut up and let me
get the shot, will you?
309
00:17:28,633 --> 00:17:31,067
- [Mark] How big is this place?
310
00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:33,933
- Pretty big. It's
a big old cemetery.
311
00:17:33,967 --> 00:17:35,200
We should go to the office.
312
00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:37,033
I bet they have some
kind of a register.
313
00:17:37,067 --> 00:17:39,867
- [Mark] The problem is,
I'm stepping on shit,
314
00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:42,033
and it's like- Look at this,
315
00:17:42,067 --> 00:17:44,800
there are stones here
that aren't even marked.
316
00:17:44,833 --> 00:17:46,833
- Well, those are
obviously way too old.
317
00:17:46,867 --> 00:17:48,367
Maybe there's a
groundskeeper or a caretaker
318
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,033
around here we could ask.
319
00:17:51,067 --> 00:17:52,533
- [Mark] Tell you
what, why don't we-
320
00:17:52,567 --> 00:17:53,767
- [Chris] There's a
guy right over there.
321
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,700
We could ask him.
322
00:17:54,733 --> 00:17:56,667
Sir? Excuse me, sir?
323
00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:58,633
we're trying to find
a particular grave.
324
00:17:58,667 --> 00:18:01,333
Did you ever hear
of a Karl Atticus?
325
00:18:01,367 --> 00:18:03,400
- That crazy movie guy?
326
00:18:03,433 --> 00:18:05,133
- That'll be the one, yeah.
327
00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:06,467
is he around here still?
328
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,100
- No.
329
00:18:08,133 --> 00:18:10,400
People were always trying
to get into his grave.
330
00:18:10,433 --> 00:18:11,300
They moved him.
331
00:18:11,333 --> 00:18:12,633
- [Chris] Get out.
332
00:18:12,667 --> 00:18:13,900
They moved the body?
333
00:18:13,933 --> 00:18:14,800
Yeah.
334
00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:18,233
I have no idea where.
335
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,933
I know he has a family
plot around here somewhere,
336
00:18:20,967 --> 00:18:22,800
his family's laid out here.
337
00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:24,133
- [Chris] You know
where that is?
338
00:18:24,167 --> 00:18:26,100
- Somewhere in that
area over there.
339
00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:28,500
You'd probably have to go
to the office and find out.
340
00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:29,833
- [Chris] Fantastic!
Thank you very much.
341
00:18:29,867 --> 00:18:30,833
- You're quite welcome.
342
00:18:34,733 --> 00:18:36,533
- [Receptionist] This
should be the book.
343
00:18:40,033 --> 00:18:41,167
- How do you spell that name?
344
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,300
- [Chris] A-T-T-I-C-U-S.
345
00:18:49,633 --> 00:18:52,233
[eerie music]
346
00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:59,867
- Looks like that index
page isn't in here.
347
00:19:00,533 --> 00:19:01,267
That's strange.
348
00:19:02,733 --> 00:19:04,200
- Is that the right book?
349
00:19:04,233 --> 00:19:06,600
- Yeah, this is
definitely the right book,
350
00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:07,867
it's just-
351
00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:11,133
The Atticus name should be on-
352
00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:13,867
-there, and it's not.
353
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,467
Let's just try the-
354
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,100
There's about four
pages not here.
355
00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:20,500
This is very strange.
356
00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:21,933
- [Mark] Would somebody
maybe remove them
357
00:19:21,967 --> 00:19:23,200
for a particular reason?
358
00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:26,133
- Well, if somebody
needs to make copies
359
00:19:26,167 --> 00:19:27,867
for any reason, they
should take them out,
360
00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,900
but they should
immediately replace them.
361
00:19:29,933 --> 00:19:32,000
- [Chris] Maybe
somebody was careless.
362
00:19:32,033 --> 00:19:34,500
- And my boss isn't here
right now for me to ask him,
363
00:19:34,533 --> 00:19:37,400
and I certainly wouldn't
want to go through his desk.
364
00:19:37,433 --> 00:19:38,267
But...
365
00:19:39,433 --> 00:19:40,333
Wow.
366
00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:43,300
These books are very special,
367
00:19:43,333 --> 00:19:46,867
and we never leave anything
out of them for very long.
368
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:51,067
The only thing I could do for
you, under the circumstances-
369
00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:58,867
I'm gonna put a marker in
here so I can tell him.
370
00:20:00,867 --> 00:20:03,733
- [Mark] This is the
end of the road, then.
371
00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:06,233
There are no other sections.
372
00:20:06,267 --> 00:20:10,267
- Well, this is the area she
pointed to on the map, but-
373
00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:13,167
I don't know, it's 1973
we're looking for...
374
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,267
There's a lot of stuff
from the 1800s here.
375
00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:16,267
- [Manager] Hey!
376
00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:17,500
- [Chris] Hello?
377
00:20:17,533 --> 00:20:19,100
- You guys were in the office?
378
00:20:19,133 --> 00:20:20,600
- [Chris] A moment
ago, yes we were.
379
00:20:20,633 --> 00:20:22,467
- [Mark] Can you help, actually?
380
00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:24,700
- We were trying to find a plot,
381
00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:25,967
a fellow who was buried here--
382
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,600
- Is that thing still on?
383
00:20:27,633 --> 00:20:28,767
- [Mark] ...Yeah?
384
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,967
- Would you mind
turning it off, please.
385
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,133
All right, what's- What's
your interest in Atticus?
386
00:20:35,167 --> 00:20:37,467
- [Chris] Well, we're
a couple of filmmakers
387
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,767
making a documentary-
388
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,700
- No. This is a place
of respect and repose.
389
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,867
We don't make films here.
390
00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,133
- [Chris] I know,
I understand that.
391
00:20:46,167 --> 00:20:46,967
- No, I'm really sorry.
You don't understand.
392
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,800
Is that thing off?
393
00:20:48,433 --> 00:20:48,633
- [Mark] Yeah.
394
00:20:49,267 --> 00:20:49,933
It's off.
395
00:20:49,967 --> 00:20:50,767
- Is it off!
396
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,133
- [Mark] It's off, sir!
397
00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,300
- I've had enough problems,
398
00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:54,233
this institution has
had enough problems
399
00:20:54,267 --> 00:20:55,667
over the years, with Atticus-
400
00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:57,067
Hey! Is that thing still on?!
401
00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:58,567
- [Mark] No, sir.
402
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,833
- [Chris] Other people have
been asking about Atticus?
403
00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:03,200
- Let me make this
very, abundantly clear:
404
00:21:03,233 --> 00:21:07,400
All further inquiries about
Atticus cease right now.
405
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:10,000
You're not welcome,
and I want you
406
00:21:10,033 --> 00:21:11,800
to pack up this camera
and get on the road.
407
00:21:11,833 --> 00:21:15,867
Listen, I can call the police,
or I can take another route
408
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,033
which is far more
unpleasant, okay?
409
00:21:18,067 --> 00:21:20,833
So get out of here right now,
410
00:21:20,867 --> 00:21:21,700
and I mean it!
411
00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:23,333
Come on, let's go!
412
00:21:24,433 --> 00:21:26,500
- [Mark] Okay, all
right, we're leaving...
413
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,467
- [Mark] What the hell
is that guy's beef?
414
00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:32,367
- [Chris] I don't
know. He's pissed.
415
00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:33,333
- Christ!
416
00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:36,067
Let's just get the
hell out of here.
417
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,967
We'll come back later, some
other time to look around.
418
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,367
- [Mark] Who the
fuck is he calling?
419
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,000
- [Manager] They were
here about Atticus...
420
00:21:46,667 --> 00:21:48,433
- [Mark] I wonder if
he's calling the cops?
421
00:21:55,867 --> 00:21:57,700
[crickets]
422
00:22:16,033 --> 00:22:18,133
- [Mark] You find anything?
423
00:22:18,167 --> 00:22:19,500
- [Chris] Let's just
come back tomorrow.
424
00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:22,367
Christ, I can see barely
anything at all anyway.
425
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,867
- [Mark] We're not gonna
be able to get in here
426
00:22:24,467 --> 00:22:25,500
except at night.
427
00:22:26,433 --> 00:22:27,967
[distant train whistle]
428
00:22:32,833 --> 00:22:33,833
- [Chris] Karl
could be anywhere!
429
00:22:33,867 --> 00:22:35,267
- [Mark] Karl could be anywhere,
430
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:36,500
but I say we keep looking
for his family plot.
431
00:22:36,533 --> 00:22:37,900
- [Chris] The guy said
432
00:22:37,933 --> 00:22:39,467
the body's been
moved at least once.
433
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,400
- [Mark] What is your
problem? Jesus Christ.
434
00:22:41,433 --> 00:22:42,767
- [Chris] Mark, this
place is fucking huge.
435
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,733
It's pitch black.
436
00:22:43,767 --> 00:22:44,867
This is a wild goose chase!
437
00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:45,833
I cannot-
438
00:22:45,867 --> 00:22:47,133
- [Mark] It's spread out, yes,
439
00:22:47,167 --> 00:22:48,333
so why don't you just
stop standing there,
440
00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,300
and keep looking! Jeez.
441
00:22:57,367 --> 00:22:58,333
- I can't even see the names on
442
00:22:58,367 --> 00:22:59,833
these frigging stones...
443
00:22:59,867 --> 00:23:02,433
- Would you quit your whining
and relax, for God's sakes?
444
00:23:02,467 --> 00:23:03,867
- This is stupid.
445
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:05,400
- [Mark] Look, we haven't
been here that long.
446
00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:07,000
- There's gotta be somebody
who's gonna catch us here.
447
00:23:07,033 --> 00:23:08,267
- They're not gonna
be able to find us,
448
00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:09,567
not in this huge
place. C'mon, Chris.
449
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,500
Give it a little while. I mean,
450
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:14,667
We haven't even been
here more than two hours,
451
00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:17,067
we haven't even seen half
of what is out there...
452
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,400
- [Chris] Well, we're not
gonna see anything in the dark.
453
00:23:18,433 --> 00:23:19,867
- [Mark] I can see just fine!
454
00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:23,233
Pull your flashlight out,
will you for crying out loud?
455
00:23:35,333 --> 00:23:36,600
[creaking noise]
456
00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:38,800
- [Chris] What was that?
457
00:23:40,267 --> 00:23:43,567
- [Mark] Quit your whining!
I'm over here, man.
458
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,667
Jesus Christ.
459
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:45,500
- [Chris] Mark?
460
00:23:45,533 --> 00:23:46,367
Christ! What?
461
00:23:47,767 --> 00:23:49,467
- That's it, man. I'm going
back to the car in five minutes.
462
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:50,733
You wanna look in
that direction? I'm
waiting right here.
463
00:23:50,767 --> 00:23:51,967
- [Mark] I'm gonna get
it all done tonight.
464
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,167
You're want to
look in that area,
465
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,167
I'm gonna go look over-
466
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,333
- I'm gonna stay right here.
467
00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:56,533
- [Mark] Fine, you
can wait, 'cause
468
00:23:56,567 --> 00:23:57,933
I'm not gonna leave till
I look and make sure
469
00:23:57,967 --> 00:24:01,133
that we've got everything
we came here for.
470
00:24:01,167 --> 00:24:02,967
There's only one
more section to go-
471
00:24:06,033 --> 00:24:07,700
- [Chris] [sighs] Oh my God...
472
00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:12,833
- [Mark] Fucking
complaining all the time.
473
00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:17,500
- [Chris] Hey! Mark?
474
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,833
Whoa!
475
00:24:21,567 --> 00:24:23,900
Mark, did you see that?
476
00:24:25,067 --> 00:24:25,867
Mark!
477
00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:26,800
- [Mark] What?
478
00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:27,900
[chris mumbles in distance]
479
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:29,400
- [Mark] What?
480
00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:32,333
- [Chris] Okay, we need to
go. We need to go right now.
481
00:24:32,367 --> 00:24:36,533
We need to go! I just saw
something moving, we gotta go.
482
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,133
- [Mark] Just relax,
will you, man?
483
00:24:42,267 --> 00:24:45,167
- [Chris] Fuck this. Oh, man...
484
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,967
Where the hell are you?
485
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,767
- [Mark] Let's
just keep looking.
486
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,133
Chris, just keep
looking, all right?
487
00:24:52,167 --> 00:24:54,733
- [Chris] Get back
here! Come on, let's go.
488
00:24:54,767 --> 00:24:57,267
Damn it, where the hell are you?
489
00:24:58,067 --> 00:24:58,900
Mark?
490
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,300
- [Mark] What, are you-
491
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:01,733
[screams]
492
00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:04,800
[muffled screaming]
493
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,633
- [Chris] Jesus, Mark!
494
00:25:09,567 --> 00:25:10,967
Mark!
495
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,633
Where are you?
496
00:25:12,667 --> 00:25:13,467
[muffled screaming]
497
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:15,000
[heavy body blow]
498
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,233
[moaning]
499
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:17,333
Mark!
500
00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:20,067
Mark-
501
00:25:20,667 --> 00:25:21,300
Holy shit!
502
00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:22,300
Are you okay?
503
00:25:22,333 --> 00:25:23,567
What happened?
504
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,933
Jesus... What happened?
505
00:25:29,967 --> 00:25:33,567
[eerie music]
506
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800
- They definitely know
that I have a concussion,
507
00:25:44,833 --> 00:25:47,433
and they're gonna run some
more x-rays this afternoon.
508
00:25:47,467 --> 00:25:49,900
They're worried
that maybe I have
509
00:25:49,933 --> 00:25:51,467
some internal bleeding now,
510
00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:53,967
so we'll find out soon enough.
511
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,733
When are you coming by?
512
00:25:57,767 --> 00:26:00,400
- [Chris] Soon as I can. Look,
do you wanna call the cops?
513
00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:03,000
- Hell no! No, no, no, man.
514
00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,600
Do not. Call. The police.
515
00:26:05,633 --> 00:26:06,800
No matter what you do,
516
00:26:06,833 --> 00:26:08,267
don't call the
police, all right?
517
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,933
And if you do, I wasn't there.
518
00:26:09,967 --> 00:26:11,433
Don't even mention my name.
519
00:26:11,467 --> 00:26:13,700
Do you want to explain what we
were doing there last night?
520
00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:15,300
Come on, man! Think!
521
00:26:16,767 --> 00:26:17,733
- You're gonna be able to
film this weekend, right?
522
00:26:17,767 --> 00:26:18,967
- What!
523
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,467
- We gotta meet that
guy at the university.
524
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:21,967
- No, Chris, I'm not gonna
be filming this weekend.
525
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,433
I can barely see out of one eye!
526
00:26:23,467 --> 00:26:24,933
- [Chris] Well, what the hell-
527
00:26:24,967 --> 00:26:27,933
- Come on, man, be real. Now
you're just being an asshole!
528
00:26:27,967 --> 00:26:29,733
Don't be such a fucking idiot!
529
00:26:29,767 --> 00:26:33,667
No, I'm not gonna be in shape
to be filming this weekend!
530
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,500
- [Chris] In order to
keep the project on track,
531
00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:38,933
I went out and hired
a new cameraman.
532
00:26:38,967 --> 00:26:40,767
So this is Josh,
our new cameraman.
533
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Say hi, Josh!
534
00:26:41,633 --> 00:26:43,067
- Hi Josh.
535
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,800
- [Chris] I then
began investigating
536
00:26:44,833 --> 00:26:48,900
the book "Mortal Remains"
and its author, Vernon Blake.
537
00:26:51,667 --> 00:26:53,667
- [Narrator] The details
of Vernon Blake's life are
538
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:55,100
shrouded in obscurity,
539
00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:58,167
except to a small number of
collectors and historians.
540
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,667
Foremost among these is
541
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,033
Professor Lyle Thackeray
of Penn State University.
542
00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:04,900
- Very few people
are even aware of
543
00:27:04,933 --> 00:27:07,467
Vernon Blake's existence.
544
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,167
His fiction never
sold well nor widely.
545
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,333
He was rejected by numerous
reputable publishers,
546
00:27:14,367 --> 00:27:15,733
so he self-published,
547
00:27:15,767 --> 00:27:17,767
we suspect, out of spite.
548
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:23,000
His work was extremely
graphic and sexually explicit.
549
00:27:24,233 --> 00:27:27,467
Not things that were a
big deal in the 1920s,
550
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,933
but he had a way of
combining the two
551
00:27:29,967 --> 00:27:33,733
in a manner that was
distinctly unsettling.
552
00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:36,133
- I have been collecting
Vernon Blake's work
553
00:27:36,167 --> 00:27:37,400
for a number of years,
554
00:27:37,433 --> 00:27:39,667
and it's not easy to find.
555
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:41,367
A very obscure writer.
556
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,400
Through a number of years
of research I was able to
557
00:27:44,433 --> 00:27:48,233
piece together a few bits of
information about his past.
558
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:50,600
He was really left
to his own devices
559
00:27:50,633 --> 00:27:52,633
from a fairly early age.
560
00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:53,933
He did a fair
amount of traveling
561
00:27:53,967 --> 00:27:55,333
through various
parts of the world.
562
00:27:55,367 --> 00:27:57,333
For example, he spent
some time in Haiti,
563
00:27:57,367 --> 00:28:01,000
where he became very
fascinated with voodoo.
564
00:28:02,133 --> 00:28:04,733
He also spent some
time in Paris.
565
00:28:04,767 --> 00:28:06,333
- [Thackeray] He visited
Europe frequently.
566
00:28:06,367 --> 00:28:08,100
It was known that he
was a great admirer
567
00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:09,967
of the Theatre du Grand Guignol.
568
00:28:11,133 --> 00:28:13,167
Many of his short
stories were adapted
569
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,433
for the Guignol's stage.
570
00:28:15,467 --> 00:28:17,867
But his choices with
regard to subject matter
571
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:22,067
clearly demonstrate a
passion for ancient history.
572
00:28:23,533 --> 00:28:26,133
Much of his writing centers
around primitive societies,
573
00:28:26,167 --> 00:28:27,300
sinister cults,
574
00:28:27,333 --> 00:28:30,100
arcane rituals, and so forth.
575
00:28:30,133 --> 00:28:32,233
It's rumored that Blake himself
576
00:28:32,267 --> 00:28:34,200
was involved in an obscure cult,
577
00:28:34,233 --> 00:28:38,233
and certain photographs
certainly bear this out.
578
00:28:38,267 --> 00:28:40,167
- [Peter] There are
photographs of him wearing
579
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,367
ceremonial garb and holding
a Middle Eastern dagger.
580
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:48,600
- [Narrator] It was during a
1922 interlude in Paris that
581
00:28:48,633 --> 00:28:52,500
Blake began writing his longest
and most notorious novel,
582
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:55,900
an extremely gruesome tale
entitled "Mortal Remains."
583
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,067
- It's an exceptionally
brutal tale,
584
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,233
even by Vernon
Blake's standards,
585
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,000
with elements of torture,
586
00:29:03,033 --> 00:29:04,833
ritual sacrifice,
587
00:29:04,867 --> 00:29:08,133
murder, grave robbing,
even cannibalism.
588
00:29:08,167 --> 00:29:10,467
One man is fed his own eyeballs.
589
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,967
Another has his
flesh peeled off.
590
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,300
One character is
drugged and then
591
00:29:15,333 --> 00:29:17,333
slowly cut into several pieces.
592
00:29:19,367 --> 00:29:22,167
- One of the more fascinating
elements about Vernon Blake is
593
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,367
that in some of his work he
was known to hide ciphers...
594
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,700
possible signals, possible
symbols, possible words
595
00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:33,933
for his readers to follow.
596
00:29:35,333 --> 00:29:36,867
- Thanks for coming in
again, I appreciate that.
597
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:38,500
Oh, you got a
haircut! Looks good.
598
00:29:38,533 --> 00:29:40,000
- [Peter] It was
time for a change.
599
00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:44,200
This is a cipher from Vernon
Blake's "Mortal Remains."
600
00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:47,167
This is actually a
substitution cipher.
601
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,533
Now this was actually one of
the easier ciphers to solve,
602
00:29:50,567 --> 00:29:54,733
because there are spaces in
between the cipher words.
603
00:29:56,367 --> 00:29:59,600
Also, when you have
something like this,
604
00:29:59,633 --> 00:30:02,433
a cipher letter by itself,
605
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:06,633
that's most often going to
be a letter like A or I,
606
00:30:07,933 --> 00:30:10,267
letters that can
stand on their own.
607
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:11,500
So this one for example,
608
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,400
if you follow the
key I have here,
609
00:30:13,433 --> 00:30:16,000
this one will read,
when it's finished,
610
00:30:16,033 --> 00:30:19,533
"Turn to page 40 for a reward."
611
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,400
If you jump to page
40, what you will find
612
00:30:24,433 --> 00:30:28,333
is actually another
set of ciphers lining
613
00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:30,600
the left hand side of the page.
614
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,733
Now, this one was
tricker because there are
615
00:30:34,767 --> 00:30:37,433
no spaces in between the words.
616
00:30:37,467 --> 00:30:39,200
- [Chris] The same
set of symbols?
617
00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:40,967
No, these are completely
different, aren't they?
618
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,667
- Well, Vernon Blake did that.
619
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,767
He often made cipher symbols
in different languages.
620
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,967
This particular cipher language,
he used the Enoch for it.
621
00:30:55,467 --> 00:30:57,433
See? If you look on
the title page of
622
00:30:57,467 --> 00:30:59,267
"Mortal Remains"
down at the bottom -
623
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:01,433
- a whole new set of ciphers.
624
00:31:03,033 --> 00:31:04,300
Right along here.
625
00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:05,567
- [Chris] A completely
different alphabet.
626
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,633
- Completely different alphabet.
627
00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:11,367
The translation
for the next cipher
628
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,400
reads, "Proceed to page
80 in my previous work."
629
00:31:16,567 --> 00:31:19,700
Now, this was a common
thing for Vernon Blake.
630
00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:22,033
He would leave
clues to other clues
631
00:31:22,067 --> 00:31:23,500
to other clues,
632
00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:26,500
and they were not
always in his books.
633
00:31:26,533 --> 00:31:28,067
Sometimes he would
give you directions to
634
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:30,667
go to a particular house,
635
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,867
and you might find the next
cipher underneath a table.
636
00:31:35,767 --> 00:31:36,700
Sometimes he might have a cipher
637
00:31:36,733 --> 00:31:36,967
carved into a tree in a park.
638
00:31:39,833 --> 00:31:43,600
He would leave a wide
variety of clues and
639
00:31:43,633 --> 00:31:45,533
directions as to where
to go next in order to
640
00:31:45,567 --> 00:31:49,733
solve the cipher mysteries
he was leaving in his works.
641
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,533
- [Chris] What
did these lead to?
642
00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:54,467
What did people
find? Other stories?
643
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,033
Treasure? What
would they unearth?
644
00:31:57,067 --> 00:32:00,733
- Well, the rewards
were not often tangible,
645
00:32:02,633 --> 00:32:06,233
and many of them
were not even found.
646
00:32:06,267 --> 00:32:07,800
You have to remember,
times change.
647
00:32:07,833 --> 00:32:09,467
Houses get torn down,
648
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,100
we have natural disasters...
649
00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:13,633
so you go back to his works,
650
00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:16,100
and try to find
perhaps another cipher
651
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:17,033
or another direction,
652
00:32:17,067 --> 00:32:19,967
or you had to let that one go.
653
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,067
- [Chris] Wow. So there
could even now be things that
654
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,533
he left buried somewhere
that nobody knows about?
655
00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:26,800
- There very well could be.
656
00:32:31,967 --> 00:32:34,733
- [Narrator] In 1969, Atticus
completed his first feature,
657
00:32:34,767 --> 00:32:37,933
"Culture Shock," a
violent film based upon an
658
00:32:37,967 --> 00:32:40,200
early Vernon Blake novella.
659
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,767
- [Ben] "Culture Shock"
kind of reminds me of
660
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,233
"Cannibal Holocaust,"
kind of a mondo cinema
661
00:32:51,933 --> 00:32:55,967
pseudo-documentary about
these jungle women who
662
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,633
basically go and murder
some people in the jungle.
663
00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:03,500
- [Chris] If you could find a
copy, that would be awesome.
664
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,167
- A copy that we would be able
to get would probably be a
665
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,200
bootleg or an Asian copy,
something like that...
666
00:33:10,167 --> 00:33:11,100
- [Chris] That's fine.
667
00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:13,867
- Again, it's possible.
668
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,733
We could ask one of
the collectors we know.
669
00:33:16,767 --> 00:33:20,100
I think it's not out of the
question that we could get one.
670
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:22,933
- [Chris] What stands out in
your mind about the shoot?
671
00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:24,667
- The special effects.
672
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:25,933
- [Chris] Really?
673
00:33:25,967 --> 00:33:27,367
- Yeah, there was
one scene where a
674
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,367
guy gets his hand chopped
off with a machete.
675
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,467
I've never seen
anything so realistic.
676
00:33:35,333 --> 00:33:37,500
- It made me queasy,
and I've been around
677
00:33:37,533 --> 00:33:41,200
zombies and all
that shit for years.
678
00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:43,867
- For the amount of money
that was in the film,
679
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,467
I couldn't understand
how they could afford an
680
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:47,200
effect like that,
681
00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:48,867
especially when I
had to chase the
682
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:50,600
guy around for my paycheck.
683
00:33:50,633 --> 00:33:53,533
- Usually, the lower the
budget, the cornier it looks,
684
00:33:53,567 --> 00:33:55,433
there's ketchup packets
squirting in the air.
685
00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:58,800
This... I was pretty
convinced that something had
686
00:33:58,833 --> 00:33:59,667
really happened there.
687
00:34:24,833 --> 00:34:25,667
[Thunder]
688
00:34:50,967 --> 00:34:53,067
- We should almost be there.
689
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,133
- Yeah, you said
that an hour ago.
690
00:34:57,733 --> 00:35:01,800
- Ramirez said it wouldn't
be that easy to find.
691
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,367
- Holy shit!
692
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:21,100
[flies buzzing]
693
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:29,467
[shouting]
694
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,633
[Grunting]
695
00:35:47,733 --> 00:35:48,567
[Whistles]
696
00:35:53,867 --> 00:35:54,933
- Wait!
697
00:35:54,967 --> 00:35:55,733
This all seems damned peculiar.
698
00:35:57,533 --> 00:35:59,533
[tribal calls]
699
00:36:05,633 --> 00:36:06,467
[glass shattering]
700
00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:17,700
Fuck!
701
00:36:18,967 --> 00:36:21,300
[fast drumbeat]
702
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,033
[crunch]
703
00:36:47,067 --> 00:36:48,300
[screams]
704
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,433
[crunch]
705
00:36:59,033 --> 00:36:59,767
[gurgling]
706
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,000
[snarl]
707
00:37:07,967 --> 00:37:10,500
- [Narrator] "Culture
Shock" attracted the
708
00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:12,267
scrutiny of Damien Long,
709
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,100
the eccentric New York-based
producer and impresario.
710
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,433
Long screened the film at
midnight for several months at
711
00:37:17,467 --> 00:37:18,633
his popular West Side
venue, the Omicron Theater.
712
00:37:18,667 --> 00:37:19,433
- It used to play up
and down the East coast
713
00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:19,967
at some midnight shows.
714
00:37:22,767 --> 00:37:24,200
I heard a story, I don't
know how true it is,
715
00:37:24,233 --> 00:37:25,833
that somebody got stabbed
at one of the movies,
716
00:37:33,733 --> 00:37:34,567
or there was people
getting attacked...
717
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:39,367
- Yes, there were
reports of problems,
718
00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:43,967
incidents involving
this guy's movies.
719
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,400
- [Chuck] They wound up closing
a couple of theaters down
720
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:47,267
because of that movie,
the riots were so bad.
721
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:52,033
- Two people were killed
actually while the
722
00:37:52,067 --> 00:37:54,467
film was running in the theater.
723
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,500
It wasn't a full house but
there was enough people there...
724
00:37:57,533 --> 00:38:01,133
I never figured out how these
people had their lives taken
725
00:38:01,167 --> 00:38:03,067
violently in the
theater with people
726
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,067
sitting all around them.
727
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,200
No one saw a thing. The bodies
weren't discovered until the
728
00:38:07,233 --> 00:38:10,467
lights went up after
the film was over.
729
00:38:12,867 --> 00:38:14,700
The man who was
murdered was stabbed
730
00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:16,567
at the base of the skull,
731
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,033
and the woman had
her throat slit.
732
00:38:19,067 --> 00:38:23,233
Also, as I recall, there were
pieces of the bodies taken...
733
00:38:24,733 --> 00:38:28,900
and that's the part I had
a hard time swallowing.
734
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:32,233
If you're gonna kill
somebody, kill them.
735
00:38:32,267 --> 00:38:34,933
But this business
of mutilation...
736
00:38:36,133 --> 00:38:38,667
There was something
more going on here.
737
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:42,867
There seemed to be some
connection between this director
738
00:38:44,267 --> 00:38:48,067
and the material he was
making, the screening of it,
739
00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:52,233
and bad stuff going down.
740
00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:56,533
And I think that ties into
what I found out later,
741
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:59,000
that he was into black magic,
this Lovecraft stuff...
742
00:39:03,933 --> 00:39:05,967
That messes with your head.
743
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,133
And the movies he was making
744
00:39:07,167 --> 00:39:08,167
was messing with
other people's heads.
745
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,033
The same thing
apparently happened in
746
00:39:11,067 --> 00:39:13,400
some other theaters
showing his movies.
747
00:39:13,433 --> 00:39:15,600
So there was really
something going on with this
748
00:39:15,633 --> 00:39:17,133
guy and his films.
749
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,933
- Mark, hey, it's me.
Call me back, all right?
750
00:39:23,967 --> 00:39:25,867
I gotta show you something,
you've got to see
751
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:26,933
what's on this video.
752
00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:28,033
Call me! Bye.
753
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,167
- [Mark on video] Quick,
just keep looking, all right?
754
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:48,667
- [Chris] Okay, now watch.
755
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,500
[Mark screaming on video]
756
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:52,133
- Go back, go back.
757
00:39:58,467 --> 00:39:59,800
Stop! Play it back.
758
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,033
Freeze.
759
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,600
What the hell is
that guy wearing?
760
00:40:04,633 --> 00:40:06,167
- He's wearing a cloak.
761
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,400
That's what I
wanted to show you,
762
00:40:07,433 --> 00:40:08,533
this guy is wearing
some kind of an outfit,
763
00:40:08,567 --> 00:40:10,800
some kind of a getup.
764
00:40:10,833 --> 00:40:12,100
- [Mark] Nobody gets
dressed up like that and
765
00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:14,100
attacks somebody unless
they've got a reason.
766
00:40:14,133 --> 00:40:15,500
- [Chris] Obviously! That's
my point, that's what
767
00:40:15,533 --> 00:40:16,933
I wanted to show you.
768
00:40:16,967 --> 00:40:17,867
- [Mark] That's every
reason to stop this project.
769
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,100
- [Chris] Are you kidding?
770
00:40:19,133 --> 00:40:20,533
- [Mark] Go back to the
"Blair Witch" project.
771
00:40:20,567 --> 00:40:21,333
I don't care what Ed
says about what producers
772
00:40:21,367 --> 00:40:21,733
he says are interested--
773
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,333
- [Chris] The "Blair Witch"
thing is definitely--
774
00:40:24,367 --> 00:40:25,600
- [Mark] You didn't
get your ass kicked!
775
00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:26,800
You try getting your
ass kicked and then
776
00:40:26,833 --> 00:40:28,033
decide whether you want
to go back to this.
777
00:40:28,067 --> 00:40:29,933
No, I absolutely refuse--
778
00:40:29,967 --> 00:40:31,200
- [Chris] We've uncovered
some big mystery here--
779
00:40:31,233 --> 00:40:32,300
- [Mark] I don't even
want to talk about this
780
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,267
project any more.
781
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:34,300
- [Chris] You wanna drop this?
782
00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:35,600
- [Mark] Yeah, I
wanna drop this!
783
00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:37,133
Because I'm not gonna go
back into that situation
784
00:40:37,167 --> 00:40:40,067
and get my ass kicked again,
in a cemetery or anywhere.
785
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:41,533
- [Chris] We'll go back
and kick this kid's ass!
786
00:40:41,567 --> 00:40:41,767
I'll tell you what, why don't
you two go kick his ass?
787
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:47,033
If it's not "Blair
Witch" I'm out.
788
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,033
- [Chris] "Blair Witch"
is done, it's over--
789
00:40:50,067 --> 00:40:52,500
- So you're telling me
you're not going to do
790
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:53,467
the "Blair Witch" project?
791
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:54,867
- [Chris] Not at all, no.
792
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:55,600
- You're gonna do this
whether or not I'm in or out?
793
00:40:55,633 --> 00:40:57,033
- [Chris] Yeah!
794
00:40:57,067 --> 00:40:59,067
- Then fine, you guys can
do it yourselves. I'm done.
795
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,367
- [Chris] Come on, man!
796
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,833
- [Mark] I'm done.
I'm not gonna do it.
797
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,700
[Chris sighs]
798
00:41:05,733 --> 00:41:08,967
- [Chris] That's not
quite what I had in mind.
799
00:41:16,333 --> 00:41:17,367
- [Narrator] Impressed
by the young filmmaker's
800
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,300
dedication and singular vision,
801
00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:23,500
Damien Long agreed to fund
Atticus's next feature project,
802
00:41:24,867 --> 00:41:27,767
a faithful adaptation of Vernon
Blake's "Mortal Remains."
803
00:41:30,167 --> 00:41:34,333
- He decided that he wanted
to shoot it in Louisiana.
804
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,300
He wanted this Creole vibe
that went with the whole story.
805
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,833
- A lot of strange shit
happened on that movie too.
806
00:41:46,867 --> 00:41:48,367
- [Chris] What happened there?
807
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,767
- Something happened either
between Karl and the law,
808
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,700
or Karl and the locals,
809
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,767
but for some reason it
was like, Okay, we're
810
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,133
packing up and
we're leaving town.
811
00:42:01,167 --> 00:42:04,800
So he said we'll go
back and finish it at
812
00:42:04,833 --> 00:42:07,200
my place in Maryland.
813
00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:08,300
- We were shooting a
lot at his property,
814
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:10,067
at Atticus's property,
815
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:13,133
and he had some kind of a
South American cameraman
816
00:42:13,167 --> 00:42:16,533
Carlos Bene-- something,
817
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:18,133
I can't remember his last name.
818
00:42:18,167 --> 00:42:20,233
This guy was really strange.
819
00:42:20,267 --> 00:42:22,167
He was right up
there with Atticus,
820
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,067
he was like his twin brother.
821
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,967
They were into some weird
shit, it seemed like,
822
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,167
the two of them.
823
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,533
- Seemed like he was
just a squirrely guy,
824
00:42:32,567 --> 00:42:34,700
didn't seem like
you could trust him.
825
00:42:34,733 --> 00:42:36,400
I didn't trust him.
826
00:42:36,433 --> 00:42:37,567
- He was a very strange guy, and
827
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,100
he had a lot of
really weird demands,
828
00:42:41,633 --> 00:42:45,633
he would ask for strange
stuff on the set--
829
00:42:47,167 --> 00:42:49,767
- [Chris] How do you mean?
830
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,600
- We would find the location,
831
00:42:50,633 --> 00:42:51,467
set it up, light it,
832
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,633
and then everyone would
have to leave the set,
833
00:42:57,667 --> 00:43:01,500
except Karl and the
cameraman and the actors.
834
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:05,800
- We would have to leave
835
00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:07,800
and we weren't allowed to come
back till the next morning,
836
00:43:07,833 --> 00:43:11,100
which didn't make any sense to
me, I didn't understand that.
837
00:43:11,133 --> 00:43:15,300
- But then, the next day
the actors never came back.
838
00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:18,300
So it was like Gee,
839
00:43:18,333 --> 00:43:22,500
I guess we're doing this all
in one take, or one night...
840
00:43:23,367 --> 00:43:25,233
- Every time. Set up, leave.
841
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,533
You know, all the years
I've been doing it,
842
00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:31,400
it's the first time
that ever happened.
843
00:43:31,433 --> 00:43:35,500
- I never knew why the
actors never came back...
844
00:43:35,533 --> 00:43:37,700
and I wasn't about to ask,
845
00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:41,767
because I thought then
I might not come back.
846
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,800
So, it sort of scared me.
847
00:44:10,333 --> 00:44:12,900
There were lots of
rumors about Karl and
848
00:44:12,933 --> 00:44:16,500
his methods for making
movies and stuff.
849
00:44:16,533 --> 00:44:20,700
At one point this big
rumor started that Karl was
850
00:44:21,567 --> 00:44:23,333
using dead bodies in his films.
851
00:44:23,367 --> 00:44:24,967
- I heard about it.
852
00:44:26,867 --> 00:44:30,267
I worked with him in the
daytime, not at night.
853
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:34,067
- The whole situation
was completely bizarre.
854
00:44:35,267 --> 00:44:36,467
- [Mark] Ed mentioned
that this guy was using
855
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:39,767
dead bodies in his
movies, is that true?
856
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,233
- Yeah, it was actually
worse than that.
857
00:44:42,267 --> 00:44:45,467
- Right after that
whole rumor about using
858
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,933
cadavers and stuff in
his films came out,
859
00:44:50,067 --> 00:44:52,800
then there was a
series of crimes of
860
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,500
vandalism in cemeteries.
861
00:44:57,533 --> 00:44:59,200
- There was some incident of
862
00:44:59,233 --> 00:45:01,400
cemetery vandalism or something?
863
00:45:01,433 --> 00:45:03,500
- There were rumors about it,
864
00:45:03,533 --> 00:45:05,700
rumors around the set,
865
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:07,700
but nothing that I
knew for certain, no.
866
00:45:07,733 --> 00:45:09,700
Wouldn't surprise me, though.
867
00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:11,333
- Something about
cemeteries, or...
868
00:45:11,367 --> 00:45:15,033
- He was accused of doing
some grave robbing and stuff.
869
00:45:17,367 --> 00:45:21,200
We couldn't prove it,
so he was never charged.
870
00:45:23,833 --> 00:45:28,000
- Everyone just sort
of looked toward Karl,
871
00:45:28,867 --> 00:45:31,267
you know? The usual suspects.
872
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:32,567
- Really disturbing guy,
873
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,567
it's like bad stuff
followed him around,
874
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,833
bad people, bad everything.
875
00:45:38,867 --> 00:45:39,967
[Chris] Creeped you
out a little bit?
876
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,867
Yeah, creeped me out a lot.
877
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,800
- We'd go to the movies
together when we were just kids,
878
00:45:44,833 --> 00:45:46,100
and he always wanted to,
879
00:45:46,133 --> 00:45:47,567
I would say let's
go see a western,
880
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,100
no, no, no, let's go see
this latest horror film,
881
00:45:51,133 --> 00:45:52,633
and we'd go to that,
882
00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:54,633
and the strange thing was I
was just a kid at the time,
883
00:45:54,667 --> 00:45:57,300
I'd be freaked out and scared,
884
00:45:57,333 --> 00:46:00,100
and he was laughing
the whole way through.
885
00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:02,900
[manic laughter]
886
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:07,733
- Scream!
887
00:46:15,367 --> 00:46:16,167
- A lot of strange
people in the '60s
888
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,667
and he was one of them.
889
00:46:28,833 --> 00:46:31,233
- These people used
to come around,
890
00:46:31,267 --> 00:46:32,100
they were,
891
00:46:33,267 --> 00:46:35,100
I don't know how
to describe them,
892
00:46:35,133 --> 00:46:36,933
they were just very
strange people.
893
00:46:36,967 --> 00:46:40,333
They didn't help on
the crew or anything,
894
00:46:40,367 --> 00:46:43,467
but these people
would just sit around
895
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,833
on the sets and sit
in the background,
896
00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:50,233
sit in the corner and watch us,
897
00:46:50,267 --> 00:46:52,567
and I always thought
that was very weird.
898
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,633
- He started associating with
different kinds of people,
899
00:47:00,267 --> 00:47:04,433
I don't want to say strange,
but...unusual characters.
900
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:14,033
- Because any time you were
involved too closely with Karl,
901
00:47:14,067 --> 00:47:16,900
or any people that he knew,
902
00:47:16,933 --> 00:47:20,833
you never knew what was
going to happen next.
903
00:47:28,467 --> 00:47:30,267
- [Narrator] The premiere
screening was interrupted by
904
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:32,467
violence when several
members of the audience,
905
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:35,833
shocked and enraged by the
film's horrific content
906
00:47:35,867 --> 00:47:40,033
stormed the projection booth
and demolished the 35mm print.
907
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,233
- They decided they were going
to have this big premiere,
908
00:47:46,267 --> 00:47:48,267
and I didn't go.
909
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:49,500
- [Chris] Did you go to that?
910
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:52,133
- Oh, hell no. I wanted
nothing to do with it.
911
00:47:52,167 --> 00:47:54,967
- Everything about Karl,
the movie, everything,
912
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,267
was just a little too
strange for me, but...
913
00:48:00,667 --> 00:48:04,200
During the movie,
914
00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:06,267
a riot broke out.
915
00:48:07,367 --> 00:48:09,000
[shouting and
screaming from crowd]
916
00:48:10,167 --> 00:48:10,867
- A riot has erupted at
the Patterson theater
917
00:48:12,167 --> 00:48:14,500
during a midnight
screening of a horror film.
918
00:48:14,533 --> 00:48:17,433
- They're going crazy in there!
919
00:48:19,167 --> 00:48:21,433
- That movie is sick! It's sick!
920
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,667
[shouting and screaming]
921
00:48:26,033 --> 00:48:26,867
- I'm out of here!
922
00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:30,500
[glass breaking]
923
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,667
- Hey, get that
out of here! Now!
924
00:48:45,533 --> 00:48:48,433
- It takes a strong stomach
just to get through the book,
925
00:48:48,467 --> 00:48:52,100
so I find it rather astonishing
that this Atticus fellow
926
00:48:52,133 --> 00:48:54,733
feels it's suitable
meat for a movie.
927
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,400
- Again, extremely
violent and graphic.
928
00:48:59,433 --> 00:49:00,733
Extremely graphic.
929
00:49:00,767 --> 00:49:04,100
In fact, that's part
of its mythology.
930
00:49:05,567 --> 00:49:08,400
- [Chris] So "Mortal Remains"
was never seen, right?
931
00:49:08,433 --> 00:49:09,267
That was it?
932
00:49:10,467 --> 00:49:13,600
- It was never shown
all the way through.
933
00:49:13,633 --> 00:49:16,033
They destroyed it at the theater
934
00:49:16,067 --> 00:49:17,600
the first time it was shown.
935
00:49:18,767 --> 00:49:20,200
- [Mark] But the
film was shown...
936
00:49:20,233 --> 00:49:21,367
- The film was shown, but
it was shown one time.
937
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,800
That was it.
938
00:49:22,833 --> 00:49:26,467
I've never heard of any prints
of it being distributed,
939
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:30,367
I think the last--
from what I understand,
940
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,900
either the film disappeared
or was destroyed.
941
00:49:33,933 --> 00:49:35,233
- I just gotta say good luck,
942
00:49:35,267 --> 00:49:37,100
because I don't
think anybody's--
943
00:49:37,133 --> 00:49:41,300
I never heard of anyone
seeing any kind of copy.
944
00:49:42,467 --> 00:49:45,433
I think one gentleman
who came in said he
945
00:49:45,467 --> 00:49:48,833
had heard of a bit or
a clip or something,
946
00:49:48,867 --> 00:49:50,067
like a little
piece of the film--
947
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:51,433
- [Chris] Bits and
pieces of it, yeah.
948
00:49:51,467 --> 00:49:55,067
- Let's just say if
you were actually to
949
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,000
have a full copy of it,
950
00:49:57,033 --> 00:49:59,933
that would be like the
complete "Metropolis."
951
00:49:59,967 --> 00:50:03,500
- [Chris] There might be
other prints out there...?
952
00:50:03,533 --> 00:50:07,500
- There might be. Knowing
Karl, anything's possible.
953
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,267
- Mark, listen, it's me.
954
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,467
Seriously, call me back.
955
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,467
I just had a phone call from
one of Ed's producer friends,
956
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:19,000
and there is some real
money coming our way
957
00:50:19,033 --> 00:50:20,200
if we finish this thing.
958
00:50:20,233 --> 00:50:23,867
If you want back
in, now is the time.
959
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:25,600
So really, call me
back, all right?
960
00:50:25,633 --> 00:50:27,400
This is no joke. Bye.
961
00:50:29,967 --> 00:50:31,833
That might get him on the horn.
962
00:50:31,867 --> 00:50:33,467
- [Josh] Maybe,
I don't know man.
963
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,433
he looked pretty mad last time.
964
00:50:35,467 --> 00:50:39,533
- All right, guess who
just called me back?
965
00:50:39,567 --> 00:50:42,200
- [Mark] Hey Chris, it's
Mark, I just got your message.
966
00:50:42,233 --> 00:50:44,667
How come you're not picking up?
967
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:46,367
Listen, if something's
going down,
968
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,100
I want to know about it,
969
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:50,367
especially if there's
money involved.
970
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,867
I got medical bills
I gotta pay, man.
971
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:56,067
So call me back and
let me know when we can
972
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,433
get together to talk
about this, all right?
973
00:50:58,467 --> 00:51:00,867
I'll talk to you
then, man. Ciao.
974
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000
- Well, that didn't take long.
975
00:51:05,033 --> 00:51:07,767
Told you he was gonna call back.
976
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:10,867
[laughs]
977
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:12,933
Come on, come on in.
978
00:51:12,967 --> 00:51:13,767
- What's up, man?
979
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,733
- Go get him, Millie.
980
00:51:15,767 --> 00:51:16,767
There's Uncle Marky.
981
00:51:17,867 --> 00:51:19,700
- How are you doing, man?
982
00:51:19,733 --> 00:51:21,467
- You feel better?
983
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:22,900
- Yeah, much better.
984
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:24,000
- You look like a million bucks.
985
00:51:24,033 --> 00:51:24,833
- Thank you.
986
00:51:24,867 --> 00:51:25,767
- There's Josh.
987
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,967
- Hey Josh, how you doing?
988
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,933
Hey sweetie, what's up?
989
00:51:28,967 --> 00:51:32,033
So tell me about this
phone call you had.
990
00:51:32,067 --> 00:51:33,567
They're talking money?
991
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,267
- This guy suggested that
there was a big payday at
992
00:51:38,033 --> 00:51:39,267
the end of this thing.
993
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:40,233
He said there was a
lot of money involved.
994
00:51:40,267 --> 00:51:41,533
He didn't mention a number,
995
00:51:41,567 --> 00:51:42,633
but he said there
is "potential for
996
00:51:42,667 --> 00:51:45,100
serious remuneration," he said.
997
00:51:47,067 --> 00:51:48,267
- What's your next step?
998
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,433
- My next step is to
jump in with both feet.
999
00:51:51,467 --> 00:51:53,600
Start contacting people
who were working in the
1000
00:51:53,633 --> 00:51:56,867
area when Atticus
was alive and active.
1001
00:51:56,900 --> 00:51:58,333
- Like who?
1002
00:51:58,367 --> 00:52:00,567
- John Waters was making
movies in Baltimore in 1972.
1003
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,800
- He wasn't a
horror filmmaker...
1004
00:52:01,833 --> 00:52:03,333
- Doesn't matter.
He was buying stock,
1005
00:52:03,367 --> 00:52:04,867
he was having film processed,
1006
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:06,733
I'm sure he want to a
lot of the same places.
1007
00:52:06,767 --> 00:52:08,200
- Do you know how
to get hold of him?
1008
00:52:08,233 --> 00:52:09,600
- I've got the number for
his office, Dreamland.
1009
00:52:09,633 --> 00:52:11,067
We'll give him a call right now.
1010
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:12,267
- Yeah, that sounds awesome.
1011
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:13,500
- I've got a lot of
stuff to show you, man,
1012
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:15,033
I've got articles and
clippings, photographs,
1013
00:52:15,067 --> 00:52:16,467
a bunch of stuff.
1014
00:52:19,133 --> 00:52:21,500
- I just wanted to ask a
couple of quick questions.
1015
00:52:21,533 --> 00:52:22,333
We're doing a documentary.
1016
00:52:22,367 --> 00:52:23,333
- John?
1017
00:52:25,433 --> 00:52:26,600
- [John Waters] Yeah?
1018
00:52:28,067 --> 00:52:29,900
- There's a couple of guys
here want to talk to you.
1019
00:52:29,933 --> 00:52:32,767
- Hey, Mister Waters!
Hi. My name is Mark,
1020
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,967
I'm a documentary filmmaker,
1021
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,467
and I just wanted to
ask you a couple of
1022
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:38,133
quick questions about a
guy who was making movies
1023
00:52:38,167 --> 00:52:39,767
about 30 years ago in Baltimore,
1024
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,967
his name was Karl Atticus--
1025
00:52:43,433 --> 00:52:46,967
- [John] Susan, can you
pick up the phone, please?
1026
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,533
- Yeah...
1027
00:52:48,567 --> 00:52:50,067
Turn off the camera, please.
1028
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,033
- Hey, just a couple of quick
questions, for God's sake--
1029
00:52:51,067 --> 00:52:52,600
Forget it, you know what--
1030
00:52:52,633 --> 00:52:54,433
Hey, Mister Waters--
1031
00:52:54,467 --> 00:52:56,867
No! Hey, hey, hey, hey!
1032
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:58,100
Come on, man! I
just wanna ask you a
1033
00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,900
couple of quick questions!
1034
00:52:59,933 --> 00:53:04,067
What's the big deal?
What is the big deal?
1035
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:05,700
- Please, just go!
Just get out of here!
1036
00:53:05,733 --> 00:53:07,733
Just leave now, get out!
1037
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,433
- [Mark] I'm going!
1038
00:53:10,467 --> 00:53:11,900
- [Chris] Jesus Christ, what
the hell are you thinking, man?
1039
00:53:11,933 --> 00:53:14,333
You chase the guy down a
hallway and pound on his door?
1040
00:53:14,367 --> 00:53:15,667
- I'm sorry, all right?
1041
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:16,800
- He could call the police,
1042
00:53:16,833 --> 00:53:18,300
he could make trouble for us!
1043
00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,767
- He's not gonna
make any trouble.
1044
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,700
Look, I'm sorry, but don't
yell at me because he
1045
00:53:20,733 --> 00:53:21,933
won't answer your questions.
1046
00:53:21,967 --> 00:53:23,533
- It's not a matter of
answering questions,
1047
00:53:23,567 --> 00:53:25,567
you chased the
guy down the hall!
1048
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,000
You're getting carried away.
1049
00:53:27,033 --> 00:53:28,500
Are you trying to
screw up this project?
1050
00:53:28,533 --> 00:53:29,733
Are you trying to sabotage us?
1051
00:53:29,767 --> 00:53:30,967
- I'm not trying to
sabotage anything!
1052
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,767
Don't even accuse
me of that, man!
1053
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,033
- Well, we could have found
out some useful information if
1054
00:53:34,067 --> 00:53:35,367
we'd approached him correctly.
1055
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,967
- What are you talking
about, approaching him?
1056
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,200
He slammed the door
in my face before I
1057
00:53:38,233 --> 00:53:39,333
even got back to him.
1058
00:53:39,367 --> 00:53:40,800
[cell phone ringing]
1059
00:53:40,833 --> 00:53:42,667
- [Chris] I don't know man,
you're screaming, freaking out--
1060
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:43,767
- Hello?
1061
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:44,900
Hello!
1062
00:53:44,933 --> 00:53:46,100
Fucking A, man.
1063
00:53:47,333 --> 00:53:48,233
- [Chris] Who is it?
1064
00:53:48,267 --> 00:53:49,867
- Third time they called today.
1065
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:53,400
They hang up every
time I fucking pick up.
1066
00:53:57,133 --> 00:53:58,867
- [Chris] Here he is.
1067
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:01,233
Hi Roland.
1068
00:54:01,267 --> 00:54:02,467
- [Mark] Hey, Roland.
1069
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:03,800
- [Chris] We'd just
like to ask a few more
1070
00:54:03,833 --> 00:54:05,300
question about Karl if we could.
1071
00:54:05,333 --> 00:54:07,733
- I've had some strange
phone calls so you'll
1072
00:54:07,767 --> 00:54:08,933
have to excuse me.
1073
00:54:08,967 --> 00:54:10,233
I'm not in the mood
for talking now.
1074
00:54:10,267 --> 00:54:11,633
- [Chris] Strange phone calls?
1075
00:54:11,667 --> 00:54:14,400
- That's all right.
That's enough. Goodbye,
1076
00:54:14,433 --> 00:54:16,500
take care of yourself.
1077
00:54:16,533 --> 00:54:17,933
- [Chris] Thanks.
1078
00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:21,900
- Are you the guys
who've been calling me?
1079
00:54:21,933 --> 00:54:24,767
The phone calls have got to
stop and they gotta stop now!
1080
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Get off my property
or I call the cops!
1081
00:54:27,033 --> 00:54:28,400
- Hey, listen, we have
not called-- We haven't
1082
00:54:28,433 --> 00:54:29,900
made any phone calls, man!
1083
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:31,633
All we want to do is ask you
a couple of quick questions--
1084
00:54:31,667 --> 00:54:33,133
Would you please just--
1085
00:54:33,167 --> 00:54:35,667
- No, bloody hell no.
1086
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,000
This has gone too far. I'm
getting fucking phone calls now.
1087
00:54:39,033 --> 00:54:41,700
Enough is enough,
this has to stop.
1088
00:54:41,733 --> 00:54:45,233
- [Mark] Hey, hey, hey, man!
What the fuck? Knock again.
1089
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,400
- [Chris] The American
Film Institute denied my
1090
00:54:48,433 --> 00:54:49,833
request for an interview,
1091
00:54:49,867 --> 00:54:51,567
but I did receive an
anonymous call from one of
1092
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,500
their staff members.
1093
00:54:53,533 --> 00:54:54,567
[Man on phone] The only
reason I'm talking to
1094
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:55,967
you is to warn you.
1095
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,000
A lot of people in
Hollywood don't want this
1096
00:54:58,033 --> 00:54:58,800
story to come out,
1097
00:54:58,833 --> 00:55:00,100
ever.
1098
00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:01,333
A lot of people who
saw Karl's movies when
1099
00:55:01,367 --> 00:55:02,567
they came out in the '70s,
1100
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,200
let's just say they
"borrowed" from them.
1101
00:55:05,233 --> 00:55:08,700
They made their reputations
on things Karl came up with.
1102
00:55:08,733 --> 00:55:10,100
They're powerful people,
1103
00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:11,200
they're connected people,
and they will make
1104
00:55:11,233 --> 00:55:13,433
life miserable for you.
1105
00:55:13,467 --> 00:55:15,600
I've seen how they can do it.
1106
00:55:15,633 --> 00:55:17,700
You guys need to drop this.
1107
00:55:17,733 --> 00:55:21,067
There's a good reason
that Karl is dead.
1108
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:26,567
- [Chris] What happened
to Karl? He just kind of--
1109
00:55:27,767 --> 00:55:30,533
- He sort of dropped
out of the picture.
1110
00:55:32,033 --> 00:55:35,633
No one had seen or heard
from him for a while, and
1111
00:55:35,667 --> 00:55:39,500
then I heard that he was
down at his place, at
1112
00:55:41,467 --> 00:55:45,133
his old house and he
went out in the woods,
1113
00:55:46,333 --> 00:55:48,900
took a shotgun and
blew his head off.
1114
00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:51,933
- [Chris] He died like
around '73 I think. '73?
1115
00:55:51,967 --> 00:55:55,100
- Yeah, I read that
he killed himself.
1116
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,200
Might give you some
insight on his character.
1117
00:55:59,233 --> 00:56:02,400
- Good riddance, I'm glad
he's off this planet.
1118
00:56:02,433 --> 00:56:05,700
I feel a lot safer
with him not around.
1119
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,267
- I don't think
anybody liked the guy.
1120
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:13,233
He's probably rotting in
hell where he belongs.
1121
00:56:17,133 --> 00:56:18,767
- [Narrator] Today, in
this shady grove near
1122
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,200
Jessup, Maryland,
1123
00:56:20,233 --> 00:56:23,333
a local sportsman made
a gruesome discovery.
1124
00:56:23,367 --> 00:56:26,367
Andrew Gresh was enjoying an
afternoon of squirrel hunting
1125
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,933
when he spotted a human
hand protruding from
1126
00:56:28,967 --> 00:56:30,300
the undergrowth.
1127
00:56:31,167 --> 00:56:32,700
- I was about to light my pipe,
1128
00:56:32,733 --> 00:56:35,467
blew out the match and
went to toss it away,
1129
00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:37,833
when I saw a hand sticking
out of the bushes.
1130
00:56:37,867 --> 00:56:40,733
It was the most horrible
thing I've seen in my life.
1131
00:56:40,767 --> 00:56:42,567
- [Narrator] Though the
condition of the body precludes
1132
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,733
any immediate identification,
1133
00:56:44,767 --> 00:56:47,833
there's some speculation
that the body may be that of
1134
00:56:47,867 --> 00:56:51,200
local filmmaker Karl
Atticus, who was reported
1135
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:55,333
missing six weeks ago amid
wild rumors of occult activity.
1136
00:56:56,733 --> 00:56:59,100
- Well, we found a body that
had been in the woods for an
1137
00:56:59,133 --> 00:57:01,300
extensive amount of time. There
was an extensive amount of
1138
00:57:01,333 --> 00:57:03,633
decomposition and we'll
have to determine later
1139
00:57:03,667 --> 00:57:05,267
exactly how long and
exactly what happened,
1140
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:07,733
but at this time
we're considering
this to be a suicide.
1141
00:57:07,767 --> 00:57:09,700
A weapon was located near
the body that was capable of
1142
00:57:09,733 --> 00:57:12,933
producing the type of
trauma that was displayed.
1143
00:57:12,967 --> 00:57:15,567
- [Narrator] While it is
known that some unusual
1144
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,600
discoveries were made by
federal investigators at
1145
00:57:17,633 --> 00:57:19,800
his Loch Raven residence,
1146
00:57:19,833 --> 00:57:21,633
no details have yet
been made public
1147
00:57:21,667 --> 00:57:23,767
regarding those discoveries.
1148
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,400
- Supposedly it was him.
1149
00:57:31,267 --> 00:57:33,267
The reason why we definitely
couldn't say it was him
1150
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,200
is that his head was blown off.
1151
00:57:37,367 --> 00:57:39,333
They found a shotgun
nearby, but it wasn't
1152
00:57:39,367 --> 00:57:43,467
close enough where he
could have done it himself.
1153
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:48,633
- What I heard was that the
only way they could identify his
1154
00:57:48,667 --> 00:57:52,833
body was by that
strange tattoo he had.
1155
00:57:54,233 --> 00:57:56,333
I wanted to ask him about
it, but I was afraid.
1156
00:57:56,367 --> 00:58:00,533
I didn't know what it
signified or what it meant,
1157
00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:03,033
so I'd just check it
out once in a while
1158
00:58:03,067 --> 00:58:04,967
when he wasn't looking.
1159
00:58:07,567 --> 00:58:11,167
Now, this is weird, because
the people who used to
1160
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,300
come and hang
around on the set...
1161
00:58:14,333 --> 00:58:18,500
one of those guys, he had
the same tattoo as Karl,
1162
00:58:20,167 --> 00:58:21,933
and I thought, "Well,
that's very strange,"
1163
00:58:21,967 --> 00:58:25,767
because it was a really
weird, unique tattoo.
1164
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,967
I just thought-- I didn't
know if it was a club,
1165
00:58:33,433 --> 00:58:37,400
or I couldn't figure
out why two guys would
1166
00:58:37,433 --> 00:58:39,367
have the same exact tattoo.
1167
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,700
- Who knows, with him?
He could do anything.
1168
00:58:41,733 --> 00:58:44,867
I wouldn't put it past him
to stage his own death.
1169
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,967
- It concerned our department,
1170
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,833
so we started looking into it.
1171
00:58:49,867 --> 00:58:52,867
- We all knew Karl, and we
knew how strange he was,
1172
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:56,933
so anything that happened
was not beyond the realm of
1173
00:58:58,133 --> 00:59:01,867
belief. Anything was
possible with Karl.
1174
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:03,367
- [Chris] There was rumors
that he was in a cult,
1175
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,233
did you find any
evidence of that?
1176
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:09,200
- Well, um...
1177
00:59:11,067 --> 00:59:13,800
- You know, your
imagination makes you crazy,
1178
00:59:13,833 --> 00:59:16,300
so I was imagining
all kinds of things,
1179
00:59:16,333 --> 00:59:18,533
and I think everyone was.
1180
00:59:18,567 --> 00:59:22,067
Because Karl was just
that kind of guy.
1181
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:25,433
- We got a warrant
to go into his house.
1182
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:28,700
What we found in that house
1183
00:59:31,133 --> 00:59:33,933
was pretty disturbing.
1184
00:59:33,967 --> 00:59:37,067
Really strange,
really bone chilling.
1185
00:59:40,633 --> 00:59:42,633
How do I say this?
1186
00:59:42,667 --> 00:59:46,833
He had a collection that
no human should ever have.
1187
00:59:49,567 --> 00:59:51,367
I don't wanna get
into the details,
1188
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,500
because it scares
the shit out of me.
1189
00:59:58,033 --> 01:00:02,067
It was so crazy that the FBI
came in and took over the
1190
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:05,233
investigation and threw us out.
1191
01:00:05,267 --> 01:00:06,667
I was happy about that,
1192
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:09,467
because what I saw--
It creeped me out,
1193
01:00:11,667 --> 01:00:14,367
knowing that he might
still be out there.
1194
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,200
- [Chris] What do you think?
1195
01:00:16,233 --> 01:00:17,267
Do you think it
was him they found?
1196
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:18,533
- I don't think so.
1197
01:00:18,567 --> 01:00:21,233
There's things that
just don't add up.
1198
01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:24,333
The tattoo, where they
found the weapon...
1199
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:31,033
- [Chris] What if he
is still out there?
1200
01:00:35,067 --> 01:00:38,200
All right, well, it's
not over here either.
1201
01:00:38,233 --> 01:00:40,500
We've pretty much
exhausted all the main
1202
01:00:40,533 --> 01:00:43,033
branches of the cemetery here.
1203
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,267
The caretaker did say he thought
it was in this direction,
1204
01:00:50,433 --> 01:00:51,367
but-- I don't know,
this is pretty much the
1205
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,200
end of the road over here.
1206
01:00:52,233 --> 01:00:53,233
Looks like it, anyway.
1207
01:00:53,267 --> 01:00:55,033
- [Josh] Are you sure?
1208
01:00:56,667 --> 01:00:58,600
What about down there?
1209
01:00:58,633 --> 01:01:00,167
- [Chris] No, Mark and
I have already checked
1210
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,333
out stuff down there,
1211
01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:06,533
unless...maybe past that,
if that's another old wing--
1212
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,033
- Hey!
1213
01:01:09,067 --> 01:01:11,933
- Oh shit, it's that
cemetery guy again.
1214
01:01:11,967 --> 01:01:14,200
- [Josh] What cemetery guy?
1215
01:01:15,867 --> 01:01:17,733
- [Mark] So is Josh
not coming at all?
1216
01:01:17,767 --> 01:01:21,833
- [Chris] No, not
tonight. Just me and you.
1217
01:01:21,867 --> 01:01:23,067
Is that working or what?
1218
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:24,567
- [Mark] I mean,
it's functional...
1219
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,100
I can record with it, if
that's what you're asking.
1220
01:01:27,133 --> 01:01:30,167
It's just-- he's got it locked
on some sort of user setting,
1221
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,433
so I can't figure out. I'm
not going to be able to
1222
01:01:33,467 --> 01:01:35,533
get into it until he gives
me whatever code he's set.
1223
01:01:35,567 --> 01:01:37,900
It's like it's-- I don't know.
1224
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:40,367
- [Chris] But it's in focus?
1225
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,833
- [Mark] Yes, it'll work.
1226
01:01:41,867 --> 01:01:43,067
- [Chris] You can
shoot with the thing?
1227
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,100
- [Mark] Yes, I can film
and I can record, if
1228
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:45,367
that's what you're asking.
1229
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,633
When is this guy
supposed to call?
1230
01:01:46,667 --> 01:01:48,433
- [Chris] Any time. He
didn't say when, he just
1231
01:01:48,467 --> 01:01:50,767
said, "I'll call tonight."
1232
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,667
- [Mark] You film it,
I gotta take a leak.
1233
01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:55,833
- [Chris] Jesus, hold on, I'm
getting a piece of paper--
1234
01:01:55,867 --> 01:01:59,967
I understand. I know
where that is. Yes, I do.
1235
01:02:00,633 --> 01:02:00,933
What time?
1236
01:02:04,133 --> 01:02:06,400
Okay. And-- No cameras. Got it.
1237
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:08,400
Okay, we'll--
1238
01:02:09,467 --> 01:02:11,100
Hello?
1239
01:02:11,133 --> 01:02:13,033
Hello? Okay, he's gone.
1240
01:02:13,067 --> 01:02:14,267
- [Mark] What did he--
1241
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:16,867
- He insisted that
there're no cameras,
1242
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:20,200
and he said he's got some
very crucial information about
1243
01:02:20,233 --> 01:02:23,033
Karl Atticus and he wants us
to meet him at a parking lot.
1244
01:02:23,067 --> 01:02:24,033
- [Mark] Parking lot? Why?
1245
01:02:24,067 --> 01:02:26,867
- A parking garage, actually.
1246
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:28,300
He's not gonna see that, is he?
1247
01:02:28,333 --> 01:02:30,567
- [Mark] I hope he doesn't.
1248
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,433
- [Chris] It's gonna
freak this guy out.
1249
01:02:32,467 --> 01:02:33,633
He might have something
important to say.
1250
01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:34,833
- [Mark] Well, I know,
but I feel like we
1251
01:02:34,867 --> 01:02:36,767
should at least
document it somehow.
1252
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,467
- [Chris] All right,
as long as he doesn't--
1253
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:40,167
Is that him? Is that him?
1254
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,700
There he is, gotta be.
1255
01:02:41,733 --> 01:02:44,900
- [Mark] Let's go,
let's go, let's go.
1256
01:04:56,767 --> 01:04:59,033
Thank you. Thanks a lot, sir.
1257
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,067
Just a couple of
quick questions.
1258
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,800
Just one more question,
two more questions--
1259
01:05:06,833 --> 01:05:08,433
- You'll have to talk
to somebody else.
1260
01:05:08,467 --> 01:05:11,900
- Hey, Mister Tallo, all
I want to do is ask--
1261
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:13,733
Fuck.
1262
01:05:16,933 --> 01:05:18,567
So we just got a police report--
1263
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:19,933
- File.
1264
01:05:19,967 --> 01:05:23,500
- A file from the Baltimore
Police Department,
1265
01:05:23,533 --> 01:05:27,133
and this is the file on Karl
Atticus's apparent suicide.
1266
01:05:27,167 --> 01:05:29,700
It's in the public domain
because the case is closed.
1267
01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:31,200
- Here he is!
1268
01:05:31,233 --> 01:05:33,633
- And there we have it! Karl
Atticus, ladies and gentlemen.
1269
01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:35,533
Look at this shit! Unbelievable.
1270
01:05:35,567 --> 01:05:37,667
- There's the body, look.
1271
01:05:38,967 --> 01:05:40,633
- It's says "unidentified
corpse," too.
1272
01:05:40,667 --> 01:05:43,700
We finally got it. We
requested this months ago.
1273
01:05:43,733 --> 01:05:46,633
Anyway, the case is closed,
so the information is
1274
01:05:46,667 --> 01:05:48,367
in the public domain.
1275
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,567
- Wait-- We've got an address!
1276
01:05:52,267 --> 01:05:54,333
I don't see any houses
at all out here.
1277
01:05:54,367 --> 01:05:56,600
- [Mark] There hasn't been
a house for like four miles.
1278
01:05:56,633 --> 01:05:58,067
- [Chris] Yeah, I think
we should turn back.
1279
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,300
There's nothing down here.
1280
01:05:59,333 --> 01:06:00,967
Are you sure you got
the address right?
1281
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,200
- [Mark] Yeah. I mean,
any farther and we're
1282
01:06:02,233 --> 01:06:04,300
gonna end up being off the map.
1283
01:06:04,333 --> 01:06:08,300
This road is supposed to have
ended like half a mile ago.
1284
01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:11,667
- [Chris] We're like,
out in the country here.
1285
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:14,100
- [Mark] Whoa, slow down,
slow down, slow down!
1286
01:06:14,133 --> 01:06:15,367
To the left, go to the left.
1287
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,267
- [Chris] What?
1288
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:18,533
- [Mark] To the left!
1289
01:06:18,567 --> 01:06:20,967
Yeah, keep going straight.
1290
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,333
- [Chris] What, what, what?
1291
01:06:22,367 --> 01:06:24,367
- [Mark] Right there!
Can't you see it?
1292
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,967
Look up!
1293
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,600
- [Chris] Holy shit!
1294
01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:31,467
- [Mark] That's it, behind
all them damn trees!
1295
01:06:32,633 --> 01:06:35,033
- [Chris] This place
is creepy as shit.
1296
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,867
Where are you going?
1297
01:06:44,467 --> 01:06:48,633
- There's a back door, and
there's a window next to it.
1298
01:06:51,967 --> 01:06:55,033
The front door's all boarded up.
1299
01:06:55,067 --> 01:06:55,900
Here--
1300
01:06:57,267 --> 01:07:01,500
Hey, we left the flashlight.
It's still in the car.
1301
01:07:02,233 --> 01:07:05,000
[crickets chirping]
1302
01:07:08,833 --> 01:07:11,033
You got a screwdriver?
1303
01:07:11,067 --> 01:07:15,067
- [Josh] Are we breaking
into a house? For real?
1304
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,833
- [Chris] Just watch
where you're going.
1305
01:07:27,867 --> 01:07:29,133
- [Mark] Jesus.
1306
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:39,667
- [Chris] Mark, check out this--
1307
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:41,533
There's another room.
1308
01:07:48,067 --> 01:07:49,500
Let's go upstairs.
1309
01:07:51,167 --> 01:07:52,600
Let's go upstairs.
1310
01:08:06,567 --> 01:08:07,833
Check this out.
1311
01:08:14,900 --> 01:08:16,967
Man, this place is a shithole.
1312
01:08:20,533 --> 01:08:24,700
Look at this crap. The
wall's falling apart, Jesus.
1313
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:43,267
This looks like somebody's
been here recently.
1314
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:46,133
- [Josh] Like, homeless
people or something?
1315
01:08:49,567 --> 01:08:52,900
[strange noise]
1316
01:08:52,933 --> 01:08:53,733
Shhh!
1317
01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:55,767
- [Josh] What?
1318
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:56,933
- Did you hear that?
1319
01:08:56,967 --> 01:08:58,533
- [Josh] No, man.
1320
01:08:58,567 --> 01:08:59,367
- You didn't hear that?
1321
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,467
- [Josh] No.
1322
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:30,933
Stay close.
1323
01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:54,667
Locked.
1324
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:57,500
It's locked. It's
got a deadbolt on it.
1325
01:10:06,133 --> 01:10:07,667
Whoa...
1326
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:08,633
Shit, yeah.
1327
01:10:13,533 --> 01:10:14,700
- [Josh] What's in there?
1328
01:10:14,733 --> 01:10:17,933
- Check this shit
out, it's a staircase.
1329
01:10:21,967 --> 01:10:24,600
It's some sort of attic.
1330
01:10:24,633 --> 01:10:25,667
- [Josh] Are you going up there?
1331
01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:26,533
- Hell no!
1332
01:10:27,833 --> 01:10:29,833
Here, give me the camera.
1333
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:40,733
Hey Chris! Where did he go?
1334
01:10:40,767 --> 01:10:43,667
- [Josh] I think
he's in the basement.
1335
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:47,200
- [Mark] The stairs
don't look too stable.
1336
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,533
I'm not going up there.
1337
01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:55,600
Chris?
1338
01:10:57,533 --> 01:10:59,033
Where the hell did he go?
1339
01:10:59,067 --> 01:11:00,600
- [Josh] I think
he's downstairs.
1340
01:11:00,633 --> 01:11:03,567
- How did he get down there?
There's a floor below us?
1341
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,167
- [Josh] Yeah. It's in
the hall, I'm pretty sure.
1342
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,033
- Chris!
1343
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,033
Chris?
1344
01:11:16,233 --> 01:11:17,433
- [loud crash]
1345
01:11:17,467 --> 01:11:19,367
Hey! Hurry up, I gotta
show you something!
1346
01:11:20,467 --> 01:11:21,367
- [Mark] Jesus
Christ, what is it?
1347
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:22,300
Josh, man, watch your step.
1348
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:24,233
- [Josh] Got it.
1349
01:11:24,267 --> 01:11:27,100
- [Mark] What?
This house is huge.
1350
01:11:28,033 --> 01:11:30,467
- [Chris] Watch your step, man.
1351
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,300
- Look at this! It's a cipher--
1352
01:11:38,367 --> 01:11:41,733
It's a Vernon Blake
cipher, like in the book!
1353
01:11:41,767 --> 01:11:44,033
Remember the book that
Peter Flood showed us?
1354
01:11:44,067 --> 01:11:46,400
In "Mortal Remains," these
were the kind of ciphers
1355
01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:48,533
that Vernon Blake was using.
1356
01:11:48,567 --> 01:11:49,500
- What the hell are
you talking about?
1357
01:11:49,533 --> 01:11:51,033
- [Josh] He wasn't there, Chris.
1358
01:11:51,067 --> 01:11:52,567
- Oh shit. Here, hold this, I
gotta get a picture of that.
1359
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,000
Vernon Blake used ciphers
like these in his books.
1360
01:11:55,033 --> 01:11:56,733
- Well, what the hell
is it doing here?
1361
01:11:56,767 --> 01:11:58,867
- I don't know, but I'm
taking a goddamn picture,
1362
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:00,300
that's for sure.
1363
01:12:02,433 --> 01:12:03,967
[rattling noise]
1364
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,767
- Shit, what was that?
1365
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,300
Did you hear that?
1366
01:12:10,267 --> 01:12:12,000
There's someone here.
1367
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,500
- Go, go, go, get out of here.
1368
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:17,733
- Go, go.
1369
01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:23,167
- That's the only way out.
1370
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,767
- Jesus Christ. Let's go, now!
1371
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,600
- [Chris] Don't fucking move.
1372
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,400
There's more than one of them.
1373
01:12:34,433 --> 01:12:36,933
There's two sets of footsteps.
1374
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,767
What the fuck are
they doing up there?
1375
01:12:43,767 --> 01:12:44,567
What's that?
1376
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,433
Shhh!
1377
01:12:46,067 --> 01:12:46,600
Oh shit...
1378
01:12:47,367 --> 01:12:49,133
[distant screaming]
1379
01:12:49,167 --> 01:12:50,467
Go, go! Now, go!
1380
01:12:57,300 --> 01:12:58,400
- [Mark] Look! The door's open!
1381
01:12:58,433 --> 01:12:59,333
- [Chris] I don't give a shit--
1382
01:12:59,367 --> 01:13:00,267
- [Mark] Did you leave it open?
1383
01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:01,800
- [Chris] Come on!
1384
01:13:04,833 --> 01:13:06,033
- [Mark] Who has the
key, do you have the key?
1385
01:13:06,067 --> 01:13:08,733
- [Josh] No, I don't
have the fucking key!
1386
01:13:08,767 --> 01:13:12,367
- [Mark] Go, go, go,
let's get out of here!
1387
01:13:13,533 --> 01:13:14,700
What was that?
1388
01:13:15,867 --> 01:13:17,867
[Josh] Go, go, go! Let's
get out of here, now!
1389
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:18,900
- [Mark] Go!
1390
01:13:21,333 --> 01:13:23,033
- [Chris] Roll the
camera! All the time,
1391
01:13:23,067 --> 01:13:26,300
just keep rolling! That's
what I pay you for!
1392
01:13:26,333 --> 01:13:27,367
Is somebody following us?
1393
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,700
- [Mark] No, not that I can see.
1394
01:13:28,733 --> 01:13:29,633
- [Chris] All right, we're fine,
1395
01:13:29,667 --> 01:13:30,567
we're going back to the house.
1396
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,800
- [Mark] What the hell was that?
1397
01:13:31,833 --> 01:13:33,033
- [Chris] I don't know,
homeless people maybe.
1398
01:13:33,067 --> 01:13:34,467
- [Mark] Didn't you hear
that person screaming?
1399
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:36,167
Homeless people screaming
like that? Come on--
1400
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,433
- [Josh] That's not
homeless people.
1401
01:13:37,467 --> 01:13:39,733
- [Chris] Don't worry
about it. We're fine,
1402
01:13:39,767 --> 01:13:42,233
we're safe, we're going
back to the house,
1403
01:13:42,267 --> 01:13:44,600
we're gonna figure out
that fucking cipher.
1404
01:13:44,633 --> 01:13:48,800
- [Mark] I think somebody
was in the glove compartment.
1405
01:13:50,033 --> 01:13:51,967
Hurry up, would you?
1406
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,467
- [Chris] Chill out, man.
1407
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:54,600
- [Mark] Perhaps the cops
are coming after us now!
1408
01:13:55,767 --> 01:13:57,000
Look, not now, but that
doesn't mean that the
1409
01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:57,733
people that were there
might not call them--
1410
01:13:57,767 --> 01:13:58,967
[Chris] Oh my God--
1411
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,133
[Mark] Don't "Oh
my God" me, Chris!
1412
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,500
- [Chris] There are no cops--
1413
01:14:01,533 --> 01:14:02,767
- [Mark] There were people
there. Josh, tell him!
1414
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,533
- [Josh] Did you see
anyone following us?
1415
01:14:04,567 --> 01:14:06,000
- [Chris] Whoever that
was, winos, derelicts,
1416
01:14:06,033 --> 01:14:07,933
they're homeless, they're
not calling the cops.
1417
01:14:07,967 --> 01:14:09,133
- [Mark] Derelicts
wearing cloaks,
1418
01:14:09,167 --> 01:14:10,167
what are you talking about?
1419
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,600
No!
1420
01:14:11,633 --> 01:14:13,100
Remember the guy that
attacked me in the cemetery?
1421
01:14:13,133 --> 01:14:14,933
He was wearing a cloak. These
people were wearing cloaks.
1422
01:14:14,967 --> 01:14:16,200
You don't see a connection?
1423
01:14:16,233 --> 01:14:17,433
- [Chris] Blankets
or trench coats...
1424
01:14:17,467 --> 01:14:18,900
Did you see people
wearing cloaks?
1425
01:14:18,933 --> 01:14:20,333
- [Josh] I don't know if
they were wearing cloaks...
1426
01:14:20,367 --> 01:14:23,433
- [Chris] They were
homeless people, trust me.
1427
01:14:23,467 --> 01:14:24,933
- [Mark] Chris, we need to
talk about this, all right?
1428
01:14:24,967 --> 01:14:26,133
We need to stop--
1429
01:14:26,167 --> 01:14:27,667
- [Chris] All right,
just calm down.
1430
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:29,267
- [Mark] No I'm not gonna
calm down! It stops here!
1431
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:30,733
- [Chris] I'm gonna
go upstairs-- We
found a valuable clue,
1432
01:14:30,767 --> 01:14:31,933
I'm gonna go upstairs
and print this thing out.
1433
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:32,867
- [Mark] You're
talking about clues,
1434
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:34,100
I'm talking about the cops!
1435
01:14:34,133 --> 01:14:35,367
- [Chris] There's no
cops out there! Relax!
1436
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,000
I wanna print this thing out.
1437
01:14:37,033 --> 01:14:38,433
We're gonna sit
down and solve this.
1438
01:14:38,467 --> 01:14:41,200
- [Mark] Who's calling
me again? Hello?
1439
01:14:41,233 --> 01:14:42,567
Hello?
1440
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,033
Hello!
1441
01:14:44,067 --> 01:14:48,233
- [Chris] All right, I've
decoded the cipher into English,
1442
01:14:49,367 --> 01:14:50,800
and it's definitely
the same symbols
1443
01:14:50,833 --> 01:14:54,100
Vernon Blake used
that Peter showed us.
1444
01:14:54,133 --> 01:14:58,233
I have 16 english letters
now, in no discernible order,
1445
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,233
and four Roman numerals.
1446
01:15:01,267 --> 01:15:02,967
What are you doing?
1447
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,000
- Just keeping an eye on
things, making sure that
1448
01:15:05,033 --> 01:15:07,067
nobody is messing
with the fucking car,
1449
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:10,000
just worry about your
pictography thingy there.
1450
01:15:10,033 --> 01:15:13,067
- All right, anyway, I have 16
letters, four Roman numerals,
1451
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,500
I'm not sure how they relate,
1452
01:15:16,633 --> 01:15:19,900
but maybe this decodes
into a sentence or
1453
01:15:19,933 --> 01:15:21,600
a word or something...
1454
01:15:24,267 --> 01:15:26,733
- [Josh] That could
be a grille cipher.
1455
01:15:26,767 --> 01:15:28,200
- A grill cipher?
What do you mean?
1456
01:15:28,233 --> 01:15:29,900
- [Josh] It's a kind of
cipher where you have to
1457
01:15:29,933 --> 01:15:33,767
put the numbers at
the top of the grid--
1458
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,733
It's hard to explain.
1459
01:15:35,767 --> 01:15:37,333
- Show me.
1460
01:15:37,367 --> 01:15:38,567
- [Josh] Give me some scissors.
1461
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,100
All right, so what I
did is, I cut out the
1462
01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:43,633
Roman numerals like that,
1463
01:15:43,667 --> 01:15:45,867
so they match up, and
you put this over the
1464
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:50,000
top of the cipher, and
that's how you decipher it.
1465
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,133
A...
1466
01:15:55,167 --> 01:15:56,567
T...
1467
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:57,433
M...
1468
01:16:00,667 --> 01:16:04,833
And then, usually what you
do is, you turn it clockwise,
1469
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:07,900
and then you do the same
thing over and over again.
1470
01:16:07,933 --> 01:16:09,200
So,
1471
01:16:09,233 --> 01:16:10,067
F...
1472
01:16:11,067 --> 01:16:12,400
A...
1473
01:16:12,433 --> 01:16:13,333
- [Chris] Look at
this! Come on, this is
1474
01:16:13,367 --> 01:16:15,467
amazing stuff he's doing here.
1475
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,233
- [Josh] H...
1476
01:16:18,667 --> 01:16:19,567
- [Chris] That's what it's
called, a grille cipher?
1477
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:20,367
- [Josh] A grill cipher, yeah.
1478
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,167
[Chris] Jesus Christ.
1479
01:16:22,967 --> 01:16:24,233
E...
1480
01:16:24,267 --> 01:16:25,833
R...
1481
01:16:25,867 --> 01:16:26,700
S...
1482
01:16:28,967 --> 01:16:30,567
G...
1483
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,767
Then one more.
1484
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,233
R...
1485
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:36,933
A...
1486
01:16:38,533 --> 01:16:39,367
V...
1487
01:16:40,533 --> 01:16:41,933
E.
1488
01:16:41,967 --> 01:16:42,967
There we go.
1489
01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,000
- [Chris] Oh my Christ, look.
1490
01:16:46,033 --> 01:16:47,200
- [Josh] "At my father's grave."
1491
01:16:47,233 --> 01:16:50,100
- [Chris] I'd say
we've solved this one.
1492
01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:53,733
Holy shit. we gotta go
back to the cemetery!
1493
01:16:53,767 --> 01:16:55,533
We gotta go back to
the cemetery, buddy.
1494
01:16:55,567 --> 01:16:59,500
- [Josh] Wait, isn't that
where he got beat up?
1495
01:16:59,533 --> 01:17:01,000
- [Chris] Gotta be something
here, I wanna find it.
1496
01:17:01,033 --> 01:17:02,533
- [Mark] Did you hear that?
1497
01:17:02,567 --> 01:17:03,800
- [Chris] Yeah, it's nothing.
1498
01:17:03,833 --> 01:17:05,300
Possums, a raccoon,
I don't give a shit.
1499
01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:08,600
Walking around in a cemetery
at two o'clock in the morning.
1500
01:17:09,767 --> 01:17:10,600
- [Mark] We're fucking
lost is what we are.
1501
01:17:10,633 --> 01:17:11,800
- We're not lost.
1502
01:17:11,833 --> 01:17:12,300
You've been filming
this whole time, right?
1503
01:17:13,433 --> 01:17:14,367
- [Josh] No, I
just turned it on.
1504
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,633
- Just now?
1505
01:17:15,667 --> 01:17:16,767
- Will you stop talking
to him and listen to me?
1506
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:17,600
- What?
1507
01:17:17,633 --> 01:17:18,800
- We're lost.
1508
01:17:18,833 --> 01:17:20,067
- We're not lost!
This is the cemetery,
1509
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,533
it's an older wing
of the cemetery.
1510
01:17:21,567 --> 01:17:23,700
- No, we left the cemetery
about a half hour ago, Chris.
1511
01:17:23,733 --> 01:17:24,967
We're not in the cemetery.
1512
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,500
- [Chris] He said
it was over here-
1513
01:17:26,533 --> 01:17:28,400
- No, you're gonna get us more
lost is what you're gonna do!
1514
01:17:28,433 --> 01:17:29,267
Fucking A.
1515
01:17:30,467 --> 01:17:33,067
I'm leaving, all right?
I'm done with this shit.
1516
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,667
- [Josh] We can't leave him.
1517
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:36,633
- I don't fucking care! we're
gonna go in this direction,
1518
01:17:36,667 --> 01:17:38,133
the way we came,
we're just gonna keep
1519
01:17:38,167 --> 01:17:40,967
walking until we get
back to the cemetery.
1520
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,733
- [Chris] Hey, hey!
This is it! Come on!
1521
01:17:43,767 --> 01:17:45,000
- [Mark] What are
you talking about?
1522
01:17:45,033 --> 01:17:48,133
- [Josh] Let's just
get this over with.
1523
01:17:48,733 --> 01:17:49,700
- [Chris] See?
1524
01:17:49,733 --> 01:17:51,200
- [Josh] Whoa!
1525
01:17:51,233 --> 01:17:52,733
- [Chris] I told you. Son
of a bitch, right there.
1526
01:17:52,767 --> 01:17:54,533
They moved him out to the
perimeter of the cemetery.
1527
01:17:54,567 --> 01:17:55,867
- [Mark] Great, we found
something. Now can we go?
1528
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:57,333
- [Chris] No. Look around,
1529
01:17:57,367 --> 01:18:00,100
see if there's any
symbols, any markings on
1530
01:18:00,133 --> 01:18:01,233
the back of the stone,
1531
01:18:01,267 --> 01:18:02,700
look for any other--
1532
01:18:03,867 --> 01:18:04,767
- [Mark] Nothing
on the back side.
1533
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,967
There's nothing, all right?
1534
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,400
- [Chris] All right.
Any other graves around?
1535
01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:08,067
- [Mark] No, there's
nothing around. Can we go?
1536
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,567
You found it-
1537
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,800
- [Chris] Back to the car.
We've gotta get the shovels,
1538
01:18:10,833 --> 01:18:11,800
we're gonna dig the
son of a bitch up.
1539
01:18:11,833 --> 01:18:13,633
- [Mark] What? You
aren't digging anything--
1540
01:18:13,667 --> 01:18:14,600
- [Josh] Are you
fucking kidding me? No--
1541
01:18:14,633 --> 01:18:15,900
- [Chris] I'm telling
you, we're on the
1542
01:18:15,933 --> 01:18:17,300
verge of finding something--
1543
01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:18,233
- [Josh] You're kidding.
1544
01:18:18,267 --> 01:18:19,500
- [Chris] Are you rolling?
1545
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:22,967
- [Mark] No! This is
a stupid idea. No!
1546
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,633
We're not digging
up graves, Chris!
1547
01:18:24,667 --> 01:18:26,200
- [Josh] Why the fuck
do we have shovels?
1548
01:18:26,233 --> 01:18:28,100
- [Chris] I'm gonna break
your ass. Take the shovel,
1549
01:18:28,133 --> 01:18:29,467
we're gonna go dig
this sucker up.
1550
01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:31,033
- [Josh] Seriously?
Mark, seriously?
1551
01:18:31,767 --> 01:18:32,533
Okay, for the record,
1552
01:18:32,567 --> 01:18:33,700
this is not my idea.
1553
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:37,633
- You are rolling now,
though, yes? Right?
1554
01:18:37,667 --> 01:18:38,867
- [Josh] Yes, I'm
shooting you guys
1555
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:40,300
committing a crime,
which is asinine.
1556
01:18:40,333 --> 01:18:42,567
- That's fine. Keep
rolling, whatever happens.
1557
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,067
- Oh shit, I hit something.
1558
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:45,000
- Hit what?
1559
01:18:45,033 --> 01:18:46,067
- I don't know what it is.
1560
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,367
- All right, hold on, hold on.
1561
01:18:50,567 --> 01:18:51,400
It's a--
1562
01:18:52,833 --> 01:18:55,133
- Aw, man, that's sick,
you're touching that shit.
1563
01:18:55,167 --> 01:18:56,667
- [Josh] Shouldn't it be in a
casket or something like that?
1564
01:18:56,700 --> 01:18:58,633
- [Chris] Yeah, I didn't
even dig down that far.
1565
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:00,300
What's this?
1566
01:19:00,333 --> 01:19:01,133
We've got a skull.
1567
01:19:01,167 --> 01:19:02,000
- [Josh] Shit!
1568
01:19:02,867 --> 01:19:03,867
- [Mark] what's that over there?
1569
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:05,933
- [Chris] That looks like--
1570
01:19:05,967 --> 01:19:06,800
hold on--
1571
01:19:07,667 --> 01:19:08,467
- [Mark] There's two of them!
1572
01:19:08,500 --> 01:19:09,700
- [Josh] Two skulls?
1573
01:19:09,733 --> 01:19:12,767
No, I'm done! No, no,
I'm out of here! I quit.
1574
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,100
- [Mark] What are
you talking about?
1575
01:19:14,133 --> 01:19:15,067
Josh, no, wait!
1576
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:16,500
Hold on, dude, whoa!
1577
01:19:16,533 --> 01:19:17,733
What are you talking about?
You can't leave now--
1578
01:19:17,767 --> 01:19:18,867
- [Josh] I'm done!
1579
01:19:20,067 --> 01:19:21,233
- [Chris] There's a
lot more here, guys.
1580
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,367
- [Josh] You guys are digging
up graves, you're crazy!
1581
01:19:25,833 --> 01:19:27,033
- [Mark] Chris, it's time to
go, all right? He's right--
1582
01:19:27,067 --> 01:19:29,667
- Hold on. There's a lot
more going on here...
1583
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:30,500
- [Mark] Josh, don't leave!
1584
01:19:30,533 --> 01:19:31,333
- [Chris] Jesus Christ.
1585
01:19:31,367 --> 01:19:32,200
- [Mark] Josh!
1586
01:19:33,067 --> 01:19:34,267
We've only got one car, man!
1587
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:35,733
It's not like you'll be
able to get anywhere--
1588
01:19:35,767 --> 01:19:37,433
- [Josh] I'll hitch a ride,
I don't care. I'm done.
1589
01:19:37,467 --> 01:19:38,633
- [Mark] Josh!
1590
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,800
- [Chris] Hold on! I
got something here--
1591
01:19:44,833 --> 01:19:46,033
- [Mark] Chris, he's gone.
1592
01:19:46,067 --> 01:19:47,167
I think he's gonna
call the cops...
1593
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:51,233
- I got something down
here that's made of metal.
1594
01:19:51,267 --> 01:19:52,400
- [Mark] What?
1595
01:19:52,433 --> 01:19:54,833
- Look right there,
what is that?
1596
01:19:54,867 --> 01:19:57,267
- Help me get this
thing out of here.
1597
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:58,900
This could be it.
1598
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:06,767
It's clear. What
the hell is this?
1599
01:20:07,567 --> 01:20:08,700
[Grunting]
1600
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:11,833
- It's heavy as
hell, whatever it is.
1601
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,267
- [Mark] Jesus Christ!
What the fuck is that?
1602
01:20:18,367 --> 01:20:20,933
- [Chris] See
that? You see that?
1603
01:20:20,967 --> 01:20:22,400
It's a fucking film can.
1604
01:20:22,433 --> 01:20:23,867
- [Mark] What the hell
is that doing here?
1605
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:25,500
[screaming in distance]
1606
01:20:25,533 --> 01:20:26,667
- [Chris] Oh shit,
you hear that?
1607
01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:27,900
- [Mark] It's time to go!
1608
01:20:27,933 --> 01:20:29,167
- [Chris] Let's get
the hell out of here!
1609
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,767
Get the camera! Get
the camera! Come on!
1610
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:35,867
- [Mark] Has Josh
called you back?
1611
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:36,733
- [Chris] No.
1612
01:20:38,033 --> 01:20:41,867
Jesus Christ, I think--
I think this is it, man.
1613
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:43,800
I seriously think this is it.
1614
01:20:43,833 --> 01:20:45,733
I think we fucking found it.
1615
01:20:47,233 --> 01:20:48,467
- [Mark] Fucking A. What did
he have it buried there for?
1616
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:49,733
- [Chris] We gotta
call that guy back,
1617
01:20:49,767 --> 01:20:51,933
that guy Dave, we
gotta call him.
1618
01:20:51,967 --> 01:20:53,900
[cell phone ringing]
1619
01:20:53,933 --> 01:20:55,633
- [Phone Voice] Call
from unknown caller.
1620
01:20:55,667 --> 01:20:56,567
- [Chris] Who's that?
1621
01:20:57,433 --> 01:20:58,800
Maybe we should call the cops.
1622
01:20:58,833 --> 01:21:00,833
- [Mark] Though there's
almost certainly evidence of
1623
01:21:00,867 --> 01:21:01,800
criminal activity--
1624
01:21:01,833 --> 01:21:03,033
Criminal!
1625
01:21:03,067 --> 01:21:04,400
- [Chris] Now we're
fucking grave robbers.
1626
01:21:04,433 --> 01:21:05,333
- While cemetery
officials have declined to
1627
01:21:05,367 --> 01:21:06,800
make any public statement,
1628
01:21:06,833 --> 01:21:08,033
local and state police
were notified immediately,
1629
01:21:08,067 --> 01:21:08,967
and an investigation
is currently underway.
1630
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,700
An FBI Behavioral Science unit--
1631
01:21:10,733 --> 01:21:13,067
Fucking FBI is now involved!
1632
01:21:14,333 --> 01:21:15,567
- [Chris] All right.
It's okay. Nobody--
1633
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,000
- --has stepped in
to assist with the
1634
01:21:17,033 --> 01:21:18,200
identification of the
remains. Forensic testing--
1635
01:21:18,233 --> 01:21:19,500
- [Chris] Nobody
knows we were there,
1636
01:21:19,533 --> 01:21:21,467
nobody knows we
were there, okay?
1637
01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:22,800
- It's the fucking FBI!
1638
01:21:22,833 --> 01:21:23,933
- [Chris] How are
they gonna find us?
1639
01:21:23,967 --> 01:21:25,200
[phone ringing]
1640
01:21:26,333 --> 01:21:28,600
- Who the fuck is
calling me, goddammit?
1641
01:21:29,867 --> 01:21:30,667
Hello?
1642
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:31,833
Who?
1643
01:21:31,867 --> 01:21:33,300
Hello?
1644
01:21:33,333 --> 01:21:35,533
Oh shit. Hey, Burian! Dave!
1645
01:21:35,567 --> 01:21:37,067
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
1646
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:38,833
No, no, no, listen,
we've been waiting for
1647
01:21:38,867 --> 01:21:39,700
your call all weekend.
1648
01:21:39,733 --> 01:21:40,700
Here, talk to Chris.
1649
01:21:40,733 --> 01:21:41,967
Put the fucking camera down.
1650
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Here, listen.
1651
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:48,067
- [Chris] Listen, okay Dave?
Yeah, what's going on, man?
1652
01:21:49,533 --> 01:21:52,633
We wanted to ask you again
about "Mortal Remains"--
1653
01:21:53,500 --> 01:21:55,067
Uh, yeah, we could meet you--
1654
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:55,933
What?
1655
01:21:57,333 --> 01:21:58,533
how about, like--
1656
01:21:59,433 --> 01:22:01,033
What time is it?
1657
01:22:01,067 --> 01:22:01,900
How about an hour?
1658
01:22:01,933 --> 01:22:02,967
An hour from now?
1659
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,167
We'll meet you there.
1660
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,633
I got something I
want to show you too,
1661
01:22:05,667 --> 01:22:07,100
we're gonna--
1662
01:22:07,133 --> 01:22:08,033
- [Mark] No, no, no, you don't
want to show him anything!
1663
01:22:08,067 --> 01:22:09,900
- [Chris] Yeah, it's dynamite.
1664
01:22:09,933 --> 01:22:11,433
- [Mark] No, no, no, what
are you talking about,
1665
01:22:11,467 --> 01:22:12,633
I don't want to
transport that thing,
1666
01:22:12,667 --> 01:22:13,900
I don't want anybody
to see evidence.
1667
01:22:13,933 --> 01:22:15,433
I don't wanna be walking
around with that thing!
1668
01:22:15,467 --> 01:22:16,900
- [Chris] He's the one that
said it's worth a goldmine.
1669
01:22:16,933 --> 01:22:18,200
- [Mark] That's exactly
right, it's our meal ticket,
1670
01:22:18,233 --> 01:22:19,433
so the last thing we
should be doing is
1671
01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:20,233
moving this fucker
around and all.
1672
01:22:20,267 --> 01:22:21,667
Just leave it here.
1673
01:22:21,700 --> 01:22:23,533
- [Chris] No, we gotta
bring it, we gotta bring it.
1674
01:22:23,567 --> 01:22:24,800
Let's go meet the guy.
1675
01:22:24,833 --> 01:22:25,733
- [Mark] And then
the next thing you
1676
01:22:25,767 --> 01:22:27,000
know we're fucking tailed.
1677
01:22:27,033 --> 01:22:28,633
- [Chris] The FBI knows
nothing about us, okay?
1678
01:22:28,667 --> 01:22:29,800
- [Mark] I don't want
that thing leaving here.
1679
01:22:29,833 --> 01:22:31,133
It's fragile, it
needs to be preserved,
1680
01:22:31,167 --> 01:22:32,333
I don't--
1681
01:22:32,367 --> 01:22:33,267
- [Chris] We're gonna
show this to Dave.
1682
01:22:33,300 --> 01:22:34,133
He'll know what it's worth.
1683
01:22:34,167 --> 01:22:35,400
Let's go.
1684
01:22:35,433 --> 01:22:37,100
- [Mark] No, no, no.
1685
01:22:39,533 --> 01:22:41,300
- Holy shit, guys.
1686
01:22:41,333 --> 01:22:43,400
- [Chris] What do you think?
1687
01:22:43,433 --> 01:22:45,233
- This could be it, guys.
1688
01:22:45,267 --> 01:22:46,833
- [Mark] Seriously?
1689
01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:48,667
- I'm totally serious.
1690
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:51,033
- [Chris] Oh my God. So what
do we do, what do you suggest?
1691
01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:54,467
- Well, we've got to get this
out of the elements, I think.
1692
01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:58,133
- [Chris] Let's pack it back up.
1693
01:22:58,167 --> 01:23:00,100
- Yeah, does somebody
have some gloves?
1694
01:23:00,133 --> 01:23:03,233
- [Mark] Yeah, we've
got some in the car.
1695
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,467
- [Dave] Hey, seriously...
How did you guys come
1696
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:11,933
across this thing?
1697
01:23:11,967 --> 01:23:13,933
- [Chris] It's a long story...
1698
01:23:13,967 --> 01:23:16,233
- [Mark] Goddamn, I have
no idea what Josh did,
1699
01:23:16,267 --> 01:23:17,833
but he has it locked on
some user setting and
1700
01:23:17,867 --> 01:23:20,400
I can't get it unlocked.
1701
01:23:20,433 --> 01:23:21,600
- [Chris] What are you
filming for anyway?
1702
01:23:21,633 --> 01:23:22,533
- [Mark] I'm filming
everything from now on.
1703
01:23:22,567 --> 01:23:23,667
Let me tell you something,
1704
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:25,167
I don't trust anybody
at this point.
1705
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,633
- [Chris] I don't blame you,
but we're still gonna have to
1706
01:23:26,667 --> 01:23:28,167
turn this thing over to
somebody to get it restored.
1707
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,800
- [Mark] What are
you talking about--
1708
01:23:30,833 --> 01:23:32,833
[tires screeching]
1709
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,733
[screaming]
1710
01:29:57,667 --> 01:30:00,733
[eerie music]
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