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Three days left, folks. 9 00:00:27,724 --> 00:00:29,269 We've got a thousand boxes 10 00:00:29,354 --> 00:00:30,793 to pack. 11 00:00:31,003 --> 00:00:32,399 All right, you've got this, guys. 12 00:00:32,554 --> 00:00:34,341 Next truck will be here in 40 minutes. 13 00:00:34,425 --> 00:00:35,864 ♪ I'll be honest with you... ♪ 14 00:00:35,948 --> 00:00:37,500 Hey, Rita, let's not be slipping 15 00:00:37,585 --> 00:00:39,219 any of those socks into our pockets now. 16 00:00:39,304 --> 00:00:41,261 Pastor Liam, what in the world am I gonna do 17 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:42,554 with a bunch of men's socks? 18 00:00:42,639 --> 00:00:44,165 Now, that's between you and the Lord. 19 00:00:44,257 --> 00:00:45,700 Not for me to judge. 20 00:00:45,784 --> 00:00:47,617 Hey, good to see you, Teddy. Let's get 21 00:00:47,673 --> 00:00:49,954 these boxes loaded. We're almost at the finish line. 22 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:52,985 Pastor Liam, this is my sister Erica 23 00:00:53,069 --> 00:00:54,836 I was telling you about and her son Zach. 24 00:00:54,921 --> 00:00:56,188 They're visiting from Ann Arbor 25 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:58,258 and insisted on coming out to help. 26 00:00:58,343 --> 00:01:01,211 I've seen every one of your sermons on YouTube, 27 00:01:01,296 --> 00:01:02,930 but Sunday will be our first 28 00:01:03,015 --> 00:01:04,610 - live service. - Liam, 29 00:01:04,695 --> 00:01:06,813 the people from Morning in the Cityare here. 30 00:01:06,897 --> 00:01:08,203 Enjoy your visit. 31 00:01:08,288 --> 00:01:10,211 Hey, you're gonna need this. 32 00:01:10,296 --> 00:01:12,442 No point in doing an interview about the new book 33 00:01:12,534 --> 00:01:14,232 - without... - The book. 34 00:01:15,637 --> 00:01:17,032 Our ninth book. 35 00:01:18,687 --> 00:01:19,836 False alarm. They need 36 00:01:19,921 --> 00:01:22,058 15 more minutes. I'm sorry. 37 00:01:22,289 --> 00:01:24,961 It's okay. Take a breath, Richard. 38 00:01:25,046 --> 00:01:26,192 Everything's good. 39 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:28,186 We don't want you having another heart attack. 40 00:01:30,125 --> 00:01:31,750 Where's, uh, where's Olivia? 41 00:01:31,891 --> 00:01:33,243 I think I heard she's all made up 42 00:01:33,327 --> 00:01:35,625 and just waiting in the sanctuary by herself. 43 00:01:43,734 --> 00:01:44,929 Hey, Good. 44 00:01:45,882 --> 00:01:47,071 How'd it go? 45 00:01:47,163 --> 00:01:49,876 About as awful as you would expect. 46 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:52,093 Mm. 47 00:01:54,382 --> 00:01:57,195 They told him the cancer has spread to his bones. 48 00:01:58,421 --> 00:01:59,921 - It's only a matter of time now. 49 00:02:00,127 --> 00:02:01,749 Sorry to interrupt. 50 00:02:02,046 --> 00:02:04,164 The Morning in the City people are ready. 51 00:02:04,656 --> 00:02:06,367 Can you give us a minute, Richard? 52 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:15,976 If you feel like you don't want to do this, 53 00:02:16,226 --> 00:02:18,336 we could always reschedule. It's no big deal. 54 00:02:18,421 --> 00:02:21,203 No, it's okay. They're already here. 55 00:02:24,226 --> 00:02:25,904 Let's go sell some books. 56 00:02:26,136 --> 00:02:27,790 ♪ Today's a new day 57 00:02:29,405 --> 00:02:31,867 ♪ But there is no sunshine 58 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:35,500 ♪ Nothing but clouds, and it's dark in my heart ♪ 59 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:38,787 ♪ And it feels like a cold night ♪ 60 00:02:39,335 --> 00:02:41,960 ♪ Today's a new day 61 00:02:42,045 --> 00:02:45,359 ♪ Uh♪♪ But where are my blue skies? 62 00:02:46,156 --> 00:02:49,267 ♪ Where is the love and the joy that you promised me? ♪ 63 00:02:49,359 --> 00:02:53,236 ♪ Tell me it's all right ♪ I'll be honest with you ♪ 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,328 ♪ I almost gave up 65 00:02:55,413 --> 00:02:59,507 ♪ But a power that I can't explain. ♪ 66 00:03:23,375 --> 00:03:24,528 Thank you for coming. 67 00:03:24,612 --> 00:03:27,487 Thank you for agreeing to meet with me. 68 00:03:27,726 --> 00:03:30,226 Well, it's nice to meet you, Pastor Wright. 69 00:03:30,429 --> 00:03:31,622 This is Benjamin Colón. 70 00:03:31,706 --> 00:03:33,485 He's the only actual lawyer among us. 71 00:03:33,570 --> 00:03:35,132 My name's Dr. Jason Bull. 72 00:03:35,609 --> 00:03:37,510 How can we be of help to you? 73 00:03:38,937 --> 00:03:41,406 You can bring my wife back to life. 74 00:03:42,978 --> 00:03:45,921 Failing that, you can help me convince the police 75 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:47,570 and everyone else 76 00:03:47,656 --> 00:03:49,390 that I had nothing to do with this. 77 00:03:50,562 --> 00:03:51,973 So I can get out of here. 78 00:03:52,234 --> 00:03:54,493 So I can... go back to my ministry. 79 00:03:54,578 --> 00:03:57,164 So I can give my wife Olivia 80 00:03:57,945 --> 00:03:59,417 a proper funeral. 81 00:04:01,125 --> 00:04:03,000 We've been together since high school. 82 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:05,612 I called her Good. 83 00:04:06,265 --> 00:04:08,031 That was my-my nickname for her, 84 00:04:08,328 --> 00:04:10,455 because she just... was. 85 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:13,795 Good. She was the best person I knew. The very best. 86 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:16,477 I don't understand why anyone would want to do this to her, 87 00:04:16,562 --> 00:04:18,158 and I don't understand why anyone would think 88 00:04:18,242 --> 00:04:19,640 it might be me. 89 00:04:19,841 --> 00:04:22,716 Pastor Wright, the police found drops of blood 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,936 on your shoelaces... Olivia's blood. 91 00:04:25,020 --> 00:04:26,546 Yeah, but I explained that to the police. 92 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:28,288 She had a nosebleed. 93 00:04:28,545 --> 00:04:30,463 She gets them sometimes when it's dry out. 94 00:04:30,547 --> 00:04:33,937 I'm guessing a, a drop must have fallen on my shoe. 95 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:36,295 Well, the police also tell us 96 00:04:36,379 --> 00:04:38,428 that when they came by your house yesterday 97 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:41,288 to inform you that your wife had been murdered, 98 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:44,423 you insisted you were at your home when the murder occurred. 99 00:04:44,605 --> 00:04:49,091 But the DVR connected to your home security cameras 100 00:04:49,175 --> 00:04:51,615 very plainly show you arriving at your house 101 00:04:51,699 --> 00:04:53,687 at 2:35 in the morning. 102 00:04:53,772 --> 00:04:55,836 Well past the time the police believe. 103 00:04:55,921 --> 00:04:57,313 Olivia's throat was slit. 104 00:04:59,687 --> 00:05:00,828 Liam... 105 00:05:00,913 --> 00:05:05,374 Pastor Wright, if we are going to represent you, 106 00:05:05,819 --> 00:05:07,501 you have to tell us the truth about everything, 107 00:05:07,585 --> 00:05:09,702 starting with where you really were. 108 00:05:11,257 --> 00:05:14,029 Whatever I tell you stays with you, right? 109 00:05:14,546 --> 00:05:17,937 I mean... I'll tell you everything, 110 00:05:18,062 --> 00:05:19,689 but we can have a discussion about it 111 00:05:19,774 --> 00:05:22,226 before you decide to do anything with it, right? 112 00:05:22,453 --> 00:05:24,066 Well, of course. 113 00:05:24,398 --> 00:05:26,393 Everything you say to us is protected 114 00:05:26,477 --> 00:05:28,421 under attorney/client privilege. 115 00:05:32,101 --> 00:05:34,484 When my wife... 116 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:36,779 When my Olivia was being attacked, 117 00:05:36,864 --> 00:05:38,474 I was... 118 00:05:40,229 --> 00:05:41,968 I was with someone else. 119 00:05:44,990 --> 00:05:46,304 A lover? 120 00:05:47,906 --> 00:05:49,084 Okay. 121 00:05:49,452 --> 00:05:51,265 But at least now we have an alibi. 122 00:05:51,734 --> 00:05:54,085 Your lover, this woman you were with, 123 00:05:54,546 --> 00:05:58,294 we're gonna need her to agree to testify on your behalf. 124 00:05:59,499 --> 00:06:00,976 It wasn't a woman. 125 00:06:02,585 --> 00:06:06,084 And did your wife... Did she know? 126 00:06:06,687 --> 00:06:08,586 Yes, uh, Olivia knew all about it. 127 00:06:08,671 --> 00:06:10,617 She'd known about it for years. Look, I... 128 00:06:10,782 --> 00:06:12,546 I know how this sounds. 129 00:06:12,951 --> 00:06:15,359 But neither one of us wanted to abandon 130 00:06:15,507 --> 00:06:16,791 what we were doing at Riverstone. 131 00:06:16,875 --> 00:06:19,632 We-we couldn't just quit what God helped us build. 132 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:21,056 Liam, 133 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:23,110 you have to know this is not helping you with a jury. 134 00:06:23,194 --> 00:06:25,288 You are handing them a motive for murder 135 00:06:25,429 --> 00:06:27,952 far stronger than divorce. 136 00:06:28,601 --> 00:06:29,867 You have a secret, 137 00:06:30,192 --> 00:06:32,085 and you wanted to keep it hidden. 138 00:06:32,952 --> 00:06:35,418 Well, the prosecution is going to imply that Olivia was 139 00:06:35,502 --> 00:06:37,333 threatening to share your secret with the world, 140 00:06:37,417 --> 00:06:39,546 so you silenced her. 141 00:06:42,135 --> 00:06:44,382 Conversely, we at least have a witness 142 00:06:44,467 --> 00:06:46,452 who can corroborate where Pastor Liam was 143 00:06:46,577 --> 00:06:47,778 when Olivia was killed. 144 00:06:48,476 --> 00:06:51,102 No. No, I-I wouldn't want him to testify. 145 00:06:51,187 --> 00:06:53,546 I don't want him dragged into this. 146 00:06:53,718 --> 00:06:55,960 W-We need to find another way. 147 00:06:56,044 --> 00:06:57,527 Liam... Gentlemen, please, 148 00:06:57,611 --> 00:07:01,009 I've-I've... I've kept this to myself all these years 149 00:07:01,093 --> 00:07:03,679 because I knew it would tear my church apart. 150 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:06,891 Sure, a small minority would understand, 151 00:07:06,976 --> 00:07:08,320 but the rest... 152 00:07:11,718 --> 00:07:14,742 Please. Please. 153 00:07:15,398 --> 00:07:17,312 I-I've already lost my Olivia. 154 00:07:18,518 --> 00:07:20,367 I can't lose Riverstone, too. 155 00:07:20,794 --> 00:07:23,281 Liam, I understand this is very difficult, 156 00:07:23,366 --> 00:07:28,117 but... the reality is, you are on trial for your life. 157 00:07:28,294 --> 00:07:30,821 And in my experience... 158 00:07:31,218 --> 00:07:34,327 even though you don't want this to come out, it will. 159 00:07:34,692 --> 00:07:36,697 Now, there have been other men, I assume. 160 00:07:36,952 --> 00:07:39,351 Texts, e-mails, phone calls. 161 00:07:39,773 --> 00:07:42,492 I promise you, as sure as we are sitting here, 162 00:07:42,668 --> 00:07:44,020 someone's gonna sell their story. 163 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:45,923 Dr. Bull is right. 164 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:48,186 The best thing we can do is control the narrative. 165 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:50,687 Control how this is shared with the world. 166 00:07:50,968 --> 00:07:52,515 I'm telling you, 167 00:07:52,976 --> 00:07:56,663 I don't know how to do this if we hold this back. 168 00:07:57,015 --> 00:07:59,515 This is your alibi, Liam. 169 00:08:00,335 --> 00:08:02,188 Now, if you want to keep 170 00:08:02,273 --> 00:08:04,046 your sexuality a secret... 171 00:08:04,263 --> 00:08:06,640 if you want to cross your fingers that the prosecution 172 00:08:06,773 --> 00:08:09,054 is not gonna discover this, then... 173 00:08:09,933 --> 00:08:13,226 I think you need to find another legal team. 174 00:08:14,702 --> 00:08:16,281 But if you want to trust us, 175 00:08:16,558 --> 00:08:19,101 I think we can help you. 176 00:08:19,216 --> 00:08:20,445 It's your choice. 177 00:08:23,479 --> 00:08:25,264 *BULL* Season 05 Episode 05 178 00:08:25,348 --> 00:08:27,562 Episode Title: " Fallen Idols" Aired on: January 04, 2021 179 00:08:30,954 --> 00:08:34,308 As a young man, I spent years praying to God, 180 00:08:34,393 --> 00:08:38,624 pleading with him or her to change me... fix me. 181 00:08:39,773 --> 00:08:41,601 Olivia would pray with me. 182 00:08:42,794 --> 00:08:45,256 I can't pretend to know God's thinking, 183 00:08:45,421 --> 00:08:48,631 but I can tell you the Lord never did answer 184 00:08:48,716 --> 00:08:49,812 those particular prayers. 185 00:08:49,904 --> 00:08:53,663 I can only assume he or she didn't think 186 00:08:53,748 --> 00:08:55,530 I was actually broken. 187 00:08:55,686 --> 00:08:59,083 Nice. Clever way to get our narrative out there 188 00:08:59,167 --> 00:09:00,515 before we step foot in court. 189 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,727 Well, let's just hope our potential jurors are watching. 190 00:09:02,811 --> 00:09:04,294 We were committed to our partnership, 191 00:09:04,379 --> 00:09:07,167 to our mission to the church. 192 00:09:07,585 --> 00:09:10,530 No one's claiming it was a traditional marriage. 193 00:09:11,935 --> 00:09:14,465 But I truly loved her with all my heart. 194 00:09:15,326 --> 00:09:16,634 Pastor Wright, 195 00:09:17,067 --> 00:09:19,676 did you kill your wife? 196 00:09:20,661 --> 00:09:23,786 As God is my witness, I did not. 197 00:09:27,137 --> 00:09:28,895 How are we ever gonna convince a jury 198 00:09:29,034 --> 00:09:30,287 that Liam's telling the truth 199 00:09:30,372 --> 00:09:32,715 when... his entire life has been a lie? 200 00:09:34,416 --> 00:09:36,622 And it doesn't help that they've made millions 201 00:09:36,707 --> 00:09:37,992 off his books either, 202 00:09:38,076 --> 00:09:39,602 which are obviously complete fiction. 203 00:09:39,686 --> 00:09:41,497 I share your concern, but let's not forget 204 00:09:41,582 --> 00:09:42,866 all the good that's been done. 205 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:45,450 That church of theirs has opened up food pantries 206 00:09:45,535 --> 00:09:48,840 for the poor and the homeless, clinics, shelters. 207 00:09:49,059 --> 00:09:51,831 Liam and Olivia have never taken a salary, not a single penny. 208 00:09:51,916 --> 00:09:53,630 Every dollar that was donated to the church 209 00:09:53,715 --> 00:09:55,107 stayed with the church. 210 00:09:55,192 --> 00:09:57,713 The only money they made came from their... books. 211 00:09:57,799 --> 00:10:00,362 Which were about a marriage that didn't exist. 212 00:10:00,885 --> 00:10:03,127 So, do you want to call Liam and tell him 213 00:10:03,212 --> 00:10:05,378 that we made a mistake, we don't want to represent him? 214 00:10:05,463 --> 00:10:07,400 No, I don't want to do that. 215 00:10:07,758 --> 00:10:10,730 I just think that lying, particularly on the part 216 00:10:10,815 --> 00:10:13,120 of a spiritual leader, is going to be a tough thing 217 00:10:13,205 --> 00:10:14,315 for a jury to overlook. 218 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,947 I agree. That's why we need jurors 219 00:10:17,032 --> 00:10:19,293 who understand that to err is human. 220 00:10:19,393 --> 00:10:23,330 And sometimes it's not possible to practice what you preach. 221 00:10:24,570 --> 00:10:26,290 The throat had been slit. 222 00:10:26,518 --> 00:10:29,330 One clean cut, straight across. 223 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:32,207 Anything else you can tell us about that night? 224 00:10:32,291 --> 00:10:34,400 Yeah. She fought back. 225 00:10:34,822 --> 00:10:37,007 Really? How can you be so sure? 226 00:10:37,572 --> 00:10:39,433 Well, you can't slit someone's throat 227 00:10:39,518 --> 00:10:41,425 in a clean cut like that unless you're certain 228 00:10:41,510 --> 00:10:43,230 you have both their arms under your control. 229 00:10:43,354 --> 00:10:45,245 Now, we believe the killer struggled with Olivia 230 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:47,150 until he was able to hold down both her arms 231 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:49,433 at the wrist with his left hand 232 00:10:49,518 --> 00:10:51,565 and then he was able to make the cut with his right. 233 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:53,198 Now, you see evidence of this struggle 234 00:10:53,283 --> 00:10:56,377 in the smashed glass on the victim's wristwatch. 235 00:10:57,283 --> 00:10:58,542 We suspect 236 00:10:58,627 --> 00:11:01,111 that as he smashed her wrist to the floor, 237 00:11:01,221 --> 00:11:02,628 the watch crystal shattered. 238 00:11:02,713 --> 00:11:04,386 Now, this is also how we were able 239 00:11:04,471 --> 00:11:05,846 to establish a time of death. 240 00:11:05,986 --> 00:11:07,342 10:43 p.m. 241 00:11:07,728 --> 00:11:09,697 Now, Detective Daniels, as the lead investigator 242 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:12,378 on this case, it was your job to inform. 243 00:11:12,463 --> 00:11:14,362 Olivia Wright's husband... The defendant... 244 00:11:14,541 --> 00:11:16,526 Of her death the morning her body was discovered. 245 00:11:16,611 --> 00:11:17,714 Is that correct? 246 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:19,440 - That's correct. - And did you notice 247 00:11:19,525 --> 00:11:22,947 at that time anything unusual about his appearance? 248 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:25,597 When I made the initial contact, no. 249 00:11:25,682 --> 00:11:27,807 I went to his home, he was dressed in pajamas 250 00:11:27,892 --> 00:11:29,015 and a robe and slippers. 251 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:30,652 But, uh, when I asked him to accompany me 252 00:11:30,736 --> 00:11:32,479 to identify the body and he got dressed, 253 00:11:32,564 --> 00:11:34,940 I noticed some dark spots on his shoes. 254 00:11:35,025 --> 00:11:38,112 Specifically on the laces of his right shoe. 255 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,590 Uh, I asked if these were the same shoes he was wearing 256 00:11:40,674 --> 00:11:43,416 the day before and he freely admitted that they were. 257 00:11:43,908 --> 00:11:45,206 And then what happened? 258 00:11:46,018 --> 00:11:48,511 Well, once we took the defendant into custody, 259 00:11:48,596 --> 00:11:51,299 we collected the shoe and sent it to the lab for testing. 260 00:11:51,674 --> 00:11:52,996 And what did they find? 261 00:11:53,549 --> 00:11:55,564 That the spots were in fact blood 262 00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:59,572 and that the blood matched that of the victim Olivia Wright. 263 00:12:02,291 --> 00:12:04,752 And did the defendant offer any explanation 264 00:12:04,861 --> 00:12:08,041 for the presence of his wife's blood on his shoes? 265 00:12:08,533 --> 00:12:11,623 He claimed the victim had had a nosebleed the morning before. 266 00:12:11,916 --> 00:12:13,270 And did he indicate whether or not 267 00:12:13,354 --> 00:12:18,033 there were any other witnesses to this alleged nosebleed? 268 00:12:18,424 --> 00:12:20,386 No. He claimed it happened in the residence, 269 00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:21,994 that just the two of them were there. 270 00:12:22,163 --> 00:12:24,723 I have no further questions at this time, Your Honor. 271 00:12:28,775 --> 00:12:32,440 Now, Detective Daniels, when you found Mrs. Wright, 272 00:12:32,580 --> 00:12:35,256 it was in the hall of the church, was it not? 273 00:12:35,463 --> 00:12:36,682 Yes. 274 00:12:36,767 --> 00:12:39,651 A-And the hall was in the midst of being used 275 00:12:39,736 --> 00:12:43,394 as a place to assemble hundreds of gift boxes 276 00:12:43,478 --> 00:12:46,033 filled with personal items for the less fortunate. 277 00:12:46,118 --> 00:12:50,120 Uh, things like new socks, mm, bathroom products. 278 00:12:50,205 --> 00:12:51,228 That sort of thing. 279 00:12:51,312 --> 00:12:53,730 Yes. Mrs. Wright's body was actually found under one 280 00:12:53,815 --> 00:12:56,549 of the tables being used to put those boxes together. 281 00:12:56,989 --> 00:12:58,210 I see. 282 00:12:58,330 --> 00:12:59,839 And were you able to determine 283 00:12:59,924 --> 00:13:01,994 if any of the boxes were missing? 284 00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:05,002 Excuse me? Well, the, 285 00:13:05,158 --> 00:13:07,679 uh... the-the boxes. 286 00:13:07,981 --> 00:13:09,424 The gift boxes. 287 00:13:10,291 --> 00:13:11,658 Certainly it crossed your mind 288 00:13:11,743 --> 00:13:14,424 that this might have been an attempted robbery. 289 00:13:16,479 --> 00:13:18,908 You wouldn't just leap to the idea 290 00:13:18,992 --> 00:13:21,215 that my client did this without exploring 291 00:13:21,299 --> 00:13:23,455 every other possibility, now, would you? 292 00:13:26,377 --> 00:13:28,222 The witness will answer the question. 293 00:13:28,524 --> 00:13:29,832 That's all right, Your Honor. 294 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,846 I'll ask another. 295 00:13:33,374 --> 00:13:36,772 Detective, how would you describe 296 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,537 the neighborhood where Riverstone is located? 297 00:13:39,869 --> 00:13:40,908 How do you mean? 298 00:13:40,993 --> 00:13:42,652 Well, would you regard it as a safe neighborhood, 299 00:13:42,736 --> 00:13:46,544 a somewhat unsafe neighborhood, a dangerous neighborhood? 300 00:13:46,962 --> 00:13:49,979 Somewhere between unsafe and dangerous, I suppose. 301 00:13:50,241 --> 00:13:52,721 Hmm. Detective, were you aware that statistically, 302 00:13:52,806 --> 00:13:55,018 the neighborhood where Riverstone is located 303 00:13:55,103 --> 00:13:58,370 sits at the bottom ten percent of New York City neighborhoods 304 00:13:58,455 --> 00:13:59,736 for crime and safety? 305 00:13:59,821 --> 00:14:01,635 Objection. Relevance? 306 00:14:01,861 --> 00:14:03,658 Seems completely relevant to me. 307 00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:04,998 Overruled. 308 00:14:05,112 --> 00:14:06,722 Witness will answer the question. 309 00:14:07,954 --> 00:14:09,455 Yes. I'm aware of that. 310 00:14:10,877 --> 00:14:14,025 And yet you never investigated this as an attempted robbery? 311 00:14:14,352 --> 00:14:17,065 Once I noticed the blood on the shoes, I-I knew that... 312 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:18,185 Isn't it possible 313 00:14:18,269 --> 00:14:22,127 that this murder was committed by a random assailant? 314 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,885 And not somebody that Mrs. Wright even knew? 315 00:14:24,975 --> 00:14:27,088 O-Objection. Calls for speculation. 316 00:14:27,173 --> 00:14:29,018 Counselor's badgering the witness. 317 00:14:30,126 --> 00:14:31,783 Uh, that's all right, Your Honor. 318 00:14:31,891 --> 00:14:33,361 I withdraw the question. 319 00:14:33,768 --> 00:14:35,166 Nothing further. 320 00:14:35,565 --> 00:14:39,307 We're close to lunch. Let's take a one-hour recess. 321 00:14:40,666 --> 00:14:42,149 Dr. Bull. 322 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,386 You look exactly like your picture on the Internet. 323 00:14:46,595 --> 00:14:47,815 Richard Newhouse. 324 00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:49,612 I'm the church's operations manager. 325 00:14:49,697 --> 00:14:50,815 Close friend of Liam's. 326 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:52,268 Ah, Mr. Newhouse. 327 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,916 This is Pastor Liam's attorney. 328 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,541 - Benjamin Colón. - Nice to meet you. 329 00:14:55,626 --> 00:14:58,267 Didn't realize they don't let the public inside anymore. 330 00:14:58,352 --> 00:14:59,791 COVID thing, I guess. 331 00:15:00,002 --> 00:15:01,489 So, how's it going in there? 332 00:15:02,416 --> 00:15:04,231 Well, we're not really at liberty to discuss it 333 00:15:04,315 --> 00:15:06,320 without Liam's permission, but frankly, 334 00:15:06,404 --> 00:15:08,191 we're still very early on in the trial. 335 00:15:08,275 --> 00:15:09,846 Okay. I understand. 336 00:15:10,059 --> 00:15:12,042 Just tell him I've been praying for him... 337 00:15:12,127 --> 00:15:13,322 A lot of us have... 338 00:15:13,407 --> 00:15:15,151 And that God's gonna get him through this. 339 00:15:15,541 --> 00:15:16,936 I'll definitely pass it on. 340 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:19,042 You know, it's actually great to see some people 341 00:15:19,127 --> 00:15:20,508 from his church here. 342 00:15:20,592 --> 00:15:22,292 Any chance you'd consider 343 00:15:22,376 --> 00:15:24,268 being a character witness for Pastor Wright? 344 00:15:24,353 --> 00:15:27,244 Are you kidding? I owe the man my life. 345 00:15:27,338 --> 00:15:30,648 Literally. He and Olivia paid for my pacemaker. 346 00:15:30,732 --> 00:15:32,408 They've been with me through everything. 347 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:34,377 Just tell me when. 348 00:15:34,838 --> 00:15:36,361 Well, we appreciate it. 349 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,408 Incoming. 350 00:15:41,231 --> 00:15:44,026 Gentlemen, so glad I caught you. Updated witness list. 351 00:15:44,111 --> 00:15:46,150 Enjoy. Wait a minute. 352 00:15:46,299 --> 00:15:49,252 You're calling a new witness right after lunch? 353 00:15:50,045 --> 00:15:51,330 How are we supposed to prepare? 354 00:15:51,415 --> 00:15:53,775 Sorry. She just came forward. I don't know what to tell you. 355 00:15:54,025 --> 00:15:55,729 So, who's Britney Lang? 356 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:58,971 The woman Olivia Wright was leaving your client for. 357 00:15:59,237 --> 00:16:00,729 Have a good lunch. 358 00:16:08,353 --> 00:16:09,774 It would have been really helpful to know. 359 00:16:09,858 --> 00:16:11,830 Olivia was seeing someone, Liam. 360 00:16:12,268 --> 00:16:13,604 I know. 361 00:16:14,602 --> 00:16:16,268 I'm sorry. It's just... 362 00:16:17,344 --> 00:16:19,650 I felt it wasn't my story to tell. 363 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,886 Olivia kept it private while she was alive. 364 00:16:22,971 --> 00:16:24,398 I didn't think it was my place to... 365 00:16:24,971 --> 00:16:27,009 We respect your integrity, Liam. 366 00:16:27,093 --> 00:16:28,533 We really do. 367 00:16:29,704 --> 00:16:32,557 But how do we explain this? How do you explain this? 368 00:16:33,752 --> 00:16:35,213 You have to understand, 369 00:16:36,146 --> 00:16:38,769 Olivia and I, we-we grew up together in a tiny town 370 00:16:38,854 --> 00:16:40,229 outside of Albany. 371 00:16:40,768 --> 00:16:43,417 Everything revolved around the church. 372 00:16:43,815 --> 00:16:45,245 My-my father was pastor, 373 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:49,213 the... values were very traditional. 374 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:52,743 Being gay, it just didn't exist. 375 00:16:53,565 --> 00:16:55,603 And then, one night, when I was 16, 376 00:16:56,126 --> 00:16:59,192 I found Olivia, my best friend, 377 00:16:59,277 --> 00:17:03,854 sitting in a... used car her dad bought her for her birthday, 378 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,666 crying her eyes out in the church parking lot. 379 00:17:07,533 --> 00:17:09,861 She told me she didn't understand why, 380 00:17:10,093 --> 00:17:12,924 but boys just left her cold. 381 00:17:13,971 --> 00:17:15,705 Girls on the other hand, 382 00:17:16,229 --> 00:17:18,057 just as she was falling asleep, 383 00:17:18,797 --> 00:17:20,588 that's what she'd be thinking about. 384 00:17:22,908 --> 00:17:25,096 I will never forget that moment. 385 00:17:26,152 --> 00:17:28,268 'Cause all I felt was relief. 386 00:17:29,588 --> 00:17:31,127 I wasn't alone. 387 00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:34,276 My father died a few years later. 388 00:17:34,361 --> 00:17:36,426 I became pastor. 389 00:17:36,565 --> 00:17:38,037 I was good at it. 390 00:17:38,432 --> 00:17:40,182 And Olivia had 391 00:17:40,267 --> 00:17:43,065 such an amazing gift for connecting with people. 392 00:17:43,424 --> 00:17:45,611 I... No one ever actually said it, 393 00:17:45,696 --> 00:17:47,610 but there was an expectation in our church 394 00:17:47,798 --> 00:17:49,128 that the pastor should be married, 395 00:17:49,213 --> 00:17:52,322 and so, that's what Olivia and I did. 396 00:17:53,808 --> 00:17:57,105 Okay, but that was 20 years ago. 397 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:59,354 You've had time to reconsider. 398 00:17:59,939 --> 00:18:01,711 People do get divorced. 399 00:18:01,955 --> 00:18:05,213 I wasn't lying when I said we spent years praying. 400 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:08,369 We did. For each other. 401 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,502 And-and when we finally accepted who we were, it just... 402 00:18:14,766 --> 00:18:16,260 it felt too late. 403 00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:19,049 I mean, the church had gotten so big. 404 00:18:19,134 --> 00:18:22,080 People... relied on us, they looked up to us. 405 00:18:23,405 --> 00:18:26,769 We-we thought if we cou... If we could just sacrifice 406 00:18:26,854 --> 00:18:28,696 a little bit of our own happiness for Riverstone, 407 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:30,096 then maybe we could... 408 00:18:33,533 --> 00:18:34,960 We understand. 409 00:18:36,876 --> 00:18:39,291 You should make your way back to the courtroom. 410 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,973 Ms. Lang. 411 00:18:46,088 --> 00:18:47,495 You contacted my office, 412 00:18:47,580 --> 00:18:49,316 suggested you might be able to shed some light 413 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,909 as to why Pastor Wright would have committed this crime. 414 00:18:51,994 --> 00:18:53,112 Is that correct? 415 00:18:53,196 --> 00:18:54,635 Y... That's correct. 416 00:18:54,838 --> 00:18:56,112 Any idea where this is going? 417 00:18:56,196 --> 00:18:57,275 None. 418 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,151 Now, before we get into all of that, could you tell the court 419 00:19:00,235 --> 00:19:03,197 the... nature of your relationship with the victim? 420 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:07,385 We were romantically involved. 421 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:11,221 And just to be clear, uh, were you and Olivia Wright, 422 00:19:11,306 --> 00:19:15,299 wife of Pastor Liam Wright, physically involved? 423 00:19:16,507 --> 00:19:18,397 We were involved in every way 424 00:19:18,482 --> 00:19:21,072 one person can be involved with another. 425 00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:24,054 We loved each other. 426 00:19:24,408 --> 00:19:26,229 And to the best of your knowledge, 427 00:19:26,314 --> 00:19:27,971 was Pastor Wright aware of this? 428 00:19:28,098 --> 00:19:30,143 Oh, he was absolutely aware of it. 429 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:33,261 The three of us spent a good deal of time together. 430 00:19:33,564 --> 00:19:35,307 Not physically. 431 00:19:36,265 --> 00:19:39,807 But Pastor Wright and Olivia had a 20-year-old connection. 432 00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,139 So if you were important to Olivia, 433 00:19:42,242 --> 00:19:44,170 you were important to Pastor Wright. 434 00:19:44,856 --> 00:19:47,068 It was just understood. 435 00:19:48,381 --> 00:19:49,560 Which brings us 436 00:19:49,645 --> 00:19:51,646 to you reaching out to my office. 437 00:19:52,778 --> 00:19:55,185 You believe Pastor Wright killed Olivia, don't you? 438 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:57,865 Objection! Calls for speculation. 439 00:19:58,183 --> 00:19:59,487 Objection sustained. 440 00:19:59,572 --> 00:20:01,639 Let's be sure and color within the lines, Counselor. 441 00:20:01,829 --> 00:20:03,615 My apologies, Your Honor. 442 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:07,569 Ms. Lang, were you surprised when you heard 443 00:20:07,654 --> 00:20:09,193 that Olivia had been killed? 444 00:20:10,528 --> 00:20:14,904 I was startled, but not surprised. 445 00:20:15,639 --> 00:20:17,674 And I wasn't surprised when I heard that Liam, was... 446 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:20,842 Uh, Pastor Wright, had been taken into custody. 447 00:20:21,252 --> 00:20:22,490 And why is that? 448 00:20:22,647 --> 00:20:24,968 Because I knew that Olivia was planning to tell Liam 449 00:20:25,053 --> 00:20:26,944 that she was going to leave him. 450 00:20:27,489 --> 00:20:29,771 That she wanted to spend her life with me. 451 00:20:30,545 --> 00:20:32,643 That she was filing for divorce. 452 00:20:34,645 --> 00:20:35,953 You attend Riverstone. 453 00:20:36,037 --> 00:20:37,586 You're a congregant. That was true before 454 00:20:37,670 --> 00:20:40,218 you even became involved with Mrs. Wright, correct? 455 00:20:40,303 --> 00:20:42,264 - Yes. - And did you ever hear 456 00:20:42,348 --> 00:20:44,527 the Wrights speak about their marriage? 457 00:20:44,611 --> 00:20:46,037 Of course. 458 00:20:46,273 --> 00:20:48,685 Pastor Wright mentioned it in his sermons, 459 00:20:48,935 --> 00:20:52,912 Olivia talked about it on her blog, uh, at church events. 460 00:20:53,358 --> 00:20:56,084 How it's important to have someone you're accountable to. 461 00:20:56,928 --> 00:20:58,709 The power of partnership. 462 00:20:59,496 --> 00:21:01,029 They talked about it all the time. 463 00:21:01,379 --> 00:21:04,472 Hmm. So as a foundational piece of their ministry, 464 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,694 it would make sense that if their marriage failed... 465 00:21:07,779 --> 00:21:10,170 For instance, if they got a divorce... 466 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,859 Then the church would fail as well? 467 00:21:12,944 --> 00:21:14,116 Objection! 468 00:21:14,201 --> 00:21:17,693 Your Honor, the prosecutor, again, 469 00:21:17,785 --> 00:21:19,623 is asking the witness to speculate. 470 00:21:19,762 --> 00:21:22,986 Sustained. Don't test me, Counselor. 471 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:26,490 Apologies, Your Honor. I have no further questions. 472 00:21:30,967 --> 00:21:32,793 Nice to meet you, Ms. Lang. 473 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:34,701 So... 474 00:21:34,883 --> 00:21:37,822 you believe Olivia Wright was contemplating 475 00:21:37,907 --> 00:21:40,693 leaving her husband Liam to start a new life with you. 476 00:21:41,146 --> 00:21:42,349 Yes. 477 00:21:42,434 --> 00:21:45,269 I see. And you believe this because...? 478 00:21:45,354 --> 00:21:47,795 We talked about it. All the time. 479 00:21:48,238 --> 00:21:50,852 Okay. When you say you talked about it, 480 00:21:50,937 --> 00:21:53,298 was it you who talked about starting a new life 481 00:21:53,383 --> 00:21:54,949 or was it Mrs. Wright? 482 00:21:56,013 --> 00:21:57,713 I see where you're going with this... 483 00:21:58,279 --> 00:22:00,165 and I resent the inference. 484 00:22:01,629 --> 00:22:02,764 Uh... 485 00:22:02,849 --> 00:22:05,333 I'm sorry. Was that your answer? 486 00:22:06,443 --> 00:22:08,310 The witness needs to answer the question. 487 00:22:08,996 --> 00:22:12,232 I'm sorry. Can you ask again? 488 00:22:12,563 --> 00:22:16,193 Yes. Yes. Uh, when you talked about starting a new life... 489 00:22:16,339 --> 00:22:19,873 It was both of us. We were talking to each other. 490 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:22,189 Hmm. And how long ago would you say 491 00:22:22,274 --> 00:22:23,592 these conversations started? 492 00:22:23,938 --> 00:22:25,812 How many months would you say this had been 493 00:22:25,897 --> 00:22:27,380 the topic of conversation? 494 00:22:28,326 --> 00:22:29,459 Five or six. 495 00:22:29,544 --> 00:22:31,070 Five or six. All right. 496 00:22:31,155 --> 00:22:32,986 And, uh, in all this time, 497 00:22:33,071 --> 00:22:34,163 to the best of your knowledge, 498 00:22:34,247 --> 00:22:37,678 did Mrs. Wright ever speak to a divorce attorney? 499 00:22:39,864 --> 00:22:41,826 Mm. Well, I don't actually know. 500 00:22:42,183 --> 00:22:43,408 Really? 501 00:22:43,623 --> 00:22:44,943 Hmm. 502 00:22:45,215 --> 00:22:46,507 Don't you think, if that had happened, 503 00:22:46,591 --> 00:22:48,318 she would have mentioned it to you? 504 00:22:51,172 --> 00:22:52,438 T-That's all right. 505 00:22:52,654 --> 00:22:54,217 Uh, let me ask another question. 506 00:22:56,764 --> 00:22:59,694 In all that time, did Mrs. Wright 507 00:22:59,779 --> 00:23:01,741 purchase you an engagement ring? 508 00:23:03,689 --> 00:23:05,381 Did you purchase her one? 509 00:23:06,513 --> 00:23:07,819 No. 510 00:23:08,045 --> 00:23:09,787 What if I told you this is the first time 511 00:23:09,872 --> 00:23:11,873 - her husband's hearing about this? - Objection! 512 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:14,197 Counsel is testifying. No foundation. 513 00:23:14,282 --> 00:23:15,962 I withdraw the question, Your Honor. 514 00:23:17,718 --> 00:23:19,636 You know, sometimes 515 00:23:20,158 --> 00:23:21,412 when people are in love, 516 00:23:21,497 --> 00:23:24,451 they say things they think the other person wants to hear. 517 00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:28,874 They say things they think will make the other person happy. 518 00:23:29,483 --> 00:23:32,061 They seem to agree with things 519 00:23:32,316 --> 00:23:34,037 they don't really agree with. 520 00:23:35,202 --> 00:23:37,053 You know what I'm talking about, don't you? 521 00:23:41,571 --> 00:23:43,100 The witness will answer. 522 00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:46,139 I suppose I do. 523 00:23:49,883 --> 00:23:51,358 Thank you. 524 00:23:51,450 --> 00:23:53,191 Nothing further, Your Honor. 525 00:23:55,930 --> 00:23:57,369 Well, here's a first. 526 00:23:57,617 --> 00:24:00,608 I have no idea what that jury is thinking. 527 00:24:00,693 --> 00:24:02,272 I know what just happened on that stand 528 00:24:02,389 --> 00:24:03,897 made a difference, 529 00:24:04,521 --> 00:24:07,658 but I'll be damned if I can see it or feel it. 530 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:09,803 I don't have mirror juror data to offer, 531 00:24:09,888 --> 00:24:12,328 but I can give you an opinion just from listening. 532 00:24:12,931 --> 00:24:14,787 I think they just don't care. 533 00:24:15,146 --> 00:24:17,456 I think they find the whole thing so sordid, 534 00:24:17,541 --> 00:24:19,241 the details no longer matter to them. 535 00:24:19,326 --> 00:24:21,375 Everyone involved is a liar of sorts. 536 00:24:21,574 --> 00:24:23,592 The victim. The accused. 537 00:24:23,677 --> 00:24:25,498 I think the jury's just numb. 538 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:35,235 Is the defense prepared to call its first witness? 539 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,475 Yes, Your Honor. 540 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,413 The defense would like to call Cole Adkins 541 00:24:38,498 --> 00:24:39,662 to the stand. 542 00:24:39,747 --> 00:24:41,436 Good morning, Mr. Adkins. 543 00:24:41,804 --> 00:24:43,381 I appreciate you being here. 544 00:24:43,945 --> 00:24:47,358 So, how long have you known the accused? 545 00:24:47,858 --> 00:24:49,412 17 months. 546 00:24:49,607 --> 00:24:52,209 And it is your testimony that on the night 547 00:24:52,294 --> 00:24:54,515 of Mrs. Wright's murder, Pastor Wright 548 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,051 was with you. 549 00:24:56,254 --> 00:24:57,387 Yes, sir. 550 00:24:57,472 --> 00:24:59,770 Liam arrived at my apartment at about 7:00 p.m. 551 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:02,051 And when did he leave? 552 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,460 Somewhere between 2:30 and 3:00 a.m. 553 00:25:04,545 --> 00:25:05,934 the following morning. 554 00:25:06,570 --> 00:25:10,325 And as it's been established by the prosecution, we know now 555 00:25:10,410 --> 00:25:12,372 that Liam's wife Olivia was attacked 556 00:25:12,457 --> 00:25:14,676 at approximately 10:43. 557 00:25:15,024 --> 00:25:18,200 So, just to be clear, 558 00:25:18,452 --> 00:25:20,370 you are saying, under oath, 559 00:25:20,455 --> 00:25:23,692 that during the time of Olivia's murder, 560 00:25:23,784 --> 00:25:25,702 Pastor Wright was with you, 561 00:25:25,934 --> 00:25:27,403 in your apartment? 562 00:25:27,488 --> 00:25:29,403 And at no point were you apart? 563 00:25:29,663 --> 00:25:30,957 That's correct. 564 00:25:31,042 --> 00:25:34,123 This is our alibi witness. Do they care? 565 00:25:34,411 --> 00:25:35,849 I told you before, Bull, 566 00:25:35,934 --> 00:25:37,809 I know they're hearing it, I just don't think 567 00:25:37,894 --> 00:25:40,123 they're allowing it to change their minds. 568 00:25:40,542 --> 00:25:42,214 Let me ask you a personal question, 569 00:25:42,299 --> 00:25:43,732 Mr. Adkins. 570 00:25:44,239 --> 00:25:47,388 Prior to the death of Liam's wife Olivia, 571 00:25:47,522 --> 00:25:48,974 prior to the media reporting 572 00:25:49,066 --> 00:25:51,771 that you would be a witness in his defense, 573 00:25:52,457 --> 00:25:54,935 did your parents know that you and he were involved? 574 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:56,794 Objection. Relevance. 575 00:25:56,879 --> 00:25:58,130 Your Honor, 576 00:25:58,215 --> 00:26:00,663 I think it's important for the jury to understand 577 00:26:00,748 --> 00:26:03,890 that... this witness coming forward 578 00:26:03,974 --> 00:26:07,146 comes at some personal and emotional cost to him. 579 00:26:08,402 --> 00:26:11,436 And I believe, in order to give this witness's testimony 580 00:26:11,521 --> 00:26:12,771 its proper due, 581 00:26:12,856 --> 00:26:14,644 it's important for the jury to understand 582 00:26:14,728 --> 00:26:17,690 the sacrifices he is making to offer it. 583 00:26:18,576 --> 00:26:20,091 Objection overruled. 584 00:26:20,947 --> 00:26:22,560 The witness may answer the question. 585 00:26:24,777 --> 00:26:26,869 No. My parents did not know 586 00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:28,373 I was involved with Pastor Wright. 587 00:26:28,911 --> 00:26:31,373 Did they know you were involved with other men? 588 00:26:32,937 --> 00:26:34,966 No. They did not. 589 00:26:35,308 --> 00:26:37,490 How about the people you work with? 590 00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:39,474 The folks you do business with? 591 00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:43,435 You are a copy editor at a major advertising agency? 592 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,482 Yeah, that's correct. And no. 593 00:26:45,746 --> 00:26:47,678 No one at work knew anything about my private life 594 00:26:47,762 --> 00:26:49,419 beyond the fact that I was single. 595 00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:51,727 - Your neighbors? - No. 596 00:26:52,123 --> 00:26:54,462 And I have to imagine that this is not the way 597 00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:57,021 you would have chosen for this information to get out. 598 00:26:58,701 --> 00:26:59,966 Absolutely not. 599 00:27:01,195 --> 00:27:02,333 Thank you. 600 00:27:02,418 --> 00:27:03,935 No further questions, Your Honor. 601 00:27:05,522 --> 00:27:06,802 Mr. Adkins. 602 00:27:08,247 --> 00:27:10,482 Is the defendant paying for your testimony today? 603 00:27:12,994 --> 00:27:14,490 No, of course not. 604 00:27:14,826 --> 00:27:18,485 Okay, but isn't it true that while he might not 605 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:20,488 be paying you directly for your testimony, 606 00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:22,373 if he went to prison, 607 00:27:22,571 --> 00:27:25,451 your lifestyle would certainly be impacted? 608 00:27:26,271 --> 00:27:28,670 Uh, no, not really. 609 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:30,672 We don't go anywhere. 610 00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:32,216 COVID. 611 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:34,638 Besides, Pastor Wright is a public figure. 612 00:27:34,723 --> 00:27:37,389 Mm. That watch you're wearing. 613 00:27:37,474 --> 00:27:39,248 It's very expensive, isn't it? 614 00:27:39,852 --> 00:27:41,279 Yeah, I believe so. 615 00:27:41,364 --> 00:27:42,759 You bought that on your own? 616 00:27:43,318 --> 00:27:46,811 No. Uh, it was a gift from Liam for Christmas. 617 00:27:46,896 --> 00:27:48,081 And I love it. 618 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:49,692 But it's not something 619 00:27:49,777 --> 00:27:51,826 that I asked for, it's not something that I needed. 620 00:27:52,086 --> 00:27:53,630 I make my own money. 621 00:27:53,927 --> 00:27:55,162 I'm sure you do. 622 00:28:02,083 --> 00:28:03,654 I have here certified copies 623 00:28:03,739 --> 00:28:06,521 of your past year's checking account statements. 624 00:28:06,819 --> 00:28:11,087 Last December you made a rather large deposit: $5,000. 625 00:28:11,179 --> 00:28:13,316 Do you mind telling the court where that money came from? 626 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,208 Objection. Your Honor, relevance. 627 00:28:16,299 --> 00:28:18,676 Mr. Cole is not on trial here. 628 00:28:18,761 --> 00:28:21,069 Defense counsel offered personal information about 629 00:28:21,153 --> 00:28:23,537 the witness's life in the hopes of persuading the jury 630 00:28:23,622 --> 00:28:25,506 that his claims about the defendant's whereabouts 631 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:27,888 on the night of the murder would be given greater weight. 632 00:28:27,973 --> 00:28:30,556 All I'm doing is trying to fill out that picture, 633 00:28:30,641 --> 00:28:32,279 trying to give the jury all the facts 634 00:28:32,364 --> 00:28:34,065 as they weigh this testimony. 635 00:28:34,958 --> 00:28:36,396 Objection overruled. 636 00:28:37,052 --> 00:28:38,873 The witness will answer the question. 637 00:28:39,303 --> 00:28:41,787 The $5,000 was from Pastor Wright. 638 00:28:42,379 --> 00:28:45,451 A loan. I wanted to move. 639 00:28:45,946 --> 00:28:48,060 I found an apartment that I loved 640 00:28:48,145 --> 00:28:50,107 and he was just trying to help. 641 00:28:50,355 --> 00:28:53,083 I didn't have the money for the security deposit, so... 642 00:28:53,752 --> 00:28:54,625 Uh... 643 00:28:54,709 --> 00:28:56,060 I've repaid most of it. 644 00:28:56,216 --> 00:28:57,647 And what about this $3,000 645 00:28:57,731 --> 00:28:58,865 two months later? 646 00:28:59,082 --> 00:29:00,652 Was that from the defendant as well? 647 00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:06,083 He encouraged me to try to get an MBA, 648 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:08,639 and it was the tuition for an online program. 649 00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:10,357 And always in cash. 650 00:29:10,522 --> 00:29:13,049 No checks, no electronic transfers. 651 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:15,099 Why do you think that is, Mr. Adkins? 652 00:29:15,467 --> 00:29:18,849 Well, he's a private person. 653 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:21,974 He values his privacy, obviously. 654 00:29:22,563 --> 00:29:25,576 And obviously, he didn't want anyone knowing about me. 655 00:29:26,123 --> 00:29:27,490 About us. 656 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:30,740 Uh, I would assume he didn't want to leave a trail. 657 00:29:32,178 --> 00:29:33,962 I suspect you're right. 658 00:29:35,671 --> 00:29:38,498 Any idea where all this money came from? 659 00:29:38,939 --> 00:29:40,845 I already told you. Liam. 660 00:29:40,930 --> 00:29:41,755 N-No, no. 661 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,294 I-I mean, his personal checking account? 662 00:29:44,465 --> 00:29:46,193 His personal savings account? 663 00:29:46,881 --> 00:29:48,233 Uh, I have no idea. 664 00:29:48,318 --> 00:29:49,452 Right. 665 00:29:49,552 --> 00:29:51,404 Hard to know when it's all cash. 666 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:55,686 No checks, no transfers, just cash. 667 00:29:56,423 --> 00:29:57,803 Okay. 668 00:29:58,022 --> 00:30:00,405 Makes sense though, right? 669 00:30:01,211 --> 00:30:03,259 If you didn't want anybody to be able to follow 670 00:30:03,344 --> 00:30:05,983 a money trail, and you had access 671 00:30:06,068 --> 00:30:09,412 to Sunday morning collection plates full of cash, 672 00:30:10,118 --> 00:30:12,522 isn't that where you'd get the money for your secret lover? 673 00:30:12,607 --> 00:30:14,612 Objection, Your Honor. 674 00:30:15,288 --> 00:30:18,469 The prosecutor is offering speculation as fact 675 00:30:18,554 --> 00:30:20,254 and then questioning the witness 676 00:30:20,339 --> 00:30:23,006 as if these insinuations deserve answers. 677 00:30:23,146 --> 00:30:25,162 I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor. 678 00:30:25,506 --> 00:30:27,076 I have nothing further. 679 00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:30,155 I've been doing this a long time, Pastor Wright, 680 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,912 and that jury is just not with us. 681 00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:35,203 They just can't seem to get past... 682 00:30:35,288 --> 00:30:36,686 The deceit. 683 00:30:37,483 --> 00:30:39,811 They just can't seem to get past the deceit. 684 00:30:39,994 --> 00:30:41,520 All the lies. 685 00:30:41,975 --> 00:30:43,397 I'm sorry. 686 00:30:43,511 --> 00:30:44,865 We'd put you on the stand 687 00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:46,650 if we thought it would make a difference. 688 00:30:46,778 --> 00:30:48,696 But we can't imagine what you'd say 689 00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:50,451 that hasn't already been said. 690 00:30:52,621 --> 00:30:53,973 I understand. 691 00:30:54,201 --> 00:30:56,319 Tomorrow we will rest our case, 692 00:30:56,905 --> 00:31:00,476 and we will make as passionate a closing argument as we can 693 00:31:00,561 --> 00:31:02,108 and then... And then the jury 694 00:31:02,201 --> 00:31:04,811 and God will have their say. 695 00:31:05,126 --> 00:31:07,225 And whatever it is, it will be just. 696 00:31:08,365 --> 00:31:10,674 Not a day went by when I didn't think about the fact 697 00:31:10,758 --> 00:31:12,373 that I wasn't fooling God. 698 00:31:12,729 --> 00:31:15,201 That as well-intentioned as it might have seemed, 699 00:31:16,373 --> 00:31:18,100 my path was cowardly. 700 00:31:18,786 --> 00:31:20,194 My lack of honesty 701 00:31:21,429 --> 00:31:24,780 made a mockery of those I was trying to help. 702 00:31:25,976 --> 00:31:27,897 Prison van is here. 703 00:31:28,037 --> 00:31:29,545 I'll be right out. 704 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:31,780 Gentlemen, 705 00:31:32,757 --> 00:31:35,842 I'm grateful for all you've attempted on my behalf. 706 00:31:36,959 --> 00:31:38,787 See you in the morning. 707 00:31:43,121 --> 00:31:44,865 Marissa, what's up? 708 00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:48,337 Of course. I can definitely head back to the office. 709 00:31:48,492 --> 00:31:50,014 Let me check with Benny. 710 00:31:51,582 --> 00:31:53,459 After the A.D.A. cross-examined Cole, 711 00:31:53,544 --> 00:31:55,983 Taylor went through the church's financial records again. 712 00:31:56,195 --> 00:31:57,774 And at least as far as we can tell, 713 00:31:57,858 --> 00:31:59,131 Liam wasn't stealing, 714 00:31:59,216 --> 00:32:01,056 but it looks like someone else might have been. 715 00:32:01,436 --> 00:32:04,092 So, Taylor found these on Olivia's computer. 716 00:32:04,177 --> 00:32:05,789 They're the weekly collection plate totals 717 00:32:05,873 --> 00:32:07,166 for the entire year. 718 00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:08,725 Wow. 719 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:10,902 Looks like Riverstone was quite the enterprise, 720 00:32:11,244 --> 00:32:13,358 averaging about $40,000 a week. 721 00:32:13,665 --> 00:32:16,541 Give or take. Every week hovers around there. 722 00:32:16,626 --> 00:32:17,889 Every week but two. 723 00:32:17,974 --> 00:32:21,131 On these two Sundays, there was a big spike. 724 00:32:21,233 --> 00:32:23,592 They actually took in almost $50,000. 725 00:32:23,677 --> 00:32:25,787 Well, that doesn't sound like someone was skimming, 726 00:32:26,051 --> 00:32:28,467 it sounds like a big donor dropped in. 727 00:32:28,552 --> 00:32:30,186 That's exactly what we thought. 728 00:32:30,271 --> 00:32:32,364 But then I took a closer look at what Olivia wrote 729 00:32:32,449 --> 00:32:34,451 in the notes column for those two entries. 730 00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:40,186 "R.N. Snowstorm and R.N. Baptism." 731 00:32:40,409 --> 00:32:42,205 The first time I went through it, I thought Olivia 732 00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:44,584 was just trying to figure out who the big donor was. 733 00:32:44,669 --> 00:32:47,240 But then I realized there was no snowstorm in New York 734 00:32:47,325 --> 00:32:49,983 the first week and no baptism at the church on the other. 735 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,819 So who's R.N.? 736 00:32:53,381 --> 00:32:55,014 We think it's Richard Newhouse. 737 00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:56,990 Oh, he's the church's 738 00:32:57,075 --> 00:32:58,651 operations manager. 739 00:32:58,736 --> 00:33:00,069 We met him at the courthouse. 740 00:33:00,154 --> 00:33:02,944 We had him lined up as one of Liam's character witnesses. 741 00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:05,310 He's also someone that Liam personally mentored 742 00:33:05,395 --> 00:33:06,850 for the last six years. 743 00:33:06,935 --> 00:33:09,053 Apparently, Richard was struggling with alcohol 744 00:33:09,138 --> 00:33:10,780 and having difficultly holding down a job, 745 00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:13,579 that is, until Liam gave him one. 746 00:33:13,889 --> 00:33:15,311 Another interesting fact, 747 00:33:15,396 --> 00:33:17,880 as operations manager, one of his duties 748 00:33:17,965 --> 00:33:20,274 was to count and deposit the weekly collection. 749 00:33:20,602 --> 00:33:22,227 We think he was consistently 750 00:33:22,312 --> 00:33:24,648 skimming money and that's why in the weeks he wasn't there, 751 00:33:24,733 --> 00:33:27,201 like when he went to his nephew's baptism in Florida 752 00:33:27,286 --> 00:33:29,782 and when he got caught in a snowstorm in Chicago, 753 00:33:29,887 --> 00:33:32,414 the collections were over 25% higher. 754 00:33:33,164 --> 00:33:35,602 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate the money 755 00:33:35,686 --> 00:33:37,102 in any of his accounts yet. 756 00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:39,994 Here's the thing, though: Olivia created this spreadsheet 757 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,446 at 6:20 p.m. on the night of her murder. 758 00:33:42,531 --> 00:33:44,871 It's one of the last things she did before she was killed. 759 00:33:44,956 --> 00:33:46,164 Aha. 760 00:33:46,249 --> 00:33:49,646 So the theory is that Olivia discovered what he was up to, 761 00:33:49,731 --> 00:33:52,037 she went searching for him, found him in the church corridor 762 00:33:52,121 --> 00:33:54,130 - and confronted him. - And in a moment of panic, 763 00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:57,075 Richard killed her to keep it all silent. 764 00:33:57,284 --> 00:33:58,646 Something like that. 765 00:33:58,731 --> 00:34:00,426 The thing we can't figure out is, 766 00:34:00,511 --> 00:34:02,603 why wouldn't Olivia have told Liam about it? 767 00:34:02,717 --> 00:34:04,287 If they were as close as Liam says, 768 00:34:04,372 --> 00:34:06,420 this seems like something you'd share. 769 00:34:07,215 --> 00:34:08,545 Redemption. 770 00:34:09,277 --> 00:34:12,595 Olivia and Liam understood the power of a second chance. 771 00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:14,458 Olivia wanted to give Richard a second chance, 772 00:34:14,542 --> 00:34:17,330 an opportunity to come clean with Liam before she told him. 773 00:34:17,415 --> 00:34:19,027 And instead he kills her. 774 00:34:19,319 --> 00:34:21,760 The wife of the man that bought him a pacemaker. 775 00:34:21,845 --> 00:34:24,363 Please tell me Richard does not have an alibi. 776 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:26,748 He claims he was in his office working late, 777 00:34:26,832 --> 00:34:28,285 catching up on paperwork. 778 00:34:32,221 --> 00:34:33,598 You're not saying anything. 779 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:35,840 Well, we don't know. 780 00:34:35,925 --> 00:34:37,843 We don't know that Olivia confronted Richard, 781 00:34:37,928 --> 00:34:39,309 we don't know that he killed her. 782 00:34:39,394 --> 00:34:42,189 We don't know that Richard was embezzling any money. 783 00:34:42,274 --> 00:34:44,863 And this jury is so clearly not with us... 784 00:34:46,323 --> 00:34:48,005 I don't see how we're gonna convince any of them 785 00:34:48,089 --> 00:34:49,598 that Liam's innocent 786 00:34:49,865 --> 00:34:53,035 unless we can tie Richard to the crime scene. 787 00:34:54,765 --> 00:34:56,395 I may have an idea. 788 00:34:57,733 --> 00:34:59,259 What kind of idea? 789 00:34:59,381 --> 00:35:01,402 You ever read "The Tell-Tale Heart"? 790 00:35:07,418 --> 00:35:10,043 Now, Mr. Newhouse, could you please 791 00:35:10,128 --> 00:35:13,738 tell the court your relationship to the accused? 792 00:35:13,934 --> 00:35:15,876 We work together. We're friends. 793 00:35:16,074 --> 00:35:18,052 I guess I'm also his employee. 794 00:35:18,293 --> 00:35:19,706 I'm operations manager 795 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:21,527 - at the Riverstone Church. - Hmm. 796 00:35:21,612 --> 00:35:25,794 And as operations manager, isn't it one of your duties to, uh, 797 00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:30,010 collect, count and deposit the weekly offerings? 798 00:35:30,203 --> 00:35:32,761 The, uh, collection plates that are passed around 799 00:35:32,846 --> 00:35:34,223 during church services? 800 00:35:34,308 --> 00:35:35,512 Yes, it is. 801 00:35:35,597 --> 00:35:37,129 Very good, very good. 802 00:35:37,214 --> 00:35:39,059 Let me ask you another question. 803 00:35:40,015 --> 00:35:42,848 Do you have any reason to believe that Pastor Wright 804 00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:46,896 was, uh, somehow stealing money from these offerings? 805 00:35:47,339 --> 00:35:49,613 No, I do not. Not at all. 806 00:35:49,992 --> 00:35:51,941 If you knew Pastor Wright, you would know 807 00:35:52,026 --> 00:35:53,566 what an absurd assumption that is. 808 00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:55,848 Uh, objection. Calls for speculation. 809 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:57,934 I withdraw the question, Your Honor. 810 00:35:58,482 --> 00:35:59,661 The jury will ignore the question 811 00:35:59,745 --> 00:36:01,160 and the witness's response. 812 00:36:01,245 --> 00:36:02,481 Next question. 813 00:36:02,567 --> 00:36:05,934 Now, Mr. Newhouse, are you aware 814 00:36:06,019 --> 00:36:08,024 that the late Olivia Wright suspected that someone 815 00:36:08,109 --> 00:36:11,463 was stealing from the church, embezzling money 816 00:36:11,548 --> 00:36:13,481 from the church, that she felt strongly 817 00:36:13,566 --> 00:36:17,637 that there were inconsistencies in the tabulation 818 00:36:17,722 --> 00:36:20,249 and recordings of the weekly collections? 819 00:36:20,737 --> 00:36:23,449 No. She certainly never discussed 820 00:36:23,534 --> 00:36:25,623 - anything like that with me. - Hmm. 821 00:36:27,256 --> 00:36:29,870 Mr. Newhouse, what was your salary at Riverstone? 822 00:36:30,023 --> 00:36:31,832 Objection. Mr. Newhouse's salary 823 00:36:31,917 --> 00:36:34,285 is in no way relevant to the case at hand. 824 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:36,457 Your Honor, I promise the relevance will become 825 00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,731 very clear very soon. 826 00:36:38,825 --> 00:36:40,754 Get to it quick, Mr. Colón. 827 00:36:41,306 --> 00:36:42,658 Overruled. 828 00:36:43,207 --> 00:36:44,973 Again, Mr. Newhouse, 829 00:36:45,058 --> 00:36:46,598 what is your annual salary? 830 00:36:47,269 --> 00:36:50,797 This past year, approximately $75,000 dollars. 831 00:36:50,881 --> 00:36:52,512 Hmm. $75,000. 832 00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:54,027 Now, in New York City, 833 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:57,348 $75,000 doesn't go that far, does it? 834 00:36:57,539 --> 00:36:59,003 - It's a church. - Ah. 835 00:36:59,129 --> 00:37:01,961 I don't preach, but I do think of the work 836 00:37:02,046 --> 00:37:03,355 as something of a calling. 837 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,004 Uh, you don't get into it to get rich. 838 00:37:06,089 --> 00:37:08,043 My wife and I make do. 839 00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:10,410 Hmm. So we hear. 840 00:37:16,605 --> 00:37:18,785 What I meant is, we've been speaking 841 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:20,048 with some of your friends 842 00:37:20,133 --> 00:37:22,402 and fellow congregants at Riverstone, 843 00:37:22,487 --> 00:37:24,559 and apparently, even though 844 00:37:24,644 --> 00:37:26,824 your wife is a stay-at-home mother, 845 00:37:26,909 --> 00:37:30,606 you've been able to afford a mortgage, 846 00:37:30,845 --> 00:37:33,198 private school tuition for both of your children, 847 00:37:33,283 --> 00:37:37,316 and not one, but two overseas vacations 848 00:37:37,406 --> 00:37:39,176 this year, isn't that right? 849 00:37:39,408 --> 00:37:40,824 We budget. 850 00:37:41,235 --> 00:37:44,387 Uh, and... I-I'm not proud to admit this, 851 00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:47,316 but on occasion, my wife's parents help out. 852 00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,488 Jury's leaning forward. 853 00:37:49,957 --> 00:37:51,941 I can hear the sounds of minds changing. 854 00:37:52,026 --> 00:37:54,176 On the night of Olivia Wright's murder, 855 00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:57,520 the night her throat was cut in the church hall, 856 00:37:58,649 --> 00:37:59,949 where were you? 857 00:38:00,948 --> 00:38:02,731 I was two floors away. 858 00:38:02,997 --> 00:38:04,668 I was in my office. 859 00:38:04,753 --> 00:38:08,090 It was the end of the month. I had a lot of data entry due. 860 00:38:08,175 --> 00:38:10,770 Uh, deposit slip reconciliation. 861 00:38:10,855 --> 00:38:12,338 Uh, things like that. 862 00:38:12,743 --> 00:38:13,856 Things like that. 863 00:38:14,989 --> 00:38:16,395 Got it. 864 00:38:17,255 --> 00:38:20,801 Your Honor, we'd like to offer into evidence... 865 00:38:25,063 --> 00:38:28,012 Mr. Newhouse's medical records. 866 00:38:28,404 --> 00:38:31,309 Specifically, the data transmission 867 00:38:31,394 --> 00:38:33,504 from his pacemaker to his cardiologist. 868 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:34,543 Mr. Newhouse, 869 00:38:34,628 --> 00:38:36,496 are you aware that your pacemaker 870 00:38:36,589 --> 00:38:38,589 not only records your heart rate, 871 00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,714 but matches your heart rate to a specific time? 872 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:44,128 I wasn't aware. No. 873 00:38:44,324 --> 00:38:46,362 The miracles of modern medicine. 874 00:38:46,692 --> 00:38:48,823 Now, did you know 875 00:38:48,908 --> 00:38:53,042 your resting heart rate is 77 beats per minute? 876 00:38:53,232 --> 00:38:55,862 Ah. That's a little on the high side. 877 00:38:56,247 --> 00:38:58,433 Now, I mention that because... 878 00:38:58,518 --> 00:39:02,425 at 10:32 p.m. on the night of Olivia Wright's murder, 879 00:39:02,510 --> 00:39:07,190 your heart rate elevated to 108 bpm for about seven minutes. 880 00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:11,144 Now, that's quite high for someone doing data entry. 881 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,753 Actually, probably more consistent 882 00:39:14,838 --> 00:39:19,683 with someone being confronted for possibly embezzling funds. 883 00:39:23,427 --> 00:39:25,519 Is that what happened, Mr. Newhouse? 884 00:39:26,591 --> 00:39:28,693 Did Olivia find you in the church hall 885 00:39:28,778 --> 00:39:31,051 and ask you to make sense of all the shortfalls 886 00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:33,520 that occurred week after week 887 00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:35,497 except when you were out of town? 888 00:39:36,394 --> 00:39:38,317 I don't know what you're talking about. 889 00:39:38,593 --> 00:39:41,077 Like I said, I was in my office. 890 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:43,630 As for my heart rate, 891 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,778 I care deeply about my work. 892 00:39:47,356 --> 00:39:49,286 I-I get excited when I realize 893 00:39:49,408 --> 00:39:51,804 there are problems I can't solve. 894 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:53,551 Whatever you say, sir. 895 00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:57,055 But then we see an even bigger jump in your heart rate 896 00:39:57,147 --> 00:40:01,067 to 121 bpm for the next three minutes. 897 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,614 The same heart rate one would expect 898 00:40:04,699 --> 00:40:07,762 if someone was running to the church kitchen. 899 00:40:08,383 --> 00:40:09,953 To find a knife, perhaps. 900 00:40:10,076 --> 00:40:12,083 I was in my office. 901 00:40:12,168 --> 00:40:14,434 Heard you the first time, Mr. Newhouse. 902 00:40:15,598 --> 00:40:17,458 But then, we see an even bigger jump 903 00:40:17,543 --> 00:40:21,067 to 141 bpm at 10:43. 904 00:40:23,378 --> 00:40:25,688 Right around the time Olivia Wright's watch 905 00:40:25,779 --> 00:40:28,590 indicates she was having her throat cut. 906 00:40:34,141 --> 00:40:36,145 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 907 00:40:36,756 --> 00:40:39,231 Although I'm reasonably sure the police will. 908 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:00,317 I just don't understand. 909 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,520 He was a friend. 910 00:41:02,959 --> 00:41:05,090 I brought him into the church. 911 00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:08,619 If she had told me, maybe I could have stopped it. 912 00:41:08,704 --> 00:41:10,231 Stopped all of it. 913 00:41:10,591 --> 00:41:13,090 Well, she wanted to give him a chance. 914 00:41:13,184 --> 00:41:15,711 A chance to tell you, a chance to make it right. 915 00:41:15,972 --> 00:41:19,114 Unfortunately, those were not things he was interested in. 916 00:41:20,017 --> 00:41:21,587 So what now? 917 00:41:21,828 --> 00:41:23,700 Will you go back to Riverstone? 918 00:41:24,458 --> 00:41:27,070 I don't know if Riverstone can survive this. 919 00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:32,947 But if it doesn't, maybe it's just God's way 920 00:41:33,032 --> 00:41:35,278 of telling me that it's time to move on. 921 00:41:36,614 --> 00:41:39,294 Who knows? Maybe I'll start my own church. 922 00:41:39,973 --> 00:41:43,551 One where I can be myself, my true self. 923 00:41:45,568 --> 00:41:46,965 The worst part is, 924 00:41:47,917 --> 00:41:49,574 Olivia would have been the perfect partner 925 00:41:49,658 --> 00:41:51,094 to start it with. 926 00:41:53,662 --> 00:41:54,912 Thank you, gentlemen. 927 00:41:54,997 --> 00:41:56,193 Pastor Wright. 928 00:41:56,581 --> 00:41:58,365 Let us know where you land. 929 00:42:03,366 --> 00:42:05,066 So, what are you thinking? 930 00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,201 I don't know. 931 00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:09,865 Just hoping he's wrong. 932 00:42:10,673 --> 00:42:12,904 That his church does take him back. 933 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,545 That they'll realize that both Liams 934 00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:17,679 are the real Pastor Wright. 935 00:42:17,764 --> 00:42:19,740 That he truly did love his wife. 936 00:42:20,633 --> 00:42:22,677 That he truly did love his church. 937 00:42:23,987 --> 00:42:26,623 He just wasn't so crazy about himself. 938 00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:30,099 Captioning sponsored by CBS. 939 00:42:30,341 --> 00:42:32,647 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 940 00:42:32,732 --> 00:42:34,920 Sync corrections by srjanapala 70674

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