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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,435 --> 00:00:03,202 Did you die in this house? 2 00:00:04,972 --> 00:00:06,105 Who are you? 3 00:00:06,107 --> 00:00:07,373 [ beeping ] 4 00:00:07,375 --> 00:00:09,108 that thing is going off. 5 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:11,010 [ beeping continues ] 6 00:00:11,012 --> 00:00:18,517 ♪♪ 7 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:21,186 jack: Is this place a portal to hell? 8 00:00:21,188 --> 00:00:22,688 [ cawing ] 9 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:23,856 -[ grunts ] -[ cries out ] 10 00:00:23,858 --> 00:00:25,324 that's bones. 11 00:00:25,326 --> 00:00:26,859 [ suspenseful music plays ] 12 00:00:26,861 --> 00:00:28,027 [ child giggling ] 13 00:00:28,029 --> 00:00:29,561 [ beeping ] serious? 14 00:00:29,563 --> 00:00:31,363 [ asphyxiating ] 15 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:33,866 ♪♪ 16 00:00:33,868 --> 00:00:35,667 katrina: He believes that you're demonic... 17 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:36,869 [ cawing ] 18 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:39,004 ...So this should really piss you off. 19 00:00:39,006 --> 00:00:40,806 [ bell tolling ] 20 00:00:40,808 --> 00:00:41,974 [ laughing ] 21 00:00:41,976 --> 00:00:44,309 [ sinister music plays ] 22 00:00:44,311 --> 00:00:46,645 [ voices exhaling ] 23 00:00:46,647 --> 00:00:52,684 ♪♪ 24 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:54,953 so we're in denver, colorado, and we are going to be 25 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:57,689 investigating the king of haunted houses, 26 00:00:57,691 --> 00:00:59,925 the croke-patterson mansion. Yeah. 27 00:00:59,927 --> 00:01:02,428 This place has a really long history 28 00:01:02,430 --> 00:01:05,931 of very strange and kind of dark occurrences 29 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,100 connected to the families that own this property. 30 00:01:08,102 --> 00:01:10,169 Yeah, it kind of seems like every family that's 31 00:01:10,171 --> 00:01:13,105 lived there has had some crazy misfortune 32 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:14,873 to the point where, I mean, everybody is dying, 33 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:16,475 they're losing all their money. 34 00:01:16,477 --> 00:01:18,010 And a lot of people attribute this 35 00:01:18,012 --> 00:01:20,312 to either weird energy in the house 36 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:21,480 or even a haunting. 37 00:01:21,482 --> 00:01:23,515 So, you know, what's with this place? 38 00:01:23,517 --> 00:01:24,716 Is there a portal? 39 00:01:24,718 --> 00:01:27,086 Is it just plain haunted? What's the deal? 40 00:01:27,088 --> 00:01:29,655 So I guess more to be revealed. 41 00:01:29,657 --> 00:01:30,689 Let's do it. 42 00:01:30,691 --> 00:01:37,162 ♪♪ 43 00:01:37,164 --> 00:01:39,031 so croke-patterson. 44 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:42,134 This dislocation has never been investigated for tv. 45 00:01:42,136 --> 00:01:43,669 Yeah. I want to know 46 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:46,939 who gave it the name "the king of haunted houses" 47 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:50,876 and what transpired for them to designate it that title. 48 00:01:54,348 --> 00:01:55,747 We go into a lot of these places, 49 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:57,516 and people are like, "this person died, 50 00:01:57,518 --> 00:01:59,351 that person died, then this happened." 51 00:01:59,353 --> 00:02:01,520 and when you start digging into it, 52 00:02:01,522 --> 00:02:03,922 there's no basis for it at all. 53 00:02:03,924 --> 00:02:05,657 What's interesting about this property 54 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:08,894 is a lot of these "rumors" are actually backed up 55 00:02:08,896 --> 00:02:10,362 with fact and news articles 56 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:12,164 and people who actually did live and die here. 57 00:02:12,166 --> 00:02:13,765 Yeah. So going through 58 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:16,902 the property records gives us a really good timeline. 59 00:02:16,904 --> 00:02:19,738 The croke family built it in 1890. 60 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:23,008 And within six months of having it built, 61 00:02:23,010 --> 00:02:25,444 the market crashed. 62 00:02:25,446 --> 00:02:28,881 Three years later, in 1893, a patterson family moves in. 63 00:02:28,883 --> 00:02:31,383 So that's why we have the name croke-patterson. 64 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:33,418 A year later, their daughter died. 65 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:36,588 After that, the wife becomes ill, and she dies. 66 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:38,090 And then patterson has a heart attack 67 00:02:38,092 --> 00:02:40,292 and dies in the house. 68 00:02:40,294 --> 00:02:41,326 Wow. 69 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:43,095 After that, we do see a family there, 70 00:02:43,097 --> 00:02:46,265 a dr. Sudan and his family. 71 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:50,035 They take over, and then the wife commits suicide in 1950. 72 00:02:50,037 --> 00:02:51,703 Just seems like every family that moves in 73 00:02:51,705 --> 00:02:54,606 gets cursed by this place or by something. 74 00:02:54,608 --> 00:02:55,874 That's the thing, too, 75 00:02:55,876 --> 00:02:57,309 because we are talking about a time period, 76 00:02:57,311 --> 00:02:59,378 late 1800s, early 1900s, 77 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:01,413 spiritualism was huge. Yeah. 78 00:03:01,415 --> 00:03:04,049 And seances were done for fun. 79 00:03:04,051 --> 00:03:06,018 They were like the thing to do on a Saturday night. 80 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:07,119 Yeah. 81 00:03:07,121 --> 00:03:08,453 And then that brings up the question, 82 00:03:08,455 --> 00:03:11,023 did they bring something in or stir something up? 83 00:03:12,393 --> 00:03:15,928 Does that have anything to do with the energy on the property, 84 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:17,529 the building? 85 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:19,765 Did somebody open up a portal? 86 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:24,169 Or is it just strange string of weird occurrences that happened? 87 00:03:24,171 --> 00:03:26,305 Yeah. 88 00:03:26,307 --> 00:03:27,372 Ooh. 89 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:29,908 What the... This is it? 90 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:32,110 Wow. 91 00:03:32,112 --> 00:03:33,679 What the [bleep] 92 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:35,881 wow. 93 00:03:35,883 --> 00:03:39,818 ♪♪ 94 00:03:39,820 --> 00:03:41,653 wow. 95 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:49,361 ♪♪ 96 00:03:49,363 --> 00:03:51,597 should we disembark and go meet chris? 97 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:52,931 Let's go meet chris. 98 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,700 So we're gonna meet with the owner, chris, 99 00:03:54,702 --> 00:03:56,435 and do a bit of a baseline walk through. 100 00:03:56,437 --> 00:03:58,136 This place does seem like it has some kind of 101 00:03:58,138 --> 00:03:59,705 curse associated with it. 102 00:03:59,707 --> 00:04:02,808 It's like the world's worst luck ever. 103 00:04:02,810 --> 00:04:05,277 I mean, like, what family has lived here 104 00:04:05,279 --> 00:04:07,579 and owned this place and been like -- 105 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:10,215 come out the other side better? 106 00:04:10,217 --> 00:04:11,149 -Hi. -Hi. 107 00:04:11,151 --> 00:04:12,317 Welcome to the patterson inn. 108 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:13,252 Thank you. You're chris? 109 00:04:13,254 --> 00:04:14,286 I'm chris. Nice to meet you. 110 00:04:14,288 --> 00:04:15,387 I'm katrina. Hi. 111 00:04:15,389 --> 00:04:16,755 Hey. How's it going? Hi. Nice to meet you. 112 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:17,889 I'm jack. 113 00:04:17,891 --> 00:04:18,924 Let me help you with your bags. 114 00:04:18,926 --> 00:04:20,058 Oh, yeah. Thank you. 115 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:22,928 So this is a stunning building. 116 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:24,696 Thank you. I have to say, it's gorgeous. 117 00:04:24,698 --> 00:04:26,865 How did you come about owning? 118 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:29,268 Nine years ago, I flew out to denver 119 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:30,736 to look at this abandoned building. 120 00:04:30,738 --> 00:04:33,038 I stood right here, and I looked at the house, and I said, 121 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,374 "I want to turn you into a bed and breakfast." 122 00:04:35,376 --> 00:04:38,243 and my first paranormal experience was a ghost 123 00:04:38,245 --> 00:04:40,045 up there in this tower. 124 00:04:40,047 --> 00:04:42,481 And she said, like she was standing next to me, 125 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:44,349 "get off the [bleep] grass." 126 00:04:44,351 --> 00:04:45,584 jack: Were you stood on the grass? 127 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:47,119 Yeah, the path wasn't here yet. 128 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:48,487 It was still like a little hill. 129 00:04:48,489 --> 00:04:50,689 And I looked down. My foot was on the grass. 130 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,624 But that was my very first experience. 131 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:55,260 How many paranormal experiences have you had in this place? 132 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:56,695 Personally, I've had two. 133 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:57,996 Okay. 134 00:04:57,998 --> 00:05:01,033 So the house either picks you or it runs you. 135 00:05:01,035 --> 00:05:02,234 And so far, so good. 136 00:05:02,236 --> 00:05:03,201 -Okay. -Interesting. 137 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:05,037 Well, let's go on the tour. 138 00:05:05,039 --> 00:05:11,310 ♪♪ 139 00:05:11,312 --> 00:05:12,444 this room is original. 140 00:05:12,446 --> 00:05:13,779 We'll talk about it more when we go upstairs. 141 00:05:13,781 --> 00:05:14,813 I'll show you some of the paintings, 142 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:16,048 then some of the stories. 143 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:18,483 Do people say they see something on the stairs? 144 00:05:18,485 --> 00:05:20,252 I've heard that before. 145 00:05:20,254 --> 00:05:23,255 When we first walked in, I got drawn to the stairs. 146 00:05:23,257 --> 00:05:25,524 When I looked at the landing, I kind of saw something like 147 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:27,659 a figure that looked distorted. 148 00:05:28,796 --> 00:05:30,395 A few months ago, I had a friend and his girlfriend 149 00:05:30,397 --> 00:05:31,530 stay here at the hotel, 150 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:33,532 and they went up the stairs that night. 151 00:05:33,534 --> 00:05:35,767 And when they were at breakfast the next morning, 152 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:37,302 I asked them how did they sleep, was everything okay? 153 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:38,770 And they both looked at each other, 154 00:05:38,772 --> 00:05:40,439 and he goes, "well, I'm pretty sure 155 00:05:40,441 --> 00:05:42,674 somebody followed us up the stairs last night." 156 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:43,542 mm. And they were the only ones 157 00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:44,609 in the house. 158 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:45,677 And she looked at him, and she goes, 159 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:46,912 "I thought that, too." 160 00:05:46,914 --> 00:05:48,013 they didn't want to talk about it 161 00:05:48,015 --> 00:05:49,448 until the next morning. Oh. 162 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:52,184 I'm not surprised that people feel like somebody is there. 163 00:05:52,186 --> 00:05:53,852 What my experience was, I don't know. 164 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:56,755 I can't really say, but it definitely got my attention. 165 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:59,858 I don't know who it is. And I'm hoping you find out. 166 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:05,230 This mirror has been here since the beginning. 167 00:06:05,232 --> 00:06:08,967 What I love about it is that it's had a view of everyone 168 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:11,570 who's passed through this house for 127 years. 169 00:06:11,572 --> 00:06:12,871 Hm. 170 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:17,542 This is just the gateway to this extraordinary house 171 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:19,444 and its legacy and its history. 172 00:06:19,446 --> 00:06:20,946 Has anybody ever said that they see anything 173 00:06:20,948 --> 00:06:22,013 come out of it? 174 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:23,815 I have not heard that. 175 00:06:23,817 --> 00:06:24,916 I had... 176 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:26,017 [ beeping ] 177 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:27,386 hm? 178 00:06:29,323 --> 00:06:31,289 I haven't heard that in the two years I've been here. 179 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:32,724 -Yeah. -Other than this just 180 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,426 awkward feeling when people stand in front of it. 181 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:36,695 -Yeah. -So we're gonna start here. 182 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:39,131 This is da vinci. 183 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,032 [ beeping ] 184 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:42,134 it keeps popping off. 185 00:06:42,136 --> 00:06:44,302 I don't know what the deal is, but... 186 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:49,241 ♪♪ 187 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:51,810 this is a fairly active room. 188 00:06:51,812 --> 00:06:53,378 One particular guest told me a story. 189 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:55,313 She wore her headphones because her husband snored. 190 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:56,181 [ chuckles ] 191 00:06:56,183 --> 00:06:57,816 and she said that she was 192 00:06:57,818 --> 00:07:02,154 very conscious of a person trying to whisper in her ear. 193 00:07:02,156 --> 00:07:03,755 And because she was wearing the headphones, 194 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:06,224 she actually said they were blowing in her ear, 195 00:07:06,226 --> 00:07:07,993 like someone's trying to get your attention. 196 00:07:07,995 --> 00:07:09,861 Hm. Interesting. 197 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,230 There's a great picture here on the fireplace 198 00:07:12,232 --> 00:07:14,199 that shows the patterson family, 199 00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:15,667 their first christmas here in the house... 200 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:17,836 Wow. ...In 1893. 201 00:07:17,838 --> 00:07:19,304 Oh, that's them there. You'll see the curtain. 202 00:07:19,306 --> 00:07:20,772 That's how you know which room we're in. 203 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:24,443 This is as it was, three, when the pattersons lived here. 204 00:07:24,445 --> 00:07:25,377 Wow. 205 00:07:25,379 --> 00:07:26,778 [ beeping ] 206 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,381 -okay. -Was that the emf? 207 00:07:29,383 --> 00:07:31,917 Jack: Yeah, it's the mel on it. 208 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:34,219 [ beeping continues ] 209 00:07:34,221 --> 00:07:35,787 the mel meter was acting up. 210 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:37,155 It definitely was anomalous, 211 00:07:37,157 --> 00:07:40,192 and there were a couple spaces that, when it was in, 212 00:07:40,194 --> 00:07:41,860 it was just getting triggered a lot. 213 00:07:41,862 --> 00:07:45,297 I think we are inadvertently digging into these deaths. 214 00:07:45,299 --> 00:07:48,166 Are they actually the spirits of the residents of this place? 215 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:49,468 Is it something we don't know about? 216 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:51,203 Was there something sinister going on here? 217 00:07:51,205 --> 00:07:52,771 I don't know. 218 00:07:52,773 --> 00:08:00,612 ♪♪ 219 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:02,747 so I have a personal experience in this room. 220 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:04,716 Okay. It was a little over 221 00:08:04,718 --> 00:08:05,817 a year ago. 222 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:07,252 Sitting down here, I had a bartender 223 00:08:07,254 --> 00:08:10,255 working that day, and I told him my long term plan 224 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:12,657 for the house, and there was a flash of light. 225 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:14,926 And both the bartender and I jump out of the chairs. 226 00:08:14,928 --> 00:08:16,962 We go looking for the light. It was a ball. 227 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:18,396 Bright orb right here. 228 00:08:18,398 --> 00:08:20,599 Inside the doorway. The door was open. 229 00:08:20,601 --> 00:08:23,335 And we looked everywhere. We looked in the hallway. 230 00:08:24,771 --> 00:08:26,104 I was actually sitting right here, 231 00:08:26,106 --> 00:08:28,573 so I saw the light right there in that mirror. 232 00:08:28,575 --> 00:08:30,408 So you saw it, the reflection on it. Wow. 233 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:32,344 So I saw it through the mirror, and the bartender was 234 00:08:32,346 --> 00:08:34,913 looking right at it. That's interesting. Hm. 235 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:37,616 How long ago was this, chris? 236 00:08:37,618 --> 00:08:40,752 It was October of 2018. 237 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:43,088 Alright. Where do we go from here? 238 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:45,257 Let's go. We're gonna go upstairs. 239 00:08:45,259 --> 00:08:47,692 [ beeping ] 240 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:53,131 ♪♪ 241 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:55,267 hm. That's weird. 242 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:57,969 ♪♪ 243 00:08:57,971 --> 00:08:59,938 [ floor boards creaking ] 244 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:05,310 ♪♪ 245 00:09:05,312 --> 00:09:07,546 this is the staircase, of course, where I told you 246 00:09:07,548 --> 00:09:09,414 my friend recently felt like someone 247 00:09:09,416 --> 00:09:10,549 walked up behind them. 248 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:11,516 Yeah. 249 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:12,951 And so you'll be here overnight. 250 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:13,985 See what your experience is. 251 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:15,887 Yeah. I'm not surprised about that. 252 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:17,455 You can feel it when you go up the steps. 253 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:19,024 Anything, though, historically that we know 254 00:09:19,026 --> 00:09:20,792 about the second floor as far as deaths? 255 00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:22,127 Yes, there was. 256 00:09:22,129 --> 00:09:25,497 Mrs. Patterson passes away likely in this room. 257 00:09:25,499 --> 00:09:27,432 She died in this house in 1904. 258 00:09:27,434 --> 00:09:29,467 When their daughters died here in the house, 259 00:09:29,469 --> 00:09:33,672 I do believe that she is still in her home. 260 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:35,774 Senator patterson, this was his bedroom, 261 00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:37,742 and likely passed in that room. 262 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:39,244 Of a heart attack, right? Right. 263 00:09:39,246 --> 00:09:40,579 Want to go upstairs? Yeah. 264 00:09:40,581 --> 00:09:42,647 You ready for this? Yeah, I'm ready. 265 00:09:42,649 --> 00:09:44,683 You know, it's kind of hard on a paranormal level 266 00:09:44,685 --> 00:09:46,751 because, you know, this is an old property, 267 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:50,055 a lot of different people have lived through these walls. 268 00:09:50,057 --> 00:09:53,825 So I think there's a lot of different history to go through. 269 00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:55,293 Come on. 270 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:56,728 It's a long little hallway. 271 00:09:56,730 --> 00:09:58,663 Can we confirm some of these things? 272 00:09:58,665 --> 00:10:00,999 And does it have anything to do with the haunting? 273 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:08,206 ♪♪ 274 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:11,910 this is the window that I was yelled at from. 275 00:10:11,912 --> 00:10:14,579 Okay. There's a story 276 00:10:14,581 --> 00:10:16,715 that workers were renovating the house to turn it, 277 00:10:16,717 --> 00:10:19,384 I believe, into apartments, and they kept complaining 278 00:10:19,386 --> 00:10:21,219 that tools were going missing. 279 00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:23,054 So the owner put two dobermans in the house 280 00:10:23,056 --> 00:10:25,390 to try to thwart whatever was going on. 281 00:10:25,392 --> 00:10:27,559 They figured it was squatters or vagrants. 282 00:10:27,561 --> 00:10:31,062 The very next morning, the two dogs are found 283 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:35,533 supposedly dead from fright, laying side by side, 284 00:10:35,535 --> 00:10:38,036 paw to paw on the steps of that staircase 285 00:10:38,038 --> 00:10:40,438 right outside this window. 286 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,376 The rumor is, the way it's told as denver folklore, 287 00:10:44,378 --> 00:10:46,611 is that the spirits of the house 288 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:49,581 scared the dogs to death and then removed them 289 00:10:49,583 --> 00:10:51,249 from the house through this window. 290 00:10:52,219 --> 00:10:55,854 [ glass shatters, dogs whimpering ] 291 00:10:56,356 --> 00:10:58,823 I feel sick in here. Can we, um... 292 00:10:58,825 --> 00:10:59,891 I feel nauseous. 293 00:11:04,297 --> 00:11:05,830 Katrina: I feel sick in here. 294 00:11:05,832 --> 00:11:07,766 Is there anything else? 295 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:08,833 I do. I feel sick in here. 296 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:10,502 Chiari: After you. Okay. 297 00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:11,903 Do other people say that? 298 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:15,140 Again, general sense of unease... 299 00:11:15,142 --> 00:11:17,308 Yeah. ...Is common. 300 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:19,678 I feel nauseous. 301 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:20,845 When we were in the tower room, 302 00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:22,647 I started to get very nauseous. 303 00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:24,049 I don't know if that was paranormal 304 00:11:24,051 --> 00:11:26,685 or if it's something to do with the structure. 305 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:30,455 Right now, I can't make any claims on what it was, 306 00:11:30,457 --> 00:11:33,258 but I think it's just something for us to really pay attention 307 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:35,727 to as we move through our investigation. 308 00:11:35,729 --> 00:11:41,266 ♪♪ 309 00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:43,635 I want to take you to one of my favorite rooms now. 310 00:11:43,637 --> 00:11:49,340 ♪♪ 311 00:11:49,342 --> 00:11:51,142 so welcome. This is prague. 312 00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:53,011 When I brought my new gm on, 313 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:55,580 he stayed in this room for two weeks, and every day, 314 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:59,317 he said he felt like someone was watching him or staring. 315 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:03,154 This is an active room, equal to da vinci, 316 00:12:03,156 --> 00:12:06,324 which is the other most talked about active room. 317 00:12:06,326 --> 00:12:08,326 Do you think there's anything negative here? 318 00:12:08,328 --> 00:12:10,361 It has that history. Mm-hmm. 319 00:12:10,363 --> 00:12:11,930 I'd like a little more clarity. 320 00:12:11,932 --> 00:12:13,364 I've had my own experiences. 321 00:12:13,366 --> 00:12:15,567 I've heard the guests' experiences. 322 00:12:15,569 --> 00:12:17,869 I'm really curious to see what you have. 323 00:12:17,871 --> 00:12:20,238 Chris knows he's had experiences. 324 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,307 He knows other people have had them. 325 00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:24,876 But he wants to know, is what I'm thinking 326 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:26,778 about these experiences correct? 327 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:31,149 And if we can get any evidence to back up those claims, 328 00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:34,519 then it might give him some more clarification. 329 00:12:39,326 --> 00:12:42,927 Jack: So it's day two here at croke-patterson. 330 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:44,729 We're meeting with jordan and ann. 331 00:12:44,731 --> 00:12:45,530 Ann? Yes. 332 00:12:45,532 --> 00:12:46,965 Hi. Katrina. And jordan? 333 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:48,700 -Jordan. -Hey, nice to meet you. 334 00:12:48,702 --> 00:12:50,668 They wrote a book about the haunted history 335 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:52,771 of the croke-patterson house. 336 00:12:52,773 --> 00:12:54,906 And we're going to kind of pick their brains 337 00:12:54,908 --> 00:12:56,775 and find out about their experience, 338 00:12:56,777 --> 00:12:58,710 the things they uncovered with the research. 339 00:12:58,712 --> 00:13:01,546 I hope to get some insight from people who've spent 340 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:04,149 a huge amount of time investigating this location. 341 00:13:04,151 --> 00:13:06,251 So you guys researched this, the book comes out, 342 00:13:06,253 --> 00:13:08,386 and you also did a paranormal investigation. 343 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:12,056 What were some of the biggest "a-ha" moments you guys had 344 00:13:12,058 --> 00:13:14,058 when you were looking into this? 345 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:19,197 Well, the first series of things that happened, 346 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:21,633 a fabulous psychic met me here. 347 00:13:21,635 --> 00:13:23,535 She walked in, immediately saw a woman 348 00:13:23,537 --> 00:13:26,638 on the stairs right here on the landing. 349 00:13:28,175 --> 00:13:32,377 And she came right here and stopped and turned around 350 00:13:32,379 --> 00:13:35,713 and looked at the mirror and then looked up. 351 00:13:35,715 --> 00:13:39,017 Said there was a vortex, and she said, 352 00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:40,985 "this is where it all starts. 353 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:43,321 This is the heart of the house." 354 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:44,923 and then the woman on the stairs 355 00:13:44,925 --> 00:13:48,860 led us up into the bathroom on the second floor, 356 00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:51,563 and she took two steps in the bathroom 357 00:13:51,565 --> 00:13:53,631 and just doubled over. 358 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:56,968 And she said, "this is death, and this is suicide. 359 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:58,436 This is death." 360 00:13:58,438 --> 00:14:01,105 I started to feel like I couldn't breathe. 361 00:14:01,107 --> 00:14:02,240 I look at her, and she said, 362 00:14:02,242 --> 00:14:04,676 "don't panic. Just take deep breaths. 363 00:14:04,678 --> 00:14:07,645 There's a woman that died here. She committed suicide. 364 00:14:07,647 --> 00:14:09,247 And it was some sort of gas. 365 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:10,782 And you're feeling the effects of that. 366 00:14:10,784 --> 00:14:12,016 It will pass." 367 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:14,252 jack: Did you guys ever come across any evidence, 368 00:14:14,254 --> 00:14:16,087 any documentation? [ laughs ] 369 00:14:16,089 --> 00:14:17,488 jordan did. 370 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:19,958 A gentleman named archer sudan owned the house. 371 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,028 And we found a death certificate for his first wife. 372 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:26,764 Tulleen sudan killed herself in the house. 373 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:28,132 Jack: Interesting. And it says 374 00:14:28,134 --> 00:14:30,268 cyanogas, she killed herself. 375 00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:32,937 So essentially water and rat poison. 376 00:14:32,939 --> 00:14:36,407 So dr. Sudan did a lot of travelling. 377 00:14:36,409 --> 00:14:39,177 She was a nurse but didn't practice. 378 00:14:39,179 --> 00:14:40,245 Is it your belief that there is 379 00:14:40,247 --> 00:14:41,646 something negative here? 380 00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:42,847 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 381 00:14:42,849 --> 00:14:44,215 What is the negative thing? 382 00:14:44,217 --> 00:14:46,684 The negative energy for me is probably here 383 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:47,852 at the base of the stairs. 384 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:50,455 It's all kind of contained here, I feel. 385 00:14:50,457 --> 00:14:51,890 But I don't know what it is. 386 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:54,826 Like, I couldn't tell you if it's, like, a person or thing. 387 00:14:54,828 --> 00:14:57,829 Jack: Whoa. What was that? 388 00:14:57,831 --> 00:14:59,163 Katrina: Did you just see something? 389 00:14:59,165 --> 00:15:01,366 I thought out of my periphery, I saw, like, 390 00:15:01,368 --> 00:15:02,934 it just looked like someone with their arm 391 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:04,969 on the rail just looking down. 392 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,006 Someone was watching us. 393 00:15:11,978 --> 00:15:13,845 Jack: Whoa. What was that? 394 00:15:13,847 --> 00:15:15,079 Katrina: Did you just see something? 395 00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:16,281 I thought out of my periphery, 396 00:15:16,283 --> 00:15:18,216 I saw, like, it just looked like someone with 397 00:15:18,218 --> 00:15:21,052 their arm on the on the rail just looking down. 398 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:24,188 Someone was watching us. 399 00:15:25,325 --> 00:15:26,724 It's interesting because it's when we were 400 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:28,426 talking about the negative thing 401 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,461 and you were saying whatever it is is 402 00:15:30,463 --> 00:15:31,329 in this area. 403 00:15:31,331 --> 00:15:32,630 -It's right here. -Yeah. 404 00:15:32,632 --> 00:15:33,698 It's always right here. 405 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,166 And that's -- people have experienced 406 00:15:35,168 --> 00:15:36,534 what jack has experienced before. 407 00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:38,803 Oh, yeah, people think that -- I mean, they always say, 408 00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:40,705 "who's upstairs? Who's looking down? 409 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:41,906 -Okay. -Alright. 410 00:15:41,908 --> 00:15:42,941 [ laughter ] 411 00:15:42,943 --> 00:15:43,841 -have fun. -Yeah. 412 00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:44,976 -Will do. -Thank you. 413 00:15:44,978 --> 00:15:46,778 Katrina: I'm really pleased with meeting 414 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:48,613 with jordan and ann and talking with them. 415 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,315 It was really, really interesting. 416 00:15:50,317 --> 00:15:52,917 Number one, they seemed completely credible to me. 417 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:55,119 They seemed like their biggest mission was to tell 418 00:15:55,121 --> 00:16:00,325 the story of this house and not just exploit rumors or legend. 419 00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:01,893 They really wanted to get to the bottom 420 00:16:01,895 --> 00:16:04,796 of why people are having these experiences here. 421 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:12,837 ♪♪ 422 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:15,606 jack and I are gonna set up for the night investigation. 423 00:16:15,608 --> 00:16:19,277 And jack has a great idea of kind of feeling out the space, 424 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:20,845 see what we get, and then we're going to 425 00:16:20,847 --> 00:16:23,247 call in our friend cindy kaza. 426 00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:24,749 She is a psychic medium. 427 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:27,618 Yeah, where does -- where can this go? 428 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:29,220 Katrina: The hope with bringing in cindy 429 00:16:29,222 --> 00:16:32,457 is that if we have some questions, 430 00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:35,159 cindy can help us fill in those holes. 431 00:16:35,895 --> 00:16:37,161 Great. 432 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:39,197 Alright, so the light panels are all set. 433 00:16:39,766 --> 00:16:41,699 Okay. 434 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:43,267 Kill the lights. 435 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:49,240 ♪♪ 436 00:16:49,242 --> 00:16:55,246 ♪♪ 437 00:16:55,248 --> 00:17:00,118 okay, so camera one, we have the heart of the house, 438 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,352 the kind of entryway. 439 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:03,521 Camera 2, we have 440 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:05,590 the second floor stairway landing, 441 00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:08,960 like where I thought I saw someone looking over at me. 442 00:17:08,962 --> 00:17:12,063 Three is in the tower, like the turret, 443 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:14,465 where the dogs allegedly threw themselves out the window. 444 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:17,068 Camera five is the third floor hallway. 445 00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:19,904 Room six is the basement. 446 00:17:19,906 --> 00:17:22,407 This used to be the smoking room of 447 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:23,975 senator patterson. 448 00:17:23,977 --> 00:17:25,910 So our mission is to figure out 449 00:17:25,912 --> 00:17:28,079 who it is that's here, if we know who they are. 450 00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:29,714 Is there a history of them being here? 451 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:32,450 Is there a portal here bringing spirits in? 452 00:17:32,452 --> 00:17:34,852 You know, a lot of people say there's a vortex or a portal 453 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,788 in the heart of the building. 454 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:39,791 That could be one. 455 00:17:39,793 --> 00:17:44,162 ♪♪ 456 00:17:44,164 --> 00:17:45,430 -hey, katrina. -Hey. 457 00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:46,497 -How you doing? -What's going on? 458 00:17:46,499 --> 00:17:48,499 I thought a good strategy would be 459 00:17:48,501 --> 00:17:50,268 maybe do like a big call out being like, 460 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:52,437 "hey, we're here. We're just documenting. 461 00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:54,739 We're not trying to, you know, get rid of you. 462 00:17:54,741 --> 00:17:56,174 This is your home." 463 00:17:56,176 --> 00:17:58,609 and, yeah, we'll kind of go from there. 464 00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:00,845 I like to do this. Let's do this. 465 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:02,780 Grab that gear. 466 00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:05,716 Katrina: So there's a couple hot spots here in house. 467 00:18:05,718 --> 00:18:07,985 Jack's gonna start in the da vinci room, 468 00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:09,821 I'm going to start in the prague room, 469 00:18:09,823 --> 00:18:12,990 and see what kind of results we get from that. 470 00:18:12,992 --> 00:18:16,494 There are people that claim a very strong male presence 471 00:18:16,496 --> 00:18:18,896 in the prague room, and they feel watched. 472 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:28,539 ♪♪ 473 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:32,243 I'm gonna leave this right here. 474 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:33,511 [ beeping ] 475 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:37,715 all right, if anyone's in this room, any spirits, 476 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:42,753 any entities, make the light change on this device. 477 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:46,757 Just get close to it, and you see if you touch it... 478 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,727 [ beeping ] 479 00:18:49,729 --> 00:18:52,063 ...It'll change, so do that. 480 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:55,766 So I'll probably just start off with a voice session here. 481 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:58,035 See if anything talks through. 482 00:18:58,037 --> 00:19:01,339 Maybe it can give me some answers as to the questions 483 00:19:01,341 --> 00:19:02,940 surrounding this room 484 00:19:02,942 --> 00:19:06,043 or at least lead me to where I need to go. 485 00:19:06,045 --> 00:19:10,481 So I'm gonna talk to whoever is in this room, specifically. 486 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,283 Chris, who owns the building now, 487 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:14,252 he'd really like to know who you are. 488 00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:21,192 Can you tell me who the man is in this room? 489 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:24,562 This is a communication device. You talk to me through this. 490 00:19:24,564 --> 00:19:28,099 ♪♪ 491 00:19:28,101 --> 00:19:30,768 [ beeping ] 492 00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:33,371 jack: That's a temperature change. 493 00:19:34,574 --> 00:19:36,207 That's very odd. 494 00:19:36,209 --> 00:19:38,676 ♪♪ 495 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:42,313 [ beeping ] 496 00:19:42,315 --> 00:19:47,919 ♪♪ 497 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:50,655 all right, the rem pod just began to get triggered 498 00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:52,089 from temperature. 499 00:19:52,091 --> 00:19:57,061 It is a drafty house, but I'm just -- 500 00:19:57,063 --> 00:19:59,497 I'm not feeling like a draft come through here. 501 00:19:59,499 --> 00:20:02,300 I shut the curtain, and I reset the temperature gauge. 502 00:20:02,302 --> 00:20:06,571 So if it still plummets, something to watch out for. 503 00:20:08,908 --> 00:20:11,209 Whose bedroom am I in? 504 00:20:11,744 --> 00:20:13,811 Is it mr. Patterson? 505 00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:18,883 ♪♪ 506 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:25,823 is it patterson that comes to this room? 507 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:27,558 Mr. Patterson? 508 00:20:30,096 --> 00:20:32,296 Yes. 509 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:34,732 Okay. 510 00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:37,702 Senator patterson, why do you come to this room? 511 00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:43,341 Do you like to be on the third floor? 512 00:20:43,343 --> 00:20:48,579 ♪♪ 513 00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,181 how are you still with us? 514 00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:53,384 I'm talking to maybe patterson? 515 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:57,054 ♪♪ 516 00:20:57,056 --> 00:21:00,324 seems like very random things coming through right now. 517 00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:03,628 Okay, so you've seen the temperature shift. 518 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:06,397 Can you do it when I ask you to? 519 00:21:06,399 --> 00:21:08,466 I'm going to ask you a question, 520 00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:12,670 and make that beep like you've been doing. 521 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:17,108 Did you die in this house? 522 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:18,943 Are you a male? 523 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,580 Are you female? 524 00:21:22,749 --> 00:21:25,116 [ beeping ] 525 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:26,917 that thing's going off. 526 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:29,220 [ beeping continues ] 527 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:33,257 did you used to live here? 528 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:40,431 I don't know what to make of it, but it did seem like 529 00:21:40,433 --> 00:21:43,601 there was some intelligent kind of responses 530 00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:44,769 coming through. 531 00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:47,905 I'd ask a question, and then it would seem... 532 00:21:47,907 --> 00:21:49,106 [ beeping ] 533 00:21:49,108 --> 00:21:51,542 like now. 534 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:54,145 Who are you? 535 00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:56,414 Was that tulleen? 536 00:21:56,416 --> 00:21:58,516 Katherine? 537 00:22:01,888 --> 00:22:03,888 Yeah, I think maybe I want to go out into the hallway, 538 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:05,222 bring the rem pod there, 539 00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:06,924 and we'll see what we pick up in the hallway. 540 00:22:06,926 --> 00:22:13,664 ♪♪ 541 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:16,167 all right, heart of the house. 542 00:22:16,169 --> 00:22:21,072 ♪♪ 543 00:22:21,074 --> 00:22:23,007 got my rem pod sat right here. 544 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:28,379 ♪♪ 545 00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:31,449 make that rem pod light up. We're in the heart of the house. 546 00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:36,921 Everyone said this is where it all happens. 547 00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:43,561 ♪♪ 548 00:22:43,563 --> 00:22:50,134 ♪♪ 549 00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:52,103 the thought is when you relax your gaze 550 00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:55,172 and you kind of just like sink into your focus, 551 00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:57,875 people believe that entities or messages or visions 552 00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,810 can come through to you. 553 00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:02,847 So this is scrying. 554 00:23:02,849 --> 00:23:04,849 Basically, you just look at yourself in the mirror 555 00:23:04,851 --> 00:23:07,785 or you look at a fixed object in the reflection of the mirror, 556 00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,054 and you just relax your gaze. 557 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:13,157 ♪♪ 558 00:23:19,565 --> 00:23:21,165 you just hear that? 559 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:28,906 ♪♪ 560 00:23:28,908 --> 00:23:32,443 is that someone [bleep] walking in the basement? 561 00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:34,378 Did you just [bleep] hear that? 562 00:23:38,084 --> 00:23:42,353 ♪♪ 563 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,894 is that someone [bleep] walking in the basement? 564 00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:51,796 Did you just [bleep] hear that? 565 00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:56,033 Katrina, I'm hearing positive footsteps 566 00:23:56,035 --> 00:23:57,668 in the basement right now. 567 00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:02,006 You're hearing footsteps in the basement? 568 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:04,975 Yeah. I mean, that was clear as day. 569 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:06,510 All right. I'm coming to you. 570 00:24:08,047 --> 00:24:10,681 That was [bleep] loud and scary. 571 00:24:10,683 --> 00:24:20,491 ♪♪ 572 00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:23,294 clear as day. I just heard... 573 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:26,764 [ stomping feet ] 574 00:24:26,766 --> 00:24:27,932 did it sound like on the staircase? 575 00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:31,001 It sounded like it was in the parlor. 576 00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:32,470 ♪♪ 577 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:36,941 ♪♪ 578 00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:38,542 do we want to go down to the basement? 579 00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:40,044 I think we should go to the basement. 580 00:24:40,046 --> 00:24:41,846 You're hearing footsteps? Let's do it. 581 00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:44,615 Jack: You know, hearing those footsteps 582 00:24:44,617 --> 00:24:46,851 get me fired up a little bit. 583 00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:48,252 I don't know what to make of it, 584 00:24:48,254 --> 00:24:50,254 but it's creepy here. 585 00:24:50,256 --> 00:24:51,589 It feels weird down here. 586 00:24:51,591 --> 00:24:52,590 Yeah. 587 00:24:52,592 --> 00:24:53,757 Ooh, yeah. 588 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:55,159 Ooh, ooh, yeah. 589 00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:58,629 Mm-hmm. 590 00:24:58,631 --> 00:24:59,730 Yeah, it's a little tingly. 591 00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:02,933 Huh? Yeah. Just a bit. 592 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:08,138 Is patterson and here? Senator patterson? 593 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:12,076 Oh, I just got the chills, big time, big time. 594 00:25:16,749 --> 00:25:19,149 Oh, I do not like it down here. 595 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:21,452 No? No. 596 00:25:24,824 --> 00:25:26,924 Who was walking around down here? 597 00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:31,529 Could you walk around for us some more, 598 00:25:31,531 --> 00:25:34,164 make some more footsteps that we can hear? 599 00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:38,936 ♪♪ 600 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,941 I thought I heard "sudan" come through, by the way. 601 00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:45,442 Yeah, I heard that. 602 00:25:45,444 --> 00:25:47,311 It's really clear. 603 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:48,812 Tulleen? 604 00:25:50,816 --> 00:25:53,183 Tulleen, are you down here with us? 605 00:25:56,255 --> 00:25:58,188 Nurse. 606 00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:01,292 Tulleen sudan, she was a nurse. 607 00:26:02,562 --> 00:26:03,494 Yeah, that would 608 00:26:03,496 --> 00:26:04,862 have been tulleen. Yeah. 609 00:26:04,864 --> 00:26:11,368 ♪♪ 610 00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:17,875 ♪♪ 611 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:20,511 who's down here with us right now? 612 00:26:20,513 --> 00:26:24,348 Can you bang on something? Knock a wall? 613 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:31,221 ♪♪ 614 00:26:31,223 --> 00:26:33,557 tulleen? 615 00:26:34,994 --> 00:26:37,227 "yes, ma'am." 616 00:26:37,229 --> 00:26:39,763 where do we go to talk to you better? 617 00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:46,170 "this house." 618 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:49,440 do you mean anywhere in the house? 619 00:26:51,844 --> 00:26:53,377 I heard "the bathroom." 620 00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:54,411 the bathroom? 621 00:26:54,413 --> 00:26:55,546 Yeah, the bathroom. 622 00:26:55,548 --> 00:26:57,114 Which bathroom? 623 00:26:57,116 --> 00:26:58,782 I wonder if they're talking about 624 00:26:58,784 --> 00:26:59,950 the royale bathroom. 625 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,252 If we keep getting things connected to tulleen. 626 00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:04,221 And that's where that one psychic really felt that 627 00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:05,723 that suicide happened. 628 00:27:05,725 --> 00:27:09,293 She took two steps in the bathroom and just doubled over. 629 00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:11,395 And she said, "there's a woman that died here. 630 00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:14,498 She committed suicide. And it was some sort of gas. 631 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:15,866 And you're feeling the effects of that. 632 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:17,201 It will pass." 633 00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:18,969 maybe we should check that out. 634 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:20,671 You know, either confirm it or rule it out. 635 00:27:20,673 --> 00:27:21,639 Yeah. 636 00:27:21,641 --> 00:27:22,973 'cause something's weird happening. 637 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,575 They're claiming that's where she killed herself. 638 00:27:24,577 --> 00:27:27,678 There's proof she did die here from suicide. 639 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,580 Since we've started ghost box sessions, 640 00:27:29,582 --> 00:27:31,415 we keep having things that seem to be connected 641 00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,850 to tulleen come through. 642 00:27:32,852 --> 00:27:34,451 I mean, if we're taking a look collectively 643 00:27:34,453 --> 00:27:36,720 at everything we've had so far, it would make sense. 644 00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:40,290 So it's either her or somebody talking about her. 645 00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:50,267 ♪♪ 646 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:51,902 it's cold in here. 647 00:27:51,904 --> 00:27:53,671 Yeah. 648 00:27:53,673 --> 00:28:02,312 ♪♪ 649 00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:04,648 is tulleen sudan here? 650 00:28:07,987 --> 00:28:10,487 Is anyone here with us right now? 651 00:28:10,489 --> 00:28:13,590 ♪♪ 652 00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:16,727 poison? 653 00:28:16,729 --> 00:28:18,495 Whoa, I heard that. 654 00:28:24,303 --> 00:28:26,937 Is anyone here with us right now? 655 00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:30,474 ♪♪ 656 00:28:31,844 --> 00:28:33,243 poison? 657 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,946 Whoa, I heard that. 658 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:38,482 Can you tell us why? 659 00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:41,752 What do you want us to know? 660 00:28:41,754 --> 00:28:45,489 ♪♪ 661 00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:49,226 "she died here." yeah, I heard that. 662 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,195 -That's what it just said? -Yeah. "she died here." 663 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:52,663 I heard that. 664 00:28:52,665 --> 00:28:55,265 Jordan: Archer sudan owned the house, and his first wife, 665 00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:57,434 tulleen sudan, killed herself in the house. 666 00:28:57,436 --> 00:29:00,137 And it says cyanogas. She killed herself. 667 00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:02,139 What drove her to kill herself? 668 00:29:06,612 --> 00:29:08,979 Is there a dark energy here? 669 00:29:08,981 --> 00:29:16,954 ♪♪ 670 00:29:18,124 --> 00:29:19,957 it's weird. It seemed like it died down here. 671 00:29:19,959 --> 00:29:22,092 Yeah. Feels different. 672 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,393 Yeah. 673 00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:25,996 Jack: I mean, whatever is coming through on the geo port, 674 00:29:25,998 --> 00:29:27,931 we're getting really intelligent responses, 675 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,068 so I'm hoping to maybe get some clarity to what's going on. 676 00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:32,603 Do you want me to run down and get cindy? 677 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:34,404 Okay, yeah, that sounds good. 678 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:37,307 ♪♪ 679 00:29:37,309 --> 00:29:39,676 so right now, our friend and psychic medium, 680 00:29:39,678 --> 00:29:41,411 cindy kaza, has arrived. 681 00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:42,546 You ready to roll? Yep. 682 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:43,647 All right. 683 00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:45,249 We're going to see if she can validate 684 00:29:45,251 --> 00:29:47,618 our experiences that we've had so far. 685 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:50,487 We still have some holes. We still have some questions. 686 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:53,257 And I feel like she's kind of, I'm looking at her right now 687 00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:55,559 as our glue to put our puzzle together. 688 00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:57,427 We just want to set you loose. 689 00:29:57,429 --> 00:29:59,830 Ooh, alright. And just... 690 00:29:59,832 --> 00:30:01,732 Let you kind of take the lead almost. 691 00:30:01,734 --> 00:30:03,834 I want to go upstairs. Okay. 692 00:30:03,836 --> 00:30:05,435 Yeah. 693 00:30:05,437 --> 00:30:15,445 ♪♪ 694 00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:18,582 there's just a lot in this house. 695 00:30:18,584 --> 00:30:20,751 The house itself feels possessed, 696 00:30:20,753 --> 00:30:22,419 for lack of a better term. 697 00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:25,522 There's definitely a portal here. 698 00:30:25,524 --> 00:30:27,224 That's for damn sure. 699 00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:28,425 Do you know where it is? 700 00:30:28,427 --> 00:30:30,627 It feels like the whole house is a portal. 701 00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:34,731 Where do you want to go from here? 702 00:30:34,733 --> 00:30:36,633 Um... 703 00:30:36,635 --> 00:30:38,135 I want to go -- I'm gonna just leave. 704 00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:39,703 I'm just gonna go this way. 705 00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:46,810 ♪♪ 706 00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:48,912 okay, um... 707 00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:52,749 Uh... 708 00:30:52,751 --> 00:30:55,485 Has anybody seen a woman that walks across this hallway? 709 00:30:55,487 --> 00:30:56,920 Because she's here. 710 00:30:56,922 --> 00:30:59,323 Do people say they see something on the stairs? 711 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:01,158 I've heard that before. 712 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,527 Out of my periphery, I saw, like, 713 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:05,362 it just looked like someone with their arm on the rail 714 00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:06,597 just looking down. 715 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:08,432 Someone was watching us. 716 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:11,068 She likes to sit on the couch 717 00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:13,170 and just walk back and forth. 718 00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:16,874 I can just feel her here. 719 00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:19,276 She's just very connected to this space. 720 00:31:19,278 --> 00:31:20,277 Okay. 721 00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:28,752 ♪♪ 722 00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:31,355 the man -- there's a man who died of a heart attack 723 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:33,757 in this house because as I walk in here, 724 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,960 I see the man dropping dead of a massive heart attack, 725 00:31:36,962 --> 00:31:38,462 just falling to the floor. 726 00:31:38,464 --> 00:31:39,963 Bam. 727 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,499 Chiari: Senator patterson likely passed in that room. 728 00:31:42,501 --> 00:31:43,734 Katrina: Of a heart attack, right? 729 00:31:43,736 --> 00:31:44,668 Right. 730 00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:46,036 He died so fast that I feel like 731 00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:48,739 he didn't even realize that he died. 732 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:52,276 So he's kind of wandering around, like, not really sure 733 00:31:52,278 --> 00:31:56,113 how he got to the other side because it was so fast. 734 00:31:56,115 --> 00:31:57,881 And he hangs out in this house. 735 00:31:57,883 --> 00:31:59,549 He's very active in his house. 736 00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:00,751 And is he a good spirit? 737 00:32:00,753 --> 00:32:03,220 He's fine. Like, he's not a problem. 738 00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:05,155 He's actually quite charming. 739 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:06,390 Alright. 740 00:32:06,392 --> 00:32:12,129 ♪♪ 741 00:32:12,131 --> 00:32:17,801 ♪♪ 742 00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:20,971 what is this? A watchtower? 743 00:32:24,777 --> 00:32:26,910 Can I ask you a very specific question... 744 00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:28,145 Yes. ...In this room? 745 00:32:28,147 --> 00:32:29,680 There are rumors that these dogs 746 00:32:29,682 --> 00:32:33,050 jumped out of this tower room to commit suicide. 747 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:37,554 Are you picking up anything relating to why 748 00:32:37,556 --> 00:32:39,423 or what caused that? 749 00:32:40,793 --> 00:32:42,326 You know, I honestly have to tell you, 750 00:32:42,328 --> 00:32:44,227 I don't think that that was paranormal. 751 00:32:44,229 --> 00:32:45,796 So you feel like it was, like, a human person? 752 00:32:45,798 --> 00:32:48,298 Yeah, I feel like it has to do with a human 753 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:49,599 or something scared them. 754 00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:50,901 And that's what it was. 755 00:32:50,903 --> 00:32:53,370 I don't think it's a ghost or an entity 756 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:54,538 that did that. 757 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,572 Katrina: Okay. 758 00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:57,507 Was there a woman who isolated herself 759 00:32:57,509 --> 00:33:00,043 for months on end? 760 00:33:00,045 --> 00:33:03,180 Can you hone in a little bit more? 761 00:33:03,182 --> 00:33:04,848 The man who had the heart attack, 762 00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:06,416 that's her husband. 763 00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:09,186 So his wife, katherine. 764 00:33:09,188 --> 00:33:12,322 That's who it is. She's here. 765 00:33:12,324 --> 00:33:13,991 She's the lady of the house. 766 00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:15,993 Okay. The lady of the house. 767 00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:21,832 She's got unfinished business with some things 768 00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:24,668 that happened in her life when she lived in this house. 769 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:25,902 So that's why she's here? 770 00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:27,137 That's why I feel she's here. 771 00:33:27,139 --> 00:33:29,172 Has anybody seen her staring out the window? 772 00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:30,273 Yeah. 773 00:33:30,275 --> 00:33:33,110 My first paranormal experience was a ghost 774 00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:34,878 up there in this tower. 775 00:33:36,181 --> 00:33:38,982 People can see her staring at the window. 776 00:33:38,984 --> 00:33:41,852 But it's not that she's trapped in that space. 777 00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,186 -Okay. -She just comes for 778 00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:44,821 a looksy-loo. -Yeah. 779 00:33:44,823 --> 00:33:48,458 Because she wants people to acknowledge her presence 780 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:50,360 because he didn't do that as much as you should have. 781 00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:52,796 Mm. Right. 782 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,332 All right. Let's go to the cellar. 783 00:33:55,334 --> 00:34:01,671 ♪♪ 784 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:03,974 jack: I don't like it down here. 785 00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:10,447 Katrina: So we have some very specific questions for you. 786 00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:14,317 You've touched on some tragedy, some sadness in the space. 787 00:34:14,319 --> 00:34:17,087 There is documentation of a woman committing suicide 788 00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:18,221 in 1950. 789 00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,557 I feel like that's the woman upstairs. 790 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:21,958 This is the staircase, of course. 791 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,493 Felt like someone walked up behind them. 792 00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:25,796 Katrina: Yeah, I'm not surprised about that. 793 00:34:25,798 --> 00:34:27,197 You can feel it when you go up the steps. 794 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,000 She likes to walk back and forth. 795 00:34:30,002 --> 00:34:31,701 Are you sure she killed herself? 796 00:34:31,703 --> 00:34:33,737 Because I really don't feel suicide. 797 00:34:37,676 --> 00:34:39,443 Cindy: Are you sure she killed herself? 798 00:34:39,445 --> 00:34:41,511 Because I really don't feel suicide. 799 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:42,879 Can I give you a name? 100%. 800 00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:43,947 Sure. See if it taps in? 801 00:34:43,949 --> 00:34:46,516 Tulleen. Tulleen? 802 00:34:49,288 --> 00:34:52,656 Cindy was using a technique called automatic writing. 803 00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:56,460 It's almost like just verbalize what you are hearing. 804 00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:58,195 It's you just write it, and, you know, 805 00:34:58,197 --> 00:35:00,197 she kind of says she has no control over her hand 806 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,199 and just whatever comes out comes out. 807 00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:06,536 Okay, that's interesting. So here's the thing. 808 00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:09,306 I just heard, "I did do it, but he helped me." 809 00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:11,775 so there's somebody who helped her do it. 810 00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:15,445 There's got to be somebody who either got her 811 00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:18,048 something to do it or knew she was going to do it. 812 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:19,683 Can you ask her who? 813 00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:23,920 "he got the --" well, I'm writing "medicine." 814 00:35:23,922 --> 00:35:25,255 that's what I'm hearing -- "medicine." 815 00:35:25,257 --> 00:35:26,590 but it obviously wasn't medicine. 816 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,859 So there's a man who worked here who helped her do it. 817 00:35:28,861 --> 00:35:31,128 So she did do it, but she had help. 818 00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:33,196 Okay. 819 00:35:33,198 --> 00:35:34,598 Her husband was a doctor, yeah. 820 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,333 And she was a nurse. 821 00:35:36,335 --> 00:35:38,268 No [bleep] 822 00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:41,738 he had a part in her death. There's more to the story. 823 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:45,442 Would the owners of the house be targeted in a way 824 00:35:45,444 --> 00:35:49,112 of having bad luck or tragedy? 825 00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:51,581 A lot of times it becomes a psychological thing 826 00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:56,019 where people believe that they're living in a curse place 827 00:35:56,021 --> 00:35:58,788 or a possessed place, and then that's creating 828 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:02,325 all of the bad luck that happens in their lives. 829 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:08,031 But I do feel there's something in the walls of this house 830 00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:13,036 that could potentially create some negative circumstances 831 00:36:13,038 --> 00:36:14,804 for the people that live here. 832 00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:20,343 I feel this place has always been a portal. 833 00:36:24,316 --> 00:36:26,149 You definitely helped us fill some holes in. 834 00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:27,751 Yeah. Good. 835 00:36:27,753 --> 00:36:30,654 I think cindy's reading validates a lot of the history 836 00:36:30,656 --> 00:36:33,356 that we know, but also more clarity of what 837 00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:35,058 spirits are believed to be here. 838 00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:37,694 And I think we have a lot to take to chris. 839 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:43,867 ♪♪ 840 00:36:43,869 --> 00:36:50,106 ♪♪ 841 00:36:50,108 --> 00:36:51,408 how was your evening? 842 00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:53,376 Chiari: My evening was good. How was your evening? 843 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:56,313 Eventful. Lots of things happened. 844 00:36:56,315 --> 00:36:57,847 Have you guys ever heard walking 845 00:36:57,849 --> 00:36:59,516 in the basement or around the basement 846 00:36:59,518 --> 00:37:00,684 when you've been up here? 847 00:37:00,686 --> 00:37:02,252 Well, upstairs hearing downstairs, 848 00:37:02,254 --> 00:37:03,920 I have no experience there. 849 00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:05,355 I'm gonna play you something. 850 00:37:05,357 --> 00:37:07,557 I was right here in front of the mirror. 851 00:37:07,659 --> 00:37:10,660 [ static ] 852 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:14,598 [ tapping ] 853 00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:16,933 did you hear it? I did. 854 00:37:16,935 --> 00:37:18,168 Katrina: Is that explainable? 855 00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:20,537 Uh, no. But I've heard that 856 00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,239 the basement's really active. Yeah. 857 00:37:22,241 --> 00:37:24,507 But actually hearing footsteps. 858 00:37:24,509 --> 00:37:27,644 Yeah, it sound like someone with like fancy shoes... 859 00:37:27,646 --> 00:37:29,646 [ chuckles ] ...Just walking. 860 00:37:29,648 --> 00:37:30,981 We met with ann and jordan. 861 00:37:30,983 --> 00:37:32,015 Have you met with them before? 862 00:37:32,017 --> 00:37:33,450 I have not. You have not? Okay. 863 00:37:33,452 --> 00:37:35,752 Okay, so they did a hell of a lot 864 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:37,187 of research on this place. 865 00:37:37,189 --> 00:37:38,622 They actually wrote a book about it. 866 00:37:38,624 --> 00:37:40,657 They were able to confirm one suicide in the house 867 00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,993 that would have been in the upstairs bathroom 868 00:37:42,995 --> 00:37:45,495 on the second floor in a royale room. 869 00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:47,464 Tulleen sudan. 870 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:50,367 Okay. So they had a copy 871 00:37:50,369 --> 00:37:52,669 of her death certificate. 872 00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:57,507 We do know she committed suicide. 873 00:37:57,509 --> 00:37:59,342 She was 48 when she did it. 874 00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:02,379 She did it by mixing a couple chemicals together 875 00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:04,414 and inhaling the gas. 876 00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,583 One of the pieces of equipment we used, 877 00:38:06,585 --> 00:38:09,185 they're called ghost boxes or voice boxes. 878 00:38:09,187 --> 00:38:11,221 Surprisingly, we kept getting those name sudan 879 00:38:11,223 --> 00:38:12,656 come through. 880 00:38:16,061 --> 00:38:18,561 I thought I heard "sudan" come through, by the way. 881 00:38:18,563 --> 00:38:19,863 Yeah, I heard it. Yeah, I heard that. 882 00:38:19,865 --> 00:38:21,231 It was really clear. 883 00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:24,634 We did bring in cindy kaza, who's a psychic medium, 884 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,837 and she was hitting on things that were fascinating. 885 00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,674 I don't feel she killed herself 886 00:38:30,676 --> 00:38:34,477 or something else that -- it was reported incorrectly 887 00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:36,546 or things were covered up. 888 00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:38,448 She kept saying, "there's more to the story, 889 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:40,483 this woman did not commit suicide." 890 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:41,951 and we were like, "well, what do you mean by that?" 891 00:38:41,953 --> 00:38:44,087 and she's like, "she keeps talking about 892 00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:45,255 the medicine, the medicine." 893 00:38:45,257 --> 00:38:46,423 somebody gave her the medicine. 894 00:38:46,425 --> 00:38:48,491 And then she either knowingly took it 895 00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:51,628 to commit suicide or she did not know what she was doing. 896 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:52,662 But she very much felt 897 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,030 that there was more to that story, 898 00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:57,233 and that's part of the reason why you would experience 899 00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,968 tulleen here in this house. 900 00:38:58,970 --> 00:39:00,337 And she feels like that's the woman 901 00:39:00,339 --> 00:39:02,138 that people would see on the stairs. 902 00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:04,574 Okay, that person likely walking up behind people. 903 00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,976 Mm-hmm. She very much feels like her. 904 00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:09,446 She likes to walk back and forth. 905 00:39:09,448 --> 00:39:11,114 The other thing -- she does not believe 906 00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,383 the dog incident was paranormal at all. 907 00:39:13,385 --> 00:39:14,584 No, she just believes that they were, like, 908 00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:15,885 scared out of here by someone 909 00:39:15,887 --> 00:39:17,854 who was, like, chasing them and scaring them. 910 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:19,389 You know, I honestly have to tell you, 911 00:39:19,391 --> 00:39:20,924 I don't think that that was paranormal. 912 00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:22,826 Yeah. So you feel like it was like a human person? 913 00:39:22,828 --> 00:39:25,161 Yeah, I feel like it has to do with a human 914 00:39:25,163 --> 00:39:26,963 or something scared them. 915 00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:28,932 She said the interesting thing about this place 916 00:39:28,934 --> 00:39:31,000 is that it is kind of like a beacon or a portal 917 00:39:31,002 --> 00:39:32,102 or whatever you want to call it, 918 00:39:32,104 --> 00:39:34,804 that spirits from all over are drawn to it. 919 00:39:37,609 --> 00:39:38,608 It's almost like, you know, 920 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:39,976 the moth to the flame. 921 00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:42,479 They're drawn in, and they don't necessarily know why. 922 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:45,482 So it's just pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling. 923 00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:47,450 I was hoping for katherine or thomas. 924 00:39:47,452 --> 00:39:49,919 Well, so actually I did get thomas to come through 925 00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:51,421 when I was in the prague room. 926 00:39:51,423 --> 00:39:53,590 When cindy started to dive in on that, 927 00:39:53,592 --> 00:39:55,458 she also felt like both of them were here. 928 00:39:55,460 --> 00:39:57,394 She immediately picked up on katherine, 929 00:39:57,396 --> 00:39:59,462 who she very strongly believes is here. 930 00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:02,899 And she believes that's who you saw on your first day here. 931 00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,334 Okay. And that katherine is 932 00:40:04,336 --> 00:40:05,502 kind of the woman of the house. 933 00:40:05,504 --> 00:40:09,672 You know? I believe that myself, so... 934 00:40:09,674 --> 00:40:11,374 We asked about the bad luck. 935 00:40:11,376 --> 00:40:12,575 Because it does seem like there's 936 00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:14,077 a chain of bad luck here. 937 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,780 She thought it was more psychological on, 938 00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:18,281 you know, the owners' part. 939 00:40:18,283 --> 00:40:20,950 So meaning you come into this house 940 00:40:20,952 --> 00:40:23,420 that's already charged, maybe you have some bad luck. 941 00:40:23,422 --> 00:40:24,821 Maybe that gets into your head. 942 00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,890 The next owner comes, already has that in their head. 943 00:40:26,892 --> 00:40:29,325 And, you know, then it's cyclical like that. 944 00:40:29,327 --> 00:40:31,060 So where you have this paranormal activity, 945 00:40:31,062 --> 00:40:33,463 but then you'll also have the psychological element, 946 00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:35,832 and they're kind of feeding into each other. 947 00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:38,168 But I'm happy to hear that the pattersons are still here. 948 00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:40,770 This is their house, and it gives me 949 00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:42,972 a great privilege to know that I'm the caretaker 950 00:40:42,974 --> 00:40:46,476 today for this legacy that's 120-plus years. 951 00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:48,778 And I hope it's still here for 120 more. 952 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,081 I hope they have the thrill of walking these halls 953 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:53,550 for as long as possible. 954 00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:54,918 I think that's great. 955 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,519 Sounds like you were just the right owner to come in. 956 00:40:56,521 --> 00:40:57,620 Yeah. 957 00:40:57,622 --> 00:41:04,894 ♪♪ 958 00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:07,831 jack: I believe this hotel is haunted by numerous spirits. 959 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,799 Some of them made themselves known to us 960 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:11,835 through our investigation last night. 961 00:41:11,837 --> 00:41:15,338 I think that there is a lot of evidence to back that up. 962 00:41:16,475 --> 00:41:19,175 This is a straight up haunted hotel. 963 00:41:19,177 --> 00:41:20,510 Croke-patterson? 964 00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:21,711 Definitely haunted. 965 00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:23,646 I would absolutely say that. 966 00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:26,049 You know, something that was coming up the whole time 967 00:41:26,051 --> 00:41:28,218 seemed to be portals. It did. 968 00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:29,686 By all accounts, a lot of people believe that 969 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:30,920 this place has one. 970 00:41:30,922 --> 00:41:32,755 We've had so many experiences that line up 971 00:41:32,757 --> 00:41:34,157 with other people's experiences. 972 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,159 So what's to say a portal isn't true? 973 00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:37,560 Absolutely. Well, there you have it. 974 00:41:37,562 --> 00:41:38,661 Croke-patterson. 975 00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:40,463 I think this place is a portal. 976 00:41:40,465 --> 00:41:42,599 We don't throw that title around very often, 977 00:41:42,601 --> 00:41:44,868 but I think there could be something here. 978 00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:51,441 ♪♪ 979 00:41:51,443 --> 00:41:58,014 ♪♪ 83875

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