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Did you die in this house?

Who are you?

[ beeping ]

that thing is going off.

[ beeping continues ]

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jack: Is this place a portal to hell?

[ cawing ]

-[ grunts ] -[ cries out ]

that's bones.

[ suspenseful music plays ]

[ child giggling ]

[ beeping ] serious?

[ asphyxiating ]

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katrina: He believes that you're demonic...

[ cawing ]

...So this should really piss you off.

[ bell tolling ]

[ laughing ]

[ sinister music plays ]

[ voices exhaling ]

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so we're in denver, colorado, and we are going to be

investigating the king of haunted houses,

the croke-patterson mansion. Yeah.

This place has a really long history

of very strange and kind of dark occurrences

connected to the families that own this property.

Yeah, it kind of seems like every family that's

lived there has had some crazy misfortune

to the point where, I mean, everybody is dying,

they're losing all their money.

And a lot of people attribute this

to either weird energy in the house

or even a haunting.

So, you know, what's with this place?

Is there a portal?

Is it just plain haunted? What's the deal?

So I guess more to be revealed.

Let's do it.

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so croke-patterson.

This dislocation has never been investigated for tv.

Yeah. I want to know

who gave it the name "the king of haunted houses"

and what transpired for them to designate it that title.

We go into a lot of these places,

and people are like, "this person died,

that person died, then this happened."

and when you start digging into it,

there's no basis for it at all.

What's interesting about this property

is a lot of these "rumors" are actually backed up

with fact and news articles

and people who actually did live and die here.

Yeah. So going through

the property records gives us a really good timeline.

The croke family built it in 1890.

And within six months of having it built,

the market crashed.

Three years later, in 1893, a patterson family moves in.

So that's why we have the name croke-patterson.

A year later, their daughter died.

After that, the wife becomes ill, and she dies.

And then patterson has a heart attack

and dies in the house.

Wow.

After that, we do see a family there,

a dr. Sudan and his family.

They take over, and then the wife commits suicide in 1950.

Just seems like every family that moves in

gets cursed by this place or by something.

That's the thing, too,

because we are talking about a time period,

late 1800s, early 1900s,

spiritualism was huge. Yeah.

And seances were done for fun.

They were like the thing to do on a Saturday night.

Yeah.

And then that brings up the question,

did they bring something in or stir something up?

Does that have anything to do with the energy on the property,

the building?

Did somebody open up a portal?

Or is it just strange string of weird occurrences that happened?

Yeah.

Ooh.

What the... This is it?

Wow.

What the [bleep]

wow.

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wow.

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should we disembark and go meet chris?

Let's go meet chris.

So we're gonna meet with the owner, chris,

and do a bit of a baseline walk through.

This place does seem like it has some kind of

curse associated with it.

It's like the world's worst luck ever.

I mean, like, what family has lived here

and owned this place and been like --

come out the other side better?

-Hi. -Hi.

Welcome to the patterson inn.

Thank you. You're chris?

I'm chris. Nice to meet you.

I'm katrina. Hi.

Hey. How's it going? Hi. Nice to meet you.

I'm jack.

Let me help you with your bags.

Oh, yeah. Thank you.

So this is a stunning building.

Thank you. I have to say, it's gorgeous.

How did you come about owning?

Nine years ago, I flew out to denver

to look at this abandoned building.

I stood right here, and I looked at the house, and I said,

"I want to turn you into a bed and breakfast."

and my first paranormal experience was a ghost

up there in this tower.

And she said, like she was standing next to me,

"get off the [bleep] grass."

jack: Were you stood on the grass?

Yeah, the path wasn't here yet.

It was still like a little hill.

And I looked down. My foot was on the grass.

But that was my very first experience.

How many paranormal experiences have you had in this place?

Personally, I've had two.

Okay.

So the house either picks you or it runs you.

And so far, so good.

-Okay. -Interesting.

Well, let's go on the tour.

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this room is original.

We'll talk about it more when we go upstairs.

I'll show you some of the paintings,

then some of the stories.

Do people say they see something on the stairs?

I've heard that before.

When we first walked in, I got drawn to the stairs.

When I looked at the landing, I kind of saw something like

a figure that looked distorted.

A few months ago, I had a friend and his girlfriend

stay here at the hotel,

and they went up the stairs that night.

And when they were at breakfast the next morning,

I asked them how did they sleep, was everything okay?

And they both looked at each other,

and he goes, "well, I'm pretty sure

somebody followed us up the stairs last night."

mm. And they were the only ones

in the house.

And she looked at him, and she goes,

"I thought that, too."

they didn't want to talk about it

until the next morning. Oh.

I'm not surprised that people feel like somebody is there.

What my experience was, I don't know.

I can't really say, but it definitely got my attention.

I don't know who it is. And I'm hoping you find out.

This mirror has been here since the beginning.

What I love about it is that it's had a view of everyone

who's passed through this house for 127 years.

Hm.

This is just the gateway to this extraordinary house

and its legacy and its history.

Has anybody ever said that they see anything

come out of it?

I have not heard that.

I had...

[ beeping ]

hm?

I haven't heard that in the two years I've been here.

-Yeah. -Other than this just

awkward feeling when people stand in front of it.

-Yeah. -So we're gonna start here.

This is da vinci.

[ beeping ]

it keeps popping off.

I don't know what the deal is, but...

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this is a fairly active room.

One particular guest told me a story.

She wore her headphones because her husband snored.

[ chuckles ]

and she said that she was

very conscious of a person trying to whisper in her ear.

And because she was wearing the headphones,

she actually said they were blowing in her ear,

like someone's trying to get your attention.

Hm. Interesting.

There's a great picture here on the fireplace

that shows the patterson family,

their first christmas here in the house...

Wow. ...In 1893.

Oh, that's them there. You'll see the curtain.

That's how you know which room we're in.

This is as it was, three, when the pattersons lived here.

Wow.

[ beeping ]

-okay. -Was that the emf?

Jack: Yeah, it's the mel on it.

[ beeping continues ]

the mel meter was acting up.

It definitely was anomalous,

and there were a couple spaces that, when it was in,

it was just getting triggered a lot.

I think we are inadvertently digging into these deaths.

Are they actually the spirits of the residents of this place?

Is it something we don't know about?

Was there something sinister going on here?

I don't know.

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so I have a personal experience in this room.

Okay. It was a little over

a year ago.

Sitting down here, I had a bartender

working that day, and I told him my long term plan

for the house, and there was a flash of light.

And both the bartender and I jump out of the chairs.

We go looking for the light. It was a ball.

Bright orb right here.

Inside the doorway. The door was open.

And we looked everywhere. We looked in the hallway.

I was actually sitting right here,

so I saw the light right there in that mirror.

So you saw it, the reflection on it. Wow.

So I saw it through the mirror, and the bartender was

looking right at it. That's interesting. Hm.

How long ago was this, chris?

It was October of 2018.

Alright. Where do we go from here?

Let's go. We're gonna go upstairs.

[ beeping ]

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hm. That's weird.

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[ floor boards creaking ]

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this is the staircase, of course, where I told you

my friend recently felt like someone

walked up behind them.

Yeah.

And so you'll be here overnight.

See what your experience is.

Yeah. I'm not surprised about that.

You can feel it when you go up the steps.

Anything, though, historically that we know

about the second floor as far as deaths?

Yes, there was.

Mrs. Patterson passes away likely in this room.

She died in this house in 1904.

When their daughters died here in the house,

I do believe that she is still in her home.

Senator patterson, this was his bedroom,

and likely passed in that room.

Of a heart attack, right? Right.

Want to go upstairs? Yeah.

You ready for this? Yeah, I'm ready.

You know, it's kind of hard on a paranormal level

because, you know, this is an old property,

a lot of different people have lived through these walls.

So I think there's a lot of different history to go through.

Come on.

It's a long little hallway.

Can we confirm some of these things?

And does it have anything to do with the haunting?

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this is the window that I was yelled at from.

Okay. There's a story

that workers were renovating the house to turn it,

I believe, into apartments, and they kept complaining

that tools were going missing.

So the owner put two dobermans in the house

to try to thwart whatever was going on.

They figured it was squatters or vagrants.

The very next morning, the two dogs are found

supposedly dead from fright, laying side by side,

paw to paw on the steps of that staircase

right outside this window.

The rumor is, the way it's told as denver folklore,

is that the spirits of the house

scared the dogs to death and then removed them

from the house through this window.

[ glass shatters, dogs whimpering ]

I feel sick in here. Can we, um...

I feel nauseous.

Katrina: I feel sick in here.

Is there anything else?

I do. I feel sick in here.

Chiari: After you. Okay.

Do other people say that?

Again, general sense of unease...

Yeah. ...Is common.

I feel nauseous.

When we were in the tower room,

I started to get very nauseous.

I don't know if that was paranormal

or if it's something to do with the structure.

Right now, I can't make any claims on what it was,

but I think it's just something for us to really pay attention

to as we move through our investigation.

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I want to take you to one of my favorite rooms now.

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so welcome. This is prague.

When I brought my new gm on,

he stayed in this room for two weeks, and every day,

he said he felt like someone was watching him or staring.

This is an active room, equal to da vinci,

which is the other most talked about active room.

Do you think there's anything negative here?

It has that history. Mm-hmm.

I'd like a little more clarity.

I've had my own experiences.

I've heard the guests' experiences.

I'm really curious to see what you have.

Chris knows he's had experiences.

He knows other people have had them.

But he wants to know, is what I'm thinking

about these experiences correct?

And if we can get any evidence to back up those claims,

then it might give him some more clarification.

Jack: So it's day two here at croke-patterson.

We're meeting with jordan and ann.

Ann? Yes.

Hi. Katrina. And jordan?

-Jordan. -Hey, nice to meet you.

They wrote a book about the haunted history

of the croke-patterson house.

And we're going to kind of pick their brains

and find out about their experience,

the things they uncovered with the research.

I hope to get some insight from people who've spent

a huge amount of time investigating this location.

So you guys researched this, the book comes out,

and you also did a paranormal investigation.

What were some of the biggest "a-ha" moments you guys had

when you were looking into this?

Well, the first series of things that happened,

a fabulous psychic met me here.

She walked in, immediately saw a woman

on the stairs right here on the landing.

And she came right here and stopped and turned around

and looked at the mirror and then looked up.

Said there was a vortex, and she said,

"this is where it all starts.

This is the heart of the house."

and then the woman on the stairs

led us up into the bathroom on the second floor,

and she took two steps in the bathroom

and just doubled over.

And she said, "this is death, and this is suicide.

This is death."

I started to feel like I couldn't breathe.

I look at her, and she said,

"don't panic. Just take deep breaths.

There's a woman that died here. She committed suicide.

And it was some sort of gas.

And you're feeling the effects of that.

It will pass."

jack: Did you guys ever come across any evidence,

any documentation? [ laughs ]

jordan did.

A gentleman named archer sudan owned the house.

And we found a death certificate for his first wife.

Tulleen sudan killed herself in the house.

Jack: Interesting. And it says

cyanogas, she killed herself.

So essentially water and rat poison.

So dr. Sudan did a lot of travelling.

She was a nurse but didn't practice.

Is it your belief that there is

something negative here?

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

What is the negative thing?

The negative energy for me is probably here

at the base of the stairs.

It's all kind of contained here, I feel.

But I don't know what it is.

Like, I couldn't tell you if it's, like, a person or thing.

Jack: Whoa. What was that?

Katrina: Did you just see something?

I thought out of my periphery, I saw, like,

it just looked like someone with their arm

on the rail just looking down.

Someone was watching us.

Jack: Whoa. What was that?

Katrina: Did you just see something?

I thought out of my periphery,

I saw, like, it just looked like someone with

their arm on the on the rail just looking down.

Someone was watching us.

It's interesting because it's when we were

talking about the negative thing

and you were saying whatever it is is

in this area.

-It's right here. -Yeah.

It's always right here.

And that's -- people have experienced

what jack has experienced before.

Oh, yeah, people think that -- I mean, they always say,

"who's upstairs? Who's looking down?

-Okay. -Alright.

[ laughter ]

-have fun. -Yeah.

-Will do. -Thank you.

Katrina: I'm really pleased with meeting

with jordan and ann and talking with them.

It was really, really interesting.

Number one, they seemed completely credible to me.

They seemed like their biggest mission was to tell

the story of this house and not just exploit rumors or legend.

They really wanted to get to the bottom

of why people are having these experiences here.

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jack and I are gonna set up for the night investigation.

And jack has a great idea of kind of feeling out the space,

see what we get, and then we're going to

call in our friend cindy kaza.

She is a psychic medium.

Yeah, where does -- where can this go?

Katrina: The hope with bringing in cindy

is that if we have some questions,

cindy can help us fill in those holes.

Great.

Alright, so the light panels are all set.

Okay.

Kill the lights.

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okay, so camera one, we have the heart of the house,

the kind of entryway.

Camera 2, we have

the second floor stairway landing,

like where I thought I saw someone looking over at me.

Three is in the tower, like the turret,

where the dogs allegedly threw themselves out the window.

Camera five is the third floor hallway.

Room six is the basement.

This used to be the smoking room of

senator patterson.

So our mission is to figure out

who it is that's here, if we know who they are.

Is there a history of them being here?

Is there a portal here bringing spirits in?

You know, a lot of people say there's a vortex or a portal

in the heart of the building.

That could be one.

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-hey, katrina. -Hey.

-How you doing? -What's going on?

I thought a good strategy would be

maybe do like a big call out being like,

"hey, we're here. We're just documenting.

We're not trying to, you know, get rid of you.

This is your home."

and, yeah, we'll kind of go from there.

I like to do this. Let's do this.

Grab that gear.

Katrina: So there's a couple hot spots here in house.

Jack's gonna start in the da vinci room,

I'm going to start in the prague room,

and see what kind of results we get from that.

There are people that claim a very strong male presence

in the prague room, and they feel watched.

♪♪

I'm gonna leave this right here.

[ beeping ]

all right, if anyone's in this room, any spirits,

any entities, make the light change on this device.

Just get close to it, and you see if you touch it...

[ beeping ]

...It'll change, so do that.

So I'll probably just start off with a voice session here.

See if anything talks through.

Maybe it can give me some answers as to the questions

surrounding this room

or at least lead me to where I need to go.

So I'm gonna talk to whoever is in this room, specifically.

Chris, who owns the building now,

he'd really like to know who you are.

Can you tell me who the man is in this room?

This is a communication device. You talk to me through this.

♪♪

[ beeping ]

jack: That's a temperature change.

That's very odd.

♪♪

[ beeping ]

♪♪

all right, the rem pod just began to get triggered

from temperature.

It is a drafty house, but I'm just --

I'm not feeling like a draft come through here.

I shut the curtain, and I reset the temperature gauge.

So if it still plummets, something to watch out for.

Whose bedroom am I in?

Is it mr. Patterson?

♪♪

is it patterson that comes to this room?

Mr. Patterson?

Yes.

Okay.

Senator patterson, why do you come to this room?

Do you like to be on the third floor?

♪♪

how are you still with us?

I'm talking to maybe patterson?

♪♪

seems like very random things coming through right now.

Okay, so you've seen the temperature shift.

Can you do it when I ask you to?

I'm going to ask you a question,

and make that beep like you've been doing.

Did you die in this house?

Are you a male?

Are you female?

[ beeping ]

that thing's going off.

[ beeping continues ]

did you used to live here?

I don't know what to make of it, but it did seem like

there was some intelligent kind of responses

coming through.

I'd ask a question, and then it would seem...

[ beeping ]

like now.

Who are you?

Was that tulleen?

Katherine?

Yeah, I think maybe I want to go out into the hallway,

bring the rem pod there,

and we'll see what we pick up in the hallway.

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all right, heart of the house.

♪♪

got my rem pod sat right here.

♪♪

make that rem pod light up. We're in the heart of the house.

Everyone said this is where it all happens.

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the thought is when you relax your gaze

and you kind of just like sink into your focus,

people believe that entities or messages or visions

can come through to you.

So this is scrying.

Basically, you just look at yourself in the mirror

or you look at a fixed object in the reflection of the mirror,

and you just relax your gaze.

♪♪

you just hear that?

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is that someone [bleep] walking in the basement?

Did you just [bleep] hear that?

♪♪

is that someone [bleep] walking in the basement?

Did you just [bleep] hear that?

Katrina, I'm hearing positive footsteps

in the basement right now.

You're hearing footsteps in the basement?

Yeah. I mean, that was clear as day.

All right. I'm coming to you.

That was [bleep] loud and scary.

♪♪

clear as day. I just heard...

[ stomping feet ]

did it sound like on the staircase?

It sounded like it was in the parlor.

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do we want to go down to the basement?

I think we should go to the basement.

You're hearing footsteps? Let's do it.

Jack: You know, hearing those footsteps

get me fired up a little bit.

I don't know what to make of it,

but it's creepy here.

It feels weird down here.

Yeah.

Ooh, yeah.

Ooh, ooh, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it's a little tingly.

Huh? Yeah. Just a bit.

Is patterson and here? Senator patterson?

Oh, I just got the chills, big time, big time.

Oh, I do not like it down here.

No? No.

Who was walking around down here?

Could you walk around for us some more,

make some more footsteps that we can hear?

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I thought I heard "sudan" come through, by the way.

Yeah, I heard that.

It's really clear.

Tulleen?

Tulleen, are you down here with us?

Nurse.

Tulleen sudan, she was a nurse.

Yeah, that would

have been tulleen. Yeah.

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who's down here with us right now?

Can you bang on something? Knock a wall?

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tulleen?

"yes, ma'am."

where do we go to talk to you better?

"this house."

do you mean anywhere in the house?

I heard "the bathroom."

the bathroom?

Yeah, the bathroom.

Which bathroom?

I wonder if they're talking about

the royale bathroom.

If we keep getting things connected to tulleen.

And that's where that one psychic really felt that

that suicide happened.

She took two steps in the bathroom and just doubled over.

And she said, "there's a woman that died here.

She committed suicide. And it was some sort of gas.

And you're feeling the effects of that.

It will pass."

maybe we should check that out.

You know, either confirm it or rule it out.

Yeah.

'cause something's weird happening.

They're claiming that's where she killed herself.

There's proof she did die here from suicide.

Since we've started ghost box sessions,

we keep having things that seem to be connected

to tulleen come through.

I mean, if we're taking a look collectively

at everything we've had so far, it would make sense.

So it's either her or somebody talking about her.

♪♪

it's cold in here.

Yeah.

♪♪

is tulleen sudan here?

Is anyone here with us right now?

♪♪

poison?

Whoa, I heard that.

Is anyone here with us right now?

♪♪

poison?

Whoa, I heard that.

Can you tell us why?

What do you want us to know?

♪♪

"she died here." yeah, I heard that.

-That's what it just said? -Yeah. "she died here."

I heard that.

Jordan: Archer sudan owned the house, and his first wife,

tulleen sudan, killed herself in the house.

And it says cyanogas. She killed herself.

What drove her to kill herself?

Is there a dark energy here?

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it's weird. It seemed like it died down here.

Yeah. Feels different.

Yeah.

Jack: I mean, whatever is coming through on the geo port,

we're getting really intelligent responses,

so I'm hoping to maybe get some clarity to what's going on.

Do you want me to run down and get cindy?

Okay, yeah, that sounds good.

♪♪

so right now, our friend and psychic medium,

cindy kaza, has arrived.

You ready to roll? Yep.

All right.

We're going to see if she can validate

our experiences that we've had so far.

We still have some holes. We still have some questions.

And I feel like she's kind of, I'm looking at her right now

as our glue to put our puzzle together.

We just want to set you loose.

Ooh, alright. And just...

Let you kind of take the lead almost.

I want to go upstairs. Okay.

Yeah.

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there's just a lot in this house.

The house itself feels possessed,

for lack of a better term.

There's definitely a portal here.

That's for damn sure.

Do you know where it is?

It feels like the whole house is a portal.

Where do you want to go from here?

Um...

I want to go -- I'm gonna just leave.

I'm just gonna go this way.

♪♪

okay, um...

Uh...

Has anybody seen a woman that walks across this hallway?

Because she's here.

Do people say they see something on the stairs?

I've heard that before.

Out of my periphery, I saw, like,

it just looked like someone with their arm on the rail

just looking down.

Someone was watching us.

She likes to sit on the couch

and just walk back and forth.

I can just feel her here.

She's just very connected to this space.

Okay.

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the man -- there's a man who died of a heart attack

in this house because as I walk in here,

I see the man dropping dead of a massive heart attack,

just falling to the floor.

Bam.

Chiari: Senator patterson likely passed in that room.

Katrina: Of a heart attack, right?

Right.

He died so fast that I feel like

he didn't even realize that he died.

So he's kind of wandering around, like, not really sure

how he got to the other side because it was so fast.

And he hangs out in this house.

He's very active in his house.

And is he a good spirit?

He's fine. Like, he's not a problem.

He's actually quite charming.

Alright.

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what is this? A watchtower?

Can I ask you a very specific question...

Yes. ...In this room?

There are rumors that these dogs

jumped out of this tower room to commit suicide.

Are you picking up anything relating to why

or what caused that?

You know, I honestly have to tell you,

I don't think that that was paranormal.

So you feel like it was, like, a human person?

Yeah, I feel like it has to do with a human

or something scared them.

And that's what it was.

I don't think it's a ghost or an entity

that did that.

Katrina: Okay.

Was there a woman who isolated herself

for months on end?

Can you hone in a little bit more?

The man who had the heart attack,

that's her husband.

So his wife, katherine.

That's who it is. She's here.

She's the lady of the house.

Okay. The lady of the house.

She's got unfinished business with some things

that happened in her life when she lived in this house.

So that's why she's here?

That's why I feel she's here.

Has anybody seen her staring out the window?

Yeah.

My first paranormal experience was a ghost

up there in this tower.

People can see her staring at the window.

But it's not that she's trapped in that space.

-Okay. -She just comes for

a looksy-loo. -Yeah.

Because she wants people to acknowledge her presence

because he didn't do that as much as you should have.

Mm. Right.

All right. Let's go to the cellar.

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jack: I don't like it down here.

Katrina: So we have some very specific questions for you.

You've touched on some tragedy, some sadness in the space.

There is documentation of a woman committing suicide

in 1950.

I feel like that's the woman upstairs.

This is the staircase, of course.

Felt like someone walked up behind them.

Katrina: Yeah, I'm not surprised about that.

You can feel it when you go up the steps.

She likes to walk back and forth.

Are you sure she killed herself?

Because I really don't feel suicide.

Cindy: Are you sure she killed herself?

Because I really don't feel suicide.

Can I give you a name? 100%.

Sure. See if it taps in?

Tulleen. Tulleen?

Cindy was using a technique called automatic writing.

It's almost like just verbalize what you are hearing.

It's you just write it, and, you know,

she kind of says she has no control over her hand

and just whatever comes out comes out.

Okay, that's interesting. So here's the thing.

I just heard, "I did do it, but he helped me."

so there's somebody who helped her do it.

There's got to be somebody who either got her

something to do it or knew she was going to do it.

Can you ask her who?

"he got the --" well, I'm writing "medicine."

that's what I'm hearing -- "medicine."

but it obviously wasn't medicine.

So there's a man who worked here who helped her do it.

So she did do it, but she had help.

Okay.

Her husband was a doctor, yeah.

And she was a nurse.

No [bleep]

he had a part in her death. There's more to the story.

Would the owners of the house be targeted in a way

of having bad luck or tragedy?

A lot of times it becomes a psychological thing

where people believe that they're living in a curse place

or a possessed place, and then that's creating

all of the bad luck that happens in their lives.

But I do feel there's something in the walls of this house

that could potentially create some negative circumstances

for the people that live here.

I feel this place has always been a portal.

You definitely helped us fill some holes in.

Yeah. Good.

I think cindy's reading validates a lot of the history

that we know, but also more clarity of what

spirits are believed to be here.

And I think we have a lot to take to chris.

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how was your evening?

Chiari: My evening was good. How was your evening?

Eventful. Lots of things happened.

Have you guys ever heard walking

in the basement or around the basement

when you've been up here?

Well, upstairs hearing downstairs,

I have no experience there.

I'm gonna play you something.

I was right here in front of the mirror.

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did you hear it? I did.

Katrina: Is that explainable?

Uh, no. But I've heard that

the basement's really active. Yeah.

But actually hearing footsteps.

Yeah, it sound like someone with like fancy shoes...

[ chuckles ] ...Just walking.

We met with ann and jordan.

Have you met with them before?

I have not. You have not? Okay.

Okay, so they did a hell of a lot

of research on this place.

They actually wrote a book about it.

They were able to confirm one suicide in the house

that would have been in the upstairs bathroom

on the second floor in a royale room.

Tulleen sudan.

Okay. So they had a copy

of her death certificate.

We do know she committed suicide.

She was 48 when she did it.

She did it by mixing a couple chemicals together

and inhaling the gas.

One of the pieces of equipment we used,

they're called ghost boxes or voice boxes.

Surprisingly, we kept getting those name sudan

come through.

I thought I heard "sudan" come through, by the way.

Yeah, I heard it. Yeah, I heard that.

It was really clear.

We did bring in cindy kaza, who's a psychic medium,

and she was hitting on things that were fascinating.

I don't feel she killed herself

or something else that -- it was reported incorrectly

or things were covered up.

She kept saying, "there's more to the story,

this woman did not commit suicide."

and we were like, "well, what do you mean by that?"

and she's like, "she keeps talking about

the medicine, the medicine."

somebody gave her the medicine.

And then she either knowingly took it

to commit suicide or she did not know what she was doing.

But she very much felt

that there was more to that story,

and that's part of the reason why you would experience

tulleen here in this house.

And she feels like that's the woman

that people would see on the stairs.

Okay, that person likely walking up behind people.

Mm-hmm. She very much feels like her.

She likes to walk back and forth.

The other thing -- she does not believe

the dog incident was paranormal at all.

No, she just believes that they were, like,

scared out of here by someone

who was, like, chasing them and scaring them.

You know, I honestly have to tell you,

I don't think that that was paranormal.

Yeah. So you feel like it was like a human person?

Yeah, I feel like it has to do with a human

or something scared them.

She said the interesting thing about this place

is that it is kind of like a beacon or a portal

or whatever you want to call it,

that spirits from all over are drawn to it.

It's almost like, you know,

the moth to the flame.

They're drawn in, and they don't necessarily know why.

So it's just pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling.

I was hoping for katherine or thomas.

Well, so actually I did get thomas to come through

when I was in the prague room.

When cindy started to dive in on that,

she also felt like both of them were here.

She immediately picked up on katherine,

who she very strongly believes is here.

And she believes that's who you saw on your first day here.

Okay. And that katherine is

kind of the woman of the house.

You know? I believe that myself, so...

We asked about the bad luck.

Because it does seem like there's

a chain of bad luck here.

She thought it was more psychological on,

you know, the owners' part.

So meaning you come into this house

that's already charged, maybe you have some bad luck.

Maybe that gets into your head.

The next owner comes, already has that in their head.

And, you know, then it's cyclical like that.

So where you have this paranormal activity,

but then you'll also have the psychological element,

and they're kind of feeding into each other.

But I'm happy to hear that the pattersons are still here.

This is their house, and it gives me

a great privilege to know that I'm the caretaker

today for this legacy that's 120-plus years.

And I hope it's still here for 120 more.

I hope they have the thrill of walking these halls

for as long as possible.

I think that's great.

Sounds like you were just the right owner to come in.

Yeah.

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jack: I believe this hotel is haunted by numerous spirits.

Some of them made themselves known to us

through our investigation last night.

I think that there is a lot of evidence to back that up.

This is a straight up haunted hotel.

Croke-patterson?

Definitely haunted.

I would absolutely say that.

You know, something that was coming up the whole time

seemed to be portals. It did.

By all accounts, a lot of people believe that

this place has one.

We've had so many experiences that line up

with other people's experiences.

So what's to say a portal isn't true?

Absolutely. Well, there you have it.

Croke-patterson.

I think this place is a portal.

We don't throw that title around very often,

but I think there could be something here.

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