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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:42,176 --> 00:00:47,381 [ Helicopter Blades Whirring ] 4 00:00:59,693 --> 00:01:01,295 [ Male Newscaster ] In Vail, Colorado, 5 00:01:01,329 --> 00:01:04,532 the nation's busiest ski resort was hit today by a fire. 6 00:01:04,565 --> 00:01:06,500 Arson is suspected. 7 00:01:08,502 --> 00:01:10,838 [ Male Newscaster #2 ] You may have heard of the Earth Liberation Front. 8 00:01:10,871 --> 00:01:14,575 The attorney general himself says it's a domestic terrorist organization. 9 00:01:14,608 --> 00:01:18,412 The F.B.I. says it is one of the most dangerous groups in the country. 10 00:01:18,446 --> 00:01:20,748 [ Male Newscaster #3 ] The E.L.F. has claimed responsibility... 11 00:01:20,781 --> 00:01:24,585 for more than two dozen major acts of ecoterrorism since 1996. 12 00:01:24,618 --> 00:01:26,887 [ Male Newscaster #4 ] The fire bombings include attacks on lumber mills, 13 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,524 wild horse corrals and two meatpacking plants. 14 00:01:30,558 --> 00:01:33,427 [ Male Newscaster #5 ] So far, not one of the cases has ever been solved, 15 00:01:33,461 --> 00:01:35,763 and authorities acknowledge they know next to nothing... 16 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:39,167 about the membership or the leadership of the organization. 17 00:01:58,819 --> 00:02:01,555 [ Man Narrating ] On December 7, 2005, 18 00:02:01,589 --> 00:02:04,225 four federal agents entered my wife's office... 19 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:07,295 and arrested one of her employees-- Daniel McGowan. 20 00:02:10,931 --> 00:02:13,167 It was part of a nationwide roundup... 21 00:02:13,201 --> 00:02:15,436 that eventually netted 14 members... 22 00:02:15,469 --> 00:02:19,207 of the radical environmental group, the Earth Liberation Front. 23 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,175 [ Camera Shutters Clicking ] 24 00:02:21,209 --> 00:02:22,910 In all, their trail of destruction resulted... 25 00:02:22,943 --> 00:02:25,646 in millions of dollars of property damage. 26 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:27,948 Today's indictment is a significant step... 27 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:30,651 in bringing these terrorists to justice. 28 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,288 [ Narrator ] Weeks after his arrest, 29 00:02:34,322 --> 00:02:37,358 Daniel's sister put up everything she owned for bail, 30 00:02:37,391 --> 00:02:39,427 and he was placed on house arrest in her apartment... 31 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:41,762 to wait for trial. 32 00:02:52,940 --> 00:02:55,609 [ Water Running ] 33 00:02:57,678 --> 00:03:01,882 [ Daniel ] In 2001, I was involved with the Earth Liberation Front. 34 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:06,687 And I was involved in two separate arsons in one year. 35 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:10,291 I think, like, people look at my case, 36 00:03:10,324 --> 00:03:12,793 and they think, "What if that motherfucker burned down my house?" 37 00:03:14,362 --> 00:03:16,664 I think people think it's just a bunch of young crazies... 38 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,533 walking around with gas cans lighting shit on fire that pisses them off. 39 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:22,436 And then they think, "What if I burned things that pissed me off? 40 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:24,372 That's kinda crazy." You know? 41 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:26,240 Which it is kinda crazy. 42 00:03:26,274 --> 00:03:29,277 But I think people just need to understand that... 43 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:31,712 this thing is complex and it's not that simple. 44 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:40,721 It's hideous to be called a terrorist. 45 00:03:43,023 --> 00:03:44,858 There was no one in any of these facilities. 46 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,497 No one got hurt. No one was injured. 47 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:52,633 And yet I'm facing life plus 335 years. 48 00:03:55,336 --> 00:03:58,372 I split my time between talking to my lawyers. 49 00:03:58,406 --> 00:04:00,808 I do a lot of research on my case. 50 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:03,477 You know, all my legal documents-- 51 00:04:03,511 --> 00:04:07,981 DVDs and CDs and video and photos. Audiotapes. 52 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:10,584 Hi. This is Daniel McGowan. 53 00:04:10,618 --> 00:04:12,720 I know that my lawyer sent you the brief... 54 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:15,055 that is being filed with the court today, but it's basically about-- 55 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:17,024 [ Narrator ] As Daniel is preparing for trial, 56 00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:21,529 the government is putting pressure on him and his codefendants to take a deal. 57 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:24,765 Either they plead guilty and testify against each other... 58 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:28,302 or go to trial and risk life in prison. 59 00:04:28,336 --> 00:04:31,772 I told my lawyers at our first meeting, "Don't ever bring up cooperation as a tactic. 60 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:34,608 We're never gonna cooperate. You don't have that card in your back pocket. 61 00:04:34,642 --> 00:04:36,944 Don't bring it up." 62 00:04:36,977 --> 00:04:40,448 All the people in this group had conversations back in the day about this. 63 00:04:40,481 --> 00:04:43,484 Like, you know, "You get arrested, just don't say a word. 64 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:47,588 Just get a lawyer and, like, we'll, you know, join up and we'll see what happens." 65 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:50,691 Okay. Thanks, Andrea. I'll talk to you soon. Bye. 66 00:04:50,724 --> 00:04:52,025 [ Phone Slams On Cradle ] 67 00:04:55,996 --> 00:04:57,998 My family has done a tremendous amount of stuff for me. 68 00:04:58,031 --> 00:04:59,967 I mean, letting me live here. 69 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,936 But we choose to live our lives very differently. 70 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:05,973 Like, I compost. 71 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:08,809 I had never used a dishwasher in my life until I moved in here. 72 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:15,082 And I try not to impose my way of doing things on anyone here, 73 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:18,552 but, yeah, we have different ways of doing things. 74 00:05:18,586 --> 00:05:20,020 [ Phone Ringing ] 75 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:22,690 No, I don't think I need that, because we paint every edge. 76 00:05:22,723 --> 00:05:24,024 All right. 77 00:05:25,559 --> 00:05:27,461 All right. Bye. 78 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:31,832 [ Lisa ] I'd be a liar if I called myself an environmentalist. 79 00:05:31,865 --> 00:05:35,135 I mean, I care about the environment. I think about the environment. 80 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:37,405 Um-- 81 00:05:37,438 --> 00:05:39,607 I recycle. 82 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,042 But I don't recycle every single piece of paper like Danny does. 83 00:05:44,044 --> 00:05:46,847 When he came home from college, he lived with me in Rockland. 84 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,383 One day I came home, and he took the label... 85 00:05:49,417 --> 00:05:51,919 off every single canned good I had... 86 00:05:51,952 --> 00:05:54,588 because he was, like, so obsessed with recycling. 87 00:05:54,622 --> 00:05:57,658 He was like, "If we recycle, we have to take the labels off the cans." 88 00:05:57,691 --> 00:06:01,595 I said, "But you took the labels off every can. I don't even know what I have in the cans now. 89 00:06:01,629 --> 00:06:04,164 I don't know if they're soup. I don't know what kind of soup. 90 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:06,534 I don't know if they're peas or they're corn." 91 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:08,636 And he's like, "I never thought of that." 92 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:11,872 It was, like, I opened my cupboard, and there was just all tin cans. 93 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:16,176 I got a call from Jenny, 94 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,979 uh, totally hysterical, upset, 95 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:22,850 saying that some men came in and took Daniel from his job. 96 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:26,854 My dad's first reaction was like, "Oh, I don't know my son anymore." 97 00:06:26,887 --> 00:06:31,158 And I think he was just in shock. 98 00:06:31,191 --> 00:06:34,027 It's funny. Growing up, he wasn't the political kid that was fighting for anything. 99 00:06:34,061 --> 00:06:37,465 No, he was just a regular kid. 100 00:06:37,498 --> 00:06:39,500 Played with his friends, rode his bike. 101 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:41,969 It wasn't like he, you know, had this whole history. 102 00:06:42,002 --> 00:06:44,204 But, you know, you don't know what's inside someone until they get older... 103 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:46,273 and they start to think about who they are. 104 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:52,913 [ Daniel ] I was born in 1974 in Brooklyn. 105 00:06:55,215 --> 00:06:59,487 I moved to Rockaway when I was around three-- Rockaway Beach in Queens. 106 00:07:00,954 --> 00:07:03,757 It's like mostly, you know, working class people. 107 00:07:09,497 --> 00:07:12,500 My dad was a cop in the New York Police Department. 108 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:19,673 I went to high school at a place called Christ the King. 109 00:07:19,707 --> 00:07:21,074 Catholic high school. 110 00:07:22,109 --> 00:07:24,545 And I was a track runner, and, you know, 111 00:07:24,578 --> 00:07:27,615 I got scholarships and stuff like that. 112 00:07:27,648 --> 00:07:29,583 And then when I got to college, I was like, 113 00:07:29,617 --> 00:07:33,120 "Oh, I guess I'll major in Business, because that's practical." 114 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:35,489 When I graduated, I got a job... 115 00:07:35,523 --> 00:07:39,092 at a massive public relations company called Burson-Marsteller. 116 00:07:48,702 --> 00:07:50,971 During this time period, at some point along the way, 117 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:54,808 I ran into a woman collecting signatures at Union Square. 118 00:07:54,842 --> 00:07:56,810 She kept telling me about Wetlands-- 119 00:07:56,844 --> 00:07:59,112 the Wetlands Environmental Center. 120 00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:01,081 And that kinda was where it changed. 121 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:04,918 ** [ Rock, Indistinct ] 122 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,658 It was basically-- The idea was it was a bar that had live shows, 123 00:08:10,691 --> 00:08:13,260 but the profits would go to running an environmental center. 124 00:08:13,293 --> 00:08:16,096 So I went to this meeting, 125 00:08:16,129 --> 00:08:19,032 and they played these films that blew my mind. 126 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:18,058 I had never seen with my own eyes... 127 00:09:18,091 --> 00:09:20,260 what kind of world we lived in. 128 00:09:23,096 --> 00:09:25,065 I feel like I'm in perpetual mourning, 129 00:09:25,098 --> 00:09:28,035 and I have been from the moment that, like-- 130 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:30,370 I don't know-- I kind of took the blinders off and was, like, 131 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:32,205 "Holy crap. What the hell are we doing?" 132 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,913 And I got involved pretty much instantly. 133 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:44,284 I protested constantly. 134 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,154 I did letter writing a lot. 135 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:49,022 I did letter writing every week at Wetlands. 136 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,825 I wrote hundreds of protest letters to all sorts of different agencies. 137 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,663 And at the time they announced that there was gonna be... 138 00:09:55,696 --> 00:09:58,866 a national gathering in Crandon, Wisconsin. 139 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,835 So I went. 140 00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:04,237 You know, I mean, I was shy. A city kid. I didn't-- 141 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,807 I mean, I liked nature as a concept, 142 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,242 but I was, like, never had slept outside before in my whole life. 143 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:10,944 I was like 22. 144 00:10:15,683 --> 00:10:19,386 It was, like, different than anything I have ever seen. 145 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:21,421 We went swimming in, like, a creek. 146 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:23,724 We were, like, going out on logs and jumping off. 147 00:10:23,757 --> 00:10:26,059 We were skinny-dipping. I mean, all this stuff was new. 148 00:10:28,361 --> 00:10:31,765 You know, traditionally at the end of the rendezvous, they have a big action. 149 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,703 We went to town and had a protest at the mine office. 150 00:10:35,736 --> 00:10:37,771 And I actually ended up being arrested. 151 00:10:40,007 --> 00:10:42,442 And it was really eye opening, you know, 152 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:45,445 to kinda learn about this different world... 153 00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:47,981 and this, like, environmental resistance movement. 154 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:08,401 [ Man ] I'm a fourth-generation Oregonian. 155 00:11:08,435 --> 00:11:10,237 Um, grew up in Eugene. 156 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:16,877 My brother works in a mill. My uncles own mills. 157 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:20,147 It's something that, if you're from the Northwest, 158 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:21,681 it's something you do. 159 00:11:28,889 --> 00:11:31,825 I think I met Daniel here in Eugene. 160 00:11:31,859 --> 00:11:33,193 They called him, uh, 161 00:11:33,226 --> 00:11:35,362 "the disgruntled one," 162 00:11:35,395 --> 00:11:38,031 just because he had sort of this nasty sort of attitude... 163 00:11:38,065 --> 00:11:39,366 and he was always sort of bitter. 164 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:41,368 And he was always sort of pissed off... 165 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:45,238 and he'd always challenge people for their "stupid ideas." 166 00:11:45,272 --> 00:11:50,978 And so, uh, you know, they sort of coined this nickname for him, "the disgruntled one." 167 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:56,750 I think Daniel arrived out here about '99-- 1999. 168 00:11:56,784 --> 00:12:00,520 But to really understand, you know, why these arsons were set, 169 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:02,522 I think you gotta go all the way back... 170 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:06,093 to a time when Daniel was still living back east. 171 00:12:06,126 --> 00:12:10,764 You gotta go to about 1995, which was, uh, the Warner Creek timber sale. 172 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:16,870 Warner Creek's about 50 miles east of Eugene, 173 00:12:16,904 --> 00:12:19,439 and it's probably one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. 174 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:25,112 And in 1995, the Forest Service decided to open it up for logging. 175 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:29,917 People went up there and created a blockade... 176 00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:32,920 on a federal logging road to try to prevent, 177 00:12:32,953 --> 00:12:36,056 you know, the logging of this place. 178 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:38,491 So we created a documentary called Pickaxe, 179 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:41,128 which is the story of Warner Creek. 180 00:12:41,161 --> 00:12:42,996 [ Man Over Walkie-talkie ] There's more vehicles on the way. Over. 181 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:46,800 [ Man #2 ] One grader followed by one Dudley. 182 00:12:53,841 --> 00:12:55,508 We don't think you guys have the right... 183 00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:59,346 to take a protected forest teeming with life, you know, bid it and log it. 184 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,951 [ Lewis ] For a long time, people were fighting the Forest Service... 185 00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:07,220 through, like, holding signs, letter writing-- 186 00:13:07,254 --> 00:13:11,224 sort of a sort of a hippie-type approach to protest. 187 00:13:11,258 --> 00:13:14,962 But there was this new kind of protest that was becoming popular. 188 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:21,902 People would call it sabotage, or monkey-wrenching. 189 00:13:21,935 --> 00:13:25,238 They would glue locks. They'd pull up survey stakes. 190 00:13:25,272 --> 00:13:29,476 They would maybe put sugar in gas tanks of bulldozers. 191 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:32,445 At Warner Creek, you know, just a simple little blockade... 192 00:13:32,479 --> 00:13:34,481 turned into an all-out assault... 193 00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:37,250 on the only way into that forest. 194 00:13:39,619 --> 00:13:41,922 Protesters dug a series of trenches... 195 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:44,925 to keep logging trucks from getting to the forest. 196 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:48,395 And then they built the wall. 197 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:53,066 It looked like an old fort from the wild, wild West... 198 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:55,068 and it had a drawbridge, 199 00:13:55,102 --> 00:13:59,472 and it was really a cool blockade. 200 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:02,910 We're drawing a line in the sand, and you can't come in here and destroy this place. 201 00:14:05,478 --> 00:14:08,515 And they stayed up there for about a year. 202 00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:11,851 [ Protestors Chattering ] 203 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:24,531 As a federal law enforcement officer, it is my duty to inform you that you're in violation. 204 00:14:24,564 --> 00:14:27,901 You have five minutes to get out of here, and you have actually less than five minutes. 205 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:32,505 [ Lewis ] Early one morning, the Forest Service came up-- 206 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:35,108 [ Female Officer Chattering ] and arrested the protesters-- 207 00:14:35,142 --> 00:14:38,211 - Okay. - and knocked down the wall. 208 00:14:43,183 --> 00:14:48,055 That created a lot of bitterness toward the Forest Service. 209 00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:54,494 And soon after, things began to escalate. 210 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:03,536 The first time I met Jacob Ferguson was at Warner Creek. 211 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:08,108 He was sort of a cool dude. He didn't say much. He just did a lot of work. 212 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:11,078 But I think it's really hard to know Jacob Ferguson... 213 00:15:11,111 --> 00:15:14,147 unless you're on the in-- inside of Jacob's life. 214 00:15:14,181 --> 00:15:17,017 This is the house I moved into right over here. 215 00:15:17,050 --> 00:15:20,587 And right at that time, Jacob Ferguson was living right over there. 216 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:23,090 But Jacob, uh, was a pirate. 217 00:15:23,123 --> 00:15:27,260 He was, uh-- He was definitely, um, an outlaw. 218 00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:29,029 ** [ Punk ] 219 00:15:37,137 --> 00:15:41,008 ** [ Continues ] 220 00:15:41,041 --> 00:15:43,143 Yeah! 221 00:15:43,176 --> 00:15:45,612 [ Lewis ] He tried to play a bad boy image, and he did it well, 222 00:15:45,645 --> 00:15:47,580 because I think he really was one. 223 00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:50,483 After Warner Creek, 224 00:15:50,517 --> 00:15:53,086 I think he really felt... 225 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,624 that the Forest Service was getting away with stuff. 226 00:15:57,657 --> 00:16:02,462 I think most of America feels the U.S. Forest Service's job is to protect the forest. 227 00:16:02,495 --> 00:16:06,633 But the Forest Service is a part of the Department of Agriculture. 228 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:09,036 And the Department of Agriculture... 229 00:16:09,069 --> 00:16:12,139 looks upon these forests as crops. 230 00:16:14,374 --> 00:16:18,311 The U.S. Forest Service's real job is to provide trees for these timber companies... 231 00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:21,214 so they can cut these trees from our national forests. 232 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:26,286 They were cutting down these massive old-growth trees, 233 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:29,989 up to 750, even a thousand years old that were just massive. 234 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:40,633 But I think Jake was tired of the talk. 235 00:16:43,136 --> 00:16:46,339 He was tired of just, you know, philosophizing. 236 00:16:46,373 --> 00:16:49,609 "You guys," you know-- "You through talking shit now, or what? 237 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:51,244 Let's do it." 238 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,251 [ People Chattering ] 239 00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:13,166 [ Clicks ] 240 00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:16,703 [ Man ] This investigation was... 241 00:17:16,736 --> 00:17:18,438 the largest domestic terrorism case... 242 00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:21,408 in the history of the United States. 243 00:17:21,441 --> 00:17:25,378 And the very first E.L.F. action that occurred in the United States... 244 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:28,748 occurred at two ranger stations in the district of Oregon. 245 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:33,353 Mainstream, legitimate environmental activists... 246 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:36,223 were absolutely shocked... 247 00:17:36,256 --> 00:17:38,858 and disgusted with the fire, 248 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:41,861 and they saw the burning of the Oakridge Ranger Station... 249 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:44,164 as a public relations disaster. 250 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:49,169 [ Narrator ] In the months after the ranger station fires, 251 00:17:49,202 --> 00:17:52,272 there was a split within the environmental movement. 252 00:17:52,305 --> 00:17:56,543 In Eugene, which was quickly becoming a hotbed of activism, 253 00:17:56,576 --> 00:18:01,348 a growing community of younger environmentalists cheered on the arsons. 254 00:18:01,381 --> 00:18:05,118 But most environmentalists argued that, in a democracy, 255 00:18:05,152 --> 00:18:07,720 public protest was still a better way of making change. 256 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:09,356 [ Chattering, Indistinct ] 257 00:18:09,389 --> 00:18:12,159 In the summer of '97, 258 00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:14,827 just a few months after the ranger station fires, 259 00:18:14,861 --> 00:18:17,564 an event took place in downtown Eugene... 260 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:20,567 that for many shook up the debate. 261 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,202 [ Lewis ] There was this place downtown... 262 00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:26,673 that had 40 old heritage trees-- just beautiful. 263 00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:29,342 And they were gonna put in a parking lot for Symantec, 264 00:18:29,376 --> 00:18:31,144 this big corporation next door. 265 00:18:31,178 --> 00:18:33,346 And they were gonna cut down the trees to do it. 266 00:18:34,914 --> 00:18:37,584 [ Narrator ] Activists began mobilizing to save the trees, 267 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:41,321 but as they prepared to take the issue to the next city council meeting, 268 00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:43,723 the city suddenly announced that it would cut the trees... 269 00:18:43,756 --> 00:18:45,758 one day before that public hearing. 270 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,464 [ Lewis ] On Sunday morning, about 2:30 in the morning, 271 00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:54,934 about 11 people went up into the trees... 272 00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:57,570 to prevent them from being cut. 273 00:18:57,604 --> 00:18:58,905 We just went and did it, 274 00:18:58,938 --> 00:19:01,474 hoping that we could stave off the cutting... 275 00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:03,810 for one day until that public hearing. 276 00:19:03,843 --> 00:19:08,715 Just for one day so the citizens could talk to the city council... 277 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:10,550 the next day about saving them. 278 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,719 [ Flynn ] They came in right away wearing riot gear... 279 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:15,355 and gas masks and stuff like that. 280 00:19:15,388 --> 00:19:18,891 So, uh, bang, bang, bang on the door at 8:00 in the morning. 281 00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:21,294 Some kid says, "Get out there! Get out there! 282 00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:23,963 They're pepper-spraying them in the trees! Get your camera. You gotta get there! 283 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:25,498 I mean, they're pepper-spraying them right now!" 284 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,535 [ Man ] Hang in there, Jim! 285 00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,805 [ Flynn ] They came up in the fire truck bucket, 286 00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:37,910 and they cut my pants leg up to my groin... 287 00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:40,447 so they could spray my leg with pepper spray. 288 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,584 Cutting, you know, their pants and pepper-spraying them in the ass... 289 00:19:44,617 --> 00:19:46,986 and pepper-spraying them in the balls... 290 00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:49,789 while they were hanging from the limbs 40 feet up. 291 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,858 People were on the street looking at this and going, 292 00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:54,694 "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" 293 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,696 And so people were radicalized. 294 00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,331 They started jumping on the fence and going, 295 00:19:58,365 --> 00:20:00,500 "Quit that shit!" [ Shouting ] 296 00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:03,803 [ Flynn ] They're tear-gassing the crowd and pepper-spraying the crowd. 297 00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:06,673 It was just a crazy, frantic scene that day. 298 00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,876 [ Shouting Continues ] 299 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:17,917 [ Lewis ] And they used about 12 to 15 cans on Flynn, 300 00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:22,889 and he stayed up for, I think, about six or seven hours, man. 301 00:20:27,427 --> 00:20:29,329 [ Man ] No! 302 00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:35,335 [ Flynn ] And then they flushed me with a bunch of water, 303 00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,870 took me to the hospital and then took me to jail. 304 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,707 So for the next, you know, 35 hours, 305 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,775 I was soaking in pepper spray. 306 00:20:42,809 --> 00:20:44,744 My hands were orange for a week. 307 00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:48,348 And so the argument that you need to work within the system... 308 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:51,818 was pretty well dashed by what the cops did on that day in Eugene. 309 00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,754 [ Protestors Shouting ] 310 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:58,291 And June 1 was really the day... 311 00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,893 that pissed off a lot of people in this town. 312 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:07,334 [ Horns Honking ] 313 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,006 [ Daniel ] I remember reading about it. 314 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,775 People were like, "Oh, we have this footage." 315 00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:17,744 And, you know, it was really intense. 316 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:20,447 And that kind of stuff, like-- that's part of the story. 317 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,349 That was, like, part of the backdrop. [ Shouting ] 318 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,620 It's crazy. It's crazy. I think a lot of moments like that... 319 00:21:27,654 --> 00:21:30,657 really erode people's belief that anything can actually change. 320 00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:36,896 Next week it's four months that I'm on house arrest. 321 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:38,931 [ Man On Radio ] There is no construction on-- [ Continues, Indistinct ] 322 00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:41,668 My days here are really tedious. 323 00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:43,936 [ Spraying ] It's just really hard to focus and do anything. 324 00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:49,742 Just thinking about my future and how uncertain it is. 325 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:53,446 I get really sad at night, you know. 326 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,882 I prefer to sleep straight through so I don't have those moments, 327 00:21:55,915 --> 00:21:57,850 but I have them almost every night, so-- 328 00:21:59,686 --> 00:22:01,988 I've been doing okay though, you know, all things considered. 329 00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,723 I mean, I feel like, on one level, 330 00:22:03,756 --> 00:22:05,825 I just have to be really thankful for what I have, 331 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:09,629 which is, like, a good family and really good friends, 332 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,565 and so I try to, like, keep things in perspective. 333 00:22:16,636 --> 00:22:17,804 Hold on one second. 334 00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,406 Hi. Hey. How are you? 335 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:20,773 Great. How you doing? Good. 336 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:23,943 [ Narrator ] Daniel was living with his girlfriend... 337 00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:25,845 when he was arrested, 338 00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:28,815 and she's moved into his sister's apartment to be with him. 339 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:30,383 You know, people are all different, 340 00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:32,785 and some other people, if they were in my position, 341 00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:34,821 they might have been totally, like, 342 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:36,989 questioning everything. 343 00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:39,692 But it just-- It's not me. 344 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:45,031 I think that he feels the dread every single day. 345 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,768 It definitely removes... 346 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,638 some of the life from his personality. 347 00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,844 [ Phone Rings ] 348 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,913 Hello? 349 00:23:00,947 --> 00:23:02,715 Hey, what's up? How are you? 350 00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:07,454 Wait, wait, wait. 351 00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,823 So wait, wait. I'm sorry. 352 00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:12,825 He's cooperating to the full extent? 353 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,635 [ Narrator ] Six of Daniel's codefendants... 354 00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:24,971 have appeared in court to accept plea deals. [ Barking ] 355 00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:28,207 In exchange for reduced sentences, 356 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,411 they've agreed to testify in the government's case against the remaining defendants. 357 00:23:34,481 --> 00:23:37,584 [ Daniel ] It hurts that people that I trusted and cared about, 358 00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,152 you know, turned their back on me. 359 00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:42,922 To be a cooperating witness, it's something other people can do. 360 00:23:42,955 --> 00:23:45,892 I'm just not gonna do it, because I just have to live with myself, 361 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:49,629 and I'm not gonna be that person and start spewing out crap... 362 00:23:49,662 --> 00:23:52,765 just to, like, get myself out of a situation that's not very pleasant. 363 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,534 So-- 364 00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,804 [ Sighs ] 365 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,712 [ Synan ] I'd want him to do whatever he needed to do to not go to prison. 366 00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:11,050 But I would never want him to compromise... 367 00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:12,985 his values or beliefs. 368 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:18,124 So if he has to choose, he'll be facing life in prison. 369 00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,664 I made the choice to be with him, 370 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:28,134 and after he was arrested I made the choice to stay with him. 371 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:30,269 I mean, that's what you do when you're-- 372 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,805 when you're in a relationship with someone. 373 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,807 Just because something really difficult comes up... 374 00:24:34,841 --> 00:24:37,777 doesn't mean you just run away, you know? 375 00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:39,912 So-- 376 00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:41,614 I think we should get married. [ Chuckles ] 377 00:24:54,594 --> 00:24:58,030 [ Chattering, Indistinct ] 378 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:02,835 Daniel, I've seen you with Jenny, 379 00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:05,004 and you're wonderful with her. 380 00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:06,839 You're good for each other, 381 00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:10,743 you have great chemistry, and-- [ Voice Cracking ] and I love you both. 382 00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:14,981 Congratulations. [ Applause ] 383 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:19,018 This kid faces 335 years plus life in prison, 384 00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,252 and he's getting married. 385 00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,758 I want to kinda grab the positive... 386 00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:27,994 and think that this is gonna work out in the end, 387 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:29,796 everything's gonna be okay, 388 00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,732 and, you know, there's nothing to stress about, 389 00:25:32,765 --> 00:25:35,101 but... there is. 390 00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,209 Hey. 391 00:25:43,242 --> 00:25:45,745 Oh, if it isn't my sister. How are you? 392 00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:48,047 How are you? Perfect timing. Ah, I'm friggin' hot. 393 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,882 - That's why I'm out here. - Let me see your ring. 394 00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:51,083 Oh. 395 00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:54,253 [ Laughs ] 396 00:25:54,286 --> 00:25:55,988 And by "nicer," she means more money. 397 00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:58,591 It's diamonds! 398 00:25:58,625 --> 00:26:01,761 His ring is made out of, like, some recycled type metal... 399 00:26:01,794 --> 00:26:04,764 that doesn't hurt anything or anybody, and mine's made of good old diamonds. 400 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:07,366 [ Laughing ] 401 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,101 Come on, let's go have a good time. 402 00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,739 ** [ Pop ] 403 00:26:21,648 --> 00:26:24,083 [ Barton ] It's easy to discount the environmental movement... 404 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:28,287 as a bunch of wackos and hippies and arsonists. 405 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,923 But it's not like that. 406 00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,761 There are businessmen and, you know, 407 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,830 moms and dads and scientists and loggers themselves. 408 00:26:37,864 --> 00:26:41,167 There are people from every walk of life that get involved in this. 409 00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:49,341 I've spent several years of my life... 410 00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:52,378 doing logging in the woods. 411 00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:55,948 I come with a little different perspective than a lot of the, 412 00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:59,118 you know, the environmental crowd or the, you know, 413 00:26:59,151 --> 00:27:01,053 the logging crowd. 414 00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:02,722 I've got a little of both in me. 415 00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:04,423 I'm okay with cutting down trees. 416 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,659 I just don't have an issue with it. 417 00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:08,895 But I'm not okay with cutting them all down. 418 00:27:10,897 --> 00:27:15,234 The industry tends to call environmentalists radical. 419 00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:18,137 [ Chuckles ] The reality is that 95%... 420 00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:21,307 of the standing native forests in the United States have been cut down. 421 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:27,113 It's not radical to try and save the last five percent. 422 00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:30,717 What's radical is logging 95%. 423 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:32,051 This is radical. 424 00:27:34,854 --> 00:27:38,090 This is a piece of a big old tree. 425 00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,260 This tree probably sprouted just about the time... 426 00:27:41,293 --> 00:27:44,063 Columbus sailed the ocean blue. 427 00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:49,235 It looks about 500 years old, somewhere in there. 428 00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:51,203 You know, the suckers, if they could talk, 429 00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:54,707 would probably say it'd been pretty boring up until about 75 years ago... 430 00:27:54,741 --> 00:27:57,009 when all hell broke loose out here on the ridge, 431 00:27:57,043 --> 00:27:59,445 and they started cutting them down. 432 00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:02,481 Most of them are gone now, so we won't be seeing any of these... 433 00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:05,952 for at least another 500 years, and that's if we leave them alone. 434 00:28:07,987 --> 00:28:09,722 These are amazing old trees. 435 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,730 [ Daniel ] I moved out west in October of '98. 436 00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:27,039 I got out to Northern California. 437 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,208 I had never seen trees like that before. 438 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,412 It had a really profound impact on me. 439 00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:37,316 I was already quite radicalized, 440 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:40,719 but I couldn't believe the fact that people accepted what was going on. 441 00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:48,294 I have memories of, like-- like, for the first time seeing log trucks, you know, 442 00:28:48,327 --> 00:28:49,829 and being like, "Whoa." 443 00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:55,401 You saw the mills. 444 00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,137 Or you go on into the forest and stumble upon a clear-cut. 445 00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:01,173 Like, it just blew me away. 446 00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:03,910 Just the arrogance of it. 447 00:29:05,511 --> 00:29:08,915 I was like, "Man, this is butchered." 448 00:29:08,948 --> 00:29:12,318 You know? It made me think, like, "Why are we being so gentle? 449 00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:15,988 Why are we so gentle in our activism when this is what's happening, you know?" 450 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,062 [ Narrator ] After the ranger station fires, 451 00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,265 Jake Ferguson and members of the fledgling E.L.F.... 452 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:29,035 set their sights on new targets. 453 00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:32,271 They came across an Associated Press article... 454 00:29:32,304 --> 00:29:35,407 about the rounding up of wild horses from government land. 455 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:38,845 The horses were being sent to slaughterhouses, 456 00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,913 including the Cavel West plant... 457 00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:44,050 in nearby Redmond, Oregon. 458 00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:47,386 There were so many horses being processed at the plant... 459 00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:49,455 that horse blood would sometimes overwhelm... 460 00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:51,423 the town's water treatment facility... 461 00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:53,025 and shut it down. 462 00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:55,227 And for 10 years, 463 00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:57,196 people from the area had tried, 464 00:29:57,229 --> 00:30:00,132 and failed, to stop the plant. 465 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:03,469 But on July 21, 1997, 466 00:30:03,502 --> 00:30:07,840 Jake Ferguson and three others slipped into the facility in the middle of the night... 467 00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:11,143 and burned it to the ground. 468 00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:13,612 The company was never able to rebuild, 469 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:17,116 and the arson became a model for the group. 470 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,351 In one night, they had accomplished... 471 00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:23,389 what years of letter writing and picketing had never been able to do. 472 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,996 They expanded and took on new targets. 473 00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:32,965 They burned timber company headquarters, 474 00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:35,467 a Bureau of Land Management office... 475 00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:39,271 and a $12 million ski lodge at Vail, Colorado... 476 00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:42,541 to protest the resort's expansion into national forest. 477 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,178 An E.L.F. press office was opened... 478 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:50,116 by activists who did not know the identities of the E.L.F. members. 479 00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:51,617 - That's that. - How do they contact you? 480 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:53,886 - Anonymously. - But-- I mean, what is that? 481 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,055 Like a package dropped on your doorstep? Well, it can be-- 482 00:30:56,088 --> 00:31:00,159 They publicized the fires and explained the group's actions. 483 00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:04,196 When a building burns down, they have to do a news story about it. 484 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:06,298 That's why the Earth Liberation Front burned down the building in the first place: 485 00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:08,367 to get exposure. 486 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,238 We were there to help explain why that building burned down, 487 00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:15,474 what it was doing in the first place that was angering people so much. 488 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,610 A lot of what the Earth Liberation Front did... 489 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,579 was considered economic sabotage. 490 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,483 These corporations exist to make money. 491 00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,152 All of a sudden they're losing money, 492 00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:28,620 so they have to reassess their activities. 493 00:31:28,654 --> 00:31:31,690 Another thing that happens is that the building... 494 00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,127 that was dumping toxic waste, for example, into the river one day... 495 00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:38,064 is unable dump that waste tomorrow. 496 00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:41,934 [ Narrator ] The press office encouraged people to start their own E.L.F. cells, 497 00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:45,037 but mandated that their fires not harm any life. 498 00:31:45,071 --> 00:31:47,206 Take initiative, form your own cell... 499 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:51,043 and do what needs to be done to protect all life on this planet. 500 00:31:51,077 --> 00:31:53,212 [ Narrator ] The idea spread, 501 00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:56,548 and new, anonymous cells popped up in other parts of the country. 502 00:31:56,582 --> 00:32:00,086 [ Female Newscaster ] The Earth Liberation Front is turning up the heat again, 503 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,689 igniting devastating blazes all across the country. 504 00:32:03,722 --> 00:32:06,225 [ Female Reporter ] A biology lab at the University of Minnesota. 505 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,528 [ Male Reporter ] Bloomington, Indiana. New York's Long Island. 506 00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:12,698 [ Female Reporter ] Now some say E.L.F. is in New England. 507 00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:18,104 [ Horns Honking ] [ Whooping, Cheering ] 508 00:32:18,137 --> 00:32:20,406 [ Lewis ] Back in Eugene, people were celebrating. 509 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:22,241 [ Honking Continues ] 510 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:25,477 We had no idea that it was people from our neighborhood... 511 00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:29,115 and they were friends of ours, but we were hearing about what was happening. 512 00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,617 - We were celebrating. - ** [ Drumming ] 513 00:32:35,521 --> 00:32:39,291 I don't think it was just the E.L.F. that started ratcheting things up. 514 00:32:39,325 --> 00:32:44,230 I think activists all over the Northwest were also kicking it up a notch. 515 00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:46,198 [ Shouting, Chanting ] They thought there was a possibility... 516 00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:49,568 of really making things change. 517 00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,604 Just have to work at it a little harder and get a little more radical. 518 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,242 [ Chanting ] 519 00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:58,544 [ Cheering ] 520 00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:05,684 He's not turning it off. He knows someone's locked under. 521 00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:08,087 There's an old woman. She's 80 years old! 522 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:16,662 [ Horn Honking ] [ Shouting ] 523 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,574 [ Lewis ] There was a sort of a progression of radicalism... 524 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:30,676 that happened in Eugene. 525 00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:35,547 And so the police were also amping up their presence... 526 00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:38,584 because we were amping up our presence. 527 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,122 Literally, we were having two protests a week. 528 00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:46,058 You know, major protests. 529 00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:49,628 And so you can imagine what law enforcement went like. 530 00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,665 I was doing undercover work around the Eugene area. 531 00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:57,236 We were looking for some of these individuals... 532 00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:59,638 that were causing mayhem around Eugene. 533 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:04,576 I think it was well known in the movement... 534 00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:09,315 that they could probe and push and get us to react... 535 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:13,185 in a way that oftentimes didn't look very good. 536 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,387 Get back! Get back! 537 00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:17,856 [ Crowd Shouting ] [ Air Horn Blows ] 538 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:20,526 Hey! Hey! 539 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,594 Hey! Hey! [ All Shouting ] 540 00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,563 Hey, get back! 541 00:34:24,596 --> 00:34:27,733 [ Shouting Continues ] Get back! Get back! 542 00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:31,103 But we were getting rocks and bottles... 543 00:34:31,137 --> 00:34:33,739 and that kind of thing-- fire-- thrown at us, you know. 544 00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:35,674 It just hadn't happened before. 545 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,310 Out of the street! [ Woman ] You fucker! 546 00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:41,847 To say that emotions don't play into that would be folly. 547 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,319 I mean, that's not true. It is personal to take a rock. 548 00:34:47,353 --> 00:34:50,522 [ All Shouting ] 549 00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:54,560 No! [ Shouting Continues ] 550 00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:58,297 [ Lewis ] And people's views got hardened and more radicalized... 551 00:34:58,330 --> 00:35:02,268 from what the police were doing to them within Eugene, 552 00:35:02,301 --> 00:35:05,537 or other campaigns that were going on around the Northwest. 553 00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:07,673 Are you gonna release? 554 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,777 [ Man ] Why are you doing this to us? 555 00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:13,779 Okay. Are you going to release? 556 00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:15,781 [ Woman Shouting ] Who's gonna release? 557 00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:20,752 [ Woman ] Oh, I love you! I love you. 558 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:23,422 [ Officer ] I only did one eye. I'm gonna do the other eye if you don't release. 559 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:25,657 Please don't hurt me! 560 00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,830 [ Woman #2 ] Leave her alone! 561 00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:35,401 Stop it! Stop it! Stop! [ Screaming ] 562 00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:37,503 When those people were getting attacked... 563 00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:40,472 and stepped on and pepper-sprayed in their face while they were locked down, 564 00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,642 I thought, "Protest and civil disobedience-- What's the point? 565 00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:46,478 Why bother?" You know? It's not getting us anywhere. 566 00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:50,816 We're getting victimized by their police, you know. 567 00:35:50,849 --> 00:35:54,486 I don't know. I think I, like a lot of people I knew at the time, 568 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,822 experienced a massive loss of faith... 569 00:35:56,855 --> 00:36:01,460 in that systemic change could happen through, you know, 570 00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:04,596 the system regulating itself or reforming itself. 571 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:06,932 ** [ News Theme ] Good evening. 572 00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:09,535 When the World Trade Summit was planned for Seattle, 573 00:36:09,568 --> 00:36:13,339 the administration obviously hoped it would be a triumph for Bill Clinton... 574 00:36:13,372 --> 00:36:15,674 in the closing months of his presidency. 575 00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:20,346 Instead, it's been a nightmare of protests and demonstrations in the streets. 576 00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:22,848 ** [ Drumming ] [ Narrator ] In 1999, 577 00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:25,917 tens of thousands of people converged on Seattle... 578 00:36:25,951 --> 00:36:30,756 to protest the W.T.O. and its effect on the environment and labor. 579 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:35,527 They blockaded the streets using nonviolent civil disobedience. 580 00:36:35,561 --> 00:36:40,232 Peaceful protest! Peaceful protest! 581 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:42,934 The police responded with force to clear the streets. 582 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,516 [ Man Shouting, Indistinct ] You're shooting poison! 583 00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:00,719 But while the authorities were focused on the demonstrators, 584 00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:04,856 another group appeared that included current and future members of the E.L.F. 585 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,792 I had met these people in Seattle, 586 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,395 and I was introduced to kind of a larger group of individuals. 587 00:37:09,428 --> 00:37:10,962 [ Man On Bullhorn ] Back to the sidewalk! 588 00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:13,465 [ Daniel ] Here we are in our black clothes. 589 00:37:13,499 --> 00:37:15,967 You know, downtown Seattle is just full of corporations... 590 00:37:16,001 --> 00:37:18,970 that are wrecking devastation and destruction on the planet, 591 00:37:19,004 --> 00:37:20,606 and people were just like, "Okay, let's do it." 592 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:25,577 ** [ Hard Rock ] 593 00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:28,447 These businesses, they're not gonna bow to people dancing in the street. 594 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,418 They're not gonna bow to people dressed as, you know, giant sea turtles or so on. 595 00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:34,720 They care about one thing. They care about capital. 596 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:37,323 Unless we put a dent in their pocket, what good-- How are you gonna do that? 597 00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:38,957 How are you gonna put a dent in their pocket? 598 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:40,792 Hopefully by causing property damage. 599 00:37:40,826 --> 00:37:43,295 * Yeah 600 00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:48,434 [ Cheering ] 601 00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,069 [ Daniel ] I'd never breathed tear gas, pepper spray... 602 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,772 or saw rubber bullets or concussion grenades until that point. 603 00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:56,575 It was, like, insane. I really felt like, "This is like a war zone." 604 00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:57,843 Like, wow. Holy crap. 605 00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:00,078 * Yeah 606 00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:02,948 [ All Shouting ] 607 00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:13,325 ** [ Ends ] 608 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,595 It felt good to take out my rage on these corporate windows... 609 00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,064 because they had caused so much destruction, in my mind. 610 00:38:19,097 --> 00:38:21,800 Stop it! Stop it! 611 00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,804 It created, obviously, a huge conversation and a dialogue and fight. 612 00:38:25,837 --> 00:38:29,408 This is not what the protest was about! 613 00:38:29,441 --> 00:38:32,644 [ Alarm Ringing ] People work hard for their property! 614 00:38:32,678 --> 00:38:35,581 Vandalism is vandalism. Destruction is destruction, 615 00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:37,516 whether it's of lives or property. 616 00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:39,084 It's not acceptable. 617 00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:41,420 [ Male Interviewer ] What do you think of the Boston Tea Party? 618 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,822 I thought it was wonderful! Wow. Thank you. 619 00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,657 Thank you. 620 00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:48,660 Fifty cents! Read all about it! 621 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:51,797 I think people have a very Pollyanna viewpoint of social change. 622 00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:53,599 [ Crowd Shouting ] 623 00:38:53,632 --> 00:38:56,935 No real social change has happened without pressure, 624 00:38:56,968 --> 00:38:58,637 without force, without-- 625 00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:03,074 some would say-- intimidating governments and corporations into changing their behavior. 626 00:39:03,108 --> 00:39:06,344 [ Shouting Continues ] 627 00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:09,748 [ Laughs ] 628 00:39:09,781 --> 00:39:12,684 Oh, it's so weird to talk about this stuff. Um-- 629 00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:16,522 I took part in the black bloc at W.T.O. 630 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,557 And the goal of the black bloc... 631 00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:20,959 was to just send a message, an anticapitalist message... 632 00:39:20,992 --> 00:39:24,863 that consumer America is destroying the world and destroying the planet. 633 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,868 And that was the first time we met a lot of the other people... 634 00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:32,471 that ended up being involved in the arsons. 635 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:40,879 [ Daniel ] After the W.T.O., I decided to move to Eugene... 636 00:39:40,912 --> 00:39:43,882 to keep in touch with some of these people that I met in Seattle. 637 00:39:45,451 --> 00:39:47,719 And I started becoming a really different person. 638 00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:50,622 [ Savoie ] Daniel was very involved in the issues... 639 00:39:50,656 --> 00:39:52,791 and ideas surrounding Eugene. 640 00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:55,494 He was very social. He seemed to know everybody, 641 00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:59,631 and everybody seemed to know him, including the cops. 642 00:39:59,665 --> 00:40:04,870 Daniel was kind of known as a leader around the area. 643 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,105 Um, you know, 644 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:10,609 he would show up at protests or gatherings, 645 00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:13,579 and you can always see that he was somebody that people looked up to. 646 00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:16,214 You know, you see who's serious and who's not... 647 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,517 based on how they're acting, what they're saying. 648 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:20,819 And so somewhere along the line it became obvious... 649 00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:22,954 that, like, I was someone that was interested in doing other stuff. 650 00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:26,758 I met Jake in the neighborhood. 651 00:40:26,792 --> 00:40:31,229 There was some allure about him just being quiet and kind of to himself. 652 00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:33,965 And being there really set some things in motion. 653 00:40:47,979 --> 00:40:51,550 The more radical environmental community have, in my opinion, 654 00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:54,486 a misconception about this industry and what we do. 655 00:40:59,925 --> 00:41:02,494 [ Swanson ] It's more than just a job. 656 00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:05,030 You know, I'm a third-generation lumberman. 657 00:41:05,063 --> 00:41:07,132 My son works in the industry. 658 00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:11,002 I want him to carry on, and when he has kids, I want them to carry on. 659 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:18,510 You can't be in the lumber industry without having trees to cut. 660 00:41:18,544 --> 00:41:22,147 So it's ridiculous for people to think we're gonna go out there and cut the last tree. 661 00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:27,085 [ Man ] I think the biggest misconception is that... 662 00:41:27,118 --> 00:41:30,188 we're out there just knocking the forest down, 663 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:33,792 we're just-- we're termites. 664 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:38,764 We just rampage through the forest and we leave it a mess and we move on. 665 00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:40,832 [ Swanson ] Does it have an impact? Certainly. 666 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,969 Nobody likes the looks of a fresh harvest. 667 00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:46,304 But we really do regrow these trees. 668 00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:48,840 You know, we plant six trees for every tree we harvest. 669 00:41:48,874 --> 00:41:51,677 That's the law. I mean, it's just flat-out the law. 670 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:55,547 And people don't break the law. You just can't get away with it in Oregon or anyplace else. 671 00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,983 Being an environmentalist is simply respecting the land... 672 00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:00,285 and the atmosphere around you. 673 00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:02,954 In that regard, I'm an environmentalist. 674 00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:10,896 [ Daniel ] Eugene has a commercial railroad that goes through town. 675 00:42:10,929 --> 00:42:12,864 [ Crossing Bell Dinging ] 676 00:42:12,898 --> 00:42:15,333 It wasn't uncommon to see just, like, plywood after plywood... 677 00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,269 and company names, you know, stamped onto it. 678 00:42:20,071 --> 00:42:22,874 That's definitely how I heard about Superior Lumber. 679 00:42:22,908 --> 00:42:27,178 Just by seeing their half-mile-long train full of forest go by. 680 00:42:32,718 --> 00:42:36,121 They were logging old growth, logging just massive trees, 681 00:42:36,154 --> 00:42:38,757 and out of areas that had previously been pretty inaccessible. 682 00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:43,695 Sometimes when you see things you love being destroyed, 683 00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:46,197 you just want to destroy those things. 684 00:42:47,866 --> 00:42:50,001 So I felt like the action was justified. 685 00:42:56,742 --> 00:43:00,779 We were quite surprised that we had been targeted. 686 00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:03,649 I believe I was invited to participate in Superior Lumber... 687 00:43:03,682 --> 00:43:08,053 by Meyerhoff to be a lookout, along with Suzanne. 688 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:12,791 But I met Jacob and Kevin right before the action-- Kevin Tubbs. 689 00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:16,261 They got together some weeks before, did a surveillance of it. 690 00:43:18,163 --> 00:43:20,298 It was in an isolated area. 691 00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:22,167 There was no viable security there. 692 00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:26,304 They figured out where... 693 00:43:26,337 --> 00:43:29,040 they should place the devices. 694 00:43:29,074 --> 00:43:31,142 They came back and prepared the devices. 695 00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:38,984 Put them in plastic Tupperware containers. 696 00:43:39,017 --> 00:43:43,021 Made sure that the containers were fingerprint-free, D.N.A. clean. 697 00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:45,090 They always wore gloves. 698 00:43:45,123 --> 00:43:47,392 I felt nervous from the get-go. For one, we were-- 699 00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:50,228 I was staying in this house where everything was stored. 700 00:43:50,261 --> 00:43:52,430 And it was someone else's house that didn't know about the action. 701 00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,400 On the night of the arson, 702 00:43:55,433 --> 00:43:58,103 they drove to the staging area. 703 00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:00,806 They put on their masks. 704 00:44:00,839 --> 00:44:04,109 They did radio checks. They had a police scanner. 705 00:44:04,142 --> 00:44:06,144 It's positively nerve-racking. 706 00:44:06,177 --> 00:44:08,980 I used to get really sick before actions and, like, throw up... 707 00:44:09,014 --> 00:44:12,383 and just get, like, nervous and, like, just in a zone, you know. 708 00:44:12,417 --> 00:44:14,152 I mean, I think that you have to get-- 709 00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:18,156 When you're doing something that intense, even as a lookout, you're just, like, freaked out, 710 00:44:18,189 --> 00:44:20,792 'cause you just don't know how anything's gonna go. 711 00:44:20,826 --> 00:44:22,861 [ Savoie ] I was in the back of the van, 712 00:44:22,894 --> 00:44:24,996 and I was actually kind of by myself in the back of the van, 713 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:27,098 so I was just kind of thinking to myself, 714 00:44:27,132 --> 00:44:30,335 and I think Kevin and Jake were in the front of the van. 715 00:44:30,368 --> 00:44:33,438 They were just listening to music, and so it was fairly relaxed. 716 00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,775 People weren't really talking a whole lot, but, you know, your adrenaline's going. 717 00:44:36,808 --> 00:44:39,911 Miss Savoie and Mr. McGowan were the lookouts, 718 00:44:39,945 --> 00:44:43,048 and they staged north and south of the building. 719 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:48,720 [ Savoie ] I was stationed at a pay phone. 720 00:44:48,754 --> 00:44:51,022 You know, everybody else was dressed in all black... 721 00:44:51,056 --> 00:44:55,293 because everyone wanted to blend into the night. 722 00:44:55,326 --> 00:44:59,397 However, I dressed in somewhat darker clothing, but I looked fairly normal. 723 00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,001 I just had a scarf that I could wrap around my face in case somebody passed by. 724 00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:05,737 And then I got dropped off kind of on the side of the road, 725 00:45:05,771 --> 00:45:08,206 and I just kinda crawled into this, like, space, 726 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,509 this, like, shoulder, you know, with a bunch of ivy. 727 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,213 Mr. Meyerhoff and Mr. Ferguson then placed... 728 00:45:15,246 --> 00:45:17,348 the five-gallon fuel containers... 729 00:45:17,382 --> 00:45:19,751 and activated the timing devices. 730 00:45:19,785 --> 00:45:22,287 It was done within, you know, 15 minutes, 731 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,156 and I got picked up, and away we went. 732 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:27,225 It was somewhere between 2:00 and 3:00 a.m... 733 00:45:27,258 --> 00:45:30,762 when I was home, sound asleep, and I got a phone call. 734 00:45:30,796 --> 00:45:32,230 And, of course, anytime you get a phone call... 735 00:45:32,263 --> 00:45:35,466 at 2:00 a.m. in the morning, it's not good news. 736 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,085 It turned the office into just a fiery oven. 737 00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,554 I mean, I don't know how hot it got in here, 738 00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:59,090 but we had keyboards that were-- 739 00:45:59,124 --> 00:46:02,027 I mean, you couldn't tell one key from the other. They were just melted together. 740 00:46:08,466 --> 00:46:12,537 [ Daniel ] I went up to Portland and wrote the communiqué and sent it in. 741 00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:16,274 Even then, it wasn't real. It was just still kind of this cartoonish thing. 742 00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:19,911 And it wasn't real until I really saw the newspapers-- 743 00:46:19,945 --> 00:46:22,447 seeing the man from the company-- I think Steve Swanson-- 744 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,853 just walking through these, like, charred remains, and I was just like, "Holy crap." 745 00:46:27,886 --> 00:46:30,989 That was a major blow to our mental psyche, 746 00:46:31,022 --> 00:46:33,892 at least in the short run. 747 00:46:33,925 --> 00:46:38,129 Just felt like, you know, a big hole in my heart. 748 00:46:38,163 --> 00:46:40,565 [ Lewis ] In Eugene, people were jazzed. 749 00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:43,334 When the big, bad bully gets, you know, hit in the stomach... 750 00:46:43,368 --> 00:46:45,003 and feels a little something... 751 00:46:45,036 --> 00:46:49,407 and maybe a little fear or whatever, that felt good. 752 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,312 It was exciting. The next day, I felt, you know, like, 753 00:46:54,345 --> 00:46:58,083 "Wow. I've actually done something where it stopped." 754 00:46:58,116 --> 00:47:00,618 I didn't have a problem with what I was doing. I thought it was effective. 755 00:47:00,651 --> 00:47:03,421 It was a million dollars or something like that. 756 00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:06,491 You know, 757 00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:09,627 it's like, when you're involved with it and you're in the thick of it, 758 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,529 it's hard to look at, like, all the consequences... 759 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:13,331 and, like, the real repercussions of that. 760 00:47:13,364 --> 00:47:17,468 Like, you know, did this action push them in a better direction? 761 00:47:17,502 --> 00:47:19,604 Did it scare them? 762 00:47:19,637 --> 00:47:23,641 Did it help the movement in any capacity on old-growth logging? 763 00:47:23,674 --> 00:47:25,643 There's lots of questions, but I don't think at the time... 764 00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:27,946 I was asking those questions too much. 765 00:47:34,986 --> 00:47:37,488 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. 766 00:47:37,522 --> 00:47:40,191 All right. Well, um, that's great. 767 00:47:40,225 --> 00:47:42,493 I guess I'll see you in a little bit. Okay. Bye. 768 00:47:44,229 --> 00:47:48,033 Yes! [ Whooshes, Imitates Fanfare ] 769 00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:49,267 Awesome! 770 00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,169 All right, that's great. I'm off the system. 771 00:47:51,202 --> 00:47:53,571 I am off house arrest technically right now. 772 00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:58,043 Hey. I'm off. 773 00:47:59,044 --> 00:48:00,411 Sweet! 774 00:48:00,445 --> 00:48:02,647 Seven months and two days. 775 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,649 [ Narrator ] With seven months of good behavior, 776 00:48:04,682 --> 00:48:08,186 Daniel's lawyers have convinced the government that he's not a flight risk. 777 00:48:08,219 --> 00:48:10,255 What do you think about that? 778 00:48:10,288 --> 00:48:11,923 I think I'm gonna stay in tonight. 779 00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:15,626 [ Laughing ] No, I'm joking. Are you kidding me? 780 00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,096 I don't care how tired I am. We're doing something. 781 00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:35,080 [ Daniel ] Of course I'm gonna get off house arrest on this day. 782 00:48:35,113 --> 00:48:37,182 Like, of all days, like, it'll be today, you know. 783 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:42,120 It's really sad for me to, like, 784 00:48:42,153 --> 00:48:44,522 have all these feelings about my home being attacked, 785 00:48:44,555 --> 00:48:48,193 my city being attacked. 786 00:48:48,226 --> 00:48:52,097 I mean, when I tell people that, like, I'm accused of being a terrorist, like, 787 00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,299 whether it's "eco" or "domestic" in front of it, 788 00:48:54,332 --> 00:48:56,968 or if it's just straight "terrorist," it's ludicrous to me. 789 00:48:57,002 --> 00:49:00,738 It's, like, surreal. And most people that know me are like, "What?" 790 00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:03,441 No one's accused in my case of flying planes, 791 00:49:03,474 --> 00:49:05,743 bombing things, trying to hurt people. 792 00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:08,646 None of these things. No one's accused of that. 793 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,682 It's property destruction. Like, that's what it is. Call it what it is, you know. 794 00:49:11,716 --> 00:49:14,619 It's gone! Yay! 795 00:49:14,652 --> 00:49:16,287 I look naked, right? You did it! 796 00:49:16,321 --> 00:49:18,123 How you doing? Okay. How you doing? 797 00:49:18,156 --> 00:49:20,058 Look at my freak-ass ankle. 798 00:49:20,091 --> 00:49:23,694 I actually ran a little bit 'cause I wanted to feel what it was like to run. 799 00:49:23,728 --> 00:49:25,463 I'm so tired. [ Laughing ] 800 00:49:25,496 --> 00:49:27,065 My feet hurt, my legs hurt. 801 00:49:27,098 --> 00:49:29,134 I just had a knee pain. It was horrible. 802 00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:41,379 As time went on, the cell members... 803 00:49:41,412 --> 00:49:43,514 had to become better and better and better at their craft. 804 00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:46,451 And their craft was destruction. 805 00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:51,989 And so they started what was called the "book club." 806 00:49:55,226 --> 00:50:00,665 They would train one another on how to build incendiary devices. 807 00:50:06,137 --> 00:50:09,040 And they would go out and test all these things. 808 00:50:09,074 --> 00:50:11,109 So they knew how long it would take-- 809 00:50:11,142 --> 00:50:13,811 You know, at this time of night and this kind of weather, 810 00:50:13,844 --> 00:50:16,181 how long will it take for this thing to ignite? 811 00:50:17,648 --> 00:50:20,017 What type of fuel would work the best? 812 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,056 They wouldn't buy all the ingredients from the same store. 813 00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:28,659 Even if the same store had the two or three items that they'd need, 814 00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:32,330 they would go to a completely different store, you know, 815 00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:36,534 30, 40 miles away so it wouldn't ever be tracked. 816 00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:42,407 It was called the book club because they also utilized certain codes. 817 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,842 At the meeting they were told, "This is the book we'll be using." 818 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:47,778 And then you'd have to use your book... 819 00:50:47,812 --> 00:50:50,281 that would associate what page number, 820 00:50:50,315 --> 00:50:53,251 what line number, what word number, 821 00:50:53,284 --> 00:50:56,254 and that's how you would decode the message to tell you where to go. 822 00:50:56,287 --> 00:50:58,389 And some of the members of the book club then... 823 00:50:58,423 --> 00:51:01,426 were well versed in computer sciences, 824 00:51:01,459 --> 00:51:05,696 and they brought in P.G.P. encryption and showed the other members how to do that. 825 00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:09,567 There was a lot of, like, having good covers for why you're leaving town. 826 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,537 Why you're not-- You know, where you're going. 827 00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:15,406 Having really good stories that made sense, that were consistent, 828 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,376 that you told everyone-- your job, your family, everything. 829 00:51:18,409 --> 00:51:22,513 Not dressing like activists per se. 830 00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:25,416 We didn't really look like what you'd think we would look like. 831 00:51:25,450 --> 00:51:27,585 I mean, if you saw people walking down the street, 832 00:51:27,618 --> 00:51:29,587 you would never think, "That's the E.L.F." 833 00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:32,323 It made a lot of sense of why there wasn't any evidence, 834 00:51:32,357 --> 00:51:34,859 why they weren't caught sooner. 835 00:51:34,892 --> 00:51:38,363 They were really good at what they did. 836 00:51:41,266 --> 00:51:43,468 [ Narrator ] In May of 2001, 837 00:51:43,501 --> 00:51:46,904 members of the E.L.F. launched an attack against two sites at once, 838 00:51:46,937 --> 00:51:49,340 a first for the organization. 839 00:51:49,374 --> 00:51:53,378 The first target was an office at the University of Washington, 840 00:51:53,411 --> 00:51:56,681 where a scientist was doing genetic research on trees... 841 00:51:56,714 --> 00:51:59,384 with a grant from the timber industry. 842 00:51:59,417 --> 00:52:03,221 The second target was the Jefferson Poplar Tree Farm, 843 00:52:03,254 --> 00:52:05,523 where the group believed that genetically engineered trees... 844 00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:07,725 were being developed for paper production. 845 00:52:08,826 --> 00:52:10,561 In the previous arson, 846 00:52:10,595 --> 00:52:12,430 Daniel had been a lookout. 847 00:52:12,463 --> 00:52:15,900 But this time he took a much more active role. 848 00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:17,668 They rented a motel room. 849 00:52:17,702 --> 00:52:20,405 They set up a tent inside the motel room. 850 00:52:20,438 --> 00:52:23,574 They put on painter suits, triple-thick gloves. 851 00:52:23,608 --> 00:52:25,443 They made the devices. 852 00:52:25,476 --> 00:52:27,878 One team went to University of Washington, 853 00:52:27,912 --> 00:52:31,649 and the other team traveled down to Clatskanie in Oregon, 854 00:52:31,682 --> 00:52:33,651 to Jefferson Poplar Farms. 855 00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:35,653 [ Daniel ] Clatskanie is a really small town. 856 00:52:35,686 --> 00:52:38,689 We were desperately trying to avoid a traffic stop, 857 00:52:38,723 --> 00:52:41,959 because it's just, like, we're pretty much screwed if we got stopped. 858 00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:44,495 There's way too many people in the car dressed in all black. 859 00:52:44,529 --> 00:52:48,333 The driver of the vehicle was Miss Savoie. 860 00:52:48,366 --> 00:52:50,635 Miss Zacher served as a lookout. 861 00:52:50,668 --> 00:52:52,537 And then the three men, 862 00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:56,807 which was Mr. Meyerhoff, Mr. McGowan and Mr. Block, 863 00:52:56,841 --> 00:53:01,379 took the fuel loads and the timers to the targets. 864 00:53:01,412 --> 00:53:04,749 We checked that no one's there. Like, climb around, look around. No one's in there. 865 00:53:04,782 --> 00:53:06,417 We'd been there previous. No one's there. 866 00:53:06,451 --> 00:53:08,719 The cleaning ladies were there, like, much earlier. 867 00:53:08,753 --> 00:53:12,690 We set up all the devices and all the buckets. 868 00:53:12,723 --> 00:53:15,993 They put little tubs full of fuel... 869 00:53:16,026 --> 00:53:19,397 underneath the vehicles, and they put soaked rags, 870 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,367 and they'd run the rags from vehicle to vehicle to vehicle. 871 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,403 And the towel just goes and goes and it goes and it goes. 872 00:53:25,436 --> 00:53:28,773 And it's tied together-- sheets-- and it's just an absolute mess. 873 00:53:28,806 --> 00:53:32,810 They were careful to take the trucks with the fuel tanks, 874 00:53:32,843 --> 00:53:35,613 fill the beds of the vehicles with fuel. 875 00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:39,450 [ Daniel ] I'm standing there. I'm drenched in gasoline. 876 00:53:39,484 --> 00:53:42,287 We're about to burn 13 huge S.U.V.'s, 877 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,655 and I was just, like, "What am I doing?" 878 00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:47,625 But we take spray paint. 879 00:53:47,658 --> 00:53:50,428 Myself and another person go out to the shed, 880 00:53:50,461 --> 00:53:53,431 and I write "E.L.F." on one side in pretty huge letters, 881 00:53:53,464 --> 00:53:55,866 and the other person writes "You cannot control what is wild." 882 00:54:01,772 --> 00:54:06,877 There's the "E," "L," and "F." 883 00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:11,716 Everything was basically fully engulfed when I got here. 884 00:54:11,749 --> 00:54:14,452 With all the vehicles and the fuel tanks... 885 00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:19,924 and so forth, there was lots of propellant in the area... 886 00:54:19,957 --> 00:54:22,560 to make things burn, and things went up fast and hot. 887 00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:24,329 [ Siren Wailing ] 888 00:54:24,362 --> 00:54:26,631 [ Female Operator ] 911. What is your emergency? 889 00:54:26,664 --> 00:54:29,767 [ Man ] Ma'am, we've got a big fire over here-- [ Continues, Indistinct ] 890 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,470 [ Operator ] Okay. 891 00:54:32,503 --> 00:54:35,406 Investigators in the Pacific Northwest... 892 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,677 strongly suspect that two nearly simultaneous fires... 893 00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:41,846 were acts of ecological terror. 894 00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:45,316 Monday morning, May 24, 895 00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:47,618 I got back to Eugene, and I was just, like, 896 00:54:47,652 --> 00:54:49,987 "Wow, I really need to think about what I just did." 897 00:54:51,456 --> 00:54:54,525 Just seeing, you know, absolute ruins... 898 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,795 and realizing that, like, all people were gonna focus on... 899 00:54:57,828 --> 00:54:59,897 was the fact that things were destroyed, 900 00:54:59,930 --> 00:55:01,566 and that the issues are being lost... 901 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,002 and all they care about is catching the people that did it. 902 00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:07,338 They were talking about Jefferson Poplar, 903 00:55:07,372 --> 00:55:09,474 and then they were talking about University of Washington. 904 00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:12,042 So finding out what eventually happened at University of Washington-- 905 00:55:12,076 --> 00:55:15,813 the massive destruction to a library. 906 00:55:15,846 --> 00:55:18,883 Not just the professor's office that was involved in this sort of research, 907 00:55:18,916 --> 00:55:20,918 but the Center for Urban Horticulture. 908 00:55:20,951 --> 00:55:24,889 I was like, "This is too much, too fast, too big. What am I doing?" 909 00:55:24,922 --> 00:55:26,591 [ Narrator ] Not only had the fire... 910 00:55:26,624 --> 00:55:29,927 at the University of Washington gotten out of control, 911 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,463 they also discovered that the Jefferson Poplar arson... 912 00:55:32,497 --> 00:55:35,633 was based on faulty information. 913 00:55:35,666 --> 00:55:38,102 It turned out that while the previous owners of the property... 914 00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:40,605 had been involved with genetic engineering, 915 00:55:40,638 --> 00:55:43,641 the new owners only had hybrid trees, 916 00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:47,578 developed using farming methods that have been around for hundreds of years. 917 00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:50,047 It's hard to really justify it in hindsight. 918 00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:54,785 Nobody would have targeted that facility had we known... 919 00:55:54,819 --> 00:55:58,523 that there was no genetic engineering going on there at the time. 920 00:55:58,556 --> 00:56:00,791 So it left me with a really bad taste in my mouth. 921 00:56:00,825 --> 00:56:03,761 Kind of like, "Wow. Look at this huge, intense action. 922 00:56:03,794 --> 00:56:06,063 And look what happened in Washington." 923 00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:07,732 And like, "Am I really ready for this?" 924 00:56:07,765 --> 00:56:10,468 Like, this is super serious and super big. 925 00:56:10,501 --> 00:56:12,637 We went to the meeting a few weeks afterwards, 926 00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:15,072 and I was like, "This is too much." 927 00:56:15,105 --> 00:56:18,075 [ Narrator ] Some members of the group were questioning the actions, 928 00:56:18,108 --> 00:56:21,178 but there were others who felt they hadn't gone far enough. 929 00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:26,617 Some of them decided that they wanted to target basically captains of industry. 930 00:56:26,651 --> 00:56:30,455 Target people now, not just property. 931 00:56:30,488 --> 00:56:32,657 The last circle meeting... 932 00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:35,826 basically cleaved between people that seemingly... 933 00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:38,496 wanted to talk about it-- not even, like, plan it-- 934 00:56:38,529 --> 00:56:40,164 But they were like, "We should talk about it." 935 00:56:40,197 --> 00:56:42,166 And the people that were repulsed by it. 936 00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,802 And really that, like, ideological divide is what ended it. 937 00:56:44,835 --> 00:56:47,204 That was-- That was it. 938 00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:50,074 What people were discussing, with my experiences of the arson-- 939 00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:54,745 it made my mind kind of like... spin. 940 00:56:54,779 --> 00:56:58,616 It's things like this that led me to think this is futile. 941 00:56:58,649 --> 00:57:00,985 There's gotta be better ways of addressing what's going on in the world... 942 00:57:01,018 --> 00:57:02,753 than just burning things down. 943 00:57:02,787 --> 00:57:05,890 [ Narrator ] As the E.L.F. cell was dissolving, 944 00:57:05,923 --> 00:57:10,127 the larger activist community in Eugene was splintering as well. 945 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,630 I think people were self-righteous. 946 00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:14,965 I think people thought they knew they had the answer. 947 00:57:14,999 --> 00:57:17,635 Weren't willing to listen to other points of view... 948 00:57:17,668 --> 00:57:20,605 because their view is more radical than that point of view. 949 00:57:20,638 --> 00:57:23,207 All those things came into play, I think, 950 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,043 to help narrow the amount of people... 951 00:57:26,076 --> 00:57:28,779 that were connected within the movement... 952 00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,015 to the point where it just went-- poof! 953 00:57:31,048 --> 00:57:32,917 Doesn't exist anymore. 954 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:35,953 That's one really sad thing about-- 955 00:57:35,986 --> 00:57:38,155 you know, about a lot of social movements, 956 00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:40,190 but, you know, I think ours especially, 957 00:57:40,224 --> 00:57:43,761 because we all are so critical... 958 00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,864 of the world and of the way people live in the world... 959 00:57:46,897 --> 00:57:49,534 and how they interact with the natural world, 960 00:57:49,567 --> 00:57:52,737 that we sometimes are extremely critical on each other. 961 00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:57,241 And that is definitely part of our downfall as-- as a movement. 962 00:57:57,274 --> 00:58:01,679 [ Daniel ] The scene was really imploding there at the time. 963 00:58:01,712 --> 00:58:06,584 And I, um-- I took a small trip to New York for my sister's 35th birthday. 964 00:58:06,617 --> 00:58:10,054 And, um, I hung out with my family, and I was like, "Wow, I really love my family." 965 00:58:10,087 --> 00:58:13,758 I forgot that I-- Like, I just grew so disconnected from them. 966 00:58:13,791 --> 00:58:16,694 And I met Jenny. 967 00:58:16,727 --> 00:58:19,930 And I was like, "All right, I think I'm gonna move back to New York." 968 00:58:19,964 --> 00:58:21,866 [ Narrator ] After moving home, 969 00:58:21,899 --> 00:58:24,802 Daniel began working at the Rainforest Foundation. 970 00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:28,873 He organized protests against the Republican Convention, 971 00:58:28,906 --> 00:58:32,242 and finally he took a job at a domestic violence organization, 972 00:58:32,276 --> 00:58:34,078 where he was working when he was arrested. 973 00:58:37,615 --> 00:58:40,117 [ Train Bells Ringing ] 974 00:58:44,922 --> 00:58:47,692 The E.L.F. fires in the Northwest had stopped, 975 00:58:47,725 --> 00:58:50,928 but the government continued to work on the case. 976 00:58:50,961 --> 00:58:54,298 We had a war room basically. It was a situation room. 977 00:58:54,331 --> 00:58:56,166 We worked it and worked it and worked it. 978 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,302 We had diagrams all over the walls, 979 00:58:58,335 --> 00:59:02,573 we had our flowcharts, and we had pictures of all our target suspects up there. 980 00:59:02,607 --> 00:59:06,210 What's different on TV that's not realistic... 981 00:59:06,243 --> 00:59:09,747 is that everything is solved in 50 minutes, you know? 982 00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:11,682 And that's not what happens here. 983 00:59:11,716 --> 00:59:14,619 [ Narrator ] Three years after Daniel moved back to New York, 984 00:59:14,652 --> 00:59:17,187 the government had still turned up no viable suspects. 985 00:59:17,221 --> 00:59:22,159 We came together and decided that we would take a cold-case approach... 986 00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:28,232 on one arson to see if we can turn any suspects in that particular arson. 987 00:59:28,265 --> 00:59:31,969 And the arson we chose was one that occurred in the city of Eugene, 988 00:59:32,002 --> 00:59:34,705 and it was the Joe Romania Truck Center arson, 989 00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:38,108 wherein which 35 S.U.V.'s were burned to the ground. 990 00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:48,686 [ Narrator ] The new investigation yielded a number of clues, 991 00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:51,622 which pointed the government toward one local activist. 992 00:59:51,656 --> 00:59:57,061 The night of Romania, Jake Ferguson was accused of stealing a truck, 993 00:59:57,094 --> 00:59:59,630 which was kind of interesting, you know-- 994 00:59:59,664 --> 01:00:02,332 the truck would be needed for something like what occurred. 995 01:00:02,366 --> 01:00:06,103 We also knew that Josephine Overaker... 996 01:00:06,136 --> 01:00:08,238 was arrested in the Olympia area... 997 01:00:08,272 --> 01:00:11,642 just prior to an arson that occurred up there. 998 01:00:11,676 --> 01:00:14,378 And we knew that her boyfriend was Jacob Ferguson. 999 01:00:14,411 --> 01:00:17,047 And that's when we really turned the heat up. 1000 01:00:17,081 --> 01:00:19,316 [ Narrator ] With Jake now on their radar, 1001 01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:21,351 they began following him everywhere, 1002 01:00:21,385 --> 01:00:23,120 asking people about him... 1003 01:00:23,153 --> 01:00:26,190 and bringing his friends in for questioning before grand juries. 1004 01:00:27,925 --> 01:00:32,096 You know, you'd start seeing cars following you, and... 1005 01:00:32,129 --> 01:00:34,765 cars with guys sitting outside... 1006 01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:38,235 where you're staying, you know, and-- 1007 01:00:38,268 --> 01:00:43,307 It was really scary, you know, to think that they were kind of on the right track, you know, 1008 01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:46,677 and that they're just kind of right there behind you. 1009 01:00:46,711 --> 01:00:51,381 And he's also a drug user, and so that adds to paranoia. 1010 01:00:51,415 --> 01:00:54,184 "They know," you know. "They're coming for me." 1011 01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:56,687 And, of course, in Jake's case, 1012 01:00:56,721 --> 01:00:58,889 some of it was true, where when he did turn around, 1013 01:00:58,923 --> 01:01:01,959 there were law enforcement following him. 1014 01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:04,695 So lightning was striking all around him. 1015 01:01:04,729 --> 01:01:09,867 And with that in mind, we gave him an out. 1016 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,269 We called him in to the United States Attorney's Office. 1017 01:01:12,302 --> 01:01:15,205 We were in a conference room there. 1018 01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:17,808 And then we explained to him quite simply... 1019 01:01:17,842 --> 01:01:20,310 that we knew what his situation was. 1020 01:01:20,344 --> 01:01:23,413 [ Narrator ] They told him they knew he was a heroin addict... 1021 01:01:23,447 --> 01:01:26,884 and that he'd lied to an investigator, which was a felony. 1022 01:01:26,917 --> 01:01:28,753 And then, they bluffed. 1023 01:01:29,854 --> 01:01:32,022 Despite a lack of hard evidence, 1024 01:01:32,056 --> 01:01:35,025 they led him to believe that they could tie him to the E.L.F. arsons. 1025 01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:38,362 We never told Jake Ferguson or his lawyer what we knew or didn't know. 1026 01:01:38,395 --> 01:01:40,164 That's-- You never do that. 1027 01:01:40,197 --> 01:01:43,067 Could we have really put him away for a long time? 1028 01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,835 At this-- that point, probably not. 1029 01:01:44,869 --> 01:01:48,105 [ Narrator ] They told him that the arsons carried a life sentence, 1030 01:01:48,138 --> 01:01:51,942 but if he became an informant, they'd let him walk away from his crimes. 1031 01:01:51,976 --> 01:01:56,213 I described to him, tried to paint an image of him... 1032 01:01:56,246 --> 01:01:59,416 walking through the forest on a road... 1033 01:01:59,449 --> 01:02:04,021 some sunny summer afternoon hand-in-hand with his son, 1034 01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:08,092 instead of looking at his son through bulletproof glass. 1035 01:02:08,125 --> 01:02:11,228 And he thought about it. 1036 01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:15,399 And at that particular point in time, then... 1037 01:02:15,432 --> 01:02:17,968 he and his lawyer excused themselves and left and said, 1038 01:02:18,002 --> 01:02:20,337 "Well, we'll get back to you in a day or so." 1039 01:02:20,370 --> 01:02:23,073 You know, he grew up with his dad in prison... 1040 01:02:23,107 --> 01:02:26,143 and he saw how bad that life was. 1041 01:02:26,176 --> 01:02:29,346 He didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison, 1042 01:02:29,379 --> 01:02:34,084 uh, and have his son, you know, never see his dad. 1043 01:02:34,118 --> 01:02:37,521 Twenty minutes later, I get a call from downstairs, 1044 01:02:37,554 --> 01:02:40,290 and Mr. Ferguson and his lawyer want to come up and talk to us. 1045 01:02:40,324 --> 01:02:43,360 And so they came up and they said, 1046 01:02:43,393 --> 01:02:47,865 "We would like to consider cooperation. What do we need to do?" 1047 01:02:47,898 --> 01:02:51,168 So, that was-- when we found out that he was willing to cooperate, 1048 01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:54,138 that was one of the best days I've ever had. 1049 01:02:54,171 --> 01:02:56,841 So he started listing off... 1050 01:02:56,874 --> 01:02:59,576 all the things that he had information about, 1051 01:02:59,609 --> 01:03:02,847 and that basically was every arson in the district of Oregon, 1052 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,382 arsons in Washington state, 1053 01:03:05,415 --> 01:03:09,053 arsons in Wyoming, arsons in Colorado, California. 1054 01:03:09,086 --> 01:03:13,824 We did not know the scope, um, of what he had knowledge of. 1055 01:03:13,858 --> 01:03:17,061 So that's when the investigation really kind of broke open. 1056 01:03:17,094 --> 01:03:23,533 The team immediately grew from 12 or 13, to 40, to 300 agents. 1057 01:03:23,567 --> 01:03:28,505 [ Narrator ] After debriefing Jake about the 14 fires he'd been involved in, 1058 01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:31,308 the government had a problem. 1059 01:03:31,341 --> 01:03:34,378 They knew that a heroin addict with a pentagram tattoo on his head... 1060 01:03:34,411 --> 01:03:37,081 would not make a persuasive witness in court. 1061 01:03:37,114 --> 01:03:40,050 And so they needed corroborating evidence. 1062 01:03:40,084 --> 01:03:43,353 We talked to him and his lawyer, and we said, 1063 01:03:43,387 --> 01:03:46,423 "Okay. This is what we want you to do. We want you to wear a wire." 1064 01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:49,626 [ Narrator ] They hid a recording device in the liner of his baseball cap. 1065 01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:54,398 And over the course of a year, they flew him all over the country... 1066 01:03:54,431 --> 01:03:57,935 where they arranged for him to accidentally bump into his old friends... 1067 01:03:57,968 --> 01:04:00,504 and get them to reminisce about the old days. 1068 01:04:00,537 --> 01:04:03,507 He walked into an animal rights conference I was at... 1069 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:07,244 in Washington Heights at Holyrood Church. 1070 01:04:07,277 --> 01:04:08,645 It was bizarre to see him. 1071 01:04:08,678 --> 01:04:11,415 I mean, he was bloated and kind of fat, 1072 01:04:11,448 --> 01:04:14,318 and just looked really different. 1073 01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:16,420 Uh, he was talkative, which was weird, 1074 01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,089 'cause I always remembered him as a really quiet guy, but he was talkative. 1075 01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:30,200 I went to go get a coffee with him. And we just talked a bunch. 1076 01:04:30,234 --> 01:04:31,535 Yeah, it was unfortunate. 1077 01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:58,295 I mean, thinking about it, I-- I can't help but be annoyed at myself... 1078 01:04:58,328 --> 01:05:00,998 for being like, "How did you not know something was really wrong here?" 1079 01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:29,493 It feels rather foolish, you know, to have done that, 1080 01:05:29,526 --> 01:05:32,596 but I'm trying to get over the shame... 1081 01:05:32,629 --> 01:05:36,100 associated with making dumb mistakes. 1082 01:05:36,133 --> 01:05:38,735 Jake was extremely conflicted. We'd have to pump him up. 1083 01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,038 It was like before a big fight... 1084 01:05:41,071 --> 01:05:45,575 where we sat there with him for probably half an hour to an hour... 1085 01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:49,013 just to get him kind of tuned up... 1086 01:05:49,046 --> 01:05:52,416 and ready to, uh, do it. 1087 01:05:52,449 --> 01:05:55,119 It wasn't something I felt good about, you know, 1088 01:05:57,487 --> 01:06:01,391 getting people to confess by wearing a wire, you know. 1089 01:06:01,425 --> 01:06:04,061 But what can you do when you've already taken the deal, 1090 01:06:04,094 --> 01:06:07,631 and then you've admitted to doing all these felonies? 1091 01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:11,768 They've got you, you know. If you do anything to disagree with the deal, 1092 01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:14,604 the deal's off, and you've just confessed... 1093 01:06:14,638 --> 01:06:18,142 to, like, you know, life in prison. 1094 01:06:18,175 --> 01:06:22,179 So once we had those recordings in place, 1095 01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:26,416 we decided on a particular takedown date. 1096 01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:30,220 [ Narrator ] The takedown presented an enormous logistical challenge. 1097 01:06:30,254 --> 01:06:33,057 The government believed that the suspects had to be arrested... 1098 01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:38,028 at exactly the same moment, or word would get out and they would go into hiding. 1099 01:06:38,062 --> 01:06:41,431 So teams of federal agents fanned out across the country. 1100 01:06:41,465 --> 01:06:43,533 [ Harvey ] I went to New York, 1101 01:06:43,567 --> 01:06:46,703 and we stayed out on Daniel McGowan's house until-- 1102 01:06:46,736 --> 01:06:48,572 God, I think it was 10:00 or 11:00-- 1103 01:06:48,605 --> 01:06:52,709 making sure that he was gonna be there first thing in the morning. 1104 01:06:52,742 --> 01:06:55,345 And then we got-- Yeah, it was not very good sleep. 1105 01:06:56,413 --> 01:06:58,148 [ Narrator ] The next morning, 1106 01:06:58,182 --> 01:07:02,719 Detective Harvey and three federal agents followed Daniel to work. 1107 01:07:02,752 --> 01:07:07,657 [ Daniel ] I look up, and around the corner comes these kind of big dudes. 1108 01:07:07,691 --> 01:07:12,096 I just kept feeling wave after wave of dread and fear, just kept, you know-- 1109 01:07:12,129 --> 01:07:15,532 And I was like-- I could barely talk. I completely lost my voice. 1110 01:07:15,565 --> 01:07:19,369 Like, I was just-- I could barely move, you know. It was really horrible. 1111 01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:24,174 And they were like, "You're being extradited to Oregon for, you know, E.L.F. charges. 1112 01:07:24,208 --> 01:07:26,276 You should consider pleading. Don't ruin your family." 1113 01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:27,844 Like all this stuff. 1114 01:07:27,877 --> 01:07:30,414 We would have them have an attorney. 1115 01:07:30,447 --> 01:07:33,783 We would present the evidence that we have against them and say, 1116 01:07:33,817 --> 01:07:40,190 "Here's your opportunity to become a cooperator, or remain a defendant. Your choice." 1117 01:07:40,224 --> 01:07:42,326 You know, when you-- when you sit down with them... 1118 01:07:42,359 --> 01:07:45,562 and you show them and let them listen to themselves on tape, 1119 01:07:45,595 --> 01:07:48,298 uh, you can see them really sink. 1120 01:07:48,332 --> 01:07:50,834 "Uh, okay, I'm done." 1121 01:07:50,867 --> 01:07:55,205 It was a very successful approach because, 1122 01:07:55,239 --> 01:07:57,674 you know, the dominoes began to fall. 1123 01:07:57,707 --> 01:08:03,713 I was in bed. My, uh, husband was up for work. 1124 01:08:03,747 --> 01:08:08,518 It was, uh, 5:00 in the morning. He gets up early for work. 1125 01:08:08,552 --> 01:08:13,257 And he came into the bedroom and told me that the F.B.I.... 1126 01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:16,126 and the Oregon State Police were there to talk to me. 1127 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,663 And right away I pretty much knew what they were there to talk to me about. 1128 01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:25,835 From there it was just, um, you know, 1129 01:08:25,869 --> 01:08:28,172 the hardest decision I ever made in my life-- 1130 01:08:28,205 --> 01:08:31,208 whether or not I should take a plea bargain and cooperate, 1131 01:08:31,241 --> 01:08:34,611 or risk going to prison for the rest of my life. 1132 01:08:34,644 --> 01:08:38,548 And I think that probably will be the hardest decision I've ever made in my life. 1133 01:08:38,582 --> 01:08:41,851 And, um, I chose to-- 1134 01:08:41,885 --> 01:08:45,222 to cooperate and take the plea bargain... 1135 01:08:45,255 --> 01:08:49,193 so that I could someday, once again, you know, be with my loved ones. 1136 01:08:52,496 --> 01:08:58,268 I would have been fully prepared to have gone away for five to 10 years, you know. 1137 01:08:58,302 --> 01:09:01,405 I was really looking at dying alone in prison... 1138 01:09:01,438 --> 01:09:03,873 and knowing that every single loved one would have moved on... 1139 01:09:03,907 --> 01:09:06,810 and done something else in their life. 1140 01:09:06,843 --> 01:09:10,680 It felt like a death sentence, you know, more than a life sentence. 1141 01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:17,187 People can judge me for the decisions I've made. 1142 01:09:17,221 --> 01:09:20,657 But until you've been in that position it's, you know-- 1143 01:09:20,690 --> 01:09:22,526 it's really hard to know what you would do. 1144 01:09:22,559 --> 01:09:27,331 I never in my life thought I would be cooperating with the F.B.I. 1145 01:09:27,364 --> 01:09:30,200 I always thought that I would be able to stay strong... 1146 01:09:30,234 --> 01:09:32,236 and stay true to my values and my beliefs. 1147 01:09:32,269 --> 01:09:36,840 And, you know, I guess sometimes you aren't as strong as you think. 1148 01:09:46,750 --> 01:09:49,786 So, um, I don't know if you're on, 1149 01:09:49,819 --> 01:09:53,357 but can we talk off camera for a sec? 1150 01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:57,227 [ Narrator ] Daniel's lawyers have negotiated a plea bargain. 1151 01:09:57,261 --> 01:10:00,964 While most of his codefendants have agreed to testify against each other, 1152 01:10:00,997 --> 01:10:04,934 Daniel and three others have held out for different terms. 1153 01:10:04,968 --> 01:10:07,937 They'll have to take responsibility for the arsons, 1154 01:10:07,971 --> 01:10:12,208 but will not be forced to give information about others, if they accept the deal. 1155 01:10:24,621 --> 01:10:26,923 [ Chattering ] 1156 01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:36,833 Wow. You are a big girl. Happy birthday. Right. 1157 01:10:36,866 --> 01:10:41,671 [ Lisa ] Everything has this overshadowing, "This is the last of holidays." 1158 01:10:41,705 --> 01:10:44,708 "This is the last birthday party." "This is the last everything." 1159 01:10:44,741 --> 01:10:47,511 It's funny. He's not really a big materialistic person, 1160 01:10:47,544 --> 01:10:49,646 but he bought her a lot of gifts this year. 1161 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,582 I said to him, "You didn't have to go through all this trouble." 1162 01:10:52,616 --> 01:10:56,019 And he said, "This might be the last time I can really ever give her gifts and be here." 1163 01:10:56,052 --> 01:10:58,822 So that was kind of sad. 1164 01:10:58,855 --> 01:11:02,526 I don't know. He's got some serious decisions to make. 1165 01:11:02,559 --> 01:11:05,729 And they suck. No matter what you choose, they suck. 1166 01:11:05,762 --> 01:11:07,897 [ Chattering ] 1167 01:11:08,498 --> 01:11:10,900 [ Shouts, Laughs ] 1168 01:11:10,934 --> 01:11:12,636 Wow! 1169 01:11:13,703 --> 01:11:16,005 I just feel bad that, uh, 1170 01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:18,675 this came up in this part of his life. 1171 01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:24,748 I'm hoping for him to make an agreement, 1172 01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:27,817 because going to trial, I think-- 1173 01:11:27,851 --> 01:11:30,987 I think with the charges against him, 1174 01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:33,757 that's two life sentences. 1175 01:11:35,392 --> 01:11:38,662 I don't believe in his philosophies, 1176 01:11:38,695 --> 01:11:42,298 but, uh, he's my son and I-- and I love him. 1177 01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,811 Come here, Lily. Mmm. 1178 01:12:02,386 --> 01:12:04,954 So, cool. I-- Thanks for everyone for coming. 1179 01:12:08,992 --> 01:12:12,662 Or you want to pace behind? He wants to pace behind us. 1180 01:12:12,696 --> 01:12:14,931 Um, I just wanted everyone to come so I can tell you guys... 1181 01:12:14,964 --> 01:12:18,435 I made my final decision on, uh, 1182 01:12:18,468 --> 01:12:21,571 the plea bargain the government offered a few weeks ago. 1183 01:12:21,605 --> 01:12:25,409 And so, um, I'm gonna be... 1184 01:12:25,442 --> 01:12:28,011 agreeing to this plea bargain in court on the 9th. 1185 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,782 So-- 1186 01:12:32,816 --> 01:12:36,786 The recommended sentence on the part of the government is eight years. 1187 01:12:36,820 --> 01:12:38,455 I won't be taken into custody at sentencing. 1188 01:12:38,488 --> 01:12:41,691 I'm gonna-- I qualify for a self-report. 1189 01:12:41,725 --> 01:12:44,828 But it's a major, major important thing to them... 1190 01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:47,831 to say that-- that our crime fit the federal crime of terrorism. 1191 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,869 [ Narrator ] Even though Daniel has now accepted a plea bargain, 1192 01:12:52,902 --> 01:12:55,038 a hurdle still remains. 1193 01:12:55,071 --> 01:12:57,774 A federal judge must determine whether the fires... 1194 01:12:57,807 --> 01:13:02,446 qualify for something called the terrorism enhancement. 1195 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,715 If the judge rules that Daniel's fires were terrorism, 1196 01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:08,885 Daniel could be sent to a new, ultra-restrictive prison. 1197 01:13:08,918 --> 01:13:12,656 It was set up after 9/11 to house terrorists. 1198 01:13:12,689 --> 01:13:16,493 In the media and in the courtroom, the question is debated. 1199 01:13:16,526 --> 01:13:19,496 Ecoterrorism: Terrorist acts by radical groups-- 1200 01:13:19,529 --> 01:13:21,831 - Ecoterrorist. - Ecoterrorism. 1201 01:13:21,865 --> 01:13:23,700 Environmental terrorists. 1202 01:13:23,733 --> 01:13:26,035 People need to question, like, 1203 01:13:26,069 --> 01:13:28,605 this buzz word and how it's being used, 1204 01:13:28,638 --> 01:13:30,940 and how it's, like, just become the new "Communist." 1205 01:13:30,974 --> 01:13:32,776 It's become the new, you know-- 1206 01:13:32,809 --> 01:13:34,644 It's like the bogeyman. It's a bogeyman word. 1207 01:13:34,678 --> 01:13:37,547 It's like whoever I really disagree with is a terrorist. 1208 01:13:37,581 --> 01:13:40,183 Some people have a problem with, you know, calling this terrorism, 1209 01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:45,188 but when you're basically making the threat where people go home at night... 1210 01:13:45,221 --> 01:13:47,223 wondering if they're gonna be a target, 1211 01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:49,158 um, that's what terrorism is. 1212 01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:53,963 After the fire, for-- for a long time, 1213 01:13:53,997 --> 01:13:55,832 you really looked over your shoulder. 1214 01:13:55,865 --> 01:13:59,469 We put a new alarm system in our home and things like that... 1215 01:13:59,503 --> 01:14:02,972 that, uh, before we hadn't thought about. 1216 01:14:03,006 --> 01:14:07,977 You know, being a New Yorker, with experiencing such serious terrorism firsthand... 1217 01:14:08,011 --> 01:14:11,648 is like, "How are you gonna call someone who sets fire to an empty building... 1218 01:14:13,016 --> 01:14:14,951 a terrorist?" 1219 01:14:14,984 --> 01:14:18,488 It's just inappropriate in every way, and it's an insult. 1220 01:14:23,527 --> 01:14:26,996 The word "terrorism" to me is about killing humans. 1221 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,198 It's about ending innocent life. 1222 01:14:30,867 --> 01:14:35,872 And that is the antitheses of what these people did. 1223 01:14:35,905 --> 01:14:40,176 Concern for life was a very big part of the plan... 1224 01:14:40,209 --> 01:14:42,879 and implementation of these actions, 1225 01:14:42,912 --> 01:14:45,682 and is why no one was ever harmed or injured in them. 1226 01:14:47,951 --> 01:14:53,189 1,200 incidents are being accredited to the E.L.F. and A.L.F. in this country, 1227 01:14:53,222 --> 01:14:55,224 and not a single injury or death. 1228 01:14:55,258 --> 01:14:57,694 Those statistics don't happen by accident. 1229 01:14:59,996 --> 01:15:04,834 Terrorist acts, under the definition of the law, can vary all over the board. 1230 01:15:04,868 --> 01:15:07,704 There is no requirement for purposes of terrorism... 1231 01:15:07,737 --> 01:15:10,907 that you physically endanger another person's life. 1232 01:15:10,940 --> 01:15:13,977 I mean, you don't have to be Bonnie and Clyde to be a bank robber, 1233 01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:17,280 and you don't have to be Al-Qaeda to be a terrorist. 1234 01:15:17,313 --> 01:15:19,783 I don't think these people are terrorists. 1235 01:15:19,816 --> 01:15:23,587 I think, uh, the people and the agencies... 1236 01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:27,090 and the industry that they're fighting are the true terrorists. 1237 01:15:28,257 --> 01:15:30,827 When you got big timber companies... 1238 01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:34,330 coming into the Northwest, clear-cutting old-growth forests, 1239 01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:37,801 big oil companies with their big oil spills... 1240 01:15:37,834 --> 01:15:41,270 that, uh, cost billions and billions and billions of dollars. 1241 01:15:41,304 --> 01:15:45,308 You don't see the F.B.I. raiding these executives' homes or anything like that. 1242 01:15:45,341 --> 01:15:48,745 They aren't being threatened with life in prison. 1243 01:15:48,778 --> 01:15:52,716 All they really do is just pay a fine and, uh, move on to the next quarter. 1244 01:15:52,749 --> 01:15:57,587 Th-The old adage that, you know, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is true. 1245 01:15:58,888 --> 01:16:01,257 You know, if you agree with their motives-- 1246 01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:05,028 Wow, they're a hero. They're not a terrorist at all. 1247 01:16:05,061 --> 01:16:07,864 If you disagree with their motives, then they're a terrorist. 1248 01:16:07,897 --> 01:16:09,833 That's tough. Okay. 1249 01:16:09,866 --> 01:16:12,802 That's why it's a whole lot cleaner to deal with crimes. 1250 01:16:12,836 --> 01:16:14,704 Crimes, noncrime. 1251 01:16:14,738 --> 01:16:17,240 Okay, I'm good with that. I can do that. [ Man ] Arson? 1252 01:16:17,273 --> 01:16:20,243 Arson is a crime. Good. I can do that. 1253 01:16:20,276 --> 01:16:24,113 You know, is it terrorism? We'll find out. 1254 01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:38,862 I ordered a book about doing time in federal prison written by a lawyer who did time. 1255 01:16:38,895 --> 01:16:41,297 I'm very, you know-- Getting very prepared for the whole idea. 1256 01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:46,035 But that doesn't necessarily make it any easier, you know? [ Lisa ] I know. 1257 01:16:50,106 --> 01:16:53,176 You know you're not alone even though you're in there by yourself. 1258 01:16:53,209 --> 01:16:54,711 I know. 1259 01:17:03,853 --> 01:17:06,155 Just, I don't know. It sucks. 1260 01:17:06,189 --> 01:17:08,825 Sometimes it's hard not to just look at the whole situation and go like, 1261 01:17:08,858 --> 01:17:12,161 "What the fuck? How did this all happen?" You know? 1262 01:17:15,832 --> 01:17:17,300 I don't know. 1263 01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:21,404 The situation with the environment is not getting better. It's getting worse. 1264 01:17:21,437 --> 01:17:23,673 And I'm not suggesting that the path of destruction... 1265 01:17:23,707 --> 01:17:25,208 and destroying everything is the right path. 1266 01:17:25,241 --> 01:17:26,976 But I didn't know what to do. 1267 01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:30,179 It's like screaming at the top of your lungs and no one hears you. 1268 01:17:30,213 --> 01:17:32,949 Like, what the hell are you supposed to say, you know? 1269 01:17:32,982 --> 01:17:34,317 What are you supposed to do? 1270 01:17:41,124 --> 01:17:42,859 Yes! 1271 01:17:42,892 --> 01:17:44,293 Going to the courthouse? 1272 01:17:47,163 --> 01:17:48,364 Yeah. 1273 01:18:10,186 --> 01:18:12,388 [ Cawing ] 1274 01:18:15,859 --> 01:18:17,794 [ Chattering ] 1275 01:18:24,934 --> 01:18:29,138 The judge has sentenced Mr. McGowan to 84 months in prison. 1276 01:18:29,172 --> 01:18:31,274 That's seven years. 1277 01:18:31,307 --> 01:18:34,010 The court also imposed a terrorism enhancement. 1278 01:18:34,043 --> 01:18:37,881 He has been branded as a terrorist in the media. 1279 01:18:37,914 --> 01:18:43,286 He will be listed as a successful government terror prosecution... 1280 01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:46,522 for the rest of his life, and we are very disappointed. 1281 01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,793 We believe it's legally wrong, and factually wrong. 1282 01:18:52,295 --> 01:18:54,263 [ Daniel ] Oh, look at the trailhead right there. 1283 01:19:19,155 --> 01:19:20,824 Oh, my God. It fell from there. 1284 01:19:27,563 --> 01:19:29,899 The older I get, 1285 01:19:29,933 --> 01:19:32,936 um, the more circumspect I become. 1286 01:19:32,969 --> 01:19:38,574 And, uh, I know now that a world is not black and white. 1287 01:19:38,607 --> 01:19:42,378 Um, it's not that simple. 1288 01:19:42,411 --> 01:19:46,950 When you f-- When I first read about these arsons... 1289 01:19:46,983 --> 01:19:51,921 and became, uh, involved in the investigation of the arsons, 1290 01:19:51,955 --> 01:19:56,292 you see all the damage and the harm that they've done. 1291 01:19:56,325 --> 01:20:00,864 And the threats they made-- They're not very likable people at all. 1292 01:20:00,897 --> 01:20:04,267 Once you get to know them as a human being, 1293 01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:09,405 you-- you start looking at their motivations 'cause you're curious about it. 1294 01:20:09,438 --> 01:20:12,541 Why did they do such a horrible thing? 1295 01:20:12,575 --> 01:20:15,945 And you look at their background, and you look at their childhood, 1296 01:20:15,979 --> 01:20:21,517 and you look at how they've evolved from the days... 1297 01:20:21,550 --> 01:20:24,420 when they committed all these crimes. 1298 01:20:24,453 --> 01:20:27,423 And then, instead of just being... 1299 01:20:27,456 --> 01:20:30,593 a cold mug shot on a piece of paper, 1300 01:20:30,626 --> 01:20:32,361 they become human beings. 1301 01:20:32,395 --> 01:20:34,563 And so you begin to understand them. 1302 01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:39,202 And that's not that you're saying you approve of their conduct or their behavior. 1303 01:20:39,235 --> 01:20:43,506 But you gain an understanding, an insight, as to how it came to pass... 1304 01:20:43,539 --> 01:20:45,574 that they started doing these things. 1305 01:20:48,377 --> 01:20:52,015 And then you're curious about how their lives will end up, 1306 01:20:52,048 --> 01:20:54,017 but only time will tell. 1307 01:20:55,084 --> 01:20:57,954 My stomach is flipping out! 1308 01:20:59,923 --> 01:21:01,557 Want me to open it? No, I got it. 1309 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:03,492 You sure? Okay. I gotta be independent. 1310 01:21:03,526 --> 01:21:06,395 You're not gonna be there to advise me on stuff. 1311 01:21:22,445 --> 01:21:25,248 I'm in your corner. I know. Thanks, Pop. 1312 01:21:27,183 --> 01:21:29,518 I'll see you. 1313 01:21:29,552 --> 01:21:32,521 Thanks for everything. [ Sniffles ] 1314 01:21:34,157 --> 01:21:35,558 I'll see you later. 1315 01:22:13,997 --> 01:22:16,065 I love you. [ Crying ] I love you too. 1316 01:22:56,739 --> 01:23:00,143 ** [ Alternative Intro ] 1317 01:23:10,386 --> 01:23:13,522 * Take us down and all apart 1318 01:23:13,556 --> 01:23:15,391 * Cherry tree 1319 01:23:17,126 --> 01:23:20,529 * Lay us out on the table 1320 01:23:29,438 --> 01:23:31,640 * You're sharp, all right 1321 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,716 * But no one is asking, so leave it alone * 1322 01:23:40,749 --> 01:23:43,252 * Leave it alone 1323 01:23:43,286 --> 01:23:44,387 * Can we 1324 01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:47,623 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1325 01:23:47,656 --> 01:23:51,227 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1326 01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:54,330 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1327 01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:56,265 * Loose lips sink ships 1328 01:23:57,733 --> 01:24:01,137 * Don't look at me I'm only breathing * 1329 01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:04,473 * Don't look at me I'm indiscreet * 1330 01:24:04,507 --> 01:24:08,111 * Don't look at me I'm only breathing * 1331 01:24:08,144 --> 01:24:10,679 * Don't look at me I'm indiscreet * 1332 01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:20,423 * Can we show 1333 01:24:20,456 --> 01:24:22,391 * A little discipline 1334 01:24:23,592 --> 01:24:25,794 * Can we show 1335 01:24:27,130 --> 01:24:29,165 * A little discipline 1336 01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:32,535 * Can we 1337 01:24:37,273 --> 01:24:38,607 * Can we 1338 01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:48,451 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1339 01:24:48,484 --> 01:24:50,553 * Loose lips sink ships 1340 01:24:50,586 --> 01:24:52,688 * Can we show 1341 01:24:54,223 --> 01:24:56,325 * A little discipline 1342 01:24:57,460 --> 01:24:58,627 * Can we 1343 01:25:05,401 --> 01:25:08,637 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1344 01:25:08,671 --> 01:25:12,175 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1345 01:25:12,208 --> 01:25:15,311 * Loose lips sink ships Loose lips sink ships * 1346 01:25:15,344 --> 01:25:17,380 * Loose lips sink ships * 1347 01:25:32,695 --> 01:25:34,763 ** [ Ends ] 111158

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