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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,943 --> 00:00:32,771 - It was early in the morning 2 00:00:32,815 --> 00:00:34,382 on the streets of Philadelphia. 3 00:00:34,425 --> 00:00:36,123 It was freezing cold. 4 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:39,213 And I just started to feel something welling inside. 5 00:00:39,256 --> 00:00:41,041 And they go, "Sly, are you ready?" 6 00:00:41,084 --> 00:00:43,217 I go, "I'm not. 7 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:44,087 "But Rocky is." 8 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:36,444 I was a complete unknown, even unknown to myself. 9 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:37,836 And I had this idea. 10 00:01:38,881 --> 00:01:41,492 A lot of people were feeling kind of the way I was, 11 00:01:41,536 --> 00:01:42,885 going nowhere fast. 12 00:01:44,191 --> 00:01:46,584 And I didn't know whether I had it or not. 13 00:01:49,761 --> 00:01:52,547 So I wrote this story about an underdog, 14 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:55,071 a person who wasn't very appreciated, 15 00:01:55,941 --> 00:01:59,380 and I was given a break by United Artist 16 00:01:59,423 --> 00:02:02,992 and now, you had to put up or shut up, 17 00:02:03,035 --> 00:02:05,777 so I couldn't believe my good fortune 18 00:02:05,821 --> 00:02:08,519 and every day we'd go to the studio 19 00:02:08,563 --> 00:02:10,304 and work on the script a littlebit. 20 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:14,090 Of course, I had a bit of an odd personality I guess. 21 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,833 Maybe I was born to play this part, I don't know, 22 00:02:17,876 --> 00:02:20,314 but it just seemed to fit into all the things 23 00:02:20,357 --> 00:02:22,446 that I sort of believed in. 24 00:02:25,232 --> 00:02:26,972 Anyway, we started working on 25 00:02:27,016 --> 00:02:29,671 experimental ideas about boxing. 26 00:02:29,714 --> 00:02:31,542 There had been many boxing filmslike, 27 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,937 maybe over 300 made in Hollywood 28 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:37,026 and they weren't very successfulso 29 00:02:37,069 --> 00:02:39,028 I couldn't believe my good luck here 30 00:02:39,071 --> 00:02:42,466 when they're doing a boxing film about this character. 31 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:46,383 But the point is, it wasn't a boxing film. 32 00:02:46,427 --> 00:02:50,605 It was a story about obsolescence, 33 00:02:50,648 --> 00:02:53,216 about not getting an opportunityin life, 34 00:02:53,260 --> 00:02:58,090 and more importantly, eventually, a serious love story. 35 00:02:58,134 --> 00:03:00,484 And he happens to be a boxer. 36 00:03:00,528 --> 00:03:02,443 So the relationship comes a little bit later on 37 00:03:02,486 --> 00:03:04,314 but it's the key to the whole movie. 38 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:12,496 John Avildsen in the background. 39 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:14,281 He always took these, he's driving me crazy 40 00:03:14,324 --> 00:03:15,978 with these eight millimeter films 41 00:03:16,021 --> 00:03:17,936 but here we are, so I'm glad he did it. 42 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:21,853 But at the time I thought, what a waste of film. 43 00:03:21,897 --> 00:03:24,639 Now, Mike Westmore, who was a great, great, great 44 00:03:24,682 --> 00:03:27,076 makeup artist, part of the Westmore family, 45 00:03:27,119 --> 00:03:29,252 he started doing all of the experiments. 46 00:03:29,296 --> 00:03:31,472 Here again, I'm just overdoing everything. 47 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:34,518 Makeup tests. 48 00:03:34,562 --> 00:03:38,174 And it was great, but I ended up with barely any eyebrows 49 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:41,569 left the rest of my life, so there is that. 50 00:03:41,612 --> 00:03:44,224 At one time I actually wanted Rocky to look 51 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:46,095 very, very punchy and I thought, 52 00:03:46,138 --> 00:03:49,011 why don't you glue my nose to the side of my face? 53 00:03:49,054 --> 00:03:52,232 So they got this kind of colostomy bad glue 54 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:54,930 and it was so bad, it looked like a cartoon, 55 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:57,715 like I had run into a wall like Gumby. 56 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:02,590 So anyway as you can see, Itook things to kind of extremes. 57 00:04:02,633 --> 00:04:05,723 I mean, it looks like a lost clam. 58 00:04:13,862 --> 00:04:15,690 We got lucky with Burgess Meredith 59 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:19,737 who was a world class actor with 50 years experience 60 00:04:19,781 --> 00:04:21,913 and he took it very serious. 61 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:25,265 He was fantastic and developed his character 62 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:28,442 that was based on a real character 63 00:04:28,485 --> 00:04:30,748 and he had all the mannerisms. 64 00:04:30,792 --> 00:04:31,967 'Cause I did real good last night, 65 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:33,273 and you should've seen me. 66 00:04:33,316 --> 00:04:34,361 - Big deal. 67 00:04:34,404 --> 00:04:35,927 - You should've seen me, too. 68 00:04:35,971 --> 00:04:37,451 - Hey, kid. 69 00:04:37,494 --> 00:04:39,322 You ever think about retiring? 70 00:04:39,366 --> 00:04:40,497 - No. 71 00:04:40,541 --> 00:04:42,151 - You think about it. 72 00:04:42,194 --> 00:04:43,239 - My friend Stan Shaw in the back. 73 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:44,719 Great guy. 74 00:04:51,073 --> 00:04:52,944 I didn't know anything. 75 00:04:52,988 --> 00:04:56,557 You know, I talked a good game like, yeah, I'm a good boxer. 76 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,386 I didn't know how to box anything, except maybe oranges. 77 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:02,127 But I was willing to try. 78 00:05:05,957 --> 00:05:10,614 The character was not supposed to be a gifted fighter. 79 00:05:10,658 --> 00:05:12,921 He was gifted in other ways. 80 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:15,967 He just could take anincredible amount of punishment, 81 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:18,361 and he was fighting for an ideal. 82 00:05:18,405 --> 00:05:21,146 He had no allusions that he was a winner, 83 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:23,323 he just wanted an opportunity. 84 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:32,070 Then we came across this amazing guy, Carl Weathers, 85 00:05:32,941 --> 00:05:35,639 the greatest film boxer of all time. 86 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:39,251 This man could move. 87 00:05:39,295 --> 00:05:42,864 Well, he was a world class athlete and a great actor, 88 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:44,692 but God, could he move. 89 00:05:48,304 --> 00:05:50,915 This is us really beginning to figure it out. 90 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:53,614 There was a situation happening. 91 00:05:53,657 --> 00:05:56,268 They had hired a choreographer 92 00:05:56,312 --> 00:06:00,229 and the choreographer was used to doing old-fashioned films 93 00:06:00,272 --> 00:06:03,275 like you hit me, I hit you, you hit me, I hit you. 94 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:07,889 And that's what was normally done in a closeup of two guys 95 00:06:07,932 --> 00:06:10,282 just sort of, as we say, shoe-shining. 96 00:06:10,326 --> 00:06:12,502 One-two, one-two, one-two, one-two. 97 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:15,418 And I thought you know, let's try to do something different. 98 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:17,333 Oh, look who just popped up. 99 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,856 My brother. 100 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,076 He was a great singer, is a great singer, 101 00:06:21,119 --> 00:06:24,209 and I thought well,since I can't affordanyone else, 102 00:06:24,253 --> 00:06:25,297 I'll use him. 103 00:06:30,912 --> 00:06:33,088 Now here's him in the ring, 104 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:35,699 really showing his love and appreciation for the job. 105 00:06:35,743 --> 00:06:39,007 Appreciate it, like start tackling me, knocking me down. 106 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:40,661 Of course I'm trying to make him feel good here 107 00:06:40,704 --> 00:06:42,358 by getting a concussion. 108 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:50,453 Back to Carl, he's improving a great deal. 109 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:52,412 And I said to the stunt coordinator, 110 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:53,891 I said, "Why doesn't Carl come out 111 00:06:53,935 --> 00:06:55,327 "and hit me like four jabs on the right? 112 00:06:55,371 --> 00:06:56,981 He goes, "That isn't the way it is." 113 00:06:57,025 --> 00:06:58,766 I said, "Well how about three jabs on the right?" 114 00:06:58,809 --> 00:07:00,724 He goes, "No, just follow my thing." 115 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:03,945 I said, "Well, I wanna see something different." 116 00:07:03,988 --> 00:07:05,163 He goes, "Okay. 117 00:07:05,207 --> 00:07:06,338 "I quit." 118 00:07:06,382 --> 00:07:08,645 So he left, and I was stuck, 119 00:07:08,689 --> 00:07:12,736 and Irwin looked at me like hey, who are you to... 120 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:14,869 Well this is the guy actually right before he left. 121 00:07:14,912 --> 00:07:17,654 His name was I think Stackler or something like that. 122 00:07:17,698 --> 00:07:19,482 Nice guy, but he had his 123 00:07:19,526 --> 00:07:21,397 old-fashioned way of doing something, 124 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:25,401 and I wanted it to look as close to real as possible, 125 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:27,359 and usually boxing films, 126 00:07:27,403 --> 00:07:31,581 the actors really were not in any kind of great shape 127 00:07:31,625 --> 00:07:33,627 and they didn't work any kind of choreography, 128 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:36,325 it was sort of done on the fly. 129 00:07:36,368 --> 00:07:37,892 You hit me, I hit you, 130 00:07:37,935 --> 00:07:39,546 and no one was ever in really excellent shape 131 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:42,070 so we started writing it up. 132 00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:45,116 The director said hey, why don't you write it out? 133 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,989 And I thought okay, you mean like a dance? 134 00:07:48,032 --> 00:07:49,425 Absolutely like a dance. 135 00:07:51,732 --> 00:07:53,821 Then we hired Jimmy Nickerson 136 00:07:53,864 --> 00:07:56,563 and he got in some semi-pros here 137 00:07:56,606 --> 00:07:59,566 who blocked out the actual real boxing 138 00:07:59,609 --> 00:08:01,263 and I would study it and go hmm, 139 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:03,570 that's believable, that's believable. 140 00:08:04,658 --> 00:08:06,181 And then I started to borrow things 141 00:08:06,224 --> 00:08:08,313 from the world's greatest fights 142 00:08:08,357 --> 00:08:12,143 and condense them into moments in our film. 143 00:08:12,187 --> 00:08:14,319 So everything you've ever seen in Rocky 144 00:08:14,363 --> 00:08:15,799 has actually happened before. 145 00:08:15,843 --> 00:08:17,801 In the back there's famous Gene LeBell, 146 00:08:17,845 --> 00:08:20,978 world famous stuntman and Judo champion. 147 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:26,506 This is all practice footage, 148 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,203 and he's working on Jimmy Nickerson 149 00:08:28,246 --> 00:08:31,032 who insists on him actually hitting him a lot, 150 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:33,556 which I don't know what was going through Jimmy's head. 151 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,253 He actually did get knocked out. 152 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:39,301 There's Gene LeBell practicing. 153 00:08:39,344 --> 00:08:41,390 He's overacting as his 154 00:08:41,433 --> 00:08:43,261 as a referee. 155 00:08:44,262 --> 00:08:46,003 I never saw a referee get into a full squat, 156 00:08:46,047 --> 00:08:46,874 but why not? 157 00:08:51,182 --> 00:08:54,011 This is footage that was never seen in the movie. 158 00:08:54,055 --> 00:08:55,665 It was supposed to be in the movie. 159 00:08:55,709 --> 00:08:59,800 Rocky is watching Apollo knock all these people out. 160 00:08:59,843 --> 00:09:02,106 Mickey is going, "You don't have a chance," basically. 161 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:04,848 This is a real fighter named Sonny Shields, 162 00:09:04,892 --> 00:09:08,373 father of the world class fighter named Randy Shields. 163 00:09:08,417 --> 00:09:10,462 He thought Carl was just an actor, 164 00:09:10,506 --> 00:09:14,336 I said he's a powerful man, and he blasted him, 165 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:17,339 and eventually knocked him down again, for real. 166 00:09:21,343 --> 00:09:24,346 We never used this footage, which is unfortunate. 167 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:26,043 It was a work in progress. 168 00:09:26,087 --> 00:09:30,308 So in between setups, I would constantly be re-writing 169 00:09:30,352 --> 00:09:32,920 and re-writing 170 00:09:32,963 --> 00:09:35,792 and trying to make this thing work 171 00:09:35,836 --> 00:09:38,621 for the budget that we had, which was nothing. 172 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:41,015 And our locations were pretty, 173 00:09:41,058 --> 00:09:42,756 you know, pretty sparse. 174 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:46,455 But you know, I think that worked out for the best. 175 00:09:51,286 --> 00:09:53,375 I hadn't figured out Rocky's color combination, 176 00:09:53,418 --> 00:09:58,336 so this is just us practicing basically choreography 177 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,469 and makeup tests. 178 00:10:00,512 --> 00:10:02,819 And you can see like the ropes hanging on the ground. 179 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:04,342 This was again, just for us, 180 00:10:04,386 --> 00:10:06,823 too much smoke or too much makeup, 181 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:07,955 we were trying to figure out. 182 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:09,652 Like this. 183 00:10:09,696 --> 00:10:11,349 Hey, anybody want a hamburger? 184 00:10:11,393 --> 00:10:12,263 How you doin'? 185 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:15,658 Like, little bit of overacting 186 00:10:15,702 --> 00:10:18,008 putting the cart in front of the horse here. 187 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:25,189 I think Carl again, this was mostly a makeup test. 188 00:10:25,233 --> 00:10:26,582 This place was freezing by the way, 189 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:28,802 it was in the dead of winter, so. 190 00:10:30,891 --> 00:10:35,069 It was not conducive to moving around a lot. 191 00:10:35,112 --> 00:10:37,375 But again, we did what we could 192 00:10:37,419 --> 00:10:39,856 because we were borrowing the Olympic Auditorium. 193 00:10:43,294 --> 00:10:45,819 And we're seeing how close we could get with the punches. 194 00:10:45,862 --> 00:10:48,038 Those are actual eight ounce gloves 195 00:10:48,082 --> 00:10:50,084 that are not doctored up, 196 00:10:50,127 --> 00:10:52,913 and when you get hit with them, it's... 197 00:10:54,218 --> 00:10:58,222 My eye is closed, your depth perception 198 00:10:58,266 --> 00:10:59,833 is way off. 199 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:03,358 So this is what these rehearsals helped with, 200 00:11:03,401 --> 00:11:05,665 figuring out what works and what doesn't work. 201 00:11:10,278 --> 00:11:11,671 Oh there's my father. 202 00:11:11,714 --> 00:11:14,891 We're sitting around before the film 203 00:11:14,935 --> 00:11:19,113 kind of figuring out thelogistics with the set designer 204 00:11:19,156 --> 00:11:21,942 and it was great to be part of all of this. 205 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:24,466 I didn't know what I was doing, but it sounded good 206 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:25,989 and it looked good. 207 00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:28,992 And we were pretty passionate about it. 208 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:30,515 But really there's something good 209 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,126 about not knowing everything, 210 00:11:32,169 --> 00:11:35,303 you're just throwing yourself headlong into it. 211 00:11:35,346 --> 00:11:38,262 Made my father the bell ringer, that was interesting. 212 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:40,395 He'd always ring the bell about 20 seconds late 213 00:11:40,438 --> 00:11:42,223 and I would take a beating. 214 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:44,921 And I kept going, is this kind of Freudian by any chance? 215 00:11:46,575 --> 00:11:49,709 That's me wearing my incredibly expensive York shirt. 216 00:11:51,058 --> 00:11:53,451 Kind of hung up on the tank tops at the time, 217 00:11:53,495 --> 00:11:54,322 I don't know why. 218 00:12:02,504 --> 00:12:04,898 Storyboards are something I'd never seen before. 219 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:06,682 It was very interesting. 220 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:09,424 It was laid out what we were supposed to do. 221 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:12,035 This whole kind of ritual of twomen 222 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:13,863 getting ready to face one another, 223 00:12:13,907 --> 00:12:16,344 Rocky being incredibly inferior 224 00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:20,478 and Carl, or Apollo Creed, just taking it as another day 225 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:25,048 in the life of a champion, no big deal. 226 00:12:25,092 --> 00:12:27,137 But all these maneuvers here like the Vick's 227 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:29,183 and the greasing up, this is pretty much 228 00:12:29,226 --> 00:12:32,316 what we were taught by authentictrainers. 229 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:36,668 Rocky knows he's basically going to get slaughtered 230 00:12:36,712 --> 00:12:39,889 so he's just praying he doesn't get hurt too much. 231 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:42,326 And Carl, this is the first time we actually see him 232 00:12:42,370 --> 00:12:45,025 get serious in the film as Apollo Creed. 233 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,030 You won't believe this camera. 234 00:12:50,073 --> 00:12:51,814 This is so gigantic. 235 00:12:53,598 --> 00:12:56,863 Everything we had was, I don't know, 236 00:12:56,906 --> 00:12:58,821 just scraping things together. 237 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:02,738 This gigantic camera, that we had to lash to the car. 238 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:04,392 They don't even exist anymore. 239 00:13:11,268 --> 00:13:13,140 This fella here, his name was Jimmy Gambina, 240 00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:15,751 he was also a trainer, his father's a trainer, 241 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,318 and I thought I'd put him in a movie 242 00:13:17,361 --> 00:13:19,537 'cause he was really some kind of character. 243 00:13:19,581 --> 00:13:21,017 And it worked out. 244 00:13:21,061 --> 00:13:22,192 - Don't you think you oughta take a rest? 245 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:23,498 - No, my back is hurt. 246 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:24,368 - Your back? 247 00:13:24,412 --> 00:13:25,108 - My back is hurt. 248 00:13:25,152 --> 00:13:26,327 You deaf? 249 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:27,284 - No, I'm short. 250 00:13:30,897 --> 00:13:32,594 - As I was getting prepared again, 251 00:13:32,637 --> 00:13:35,205 me being very mature between takes, 252 00:13:36,206 --> 00:13:37,729 this is how I prepare for a movie, 253 00:13:37,773 --> 00:13:39,993 by chasing Adrian with a meat cleaver. 254 00:13:40,036 --> 00:13:43,866 You think it's a little odd perhaps. 255 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:45,868 We tried to keep it loose. 256 00:13:45,912 --> 00:13:49,176 It was a lot of fun in a way, and I tend to 257 00:13:49,219 --> 00:13:54,659 not want to walk around all moody, and I just try to 258 00:13:54,703 --> 00:13:56,748 keep it relaxed 'cause if you'rerelaxed, 259 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:58,663 the rest of the crew is relaxed. 260 00:13:58,707 --> 00:14:00,491 And then you turn it on when youhave to, 261 00:14:00,535 --> 00:14:03,973 so you can see me with Joe Spinell who played Mr. Gazzo 262 00:14:04,017 --> 00:14:06,671 and John Avildsen, makeup man Mike Westmore, 263 00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:08,673 and we're just having a good time. 264 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:13,069 That hat was a real bone of contention. 265 00:14:13,113 --> 00:14:15,115 Nobody wanted me to wear the hat. 266 00:14:15,158 --> 00:14:17,073 They wanted me to just be, you know, bareheaded. 267 00:14:17,117 --> 00:14:18,770 I go, 268 00:14:18,814 --> 00:14:20,468 So there was a store there and I bought the hat, 269 00:14:20,511 --> 00:14:22,035 there's the director's children, 270 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:24,080 bought that hat for like $3 271 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,126 and I wanna wear the hat. 272 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:27,736 And the producer goes, "You can't wear this hat." 273 00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:28,606 and I go, "Why?" 274 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:30,173 He says, "Because, 275 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,132 "Gene Hackman wore it in French Connection." 276 00:14:32,175 --> 00:14:34,003 I says, "So, that's the end of hats? 277 00:14:34,047 --> 00:14:35,700 "So, hats are banned?" 278 00:14:35,744 --> 00:14:38,051 I said, "It kind of tops off the character." 279 00:14:38,094 --> 00:14:41,663 And I just went ahead and used the hat. 280 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:43,230 I'd never seen a hat like it, 281 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:45,406 it was like this cheap, felt, cardboard hat, 282 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:48,017 but it just worked perfectly, 283 00:14:48,061 --> 00:14:50,977 and I think made a great impression on the character. 284 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:54,719 I think it just set the whole thing like a suit of armor. 285 00:14:54,763 --> 00:14:58,680 It was a costume that he was sort of hiding behind. 286 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:00,595 And then when you see him put on the glasses 287 00:15:00,638 --> 00:15:03,511 like they should realize, he's not this real tough specimen, 288 00:15:03,554 --> 00:15:06,427 he's kind of nerdy in a way. 289 00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:14,783 Oh yeah, this is us in between takes, just hanging out. 290 00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:18,874 This is a scene that was amazing. 291 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,745 I wrote it for 300 extras. 292 00:15:21,703 --> 00:15:24,575 And Adrian was supposed to be taken out on the ice 293 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:27,274 by this incredible ice skater and he's showing off 294 00:15:27,317 --> 00:15:28,971 and I'm sort of humiliated 295 00:15:29,015 --> 00:15:33,367 and then I get into sort of a beef with the fella. 296 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:35,064 I show up on the set, they said, 297 00:15:35,108 --> 00:15:37,327 "Well, we've had to cut the extras back a little bit." 298 00:15:37,371 --> 00:15:38,241 I go, "To what?" 299 00:15:38,285 --> 00:15:39,634 He goes, "To none." 300 00:15:39,677 --> 00:15:40,765 You're kidding me! 301 00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:42,942 How about a heads up? 302 00:15:42,985 --> 00:15:46,206 So I went back and I started re-writing immediately 303 00:15:46,249 --> 00:15:50,514 and, well, the proof is in the pudding. 304 00:15:50,558 --> 00:15:53,039 It became just the two of us on the ice 305 00:15:53,082 --> 00:15:57,739 and since I can't ice skate, Rocky runs alongside of her. 306 00:15:57,782 --> 00:15:59,828 That's George Memmoli who was a great character, 307 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:01,482 actor and a friend, 308 00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:04,398 and it turned out to be a thousand times better 309 00:16:04,441 --> 00:16:07,096 if there had been a big, big crowd here. 310 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:11,361 So, again, taking the negative and making it a positive. 311 00:16:11,405 --> 00:16:13,407 Got very lucky on that day. 312 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:17,150 But that scene sort of set the tone for Rocky's first date. 313 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:20,370 He wasn't used to you know, being very... 314 00:16:20,414 --> 00:16:22,372 Well we'll just say sophisticated, 315 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:26,507 but I think that was part of his charm was his honesty. 316 00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:28,161 No it's okay, it's okay. 317 00:16:28,204 --> 00:16:29,901 Hey listen, are you closed to the general public, 318 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:31,860 or are you just closed toeverybody, you know what I mean? 319 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:36,604 You can see here, we really struggling. 320 00:16:36,647 --> 00:16:41,000 She was not exactly you know, Ice Capades either. 321 00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,479 We're just struggling out there which I thought 322 00:16:42,523 --> 00:16:45,265 kind of reflected on who they were, too. 323 00:16:45,308 --> 00:16:50,313 It's like, neither one of them is very graceful in life. 324 00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:54,230 But together, they're a perfect fit, they really really are. 325 00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:57,494 I almost broke my neck on this about 10 times. 326 00:16:57,538 --> 00:16:59,148 This turned out to be very, verygood. 327 00:16:59,192 --> 00:17:01,803 You can see where John's rehearsals 328 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:04,893 were absolutely duplicated in reality, 329 00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:06,199 so it was a perfect thing. 330 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,029 I tell you, things get pretty rough in the rink. 331 00:17:13,423 --> 00:17:17,253 Again, this is the makeup with Mike Westmore 332 00:17:17,297 --> 00:17:18,907 and we'd be running lines here. 333 00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:21,518 So we've hit the ground running. 334 00:17:21,562 --> 00:17:23,912 I like to learn a lot of dialogue 335 00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,567 a long time before the production 336 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:30,005 so you can let it go and ad lib 337 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,876 and then come back to the script. 338 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,793 And Burgess, who's a classicallytrained actor and I wasn't, 339 00:17:35,837 --> 00:17:38,013 was totally on board with that. 340 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,363 And he was just fantastic. 341 00:17:40,407 --> 00:17:43,192 He's really a consummate performer. 342 00:17:43,236 --> 00:17:44,802 I didn't realize it at the time 343 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:46,326 'cause I had never worked with anyone that good, 344 00:17:46,369 --> 00:17:49,851 but now, as I reflect on it, one of the greatest. 345 00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:55,335 This was an actual apartment, believe it or not, 346 00:17:55,378 --> 00:17:59,165 and I thought we should add some things that are a bit odd, 347 00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:02,559 like a mattress stuck to the wall full of bayonets. 348 00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:05,345 Don't explain it, just, that's the way he lives. 349 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:07,869 And a bowl full of turtles and so on. 350 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:23,754 We couldn't afford a hose to wet down the street, 351 00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:25,843 so we'd do it by buckets. 352 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:31,284 Rocky solidifies his relationship with Mickey 353 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:34,678 after a tempestuous brawl a few moments earlier 354 00:18:34,722 --> 00:18:37,942 where he just unloaded on Mickey about being ignored. 355 00:18:37,986 --> 00:18:39,379 But that's what made the character, 356 00:18:39,422 --> 00:18:41,032 he's just always forgiving. 357 00:18:42,469 --> 00:18:44,949 This is my friend Gene Kirkwood,he was very, very important 358 00:18:44,993 --> 00:18:46,864 in having the film actually made. 359 00:18:46,908 --> 00:18:49,128 And Burt Young, who was fantastic. 360 00:18:54,916 --> 00:18:59,094 We start in Philadelphia and we end up here, this is L.A., 361 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:02,402 running along the side of the meat packing place. 362 00:19:02,445 --> 00:19:07,233 I don't know exactly why I wrote in a slider house, 363 00:19:07,276 --> 00:19:10,671 but it was just an idea. 364 00:19:10,714 --> 00:19:14,544 Like boxers are considered meat,you know, 365 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:17,330 we don't think of them as you know, 366 00:19:17,373 --> 00:19:19,810 regular human beings, but they are. 367 00:19:19,854 --> 00:19:21,203 They have a lot of heart and soul, 368 00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:23,945 they're not just flesh to be hitupon. 369 00:19:23,988 --> 00:19:27,296 And so that was somewhat a symbolic move, 370 00:19:27,340 --> 00:19:29,777 a little heavy-handed but I think it worked. 371 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:38,046 And here we are outside. 372 00:19:38,089 --> 00:19:41,919 Yeah, with my dog Butkus which was actually my dog 373 00:19:41,963 --> 00:19:45,271 and I thought Rocky and the dog looked very much alike, 374 00:19:45,314 --> 00:19:47,229 so I wanted him in the movie. 375 00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:49,710 And I thought it again added a little bit of character 376 00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:52,582 to who Rocky was, and it was a gift from Adrian. 377 00:19:55,498 --> 00:19:58,109 This is a scene that was made up on the spot. 378 00:19:58,153 --> 00:19:59,763 What's that, Butkus, huh? 379 00:19:59,807 --> 00:20:00,895 Whose truck is this? 380 00:20:00,938 --> 00:20:02,244 Come on. 381 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:03,985 I was supposed to just be in there. 382 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,205 I thought, you know, it'd be great if he just shows up 383 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:08,816 and there's Burt saying, "Hey, hope you don't mind, 384 00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:11,732 "I called your television network, 385 00:20:11,775 --> 00:20:14,735 "and I'm basically here to embarrass you." 386 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:16,737 And of course, Rocky takes it instride 387 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,740 and goes along with it 'cause he's that kind of a guy. 388 00:20:25,659 --> 00:20:26,747 This place was so magical. 389 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:28,662 I mean just these streets, 390 00:20:28,705 --> 00:20:31,230 I go back there every now and then. 391 00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:32,840 It's amazing. 392 00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,364 They're so small, so narrow, so claustrophobic, 393 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:38,541 the terrain is just so graphically interesting. 394 00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:39,412 Yo. 395 00:20:40,804 --> 00:20:42,371 - Yo. 396 00:20:42,415 --> 00:20:44,112 - Yo, you look great. 397 00:20:44,155 --> 00:20:47,028 And then, right here, this is where she just exploded. 398 00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:49,770 I mean, she became Cinderella. 399 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:51,598 This is what he saw. 400 00:20:51,641 --> 00:20:53,774 When he's here to pesh up, everyone else saw this homely, 401 00:20:53,817 --> 00:20:55,558 very, very shy woman. 402 00:20:55,602 --> 00:20:59,040 He saw really a beautiful person, inside and out. 403 00:20:59,083 --> 00:21:01,869 And she really sold it in that moment. 404 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,786 This is the game changer. 405 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,006 This man's name is Garrett Brown, he's an inventor, 406 00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:12,053 he lives in Philadelphia and just out of luck, 407 00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,751 he goes, "I got this camera called the Steadicam." 408 00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:17,319 I go, "Excuse me?" It kinda looks like a vacuum cleaner. 409 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:20,017 But no, this thing was amazing. 410 00:21:20,061 --> 00:21:24,326 You could run as fast as you could, be on a bouncy truck, 411 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:27,547 yet the picture is incredibly level. 412 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:30,506 And here we are in this very, very inexpensive film 413 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:33,509 using a revolutionary camera, which really, 414 00:21:33,553 --> 00:21:35,685 basically revolutionized the business 415 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:38,384 and is used probably on every movie there is 416 00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:39,820 around the world. 417 00:21:39,863 --> 00:21:40,734 Extraordinary. 418 00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:48,263 Oh yeah, fight night. 419 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,745 Carl, we had this idea of him being Uncle Sam. 420 00:21:51,788 --> 00:21:53,964 I thought, we're gonna push the envelope here. 421 00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:56,271 This probably was so much out of our budget 422 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,664 we could barely afford it. 423 00:21:57,707 --> 00:21:59,056 The robe they made for me 424 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:00,971 was for a guy who was six foot five 425 00:22:01,015 --> 00:22:03,017 but again, we work it into the movie. 426 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:04,932 "Don't you think this robe is kind of baggy?" 427 00:22:04,975 --> 00:22:07,151 "Eh it looks great, don't worry about it." 428 00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:13,723 We don't have many extras, 429 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,769 so the camera angles are very, very important 430 00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:17,510 to be shooting up 431 00:22:17,553 --> 00:22:19,163 and these little lights which you see in the background 432 00:22:19,207 --> 00:22:21,949 which add depth of field, these Christmas lights, 433 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:23,951 they're very effective. 434 00:22:23,994 --> 00:22:28,956 And out here, we're starting out working on the choreography 435 00:22:28,999 --> 00:22:32,394 that eventually will be almost punch for punch 436 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:36,355 exactly what happens in the final product. 437 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:39,053 So it's interesting to see how, bam bam. 438 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:43,710 It worked! 439 00:22:43,753 --> 00:22:45,189 I mean, it was shocking. 440 00:22:45,233 --> 00:22:47,757 I enjoy seeing this here. 441 00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:49,237 Of course, you never know when you get out there. 442 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,892 It could be the biggest waste oftime 443 00:22:51,935 --> 00:22:54,024 and you go oh, it looks really phony, 444 00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:57,419 but we're able to take it from the gym 445 00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:00,509 where you didn't know, I mean, 446 00:23:00,553 --> 00:23:02,859 you have to understand, we didn't know what we were doing. 447 00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:05,688 No one ever rehearsed for months and months and months 448 00:23:05,732 --> 00:23:07,255 and months and months. 449 00:23:07,298 --> 00:23:09,866 And boxing films weren't very, very popular, 450 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,652 so I thought, are we just really wasting our time? 451 00:23:12,695 --> 00:23:15,263 Or is this actually going to translate into something? 452 00:23:15,306 --> 00:23:17,396 So every day you go in there, 453 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:20,660 I hope this is just not gonna be an embarrassment. 454 00:23:20,703 --> 00:23:23,793 From that little gym, it worked in the big picture. 455 00:23:23,837 --> 00:23:25,665 Punch for punch. 456 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:29,190 And we were able to do this time and time and time again, 457 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:33,063 which is why I always advocate for a long, long, 458 00:23:33,107 --> 00:23:36,153 long rehearsal for boxing films. 459 00:23:36,197 --> 00:23:38,678 And most people don't do it. 460 00:23:38,721 --> 00:23:40,549 It's well worth the effort. 461 00:23:45,075 --> 00:23:45,946 - He can't even get his gloves up 462 00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:47,513 to protect himself. 463 00:23:47,556 --> 00:23:49,340 - Here's Carl just laying it on me. 464 00:23:49,384 --> 00:23:50,211 Oh! 465 00:23:50,254 --> 00:23:51,647 Beautiful. 466 00:23:51,691 --> 00:23:54,433 His timing is amazing, it reallyis. 467 00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:56,086 The canvas was interesting. 468 00:23:56,130 --> 00:23:58,611 We designed these stars which was reminiscent 469 00:23:58,654 --> 00:24:00,134 of Apollo Creed's trunks. 470 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:23,157 The acting started six months earlier in the gym, 471 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,855 and you're just hoping it works there. 472 00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:31,644 We've been building up to this, right here. 473 00:24:31,687 --> 00:24:33,384 This is the harder part. 474 00:24:33,428 --> 00:24:36,736 How do you keep the audience engaged with the drama 475 00:24:36,779 --> 00:24:38,302 that these men are going through, 476 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:41,044 and the trauma what they're going through. 477 00:24:48,791 --> 00:24:52,229 This I believe is after the show. 478 00:24:52,273 --> 00:24:54,057 We're all pretty much wrapped up 479 00:24:54,101 --> 00:24:56,146 and having a little bit of barbecue 480 00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:59,106 with John and his children. 481 00:25:01,282 --> 00:25:03,284 In my Howdy Doody shirt. 482 00:25:05,765 --> 00:25:07,941 This is uh, I guess, yeah, 483 00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:10,465 it has to be probably while we're editing 484 00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:11,945 because my hair is longer in this part. 485 00:25:11,988 --> 00:25:13,163 This is great. 486 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:20,780 We tried to keep this as free tothe core, 487 00:25:20,823 --> 00:25:21,955 this kind of family group. 488 00:25:21,998 --> 00:25:24,479 Bill Conti, who I cannot express 489 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:26,176 how important he was to this movie. 490 00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:28,788 His music just took it to another level. 491 00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:31,965 Yeah, classical music in an un-classical film. 492 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:33,967 Very interesting dynamic. 493 00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,231 They wanted to put in rock music at one time 494 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:39,929 and was talking about even Jimi Hendrix 495 00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:43,498 and bringing in Bill, he figured it all out. 496 00:25:54,074 --> 00:25:55,815 There's John's children 497 00:25:55,858 --> 00:25:56,685 Hey Rufus. 498 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:04,084 I believe we opened up in maybe two theaters 499 00:26:04,127 --> 00:26:07,391 and this is the place where I was an usher 500 00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,351 several years earlier. 501 00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:12,179 Two doors away at the Baronette, 502 00:26:12,222 --> 00:26:14,616 and I would also work over there at Cinema 2. 503 00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:18,402 And now I'm back with a film. 504 00:26:18,446 --> 00:26:21,667 That was my beloved manager JaneOliver. 505 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:22,755 She was great. 506 00:26:22,798 --> 00:26:24,670 And then John with his son. 507 00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:28,891 And the irony of being in this movie theater 508 00:26:28,935 --> 00:26:30,937 where I used to go back and forth with my brother 509 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,721 there all the time 510 00:26:32,765 --> 00:26:35,419 and he was singing on the corner and I'm carrying tickets 511 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:39,032 and now I'm in the theater, I'm on the marquis. 512 00:26:39,075 --> 00:26:40,555 How did this happen? 513 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:41,425 It's amazing. 514 00:26:42,905 --> 00:26:46,866 And this was in also on the West Coast, in Westwood. 515 00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:52,393 In one year, my life exploded for the better. 516 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:55,483 So I tell people, you never know. 517 00:26:55,526 --> 00:27:00,314 You just never, never know if you're gonna hit the lottery. 518 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,142 You just gotta keep buying tickets, 519 00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:03,578 you gotta keep going for it. 520 00:27:04,971 --> 00:27:07,408 Yeah, I used to cut my own hair, I know, I know. 521 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:10,672 Don't comment on it. 522 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:12,805 I was too cheap to hire a barber at the time. 523 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:14,110 I didn't know any better. 524 00:27:15,938 --> 00:27:18,201 Here on the lobby just greeting customers. 525 00:27:18,245 --> 00:27:21,422 I felt like hey, thank you for showing up. 526 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:22,989 I didn't know how long it was going to last, 527 00:27:23,032 --> 00:27:25,774 I didn't know it was going to be successful. 528 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:29,038 You're a very lucky person when you can find out 529 00:27:29,082 --> 00:27:31,345 the best friend you ever had is some character 530 00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,739 that just popped out of your mind, 531 00:27:33,782 --> 00:27:36,480 someone who was always there when things got rough 532 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,352 and never quit on you. 533 00:27:38,395 --> 00:27:41,094 That's what I look at Rocky as, my best friend. 534 00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:50,103 - And the winner is, Rocky, 535 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:53,410 Irwin Winkler and Robert Chartoff 536 00:27:53,454 --> 00:27:56,239 - To all the Rockys in the world, I love you. 39492

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