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(shutter clicks)
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(cheering)
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(orchestral music)
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[Sylvester] It was early in
the morning
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on the streets of Philadelphia.
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It was freezing cold.
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And I just started to feel
something welling inside.
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And they go, "Sly, are you
ready?"
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I go, "I'm not.
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"But Rocky is."
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(inspirational orchestral music)
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I was a complete unknown,
even unknown to myself.
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And I had this idea.
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A lot of peo
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e were feeling
kind of the way I was, going nowhere fast.
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And I didn't know whether I had
it or not.
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So I wrote this story about an
underdog,
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a person who wasn't very
appreciated,
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and I was
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ven a break by United Artist and
now, you had to put up or shut up,
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so I couldn't believe my good
fortune
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and every day we'd go to the
studio
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and work on the script a little
bit.
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Of course, I had a bit of
an odd personality I guess.
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Maybe I was born
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o play this part, I don't know, but it
just seemed to fit into all the things
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that I sort of believed in.
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Anyway, we started working on
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experimental ideas about boxing.
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There had been many boxing films
like,
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maybe over 300 made in Hollywood
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and they weren't very successful
so
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I couldn't believe my good luck
here
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when they're doing a boxing
film about this character.
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But the point is, it wasn't a
boxing film.
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It was a story about
obsolescence,
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about not getting an opportunity
in life,
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and more importantly, eventually,
a serious love story.
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And he happens to be a boxer.
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So the relationship comes
a little bit later on
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but it's the key to the whole
movie.
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John Avildsen in the background.
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He always took these,
he's driving me crazy
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with these eight millimeter
films
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but here we are, so I'm glad he
did it.
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But at the time I thought,
what a waste of film.
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Now, Mike Westmore, who
was a great, great, great
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makeup artist, part of
the Westmore family,
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he started doing all of the
experiments.
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Here again, I'm just overdoing
everything.
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Makeup tests.
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And it was great, but I ended
up with barely any eyebrows
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left the rest of my
life, so there is that.
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At one time I actually
wanted Rocky to look
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very, very punchy and I thought,
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why don't you glue my nose
to the side of my face?
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So they got this kind
of colostomy bad glue
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and it was so bad, it
looked like a cartoon,
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like I had run into a wall like
Gumby.
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So anyway as you can see, I
took things to kind of extremes.
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I mean, it looks like a lost
clam.
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We got lucky with Burgess
Meredith
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who was a world class actor
with 50 years experience
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and he took it very serious.
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He was f
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tastic and developed his characterthat
was based on a real character
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and he had all the mannerisms.
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'Cause I did real good last
night,
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and you should've seen me.
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Big deal.
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You should've seen me, too.
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Hey, kid.
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You ever think about retiring?
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No.
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You think about it.
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[Sylvester] My friend
Stan Shaw in the back.
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Great guy.
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(dramatic music)
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I didn't know anything.
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You know, I talked a good game
like, yeah, I'm a good boxer.
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I didn't know how to box
anything, except maybe oranges.
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But I was willing to try.
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The character was not supposed
to be a gifted fighter.
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He was gifted in other ways.
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He just could take an
incredible amount of punishment,
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and he was fighting for an
ideal.
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He had no allusions that he was
a winner,
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he just wanted an opportunity.
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Then we came across this
amazing guy, Carl Weathers,
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the gr
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test film boxer of all
time.
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This man could move.
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Well, he was a world class
athlete and a great actor,
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but God, could he move.
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This is us really
beginning to figure it out.
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There was a situation happening.
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They had hired a choreographer
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and the choreographer was used
to doing old-fashioned films
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like you hit me, I hit
you, you hit me, I hit you.
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And that's what was normally
done in a closeup of two guys
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just sort of, as we say,
shoe-shining.
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One-two, one-two, one-two,
one-two.
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And I thought you know, let's
try to do something different.
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Oh, look who just popped up.
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My brother.
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He was a great singer, is a
great singer,
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and I thought well, since I
can't afford anyone else,
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I'll use him.
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♪ I said I been told by ♪
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♪ Do do do do ♪
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♪ Some people and they all ♪
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Now here's him in the ring,
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really showing his love and
appreciation for the job.
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Appreciate it, like start
tackling me, knocking me down.
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Of course I'm trying to
make him feel good here
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by getting a concussion.
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Back to Carl, he's improving a
great deal.
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And I said to the stunt
coordinator,
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I said, "Why doesn't Carl come
out
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"and hit me like four jabs on
the right?
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He goes, "That isn't the way it
is."
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I said, "Well how about
three jabs on the right?"
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He goes, "No, just follow my
thing."
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I said, "Well, I wanna
see something different."
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He goes, "Okay.
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"I quit."
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So he left, and I was stuck,
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and Irwin looked at me
like hey, who are you to...
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Well this is the guy actually
right before he left.
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His name was I think Stackler
or something like that.
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Nice guy, but he had his
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old-fashioned way of doing
something,
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and I wanted it to look as
close to real as possible,
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and usually boxing films,
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the actors really were not
in any kind of great shape
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and they didn't work any
kind of choreography,
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it was sort of done on the fly.
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You hit me, I hit you,
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and no one was ever in
really excellent shape
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so we started writing it up.
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The director said hey, why
don't you write it out?
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And I thought okay, you mean
like a dance?
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Absolutely like a dance.
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Then we hired Jimmy Nickerson
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and he got in some semi-pros
here
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who blocked out the actual real
boxing
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and I would study it and go hmm,
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that's believable, that's
believable.
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And then I started to borrow things
from the world's greatest fights
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and condense them into
moments in our film.
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So everything you've ever seen
in Rocky
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has actually happened before.
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In the back there's famous Gene
LeBell,
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world famous stuntman and Judo
champion.
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This is all practice footage,
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and he's working on Jimmy
Nickerson
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who insists on him
actually hitting him a lot,
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which I don't know what was
going through Jimmy's head.
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He actually did get knocked out.
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There's Gene LeBell practicing.
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He's overacting as his (laughs)
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as a referee.
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I never
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w a referee
get into a full squat, but why not?
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This is footage that was
never seen in the movie.
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It was supposed to be in the
movie.
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Rocky is watching Apollo
knock all these people out.
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Mickey is going, "You don't
have a chance," basically.
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This is a real fighter
named Sonny Shields,
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father of the world class
fighter named Randy Shields.
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He thought Carl was just an
actor,
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I said he's a powerful
man, and he blasted him,
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and eventually knocked
him down again, for real.
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We never used this footage,
which is unfortunate.
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It was a work in progress.
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So in between setups, I would
constantly be re-writing
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and re-writing (laughs)
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and trying to make this thing
work
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for the budget that we
had, which was nothing.
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And our locations were pretty,
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you know, pretty sparse.
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But you know, I think that
worked out for the best.
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I hadn't figured out
Rocky's color combination,
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so this is just us practicing
basically choreography
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and makeup tests.
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And you can see like the
ropes hanging on the ground.
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This was again, just for us,
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too much smoke or too much
makeup,
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we were trying to figure out.
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Like this.
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Hey, anybody want a hamburger?
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How you doin'?
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Like, little bit of overacting
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putting the cart in
front of the horse here.
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I think Carl again, this
was mostly a makeup test.
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This place was freezing by the
way,
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it was in the dead of winter,
so.
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It was not conducive
to moving around a lot.
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But again, we did what we could
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because we were borrowing
the Olympic Auditorium.
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And we're seeing how close we
could get with the punches.
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Those are actual eight ounce
gloves
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that are not doctored up,
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and when you get hit with them,
it's...
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My eye is closed, your depth
perception
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is way off.
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So this is what these
rehearsals helped with,
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figuring out what works
and what doesn't work.
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Oh there's my father.
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We're sitting around before the
film
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kind of figuring out theúlogistics with the set designer
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and it was great to be
part of all of this.
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I didn't know what I was
doing, but it sounded good
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and it looked good.
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And we were pretty passionate
about it.
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But really there's something
good
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about not knowing everything,
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you're just throwing
yourself headlong into it.
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Made my father the bell
ringer, that was interesting.
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He'd always ring the bell
about 20 seconds late
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and I would take a beating.
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And I kept going, is this kind
of Freudian by any chance?
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That's me wearing my incredibly
expensive York shirt.
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Kind of hung up on the
tank tops at the time,
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I don't know why.
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Storyboards are something
I'd never seen before.
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It was very interesting.
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It was laid out what
we were supposed to do.
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This whole kind of ritual of two
men
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getting ready to face one
another,
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Rocky being incredibly inferior
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and Carl, or Apollo Creed,
just taking it as another day
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in the life of a champion, no
big deal.
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But all these maneuvers
here like the Vick's
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and the greasing up, this is
pretty much
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what we were taught by authentic
trainers.
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Rocky knows he's basically
going to get slaughtered
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so he's just praying he
doesn't get hurt too much.
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And Carl, this is the first
time we actually see him
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get serious in the film as
Apollo Creed.
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You won't believe this camera.
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This is so gigantic.
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Everything we had was, I don't
know,
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just scraping things together.
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This gigantic camera, that
we had to lash to the car.
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They don't even exist anymore.
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This fella here, his
name was Jimmy Gambina,
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he was also a trainer,
his father's a trainer,
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and I thought I'd put him in a
movie
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'cause he was really
some kind of character.
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And it worked out.
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Don't you think you oughta
take a rest?
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No, my back is hurt.
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Your back?
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My back is hurt.
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You deaf?
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No, I'm short.
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[Sylvester] As I was
getting prepared again,
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me being very mature between
takes,
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this is how I prepare for a movie, by
chasing Adrian with a meat cleaver.
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You think it's a little odd
perhaps.
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We tried to keep it loose.
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It was a lot of fun in
a way, and I tend to
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ot want to walk around all
moody, and I just try to
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keep it relaxed 'cause if you're
relaxed,
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the rest of the crew is relaxed.
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And then you turn it on when you
have to,
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so you can see me with Joe
Spinell who played Mr. Gazzo
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and John Avildsen,
makeup man Mike Westmore,
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and we're just having a good
time.
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That hat was a real bone of
contention.
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Nobody wanted me to wear the
hat.
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They wanted me to just
be, you know, bareheaded.
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I go, (groans)
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So there was a store there
and I bought the hat,
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there's the director's children,
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bought that hat for like $3
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and I wanna wear the hat.
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And the producer goes,
"You can't wear this hat."
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and I go, "Why?"
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He says, "Because,
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"Gene Hackman wore it
in French Connection."
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I says, "So, that's the end of
hats?
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"So, hats are banned?"
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I said, "It kind of
tops off the character."
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And I just went ahead and used
the hat.
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I'd never seen a hat like it,
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it was like this cheap,
felt, cardboard hat,
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but it just worked perfectly,
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and I think made a great
impression on the character.
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I think it just set the whole
thing like a suit of armor.
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It was a costume that he
was sort of hiding behind.
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And then when you see
him put on the glasses
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like they should realize, he's
not this real tough specimen,
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he's kind of nerdy in a way.
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Oh yeah, this is us in between
takes, just hanging out.
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This is a scene that was
amazing.
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I wrote it for 300 extras.
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And Adrian was s
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posed to be taken out on the ice by this
incredible ice skater and he's showing off
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and I'm sort of humiliated
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and then I get into sort
of a beef with the fella.
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I show up on the set, they said,
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"Well, we've had to cut the
extras back a little bit."
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I go, "To what?"
306
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He goes, "To none."
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You're kidding me!
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How about a heads up?
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So I went back and I started
re-writing immediately
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and, well, the proof is in the
pudding.
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It became just the two of us on
the ice
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and since I can't ice skate,
Rocky runs alongside of her.
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That's George Memmoli who
was a great character,
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actor and a friend,
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and it turned out to be
a thousand times better
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if there had been a big, big
crowd here.
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So, again, taking the negative
and making it a positive.
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Got very lucky on that day.
319
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But that scene sort of set the
tone for Rocky's first date.
320
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He wasn't used to you know,
being very... (laughs)
321
00:16:20,246 --> 00:16:22,247
Well we'll just say
sophisticated,
322
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but I think that was part of
his charm was his honesty.
323
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No it's okay, it's okay.
324
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Hey listen, are you closed
to the general public,
325
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or are you just closed to
everybody, you know what I mean?
326
00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,428
You can see here, we really
struggling.
327
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She was not exactly you
know, Ice Capades either.
328
00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:42,334
We're just struggling
out there which I thought
329
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kind of reflected on who they
were, too.
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It's like, neither one of
them is very graceful in life.
331
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But together, they're a perfect
fit, they really really are.
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I almost b
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ke my neck on this about 10 times.
This turned out to be very, very good.
334
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You can see where John's
rehearsals
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were absolutely duplicated in
reality,
336
00:17:04,657 --> 00:17:06,158
so it was a perfect thing.
337
00:17:07,426 --> 00:17:09,795
I tell you, things get
pretty rough in the rink.
338
00:17:13,266 --> 00:17:17,168
Again, this is the
makeup with Mike Westmore
339
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and we'd be running lines here.
340
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So we've hit the ground running.
341
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I like to learn a lot of
dialogue
342
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a long time before the
production
343
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so you can let it go and ad lib
344
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and then come back to the
script.
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And Burgess, who's a classically
trained actor and I wasn't,
346
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was totally on board with that.
347
00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:40,258
And he was just fantastic.
348
00:17:40,259 --> 00:17:43,128
He's really a consummate
performer.
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I didn't realize it at the time
350
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'cause I had never worked
with anyone that good,
351
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,669
but now, as I reflect on
it, one of the greatest.
352
00:17:52,371 --> 00:17:55,240
This was an actual
apartment, believe it or not,
353
00:17:55,241 --> 00:17:59,110
and I thought we should add
some things that are a bit odd,
354
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like a mattress stuck to
the wall full of bayonets.
355
00:18:02,415 --> 00:18:05,250
Don't explain it, just,
that's the way he lives.
356
00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:07,687
And a bowl full of turtles and
so on.
357
00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:13,092
(inspirational music)
358
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We couldn't afford a hose
to wet down the street,
359
00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,671
so we'd do it by buckets.
360
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,209
Rocky solidifies his
relationship with Mickey
361
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after a tempestuous brawl
a few moments earlier
362
00:18:34,513 --> 00:18:37,716
where he just unloaded on
Mickey about being ignored.
363
00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:39,284
But that's what made the
character,
364
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he's just always forgiving.
365
00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:44,723
This
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00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:46,658
s my friend Gene Kirkwood, he was very, very
important in having the film actually made.
367
00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,128
And Burt Young, who was
fantastic.
368
00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:58,837
We start in Philadelphia and
we end up here, this is L.A.,
369
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running along the side of
the meat packing place.
370
00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:02,708
I don't know exactly why
I wrote in a slider house,
371
00:19:07,179 --> 00:19:10,515
but it was just an idea.
372
00:19:10,516 --> 00:19:14,419
Like boxers are considered meat,
you know,
373
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we don't think of them as you
know,
374
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regular human beings, but they
are.
375
00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:20,925
They have a lot of heart and
soul,
376
00:19:20,926 --> 00:19:23,728
they're not just flesh to be hit
upon.
377
00:19:23,729 --> 00:19:27,232
And so that was somewhat a
symbolic move,
378
00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:29,635
a little heavy-handed
but I think it worked.
379
00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:37,809
And here we are outside.
380
00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,713
Yeah, with my dog Butkus
which was actually my dog
381
00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:45,216
and I thought Rocky and the
dog looked very much alike,
382
00:19:45,217 --> 00:19:47,185
so I wanted him in the movie.
383
00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,554
And I thought it again added
a little bit of character
384
00:19:49,555 --> 00:19:52,491
to who Rocky was, and it
was a gift from Adrian.
385
00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:57,862
This is a scene that
was made up on the spot.
386
00:19:57,863 --> 00:19:59,597
What's that, Butkus, huh?
387
00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:00,698
Whose truck is this?
388
00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,200
Come on.
389
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,768
I was supposed to just be in
there.
390
00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:05,937
I thought, you know, it'd
be great if he just shows up
391
00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:08,640
and there's Burt saying,
"Hey, hope you don't mind,
392
00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:11,576
"I called your television
network,
393
00:20:11,577 --> 00:20:14,579
"and I'm basically here to
embarrass you."
394
00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:16,581
And of course, Rocky takes it in
stride
395
00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:19,618
and goes along with it 'cause
he's that kind of a guy.
396
00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:26,591
This place was so magical.
397
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:28,526
I mean just these streets,
398
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,962
I go back there every now and
then.
399
00:20:30,963 --> 00:20:32,664
It's amazing.
400
00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:35,300
They're so small, so
narrow, so claustrophobic,
401
00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:38,436
the terrain is just so
graphically interesting.
402
00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:39,371
Yo.
403
00:20:40,606 --> 00:20:42,307
Yo.
404
00:20:42,308 --> 00:20:43,875
Yo, you look great.
405
00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:46,811
And then, right here, this
is where she just exploded.
406
00:20:46,812 --> 00:20:49,614
I mean, she became Cinderella.
407
00:20:49,615 --> 00:20:51,483
This is what he saw.
408
00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:53,618
When he's here to pesh up,
everyone else saw this homely,
409
00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,453
very, very shy woman.
410
00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:58,823
He saw really a beautiful
person, inside and out.
411
00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:01,727
And she really sold it in that
moment.
412
00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,664
This is the game changer.
413
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,800
This man's name is Garrett
Brown, he's an inventor,
414
00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:11,836
he lives in Philadelphia
and just out of luck,
415
00:21:11,837 --> 00:21:14,606
he goes, "I got this camera
called the Steadicam."
416
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,275
I go, "Excuse me?" It kinda
looks like a vacuum cleaner.
417
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,811
But no, this thing was amazing.
418
00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:24,048
You could run as fast as you
could, be on a bouncy truck,
419
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:27,452
yet the picture is incredibly
level.
420
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:30,421
And here we are in this
very, very inexpensive film
421
00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:33,424
using a revolutionary
camera, which really,
422
00:21:33,425 --> 00:21:35,560
basically revolutionized the
business
423
00:21:35,561 --> 00:21:38,329
and is used probably
on every movie there is
424
00:21:38,330 --> 00:21:39,664
around the world.
425
00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:40,633
Extraordinary.
426
00:21:46,038 --> 00:21:48,039
Oh yeah, fight night.
427
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,609
Carl
428
00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:53,778
we had this idea of him being Uncle Sam. I
thought, we're gonna push the envelope here.
429
00:21:53,779 --> 00:21:56,014
This probably was so
much out of our budget
430
00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:57,549
we could barely afford it.
431
00:21:57,550 --> 00:21:58,850
The robe they made for me
432
00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:00,785
was for a guy who was six foot
five
433
00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:02,820
but again, we work it into the
movie.
434
00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,756
"Don't you think this
robe is kind of baggy?"
435
00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,959
"Eh it looks great, don't worry
about it."
436
00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:13,598
We don't have many extras,
437
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:15,633
so the camera angles
are very, very important
438
00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:17,435
to be shooting up
439
00:22:17,436 --> 00:22:18,937
and these little lights which
you see in the background
440
00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,773
which add depth of field,
these Christmas lights,
441
00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:23,775
they're very effective.
442
00:22:23,776 --> 00:22:28,780
And out here, we're starting
out working on the choreography
443
00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:32,116
that eventually will be
almost punch for punch
444
00:22:32,117 --> 00:22:36,087
exactly what happens in the
final product.
445
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,856
So it's interesting to see how,
bam bam.
446
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,993
(cheers)
447
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:43,596
It worked!
448
00:22:43,597 --> 00:22:44,963
I mean, it was shocking.
449
00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:47,632
I enjoy seeing this here.
450
00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:49,000
Of course, you never know
when you get out there.
451
00:22:49,001 --> 00:22:51,736
It could be the biggest waste of
time
452
00:22:51,737 --> 00:22:53,838
and you go oh, it looks really
phony,
453
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:57,409
but we're able to take it from
the gym
454
00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:00,445
where you didn't know, I mean,
455
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,714
you have to understand, we
didn't know what we were doing.
456
00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:05,583
No one ever rehearsed for
months and months and months
457
00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,018
and months and months.
458
00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:09,721
And boxing films weren't
very, very popular,
459
00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:12,557
so I thought, are we just
really wasting our time?
460
00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,026
Or is this actually going
to translate into something?
461
00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:17,128
So every day you go in there,
(grumbles)
462
00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:20,565
I hope this is just not
gonna be an embarrassment.
463
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,668
From that little gym, it
worked in the big picture.
464
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:25,570
Punch for punch.
465
00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:29,008
And we were able to do this
time and time and time again,
466
00:23:32,878 --> 00:23:35,947
ich is why I always advocate for a long,
long, long rehearsal for boxing films.
467
00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,583
And most people don't do it.
468
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,485
It's well worth the effort.
469
00:23:40,486 --> 00:23:43,155
(dramatic music)
470
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:45,791
[Announcer] He can't
even get his gloves up
471
00:23:45,792 --> 00:23:47,458
to protect himself.
472
00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:49,093
[Sylvester] Here's Carl
just laying it on me.
473
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:49,995
Oh!
474
00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,562
Beautiful.
475
00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:54,165
His timing is amazing, it really
is.
476
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,900
The canvas was interesting.
477
00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:58,536
We designed these stars
which was reminiscent
478
00:23:58,537 --> 00:23:59,972
of Apollo Creed's trunks.
479
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,978
(inspirational orchestral music)
480
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:22,961
The acting started six
months earlier in the gym,
481
00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,764
and you're just hoping it works
there.
482
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,569
We've been building up
to this, right here.
483
00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,137
This is the harder part.
484
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:36,641
How do you keep the audience
engaged with the drama
485
00:24:36,642 --> 00:24:38,076
that these men are going
through,
486
00:24:38,077 --> 00:24:40,878
and the trauma what they're
going through.
487
00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:43,482
(calm music)
488
00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:52,023
This I believe is after the
show.
489
00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:53,891
We're all pretty much wrapped up
490
00:24:53,892 --> 00:24:55,960
and having a little bit of
barbecue
491
00:24:55,961 --> 00:24:58,964
with John and his children.
492
00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:03,102
In my Howdy Doody shirt.
493
00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,805
This is uh, I guess, yeah,
494
00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:10,208
it has to be probably while
we're editing
495
00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:11,809
because my hair is longer in
this part.
496
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,011
This is great.
497
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,685
We tried to keep this as free to
the core,
498
00:25:20,686 --> 00:25:21,819
this kind of family group.
499
00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,222
Bill Conti, who I cannot express
500
00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:25,990
how important he was to this
movie.
501
00:25:25,991 --> 00:25:28,693
His music just took it to
another level.
502
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,829
Yeah, classical music
in an un-classical film.
503
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,865
Very interesting dynamic.
504
00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:37,035
They wan
505
00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,804
d to put in rock music at one time and
was talking about even Jimi Hendrix
506
00:25:39,805 --> 00:25:43,275
and bringing in Bill,
he figured it all out.
507
00:25:53,886 --> 00:25:55,720
There's John's children (laughs)
508
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:56,655
Hey Rufus.
509
00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:03,928
I believe we opened up
in maybe two theaters
510
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:07,199
and this is the place where I
was an usher
511
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,134
several years earlier.
512
00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:12,003
Two doors away at the Baronette,
513
00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,606
and I would also work
over there at Cinema 2.
514
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,176
And now I'm back with a film.
515
00:26:18,177 --> 00:26:21,612
That was my beloved manager Jane
Oliver.
516
00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:22,680
She was great.
517
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:24,615
And then John with his son.
518
00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:28,786
And the irony of being
in this movie theater
519
00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:30,822
where I used to go back
and forth with my brother
520
00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,657
there all the time
521
00:26:32,658 --> 00:26:35,193
and he was singing on the
corner and I'm carrying tickets
522
00:26:35,194 --> 00:26:38,896
and now I'm in the theater,
I'm on the marquis.
523
00:26:38,897 --> 00:26:40,298
How did this happen?
524
00:26:40,299 --> 00:26:41,233
It's amazing.
525
00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:46,805
And this was in also on the
West Coast, in Westwood.
526
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,211
In one year, my life
exploded for the better.
527
00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,246
So I tell people, you never
know.
528
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:55,981
You just never, never know if
you're gonna hit the lottery.
529
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:01,986
You just gotta k
530
00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:03,355
p buying
tickets, you gotta keep going for it.
531
00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:07,226
Yeah, I used to cut my
own hair, I know, I know.
532
00:27:08,894 --> 00:27:10,394
Don't comment on it.
533
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:12,730
I was too cheap to hire
a barber at the time.
534
00:27:12,731 --> 00:27:13,999
I didn't know any better.
535
00:27:15,801 --> 00:27:18,035
Here on the lobby just greeting
customers.
536
00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,205
I felt like hey, thank you for
showing up.
537
00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:22,874
I didn't know how long
it was going to last,
538
00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,743
I didn't know it was
going to be successful.
539
00:27:25,744 --> 00:27:28,913
Yo
540
00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,149
re a very lucky person when you can find outthe
best friend you ever had is some character
541
00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:33,684
that just popped out of your
mind,
542
00:27:33,685 --> 00:27:36,254
someone who was always
there when things got rough
543
00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:38,156
and never quit on you.
544
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,993
That's what I look at
Rocky as, my best friend.
545
00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:44,129
(applause)
546
00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:49,967
And the winner is, Rocky,
(cheering)
547
00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,204
Irwin Winkler and Robert
Chartoff
548
00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:56,073
To all the Rockys in
the world, I love you.
549
00:27:56,074 --> 00:27:58,343
(applause)
550
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:03,749
(inspirational orchestral music)
551
00:28:39,284 --> 00:28:43,055
(dramatic orchestral music)
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