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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,181 --> 00:00:09,531 [dramatic music] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:42,433 --> 00:00:45,523 [elephants rumbling] 5 00:00:57,622 --> 00:00:59,929 [splashing] 6 00:01:10,635 --> 00:01:11,462 [elephant trumpeting] 7 00:01:11,549 --> 00:01:12,289 [helicopter roaring] 8 00:01:14,552 --> 00:01:17,077 [tense music] 9 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:22,038 [gun firing] 10 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:25,346 [elephants trumpeting] 11 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,629 Jambo [Hello] 12 00:01:47,716 --> 00:01:52,677 [spear thudding] [elephants trumpeting] 13 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:02,252 [peaceful music] 14 00:02:12,871 --> 00:02:15,657 [harp glissando] 15 00:02:44,425 --> 00:02:46,601 - [Narrator] Our ancestors originally came 16 00:02:46,688 --> 00:02:48,168 from the tropical rainforest. 17 00:02:48,951 --> 00:02:51,606 So, the tropical rainforest in a sense, 18 00:02:51,693 --> 00:02:55,262 is our Garden of Eden. And the gardeners 19 00:02:55,349 --> 00:03:00,310 in the Garden of Eden are the megafauna: the orangutans, 20 00:03:01,659 --> 00:03:04,967 the elephants, and occasionally the rhinoceros, 21 00:03:05,054 --> 00:03:06,011 believe it or not. 22 00:03:07,448 --> 00:03:09,972 The fate of tropical rainforest 23 00:03:10,059 --> 00:03:13,584 is inextricably tied to the fate of these megafauna. 24 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:16,935 [elephant trumpeting] 25 00:03:17,022 --> 00:03:19,024 So, do we need rainforests? 26 00:03:19,111 --> 00:03:21,244 Of course we need rainforests. 27 00:03:21,331 --> 00:03:23,942 We need oxygen, we need to breath. 28 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:27,729 It's a cliché to say by saving orangutans 29 00:03:27,816 --> 00:03:30,514 or by saving elephants, we are saving ourselves. 30 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:34,388 But it's actually true if we look at the longterm. 31 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:38,218 Humans are very bad at looking at the long term. 32 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:39,567 We want it now. 33 00:03:41,612 --> 00:03:44,398 - Yes, it's always very difficult in our terribly busy, 34 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:48,619 frantic, and dangerous world to focus on non-human issues. 35 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:56,671 But nevertheless there is a massive crisis going on 36 00:03:56,758 --> 00:03:58,499 with wildlife around the world. 37 00:03:58,586 --> 00:03:59,935 And it's not just the charismatic species 38 00:04:00,022 --> 00:04:01,197 that we're talking about. 39 00:04:01,284 --> 00:04:03,243 [cub growling] 40 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:04,809 There are a ton of smaller species 41 00:04:04,896 --> 00:04:07,856 that are also under massive threat and species 42 00:04:07,943 --> 00:04:10,162 that we don't favor quite so much. 43 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:12,861 [hyena cackling] 44 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:15,167 Evolution, or evolutionary biologists, some might say, 45 00:04:16,212 --> 00:04:18,258 and certainly creationists might say, 46 00:04:19,955 --> 00:04:23,088 and certainly religions might say, that the human being 47 00:04:23,175 --> 00:04:26,527 is the pinnacle of evolution. 48 00:04:26,614 --> 00:04:29,312 [engine roaring] 49 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:30,357 [baboon screeching] 50 00:04:30,444 --> 00:04:31,793 Well, if it is, we are one 51 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,230 of the stupidest species on the planet. 52 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:38,365 Because I cannot think of any other species 53 00:04:38,452 --> 00:04:42,847 that goes around intentionally trashing its own home. 54 00:04:45,459 --> 00:04:47,287 So, if we're the apex of evolution, 55 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:50,159 then if there is a God, He made a real mistake. 56 00:04:53,858 --> 00:04:57,079 - Once you understand there's no sharp line dividing us 57 00:04:57,166 --> 00:04:59,908 from the rest of the animal kingdom and that we are part 58 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:03,041 of the animal kingdom and not as we arrogantly suppose, 59 00:05:03,128 --> 00:05:05,827 somehow separated, you then can ask yourself, 60 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:09,309 "Well, okay how is it that we're different?" 61 00:05:11,136 --> 00:05:12,747 because we are different. 62 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:14,270 And I think it's the explosive development 63 00:05:14,357 --> 00:05:15,924 of the human intellect. 64 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:19,710 And so how come the most intellectual species 65 00:05:19,797 --> 00:05:24,106 to ever walk the planet is wiping out the other life forms, 66 00:05:24,193 --> 00:05:26,413 is destroying ecosystems... 67 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:27,849 Because this, in the end, 68 00:05:27,936 --> 00:05:30,025 is going to lead to our destruction. 69 00:05:30,112 --> 00:05:33,768 So, we destroy these animals at our own peril 70 00:05:33,855 --> 00:05:37,032 without thinking of the future of our own species. 71 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:43,691 [plane roaring] 72 00:06:01,752 --> 00:06:04,146 The real cause of wildlife crime 73 00:06:04,233 --> 00:06:06,496 is corruption, and corruption, it's greed. 74 00:06:07,671 --> 00:06:11,458 The real conflict is powerful people, 75 00:06:11,545 --> 00:06:14,069 many times government officials, who are the ones 76 00:06:14,156 --> 00:06:15,679 in the heart of organized crime, 77 00:06:15,766 --> 00:06:18,160 that's basically activating hundreds of poachers, 78 00:06:18,247 --> 00:06:20,162 across many countries. 79 00:06:20,249 --> 00:06:23,165 The illegal wildlife trade is not rooted in poverty at all. 80 00:06:23,252 --> 00:06:26,255 In fact, poverty has nothing to do with this issue. 81 00:06:26,342 --> 00:06:29,171 It is in fact, the rich and the powerful 82 00:06:29,258 --> 00:06:31,391 that actually are the part of this problem. 83 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,307 - These are people that have made reputations 84 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:39,181 and made a very, very, very strong impact in the world 85 00:06:39,268 --> 00:06:41,183 and they've made that impact in a very violent way. 86 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:44,142 They've killed people, they've executed entire families, 87 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:47,276 they've bribed officials, they've put people in places 88 00:06:47,363 --> 00:06:48,669 where they can make decisions 89 00:06:48,756 --> 00:06:51,236 that impact policies and governments. 90 00:06:51,323 --> 00:06:53,935 You're not talking about you know, your run of the mill, 91 00:06:54,022 --> 00:06:58,505 poor poacher who's running around with a 1947 rifle. 92 00:06:58,592 --> 00:07:01,421 You're talking about extremely powerful, 93 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:04,336 extremely influential people in positions of power 94 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:07,296 that simply snap their fingers and make people disappear. 95 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,387 - [Director] Why are we not just going 96 00:07:11,474 --> 00:07:12,867 in there with drones? 97 00:07:12,954 --> 00:07:14,608 - I thought you wanted to hear the answer 98 00:07:14,695 --> 00:07:16,087 to the other question which was a much better question. 99 00:07:16,174 --> 00:07:17,480 - [Director] Okay, so the question is, 100 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:19,830 are we losing this war? 101 00:07:19,917 --> 00:07:21,353 - Yes, right now we certainly are. 102 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:23,399 And it's not just that we're losing the war, 103 00:07:23,486 --> 00:07:26,663 the rate at which we are losing the war is increasing. 104 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:29,274 There is evidence coming across my desk every day 105 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:31,059 of the gravity of the situation. 106 00:07:31,146 --> 00:07:34,497 It is more serious than anyone can express standing here. 107 00:07:34,584 --> 00:07:36,543 It's certainly easier to say, well, it isn't that bad. 108 00:07:36,630 --> 00:07:37,935 I'm looking at a small portion. 109 00:07:38,022 --> 00:07:39,894 My job is to look at the big scale. 110 00:07:39,981 --> 00:07:41,330 I've worked in the field in parks. 111 00:07:41,417 --> 00:07:42,331 I've worked in countries. 112 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:43,419 I've worked on regions. 113 00:07:43,506 --> 00:07:45,552 Now I look at bigger picture 114 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:48,729 and that bigger picture is really serious right now. 115 00:07:54,648 --> 00:07:58,739 - My interest in organized crime came from years 116 00:07:58,826 --> 00:08:02,264 of being a journalist, working in conflict areas 117 00:08:02,351 --> 00:08:04,092 and unstable areas of the world. 118 00:08:04,179 --> 00:08:07,574 And what I found was no matter where I went 119 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:11,273 whatever the so-called problem of the day was, 120 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,971 was predicated on crime and corruption. 121 00:08:14,058 --> 00:08:16,626 The U.S. government could have more impact 122 00:08:16,713 --> 00:08:19,934 if we go after the networks that facilitate all sorts 123 00:08:20,021 --> 00:08:21,762 of organized crime, instead of trying 124 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:24,895 to fight specific types of organized crime. 125 00:08:24,982 --> 00:08:27,898 There are far fewer people who know how to launder 126 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:31,511 and move large amounts of illicit cash 127 00:08:31,598 --> 00:08:34,514 than there are poachers sneaking into parks across Africa. 128 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:40,998 If we can stop the money, make it harder for them 129 00:08:41,085 --> 00:08:43,348 to move money through the global financial system 130 00:08:43,435 --> 00:08:45,916 we're going to have more impact in shutting this down. 131 00:08:46,003 --> 00:08:48,484 And not just the ivory problem, 132 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:51,966 but the human trafficking problem, tax evasion, 133 00:08:52,053 --> 00:08:55,273 the departure of revenues from corrupt 134 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,275 and developing countries. 135 00:08:57,362 --> 00:09:02,106 There are all sorts of treaties that already exist 136 00:09:02,193 --> 00:09:05,196 that prohibit the extraction of natural resources 137 00:09:05,283 --> 00:09:06,894 illegally from Africa. 138 00:09:06,981 --> 00:09:09,418 We could be applying those to the wildlife trade. 139 00:09:10,985 --> 00:09:12,987 And we need to think about this 140 00:09:13,074 --> 00:09:15,946 as not just a ecological disaster 141 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:17,339 but a national security issues, 142 00:09:17,426 --> 00:09:19,210 an international security issue. 143 00:09:19,297 --> 00:09:20,995 The people who are moving ivory, 144 00:09:21,082 --> 00:09:22,866 the people who are moving rhino horn, 145 00:09:22,953 --> 00:09:25,826 are the same people who are moving young women 146 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:28,655 from Bangkok to Africa and Europe, 147 00:09:28,742 --> 00:09:31,266 the same people who are moving drugs up 148 00:09:31,353 --> 00:09:32,746 into consumer markets. 149 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:34,704 It's the people who have the capacity 150 00:09:34,791 --> 00:09:36,184 to move illegal products 151 00:09:36,271 --> 00:09:37,664 through the global transport system. 152 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:39,535 And it's the people who have the capacity 153 00:09:39,622 --> 00:09:41,145 to launder illicit money 154 00:09:41,232 --> 00:09:42,886 through the global transport system. 155 00:09:42,973 --> 00:09:44,496 And so what the United States, 156 00:09:44,584 --> 00:09:46,890 and pretty much every other government does, 157 00:09:46,977 --> 00:09:50,024 is they stovepipe all of those different commodities 158 00:09:50,111 --> 00:09:52,635 and they give different departments the responsibility 159 00:09:52,722 --> 00:09:54,332 to deal with those different commodities. 160 00:09:54,419 --> 00:09:56,857 So, we will have a department that handles wildlife, 161 00:09:56,944 --> 00:09:58,859 we'll have a department that deals with narcotics 162 00:09:58,946 --> 00:10:00,774 and a department that handles terrorism. 163 00:10:00,861 --> 00:10:04,691 And the bad guys are all working together. 164 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:06,693 You know, you never see a drug trafficker 165 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,608 in Afghanistan who says, 166 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:10,958 "I'm not giving that Al Qaeda guy my heroine to carry. 167 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:13,525 "He doesn't have the authorities to carry my dope." 168 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:16,354 No, they're all working together. 169 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:30,455 - It's a wide range of different kinds of groups. 170 00:10:30,542 --> 00:10:32,675 Some are groups that have been designated 171 00:10:32,762 --> 00:10:35,547 as terrorist organizations by the U.S. government. 172 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:40,422 Some are rebel militias, some are organized crime networks 173 00:10:40,509 --> 00:10:43,425 and some are actually state actors, 174 00:10:43,512 --> 00:10:47,298 military or police units that are taking advantage 175 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:52,173 of natural resources in the region, for their own profits. 176 00:11:15,849 --> 00:11:18,634 - One of the biggest and least discussed problems 177 00:11:18,721 --> 00:11:22,072 in the world today is that the illicit extraction 178 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:24,292 of resources from most developing countries 179 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:26,947 is about 10 times what they get in foreign aid. 180 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:28,862 So you're never going to get ahead of this problem 181 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:30,167 until we can stop it. 182 00:11:30,254 --> 00:11:31,865 If we can stop the money 183 00:11:31,952 --> 00:11:34,955 we're gonna have more impact in shutting this down. 184 00:11:35,042 --> 00:11:37,435 We'll be able to have much more of an impact 185 00:11:37,522 --> 00:11:40,221 against these violent networks if we go after them 186 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:43,311 for their totality of their activities for drugs, 187 00:11:43,398 --> 00:11:45,617 for wildlife, for people, for guns. 188 00:11:47,054 --> 00:11:50,492 I hear these going in Africa as cheap as 75 dollars. 189 00:11:50,579 --> 00:11:53,190 A better quality one may be $100, $150, $200 dollars 190 00:11:53,277 --> 00:11:54,539 depending on what they are. 191 00:11:54,626 --> 00:11:56,411 - These are not hunting guns, right? 192 00:11:56,498 --> 00:11:59,327 - No, they're the best thing ever made for shooting people. 193 00:11:59,414 --> 00:12:00,415 Serious, that's what they're for. 194 00:12:00,502 --> 00:12:01,459 They're for shooting people. 195 00:12:01,546 --> 00:12:05,115 It's not a competition gun. 196 00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:07,074 It's not really intended for hunting. 197 00:12:07,161 --> 00:12:08,684 It's really probably one of the most efficient guns 198 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:10,468 ever made for shooting bad people. 199 00:12:10,555 --> 00:12:14,255 That's why they are so prolific in the world. 200 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:24,613 - This rhino horn here weighs six, seven pounds. 201 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:26,920 I don't remember if this is the front or the back. 202 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:29,705 I don't know that much about them, but alls I know 203 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:32,534 is this right here on the retail market 204 00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:34,971 is worth about 650,000 dollars. 205 00:12:36,059 --> 00:12:38,975 That amazes me to think that, because what 206 00:12:39,062 --> 00:12:44,067 that equivalates to is somewhere around 35,000 of these. 207 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:47,549 When you got $650,000 dollars in that horn right there 208 00:12:47,636 --> 00:12:49,943 and you can buy a bunch of these, how much terror 209 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:52,554 do you think this whole game drives? 210 00:12:52,641 --> 00:12:54,643 It's about a weapon bought to kill an elephant 211 00:12:54,730 --> 00:12:56,645 and then used to rob a bank. 212 00:12:56,732 --> 00:13:00,083 It's about entire local communities, poor local communities, 213 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:02,956 getting exploited by traffickers that arrive 214 00:13:03,043 --> 00:13:05,306 and offer five, six years salary. 215 00:13:05,393 --> 00:13:08,265 Of course, they kill an elephant for five years of salary 216 00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:10,659 in Africa; they will do it here in Los Angeles. 217 00:13:10,746 --> 00:13:14,532 - What we got here is about a four-foot tusk 218 00:13:14,619 --> 00:13:16,665 that came off a 20 year old elephant. 219 00:13:16,752 --> 00:13:18,493 This thing is worth about 400,000 dollars. 220 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:21,452 You can see how that drives the problem. 221 00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:25,543 - So when we're talking about the extinction 222 00:13:25,630 --> 00:13:28,633 of those species, I'm thinking of the cost in terms 223 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,768 of individual suffering, to highly intelligent 224 00:13:32,855 --> 00:13:35,075 and highly emotional beings. 225 00:13:35,162 --> 00:13:38,774 And to me this is absolutely terrible. 226 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:42,430 The sale of illegally killed ivory is being used 227 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:47,435 to actually enable terrorists groups to buy the weapons. 228 00:13:47,522 --> 00:13:50,786 [dramatic music] 229 00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:54,616 The terrible massacre in Nairobi was funded 230 00:13:54,703 --> 00:13:57,358 by the sale of ivory. 231 00:13:57,445 --> 00:14:01,275 So, the whole situation has escalated 232 00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:03,494 into something that's very frightening. 233 00:14:03,581 --> 00:14:06,280 It's not only impacting the elephants, 234 00:14:06,367 --> 00:14:11,328 but it's also impacting the security of nations. 235 00:14:12,721 --> 00:14:15,724 It's incredibly important that people wake up 236 00:14:15,811 --> 00:14:18,074 and understand exactly what's going on 237 00:14:18,161 --> 00:14:23,166 and exactly the price in suffering that's being caused. 238 00:14:23,775 --> 00:14:26,039 [gun firing] 239 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:30,130 [dramatic music] 240 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:31,261 - The terrorist attack 241 00:14:31,348 --> 00:14:33,437 on the shopping mall in Nairobi 242 00:14:33,524 --> 00:14:35,483 was a big eye opener for a lot of officials 243 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:38,878 in the defense department, in the intelligence community, 244 00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:41,228 in the law enforcement community, 245 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:43,099 that actually there was something to this link 246 00:14:43,186 --> 00:14:45,972 between wildlife trafficking and violence. 247 00:14:47,451 --> 00:14:50,454 Al Shabaab could be defeated, but I think the United States 248 00:14:50,541 --> 00:14:52,282 and its partners could be smarter 249 00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:55,677 about combating the message that these organizations give. 250 00:14:55,764 --> 00:14:58,332 They shouldn't be engaging in extortion, kidnapping, 251 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:01,683 all of that is haram, forbidden by Islam. 252 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:05,600 Nobody takes them on according to the precepts of Islam. 253 00:15:05,687 --> 00:15:07,907 These guys who call themselves Mullahs, 254 00:15:07,994 --> 00:15:12,041 who call themselves Holy Warriors, are actually just crooks. 255 00:15:12,128 --> 00:15:14,652 [tense music] 256 00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,008 - You got Boko Haram, you got ISIS over there, 257 00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:23,400 you got all these different people 258 00:15:23,487 --> 00:15:26,360 that are running child slavery, drugs, 259 00:15:26,447 --> 00:15:27,535 whatever they're doing. 260 00:15:27,622 --> 00:15:28,928 I mean you got child soldiers, 261 00:15:29,015 --> 00:15:30,190 they're just brainwashed to shoot anybody 262 00:15:30,277 --> 00:15:31,539 that gets in their path. 263 00:15:31,626 --> 00:15:33,193 The pictures I've seen is like, 264 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,543 I mean the elephants are, trust me, that's bad, 265 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:37,937 but when you see what they do to children it's like, uh. 266 00:15:40,765 --> 00:15:42,767 - In the Democratic Republic of Congo, 267 00:15:42,854 --> 00:15:45,292 5.4 million people were dead as a result 268 00:15:45,379 --> 00:15:48,164 of war related causes as of 2007. 269 00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:51,037 And the fighting has continued since then. 270 00:15:51,124 --> 00:15:54,040 Joseph Kony has been active as the leader 271 00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:57,391 of the Lord's Resistance Army for a very long time. 272 00:15:57,478 --> 00:16:00,089 Hundreds of thousands of children have been abducted, 273 00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:05,181 enslaved, forced to do hard labor, raped, 274 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,618 kept as sexual slaves. 275 00:16:07,705 --> 00:16:11,057 And we know that one of their most lucrative sources 276 00:16:11,144 --> 00:16:13,015 of income is trading ivory. 277 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:17,063 They trade pieces of ivory for things like, boots, 278 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:21,806 and bullets, boxes of bullets for a piece of ivory, 279 00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:25,985 carried by someone who's forced to be a porter, 280 00:16:26,072 --> 00:16:28,378 for hundreds of miles in some cases. 281 00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:30,946 Some of the products that come out 282 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:34,123 of this organized crime networks are found 283 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:36,343 in your cell phones and your laptop computers. 284 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:38,040 But this is a personal issue 285 00:16:38,127 --> 00:16:41,478 because we are buying products that contain minerals 286 00:16:41,565 --> 00:16:43,089 that come from this region. 287 00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:47,310 - Every one of us in the developed world 288 00:16:47,397 --> 00:16:51,097 has some kind of mobile, electronic device in our pocket. 289 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:55,101 And our mobile phones and laptops need tantalum. 290 00:16:55,188 --> 00:16:57,581 And one of the places on earth where you can find tantalum 291 00:16:57,668 --> 00:17:00,976 is underground in the Democratic Republic of Congo. 292 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:03,109 And you have militias fighting over bits of land 293 00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:06,068 that they could control the mining in and use the money 294 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:09,593 to buy guns, which has resulted in millions of people dying, 295 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,163 and the decline in apes, elephants, and hardwoods. 296 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:17,645 And in the illegal mines that are controlled by rebels, 297 00:17:17,732 --> 00:17:19,473 they feed the workers on bushmeat. 298 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,041 If you're buying tantalum from the DRC, 299 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:26,132 you are helping to fund armed militias who are raping women 300 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:29,309 and using child labor to dig the stuff out of the ground. 301 00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:34,227 - Animals belong in the parks. 302 00:17:34,314 --> 00:17:36,794 We don't have any connection between us and animals. 303 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:39,667 Animals are for tourists; they're not for us. 304 00:17:39,754 --> 00:17:41,147 Yes? 305 00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:42,626 It has been like that for a very long time. 306 00:17:42,713 --> 00:17:44,280 But things are changing; people have started 307 00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:47,066 to understand we need to protect these animals. 308 00:17:48,154 --> 00:17:49,416 The biggest problem we have 309 00:17:49,503 --> 00:17:54,508 is our local people don't understand. 310 00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:58,077 They have grown up with these animals in the past. 311 00:17:58,164 --> 00:18:01,123 They have lived with them, they used to kill buffaloes 312 00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:04,431 and rhinos and leave some to survive. 313 00:18:04,518 --> 00:18:09,523 But with the exit of the colonial, when they left, 314 00:18:10,959 --> 00:18:13,962 so they decided let's have these animals in the parks. 315 00:18:14,049 --> 00:18:16,051 The communities around those animals felt 316 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,271 it is not up to us, it's not our responsibility 317 00:18:18,358 --> 00:18:20,360 to take care of these animals, it's up to the government 318 00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:21,491 of the day to do it. 319 00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:23,232 So, even if they get killed, 320 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,016 even if you have poachers coming in to kill animals, 321 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,061 it's up to them. 322 00:18:26,148 --> 00:18:27,932 So there's this disconnect. 323 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:30,109 People really don't really understand, 324 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:33,895 why there's such big fuss about killing animals. 325 00:18:33,982 --> 00:18:36,898 It's not a big deal; it's not a very big deal. 326 00:18:36,985 --> 00:18:40,858 Three decades ago we had 24,000 rhinos, now we have 1041. 327 00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:47,387 That tells you that a child who is, my four year old son, 328 00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:50,694 will not have a chance of seeing these rhino in the next 15, 329 00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:53,219 20 years if something is not done. 330 00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:55,960 But most of the killings that are taking place, 331 00:18:56,047 --> 00:18:59,834 most of the rhinos that die, die inside the protected area. 332 00:19:01,923 --> 00:19:06,928 KWS knows who is killing rhinos in this country. 333 00:19:08,364 --> 00:19:10,279 They have admitted in the past that rhinos are dying 334 00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:13,195 and some of their own personnel are involved. 335 00:19:15,328 --> 00:19:18,940 What you can't get your head around is how poachers 336 00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:21,247 can manage to get into national parks. 337 00:19:21,334 --> 00:19:25,251 Last year for instance, for instance, January last year, 338 00:19:25,338 --> 00:19:29,516 we had a family of 12 elephants killed on the same spot. 339 00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:32,171 [somber music] 340 00:19:33,346 --> 00:19:36,566 Twelve elephants, among them a very small calf. 341 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:42,398 The poachers managed to walk away with 22 ivory tusks. 342 00:19:46,141 --> 00:19:48,448 You can't do it, 10 of you cannot do it. 343 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:55,759 22 ivory tusks, 10 armed poachers, 344 00:19:55,846 --> 00:19:57,370 with their guns on their backs. 345 00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:01,548 You have aerial surveillance; you have ground boots, 346 00:20:02,723 --> 00:20:04,377 boots on the ground from KWS rangers, 347 00:20:04,464 --> 00:20:06,988 and reinforcements from other agencies. 348 00:20:07,075 --> 00:20:08,990 And these people get away? 349 00:20:09,077 --> 00:20:12,167 Something is very wrong, something extremely wrong 350 00:20:12,254 --> 00:20:14,082 in this country, yes. 351 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:22,046 [fire crackling] 352 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:28,705 - It's about tax evasion, it's about funds to terrorism 353 00:20:28,792 --> 00:20:31,882 and militias, it's about money laundering. 354 00:20:31,969 --> 00:20:34,450 So, the human toll is big. 355 00:20:34,537 --> 00:20:38,541 So, the responsibility of China is also that. 356 00:20:40,804 --> 00:20:45,679 We should start talking to the Chinese also about that. 357 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:50,771 Because behind an ivory trinket bought in China, 358 00:20:51,641 --> 00:20:53,121 there is someone, not something, 359 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:55,950 someone on the ground, dead. 360 00:20:56,907 --> 00:20:59,736 [dramatic music] 361 00:20:59,823 --> 00:21:01,564 You have basically two fronts, 362 00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:04,611 you have the African front and the Chinese front, okay? 363 00:21:04,698 --> 00:21:07,701 The African front is complicated, it's complex. 364 00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:11,008 You have a lot of players, all trafficking with ivory, 365 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:13,228 with rhino horn, with other wildlife products. 366 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:15,883 The second front is China. 367 00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:19,278 Right now, the single most important factor 368 00:21:19,365 --> 00:21:23,978 behind elephant poaching is the legal ivory market in China. 369 00:21:24,065 --> 00:21:26,285 It's very simple to understand; it's not rocket science, 370 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:28,765 it's not happening on the moon, it's happening in China. 371 00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:33,204 So, the legal ivory market in China is the reason 372 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:36,120 why you have a huge illegal trade 373 00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,036 and illegal underground market in China. 374 00:21:39,123 --> 00:21:41,909 It's acting like a giant vacuum cleaner, 375 00:21:41,996 --> 00:21:45,521 sucking up tons and tons of ivory from all over Africa. 376 00:21:45,608 --> 00:21:47,088 That's very easy to understand. 377 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,178 And the solution also is very easy to understand. 378 00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:52,746 They have to simply phase out 379 00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:55,966 the legal ivory market, that's it. 380 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,362 - In China, Vietnam some of these rich guys 381 00:22:00,449 --> 00:22:02,756 grind this stuff up and snort it and make tea out of it. 382 00:22:02,843 --> 00:22:04,105 I don't know what they do, but they seem 383 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:05,454 to think it makes their dick hard. 384 00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:06,673 You know what I mean? 385 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,414 That's what they make Viagra for. 386 00:22:08,501 --> 00:22:10,198 I mean, come on. 387 00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,939 You need to kill a fucking rhino to get your dick hard? 388 00:22:12,026 --> 00:22:13,984 You got a bigger problem than you think. 389 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:24,343 - When we look at the commercial exploitation of wildlife, 390 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:27,781 we always look at the whole chain, 391 00:22:27,868 --> 00:22:30,523 from poaching to trafficking to demand. 392 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:35,397 We focus on all three major links on that trade chain. 393 00:22:35,484 --> 00:22:39,793 This legal market is providing cover for illegal trade 394 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,709 and it also confuse the consumers 395 00:22:42,796 --> 00:22:46,756 and makes them feel it's okay to buy ivory. 396 00:22:46,843 --> 00:22:50,151 - [Narrator] In 2007 a CITES one-off ivory sale 397 00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:52,414 created an insatiable Asian demand 398 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:55,156 which drove this global poaching epidemic. 399 00:22:56,723 --> 00:22:59,334 - We found that 70% of the Chinese 400 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:03,382 do not know ivory comes from dead elephants. 401 00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:08,169 In Chinese, elephant tusk is called elephant teeth. 402 00:23:08,256 --> 00:23:10,780 And so when it's, teeth people thought 403 00:23:10,867 --> 00:23:13,522 that you know a person's teeth can fall off 404 00:23:13,609 --> 00:23:15,568 and a person doesn't have to die. 405 00:23:20,877 --> 00:23:23,489 - You know, I go to China every year. 406 00:23:23,576 --> 00:23:25,969 I have been for many, many years. 407 00:23:26,056 --> 00:23:29,625 And I didn't realize that so many of the Chinese 408 00:23:29,712 --> 00:23:32,062 believe that elephants shed their tusks 409 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:34,587 just like stags shed their antlers. 410 00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:37,677 The Chinese people are beginning 411 00:23:37,764 --> 00:23:41,855 to wake up to the seriousness of the situation. 412 00:23:41,942 --> 00:23:45,902 It's important that people understand that the United States 413 00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:48,644 has been the second largest importer 414 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,255 of illegal ivory after China. 415 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:53,562 - It's not enough that we're pointing fingers 416 00:23:53,649 --> 00:23:55,172 at the Chinese. 417 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:56,826 We should look at ourselves, and what we've done 418 00:23:56,913 --> 00:24:00,874 to Africa and what we owe the African continent 419 00:24:00,961 --> 00:24:03,180 for what we've taken from them. 420 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:04,965 It's something that we as Americans 421 00:24:05,052 --> 00:24:07,446 have to take responsibility for, too. 422 00:24:07,533 --> 00:24:11,406 It's not just Chinese who are suddenly buying all 423 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:12,973 of the ivory. 424 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,192 We have a long history of doing it ourselves, 425 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,238 starting in the 1800s 426 00:24:17,325 --> 00:24:20,067 when we imported tusks for what purpose? 427 00:24:20,154 --> 00:24:23,549 We had elephants killed in order to make billiard balls, 428 00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:27,901 the ivory keys for pianos, for knick-knacks. 429 00:24:27,988 --> 00:24:32,166 Millions of elephants died for our purposes. 430 00:24:33,646 --> 00:24:35,778 - [Narrator] Every elephant tusk represents the death 431 00:24:35,865 --> 00:24:38,912 or enslavement of five Africans. 432 00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:41,262 It is simply incredible that, because ivory 433 00:24:41,349 --> 00:24:44,874 is required, the rich heart of Africa should be laid waste. 434 00:24:44,961 --> 00:24:47,355 That populations, tribes and nations 435 00:24:47,442 --> 00:24:49,052 should be utterly destroyed. 436 00:24:49,139 --> 00:24:51,838 Whom after all does this bloody seizure enrich? 437 00:24:53,187 --> 00:24:54,710 - When firearms came to Africa, 438 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:57,104 that's when elephant numbers started to plummet. 439 00:24:57,191 --> 00:24:58,584 It was thought that then there 440 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,107 were probably 10 million elephants in Africa, 441 00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:01,978 now there are fewer than half a million. 442 00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:06,635 So, we've lost 95% of the workforce of the forest, 443 00:25:06,722 --> 00:25:09,116 that recycles nutrients, disperses seeds 444 00:25:09,203 --> 00:25:11,466 and creates the forests of tomorrow. 445 00:25:13,337 --> 00:25:14,687 - We're running out of time. 446 00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:17,646 There was room for experimentation. 447 00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:21,041 There is no more margin for error. 448 00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:23,130 Things are so desperate in so many places, 449 00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:26,960 that either we fix the problem in the coming days, 450 00:25:27,047 --> 00:25:31,486 weeks and months, and not even years, or it very likely, 451 00:25:31,573 --> 00:25:34,097 in many places in Africa will be too late. 452 00:25:36,186 --> 00:25:38,928 [dramatic music] 453 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:51,941 - I think a lot of non-profits 454 00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:55,249 overwhelm their audience with doom and gloom. 455 00:25:55,336 --> 00:25:59,035 And so I think collectively we need to find a better way 456 00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:01,472 to disseminate this information. 457 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,823 And again get people inspired and empowered. 458 00:26:03,910 --> 00:26:05,868 That's why I think you still have 459 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:07,609 to look for those gems of hope. 460 00:26:07,696 --> 00:26:09,916 And that's one of the reasons why, right now I'm trying 461 00:26:10,003 --> 00:26:12,919 to focus more on the survivors of these poaching. 462 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:16,487 So, what a lot of people don't recognize and realize 463 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:20,013 is that not all poached animals die. 464 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,058 So, we actually have a lot of survivors 465 00:26:22,145 --> 00:26:24,147 on the continent of Africa. 466 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:26,062 Orphaned rhinos, orphaned elephants, 467 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:28,064 there's a whole new generation of animals 468 00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:30,371 being raised that have gone through traumas. 469 00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:34,593 [peaceful music] 470 00:26:41,164 --> 00:26:43,384 - So, the one in front is Mashariki, 471 00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:48,476 followed by Lakipi, Valdo, Moisha, Emilio, Pundani & Aruba. 472 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:56,397 Well, all these babies have become orphans 473 00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:58,181 due to different reasons. 474 00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:01,402 Some of them, their mothers have been killed by poachers, 475 00:27:01,489 --> 00:27:03,839 due to increase in the trade on ivory, 476 00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:06,625 which is a real, real problem at the moment. 477 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,064 'Cause normally, they're not found alone, 478 00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:12,848 they should be with their families. 479 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:18,680 And some of them some of them have become orphans 480 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:19,942 from human wildlife conflict, 481 00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:21,422 which means they've been separated 482 00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:23,250 from their mothers by human beings. 483 00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:31,737 - There is an unofficial high mortality rate 484 00:27:31,824 --> 00:27:34,478 among orphans in Africa, elephant orphans. 485 00:27:34,565 --> 00:27:37,046 They're using these homemade recipes 486 00:27:37,133 --> 00:27:40,397 that no one has really properly researched or documented. 487 00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:42,356 But I think there's more to the equation. 488 00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,793 I think it may be sort of a combination 489 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,885 of medical, emotional needs, social needs. 490 00:27:50,973 --> 00:27:53,628 When you have a survivor of a poaching, 491 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:55,761 whether it's an orphan who's witnessed his 492 00:27:55,848 --> 00:27:58,938 or her mother killed or an attempted poaching. 493 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,941 Sometimes an animal will have a traumatic wound 494 00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:02,942 that they survive. 495 00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:09,949 What we see is that they have these emotional, 496 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:11,298 behavioral profiles similar 497 00:28:11,385 --> 00:28:13,474 to post-traumatic stress disorder. 498 00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:16,869 And oftentimes if we don't immediately intervene 499 00:28:16,956 --> 00:28:19,959 and sort of act as their mother figure, 500 00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,091 they give up the will to live. 501 00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:26,487 So, you don't always lose orphans due to a medical issue, 502 00:28:26,574 --> 00:28:29,229 oftentimes it can just be an emotional issue. 503 00:28:31,971 --> 00:28:33,189 - There's been an increase in terms 504 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:35,017 of the number of orphans 505 00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:37,628 that are coming to us, which means poaching is increasing, 506 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,500 but you know poaching is not the only reason 507 00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:40,544 that is causing them to be orphans, 508 00:28:40,631 --> 00:28:42,372 but it is the main reason. 509 00:28:42,459 --> 00:28:44,853 Others are orphans from human-wildlife conflict, 510 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:48,335 they have been separated from the families by human beings, 511 00:28:48,422 --> 00:28:50,250 due to increase in the population of man, 512 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,513 compared to the space or size of land. 513 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,168 And that causes the fights every now and then. 514 00:28:57,431 --> 00:28:58,954 [speaking in Swahili] 515 00:28:59,041 --> 00:29:00,695 - The poachers want the big elephants 516 00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:02,349 with the tusks. 517 00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,438 Usually those are the eldest animals, the females, 518 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:08,529 the matriarchs, the grandmothers, who know where to go 519 00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:11,010 and what to do and how to behave. 520 00:29:11,097 --> 00:29:13,099 So, with them gone, when they're taken out 521 00:29:13,186 --> 00:29:15,449 of the population, what do you have left? 522 00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:16,885 You have teenagers. 523 00:29:16,972 --> 00:29:19,670 You have, just imagine if in your town, 524 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:22,891 if all the adults suddenly vanished and all you had left 525 00:29:22,978 --> 00:29:25,894 were the teenagers of the high school or the junior high. 526 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,201 How well do you think society would operate? 527 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,864 - You know, saving the world is not a part time job 528 00:29:38,951 --> 00:29:40,343 and it is not without risk. 529 00:29:42,084 --> 00:29:43,346 We've been seeing things going in the wrong direction 530 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,000 in most places for many years. 531 00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,394 And it's just not an issue that you can quantify 532 00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:49,135 with wildlife surveys. 533 00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:53,487 What we've been seeing is the collapse of the way of life 534 00:29:53,574 --> 00:29:56,316 that has served Africa for millennia, 535 00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:59,319 the relationship between people and the natural resources. 536 00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:02,888 - You've got to save every one 537 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,367 of these animals in the rainforest. 538 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,630 You got to save the habitat. What we've seen 539 00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,545 in a lot of these places that saving the habitat itself 540 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:12,680 is not enough because poaching is so strong in some places 541 00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,248 that it just cleans out whatever species 542 00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:17,250 are out there in the forest. 543 00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:19,905 [elephants trumpet] 544 00:30:19,992 --> 00:30:21,776 And the elephants, of course, 545 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:25,519 are a critical element in these rainforests. 546 00:30:25,606 --> 00:30:28,304 Elephants are the bellwether of Africa. 547 00:30:28,391 --> 00:30:31,133 As elephants go, so will everything else go. 548 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,048 They're so big, they're so dominant, 549 00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:39,098 they're now so valuable, that the best way to get a read 550 00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,622 on the natural state of an area, that should have elephants, 551 00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:43,232 is to go in and see if they're there are not, 552 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,843 usually it's not now. 553 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,977 If they like to breathe, 554 00:30:49,064 --> 00:30:50,370 it's probably a good thing to save the forest, isn't it? 555 00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:51,937 But maybe they don't think about that. 556 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,461 They want a stable climate you have to look 557 00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:56,593 at the integrity and the function, 558 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,552 it's called ecosystem services. 559 00:31:00,249 --> 00:31:02,208 - [Jane] The elephants open up the forests 560 00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,471 so that new life can grow, 561 00:31:04,558 --> 00:31:06,908 they transport seeds in their dung. 562 00:31:06,995 --> 00:31:09,737 Chimpanzees do exactly the same; they take seeds 563 00:31:09,824 --> 00:31:11,870 and spread them around in the forest. 564 00:31:13,001 --> 00:31:15,743 [peaceful music] 565 00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:22,706 [elephants trumpeting] 566 00:31:24,143 --> 00:31:26,972 [leaves rustling] 567 00:31:28,103 --> 00:31:32,194 - Elephants disperse more seeds individually, 568 00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:35,545 of more species of trees and other plants, 569 00:31:35,632 --> 00:31:39,288 further than any other animal. 570 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,855 And they do that wherever they live. 571 00:31:40,942 --> 00:31:44,293 So, 50 countries, 37 in Africa, 572 00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:48,863 13 in Asia, have natural elephant populations. 573 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:50,821 [mysterious music] 574 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:54,738 - [Mike] Elephants in particular are unique in the sense 575 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:58,525 that their digestive process is so intense 576 00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,875 there are seeds from certain trees 577 00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,356 that will not germinate unless they've passed 578 00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:04,748 through an elephant's gut. 579 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:10,798 So, the reason that people kill trees in Africa 580 00:32:10,885 --> 00:32:12,887 is because they want the carbon that's stored 581 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,715 in the tree as a fuel. 582 00:32:14,802 --> 00:32:17,022 They want to use it for charcoal. 583 00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:18,501 [smoke hissing] 584 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:21,461 The forest is an extremely valuable asset 585 00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:24,029 that the government has to try and keep its hands off. 586 00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:26,553 If they don't and that forest disappears, 587 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,295 we will never keep climate to two degrees. 588 00:32:31,819 --> 00:32:33,081 If you value the forest, 589 00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:35,040 protect the gardeners of the forest. 590 00:32:35,127 --> 00:32:36,998 They are not ornaments, they are not things 591 00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:39,131 to go and see on holiday. 592 00:32:39,218 --> 00:32:43,048 Every gorilla, every elephant, every howler monkey 593 00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:46,051 in Latin America, or tapir, are working for us, 594 00:32:46,138 --> 00:32:48,662 dispersing seeds for the trees of tomorrow. 595 00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,664 And if we want those carbon stores 596 00:32:50,751 --> 00:32:54,929 and those rainwater-generating forests to continue 597 00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,757 into the next century, we have to make sure 598 00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:59,847 that the seeds are being sown today to do that job. 599 00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:03,546 People think there's a forest 600 00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:05,418 and then you put some animals in, no. 601 00:33:05,505 --> 00:33:08,160 The animals and the trees and the bacteria 602 00:33:08,247 --> 00:33:10,640 are all part of that forest ecosystem. 603 00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:12,077 And one of the things that gorillas 604 00:33:12,164 --> 00:33:15,123 do spectacularly well is produce manure. 605 00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:18,648 A gorilla will eat and produce something like, 606 00:33:18,735 --> 00:33:22,000 between 10 and 20 kilos of dung every day. 607 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:23,349 That's about one hundred kilos a week. 608 00:33:23,436 --> 00:33:26,395 In 10 weeks that's a ton of manure 609 00:33:26,482 --> 00:33:27,788 being spread around the forest. 610 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:30,095 And in that manure are seeds. 611 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:32,140 Elephants are even more important 612 00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:33,620 as gardeners of the forest. 613 00:33:33,707 --> 00:33:35,491 If gorillas are the gardeners of the forest, 614 00:33:35,578 --> 00:33:37,841 elephants are the mega-gardeners, because they're so big. 615 00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:41,845 But we're so taken aback by how powerful 616 00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:44,631 they are, we think they're indestructible. 617 00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:47,460 [leaves rustling] 618 00:33:47,547 --> 00:33:50,115 As human development has grown and elephant habitat 619 00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:53,509 has shrunk, the elephants are constantly coming up 620 00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:56,295 against people who are unfriendly, who are chasing them out 621 00:33:56,382 --> 00:33:57,905 of their crops, who are trying 622 00:33:57,992 --> 00:34:01,126 to defend their livelihood from the elephants. 623 00:34:01,213 --> 00:34:03,041 And the elephants are seen as an enemy. 624 00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:04,825 And that the latest manifestation of this, 625 00:34:04,912 --> 00:34:08,089 that I've experienced is charcoal. 626 00:34:08,176 --> 00:34:09,743 Because for most families in Africa 627 00:34:09,830 --> 00:34:11,614 they don't have electricity, they don't have gas. 628 00:34:11,701 --> 00:34:15,009 If they got to cook, they need either wood or charcoal. 629 00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:16,924 In many cities, the charcoal trade 630 00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:19,970 is a multi-million dollar business, which means anyone 631 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:23,452 who can pay people a pittance to go and cut down trees, 632 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:26,890 or even just branches of trees, build a charcoal kiln 633 00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:28,544 and bring out a few bags of charcoal, 634 00:34:28,631 --> 00:34:30,155 they'll be paid a few dollars. And that charcoal 635 00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:32,070 is worth a lot of money in the city. 636 00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:36,770 The first day we went out in the forest reserve, 637 00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:39,338 we saw three charcoal operations. 638 00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:41,209 The elephants were right next to the charcoal 639 00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:43,646 and were obviously agitated. 640 00:34:43,733 --> 00:34:45,822 The matriarch clearly felt 641 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:47,650 that we were posing a threat to them. 642 00:34:47,737 --> 00:34:49,261 She started running towards us. 643 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:50,697 I didn't want to be hit from behind, 644 00:34:50,784 --> 00:34:52,525 so I turned around and I was rumbling, 645 00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:53,961 sort of a [imitates rumbling], 646 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,487 as we do when we approach the elephants. 647 00:34:58,574 --> 00:35:01,186 She was really moving. [laughs] 648 00:35:02,839 --> 00:35:05,407 I was still running backwards, still trying to placate her 649 00:35:05,494 --> 00:35:09,194 when she hit me and I put my hands up to her face. 650 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:14,286 And when I turned to face her and then the camera 651 00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:17,027 hit the elephant's face against my hand. 652 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:18,638 But that turned the camera off. 653 00:35:19,813 --> 00:35:21,510 And it left me on my hands and knees 654 00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:24,078 when I completed the backward roll, under the elephant. 655 00:35:24,165 --> 00:35:26,080 And she started playing football with me. 656 00:35:26,167 --> 00:35:28,735 After five seconds, one of the kicks 657 00:35:28,822 --> 00:35:31,303 happened to knock the camera and turn it on again. 658 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,309 [camera clicking] 659 00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:40,747 [elephant trumpets] 660 00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:41,878 A second later, you hear 661 00:35:41,965 --> 00:35:44,620 [gun firing] 662 00:35:44,707 --> 00:35:48,233 which is the rangers who had fired a shot, in the air 663 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,625 and the elephant fled. 664 00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:52,541 She came to chase the humans away, 665 00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:54,587 who were hassling her family. 666 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,459 Now in human society, we give people like that medals. 667 00:35:59,331 --> 00:36:02,334 [elephant rumbling] 668 00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:20,003 - The growth in the human population and its footprint, 669 00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:23,268 is a major threat, probably the single biggest threat, 670 00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:26,184 to wildlife persisting into the long term. 671 00:36:26,271 --> 00:36:29,274 Simply because it doesn't have to take all the land away 672 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,059 from wildlife, it fragments it. 673 00:36:32,146 --> 00:36:35,105 We take the best bits, we leave the worst bits for wildlife. 674 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,239 Now, a population that used to live in a particular area 675 00:36:38,326 --> 00:36:39,980 is two populations separated 676 00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:41,851 by human settlements in the middle. 677 00:36:41,938 --> 00:36:45,681 So, they can't literally get in contact with each other. 678 00:36:45,768 --> 00:36:48,815 So one of the biggest challenges out there is the fact 679 00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:51,296 that the human population, currently about seven 680 00:36:51,383 --> 00:36:53,907 and a bit billion people on this planet, is going to rise 681 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:57,302 to eleven billion people by the end of this century. 682 00:36:57,389 --> 00:37:00,218 And the question then is, is there room for wildlife? 683 00:37:02,394 --> 00:37:06,441 - There is an actual movement in conservation to focus 684 00:37:06,528 --> 00:37:10,315 on population reduction in humans as an indirect way 685 00:37:10,402 --> 00:37:13,100 to improve wildlife conservation. 686 00:37:13,187 --> 00:37:15,668 So, one approach has been for conservationists 687 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:20,760 to teach population control and offer reproductive education 688 00:37:21,848 --> 00:37:23,676 to the women who live in the villages. 689 00:37:23,763 --> 00:37:27,288 So, they've seen the childbirth, you know, 690 00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:30,030 the growth has flat-lined in those villages. 691 00:37:36,689 --> 00:37:39,692 - [Narrator] The desert elephants of Namibia's Kunene Region 692 00:37:39,779 --> 00:37:42,738 are one of only two populations of desert elephants 693 00:37:42,825 --> 00:37:46,307 in the world, the other is in Mali, North Africa, 694 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:49,963 approximately 150 individuals remain here. 695 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:52,357 - Why am I pessimistic? 696 00:37:52,444 --> 00:37:54,924 Just because of the numbers of humans on earth. 697 00:37:58,798 --> 00:38:00,539 And elephants are disappearing 698 00:38:00,626 --> 00:38:05,239 and I can't just wave a magic wand or jump 699 00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:07,633 to action and save them. 700 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,026 That's part of being wildlife biologists 701 00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:15,118 is you see a lot of death and you get to see the rare birth 702 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:19,993 that balances out all the, all the death. 703 00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,518 It was a life changing experience for me. 704 00:38:23,605 --> 00:38:25,738 I knew I wanted to work with elephants. 705 00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:28,306 We thought originally we'd go back to Zimbabwe 706 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,569 and work there, but then Zimbabwe 707 00:38:30,656 --> 00:38:33,963 went extremely downhill, very fast. 708 00:38:34,877 --> 00:38:36,531 - Yeah. 709 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:37,967 - In Zimbabwe, you know when our friends would go out 710 00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:41,275 on an anti-poaching patrol, suddenly this 711 00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,060 was a military operation in the national park, 712 00:38:44,147 --> 00:38:45,758 where they would hand out the weapons 713 00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:48,108 and their lives were out there on the line. 714 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:51,894 And so it takes that level of commitment, of individuals 715 00:38:51,981 --> 00:38:56,986 and a commitment of society, in order to turn it around. 716 00:38:58,510 --> 00:39:01,817 They're a lot of people that do value the elephants there. 717 00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:04,777 And then there are a number of people, like in any society, 718 00:39:04,864 --> 00:39:07,562 they won't appreciate what they have or had, 719 00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:08,737 until it's gone. 720 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:11,784 - The bigger problem we're dealing with 721 00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:16,223 with desert elephants is not so much ivory poaching, 722 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:21,315 it's attitudes of the people who live with elephants, 723 00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:25,188 who pay the price, through destroyed crops 724 00:39:25,275 --> 00:39:29,149 or, you know, untimely death of relatives 725 00:39:29,236 --> 00:39:32,413 or friends from elephants or lions, whatever it is. 726 00:39:33,632 --> 00:39:36,461 [somber music] 727 00:39:36,548 --> 00:39:39,551 So, we need people to go to Namibia, 728 00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:42,423 spend their tourist dollars, pay the local people 729 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:45,948 to tell them about their lifestyle, 730 00:39:46,035 --> 00:39:48,734 make the elephants worthwhile to those people, 731 00:39:48,821 --> 00:39:51,345 by sharing the wealth that we have here, 732 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:54,696 with those people there and then elephants will be valued. 733 00:39:56,394 --> 00:40:01,181 In 2012, we went to Africa and we got to a village 734 00:40:01,268 --> 00:40:03,444 that we know very well. 735 00:40:03,531 --> 00:40:07,492 Just two days after, one of our elephants, 736 00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:10,059 one of our known elephants, had been killed 737 00:40:10,146 --> 00:40:13,367 by the authorities for being a problem animal. 738 00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:15,413 And we didn't know which elephant it was, 739 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,459 but we arrived there and all that was left 740 00:40:18,546 --> 00:40:20,983 of his carcass was an ear. 741 00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:24,596 I looked at my ID book of all the elephants and who's who, 742 00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:27,294 based on their ear patterns and I said 743 00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:31,907 "Oh, this is M7, Mr. Sneaky". 744 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:38,044 The local guy who was showing us the carcass said, 745 00:40:38,131 --> 00:40:41,264 "Well, the meat was given to the local people to eat," 746 00:40:41,351 --> 00:40:42,614 and he said, 747 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:44,267 "Don't you like elephant meat?" 748 00:40:45,486 --> 00:40:47,706 And I said, "I would never eat an elephant, 749 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,099 "it would be like eating a family member." 750 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,189 And he thought that was the strangest thing. 751 00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:58,368 We were feeling extremely discouraged 752 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,807 and decided we're done. 753 00:41:01,894 --> 00:41:04,549 Let's just go and say goodbye to the elephants 754 00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:05,506 and we're done. 755 00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:12,426 The next day we came upon our favorite group of elephants, 756 00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:17,475 the tuskless matriarch, and the teenage daughter, 757 00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:22,915 whose name is Dorothy, was showing some breasts. 758 00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,701 Dorothy starts to act very strangely 759 00:41:26,788 --> 00:41:31,010 and all of a sudden out comes this birth sac 760 00:41:31,097 --> 00:41:35,014 and poosh on the ground, a baby elephant is born. 761 00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:37,756 [elephant rumbles] 762 00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:41,237 [gentle, peaceful music] 763 00:42:17,273 --> 00:42:20,102 [elephant rumbles] 764 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:45,171 We both said, "This is it". 765 00:42:45,258 --> 00:42:47,956 "How can we give up at this point?" 766 00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:50,089 - We're all in again, all in. 767 00:42:50,176 --> 00:42:52,744 [laughing] 768 00:42:52,831 --> 00:42:54,484 We're going for it, laying it out 769 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,358 on the line in order to turn the tide on extinction. 770 00:42:59,751 --> 00:43:02,275 [upbeat music] 771 00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:06,584 - [Narrator] Humans and wildlife 772 00:43:06,671 --> 00:43:08,760 compete for natural resources. 773 00:43:10,196 --> 00:43:13,199 Male elephants more often raid crops than do females 774 00:43:13,286 --> 00:43:16,681 in order to gain size and reproductive advantage. 775 00:43:16,768 --> 00:43:20,815 These crop raiders are then considered problem elephants. 776 00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:27,039 - In case of human wildlife conflict, we always follow up. 777 00:43:27,126 --> 00:43:28,954 If an elephant comes into a farm and you kill it, 778 00:43:29,041 --> 00:43:30,738 you can't be charged. 779 00:43:30,825 --> 00:43:34,350 It's the only income that farmer might have for that year. 780 00:43:34,437 --> 00:43:35,961 He's relying on it to feed his family. 781 00:43:36,048 --> 00:43:39,399 He's relying on it to educate his kids, whatever. 782 00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:41,227 So, in two minutes an elephant will go in there 783 00:43:41,314 --> 00:43:43,490 and destroy a whole year's worth of crops. 784 00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:47,581 So, you can understand why you get out of bed 785 00:43:47,668 --> 00:43:49,757 in the middle of the night and throw a spear at an elephant. 786 00:43:49,844 --> 00:43:53,108 So, these are spears that we've confiscated off poachers. 787 00:43:54,936 --> 00:43:59,593 Again, they poison the blade so when it goes in, 788 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,509 it's not only the spear that does the damage, 789 00:44:02,596 --> 00:44:04,772 it's the poison that finishes it off. 790 00:44:04,859 --> 00:44:07,601 The worst is when you dig one out of a dead elephant. 791 00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:09,472 Sometimes it kills it quite quickly. 792 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,171 I say quickly, 10, 15 minutes. 793 00:44:12,258 --> 00:44:16,392 Sometimes it takes days, sometimes months. 794 00:44:16,479 --> 00:44:17,655 Poisoning spears is a new thing. 795 00:44:17,742 --> 00:44:19,265 It never used to happen before. 796 00:44:19,352 --> 00:44:21,093 It's a new technique. 797 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:23,617 But also they're using pesticides now. 798 00:44:23,704 --> 00:44:25,445 They've ramped it up. 799 00:44:25,532 --> 00:44:27,273 There's pesticides available on the market 800 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,015 and you can just go buy that from the veterinary shop, 801 00:44:30,102 --> 00:44:32,147 soak your arrow or your spear in it, 802 00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:34,672 and it's more lethal than the traditional poison. 803 00:44:37,283 --> 00:44:40,634 [elephant screeching] 804 00:44:40,721 --> 00:44:43,028 - Human-elephant conflict is a huge problem 805 00:44:43,115 --> 00:44:46,945 in Laikipia County and the levels of human-elephant conflict 806 00:44:47,032 --> 00:44:49,469 are probably amongst the worst in the whole of East Africa. 807 00:44:49,556 --> 00:44:51,819 We got a call from one of our scouts in the field, 808 00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:54,648 who gave us some information about elephants 809 00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:57,477 being stuck in a dam. 810 00:44:57,564 --> 00:44:59,479 You had seven bull elephants who had crop 811 00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:00,828 raided the night before. 812 00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:05,790 And once we closer, it became clear these elephants 813 00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:08,140 weren't stuck at all, but that the community 814 00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:09,924 was actually holding them hostage. 815 00:45:11,143 --> 00:45:12,666 I mean you had 400 people screaming 816 00:45:12,753 --> 00:45:14,320 and yelling in all directions and the elephants 817 00:45:14,407 --> 00:45:16,670 didn't know which way to go. 818 00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:19,064 [screaming] 819 00:45:21,370 --> 00:45:23,024 [helicopter whirring] 820 00:45:23,111 --> 00:45:25,766 And the arrival of this helicopter sent the population 821 00:45:25,853 --> 00:45:29,204 into a frenzy because they wanted to harvest the meat, 822 00:45:29,291 --> 00:45:31,206 so at least they would have something. 823 00:45:32,642 --> 00:45:33,905 People would prevent them from leaving, you know, 824 00:45:33,992 --> 00:45:35,428 by shouting or by throwing stones 825 00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:37,822 and by driving fire towards them. 826 00:45:37,909 --> 00:45:41,086 This elephant made a desperate attempt to escape. 827 00:45:43,436 --> 00:45:45,264 And it charged into the shallows. 828 00:45:45,351 --> 00:45:49,094 Now you had an elephant on the run amongst people. 829 00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,272 This act of bravery, I suppose, 830 00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:55,056 encouraged the other elephants 831 00:45:55,143 --> 00:45:58,364 so they managed to get out as well, once the helicopter 832 00:45:58,451 --> 00:46:00,627 pushed the people and cleared the way for them. 833 00:46:02,629 --> 00:46:04,631 It's really tough for conservationists because people 834 00:46:04,718 --> 00:46:06,285 look at us and say, 835 00:46:06,372 --> 00:46:07,590 "Ah, you know we only care about the elephants. 836 00:46:07,677 --> 00:46:08,461 "We don't care about the people." 837 00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:09,984 This is not true, 838 00:46:10,071 --> 00:46:12,770 but these are the perceptions that go around. 839 00:46:13,858 --> 00:46:15,555 [splashing] 840 00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:16,948 - You can't ignore that human need 841 00:46:17,035 --> 00:46:18,776 in solving the conservation problems. 842 00:46:19,994 --> 00:46:22,388 This generation is the generation that's now 843 00:46:22,475 --> 00:46:24,607 in conflict for the first time 844 00:46:24,694 --> 00:46:27,088 in many, many, many generations. 845 00:46:29,743 --> 00:46:31,049 [splashing] 846 00:46:31,136 --> 00:46:32,572 It's not a cultural norm for them to be 847 00:46:32,659 --> 00:46:34,443 in conflict with wildlife. 848 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:37,664 They didn't conquer the wilderness the way the pioneers 849 00:46:37,751 --> 00:46:39,361 did in North America perhaps, 850 00:46:39,448 --> 00:46:40,928 where there were dangerous animals that were killed 851 00:46:41,015 --> 00:46:43,452 to make the land safe for families. 852 00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:46,238 If you can work with them to see the wildlife 853 00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:49,328 and the wilderness as an asset, there is still time. 854 00:46:49,415 --> 00:46:51,678 This challenge that wildlife faces now 855 00:46:51,765 --> 00:46:53,114 is not about changing wildlife. 856 00:46:53,201 --> 00:46:55,247 The group that has to change is the humans. 857 00:46:55,334 --> 00:46:58,250 [crowd chattering] 858 00:47:01,383 --> 00:47:02,776 - [Narrator] Human-elephant conflict 859 00:47:02,863 --> 00:47:05,039 threatens elephant survival. 860 00:47:05,126 --> 00:47:08,042 Translocating, or moving, 'problem' elephants 861 00:47:08,129 --> 00:47:10,392 is one conservation strategy. 862 00:47:10,479 --> 00:47:14,527 But translocation intensifies human-elephant conflict 863 00:47:14,614 --> 00:47:16,181 and increases elephant deaths. 864 00:47:17,922 --> 00:47:21,142 [elephant crying]: 865 00:47:21,229 --> 00:47:24,754 - Another example of how we know elephants behave 866 00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:26,408 when they don't have their elders around 867 00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:29,194 is from young elephants that have been translocated. 868 00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:31,936 So, they move in elephants that perhaps 869 00:47:32,023 --> 00:47:34,677 have seen their family members culled, 870 00:47:34,764 --> 00:47:39,073 all of the family members killed in another park 871 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,422 in South Africa, where they felt 872 00:47:40,509 --> 00:47:42,163 there were too many elephants. 873 00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:44,252 So, they kill all the adults, they take the youngsters 874 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:46,776 and move them out to another park. 875 00:47:47,777 --> 00:47:50,868 [elephants screaming] 876 00:48:00,703 --> 00:48:02,357 - My name is Barbara Wiseman, 877 00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:03,837 and I'm the international president 878 00:48:03,924 --> 00:48:06,361 of the Lawrence Anthony Earth organization. 879 00:48:06,448 --> 00:48:08,668 Lawrence had told me there was a troublesome herd, 880 00:48:08,755 --> 00:48:11,976 they hated people, because people had killed most 881 00:48:12,063 --> 00:48:13,803 of the herd off. 882 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,762 - If I didn't take them they were all going to get put down. 883 00:48:15,849 --> 00:48:18,156 So, I said, "Sure, absolutely, we'll take them". 884 00:48:18,243 --> 00:48:19,505 - [Barbara] The matriarch knew how 885 00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:21,507 to push over an electric fence 886 00:48:21,594 --> 00:48:24,075 and short it out and escape with her herd. 887 00:48:25,598 --> 00:48:29,123 They had game rangers, the game rangers all had guns, 888 00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:31,256 some of them were intending to kill them. 889 00:48:32,561 --> 00:48:34,999 Finally, the helicopter pilot got them back. 890 00:48:35,086 --> 00:48:36,435 [helicopter whirring] 891 00:48:36,522 --> 00:48:37,915 - [Lawrence] The authorities just said, 892 00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:39,394 "Don't have anything to do 893 00:48:39,481 --> 00:48:41,048 "with the elephant when they're in the boma, 894 00:48:41,135 --> 00:48:42,528 "just leave them." 895 00:48:42,615 --> 00:48:44,704 And last time we did that, they broke out. 896 00:48:44,791 --> 00:48:47,011 So, I figured you know somehow they have to learn 897 00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:49,839 to trust at least one human being. 898 00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:53,539 [dramatic music] 899 00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:57,195 - [Barbara] So, he decided to stay with them 24 hours a day, 900 00:48:57,282 --> 00:48:59,806 for as long as it took, to get them used to him. 901 00:49:02,156 --> 00:49:07,161 And every morning the matriarch would stand at the fence 902 00:49:08,641 --> 00:49:09,947 looking like she was going to make a break for it. 903 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,472 If an elephant breaks through an electric fence 904 00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:16,736 with their body once, they realize that they can 905 00:49:16,823 --> 00:49:20,044 withstand the charge long enough, 906 00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:22,133 that you can never hold them again. 907 00:49:24,657 --> 00:49:27,703 And Lawrence would stand just outside of her reach 908 00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:28,704 and talk to her. 909 00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:34,754 - [Lawrence] Hello, my baby beautiful, hello, my bubba. 910 00:49:34,841 --> 00:49:37,322 Hello, my beautiful girl. 911 00:49:37,409 --> 00:49:42,414 Yes, come on, come on, come, bubba. 912 00:49:44,677 --> 00:49:45,939 - [Barbara] Lawrence was staying with them, 913 00:49:46,026 --> 00:49:47,723 they were incredibly hostile. 914 00:49:47,810 --> 00:49:49,464 If they could have got him, 915 00:49:49,551 --> 00:49:50,813 they would have pulled him in 916 00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,990 and stomped him into the ground. 917 00:49:53,077 --> 00:49:57,168 So, after three weeks of this, one day Lawrence described it 918 00:49:57,255 --> 00:50:00,127 as though all of the hostility turned off, 919 00:50:00,214 --> 00:50:03,609 like you would turn off a light switch, just boom. 920 00:50:03,696 --> 00:50:07,004 - [Lawrence] Everything had gone calm and the matriarch 921 00:50:07,091 --> 00:50:08,396 walked up to me. 922 00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,094 And she approached me and I backed off, 923 00:50:10,181 --> 00:50:11,704 and she stood there, very benignly, 924 00:50:11,791 --> 00:50:15,229 ears down, great emotion around her. 925 00:50:15,316 --> 00:50:16,926 Eventually I stepped forward to the fence, 926 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:18,624 and she put her trunk through and touched me. 927 00:50:18,711 --> 00:50:20,843 And I thought, "Well, that's it, I'll let them out." 928 00:50:22,062 --> 00:50:25,109 [peaceful music] 929 00:50:25,196 --> 00:50:28,938 [elephant rumbling] 930 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:31,202 [shouting] 931 00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:33,421 - [Barbara] They could be a mile away, but if they heard it 932 00:50:33,508 --> 00:50:37,121 was Lawrence they would come like puppy dogs to see him. 933 00:50:39,732 --> 00:50:41,995 - [Lawrence] Whenever I come back, the day I come back, 934 00:50:42,082 --> 00:50:44,780 when I drive in, they'll come up to the house. 935 00:50:50,525 --> 00:50:53,398 The herd emanates something, it emanates something 936 00:50:53,485 --> 00:50:54,790 at a different level. 937 00:50:54,877 --> 00:50:57,054 Being in proximity to a herd, apart 938 00:50:57,141 --> 00:50:59,273 from watching the physical manifestations 939 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,408 and their body languages, you actually get an emanation. 940 00:51:12,721 --> 00:51:14,419 - The elephants had been living with Lawrence 941 00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,638 for about 12 years when he passed away. 942 00:51:16,725 --> 00:51:18,684 The elephants were about 12 miles 943 00:51:18,771 --> 00:51:21,991 from the house, and they perceived it. 944 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:27,084 And they walked to the house, in mourning, very sort 945 00:51:28,215 --> 00:51:30,261 of sad aspect; and when they got to the house, 946 00:51:30,348 --> 00:51:32,393 just very agitated they were usually very calm, 947 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,353 very peaceful, but they were very agitated. 948 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,921 And they stayed around the house for about three hours 949 00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:40,706 and then they disappeared. 950 00:51:40,793 --> 00:51:43,970 Interestingly, every year since then, on the anniversary 951 00:51:44,057 --> 00:51:46,712 of his death, they've returned to the house. 952 00:51:46,799 --> 00:51:49,976 [elephant trumpets, lion roars] 953 00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:57,505 - You know, lions are not getting the attention. 954 00:51:57,592 --> 00:51:59,333 It's up to us people in the field to try 955 00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:00,552 and stop the poisoning. 956 00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,554 It's all about the cattle. 957 00:52:02,641 --> 00:52:07,036 People don't boma, corral their stock, properly anymore. 958 00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:08,777 So lions get in. 959 00:52:08,864 --> 00:52:11,650 There's a lot more cattle, there's a lot more people. 960 00:52:13,304 --> 00:52:16,089 - So now we have a surge in cattle numbers 961 00:52:16,176 --> 00:52:18,874 and when they start to invade the wildlife space, 962 00:52:18,961 --> 00:52:20,485 that's when you get conflict. 963 00:52:20,572 --> 00:52:22,574 And then of course, people, if they lose a goat, 964 00:52:22,661 --> 00:52:24,576 or a cow, they retaliate. 965 00:52:24,663 --> 00:52:27,013 And they go after the hyena or the leopard or the lion. 966 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:30,103 And there are only 20,000 lions in Africa. 967 00:52:33,498 --> 00:52:37,284 - Well, I was a surfer at the coast and my dream of going 968 00:52:37,371 --> 00:52:39,634 into the bush and playing Tarzan 969 00:52:39,721 --> 00:52:43,899 and becoming a great game man, wildlife man in Africa, 970 00:52:43,986 --> 00:52:47,381 was sort of lost in the waves and the lifestyle. 971 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,210 When I met Joy, I had written to her 972 00:52:50,297 --> 00:52:51,951 and said "Have you got any openings, and she said, 973 00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:55,302 "Well, I have nothing going, but I know my husband 974 00:52:55,389 --> 00:52:58,610 "is looking for someone, because his previous assistant 975 00:52:58,697 --> 00:53:01,874 has just been killed by one his lions." 976 00:53:01,961 --> 00:53:03,310 And I thought, "Great, that sounds 977 00:53:03,397 --> 00:53:05,269 "like the sort of thing I want to do." 978 00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:10,970 When I joined George, his pride was down from 11 to 3. 979 00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:14,408 And amongst them were two females: Lisa, 980 00:53:14,495 --> 00:53:17,803 who was very affectionate, Juma, whom you couldn't handle, 981 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:20,980 because she'd been very badly treated on capture 982 00:53:21,067 --> 00:53:24,288 and Christian, the lion that came from England. 983 00:53:24,375 --> 00:53:27,073 [dramatic music] 984 00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:50,488 Christian was coming up to two years old, 985 00:53:50,575 --> 00:53:52,707 he really didn't know what he was doing. 986 00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:54,187 I didn't have a clue. 987 00:53:55,928 --> 00:53:58,713 Christian and I grew up together, and got into all sorts 988 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,759 of scrapes, had all sorts of fun, 989 00:54:00,846 --> 00:54:03,065 and we taught each other everything we knew. 990 00:54:04,110 --> 00:54:06,547 They're very loving and they're, 991 00:54:06,634 --> 00:54:08,462 you can form a very close relationship with them, 992 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,855 but you got to watch it. 993 00:54:09,942 --> 00:54:11,596 It's an occupational hazard. 994 00:54:11,683 --> 00:54:15,861 You know, racing drivers have car crashes and you know, 995 00:54:15,948 --> 00:54:19,212 painters fall off ladders, and it's no worse than that. 996 00:54:19,299 --> 00:54:21,475 It makes for a better story. 997 00:54:21,562 --> 00:54:22,520 - [Director] Is this one of the lions 998 00:54:22,607 --> 00:54:23,869 that you guys were raising? 999 00:54:23,956 --> 00:54:25,305 - No, it was part of a wild pride 1000 00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:27,046 that we brought up when their mother died. 1001 00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:29,222 Not a lion we'd ever handled. 1002 00:54:29,309 --> 00:54:30,354 But then eventually he got me. 1003 00:54:30,441 --> 00:54:32,051 All I could do was go fetal. 1004 00:54:32,138 --> 00:54:34,445 I could hardly...I kept sort of coming and going. 1005 00:54:36,882 --> 00:54:39,885 And then he got me through the neck and strangled. 1006 00:54:39,972 --> 00:54:42,540 George did the most wonderful things 1007 00:54:42,627 --> 00:54:45,804 because what he did with the respect and the understanding 1008 00:54:45,891 --> 00:54:47,284 that he had for these wild animals 1009 00:54:47,371 --> 00:54:48,894 and the way he carried it out 1010 00:54:48,981 --> 00:54:51,244 and just the whole toughness of it. 1011 00:54:51,331 --> 00:54:54,247 I mean, there he was day and night, 1012 00:54:54,334 --> 00:54:57,119 you know, 365 days a year out in the bush 1013 00:54:57,206 --> 00:54:58,512 with a pride of lions. 1014 00:55:03,169 --> 00:55:04,953 And they're lovely. 1015 00:55:18,663 --> 00:55:21,013 [flamingos honking] 1016 00:55:28,368 --> 00:55:30,631 So, I feel very sad, I never thought 1017 00:55:30,718 --> 00:55:33,460 that in the short period of time, nearly 50 years, 1018 00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:38,073 that I've been in Africa, I would see wild animals go down, 1019 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,120 you know, to such low levels and be regarded 1020 00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:43,340 in such a low light. 1021 00:55:48,301 --> 00:55:51,043 [tires on pavement] 1022 00:55:52,479 --> 00:55:56,265 It's just horrific how things can change so fast. 1023 00:55:57,441 --> 00:55:58,920 You know, it's just people against wildlife 1024 00:55:59,007 --> 00:56:01,706 and looking after wildlife isn't difficult. 1025 00:56:01,793 --> 00:56:05,144 It's not rocket science, but you just got to make sure 1026 00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:08,103 that if there's crime, there's punishment. 1027 00:56:08,190 --> 00:56:11,716 And none of the big boys ever go down that are behind this, 1028 00:56:11,803 --> 00:56:14,371 and you don't see any middlemen caught. 1029 00:56:14,458 --> 00:56:17,025 Certain tribes punch way above their weight 1030 00:56:17,112 --> 00:56:18,766 and just ignore the laws. 1031 00:56:18,853 --> 00:56:21,508 The attractively dressed people that the Western world 1032 00:56:21,595 --> 00:56:25,251 loves so much are the worst offenders in all of this. 1033 00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:29,342 Lions used to be poisoned 1034 00:56:29,429 --> 00:56:32,824 with a very readily available cattle dip called Kopertox. 1035 00:56:32,911 --> 00:56:35,783 Now they're use an insecticide, which is even more virulent, 1036 00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:38,830 called Furadan, which comes from America. 1037 00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:40,658 It's meant to be banned, of course it isn't, 1038 00:56:40,745 --> 00:56:41,963 you can buy it anywhere. 1039 00:56:43,791 --> 00:56:46,490 And that's what comes with the increase in stock numbers. 1040 00:56:47,926 --> 00:56:50,885 - It starts with some lions going into an enclosure, 1041 00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:53,932 the residue carcass getting spliced with this poison. 1042 00:56:54,019 --> 00:56:57,501 The lions coming back, they get killed, hyenas come in, 1043 00:56:57,588 --> 00:56:59,851 they get killed, the vultures come in, 1044 00:56:59,938 --> 00:57:01,635 they get killed, it's horrific. 1045 00:57:03,637 --> 00:57:07,162 Lions and leopards in particular are very capable 1046 00:57:07,249 --> 00:57:10,209 of jumping over and climbing into these enclosures. 1047 00:57:11,645 --> 00:57:14,996 Leopard in particular, they go on kind of killing phase. 1048 00:57:15,083 --> 00:57:17,129 It's like kill everything that moves. 1049 00:57:17,216 --> 00:57:20,567 The owner of that livestock is not best pleased, 1050 00:57:20,654 --> 00:57:22,090 to put it mildly. 1051 00:57:22,177 --> 00:57:25,137 Many of them will kill the offending leopard 1052 00:57:25,224 --> 00:57:27,095 or kill the offending lion. 1053 00:57:27,182 --> 00:57:29,533 Almost all these predators don't like people. 1054 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:31,056 Elephants don't like people. 1055 00:57:31,143 --> 00:57:33,275 Fully understandable, we're the big baddies. 1056 00:57:35,930 --> 00:57:38,237 Okay, Light for Life, it's the deployment 1057 00:57:38,324 --> 00:57:42,154 of a LED lighting system, a flashing lighting system 1058 00:57:42,241 --> 00:57:45,244 around the periphery of livestock enclosures. 1059 00:57:48,334 --> 00:57:50,031 [calf mooing] 1060 00:57:50,118 --> 00:57:51,903 These flashing lights actually represent human movement, 1061 00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:54,166 activity within the enclosures. 1062 00:57:55,646 --> 00:57:57,082 If you stop the predator 1063 00:57:57,169 --> 00:57:59,650 going into the boma, then there is no need 1064 00:57:59,737 --> 00:58:01,565 for retaliatory killing. 1065 00:58:01,652 --> 00:58:03,262 Then they don't need to go out with a spear. 1066 00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:04,742 They don't need to lay poison. 1067 00:58:04,829 --> 00:58:06,395 They are prepared to accept living 1068 00:58:06,483 --> 00:58:10,748 in proximity...as they have done for generations. 1069 00:58:10,835 --> 00:58:13,490 [lion grunting] 1070 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:58,491 - For the last fifteen years, 1071 00:58:58,578 --> 00:59:01,625 I've run my own safari hunting company, 1072 00:59:01,712 --> 00:59:03,714 which is basically trophy hunting. 1073 00:59:06,586 --> 00:59:08,153 I believe in hunting. 1074 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,243 I don't see anything wrong in shooting an animal. 1075 00:59:11,330 --> 00:59:16,204 I don't necessarily say you should shoot a trophy animal. 1076 00:59:17,989 --> 00:59:20,078 - [Director] Why are animals trophies? 1077 00:59:21,253 --> 00:59:25,518 - It's a memento of the experience of the hunt. 1078 00:59:25,605 --> 00:59:28,173 So you keep something from your experience. 1079 00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:31,959 Because the trophy hunting fraternity likes to say 1080 00:59:32,046 --> 00:59:34,396 that we're not just there to kill something, 1081 00:59:34,483 --> 00:59:35,528 it's about the experience. 1082 00:59:35,615 --> 00:59:36,921 It's not about the trophy. 1083 00:59:37,008 --> 00:59:38,705 It's all about being in the wilderness 1084 00:59:38,792 --> 00:59:40,141 and pursuing something. 1085 00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:47,584 In many cases underage animals will get shot, even females. 1086 00:59:48,715 --> 00:59:50,456 Females are not allowed to be shot. 1087 00:59:52,284 --> 00:59:56,375 If you do shoot a female, it's a transgression of the law. 1088 00:59:56,462 --> 01:00:00,248 Certain species are very susceptible to this, like lion. 1089 01:00:00,335 --> 01:00:02,511 Because in the field, it's incredibly easy 1090 01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:03,817 to change the rules. 1091 01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:09,649 There's no one around for miles except the game scout, 1092 01:00:09,736 --> 01:00:11,259 who works for me, I pay him. 1093 01:00:13,261 --> 01:00:18,266 You'll do a hunt of 10 days, that's 2,500 dollars you earn. 1094 01:00:20,094 --> 01:00:24,708 $2,500 is a reasonable amount, I believe, for 10 days. 1095 01:00:24,795 --> 01:00:26,710 Some people don't think so, so they rely 1096 01:00:26,797 --> 01:00:29,147 on a gratuity at the end of the safari. 1097 01:00:30,714 --> 01:00:34,979 And so, the client would be, "Well, why can't I shoot that?" 1098 01:00:38,547 --> 01:00:40,593 So, then the professional hunter starts thinking, 1099 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,900 well if I let him shoot it, 1100 01:00:42,987 --> 01:00:44,815 maybe he'll give me a better gratuity. 1101 01:00:48,035 --> 01:00:50,516 You've got to weigh up your ethics and your morals 1102 01:00:50,603 --> 01:00:52,344 within an instant in the field. 1103 01:00:52,431 --> 01:00:56,740 Everyone brands the term, hunters are conservationists. 1104 01:00:58,176 --> 01:01:01,527 They are in that sense, but there's lots of hunters 1105 01:01:01,614 --> 01:01:03,398 who don't stick to that. 1106 01:01:03,485 --> 01:01:07,098 And look, mistakes happen. 1107 01:01:07,185 --> 01:01:08,839 Lots of mistakes have happened to me. 1108 01:01:08,926 --> 01:01:11,145 If someone tells me, as a professional hunter, 1109 01:01:11,232 --> 01:01:14,496 they've never made a mistake, they're lying. 1110 01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:16,455 I'd call them a liar to their face. 1111 01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:18,587 You know things do happen. 1112 01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:20,285 [tense music] 1113 01:01:20,372 --> 01:01:25,377 Taking a photograph is, you're just viewing, 1114 01:01:26,334 --> 01:01:27,858 you're not participating in action. 1115 01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:32,427 And, the act of hunting is not about killing. 1116 01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,388 It's about that participation in nature 1117 01:01:36,475 --> 01:01:38,433 and with each individual animal. 1118 01:01:41,306 --> 01:01:43,395 We as hunters tout, you know, 1119 01:01:43,482 --> 01:01:45,223 "Hunting is conservation. 1120 01:01:46,398 --> 01:01:48,705 "It's the best form of conservation." 1121 01:01:48,792 --> 01:01:50,532 What I've seen in my lifetime 1122 01:01:50,619 --> 01:01:54,232 is that our wilderness areas have just been depleted. 1123 01:01:58,845 --> 01:02:00,673 - [Director] So when you kill an animal, 1124 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,283 you don't think it's murder, you don't think it's-- 1125 01:02:02,370 --> 01:02:06,026 - I cry, I've hunted lion, every lion that one 1126 01:02:06,113 --> 01:02:07,854 of my clients has taken, I cry. 1127 01:02:07,941 --> 01:02:11,684 Because I, I feel that it's not right 1128 01:02:13,164 --> 01:02:17,821 to take that animal's life, he has lived a life like I have. 1129 01:02:18,909 --> 01:02:22,303 [dramatic music] 1130 01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:24,828 When you're hunting antelope, there's thousands of them. 1131 01:02:24,915 --> 01:02:27,265 So, it's not a big event. 1132 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:34,185 The work and effort that goes into the hunting of a lion 1133 01:02:35,273 --> 01:02:37,623 is worthy of the respect to the animal. 1134 01:02:37,710 --> 01:02:39,059 For me, it's their life. 1135 01:02:39,146 --> 01:02:40,757 Especially a male lion, 1136 01:02:40,844 --> 01:02:44,238 they go through hardships, they're survivors. 1137 01:02:45,283 --> 01:02:46,893 Because they get kicked out of the pride 1138 01:02:46,980 --> 01:02:49,983 when they're two or three years old and they have 1139 01:02:50,070 --> 01:02:52,203 to make it on their own. 1140 01:02:52,290 --> 01:02:55,946 When you find a male lion that is past his prime, 1141 01:02:56,033 --> 01:03:00,733 when he is nine, 10 years old, he has been through 1142 01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:05,782 so much in that span of time, it's worthy of adoration. 1143 01:03:09,263 --> 01:03:12,310 It sounds stupid to now go kill him, 1144 01:03:12,397 --> 01:03:15,139 but you know, that's what we have to do. 1145 01:03:15,226 --> 01:03:17,619 That's part of the system. 1146 01:03:20,013 --> 01:03:24,409 The very first elephant hunt I went on was 1147 01:03:24,496 --> 01:03:28,239 with my stepfather and the number of elephants he killed 1148 01:03:28,326 --> 01:03:31,068 is insignificant to what other people have done. 1149 01:03:32,243 --> 01:03:34,288 We didn't boast about shooting elephants. 1150 01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:38,031 Before that, you know, the great white hunters, 1151 01:03:38,118 --> 01:03:40,773 they were shooting thousands of elephants. 1152 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,428 They'd cut out the tusks and cut out the heart 1153 01:03:43,515 --> 01:03:45,778 and eat that and move on. 1154 01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:52,002 - [Director] Why do people want to eat the heart? 1155 01:03:55,005 --> 01:03:56,528 - I would not personally shoot an elephant 1156 01:03:56,615 --> 01:03:57,834 just for its heart. 1157 01:03:59,357 --> 01:04:02,360 But it, you know that's the best tasting part 1158 01:04:02,447 --> 01:04:03,927 of an elephant is the heart. 1159 01:04:05,363 --> 01:04:07,800 But to go and kill an elephant just to have that, 1160 01:04:07,887 --> 01:04:11,630 no, you don't do that. [laughs] 1161 01:04:14,633 --> 01:04:17,810 With an elephant once it's dead, it's a process. 1162 01:04:17,897 --> 01:04:19,290 You start butchering the elephant. 1163 01:04:19,377 --> 01:04:21,466 Now to cut through the skin takes, 1164 01:04:21,553 --> 01:04:23,555 maybe two hours to get the skin off. 1165 01:04:24,991 --> 01:04:28,908 When you reach the heart, it's considered a delicacy, 1166 01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:31,432 so you make a fire, you cut it open, 1167 01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:34,131 and you start cooking it on the fire. 1168 01:04:34,218 --> 01:04:35,610 And you put a bit of salt on it, 1169 01:04:35,697 --> 01:04:38,962 and you start cutting little bits off of it 1170 01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:42,748 as you're working, throughout the day. 1171 01:04:49,929 --> 01:04:51,322 I wouldn't say I despise 1172 01:04:51,409 --> 01:04:53,019 the trophy hunting movement entirely, 1173 01:04:53,106 --> 01:04:55,674 because it does serve some function 1174 01:04:55,761 --> 01:04:57,850 to bringing clients to Africa. 1175 01:04:57,937 --> 01:05:01,985 Hunting is not about collecting as many animals as you can, 1176 01:05:02,072 --> 01:05:04,988 getting a gold Super Bowl-style ring. 1177 01:05:05,075 --> 01:05:07,207 And that is what the largest hunting club 1178 01:05:07,294 --> 01:05:09,166 in America promotes. 1179 01:05:11,777 --> 01:05:14,867 They want you to shoot as many animals as you can 1180 01:05:14,954 --> 01:05:17,174 and then you become part of the inner circle, 1181 01:05:17,261 --> 01:05:18,218 and you get a ring. 1182 01:05:21,352 --> 01:05:23,180 You get numerous awards before that. 1183 01:05:26,226 --> 01:05:29,447 But that is not what hunting is about. 1184 01:05:32,363 --> 01:05:36,497 The American hunter thinks my 100,000 dollars 1185 01:05:36,584 --> 01:05:38,978 that I've paid, all of that goes 1186 01:05:39,065 --> 01:05:40,806 back into conservation, it doesn't. 1187 01:05:43,722 --> 01:05:44,636 Wow, look at that. 1188 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,425 - Oh yeah, we have boxes and boxes. 1189 01:05:51,512 --> 01:05:52,774 - [Director] What are those? 1190 01:05:52,861 --> 01:05:54,080 - These are elephant hair bracelets. 1191 01:05:54,167 --> 01:05:55,821 - [Director] And where are they from? 1192 01:05:55,908 --> 01:05:58,302 - They're the hair that comes from an elephant's tail. 1193 01:05:59,694 --> 01:06:02,610 So they used to be very popular, but I guess nowadays 1194 01:06:02,697 --> 01:06:06,179 they're would be a social issue with wearing them. 1195 01:06:08,181 --> 01:06:11,576 You get about twenty bracelets from a tail. 1196 01:06:11,663 --> 01:06:15,232 - Just this one bag would be five or six, right? 1197 01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:20,324 Because there's a hundred, there's 179 bracelets in here. 1198 01:06:21,499 --> 01:06:22,848 - That's what we see the most common thing 1199 01:06:22,935 --> 01:06:24,719 on the elephant is they chop the tusks out 1200 01:06:24,806 --> 01:06:27,679 and take the tail, those are the two parts they take. 1201 01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:31,030 - [Director] How old is that elephant? 1202 01:06:32,249 --> 01:06:36,993 - An adolescent, maybe twelve, twelve years. 1203 01:06:38,342 --> 01:06:39,517 It's still a baby. 1204 01:06:40,692 --> 01:06:43,434 It's not right, that they end up, 1205 01:06:43,521 --> 01:06:48,091 an elephant ends up for this, to satisfy some, 1206 01:06:48,178 --> 01:06:51,094 you know, put on someone's mantelpiece. 1207 01:06:51,181 --> 01:06:53,444 That's not what they're, they're too majestic 1208 01:06:53,531 --> 01:06:55,750 and special to end up here. 1209 01:06:58,536 --> 01:07:00,538 [sighs] 1210 01:07:01,582 --> 01:07:04,368 [dramatic music] 1211 01:07:13,986 --> 01:07:16,554 [gun clicking] 1212 01:07:20,036 --> 01:07:22,951 [wings fluttering] 1213 01:07:25,911 --> 01:07:29,784 In terms of trophy hunting, I don't do that anymore. 1214 01:07:29,871 --> 01:07:31,482 - [Director] But you'll take people to Africa, 1215 01:07:31,569 --> 01:07:33,745 so, you're like a middleman for murder. 1216 01:07:34,615 --> 01:07:36,313 - Middleman for murder? 1217 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,749 I guess you could look at it that way, 1218 01:07:37,836 --> 01:07:40,447 that's an extreme view, though. [laughs] 1219 01:07:40,534 --> 01:07:41,970 Because, what do you call it? 1220 01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:47,976 The, what do you call it? The abattoir, 1221 01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:50,153 murderous chain is already set up there. 1222 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,156 So, rather have a good guy doing it 1223 01:07:53,243 --> 01:07:55,723 than a bad guy abusing it. 1224 01:07:59,423 --> 01:08:02,382 In Africa, it's a different situation 1225 01:08:02,469 --> 01:08:06,343 with the trophy hunting because the animals are utilized. 1226 01:08:06,430 --> 01:08:08,301 The finances, the money that comes in 1227 01:08:08,388 --> 01:08:11,043 from the utilization of those animals, 1228 01:08:11,130 --> 01:08:13,872 gets put back into conservation...theoretically. 1229 01:08:14,742 --> 01:08:17,310 - [Director] But it doesn't. 1230 01:08:17,397 --> 01:08:19,138 Who takes the money? 1231 01:08:19,225 --> 01:08:22,272 - The majority of the money that is made from trophy hunting 1232 01:08:23,447 --> 01:08:27,103 remains within the government circles. 1233 01:08:27,190 --> 01:08:29,757 I would say, 70% remains 1234 01:08:29,844 --> 01:08:31,933 within the circles of administration. 1235 01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:41,117 Game numbers are often fabricated, 1236 01:08:41,204 --> 01:08:44,555 because if you have high game numbers 1237 01:08:44,642 --> 01:08:48,515 it means you can harvest more, you know. 1238 01:08:48,602 --> 01:08:52,215 So, the utilization of the money 1239 01:08:52,302 --> 01:08:57,263 that comes from hunting, very little filters through 1240 01:09:01,006 --> 01:09:02,573 to what it's intended for. 1241 01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:06,272 It's intended to make the communities living 1242 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:11,321 within those hunting areas benefit: education, medical, 1243 01:09:15,499 --> 01:09:19,590 an upliftment of their lives, for not utilizing that land. 1244 01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:24,377 And secondly, the conservation of the animals, 1245 01:09:24,464 --> 01:09:26,684 that money is meant to conserve. 1246 01:09:28,207 --> 01:09:31,776 - People have become much more environmentally conscious, 1247 01:09:31,863 --> 01:09:33,517 much more green. 1248 01:09:33,604 --> 01:09:35,562 And in particular when it comes to something 1249 01:09:35,649 --> 01:09:39,653 like African wildlife where you read the shocking statistics 1250 01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:42,178 and people want to do something about it. 1251 01:09:43,353 --> 01:09:46,269 So, when you're talking about 75,000 dollars, 1252 01:09:46,356 --> 01:09:49,359 for instance to hunt an elephant, or to hunt a lion, 1253 01:09:49,446 --> 01:09:52,100 or something like that, most of that money 1254 01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,146 is actually going to the professional hunter. 1255 01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:56,540 You've got the person from the United States, 1256 01:09:56,627 --> 01:09:59,847 often as not, who comes here to hunt an animal. 1257 01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:04,287 And he engages a hunting safari operator here, 1258 01:10:04,374 --> 01:10:07,638 a professional hunter, and the bulk of that money goes 1259 01:10:07,725 --> 01:10:11,946 to that individual: the 50, 60, 70,000 dollars. 1260 01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:14,558 And only a small portion of that actually goes 1261 01:10:14,645 --> 01:10:17,909 to the government in the form of the license 1262 01:10:17,996 --> 01:10:21,565 that they pay for the right to kill an animal. 1263 01:10:21,652 --> 01:10:23,828 So, 4,500 dollars and they share 1264 01:10:23,915 --> 01:10:26,178 that between the communities in the area 1265 01:10:26,265 --> 01:10:30,138 of the hunting concession. So, it's peanuts. 1266 01:10:31,966 --> 01:10:34,665 You're not going to get hundreds of thousands 1267 01:10:34,752 --> 01:10:36,101 of people coming to hunt. 1268 01:10:36,188 --> 01:10:37,450 You're going to get hundreds of thousands 1269 01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:40,584 of people coming to take photographs. 1270 01:10:40,671 --> 01:10:43,848 Two things actually seem obvious, to me anyway. 1271 01:10:43,935 --> 01:10:45,806 One is that there should be more of an emphasis 1272 01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:49,854 on photographic safari tourism and the second 1273 01:10:49,941 --> 01:10:52,509 is that they ought to raise the fee 1274 01:10:52,596 --> 01:10:55,338 that they charge these hunters to come in 1275 01:10:55,425 --> 01:10:56,817 and hunt an animal. 1276 01:10:58,036 --> 01:10:59,646 So, over the span of its lifetime, 1277 01:10:59,733 --> 01:11:01,866 a lion would generate three and half million dollars 1278 01:11:01,953 --> 01:11:05,348 in photographic safari tourism revenue. 1279 01:11:05,435 --> 01:11:07,350 An elephant is something over a million. 1280 01:11:08,742 --> 01:11:10,222 But the professional hunters have to come to terms 1281 01:11:10,309 --> 01:11:13,921 with the effects of poaching on their industry. 1282 01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:16,489 There just aren't that many animals left anymore. 1283 01:11:18,883 --> 01:11:22,060 - [Director] What was the impetus to take hunting out 1284 01:11:22,147 --> 01:11:23,627 of the safari business? 1285 01:11:23,714 --> 01:11:26,064 - I have to go back many, many years. 1286 01:11:26,151 --> 01:11:28,196 Really, it almost goes back to my childhood. 1287 01:11:28,284 --> 01:11:30,764 I grew up in Africa, we all hunted, 1288 01:11:30,851 --> 01:11:32,418 it was a thing we just did. 1289 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:35,595 We hunted the Maasai Mara, 1290 01:11:35,682 --> 01:11:38,163 where the Masaai Mara game reserve is today. 1291 01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:40,992 The climax of the whole safari was to shoot an elephant. 1292 01:11:42,167 --> 01:11:43,821 I shot the elephant, the elephant charged, 1293 01:11:43,908 --> 01:11:46,563 and the elephant died, literally within a few feet of me. 1294 01:11:47,999 --> 01:11:49,566 When I saw this elephant dead, 1295 01:11:49,653 --> 01:11:53,091 it was like this horrendous feeling came over me. 1296 01:11:53,178 --> 01:11:54,527 - [Director] Did you cry? 1297 01:11:54,614 --> 01:11:55,659 - I said, "How could I have done this?" 1298 01:11:55,746 --> 01:11:57,356 No, I didn't cry, I just felt, 1299 01:11:57,443 --> 01:11:59,489 I just felt shocked, "How could I have done this?" 1300 01:11:59,576 --> 01:12:00,664 Beautiful animal, dead. 1301 01:12:02,361 --> 01:12:03,928 There's something about a hunt, 1302 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:06,409 if you've done it, which is very, very thrilling. 1303 01:12:06,496 --> 01:12:08,367 You can't take the higher ground here, 1304 01:12:08,454 --> 01:12:10,456 oh, it's just terrible to hunt, you know? 1305 01:12:10,543 --> 01:12:11,762 Why do people hunt? 1306 01:12:11,849 --> 01:12:13,111 Why? 1307 01:12:13,198 --> 01:12:14,765 Because it's thrilling, it's exciting. 1308 01:12:14,852 --> 01:12:17,594 So, I said, "Well how can I have an exciting feeling 1309 01:12:17,681 --> 01:12:20,074 "about my safaris, like when I was young?" 1310 01:12:20,161 --> 01:12:22,425 So, I built the first camp in the world, 1311 01:12:22,512 --> 01:12:24,296 you see all these tented camps all over the world? 1312 01:12:24,383 --> 01:12:25,819 Mine was the first camp ever. 1313 01:12:25,906 --> 01:12:27,038 - [Director] In Kenya? 1314 01:12:27,125 --> 01:12:28,909 - No, in the world. 1315 01:12:28,996 --> 01:12:33,349 And so I hit America, in about 1966, or '67, with a slogan: 1316 01:12:34,219 --> 01:12:36,090 Hunt with a camera, not a gun. 1317 01:12:36,177 --> 01:12:38,919 [plane roaring] 1318 01:12:39,006 --> 01:12:42,532 [soaring, uplifting music] 1319 01:12:43,533 --> 01:12:44,882 I felt like a missionary. 1320 01:12:44,969 --> 01:12:46,971 I came all over saying "No, don't hunt!" 1321 01:12:48,407 --> 01:12:49,974 Have all the thrill of the hunt, but at the last minute 1322 01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:53,151 instead of going bang, you'd go pop, 1323 01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:55,022 and you'd have a lovely picture forever. 1324 01:12:56,459 --> 01:12:58,069 And I used to go and stay with all the people in Texas 1325 01:12:58,156 --> 01:13:00,463 and they had these huge trophy rooms and I would say, 1326 01:13:00,550 --> 01:13:04,162 "No, this over!" "No, we're going on our next hunt, Geoff, 1327 01:13:04,249 --> 01:13:05,642 "we're gonna do this, why don't you come with?" 1328 01:13:05,729 --> 01:13:07,644 And I said "No, no, no, I've got this idea." 1329 01:13:07,731 --> 01:13:09,297 And they go, "What the? 1330 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:11,474 "That sounds so pathetic, that's a girl's thing. 1331 01:13:11,561 --> 01:13:13,998 "Girls do photographs, men hunt." 1332 01:13:14,085 --> 01:13:16,087 And I said, "No, no you have it wrong." 1333 01:13:16,174 --> 01:13:17,480 So, what was better? 1334 01:13:17,567 --> 01:13:19,438 To hunt, or to go into photography? 1335 01:13:19,525 --> 01:13:21,571 Everybody ridiculed it, the answer was, 1336 01:13:21,658 --> 01:13:24,269 "Of course, photography!" 1337 01:13:24,356 --> 01:13:25,966 It was the best thing ever. 1338 01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:27,490 - [Narrator] For every $1.00 invested 1339 01:13:27,577 --> 01:13:29,796 in protecting elephants in East Africa, 1340 01:13:29,883 --> 01:13:33,365 they get back $1.78 in tourism revenue. 1341 01:13:34,584 --> 01:13:36,977 - Where are all the guys who used to go hunting? 1342 01:13:37,064 --> 01:13:38,283 Still running around in their Toyotas, 1343 01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:40,459 shooting a few elephant, you know? 1344 01:13:40,546 --> 01:13:42,330 [chain breaking] 1345 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:44,158 People who hunt always claim 1346 01:13:44,245 --> 01:13:47,248 they're the most knowledgeable conservationists on earth. 1347 01:13:47,335 --> 01:13:49,381 They say that if they weren't there, 1348 01:13:49,468 --> 01:13:50,643 what would happen to the land? 1349 01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:52,428 It would just go back to cattle. 1350 01:13:52,515 --> 01:13:54,604 They say, "If we weren't there policing our concession, 1351 01:13:54,691 --> 01:13:58,085 "the poachers would come in and eradicate all the animals." 1352 01:13:58,172 --> 01:13:59,435 When I was born, 1353 01:13:59,522 --> 01:14:01,480 there were 500,000 lions in Africa. 1354 01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:03,308 I don't know how many there are, 1355 01:14:03,395 --> 01:14:06,006 but we know 36,000 elephants are being killed every year. 1356 01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:07,225 We know that. 1357 01:14:07,312 --> 01:14:08,879 - [Narrator] Just 20,000 lions 1358 01:14:08,966 --> 01:14:12,404 remain on the entire African continent. 1359 01:14:12,491 --> 01:14:16,060 The continent of Africa is as big as China, India, 1360 01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:19,890 the United States and most of Europe combined. 1361 01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:23,328 - So, it's clearly not sustainable, 1362 01:14:23,415 --> 01:14:24,764 if you're gonna be shooting an animal. 1363 01:14:24,851 --> 01:14:27,419 So, how can anybody look at me and say, 1364 01:14:27,506 --> 01:14:29,377 "I'm a professional hunter 1365 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:31,249 "and I'm the world's greatest conservationist." 1366 01:14:31,336 --> 01:14:33,556 There's something missing in their brain. 1367 01:14:33,643 --> 01:14:35,079 And they gotta wake up, actually, 1368 01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:37,473 because this is not sustainable. 1369 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,344 [birds tweeting] 1370 01:14:39,431 --> 01:14:42,260 - Fifty percent of the trophies go to the United States. 1371 01:14:42,347 --> 01:14:44,349 So, we play a role in this also. 1372 01:14:45,742 --> 01:14:49,920 I guess, I'm, you know, loathe to put all the blame 1373 01:14:50,007 --> 01:14:53,750 on any one country, but something's got to be done. 1374 01:14:58,668 --> 01:15:00,931 Our role should be supporting 1375 01:15:01,018 --> 01:15:03,020 what African governments themselves are doing. 1376 01:15:03,107 --> 01:15:08,112 Because if the African people, and the African governments 1377 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,854 don't want to preserve the wildlife, 1378 01:15:10,941 --> 01:15:12,769 there's really nothing that we can do from the outside. 1379 01:15:12,856 --> 01:15:15,554 Our job actually is to convince them that it's 1380 01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:18,688 in their best interest to preserve these animals 1381 01:15:18,775 --> 01:15:19,602 for the future. 1382 01:15:22,387 --> 01:15:25,129 - We cannot tell local communities, 1383 01:15:25,216 --> 01:15:29,002 "Oh, we feel that in America or in England, 1384 01:15:29,089 --> 01:15:32,223 "that it's really bad for them to hunt lions." 1385 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:34,138 They'll say "Why is it bad for us to hunt lions? 1386 01:15:34,225 --> 01:15:35,792 "They destroy, they destroy. 1387 01:15:35,879 --> 01:15:38,316 "They eat our cattle, they're a nuisance to us." 1388 01:15:38,403 --> 01:15:40,536 But if you can convince them, "No, that lion 1389 01:15:40,623 --> 01:15:42,625 "is no longer a nuisance to you, it's going 1390 01:15:42,712 --> 01:15:44,627 "to bring these amount of people. 1391 01:15:44,714 --> 01:15:47,630 "Even if it kills a cow now and again, so what? 1392 01:15:47,717 --> 01:15:49,153 "This is what it brings in." 1393 01:15:50,415 --> 01:15:53,070 But it has to go to the people, 1394 01:15:53,157 --> 01:15:55,812 the people have to get the money. 1395 01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:58,510 [upbeat music] 1396 01:16:00,512 --> 01:16:03,559 [Baka women sing] 1397 01:16:19,139 --> 01:16:21,185 [tense music] 1398 01:16:21,272 --> 01:16:24,841 - They did a study of the use of the forest by Baka people. 1399 01:16:24,928 --> 01:16:29,280 The areas that were most important to the Baka people 1400 01:16:29,367 --> 01:16:32,892 are the areas where the ape density was greatest. 1401 01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:36,026 So, when traditional dwelling humans in forests 1402 01:16:36,113 --> 01:16:38,898 share their forests with apes, even if sometimes apes 1403 01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:43,033 are killed, for some special occasion, the apes do great 1404 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,818 and the forest is healthy and the people live there. 1405 01:16:47,167 --> 01:16:48,212 - [Narrator] The Baka people have 1406 01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:50,475 over 15 words for elephant. 1407 01:16:51,781 --> 01:16:54,566 - If the argument is that, we need the wealth 1408 01:16:54,653 --> 01:16:57,264 under the land, the diamonds, minerals, 1409 01:16:57,351 --> 01:16:59,005 petroleum, and so forth. 1410 01:16:59,092 --> 01:17:00,833 If you look at the countries, 1411 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,402 which have the most valuable of these resources in Africa, 1412 01:17:04,489 --> 01:17:06,447 say, where they've been exploited already 1413 01:17:06,534 --> 01:17:08,319 for a hundred years or more. 1414 01:17:08,406 --> 01:17:11,235 These are still amongst the poorest countries in the world. 1415 01:17:11,322 --> 01:17:14,020 So, it hasn't benefited the local people. 1416 01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:18,895 It is colonialism to remove people from their land, 1417 01:17:18,982 --> 01:17:22,855 and it's also racist, and it's also illegal. 1418 01:17:24,335 --> 01:17:27,294 And it's time to respect the people who have lived 1419 01:17:27,381 --> 01:17:30,515 in these places for, for essentially forever 1420 01:17:30,602 --> 01:17:32,996 and to accept the fact that they have rights, 1421 01:17:33,083 --> 01:17:36,216 just like we claim for ourselves. 1422 01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:40,177 In Cameroon there's still parks being created 1423 01:17:40,264 --> 01:17:41,918 and other protected zones. 1424 01:17:42,005 --> 01:17:43,746 Some of them are for trophy hunting. 1425 01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:45,530 So if you pay a lot of money you can go 1426 01:17:45,617 --> 01:17:49,099 and hunt a forest elephant, for example. 1427 01:17:49,186 --> 01:17:51,971 Although that's actually an endangered species. 1428 01:17:52,058 --> 01:17:55,366 There are areas, which are adjacent to the parks, 1429 01:17:55,453 --> 01:17:58,282 which are so-called protected, some are for logging, 1430 01:17:58,369 --> 01:18:00,414 some are for trophy hunting. 1431 01:18:01,589 --> 01:18:05,768 The Baka are evicted and pushed to the edge 1432 01:18:05,855 --> 01:18:07,204 and outside the park, 1433 01:18:07,291 --> 01:18:10,033 where their society is entirely smashed. 1434 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,211 They turn to drink, there are no jobs. 1435 01:18:14,298 --> 01:18:18,084 It's not as if we're offering these people an alternative. 1436 01:18:18,171 --> 01:18:19,433 Tribal peoples have lived 1437 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,305 on these lands essentially forever. 1438 01:18:22,741 --> 01:18:26,049 The Baka, so-called pygmies, they are stewards of the land. 1439 01:18:26,136 --> 01:18:29,661 They know how to look after it and how to look 1440 01:18:29,748 --> 01:18:31,228 after the animals, which they use, 1441 01:18:31,315 --> 01:18:32,751 including the ones they hunt. 1442 01:18:34,579 --> 01:18:38,496 [speaking in Baka language] 1443 01:19:00,866 --> 01:19:03,434 We're stealing their land in order to set up parks 1444 01:19:05,958 --> 01:19:08,482 and to satisfy conservationists and for tourism. 1445 01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:12,051 Lodges are built, roads are built. 1446 01:19:13,487 --> 01:19:15,228 There is often harassment of the animals. 1447 01:19:19,015 --> 01:19:19,842 And that is actually extremely dangerous 1448 01:19:21,539 --> 01:19:22,758 because it makes them more likely to attack people 1449 01:19:22,845 --> 01:19:22,932 if people are outside the vehicles. 1450 01:19:28,024 --> 01:19:30,243 Whereas formerly they would have just run away 1451 01:19:30,330 --> 01:19:32,028 and avoided people all together, 1452 01:19:32,115 --> 01:19:34,726 so it changes animal behavior. 1453 01:19:37,729 --> 01:19:42,734 There's several layers of this con trick in conservation. 1454 01:19:44,127 --> 01:19:46,346 One is that these lands are empty of peoples when in fact, 1455 01:19:46,433 --> 01:19:48,827 they've been emptied of peoples, forcibly, 1456 01:19:48,914 --> 01:19:51,264 often to make the conservation zones. 1457 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,313 [speaking in Baka language] 1458 01:21:02,074 --> 01:21:05,295 Another is that the outside conservationists are somehow 1459 01:21:05,382 --> 01:21:08,951 or other better at preserving the environment, 1460 01:21:09,038 --> 01:21:11,257 preserving the eco-diversity, 1461 01:21:11,344 --> 01:21:13,129 than the people who live there. 1462 01:21:13,216 --> 01:21:16,784 And actually there's almost no scientific evidence 1463 01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:19,048 to support that and the scientific evidence 1464 01:21:19,135 --> 01:21:21,964 is in actually completely the other direction. 1465 01:21:22,051 --> 01:21:24,792 [dramatic music] 1466 01:21:26,751 --> 01:21:28,971 [splashing] [elephant trumpeting 1467 01:21:29,058 --> 01:21:31,756 - What we need to do is make sure that businesses 1468 01:21:31,843 --> 01:21:34,324 are doing what people want and what people want 1469 01:21:34,411 --> 01:21:38,458 is to have a world, which is looking after their interests, 1470 01:21:38,545 --> 01:21:39,851 is looking after nature's interests, 1471 01:21:39,938 --> 01:21:41,679 is looking after society's interests. 1472 01:21:42,854 --> 01:21:44,508 One of the solutions that we can bring 1473 01:21:44,595 --> 01:21:48,077 into this complex problem is around natural capital. 1474 01:21:49,556 --> 01:21:52,342 And this model that we used to have, of cutting it off, 1475 01:21:52,429 --> 01:21:54,910 fencing it off, making sure that it was protected. 1476 01:21:54,997 --> 01:21:58,348 Conserving, that word conservation is about protecting it, 1477 01:21:58,435 --> 01:21:59,610 and making sure no one goes there. 1478 01:21:59,697 --> 01:22:01,177 That isn't conservation. 1479 01:22:01,264 --> 01:22:03,266 Conservation is making sure we're understanding 1480 01:22:03,353 --> 01:22:06,922 how dependent we are on it, the benefits it gives us. 1481 01:22:08,793 --> 01:22:13,537 So, the idea that we should have control over it, 1482 01:22:13,624 --> 01:22:16,540 we should fence it off, means that we have to keep on 1483 01:22:16,627 --> 01:22:18,237 paying to protect it. 1484 01:22:18,324 --> 01:22:20,022 So, we work with the local people, we work 1485 01:22:20,109 --> 01:22:22,763 with the local animals, the local species. 1486 01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:24,374 If we can work with them, 1487 01:22:24,461 --> 01:22:27,116 then it ends up becoming self-sustaining. 1488 01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:30,554 Otherwise we end up having to pay all the time to protect. 1489 01:22:30,641 --> 01:22:31,990 We have to pay for rangers, 1490 01:22:32,077 --> 01:22:33,818 we have to pay for protections systems. 1491 01:22:33,905 --> 01:22:36,952 But we can only do that if we can understand the value 1492 01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:38,692 that it's delivering to us. 1493 01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:41,739 Otherwise what is the cost of doing that? 1494 01:22:41,826 --> 01:22:44,524 How do we fit that in our conversation? 1495 01:22:45,656 --> 01:22:48,528 [chimp screeching] 1496 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,325 - The chimpanzees were really very helpful in helping me 1497 01:23:03,848 --> 01:23:06,851 to convince, particularly the scientific community, 1498 01:23:06,938 --> 01:23:09,680 but other people as well, that we humans are part 1499 01:23:09,767 --> 01:23:12,248 of the animal kingdom. Because chimpanzees 1500 01:23:12,335 --> 01:23:14,163 are our closest living relatives. 1501 01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:18,428 And so when you then see similarities in behavior 1502 01:23:18,515 --> 01:23:20,082 it's pretty easy for people to say, 1503 01:23:20,169 --> 01:23:23,259 "Well yes, when chimpanzees kiss and embrace 1504 01:23:23,346 --> 01:23:26,479 "and hold hands and pat one another, 1505 01:23:26,566 --> 01:23:30,614 "they're probably feeling similar emotions to us." 1506 01:23:30,701 --> 01:23:33,486 When you see a chimpanzee mother grieving the loss 1507 01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:36,098 of her child, it's pretty easy to say, 1508 01:23:36,185 --> 01:23:39,536 "Well, the way they feel grief must be similar to ours." 1509 01:23:40,580 --> 01:23:42,713 - Jane Goodall described a phenomenon 1510 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,410 that's found in Western and Central Africa 1511 01:23:44,497 --> 01:23:46,151 called Empty Forest Syndrome. 1512 01:23:46,238 --> 01:23:48,588 And it's where the forest is standing, 1513 01:23:48,675 --> 01:23:51,113 but the wildlife has largely disappeared. 1514 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,853 Why? 1515 01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:56,161 And the answer to that is, through the indiscriminate, 1516 01:23:56,248 --> 01:23:59,773 commercial-scale hunting of wildlife for bush meat. 1517 01:23:59,860 --> 01:24:03,081 Wire snares are set to catch, maybe they're set to catch 1518 01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:06,911 small antelopes, but wire snares will catch anything. 1519 01:24:06,998 --> 01:24:09,653 Any animal that goes in that will kill itself 1520 01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:10,567 in its struggle to escape. 1521 01:24:12,264 --> 01:24:15,050 [gorilla breathing] 1522 01:24:17,748 --> 01:24:19,750 - They've already got two snares here 1523 01:24:21,230 --> 01:24:24,102 where they set their traps on the routes of the animals 1524 01:24:24,189 --> 01:24:25,625 when the animals are going this way. 1525 01:24:25,712 --> 01:24:27,845 They are going to the water. 1526 01:24:27,932 --> 01:24:30,761 So they merely locate their snares 1527 01:24:32,023 --> 01:24:33,590 where specifically on the route of the animals 1528 01:24:33,677 --> 01:24:35,592 where they usually go to water. 1529 01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:41,163 - What the poacher will do, they have a game trail, 1530 01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:43,121 and they set it across trail like that. 1531 01:24:43,208 --> 01:24:45,950 With this end attached to a tree. 1532 01:24:46,037 --> 01:24:47,691 So the animal will come through, 1533 01:24:47,778 --> 01:24:49,867 they'll be foliage put on each side to disguise it, 1534 01:24:49,954 --> 01:24:53,436 it puts its head through and it's just a slipknot. 1535 01:24:54,611 --> 01:24:57,527 And as it goes forward it just tightens, 1536 01:24:58,789 --> 01:25:00,617 and as it pulls it just strangles it. 1537 01:25:02,445 --> 01:25:04,838 Sometimes they can take hours and hours to die. 1538 01:25:08,625 --> 01:25:10,235 - And why are they set? 1539 01:25:10,322 --> 01:25:11,889 They're set for bush meat. 1540 01:25:11,976 --> 01:25:14,283 The bush meat is then sold in commercial centers 1541 01:25:15,719 --> 01:25:18,461 and the people who do the poaching are making a killing. 1542 01:25:18,548 --> 01:25:20,158 A killing because they kill the animals. 1543 01:25:20,245 --> 01:25:22,552 But also, they didn't raise the animal, 1544 01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:25,381 they didn't have it inoculated, they didn't feed it 1545 01:25:25,468 --> 01:25:26,512 when there was a drought. 1546 01:25:26,599 --> 01:25:28,906 Their cost is simply the piece 1547 01:25:28,993 --> 01:25:32,257 of wire that they probably stole off someone else's fence 1548 01:25:32,344 --> 01:25:34,825 to kill this particular animal. 1549 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,567 And the other thing is that bush meat 1550 01:25:37,654 --> 01:25:40,700 represents a potential risk to human populations. 1551 01:25:40,787 --> 01:25:42,702 It could be riddled with anthrax. 1552 01:25:42,789 --> 01:25:46,053 So, bush meat is a killer, whichever way you look at it. 1553 01:25:46,141 --> 01:25:47,751 [tense music] 1554 01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:50,275 - If the hunting can be controlled to some extent, 1555 01:25:50,362 --> 01:25:53,148 a lot of these primate populations 1556 01:25:53,235 --> 01:25:55,106 have a good chance of surviving. 1557 01:25:55,193 --> 01:25:56,716 The big problem now 1558 01:25:56,803 --> 01:25:59,066 is this largely uncontrolled bush meat hunting. 1559 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:01,112 And it's not a subsistence issue. 1560 01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:06,161 It's really, it's a luxury trade, where chimp meat 1561 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,381 or gorilla meat or monkey meat in the capital city 1562 01:26:09,468 --> 01:26:12,428 sells for more than beef or chicken or fish, in many cases. 1563 01:26:12,515 --> 01:26:16,997 So, it's really, really hard to control. 1564 01:26:17,084 --> 01:26:20,262 Within remaining forest areas, the poaching, 1565 01:26:20,349 --> 01:26:22,568 whether it's for hunting or for wildlife trade, 1566 01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,354 it's just eliminating the vast majority 1567 01:26:25,441 --> 01:26:27,051 of species larger than a rat. 1568 01:26:30,489 --> 01:26:32,274 So, you can go into the forests in the Amazon 1569 01:26:32,361 --> 01:26:34,101 and you can go into forests, 1570 01:26:34,189 --> 01:26:36,278 certainly in Central and West Africa where there's nothing. 1571 01:26:36,365 --> 01:26:38,323 Nice forest, but nothing. 1572 01:26:40,369 --> 01:26:42,849 - [Ian] This is an animated weather map of rainfall 1573 01:26:42,936 --> 01:26:45,504 around the world, the white is water vapor, 1574 01:26:45,591 --> 01:26:48,115 the orange-y bits are storms. 1575 01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:50,292 And every day it rains in the Congo basin, 1576 01:26:50,379 --> 01:26:52,511 so that big pulsing in the middle of Africa 1577 01:26:52,598 --> 01:26:54,296 is the daily rainfall. 1578 01:26:54,383 --> 01:26:57,342 We're all benefiting from the ecosystem services 1579 01:26:57,429 --> 01:26:59,866 provided by these forests in the tropics. 1580 01:27:01,041 --> 01:27:03,000 And the animals that play a keystone role 1581 01:27:03,087 --> 01:27:05,220 in those forests need our protection 1582 01:27:05,307 --> 01:27:06,917 because we want to continue 1583 01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:10,573 to have this global water distribution system acting 1584 01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:12,183 as sort of a biotic pump. 1585 01:27:14,316 --> 01:27:16,840 - When we started, I was basically a journalist 1586 01:27:16,927 --> 01:27:18,929 trying to start about extinction of apes. 1587 01:27:20,583 --> 01:27:23,629 It was very easy to see the consequences 1588 01:27:23,716 --> 01:27:28,721 of this illegal trade in body parts of chimps and gorillas 1589 01:27:30,767 --> 01:27:35,119 being sold to the rich and the powerful in Central Africa. 1590 01:27:36,425 --> 01:27:38,688 It was also very easy to see that the law 1591 01:27:38,775 --> 01:27:41,343 was never enforced because those that were actually 1592 01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:43,823 behind those trades are the same police officers 1593 01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:45,477 and wildlife officers that were in charge 1594 01:27:45,564 --> 01:27:46,957 of applying the law. 1595 01:27:47,044 --> 01:27:49,873 In fact, it was zero wildlife prosecutions 1596 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,918 for all the time the law was in place. 1597 01:27:53,746 --> 01:27:57,010 And I went on research outside of the capital, 1598 01:27:57,097 --> 01:27:59,012 where people were telling me straight: 1599 01:27:59,099 --> 01:28:02,538 "Hey, we have chimp meat being sold here and gorilla's meat 1600 01:28:02,625 --> 01:28:05,889 "being sold here, and we also have two live ones." 1601 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,847 And I said, "What is this live ones?" 1602 01:28:07,934 --> 01:28:09,632 And these are basically the survivors 1603 01:28:09,719 --> 01:28:11,895 of the bush meat trade, the survivors of the killing 1604 01:28:11,982 --> 01:28:13,157 of their entire family. 1605 01:28:14,811 --> 01:28:17,901 So, a poacher can kill different family of apes, 1606 01:28:17,988 --> 01:28:19,642 family of chimps, let's say. 1607 01:28:19,729 --> 01:28:22,209 Then he would have a baby chimp. 1608 01:28:22,297 --> 01:28:25,038 A baby chimp stays on the back of its mother 1609 01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:27,084 for the first three years of his life. 1610 01:28:27,171 --> 01:28:31,393 So if the mother falls from the tree dead, the baby, 1611 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,917 dependent, doesn't run away, he just clings 1612 01:28:34,004 --> 01:28:37,616 to the mother's body and starts crying. 1613 01:28:37,703 --> 01:28:39,488 Poachers will hold in his hand. 1614 01:28:40,619 --> 01:28:42,491 Maybe he could kill it for the meat on it, 1615 01:28:42,578 --> 01:28:45,102 and sell the meat, or maybe he can sell, 1616 01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:47,191 or let's try my luck in the pet trade. 1617 01:28:50,020 --> 01:28:52,414 So, here I was in front of traffickers who were trying 1618 01:28:52,501 --> 01:28:57,114 to sell me a baby chimp, abused, tiny, 1619 01:28:57,201 --> 01:29:00,509 one and half years old baby, about to die. 1620 01:29:01,684 --> 01:29:03,642 I went to the wildlife station and I said, 1621 01:29:03,729 --> 01:29:05,905 "Listen, apply the law, there is a baby chimp here 1622 01:29:05,992 --> 01:29:09,344 that can be saved, this baby chimp can outlive me. 1623 01:29:10,693 --> 01:29:13,957 "So, please let's do something, let's get the law applied." 1624 01:29:14,044 --> 01:29:16,089 All they wanted was bribes. 1625 01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:19,354 I knew I had to do something. 1626 01:29:19,441 --> 01:29:23,227 Because all of this anger I had against corruption, 1627 01:29:23,314 --> 01:29:26,143 lack of application of the law, was right now 1628 01:29:26,230 --> 01:29:29,364 in the face of this baby chimp. 1629 01:29:31,366 --> 01:29:33,629 The following morning I took a book of law, 1630 01:29:33,716 --> 01:29:36,240 I went to the big house of these traffickers, 1631 01:29:36,327 --> 01:29:38,895 and I showed them, three years imprisonment. 1632 01:29:40,157 --> 01:29:41,854 And they were totally unimpressed. 1633 01:29:43,378 --> 01:29:46,119 And I said, "Well, you know I know this is nothing for you, 1634 01:29:46,206 --> 01:29:49,688 because with three dollars bribe you can get away with it." 1635 01:29:51,081 --> 01:29:52,865 Then I started bluffing them. 1636 01:29:52,952 --> 01:29:55,085 And I said, "I am part of this huge, big international NGO, 1637 01:29:55,172 --> 01:29:57,696 and we are here to fight corruption, 1638 01:29:57,783 --> 01:29:59,829 to get the law applied, that's my new job." 1639 01:29:59,916 --> 01:30:01,265 And at that point they just wanted 1640 01:30:01,352 --> 01:30:03,267 to get rid of the baby chimp. 1641 01:30:03,354 --> 01:30:07,489 I untied him from his ropes, and I stretched my arms out, 1642 01:30:07,576 --> 01:30:11,144 and he just climbed my body and gave me one big hug. 1643 01:30:12,581 --> 01:30:17,150 Once I gave him a hug, he was again transformed, 1644 01:30:18,369 --> 01:30:19,892 back to a baby, a baby with emotional needs. 1645 01:30:21,981 --> 01:30:25,420 And that hug became a permanent hug, 1646 01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:28,423 because this baby chimp basically adopted me. 1647 01:30:29,380 --> 01:30:32,122 [chimp laughing] 1648 01:30:42,828 --> 01:30:45,004 [metal clinking] 1649 01:30:45,091 --> 01:30:47,442 So, I called this baby chimp 'Future'. 1650 01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:49,226 And I realized at that point, 1651 01:30:49,313 --> 01:30:50,880 that I can actually fight 1652 01:30:50,967 --> 01:30:54,231 not just for a future of a small, one baby chimp, 1653 01:30:54,318 --> 01:30:55,928 but for the future of his species. 1654 01:30:56,015 --> 01:30:58,278 We are in the middle of a fight, a serious fight. 1655 01:30:59,497 --> 01:31:01,412 But I can get a good night's sleep 1656 01:31:01,499 --> 01:31:04,981 if I know that we got one more major trafficker behind bars, 1657 01:31:05,068 --> 01:31:06,939 one more official, corrupt official 1658 01:31:07,026 --> 01:31:08,724 that actually paid for his crimes. 1659 01:31:15,818 --> 01:31:20,083 - It's commercial gangs, organized commercial gangs 1660 01:31:20,170 --> 01:31:22,477 of meat poachers, doing it for profit, 1661 01:31:22,564 --> 01:31:24,479 'cause it's something for nothing. 1662 01:31:24,566 --> 01:31:26,045 And it's the big cattle barons. 1663 01:31:26,132 --> 01:31:28,526 What you have to remember about East Africa 1664 01:31:28,613 --> 01:31:30,963 is that it's the Wild West. 1665 01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:33,009 You know, you ever seen a cowboy movie? 1666 01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:34,793 What's it all about? 1667 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,927 You know, move west, young man, there's gold down there. 1668 01:31:38,014 --> 01:31:39,972 And in the cowboy movies you see them. 1669 01:31:40,059 --> 01:31:42,409 With these huge herds of cattle moving. And in front 1670 01:31:42,497 --> 01:31:46,196 of that stock everything had to go, Native American tribes, 1671 01:31:46,283 --> 01:31:49,765 wild animals, forests, rivers, whatever, it was destroyed. 1672 01:31:49,852 --> 01:31:51,549 And that's what's happening to us. 1673 01:31:54,204 --> 01:31:55,292 - So we're protecting gorillas, 1674 01:31:55,379 --> 01:31:56,598 we're protecting elephants, 1675 01:31:56,685 --> 01:31:57,599 we're trying to protect orangutans. 1676 01:31:57,686 --> 01:31:59,339 But we're losing. 1677 01:31:59,426 --> 01:32:01,516 Because when we raise money for NGOs, for organizations 1678 01:32:01,603 --> 01:32:03,953 to support the efforts of government agencies 1679 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,651 that are trying to protect these forests. 1680 01:32:06,738 --> 01:32:09,436 We're thinking in terms of tens, or hundreds of thousands, 1681 01:32:09,524 --> 01:32:11,656 bigger NGOs maybe low millions. 1682 01:32:11,743 --> 01:32:15,442 At the same time corporations are spending billions 1683 01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:19,316 of dollars to develop those same lands. 1684 01:32:19,403 --> 01:32:21,623 And the Ministers that come to our UN meetings 1685 01:32:21,710 --> 01:32:24,887 and sign agreements to protect apes, are often trumped 1686 01:32:24,974 --> 01:32:27,629 by the more powerful Ministers of Agriculture 1687 01:32:27,716 --> 01:32:30,153 and Land Development, who want the mines to develop 1688 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,981 or want the roads to be put through the forest. 1689 01:32:32,068 --> 01:32:34,940 Even though opening the forest begins the degradation 1690 01:32:35,027 --> 01:32:37,247 that results in extinction. 1691 01:32:37,334 --> 01:32:40,076 [dramatic music] 1692 01:32:44,428 --> 01:32:46,996 - [Eric] With elephant tusks and with rhino horns, 1693 01:32:47,083 --> 01:32:50,869 it's a more complicated issue, it really is, it's a war. 1694 01:32:53,263 --> 01:32:56,527 A place like Kafue is kind of ground zero in that war. 1695 01:32:56,614 --> 01:32:59,312 And the only way that the Zambian government 1696 01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:02,359 is going to win that war is with help from outside 1697 01:33:02,446 --> 01:33:05,362 and with devoting more resources itself. 1698 01:33:08,626 --> 01:33:10,759 I think it's very positive that the government 1699 01:33:10,846 --> 01:33:13,762 understands that it has a crisis and that it needs 1700 01:33:13,849 --> 01:33:15,677 to take drastic measures to address it. 1701 01:33:15,764 --> 01:33:17,940 And certainly deploying the Zambian military 1702 01:33:18,027 --> 01:33:21,465 to deal with poaching would be a drastic measure. 1703 01:33:21,552 --> 01:33:23,772 But it could be that the situation merits that. 1704 01:33:23,859 --> 01:33:27,776 That it needs to take such as drastic step. 1705 01:33:28,733 --> 01:33:31,475 [peaceful music] 1706 01:33:45,141 --> 01:33:48,187 - I don't think it's a question of them not caring 1707 01:33:48,274 --> 01:33:50,189 about the wildlife. I think it's a question 1708 01:33:50,276 --> 01:33:54,498 of them not knowing what is going on with their wildlife. 1709 01:33:56,152 --> 01:33:59,634 I'd like to think that as proud Africans and proud Zambians, 1710 01:33:59,721 --> 01:34:02,158 our life is more important than money. 1711 01:34:03,942 --> 01:34:06,336 How can we get the community to be involved 1712 01:34:06,423 --> 01:34:09,992 to benefit from safari hunting? 1713 01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:12,516 So, that they're not tempted to poach? 1714 01:34:23,048 --> 01:34:28,053 [splashing] [birds squawking] 1715 01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:34,103 We were sitting at the camp and I was sitting 1716 01:34:34,190 --> 01:34:38,934 near the radio, and a game scout radioed in to say 1717 01:34:39,021 --> 01:34:44,026 that he heard four shots, and of course, the game scouts 1718 01:34:46,419 --> 01:34:50,946 were told to go and investigate what was happening. 1719 01:34:51,033 --> 01:34:53,470 And the game scouts went and they spent a night 1720 01:34:53,557 --> 01:34:55,124 in the bush and the following morning 1721 01:34:55,211 --> 01:34:57,300 they found the elephants. 1722 01:34:57,387 --> 01:34:59,824 And it was a long weekend, so I think 1723 01:34:59,911 --> 01:35:01,826 that was a Sunday when the shots were heard, 1724 01:35:01,913 --> 01:35:03,523 the four shots were heard. 1725 01:35:03,610 --> 01:35:06,788 And the Monday morning, the game scouts reported, 1726 01:35:06,875 --> 01:35:09,312 and we heard over the radio that it was reported 1727 01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:11,967 that they found three elephant down. 1728 01:35:12,054 --> 01:35:14,317 And so I jumped into my car 1729 01:35:14,404 --> 01:35:16,972 and I followed the game scouts to go 1730 01:35:17,059 --> 01:35:18,538 and see what was happening. 1731 01:35:18,625 --> 01:35:21,498 And I took the pictures, and I was so devastated. 1732 01:35:21,585 --> 01:35:22,847 - [Ranger] So this poor thing 1733 01:35:22,934 --> 01:35:25,241 has been suffering the whole time? 1734 01:35:28,157 --> 01:35:30,812 [flies buzzing] 1735 01:35:34,641 --> 01:35:37,644 [elephant groaning] 1736 01:35:43,825 --> 01:35:45,565 - I was weeping openly. 1737 01:35:45,652 --> 01:35:47,742 The game scouts were horrified. 1738 01:35:47,829 --> 01:35:50,179 I don't think there was not one person who stood there, 1739 01:35:50,266 --> 01:35:53,530 including the game scouts, that didn't drop a tear. 1740 01:35:53,617 --> 01:35:55,662 It was beyond everybody. 1741 01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:57,839 It was so, so sad. 1742 01:35:57,926 --> 01:36:00,363 Especially that she was a lactating mother. 1743 01:36:00,450 --> 01:36:03,192 She was a lactating mother with two small babies. 1744 01:36:03,279 --> 01:36:05,020 The tusks were barely that size. 1745 01:36:05,107 --> 01:36:08,066 They killed an elephant that takes a gestation 1746 01:36:08,153 --> 01:36:11,722 of 18 months and in another eighteen months 1747 01:36:11,809 --> 01:36:13,942 to make a tusk that size. 1748 01:36:14,029 --> 01:36:16,814 Even the game scouts were devastated. 1749 01:36:16,901 --> 01:36:19,643 [dramatic music] 1750 01:36:22,951 --> 01:36:26,868 - That is actual slaughter of an elephant that is put down, 1751 01:36:26,955 --> 01:36:30,175 still alive as the tusk is carved out of its face. 1752 01:36:30,262 --> 01:36:34,136 Purely so that you can have a trinket, right? 1753 01:36:34,223 --> 01:36:36,355 It's beautiful artwork. 1754 01:36:36,442 --> 01:36:38,749 This craftsmanship is exquisite, 1755 01:36:38,836 --> 01:36:41,665 but they used a critically endangered species to do it. 1756 01:36:44,450 --> 01:36:49,455 Wildlife crime is a crime that is very low risk 1757 01:36:50,326 --> 01:36:51,806 and very high monetary value. 1758 01:36:51,893 --> 01:36:53,459 It's currently estimated 1759 01:36:53,546 --> 01:36:56,027 at a nineteen billion dollar industry, annually. 1760 01:36:56,114 --> 01:36:59,639 And the fact that the sentence really is just a slap 1761 01:36:59,726 --> 01:37:01,598 on the wrist for people that are making millions 1762 01:37:01,685 --> 01:37:04,253 and millions of dollars off of everybody's wildlife. 1763 01:37:07,691 --> 01:37:10,346 - Well, you know, the sad thing is they will shoot them 1764 01:37:10,433 --> 01:37:13,044 in the knees to slow them down or to try 1765 01:37:13,131 --> 01:37:14,785 to stop them from charging. 1766 01:37:14,872 --> 01:37:16,831 You know because this, it's not likely they're gonna 1767 01:37:16,918 --> 01:37:18,658 get this into the brain, but they can get it into the legs 1768 01:37:18,745 --> 01:37:20,356 to maybe make them stumble, 1769 01:37:20,443 --> 01:37:22,793 fall and not be able to charge them or trample them. 1770 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,316 Because it doesn't take much to, 1771 01:37:24,403 --> 01:37:27,798 you know, what does an elephant weigh, a ton? 1772 01:37:27,885 --> 01:37:29,147 - Eight. - Eight tons. 1773 01:37:29,234 --> 01:37:30,801 That thing steps on you, you're dead. 1774 01:37:30,888 --> 01:37:33,717 So, I would imagine that's probably with an AK 1775 01:37:33,804 --> 01:37:35,545 that's probably their best effort is to just try 1776 01:37:35,632 --> 01:37:37,852 to shoot the legs to get 'em to stop. 1777 01:37:37,939 --> 01:37:41,159 And then I don't, from what I've heard they 1778 01:37:41,246 --> 01:37:43,640 just go up and they just basically take a machete 1779 01:37:43,727 --> 01:37:46,295 or chainsaw and it's like, man, I don't. 1780 01:37:46,382 --> 01:37:47,905 How somebody could do something 1781 01:37:47,992 --> 01:37:50,386 like that I just don't know. 1782 01:37:51,953 --> 01:37:53,389 - [Azad] The animals being driven 1783 01:37:53,476 --> 01:37:55,826 to extinction affects everything. 1784 01:37:55,913 --> 01:37:57,654 This is a not an African problem. 1785 01:37:57,741 --> 01:37:59,874 But everyone says" "Poaching is a problem for Africa." 1786 01:37:59,961 --> 01:38:01,136 No, it's not. 1787 01:38:01,223 --> 01:38:02,137 No, it's not. 1788 01:38:02,224 --> 01:38:03,312 This affects you. 1789 01:38:06,576 --> 01:38:10,928 - [Jane] The current rate of killing of elephants 1790 01:38:11,015 --> 01:38:14,627 is actually worse than in the 1980s, 1791 01:38:14,714 --> 01:38:17,456 because the price of ivory has soared. 1792 01:38:17,543 --> 01:38:18,849 You know so many elephants, 1793 01:38:18,936 --> 01:38:20,372 they're reckoning one elephant 1794 01:38:20,459 --> 01:38:22,679 every 15 minutes across Africa. 1795 01:38:22,766 --> 01:38:25,464 And this is completely unsustainable. 1796 01:38:25,551 --> 01:38:27,510 So, that some populations are already 1797 01:38:27,597 --> 01:38:29,512 on the road to extinction. 1798 01:38:29,599 --> 01:38:34,604 And if we don't stop this terrible poaching soon, 1799 01:38:35,735 --> 01:38:38,869 we may actually lose this most extraordinary 1800 01:38:38,956 --> 01:38:41,437 and amazing of land mammals. 1801 01:38:47,095 --> 01:38:50,707 - I think we are coming to a cultural change here. 1802 01:38:50,794 --> 01:38:54,145 One of those changes is collaboration. 1803 01:38:54,232 --> 01:38:56,408 What we now need to do is have a Renaissance 1804 01:38:56,495 --> 01:38:59,237 of bringing people back together. 1805 01:39:08,943 --> 01:39:13,251 [laughs] [speaking Sangho language] 1806 01:39:13,338 --> 01:39:18,169 We are part of a system here and not just some being 1807 01:39:18,256 --> 01:39:19,866 that can control nature. 1808 01:39:19,954 --> 01:39:21,520 We can't control nature. 1809 01:39:21,607 --> 01:39:23,305 We're part of nature. 1810 01:40:35,768 --> 01:40:39,381 [somber, mysterious music] 137979

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