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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,379 --> 00:00:14,513 She commutes 20 miles to court each trial day 2 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:16,915 and remains a puzzle to the last. 3 00:00:17,018 --> 00:00:19,351 She tells the jury of the horrors of kidnapping, 4 00:00:19,453 --> 00:00:23,655 of being terrified, brainwashed. Her lawyer says, by the sla 5 00:00:23,758 --> 00:00:25,824 is that the truth, or is she lying? 6 00:00:28,829 --> 00:00:31,163 It sent shock waves around the world, 7 00:00:31,265 --> 00:00:33,232 and the repercussions are certain to be felt 8 00:00:33,334 --> 00:00:35,100 for years to come. 9 00:00:37,071 --> 00:00:39,471 When the children started talking about robes and candles, 10 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:41,540 you could see that it had to be satanic. 11 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:45,644 We are continuing to examine evidence 12 00:00:45,746 --> 00:00:48,480 following up on a substantial... -Wanted by the FBI 13 00:00:48,582 --> 00:00:50,549 as a criminal instead of a victim. 14 00:00:54,121 --> 00:00:55,888 The shocker. It was stunning. 15 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:57,389 I have seen ambulances. 16 00:00:57,491 --> 00:00:59,491 I cannot tell you if there have been any injuries. 17 00:00:59,593 --> 00:01:01,126 It's an evil act of terror. 18 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:04,129 19 00:01:04,231 --> 00:01:07,099 20 00:01:07,201 --> 00:01:08,767 I was 15 years old. 21 00:01:08,869 --> 00:01:10,436 My dad was a surgeon 22 00:01:10,538 --> 00:01:14,339 and my mom was trained and worked as a nurse, 23 00:01:14,442 --> 00:01:18,110 but was a homemaker. 24 00:01:18,212 --> 00:01:21,246 We attended Carmichael seventh-day adventist church. 25 00:01:21,348 --> 00:01:26,685 My mom was actually a volunteer clerk for the church. 26 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:30,022 That day, my mom had been called from the church, 27 00:01:30,157 --> 00:01:32,524 saying that one of the other volunteers that was scheduled 28 00:01:32,626 --> 00:01:35,994 to do the bank deposit wasn't able to make it, 29 00:01:36,097 --> 00:01:39,498 so if my mom would fill in for her, that'd be great. 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,468 She went to the church, met two other volunteers there 31 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:45,771 to prepare the deposit, and made their way to 32 00:01:45,873 --> 00:01:48,640 Crocker national bank in Carmichael. 33 00:01:51,178 --> 00:01:55,914 I was about 19, and I was a loan officer assistant. 34 00:01:56,016 --> 00:01:59,118 I was extremely conservative. 35 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:01,053 You know, I liked The Beach Boys, 36 00:02:01,155 --> 00:02:02,921 I liked The Carpenters. 37 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:06,225 I didn't have aspirations to do much more 38 00:02:06,327 --> 00:02:11,063 than be a secretary assistant and just live my life 39 00:02:11,165 --> 00:02:14,199 and have the white picket fence and have my kids. 40 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:19,138 I was standing at the back counter, 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,074 fairly close to the back door. 42 00:02:22,176 --> 00:02:24,042 They opened the door for Mrs. Opsahl. 43 00:02:24,145 --> 00:02:26,378 She came in. 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,647 I knew her as a customer. 45 00:02:28,749 --> 00:02:35,387 I just remember her as a very quiet, nice, older lady. 46 00:02:35,489 --> 00:02:38,223 And then a woman came through the back door 47 00:02:38,325 --> 00:02:41,860 and several other people in black ski masks 48 00:02:41,962 --> 00:02:48,233 with military jackets on, with a 12-Gauge shotgun. 49 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:51,770 The woman wielded the shotgun around, 50 00:02:51,872 --> 00:02:54,072 and it went off... 51 00:02:54,175 --> 00:02:56,475 ...and shot Mrs. Opsahl. 52 00:03:01,015 --> 00:03:04,616 She was about five feet from me. 53 00:03:04,718 --> 00:03:07,419 And then the violence started, 54 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:12,291 so I dropped, and I laid there with my eyes shut. 55 00:03:12,393 --> 00:03:14,893 They literally were saying, 56 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:18,030 "we're going to blow your mother heads off. 57 00:03:18,132 --> 00:03:19,398 You need to get down, 58 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:22,100 or we're going to kill you all right now." 59 00:03:22,203 --> 00:03:25,537 They were clicking shotguns on the back of your head, 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,542 to make it sound like you were gonna get your head blown off. 61 00:03:30,644 --> 00:03:32,544 And then they were gone, and they told us 62 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:36,648 to keep our heads down and count to 60. 63 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:40,352 Mrs. Opsahl was moaning on the ground next to us. 64 00:03:40,454 --> 00:03:43,922 We went to the kitchen and got a bunch of towels 65 00:03:44,024 --> 00:03:46,858 to try to stop the bleeding. 66 00:03:46,961 --> 00:03:52,364 A 12-Gauge shotgun at fairly close range... 67 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:56,435 Will take out most of the person. 68 00:03:56,537 --> 00:04:04,409 When we got the towels to put on the wounds, 69 00:04:04,511 --> 00:04:06,345 they just went through her. 70 00:04:14,221 --> 00:04:17,456 We were the first bank in the state of California 71 00:04:17,558 --> 00:04:19,591 that someone was actually murdered at. 72 00:04:19,693 --> 00:04:22,361 They didn't even have cameras in the bank. 73 00:04:22,463 --> 00:04:24,296 They didn't have guards in the bank, 74 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:26,732 so they got away with it. 75 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:29,868 No, now we have no identification of anybody. 76 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:31,770 We do not have a suspect at this time. 77 00:04:31,872 --> 00:04:33,939 We're receiving a lot of information 78 00:04:34,041 --> 00:04:35,240 that's being sorted through, 79 00:04:35,342 --> 00:04:39,344 but as of this moment, we have no suspects. 80 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:43,248 The only people robbing banks in those days 81 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:46,451 was automatic weapons were the sla 82 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:49,988 the sla was formed by a group of people who were very upset 83 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:52,958 about the way the government in the country was being run. 84 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:56,361 They wanted to start a revolution. 85 00:04:56,463 --> 00:05:00,532 We thought that it might have been the sla, 86 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:02,501 but again, because we were so remote, 87 00:05:02,603 --> 00:05:04,803 we thought, "there's no way that this terrorist group 88 00:05:04,905 --> 00:05:07,739 is going to come all the way to Carmichael." 89 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:09,408 The sla came from white people 90 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:11,476 who wanted to help people in prison. 91 00:05:11,578 --> 00:05:17,482 They were an odd mix of people, but very typical of the left. 92 00:05:17,584 --> 00:05:19,818 It was post-Vietnam, 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,755 so a lot of people my age were pretty despondent 94 00:05:23,857 --> 00:05:26,325 because the revolution had not come. 95 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:29,461 You know, we expected to change the world in 1968, 96 00:05:29,563 --> 00:05:31,163 and it didn't happen. 97 00:05:31,265 --> 00:05:34,599 We were very despondent with the country. 98 00:05:34,702 --> 00:05:36,768 There were people who believed in armed struggle. 99 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:42,074 Every other day, it seemed like bombs were being set off. 100 00:05:42,176 --> 00:05:44,209 It was a crazy, crazy time. 101 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:51,149 The sla became totally isolated and only heard 102 00:05:51,251 --> 00:05:55,587 their own rhetoric, and that's a deadly, deadly combination. 103 00:06:05,099 --> 00:06:07,566 The father of 19-year-old Patricia Hearst said today 104 00:06:07,668 --> 00:06:10,068 that he hopes that his daughter still is alive. 105 00:06:10,170 --> 00:06:13,372 19-year-old Patricia Hearst lived in this apartment. 106 00:06:13,474 --> 00:06:15,307 Police say about 9:00 last night, 107 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:16,808 a young woman knocked on her door 108 00:06:16,877 --> 00:06:19,244 saying her car had been in an accident. 109 00:06:19,346 --> 00:06:22,347 When she opened the door, two armed men burst in. 110 00:06:22,449 --> 00:06:24,383 Well, I heard a scream, and then I heard 111 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:25,684 what were gunshots. 112 00:06:25,786 --> 00:06:29,454 Well, I heard her pleading, "please, no. Not me." 113 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:33,425 We had visited Hearst castle not too long before then, 114 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:36,862 and we learned about the publishing empire 115 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:39,431 that Patty Hearst's grandfather had built. 116 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:41,833 I understood that the person kidnapped was 117 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:46,238 the granddaughter of the builder of that empire. 118 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:49,307 I couldn't imagine something so bizarre 119 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:50,942 happening so suddenly, 120 00:06:51,044 --> 00:06:53,245 and what would I do in that situation? 121 00:06:53,347 --> 00:06:56,348 It wasn't until Thursday that communique was received 122 00:06:56,450 --> 00:06:59,084 from the symbionese liberation army. 123 00:06:59,186 --> 00:07:02,454 It said they are holding Ms. Hearst a prisoner of war. 124 00:07:02,556 --> 00:07:04,723 The letter said Ms. Hearst was unharmed, 125 00:07:04,825 --> 00:07:07,392 but would be killed if authorities tried to rescue her. 126 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:12,864 The media's response was the most sensational response 127 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:15,734 we've ever seen, I think, at least in the bay area. 128 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:19,871 Everything they did was major, major news all the time, 129 00:07:19,973 --> 00:07:23,742 and I've never seen a media response to anything like that. 130 00:07:23,844 --> 00:07:25,744 And the sla, at least, 131 00:07:25,846 --> 00:07:28,046 knew that they were getting media attention 132 00:07:28,148 --> 00:07:30,382 and had the floor with these communiques 133 00:07:30,484 --> 00:07:32,551 that would be played to the country. 134 00:07:32,653 --> 00:07:34,786 Finally, the sla demands arrived, 135 00:07:34,888 --> 00:07:36,388 and along with them, a document 136 00:07:36,490 --> 00:07:39,257 containing the symbionese liberation program. 137 00:07:39,359 --> 00:07:42,027 It's a declaration of revolutionary war 138 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:44,563 that states their agenda to fight and die 139 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:47,065 to win the freedom of oppressed poor people. 140 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:49,801 It rallies them to unite as a fighting force 141 00:07:49,903 --> 00:07:53,538 that will destroy the capitalist state and all it stands for. 142 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,540 The manifesto says they will help women 143 00:07:55,642 --> 00:07:59,010 find new and better roles and live as free people. 144 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:00,946 The prison system should be destroyed 145 00:08:01,048 --> 00:08:03,849 and the prisoners welcomed home with love. 146 00:08:03,951 --> 00:08:07,486 The sla also calls for all state lands and buildings 147 00:08:07,588 --> 00:08:10,489 of the capitalist class to be returned to the people 148 00:08:10,591 --> 00:08:12,457 and for the rent system to end. 149 00:08:24,404 --> 00:08:27,606 In a letter to Randolph Hearst, the symbionese liberation army 150 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:30,141 said it would hold his daughter until he provided 151 00:08:30,244 --> 00:08:33,411 each of the nearly two million poor people in California 152 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,914 with $70 worth of free food. 153 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:37,115 The letter was accompanied by 154 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:39,117 a tape recording from Patricia Hearst. 155 00:09:20,193 --> 00:09:24,195 We love you, Patty, and we're all praying for you. 156 00:09:24,298 --> 00:09:27,832 I'm sorry I'm crying, but I'm happy you're safe. 157 00:09:27,935 --> 00:09:30,135 Mr. Hearst said he took the recording as proof 158 00:09:30,237 --> 00:09:31,970 that his daughter is alive, 159 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:33,905 and he said he would try to meet the demands. 160 00:09:34,007 --> 00:09:35,440 It was good to feed people 161 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:37,576 and have the Hearst family do that, 162 00:09:37,678 --> 00:09:40,979 but again, the way it was done, by kidnapping his daughter, 163 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:45,216 was kind of not good, obviously. 164 00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:47,252 She clearly moved towards the group 165 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:48,987 as the communiques progressed. 166 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:11,943 8th grade history class, we would have a current events, 167 00:10:12,045 --> 00:10:16,681 and over that course of the year, I just gravitated towards 168 00:10:16,783 --> 00:10:21,086 the story of Patty Hearst and the sla 169 00:10:21,188 --> 00:10:25,023 when I first was reporting on the story, I sympathized, 170 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:29,160 and then the sympathy quickly turned to anger 171 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:33,064 and just bewilderment -- like, how could someone make 172 00:10:33,166 --> 00:10:37,035 that kind of change in their world view? 173 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:40,705 I had no idea that I was going to 174 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:45,410 soon become part of that story, tragically. 175 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:50,181 I think even the left that didn't support the sla 176 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:51,750 thought it was a triumph, 177 00:10:51,852 --> 00:10:56,087 because the Hearsts represented the essence of capitalism 178 00:10:56,189 --> 00:10:57,355 and then many of the things we thought 179 00:10:57,457 --> 00:10:58,690 that were wrong in the world, 180 00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:02,327 and the fact that one of their own could change sides -- 181 00:11:02,429 --> 00:11:05,063 there was a sense of romanticism in this, 182 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:07,232 of her joining her captors. 183 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:09,901 Looking now, I think that's ludicrous, 184 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,503 but I think many of us, including me, 185 00:11:11,605 --> 00:11:14,305 felt it was a good thing that she joined. 186 00:11:14,408 --> 00:11:18,710 I'd say she was a member of the sla, in my opinion. 187 00:11:18,812 --> 00:11:21,012 Voluntarily? No. 188 00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:24,983 I think they turned her into somebody else by torturing her. 189 00:11:25,085 --> 00:11:27,419 We were pretty sure that she had Stockholm syndrome, 190 00:11:27,521 --> 00:11:29,521 where a victim identifies 191 00:11:29,623 --> 00:11:31,790 with the perpetrators of the kidnapping. 192 00:11:46,173 --> 00:11:50,675 Hibernia bank robbery. That was a publicity stunt. 193 00:11:50,777 --> 00:11:52,077 It was a big deal, in the sense that 194 00:11:52,179 --> 00:11:55,880 Patty was put front and center with a submachine gun 195 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:58,616 as their poster girl for the revolution. 196 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:05,824 You absolutely saw the hand ready to pull the trigger? 197 00:12:05,926 --> 00:12:07,959 I would say the stance would say that she did 198 00:12:08,028 --> 00:12:09,627 have her hands on the trigger 199 00:12:09,730 --> 00:12:12,630 and ready to shoot anything you got in her way. 200 00:12:12,733 --> 00:12:16,201 Eyewitnesses say the girl identified as Patricia Hearst 201 00:12:16,303 --> 00:12:19,938 stood right about here, with her gun pointed so, 202 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,139 her right hand either 203 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:24,342 near the trigger of the gun or in her pocket, 204 00:12:24,478 --> 00:12:26,578 and they say her gun was aimed at 205 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:30,682 between five and eight bank employees and customers, 206 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:33,351 who were ordered face down on the floor of the bank 207 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:34,986 behind these counters. 208 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:37,856 When Patricia Hearst got kidnapped, 209 00:12:37,958 --> 00:12:40,125 I felt like that was a horrible thing, 210 00:12:40,227 --> 00:12:42,927 so I didn't understand why Patty Hearst 211 00:12:43,029 --> 00:12:46,131 was in that bank holding a weapon 212 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:48,233 and pointing it at people and threatening them. 213 00:12:48,335 --> 00:12:52,237 It angered me, because it was such a terrible thing, 214 00:12:52,339 --> 00:12:54,472 and yet here she was, doing that. 215 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:05,150 They escaped. The FBI was looking for them. 216 00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:12,157 The FBI and the LAPD figured out 217 00:13:12,259 --> 00:13:15,794 through this parking ticket where the sla was in L.A. 218 00:13:15,896 --> 00:13:17,162 And people in the neighborhood, 219 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:19,264 the African-American, poor neighborhood, 220 00:13:19,366 --> 00:13:20,832 told the police that there was this group 221 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:22,567 of weird white people there. 222 00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:24,536 Everything happened in a frantic two hours 223 00:13:24,638 --> 00:13:26,738 just before sundown last night. 224 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,942 500 policemen and FBI agents. 225 00:13:31,044 --> 00:13:33,244 It was a massive operation. 226 00:13:33,346 --> 00:13:35,847 And then the shooting began. 227 00:13:40,654 --> 00:13:42,754 We need all the ammo that we've got in the safe. 228 00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:44,022 We're taking automatic fire 229 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:45,590 front and back from this location. 230 00:13:45,692 --> 00:13:47,292 They're much better-armed than we are. 231 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:51,229 These people had a veritable arsenal inside that home. 232 00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:54,132 That was probably the most rounds 233 00:13:54,234 --> 00:13:56,234 fired in a firefight 234 00:13:56,336 --> 00:14:00,205 in the United States, in its history. 235 00:14:00,307 --> 00:14:03,608 Seven barrages of tear gas, and still no surrender. 236 00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:05,143 Then the house burst into flames, 237 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:06,978 perhaps from a tear gas grenade. 238 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,147 It was no effort to put out the fire. 239 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:11,482 The gun battle continued. 240 00:14:11,585 --> 00:14:13,384 It looks like the Los Angeles police have 241 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:17,255 indeed found the hideout of the symbionese liberation army, 242 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,257 and there's not much left of it now. 243 00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:20,658 Apparently, they haven't been able 244 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,863 to get any of the suspects out of the house. 245 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:26,030 I watched the shootout. 246 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:28,566 I think almost everybody I knew did. 247 00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:30,735 It was surreal. 248 00:14:30,837 --> 00:14:34,939 It was really sad that this was gonna be the ending of... 249 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:36,875 We didn't know who was in the house. 250 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:42,614 One white woman still has not been identified. 251 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:44,215 The big concern was, 252 00:14:44,317 --> 00:14:47,952 was Patty Hearst killed in the firefight? 253 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:57,629 Tonight, may 18th, reported by Tom Brokaw. 254 00:14:57,731 --> 00:14:58,997 Good evening. 255 00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:02,100 Patricia Hearst was not killed in a police raid 256 00:15:02,202 --> 00:15:03,668 on a symbionese liberation army 257 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:05,470 hideout in Los Angeles last night. 258 00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:07,305 The fact remains that Patricia Hearst 259 00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:09,874 has been missing now for 104 days, 260 00:15:09,976 --> 00:15:12,410 and her whereabouts are still unknown. 261 00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:15,914 Patty Hearst is now listed by the FBI as a fugitive, 262 00:15:16,016 --> 00:15:19,183 armed and dangerous. 263 00:15:19,286 --> 00:15:22,654 She is believed still in or around Los Angeles. 264 00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:24,522 Police, for the last couple of days, 265 00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:26,391 have been moving from stakeout to stakeout, 266 00:15:26,493 --> 00:15:29,827 following one lead then another, trying to find her 267 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:32,096 and the few other sla members who remain. 268 00:15:32,198 --> 00:15:33,898 Two of the remaining fugitive members 269 00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:35,500 of the symbionese liberation army 270 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:37,936 are William Harris and his wife, Emily. 271 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:39,904 Bill Harris was a marine, 272 00:15:40,006 --> 00:15:43,308 and Emily was a schoolteacher from Indiana. 273 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:46,711 Bill and Emily and Patty came back to the bay area, 274 00:15:46,813 --> 00:15:48,880 hooked up to a group of people 275 00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:52,483 who were the second organization of the sla. 276 00:15:52,585 --> 00:15:56,654 Kathy Soliah, her brother Steven, 277 00:15:56,756 --> 00:16:00,591 her boyfriend, Jim Kilgore, and Michael Bortin. 278 00:16:00,694 --> 00:16:02,827 The new group of people that came in had 279 00:16:02,929 --> 00:16:09,000 a very clear pattern of behavior to steal from 280 00:16:09,102 --> 00:16:13,871 the corporate infrastructure that they despised so much 281 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:18,977 and use that stolen money to afford weaponry, 282 00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:23,781 and then to eventually build bombs and set them off 283 00:16:23,883 --> 00:16:27,218 to send the messages that they wanted to set. 284 00:16:32,592 --> 00:16:34,759 There was a lot of tension in the group, 285 00:16:34,861 --> 00:16:35,860 from what I understand. 286 00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:37,495 People wanted different things, 287 00:16:37,597 --> 00:16:43,434 yet the decision was made to Rob a bank in Carmichael. 288 00:16:43,536 --> 00:16:47,372 How'd this group of regular people do these horrendous acts? 289 00:16:47,474 --> 00:16:51,109 How did people of my generation kidnap a girl 290 00:16:51,211 --> 00:16:54,078 and murder a wonderful woman and mother in a bank? 291 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:57,382 How did that happen? 292 00:16:57,484 --> 00:17:01,986 The police identified who the person was on the floor 293 00:17:02,088 --> 00:17:06,858 in a pool of blood, called my dad at the hospital. 294 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,529 So he drove to the bank, but by that time, 295 00:17:11,631 --> 00:17:14,265 my mom had already been taken away by the ambulance, 296 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:17,268 and he just saw a pool of blood 297 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:22,306 and then turned around, went back to the hospital. 298 00:17:22,409 --> 00:17:27,311 And he was one of three or four doctors 299 00:17:27,414 --> 00:17:30,314 that was actually working there in the E.R., 300 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:34,285 trying to regain a blood pressure and pulse. 301 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:37,088 These were other doctors that knew my dad, 302 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:39,057 of course, very well, knew my mom -- 303 00:17:39,159 --> 00:17:44,295 and the others, one by one, gave up, 304 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:46,831 and didn't know how to -- 305 00:17:46,933 --> 00:17:49,033 you know, get my dad to realize that 306 00:17:49,135 --> 00:17:53,071 she was brought in dead on arrival. 307 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:54,705 One of them intervened 308 00:17:54,808 --> 00:17:57,642 and just had to pull my dad away. 309 00:18:03,016 --> 00:18:05,349 Then I show up at the principal's office, 310 00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:10,488 and my older sister Sonia and my younger brother Roy 311 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:15,460 was pulled in, and they were as bewildered as I was. 312 00:18:15,562 --> 00:18:17,862 So we go to American river hospital 313 00:18:17,964 --> 00:18:20,331 and we're escorted up into the emergency room, 314 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:26,003 and in there, you know, my dad's all red-faced and puffy-eyed. 315 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:31,509 And then my dad just kind of mutters out, 316 00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:38,116 "it's mom, and she's --" and he says she's been shot. 317 00:18:38,218 --> 00:18:43,287 We go, "no. What? Shot? Who would shoot mom?" 318 00:18:43,389 --> 00:18:47,058 And my dad says, "she's dead." 319 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,359 And then, yeah, 320 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:51,229 that just shatters every neuron in your brain. 321 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:56,134 So my dad came home later that day 322 00:18:56,236 --> 00:18:58,870 and turned on the news to find out, 323 00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:02,206 you know, what's being reported, or have they found out anything? 324 00:19:02,308 --> 00:19:05,610 Who were the bank robbers? Had they caught them? 325 00:19:05,712 --> 00:19:09,780 But they just reported a woman in the bank was shot and killed, 326 00:19:09,883 --> 00:19:14,285 and then the news anchor saying that she was taken 327 00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:16,754 to the hospital where her husband worked, 328 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:22,093 and then they said, "but his efforts to save her failed." 329 00:19:22,195 --> 00:19:26,397 And I remember taking that wording of the report like, 330 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:31,469 "what, are you trying to blame my dad for my mom's death?" 331 00:19:31,571 --> 00:19:34,372 The sla worked on these things constantly. 332 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:36,474 It was their entire life's mission. 333 00:19:36,576 --> 00:19:39,076 It's not like they haphazardly showed up at a bank 334 00:19:39,179 --> 00:19:40,878 and ran in to steal money. 335 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,214 These things were extremely well-planned, 336 00:19:43,316 --> 00:19:45,917 and so was the escape route, and that's why they got away. 337 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:49,453 It's an Avenue, an extensive Avenue of investigation 338 00:19:49,556 --> 00:19:51,722 that we have to consider. 339 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:56,761 But this is not to imply that it's the sla, no -- 340 00:19:56,863 --> 00:19:59,864 but we have to consider that it might be 341 00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:02,533 a group type of activity. 342 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:04,402 Because it was a bank, 343 00:20:04,504 --> 00:20:06,971 the FBI took over the investigation. 344 00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:09,640 They took prints from inside the bank. 345 00:20:09,742 --> 00:20:11,642 They took witness statements. 346 00:20:11,744 --> 00:20:13,878 Sacramento sheriff's department was responsible 347 00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:18,349 for investigating the murder of Mrs. Opsahl. 348 00:20:18,451 --> 00:20:20,017 They collected her dress. 349 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,852 They did forensics on the bullets, 350 00:20:21,955 --> 00:20:23,487 but I don't think they could get specific 351 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:28,526 into batches or trace metal analysis of the actual pellets. 352 00:20:28,628 --> 00:20:30,294 Back in the days when this happened, 353 00:20:30,396 --> 00:20:33,464 there was no DNA evidence. 354 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:36,601 My dad went through a long period of grief. 355 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:42,440 He essentially cried himself to sleep every night for a year. 356 00:20:42,542 --> 00:20:47,211 I mean, the rest of us just were encouraged to get on with life 357 00:20:47,313 --> 00:20:51,382 and trust that the justice system would do its job. 358 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:54,051 So, with Patty Hearst now officially wanted 359 00:20:54,153 --> 00:20:56,254 by both the FBI and Los Angeles county 360 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:58,389 as a criminal instead of a victim, 361 00:20:58,491 --> 00:21:01,225 southern California's largest manhunt continues. 362 00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:07,331 The FBI is definitely looking for them 363 00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:12,236 in every post office across the United States. 364 00:21:12,338 --> 00:21:14,605 The pictures of Bill and Emily Harris 365 00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:18,309 are there, along with the pictures of Patty Hearst. 366 00:21:18,411 --> 00:21:23,281 I remember thinking, "jeez, why can't you get them?" 367 00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:26,284 There was an sla wanted poster for all of them, 368 00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:29,553 so I made about a dozen of those posters 369 00:21:29,656 --> 00:21:32,556 and would take it out and practice shooting my pistol 370 00:21:32,659 --> 00:21:37,128 and then skeet shoot, and it helped me get through it, 371 00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:39,697 because I did have frustration about it, 372 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:45,102 and I'll admit it, I was angry. 373 00:21:45,204 --> 00:21:49,373 As a result of that bank robbery, the sla got money. 374 00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:52,143 That money allowed them to buy bomb supplies. 375 00:21:52,245 --> 00:21:55,246 Very shortly afterwards was they came down to Los Angeles 376 00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:58,082 and built these bombs to murder police officers. 377 00:21:58,184 --> 00:22:00,451 The two bombs in Los Angeles were both discovered 378 00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:02,119 before they were triggered. 379 00:22:02,221 --> 00:22:04,955 If the officers had gotten in the cars and driven 380 00:22:05,058 --> 00:22:06,257 and the bombs were detonated, 381 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,025 many people would have been killed. 382 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:33,284 The running is over for Patricia Hearst. 383 00:22:33,386 --> 00:22:34,952 Who's in the hands of federal authorities tonight 384 00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:36,454 in San Francisco, California. 385 00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:39,890 On her way to jail in a t-shirt and reddish shag haircut. 386 00:22:39,992 --> 00:22:42,727 She smiled for photographers and appeared at ease. 387 00:22:42,829 --> 00:22:45,262 Mrs. Hearst, you must be greatly relieved. 388 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,131 Yes, all our prayers are answered. 389 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:48,532 We can hardly believe it. 390 00:22:48,634 --> 00:22:50,034 Held on half a million dollars bail. 391 00:22:50,136 --> 00:22:53,003 $500,000 bail. 392 00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:55,706 Accused of bank robbery, unlawful possession of weapons, 393 00:22:55,808 --> 00:22:57,908 and those are only federal charges. 394 00:22:58,010 --> 00:23:01,645 Mr. and Mrs. Randolph Hearst visited Patty in her jail cell, 395 00:23:01,748 --> 00:23:06,517 and then said, "she was happy. She really wants to come home." 396 00:23:06,619 --> 00:23:08,319 Asked if he would put up the money to free her, 397 00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:11,389 Mr. Hearst said, "I think so." 398 00:23:11,491 --> 00:23:13,958 I do remember being relieved that, 399 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:18,295 "good. Maybe this crazy saga is gonna be over" -- 400 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:20,865 that the truth would come out, that we'd learn the facts, 401 00:23:20,967 --> 00:23:23,567 get the evidence, and hold the people responsible 402 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:27,104 in a court of law, and we'd have justice. 403 00:23:42,522 --> 00:23:45,656 She commutes 20 miles to court each trial day, 404 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:48,058 and remains a puzzle to the last. 405 00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:50,494 She tells the jury of the horrors of kidnapping, 406 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:54,298 of being terrified, brainwashed, her lawyer says, by the sla. 407 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,833 Is that the truth, or is she lying? 408 00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:58,235 Judge Orrick admonished the 22-year-old, 409 00:23:58,337 --> 00:24:01,839 "Ms. Hearst, the nature of your conduct cannot be condoned. 410 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:03,908 You are committed to seven years." 411 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:06,911 She should have won that trial, for the hibernia bank robbery. 412 00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:08,946 I felt that she deserved to be acquitted. 413 00:24:09,048 --> 00:24:11,115 At the time of the bank robbery, she was innocent. 414 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:15,419 It's really hard to describe her in any way other than a victim. 415 00:24:15,521 --> 00:24:17,488 I mean, at some point she joined, 416 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:21,459 overtly involved herself in acts -- 417 00:24:21,561 --> 00:24:23,027 that doesn't make her responsible. 418 00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:24,662 I mean, she never asked to be kidnapped, 419 00:24:24,764 --> 00:24:28,165 and being kept in a closet 50 days can make you change. 420 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:31,836 There are techniques that are used to brainwash people 421 00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:34,138 and to turn them to your side, and the sla 422 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,574 had people aboveground that knew those techniques 423 00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:39,443 and got training from them. I know that. 424 00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:44,114 There's no way that she wanted to go underground with the sla 425 00:24:44,217 --> 00:24:46,450 for the hibernia bank robbery. 426 00:24:46,552 --> 00:24:49,453 Patty Hearst did more time than any of her kidnapers, 427 00:24:49,555 --> 00:24:50,821 which is a crazy fact, and just tells you 428 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:56,293 of how topsy-turvy the entire saga of the sla was. 429 00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:58,662 It still baffles me today, 430 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:02,399 but I think a lot of it had to do with public opinion. 431 00:25:02,502 --> 00:25:05,402 She was just a spoiled, rich kid that turned her nose up 432 00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:09,573 at everybody that was worried about her for all that time. 433 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:12,009 The hibernia bank robbery -- 434 00:25:12,111 --> 00:25:16,013 I was angry that she didn't get more than a couple years. 435 00:25:16,115 --> 00:25:20,651 I was very, very frustrated about it. 436 00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:22,820 When Patricia was in custody 437 00:25:22,922 --> 00:25:26,690 and while she's going through the hibernia bank robbery trial, 438 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:29,693 she is being interviewed by agents from the FBI 439 00:25:29,795 --> 00:25:33,631 about Crocker, and Patricia Hearst told them factually 440 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:36,567 the information about who pulled the trigger, 441 00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:41,105 who was a participant in the Crocker national bank robbery. 442 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,239 It didn't benefit us, 443 00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:46,677 because the investigators didn't trust her. 444 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:49,747 The FBI was so set against ever believing 445 00:25:49,849 --> 00:25:51,682 anything that Patty Hearst said, 446 00:25:51,784 --> 00:25:53,183 because they were prosecuting her 447 00:25:53,286 --> 00:25:55,553 and discrediting her on the stand. 448 00:26:06,165 --> 00:26:08,065 Murder is a separate crime. 449 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:11,268 They didn't have the information to charge the murders. 450 00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:15,773 All they had was the uncorroborated word 451 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:20,377 of a co-defendant, what Patricia Hearst told them. 452 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,012 I remember asking my dad the questions like, 453 00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:24,281 "how is bank robbery more important than murder? 454 00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:26,550 Why wouldn't they charge him with murder?" 455 00:26:26,652 --> 00:26:27,885 And my dad just explained that 456 00:26:27,987 --> 00:26:29,820 these are federal bank robbery charges, 457 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:33,157 and they don't have jurisdiction to try people for murder. 458 00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:35,793 That's a state jurisdiction, 459 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:38,462 and that our local district attorney just 460 00:26:38,564 --> 00:26:42,299 wasn't ready to file charges of murder on any of them yet. 461 00:26:42,401 --> 00:26:45,336 I was very hopeful that the truth would come out, 462 00:26:45,438 --> 00:26:49,573 that we'd hold the people responsible in a court of law, 463 00:26:49,675 --> 00:26:54,845 and we'd have justice for my mom's murder. 464 00:26:57,416 --> 00:27:00,150 When I testified at Steven's trial, 465 00:27:00,252 --> 00:27:02,286 I did not think I would get justice, 466 00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:04,254 that was the whole frustration for me, 467 00:27:04,357 --> 00:27:08,192 because nobody believed me but the defense, 468 00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:10,828 and they were only using me. 469 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:14,131 The police did come right away and interview us. 470 00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:16,600 I was adamant to describe to them 471 00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:19,503 that it was a woman that did the shooting, 472 00:27:19,605 --> 00:27:23,507 and they said, you know, "how could you possibly know?" 473 00:27:23,609 --> 00:27:26,410 I knew it was a woman that did it, 474 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:29,847 but I didn't know who the woman was. 475 00:27:29,949 --> 00:27:32,416 I was subpoenaed by the defense, 476 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:37,988 then had to go to court to testify for Steven, 477 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:41,025 and then there were three other tellers 478 00:27:41,127 --> 00:27:46,530 that were brought to contradict me by the prosecution. 479 00:27:46,632 --> 00:27:49,299 The Steven Soliah trial was a debacle. 480 00:27:49,402 --> 00:27:51,235 They tried to prove that Steven Soliah 481 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:53,671 was one of the people inside the bank. 482 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,507 He wasn't, and Patty Hearst had told the FBI that 483 00:27:56,609 --> 00:27:58,275 when they interviewed her. 484 00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:01,912 They chose not to believe her. 485 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:05,049 When the sla was coming into the bank, 486 00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:08,352 there was an individual that was right there 487 00:28:08,454 --> 00:28:11,121 at the same place that the perpetrators were, 488 00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:14,358 and that person, by coincidence, 489 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:17,928 was the spitting image of Steven Soliah. 490 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:20,898 So the case was prosecuted, 491 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,535 and who does the defense call as their first witness? 492 00:28:24,637 --> 00:28:27,938 They call that guy. 493 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,074 Steven Soliah was acquitted today of helping 494 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:32,943 the symbionese liberation army Rob a Sacramento bank. 495 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:36,513 So the case was lost. 496 00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:39,083 It was lost because they tried to make Patty Hearst out 497 00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:41,051 to be a liar, and she wasn't, 498 00:28:41,153 --> 00:28:45,489 so they proceeded with a theory which 499 00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:48,158 they had information was not true. 500 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,394 It was simply bungled. 501 00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:56,967 We were driving in the car when some news came up. 502 00:28:57,069 --> 00:28:59,903 I remember my dad turning up the radio and saying, 503 00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:02,573 "this is the verdict that they're going to announce," 504 00:29:02,675 --> 00:29:06,076 that maybe justice in some way could be done now, 505 00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:09,546 and then it just said that Steven Soliah is acquitted 506 00:29:09,648 --> 00:29:12,449 of the bank robbery at the Carmichael national bank 507 00:29:12,551 --> 00:29:16,820 in which a woman was killed. 508 00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,956 And my dad's just shaking his head, 509 00:29:19,058 --> 00:29:20,557 and I remember having to ask my dad, 510 00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:22,693 "what does acquitted mean?" 511 00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:27,297 He just said, "it means they got away with murder." 512 00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:32,703 If Steven had been convicted, then the Sacramento D.A. 513 00:29:32,805 --> 00:29:36,173 Would have figured that proves the sla committed the murder, 514 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,742 and then they would have gone ahead and prosecuted 515 00:29:38,844 --> 00:29:42,112 all the other sla members for the murder. 516 00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:44,615 But when Steven Soliah was not convicted, 517 00:29:44,717 --> 00:29:48,285 I think the Sacramento D.A. Wanted no part of it. 518 00:29:48,387 --> 00:29:50,587 This office has completed its investigation 519 00:29:50,689 --> 00:29:52,556 of the bank robbery and murder which occurred 520 00:29:52,658 --> 00:29:55,659 at the Crocker bank located in Carmichael. 521 00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:57,861 We are satisfied at this time that there is 522 00:29:57,963 --> 00:30:01,298 insufficient evidence to prove the identity of the person 523 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,068 who actually fired the shotgun that killed Mrs. Opsahl. 524 00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:07,304 Opsahl: It's like my mom's life didn't matter. 525 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:11,108 It was so frustrating and so sad, 526 00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:14,778 because you felt like there was no -- 527 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,414 nobody paid for what they did. 528 00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:21,685 When someone is killed in a bank robbery or any violence, 529 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:24,555 what some people don't really realize, maybe, 530 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:28,525 is that there's many other victims. 531 00:30:28,627 --> 00:30:30,828 It's not just the person that got killed. 532 00:30:30,930 --> 00:30:33,197 God forbid, that family is destroyed, 533 00:30:33,299 --> 00:30:35,432 but there's a lot of other people 534 00:30:35,534 --> 00:30:40,838 that'll never be the same, and some people don't recover. 535 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:44,975 They put it to bed. Myrna was a victim of the sla. 536 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:49,413 She was a victim of politics, and unfortunately, 537 00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:53,116 she was a victim of some very bad decision -making. 538 00:30:56,856 --> 00:31:00,157 So the years passed, you know, one after another. 539 00:31:00,259 --> 00:31:04,194 Finished high school and went on to college and medical school 540 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:05,662 and, you know, life just went on. 541 00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,998 I got married, had three kids. 542 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,000 I thought, eventually they'll be caught 543 00:31:10,102 --> 00:31:13,670 and be punished for what they did, but that never happened -- 544 00:31:13,772 --> 00:31:19,243 not for a long time. 545 00:31:19,345 --> 00:31:21,712 President Carter commuted Patty Hearst's sentence, 546 00:31:21,814 --> 00:31:24,414 then Patty Hearst's book came out. 547 00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:27,951 It was tough to get through, but we learned who did it. 548 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:30,621 She identified Emily Harris as the person 549 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:35,025 that pulled the trigger that caused my mom's death. 550 00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:37,027 When they got back to the safe house 551 00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:42,165 and several of them voiced objection to Emily Harris 552 00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:44,801 saying, you know, "why did you fire your gun?" 553 00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:49,640 ...she tried to blame it, I think, on a hair trigger. 554 00:31:49,742 --> 00:31:53,577 She didn't mean to, but it doesn't matter -- 555 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:58,248 "she was a bourgeois pig and her life doesn't matter." 556 00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:00,450 Saying that a woman like Mrs. Opsahl 557 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:05,255 was collateral damage is insanity, and it's not true. 558 00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:08,692 So I think, at that point, it was really -- 559 00:32:08,794 --> 00:32:11,361 it was looked at by everybody I knew 560 00:32:11,463 --> 00:32:14,498 as a really cowardly, horrendous act. 561 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,334 All of a sudden, because Patty Hearst said so, 562 00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:22,272 I was credible, and that irritated me, too, really. 563 00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:25,175 I was thankful and grateful to Patty Hearst, 564 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:29,112 that she was courageous enough to explain what happened. 565 00:32:29,214 --> 00:32:33,050 I thought, "now they're gonna be punished for their crimes." 566 00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:37,020 The district attorney didn't seem to want to hold 567 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:40,791 the sla members responsible, and when we even asked, 568 00:32:40,893 --> 00:32:42,492 they said, "well, we know who did it, 569 00:32:42,594 --> 00:32:44,494 but we just can't prove it in court." 570 00:32:44,596 --> 00:32:46,163 And so it was like their hands were tied. 571 00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:48,565 They couldn't do anything about it. 572 00:32:48,634 --> 00:32:49,766 Why aren't they being punished? 573 00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:52,436 Why isn't somebody doing something? 574 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,209 It was 1999, and I was assigned to the major crimes division, 575 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:01,878 and the head of the unit had this very thin file 576 00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:03,814 and dropped it on my desk and said, 577 00:33:03,916 --> 00:33:06,016 "this is gonna be your case." 578 00:33:06,118 --> 00:33:10,253 And I looked at it, and I saw "Kathleen Soliah." 579 00:33:10,356 --> 00:33:12,489 It was related to two attempted bombings 580 00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:15,392 in Los Angeles in 1974. 581 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,527 I got the case because I was a rookie. 582 00:33:17,629 --> 00:33:20,197 I was the only one polite enough not to say, 583 00:33:20,299 --> 00:33:22,632 "hell, no, I'm not gonna take that case." 584 00:33:22,735 --> 00:33:27,571 I did nothing with it, until one day my pager went off. 585 00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:30,974 Kathleen Soliah had been arrested in Minnesota. 586 00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:34,378 A woman who was on the run from police for nearly 25 years 587 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,513 is being held on one million dollars bond. 588 00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:39,182 Tonight, the FBI caught up with longtime 589 00:33:39,284 --> 00:33:43,553 symbionese liberation army fugitive Kathleen Soliah. 590 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:47,491 Following an airing of "america's most wanted," 591 00:33:47,593 --> 00:33:51,795 they ran a special on some of the fugitives that had escaped 592 00:33:51,897 --> 00:33:57,567 when the FBI did the raids on the sla safe houses in 1975. 593 00:33:57,703 --> 00:33:59,803 As a result of the airing of that show, 594 00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:02,439 somebody told police where she was. 595 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:05,442 Kathleen Soliah was living in St. Paul, Minnesota. 596 00:34:05,544 --> 00:34:08,478 She lived here with her husband, an emergency room doctor, 597 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:10,347 and three teenage daughters. 598 00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:13,050 She now goes by the name "Sarah Olsen." 599 00:34:13,152 --> 00:34:14,651 She was a middle-aged soccer mom. 600 00:34:14,753 --> 00:34:18,221 She had been a fugitive for approximately 25 years. 601 00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:20,123 Soliah is alleged to have committed 602 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:22,059 bombings and bank robberies 603 00:34:22,161 --> 00:34:25,362 with other members of the symbionese liberation army. 604 00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:28,265 In reviewing the case, I saw that there truly 605 00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,600 was plenty of evidence, an abundance of evidence 606 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:31,902 from the very beginning 607 00:34:32,004 --> 00:34:34,805 that tied the sla to the Carmichael bank robbery -- 608 00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:38,175 fingerprints at the safe houses they had rented in Sacramento. 609 00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:41,578 Stephen Soliah and James Kilgore stole license plates 610 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,613 and switched them on to the getaway cars. 611 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:45,515 Those license plates were recovered. 612 00:34:45,617 --> 00:34:47,617 Their fingerprints were found on book. 613 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,120 Most significantly, when banks are robbed, 614 00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:51,354 there are certain bills 615 00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:54,257 that have prerecorded serial numbers on them. 616 00:34:54,359 --> 00:34:56,893 The money that was stolen in the bank robbery 617 00:34:56,995 --> 00:34:59,262 was kept in one of the sla safe houses, 618 00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:01,364 in a freezer, wrapped in tin foil. 619 00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:03,533 The bait bill from that bank robbery 620 00:35:03,635 --> 00:35:06,436 was found in the precita street address 621 00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:11,675 when the FBI made the raid on that location. 622 00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:14,411 I realized the FBI have techniques available 623 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:16,446 that they didn't have back in those days. 624 00:35:16,548 --> 00:35:18,348 We had them compare pellets 625 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:21,118 that were removed from Mrs. Opsahl body 626 00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:22,919 to pellets that were stored 627 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:26,056 in the precita street and morse street closets, 628 00:35:26,158 --> 00:35:28,725 and they were a complete match. 629 00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:30,360 Every single thing that Patricia Hearst 630 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,028 says in that book checks out. 631 00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:34,664 There was just a mountain of evidence. 632 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,333 There was no doubt that this robbery 633 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,401 was committed by the sla. 634 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:41,571 It was almost laughable that they hadn't been prosecuted. 635 00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:42,873 We wanted word to get out 636 00:35:42,975 --> 00:35:44,774 that there was this horrible injustice, 637 00:35:44,877 --> 00:35:46,943 so we reached out to Jon opsahl, 638 00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:49,446 and we showed him the evidence that we had put together, 639 00:35:49,548 --> 00:35:53,984 and I remember Jon shedding a tear. 640 00:35:54,086 --> 00:35:55,285 I was just -- shocked. 641 00:35:55,387 --> 00:35:57,988 Now we learned there was evidence 642 00:35:58,090 --> 00:36:02,359 to corroborate Patty Hearst's story, 643 00:36:02,461 --> 00:36:06,396 and justice could have been done a long time ago, 644 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,798 which was disappointing to learn -- 645 00:36:08,867 --> 00:36:11,868 that somebody dropped the ball. 646 00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:16,139 Her death really didn't matter to anybody there in Sacramento? 647 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:22,279 We were determined to do whatever it took 648 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:24,481 to make sure that she got justice. 649 00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:30,120 Jon Opsahl became a voice for his mother. 650 00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:31,788 It became his life's mission 651 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:35,759 to put public pressure on the Sacramento D.A. 652 00:36:35,861 --> 00:36:39,496 To make sure that they prosecuted the case. 653 00:36:39,598 --> 00:36:41,464 We put together a little campaign 654 00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:44,534 called "justice for Myrna Opsahl." 655 00:36:44,636 --> 00:36:46,770 There's a tremendous amount of compelling evidence 656 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:49,139 supporting Patricia Hearst's accounts, 657 00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:50,840 and felt strongly that 658 00:36:50,943 --> 00:36:53,710 they should be charged and tried as soon as possible. 659 00:36:53,812 --> 00:36:57,380 Public pressure was mounting on the Sacramento D.A. 660 00:36:57,482 --> 00:36:59,282 To file that murder case. 661 00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:02,786 The public knew that the case was prosecutable and winnable. 662 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,287 The FBI went out 663 00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:06,623 at the direction of the Sacramento county D.A. 664 00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:08,725 And arrested all of those involved 665 00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,261 in the Carmichael bank robbery. 666 00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:26,643 I'm very happy that my mother's murder 667 00:37:26,712 --> 00:37:29,980 is getting the attention that it deserves, 668 00:37:30,082 --> 00:37:32,682 and I trust that justice will be served. 669 00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:34,284 Mike Bortin was arrested, 670 00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:38,455 along with Bill Harris, of Oakland, and Emily Harris. 671 00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:40,657 Emily Harris was quoted in Patty Hearst's book 672 00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:44,261 as saying that "her death doesn't matter anyways. 673 00:37:44,363 --> 00:37:46,763 She was a bourgeois pig." 674 00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:49,766 Those words have always kind of haunted us. 675 00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:52,102 They didn't seem to have much concern over 676 00:37:52,204 --> 00:37:55,472 what their actions cost. 677 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,874 The things of such immense value, 678 00:37:57,976 --> 00:37:59,776 things that can't be replaced. 679 00:37:59,878 --> 00:38:04,114 They had no idea the destruction that followed their actions 680 00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:06,516 for years and years, and to this day. 681 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:10,654 Feld there they were, in two separate courtrooms in L.A. -- 682 00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:14,257 Sara Jane Olsen in Sacramento, California. 683 00:38:14,359 --> 00:38:17,894 Bill and Emily Harris, no longer married to each other, 684 00:38:17,996 --> 00:38:20,397 but now bound by their past. 685 00:38:20,499 --> 00:38:23,233 And in Portland, Oregon, Michael Bortin, 686 00:38:23,335 --> 00:38:28,571 all charged with the shotgun murder of Myrna Opsahl. 687 00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:32,842 We were getting ready to enter pleas, and Emily said 688 00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:35,078 this is really an important day for her, 689 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:38,882 because she's been living with the guilt 690 00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:42,619 of what she had done all her life, since it happened, 691 00:38:42,721 --> 00:38:44,054 and somehow pleading guilty 692 00:38:44,156 --> 00:38:47,691 and taking responsibility could lessen that, 693 00:38:47,793 --> 00:38:51,661 and it's something that she really wanted to do. 694 00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,264 It certainly reflects her feelings, 695 00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:57,834 and I think the feeling of many of the people involved, 696 00:38:57,936 --> 00:39:01,438 that gets lost sometimes as we talk about the sla, 697 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:04,240 because they did such up things 698 00:39:04,343 --> 00:39:06,276 and hurt people who shouldn't have been hurt, 699 00:39:06,378 --> 00:39:09,245 the essence being Mrs. Opsahl. 700 00:39:09,348 --> 00:39:11,848 But it wasn't that these were just 701 00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:15,251 cold-hearted, ruthless people -- 702 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:16,686 there were people we could have all known, 703 00:39:16,788 --> 00:39:20,824 who went to colleges and went to Vietnam and came back. 704 00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:26,062 And somehow, by their isolation, 705 00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:29,165 they got caught up in something that took over. 706 00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:31,368 And not that they're not responsible, 707 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:35,538 but they weren't these poster child for evil. 708 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,108 They did something terrible and it lived with them, 709 00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:42,212 and it ate people like Emily up for a long time. 710 00:39:42,314 --> 00:39:44,581 Emily: The rest of my life, I will continue 711 00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:47,050 to feel a deep sense of remorse and sadness 712 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:50,053 for my doing in the death of Mrs. Opsahl 713 00:39:50,155 --> 00:39:53,456 and the suffering that that caused her family. 714 00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:57,794 My heartfelt sympathy and apologies go out to you. 715 00:39:59,331 --> 00:40:04,534 Hopefully, today will bring an end to the legal proceedings 716 00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:08,671 and finally bring resolution for the Opsahl family. 717 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:11,574 Finally, everybody knew that I was right 718 00:40:11,676 --> 00:40:13,610 about it being a woman. 719 00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:16,179 When they were sentenced, and I stood there 720 00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:20,083 and looked at them all sitting in the gallery -- 721 00:40:20,185 --> 00:40:23,787 and the second I said my piece, I was done, 722 00:40:23,889 --> 00:40:28,358 'cause now, finally, someone listened to me. 723 00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:30,927 To their credit, they all took responsibility 724 00:40:31,029 --> 00:40:32,562 for the murder of Myrna opsahl. 725 00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:36,866 Kathleen Soliah, Bill Harris, Emily Harris, 726 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:39,436 Jim Kilgore and Michael Bortin. 727 00:40:39,538 --> 00:40:42,272 They all pled guilty. 728 00:40:42,374 --> 00:40:45,108 The sentences that they got were absurd. 729 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:48,344 It was the functional equivalent of what what somebody gets 730 00:40:48,447 --> 00:40:51,448 for having a couple of rocks of cocaine on the street. 731 00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:28,318 For nearly 28 years, 732 00:41:28,386 --> 00:41:31,521 I have lived with the fact that monsters do exist, 733 00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:33,490 that homegrown terrorism is real, 734 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:36,659 that the incomprehensible happened, 735 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:40,263 and that beyond our family and church, 736 00:41:40,365 --> 00:41:41,698 no one else seemed to care, 737 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,968 including and especially the defendants. 738 00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:48,938 In trying to imagine what she went through -- 739 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:52,141 being shot and bleeding out. 740 00:41:52,244 --> 00:41:54,444 You know, she was a nurse, I think she knew right off 741 00:41:54,546 --> 00:41:57,046 that she's likely to die right there, 742 00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:59,749 on that floor of the bank, 743 00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:03,820 and not ever see us again, 744 00:42:03,922 --> 00:42:08,157 and not be there to help us like she would have wanted to. 745 00:42:08,260 --> 00:42:11,728 She was robbed of all that. 746 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:15,164 She would have wanted us to continue on with school 747 00:42:15,267 --> 00:42:20,136 and get married and have kids and have that wonderful life 748 00:42:20,238 --> 00:42:27,243 that she was no longer allowed to enjoy. 749 00:42:27,345 --> 00:42:30,346 And so in honor of her memory, 750 00:42:30,448 --> 00:42:34,751 you know, we've all tried to make that happen. 61170

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