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The most important aspect
to a project like this
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is the love of the world of Star Wars,
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and to put that love
into the storytelling.
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We all love special effects and fireworks
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and visual experiences
that are incredible,
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but what we care the most about
is relationships and characters.
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It's also taking a chance
and certain risks
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that have incredible rewards,
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so that we can
actually achieve something new.
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It's truly an adventure.
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A Star Wars adventure.
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When we talked
in the very beginning,
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I was interested in working with you.
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I mean, that was first.
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But I always want to see the script, man.
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I want to know,
"What am I asked to do?"
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'Cause people have their agendas
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or they have their ways
of seeing the world or...
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As an actor,
what you're really doing is, you're...
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You're somehow endorsing
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what someone wants to say
about the world or in the world.
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So I read the script, and I'm thinking,
"Damn, man, this is really good."
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"I really like what I'm reading."
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So all that is the context,
and when I walk there
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and I look at the Mandalorian,
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I know where this thing is going.
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So now, it's for me
to sell where this is going
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through my character,
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regardless of whether
I can see his or her eyes.
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There's something about the design of
that whole thing with the Mandalorian
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- that has its own kind of mystery...
- It does.
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We inherited that from George.
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- It's cool.
- George really borrowed Boba Fett
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from Man With No Name,
because if you think about it,
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it still has that sort of breakdown
of Eastwood's straight brim like that.
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Just kind of over the eyes.
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And the poncho over the shoulder
and over the back,
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and they put in a spur sound.
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That was the gunfighter.
Deconstructed gunfighter iconography.
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Mandalorian isn't a race.
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It's a Creed.
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I love the opportunity to make him
as human and as accessible as possible,
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which is strange to say
because it's impossible to get to him
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'cause he's covered in armor
from head to toe.
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And yet, the idea is that, you know,
he's relatable.
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We're all kind of covered in our own armor
and terrified of taking that armor off.
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And that's the thing
that crosses him over into a character
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that we're all gonna
really want to follow.
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Have you ever
removed your helmet?
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No.
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Has it ever been removed
by others?
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Never.
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This is the Way.
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This is the Way.
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Mandalorians,
and as far as our Mandalorian is aware,
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cannot reveal their faces.
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Our Mandalorian subscribes to this.
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If he ever reveals his face,
he can never put his helmet back on again.
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You know, he cannot be
a Mandalorian anymore.
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And he's wondering,
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"Can I take off my helmet?
Can I be at peace?"
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I wonder what you look like
under there.
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Let's all see your eyes.
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It is definitely a challenge
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to try to really
get the emotional complexity
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or to get very nuanced performance
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when, obviously, the main character
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is in full armor
and you can't see his face.
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How do you convey that sense of connection
to someone that we can't see his eyes?
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I, as a storyteller and an audience member
want to see that,
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want to see what's behind the mask.
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Working with, you know, the actor
to use the physicality, so it's just...
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Even just the littlest head turn,
a lot of it was about stillness,
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which was about,
like, staying very, very still
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when something significant happens,
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so you can feel that everything
stopped for a moment,
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so when there's a gesture,
it's a very meaningful gesture.
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So we were trying to really sort of use
the stillness of the character
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so that any little gesture
really meant something
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and to try to have that
to sort of show emotionally
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how he's feeling and what he's thinking
without being able to see his eyes.
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When you have a character like that,
you really sort of lean into his face more
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because you want to get a peek inside
of what's behind there.
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So every bit of who he is
becomes significant in a way.
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And in some ways, as an audience,
I think we're going to be looking
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to sort of project our own emotions
onto his experience.
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- I think it's in the eighth episode...
- Yeah, final episode.
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- When we slip the helmet off you.
- Like halfway through.
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Just for a moment, goes back on.
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I loved how you looked
under it, because...
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- A mess.
- 'Cause when they... No, it is...
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Well, there's that story.
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- What?
- Which one?
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- The trip to the hospital?
- Yeah.
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It's very embarrassing.
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I'm telling you, I have been
in the most dangerous circumstances.
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To sell all my previous employers out,
I will tell you that none...
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There were so many things that shouldn't
have been happening for months at a time.
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I was on tin roofs
in ruins in South America.
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I was like, "One little slip
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"and I'm definitely done
for the rest of my life."
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- I was like, "We kept...
- China for five months.
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- This way, he got hurt in his trailer.
- The Matthew Vaughn movies.
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I stepped out of the makeup trailer
looking at my sides
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- and walk into a piece of plywood.
- Yes.
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Never gone to the hospital
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- from work before.
- The bad part was this.
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He was made up because it was the scene
after the explosion,
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and he's bleeding out of his ears,
he's covered with blood.
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- Yeah.
- Yes.
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- So what's the real blood and what's...
- So he goes
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to the emergency room,
they're like, "Let him in!"
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- "Look at his condition."
- They're like,
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"This guy's at death's door."
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I was sitting
next to him in the makeup trailer
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and they're adding blood, adding blood.
And then...
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I come right back in
and blood's coming...
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They call me for rehearsal,
I come out and I'm like,
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"Damn, they did a really good job.
Like, this is so real."
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And he was holding his nose.
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- You had to get stitches.
- I had seven stitches.
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- Seven stitches.
- It was so cool,
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and this is, I think, pride points,
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is you went to the hospital and came back.
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- Oh, please. You guys had moved.
- That was like a hockey player.
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- Come on. You guys moved.
- You went off the ice,
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- and came right back.
- You moved...
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- It was awesome.
- You moved mountains.
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- A puck to the head, came back...
- You moved mountains,
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I couldn't get
from the makeup trailer to a rehearsal.
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What was good, though, is that the scene
was about somebody who...
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- So it was perfect.
- Injured. It was perfect.
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You were really in it. Method.
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You were really in it.
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I would be bragging about that story.
That's amazing.
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- Yeah.
- Great story.
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Can I just comment
on the helmet thing, though?
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Oh, yeah.
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I found it really a challenge.
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When you're across from somebody,
they're throwing
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- body language at you.
- Yes.
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- And these two things here...
- Sure.
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You can be saying one thing,
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but these two things
tell me something different.
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And I'm responding
to what you're throwing.
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- You're hitting the ball this way...
- Right.
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Whatever it's doing,
I have to adjust for it.
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- And that helmet...
- It's a mask.
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- Yeah.
- It is flat.
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There is nothing.
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So you have to...
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I have to listen so acutely to the voice
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and hope that that voice is gonna cue me
to what this person is.
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Not just the words,
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- but what they're really saying under it.
- Yes, yes.
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And it's a challenge.
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It makes you focus even more
and concentrate even more
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and become even more still,
if that's possible.
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You become a hummingbird.
It's like, "Okay, you better go to work."
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I am third fiddle to two incredible guys,
Brendan Wayne and Lateef.
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I'm modeling my performance
around their physicality in a lot of ways.
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And I wouldn't be able to do it
without them.
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Brendan knows how to handle a gun,
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so the gunslinger aspect
of the Mandalorian
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is taken care of on that side.
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I got to pull guns.
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I got to shoot guns.
I got to shoot grappling hooks.
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It's fun. It's fun.
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And then we have Lateef Crowder,
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who is our capoeira, jujitsu warrior
who can basically do anything.
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You know,
the secret is to always be ready.
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I'm always training.
Whether it's martial arts,
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whether it's stunt training,
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whether it's weight training,
just physical fitness.
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Always got to stay ready
and just be ready to adapt.
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I'm a Mandalorian.
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Thanks, guys.
That's a wrap for us as well.
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- You worked with three different people.
- Yeah.
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They're all the same mask.
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But I know on film I can tell
slightly the difference.
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Not just from the... Could you tell
the difference with each one?
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- I could...
- All felt like the Mandalorian?
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'Cause it comes off on film...
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- All as one?
- Yeah, it feels...
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- Yeah, yeah.
- So for me,
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you all brought the physicality,
the incredible acting,
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and the brotherhood
that I had in the other one.
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So it was kind of you all make up
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- the Mandalorian for me.
- Right.
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And, um, I have such a good connection
with all of you guys.
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You're very smart with your choices,
and you know what's going on in the scene.
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And a lot of emotion
has to come through, just the voice.
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I can bring you in warm...
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Or I can bring you in cold.
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I think that's perfect.
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It's interesting doing voiceover.
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We get to really improvise
our way through it.
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Lower your blaster.
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Have them lower theirs.
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I'm in the Guild!
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Me and Jon and Dave
doing some rewriting on the spot
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- and finessing to get it right.
- Boom!
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I want my next job.
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Do a round of this one,
and we'll jump to that scene.
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Wait. Just wait.
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The trick with this episode
is for us to plant the seed
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so that when you change your mind,
it feels earned.
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This is the Way.
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This is the Way.
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- That's good. That one's really good.
- Yeah, that's great.
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We never talked about your career
as a professional fighter.
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So I just knew you...
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I liked you from Haywire.
I liked your other work, Deadpool.
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We know Soderbergh through the Guild.
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He's got really good taste.
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I was like, "He picked you out
and got you?"
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And then... Great job.
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And I was like,
"She could be good for this part."
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Then I just started watching tape on you,
and you remember, it wasn't an audition.
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- No.
- It was a phone call.
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Thank God, because I don't know...
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I'm starting to get better at auditions.
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You were
in the story illustrations
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within my first meeting with these guys.
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- That was...
- In the room of pictures.
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And I don't know if they had
spoken to you yet, but you were in it.
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- I trust my... Yeah.
- And they were like,
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"I don't know if you know."
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I said, "Gina Carano from Haywire."
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- Oh, my gosh.
- Absolutely.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, I'm completely,
like, overwhelmed by...
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Because I don't feel
like the regular actress,
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and I don't think I'm ever gonna be
very Hollywood.
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So I just feel
like the people that find me,
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like you, Soderbergh,
are people that, um...
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- See a little bit of your soul?
- Yes, thank you for that.
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I, for this job, physically...
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I was myself.
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Jon wanted to put a woman that looks like
she can take care of business in armor,
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and he actually, through this job,
has helped me learn to love what I am.
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I think when everybody realized
I was strong...
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was a scene
where I have to pick up Mando,
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and I have to drag him
into the common house.
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And I went out there,
and I got behind him,
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and I picked him up from behind
and I drug him in.
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When she is carrying Mando,
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she really carried him.
That wasn't a stunt double.
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That was Gina just strong-arming him
and just dragging him across that.
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It was crazy.
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It's awesome being a young woman
in this industry
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and seeing other women being portrayed
in a really heroic, badass light.
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Gina is a perfect example of that.
253
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Gina lights up
when she is doing the action stuff.
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Like, you can tell she loves
being that character in this world.
255
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And also, her expressions
when she's in those fight scenes,
256
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- that's not easy to do.
- Yes.
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The way she takes a hit,
that's what made Harrison Ford a star,
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he knew how to take a punch
as Indiana Jones.
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His hand would hurt when he punched.
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He was very human.
He didn't play it like a superhero.
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He played it vulnerable,
and you experienced it through his eyes.
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And I think Gina, also partially
'cause of her background, right?
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She's actually punched people,
and she's been punched.
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And I think that's a huge difference.
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Like, I mean, it's like when you see...
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When you're doing a fight scene
and you actually haven't experienced that,
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it's like
you're just at a huge disadvantage.
268
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And she is, you know, she was
a professional fighter for so many years.
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I love it, too, 'cause it's...
You know...
270
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George Lucas was referencing
an older generation.
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You know, he was a baby boomer,
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he was referencing
the Greatest Generations films.
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So he was referencing World War II films
and the movies he grew up with.
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And he...
275
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And the way he would treat action was
the way that those films treated action.
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The way they would
cast action heroes back then
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would be people who really, like...
278
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Especially with Westerns,
they would go at Gower Gulch.
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There'd be real cowboys, and people
280
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who really knew how to ride and rope,
knew how to fight and knew how to shoot.
281
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And it was all very authentic.
282
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That's how people
became movie stars sometimes.
283
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They were people
who actually had that background.
284
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It's almost like what we do
with martial arts now, those films,
285
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that people become actors
out of that skillset.
286
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So having her there,
it was a bit of a throwback to me.
287
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And to me, there's so much...
There's so...
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I don't know, there's something
so relatable about her in that role,
289
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and she's playing the type of role
that I would have...
290
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The type of action figure
I'd have wanted the most.
291
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Cara Dune here was a veteran.
292
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She was a drop soldier for the Rebellion,
293
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and she's gonna lay out a plan for you,
so listen carefully.
294
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Open fire.
295
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When it came to the costume
and the look and everything,
296
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Kathy Kennedy said,
297
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"The thing about Star Wars characters,
they always have a silhouette."
298
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You can see them from a distance,
and you know who they are.
299
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You know if Han Solo
is walking towards you
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versus Obi-Wan Kenobi.
301
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Hello there.
302
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You just know the difference
'cause there's a silhouette.
303
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And you see Gina 50 feet away
and she's backlit, and you know it's her.
304
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She looks like a warrior.
305
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There's no other way to put it.
She looks like a warrior.
306
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Cara is an ex-shock trooper.
307
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She comes from the planet Alderaan,
308
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which is a very peaceful planet,
and it obviously gets blown up.
309
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So she left there,
310
00:16:50,594 --> 00:16:53,597
so she was a bit of a different character
on her planet.
311
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She was the rebellious one.
312
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She was like,
"I'm interested in war and fighting.
313
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"Interested in things
that get your adrenaline going."
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I feel like
this is the first time
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I've actually, like, genuinely
gotten into character.
316
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Come to Mama.
317
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There's a certain way
that you carry your body.
318
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There's a certain way that you play...
A certain confidence you hold.
319
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So many actors show that they're tough.
320
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Tough people that I know
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don't show they're tough.
They know that they're tough.
322
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And then the status comes out
just through the attitude.
323
00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,433
And that comes from knowing
that you've been in situations
324
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and you've handled it, you know.
325
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I know 'cause I can see it
'cause I'm not that way.
326
00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:44,231
I know that I'm not.
327
00:17:44,314 --> 00:17:46,984
Let's talk about the other side
of the spectrum.
328
00:17:47,067 --> 00:17:49,361
- Wait, you are...
- So, Pedro...
329
00:17:49,444 --> 00:17:52,072
Let's talk about the dorks
that get the gig.
330
00:17:54,992 --> 00:17:59,538
Wait, can I just say something about...
Carl was, uh... Jon...
331
00:17:59,621 --> 00:18:04,126
I don't know.
The emotional intelligence...
332
00:18:04,209 --> 00:18:06,170
I feel like you get
the way I think and feel,
333
00:18:06,253 --> 00:18:08,213
what I've been through in my career
without...
334
00:18:08,297 --> 00:18:12,551
I've never even had dinner with you.
We've just met in these office buildings.
335
00:18:12,634 --> 00:18:14,469
- We've been working a lot together.
- That.
336
00:18:14,553 --> 00:18:15,971
You spend a lot of time here.
337
00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:18,348
You really get it.
There's a genius in that.
338
00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:20,851
I completely, 100% believe that.
339
00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:24,938
He would tell me, when Carl was on film,
he would bring me back,
340
00:18:25,022 --> 00:18:28,483
and every time I needed to see something
and be educated of something,
341
00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:31,028
he'd be like, "Come here.
Let me show you something.
342
00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:33,238
"Listen to him. Watch him.
343
00:18:33,322 --> 00:18:37,367
"He is a superstar.
This is what a superstar is.
344
00:18:37,451 --> 00:18:39,912
"Listen to his voice,
listen to the way..."
345
00:18:39,995 --> 00:18:42,915
When he turns it on, it is so incredible.
346
00:18:42,998 --> 00:18:48,587
It was so beautiful to watch you, Carl.
Your voice is...
347
00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:51,882
I mean, your voice
is so powerful and so beautiful,
348
00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:55,052
it just sounds like a song,
everybody can hear it in the room.
349
00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:57,679
And we all looked around
and thought to ourselves,
350
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"That is a superstar."
351
00:19:00,265 --> 00:19:02,935
And you have been a superstar,
and I'm so honored
352
00:19:03,018 --> 00:19:05,854
- to have those scenes with you.
- Good Lord. Thank you, Gina.
353
00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:12,277
I, for one, I celebrate your success.
354
00:19:12,778 --> 00:19:14,863
Because it is my success as well.
355
00:19:14,947 --> 00:19:17,491
There's something
about this character
356
00:19:18,659 --> 00:19:24,039
that reminds me of a combination
of John Huston and Orson Welles.
357
00:19:24,122 --> 00:19:26,291
There is this largesse about him,
358
00:19:26,375 --> 00:19:30,462
there is this commanding
sort of presence about him
359
00:19:30,546 --> 00:19:34,258
that he doesn't try to do,
but that's just who he is.
360
00:19:34,341 --> 00:19:38,595
When he walks into a space, not a room,
any space, he fills that space.
361
00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:40,639
How do I know I can trust you?
362
00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:42,891
Because I'm your only hope.
363
00:19:43,767 --> 00:19:47,604
You can paint a character
as an antagonist, as the bad guy,
364
00:19:48,397 --> 00:19:51,733
and I've never
approached roles that way, ever.
365
00:19:51,817 --> 00:19:55,612
I find tremendous flaws in human beings.
366
00:19:55,696 --> 00:19:58,740
And at times,
those flaws can lead a person astray,
367
00:19:58,824 --> 00:20:00,659
lead them to the dark side.
368
00:20:03,996 --> 00:20:09,960
So the story of Greef
is that he is tempted.
369
00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:16,216
Carl Weathers is somebody that you
just love to see and love to watch,
370
00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,635
because he commands presence.
371
00:20:18,719 --> 00:20:21,805
And he taught me a lot about that
just by watching it.
372
00:20:21,889 --> 00:20:24,266
And he'd also tell me on the side,
you know...
373
00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:27,769
I remember one time
I couldn't get something right,
374
00:20:27,853 --> 00:20:30,856
and I was just, like, you know,
kind of upset with myself.
375
00:20:30,939 --> 00:20:34,568
And he was reading a paper,
and he was like, "Happens to all of us."
376
00:20:34,651 --> 00:20:40,365
I was like, "All right, yup,
I'm over it now. Like, thanks, Carl."
377
00:20:40,449 --> 00:20:41,491
Um...
378
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:45,037
But just a precious, precious human.
379
00:20:46,955 --> 00:20:49,124
Carl wasn't supposed to be
in the whole show.
380
00:20:49,208 --> 00:20:54,254
Carl was in episode one
and then got knocked off in episode three.
381
00:20:54,338 --> 00:20:55,839
- Three, yeah.
- He got knocked off?
382
00:20:55,923 --> 00:20:57,174
- I didn't know.
- Originally.
383
00:20:58,008 --> 00:20:59,718
He was gonna be in full prosthetics...
384
00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:01,637
- Yeah.
- As a different alien race.
385
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,349
- Yup.
- And then we switched it up,
386
00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:07,643
and after he did it...
387
00:21:07,726 --> 00:21:10,521
It was a favor.
I said, "Come in and do this one..."
388
00:21:10,604 --> 00:21:13,398
He said, "Fine.
I don't really act much more, but fine."
389
00:21:13,482 --> 00:21:17,986
So Carl's supposed to come in,
he's gonna be in 101 and then 103...
390
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:19,655
- Out.
- He gets shot, he's out.
391
00:21:20,531 --> 00:21:22,658
So, "Okay, I'll do it as a favor."
392
00:21:22,741 --> 00:21:26,328
- Then we start seeing that it's him...
- But then he came in and talked,
393
00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:28,997
and we were like,
"How can we cover his face?"
394
00:21:29,081 --> 00:21:31,667
So the first thing was,
he can't be an alien.
395
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,168
Yeah, no way. Come on.
396
00:21:33,252 --> 00:21:35,087
Like, how you gonna cover that?
397
00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:39,049
'Cause they did a drawing with Carl
with the makeup on, and I'm like...
398
00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:42,469
I said to Carl, I said,
"We can't cover you up."
399
00:21:42,553 --> 00:21:44,137
He's like, "I figured as much."
400
00:21:44,221 --> 00:21:45,806
He didn't even...
401
00:21:47,432 --> 00:21:50,769
Look, man, I was... The reason why...
402
00:21:50,853 --> 00:21:52,437
I'll tell you why I went with it.
403
00:21:52,521 --> 00:21:55,941
I went with it because there was
no reason to argue yet.
404
00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:58,402
I thought, "Okay, let's try it, man.
405
00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:00,821
"I've never done it before,
it sounds good to me."
406
00:22:00,904 --> 00:22:03,907
But then, I swear to God,
I walk away and I'm thinking,
407
00:22:05,075 --> 00:22:08,537
"Okay, why would you do that?"
408
00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:12,833
Because people are gonna tune in
if you got the name.
409
00:22:12,916 --> 00:22:14,543
- Why not have the face?
- Yep.
410
00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:18,297
It's like, "Come on.
You take it off eventually, right?"
411
00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:19,756
- Well...
- Can you imagine...
412
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,260
In their well-researched
sort of casting investigation,
413
00:22:23,343 --> 00:22:24,720
- they were like...
- Hey, man.
414
00:22:24,803 --> 00:22:27,723
"People are really ready
to stop looking at this guy."
415
00:22:28,891 --> 00:22:30,726
- There it is.
- "Put a helmet on his head."
416
00:22:30,809 --> 00:22:32,352
Doesn't work that way. We thought,
417
00:22:32,436 --> 00:22:37,149
"Who would be cool with a great voice?"
And then you start to say, "Well, look,"
418
00:22:37,232 --> 00:22:39,443
we start talking
in a meeting with him, it's like,
419
00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:42,654
Carl, we gotta have him on camera.
420
00:22:42,738 --> 00:22:44,281
- He belongs...
- I'm so happy.
421
00:22:44,364 --> 00:22:46,158
- He feels like...
- That camera test moment
422
00:22:46,241 --> 00:22:49,620
where you and I were shooting some stuff,
and we were testing the cameras,
423
00:22:49,703 --> 00:22:53,540
and then we had a couple people
in big masks and different prosthetics,
424
00:22:53,624 --> 00:22:55,167
- we were trying...
- You were there.
425
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:58,378
Some simple directing for it
in a scene,
426
00:22:58,462 --> 00:23:02,132
and it was set up in the bar,
I was sitting there, and I was nervous.
427
00:23:02,216 --> 00:23:04,426
- He had never directed.
- Never directed live action.
428
00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:05,969
This was a test.
429
00:23:06,053 --> 00:23:08,972
He's like, "Okay, go ahead. You go.
You go, you go do it."
430
00:23:09,056 --> 00:23:11,850
It's a guy with four eyes
and a giant mask, and he can't see.
431
00:23:11,934 --> 00:23:14,853
- He's bobbling. I go up...
- We had somebody wearing the Mando...
432
00:23:14,937 --> 00:23:16,855
- You came, but you weren't in the test.
- Yeah.
433
00:23:16,939 --> 00:23:19,733
I'm trying to give a little direction,
and I'm thinking,
434
00:23:19,816 --> 00:23:22,653
"Okay, I got to set this up right
'cause Jon's watching."
435
00:23:22,736 --> 00:23:25,155
I give the direction,
"I want you to be here,"
436
00:23:25,239 --> 00:23:27,991
and, "You're cutting the drink off, okay.
You got it, you got it."
437
00:23:28,075 --> 00:23:30,494
And the guy is, like,
in the mask like this.
438
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:32,829
And I'm like, "Oh, my God,
what is happening?"
439
00:23:32,913 --> 00:23:35,541
And I'm thinking, like,
"I could draw this so much faster.
440
00:23:35,624 --> 00:23:37,459
"I could draw this. Why am I doing this?"
441
00:23:37,543 --> 00:23:39,753
- We watched on the monitor.
- Watched on the monitor,
442
00:23:39,837 --> 00:23:42,548
and coach watches it,
and he's like, "Okay, okay."
443
00:23:42,631 --> 00:23:44,550
He goes, "Okay, let me go."
444
00:23:44,633 --> 00:23:47,052
So he goes in. Now the first team goes in.
445
00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:49,930
You know, the punt team came off.
First team goes in.
446
00:23:50,013 --> 00:23:52,850
He goes direct, he comes back,
and he's, "Okay, watch."
447
00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:56,228
And we watch it.
It was better, but it wasn't great.
448
00:23:56,311 --> 00:23:58,564
- It was still clunky.
- We're sitting there like,
449
00:23:58,647 --> 00:24:00,732
"Maybe these masks are a big mistake."
450
00:24:00,816 --> 00:24:03,193
We were like,
"They can't see, can't do anything."
451
00:24:03,277 --> 00:24:06,071
They couldn't see, couldn't do anything.
We're like,
452
00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:08,490
- "We sold everybody on this vision."
- Yeah.
453
00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:10,576
Then we're doing the scene, I'm like...
454
00:24:10,659 --> 00:24:11,910
It's good that we...
455
00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:13,537
A blessing we get to see this thing.
456
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:14,955
We couldn't even get Mando
457
00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:18,083
to sit down in the booth
because of his gear.
458
00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:21,170
And like, he's got the armor on
and the hip pads,
459
00:24:21,253 --> 00:24:22,462
he tries to sit...
460
00:24:22,546 --> 00:24:25,007
- It was a prototype costume.
- Clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk.
461
00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:26,425
I'm just like, "In animation,
462
00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:27,759
- "he'd glide."
- I'll tell you.
463
00:24:27,843 --> 00:24:29,761
Remember now, when he showed up,
464
00:24:29,845 --> 00:24:31,471
- put the helmet...
- It fit.
465
00:24:31,555 --> 00:24:33,974
- And it was like...
- Yeah, then I relaxed.
466
00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:35,726
- It was like butter.
- Then I relaxed.
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When you have someone...
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- So the trick is, it's not just people...
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In costumes that you guide around.
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Whoever's in there, has to be an actor.
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Yeah.
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