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Dude, did you see when you could see
the laser in his helmet?
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Yeah, look at that.
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That's good.
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- Yeah.
- Amazing what we get excited about here.
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- Exactly.
- Look, a laser!
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Left.
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Right.
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I thought when the whole thing
is rumbling and it's going like this
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and back, like,
that's the intensity level we want.
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Everything has to build
as we're doing it here.
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Look back at the kid.
Kid, forward now.
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And let's cut.
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- Cut it!
- It's so hard.
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I mean, it's not wrong...
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One thing unifying us
is we all love Star Wars.
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- Right? That was a prerequisite.
- Yeah.
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But other than that, I don't know
that we all have anything else in common
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as far as how we came in to directing.
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But each and every one of you came in
and learned so quickly
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until you were actually pushing
the medium in a different way,
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and allowing us to create
the tools around what your needs were.
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And it was really fun for me.
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I've never been in this position
'cause I'm usually directing.
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On this project,
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it was interesting
working with many directors.
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Very lucky to work with Dave Filoni
to get a strong vision of how he wanted,
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and Jon Favreau wanted the show to go.
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And then it was really interesting working
with Rick and Deb and Bryce and Taika,
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'cause they all brought different things
to the show and party.
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They all had different perspectives
of the same vision,
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and it was wonderful
to be able to execute that.
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Action.
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Jon Favreau explained like
we were kind of like this Dirty Dozen,
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Magnificent Seven type of crew
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that he wanted to put together
to help tell these stories,
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and wanted the different voices
and personalities
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each of the filmmakers
were bringing to the table,
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and wanted to accentuate thatand bring that to the world of Star Wars.
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Really, for me, you go from
never doing anything in live-action
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and shooting a Star Wars anything,
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it's a very complex arrangement
of ideas and reality
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and imagination running together,
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and I'm very fortunate
to have Jon here as, like, a mentor
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for things that he knows
are hang-ups in live-action
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or are things that are difficult,
so he helps steer what I'm doing,
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and it's actually
a continuation of my education.
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It's more of a passerby-moment
throwaway. It's not like a focused...
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- Yeah.
- He walks through
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and then we sit on it,
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- and then we cut.
- It's like Apocalypse Now.
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It adds a little menace.
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It also gives some backstory.
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Remember when Threepio's head
gets blasted,
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and they all walk by, in Empire,
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and they pan over to it,
and they don't see it?
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No, I don't remember that.
It's a deep cut for me.
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I started in traditional
2D animation, all hand-drawn.
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I used to have hundreds
of drawings on the floor of my office
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that were not the good ones.
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My first job
was King of the Hill, actually.
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Drawing a bunch of Texans
drinking beer on a fence,
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which isn't what I went to art school for.
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It's harder to draw them
than people think.
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I worked for Disney in the TV division,
and then I worked on Airbender.
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The Last Airbender
at Nickelodeon was a super fun show,
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'cause very anime,
and I love anime and action.
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And then George with Clone Wars.
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And that was really the big change for me
because I'd never done CG before.
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When I got there, he said,
"We're not gonna do storyboards.
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"We're not gonna draw anything."
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I'm like, "Okay, but that's what I do."
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So the one skill I had
was rendered largely useless.
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But it wasn't really,
because it's still in all the language
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of making, you know, a film.
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I still sketch all the time,
even today for this stuff.
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But George taught me to think more
in terms of a camera and blocking
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and how to set up cameras
for a whole shoot and staging.
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So this language was kind of built in me
slowly over ten years,
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and George always talks
in terms of live-action.
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And so he really got me interested in,
well, maybe it's something I'd like to do.
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That's an interesting story
of how you guys met,
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or how you got the job, I should say.
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Oh, yeah, I got the job as almost a...
I almost didn't get the job,
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because I thought it was a practical joke.
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I was working at Nickelodeon, and somebody
called from Lucasfilm Animation,
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and I'm like,
"There is no Lucasfilm Animation."
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I thought I'd been excited
about Revenge of the Sith
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coming out and talked about it a lot,
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that the guys from SpongeBob were just
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busting my chops over Star Wars.
I thought it was a prank call.
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It was this producer who I'd never
heard of from "Lucasfilm Animation,"
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and they're doing the "Clone Wars,"
and I go, yeah.
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And I'm being like, all...
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You get so tired of being picked on.
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And you're just like, "This is
the SpongeBob guys. I know it is."
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I'm like, "Oh, you're making..."
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- "Uh, yeah, we're doing a..."
- Yeah.
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And I said, "Oh, so you're
making Clone Wars."
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"But you already did that, right?"
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- I'm talking like that.
- You're just talking...
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And getting to Clone Wars.
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She said, "Well, this is gonna be
a computer animation,
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"you know, and a whole new series."
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And I'm like,
"I don't do computer animation."
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She's like, "You've been
recommended to us by George."
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I'm like, "Really?
George recommended me, huh?"
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- And this is the way I'm talking.
- Oh, yeah?
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- She goes, "I'd love..."
- He's got confidence.
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"I would love to meet with you."
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And I'm like,
"Oh, I would love to meet with you."
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- So mysterious.
- And so this whole thing...
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And then, it's dawning on me,
the way she's talking...
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But I was like, "No,
I don't want to buy into this.
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"I always buy, I'm so naive."
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And I said, "Look..."
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She's about to hang up,
'cause we made the appointment.
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I said, "I got to ask,
who put you up to this?"
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She's like, "Excuse me?"
I'm like, "Who made you do it?
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"Is this the guys from SpongeBob?
Is this Vince? Who is this?"
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And she's like, "Is this Dave Filoni?"
And I'm like, "Yeah."
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She said, "You work on
Avatar: The Last Airbender?"
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I said, "Well, yeah."
She says, "Well, you're the guy."
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Then I realized, it just clicked.
I'm like, "Oh, my God."
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This is literally what I said.
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"You have no idea how the guy I am.
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"I am so the guy."
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I was like...
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"I have a Jedi costume
I'm making in my garage right now."
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And she later told me she
wanted to hang up right then and there,
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but she'd already made the appointment,
so she kept it.
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And then, I had to go through
two rounds of meeting people
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and then meet George.
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And when I met him,
I had to go up to the main house,
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and I had to sit there and,
you know, at a table.
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You know, he's got my portfolio,
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my little art portfolio
of animation things I've done.
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He's going through it like this.
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And I'm just sitting there like,
"Yeah, I'm not getting this,
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"'cause he sees the best
in the business, right?"
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And all I can really think is...
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You said, "That's from The Natural."
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Right, right?
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All I could really think, though,
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"When I'm in line for Revenge of the Sith,
I can outclass any nerd there."
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- "I got the best story ever."
- Because I've been in a room
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with George Lucas.
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My cred for my opinion
has just shot up.
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And then he closes my portfolio
and he looks at me, and he says,
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"Well, a Jedi would do this."
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And he starts
on this elaborate description
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of how a Jedi would handle
a negotiation more like a samurai.
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More like, almost like a mafia,
putting their lightsaber
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on the table, saying,
"It's how we'll do business.
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"If you don't listen to me,
this is kind of..."
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It's very much in the Toshiro Mifune
mindset of, "Here's the sword, boom.
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"We're gonna negotiate now on my terms."
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And he's talking about...
Everything he was saying,
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it was like getting incredible validation
for all the arguments I have with friends.
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'Cause I was like, "This..." I was like,
"I really got what you were saying."
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But you don't say anything.
You just listen.
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And I listen to him and listen to him,
and it was about ten minutes.
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Then the producer said,
"That's it. Your time's up."
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And he says, "Okay." And then I stood up,
and I was like,
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"Well, I'm never gonna see
this guy again."
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I said, "Nice to meet you."
I shook his hand.
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He said, "Very nice to meet you."
And I left.
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I went to the green room
next to his office,
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and I was like, "Whew, that's awesome.
This was a great experience."
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'Cause he was cool,
he was super knowledgeable.
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He was everything that you thought
the guy who created Star Wars was.
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Great experience.
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And then the producer opens
the door and says,
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"He likes you. You got the job."
And she shut the door.
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It was just like...
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Really, for me, I felt with the pilot,
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my job was to show this guy as he is,
as he has been:
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A hardened, kind of weather-beaten person
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that has been through things
we can't imagine
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and is just doing a job.
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And his job is hunting down beings
and turning them in.
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The consequences of that,
the morality of it, "I get paid."
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And then everything's gonna shift right
at the end, you know, and it's that pull
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between greed and being more selfless,
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which is fundamental
to the human experience.
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And for Mando now, he's made choices,
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and how is he going to improve himself.
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You are Mandalorian.
Surely you can ride this young foal.
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Dave Filoni, great collaborator,
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great animator, director,
storyteller, writer.
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But also, he has a strong intuition
about what George would say.
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He's an encyclopedia
of all of the Star Wars lore.
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You can ask him anything.
"Hey, what about this shoulder pad?"
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Dave Filoni will say,
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"Well, that's not actually
what it looks like,
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"but let me tell you why and let me
tell you the history of why."
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There's a purity to his relationship
to Star Wars in general,
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that it's just like...
It's really obvious.
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There's no Dave Filoni ego.
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It's just always all about
Star Wars and George
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and the stuff that's important.
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We wouldn't be able to do this
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without Dave Filoni.
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He is the truest lover of the material.
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He's so well-informed,
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and knows exactly what would fit,
what would make sense.
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I think he, more than anyone,
just sort of innately knows
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what's right and what's wrongfor Star Wars.
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Okay, cut.
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When you hit our set,
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you were in a different zone
that I'm not used to seeing,
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because I'm coming out of...
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Even when working fast
on an indie, you're shooting,
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maybe you're doing eight pages,
you're like a hero.
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You would go in there
and have your game plan.
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Also you love, what I also love
about you is you love action.
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- I do.
- It's in your bones.
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You're like, "Could I have
a few more stormtroopers?"
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I really liked killing stormtroopers.
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And I was always like,
"Take 'em."
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Yeah, I mean, I loved all that stuff.
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I'm a total... I love genre,
so I came out of sci-fi and fantasy
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like books, comics and video games.
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So as soon as I could, you know...
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'Cause I've been mostly doing television
for the last while.
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As soon as I was able to,
I started choosing shows
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- that I actually wanted to see.
- Yeah, you do a lot of cool TV.
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Yeah, I started...
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Probably the first big one I got
was Mr. Robot.
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At the time, we didn't know what it was.
It wasn't a big show.
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So I just ended up
sort of going by taste of
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would I actually want to watch this,
and what am I into?
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Which sort of turned out to be
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sort of zombies and robots
and aliens basically.
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That sort of ended up leading
to bigger and bigger shows,
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just because of the nature of the genre.
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But I think the difference
with television is that
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you're coming in to try to do something
really ambitious, really quickly.
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The only way to kind of do that
is to prep it
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as much as you can and come in planned.
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But it's still really hard.
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Just imagine... just overlap that
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and then come down to it
so you don't start already on it, okay?
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Oh, copy that.
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Deborah Chow was extremely efficient,
and she liked to shoot,
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and if you've got this many hours,
then she's gonna use that many hours,
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and you guys are all gonna work for it.
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As a director,
the main thing I'm trying to do
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with every scene I'm directing
is just find some life.
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It doesn't matter if an actor
changes something and it's better,
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or they want to change the blocking.
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Even if I can't get
a certain angle,
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I'd rather have something
that feels real and genuine
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and something alive about it.
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And so I think it's very important
that you not squish that
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and that you let that breathe
and you let there be an opportunity
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to just have something happen.
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I think with Star Wars, especiallywith it being the first television show,
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you really want to do it justice.
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So you do feel a responsibility,
but I think it's more making sure
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that everything sort of
feels right to the world.
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I'm in.
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What line do you
want me to take in here?
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- It's, uh, "I got it."
- What? No.
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- "I have it."
- "I have it"?
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- No, no, no.
- Your line.
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- My walking line.
- You're walking here. You're walking.
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I was like, "You don't know..."
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- But yeah.
- Keep walking.
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It's like two lines, you don't get it?
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- It's just straight.
- Oh, I'm going to her.
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Yeah, you're going...
I think for the first one,
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'cause we're not on you.
We're pretty much on her,
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so you don't even have to come
all this way back
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unless it's just for the field.
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Oh, I'm not keeping this?
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You'll have it, but in our two-shot.
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You're gonna walk into a profile two.
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Mando!
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I have it.
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I've got the egg.
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I love making these stories
about misfits and folks
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that don't actually ever get cameras
pointed at 'em,
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so for me, like, the Jawa stuff
and just seeing this monster, you know,
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sandcrawler tread
in the middle of the volume was like,
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"I'm actually in Star Wars in this moment,
'cause, you know,
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"I'm standing underneath the sandcrawler."
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And you look at the volume
and you go underneath it,
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and it's like you're really looking up
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at the sandcrawler. And that was, for me,
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one of the most rewarding
and crazy experiences
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of someone who just loves Star Wars.
It's like, this is the scale.
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I can actually feel
what the scale of this thing really was.
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And even though you play with it,
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and you know that this is what it is
in relation to your figures,
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to be in it was pretty...
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You had to talk to the Jawas.
You had a lot of Jawas.
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- Yeah, I had a lot of...
- Lot of Jawa work.
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They were the only things
that were alive...
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...that I could deal with, yeah.
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I was like, "People I can talk to."
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Thank you.
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And then on 6,
it was just great to, again, have people.
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Well, that was the opposite.
That was only people.
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- Exactly.
- And that's one that you wrote on.
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That was cool,
'cause that was your voice.
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- Yeah, exactly.
- I like that one a lot.
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- Yeah, so that was...
- That's where you start to realize
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that we had different voices
and different filmmakers, you know?
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I was reaching out to Disney,
they were like, "That one's kinda weird."
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- I was like, "Yeah!"
- In the best way.
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Each one's like a little mini-movie,
that was the heist movie.
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I liked that. We stuck to those rules,
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- and we talked about that a lot.
- Exactly.
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I think it works good,
and it shows that Mando
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doesn't wanna go with his old crowd.
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Just like the good old days, Mando.
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You're here, this thing is shut.
You're here at the step.
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And by the time you get here,
that's already done.
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I hadn't done much television.
Most of what I've done
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has been in feature films.
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Whatever concerns I might have had
about working in TV
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were dispelled by Jon, I think, in the way
that he was thinking about what this is.
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We're making a series that's connected,
but we're all each been given
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the freedom and the creativity
to tell a story as we would
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making a feature film.
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Get that blaster out of my face, Mando!
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It's kinda like, "Okay, whoa,
oh, okay. All right."
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- Cut.
- Cut.
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A job is a job.
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I'm certainly squarely in that generation
that Star Wars was a big part of my life
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and just a big part of who I am creatively
and what inspired my imagination,
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and Star Wars was the first filmI saw in a theater.
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I was once a Jedi Knight,
the same as your father.
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My dad took me to see it.
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I remember waiting in the long line,
having no idea what this was,
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and seeing the film
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and being completely blown away.
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Ha-ha!
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It's been, for me,
one of those things that's...
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I think the way I've seen film,
the way I've seen storytelling
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has been shaped
by that first experience seeing the film.
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And to be here
is a pretty phenomenal thing.
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That's my favorite moment. Right there.
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- See, that's the moment. Like, it's...
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- You can spot it a mile away.
- Yeah.
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Very early on, my dad
would just take me everywhere
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'cause it was like, "I won't leave
one more kid at home with my wife.
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"Like, this is ridiculous."
And so he had a business trip to Japan,
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and he just took me.
And I was five or six years old.
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And in Japan, he had a dinner
with George Lucas and Kurosawa,
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and I was there.
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- Oh, my goodness.
- I fell asleep during it.
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I was really jet-lagged.
But, you know, I remember those...
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But it's in there.
It's in your brain, it's in your brain.
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But I remember those,
I have those memories of, like, you know,
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my head resting on his chest
and hearing his voice,
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and then hearing everyone else's voices,
it's just kind of...
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- Yeah.
- ...staying. And also 'cause I really...
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When I saw Jurassic Park
for the first time,
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I was 12 years old. I said,
"Oh, my God, this is possible now,
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"our entire lives have changed
as storytellers, what we can do."
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Getting the opportunity
to work on something like this
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has just been so amazing,
just awe-inspiring.
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By the way, now that you're done,
and you did a great job,
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we threw you in the deep end of the pool,
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because that was
such a difficult episode to do,
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and we were like,
"We gotta pick the new person
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"who's never done this before
'cause they won't know how."
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- So she won't freak out.
- She won't know how hard it is,
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what we're asking her to do,
because we were,
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with the forest and water
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and big mech shooting
and background extras.
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- And it was too much, it was too much.
- I did it with zero support.
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No, it was incredible. And the truth is,
is that so much of this process
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is about iterating and reiterating,
and figuring it out, and problem-solving,
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and making breakthroughs.
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I think it goes back to this thing of,
like, when I watched Jurassic Park,
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it just... Oh, my God,
I will get emotional,
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but the power of storytelling is immense,
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but if the magic act doesn't work
then everything fails.
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It's so satisfying.
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Bryce's episode
was a really unusual departure
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from all the other episodes,
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because it was on
an agrarian-type planet, very green,
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very forested.
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And Bryce's
emotional appreciation of the drama
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and how to work with the actors
was extraordinary to work with.
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She was really a lovely director.
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We were peacekeepers,
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protecting delegates, suppressing riots.
Not what I signed up for.
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How'd you end up here?
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Let's just call it an early retirement.
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She really, really focuses
on the performances.
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And she's fierce,
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like, she's not going to take no
for an answer.
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Pause. You're looking around, just so that
we can get that, you know, make sense?
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Then you pull out your blaster,
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then you look at Cara,
Cara's looking at you. And then we go in.
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For me, I'm an actor
who's worked in a lot of movies
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with a lot of visual effects
and special effects.
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So, maybe, I'm there
to support the actors with
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that experience to make it feel
really honest and real and bring it back
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to the characters and the dialogue
and the scene work, and to just
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make every single scene like a play.
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You know, like a play
that just exists outside of Star Wars.
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I know. I know.
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We would never
have to cut around performance.
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Because I knew... I was like,
"If I can just make sure
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"that in every single set-up,
that I am, like, 'Oh, my gosh, if we just
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"'had to live here the entire scene,
it would be okay.'"
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There's a real responsibility
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working with these kinds of characters
and these kinds of stories
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and circumstances and all of that
because it is meaningful
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to so many people.
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Slow down a little bit.
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This is not about my relationshipwith Star Wars.
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This is about
all of our relationships with Star Wars.
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Hopefully, when folks watch
The Mandalorian,
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they'd feel our commitment to Star Wars,
to the incredible story that this is.
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We'll be ready.
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I didn't start directing anything
film-wise
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till I was around about 30.
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So, I started before that in stand-up,
and comedy and theater,
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and writing and directing.
So Jemaine and I would
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write and direct each other in things,
'cause no one would hire us
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for any, like, "real" plays.
And so, we're not like that,
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"I want to be in this, like,
fancy play and this, like, cool theater."
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And they're like, "No."
So then we'd just go off
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and write our own stuff,
and that's how I learned how to...
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how to write and how to direct,
and we'd have to make
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all our own props and all our own
costumes, and we'd be onstage
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trying to make fishing lines and stuff.
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But it's summer end, and way back
before... my background's painting,
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so I was already used to composition
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and art and all that stuff.
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But again... I didn't really...
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I got so disheartened and disenchanted
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by the whole gallery thing
and art and the art world in general,
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but then, through film, found a medium
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with which to address everything
that I was into.
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So music and art and performance
and writing and storytelling,
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which was actually ultimately the thing.
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But all of my first three films
were super low-budget
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and just talking about recycling things,
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in What We Do in the Shadows,
we said to Weta Workshop, I said to Rich
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and one of those guys, "Is there anythingyou rejected from Lord of the Rings?
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"Like creatures you thought
you might want to use,
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"and then just rejected them?"
And they're like,
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"Yeah, there's actually pieces of crap
that we don't want."
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So I'm like, "We'll take those."
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It was like old teeth and you know,
some, like, old elf ears
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that had been thrown, discarded,
and we're like,
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"We'll make it a cool vampire
with pointy ears."
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Yeah, so I'm used to working like that,
you know, just making do,
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- and smoke and mirrors.
- But you got into visual effects too,
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because by the time you showed up,
you were sort of the...
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experienced, you were sort of the ringer,
'cause you had done
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- Thor Ragnarok.
- I'd done that,
459
00:26:38,182 --> 00:26:40,809
and a lot of the effectson What We Do in the Shadows as well.
460
00:26:40,893 --> 00:26:42,811
I'd done a lot of commercials...
461
00:26:42,895 --> 00:26:46,064
So over the years, I picked up jargon.
462
00:26:46,148 --> 00:26:47,524
And...
463
00:26:50,027 --> 00:26:53,155
I could trick the computer people
into thinking I knew
464
00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:55,449
- what I was talking about.
- What sort of...
465
00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:57,993
Well, I mean,
466
00:26:58,076 --> 00:27:00,204
I can't remember any of it now.
467
00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:06,418
Well...
468
00:27:10,297 --> 00:27:13,425
I found it very difficult
hanging out with the other directors.
469
00:27:13,509 --> 00:27:16,053
They're very arrogant.
470
00:27:16,136 --> 00:27:21,767
Bryce is... I wouldn't say
I'm a hardcore fan.
471
00:27:23,644 --> 00:27:26,980
The whole production to be amateur.
No one knew what they're doing.
472
00:27:27,064 --> 00:27:31,652
The quality of the filmmaking,
the quality of the sets was just abysmal.
473
00:27:31,735 --> 00:27:34,154
I was quite frankly embarrassed
to be involved.
474
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,206
Out here, we got Mr. Taika Waititi,
475
00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:48,168
a wonderful action-comedy director,
so this is a treat.
476
00:27:50,712 --> 00:27:54,341
Taika's, of course, done Thor,
so he brings that experience.
477
00:27:54,424 --> 00:27:57,135
You see the intensity
in his mind and how he works.
478
00:27:59,096 --> 00:28:02,224
He's serious, thoughtful,
yet also playful.
479
00:28:02,307 --> 00:28:04,351
He has an enthusiasm that's palpable.
480
00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:05,435
Well...
481
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:10,983
He knew exactly what he wanted to shoot
and had a sense of humor about it.
482
00:28:12,651 --> 00:28:14,695
Come on, baby! Do the magic hand thing.
483
00:28:14,778 --> 00:28:17,614
Taika knows how to find the humor
in the action.
484
00:28:17,698 --> 00:28:20,868
That's different than making fun
of action, we don't make fun of it.
485
00:28:21,618 --> 00:28:24,872
This whole series,
though there's humorous moments,
486
00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:30,127
it's a serious story. And it fits
perfectly within that Star Wars canon.
487
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:34,631
It doesn't take itself 100% seriously,
but it does believe in itself.
488
00:28:43,432 --> 00:28:48,854
I really loved this way of working
with all of these directors.
489
00:28:48,937 --> 00:28:54,401
And what also helped a lot
was the presence of Jon and Dave around,
490
00:28:54,484 --> 00:29:00,073
basically just to keep me
from veering out of the lane too far.
491
00:29:00,824 --> 00:29:03,202
It was a different experience
to get to work
492
00:29:03,285 --> 00:29:06,455
with other directors in creating a show.
493
00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:09,666
And we can also bounce ideas
off each other, to say like,
494
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:12,586
"What do you think of this?"
or "Does this make sense?"
495
00:29:12,669 --> 00:29:16,256
And I just think the key is
you hire good people.
496
00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:19,384
Get caught up in what their talents are.
I mean, obviously,
497
00:29:19,468 --> 00:29:23,764
to have done the work that they've
all done, they're all really talented.
498
00:29:23,847 --> 00:29:27,267
But the big difference is,
what kind of person are you?
499
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,230
We all get in a room, and I think,
500
00:29:31,313 --> 00:29:34,900
because this is so new to many of us,
501
00:29:34,983 --> 00:29:39,947
that we all get together on it,
and it becomes a real team thing.
502
00:29:40,030 --> 00:29:43,575
Everybody's bringing
their unique perspective to this,
503
00:29:43,659 --> 00:29:49,581
and I think that ultimately makes us
stronger, makes this a better story.
504
00:29:49,665 --> 00:29:52,960
They all ask questions about the script,
and Jon and I are like,
505
00:29:53,043 --> 00:29:56,797
"Ooh, we didn't see that."
But then we're willing to fix it,
506
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,549
and find new ways to do things.
507
00:29:58,632 --> 00:30:04,012
I don't know,
it almost is like a Star Wars school.
508
00:30:08,517 --> 00:30:10,352
I like hiring smart people.
509
00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:13,480
To me, if you have smart people
who are curious and creative,
510
00:30:13,564 --> 00:30:16,400
but if they're inspired and they're sharp,
511
00:30:16,483 --> 00:30:21,905
they'll be able to learn. And really,
directing, what you're learning is
512
00:30:21,989 --> 00:30:24,616
you have to learn every day,
because you're presented
513
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,411
with a new set of circumstances,
and you have to adapt.
514
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:31,373
If you stick to the playbook,
you're not gonna succeed.
515
00:30:31,456 --> 00:30:36,670
And that's what's different
from writing or animation,
516
00:30:36,753 --> 00:30:41,091
where opportunities present themselves,
but at a much lower rate.
517
00:30:41,175 --> 00:30:43,385
The opportunities
are hitting you constantly,
518
00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,804
but they might seem like challenges.
519
00:30:45,888 --> 00:30:50,767
But really, somebody who's creative
and who's smart will not be afraid
520
00:30:50,851 --> 00:30:55,439
to kind of jump out of the plane
before the parachute comes out after you.
521
00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:59,568
And, so, everybody here
are creatively brave.
522
00:30:59,651 --> 00:31:03,405
That's really the unifying thing,
you all have various levels of experience,
523
00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:07,409
different backgrounds, different genres
or media that you come from.
524
00:31:07,492 --> 00:31:11,038
But everybody, I think
there is something. I think that's why
525
00:31:11,121 --> 00:31:13,373
everybody kind of
clicked so well together.
526
00:31:13,397 --> 00:31:16,397
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