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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,175 --> 00:00:06,310 [ELECTRIC GUITARS PLAYING SOFTLY] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:25,982 --> 00:00:27,070 SINGER: I wonder why that is. 5 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:35,600 The paper boy don't come no more. 6 00:00:37,733 --> 00:00:38,908 JOES MEYEROWITZ [VOICEOVER]: Why do 7 00:00:38,951 --> 00:00:42,738 some photographers go to the street, 8 00:00:42,781 --> 00:00:44,653 and other photographers go to a studio? 9 00:01:02,149 --> 00:01:04,586 Some people want to pretend it's a movie, 10 00:01:04,629 --> 00:01:07,719 and other photographers walk into the world and they say, 11 00:01:07,763 --> 00:01:08,503 show me. 12 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:32,048 Those select few, through time, who are willing to go out 13 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:37,445 into chaos with some high hopes of interacting 14 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:42,450 with a moment where life will become clarified for them. 15 00:01:46,758 --> 00:01:51,154 They can welcome ambiguity and surreal 16 00:01:51,198 --> 00:01:54,636 aspects of this kind of chaos. 17 00:01:54,679 --> 00:01:56,812 Even though it's chaos, they will 18 00:01:56,855 --> 00:01:57,987 have a moment of clarification. 19 00:02:20,966 --> 00:02:26,494 [vibraphone playing] 20 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:00,397 JOEL MEYEROWITZ: I was an art director 21 00:03:00,441 --> 00:03:04,749 and Robert Frank shot this job for me, 22 00:03:04,793 --> 00:03:07,230 and it was so interesting, I had never seen 23 00:03:07,274 --> 00:03:08,927 a real photographer before. 24 00:03:08,971 --> 00:03:13,193 He just was so physical and he moved so agilely, 25 00:03:13,236 --> 00:03:17,109 and he was balletic, and and he kind of whispered to the girls 26 00:03:17,153 --> 00:03:19,416 as he was photographing them. 27 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:22,637 And I left that shoot two hours later 28 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,508 and I went out on the street and suddenly everything 29 00:03:24,552 --> 00:03:26,858 on the street was alive to me. 30 00:03:26,902 --> 00:03:30,384 Someone waiting for a taxi, two people hugging goodbye, 31 00:03:30,427 --> 00:03:34,475 and I started saying, click, click, click, in my mind. 32 00:03:34,518 --> 00:03:38,653 And by the time I got back to my office I knew I had to leave. 33 00:03:38,696 --> 00:03:40,263 I walked into my office, art director 34 00:03:40,307 --> 00:03:42,483 said, how did the shoot go? 35 00:03:42,526 --> 00:03:45,399 And I said, it was great, I'm quitting. 36 00:03:45,442 --> 00:03:47,314 And he said, why what are you going to do? 37 00:03:47,357 --> 00:03:49,925 I said, I want to be a photographer. 38 00:03:49,968 --> 00:03:51,970 And I remember he asked me the crucial question he said, 39 00:03:52,014 --> 00:03:54,190 do you have a camera? 40 00:03:54,234 --> 00:03:56,714 I said, no I don't have a camera. 41 00:03:56,758 --> 00:03:58,281 He said, how are you going to make pictures 42 00:03:58,325 --> 00:03:59,935 if you don't have a camera? 43 00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:03,460 And he opened his drawer, and he handed me his camera, Pentax, 44 00:04:03,504 --> 00:04:06,246 and he said, here, use this until you get a camera. 45 00:04:06,289 --> 00:04:10,772 So that for me was the beginning. 46 00:04:10,815 --> 00:04:15,124 I wandered the streets not knowing what I was shooting. 47 00:04:15,167 --> 00:04:18,214 I just knew I had to be out there watching life 48 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:22,523 because I was interested in the way people did things. 49 00:04:22,566 --> 00:04:24,612 It seemed to me that's what you photographed, 50 00:04:24,655 --> 00:04:27,876 the instantaneous gesture when somebody 51 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:30,357 made some kind of a motion, or did something physical. 52 00:04:37,364 --> 00:04:41,716 I think that part of what you love when you're 53 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:46,155 a street photographer is this kind of sensibility that 54 00:04:46,198 --> 00:04:51,421 develops where you think you understand something about, not 55 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:53,118 only the person you're photographing, 56 00:04:53,162 --> 00:04:54,294 or the group you're photographing, 57 00:04:54,337 --> 00:04:55,860 but the culture at large. 58 00:05:04,434 --> 00:05:07,002 Responding to things, and at the same time 59 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:10,440 you're learning what they mean to you. 60 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:12,747 What does a gesture signify? 61 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:17,839 What does a certain kind of person make you feel like? 62 00:05:17,882 --> 00:05:21,495 You learn to deepen your way of reading these signs. 63 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,938 It's the joy of the exchange. 64 00:05:29,981 --> 00:05:34,421 Only I can identify with them in this way. 65 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,824 So it's a way of learning to read 66 00:05:46,868 --> 00:05:49,958 your culture, which is, I think, a great fascination 67 00:05:50,001 --> 00:05:50,654 for photographers. 68 00:06:22,207 --> 00:06:25,385 [camera snaps] 69 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:38,528 [camera snaps] 70 00:06:47,581 --> 00:06:50,845 [camera snaps] 71 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:57,808 [camera snaps] 72 00:07:01,159 --> 00:07:03,335 [techno music plays] 73 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,429 BOOGIE: I carry my camera with me, at least one 74 00:07:09,472 --> 00:07:12,693 camera with me, at all times. 75 00:07:12,736 --> 00:07:15,217 You really never know when something's going to happen. 76 00:07:15,260 --> 00:07:16,740 It's like a Samurai. 77 00:07:16,784 --> 00:07:20,744 But, you don't have time to think, you just react. 78 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,630 I was born and raised in Belgrade, Serbia. 79 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:38,936 It was amazing, you know, because we grew 80 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:40,721 up in a perfectly safe society. 81 00:07:44,246 --> 00:07:47,554 Then all of a sudden, it just became terrible. 82 00:07:47,597 --> 00:07:50,861 All of a sudden we had war going on all around, 83 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:53,603 people were coming back from the front lines half insane, 84 00:07:53,647 --> 00:07:56,606 a lot of weapons, crime was on the rise. 85 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:02,177 I think I started to take pictures 86 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:06,398 of in the midst of the insanity, of the chaos and sanctions. 87 00:08:06,442 --> 00:08:09,967 Basically I tried to preserve my sanity, you know, 88 00:08:10,011 --> 00:08:11,447 because when you're behind the camera 89 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:13,536 you're not a participant, you're just an observer. 90 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,246 In 2003 I started shooting these junkies and gangsters 91 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:29,291 in Bushwick, Bed-stuy. 92 00:08:35,384 --> 00:08:37,691 What can they do to me? 93 00:08:37,734 --> 00:08:38,866 They can kill me, so what? 94 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:39,519 Yeah. 95 00:08:46,482 --> 00:08:48,528 I remember a couple of times I was 96 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:53,576 in with some scary situations, and my hands would shake 97 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:55,230 when I would change the roll. 98 00:08:55,273 --> 00:08:57,537 My hands were shaking, literally. 99 00:08:57,580 --> 00:09:02,237 But then when I would start shooting, no, 100 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,067 still, like a wolf, they can't sense any fear. 101 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:08,460 And you can't fake that. 102 00:09:11,420 --> 00:09:15,555 It's like, OK, she's sitting on a toilet, shooting up, 103 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:19,559 and I'm standing on a bathtub taking pictures, and I'm fine. 104 00:09:19,602 --> 00:09:21,648 It's like, cold, no feeling. 105 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:36,532 For me it's becoming what you're shooting. 106 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:38,360 We have to get into their heads. 107 00:09:38,403 --> 00:09:40,667 My accent, I think, helps. 108 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:43,974 You know I don't sound like anyone they hate, 109 00:09:44,018 --> 00:09:46,150 and then in a way we develop some kind of relationship. 110 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:52,635 Of course I was offered crack many times, 111 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,900 one guy was like, hey man, hey you want some crack? 112 00:09:56,944 --> 00:09:58,946 Hey man, no, I have an addictive personality, 113 00:09:58,989 --> 00:10:00,077 I don't want to do it. 114 00:10:00,121 --> 00:10:01,426 But crack is not addictive. 115 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:04,995 I'm like, come on man, shut up, look at you. 116 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:06,431 He's like, yeah, you're right man. 117 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:19,444 Gang kids, they asked, hey Boogie, 118 00:10:19,488 --> 00:10:21,664 would you like to take some pictures of us with guns? 119 00:10:21,708 --> 00:10:24,319 And I just couldn't believe it was happening. 120 00:10:24,362 --> 00:10:25,929 I'm like, yeah. 121 00:10:25,973 --> 00:10:29,411 And then we are in the hallway of the projects, 122 00:10:29,454 --> 00:10:30,847 loading guns, bang, bang. 123 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:38,420 And it wasn't just about taking pictures at that point, 124 00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:39,247 it was just about being there. 125 00:10:48,212 --> 00:10:50,214 You know this thing like, there are lines 126 00:10:50,258 --> 00:10:52,434 that shouldn't be crossed. 127 00:10:52,477 --> 00:10:53,870 What are those lines? 128 00:10:53,914 --> 00:10:57,091 The deeper you go, the better pictures you'll take. 129 00:10:57,134 --> 00:10:59,876 And it becomes like, the most important thing in your life. 130 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,793 And it can ultimately fuck you up, this trail. 131 00:11:12,497 --> 00:11:16,632 I thought I would continue the project in some way, 132 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,895 but it was just so depressing. 133 00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:22,943 I would go there and I couldn't recover for a week. 134 00:11:22,986 --> 00:11:24,858 This chapter was closed, it was over. 135 00:11:28,818 --> 00:11:33,257 After the book was done I gave it to some people over there. 136 00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:35,346 They loved it. 137 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:40,134 I think they feel like they're leaving something behind. 138 00:11:40,177 --> 00:11:45,226 Same thing with photographers, you 139 00:11:45,269 --> 00:11:48,882 feel better knowing that, I don't know, 140 00:11:48,925 --> 00:11:50,666 in many years you won't to be around, 141 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:53,147 but your book will still be in some bookstore. 142 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,584 And someone will look at it. 143 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:59,370 And you feel like you become immortal. 144 00:13:06,263 --> 00:13:08,004 MAX KOZLOFF: People with cameras who 145 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:12,792 want to photograph New York, and do it kind of a justice 146 00:13:12,835 --> 00:13:15,316 have a problem. 147 00:13:15,359 --> 00:13:17,622 Here is a city where everything happens almost, 148 00:13:17,666 --> 00:13:18,667 it seems, at once. 149 00:13:26,501 --> 00:13:35,031 Noise, movement, combustions, energy, dissonance, danger. 150 00:13:43,605 --> 00:13:46,477 New York photographers have to take all those matters 151 00:13:46,521 --> 00:13:54,094 into account to do some kind of record that encompasses 152 00:13:54,137 --> 00:13:57,401 a human setting, and a cluster of variables 153 00:13:57,445 --> 00:13:58,402 that defy imagination. 154 00:14:01,275 --> 00:14:05,453 So it was no wonder that a number of photographers 155 00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:08,456 grew up taking advantage of this, 156 00:14:08,499 --> 00:14:12,721 what I call, volatile proximity of citizens to each other. 157 00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:21,398 It seems one will never catch up if one does this in New York. 158 00:15:21,442 --> 00:15:23,879 And that's what advances the motivations 159 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:24,924 of everyone who tries it. 160 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:44,813 MARTHA COOPER: When I first moved to New York, which 161 00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:48,512 was in 1975, I got a job with the New York Post, 162 00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:50,340 and of course we were shooting film. 163 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:53,126 And I had two cameras and both cameras were loaded, 164 00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:55,606 so I often had a lot of film left over. 165 00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:58,653 It just became my habit, at the end of the day, 166 00:15:58,696 --> 00:16:03,571 to cruise through alphabet city on my way back to the post. 167 00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:05,225 The Lower East Side at the time was 168 00:16:05,268 --> 00:16:09,490 a complete, like, bombed out, war-zone. 169 00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:12,319 Vast empty areas and vacant lots. 170 00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:20,327 What I learned when I was studying anthropology 171 00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:23,504 was definitely the point of view I had when I was taking 172 00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:25,114 pictures in New York, which is sort 173 00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:26,463 of an ethnographic point of view, 174 00:16:26,507 --> 00:16:30,163 as opposed to trying to be an artist. 175 00:16:30,206 --> 00:16:33,993 I'm not trying to do a kind of investigative reporting 176 00:16:34,036 --> 00:16:37,997 where I'm showing the evils of landlords, for example. 177 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,044 I'm more about public space, and how people are using the space, 178 00:16:42,088 --> 00:16:44,829 and how people are surviving, and how they're 179 00:16:44,873 --> 00:16:47,702 using the raw materials that become available when all 180 00:16:47,745 --> 00:16:51,488 these buildings are torn down to maybe build a little go-cart, 181 00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:52,750 or build a little clubhouse. 182 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:01,063 And that was the sort of thing I was looking for. 183 00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:03,239 Anything this ephemeral is like, wonderful subject 184 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:05,328 matter for a still photograph. 185 00:17:05,372 --> 00:17:07,591 You know it's not going to be around for long, 186 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,290 and in just less than a second you can take a picture 187 00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:13,945 and preserve it. 188 00:17:13,989 --> 00:17:17,949 [funky organ playing] 189 00:17:24,478 --> 00:17:26,741 One of the kids that had been flying pigeons 190 00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,656 showed me his little book of drawings, 191 00:17:28,699 --> 00:17:31,789 and that's how I got into graffiti. 192 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:34,444 There were a handful of people taking pictures of graffiti. 193 00:17:34,488 --> 00:17:37,882 And if we hadn't been, well then, a lot of it 194 00:17:37,926 --> 00:17:40,581 would have been lost. 195 00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:48,154 [bass and drums playing] 196 00:18:11,351 --> 00:18:14,267 It looks as if every car was covered 197 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:16,878 with this beautiful graffiti, but in fact 198 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:20,273 you could and stand for five hours and never even get one. 199 00:18:20,316 --> 00:18:23,972 It was not easy to catch those trains. 200 00:18:24,015 --> 00:18:27,541 I mean I would wake up before dawn, in the winter when it was 201 00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:31,980 cold, and go up to the Bronx and stand in a vacant lot for hours 202 00:18:32,023 --> 00:18:34,113 just waiting for the train to come by, 203 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:35,853 and sometimes nothing would come by, 204 00:18:35,897 --> 00:18:39,161 and I used to get calls, Yo Martha, 205 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:41,816 we did a piece on the whatever. 206 00:18:41,859 --> 00:18:44,906 MAN [ON RECORDING]: [inaudible] on the six line, 207 00:18:44,949 --> 00:18:48,953 bright colors, last lot [inaudible] talking about, 208 00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:49,780 Vice Boys, you know the crew. 209 00:18:53,349 --> 00:18:55,046 MARTHA COOPER: For me it was always 210 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:57,179 a matter of getting the right background 211 00:18:57,223 --> 00:18:58,485 with the right train. 212 00:18:58,528 --> 00:19:01,140 I don't want to see 10 pictures of trains 213 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:02,184 with the same background. 214 00:19:02,228 --> 00:19:04,055 So if you look at subway art, you 215 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:07,320 won't see the same background, because once I got a really 216 00:19:07,363 --> 00:19:10,149 nice piece with a really nice background 217 00:19:10,192 --> 00:19:12,934 I would go find another background, 218 00:19:12,977 --> 00:19:14,196 stand in another vacant lot. 219 00:19:19,288 --> 00:19:22,465 Bottom line is, you've captured something that actually might 220 00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:24,989 be of interest in the future. 221 00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:28,297 And it's not until things are gone that you realize that you 222 00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:29,342 miss taking a picture of them. 223 00:19:44,661 --> 00:19:45,271 JILL FREEDMAN: Hi guys. 224 00:19:50,058 --> 00:19:51,973 How you doing? 225 00:19:52,016 --> 00:19:52,974 Jesus. 226 00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:54,976 Hard-ons aren't they? 227 00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:55,890 Bunch of hard-ons. 228 00:20:00,242 --> 00:20:04,203 CROWD: If you are a photographer 229 00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:11,732 or you are videotaping you have the right 230 00:20:11,775 --> 00:20:21,437 to do so within a reasonable distance of the police. 231 00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:26,399 If the police ask you to move back, 232 00:20:26,442 --> 00:20:31,665 move back as little as possible. 233 00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:43,329 You're interested in photography? 234 00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:45,287 I need to. 235 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:46,636 Well you know I have an exhibition 236 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,942 of photographs on now. 237 00:20:47,985 --> 00:20:49,204 Really, where is it? 238 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:54,905 Madison Avenue between 65th and 66th. 239 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:56,298 Madison, 65th and 66th. 240 00:20:56,342 --> 00:20:59,345 The show is called street cops. 241 00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:01,521 It's from a book I did that came out 242 00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:07,527 in '81, nice precinct in Midtown South, 30 years ago 243 00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:10,138 when there were real cops. 244 00:21:10,181 --> 00:21:15,665 [electric guitar plays] 245 00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:43,345 I have never seen a book about good cops. 246 00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:47,393 I have seen books about the bums, the crooks, the creeps. 247 00:21:47,436 --> 00:21:49,786 I've always seen all the bad behavior. 248 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:52,485 I have never seen a book about a good cop, 249 00:21:52,528 --> 00:21:58,186 and certainly not photographs, and certainly not 250 00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:00,362 showing what is the job. 251 00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:04,714 Simply, what does it mean to be a cop in New York City? 252 00:22:04,758 --> 00:22:08,327 Well in the beginning I would do a couple double tours, go 253 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:11,286 on a four to 12, do that or maybe I'd 254 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,897 go a little into midnight, and still 255 00:22:13,941 --> 00:22:18,075 manage to miss the one time they had a delivery of a baby. 256 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,382 Fell into the woman's pantyhose, that's 257 00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:21,862 why I had to be in the first car, 258 00:22:21,905 --> 00:22:23,820 if I got there a second later, I didn't get the shot. 259 00:22:35,789 --> 00:22:38,182 When I was doing the job everybody didn't have a camera 260 00:22:38,226 --> 00:22:43,100 and I worked on being invisible. 261 00:22:43,144 --> 00:22:44,406 Although when I first started, they 262 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:47,931 got some bad guy, some malefactor, 263 00:22:47,975 --> 00:22:50,412 and they were cuffing him and putting him in a car, 264 00:22:50,456 --> 00:22:52,066 and he said, get that fucking bitch and a camera 265 00:22:52,109 --> 00:22:53,589 away from me. 266 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:56,592 I thought, that's the least of your problems, pal. 267 00:22:56,636 --> 00:22:58,899 If they don't do the crime, don't get your picture, 268 00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,422 you know? 269 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:01,380 And shut the fuck up furthermore. 270 00:23:07,081 --> 00:23:10,563 Yeah they were afraid of me, I'm a tough mother. 271 00:23:10,606 --> 00:23:13,435 Fuckin' A they were afraid of me. 272 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:15,263 Those are the perpetrators who were cuffed, 273 00:23:15,306 --> 00:23:17,831 and there's blood on the floor, a pack of Pall-Malls, 274 00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:20,790 in the blood, and the [inaudible] I suppose, 275 00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:22,444 is supposed to be [inaudible], leaned over, came over 276 00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:23,663 to the table, you know because he 277 00:23:23,706 --> 00:23:24,577 wanted to get in the picture. 278 00:23:29,016 --> 00:23:33,020 And I was scared most of time, you know, well, violence. 279 00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:33,890 I want you to-- boom! 280 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:36,502 That's it, you're gone. 281 00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:38,634 We ran to a thing, the kid was shot 282 00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:40,767 in the stomach with a shotgun. 283 00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:42,812 The true color of violence, not red like ketchup, 284 00:23:42,856 --> 00:23:44,640 gray like dead. 285 00:23:44,684 --> 00:23:47,469 And the book was about that, this is 286 00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,428 not a movie this is not the TV. 287 00:24:10,013 --> 00:24:14,278 It's an honor to be able to make a good photograph of anyone, 288 00:24:14,322 --> 00:24:16,846 and it's a great privilege. 289 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:21,503 It's the only tool that will stop time itself. 290 00:24:27,596 --> 00:24:31,513 I majored in sociology and cultural anthropology, 291 00:24:31,557 --> 00:24:34,908 and I thought all I wanted to do was get out into the world. 292 00:24:34,951 --> 00:24:36,779 And I only realised that that's what 293 00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:39,782 I was doing with the camera. 294 00:24:39,826 --> 00:24:42,742 So by the firemen again, it was no question 295 00:24:42,785 --> 00:24:46,833 that I'm going to run in like, and do a journalism thing. 296 00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:50,227 I wrote in the book, they're like soldiers 297 00:24:50,271 --> 00:24:52,665 and they will die for someone else 298 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:55,058 or someone else's property. 299 00:24:55,102 --> 00:24:57,757 They're not like soldiers, they do not kill. 300 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,890 They bring life, not death. 301 00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:01,717 And this is how I proceeded. 302 00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:08,942 What I saw was men that really love each other. 303 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:11,205 And usually it's a pity that that only 304 00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:13,381 happens in the front lines and in combat. 305 00:25:16,689 --> 00:25:20,997 And I got to see the genuine affection and the love 306 00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:25,132 and the working together and the lack of the stupid crap. 307 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:32,443 Gentleness, the gentle giant kind of thing, with the hand 308 00:25:32,487 --> 00:25:35,751 on the head, how tender. 309 00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:38,449 It is firstly a big man being gentle, 310 00:25:38,493 --> 00:25:43,629 oh, it just always gets me. 311 00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:47,981 They saved this whole family, that they thought the building 312 00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:50,636 have been emptied, and one of my guys 313 00:25:50,679 --> 00:25:53,682 heard the grandmother crying above the fire floor, 314 00:25:53,726 --> 00:25:58,165 so I had to walk away on that one. 315 00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:01,385 I was being touched all the time, 316 00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:03,474 but I knew I'd die before anyone saw me cry. 317 00:26:31,415 --> 00:26:33,069 That's how many we lost, 343. 318 00:26:41,861 --> 00:26:48,519 Oh, wow, wow, oh wow. 319 00:26:48,563 --> 00:26:49,433 [crying] 320 00:27:07,974 --> 00:27:16,722 [ELECTRIC GUITAR AND DRUMS PLAYING] 321 00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:05,596 JEFF MERMELSTEIN: So I moved to New York in 1978, 322 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,557 and I guess I brought with me a naivete, an unknowingness, 323 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,213 a freshness, of having grown up on a typical suburban block. 324 00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:17,086 So I bring with me a different kind of a sponge. 325 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:34,234 I immediately fell in love with the energy and all 326 00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:37,454 that it's made up of. 327 00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:39,630 The density of the people, and who they are, 328 00:28:39,674 --> 00:28:40,719 and what they're doing. 329 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,557 I like busy streets. 330 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:56,082 I like empty streets. 331 00:28:56,125 --> 00:28:58,040 Sometimes I'll see something on the ground 332 00:28:58,084 --> 00:29:01,609 and it has no people in it. 333 00:29:01,652 --> 00:29:03,263 I'm always looking in storefronts 334 00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,787 and bank windows and cafes, and I 335 00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:07,789 like going into the whirlwind. 336 00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:09,138 I like it all. 337 00:29:09,182 --> 00:29:09,922 I really like it all. 338 00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:22,369 One of the most exciting things in this kind of photography 339 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:24,719 is the ingredient of surprise, not only 340 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,982 surprise at what your encounter might be in the real world, 341 00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,332 but what you get back on the film. 342 00:29:29,376 --> 00:29:32,161 That's part of the reason why we're excited to get our film. 343 00:29:32,205 --> 00:29:33,989 I don't care how many rolls I take of something. 344 00:29:34,033 --> 00:29:35,730 To me that doesn't matter at all. 345 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,254 It's not like a contest. 346 00:29:38,298 --> 00:29:40,648 Sometimes a picture will happen single, 347 00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:42,345 but often it will not happen that way. 348 00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:45,174 And clearly I have a memory of the burning shoe. 349 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:47,394 When I saw a burning shoe I couldn't-- I mean, 350 00:29:47,437 --> 00:29:48,961 I couldn't believe it. 351 00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:50,614 I couldn't have thought about it, 352 00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:53,139 I couldn't have thought of it happening. 353 00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:56,098 And I was like, how much film do I have? 354 00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:58,318 So I had like three rolls that day, 355 00:29:58,361 --> 00:30:02,409 and I have at least maybe, I don't know, seven frames. 356 00:30:02,452 --> 00:30:03,932 You know they're going to vary, this has 357 00:30:03,976 --> 00:30:06,021 a particular pedestrian, a particular amount of smoke, 358 00:30:06,065 --> 00:30:06,848 and distance. 359 00:30:06,892 --> 00:30:09,372 I really worked the shoe. 360 00:30:09,416 --> 00:30:09,982 [organ and drums playing] 361 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,995 Some people think my pictures are funny. 362 00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:24,431 I didn't realize that. 363 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,781 And it makes me excited. 364 00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:27,608 It's hard to be funny. 365 00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:44,103 I do whatever I can to help me take my next picture. 366 00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:48,194 I just sniff something that way, I'll go that way. 367 00:30:48,237 --> 00:30:53,590 And it's totally instinctual, and so like when I'm out there 368 00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:57,072 I could just do whatever. 369 00:30:57,116 --> 00:30:59,379 It's not really a casual thing, it's 370 00:30:59,422 --> 00:31:02,121 pushing my intuition in such a way that might 371 00:31:02,164 --> 00:31:04,384 relate to a jazz musician. 372 00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:07,604 And I'm not musical at all, but it must relate somehow 373 00:31:07,648 --> 00:31:08,910 to that process of creativity. 374 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:15,699 I know how much film or time it takes to make 375 00:31:15,743 --> 00:31:17,876 a an interesting photograph. 376 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,574 There is a luck, but I believe it was Helen Levitt that said 377 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,055 that you create your luck, and there's a lot of work 378 00:31:23,098 --> 00:31:25,361 involved in creating luck. 379 00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:26,014 [bass and drums playing] 380 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:37,460 MAX KOZLOFF: Helen Levitt was a diminutive woman walking 381 00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:41,377 with a small miniature camera, able to conceal 382 00:31:41,421 --> 00:31:45,338 her activities because of her modest presence, 383 00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:47,906 and agile movement. 384 00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:51,213 The work she produced is figurative 385 00:31:51,257 --> 00:31:53,955 in our imaginative memories of New York 386 00:31:53,999 --> 00:31:59,091 because of both the warmth and the pathos of the sightings 387 00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:02,094 she made of children, and immigrants, and poor people, 388 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:05,401 and communities, all hugger-mugger together 389 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,316 in a kind of exquisite concord. 390 00:32:12,017 --> 00:32:14,062 Lisette Model, she had a Rolleiflex 391 00:32:14,106 --> 00:32:17,631 where she'd have to look down into the viewfinder. 392 00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:21,896 The result was many of her figures seem to loom enormously 393 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:26,205 and prodigiously on the horizon, above which, 394 00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:30,861 there loomed these enormous skyscrapers. 395 00:32:30,905 --> 00:32:33,125 She made these figures incredibly 396 00:32:33,168 --> 00:32:38,695 monumental, impending, sinister sometimes, 397 00:32:38,739 --> 00:32:40,959 morbid, and unforgettable. 398 00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:49,793 The phenomenon of Diane Arbus, so memorable 399 00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:54,668 in her understanding of photographic past in New York. 400 00:32:54,711 --> 00:32:59,716 Very unique, unrepeatable, idiosyncratic in the extreme 401 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:06,593 in her idea that the banality of everyday existence was in fact 402 00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:11,163 a possible source of horror and perversion. 403 00:33:11,206 --> 00:33:14,993 Arbus upturned, pulled a rug from, 404 00:33:15,036 --> 00:33:17,038 our notions that everything was getting 405 00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:19,475 going along as it should. 406 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,001 There was a kind of subliminal freakishness 407 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:27,570 in many of the characters she photographed. 408 00:33:27,614 --> 00:33:29,616 After Arbus, New York photography 409 00:33:29,659 --> 00:33:30,747 would never remain the same. 410 00:33:36,144 --> 00:33:39,017 Nobody really thought about style in photography 411 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,671 for much of the 19th century, and it's not 412 00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:46,589 until the late 1880s really you get to Stieglitz and Emerson, 413 00:33:46,633 --> 00:33:48,417 and various other people in Britain 414 00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:50,071 as well as United States. 415 00:33:50,115 --> 00:33:52,987 And this trickles down to art photography, all the magazines, 416 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,511 and soon you have dentists in [inaudible] 417 00:33:55,555 --> 00:33:58,775 taking pictures of trees at sunset that look Japanese. 418 00:33:58,819 --> 00:34:01,822 And then meanwhile all along there's 419 00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:06,131 been this great documentary photography that 420 00:34:06,174 --> 00:34:08,263 passed unnoticed it the time. 421 00:34:08,307 --> 00:34:12,398 And there were a lot of these, sort of, citizen photographers. 422 00:34:12,441 --> 00:34:16,141 Also I think of the photo league, that great institution, 423 00:34:16,184 --> 00:34:18,578 some of whom made interesting pictures by accident, 424 00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:21,581 and some of whom were, like, real artists. 425 00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:49,261 REBECCA LEPKOFF: I saw an article in, I think it was PM, 426 00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,872 about the Photo League and their workshop, 427 00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:54,614 and there was a little photo on there. 428 00:34:54,657 --> 00:34:58,705 And I said, the philosophy they have, this is what I'm doing 429 00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:01,360 by myself, you know photographing the way 430 00:35:01,403 --> 00:35:05,581 people lived, where they lived, how they lived, 431 00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:10,456 what they were doing, how you see the way they lived. 432 00:35:10,499 --> 00:35:12,458 It was having to do with humanity. 433 00:35:19,508 --> 00:35:23,164 I went to visit them I ended up signing up 434 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,601 for one of these dance classes. 435 00:35:25,645 --> 00:35:29,997 Dance must have help me, we used to study choreography. 436 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,131 Space had a lot to do with dance. 437 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:35,872 The space you're making and the space where 438 00:35:35,916 --> 00:35:38,875 you're standing on the stage. 439 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:42,140 She just moved the space of the stage onto the street. 440 00:36:02,203 --> 00:36:10,168 The camera is supposed to make a document of how things are, 441 00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:16,478 how people looked maybe in 1950 with their Stetson hats 442 00:36:16,522 --> 00:36:20,090 kerchiefs, or how their dresses looked, 443 00:36:20,134 --> 00:36:22,745 or how the tenements looked. 444 00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:26,009 I just kept, for years, taking photographs 445 00:36:26,053 --> 00:36:27,228 of the Lower East Side. 446 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,973 During the glory of the Photo League 447 00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:35,976 there's so many of the famous photographers 448 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:41,416 used to come down and spend time talking and meeting people. 449 00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,158 I wonder if the Photo League didn't get 450 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:47,770 busted out, how they would be. 451 00:36:47,814 --> 00:36:53,428 It was labeled un-American, and if the FBI was around 452 00:36:53,472 --> 00:36:58,216 and they got a list, they could really grab you. 453 00:36:58,259 --> 00:37:02,872 People really stopped coming because they were fearful. 454 00:37:02,916 --> 00:37:06,876 It's just folded up. 455 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,272 You never talked about communism or anything, 456 00:37:11,316 --> 00:37:13,274 but they were always kept an eye on us 457 00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:17,060 because they felt we were close to the philosophy 458 00:37:17,104 --> 00:37:19,280 of the working people, of the poor people. 459 00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:31,988 MAN ON MEGAPHONE: Love it or leave it you fucking 460 00:37:32,032 --> 00:37:34,556 communist piece of shit! 461 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,211 Relax! 462 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:38,691 MAN: What's that telling them? 463 00:37:38,734 --> 00:37:40,214 They're saying that we're garbage and thats-- we are 464 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:40,867 citizens of the United States. 465 00:37:43,435 --> 00:37:46,481 What are you going to do with these films that you're making? 466 00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:47,830 CAMERAMAN: Oh I don't know. 467 00:37:47,874 --> 00:37:49,528 Hopefully they'll be important some day, right? 468 00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:51,138 Yeah you never know, you know? 469 00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:52,618 CAMERAMAN: Hopefully you'll be important someday, right? 470 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,796 CLAYTON PATTERSON: It seemed like one 471 00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:59,320 of the only places where I could fit in was New York. 472 00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:00,974 And I'm from Western Canada which 473 00:38:01,017 --> 00:38:03,150 is very provincial, very conservative, very sort of 474 00:38:03,193 --> 00:38:05,631 like, backward in its own way. 475 00:38:05,674 --> 00:38:08,416 I don't know whether you want to call it ego, or ambition, 476 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,288 or whatever, but yeah, I thought that this 477 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:12,594 was-- I wanted to swim in the biggest pool, 478 00:38:12,638 --> 00:38:13,769 you know what I'm saying? 479 00:38:13,813 --> 00:38:15,945 So I wanted to jump into the deep end, 480 00:38:15,989 --> 00:38:17,730 so I ended up coming over here to the Lower East Side, 481 00:38:17,773 --> 00:38:19,688 and Lower East Side was sort of like perfect. 482 00:38:19,732 --> 00:38:22,909 I mean at that time it was like, dangerous and drugs, 483 00:38:22,952 --> 00:38:26,391 but it had a class of people who I could easily identify with. 484 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:30,003 And so that made it really, sort of, comfortable to be around, 485 00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:32,484 and also there was this whole kind of energy over here that 486 00:38:32,527 --> 00:38:36,183 was really sort of wild and free and outlaw-ish and all of that. 487 00:38:36,226 --> 00:38:37,271 And I found that to be very comfortable. 488 00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:43,582 The one thing I did consistently in all the time, 489 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:45,148 in terms of the street, was photographing 490 00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:46,498 people in front of my door. 491 00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:48,587 By photographing in front of my door 492 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:50,197 and then putting the pictures in the window, 493 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,068 and making these people famous, I eventually 494 00:38:52,112 --> 00:38:54,549 photographed the whole neighborhood, from 14th Street 495 00:38:54,593 --> 00:38:58,597 to the Brooklyn Bridge, which is huge. 496 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,250 A lot of the people that are in the pictures 497 00:39:00,294 --> 00:39:01,643 are the people that were on the streets, 498 00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:04,080 a lot of the drug sellers, the gangs, 499 00:39:04,124 --> 00:39:05,386 the bad guys, the good guys. 500 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:06,996 So a lot of times I would just do 501 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,737 little tricks like, instead of saying, cheese, I would say, 502 00:39:08,781 --> 00:39:09,999 pussy. 503 00:39:10,043 --> 00:39:11,610 And of course most guys will smile or laugh 504 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:13,351 when you say that, and then so you've 505 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,396 sort of captured them smiling. 506 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,658 And when you see them they just look 507 00:39:16,702 --> 00:39:19,357 like good normal kids or people, they 508 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,056 just look like regular people. 509 00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:25,580 It's not about you as an individual, 510 00:39:25,624 --> 00:39:28,061 it's about you as a community. 511 00:39:28,104 --> 00:39:30,933 So I think of my photography in multiple ways. 512 00:39:30,977 --> 00:39:33,675 I think of it as keeping things for the future and sort 513 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,417 of preserving this moment now for them, 514 00:39:36,461 --> 00:39:38,419 I think of it as an activist tool, 515 00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:40,726 I think of it as something that can 516 00:39:40,769 --> 00:39:43,163 give you access to places where you could never be before. 517 00:39:58,526 --> 00:40:00,572 The Tompkins Square Park police ride, 518 00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:04,314 that was August 6th or 7th, 1988, where a number of people 519 00:40:04,358 --> 00:40:06,012 were there and had videos and photographs, 520 00:40:06,055 --> 00:40:08,971 but they was sparse and few. 521 00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:11,409 Whereas I ended up with a three hour and 33 minute tape which, 522 00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:14,020 kind of, laid out the whole night. 523 00:40:14,063 --> 00:40:16,979 It really created a major amount of press and noise, 524 00:40:17,023 --> 00:40:19,025 so pretty soon I was on every TV station 525 00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:22,811 including Oprah, and CNN, and New York Times, all of them. 526 00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:24,117 OPRAH: Meet a man who went to jail, 527 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,293 rather than give police the videotape he made 528 00:40:26,336 --> 00:40:28,295 of a demonstration turned riot. 529 00:40:28,338 --> 00:40:29,644 It was a police riot. 530 00:40:29,688 --> 00:40:31,167 CLAYTON PATTERSON: That was the first time 531 00:40:31,211 --> 00:40:33,126 that the handheld video camera like that 532 00:40:33,169 --> 00:40:37,478 had ever been used as a protest tool, and as an activist tool, 533 00:40:37,522 --> 00:40:39,698 against government wrongdoing. 534 00:40:39,741 --> 00:40:42,004 It was that egalitarian factor that you 535 00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:45,965 didn't have to, you know, have gone to Harvard, 536 00:40:46,008 --> 00:40:50,404 and learned art history, it wasn't really like that. 537 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:52,101 And I think at a certain level, too, I 538 00:40:52,145 --> 00:40:53,494 think because of what I've photographed, 539 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:54,843 a lot of what I've done, some of it 540 00:40:54,887 --> 00:40:56,584 appears to be anti-social because it was like, 541 00:40:56,628 --> 00:40:58,194 conflicts with the police, stuff like that, 542 00:40:58,238 --> 00:41:00,806 and I got cops in trouble for doing it, 543 00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:02,634 but in reality it's not that it's anti-social, 544 00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:04,070 it's interested in a social factor 545 00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:05,027 that most people try to overlook. 546 00:41:20,129 --> 00:41:21,783 And I think if one is going to spend their time doing 547 00:41:21,827 --> 00:41:23,568 something, you ought to try to make it to be important, 548 00:41:23,611 --> 00:41:25,091 you ought to make it significant. 549 00:41:25,134 --> 00:41:27,572 And that's part of the reason of coming to New York. 550 00:41:27,615 --> 00:41:28,834 Why did I come to New York? 551 00:41:28,877 --> 00:41:30,662 Because I wanted to have what I did to become 552 00:41:30,705 --> 00:41:32,838 relevant and significant. 553 00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:36,102 [electric piano plays] 554 00:42:23,976 --> 00:42:25,760 ELLIOTT ERWITT: I get the feeling that there are too 555 00:42:25,804 --> 00:42:29,721 many bad pictures in the world. 556 00:42:29,764 --> 00:42:33,115 But there's always room for a good ones, 557 00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:40,949 because good ones illuminate, entertain, amuse, make people 558 00:42:40,993 --> 00:42:47,608 feel, instruct, do all good things, 559 00:42:47,652 --> 00:42:50,437 and give you some kind of an emotion, positive or negative, 560 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,134 or something. 561 00:42:52,178 --> 00:42:56,225 It just can't lie flat, it has to speak to you in some way. 562 00:42:56,269 --> 00:43:00,055 It has to make you laugh, or cry, or something in between. 563 00:43:00,099 --> 00:43:03,058 And if it doesn't do that, then it's not very interesting. 564 00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:05,583 A picture has to communicate, otherwise there's no point. 565 00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:12,677 I've taken quite a few pictures already, 566 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,505 so sometimes you see the same thing that you've seen before, 567 00:43:15,549 --> 00:43:18,030 and then you just don't do it. 568 00:43:18,073 --> 00:43:22,643 And as I shoot film and not digital, 569 00:43:22,687 --> 00:43:26,255 taking pictures is a process. 570 00:43:26,299 --> 00:43:28,388 I mean, you take the picture, you gotta develop it, 571 00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:29,389 you gotta make a contact, you gotta 572 00:43:29,432 --> 00:43:32,131 make prints, and so forth. 573 00:43:32,174 --> 00:43:35,134 I do everything in house. 574 00:43:35,177 --> 00:43:36,875 My darkroom is downstairs. 575 00:43:36,918 --> 00:43:39,312 I've always had a darkroom since I was 15 years old. 576 00:43:42,924 --> 00:43:47,015 It's not like, with a digital camera where 577 00:43:47,059 --> 00:43:54,675 you have an instant result. Digital manipulation 578 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,199 kills photography. 579 00:43:57,243 --> 00:44:00,246 I think that's the unfortunate thing about digital. 580 00:44:00,289 --> 00:44:05,120 It's made it too easy and everybody can get an image, 581 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:11,736 it's just that not everybody can get a good one. 582 00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:14,086 There's not much optimism with my colleagues. 583 00:44:14,129 --> 00:44:15,827 Things are tough. 584 00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:20,092 Film certainly will become obsolete, the question is when? 585 00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:23,051 The internet has not helped. 586 00:44:23,095 --> 00:44:26,838 People want to use stuff for nothing. 587 00:44:26,881 --> 00:44:29,928 Requirements are really quite base. 588 00:44:29,971 --> 00:44:31,973 You don't really need photographers anymore, 589 00:44:32,017 --> 00:44:36,195 for so many things you can just get stock 590 00:44:36,238 --> 00:44:37,631 and make your own picture. 591 00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,111 A little bit of this, a little bit of that, and you 592 00:44:39,154 --> 00:44:42,244 get a picture. 593 00:44:42,288 --> 00:44:44,072 JOEL MEYEROWITZ: Photography is a democratic medium, 594 00:44:44,116 --> 00:44:45,987 anybody can use it. 595 00:44:46,031 --> 00:44:49,164 But digital photography and the web 596 00:44:49,208 --> 00:44:52,254 have made it truly the democratic, 597 00:44:52,298 --> 00:44:54,909 worldwide, universal medium. 598 00:44:54,953 --> 00:44:57,520 Everybody's a photographer now. 599 00:44:57,564 --> 00:45:01,133 And we are going to find geniuses. 600 00:45:01,176 --> 00:45:05,833 Geniuses are going to be awakened by this opportunity 601 00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,879 to make pictures with their cell phone, 602 00:45:07,922 --> 00:45:12,448 or their camera, because they're going to see the results of it 603 00:45:12,492 --> 00:45:16,452 right away, and they're going to say, this fascinates me, 604 00:45:16,496 --> 00:45:18,498 I can say something. 605 00:45:18,541 --> 00:45:20,500 But the work they make is going to look 606 00:45:20,543 --> 00:45:24,547 very much like what the digital world is, where we are today. 607 00:45:24,591 --> 00:45:27,028 It's going to be very contemporary. 608 00:45:27,072 --> 00:45:30,118 I mean sure, there's a lot of crap everywhere, we know that, 609 00:45:30,162 --> 00:45:37,212 but I think there's also genius waiting to be discovered. 610 00:45:37,256 --> 00:45:38,605 MARTHA COOPER: I used to think every time I pressed 611 00:45:38,648 --> 00:45:42,130 the shutter it was $0.50. 612 00:45:42,174 --> 00:45:44,263 And that click, click, click, that 613 00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:46,439 could add up really quickly with the film and the developing. 614 00:45:46,482 --> 00:45:48,789 But now it doesn't add up click, click, 615 00:45:48,833 --> 00:45:54,055 click, so there's no reason not to just shoot everything. 616 00:45:54,099 --> 00:45:56,797 BOOGIE: No, I don't own digital camera. 617 00:45:56,841 --> 00:45:58,930 I shoot film only. 618 00:45:58,973 --> 00:46:02,150 With film you keep pushing yourself, 619 00:46:02,194 --> 00:46:08,200 and I think the result, because you don't know what you have, 620 00:46:08,243 --> 00:46:10,855 you might get something better. 621 00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:12,421 You might have some better results. 622 00:46:12,465 --> 00:46:15,773 I don't have Photoshop and I don't really like computers. 623 00:46:15,816 --> 00:46:19,080 I like email, I like Google, that's about it. 624 00:46:19,124 --> 00:46:20,299 It's too precise. 625 00:46:20,342 --> 00:46:23,563 I get very, very, very scared, so scared. 626 00:46:23,606 --> 00:46:26,044 I could never buy enough external hard drives to back me 627 00:46:26,087 --> 00:46:28,568 up, you see how I am. 628 00:46:28,611 --> 00:46:31,832 I mean my whole house would have to be an external. 629 00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:34,661 And then I'd have to get another house to back up the house. 630 00:46:34,704 --> 00:46:36,837 It would never end. 631 00:46:36,881 --> 00:46:38,708 I'm just crazy about my work, you 632 00:46:38,752 --> 00:46:41,842 know you couldn't back it up. 633 00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:43,626 I'm sure you could, but it's very hard for me. 634 00:46:46,455 --> 00:46:47,717 JILL FREEDMAN: A picture's a picture. 635 00:46:47,761 --> 00:46:49,937 What does it matter what tool you use? 636 00:46:49,981 --> 00:46:51,852 I think it's a ludicrous and ridiculous 637 00:46:51,896 --> 00:46:53,506 people carrying on about that. 638 00:46:53,549 --> 00:46:58,119 It doesn't matter how you get the picture, it's the picture. 639 00:46:58,163 --> 00:47:01,166 REBECCA LEPKOFF: Change is so inevitable. 640 00:47:01,209 --> 00:47:04,430 What all these cameras out there photographing? 641 00:47:04,473 --> 00:47:06,127 What don't they take? 642 00:47:06,171 --> 00:47:08,390 Will there be anybody who's going 643 00:47:08,434 --> 00:47:12,960 to be using the old photography the way it used to be, 644 00:47:13,004 --> 00:47:16,224 as time goes on? 645 00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:17,225 I just think about that. 646 00:47:21,316 --> 00:47:28,584 [drums playing] 647 00:47:28,628 --> 00:47:30,760 BRUCE DAVIDSON: I was 10 years old, and a friend of mine 648 00:47:30,804 --> 00:47:33,546 came by, Sammy, Sammy Nichols. 649 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:36,766 And he said you want to see developing in my basement? 650 00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:37,724 And I said, what's that? 651 00:47:37,767 --> 00:47:38,377 He said, come along. 652 00:47:41,728 --> 00:47:46,167 So I went with Sammy in this dark, dank, basement 653 00:47:46,211 --> 00:47:49,127 with a ruby light, and he exposed something, 654 00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:51,433 and an image appeared. 655 00:47:51,477 --> 00:47:53,522 And that really affected me. 656 00:47:53,566 --> 00:47:57,135 I ran home to my mother and said, can I have a darkroom? 657 00:48:04,533 --> 00:48:06,579 I lived like a monk. 658 00:48:06,622 --> 00:48:09,974 I had a mattress on the floor, a dying chiflera plant, 659 00:48:10,017 --> 00:48:13,412 a darkroom-kitchen combination where 660 00:48:13,455 --> 00:48:18,504 I could eat frozen Hershey bars and chicken while I printed. 661 00:48:18,547 --> 00:48:19,940 All I wanted to do was take pictures. 662 00:48:19,984 --> 00:48:21,811 I didn't care about anything else. 663 00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:33,432 It's easy to penetrate someone's privacy. 664 00:48:33,475 --> 00:48:35,738 And it's about privacy. 665 00:48:35,782 --> 00:48:39,133 And I've tried in my work to make 666 00:48:39,177 --> 00:48:43,485 contact, to offer pictures. 667 00:48:43,529 --> 00:48:45,923 And even in a Brooklyn gang, I would give them pictures. 668 00:48:52,451 --> 00:48:56,890 And it was a way of seeing them and a way of them seeing me. 669 00:48:56,934 --> 00:49:00,807 And so I was able to be invisible, almost, 670 00:49:00,850 --> 00:49:03,331 to them, because they were secure with me 671 00:49:03,375 --> 00:49:04,245 being around with my camera. 672 00:49:08,858 --> 00:49:12,558 But I would hand them a picture, not only picture of themselves, 673 00:49:12,601 --> 00:49:16,170 but a picture of something else that I did, to let them 674 00:49:16,214 --> 00:49:19,913 see there's an outside world. 675 00:49:19,957 --> 00:49:23,134 And it was part of the bonding because they 676 00:49:23,177 --> 00:49:26,093 were very depressed, and they were very angry. 677 00:49:26,137 --> 00:49:28,269 They were very poor. 678 00:49:28,313 --> 00:49:30,097 And there was nothing for them in that community. 679 00:49:33,709 --> 00:49:36,712 I was angry too. 680 00:49:36,756 --> 00:49:43,067 I had a possibility, I had a job, I had a life. 681 00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:43,763 They didn't. 682 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,384 100th Street was considered the worst block in the city. 683 00:50:01,128 --> 00:50:06,046 I'd worked on 100th Street in a large format 4x5 Linhof camera. 684 00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,179 It was classic. 685 00:50:08,222 --> 00:50:10,529 I was a real photographer because I 686 00:50:10,572 --> 00:50:14,924 went under a black cloth, I fumbled around, 687 00:50:14,968 --> 00:50:15,621 the pose is beautiful. 688 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,070 Dignity, it would bring a dignity 689 00:50:30,114 --> 00:50:32,159 to the act of photography. 690 00:50:32,203 --> 00:50:34,857 If I walked around in there with my little 691 00:50:34,901 --> 00:50:38,644 Nikon or Cannon, or whatever, boom, boom, boom, boom, 692 00:50:38,687 --> 00:50:40,776 it's too thin. 693 00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:44,084 It's too thin because with 4x5, you 694 00:50:44,128 --> 00:50:49,481 have to know what the picture is, 695 00:50:49,524 --> 00:50:52,266 so that you become kind of collaborative 696 00:50:52,310 --> 00:50:55,878 with your subject. 697 00:50:55,922 --> 00:50:58,272 Time was suspended. 698 00:50:58,316 --> 00:51:02,537 It wasn't a decisive moment, it wasn't a moment intention, 699 00:51:02,581 --> 00:51:05,714 fluid, like the gang pictures. 700 00:51:05,758 --> 00:51:07,542 It was different for me. 701 00:51:07,586 --> 00:51:08,326 It was a different experience. 702 00:51:20,947 --> 00:51:25,517 The subway in the late 70s, early 80s, was deplorable. 703 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,910 Everybody hated riding the subway, it's unsafe, 704 00:51:27,954 --> 00:51:31,479 it never ran right, it's full of graffiti, all kinds of things, 705 00:51:31,523 --> 00:51:32,915 dirty. 706 00:51:32,959 --> 00:51:36,745 I read a lot of young boys' books on tiger hunts, 707 00:51:36,789 --> 00:51:41,359 and I schedule the way I would be in a subway the same way 708 00:51:41,402 --> 00:51:44,623 a tiger hunter would walk across a field. 709 00:51:44,666 --> 00:51:47,191 It's always, attack from the rear. 710 00:51:47,234 --> 00:51:50,629 So I was always aware that I might 711 00:51:50,672 --> 00:51:53,762 be attacked from the rear on the subway, and actually I was. 712 00:52:00,247 --> 00:52:03,163 I became addicted to the subway. 713 00:52:03,207 --> 00:52:08,516 When I heard the rumble of the train below our bedroom window, 714 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,346 I jumped up like a werewolf. 715 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:16,350 Sometimes I'd go on the subway at one or two in the morning, 716 00:52:16,394 --> 00:52:18,744 and stay until dawn. 717 00:52:18,787 --> 00:52:22,313 I was starting to get a little crazy with it, you know? 718 00:52:27,231 --> 00:52:29,972 Normally I had the camera out, because you can't approach 719 00:52:30,016 --> 00:52:33,019 people and say, I'd like to take your picture, 720 00:52:33,062 --> 00:52:36,022 and reach into your back pocket. 721 00:52:36,065 --> 00:52:38,677 And if someone hesitated, I had an album 722 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,942 with me, a 5x7, a wedding album, gold trim, 723 00:52:42,985 --> 00:52:46,250 with samples of my work in it. 724 00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:50,689 It's a wedding between me and my subject. 725 00:52:50,732 --> 00:52:53,822 Also the subway was sexy. 726 00:52:53,866 --> 00:52:57,478 I had little love affairs for 10 seconds 727 00:52:57,522 --> 00:53:02,527 with women on the train, and never see them again. 728 00:53:02,570 --> 00:53:05,007 And it was Beauty and the Beast, but sometimes the beast 729 00:53:05,051 --> 00:53:08,054 was beautiful. 730 00:53:08,097 --> 00:53:12,667 That happens a lot with various bodies of work of mine, 731 00:53:12,711 --> 00:53:17,019 where people are glad you're there to see them, 732 00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:17,846 because no one's paying attention. 733 00:53:28,074 --> 00:53:29,249 [electric guitar playing] 734 00:53:52,316 --> 00:53:55,536 I don't expect everyone to be like me, thank God. 735 00:53:55,580 --> 00:53:57,712 If you have 42 Bruce Gildens running around, 736 00:53:57,756 --> 00:54:00,541 Jesus Christ, there'd probably be a ban against photography. 737 00:54:00,585 --> 00:54:02,630 No one would be allowed to take street pictures 738 00:54:02,674 --> 00:54:03,370 on the streets of New York. 739 00:54:08,810 --> 00:54:11,770 I'm basically what's known as a street photographer. 740 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:14,076 And when I was growing up in Brooklyn, 741 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,165 in Williamsburg, I used to look out my second story 742 00:54:16,209 --> 00:54:18,907 window at the vigorous street life down below, 743 00:54:18,951 --> 00:54:20,561 and I was hooked. 744 00:54:20,605 --> 00:54:25,131 And also television had a lot to do because I like film noir 745 00:54:25,174 --> 00:54:25,784 and I like shadows. 746 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:44,063 At times someone will go out with me, 747 00:54:44,106 --> 00:54:45,934 you know like I'm just with somebody, and they'll say, 748 00:54:45,978 --> 00:54:47,675 hey there's a person for you, and I'll say no, they're 749 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,024 too-- I won't use the word, stylish, 750 00:54:49,068 --> 00:54:50,765 but they're dressed too neatly. 751 00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:54,595 They look like they are a character and they're not. 752 00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,163 The hat is too neat, everything is too much 753 00:54:57,206 --> 00:54:58,164 like they're programmed. 754 00:54:58,207 --> 00:54:59,339 OK? 755 00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:01,776 It's not like they are a character. 756 00:55:01,820 --> 00:55:04,953 Just something catches me there's something striking 757 00:55:04,997 --> 00:55:08,174 in them, and I don't mean a vulgarity type of striking, 758 00:55:08,217 --> 00:55:10,045 I mean just as a detail. 759 00:55:10,089 --> 00:55:12,439 It's something that just works. 760 00:55:12,483 --> 00:55:15,137 They're a little bit more extreme or some of these people 761 00:55:15,181 --> 00:55:16,269 I've made more extreme. 762 00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:18,358 You know they're just average people, 763 00:55:18,402 --> 00:55:20,099 but there's something I see in them 764 00:55:20,142 --> 00:55:23,145 that attracts me, that makes me want to photograph them. 765 00:55:26,018 --> 00:55:28,412 I realized I had to really jump in people's faces 766 00:55:28,455 --> 00:55:33,460 to isolate them, to separate the foreground from the background. 767 00:55:33,504 --> 00:55:36,115 Flash helps me visualize my feelings of the city 768 00:55:36,158 --> 00:55:39,248 because it shows the stress, the energy, the speed, 769 00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:41,512 and the anxiety of the people. 770 00:55:41,555 --> 00:55:43,731 You can't photograph everybody, you can't photograph 771 00:55:43,775 --> 00:55:46,255 every situation, because otherwise I wouldn't 772 00:55:46,299 --> 00:55:48,257 be sitting here talking to you. 773 00:55:48,301 --> 00:55:50,434 I feel almost like I'm a director out there. 774 00:55:50,477 --> 00:55:51,957 I am the director, and sometimes if I 775 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,220 see something and the person turns the other way, 776 00:55:54,263 --> 00:55:57,223 I say to myself, shit he doesn't take direction well. 777 00:55:57,266 --> 00:56:01,488 [funky organ playing] 778 00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:25,686 You know this thing about invisibility, 779 00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:29,951 I mean, I think people overdo it. 780 00:56:29,995 --> 00:56:34,086 When you have a little camera you become a sneak. 781 00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:37,002 So it becomes a different-- the rules change, of the game. 782 00:56:37,045 --> 00:56:38,699 OK? 783 00:56:38,743 --> 00:56:41,223 You can be invisible and be very close, because sometimes I 784 00:56:41,267 --> 00:56:43,182 work so close that people don't realize 785 00:56:43,225 --> 00:56:44,879 I'm taking their picture. 786 00:56:44,923 --> 00:56:47,447 They look behind them to see like, 787 00:56:47,491 --> 00:56:48,840 who'd they take a picture of? 788 00:56:48,883 --> 00:56:50,885 What happened with this picture was, 789 00:56:50,929 --> 00:56:52,452 I was taking the picture because I like-- she's wearing 790 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:55,586 a bra and panties on the beach. 791 00:56:55,629 --> 00:56:56,935 And then someone came over and said 792 00:56:56,978 --> 00:56:58,197 what is he taking a picture of? 793 00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:58,632 And she went, over there. 794 00:57:04,029 --> 00:57:09,600 Here, this is quite interesting for me because I saw that 795 00:57:09,643 --> 00:57:12,341 and I wanted to take a picture of his face, 796 00:57:12,385 --> 00:57:14,300 because part of his jaw is like, missing. 797 00:57:14,343 --> 00:57:15,693 OK? 798 00:57:15,736 --> 00:57:17,782 So I went over and had a conversation with him, 799 00:57:17,825 --> 00:57:19,392 and I asked him, I said, can I take a picture 800 00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:20,698 up close of your face? 801 00:57:20,741 --> 00:57:21,742 He said, yeah sure. 802 00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:24,876 With his beautiful flowing hair, I 803 00:57:24,919 --> 00:57:27,008 wish I had his hair, not his chin, 804 00:57:27,052 --> 00:57:29,837 but the thing is, with his hair, I mean he's 805 00:57:29,881 --> 00:57:31,926 like a beautiful bird for me. 806 00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:35,103 So I don't-- people in my pictures aren't these people. 807 00:57:35,147 --> 00:57:38,324 People in my pictures are symbols for what I see. 808 00:57:38,367 --> 00:57:40,239 And it's how I express what the world is. 809 00:57:40,282 --> 00:57:44,461 I don't think the world is an excellent place. 810 00:57:44,504 --> 00:57:45,897 I'm comfortable doing what I do because I don't 811 00:57:45,940 --> 00:57:47,986 think I'm doing anything wrong. 812 00:57:48,029 --> 00:57:51,642 You know I don't let people bully me or intimidate me, OK? 813 00:57:51,685 --> 00:57:54,471 So I'm not some pushover out there. 814 00:57:54,514 --> 00:57:56,603 And if you look in my eyes, you'll see that I'm 815 00:57:56,647 --> 00:57:58,605 not a normal guy sometimes. 816 00:57:58,649 --> 00:58:00,651 I've done some pretty wild things out there. 817 00:58:23,151 --> 00:58:30,289 [ELECTRIC GUITAR AND DRUMS PLAYING] 818 00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,666 MAX KOZLOFF: When you speak of William Klein, 819 00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:02,103 you speak of a bad boy, a kind of renegade 820 00:59:02,147 --> 00:59:05,367 in the history of photographic practices. 821 00:59:05,411 --> 00:59:09,067 When he came to New York in the 1950s 822 00:59:09,110 --> 00:59:11,896 it was as if he had a score to settle. 823 00:59:11,939 --> 00:59:15,029 So that there's a strange dissonant mixture 824 00:59:15,073 --> 00:59:17,771 of familiarity and distancing that 825 00:59:17,815 --> 00:59:24,299 goes on in William Klein's view of New York that epitomized 826 00:59:24,343 --> 00:59:27,825 both the bitterness of his recognitions in the city, 827 00:59:27,868 --> 00:59:31,655 and at the same time his affection for them. 828 00:59:31,698 --> 00:59:35,963 Robert Frank produced for us an album 829 00:59:36,007 --> 00:59:39,880 of the city, the exact opposite of the cheerful, gregarious 830 00:59:39,924 --> 00:59:42,883 multitudes, for which the city has been celebrated 831 00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:46,365 in many other photo campaigns. 832 00:59:46,408 --> 00:59:49,368 His New York, on the contrary, was 833 00:59:49,411 --> 00:59:55,026 a patchwork of sub-cultures and wary glances. 834 00:59:55,069 --> 00:59:58,638 All of this comes through works of great power 835 00:59:58,682 --> 01:00:01,554 that add to the mythos of the city 836 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,687 as a place you have to watch your step in. 837 01:00:13,348 --> 01:00:15,873 JEFF MERMELSTEIN: People see me aiming at a certain direction, 838 01:00:15,916 --> 01:00:17,526 they might think I'm taking their picture, 839 01:00:17,570 --> 01:00:20,312 and if they're not liking that, they're not going to like that. 840 01:00:20,355 --> 01:00:23,968 And it can and has been a problem more than once. 841 01:00:24,011 --> 01:00:25,230 JILL FREEDMAN: Certain range finders 842 01:00:25,273 --> 01:00:27,885 are magnificent weapons. 843 01:00:27,928 --> 01:00:29,582 There's no mirror to get bounced around, 844 01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:32,629 and if you wrap the strap tightly and go like that, 845 01:00:32,672 --> 01:00:36,023 sideways, they don't mess with you too much. 846 01:00:36,067 --> 01:00:39,244 I have to start exercising because I, I don't know, 847 01:00:39,287 --> 01:00:44,162 I want to feel able to defend myself. 848 01:00:44,205 --> 01:00:46,120 MARTHA COOPER: I don't go out with a lot of equipment, 849 01:00:46,164 --> 01:00:48,862 but I don't hide the equipment either. 850 01:00:48,906 --> 01:00:52,039 I go out with a worn old camera bag, 851 01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:55,826 and I just try to be street savvy, that's all. 852 01:00:55,869 --> 01:00:59,220 I got locked in the train once with some graffiti kids. 853 01:00:59,264 --> 01:01:02,093 There are very special keys, and they locked me in, 854 01:01:02,136 --> 01:01:03,747 so nobody could get at us, and then they 855 01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:05,705 scribbled all over the place. 856 01:01:05,749 --> 01:01:09,143 So they were little kids from Yonkers, white kids. 857 01:01:09,187 --> 01:01:15,149 [men arguing] 858 01:01:15,193 --> 01:01:16,760 They kept on trying to push me off the block 859 01:01:16,803 --> 01:01:18,022 and I don't want to hear about it, 860 01:01:18,065 --> 01:01:20,024 so eventually it got into a confrontation, 861 01:01:20,067 --> 01:01:22,200 and then I got beaten up by the cops. 862 01:01:22,243 --> 01:01:24,811 And I was covered in blood, my shirt was ripped, 863 01:01:24,855 --> 01:01:26,378 I got a couple of teeth knocked out. 864 01:01:26,421 --> 01:01:28,859 There was a guy that's-- you know, I don't know, I was-- 865 01:01:28,902 --> 01:01:31,731 so this was 10 years ago-- and a tough guy, 866 01:01:31,775 --> 01:01:35,561 you know shaved head, deep scars in his head, 867 01:01:35,604 --> 01:01:36,997 you know, a toughie. 868 01:01:37,041 --> 01:01:38,433 So I said, oh fuck it, I'll take his picture anyway. 869 01:01:38,477 --> 01:01:40,522 So I took his picture. 870 01:01:40,566 --> 01:01:43,003 And he came over to me and he said, 871 01:01:43,047 --> 01:01:44,831 you do that again he said I'll fucking-- 872 01:01:44,875 --> 01:01:47,051 and I didn't say a word because he could have fucking taken me 873 01:01:47,094 --> 01:01:48,879 and threw me through the window. 874 01:01:54,885 --> 01:01:58,279 MAX KOZLOFF: But this all seems quaint and archaic 875 01:01:58,323 --> 01:02:01,718 now, because our definitions of the public 876 01:02:01,761 --> 01:02:05,330 and the private sphere have been entirely 877 01:02:05,373 --> 01:02:10,727 altered by new technologies and new social attitudes. 878 01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:13,294 We're all exhibitionists, or people 879 01:02:13,338 --> 01:02:15,514 who would like to be noticed, however 880 01:02:15,557 --> 01:02:18,299 briefly, by electronic means. 881 01:02:18,343 --> 01:02:22,173 So the idea of someone objecting to having a camera poked 882 01:02:22,216 --> 01:02:25,002 in their face is obsolete. 883 01:02:25,045 --> 01:02:28,266 Let me introduce myself, my name is Ricky Powell. 884 01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:30,398 [cheering] 885 01:02:30,442 --> 01:02:34,838 Oh shit, well thank you man, that's very nice of you, 886 01:02:34,881 --> 01:02:37,754 because I'm usually used to getting dissed, 887 01:02:37,797 --> 01:02:39,712 like I'm the bike messenger at home, 888 01:02:39,756 --> 01:02:41,366 oh, who the fuck is this guy? 889 01:02:41,409 --> 01:02:47,807 [funky music plays] 890 01:03:10,264 --> 01:03:16,096 Ah, I listen to the blues hour on Jazz 88 every day, 891 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:18,969 3 o'clock. 892 01:03:19,012 --> 01:03:23,887 I gotta have soundtrack as I walk through the streets. 893 01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:27,847 My neighborhood has been infested by new Jack Cornballs, 894 01:03:27,891 --> 01:03:32,243 so this helps me freeze them out. 895 01:03:32,286 --> 01:03:39,380 [funky organ plays] 896 01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:00,749 Yeah, well I've been living here 20 years on Charles street, 897 01:04:00,793 --> 01:04:02,490 but I grew up in the village. 898 01:04:02,534 --> 01:04:09,454 I met this weird, fucking weird, arty, crazy, crazy dressed girl 899 01:04:09,497 --> 01:04:12,718 at Danceteria, we hit it off. 900 01:04:12,761 --> 01:04:16,896 So we go to like Roxy's, and Danceteria, and all the clubs, 901 01:04:16,940 --> 01:04:21,466 and she'd bring her little sure shot, a Minolta auto-focus, 902 01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:22,859 hi-matic. 903 01:04:22,902 --> 01:04:26,210 I took to it like, easy, actually, nat, 904 01:04:26,253 --> 01:04:27,733 but I never took it seriously, it was 905 01:04:27,776 --> 01:04:29,561 just something I did with her. 906 01:04:29,604 --> 01:04:32,694 Spring of '85 she ditched me for some fucking scrub 907 01:04:32,738 --> 01:04:35,784 who wore tie-dye yoga pants. 908 01:04:35,828 --> 01:04:37,786 I was fucking-- I'm going to make this bitch sorry she 909 01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:40,180 played me like a soggy cannoli. 910 01:04:40,224 --> 01:04:42,487 I'm going to take this camera, and I'm 911 01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:44,097 gonna fucking become something where 912 01:04:44,141 --> 01:04:47,579 she fucking is gonna be mad sorry she dissed me like this. 913 01:04:47,622 --> 01:04:50,930 Spring of '85, early like March, I 914 01:04:50,974 --> 01:04:54,107 declared I'm going to take pictures, 915 01:04:54,151 --> 01:04:56,153 I'm going to take pictures. 916 01:04:56,196 --> 01:05:00,026 [funky music plays] 917 01:05:12,256 --> 01:05:17,522 Yeah I've been a messenger, substitute schoolteacher, 918 01:05:17,565 --> 01:05:21,047 frozen lemonade vendor, tour photographer. 919 01:05:31,971 --> 01:05:33,886 I had my share of bullshit jobs, you know, 920 01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:36,584 but I always bring a bring a camera with me 921 01:05:36,628 --> 01:05:40,327 to battle the mundaneness of the job. 922 01:05:40,371 --> 01:05:44,027 This I took in the summer of '86 from my frozen lemonade 923 01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:46,986 stand, and I like this shot because the dog 924 01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:49,423 is running shit. 925 01:05:49,467 --> 01:05:54,994 And I got a famous shot of Cindy Crawford I took at the club MK. 926 01:05:55,038 --> 01:05:59,303 I was a busboy, I went into the woman's bathroom to clean up. 927 01:05:59,346 --> 01:06:04,482 I turn around and I seen this chick, I'm like, oh shit, 928 01:06:04,525 --> 01:06:06,092 yo, you mind if I get a flat? 929 01:06:06,136 --> 01:06:09,661 I guess my magnetism overtook her. 930 01:06:09,704 --> 01:06:11,141 That's in the toilet stall right there. 931 01:06:14,013 --> 01:06:17,234 Debbie Nassar, loved her, man. 932 01:06:17,277 --> 01:06:20,715 Laurence Fishburne, love Laurence, 933 01:06:20,759 --> 01:06:23,283 I don't know how I used to end up hanging out with him, man. 934 01:06:23,327 --> 01:06:25,372 I got some good shots, he liked me. 935 01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,331 Oh yeah, oh, oh yeah. 936 01:06:27,374 --> 01:06:29,028 Oh snap. 937 01:06:29,072 --> 01:06:30,464 RICKY POWELL: Run from Run-DMC would 938 01:06:30,508 --> 01:06:34,251 come pick me up in his car and we'd drive around. 939 01:06:34,294 --> 01:06:36,427 I'm just doing a photo shoot with Run-DMC. 940 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:38,690 Come over here man, I want to get the nice sundown. 941 01:06:38,733 --> 01:06:39,647 It's nice, it's aesthetic. 942 01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:52,486 Dondi White, the graffiti legend. 943 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:55,228 I don't know how I used to hang out with these dudes, 944 01:06:55,272 --> 01:06:57,317 except they knew I was down. 945 01:06:57,361 --> 01:06:59,624 RICKY POWELL: We're in the palace of the rap 946 01:06:59,667 --> 01:07:02,801 Svengali Mr. Russell Simmons. 947 01:07:02,844 --> 01:07:03,541 Alice. 948 01:07:03,584 --> 01:07:04,542 How are you bud? 949 01:07:04,585 --> 01:07:05,804 Cold, Ricky. 950 01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:08,067 I love the way you've, you know, 951 01:07:08,111 --> 01:07:09,590 dressed for today's interview. 952 01:07:09,634 --> 01:07:14,204 My most well known photo, probably Warhol-Basquiat. 953 01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:20,079 Went to Shafrazi to see the Warhol-Basquiat opening. 954 01:07:20,123 --> 01:07:22,212 I meet up with Zephyr and Revolt, 955 01:07:22,255 --> 01:07:24,344 they were like a dynamic duo of graffiti. 956 01:07:24,388 --> 01:07:28,522 And I used to just be, like, on their jock. 957 01:07:28,566 --> 01:07:31,177 And then we noticed Warhol and Basquiat coming from Houston 958 01:07:31,221 --> 01:07:35,834 street, and I was just like, hey, you 959 01:07:35,877 --> 01:07:37,053 mind if I get a quick flick? 960 01:07:37,096 --> 01:07:38,054 Or some shit, I don't know. 961 01:07:38,097 --> 01:07:39,664 And they looked at me. 962 01:07:39,707 --> 01:07:42,101 Basquiat had seen me around, he was always nice to me. 963 01:07:42,145 --> 01:07:45,539 They stopped for me, posed, I took the shot, 964 01:07:45,583 --> 01:07:47,933 I said, thanks man. 965 01:07:47,976 --> 01:07:53,025 So I had just shot two great dynamic duos in the same minute 966 01:07:53,069 --> 01:07:56,594 at the onset in my career so-- career. 967 01:08:02,991 --> 01:08:06,082 And hustling is like, actually my main occupation. 968 01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:08,040 Hustling. 969 01:08:08,084 --> 01:08:13,219 That's what it is man, waking up, making sure you wake up 970 01:08:13,263 --> 01:08:17,310 in the daytime, putting your pants on, making the calls, 971 01:08:17,354 --> 01:08:20,574 getting out of the house, maneuvering, 972 01:08:20,618 --> 01:08:22,837 you know I don't take those for granted. 973 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:26,276 I have to be prepared because even dope shot might arise, 974 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:30,062 even when I just go to the deli, and it happens. 975 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:33,370 You know street photography to me is like my transistor radio, 976 01:08:33,413 --> 01:08:35,198 the playlist is infinite. 977 01:08:35,241 --> 01:08:37,678 There was no reason I shouldn't have a camera because all I had 978 01:08:37,722 --> 01:08:43,771 to do is uh-- and if you can't do this, if this is too much, 979 01:08:43,815 --> 01:08:45,382 then, you know, I was in the wrong business. 980 01:09:04,096 --> 01:09:11,625 [electronic music plays] 981 01:09:22,897 --> 01:09:25,204 I find it very difficult to take a photograph 982 01:09:25,248 --> 01:09:26,988 without a person knowing. 983 01:09:27,032 --> 01:09:28,773 Occasionally I will, but there's still 984 01:09:28,816 --> 01:09:31,776 something magical about being able to approach a stranger 985 01:09:31,819 --> 01:09:34,909 and convince them that you are sincere. 986 01:09:46,834 --> 01:09:49,881 JAMEL SHABAZZ: In 1977 I joined the military. 987 01:09:49,924 --> 01:09:52,318 I said to myself, when I return back to the states, 988 01:09:52,362 --> 01:09:54,146 I will never be without images. 989 01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:57,367 I returned during the summer of 1980, and I came on a mission 990 01:09:57,410 --> 01:10:00,326 to just shoot and recapture different stages of my life, 991 01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:02,110 so I was with a camera every single day, 992 01:10:02,154 --> 01:10:03,286 from that point to this very day. 993 01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:11,207 You know, when I was downtown in Brooklyn photographing 994 01:10:11,250 --> 01:10:15,123 the posses, the crews, I realized the psychology 995 01:10:15,167 --> 01:10:18,214 of photography for me. 996 01:10:18,257 --> 01:10:20,303 You see the alpha and I would study my subjects first, 997 01:10:20,346 --> 01:10:22,914 because being a military man, we learned 998 01:10:22,957 --> 01:10:25,873 the science of recognizance, and recognizing leadership. 999 01:10:25,917 --> 01:10:28,485 So I would see that alpha male or female I was studying 1000 01:10:28,528 --> 01:10:30,922 for a few, and I knew that I had to approach 1001 01:10:30,965 --> 01:10:32,271 him first in order to get the permission 1002 01:10:32,315 --> 01:10:34,360 to shoot everybody else. 1003 01:10:34,404 --> 01:10:37,711 And alphas are normally the male who has the jury on, you know, 1004 01:10:37,755 --> 01:10:39,496 he's distinguishable. 1005 01:10:39,539 --> 01:10:41,019 And I would compliment him, because was 1006 01:10:41,062 --> 01:10:43,456 the psychology also, to compliment my subjects and say, 1007 01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:45,023 you know what? 1008 01:10:45,066 --> 01:10:46,981 I'm looking at you, and I recognize power and strength, 1009 01:10:47,025 --> 01:10:49,201 and I can tell that you are a very powerful person. 1010 01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:49,984 He'd say, you know what? 1011 01:10:50,028 --> 01:10:53,292 Yeah I am. 1012 01:10:53,336 --> 01:10:55,729 I would photograph him, and go get it blown up, 1013 01:10:55,773 --> 01:10:57,775 and bring him back to him, and he would show all his people 1014 01:10:57,818 --> 01:10:59,080 and say, yo look at this. 1015 01:10:59,124 --> 01:11:00,168 So then they would all want photographs. 1016 01:11:03,650 --> 01:11:06,087 They gave me the name picture man, and I was just there. 1017 01:11:09,569 --> 01:11:12,050 I left at the age of 17 to go into the military, 1018 01:11:12,093 --> 01:11:13,791 I came home at 20, so a lot of things 1019 01:11:13,834 --> 01:11:17,098 I wasn't exposed to during my youth, but when I returned, 1020 01:11:17,142 --> 01:11:18,883 I saw prostitution and homelessness 1021 01:11:18,926 --> 01:11:20,188 for the first time. 1022 01:11:20,232 --> 01:11:21,407 And for whatever reason I wanted to capture it. 1023 01:11:24,671 --> 01:11:27,326 So I would go out and I would just, not only 1024 01:11:27,370 --> 01:11:30,155 take photographs, but I was really curious on why 1025 01:11:30,198 --> 01:11:32,766 these women became homeless, and try to get them off the street 1026 01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:34,420 at age 20 years old. 1027 01:11:34,464 --> 01:11:36,553 So in a sense I became a street teacher, 1028 01:11:36,596 --> 01:11:39,207 and I had a reason behind what I was doing. 1029 01:11:39,251 --> 01:11:41,471 And it was dangerous in the beginning. 1030 01:11:41,514 --> 01:11:43,951 And I saw a prostitute performing a sex act 1031 01:11:43,995 --> 01:11:46,780 on a religious figure, and I shot it without asking, 1032 01:11:46,824 --> 01:11:50,697 and she started screaming, and the customer 1033 01:11:50,741 --> 01:11:52,395 ran off without paying her. 1034 01:11:52,438 --> 01:11:56,834 So her screams summons her security, her pimp. 1035 01:11:56,877 --> 01:12:00,316 And I had said to them, with all due respect, before you 1036 01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:02,535 attack me, let me at least explain what I did, 1037 01:12:02,579 --> 01:12:04,102 and why I did it. 1038 01:12:04,145 --> 01:12:08,149 And in my explanation, the person he says, you know what? 1039 01:12:08,193 --> 01:12:09,890 I respect you. 1040 01:12:09,934 --> 01:12:12,066 And he says, from this point on, you have my permission to come 1041 01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:13,677 out here any time and shoot. 1042 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,069 He says, the only thing you just have to do in the future 1043 01:12:15,113 --> 01:12:16,288 is ask. 1044 01:12:16,332 --> 01:12:17,855 So what that did for me at that time, 1045 01:12:17,898 --> 01:12:19,770 it taught me the importance of asking. 1046 01:12:19,813 --> 01:12:22,120 And I was criticized for that as time 1047 01:12:22,163 --> 01:12:25,297 would go on because people would say that my work is too posed. 1048 01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:26,907 But what it was with me, I would ask. 1049 01:12:26,951 --> 01:12:29,301 With all due respect, my name is Jamel Shabazz, 1050 01:12:29,345 --> 01:12:30,563 may I take a photograph of you? 1051 01:12:33,653 --> 01:12:36,264 The smile is a reflection of what I gave them. 1052 01:12:36,308 --> 01:12:39,572 So when I look at the smiles that I see in my photographs, 1053 01:12:39,616 --> 01:12:42,488 I created an atmosphere which made them feel good. 1054 01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:43,576 And that makes me feel good to know 1055 01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:44,403 that I was able to do that. 1056 01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:56,459 [electronic music plays] 1057 01:13:37,064 --> 01:13:39,632 MARY ELLEN MARK: I was born in the suburbs of Philadelphia, 1058 01:13:39,676 --> 01:13:42,374 I can remember when I was eight years old walking 1059 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:45,508 home from, like, third grade and saying, 1060 01:13:45,551 --> 01:13:47,684 I got to get out of here. 1061 01:13:47,727 --> 01:13:50,687 And I stayed with that, and I really always thought 1062 01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:53,298 about my freedom, and I always thought about moving to New 1063 01:13:53,341 --> 01:13:57,737 York, even when I was a child. 1064 01:13:57,781 --> 01:13:59,304 When I first came to New York, I would 1065 01:13:59,347 --> 01:14:02,176 go to the parks, the Central Park, 1066 01:14:02,220 --> 01:14:04,831 and I would also, which I still do, try and find out when there 1067 01:14:04,875 --> 01:14:07,007 were events, shoot around them, not necessarily the parade 1068 01:14:07,051 --> 01:14:07,660 itself. 1069 01:14:15,799 --> 01:14:18,758 I still love the street and I still go out on the street. 1070 01:14:18,802 --> 01:14:21,021 It's a challenge to work on the street. 1071 01:14:21,065 --> 01:14:22,806 The hardest photography you do is 1072 01:14:22,849 --> 01:14:25,156 street photography, actually, because you have 1073 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,332 to really think on your feet. 1074 01:14:27,375 --> 01:14:28,855 You go down the street and you turn right, 1075 01:14:28,899 --> 01:14:30,988 and something amazing happens. 1076 01:14:31,031 --> 01:14:35,035 You don't make that turn, you left and nothing happens. 1077 01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:37,690 You have to make a picture in that very moment, 1078 01:14:37,734 --> 01:14:39,518 and I'm old school in the sense-- well 1079 01:14:39,562 --> 01:14:41,781 I'm an analog photographer but, I'm 1080 01:14:41,825 --> 01:14:45,176 old school in the sense that I don't believe in cropping, 1081 01:14:45,219 --> 01:14:47,483 that I believe you have to make the picture in the camera. 1082 01:14:52,226 --> 01:14:53,750 It's harder to be a woman than a man, 1083 01:14:53,793 --> 01:14:55,882 I'll definitely admit that. 1084 01:14:55,926 --> 01:14:58,450 The disadvantages came more with business, 1085 01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:03,411 with people not maybe wanting to assign you 1086 01:15:03,455 --> 01:15:05,152 as much in the beginning, but also 1087 01:15:05,196 --> 01:15:09,548 the disadvantage of strength, just physical strength. 1088 01:15:09,592 --> 01:15:12,943 But I think there's also an advantage to being a female, 1089 01:15:12,986 --> 01:15:15,032 if you're a street photographer, because I can walk down 1090 01:15:15,075 --> 01:15:16,773 the street and I can and knock on a door, 1091 01:15:16,816 --> 01:15:18,209 and someone will let me in. 1092 01:15:18,252 --> 01:15:19,602 I'm less threatening than a man. 1093 01:15:29,612 --> 01:15:31,570 I think often your subject matter 1094 01:15:31,614 --> 01:15:34,921 can show you what the picture is, makes it for you. 1095 01:15:34,965 --> 01:15:39,404 So I'm not a strong believer in heavy duty concepts 1096 01:15:39,447 --> 01:15:41,232 when I do portraits of people. 1097 01:15:41,275 --> 01:15:44,278 I sort of like it to come from people. 1098 01:15:44,322 --> 01:15:46,585 I try and make iconic images. 1099 01:15:46,629 --> 01:15:50,154 They're hard to make, but that's my goal, is to make images 1100 01:15:50,197 --> 01:15:51,764 that stand on their own. 1101 01:15:51,808 --> 01:15:57,770 Not to tell a particular story, I think film tells a story. 1102 01:15:57,814 --> 01:16:00,730 Still pictures should be single, very powerful, images. 1103 01:16:03,994 --> 01:16:06,692 I don't know whether my pictures cause social change, 1104 01:16:06,736 --> 01:16:09,086 I think that maybe they make people aware, 1105 01:16:09,129 --> 01:16:10,566 and I think it's important for people to be aware. 1106 01:16:13,699 --> 01:16:16,267 I think today the fine art world, at this moment, 1107 01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:20,619 does not really appreciate reality, or documentary work. 1108 01:16:20,663 --> 01:16:23,796 And I think it's too bad, because for me that's 1109 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,712 the work I collect, and that's the work I love, 1110 01:16:26,756 --> 01:16:28,758 and that was my choice of a career. 1111 01:16:28,801 --> 01:16:33,545 I love photographs about humans, or animals, 1112 01:16:33,589 --> 01:16:38,550 I love animals too, but, you know, humans and animals. 1113 01:16:38,594 --> 01:16:42,380 The art world, they're always thinking in terms of decoration 1114 01:16:42,423 --> 01:16:44,121 and those kind of strong images aren't as decorative. 1115 01:16:47,167 --> 01:16:49,779 There are so many great documentary photographers, 1116 01:16:49,822 --> 01:16:52,520 and we're not having the opportunity to see their work. 1117 01:16:52,564 --> 01:16:55,741 And I think that's very sad, because my favorite 1118 01:16:55,785 --> 01:16:57,743 photographs, and I think historically 1119 01:16:57,787 --> 01:17:00,267 the pictures that I love, are the photographs 1120 01:17:00,311 --> 01:17:02,226 that are about reality. 1121 01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:07,971 JEFF MERMELSTEIN: Street photography 1122 01:17:08,014 --> 01:17:10,538 is really not what people are talking about, 1123 01:17:10,582 --> 01:17:12,715 it's a little retro. 1124 01:17:12,758 --> 01:17:17,067 So to maintain that enthusiasm is difficult. 1125 01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:20,026 There's less of us that will take 1126 01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:23,551 35 millimeter street photographs, you know, 1127 01:17:23,595 --> 01:17:26,685 their whole life. 1128 01:17:26,729 --> 01:17:33,474 [bass playing] 1129 01:17:47,706 --> 01:17:51,710 As I become older I feel more in touch with the importance 1130 01:17:51,754 --> 01:17:54,495 of what I, and others like I, am doing, 1131 01:17:54,539 --> 01:17:58,848 and that is, rendering the human condition, 1132 01:17:58,891 --> 01:18:03,243 showing the world and life as it is. 1133 01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:05,332 Us picture makers are responsible for doing 1134 01:18:05,376 --> 01:18:08,640 that in an honest, and way that is unique to our own selves, 1135 01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:09,728 to make a contribution. 1136 01:18:14,777 --> 01:18:16,866 I'm recording life now my way. 1137 01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:30,488 I think this might be the first roll I ever shot, right here. 1138 01:18:30,531 --> 01:18:33,752 And indeed it is. 1139 01:18:33,796 --> 01:18:37,713 Indeed it is, 1966. 1140 01:18:37,756 --> 01:18:40,846 Right out into the street. 1141 01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:41,934 Well there's pictures is everywhere, 1142 01:18:41,978 --> 01:18:43,544 my God, if you're in the mood. 1143 01:18:43,588 --> 01:18:45,503 But, you know, it's like if you're in a your bad mood, 1144 01:18:45,546 --> 01:18:48,375 everybody on the bus looks like a maniac, or a terrible freak, 1145 01:18:48,419 --> 01:18:49,986 or a moron. 1146 01:18:50,029 --> 01:18:52,249 And when you're in a good mood, and you can't help it, 1147 01:18:52,292 --> 01:18:56,688 you smile at someone-- surprise, they smile back. 1148 01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:59,778 Like, every picture has to say, only in New York. 1149 01:19:08,134 --> 01:19:10,441 BOOGIE: Sometimes I leave my house, and by the time 1150 01:19:10,484 --> 01:19:13,226 I reach Manhattan I would shoot three rolls, 1151 01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:15,272 because there's always-- stuff is always changing, 1152 01:19:15,315 --> 01:19:17,274 there's always something new, life is different, 1153 01:19:17,317 --> 01:19:18,928 people are different. 1154 01:19:18,971 --> 01:19:24,585 I'm just trying to show things as they are, without bullshit, 1155 01:19:24,629 --> 01:19:27,719 without judging people. 1156 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:32,680 I am more and more excited about what I do. 1157 01:19:32,724 --> 01:19:36,641 I shoot more and more, because I think I have less time 1158 01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:39,862 left on this planet, I guess. 1159 01:19:43,126 --> 01:19:48,914 A street can be like a nerve ending It's not the street, 1160 01:19:48,958 --> 01:19:53,397 it's the life on the street, or where the street takes you, 1161 01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:56,356 that's important. 1162 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,533 It's out there, you know, I'll go 1163 01:19:59,577 --> 01:20:04,887 on just trying to get it right, still trying to get it right. 1164 01:20:08,891 --> 01:20:11,719 Photography is about description. 1165 01:20:11,763 --> 01:20:13,373 It just describes things. 1166 01:20:13,417 --> 01:20:14,940 That's all the camera does, your point it, you press the button, 1167 01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:16,463 it describes what's in front of it. 1168 01:20:16,507 --> 01:20:20,511 Something happens, some personal thing happens. 1169 01:20:20,554 --> 01:20:23,253 Even though it's a machine, and even though it uses a fraction 1170 01:20:23,296 --> 01:20:27,692 of a second of time, we learn, as human beings, 1171 01:20:27,735 --> 01:20:30,608 how to understand those minute little exchanges. 1172 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:41,053 And I'm much happier being out on the street, mixing it up, 1173 01:20:41,097 --> 01:20:44,883 with the chance quality of things 1174 01:20:44,927 --> 01:20:48,452 potentially appearing out of ordinary reality. 1175 01:20:53,587 --> 01:20:55,981 A slice of a moment. 1176 01:21:00,029 --> 01:21:01,987 A thousandth of a second of recognition. 1177 01:21:06,035 --> 01:21:12,432 And if you can accept that, then you can operate that way. 1178 01:21:12,476 --> 01:21:15,566 There are plenty of people who don't have that kind of belief. 1179 01:21:15,609 --> 01:21:18,264 That the world's going to present itself in that way, 1180 01:21:18,308 --> 01:21:22,703 and so they don't see it because they're not looking for it. 1181 01:21:22,747 --> 01:21:30,102 [piano and bass playing] 1182 01:21:39,503 --> 01:21:44,900 [electronic music playing] 90171

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