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You had a volunteer, ten years ago, saying he could infiltrate a North Korean Friendship group in Denmark.

You said that wasn't really big enough for you to investigate,

but you'd stay in contact

and if it became bigger, then you could revisit it.

It did.

I used to work for the British security service,

otherwise known as MI5,

so the film team has asked me in to debrief you.

He is a retired chef. Mm-hm.

He resides in the suburbs of Copenhagen,

together with his family.

Do you happen to know if he's told his wife what he was doing?

I don't think so. No?

And, over those early years, your mole had progressed up

the hierarchy of the North Korean Friendship Association

until he was a position of influence in Europe

and knew the head guy in Europe.

Do you think Alejandro is dangerous?

You brought in a fake businessman.

He has to play the part of Mr James.

And suddenly the North Koreans get very excited about the

possibility of weapons trading, or drug smuggling, or whatever.

And deals are cut, contracts are signed.

So, what I want to think about is where does that leave us now?

And did the Koreans have any preferences

when it came to countries or suggestions?

The mole speaks about how they are going to produce methamphetamine

and weapons, and then Alejandro Cao de Benos says...

DETECTOR BEEPS

I knew, if something is going to happen here, it's over.

BEEPING

HE SCOFFS

BEEPING CONTINUES

CAR STARTS

HE EXHALES

What happened next?

HE GROANS

So, just to be fully clear here,

he was fully briefed on the plans to build the secret factory in Uganda?

Loved the idea. OK. Yeah.

In Uganda, Mr James would be the playmaker.

Yeah, OK.

And to have it all on camera,

he brought a photographer who was filming

for a covert video about his life as a man of international mystery.

And the mole, he brought his hidden camera.

So, what happens next?

Is that...?

And who is he?

NEWSCASTER: Earlier this month, North Korea threatened to fire

missiles towards the US territory of Guam.

This provoked the US president into threats of war.

North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.

They will be met with fire and fury

like the world has never seen.

LAUGHTER

How had you found the island in the first place?

LAUGHTER

EXCITED CHATTER

MAN: We are waiting for someone.

Your sister? Your brother?

MAN: I will show you one on the other side and then we are done,

and then you have an idea of all the things.

Did you get an impression that they had something out of the box,

so they had done this before and had a standard plan,

a standard look for disguising these sort of facilities?

They had worked with other people like this?

How can that be done? Was the government involved?

We were really crazy as well.

Thank you. APPLAUSE

GROANING

LAUGHTER

THUMPING MUSIC PLAYS

So, although the true purpose of the project was not

revealed to the Africans,

buying the island in Uganda

and using it for a secret weapons and drug factory

seemed to be right up the alley of the North Koreans,

which was kind of important to prove.

But it did not stop there because, while in Uganda,

the North Korean arms dealer Mr Danny was ready to take

the joint venture a step further.

Yeah, we can meet in the lobby.

North Koreans needing to move armaments to Syria is

actually a very interesting piece of information,

so please allow me to digress a little bit.

Historically, North Korea and Syria have been friends for many years

and the North Koreans were even building a nuclear reactor

in the Syrian desert until the Israelis decided to blow it up.

During the civil war in Syria,

the New York Times published a story about how North Korea was

helping the Syrian regime with its chemical weapons programme.

At the same time, small arms from North Korea have been found

in the hands of fighters from the Islamic State,

but most likely these weapons were stolen from the Syrian army.

So, when the North Korean arms dealer Mr Danny wants to send bombs

and projectiles to Syria, the end user is probably the Syrian regime.

So what did you say to Danny

when he suggested that you help with the Syria move?

Something I still feel bad about is sending Mr James to Beijing

to meet with North Korean arms dealers.

People who are in the know about the dark side

advised us strongly against it.

Because if the Chinese intelligence service would shine

their lights on Mr James, it would be another ball game entirely.

But Mr James is a man who craves action

and I am a film-maker who craves sensation, so he went anyway.

Both men are North Korean.

I know this because sometimes they speak Korean to each other

in the dialect of the North.

Asking for names of clients

and contacts in the world of arms dealing seems to be a show stopper.

And what was the power dynamic between these two?

Was the enigmatic Stoneface summoned to Beijing

in order to verify the identity of Mr James?

He never says a word, he does not even smile,

so we can never know for sure about Stoneface,

but it is safe to say that his appearance made a difference.

Yeah.

HE LAUGHS

HE LAUGHS LOUDLY

So, when did they contact you again?

Hm.

My actor, Mr James, seemed to be taking on a life of his own.

That was a concern.

Another concern was the mole going back to Spain to brief

Alejandro Cao de Benos about the Tourism Project, the code name

chosen for the underground weapons and drugs factory in Uganda.

By now, the mole had been undercover for more than seven years

and paranoia was running high.

So far, no intelligence service had caught onto us,

but, every time we met with Alejandro Cao de Benos,

we had to consider the possibility

that he was being followed by spooks.

At the same time, we also had to consider the risk

that Alejandro would upgrade his counter surveillance

with new devices for discovering microphones.

From now on, the mole would only meet with Alejandro in a hotel

chosen by us with security on standby next door