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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,218 --> 00:00:13,668 [Radio chatter] 2 00:00:17,845 --> 00:00:22,505 Narrator: How do we deal with a country like North Korea? 3 00:00:22,608 --> 00:00:26,578 Isolation? Threats? Or dialogue? 4 00:00:26,681 --> 00:00:29,891 ♪♪ 5 00:00:29,995 --> 00:00:32,584 Norwegian artist Morten Traavik 6 00:00:32,687 --> 00:00:35,966 has worked with the regime for years. 7 00:00:36,070 --> 00:00:40,902 Now, he's here to propose a risky project -- 8 00:00:41,006 --> 00:00:46,874 a modern art academy inside the world's most secluded country. 9 00:00:46,977 --> 00:00:50,050 [Man speaking Korean] 10 00:00:53,639 --> 00:00:56,815 Okay. So, you visited my country 11 00:00:56,918 --> 00:00:59,300 more than 11 or 12 or something. 12 00:00:59,404 --> 00:01:02,407 It's a good thing because then you came here not as a tourist, 13 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:05,789 but you came here as a cultural exchange 14 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:08,275 and mutual understanding between the countries. 15 00:01:08,378 --> 00:01:11,726 So, I sure appreciate your visit, 16 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:15,040 but you should welcome our troops, as well, 17 00:01:15,144 --> 00:01:17,249 to other countries. 18 00:01:17,353 --> 00:01:19,113 You should be the introducer, 19 00:01:19,217 --> 00:01:21,702 introducing the Korean culture to the others. 20 00:01:21,805 --> 00:01:23,186 Traavik: I am the introducer. 21 00:01:23,290 --> 00:01:24,981 This is the reason why we are here, 22 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:26,948 why we are having this meeting. 23 00:01:27,052 --> 00:01:29,848 You are aware that, in our part of the world, 24 00:01:29,951 --> 00:01:35,612 there is a lot of political negativity towards the DPRK. 25 00:01:35,716 --> 00:01:39,306 So, for each of the projects that we do together, 26 00:01:39,409 --> 00:01:40,721 we are like the drop 27 00:01:40,824 --> 00:01:43,827 that hollows out the stone, as they say. 28 00:01:43,931 --> 00:01:45,657 How to deal with it? What is your plan? 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,317 The idea for this DMZ Academy is that 30 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:54,286 by inviting artists from many countries and many continents, 31 00:01:54,390 --> 00:01:56,978 we are creating more and more understanding 32 00:01:57,082 --> 00:02:02,432 and more and more people realize that the DPRK is open. 33 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:09,267 [Speaking Korean] 34 00:02:09,370 --> 00:02:13,202 Okay. So, according to these plans, step-by-step, 35 00:02:13,305 --> 00:02:16,722 that I hope to develop, 36 00:02:16,826 --> 00:02:22,142 improve and facilitate our cultural exchange 37 00:02:22,245 --> 00:02:24,282 between your country and my country. 38 00:02:24,385 --> 00:02:26,042 [Speaking Korean] 39 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:28,044 [Speaking Korean] 40 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:31,530 ♪♪ 41 00:02:31,634 --> 00:02:35,603 ♪♪ 42 00:02:35,707 --> 00:02:37,226 Reporter: Our top story this morning, 43 00:02:37,329 --> 00:02:39,607 the dangerous situation on the Korean Peninsula 44 00:02:39,711 --> 00:02:41,713 is getting more intense. 45 00:02:41,816 --> 00:02:45,993 ♪♪ 46 00:02:46,096 --> 00:02:50,894 ♪♪ 47 00:02:50,998 --> 00:02:55,105 Reporter #2: War of words between the U.S. and North Korea is intensifying. 48 00:02:55,209 --> 00:02:57,246 Reporter #3: President Trump says Kim Jong-un 49 00:02:57,349 --> 00:02:59,627 will be tested like never before. 50 00:02:59,731 --> 00:03:03,769 ♪♪ 51 00:03:03,873 --> 00:03:08,533 ♪♪ 52 00:03:08,636 --> 00:03:10,259 Host: So, who will flinch first? 53 00:03:10,362 --> 00:03:15,402 ♪♪ 54 00:03:15,505 --> 00:03:20,614 ♪♪ 55 00:03:20,717 --> 00:03:22,823 Narrator: After more than two years of planning, 56 00:03:22,926 --> 00:03:25,066 Morten arrives in North Korea 57 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:29,485 with a select group of international artists. 58 00:03:29,588 --> 00:03:31,659 The group is invited to spend a week 59 00:03:31,763 --> 00:03:33,972 in the capital, Pyongyang, 60 00:03:34,075 --> 00:03:37,355 producing art and meeting North Korean colleagues 61 00:03:37,458 --> 00:03:40,358 who rarely get input from the outside world. 62 00:03:40,461 --> 00:03:42,325 [Camera shutter clicking] 63 00:03:42,429 --> 00:03:45,880 ♪♪ 64 00:03:45,984 --> 00:03:50,160 Traavik: The DMZ Academy is the first-ever 65 00:03:50,264 --> 00:03:55,235 contemporary art seminar in North Korea. 66 00:03:55,338 --> 00:03:57,133 For me, the scenery here is very similar 67 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:59,446 to some small part in China, you know. 68 00:03:59,549 --> 00:04:01,724 -Mm-hmm. Yeah. -I mean, you know, 69 00:04:01,827 --> 00:04:03,588 all the people. -The whole landscape. 70 00:04:03,691 --> 00:04:06,280 People riding bicycles. 71 00:04:06,384 --> 00:04:09,732 Narrator: Morten has hand-picked the foreign artists 72 00:04:09,835 --> 00:04:15,496 who all represent art forms not known or allowed in North Korea. 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,603 ♪♪ 74 00:04:18,706 --> 00:04:23,263 His idea is to use modern art as a Trojan Horse 75 00:04:23,366 --> 00:04:26,680 inside the totalitarian regime. 76 00:04:26,783 --> 00:04:33,134 ♪♪ 77 00:04:33,238 --> 00:04:35,930 Traavik: It's not to bring peace and democracy to North Korea. 78 00:04:36,034 --> 00:04:39,175 I mean, they have to sort that out themselves. 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,111 But it is to question the way we and they look at the world. 80 00:04:44,214 --> 00:04:46,976 ♪♪ 81 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:51,187 To rage within the machine instead of raging against it. 82 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:54,777 ♪♪ 83 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,606 [Laughter] 84 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:59,989 You can see how there's still some, you know, happy people. 85 00:05:00,092 --> 00:05:02,578 They're pretty... pretty happy. 86 00:05:02,681 --> 00:05:06,720 ♪♪ 87 00:05:06,823 --> 00:05:08,480 Narrator: The Academy is hosted 88 00:05:08,584 --> 00:05:12,519 by the Committee for Cultural Relations. 89 00:05:12,622 --> 00:05:14,728 Traavik: Chocolate Eskimo? Ice cream, anyone? 90 00:05:14,831 --> 00:05:17,213 Their goal is to turn the artists 91 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,353 into North Korean allies. 92 00:05:19,457 --> 00:05:21,010 Delicious. 93 00:05:21,113 --> 00:05:24,807 An invitation they might regret. 94 00:05:26,429 --> 00:05:28,638 Are you walking or staying here? 95 00:05:28,742 --> 00:05:30,571 No, I think we are going back in the bus, 96 00:05:30,675 --> 00:05:33,091 but if you want to have a walk, it should be fine. 97 00:05:33,194 --> 00:05:34,679 Just go? 98 00:05:34,782 --> 00:05:40,270 ♪♪ 99 00:05:40,374 --> 00:05:45,828 ♪♪ 100 00:05:45,931 --> 00:05:47,450 [Horn honks] 101 00:05:50,177 --> 00:05:51,765 Oh. Oh. Oh! 102 00:05:51,868 --> 00:05:54,492 -Now he'll go to jail. -Yeah. 103 00:05:54,595 --> 00:05:57,184 -He violate the traffic. -Yeah. 104 00:05:57,287 --> 00:05:59,186 The regulation also. 105 00:05:59,289 --> 00:06:03,604 Of course, it's not my fault, but it's his. 106 00:06:03,708 --> 00:06:04,881 Please, please. 107 00:06:04,985 --> 00:06:06,262 I warn you a time. 108 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:08,195 Please don't leave the tour group again. 109 00:06:08,298 --> 00:06:09,369 Okay? 110 00:06:09,472 --> 00:06:10,853 He's just hoping to be arrested 111 00:06:10,956 --> 00:06:13,234 by one of the beautiful traffic ladies. 112 00:06:13,338 --> 00:06:15,513 -Okay. And being tortured. -Yes, being tortured. 113 00:06:15,616 --> 00:06:17,273 So, being tortured by the beautiful officer. 114 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:19,448 -Very intimately, yes. -No problem. 115 00:06:19,551 --> 00:06:21,311 [Laughs] 116 00:06:21,415 --> 00:06:24,142 If our people see him just crossing the road, 117 00:06:24,245 --> 00:06:26,800 they will say, "Oh, you, why are you crossing the road?" 118 00:06:26,903 --> 00:06:30,113 So, that is why. Avoid that. 119 00:06:30,217 --> 00:06:33,634 [ Speaking indistinctly ] Stop him. 120 00:06:33,738 --> 00:06:36,603 She was actually showing him what not to do. 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,680 ♪♪ 122 00:06:44,783 --> 00:06:49,719 ♪♪ 123 00:06:49,823 --> 00:06:52,929 Nowak: I started building sound systems. 124 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:57,106 When I finished one, I would start another one... 125 00:06:57,209 --> 00:06:59,522 and that became like an addiction. 126 00:06:59,626 --> 00:07:02,939 ♪♪ 127 00:07:03,043 --> 00:07:06,840 I can't bring physical artworks to North Korea, 128 00:07:06,943 --> 00:07:08,635 but I can bring a soundscape 129 00:07:08,738 --> 00:07:11,603 and talk about perception of reality. 130 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:14,399 ♪♪ 131 00:07:16,332 --> 00:07:17,644 Traavik: Alright, guys. 132 00:07:17,747 --> 00:07:22,476 The idea behind this whole enterprise 133 00:07:22,580 --> 00:07:27,067 is actually to expose you 134 00:07:27,170 --> 00:07:30,484 to North Korea and vice versa 135 00:07:30,588 --> 00:07:33,038 and see what happens, basically. 136 00:07:33,142 --> 00:07:35,109 Man: We probably can jump into the questions 137 00:07:35,213 --> 00:07:37,215 about how to produce and... 138 00:07:37,318 --> 00:07:42,151 You will be sharing studios with Korean artists. 139 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:46,673 When we get to the situation where we can present ourselves, 140 00:07:46,776 --> 00:07:50,331 I think we should just try to engage them in an inviting way. 141 00:07:50,435 --> 00:07:52,851 It will be, like, in one of the studios 142 00:07:52,955 --> 00:07:55,233 or in a meeting room at the Pyongyang University 143 00:07:55,336 --> 00:07:57,166 of Fine Arts. 144 00:07:57,269 --> 00:08:01,446 But the Committee asks to review the contents 145 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:03,137 of your presentations... 146 00:08:03,241 --> 00:08:04,725 Mm-hmm. 147 00:08:04,829 --> 00:08:07,521 ...just to make sure that you will not be too naughty. 148 00:08:07,625 --> 00:08:10,593 [Laughter] 149 00:08:10,697 --> 00:08:13,216 Is it something naughty? 150 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,046 Oh, it's very, very naughty. 151 00:08:15,149 --> 00:08:16,461 Is it very French? 152 00:08:16,565 --> 00:08:19,464 It's very universal, I must say. 153 00:08:19,568 --> 00:08:21,259 I hope it's not too rotten. 154 00:08:21,362 --> 00:08:23,088 I kept it in the fridge, but... 155 00:08:25,401 --> 00:08:27,196 -So, it's-- -Oh, it's kind of... 156 00:08:27,299 --> 00:08:30,302 a bit like... [Sniffs] 157 00:08:30,406 --> 00:08:32,960 But -- No, it still smells okay. 158 00:08:33,064 --> 00:08:35,238 This is my blood. 159 00:08:35,342 --> 00:08:36,446 It's your own blood? 160 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:37,758 It's my own blood, yes. 161 00:08:37,862 --> 00:08:40,002 I have, like, a bottle in my freezer at home, 162 00:08:40,105 --> 00:08:41,797 and I just took a sample of it. 163 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:42,936 What do you use it for? 164 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:44,627 -What? -What do you use it for? 165 00:08:44,731 --> 00:08:47,872 Uh, I took into -- for a presentation 166 00:08:47,975 --> 00:08:51,047 because I printed a poster with human blood, as well. 167 00:08:51,151 --> 00:08:53,118 So, I use this. This little tool. 168 00:08:53,222 --> 00:08:54,879 You know, I spike my finger. 169 00:08:54,982 --> 00:08:56,294 [Click] 170 00:08:56,397 --> 00:08:58,192 Really? Oh, shit. 171 00:08:58,296 --> 00:09:01,230 And I sign my books. 172 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:02,818 -Like this? -Yeah. 173 00:09:02,921 --> 00:09:09,721 ♪♪ 174 00:09:09,825 --> 00:09:12,621 Valnoir: What inspires me is what is negative 175 00:09:12,724 --> 00:09:16,521 in the human mind? 176 00:09:16,625 --> 00:09:22,251 Right now, I'm crushing bones to create ink. 177 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:25,288 It comes from this piece of hip, 178 00:09:25,392 --> 00:09:29,845 a human hip that will be used then for printing. 179 00:09:29,948 --> 00:09:34,850 So, maybe you can see that the texture is very abrasive. 180 00:09:34,953 --> 00:09:38,163 North Korea triggers my curiosities a lot. 181 00:09:38,267 --> 00:09:40,200 I'm very curious to see what happens 182 00:09:40,303 --> 00:09:43,375 when you confront our vision of art 183 00:09:43,479 --> 00:09:45,205 and their vision of art. 184 00:09:45,308 --> 00:09:46,413 Can I sit? 185 00:09:46,516 --> 00:09:49,002 -Yeah. -Here, you mean? 186 00:09:49,105 --> 00:09:53,385 Narrator: A censorship screening is set up by Mr. Ham. 187 00:09:53,489 --> 00:09:57,769 He wants to make sure that North Korean artists 188 00:09:57,873 --> 00:10:01,324 will not be contaminated by their visitors. 189 00:10:01,428 --> 00:10:04,120 I am removing what has been rejected. 190 00:10:04,224 --> 00:10:05,708 [Giggles] 191 00:10:05,812 --> 00:10:09,850 They don't want this, this, this, this or this. 192 00:10:09,954 --> 00:10:12,991 So, I work with the music industry, 193 00:10:13,095 --> 00:10:15,960 and I design cover artworks for bands. 194 00:10:16,063 --> 00:10:18,169 So, this is like a jacket, 195 00:10:18,272 --> 00:10:20,585 a rock jacket, but with the patches 196 00:10:20,689 --> 00:10:22,967 stitched on the back of the guitar player. 197 00:10:23,070 --> 00:10:24,451 Yeah. [Speaking indistinctly] 198 00:10:24,554 --> 00:10:26,971 So, this I will show and I will explain. 199 00:10:27,074 --> 00:10:28,800 Me, I cannot get the point. 200 00:10:28,904 --> 00:10:32,632 Please give me the message you want to convey. 201 00:10:32,735 --> 00:10:37,533 So, look. This is blood. We made ink with the blood, 202 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:42,089 and we printed 100 copies of this poster with my blood. 203 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:47,888 [Laughs] 204 00:10:47,992 --> 00:10:50,442 Traavik: If I can interject, as an artist, 205 00:10:50,546 --> 00:10:52,168 if you want to show people 206 00:10:52,272 --> 00:10:55,655 that I am willing to do anything for my art, 207 00:10:55,758 --> 00:10:58,243 you use your own blood. It's like your own heart, 208 00:10:58,347 --> 00:11:00,383 your own feelings, into your art. 209 00:11:00,487 --> 00:11:03,524 I understand that you extracted your own blood 210 00:11:03,628 --> 00:11:04,974 and you used coffins. 211 00:11:05,078 --> 00:11:08,012 It's really, you know, kind of... 212 00:11:08,115 --> 00:11:09,323 -Horrifying. -It's bizarre... 213 00:11:09,427 --> 00:11:11,291 -Bizarre, yeah. -...printing, 214 00:11:11,394 --> 00:11:16,020 but just showing them this is bizarre printing. 215 00:11:16,123 --> 00:11:20,990 I don't think that's the kind of message that inspires people. 216 00:11:21,094 --> 00:11:24,442 At the moment, I would say you are not ready. 217 00:11:26,996 --> 00:11:28,480 Who will be the next? 218 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:30,655 Man: Oh, I can. Yeah. 219 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:32,795 Ms. Yun. 220 00:11:32,899 --> 00:11:33,831 This is for you. 221 00:11:33,934 --> 00:11:35,073 Okay, thank you. 222 00:11:35,177 --> 00:11:36,592 But I need to sign it before -- 223 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,076 No! No, no!Man: What he is doing? 224 00:11:43,668 --> 00:11:45,187 That is... 225 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:47,051 -Forever. -Oh. 226 00:11:47,154 --> 00:11:50,537 To my future wife, Ms. Y... 227 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,333 -Y-U-N. -Y-U-N. 228 00:11:53,436 --> 00:11:55,680 ♪♪ 229 00:11:55,784 --> 00:11:58,200 This is called the "Permafrost." 230 00:11:58,303 --> 00:11:59,615 [Speaking indistinctly] 231 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,341 Yeah. 232 00:12:01,444 --> 00:12:06,242 Do you have some painting related to people's life? 233 00:12:06,346 --> 00:12:07,796 Everyday life, you mean? 234 00:12:07,899 --> 00:12:11,006 Nothing related to politics. Just, you know, mood. 235 00:12:11,109 --> 00:12:12,214 Yes. 236 00:12:12,317 --> 00:12:13,594 [Blows] 237 00:12:13,698 --> 00:12:15,286 You have to let it dry for a few minutes. 238 00:12:15,389 --> 00:12:17,391 Yeah. Thank you. 239 00:12:17,495 --> 00:12:18,668 Kiss me. 240 00:12:18,772 --> 00:12:22,051 [Both giggle] 241 00:12:22,155 --> 00:12:24,985 Do you have any women...? 242 00:12:25,089 --> 00:12:26,331 Just to my girlfriends. 243 00:12:26,435 --> 00:12:28,161 Okay. 244 00:12:28,264 --> 00:12:30,888 I think Mr. Ham, he will kill you. 245 00:12:30,991 --> 00:12:32,303 Why? 246 00:12:32,406 --> 00:12:36,479 Because you give him this extremely hard task. 247 00:12:36,583 --> 00:12:38,171 No. Soft task. 248 00:12:38,274 --> 00:12:40,414 Soft task? Come on! 249 00:12:40,518 --> 00:12:43,521 Alright. So, see you tomorrow then, eh? 250 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:45,868 ♪♪ 251 00:12:45,972 --> 00:12:47,594 I think it will be fine. 252 00:12:47,697 --> 00:12:50,839 Beautiful. I love this clash of cultures. 253 00:12:50,942 --> 00:12:52,426 [Whistle blows] 254 00:12:58,225 --> 00:13:00,296 Pres. Donald Trump: No-one has shown more contempt 255 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,196 for other nations and for the well-being 256 00:13:03,299 --> 00:13:05,025 of their own people 257 00:13:05,129 --> 00:13:09,098 than the depraved regime in North Korea. 258 00:13:10,651 --> 00:13:16,934 If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, 259 00:13:17,037 --> 00:13:21,007 then evil will triumph. 260 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:23,423 It is time for all nations to work together 261 00:13:23,526 --> 00:13:25,218 to isolate the Kim regime 262 00:13:25,321 --> 00:13:29,015 until it ceases its hostile behavior. 263 00:13:29,118 --> 00:13:33,571 ♪♪ 264 00:13:39,301 --> 00:13:40,716 Narrator: Every morning, 265 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:43,167 flag ceremonies take place to motivate people 266 00:13:43,270 --> 00:13:44,927 on their way to work. 267 00:13:45,031 --> 00:13:48,068 ♪♪ 268 00:13:48,172 --> 00:13:51,382 German sound artist Nik has made an appointment 269 00:13:51,485 --> 00:13:54,454 with Mr. Ham to record the performance. 270 00:13:54,557 --> 00:14:00,391 ♪♪ 271 00:14:00,494 --> 00:14:01,530 Morning. 272 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:04,119 But when Mr. Ham does not show up, 273 00:14:04,222 --> 00:14:06,293 Nik faces a dilemma. 274 00:14:06,397 --> 00:14:07,743 Here's the wall. 275 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:11,057 We can't get through here without Mr. Ham. 276 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:21,274 I'm worried that Mr. Ham is not amused when we go without him, 277 00:14:21,377 --> 00:14:24,070 but we could also just go. 278 00:14:25,554 --> 00:14:32,250 ♪♪ 279 00:14:32,354 --> 00:14:39,085 ♪♪ 280 00:14:39,188 --> 00:14:45,885 ♪♪ 281 00:14:45,988 --> 00:14:52,615 ♪♪ 282 00:14:52,719 --> 00:14:59,415 ♪♪ 283 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:06,215 ♪♪ 284 00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:13,050 ♪♪ 285 00:15:13,153 --> 00:15:19,815 ♪♪ 286 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,230 [Music stops] 287 00:15:21,334 --> 00:15:22,749 You are in our country. 288 00:15:22,852 --> 00:15:24,475 Yeah, I know. 289 00:15:24,578 --> 00:15:27,685 Then acting alone with all the gears, 290 00:15:27,788 --> 00:15:31,102 especially with camera, with microphone, 291 00:15:31,206 --> 00:15:32,448 pointing like this, 292 00:15:32,552 --> 00:15:35,244 it looks suspicious without explanation. 293 00:15:35,348 --> 00:15:39,939 And without me, you cannot explain it to the local people. 294 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:41,112 Okay. 295 00:15:41,216 --> 00:15:42,665 That's what I'm worried about. 296 00:15:42,769 --> 00:15:46,773 You can be mistaken for something else you are not. 297 00:15:46,876 --> 00:15:48,706 -Okay. -That's why I'm here. 298 00:15:48,809 --> 00:15:51,191 I thought because it's just a few meters, it's okay 299 00:15:51,295 --> 00:15:53,745 because you knew that I'm here and that I'm going. 300 00:15:53,849 --> 00:15:55,920 I thought it's okay if I already start. 301 00:15:56,024 --> 00:15:58,060 Without explanation, it looks suspicious 302 00:15:58,164 --> 00:15:59,544 without authority. 303 00:15:59,648 --> 00:16:01,788 It looks like -- -It's not supposed to be there. 304 00:16:01,891 --> 00:16:03,928 It looks like...suspicious. 305 00:16:04,032 --> 00:16:05,481 Okay. Alright. 306 00:16:05,585 --> 00:16:06,793 It's okay. 307 00:16:06,896 --> 00:16:08,174 No hard feelings, but, you know. 308 00:16:08,277 --> 00:16:11,798 I'm sorry and I apologize. 309 00:16:11,901 --> 00:16:14,283 You could be better. 310 00:16:14,387 --> 00:16:15,836 -Yeah. -What's up? 311 00:16:15,940 --> 00:16:17,493 What have you done now? 312 00:16:17,597 --> 00:16:20,013 I have done very nice photographs. 313 00:16:22,602 --> 00:16:27,607 Narrator: The hosts are personally responsible for their guests. 314 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:31,680 Their job is to stay with them at all times 315 00:16:31,783 --> 00:16:34,614 and, of course, make them fall in love 316 00:16:34,717 --> 00:16:36,996 with Korean art and culture. 317 00:16:37,099 --> 00:16:40,585 ♪♪ 318 00:16:40,689 --> 00:16:42,035 Look at that. 319 00:16:42,139 --> 00:16:48,110 ♪♪ 320 00:16:48,214 --> 00:16:50,906 Traavik: I think you will struggle to find any society, 321 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,528 anywhere in the world, 322 00:16:52,632 --> 00:16:59,018 where art is used to promote the state ideology 323 00:16:59,121 --> 00:17:03,332 to such an extent as you will see in North Korea. 324 00:17:03,436 --> 00:17:04,989 You see art everywhere. 325 00:17:05,093 --> 00:17:09,442 ♪♪ 326 00:17:09,545 --> 00:17:14,619 ♪♪ 327 00:17:14,723 --> 00:17:18,313 But all of that art is tailor-made for once purpose. 328 00:17:18,416 --> 00:17:20,660 One purpose only. 329 00:17:20,763 --> 00:17:26,355 ♪♪ 330 00:17:26,459 --> 00:17:28,461 So, our President Kim Il-sung said 331 00:17:28,564 --> 00:17:33,190 it is actually the way that painters should paint. 332 00:17:33,293 --> 00:17:34,812 Look at this. 333 00:17:34,915 --> 00:17:39,058 It's crazy good quality. 334 00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:43,062 We have to keep in mind that the history of modern art, 335 00:17:43,165 --> 00:17:47,583 to a North Korean, stops around 100 years ago 336 00:17:47,687 --> 00:17:51,691 when Picasso started making naughty experiments. 337 00:17:51,794 --> 00:17:55,833 If you teach the students about the development 338 00:17:55,936 --> 00:18:01,045 of the European classical painting history, 339 00:18:01,149 --> 00:18:04,704 do you also go further, like the Romantic era, 340 00:18:04,807 --> 00:18:09,364 Impressionists, Cubism and the modern artistry, 341 00:18:09,467 --> 00:18:10,917 or where do you stop? 342 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:13,057 The important thing is that we have to be 343 00:18:13,161 --> 00:18:15,439 critical about the pieces. 344 00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:20,547 We take only something we really need and apply it. 345 00:18:29,142 --> 00:18:33,181 ♪♪ 346 00:18:33,284 --> 00:18:37,806 Placht: I have no idea how it's going to look like before I start. 347 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:40,671 It's a really big mystery each time. 348 00:18:40,774 --> 00:18:42,949 ♪♪ 349 00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:47,195 Of course, there is always hidden information in artworks 350 00:18:47,298 --> 00:18:48,851 because it's a language. 351 00:18:48,955 --> 00:18:50,957 So, if you want to understand a language, 352 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:53,235 you also have to give the effort. 353 00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:57,308 ♪♪ 354 00:18:57,412 --> 00:18:59,931 My strategy for being in North Korea 355 00:19:00,035 --> 00:19:04,522 is to remember, at all times, that I am a guest there. 356 00:19:04,626 --> 00:19:06,559 I'm there to become friends. 357 00:19:06,662 --> 00:19:09,527 Any new person you meet is a potential friend 358 00:19:09,631 --> 00:19:13,082 and so is also North Korea. 359 00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:14,774 The U.S. 360 00:19:14,877 --> 00:19:19,572 The U.S. is under our target. 361 00:19:19,675 --> 00:19:22,851 Understand? -Yeah. 362 00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:25,164 And these are the weapons, as you see. 363 00:19:25,267 --> 00:19:26,579 Yeah. 364 00:19:26,682 --> 00:19:29,892 -Simple. -Very simple. Mm. 365 00:19:29,996 --> 00:19:31,722 -Anything more? -Yeah. This? 366 00:19:31,825 --> 00:19:33,620 Because we have the war here. 367 00:19:33,724 --> 00:19:38,177 -Mm-hmm. -And here's the peace stuff. 368 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,733 The peace is being defended by our strong armies. 369 00:19:42,836 --> 00:19:44,493 -Hmm. -That's all. 370 00:19:44,597 --> 00:19:48,014 So, let's hope for peace. 371 00:19:48,117 --> 00:19:49,705 Yeah. Let's hope for it. 372 00:19:49,809 --> 00:19:51,224 Yeah. Let's work on it. 373 00:19:51,328 --> 00:19:52,915 [Both chuckle] 374 00:19:53,019 --> 00:19:56,367 ♪♪ 375 00:19:56,471 --> 00:20:01,476 Can we ask the artist, in the 55 years he's worked here, 376 00:20:01,579 --> 00:20:04,686 what has been his favorite moment? 377 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:07,206 [Speaking Korean] 378 00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:15,386 So, there is a specific moment. 379 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:18,320 Actually, he consider the moments 380 00:20:18,424 --> 00:20:25,051 whenever our great leader sees works of his and appreciate him. 381 00:20:25,154 --> 00:20:27,536 He consider it to be the happiest moment. 382 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,746 Very lucky. Happy man. 383 00:20:30,850 --> 00:20:32,921 He's painting it from the photo of a painting. 384 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:37,684 That's why. -[Speaking Korean] 385 00:20:37,788 --> 00:20:41,688 This is what she drew many years before. 386 00:20:41,792 --> 00:20:45,347 He is trying to complete, perfect the picture. 387 00:20:45,451 --> 00:20:47,315 [Speaking indistinctly] 388 00:20:47,418 --> 00:20:49,800 Boyd: They're not painting from their minds. 389 00:20:49,903 --> 00:20:53,217 They're not painting with an idea. 390 00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:55,737 They're painting from a copy. 391 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,018 ♪♪ 392 00:21:01,121 --> 00:21:07,024 ♪♪ 393 00:21:07,127 --> 00:21:08,957 Well, this is the second edition 394 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,372 of Sonic In London. 395 00:21:10,476 --> 00:21:12,236 Two days, taking over the entire venue 396 00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:15,860 and it's music which is visual or visual art which is sonic. 397 00:21:15,964 --> 00:21:18,794 Let's go. Let's go, let's go. 398 00:21:18,898 --> 00:21:21,901 I spent 20 years directing opera, orchestras, 399 00:21:22,004 --> 00:21:24,317 and visualizing music. 400 00:21:24,421 --> 00:21:27,147 I just want to wish you luck for the performance 401 00:21:27,251 --> 00:21:29,564 because I know it's the first time you do it 402 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:33,809 and you're probably very, very nervous. 403 00:21:35,363 --> 00:21:37,813 ♪♪ 404 00:21:37,917 --> 00:21:39,263 I'm especially inspired 405 00:21:39,367 --> 00:21:43,267 by presenting unknown artists from cultures 406 00:21:43,371 --> 00:21:46,857 we in the U.K. may not know of. 407 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,552 ♪♪ 408 00:21:52,656 --> 00:21:59,145 ♪♪ 409 00:21:59,248 --> 00:22:01,734 So, during this trip, I hope that I meet people 410 00:22:01,837 --> 00:22:04,944 and can find out, can I work with these people? 411 00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:09,914 ♪♪ 412 00:22:10,018 --> 00:22:15,541 ♪♪ 413 00:22:15,644 --> 00:22:17,163 Wow! 414 00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:19,821 [Applause] 415 00:22:19,924 --> 00:22:21,961 [Conversing indistinctly] 416 00:22:24,032 --> 00:22:25,654 Narrator: At the music conservatory, 417 00:22:25,758 --> 00:22:28,761 the group is given a traditional tour by the director. 418 00:22:28,864 --> 00:22:32,558 [Students singing] 419 00:22:36,009 --> 00:22:40,911 Nik and Cathie are supposed to give lectures to students here, 420 00:22:41,014 --> 00:22:42,533 but when the tour ends, 421 00:22:42,637 --> 00:22:46,295 those plans have obviously been changed. 422 00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:49,091 Traavik: We are now going to have a little talk, yes, 423 00:22:49,195 --> 00:22:51,646 about Mr. Nik, to do the presentation? 424 00:22:51,749 --> 00:22:54,442 What the presentation looks like? 425 00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,685 What? Come on, we already agreed on this. 426 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:57,755 -Okay. -Yeah? 427 00:22:57,859 --> 00:22:59,067 [Speaking Korean] 428 00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:01,241 Nowak: I made recordings, sound recordings, 429 00:23:01,345 --> 00:23:03,278 from the unaudible spectrum. 430 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:06,143 They are above and below what we can hear, 431 00:23:06,246 --> 00:23:09,215 but I have transferred them into the audible. 432 00:23:09,318 --> 00:23:12,805 [Speaking Korean] 433 00:23:12,908 --> 00:23:16,636 Will here be any people that would hear it, other than us? 434 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:18,397 [Speaking Korean] 435 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,847 No? Then I won't do it. 436 00:23:20,951 --> 00:23:24,437 It doesn't make any sense. -He will hear. 437 00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:25,749 -What? -He will hear it. 438 00:23:25,852 --> 00:23:28,199 He will hear it? Yeah, that's true. 439 00:23:28,303 --> 00:23:30,305 Okay. Let's do it. 440 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:35,137 And Mr. Ri, about me being able to present 441 00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:39,383 to a small group of musicians, as was planned? 442 00:23:39,487 --> 00:23:41,420 The plan, please? 443 00:23:43,525 --> 00:23:48,599 We will take it, but now we will just getting Nik's thing going. 444 00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:51,291 So, we will get there but... 445 00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:57,919 [Chirping] 446 00:24:02,613 --> 00:24:06,237 [Warbling] 447 00:24:06,341 --> 00:24:08,550 He is not interested or...? 448 00:24:08,654 --> 00:24:10,863 No. -[Speaking Korean] 449 00:24:10,966 --> 00:24:12,830 Hold a sec. 450 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:16,765 He heard already. 451 00:24:16,869 --> 00:24:18,457 He heard it already? 452 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,978 But he can't because it's from the upper ultrasonic. 453 00:24:23,082 --> 00:24:26,223 That's bats and insects that you can't hear, 454 00:24:26,326 --> 00:24:28,812 so he hasn't heard it before. 455 00:24:28,915 --> 00:24:34,127 Because these are 40 kilohertz and 60 kilohertz, 456 00:24:34,231 --> 00:24:37,130 and we can only hear to 20 kilohertz maximum, 457 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:39,616 if he has the best ears on the planet. 458 00:24:43,136 --> 00:24:46,174 [Speaking Korean] 459 00:24:55,666 --> 00:25:02,190 ♪♪ 460 00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:08,852 ♪♪ 461 00:25:08,955 --> 00:25:15,514 ♪♪ 462 00:25:15,617 --> 00:25:22,141 ♪♪ 463 00:25:22,244 --> 00:25:28,803 ♪♪ 464 00:25:28,906 --> 00:25:35,464 ♪♪ 465 00:25:35,568 --> 00:25:42,126 ♪♪ 466 00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:46,372 ♪♪ 467 00:25:48,892 --> 00:25:53,034 Right now, even I have to say it's not very easy. 468 00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:57,348 Alright? And I beg you to respect that opinion. 469 00:25:57,452 --> 00:25:59,212 You are really keeping us, the whole group, 470 00:25:59,316 --> 00:26:02,526 on a very, very tight leash, as we say. 471 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:04,183 You know the dog? -Yeah. 472 00:26:04,286 --> 00:26:08,601 When you walk the dog, you are keeping the dog on the leash. 473 00:26:08,705 --> 00:26:10,499 Right? -We did that? 474 00:26:10,603 --> 00:26:12,122 It's an expression. 475 00:26:12,225 --> 00:26:14,365 Maybe we go out somewhere and just... 476 00:26:14,469 --> 00:26:18,024 But you see, it's even a problem to go out somewhere 477 00:26:18,128 --> 00:26:20,544 because then, somebody would want to do something 478 00:26:20,648 --> 00:26:22,339 and they will be told off, 479 00:26:22,442 --> 00:26:27,413 and we are just making even stronger the negative here. 480 00:26:27,516 --> 00:26:29,518 So then, I would say it's actually better 481 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:31,693 that we just stay in the hotel, we don't go anywhere, 482 00:26:31,797 --> 00:26:37,009 because it always is a problem because you are not trusting us. 483 00:26:37,112 --> 00:26:41,427 -Yeah, I understand. -Maybe we talk off the camera? 484 00:26:41,530 --> 00:26:44,775 You come here and you see that the people are really happy. 485 00:26:44,879 --> 00:26:46,225 They're genuinely happy. 486 00:26:46,328 --> 00:26:49,435 There is really something functioning. 487 00:26:49,538 --> 00:26:53,128 -Yeah. -But then, it shows you later, 488 00:26:53,232 --> 00:26:56,097 when you, kind of, come to the limits, 489 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,927 it shows how it feels like, 490 00:26:59,031 --> 00:27:04,968 when you just step a little bit out of the frame, 491 00:27:05,071 --> 00:27:07,073 and then it becomes really terrible. 492 00:27:07,177 --> 00:27:08,937 You know what I heard about what some guys 493 00:27:09,041 --> 00:27:10,352 on the Committee said about you? 494 00:27:10,456 --> 00:27:13,217 That you were like a Chinese journalist 495 00:27:13,321 --> 00:27:15,012 and that you are not an artist 496 00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:16,496 because you are just a photographer 497 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,878 and that you are not important for the project. 498 00:27:18,982 --> 00:27:21,122 Okay. I'm fine because, in this country, 499 00:27:21,225 --> 00:27:25,091 people don't see photography as a form of art. 500 00:27:25,195 --> 00:27:26,506 -Yeah. -That's very, you know... 501 00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:27,922 I know it's a very... 502 00:27:28,025 --> 00:27:31,235 It's a complicated topic, you know. Enhh! 503 00:27:31,339 --> 00:27:32,996 But I'm okay. 504 00:27:33,099 --> 00:27:37,103 They see me as, you know, like a fucking photojournalist. 505 00:27:37,207 --> 00:27:39,036 That'll be fine for me. 506 00:27:39,140 --> 00:27:45,802 ♪♪ 507 00:27:45,905 --> 00:27:51,117 Shih: I'm a photographer and also a filmmaker. 508 00:27:51,221 --> 00:27:54,983 I'm doing my own work as well as commercial work. 509 00:27:55,087 --> 00:27:58,504 ♪♪ 510 00:27:58,607 --> 00:28:00,126 I think China and North Korea, 511 00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:02,957 we are very cultural close country 512 00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:07,375 because we used to have the same political system. 513 00:28:07,478 --> 00:28:13,001 Our cultures were both influenced by a Soviet culture. 514 00:28:13,105 --> 00:28:16,591 I was, like, "Okay, let's take a time machine to my past." 515 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,283 ♪♪ 516 00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:26,532 [Television playing indistinctly] 517 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,365 [Cheers and applause] 518 00:28:34,782 --> 00:28:36,853 It's always a bit hard to distinguish, 519 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:42,686 when you're here, between you being uptight and paranoid 520 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:46,897 and real difficulties. 521 00:28:47,001 --> 00:28:51,039 So, I think what this project, and the outcome so far, shows 522 00:28:51,143 --> 00:28:55,906 is the dilemma that North Koreans find themselves in. 523 00:28:56,010 --> 00:28:59,116 The wish for some kind of controlled interaction 524 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:02,775 with the outside world, 525 00:29:02,879 --> 00:29:09,609 but it's impossible to interact without getting influenced. 526 00:29:09,713 --> 00:29:13,130 They have been trying to completely dictate the terms, 527 00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:15,339 and that simply doesn't work, 528 00:29:15,443 --> 00:29:18,066 and, deep down, they do understand it. 529 00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:22,761 ♪♪ 530 00:29:22,864 --> 00:29:28,111 ♪♪ 531 00:29:32,874 --> 00:29:36,636 Narrator: Morten's confrontation with the hosts had an effect 532 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:39,916 and the artists are now given more freedom 533 00:29:40,019 --> 00:29:42,125 to do what they came for. 534 00:29:50,616 --> 00:29:52,273 Okay. 535 00:29:52,376 --> 00:29:56,725 It's a nice color, I think. 536 00:29:56,829 --> 00:29:58,693 Ooh, this is a beautiful green. 537 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:03,905 ♪♪ 538 00:30:04,009 --> 00:30:06,149 Woman: Yeah, quite strange. 539 00:30:06,252 --> 00:30:09,428 It's very different from yours, 540 00:30:09,531 --> 00:30:14,329 but this is how it can look like in the beginning. 541 00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:15,883 So, what do you think? I mean... 542 00:30:15,986 --> 00:30:17,988 Yeah? -It means nothing. 543 00:30:20,439 --> 00:30:22,613 It doesn't represent anything, 544 00:30:22,717 --> 00:30:25,962 but it's a very open way of working. 545 00:30:26,065 --> 00:30:29,517 It's like poetry. Like music, almost. 546 00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:34,142 ♪♪ 547 00:30:34,246 --> 00:30:38,837 ♪♪ 548 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:43,462 ♪♪ 549 00:30:43,565 --> 00:30:48,122 ♪♪ 550 00:30:48,225 --> 00:30:49,330 Your name? 551 00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:52,367 [Conversing in Korean] 552 00:30:52,471 --> 00:30:54,749 Mr... 553 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,371 Mr. Hendrik. 554 00:30:56,475 --> 00:30:57,821 Yes. 555 00:30:57,925 --> 00:30:59,823 And you are? What's your name? 556 00:30:59,927 --> 00:31:02,584 My name... 557 00:31:02,688 --> 00:31:04,103 [Conversing in Korean] 558 00:31:04,207 --> 00:31:08,763 Mr... 559 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:10,489 The trio. The trio. 560 00:31:10,592 --> 00:31:13,906 Yeah, it's nice. The three knights. 561 00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:18,635 The three musketeers of watercolors. 562 00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:20,879 Okay. [Groans] 563 00:31:20,982 --> 00:31:22,259 [Laughs] 564 00:31:22,363 --> 00:31:25,849 [Babbling] 565 00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:33,236 [Sighs] 566 00:31:33,339 --> 00:31:36,032 You like it? Yeah? You like? It's okay? 567 00:31:37,067 --> 00:31:39,069 [Sighs] 568 00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:46,076 ♪♪ 569 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,836 Could you look at camera, please? 570 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:51,461 Like this. That's great. -[Speaking Korean] 571 00:31:51,564 --> 00:31:54,257 [Camera shutter clicks] 572 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,879 Beautiful. 573 00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:58,330 [Camera shutter clicks] 574 00:31:58,433 --> 00:32:03,576 ♪♪ 575 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,613 Shih: That's okay. Don't be nervous. 576 00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:09,168 ♪♪ 577 00:32:09,272 --> 00:32:10,652 [Camera shutter clicks] 578 00:32:10,756 --> 00:32:14,760 ♪♪ 579 00:32:30,741 --> 00:32:32,674 You live your family? 580 00:32:32,778 --> 00:32:34,021 Yeah, I live with my family. 581 00:32:34,124 --> 00:32:36,747 -Okay. -That's better. 582 00:32:36,851 --> 00:32:40,682 When I was your age, I came to Beijing. 583 00:32:40,786 --> 00:32:43,823 I used to live myself because my parents, 584 00:32:43,927 --> 00:32:45,894 they were in another city. 585 00:32:45,998 --> 00:32:51,038 I mean, if you have boyfriend or girlfriend, life will change. 586 00:32:51,141 --> 00:32:54,869 It will feel much better. -Yeah, definitely. 587 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:57,699 They also say when you get married, you know, life change. 588 00:32:57,803 --> 00:32:59,460 Marriage is, kind of, 589 00:32:59,563 --> 00:33:04,534 we call it the most important thing in life. 590 00:33:04,637 --> 00:33:08,814 Yeah. Yesterday, I saw two boys walking. 591 00:33:08,917 --> 00:33:11,196 They're not young, they're 18 years old, like, hand-in-hand. 592 00:33:11,299 --> 00:33:14,406 Also, like... 593 00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:17,547 you know, in the West, they look like a gay couple. 594 00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,791 You know. 595 00:33:20,895 --> 00:33:23,760 Do you think there is any gay here in North Korea? 596 00:33:23,863 --> 00:33:25,520 No? 597 00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:28,454 You know, I think this gay thing 598 00:33:28,558 --> 00:33:30,836 and all these lesbian things 599 00:33:30,939 --> 00:33:34,150 are, kind of, production of capitalist system. 600 00:33:34,253 --> 00:33:36,635 Exactly. Yeah. 601 00:33:36,738 --> 00:33:38,085 Yeah. 602 00:33:38,188 --> 00:33:40,501 We educate people the only good things, 603 00:33:40,604 --> 00:33:45,609 so they can't even imagine about this gay or lesbian 604 00:33:45,713 --> 00:33:47,232 or something like that, you know. 605 00:33:47,335 --> 00:33:49,924 They just walk hand-in-hand because they are friends. 606 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,167 I know. I understand. 607 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:54,308 I'm from the same kind of political system. 608 00:33:54,411 --> 00:33:58,105 But in China now, you know, gay, it's not illegal. 609 00:33:58,208 --> 00:34:00,590 You can't get married, but there are some gay scenes. 610 00:34:00,693 --> 00:34:03,110 Gay bar. Yeah. 611 00:34:03,213 --> 00:34:04,697 China change like other country. 612 00:34:04,801 --> 00:34:06,354 Not your country, yeah. 613 00:34:09,978 --> 00:34:11,601 So, what's your next dream? 614 00:34:11,704 --> 00:34:13,430 -My next dream? -Yeah. 615 00:34:14,569 --> 00:34:16,813 [Chuckles] 616 00:34:16,916 --> 00:34:18,815 To have a nice apartment? 617 00:34:18,918 --> 00:34:21,231 No. 618 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:23,199 In our country, if you ask about dream, 619 00:34:23,302 --> 00:34:25,201 it's not about material things. 620 00:34:25,304 --> 00:34:26,305 It's about, you know... 621 00:34:26,409 --> 00:34:28,514 Oh. Yeah. 622 00:34:28,618 --> 00:34:32,139 The wisdom of -- dream for your destiny. 623 00:34:32,242 --> 00:34:35,694 Yeah, we Chinese have changed to another kind of person, 624 00:34:35,797 --> 00:34:37,834 you know. 625 00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:40,561 Some kind of bad person. 626 00:34:40,664 --> 00:34:43,253 A lot of young Chinese, when they're talking about dreams, 627 00:34:43,357 --> 00:34:46,325 they're always about, you know, "I want to be a boss. 628 00:34:46,429 --> 00:34:50,226 I want a new apartment. I want a new car." Like this. 629 00:34:51,434 --> 00:34:56,232 Nobody talking about, you know, your kind of dream. 630 00:34:56,335 --> 00:34:57,957 My dream. 631 00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:05,724 My dream would be... 632 00:35:05,827 --> 00:35:10,832 to become very... 633 00:35:10,936 --> 00:35:13,490 just a simple dream that... 634 00:35:13,594 --> 00:35:17,356 My dream would be to become, you know, 635 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:22,154 a person which my name would be remembered 636 00:35:22,258 --> 00:35:24,018 by the next generation. 637 00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,295 Mm! 638 00:35:25,399 --> 00:35:26,434 Do you understand what I mean? 639 00:35:26,538 --> 00:35:28,022 Yeah. 640 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,269 I feel time here is very slow 641 00:35:33,372 --> 00:35:35,788 and very good. 642 00:35:37,618 --> 00:35:39,965 And the air is very fresh. 643 00:35:44,003 --> 00:35:50,424 ♪♪ 644 00:35:50,527 --> 00:35:56,982 ♪♪ 645 00:35:57,085 --> 00:36:03,506 ♪♪ 646 00:36:03,609 --> 00:36:10,029 ♪♪ 647 00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:16,588 ♪♪ 648 00:36:16,691 --> 00:36:23,111 ♪♪ 649 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:29,670 ♪♪ 650 00:36:29,773 --> 00:36:36,297 ♪♪ 651 00:36:39,956 --> 00:36:43,235 We are really proud of having a great leader. 652 00:36:43,339 --> 00:36:47,135 We consider ourselves very lucky. 653 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,138 Even if the foreign people don't understand it. 654 00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:51,761 What do you feel? 655 00:36:51,864 --> 00:36:55,454 What thoughts or emotions do you feel when you see him? 656 00:36:55,558 --> 00:36:59,803 I feel absolute happiness and honor. 657 00:36:59,907 --> 00:37:02,150 Give me more than that. Expand on that for me. 658 00:37:02,254 --> 00:37:05,326 It's what you feel when you meet a great person, 659 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:07,294 like a great man. 660 00:37:09,468 --> 00:37:12,954 Have you ever wept in awe? 661 00:37:13,058 --> 00:37:14,232 Yes, of course. 662 00:37:14,335 --> 00:37:15,474 Mm-hmm. 663 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,720 I can't forget being sad the moment 664 00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:22,826 when our glorious Kim Jong-il passed away. 665 00:37:24,759 --> 00:37:27,417 Yeah. 666 00:37:33,596 --> 00:37:35,287 Sorry, I didn't mean -- -This is one of -- 667 00:37:35,391 --> 00:37:36,806 No, no, it's alright. 668 00:37:36,909 --> 00:37:42,398 This is one of the power source... 669 00:37:42,501 --> 00:37:45,608 that the foreign... don't understand. 670 00:37:45,711 --> 00:37:47,955 You're right, we don't understand. 671 00:37:48,058 --> 00:37:50,302 -This unity. -Yeah. 672 00:37:50,406 --> 00:37:51,614 This mood. 673 00:37:51,717 --> 00:37:55,307 This kind of philosophy. Spirit. 674 00:37:55,411 --> 00:37:57,930 We consider it to be the most powerful weapon 675 00:37:58,034 --> 00:38:02,521 for our nation, which is unique to our nation. 676 00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:07,423 No, it's true. You have a unity that we don't have. 677 00:38:12,462 --> 00:38:16,466 Narrator: With political tensions already running high, 678 00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:19,676 North Korea taunts the world. 679 00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:22,990 They detonate their first hydrogen bomb 680 00:38:23,093 --> 00:38:25,958 just north of Pyongyang. 681 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,342 [Birds chirping] 682 00:38:35,623 --> 00:38:37,729 Traavik: Did you notice the ground? 683 00:38:37,832 --> 00:38:40,939 My bed was shaking and it felt like a small earthquake. 684 00:38:41,042 --> 00:38:44,287 And the light posts outside were vibrating. 685 00:38:44,391 --> 00:38:46,185 -Oy, oy, oy. -Yeah. 686 00:38:46,289 --> 00:38:49,568 Well, let's go out there now, and I'll put my laptop up. 687 00:38:49,672 --> 00:38:51,190 Please. 688 00:38:51,294 --> 00:38:53,400 [Indistinct conversations] 689 00:38:53,503 --> 00:38:57,127 "North Korea underground nuclear test feared." 690 00:38:57,231 --> 00:38:59,475 South Korea calls national security meeting 691 00:38:59,578 --> 00:39:02,029 after earthquake of magnitude 6.3 692 00:39:02,132 --> 00:39:04,859 detected near a North Korean testing area. 693 00:39:04,963 --> 00:39:08,380 Did you notice the earthquake that was at 12:00? 694 00:39:08,484 --> 00:39:10,451 Boyd: They don't know yet. Tell them. 695 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:14,731 In the world news right now is that your country 696 00:39:14,835 --> 00:39:19,149 has conducted another nuclear test 697 00:39:19,253 --> 00:39:21,945 and that there will be a press conference. 698 00:39:22,049 --> 00:39:26,329 We very strongly request that we can see this press conference. 699 00:39:28,124 --> 00:39:33,888 ♪♪ 700 00:39:33,992 --> 00:39:39,756 ♪♪ 701 00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:45,659 ♪♪ 702 00:39:45,762 --> 00:39:48,420 [Applause] 703 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:55,289 [Speaking Korean] 704 00:40:15,585 --> 00:40:19,417 [Applause] 705 00:40:24,629 --> 00:40:26,838 Why were you applauding? 706 00:40:26,941 --> 00:40:29,841 -The successful test. -Of the nuclear bomb? 707 00:40:29,944 --> 00:40:32,015 -Yeah, yeah. -H-bomb. 708 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,296 ♪♪ 709 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,543 ♪♪ 710 00:40:42,647 --> 00:40:48,446 ♪♪ 711 00:40:48,549 --> 00:40:52,104 Did she say anything where it was? Do you know? 712 00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:56,730 I just spoke to her and they are fully armed. 713 00:40:56,833 --> 00:40:58,835 Mm-hmm. 714 00:40:58,939 --> 00:41:01,631 I mean, we are one of the world powers now 715 00:41:01,735 --> 00:41:02,977 which the U.S. -- 716 00:41:03,081 --> 00:41:04,945 You are one of the world's... 717 00:41:05,048 --> 00:41:07,706 ...most powerful country with the most powerful weapon 718 00:41:07,810 --> 00:41:11,538 which the U.S. should be very well aware of. 719 00:41:11,641 --> 00:41:14,989 So they should be careful about what they speak to us now. 720 00:41:17,233 --> 00:41:18,993 Wow. You're very brave saying that, Mr. Ham, 721 00:41:19,097 --> 00:41:22,065 because my fear is that America 722 00:41:22,169 --> 00:41:24,516 will wipe out this country in seconds. 723 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:27,174 You know, the provocations by Trump, 724 00:41:27,277 --> 00:41:31,040 what kind of aggressive words 725 00:41:31,143 --> 00:41:33,249 addressed to us and coming out. 726 00:41:33,352 --> 00:41:36,804 We have to defend our sovereignty, our identity. 727 00:41:36,908 --> 00:41:38,737 I mean, this is serious, you know. 728 00:41:38,841 --> 00:41:41,084 Your leader is a very powerful man 729 00:41:41,188 --> 00:41:42,465 and is very strong-minded 730 00:41:42,569 --> 00:41:46,504 and we have another man in the West 731 00:41:46,607 --> 00:41:49,817 who is equally as crazy at hitting the button. 732 00:41:49,921 --> 00:41:51,681 They are both obsessed with hitting the button. 733 00:41:51,785 --> 00:41:53,200 So, the choice depends on him. 734 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:55,892 He hits the button, he is to blame, not us. 735 00:41:55,996 --> 00:41:57,273 I know, but we'll all be gone. 736 00:41:57,376 --> 00:41:58,895 Poof! We won't even know. 737 00:41:58,999 --> 00:42:00,310 But it's because of him, not because of us. 738 00:42:00,414 --> 00:42:01,415 No, no, no. 739 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,244 We are living under these sanctions 740 00:42:03,348 --> 00:42:05,039 and everything for so many years. 741 00:42:05,143 --> 00:42:06,558 We have nothing more to give. 742 00:42:06,662 --> 00:42:09,354 Do you know initially who divided your country? 743 00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:11,011 Who divided North and South Korea? 744 00:42:11,114 --> 00:42:13,910 -It's the U.S. -Yeah, exactly. 745 00:42:14,014 --> 00:42:16,188 That's the shame. 746 00:42:16,292 --> 00:42:18,259 They divided you in the first place. 747 00:42:18,363 --> 00:42:21,090 They made this nation two, which you should not be. 748 00:42:21,193 --> 00:42:23,161 You know, being someone from Ireland, 749 00:42:23,264 --> 00:42:24,749 I have a country that's divided. 750 00:42:24,852 --> 00:42:26,992 I hate this. Our countries should not be divided. 751 00:42:27,096 --> 00:42:29,650 Ireland should be one. Yes, exactly the same. 752 00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:31,721 You know, it should not be two -- 753 00:42:31,825 --> 00:42:33,620 -One nation. -It should not be divided. 754 00:42:33,723 --> 00:42:34,828 Yeah. 755 00:42:34,931 --> 00:42:37,934 So, yeah. I just popped a Xanax. 756 00:42:38,038 --> 00:42:41,766 I'm waiting for it to kick in 757 00:42:41,869 --> 00:42:44,251 and we'll see what happens, basically. 758 00:42:46,736 --> 00:42:49,636 But yeah, it seems that we are in for some...now, so... 759 00:42:49,739 --> 00:42:54,123 ♪♪ 760 00:42:54,226 --> 00:42:59,300 ♪♪ 761 00:42:59,404 --> 00:43:00,992 Sorry, I'm just curious. 762 00:43:01,095 --> 00:43:04,547 There was a test which you may know about. 763 00:43:04,651 --> 00:43:06,204 You know? We had the H-bomb test? 764 00:43:06,307 --> 00:43:08,931 Did you feel the shaking in the tower? 765 00:43:09,034 --> 00:43:10,173 No. 766 00:43:10,277 --> 00:43:12,728 What was your view of the test? 767 00:43:12,831 --> 00:43:14,971 I am feeling very proud of that 768 00:43:15,075 --> 00:43:18,837 because I'm a citizen of a great population. 769 00:43:18,941 --> 00:43:21,737 Yeah, that's my opinion. 770 00:43:23,877 --> 00:43:27,432 No more weak country we are. 771 00:43:32,955 --> 00:43:36,441 We have a good view on the end of mankind here. 772 00:43:38,892 --> 00:43:40,376 What a beautiful day. 773 00:43:40,479 --> 00:43:45,001 ♪♪ 774 00:43:45,105 --> 00:43:49,661 ♪♪ 775 00:43:49,765 --> 00:43:54,252 ♪♪ 776 00:43:54,355 --> 00:43:58,912 ♪♪ 777 00:43:59,015 --> 00:44:00,707 Pres. Donald Trump: Rocket Man 778 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:04,745 is on a suicide mission for himself 779 00:44:04,849 --> 00:44:06,574 and for his regime. 780 00:44:06,678 --> 00:44:12,753 ♪♪ 781 00:44:12,857 --> 00:44:15,929 Now, North Korea's reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons 782 00:44:16,032 --> 00:44:21,451 threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life. 783 00:44:21,555 --> 00:44:24,765 ♪♪ 784 00:44:24,869 --> 00:44:28,769 The United States has great strength and patience, 785 00:44:28,873 --> 00:44:32,290 but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, 786 00:44:32,393 --> 00:44:34,292 we will have no choice 787 00:44:34,395 --> 00:44:38,123 but to totally destroy North Korea. 788 00:45:02,182 --> 00:45:03,873 Oh. 789 00:45:03,977 --> 00:45:06,600 I'm tired. 790 00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:11,087 ♪♪ 791 00:45:11,191 --> 00:45:16,334 ♪♪ 792 00:45:16,437 --> 00:45:21,166 Narrator: While the world worries about a potential nuclear war, 793 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:24,307 the artists are ready for the conclusion 794 00:45:24,411 --> 00:45:26,551 of a cultural stand-off. 795 00:45:26,654 --> 00:45:28,311 -Nice to meet you. -Hi. 796 00:45:28,415 --> 00:45:30,348 Hi! 797 00:45:30,451 --> 00:45:32,626 [Both chuckle] 798 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:38,839 ♪♪ 799 00:45:38,943 --> 00:45:45,259 It is my great pleasure to see all of us gathered here at last. 800 00:45:45,363 --> 00:45:52,301 Many of us have to overcome our own fears to be able to meet. 801 00:45:52,404 --> 00:45:57,789 We also feel that it is a very, very important time 802 00:45:57,893 --> 00:46:03,139 to visit the DPRK now that the tensions are so high. 803 00:46:04,209 --> 00:46:06,280 [ Applause ] 804 00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:11,976 So, good morning, everyone. My name is Jean. 805 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,980 I come from Paris and I'm a visual artist and designer. 806 00:46:16,083 --> 00:46:19,362 So, the name of this project is called "Single Heart Unity." 807 00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:21,951 I took photography of someone walking -- 808 00:46:22,055 --> 00:46:23,573 tac, tac, tac, tac, tac -- 809 00:46:23,677 --> 00:46:28,682 and then I duplicated those people to make this crowd. 810 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:32,582 It's a group made out of one single heart. 811 00:46:38,105 --> 00:46:40,970 [Conversing in Korean] 812 00:46:41,074 --> 00:46:45,181 I wish you to produce more of this kind of artworks. 813 00:46:45,285 --> 00:46:46,700 -Thank you very much. -Yeah. 814 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,151 This is reflecting the... 815 00:46:49,254 --> 00:46:53,465 [Conversing in Korean] 816 00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:55,433 [Laughter] 817 00:46:55,536 --> 00:46:58,298 [Applause] 818 00:46:58,401 --> 00:47:00,990 Ah, no, no, no, no. 819 00:47:01,094 --> 00:47:03,372 -I tried. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 820 00:47:03,475 --> 00:47:05,132 I'm an independent artist. 821 00:47:05,236 --> 00:47:07,238 That means I'm a freelancer. 822 00:47:07,341 --> 00:47:12,484 So I make a living by doing commercial job 823 00:47:12,588 --> 00:47:16,074 and also I can selling my work in gallery. 824 00:47:16,178 --> 00:47:19,215 Light and color is my weapon. 825 00:47:19,319 --> 00:47:22,011 It's all about the light. 826 00:47:28,155 --> 00:47:29,847 [ Applause ] 827 00:47:29,950 --> 00:47:31,987 Thank you. 828 00:47:33,298 --> 00:47:35,680 Thank you. -Yeah, yeah. 829 00:47:35,783 --> 00:47:38,234 -Is this your own works? -Yeah, yeah. 830 00:47:38,338 --> 00:47:40,167 It's all my paintings. -It's oil painting? 831 00:47:40,271 --> 00:47:42,860 Yeah, all of them are oil painting, yeah. 832 00:47:42,963 --> 00:47:44,447 Ah. 833 00:47:44,551 --> 00:47:45,621 Very nice. 834 00:47:45,724 --> 00:47:46,967 Thank you. 835 00:47:58,047 --> 00:47:59,462 [Feedback] 836 00:48:07,781 --> 00:48:11,681 [Warbles and chirps] 837 00:48:24,936 --> 00:48:27,042 Nowak: At least, like, talking to each other, 838 00:48:27,145 --> 00:48:31,632 looking at each other's eyes, there was a exchange. 839 00:48:31,736 --> 00:48:34,394 [Noises continue] 840 00:48:34,497 --> 00:48:38,156 The artists themselves, they're friendly. 841 00:48:38,260 --> 00:48:40,296 It's also not clear what they really think 842 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,506 about their own regime. 843 00:48:43,610 --> 00:48:46,233 Boyd: I would have liked to have heard more from them, 844 00:48:46,337 --> 00:48:49,788 to talk more about their work, 845 00:48:49,892 --> 00:48:53,033 but I'm not sure they have the language yet here. 846 00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:56,278 So, of course, we are living in a different country, 847 00:48:56,381 --> 00:48:58,452 different culture. 848 00:48:58,556 --> 00:49:00,247 But all I can understand, 849 00:49:00,351 --> 00:49:04,872 we are living in the same world of art. 850 00:49:04,976 --> 00:49:08,531 [Applause] 851 00:49:08,635 --> 00:49:12,156 Traavik: It was not like a huge lecture in a stadium, 852 00:49:12,259 --> 00:49:14,158 but still, I mean, we had an exchange. 853 00:49:14,261 --> 00:49:16,574 A real one. 854 00:49:16,677 --> 00:49:19,784 So, what is, "See you again," in Korean? 855 00:49:19,887 --> 00:49:21,234 [Speaking Korean] 856 00:49:21,337 --> 00:49:23,822 [Speaking Korean] Yeah? 857 00:49:23,926 --> 00:49:25,997 [Applause] 858 00:49:32,555 --> 00:49:34,902 Narrator: After a week where both sides 859 00:49:35,006 --> 00:49:38,320 might feel they sacrificed too much, 860 00:49:38,423 --> 00:49:43,946 the artists are ready to return to the outside world. 861 00:49:46,742 --> 00:49:48,744 Traavik: I'm not really prepared 862 00:49:48,847 --> 00:49:53,611 to settle the accounts yet 863 00:49:53,714 --> 00:49:57,753 because I still think it's too early to say. 864 00:49:57,856 --> 00:50:01,205 Maybe one day, 20, 30 years from now, 865 00:50:01,308 --> 00:50:05,312 then we can assess what it meant or not. 866 00:50:08,315 --> 00:50:10,214 Nowak: It's very strange for me now 867 00:50:10,317 --> 00:50:14,666 because the situation is so tense. 868 00:50:14,770 --> 00:50:17,945 But I hope it's just the beginning of something. 869 00:50:22,191 --> 00:50:25,160 Valnoir: You cannot convert the North Koreans. 870 00:50:25,263 --> 00:50:29,854 They would rather die than bending to show their ass. 871 00:50:29,957 --> 00:50:33,513 So this I admire. I mean, they show balls. 872 00:50:36,102 --> 00:50:38,794 Nowak: It's a totalitarian, fascist regime 873 00:50:38,897 --> 00:50:42,832 and I've experienced it. 874 00:50:42,936 --> 00:50:46,560 Still, I would hope to meet some of the people we met here 875 00:50:46,664 --> 00:50:52,739 in 25 years when maybe circumstances have changed. 876 00:50:52,842 --> 00:50:56,087 Shih: I know that the country is very deep. 877 00:50:56,191 --> 00:50:59,573 We're just living on the surface. 878 00:50:59,677 --> 00:51:01,368 If the country will open, 879 00:51:01,472 --> 00:51:03,301 I think they will change rapidly. 880 00:51:05,786 --> 00:51:09,825 Reporter: Historic statements coming from North Korea right now. 881 00:51:09,928 --> 00:51:13,484 Reporter #2: President Trump has now agreed to meet North Korean leader... 882 00:51:13,587 --> 00:51:16,038 Pres. Donald Trump: Most importantly, I want to thank Chairman Kim 883 00:51:16,142 --> 00:51:19,524 for taking the first bold step, 884 00:51:19,628 --> 00:51:24,805 and we're ready to write a new chapter between our nations. 885 00:51:24,909 --> 00:51:27,981 Kim has the chance to seize an incredible future 886 00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:29,327 for his people. 887 00:51:29,431 --> 00:51:31,088 [Applause] 888 00:51:31,191 --> 00:51:34,643 So you never know, right? 889 00:51:34,746 --> 00:51:37,611 Boyd: Why do you give up on anything? 890 00:51:37,715 --> 00:51:42,375 If you never work with countries which are in a difficult regime, 891 00:51:42,478 --> 00:51:44,101 how will they ever change? 892 00:51:46,275 --> 00:51:51,694 And if a country is as shut off as North Korea, 893 00:51:51,798 --> 00:51:53,351 what do we expect? 894 00:51:53,455 --> 00:51:56,768 ♪♪ 895 00:51:56,872 --> 00:52:00,082 [Vocalizing] 896 00:52:00,186 --> 00:52:07,054 ♪♪ 897 00:52:07,158 --> 00:52:14,165 ♪♪ 60046

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