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Narrator:
Tonight on beyond oak island...

We're talking about
the lost dutchman mine.

Isn't there a curse
associated with it?

People have gone looking
for this, but not come back.

Wayne tuttle:
Jacob waltz was an immigrant.
He located

what's known now
as the lost dutchman mine.

Josh feldman:
History, technology

and geology.

That's what gets you
to where the dutchman mine

actually is located.

You really have put
an x on the map.

My theory is
it's right over here.

Are you kidding me, man?

Is that gold?

All the while
we were growing up,

my brother and I
were fascinated

with finding treasure.

Rick:
Pirate treasure,

cursed treasure.

Civil war gold.

- -since then,
our work on oak island

has shown us
there's a world of mysteries...

-Whoa.
-...Waiting to be explored.

Rick:
So, we like to reach out
to other treasure hunters.

X marks the spot, right there.
Brilliant.

-Marty: We want to hear
their stories...
-That's right.

-...And share our insights.
-"ill-gotten gains."

-rick: And who knows...
-Gary: I got it.

...Maybe we can help them
with their search.

Marty:
Not only in america.

Wow. That is gold.

-Rick: But all over the worl.
-Yeah!

Marty:
Beyond oak island.

Marty: Curses often seem
to go with treasure.

As rick has observed at times,
maybe that's--

people who have failed, maybe
they want to put a curse on it.

-Yeah.
-So, you know what, it's cursed.
I can't do it.

You know?
Although it happens so often,

going clear back to king tut's
tomb, and all these other tombs

-that it's-it's just
an interesting phenomenon.
-Yeah.

-Gentlemen.
-Hey, matty blake.
-Matty.

Hey, guys. Hey, mate.

-Thank you for coming.
-Hey, mate.

Gary:
How you doing, mate?

Good. What do we have
going on today?

I think some really,
really interesting stuff.

-All right.
-Yeah, 'cause I just got back

from one of the most iconic
treasure sites on the planet.

-Where?
-Superstition mountains, mate.

I've always wanted
to go there.

The-the lost dutchman mine,
right?
-Yep, you got it, mate.

Matty:
That mystery is so unique

because you don't know
what's real and what's not

-and what's fable.
-Rick: It's hard to figure out.

And that's certainly why they
call it the lost dutchman mine.

It's been lost to history.
So I understand

why it's so confusing
and contradictory.

I think there's a lot
of work to do

to try to puzzle this out,
and that's why

the mystery has endured for,
what, almost a century now.

Gary, how'd you get involved,
and who did you work with?

I got contacted by a guy
called bob schoose.

And he's been out in
apache junction, arizona.

And bob was adamant that
he knew where the treasure was.

And when I got to
apache junction,

I found there was other families

who had other opinions
of where they thought

the lost dutchman mine is.

So are there multiple locations
where the mine could be?

-Yeah. That's what
it's all about.
-Is that what you're suggesting?

It's kind of like
a familiar story.

Matty:
Kind of like oak island
a little bit.

-Absolutely.
-Yeah, that does sound
like oak island.

A lot of parallels.
I wonder if all treasure stories

-evolve into something
resembling oak island.
-Also like oak island,

isn't there a curse
associated with it?

Yeah, there is.

Marty:
Do we really know
that people died?

I mean, at oak island,
we know that six people died.

It's documented.
Do we know people have died

looking for this,
or is that just rumor?

No, it's well documented.

I mean, we're talking about
the wild west.

But even in the modern era,

in terms of modern searches,

people have gone looking
for this and not come back.

It's a wilderness out there.
I mean, it's rough terrain.

You got rattlesnakes,
intense heat,

-the mountains themselves.
-Yeah, just getting lost.

And the local apache indians,
they say

-the land is cursed.
-And it begs the question,

as many of these stories do,

here's the gold;
it could be right here.

Here's the potential danger.

What are you willing to risk?

-Yeah. Good way to put it.
-Right?

Narrator:
High above the arizona deser,

50 miles east of phoenix
loom the superstition mountains.

According to legend,
these massive granite peaks

conceal one of the richest
gold mines ever found

and lost in america:

The lost dutchman mine.

For more than a century,
prospectors have been

searching in vain
for this vast hidden treasur.

Their journey into
the superstitions

has often been fraught
with danger, disaster and death.

For, according to legend,

the lost dutchman mine
is cursed.

Bob schoose:
In the superstition mountain,

there's been several
unexplained deaths.

There was two beheadings
that I know of.

Josh:
It is true that many people have
lost their lives

in the superstitions.

And in mysterious ways.

There's unsolved murders
out there;

people that just didn't
come back.

And that's happened over the
past hundred and some years.

Ron feldman:
A lot of people say that the
mountain has a curse on it,

and it was probably developed
from the fact that

there were so many people lot
their lives looking for it.

So, you know, you go back there
and you don't come out,

you're kind of cursed,
aren't you?

Narrator:
The story of the
lost dutchman mine began

with the peraltas,
a family of spanish prospectors

who were searching for gold
back in the 1840s.

According to legend, they found
some very rich deposits

in the superstition mountains.

Andrew patrick nelson:
To many miners

looking for treasure
in the american southwest,

particularly in
modern-day arizona,

the apaches were a real threat.

The apaches, seeing that
the peralta family

was getting ready to take
all the gold

that they had secured so far,

decided to lay a trap for them.

And from what I understand,
they killed everyone

except for one little boy
who was hiding in a bush

not too far away.

They spared him,

and he is the one
that was the eyewitness

that told the entire story.

Narrator:
It is believed that
after the massacre,

the apaches buried
the peraltas' gold,

then covered up the mine
in an effort to restore

the land to its natural state.

Teton ken eddy:
Now, the apaches consider
that mountain sacred.

And, of course, they put a curse
on any anglo

who'd tread on their mountain.

Narrator:
At the end of the
mexican-american war,

20 years after the
peralta family was ambushed

in the superstition mountains,

mexico ceded much of arizona
to the united states.

Hundreds of prospectors
immediately descended

upon the area,
hoping to strike it rich.

One of those men was an
immigrant turned citizen

named jacob waltz.

Tuttle:
Jacob waltz was an immigrant
to the united states

from wardenburg, germany.

Followed the gold trails
into california.

And when he'd come into arizona,
sometime between 1865, 1868,

we believe he located
what's known now

as the lost dutchman mine.

Ron:
The dutchman mine was

more than likely
one of the peralta mines.

Jacob waltz probably
went in there

and chipped out some very rih
pockets of gold.

And the story about the
dutchman mine grew and grew.

But it's a misnomer because
when german immigrants

came to america,
they were called deutch,

which is german... Deutchman.

So deutschman just got
mistaken for dutchman.

Jesse feldman:
During that era,
you were supposed to tell

everybody else where
your rich mine was.

Jacob waltz didn't do
any of that.

He kept his mine a secret.

And they really
did not like that.

And people had followed him
through the 1870s

to try to find out where
his mine was.

Schoose:
If he thought he was
being followed,

he just kept right on going
into the mountains

and took 'em on a merry chase.

That's-that's common knowledge.

Narrator:
To this day, no one knows whee

jacob waltz's mine was located

or how much gold
he had collected.

But one thing is certain:

The treasure made him
a very wealthy man.

He has no money, has nothing.

But within the next year or so,
waltz builds an adobe house,

builds out buildings,

he has geese, he has ducks,
he's farming.

He's doing quite well.

One of the oral histories
we have is that waltz

actually had a locking door

and locking shutters
on his windows,

which is unusual for that time.

Narrator:
According to researchers,

jacob waltz had a good reason
for closely guarding

the location of his mine,

as it was there that
he claimed he had discovered

hundreds of pounds
of rich gold ore.

The description we get
from the mine from jacob waltz

is it's, um,
popcorn kernels of gold

running through quartz
locked in hematite.

He's saying it's worth hundreds
of millions of dollars of gold.

Well, the price of gold at that
point, what would that be now?

Billions? Trillions?

Probably more than anything
he could have imagined.

Narrator:
In the decades

following
his incredible discovery,

jacob waltz remained
an intensely private man.

Although he was known
to have very few friends,

there were
some notable exceptions.

He made friends
with a woman named julia thomas.

She was one-eighth black.

Her mother had been a slave,

but she was raised in
a household that speaks germa.

Ron:
Julia thomas lived in phoeni,

close to where the dutchman was.

She ran a bakery.

Supposedly, she had
a lot of money problems,

and jacob waltz helped her.

Narrator:
In February of 1891,

when a flood washed away
jacob waltz's home,

julia thomas returned
his kindness.

She invited him to live
with her and her roommate,

a german-speaking immigrant
named rhinehart petrasch.

Tuttle:
So, waltz has friends
that all speak german,

and this is probably important,
'cause while we know

he probably spoke english,
we don't know how comfortable

it would have been for him
at the time.

Narrator:
As with most
of the circumstances

surrounding his life,
those involving his death

remain shrouded in mystery.

- -in October of 1891,

as jacob waltz lay
on his deathbed,

gasping for breath,
most likely from pneumonia,

julia thomas ran for a doctor,

leaving
the octogenarian prospector

in the company
of an acquaintance

by the name of dick holmes.

When she returned,
waltz was dead,

and dick holmes had vanished,

along with an item
of extraordinary value.

Ron:
When jacob waltz died,

he had 48 pounds
of very rich gold ore

in a candle box under his bed.

Do the math.
And that was back then.

Think what it's worth today.

Gold was $16 an ounce then.

It's $1,600 an ounce today.

Narrator:
Did waltz give the box
of gold ore to dick holmes

in the moments before his death,

or was it stolen?

And did waltz ever disclose,
either to holmes

or julia thomas or their friend
rhinehart petrasch,

the actual location
of the lost dutchman mine?

These are among the questions

that have kept researchers
and treasure hunters guessing

for more than a century.

Josh:
What fascinates me most

about the lost dutchman mine
is just

that there is gold ore

that came from jacob waltz.

And the question is
where did it come from?

And nobody has been able
to answer that yet.

Gary: I got to meet
some of the guys who've been

a big part of the treasure hunt
in recent years.

These people move
from other places in america.

They go apache junction,
and they do not leave.

-Looking for this mine?
-Gary: Yeah.

Looking for
the lost dutchman mine.

And, so,
when I first went there,

I'm like, well, you know,

how do you
sort through the big jumble?

You know, who's right?

And I had my own opinions,
as well.

One of these dutch hunters
took me into the foothills

of where he believes,

the lost dutchman mine is.

-What did you discover?
-Gary: Well, I discovered

that when you send me out
to the wild west

looking for gold,
I don't come back empty-handed.

- Okay.

: One week prior
to his meeting with matty blake

and the laginas
in the oak island war room,

metal detection expert
gary drayton was on a mission

to track down the location

of the legendary
lost dutchman mine.

His first stop was to meet up

with legendary treasure huntr
bob schoose,

who invited gary out

to share his extensive research
on the mine,

research that has made bob

one of the world's
leading experts.

Gary:
All right, bob, where are we?

Schoose:
You're at goldfield, arizona.

Gold was discovered here
in the 1890s,

early 1890s.

Is this one of the reasons
why jacob waltz

came to this area?

Jacob waltz came
long before goldfield was here.

He was probably one of the first
to find gold in the area

besides maybe the spaniards
and the mexicans.

Narrator:
Goldfield, arizona

sits beneath
the western outreaches

of the superstition mountains,

where most dutchman hunters

believe the lost mine
will be found.

Bob schoose has been searchig
for more than 50 years.

It's a passion that dates bak
to his childhood.

Watching all the western movies
when I was a kid,

there was always spanish mines
and spanish treasure.

As soon as I got
my driver's license,

we headed for the desert

so we could go out
and look for stuff.

Why did you choose this area?

With all of the studying I did
about the lost dutchman mine,

this is the area that they found
the gold in, and,

it chose me.
Let's put it that way.

And I've got to ask
the million-dollar question,

- mate. In your opinion...

-I knew you'd
get around to this.
-Where do you

think the lost dutchman mine is?

Well, my theory is
it's right over here.

Wait a minute,
you know where it is?

Yeah, that's my theory.
There's about a hundred of 'em.

-Yeah.
-I'm all eyes, mate.

You can see it from down here.

Right out there,
just to the right

of that funny-shaped peak,
that's the bulldog.

Narrator:
For many treasure hunters,

the bulldog gold mine
fit the description

of jacob waltz's
lost dutchman mine.

One account even had waltz
telling his friend julia thomas,

"look for the mine back
from the northwest end

"of the superstition mountains

and look for a pointed peak."

unfortunately, in 2003,

the mine was deemed
a safety hazard

and completely filled in.

Still,
prospectors like bob schoose

remain tight-lipped
about what treasures

the bulldog mine has yielded.

Did you find gold
over there yourself?

- I wouldn't tell you if I did.

you are one wily,
old treasure hunter, mate.

--so, when did you get
the feeling

that that was
the lost dutchman gold mine?

Well, after years
of looking over there,

in them mountains over there,
and not finding a trace,

you know,
you just go along, go along,

and you learn
more and more stuff

about the real facts
of the matter.

So, do you think there's
more gold in the area still?

Absolutely. There's got to be
some other plumes

that came up
associated with these veins.

But knowing where
to look for 'em

is a whole different thing.

All right, bob, all this talk

has got me toes tingling, mate.

--any chance

of going out
and looking for gold?

-Let's go look.
-All right, mate.
Let's go for it.

Narrator:
With the bulldog gold mine
officially off-limits,

bob takes gary to an open area

at the base of the mountains
just outside of goldfield.

He is convinced that gold
may still be found here

in the flatlands.

Well, this is the wash.

This is where all the floodwater
comes through.

Whenever it floods,
it brings the gold down

with the sand and gravels
that get hung in the crevice.

We'll have to dig
a few crevices,

see if you can find some color.

Gary:
When I'm walking
down to the wash

with bob schoose
looking for gold,

I'm as happy as a pig
in the proverbial.

I want that piece
of superstition gold.

Schoose:
This looks like a good one here.

It's going the right way.

Yeah, it's coming
from a different direction.

Yeah, that-that water flows
this way and creates the eddy

to collect the material
in the crack.

So, there could be some gold
in here, mate.

It's a possibility.

All right, mate,
I'm ready to get stuck in.

This thing
ain't gonna do you no good

unless that picks up flour gold.

-Flour gold?
-Yeah, flour gold.

-So it's small.
-Real fine.

-Like flakes.
-If there's a whole bunch of it,

it could go off,
but if it's, you know, normal,

it's gonna be
scattered pretty good.

Yeah, 'cause I can't detect
anything less

- than a grain of rice size.
-Yeah.

-That won't do no good.
-Okay.

Got to put the detector down.

So, what are we gonna do?
Are we gonna

-dig this out? 'cause
I brought my little trowel.
-Yeah.

We'll clean that crack out
as much as we can.

Get as much material as we can,
and we'll check it.

Okay, then I'll start
digging it out for you.

Keep expecting a gold nugget

to come out
of one of these cracks.

Schoose:
That'd be nice.

-I'm surprised
that thing's going that deep.
-Ooh.

I keep seeing shiny things.

-Yeah, you know what
you're seeing there, don't you?
-Yeah.

Fool's gold? Iron pyrite?

It's, "lyverite."

what,
leave it right in the ground

- 'cause it's not what
we're looking for?
-yeah.

You got it.

Do you want me to dig
some of these little rocks out,

- as well?
-Yeah. You get in
every little...

Let's wash

-that one off.
-So, you actually wash
the rocks,

-as well?
-Yeah, the gold sticks to 'em.

This is way more promising
of a crack

than I thought it was.

- It's going deep.
-I mean, it is.

I can put me hand there.

Schoose:
I'll tell you what,

we're liable to get
some good color.

You think we've got
enough stuff yet, bob?

Schoose: Yeah, we got enough
for a good test.

Narrator:
After bob and gary

spend several hours
collecting material,

they return to the old
western town of goldfield...

You want to split this up,

-and we'll each do half of that.
-Yeah.

...Where bob gives gary a lesson

in panning for gold.

Schoose:
All right, sink her down good

and shake and shake and shake,
and that's the trick.

That settles the gold.

Sometimes that gold
clings to the rock real good.

Yeah, see, you're wiggling,
and I'm shaking.

Well, go this way.

Go side to side.
That creates the best...

Way to drop her.

Then you kind of just wash a
little of the top off like this.

Gary:
Okay.

Are you kidding me, man?

-I-is that gold?
-Yeah.

-That sure looks like
a little speck.
-Yeah!

My god. This is gold?

-It looks like it.
-That is bloody fantastic.

-Check it out.
-It looks good.

It looks good. Yeah,

I think you got a bit.

Bloody hell, mate.

That is superstition gold.

that is fantastic.

That is a bobby-dazzler.

This is a top pocket find, mate.

That's pretty lucky.
Got to be first...

You know, beginner's luck.

Beginner's luck?
You know how old I am, mate?

wow. This is bloody fantastic.

Matty: So, gary, this is
incredible. It's fair to say

you found gold in the
superstition mountains. I mean,

-that's incredible.
-I can actually say
it panned out.

--I guess you can.

So, is the bulldog mine...
Is that the answer?

Is that the lost dutchman mine?

Is that the treasure? Is that
what everybody's looking for?

I guess
we'll never know for sure

because we're not allowed
to go into the place

and search for gold anymore.

-So you couldn't go there.
-Gary: No, I couldn't.

I could just go
in the foothills.

Maybe it could be true,

but we're talking
about a massive area

where there was a lot of gold,
and, you know,

everybody's got their opinion,
and they are adamant

they know where
the lost dutchman mine is.

Right, so where do we go
from here?

Gary:
There is a small army

of gold hunters out there.

One of those treasure hunters
has been at it the longest.

He's 90 years old

and still looking
for the lost dutchman mine.

You hear that, rick?
90 years old,

and he hasn't quit yet.

Rick: I still got
a long ways to go here.

Don't give up.

Hey, dan did it.

-I know.
-Dan did it.

And just like dan blankenship,

this treasure hunter that I met,

called clay worst,
was as sharp as a tack.

-And what he showed me

was incredible.

-Well...
-Matty: Intrigued.

Narrator:
In the past 130 years,

hundreds of prospectors
have ventured

into the superstition mountains,

searching
for the lost dutchman treasur,

but none have possessed
the pedigree--

or direct connection
to the "dutchman," jacob waltz--

as clay worst.

gary:
Superstition mountains.

-Dang, what a view, clay!
-Ha-ha!

-It is.
-That is spectacular!

That brings it home.

-Is that not beautiful?
-And I want to thank you, mate,

for inviting me into your house.

All I've ever heard about
the superstition mountains,

and especially
the jacob waltz story...

-Yep.
-Is, there's only one person

you've got to talk to who...

Has got a link to jacob waltz.

You're the last one.

You're the last person
that actually knows someone

that was at jacob waltz's...

At least I shook...
I shook the hand of a man

that shook the dutchman's hand.

And 130 years after the event,

you can't get
much closer than that.

Narrator:
Clay worst has spent 65 years

hunting
for the lost dutchman mine.

During 20 of those years,

he was accompanied
by george "brownie" holmes,

the son of dick holmes,

the man who was reportedly
present when jacob waltz die.

It was dick holmes
whom many believe

ended up with the 48 pounds
of gold ore

that waltz kept hidden
under his bed.

And it's a portion
of that gold ore

that, worst claims,
was made into a keepsake

that has become a priceless part
of his vast collection.

That is the so-called
dutchman matchbox.

Now, the dutchman
never had that matchbox.

That was made about a year
after the dutchman died.

The insets are quartz ore.

Incredibly rich.

This is absolutely amazing.

So, I'm holding a piece
of the dutchman's gold?

Clay:
Well, he said he got it

from a mine
in the superstition mountains.

Absolutely bloody incredible.

I've held a lot of treasures.

-Yeah.
-But this--

just the history
connected to it.

Is there any way
of proving that it is

-the pitcher gold?
-Well, there is--

there is an affidavit,

that's notarized.

It goes back
to the holmes family,

explaining exactly how
they got that gold.

So, what is this stating?

Well, it simply states

that the gold came from
under the bed of jacob waltz

when he died in October of 1891.

Now, that doesn't prove that the
gold's from the dutchman's mine.

But it definitely came
from under his bed.

And he said that that gold came

from a mine that he had
in the superstition mountains.

Narrator:
The story
of the lost dutchman mine

might have been lost to history

had it not been
for the mysterious death

of another elderly prospector

some 40 years
after jacob waltz's passing.

It was the death--
I presume the murder--

of adolph ruth in 1931,

which was nationally syndicated
all over the united states.

That was what brought the story

of the lost dutchman mine out
into the public.

Narrator:
Adolph ruth was
a 65-year-old veterinarian

who had sustained
a lifelong leg injury

during a previous
gold hunting expedition.

But when he acquired a treasure
map of gold mines in arizona,

the prospect of untold riches

lured the frail animal doctor

into the superstition mountains.

Clay:
We definitely know
that adolph ruth

was searching
for what he presumed

was the lost dutchman mine.

His skeletal remains
were found miles away

from where he was camped,

over incredibly rough,
brushy country.

He was taken there by someone.

Now, there were holes
through both sides of his skull.

So I'm really convinced
that he was shot to death.

I've got to ask you, mate.

Where do you think
the lost dutchman mine is?

Well, that's--

the conversation's
going someplace I can't go.

Because the search
is still ongoing.

'cause I have brought a map
with me.

And I was hoping that...

That I'd show you
where the mine is.

not even an "x" on the map,

although that would be good.

No. I can't do that
for this reason.

The general location
is known to...

Actually,
less than a handful of people.

And it is
still jealously guarded.

I-I've got about seven man-years
of my life

back of that mountain,

searching for the dutchman.

And those years
are the most precious,

precious memories of my life.

And I would not take $10 million
today in exchange

for my memories

of the years that I spent
hunting the dutchman.

I'm dead serious.

If I could turn the clock back
to 1947

and absolutely knew then
that I would never find it...

I would do it all over again.

Narrator:
If the gold ore found
beneath jacob waltz's deathbd

came from
the lost dutchman mine,

is there a way
of determining where

in the superstition mountains
the mine is located?

A family of prospectors believes
they possess the documents

and the technology
to answer that question

and finally solve

one of the world's most baffling
treasure mysteries.

Ck: You know, it seems
like there's a common theme

between this search

and oak island--
not just the curse.

When we first started
with oak island,

-remember what we thought?
-Yeah, science would solve all.

We thought
science was gonna carry the day.

Well, it's interesting that you
guys are talking about science

to solve a mystery.

'cause I met
some treasure hunters in arizona

who were using science,

and they are adamant
they know where the mine is.

Matty:
Is this different than when

you were with bob schoose
and where he thinks it is?

-Yeah. Totally different.
-Okay.

Narrator:
One week ago,

while searching for information
about the legendary

lost dutchman mine,

gary drayton met with
treasure hunters ron feldman

and his sons, jesse and josh,

at a horse stable they own

in the shadow
of the superstition mountain.

He is eager to compare
their theory

to those he has learned about

from rival enthusiasts
bob schoose and clay worst.

It seems to me like there's
a reoccurring theme.

Everybody connected to the
lost dutchman mine, you know,

passionate guys like you guys,

they are confident

they know
where the lost dutchman mine is.

-Jesse: Yep.
-I think the history,

-technology and geology...
-That's right.

...That's what gets you

to where the dutchman mine
actually is located.

Narrator:
For ron feldman,

finding the location
of the lost dutchman mine

is the culmination of a lifetime
devoted to treasure hunting.

It is a passion he has passed
along to his entire family.

When I was a kid growing up
in buffalo, new york,

I, for some reason,
was captivated

by lost mine stories
and buried treasures.

Matter of fact,
I went up to northern california

and dredged rivers for gold.

My eye though was always on
the lost dutchman,

because it was
the most publicized.

It was the great granddaddy
of all lost mines.

And ron feldman someday wanted
to hunt that mine.

Finally did.

Came here in 1966.

Part of my legacy is the passion

for hunting for gold mine
and the lost dutchman

that I have left for my boys.

My boys have
absolutely been born into this.

Josh:
My dad moved to arizona

to hunt the lost dutchman mie
when he was a young man.

So I grew up around it.

Dad took us all over
the superstition mountains

looking for that thing.

So, when we were kids,

it was just an adventure.

Go out with dad.
Have a good time.

And then, as we got older,

we started getting more into
the research and the history

and really understanding
what was going on.

So, it became a passion of mine.

Narrator:
After decades of searching

for the lost dutchman mine,

the feldmans believe

they may have finally discovered
its hiding place

located some 20 miles
from the bulldog mine,

on the eastern side
of the superstition mountain.

So, you guys believe

that the silver chief mine
is the lost dutchman mine?

-Yes, 100%.
-Absolutely.

-Yup.
-Yup, it has to be.

But we have believed that

for years-- in fact, decades--

because of the ted cox notes.

Narrator:
Ted cox was one

of the most intriguing
treasure hunters

to ever set foot
in the superstitions.

Ron:
Ted cox was born about 1920.

Grew up
in these mining communities.

His father was said
to have even known jacob waltz.

He spent his life
in the superstition mountains

following all the information

and the geology
and the history, and actually

professed that he found
the lost dutchman mine.

Narrator:
Ted cox's search brought him

in direct contact
with many of the key players

in the dutchman saga.

Among them, rhinehart petrasch,

the man who was living
in the same house

where jacob waltz
lived and died.

Cox chronicled his adventures
in hundreds

of handwritten pages
that exist to this day.

Have you actually
got those notes?

-We have those here.
-I can show you.

I have all of ted cox's
written material, all his notes.

They were turned over to me
by his widow.

And these are all
originals, right?

These are all original,
handwritten.

His handwriting
was very illegible almost.

It took me two years
to decipher all this

and read through it
and understand it.

Look at this here. "this report
on the lost dutchman mine

and my attempt to own and
mine it between 1957 and 1964."

ted cox knew where
the lost dutchman mine was.

And he was on the eastern end
of the superstition mountains.

Most of the legend and the lore

about the lost dutchman mine
takes you

to the west end
of the superstition mountains.

Where's the silver chief mine?

Ron:
Silver chief is on the east end

of the superstition mountains,
right up here.

Okay, so you really have
put an "x" on the map?

An "x" on the map.

Jesse:
Ted cox was the first person
to say,

the silver chief mine is
the lost dutchman mine.

And you can see
how much he wrote

because he believed it so much.

You see, for the first 25 years

of my dutchman hunting career,

I became an expert on where
the lost dutchman was not.

Because I was always on the west
end where everybody else put it.

When I got into these notes
and deciphered them,

ted cox opened my eyes.

And he put me right on the spot
of the lost dutchman mine.

From deciphering these notes,
we walked right to the place.

: Northwest of arizona's
superstition mountains,

gary drayton meets with
treasure hunter ron feldman

and his sons, jesse and josh.

The feldmans are convinced
that history,

geology and technology
may have helped them find

the actual location
of the lost dutchman mine.

This is the science that
our father has done recently.

This is new stuff
to all of us, right?

But because
of the history that we know,

you take that all together,
and it confirms time and again

that the silver chief
is the dutchman mine.

Narrator:
The science revolves
around comparing ore samples

the feldmans collected from
a number of mines in the area

with a sample
of lost dutchman gold.

What sample did you use
for the lost dutchman mine gold?

It was the matchbox.
It was a piece of jewelry

that supposedly came
from the dutchman.

When he died,
it was underneath his bed,

and it was made into jewelry.

-So, I think you have seen it?
-Yup.

But I compared that
with the silver chief ore.

Narrator:
Treasure hunter clay worst

loaned ron the same matchbox

gary examined in clay's home.

It is now the centerpiece
of ron's investigation.

That's really where
the xrf machine comes in.

The only way
to really compare the ores

is with this machine
because it's non-destructive.

-Yeah.
-We could've took the matchbox
and destroyed it,

and then done the same test
and figured out the elements

in each ore
and done it that way.

But you'd have to crush it down
and destroy it. Well...

-And you're not gonna
destroy that.
-No.

-You can't destroy dutchman ore.
-No.

So, the xrf machine
actually measures

each element
by the amount of fluorescence

that is
in every element on earth.

And it's like a fingerprint.

Xrf? What does that
stand for, ron?

-X-ray fluorescence.
-Okay.

Narrator:
The xrf analyzer functions

by bombarding the ore samples
with high-powered x-rays.

This excites
the atomic particles,

causing the release
of electromagnetic radiation.

Based upon how much radiation
is released, one can determine

the elemental composition
of each sample.

So I did ten different samples
of different ores,

including the lost dutchman ore,

mammoth ore,
black queen ore, many ores.

And in the chart, it shows
the differences of all the ores.

And there was one
conclusive proof.

For instance, the black queen.

Manganese, iron, copper, zinc.

There you go.
I was on gold right there.

So that piece had gold in it.

Lead, rubidium and strontium.

Dang. So there is gold
in that piece there?

There's-there's gold
in this piece.

This is the chart that I did
with ten different ores.

What is really rare in nature
is to find mercury.

Mercury usually
doesn't exist in most ores.

But if you read the chart,
what was identified here,

the only ores that read mercury:

Lost dutchman, kochera's,
silver chief.

-Everything else was zero.
-Josh: All of the ores

that either came
from the superstition mountains

or were purported to come from

the superstition mountains
carried mercury.

And all the ores
that didn't come from

the superstition mountains,
even the goldfields right here,

which are not
really in the superstitions--

they're at the foothills
of the superstition mountains--

-did not have mercury.
-Gary: Okay.

So what's that tell you?

The three that were
purported or came

from the superstition mountains

had the same fingerprint
of mercury in it.

And none of the other ores did.

Narrator:
The feldmans' results

align with those of another,
geological study--

one that was conducted

by the united states
geological survey.

Ron:
The usgs did a study--

I think it was 1976--
and what they did

is they wanted to measure
mercury vapors, okay?

-So in the air?
-From the air.

And they flew several places
in arizona

to try and measure it.

The highest reading
of mercury presence

was in
the superstition mountains.

By three times
the amount of any others.

Josh:
If dutchman ore

came from the
superstition mountains,

then it should have
mercury in it.

The test that he did
with the xrf proves

that ore in the matchbox
has mercury in it.

And ore at the silver chief
has mercury in it.

When you put all that together,

all those pieces of the puzzle
start to fit together

and then paint
the picture for you.

It's kind of ironic,
you guys are gold hunters,

but the mercury
has led you to the gold.

The mercury has
an affinity for gold.

It combines with it.

Wow, so this xrf really helped
you pinpoint the location.

-Yes.
-Well, I'm going with you, mate.

If you say
it's the silver chief mine,

I'm-I'm open with that.

-Jesse: You're a smart man.
-Yep, get on board.

ron's gone old-school with
all the historical records

and he's gone high tech
with the xrf machine

and then he's got
the ted cox documents

that really close
the case for him.

A-and you can see the look
in his son's eyes as well, he--

this family knows where
the lost dutchman mine is.

Now the question is,
is there any more gold there?

Yes, there is gold still
in that mine.

So why aren't you mining it?

Well, if the mine was here

and available,
we would be mining it.

It happens to be in wilderness.

Tightly controlled by the
united states forest service.

There is no mining allowed.

I don't want to mine it
from jail.

Yeah-- so can you get a permit?

No. No permits.
There is no mining.

Mining was completely taken out
of that wilderness in 1984.

-That is a damn shame.
-Josh: You can go out there

in those mountains
and you can legally prospect.

You can look
for the presence of mineral,

you can look for the lost
dutchman mine for that matter.

But if you find it,
you can't legally mine it.

Narrator:
There is another factor
that compounds the problem.

The silver chief mine
has completely caved in,

making it virtually
impossible to enter.

We're talking about an old hole
that has collapsed.

You'd have to dig
the entire thing out,

completely reconstruct
the entire mine.

And that takes a lot of money
and a lot of equipment,

if it was legal.

Now I know why they say this
lost dutchman mine is cursed.

You know, all this
scientific information,

you know where it is and we
can't go in there and get it.

- Notice how I said
"we" there.

-are you a new partner,
are you?
-You got a big checkbook?

- I've got a big top pocket,
though, mate.

gary:
You guys are sitting
on a gold mine.

matty: So, gary, you think
the feldmans

have kind of solved this thing?

I think the feldmans' theory
is highly credible.

-Marty: Based on what?

-Explain this to me.
-Gary: Science, mate.

You were saying how science

is the key
to solving these mysteries.

And that is exactly
what the feldmans are using.

Rick:
Yeah, I have a problem with the,

the basic "solution,"
and that is that,

was the base sample
that they took, was it really

from the "lost dutchman"?

If not, then it's just matching
a mine to a mine.

That's a really good point.
That even the "proof,"

as it were,
the scientific proof,

is kind of based on a legend.

It's based on word of mouth.

You know, it strikes me,

I'm listening to gary talk about

different families
presenting their evidence

as to why they think it's there,

-it reminds me of oak island.
-Rick: Absolutely.

As you say, there's three
or four families that...

At least three of four
families that believe they know

exactly where it is, and yet
it can't be all three of them.

No.

What do you think--
I'll ask all of you guys--

what do you think it's gonna
take to solve this one,

because there's a lot
of moving parts?

It's gonna take
a prayer to solve this one,

because the area
of the silver chief mine

- is in a restricted area.

-rick: Of course.
-No one can go looking
for gold there.

The government owns that area.
It's shut down.

Marty:
So the only way
would be to reopen it,

and it can't be done.
At least, not now.

Gary:
Not now.

Matty:
This one,

particularly, really dealt in
curses and rumors and stories.

So where do you guys
stand on curses?

Well, in this particular case,
the curse might be

-that this is, just became
unsolvable, right?
-Yeah.

And I mean, and maybe that's the
origin of some of these curses.

Maybe that's the curse
of human nature. I don't know.

-Right.
-Just a thought.

Rick:
I-I personally don't buy
into a curse.

I-I would never stop
doing something

simply because
I was afraid of something.

-Right.
-Especially an unknown.

I wouldn't.
It wouldn't bother me.

I believe in curses. I feel
cursed now because I want

-to go back to
the superstition mountains.
-Matty: Right.

It's just something
draws you to there.

So, matty, you asked us
about, you know,

our belief about curses.

So I'll turn the question
back on you.

What do you believe?

Well, I mean, I'll be honest.

You guys know this about me
a little bit, but I-I do believe

in unexplained
metaphysical things

that-that can't be
explained easily.

I do believe in curses.
Now, whether...

Whether that's self-imposed,
whether people take that energy

and kind of make it happen, you
could explain it away that way,

but I do believe
there are things that happen

that we can't explain.

Well, sometimes a curse
can be a blessing.

And that blessing
is always gonna be treasure.

Perfect. On that note,
we have our own curse/blessing

waiting for us out here.

-Let's get back to work.
-We sure do.

And a treasure to find.

Matty:
Yes. Thanks, guys.

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