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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,087 --> 00:00:04,336 Rick: We grew up on 2 00:00:04,380 --> 00:00:05,796 wild west stories. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,715 Nelson: Butch cassidy was 4 00:00:07,758 --> 00:00:09,133 one of the last of his kind. 5 00:00:09,176 --> 00:00:11,301 Jameson: The daltons, they had $20,000 6 00:00:11,345 --> 00:00:12,970 from their train robberies. 7 00:00:13,014 --> 00:00:14,388 Sandoval: They needed to get rid 8 00:00:14,432 --> 00:00:15,639 of the gold. 9 00:00:15,683 --> 00:00:17,224 And they did it. 10 00:00:17,268 --> 00:00:18,600 They would have stashed some loot at the hideout, 11 00:00:18,644 --> 00:00:21,061 - and you're gonna go find it? 12 00:00:21,105 --> 00:00:22,938 gary: This is like a dream come true 13 00:00:22,982 --> 00:00:23,897 -for me. -Yeah. 14 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:25,190 --ooh. 15 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:26,692 I got it. It's an oldie. 16 00:00:30,031 --> 00:00:31,739 All while we were growing up, 17 00:00:31,782 --> 00:00:33,741 my brother and I were fascinated 18 00:00:33,784 --> 00:00:35,034 with finding treasure. 19 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:37,119 Rick: Pirate treasure, 20 00:00:37,163 --> 00:00:38,871 cursed treasure. 21 00:00:38,914 --> 00:00:40,706 Civil war gold. 22 00:00:40,750 --> 00:00:43,584 - -since then, our work on oak island 23 00:00:43,627 --> 00:00:45,836 has shown us there's a world of mysteries... 24 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,756 -Whoa. -...Waiting to be explored. 25 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:51,717 So, we like to reach out to other treasure hunters. 26 00:00:51,761 --> 00:00:53,969 X marks the spot, right there. Brilliant. 27 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:56,305 -Marty: We want to hear their stories... -That's right. 28 00:00:56,348 --> 00:00:58,724 -...And share our insights. -"ill-gotten gains." 29 00:00:58,768 --> 00:01:00,267 -rick: And who knows... -Gary: I got it. 30 00:01:00,311 --> 00:01:02,061 ...Maybe we can help them with their search. 31 00:01:02,104 --> 00:01:03,729 Marty: Not only in america. 32 00:01:03,773 --> 00:01:04,855 Wow. That is gold. 33 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,523 -Rick: But all over the world. -Yeah! 34 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:09,068 Marty: Beyond oak island. 35 00:01:17,078 --> 00:01:18,827 Matty: You know, what's amazing 36 00:01:18,871 --> 00:01:21,538 is that no matter how much information we compile 37 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:23,373 on these treasure-based stories, 38 00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:25,167 it's like there's just more and more. 39 00:01:25,211 --> 00:01:26,668 And a lot of them. 40 00:01:26,712 --> 00:01:28,504 Yeah. And I'm always surprised along the way, 41 00:01:28,547 --> 00:01:30,756 - of-of just how many twists and turns... 42 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,508 ...And yet similarities these things have. 43 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:34,176 -Rick: Hey, there he is. 44 00:01:34,220 --> 00:01:35,385 - Hello, chaps. 45 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:36,804 -gary drayton. -How you doing? 46 00:01:36,847 --> 00:01:38,889 -My mate from another state. -Hey, gary. 47 00:01:38,933 --> 00:01:40,349 Gary: How you doing, chaps? 48 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:42,851 -You find anything today? -Not today. 49 00:01:42,895 --> 00:01:44,478 But what I have found 50 00:01:44,522 --> 00:01:49,274 is probably a really good potential treasure hunt. 51 00:01:49,318 --> 00:01:50,609 What's that all about? 52 00:01:50,653 --> 00:01:53,195 I got a call from bill betenson, 53 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:58,200 who is the great-grandnephew of butch cassidy, 54 00:01:58,244 --> 00:01:59,868 of butch cassidy and the sundance kid fame. 55 00:01:59,912 --> 00:02:01,328 Wow! 56 00:02:01,372 --> 00:02:02,371 No kidding. 57 00:02:02,414 --> 00:02:03,831 Gary: His great grandmother 58 00:02:03,874 --> 00:02:05,958 was butch cassidy's sister. 59 00:02:06,001 --> 00:02:08,585 And he wants me to go out to utah 60 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:11,547 and-and search a place called robber's roost, 61 00:02:11,590 --> 00:02:15,092 one of the hangouts of butch and his gang, the wild bunch. 62 00:02:15,136 --> 00:02:17,469 The conjecture, I suppose, is they would have stashed 63 00:02:17,513 --> 00:02:19,888 some loot at the hideout and you're gonna go find it. 64 00:02:19,932 --> 00:02:21,974 Yeah, because these guys 65 00:02:22,017 --> 00:02:26,353 were prolific train robbers and bank robbers 66 00:02:26,397 --> 00:02:29,398 and when they stole stuff, it was 67 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:32,151 mainly $20 gold pieces 68 00:02:32,194 --> 00:02:33,652 and they're heavy. 69 00:02:33,696 --> 00:02:35,070 So when they're getting these 70 00:02:35,114 --> 00:02:37,573 -sacks of gold coins, you can't... -Both: Yeah. 71 00:02:37,616 --> 00:02:39,491 ...Take those around with you. 72 00:02:39,535 --> 00:02:42,870 You would have to bury the god 73 00:02:42,913 --> 00:02:46,123 and this hideout of theirs, robber's roost, 74 00:02:46,167 --> 00:02:49,751 is really remote and so we're gonna see what's there. 75 00:02:49,795 --> 00:02:51,920 You're not enthusiastic about 76 00:02:51,964 --> 00:02:54,715 - doing that, are you? 77 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:57,634 you know, for me, it conjures up memories of 78 00:02:57,678 --> 00:03:00,387 reading these stories as-as a child. 79 00:03:00,431 --> 00:03:03,849 I mean, we grew up on wild west stories. 80 00:03:03,893 --> 00:03:08,645 But what we really experienced as kids was the old tv shows 81 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:11,565 because you go to the television 82 00:03:11,609 --> 00:03:13,734 and it becomes more real. 83 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:16,570 I mean, I was actually there. 84 00:03:16,614 --> 00:03:18,739 You smelled the gun smoke. 85 00:03:18,782 --> 00:03:21,116 - -you heard the guns go off. 86 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,785 You saw the horses race down the trail. 87 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:25,787 It came alive. 88 00:03:25,831 --> 00:03:28,957 And so butch cassidy, obviously, the question 89 00:03:29,001 --> 00:03:31,627 -presents itself, "have you seen the movie?" -I have, mate. 90 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:33,962 You know, I grew up in England, and that's what we watched. 91 00:03:34,006 --> 00:03:35,881 All the american movies. 92 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:39,551 think you used enough dynamite there, butch? 93 00:03:43,974 --> 00:03:45,307 Announcer: They robbed trains. 94 00:03:45,351 --> 00:03:46,558 Looted banks. 95 00:03:46,602 --> 00:03:48,227 -Manos arriba. -They got 'em up! 96 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:50,270 You're so damn smart, you read it! 97 00:03:50,314 --> 00:03:51,772 Announcer: They were outlaws running out 98 00:03:51,815 --> 00:03:53,815 of time and out of space. 99 00:03:53,859 --> 00:03:55,067 -You jump first. -No, I said. 100 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:57,027 - What's the matter with you? 101 00:04:00,616 --> 00:04:02,282 you know, it's a great movie. I mean, it's 102 00:04:02,326 --> 00:04:03,825 -a classic movie. -Yeah. 103 00:04:03,869 --> 00:04:05,744 -Yeah. -Marty: But it's a funny thing. 104 00:04:05,788 --> 00:04:07,371 While we tend to romanticize 105 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:09,748 -the wild, wild west. -Gary: And we all root 106 00:04:09,792 --> 00:04:13,043 for, I know it sounds bad, but the bad guys a lot. 107 00:04:13,087 --> 00:04:14,253 -The underdog, for sure. -Yeah. 108 00:04:14,296 --> 00:04:15,379 You know, if the authorities 109 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:16,713 are zeroing in on somebody, 110 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:18,257 you kind of want them to prevail, you know? 111 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,008 I mean, you sort of do. 112 00:04:20,052 --> 00:04:21,468 You know what's interesting about the movie. 113 00:04:21,512 --> 00:04:23,845 And we've all seen it, right, you know, other than, 114 00:04:23,889 --> 00:04:26,139 I'm sure they probably didn't look exactly the same 115 00:04:26,183 --> 00:04:27,766 as robert redford and paul newman, 116 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:29,935 I guess the film is rather 117 00:04:29,979 --> 00:04:32,145 historically accurate to what happened to them. 118 00:04:32,189 --> 00:04:33,689 - Yeah, yeah. -I think so, yeah. 119 00:04:33,732 --> 00:04:37,276 Narrator: During the heyday of the old west, 120 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:41,655 institutions like railroads and banks were considered 121 00:04:41,699 --> 00:04:44,074 easy targets for outlaws. 122 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:47,828 They usually had large caches of gold and silver-- 123 00:04:47,871 --> 00:04:51,248 especially due to the payrolls required to pay 124 00:04:51,292 --> 00:04:54,042 the thousands of men who were working on the railroads 125 00:04:54,086 --> 00:04:57,379 and the increasing number of settlers who were bringing 126 00:04:57,423 --> 00:05:00,299 all of their earthly belongings with them from back east. 127 00:05:00,342 --> 00:05:03,760 A better-than-average bandit could pocket thousands 128 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:06,722 of dollars with each hold-up, while the average wage earner 129 00:05:06,765 --> 00:05:09,266 was making $10 a week. 130 00:05:09,310 --> 00:05:13,687 But for outlaws like butch and sundance, 131 00:05:13,731 --> 00:05:16,231 robbing trains and sticking up banks 132 00:05:16,275 --> 00:05:19,443 was getting harder and harder to do... 133 00:05:19,486 --> 00:05:24,197 As automobiles and modern telephones were rapidly 134 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:28,952 replacing horses and telegraphs as tools of law enforcement. 135 00:05:28,996 --> 00:05:32,122 Nelson: Butch cassidy was one of the last of his kind. 136 00:05:32,166 --> 00:05:34,291 He comes onto the scene at a time 137 00:05:34,335 --> 00:05:36,460 when the old west is closing. 138 00:05:36,503 --> 00:05:39,629 When the ranches are being consolidated, 139 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,632 when the railroads are getting wise to outlaws 140 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,135 trying to steal from their trains. 141 00:05:46,805 --> 00:05:49,514 Hansen: Butch cassidy never robbed from poor people. 142 00:05:49,558 --> 00:05:52,768 He only robbed from corporations, usually, 143 00:05:52,811 --> 00:05:55,771 but also very wealthy people. 144 00:05:55,814 --> 00:05:59,316 And he was famous at one time for robbing a train. 145 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,320 And a person was objecting that he was doing that, and he said 146 00:06:03,364 --> 00:06:06,907 simply, "you have great wealth and we have great need." 147 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:10,744 narrator: After several successful robberies, 148 00:06:10,788 --> 00:06:12,662 butch cassidy and his gang 149 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:15,207 set their sights on what they thought 150 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:17,250 could be their last great heist-- 151 00:06:17,294 --> 00:06:20,295 the wilcox train robbery. 152 00:06:20,339 --> 00:06:24,841 Nelson: On the morning of June 2, 1899, 153 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,885 the union pacific overland flyer, 154 00:06:26,929 --> 00:06:29,096 which is a passenger train, is making 155 00:06:29,139 --> 00:06:31,306 its way outside of wilcox. 156 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:33,683 And in the distance, they see 157 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:36,436 men holding red lanterns, 158 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,398 which is a signal that the tracks are out ahead. 159 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:41,066 So the train 160 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:43,610 comes to a halt, but of course, it isn't workers 161 00:06:43,654 --> 00:06:46,071 from the railroad with those red lanterns, 162 00:06:46,115 --> 00:06:49,366 it's members of the wild bunch who quickly enter the engine, 163 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:52,953 disarm the engineer and begin methodically 164 00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:54,746 to go about robbing the train. 165 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:56,706 That includes separating the passenger cars; 166 00:06:56,750 --> 00:07:00,210 using dynamite not once but twice to blow up the safe 167 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:01,586 to get at the money. 168 00:07:05,342 --> 00:07:08,051 narrator: The gang made off 169 00:07:08,095 --> 00:07:11,471 with $50,000 in cash and gold, 170 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:13,056 which would be the equivalent 171 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:15,809 of a whopping $1.5 million today. 172 00:07:15,853 --> 00:07:19,896 The robbery was the most famous of its time-- 173 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:23,358 a fact which only served to place the gang directly 174 00:07:23,402 --> 00:07:25,652 in the crosshairs of the authorities. 175 00:07:25,696 --> 00:07:29,906 Nelson: So by that point, the railroads are fed up 176 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:31,408 with having been robbed repeatedly 177 00:07:31,452 --> 00:07:33,243 by this one particular gang. 178 00:07:33,287 --> 00:07:36,413 Narrator: A $3,000 reward 179 00:07:36,457 --> 00:07:39,624 for each of the bandits was immediately offered 180 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:42,169 and a posse of nearly 100 men- 181 00:07:42,212 --> 00:07:44,421 including members of the infamous 182 00:07:44,465 --> 00:07:47,007 pinkerton national detective agency-- 183 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:50,927 were rounded up to ruthlessly hunt down cassidy and his gang 184 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:53,763 and bring them to justice. 185 00:07:53,807 --> 00:07:57,434 Nelson: The pinkertons are a sign that things are changing. 186 00:07:57,478 --> 00:08:00,103 The pinkertons, by this point, have a large database 187 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:03,064 of criminal photographs. 188 00:08:03,108 --> 00:08:04,733 Just as the old west is consolidating, 189 00:08:04,776 --> 00:08:08,320 so is law enforcement and government. 190 00:08:08,363 --> 00:08:11,198 Ernst: If the pinkertons wanted you badly enough, 191 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:13,200 they were gonna find you. 192 00:08:13,243 --> 00:08:16,411 They were relentless, they were vicious. 193 00:08:16,455 --> 00:08:20,123 They were just as bad as the outlaws and in some ways worse. 194 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:22,000 Narrator: With the pinkertons hot on their trail, 195 00:08:22,044 --> 00:08:25,378 the wild bunch needed to find a safe place 196 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,339 to stash their stolen gold. 197 00:08:27,382 --> 00:08:30,008 The intention was to come 198 00:08:30,052 --> 00:08:34,471 back for it after things had cooled down. 199 00:08:34,515 --> 00:08:38,934 To escape the posse, cassidy hightailed it to south america, 200 00:08:38,977 --> 00:08:42,229 along with fellow outlaw the sundance kid, 201 00:08:42,272 --> 00:08:45,815 and sundance's wife, etta place. 202 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:50,987 Nelson: There's some speculation about why they chose south america. 203 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:53,281 One idea is that it would be easy pickings 204 00:08:53,325 --> 00:08:55,158 for experienced outlaws, 205 00:08:55,202 --> 00:08:57,536 who'd be able to make a couple of quick scores 206 00:08:57,579 --> 00:08:59,871 and then live comfortably for the rest of their lives. 207 00:08:59,915 --> 00:09:04,251 Narrator: In 1908, seven years after butch and sundance 208 00:09:04,294 --> 00:09:06,336 escaped to south america, 209 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:10,215 it was reported that two masked american bandits 210 00:09:10,259 --> 00:09:11,883 robbed a payroll in bolivia. 211 00:09:11,927 --> 00:09:15,262 It wasn't long before suspicions fell upon 212 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:18,139 the two former leaders of the wild bunch. 213 00:09:18,183 --> 00:09:19,933 This is not a place where they're 214 00:09:19,977 --> 00:09:21,560 familiar with the territory. 215 00:09:21,603 --> 00:09:23,728 They don't know the terrain. 216 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:25,730 They don't know the people. 217 00:09:25,774 --> 00:09:27,732 They don't have any allies. 218 00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:31,486 So, ultimately, they have nowhere to run. 219 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:34,322 Narrator: On the evening of November 6, 220 00:09:34,366 --> 00:09:36,491 bolivian soldiers and police 221 00:09:36,535 --> 00:09:39,953 surrounded the pair in a small mountain lodge. 222 00:09:39,997 --> 00:09:42,956 A shootout ensued. 223 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,710 But when the dust cleared, the fate of the two outlaws 224 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:50,046 wasn't entirely certain. 225 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:53,091 Nelson: We don't have, let's say, the most reliable account 226 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:57,012 of the ultimate downfall of butch and sundance. 227 00:09:57,055 --> 00:09:59,889 We have to rely on the reports 228 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:01,975 of the bolivian authorities. 229 00:10:02,019 --> 00:10:05,770 Narrator: Although most historians insist that butch cassidy 230 00:10:05,814 --> 00:10:08,106 and the sundance kid met their fate 231 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:10,567 on a dusty bolivian street, 232 00:10:10,611 --> 00:10:14,321 there are a growing number who have become convinced that 233 00:10:14,364 --> 00:10:16,781 not only did at least one of them survive... 234 00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:20,577 But that they actually returned to america with the intention 235 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:23,830 of retrieving their hidden treasure. 236 00:10:23,874 --> 00:10:26,791 Bill: My great grandma, butch's younger sister, 237 00:10:26,835 --> 00:10:29,878 said that he wasn't killed in bolivia and she claimed 238 00:10:29,921 --> 00:10:33,632 that he came back and visited the family in 1925. 239 00:10:33,675 --> 00:10:36,509 Narrator: If butch cassidy survived, 240 00:10:36,553 --> 00:10:39,679 was he able to claim the thousands in stolen gold 241 00:10:39,723 --> 00:10:42,057 that reportedly lies somewhere hidden 242 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:44,684 near his gang's infamous hideout? 243 00:10:44,728 --> 00:10:47,771 Or if not, could it mean 244 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,648 that the gold is still out there 245 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:52,651 waiting to be found? 246 00:10:56,907 --> 00:10:59,282 Sandoval: Right here is where 247 00:10:59,368 --> 00:11:02,786 it conjures up memories of wild west stories. 248 00:11:02,871 --> 00:11:04,871 It enflamed the imagination because 249 00:11:04,915 --> 00:11:06,247 when you think about it, 250 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:08,249 the wild, wild west and the participants-- 251 00:11:08,293 --> 00:11:10,418 there are some very interesting historical figures, 252 00:11:10,462 --> 00:11:14,047 and we're dealing from a legend perspective, right? 253 00:11:14,091 --> 00:11:16,049 Marty: You know, the wild west-- 254 00:11:16,093 --> 00:11:18,218 there's all kinds of treasure stories out there, 255 00:11:18,261 --> 00:11:20,428 because there's all kinds of people moving money around. 256 00:11:20,472 --> 00:11:22,222 And you had gold rushes going on, 257 00:11:22,265 --> 00:11:24,599 you had people getting it legitimately, 258 00:11:24,643 --> 00:11:26,601 and people wanting what the other people got. 259 00:11:26,645 --> 00:11:29,104 You know, I've always been, since I was a kid, 260 00:11:29,147 --> 00:11:30,605 captivated by the west. 261 00:11:30,649 --> 00:11:32,315 And one of my favorite stories, 262 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:34,317 just for their sheer audacity 263 00:11:34,403 --> 00:11:36,736 of what they attempted is the dalton gang. 264 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:38,279 -Absolutely. -Marty: Yeah. 265 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:40,490 Matty: They took a big swing, and what 266 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:42,242 ended up happening to them is one of the... 267 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:44,786 It's one of the great stories of the american west, really. 268 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:48,123 Narrator: Coffeyville, kansas. 269 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:51,292 October 5, 1892. 270 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:54,629 A gang of bank robbers that included four 271 00:11:54,673 --> 00:11:57,424 missouri-born brothers-- known as "the dalton gang"-- 272 00:11:57,467 --> 00:12:00,301 prepared to carry out one of the most brazen crimes 273 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:04,097 ever attempted in the annals of the wild west. 274 00:12:04,141 --> 00:12:08,309 The plan is to rob two banks 275 00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:11,271 simultaneously in coffeyville, kansas, 276 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:13,440 which are on opposite sides of the street. 277 00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:17,527 Three members of the gang will hit one bank, 278 00:12:17,612 --> 00:12:21,656 two will hit the other, and then they'll escape 279 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:25,326 with the largest haul that they've ever had. 280 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,495 Narrator: Before the day ended, 281 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:29,664 the streets would be soaked in blood, 282 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:33,334 and a fortune in gold and silver coins would lay buried 283 00:12:33,378 --> 00:12:35,503 and unclaimed in a campsite, 284 00:12:35,547 --> 00:12:38,381 somewhere south of the crime scene. 285 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:43,011 nelson: In the month leading up to the coffeyville raid, 286 00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:45,889 the daltons rob two trains in oklahoma, taking 287 00:12:45,974 --> 00:12:49,476 anywhere between $9,000 and $20,000. 288 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:53,521 Now, the night before the coffeyville raid, they camp 289 00:12:53,565 --> 00:12:55,982 at a place called "onion creek," 290 00:12:56,026 --> 00:12:57,984 near the kansas-oklahoma border. 291 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:00,403 And it's there that the legend 292 00:13:00,489 --> 00:13:02,572 of the lost treasure of the daltons 293 00:13:02,657 --> 00:13:04,657 emerges. 294 00:13:04,701 --> 00:13:07,243 Jameson: While they were in camp, 295 00:13:07,329 --> 00:13:09,871 they had $20,000 from their train robberies, 296 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,540 and they buried it at the campsite. 297 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:14,584 They didn't want to burden their horses down with... 298 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,544 With this $20,000 that was, 299 00:13:16,588 --> 00:13:18,880 by the way, in gold and silver coins. 300 00:13:18,924 --> 00:13:21,883 Today, that's about 20 millio. 301 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:23,760 And after they robbed the banks, 302 00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:26,221 they were gonna return to the onion creek campsite, 303 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:28,723 retrieve what they had buried there 304 00:13:28,767 --> 00:13:32,018 and then flee into oklahoma. 305 00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:33,561 Narrator: The next morning, 306 00:13:33,647 --> 00:13:36,189 the gang awoke early and rode 307 00:13:36,233 --> 00:13:39,692 towards what would become their date with disaster. 308 00:13:39,736 --> 00:13:42,237 Nelson: It may be that somehow 309 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,572 the town got word 310 00:13:44,616 --> 00:13:47,742 that the daltons were coming and were ready for them. 311 00:13:47,786 --> 00:13:51,788 Barndollar: A young man thought he recognized them, 312 00:13:51,873 --> 00:13:54,499 and he ran in, and he said, "that's the daltons!" 313 00:13:54,543 --> 00:13:56,251 mccoy: The townspeople immediately 314 00:13:56,294 --> 00:13:57,794 knew it was the dalton gang, 315 00:13:57,879 --> 00:13:59,504 and the alarm went up. 316 00:14:00,674 --> 00:14:02,590 Nelson: The citizens of coffeyville 317 00:14:02,634 --> 00:14:06,302 promptly arm themselves and prepare to greet the daltons 318 00:14:06,388 --> 00:14:08,930 after they emerge from the two banks. 319 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:12,267 Narrator: Emmett and bob dalton entered 320 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:15,937 the first bank, where the robbery proceeded as planned. 321 00:14:15,981 --> 00:14:19,983 Grat dalton and two other gang members hit the second bank, 322 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:23,152 where the bank teller tried to stall them. 323 00:14:23,238 --> 00:14:27,740 Mccoy: Grat-- we would charitably call him "dimwitted." 324 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:31,160 he wasn't good at thinking on his feet, 325 00:14:31,246 --> 00:14:34,038 and the teller in the condon bank told him 326 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,165 that he couldn't open the vault yet, 327 00:14:36,251 --> 00:14:37,792 that it was on a time lock. 328 00:14:37,836 --> 00:14:41,462 So grat decided to wait. 329 00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:45,091 Narrator: Outside the banks, the number 330 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:47,176 of armed citizens swelled to more than a hundred. 331 00:14:47,262 --> 00:14:49,554 Hansen: They wanted to defend 332 00:14:49,598 --> 00:14:51,306 the honor of coffeyville. 333 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:52,765 Jameson: And in those days, 334 00:14:52,809 --> 00:14:54,893 there weren't insurance companies that 335 00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:56,144 covered the loss. 336 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:58,104 If a bank was robbed, people lost their money. 337 00:14:58,148 --> 00:15:01,149 Narrator: It was now just a matter of time before 338 00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:05,278 all hell broke loose on the streets of coffeyville, kansas. 339 00:15:05,322 --> 00:15:08,489 When the outlaws emerged, 340 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:12,619 the townspeople greeted them with a hail of gunfire. 341 00:15:12,662 --> 00:15:16,205 What happens after that is a melee 342 00:15:16,291 --> 00:15:18,249 that is very difficult to describe. 343 00:15:21,796 --> 00:15:24,297 throngs of citizens shooting at the outlaws, 344 00:15:24,341 --> 00:15:27,300 the outlaws shooting back, 345 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:30,219 blood flying everywhere. 346 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:31,930 Total mayhem. 347 00:15:34,017 --> 00:15:35,600 Jameson: A couple of them had climbed 348 00:15:35,644 --> 00:15:37,310 aboard their horses and were riding away. 349 00:15:37,354 --> 00:15:39,896 Some of the loot was spilling out of the saddlebags. 350 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:41,731 Some of it was dropped in the street. 351 00:15:41,816 --> 00:15:43,733 It was a very adventurous attempt... 352 00:15:47,197 --> 00:15:49,697 ...But a very unsuccessful bank robbery. 353 00:15:49,741 --> 00:15:52,033 Narrator: When the smoke cleared, 354 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,702 four citizens of coffeyville were killed. 355 00:15:54,746 --> 00:15:58,873 Four of the five dalton gang members also lay dead-- 356 00:15:58,917 --> 00:16:00,875 their bodies later displayed in public 357 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,586 as a warning to other would-be outlaws. 358 00:16:08,718 --> 00:16:11,052 the only survivor is emmett. 359 00:16:11,096 --> 00:16:13,846 He survives being shot 360 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:15,848 anywhere from 23 361 00:16:15,892 --> 00:16:18,184 to 27 times. 362 00:16:18,228 --> 00:16:19,894 Lives to stand trial. 363 00:16:19,938 --> 00:16:23,856 His hospital bed wheeled into the courtroom every day. 364 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:26,859 Jameson: Emmett was found guilty 365 00:16:26,903 --> 00:16:28,861 of his nefarious activities 366 00:16:28,905 --> 00:16:31,531 and sentenced to life in prison. 367 00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:34,742 Narrator: When emmett was released in 1907, 368 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:37,245 after serving 14 years, 369 00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:39,247 authorities believed he would lead them 370 00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,915 to the onion creek treasure site. 371 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:42,709 They were wrong. 372 00:16:42,752 --> 00:16:45,712 Nelson: He knows people are following him, 373 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:49,215 but when asked, he says that he had no intention 374 00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:52,593 to retrieve the treasure, because to him, it was even 375 00:16:52,637 --> 00:16:54,721 cursed in a way, so, he had no intention 376 00:16:54,764 --> 00:16:57,682 of ever finding the money again. 377 00:16:59,811 --> 00:17:02,103 Jameson: As far as we know, that $20,000 378 00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:06,399 that was stolen in 1892, in gold and silver coins, 379 00:17:06,443 --> 00:17:10,486 is still buried near that onion creek campsite. 380 00:17:10,572 --> 00:17:13,781 Narrator: Did the dalton gang leave behind a fortune 381 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:16,826 in gold and silver coins near onion creek? 382 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,911 To this day, 383 00:17:18,955 --> 00:17:22,415 treasure hunters continue to search this barren land 384 00:17:22,459 --> 00:17:25,126 for the priceless cache that has remained hidden 385 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:26,836 for more than a century. 386 00:17:28,465 --> 00:17:31,299 Will that treasure ever be discovered? 387 00:17:31,342 --> 00:17:33,968 Only time will tell. 388 00:17:36,139 --> 00:17:39,182 And you know what's interesting about that is emmett dalton 389 00:17:39,267 --> 00:17:40,767 went into real estate, went to hollywood. 390 00:17:40,810 --> 00:17:42,977 He was an advisor on movies. 391 00:17:43,021 --> 00:17:45,271 But he's still stalked, basically, by the law, 392 00:17:45,315 --> 00:17:47,774 because they believed that there was a treasure 393 00:17:47,817 --> 00:17:50,359 at onion creek, and he wouldn't go back. 394 00:17:50,445 --> 00:17:51,569 And it's interesting, 395 00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:52,737 that aspect of, would you want to go back 396 00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:54,697 to the scene of the crime type of thing? 397 00:17:54,783 --> 00:17:56,491 You know, some people, I guess... 398 00:17:56,534 --> 00:17:58,159 Yeah, some seem to get pulled back into it, 399 00:17:58,203 --> 00:17:59,952 and some think, "nah, I've had enough of that now." 400 00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:02,038 -right, which is incredible. -Gary: Yeah, and for him 401 00:18:02,123 --> 00:18:04,290 not to go back, knowing that there's treasure there. 402 00:18:04,334 --> 00:18:06,292 There are some parts of your life 403 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:07,877 I think you want to just put behind you. 404 00:18:07,962 --> 00:18:09,337 In our own case, 405 00:18:09,380 --> 00:18:11,339 my father was brought up in an orphanage. 406 00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:14,634 And so, one day, I said, "geez, dad, maybe we ought to go back 407 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:16,636 to where you were raised and just sort of check it out." 408 00:18:16,679 --> 00:18:19,347 and he looked at me, and he said, "nah." 409 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:21,516 -yeah. -It was a big part of his life, 410 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:23,392 but it wasn't the happiest time of his life. 411 00:18:23,478 --> 00:18:26,020 -Exactly. -Yeah. -Marty: But then I think, 412 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:27,730 emmett dalton-- he just didn't want to go back there. 413 00:18:27,816 --> 00:18:30,191 I mean, picture it, really. Picture that you do have 414 00:18:30,235 --> 00:18:31,818 a new life, and you're making money, 415 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:33,528 and you've got a legitimate life. 416 00:18:33,571 --> 00:18:35,863 And you think to yourself, "ten kinds of hell 417 00:18:35,907 --> 00:18:38,032 "that I'm going to create if I go back 418 00:18:38,076 --> 00:18:40,409 and dig up this treasure." 419 00:18:40,495 --> 00:18:42,495 I mean, you're gonna really wreck your life, right? 420 00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:45,414 Because you might even go back to jail. 421 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,083 -Right. -It's true. 422 00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:49,001 Yeah, I'd go back. 423 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:52,130 - All right. 424 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,679 joaquin murrieta 425 00:18:59,722 --> 00:19:02,390 you know, the wild, wild west and the participants-- 426 00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:03,766 what were they? They were land pirates, really. 427 00:19:03,852 --> 00:19:05,351 -Yes. Yeah. -That's what they were. 428 00:19:05,395 --> 00:19:07,895 I mean, the same romantic ideas, 429 00:19:07,939 --> 00:19:11,440 the same sense of, "I'm thumbing my nose at the man." 430 00:19:11,526 --> 00:19:14,235 I mean, you went from an ocean environment 431 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,695 to a land environment. 432 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:17,071 -That is true. -I mean, these people 433 00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:19,532 were actually every bit as scheming, every bit 434 00:19:19,576 --> 00:19:23,911 as consumed by the "acquisition" of "ill-gotten gains." 435 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:25,371 it was rascally rogues. 436 00:19:25,415 --> 00:19:27,540 -Modern-day robin hoods. -Marty: Exactly. 437 00:19:27,584 --> 00:19:29,542 -Yup. -Was there one you gravitate to? 438 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:31,043 Was there one that stands out? 439 00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,921 I mean, the real-life zorro, if you will, 440 00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:36,591 is to me, a very interesting historical figure. 441 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:39,886 You know, he was an individual named joaquin murrieta. 442 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:43,764 He was kind of a cross between robin hood and 443 00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:45,391 zorro, right? 444 00:19:45,435 --> 00:19:46,809 The legends go that he would 445 00:19:46,895 --> 00:19:49,353 steal from the rich and give to the poor. 446 00:19:49,397 --> 00:19:52,064 It was less about the acquisition of treasure 447 00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,734 for himself and his gang than it was about, 448 00:19:54,777 --> 00:19:57,320 shall we call it, the "redistribution of wealth"? 449 00:19:57,405 --> 00:19:59,238 Right. Right, right. 450 00:19:59,282 --> 00:20:00,907 I think there's substance to that. 451 00:20:00,950 --> 00:20:02,783 Yeah, there's a... There's even a geographic area 452 00:20:02,827 --> 00:20:04,994 where they think that he buried the treasure. 453 00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:09,957 Narrator: High in the diablo mountain range, 454 00:20:10,001 --> 00:20:13,961 13 miles from coalinga, california, 455 00:20:14,005 --> 00:20:17,590 sit three ominous sandstone outcroppings 456 00:20:17,634 --> 00:20:20,509 known as the joaquin rocks. 457 00:20:20,595 --> 00:20:24,055 They're named for joaquin murrieta, 458 00:20:24,098 --> 00:20:28,768 the robin hood-type bandit who later served as the inspiration 459 00:20:28,811 --> 00:20:32,980 for the legendary character of zorro. 460 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:35,775 He's the inspiration for zorro, because in the process 461 00:20:35,818 --> 00:20:38,945 of hunting down those that did him wrong, 462 00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:41,656 he would take gold from those that had it 463 00:20:41,699 --> 00:20:43,407 and give it to needy people. 464 00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:46,702 And in mexico, "zorro" means "fox." 465 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:49,288 and they're very conniving, very smart. 466 00:20:49,332 --> 00:20:53,167 They normally have two or three pathways to escape. 467 00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:55,795 Narrator: But for legions of treasure hunters, 468 00:20:55,838 --> 00:20:58,339 joaquin was a gold miner turned outlaw 469 00:20:58,383 --> 00:21:00,591 who left behind a cache of god 470 00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:04,011 valued at more than four and a half million dollars. 471 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:07,473 And there are many who believe 472 00:21:07,517 --> 00:21:09,684 his gold still lies hidden 473 00:21:09,727 --> 00:21:12,311 somewhere near the three massive stone pillars 474 00:21:12,355 --> 00:21:13,854 that bear his name. 475 00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:17,191 Garza: Three rocks. 476 00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:19,652 If you get on top of those three rocks, 477 00:21:19,696 --> 00:21:21,821 you can see for miles and miles around. 478 00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:24,824 You can see people coming from 40, 50 miles away. 479 00:21:24,867 --> 00:21:28,369 It was very important to have a good lookout. 480 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:31,664 That's why they would keep all their gold there. 481 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:34,750 Narrator: The dramatic life of joaquin murrieta reads 482 00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:38,004 like it was ripped from the pages of an old western novel. 483 00:21:38,047 --> 00:21:41,257 No one can say for certain what is fact 484 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:43,926 and what is fiction. 485 00:21:44,012 --> 00:21:46,887 Garza: Actually, for every true fact 486 00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:50,099 that you find about joaquin, there's about five lies. 487 00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:53,060 Narrator: The story most generally agreed upon 488 00:21:53,104 --> 00:21:56,355 has murrieta migrating from mexico to california 489 00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:58,190 in the late 1840s 490 00:21:58,234 --> 00:22:00,026 to mine for gold. 491 00:22:00,069 --> 00:22:01,736 Hansen: When murrieta started, 492 00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:03,738 he was a cowhand, or a vaquer. 493 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:06,365 They were paid very poorly-- sometimes a dollar a day, 494 00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:08,200 sometimes two dollars a day. 495 00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:10,202 And so, he was tempted to go off 496 00:22:10,246 --> 00:22:11,954 and do something for quick money. 497 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,415 And the gold rush was huge 498 00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:16,375 in california, and especially huge 499 00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:19,587 for people who thought about easy money. 500 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:22,381 About 300,000 came out. 501 00:22:22,425 --> 00:22:24,967 They're all hoping to get rich, and some of them did get rich. 502 00:22:25,053 --> 00:22:28,512 Narrator: Joaquin and his older brother, jesus, 503 00:22:28,556 --> 00:22:31,265 reportedly amassed a fortune in gold. 504 00:22:33,269 --> 00:22:36,270 But jealous american prospectors attacked them, 505 00:22:36,314 --> 00:22:40,149 and falsely accused jesus of being a horse thief. 506 00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:42,151 Garza: His older brother was lynched. 507 00:22:44,447 --> 00:22:45,738 Joaquin came out to defend him, 508 00:22:45,782 --> 00:22:48,616 and they horsewhipped him. 509 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:54,455 his wife also came out to help him, 510 00:22:54,499 --> 00:22:57,750 and then, they knocked her down on the floor, 511 00:22:57,794 --> 00:23:00,503 stripped her of her clothes and gang-raped her. 512 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,630 42 of them. 513 00:23:02,673 --> 00:23:05,341 And then, she bled to death. 514 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,927 Joaquin wanted to file a complaint. 515 00:23:07,970 --> 00:23:10,471 And they got the sheriff, and the sheriff told him, 516 00:23:10,515 --> 00:23:12,139 "can't do anything for you." 517 00:23:12,183 --> 00:23:14,100 they wouldn't give him justice. 518 00:23:14,143 --> 00:23:16,852 They told him to forget it. 519 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:20,398 Narrator: But joaquin murrieta did not forget it. 520 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:22,817 Instead, he made a fateful decision-- 521 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:26,112 to devote his life to avenging the murders 522 00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:28,322 of his wife and brother. 523 00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:31,158 Garza: Joaquin got together with his brothers, 524 00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:32,660 his cousins and his neighbors, 525 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:34,662 and they were gonna get justice. 526 00:23:34,705 --> 00:23:38,749 Of the 42 that gang-raped his wife, he got 41 of them. 527 00:23:38,793 --> 00:23:41,794 And in the process, when they killed them, 528 00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:44,505 they stole their gold, and they became outlaws. 529 00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:46,298 And once they were outlaws, 530 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:49,718 everything was... Fair game. 531 00:23:49,804 --> 00:23:53,681 Narrator: Murrieta and his band of desperados 532 00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:56,642 rode through the san joaquin and sacramento valleys, 533 00:23:56,686 --> 00:23:59,520 serving up vigilante justice 534 00:23:59,564 --> 00:24:01,105 as they saw fit. 535 00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:05,234 In doing so, this masked troop 536 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,361 not only became mexican folk heroes. 537 00:24:07,447 --> 00:24:11,657 They also accumulated vast sums of gold. 538 00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:13,367 Garza: This guy stole 539 00:24:13,411 --> 00:24:16,078 over four and a half million dollars worth of gold. 540 00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:19,874 He did more than jesse james, billy the kid, 541 00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:22,376 all those other people all wrapped up together. 542 00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:24,712 They couldn't even pull up his socks. 543 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:26,881 Narrator: The local authorities 544 00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:29,008 were powerless to stop the thefts. 545 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:32,595 Eventually, they called upon the newly-formed 546 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,889 california rangers. 547 00:24:34,932 --> 00:24:38,517 The governor of california offered a $1,000 cash reward 548 00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:41,020 for joaquin murrieta, an amount 549 00:24:41,063 --> 00:24:45,191 that would be worth more than $200,000 in today's currency. 550 00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:47,568 Gamino: The california rangers, 551 00:24:47,612 --> 00:24:49,695 under the direction of captain harry love, 552 00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:53,908 were a posse of semi-quasi law enforcers 553 00:24:53,951 --> 00:24:56,035 that hunted and killed. 554 00:24:56,078 --> 00:25:00,164 Most of the outlaws that he looked for were turned in dead. 555 00:25:02,627 --> 00:25:06,462 Narrator: For months, murrieta and his gang evaded capture 556 00:25:06,547 --> 00:25:09,256 in the isolated mountains near the present-day city of fresno, 557 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:14,094 where some say they buried their treasure. 558 00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:16,764 They knew that they were being surrounded 559 00:25:16,807 --> 00:25:20,476 by captain love and his army. 560 00:25:21,979 --> 00:25:26,148 They needed to get rid of the gold, and they hid it. 561 00:25:26,234 --> 00:25:29,360 Narrator: Eventually, the california rangers 562 00:25:29,403 --> 00:25:31,946 kidnapped murrieta's brother-in-law. 563 00:25:31,989 --> 00:25:34,907 They tortured him until he gave up the location 564 00:25:34,951 --> 00:25:36,659 where the gang was hiding. 565 00:25:44,502 --> 00:25:48,420 Sandoval: Right here in this riverbed is where they claim 566 00:25:48,464 --> 00:25:51,966 captain love killed and beheaded 567 00:25:52,009 --> 00:25:54,260 joaquin murrieta. 568 00:25:54,303 --> 00:25:57,638 Narrator: To prove that joachin was actually dead, 569 00:25:57,682 --> 00:26:00,432 his head was preserved in a jar of alcohol 570 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:02,935 and exhibited throughout california, 571 00:26:02,979 --> 00:26:06,105 where viewers paid one dollar apiece to see it. 572 00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:10,109 Some people, however, insisted that joaquin murrieta 573 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:14,363 did not die, and that another bandit's head was on display. 574 00:26:14,448 --> 00:26:17,866 They believed that murrieta escaped capture 575 00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:21,495 and made his way safely back to sonora, mexico. 576 00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:25,040 Some say the famous joaquin murrieta was never killed, 577 00:26:25,126 --> 00:26:28,335 and died of old age in mexico. 578 00:26:28,421 --> 00:26:32,006 He never came back to three rocks, as he planned, 579 00:26:32,049 --> 00:26:35,134 to dig his gold and take it back to mexico. 580 00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:38,637 And so, this is why the story of his treasure 581 00:26:38,681 --> 00:26:42,099 is still spoken of today. 582 00:26:42,143 --> 00:26:45,060 I think this guy's pretty cool, right? 583 00:26:45,146 --> 00:26:47,313 I mean, this is really interesting because 584 00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:48,981 what was he, really? 585 00:26:49,025 --> 00:26:52,651 Was he robin hood, or was he just robbin'? 586 00:26:52,695 --> 00:26:54,737 That's true with a lot of these stories, I've noticed, too, 587 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:57,406 that on one perspective, there's a group of people that say 588 00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,366 "they were a hero who helped our people." 589 00:26:59,452 --> 00:27:00,993 and there's another group of people that say, "nope, 590 00:27:01,037 --> 00:27:03,162 just an outlaw who was taking things..." 591 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,873 well, matty, our own founding fathers were either 592 00:27:05,916 --> 00:27:08,250 our founding fathers, or they were traitors. 593 00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:11,587 Right? I mean, what's ben franklin's famous quote? 594 00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:13,005 "we must all hang together, 595 00:27:13,049 --> 00:27:15,215 or we will surely all hang separately." 596 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:18,385 -yeah. -Because to the british government, 597 00:27:18,471 --> 00:27:19,887 they were certainly traitors; that's what they were. 598 00:27:19,930 --> 00:27:21,597 I think I'll agree with that. 599 00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:26,602 it's over, gary. The war is over. 600 00:27:34,737 --> 00:27:36,320 they almost come up as myths. 601 00:27:36,364 --> 00:27:38,322 The deaths themselves of these people are often 602 00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:42,868 shrouded in legend and lore, and, you know, 603 00:27:42,912 --> 00:27:45,120 we don't want these legends to die a lot of times. 604 00:27:45,164 --> 00:27:46,830 Marty: No, we don't. 605 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:48,666 Well, the reality is that they don't die. 606 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:50,376 As we would not be sitting 607 00:27:50,419 --> 00:27:51,794 -around this table discussing. -Yeah. 608 00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:53,462 Marty: Which brings me back to my key thing, 609 00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:55,339 whether there's a treasure or not. Right? 610 00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:57,925 If joaquin died and his head's in the jar, 611 00:27:57,968 --> 00:27:59,927 then I think his treasure's out there. 612 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:03,263 If he escaped and was living it up in mexico, 613 00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:04,556 he probably took it with him. 614 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,933 Same with butch cassidy. 615 00:28:05,976 --> 00:28:09,144 I mean, there's stories now that he survived 616 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:12,523 the bolivian shootout, and he lived his days in the u.S. 617 00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:14,566 That's what people want to believe. 618 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:17,403 And now you're going to bring that story back to life. 619 00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:18,904 And it would be fantastic if 620 00:28:18,948 --> 00:28:20,614 there really is something at robbers roost. 621 00:28:20,658 --> 00:28:23,033 I believe there is, mate. And if you see me come back 622 00:28:23,077 --> 00:28:24,451 riding a bike, 623 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:28,414 singing "raindrops keep falling on my head," 624 00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:31,125 - you'll know I found it. - -Yeah. 625 00:28:31,168 --> 00:28:33,210 -go get 'em, buddy. -Go get 'em. -All right, mate. 626 00:28:33,254 --> 00:28:35,379 -Marty: See you, gary. -Gary: See you later, chaps. 627 00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:45,097 gary: This is way out in the boonies for me. 628 00:28:45,141 --> 00:28:46,765 Bill: Well, we're not off the pavement yet. 629 00:28:46,809 --> 00:28:49,017 Were you born and raised around here, bill? 630 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,854 Yeah. So I was born in utah. 631 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:53,897 Actually, fillmore, utah. 632 00:28:53,941 --> 00:28:55,399 Then I had a lot of family in circleville, 633 00:28:55,443 --> 00:28:58,152 where butch actually lived, when I was a boy. 634 00:28:58,195 --> 00:28:59,778 Narrator: Bill betenson, 635 00:28:59,822 --> 00:29:02,281 great-grandnephew of butch cassidy, 636 00:29:02,324 --> 00:29:04,908 has spent 40 years retracing every step 637 00:29:04,952 --> 00:29:06,577 cassidy ever took. 638 00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:08,370 Bill: Butch cassidy, 639 00:29:08,414 --> 00:29:09,955 he's my great-great-uncle. 640 00:29:09,999 --> 00:29:12,541 His younger sister was my great-grandmother. 641 00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:15,127 So I got to grow up hearing stories 642 00:29:15,171 --> 00:29:17,838 from my great-grandmother talking about her brother. 643 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,132 My earliest memories are going to the premiere 644 00:29:20,176 --> 00:29:21,759 of the famous movie. 645 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,385 And I remember watching that, thinking, 646 00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:25,554 "this is the coolest." 647 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:29,558 and so I just continued to dig into it because of my interest. 648 00:29:29,602 --> 00:29:33,270 Narrator: Having grown up with colorful tales 649 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:36,315 of his ancestor's exploits, bill is convinced that 650 00:29:36,358 --> 00:29:38,692 even though butch cassidy may have returned 651 00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:40,068 from south america, 652 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:43,030 his hidden treasure may still lie buried 653 00:29:43,073 --> 00:29:46,909 somewhere near cassidy's hideout in southern utah. 654 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:50,162 Bill: He had three key hideouts. 655 00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:53,373 But in visiting those three hideouts, 656 00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:56,418 robbers roost is probably the best hideout. 657 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:01,632 I mean, it's remote from civilization. 658 00:30:01,675 --> 00:30:04,927 Obscure and well protected. 659 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,137 It takes a lot of effort to get there. 660 00:30:09,016 --> 00:30:11,892 Even today, it hasn't really been disturbed a whole lot. 661 00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:15,395 So to me, that would be a great place to hide a cache of gold. 662 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:16,772 And there may have been reasos 663 00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,649 that they couldn't get back to it. 664 00:30:18,692 --> 00:30:22,778 Well, I was brought up on all these old western movies, 665 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:25,447 -and this is like a dream come true for me. -Yeah. 666 00:30:25,491 --> 00:30:29,910 Coming in to butch cassidy and the sundance kid territory. 667 00:30:29,954 --> 00:30:34,998 Narrator: Bill betenson is taking gary to robbers roost. 668 00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:38,794 Although the area has been searched many times 669 00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:40,796 by professional treasure hunters, 670 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,131 bill is hoping that gary's state-of-the-art 671 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:45,843 metal detector can yield new evidence 672 00:30:45,886 --> 00:30:48,470 that not only did the wild bunch use the area 673 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:50,389 as the gang's hideout, 674 00:30:50,432 --> 00:30:53,141 but also that their incredible fortune in gold 675 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:56,353 might still be buried nearby. 676 00:30:56,397 --> 00:30:58,272 Beautiful countryside. 677 00:30:58,315 --> 00:31:00,816 And with the chance of finding 678 00:31:00,860 --> 00:31:03,777 something connected to butch cassidy. 679 00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:08,615 Narrator: Tucked between the green, dirty devil and colorado rivers, 680 00:31:08,659 --> 00:31:10,951 robbers roost boasts tough terrain 681 00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:12,369 that could be easily defended, 682 00:31:12,413 --> 00:31:15,163 and was near impossible to navigate 683 00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:18,208 unless you were familiar with the area. 684 00:31:18,252 --> 00:31:20,586 Gary: Sweet. So we've got the chance 685 00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,754 of finding some gold coins. 686 00:31:22,798 --> 00:31:25,048 Butch liked to deal in gold over currency 687 00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:27,676 because it was untraceable. 688 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,345 Now, those gold coins are probably gonna be 689 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:32,180 the larger gold coins. 690 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:35,434 The eagles, which is a ten-dollar gold coin. 691 00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:38,645 Or the double eagles, $20 gold coins. 692 00:31:38,689 --> 00:31:40,522 Bill: Yeah, that's what I always heard about. 693 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,774 It's the $20 double eagles. 694 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:46,278 Yeah, the story is that they used to use 695 00:31:46,322 --> 00:31:50,824 $20 gold pieces as gaming chips. 696 00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:54,620 gary: I mean, there's got to be some there. 697 00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,205 Bill: That would be cool to find. That's for sure. 698 00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:06,048 Gary: Wow, look at this. 699 00:32:06,091 --> 00:32:13,138 Bill: All right, let's go find some gold coins. 700 00:32:17,478 --> 00:32:20,145 Bill: All right, let's go find some gold coins. Gary: Wow, this is really, really rough terrain. 701 00:32:20,189 --> 00:32:22,230 Bill: Yeah, it's really rugged 702 00:32:22,316 --> 00:32:23,482 and you could die out here. 703 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:25,150 Gary: The first thing 704 00:32:25,194 --> 00:32:28,195 that came into my mind 705 00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:32,532 when we stepped out of the car at robbers roost was, "wow. 706 00:32:34,244 --> 00:32:37,412 I cannot believe this site is here." 707 00:32:37,498 --> 00:32:40,165 you're driving up and all of a sudden, 708 00:32:40,209 --> 00:32:43,752 you're in robbers roost, with all that history. 709 00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:46,880 So this down here is some of the carvings 710 00:32:46,924 --> 00:32:48,757 I wanted to show you. 711 00:32:50,386 --> 00:32:52,719 Narrator: Carved into the stone walls that stand above 712 00:32:52,763 --> 00:32:56,390 a natural spring are the names of a few of the hardy souls 713 00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,558 who previously visited the site. 714 00:33:00,604 --> 00:33:01,853 Pearl baker. 715 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:04,147 She carved her name in 1920. 716 00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:09,236 And she wrote, of course, the wild bunch at robbers roost. 717 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,239 So she documented a lot of the history of the outlaws. 718 00:33:12,282 --> 00:33:14,616 -That's pretty amazing, mate. -Yeah. 719 00:33:15,703 --> 00:33:17,035 Narrator: Bill leads gary 720 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,121 deep into the canyon, 721 00:33:19,206 --> 00:33:21,707 where they come upon the only structure still standing 722 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,209 from the days of the wild bunch. 723 00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:26,837 Bill: So, here's the chimney. 724 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,839 Man. That is awesome. 725 00:33:30,426 --> 00:33:34,261 Fantastic that it's still standing. 1890s. 726 00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:37,556 We might find some buried treasure around here, 727 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:41,268 because you don't bury stuff far from your cabin. 728 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:42,936 -Okay. -I'm telling you, mate, 729 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:44,604 -we're gonna find something good here. -All right. 730 00:33:47,151 --> 00:33:51,111 Narrator: Using a minelab ctx 3030 metal detector 731 00:33:51,155 --> 00:33:52,612 capable of scanning to depths 732 00:33:52,656 --> 00:33:55,615 of as much as three feet deep underground, 733 00:33:55,659 --> 00:33:58,618 gary methodically combs the barren landscape 734 00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:01,788 close to where butch cassidy's cabin once stood. 735 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,417 gary: You have to grid a site out. 736 00:34:05,461 --> 00:34:07,502 You can't just meander around. 737 00:34:07,588 --> 00:34:11,506 It has to be a nice box pattern. 738 00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:14,509 So, if it makes a two-way repeatable signal, 739 00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:15,886 I'm digging it. 740 00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:24,227 ooh. 741 00:34:24,271 --> 00:34:25,937 that sounds good. 742 00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,106 It's reading two inches. 743 00:34:28,150 --> 00:34:31,234 Just there, mate. So, if you could dig that out. 744 00:34:34,782 --> 00:34:36,865 Butch cassidy would have never believed 745 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:38,825 one of his descendants 746 00:34:38,911 --> 00:34:41,161 would be digging, looking for his treasure. 747 00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:53,465 you know what that is, mate? 748 00:34:53,509 --> 00:34:56,760 That is a little horseshoe nail. 749 00:34:56,804 --> 00:35:00,347 - Bill: Yeah. Shoeing their horses. -Yep. 750 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:05,393 That-that's your typical 1800s horseshoe nail. 751 00:35:05,479 --> 00:35:06,895 Yeah, it's got a lot of corrosion, 752 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:08,855 so it's definitely old. 753 00:35:08,899 --> 00:35:11,817 -This little nail is a piece of history. -Yeah. 754 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:14,194 This is what leads you to treasure. 755 00:35:14,238 --> 00:35:16,029 Well, great, yeah, let's keep going. 756 00:35:16,073 --> 00:35:18,990 Gary: Those little iron nails tell us 757 00:35:19,034 --> 00:35:21,326 that those guys were really there, 758 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:26,248 because those horseshoe nails are from the late 1800s. 759 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,542 They're the exact things 760 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:31,086 you want to be finding at that site. 761 00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:33,630 I'm gonna make my turnaround here. 762 00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:50,230 just down there, mate. 763 00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:52,065 I'll try to pinpoint it, so I'll cut down 764 00:35:52,109 --> 00:35:54,568 on the digging for you. 765 00:36:02,953 --> 00:36:04,119 I got it. 766 00:36:05,205 --> 00:36:06,913 It's an oldie as well, by the look at it. 767 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,790 Is that an oldie, mate? 768 00:36:08,876 --> 00:36:12,085 You were telling me about those long cartridges. 769 00:36:12,129 --> 00:36:14,504 Bill b: It is. It's a .40-60. That is old. 770 00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:16,423 Very cool. 771 00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:18,258 How old do you think that is, mate? Is that the period... 772 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:20,927 Yeah, that's the period of butch's time, yeah. 773 00:36:21,013 --> 00:36:23,972 So that, that could've been fired 774 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,558 by butch cassidy or one of the gang members. 775 00:36:26,602 --> 00:36:28,560 Yeah. 776 00:36:28,604 --> 00:36:30,187 - Very good. -sweet! 777 00:36:31,315 --> 00:36:33,273 Bill: The .40-60 was invented 778 00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:37,402 for the winchester model 1876, and that's the same gun 779 00:36:37,446 --> 00:36:39,321 that teddy roosevelt used. 780 00:36:39,406 --> 00:36:42,240 So yeah, that was pretty cool to find that, for sure. 781 00:36:42,284 --> 00:36:44,576 That's almost as good as a double eagle. 782 00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,120 That is nice. A little piece of history. 783 00:36:47,164 --> 00:36:49,122 That is really cool, man. 784 00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:51,958 That's worth the trip for me, right there. 785 00:36:52,044 --> 00:36:54,294 just to find that. That is cool. 786 00:36:54,338 --> 00:36:57,088 Gary: I know people have visited the site, 787 00:36:57,132 --> 00:37:00,050 and it's had a lot of diggers through the years. 788 00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:03,136 So if you can find an artifact, what that means 789 00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:07,140 is there's a lot of loot to be recovered in that area. 790 00:37:07,184 --> 00:37:12,520 You still stand a chance of finding treasure. 791 00:37:12,606 --> 00:37:15,482 It's not until I've held those old bullets 792 00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,317 and those horseshoe nails in my hand 793 00:37:17,361 --> 00:37:19,945 -that I'm convinced there's treasure here. -Yeah. 794 00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:22,781 And that's what we came here looking for. 795 00:37:22,824 --> 00:37:26,660 And looking around, it's-it's a daunting task. 796 00:37:26,703 --> 00:37:28,870 -Yeah. -We'd have to put some serious time in. 797 00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:30,538 Spend weeks here, 798 00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:32,624 and do an extensive search of the area. 799 00:37:32,668 --> 00:37:35,627 There has got to be more here. I know there's more here. 800 00:37:35,671 --> 00:37:37,087 -Yeah. -For sure. 801 00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:39,172 All right, mate, it's been fun, but we've probably, 802 00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:41,174 you know, got to bite the bullet and leave. 803 00:37:41,218 --> 00:37:43,009 it has been fun. 804 00:37:43,053 --> 00:37:45,387 You're gonna be seeing me again. 805 00:37:45,472 --> 00:37:47,764 I'm looking forward to it. 806 00:37:55,857 --> 00:37:58,400 there he is. Hello, gary. How in the heck are you? 807 00:37:58,443 --> 00:37:59,943 I am fantastic. 808 00:38:01,405 --> 00:38:03,113 rick: So, gary, you know the history, 809 00:38:03,156 --> 00:38:05,115 you know the lore. 810 00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:06,992 You know the reason why you're there. 811 00:38:07,035 --> 00:38:08,660 But for me, the key question is, 812 00:38:08,704 --> 00:38:11,246 does it actually feel like you're walking 813 00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:13,748 backwards into time? 814 00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,961 Yeah. What is bloody cool is you are with bill betenson, 815 00:38:18,005 --> 00:38:21,464 one of butch cassidy's descendants. 816 00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:26,052 You pick up this old winchester rifle shell 817 00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:29,097 and you put it in the hand of bill 818 00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:33,143 and you could see the emotional connection. 819 00:38:33,186 --> 00:38:35,061 That's worth the trip for me, right there. 820 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:37,022 Gary, that's-that's very cool. 821 00:38:37,065 --> 00:38:38,898 Here's another question, though. 822 00:38:38,942 --> 00:38:41,443 Do you or bill feel like 823 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:43,945 there still is a treasure to be found out there? 824 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:46,072 Yeah. Bill-bill and I 825 00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:48,533 both believe there's treasure there. 826 00:38:48,577 --> 00:38:50,118 But it does occur to me 827 00:38:50,162 --> 00:38:52,412 that if the shells are still there, 828 00:38:52,456 --> 00:38:54,956 then the area must not have been worked too extensively 829 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,375 by metal detectors such as yourself. 830 00:38:57,419 --> 00:39:00,628 Which means that the treasure could still be there, too, 831 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,381 because those shells would have been picked up previously. 832 00:39:03,425 --> 00:39:05,091 -Exactly, marty. -Yeah. 833 00:39:05,135 --> 00:39:07,218 You know, gary, it strikes me that, you know, 834 00:39:07,262 --> 00:39:11,056 you might be, eminently capable of finding something 835 00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:14,059 that's been missed in the previous years. 836 00:39:14,102 --> 00:39:15,643 Yeah, because when I first went there, 837 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,063 I just went for the good targets. 838 00:39:18,106 --> 00:39:20,315 That was only one area. 839 00:39:20,359 --> 00:39:22,776 It's not till you walk in that canyon, 840 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:24,319 and I'm thinking to myself, 841 00:39:24,363 --> 00:39:25,653 "there's so many places 842 00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:27,947 to hide gold coins there." 843 00:39:27,991 --> 00:39:29,991 I don't think you just bury I. 844 00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:31,826 You don't think they wouldn't have had 845 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:35,288 a stash of gold coins in those canyon walls? 846 00:39:37,459 --> 00:39:39,834 When you look around those canyon walls, 847 00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:41,795 you see all those cubbyholes. 848 00:39:41,838 --> 00:39:45,340 The treasure is probably hiddn 849 00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:50,512 in some crack or hole in the canyon walls. 850 00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:55,975 I am certain we can find some gold in robbers roost. 851 00:39:56,019 --> 00:39:58,853 Wow, guys. I mean, gary, y-you sound really certain, 852 00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:01,523 and when you're certain on something, 853 00:40:01,566 --> 00:40:03,858 I know that these guys get very excited. 854 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,652 - Absolutely. 855 00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,028 we've got to go back. 856 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:11,825 hey, gary, informative as always, 857 00:40:11,868 --> 00:40:14,702 and an emotional boost, as always, as well. 858 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:17,205 So thanks a lot, and we will be in touch. 859 00:40:17,249 --> 00:40:18,706 -Thanks a lot. -Matty: See you, buddy. 860 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,583 -Thanks, gary. -See you, gary. -See you, mates. 861 00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:22,794 There you have it. I mean, an excited gary drayton. 862 00:40:22,838 --> 00:40:24,212 A positive gary drayton. 863 00:40:24,256 --> 00:40:26,631 He sounds like that treasure has been stashed. 864 00:40:26,675 --> 00:40:29,509 And how cool is it, we've got gary, 865 00:40:29,553 --> 00:40:32,387 you know, literally working with a direct descendent 866 00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:33,805 -of an american legend? -Marty: Yeah. 867 00:40:33,849 --> 00:40:36,224 -That alone is remarkable. Yes. -Right? 868 00:40:36,268 --> 00:40:38,601 -Agreed. -Rick: Yeah. What's interesting 869 00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:41,688 about this is here you're taking modern science 870 00:40:41,731 --> 00:40:46,776 and you're literally using that like a time-traveling machine. 871 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:49,070 -Yeah. -Right? He's applying modern science 872 00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:52,490 and literally walking back in time to-to revisit that. 873 00:40:52,534 --> 00:40:54,701 -I mean, that's pretty cool. -Yes. 874 00:40:54,744 --> 00:40:56,202 Marty: Yeah, and I think we probably only scratched 875 00:40:56,246 --> 00:40:57,954 -the surface. -That's what I think. 876 00:40:57,998 --> 00:40:59,539 Marty: That sort of lawless time 877 00:40:59,583 --> 00:41:01,916 in the united states history... 878 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,544 - Yeah. -...In-- you know, a lot of stuff 879 00:41:04,588 --> 00:41:07,005 moved back and forth and a lot of plundering and a lot of-- 880 00:41:07,048 --> 00:41:09,716 probably things that nobody even knows about. 881 00:41:09,759 --> 00:41:12,135 - Yeah. -But, I'll bet there are a lot of them out there. 882 00:41:12,179 --> 00:41:13,595 Rick: I agree. I-I think 883 00:41:13,638 --> 00:41:15,722 there's stories out there that need to be unearthed. 884 00:41:15,765 --> 00:41:17,307 No pun intended. 885 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:19,559 And I-I think there are a lot of treasure stories. 886 00:41:19,603 --> 00:41:23,021 - And, I look forward to looking into them. -Matty: Yeah. 887 00:41:23,064 --> 00:41:24,564 In a way, you know, this... When we embarked 888 00:41:24,608 --> 00:41:27,775 on this little oak island a-adventure-- 889 00:41:27,819 --> 00:41:30,153 rick has remarked on this and he's absolutely right-- 890 00:41:30,197 --> 00:41:32,572 the way these treasure hunts are intertwined 891 00:41:32,616 --> 00:41:34,908 with historical events is really remarkable. 892 00:41:34,951 --> 00:41:36,910 You know, I-it's almost as if 893 00:41:36,953 --> 00:41:39,287 they're a driver somehow of what's happening. 894 00:41:39,331 --> 00:41:42,790 You know, this-this quest for treasure, at the time, 895 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,126 drives history, or is it the other way around? 896 00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:47,045 I don't know, but they're certainly intertwined. 897 00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:49,297 -Yeah, it's a quest for truth. -Yeah. 898 00:41:49,341 --> 00:41:51,174 Once again, guys, this was awesome. 899 00:41:51,218 --> 00:41:53,051 I can't wait for the next one. And I know you guys 900 00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:55,094 have a lot of work to do, so I'll let you get back to it. 901 00:41:55,138 --> 00:41:56,679 Well, come on out and get dirty. 902 00:41:56,723 --> 00:41:58,181 Let's do it. 903 00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:04,521 Captioning provided by a+e networks 85890

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