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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,833 --> 00:01:00,749 Okay, fellas, when you're ready. 2 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:02,083 Okay, fellas, get back in line. 3 00:01:02,167 --> 00:01:03,250 How did you people get back here? 4 00:01:03,333 --> 00:01:04,541 Come on. Come on. Sorry. 5 00:01:04,624 --> 00:01:05,875 Excuse me. Have you got a pen? 6 00:01:05,958 --> 00:01:07,167 I'm sorry, you can't come in here. 7 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:08,666 Get him out of here. You can't come in here. 8 00:01:08,749 --> 00:01:10,833 What are you doing? This is a private session! 9 00:01:12,624 --> 00:01:15,041 Thank you. 10 00:01:15,125 --> 00:01:18,583 Thank you very, very much. Good evening to all of you. 11 00:01:18,666 --> 00:01:19,875 Thank you. 12 00:03:13,250 --> 00:03:15,666 I am beginning to recognize the fact 13 00:03:15,749 --> 00:03:18,666 that nothing is true. 14 00:03:18,749 --> 00:03:20,499 Nothing. 15 00:03:20,583 --> 00:03:22,458 It's all down to perception. 16 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:26,375 My immediate family is gone. 17 00:03:26,458 --> 00:03:28,541 But that's life. 18 00:03:28,624 --> 00:03:30,208 It's the same thing with every family, 19 00:03:30,292 --> 00:03:32,292 that someone will be left in the end. 20 00:03:34,958 --> 00:03:36,916 And this time of life, 21 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,541 I have fantastic memories, 22 00:03:39,624 --> 00:03:41,875 but everybody's memory is different, 23 00:03:41,958 --> 00:03:44,499 so they're just my memories, you know? 24 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:48,000 I know that Maurice and Robin would've had 25 00:03:48,083 --> 00:03:50,541 a different kind of memory. 26 00:03:57,292 --> 00:03:59,208 I remember Barry saying that one day, 27 00:03:59,292 --> 00:04:01,250 we're gonna be really famous. 28 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:04,041 And we said, "yeah." You know, "whatever you say." 29 00:04:04,125 --> 00:04:06,541 He's the big brother, you know. 30 00:04:08,499 --> 00:04:10,083 We kind of saw ourselves as triplets 31 00:04:10,167 --> 00:04:12,250 rather than me and Maurice being twins, 32 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:14,749 and we always had the same goals growing up 33 00:04:14,833 --> 00:04:16,666 that it became impossible to see each other 34 00:04:16,749 --> 00:04:19,250 as normal brothers. 35 00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:20,916 My ninth Christmas, 36 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,958 there was an acoustic guitar at the end of my bed, 37 00:04:23,041 --> 00:04:25,083 and Robin and Maurice started to collaborate 38 00:04:25,167 --> 00:04:26,791 and pretend to sing with me, 39 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:30,333 and we started doing gigs as a teenage act. 40 00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:33,083 We emigrated as a whole family 41 00:04:33,167 --> 00:04:35,250 from england to Australia. 42 00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:37,083 All three of US had the same understanding 43 00:04:37,167 --> 00:04:38,417 that we were going to be famous 44 00:04:38,499 --> 00:04:39,958 come hell or high water. 45 00:04:47,167 --> 00:04:48,958 Our father, he had his own band, 46 00:04:49,041 --> 00:04:52,208 but it didn't work out, so he became our manager, 47 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,250 and it was a team. 48 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:54,749 There was US three and dad. 49 00:04:54,833 --> 00:04:56,125 And mum, of course. 50 00:04:56,208 --> 00:04:58,417 My mother, she was always the person 51 00:04:58,499 --> 00:05:00,791 who kept the calm between dad and US. 52 00:05:00,875 --> 00:05:03,417 Very strong, very loyal. 53 00:05:05,499 --> 00:05:06,958 The Beatles have just arrived 54 00:05:07,041 --> 00:05:08,833 for the first time in our country. 55 00:05:08,916 --> 00:05:10,375 When the Beatles came on the scene, 56 00:05:10,458 --> 00:05:13,250 it was like, "that's what we've been trying to do." 57 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:14,916 They turned pop music into an art form, 58 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,458 and they were singing threepart Harmony 59 00:05:16,541 --> 00:05:17,666 like we did. 60 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:19,083 So we made up our own minds 61 00:05:19,167 --> 00:05:22,125 that we were going back to be part of the British invasion. 62 00:05:22,208 --> 00:05:23,916 Making music was what we wanted to do 63 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,458 for the rest of our lives, 64 00:05:25,541 --> 00:05:27,499 so we thought, you know, whatever's going to happen, 65 00:05:27,583 --> 00:05:29,958 we'll make happen. 66 00:05:35,292 --> 00:05:37,083 Before we left Australia, 67 00:05:37,167 --> 00:05:39,167 we did an album called "spicks and specks," 68 00:05:39,250 --> 00:05:41,208 and they became our best demos. 69 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:47,708 Dad and I did the rounds, 70 00:05:47,791 --> 00:05:49,167 met with industry people, 71 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:50,708 and as we sat in everyone's office, 72 00:05:50,791 --> 00:05:52,292 they would say the same thing: 73 00:05:52,375 --> 00:05:55,000 "No, no, I'm sorry, lads. We can't help you." 74 00:05:55,083 --> 00:05:57,708 My dad, he was very, you know, "we gotta do this." 75 00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:00,000 Because my dad was really the most ambitious man, 76 00:06:00,083 --> 00:06:02,000 I think, in the gibb clan. 77 00:06:02,083 --> 00:06:03,250 We loved the Beatles, 78 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:05,624 so dad had sent this stuff to nems, 79 00:06:05,708 --> 00:06:08,292 the Brian Epstein offices. 80 00:06:08,375 --> 00:06:10,499 Brian Epstein, the man who built the Beatles 81 00:06:10,583 --> 00:06:11,833 into a cult, 82 00:06:11,916 --> 00:06:13,791 is now as wellknown as they are. 83 00:06:13,875 --> 00:06:17,167 I was doing Brian's mail most of the time. 84 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:18,875 There was a letter by the father 85 00:06:18,958 --> 00:06:22,666 of these three handsome, cute guys 86 00:06:22,749 --> 00:06:26,250 who were very proactive and who'd had some success. 87 00:06:26,333 --> 00:06:27,541 They came from Manchester, 88 00:06:27,624 --> 00:06:30,208 but they were writing from Australia. 89 00:06:30,292 --> 00:06:31,708 I showed it to him. 90 00:06:31,791 --> 00:06:33,875 Brian said, "yeah, yeah. That's very nice. No, nice." 91 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,833 He said, "well, give it to Robert." 92 00:06:36,958 --> 00:06:38,583 "He's Australian 93 00:06:38,666 --> 00:06:40,583 and he's good at these kind of things." 94 00:06:40,666 --> 00:06:41,749 Somebody sent you a tape 95 00:06:41,833 --> 00:06:43,541 of these boys from Australia? 96 00:06:43,624 --> 00:06:44,666 Yes, they did. 97 00:06:46,624 --> 00:06:50,708 I heard it, and I was absolutely astounded. 98 00:06:50,791 --> 00:06:52,708 It was the most brilliant Harmony singing 99 00:06:52,791 --> 00:06:54,875 and composing I'd ever heard. 100 00:07:14,333 --> 00:07:17,250 At the time, Robert was my manager. 101 00:07:17,333 --> 00:07:20,125 Cream was signed to Robert 102 00:07:20,208 --> 00:07:22,417 on what I thought was an exclusive deal. 103 00:07:22,499 --> 00:07:26,250 I was surprised that other bands were coming in. 104 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:29,833 Robert was so eccentric. 105 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:32,417 I mean, absolutely bonkers. 106 00:07:32,499 --> 00:07:35,875 He was Australian, but he spoke like an English gentleman, 107 00:07:35,958 --> 00:07:38,499 and he would wear these really big, flashy ties, 108 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:41,958 and he had a combover, and it was all 109 00:07:42,041 --> 00:07:43,624 who is this guy? 110 00:07:43,708 --> 00:07:46,083 Whoever this man was, he really believed in US. 111 00:07:46,167 --> 00:07:48,167 He was almost like a parent. 112 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:50,666 You can't deny talent, 113 00:07:50,749 --> 00:07:53,458 and the talent was so obvious. 114 00:07:58,666 --> 00:08:01,458 Somebody mentioned that the Bee Gees were in town. 115 00:08:01,541 --> 00:08:05,208 They were good friends of mine from Australia. 116 00:08:05,292 --> 00:08:07,624 So I phoned them up. 117 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:08,916 I said, "is Maurice there, then? 118 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,125 Put Maurice on." 119 00:08:10,208 --> 00:08:11,958 He said, "we've being signed up 120 00:08:12,041 --> 00:08:13,958 "by this guy called Robert stigwood. 121 00:08:14,041 --> 00:08:15,749 "We're doing this recording. 122 00:08:15,833 --> 00:08:18,083 Why don't you come and play guitar?" 123 00:08:18,167 --> 00:08:22,125 Caught a train into London and found ibc studios. 124 00:08:22,208 --> 00:08:23,499 So there they were. 125 00:08:23,583 --> 00:08:25,292 There were Barry, Robin, and Maurice 126 00:08:25,375 --> 00:08:28,000 and the drummer, Colin petersen. 127 00:08:28,083 --> 00:08:32,167 That night, my life changed completely. 129 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:34,083 Completely. 130 00:08:35,541 --> 00:08:36,499 The first evening we were in there, 131 00:08:36,583 --> 00:08:38,167 there was a blackout. 132 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:40,125 So while we were waiting for the power to come back on, 133 00:08:40,208 --> 00:08:41,125 we just sat on the steps, 134 00:08:41,208 --> 00:08:43,000 and Barry was playing his guitar. 135 00:08:43,083 --> 00:08:44,666 It was so echoey. 136 00:08:44,749 --> 00:08:47,167 I mean, it was a wonderful echo in this place. 137 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:48,666 There we were in the dark. 138 00:08:48,749 --> 00:08:50,041 The first thought was, "in the event 139 00:08:50,125 --> 00:08:51,208 of something happening to me." 140 00:08:55,708 --> 00:08:57,541 And we thought, "well, what could come from that?" 141 00:09:01,791 --> 00:09:02,958 We made believe we were in a mine. 142 00:09:26,624 --> 00:09:28,041 Because it was gonna be our first single, 143 00:09:28,125 --> 00:09:29,875 we wanted a title that captured the imagination, 144 00:09:29,958 --> 00:09:31,749 that got people's attention. 145 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:34,000 And "New York mining disaster" was born then. 146 00:09:34,083 --> 00:09:36,417 We had our first hit record within the first five months 147 00:09:36,499 --> 00:09:37,666 of being in england. 148 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:39,875 The thrill was that it did the same thing in america. 149 00:09:39,958 --> 00:09:41,499 We thought that we might get a hit in england, 150 00:09:41,583 --> 00:09:42,875 but we never dreamed that we might get a hit 151 00:09:42,958 --> 00:09:44,458 in england and america as well. 152 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,250 So I came over to the United States 153 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:53,417 to make a record deal for them. 154 00:09:53,499 --> 00:09:57,583 I made a decision to place the group with Atlantic. 155 00:10:00,541 --> 00:10:02,417 He said, "I'm taking you to meet ahmet ertegun 156 00:10:02,499 --> 00:10:05,250 and to get you into the American music scene." 157 00:10:05,333 --> 00:10:08,417 Otis Redding was playing at the Apollo. 158 00:10:08,499 --> 00:10:09,791 Ahmet ertegun and Robert stigwood 159 00:10:09,875 --> 00:10:11,708 took me down there to see Otis. 160 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:15,375 And it was amazing. 161 00:10:15,458 --> 00:10:17,958 Soul has always had a special place 162 00:10:18,041 --> 00:10:19,125 in the Bee Gees' music. 163 00:10:19,208 --> 00:10:20,916 We've always been influenced by black music. 164 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,208 Smokey Robinson, motown, 165 00:10:23,292 --> 00:10:25,250 all that was a big influence on US. 166 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:26,833 Robert introduced US. 167 00:10:26,916 --> 00:10:30,458 He said, "I want you to write a song for Otis Redding." 168 00:10:30,541 --> 00:10:32,458 "To love somebody" was born that night. 169 00:10:34,708 --> 00:10:36,583 But unfortunately, 170 00:10:36,666 --> 00:10:38,458 Otis never got to record the song. 171 00:11:03,208 --> 00:11:05,292 I mean, I must have always known 172 00:11:05,375 --> 00:11:06,958 "to love somebody," 173 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:10,000 'cause that song is just, like, in the ether. 174 00:11:10,083 --> 00:11:11,791 Those lyrics, "there's a certain kind of light 175 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:13,000 that never shone on me," 176 00:11:13,083 --> 00:11:14,666 like, I don't even know if he's talking about himself, 177 00:11:14,749 --> 00:11:17,125 but there was some point where I got obsessed, 178 00:11:17,208 --> 00:11:19,000 like, tracking down every cover version, 179 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:21,499 like Nina Simone, the animals. 180 00:11:21,583 --> 00:11:23,833 Some great singers have sung that song, obviously, 181 00:11:23,916 --> 00:11:26,208 but his vocal, when he sings it, 182 00:11:26,292 --> 00:11:28,499 I can still get chills thinking about it. 183 00:11:54,458 --> 00:11:58,041 I just remember this music being on, 184 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:00,041 and I'm like, "who's this?" 185 00:12:00,125 --> 00:12:03,375 And, "why, it's the Bee Gees." 186 00:12:03,458 --> 00:12:04,833 And I was like, "the Bee Gees?" 187 00:12:06,916 --> 00:12:08,749 It actually blew my mind. 188 00:12:08,833 --> 00:12:12,208 Those early records sound like the Beatles' early records. 189 00:12:15,916 --> 00:12:18,375 It's classic '60s guitar pop sound, 190 00:12:18,458 --> 00:12:19,749 but then it had another thing going on. 191 00:12:23,292 --> 00:12:25,167 You've got the brothers singing, 192 00:12:25,250 --> 00:12:27,167 and when you've got brothers singing, 193 00:12:27,250 --> 00:12:29,541 it's like an instrument that nobody else can buy. 194 00:12:40,875 --> 00:12:43,250 You can't go buy that sound in a shop. 195 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:44,499 You can buy a Fender stratocaster 196 00:12:44,583 --> 00:12:47,916 and put it through a vox amp and sound like buddy Holly. 197 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,417 You can't sing like the Bee Gees, 198 00:12:49,499 --> 00:12:50,583 because when you've got 199 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:52,125 family members singing together, 200 00:12:52,208 --> 00:12:53,708 it's unique. 201 00:12:53,791 --> 00:12:56,875 It's the blend of the tones of each brother. 202 00:12:56,958 --> 00:13:00,250 And Robin had this wonderful, tearjerking voice. 203 00:13:04,541 --> 00:13:06,250 Robin was a joyous kid. 204 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:08,083 Hysterically funny. 205 00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:10,749 He took great joy in being on television. 206 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,167 This was the funniest kid you could ever meet. 207 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:14,958 My father always used to call him the nanny goat. 208 00:13:15,041 --> 00:13:16,791 'Cause Robin would go... 209 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:18,458 He'd be rehearsing in the back of the car, 210 00:13:18,541 --> 00:13:19,791 you know, doing all these phases 211 00:13:21,708 --> 00:13:22,958 and he'd go, "shut up! 212 00:13:23,041 --> 00:13:24,250 You sound like a bloody nanny goat." 213 00:13:34,916 --> 00:13:37,458 Robin was always a bit of a loner. 214 00:13:37,541 --> 00:13:39,666 I like being spontaneous. 215 00:13:39,749 --> 00:13:40,833 I like being funny with people, 216 00:13:40,916 --> 00:13:43,292 but you won't get that right away with me, you see. 217 00:13:43,375 --> 00:13:46,125 Robin had a wit that no one could compete with. 218 00:13:46,208 --> 00:13:47,833 And he could be very dark too. 219 00:13:51,375 --> 00:13:52,833 Robin is not a person who would say, 220 00:13:52,916 --> 00:13:54,167 "I love my brothers," 221 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:56,292 or, "group hug." 222 00:13:56,375 --> 00:13:57,583 You know, none of that stuff. 223 00:13:57,666 --> 00:13:59,375 I'm basically a very shy person. 224 00:13:59,458 --> 00:14:01,167 I'm very hard to get to know. 225 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:05,000 I have to really know somebody before I reveal myself. 226 00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:19,499 You know, I mean, that's the voice. 227 00:14:19,583 --> 00:14:22,333 That's the voice that reaches your heart. 228 00:14:27,583 --> 00:14:29,333 We did a show at the saville theatre, 229 00:14:29,417 --> 00:14:32,167 and Paul McCartney was there with Jane Asher, 230 00:14:32,250 --> 00:14:33,458 because Robert had said, 231 00:14:33,541 --> 00:14:35,708 "would you come and see the boys?" 232 00:14:35,791 --> 00:14:36,708 When you think that 233 00:14:36,791 --> 00:14:39,333 five months before all this was going on, 234 00:14:39,417 --> 00:14:42,499 I was in pitt street buying up the beatle fan club book, 235 00:14:42,583 --> 00:14:45,250 and now here I am partying with these guys. 236 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:47,333 We felt like we'd arrived. 237 00:14:47,417 --> 00:14:49,666 Now I'm living out in highgate outside London. 238 00:14:49,749 --> 00:14:51,875 Barry's got a place in eaton square. 239 00:14:51,958 --> 00:14:53,875 Robin's got a house in St. George's hill, 240 00:14:53,958 --> 00:14:55,041 beautiful area. 241 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:57,541 And mum and dad had their own place, 242 00:14:57,624 --> 00:15:00,083 and, of course, Andy lived with them. 243 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:01,708 He was just like US, 244 00:15:01,791 --> 00:15:03,541 and he was always tagging along, 245 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:06,041 hoping that one day, he would do this too. 246 00:15:06,125 --> 00:15:07,541 He would like to sing. 247 00:15:07,624 --> 00:15:09,666 There was a lot of hits in that short time, 248 00:15:09,749 --> 00:15:11,083 you know, and after all the work 249 00:15:11,167 --> 00:15:13,000 we had done through clubs and everything, 250 00:15:13,083 --> 00:15:14,666 I felt grown up, you know, 251 00:15:14,749 --> 00:15:16,208 so we made the most of it. 252 00:15:16,292 --> 00:15:18,292 Very talented group of men, the Bee Gees. 253 00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:20,458 Once again, the fabulous Bee Gees. 254 00:15:20,541 --> 00:15:22,125 Here they are, and get involved with the Bee Gees. 255 00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:23,125 Here they are. 256 00:15:29,375 --> 00:15:30,499 By then, we were flying, 257 00:15:30,583 --> 00:15:33,541 you know, just the most amazing experience. 258 00:15:42,666 --> 00:15:43,708 As a pop group, 259 00:15:43,791 --> 00:15:45,749 this was the biggest moment of our lives. 260 00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:47,250 Never expected. 261 00:15:47,333 --> 00:15:50,083 Hoped for but never really expected. 262 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,458 Then came "Massachusetts." 263 00:16:06,541 --> 00:16:08,791 Robin said, "I've got this idea for a song." 264 00:16:08,875 --> 00:16:10,666 He sang the melody, 265 00:16:10,749 --> 00:16:13,541 and I just remember our jaws dropping. 266 00:16:51,916 --> 00:16:55,000 For me, they connected from very early on. 267 00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:57,624 "Massachusetts" is probably the first song, 268 00:16:57,708 --> 00:16:59,541 I think, that really resonates. 269 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:03,958 There is a gospel quality to it. 270 00:17:04,041 --> 00:17:06,666 There is a folk quality to it. 271 00:17:06,749 --> 00:17:09,624 I didn't know where the hell Massachusetts was, 272 00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:11,041 but I found myself singing that 273 00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:15,167 and translating it to where I was from. 274 00:17:15,250 --> 00:17:16,417 Robert runs up and he goes, 275 00:17:16,499 --> 00:17:18,833 "'Massachusetts' has just gone to number one." 276 00:17:18,916 --> 00:17:20,000 We went, "what?" 277 00:17:20,083 --> 00:17:22,000 To have a number one in england, 278 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,875 you have no idea how much we dreamed of this 279 00:17:23,958 --> 00:17:24,875 back in Australia. 280 00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:38,875 "Massachusetts" from the Bee Gees. 281 00:17:38,958 --> 00:17:41,041 I met the Bee Gees at "top of the pops." 282 00:17:41,125 --> 00:17:42,541 I was young. 283 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:45,167 Was I 16? Maybe I was even 17. 284 00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:48,041 Top pop girl in america, top pop girl in britain, 285 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:49,583 the one and only Lulu. 286 00:17:58,624 --> 00:18:02,083 The Bee Gees were always in the studio. 287 00:18:02,167 --> 00:18:03,708 They were always recording. 288 00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:06,583 They would literally go into the studio 289 00:18:06,666 --> 00:18:08,208 and start writing. 290 00:18:08,292 --> 00:18:11,417 I had never known anything like that before. 291 00:18:11,499 --> 00:18:12,958 We don't usually write our lyrics 292 00:18:13,041 --> 00:18:14,791 till the day we sing them. 293 00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:17,250 We usually write our lyrics in the studio itself. 294 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,417 That seems to work through thick and thin. 295 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,250 It always works for US. 296 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,791 It's very hard to describe how we write, 297 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,292 but the only way I can describe 298 00:18:25,375 --> 00:18:28,041 how we work at it is by becoming one mind. 299 00:18:28,125 --> 00:18:30,208 Maurice had unique insight 300 00:18:30,292 --> 00:18:32,083 into the way Robin and I thought. 301 00:18:33,791 --> 00:18:35,958 He would just be fiddling around on the piano. 302 00:18:36,041 --> 00:18:38,417 He'd suddenly play something, and, 303 00:18:38,499 --> 00:18:39,541 "what was that?" 304 00:18:39,624 --> 00:18:41,624 He was trying to please US 305 00:18:41,708 --> 00:18:44,167 and the way that we would all try to please each other, 306 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:46,833 and that sometimes was the birth of a song. 307 00:18:46,916 --> 00:18:48,000 All of a sudden, we'll wake each other's 308 00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:49,958 little instincts up and the melodies come. 309 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:52,499 It's wonderful when you hear it taking shape. 310 00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:53,791 Then it all blossoms. 311 00:18:53,875 --> 00:18:55,458 The third verse is four bars. 312 00:18:55,541 --> 00:18:56,958 It's rolling. 313 00:18:57,041 --> 00:18:58,833 They'd say, "okay, we're ready to roll," right? 314 00:18:58,916 --> 00:19:00,791 And they'd play the song, and I'd work the chords out. 315 00:19:00,875 --> 00:19:02,125 Colin would figure out 316 00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:03,916 what he's gonna do on the drums. 317 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,583 They'd say, "right, here we go. 318 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:07,125 Let's go. Bang, bang, bang." 319 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:08,167 Down it went. 320 00:19:10,541 --> 00:19:14,791 And that spontaneity came out in the songs. 321 00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,916 In those days, you knocked an album out in three weeks. 322 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,167 I think we had three albums out in one year. 323 00:19:32,208 --> 00:19:33,833 When we went to Europe, 324 00:19:33,916 --> 00:19:36,499 there'd always be a big bunch of kids outside 325 00:19:36,583 --> 00:19:38,167 waiting for US to arrive. 326 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:39,833 It was a frightening time, 327 00:19:39,916 --> 00:19:42,375 because they crawled all over the Mercedes. 328 00:19:42,458 --> 00:19:45,292 They were on the roof. They were at the window. 329 00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:47,208 It was crazy. 330 00:19:47,292 --> 00:19:48,583 "Hey, guys. 331 00:19:48,666 --> 00:19:50,958 Do you think we're famous? Could be." 332 00:19:54,125 --> 00:19:55,375 The Bee Gees, 333 00:19:55,458 --> 00:19:58,333 the most exciting sound in the world. 334 00:20:09,916 --> 00:20:12,167 If you've never been famous, 335 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:13,583 the first time it happens, 336 00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:15,875 it's a very difficult thing to handle. 337 00:20:15,958 --> 00:20:17,541 You don't know how to behave. 338 00:20:17,624 --> 00:20:19,167 You don't know how to experience it. 339 00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:22,375 And that affected all of US in its own way. 340 00:20:24,125 --> 00:20:26,417 I had six rollsroyces before I was 21. 341 00:20:26,499 --> 00:20:27,749 I don't know where they are now. 342 00:20:28,833 --> 00:20:30,375 But I mean, that's how crazy it was. 343 00:20:30,458 --> 00:20:33,125 We were all very selfish at that point. 344 00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:35,833 The testosterone kicked in, 345 00:20:35,916 --> 00:20:38,041 and the competition of life began. 346 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:54,083 There was always a conflict between Barry and Robin 347 00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:56,749 'cause they both had fantastic voices 348 00:20:56,833 --> 00:20:58,708 and Robin wanted to sing the song 349 00:20:58,791 --> 00:21:00,041 and Barry wanted to sing it. 350 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,624 Both of US wanted to be individual performers. 351 00:21:12,708 --> 00:21:14,916 We all wanted individual recognition. 352 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,583 And therein lies the issue. 353 00:21:22,417 --> 00:21:26,083 I'm speaking to you from a club in Hamburg, 354 00:21:26,167 --> 00:21:27,791 and I'm Barry gibb of the Bee Gees. 355 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:29,083 Robin here. 356 00:21:29,167 --> 00:21:30,958 Robin, we've heard rumors that the group is splitting up. 357 00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:32,458 Would you like to verify those rumors? 358 00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:33,749 If I was to say that was true, 359 00:21:33,833 --> 00:21:35,749 then I would be the premier of Russia. 360 00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:37,125 I don't know. 361 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,250 Thank you very much, Mr. Petersen. 362 00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:39,333 How about you, Mr. Melouney? 363 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:40,791 No. I don't think it is. 364 00:21:40,875 --> 00:21:43,250 No. No. No. 365 00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:50,125 I always say that making music 366 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,666 with your family 367 00:21:52,749 --> 00:21:55,916 is equally the greatest strength 368 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,791 and the greatest weakness you could ever have 369 00:21:57,875 --> 00:21:59,833 in a musical partnership. 370 00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,958 To get to the top or near the top, 371 00:22:04,041 --> 00:22:06,250 you've gotta be incredibly driven, 372 00:22:06,333 --> 00:22:09,167 and what drives you is your ego. 373 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:10,666 And when you get there 374 00:22:10,749 --> 00:22:12,958 and everybody's got an ego about it, 375 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:15,375 it can be tricky to stay there. 376 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:30,041 The three of US stopped looking inwards to each other 377 00:22:30,125 --> 00:22:31,958 and all started looking outwards 378 00:22:32,041 --> 00:22:34,666 to what we could be individually. 379 00:22:34,749 --> 00:22:36,833 "To hell with what my brothers think." 380 00:22:36,916 --> 00:22:39,499 And each one of US was thinking that. 381 00:22:46,083 --> 00:22:47,292 To travel the world when you're young 382 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:48,458 with a family member 383 00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:50,875 gives you a certain sense of who you are 384 00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:52,958 and where you've come from and all that. 385 00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:56,167 So you kind of walk that tightrope. 386 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,208 We'd been together all our lives, don't forget. 387 00:22:58,292 --> 00:22:59,875 We'd been together since Robin and I were five, 388 00:22:59,958 --> 00:23:01,417 singing professionally. 389 00:23:01,499 --> 00:23:02,749 You know, it's a lot of years. 390 00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:05,041 We'd been kids living together with each other 391 00:23:05,125 --> 00:23:06,708 right up until the time we arrived 392 00:23:06,791 --> 00:23:09,375 and even after we arrived in england. 393 00:23:14,458 --> 00:23:15,708 Robin was first to say, 394 00:23:15,791 --> 00:23:18,541 "well, I'm quitting the group." 395 00:23:18,624 --> 00:23:22,499 I stopped really knowing Robin 396 00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:26,250 and his personal life once we became famous. 397 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:27,708 And the same with mo. 398 00:23:27,791 --> 00:23:31,375 Our three lives were three different lives. 399 00:23:31,458 --> 00:23:33,666 We were no longer living the same life. 400 00:23:40,791 --> 00:23:42,208 Brothers... 401 00:23:42,292 --> 00:23:44,749 In general, it's a very complicated thing, 402 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:46,875 you know? 403 00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:48,208 Emotions are heightened, 404 00:23:48,292 --> 00:23:52,167 and there's things that go back to childhood about, you know, 405 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:54,833 if one kid got more attention than the other, 406 00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:56,708 and all these things play out 407 00:23:56,791 --> 00:23:58,541 in front of just a small group of friends, 408 00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:00,875 but when you magnify that with the whole world, 409 00:24:00,958 --> 00:24:02,791 it changes the game a little bit. 410 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,875 Robin, that's a good picture. 411 00:24:04,958 --> 00:24:07,583 That's you, Barry, Colin, Vince. 412 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,749 That's correct, yes. Do you miss 'em? 413 00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:11,125 Well, it's not really a matter 414 00:24:11,208 --> 00:24:12,458 of missing them, really. 415 00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:14,083 But I still see them on and off, you know, 416 00:24:14,167 --> 00:24:16,125 so that's the way things go. 417 00:24:16,208 --> 00:24:18,000 I'll show you the studio anyway. 418 00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:24,624 It was really me and Robin that were in conflict, 419 00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:26,624 and I think Maurice was in the middle. 420 00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:28,458 Story of my life, really. 421 00:24:28,541 --> 00:24:29,499 Barry would call me up and say, 422 00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:30,666 "well, can you call Robin and tell him 423 00:24:30,749 --> 00:24:31,791 if he wants to do this?" 424 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:33,125 And Robin would go, "well, give Barry a call 425 00:24:33,208 --> 00:24:34,292 and let him know that I'm gonna be over." 426 00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:35,624 I said, "Robin, you call Barry." 427 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:36,958 "Barry, you call Robin." 428 00:24:37,041 --> 00:24:39,125 And they both said, "no, we won't." 429 00:24:39,208 --> 00:24:41,000 And for 18 months, they never did. 430 00:24:41,083 --> 00:24:42,833 We had this fascination 431 00:24:42,916 --> 00:24:46,250 with calling the newspapers up. 432 00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:49,417 You called "nme" or you called "disc" or "music echo" 433 00:24:49,499 --> 00:24:50,791 and you'd say... 434 00:24:50,875 --> 00:24:52,583 "Robin said this about me, and I just wanna be able 435 00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:55,167 to correct the record," and all that stuff. 436 00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:57,583 It was a whole strange episode of our lives, 437 00:24:57,666 --> 00:25:00,292 but a lot of things had gone down at that time, 438 00:25:00,375 --> 00:25:04,000 and we needed time apart to think about them. 439 00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:06,541 At caxton hall, vip transport 440 00:25:06,624 --> 00:25:09,208 for very important pop star Barry gibb. 441 00:25:09,292 --> 00:25:10,333 He's getting married 442 00:25:10,417 --> 00:25:12,167 to 20yearold former miss Edinburgh 443 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:13,833 Linda gray. 444 00:25:16,417 --> 00:25:18,708 Their world was crazy at that time. 445 00:25:18,791 --> 00:25:20,833 You know, at one time, there was three brothers, 446 00:25:20,916 --> 00:25:24,167 and then all of a sudden, it was three wives. 447 00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,000 Maurice gibb and Lulu became Mr. and Mrs. 448 00:25:27,083 --> 00:25:28,791 At St. James' parish church 449 00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:31,333 at gerrards cross in buckinghamshire. 450 00:25:31,417 --> 00:25:34,541 You think, by marrying someone 451 00:25:34,624 --> 00:25:37,375 that you absolutely adore, 452 00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,708 you think it's gonna solve all your problems, 453 00:25:39,791 --> 00:25:42,499 but really... At caxton hall, 455 00:25:42,583 --> 00:25:45,083 Robin gibb of the Bee Gees marries Molly hullis. 456 00:25:46,458 --> 00:25:48,541 Molly was my first real love. 457 00:25:48,624 --> 00:25:50,417 The first serious one. 458 00:25:50,499 --> 00:25:52,375 But it was a very traumatic time for me. 459 00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:57,583 I went with my manager. 460 00:25:57,666 --> 00:25:59,000 He said, "look, Robin, 461 00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,583 I'm gonna send you to New Zealand." 462 00:26:00,666 --> 00:26:03,666 He says, "you're doing the redwood park festival." 463 00:26:03,749 --> 00:26:04,833 So I went there, and of course, 464 00:26:04,916 --> 00:26:06,583 it was advertised that the Bee Gees were coming, 465 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,041 not just Robin gibb, you see. 466 00:26:11,791 --> 00:26:13,833 All right. Okay. 467 00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:16,208 How'd you feel last night? 468 00:26:16,292 --> 00:26:17,583 I have an obligation to my audience 469 00:26:17,666 --> 00:26:19,041 not to look scared, and... 470 00:26:19,125 --> 00:26:22,250 I can't say I really felt scared. 471 00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:23,458 I was terrified. 472 00:26:37,791 --> 00:26:40,041 All three of US became isolated, 473 00:26:40,125 --> 00:26:44,083 and all three of US did things to each other 474 00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:46,083 that I think we're all sorry for. 475 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,083 We loved each other. 476 00:26:50,167 --> 00:26:52,624 There was an enormous amount of love between US. 477 00:26:52,708 --> 00:26:54,749 Growing up, we did everything together. 478 00:26:54,833 --> 00:26:57,375 We often thought we were triplets. 479 00:26:57,458 --> 00:27:00,125 Because we all had the same love. 480 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:01,208 We had the same sense of humor. 481 00:27:01,292 --> 00:27:03,375 We had the same love of the same kind of music. 482 00:27:03,458 --> 00:27:05,458 Just typical kids, you know? 483 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,958 But the one thing that no one else was doing 484 00:27:08,041 --> 00:27:09,458 was that we were singing in Harmony, 485 00:27:09,541 --> 00:27:12,250 and beyond anything else, that's all we cared about. 486 00:27:14,583 --> 00:27:16,916 We fell in love with the mills brothers. 487 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,958 They all did something unique in their own way. 488 00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:20,958 And at the same time, 489 00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:23,000 Robin and I did two different leads, 490 00:27:23,083 --> 00:27:25,666 and Maurice would always know where to put that other melody 491 00:27:25,749 --> 00:27:27,000 to make a threepart Harmony. 492 00:27:27,083 --> 00:27:29,791 They mirrored what we wanted to be. 493 00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,458 Do you find you miss Robin and Maurice musically? 494 00:27:32,541 --> 00:27:33,624 Yeah. 495 00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,749 Not musically. 496 00:27:35,833 --> 00:27:38,292 I miss them both as brothers. 497 00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,749 Something about entering the world 498 00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,125 from the same place, I think, has an effect 499 00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,916 on your ability to sing together, 500 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,541 your creative awareness, and your artistic voice. 501 00:27:49,624 --> 00:27:52,875 Could we see the Bee Gees back together again? 502 00:27:52,958 --> 00:27:56,167 That's a very strong point that it could be. 503 00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:57,333 I can't say definitely, 504 00:27:57,417 --> 00:27:59,875 but I'd like to see the Bee Gees again. 505 00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:05,375 Mr. Epstein has been unwell now for some months. 506 00:28:05,458 --> 00:28:07,458 And he's been in the habit of taking tablets 507 00:28:07,541 --> 00:28:09,208 to help him sleep at night. 508 00:28:09,292 --> 00:28:11,292 He was found in his secondfloor bedroom 509 00:28:11,375 --> 00:28:14,167 just after 2:00 this afternoon by his housekeeper. 510 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:17,666 When Brian died and we restructured nems, 511 00:28:17,749 --> 00:28:19,333 Robert asked to become 512 00:28:19,417 --> 00:28:21,000 a more important senior executive 513 00:28:21,083 --> 00:28:22,833 for the Beatles, 514 00:28:22,916 --> 00:28:24,708 and that wasn't acceptable to them, 515 00:28:24,791 --> 00:28:28,250 so he then left the company 516 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:31,875 and took with him Eric Clapton and Bee Gees 517 00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:33,833 so he could start off on his own. 518 00:28:33,916 --> 00:28:35,208 We were an asset. 519 00:28:35,292 --> 00:28:37,041 We were one of those people Robert needed 520 00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:39,041 as an element of going public. 521 00:28:40,791 --> 00:28:42,375 It was at the launching of the company 522 00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:43,958 where we started to communicate again. 523 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:47,916 And once we came back together again, 524 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,666 we wrote "lonely days," 525 00:28:49,749 --> 00:28:52,875 which reflected the idea that we'd been broken up. 526 00:28:52,958 --> 00:28:56,708 We'd always been boys going up together, 527 00:28:56,791 --> 00:28:59,208 and I think we came back together as men. 528 00:28:59,292 --> 00:29:01,292 We respected each other's opinions, 529 00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:02,875 which we didn't before that. 530 00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:06,208 If anything, that was the good thing 531 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:07,666 about the breakup. 532 00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:14,875 I had already started a first verse and chorus. 533 00:29:14,958 --> 00:29:17,250 I knew what "how can you mend a broken heart?" Was, 534 00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:19,125 but then Robin walks in. 535 00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:21,250 I said, "I'm just working on this song. 536 00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:22,624 Do you wanna do it with me?" 537 00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:23,958 And he went, "yeah, of course." 538 00:29:29,499 --> 00:29:31,458 We'd been apart for two years. 539 00:29:31,541 --> 00:29:32,624 If we hadn't been brothers, 540 00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:34,208 we wouldn't have lasted half an hour. 541 00:29:34,292 --> 00:29:36,250 It just wouldn't have happened. 542 00:29:44,958 --> 00:29:48,583 Things started to just improve over time, you know? 543 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:54,292 We became the Bee Gees again. 544 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:08,749 We came back together, and we made 545 00:30:08,833 --> 00:30:10,417 two number one records in america, 546 00:30:10,499 --> 00:30:12,083 so we were on a bit of a high. 547 00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:17,292 But we were not really that good 548 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,958 when it came to just doing anything without a pill, 549 00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:22,791 you know, or without a drink. 550 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,125 It was destroying US. 551 00:30:26,541 --> 00:30:29,333 And that became the battle, 552 00:30:29,417 --> 00:30:31,833 the fight to survive being a pop group. 553 00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:50,292 Thank you very, very much on behalf of my brothers, 554 00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:56,083 Robin and Maurice, 556 00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:59,417 and this beautiful orchestra, 557 00:30:59,499 --> 00:31:03,208 our lead guitarist, Alan Kendall... 558 00:31:03,292 --> 00:31:04,333 Robert stigwood said, 559 00:31:04,417 --> 00:31:06,333 "the Bee Gees are gonna go on a tour, 560 00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:08,666 and they want a guitar player who can play bass as well," 561 00:31:08,749 --> 00:31:10,666 'cause in those days, 562 00:31:10,749 --> 00:31:14,791 Maurice played bass, but he would go on piano sometimes. 563 00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:18,499 And so I called him and I said, "well, I can't play bass," 564 00:31:18,583 --> 00:31:21,000 and he said, "just say you can play bass," 565 00:31:21,083 --> 00:31:23,083 so I said, "okay, I can play bass." 566 00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:29,250 I'll be honest, I was very much into the lifestyle. 567 00:31:29,333 --> 00:31:30,541 I just loved being on the road. 568 00:31:30,624 --> 00:31:33,083 I loved playing music, chasing women. 569 00:31:34,833 --> 00:31:36,000 Maurice is so funny, 570 00:31:36,083 --> 00:31:38,041 'cause he was good at magic tricks, 571 00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:41,208 and he'd like to drink a little, as I did. 572 00:31:41,292 --> 00:31:43,250 Robin, I never really knew. 573 00:31:43,333 --> 00:31:46,583 I mean, I'd converse with him but not as much as the others. 574 00:31:46,666 --> 00:31:48,916 And I would bump into him every now and then 575 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,875 wandering the corridors of the hotel. 576 00:31:51,958 --> 00:31:55,041 And there's Barry with his glamorous wife 577 00:31:55,125 --> 00:31:57,083 smoking a bowl, you know? 578 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,916 My early days with the Bee Gees 579 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,791 were, for me, thrilling, 580 00:32:03,875 --> 00:32:06,375 even though I can understand why it wasn't for them, 581 00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:08,958 'cause they weren't necessarily selling out. 582 00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:12,916 When we were broken up, 583 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,958 the world changed radically very quickly. 584 00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:17,749 And that was the beginning of the period 585 00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:20,583 when there was just no interest in US at all. 586 00:32:20,666 --> 00:32:22,292 Remember, we were on tour. 587 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:23,875 They'd try to keep Robin 588 00:32:23,958 --> 00:32:25,708 from looking out into the audience, 589 00:32:25,791 --> 00:32:27,916 in case it was only half full. 590 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,541 When we got back home, I turned to more drinking. 591 00:32:30,624 --> 00:32:33,583 I'd go to the pubs. The police knew my car. 592 00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:36,583 I was becoming the town drunk. 593 00:32:36,666 --> 00:32:38,624 I mean, I think I had about 2 grand in the bank 594 00:32:38,708 --> 00:32:40,833 and lived next order to a fish and chips shop. 595 00:32:40,916 --> 00:32:42,916 So by '74, 596 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,292 we didn't think there was gonna be much of a future. 597 00:32:46,375 --> 00:32:48,958 When you become famous, you think everyone loves you 598 00:32:49,041 --> 00:32:50,250 and they're gonna love you forever, 599 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:51,624 and it's not true. 600 00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,292 All of a sudden now, we had to work the clubs 601 00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:59,208 at the north of england to pay the taxman, 602 00:32:59,292 --> 00:33:01,083 so we had the sheffield fiesta, 603 00:33:01,167 --> 00:33:02,458 the golden garter in Manchester, 604 00:33:02,541 --> 00:33:04,292 batley variety club, 605 00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,083 great clubs of our time. 606 00:33:06,167 --> 00:33:07,749 The batley thing, 607 00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:10,125 it's where all the hasbeens went to play, 608 00:33:10,208 --> 00:33:11,624 and not saying that they were hasbeens, 609 00:33:11,708 --> 00:33:14,292 but it was like, "god, not batley," you know? 610 00:33:16,417 --> 00:33:19,375 I was a waitress at the batley variety club. 611 00:33:19,458 --> 00:33:23,499 I really wasn't a fan of the Bee Gees. 612 00:33:23,583 --> 00:33:25,708 The only thing I knew about them was, 613 00:33:25,791 --> 00:33:26,791 you know, Maurice was mar 614 00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:29,541 well, he was going through a divorce with Lulu. 615 00:33:29,624 --> 00:33:33,041 Yvonne came in, and I saw her eyes. 616 00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:34,292 I don't know about the rest of her. 617 00:33:34,375 --> 00:33:36,000 I just saw her eyes. 618 00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:39,000 And I said, "I'm gonna marry her." 619 00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:41,583 And I knew I was gonna marry her. 620 00:33:41,666 --> 00:33:43,125 He was so cute. 621 00:33:43,208 --> 00:33:45,833 His personality was amazing. 622 00:33:45,916 --> 00:33:47,624 Maurice had this childlike quality, 623 00:33:47,708 --> 00:33:50,333 which is something very special in men. 624 00:33:50,417 --> 00:33:53,708 He loved dressing up in police uniforms. 625 00:33:53,791 --> 00:33:55,875 Wherever we went on tour, 626 00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:57,708 they'd give him a hat, give him a badge. 627 00:33:57,791 --> 00:33:58,791 Is that his wallet? It's a badge. 628 00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:00,333 Whoa! 629 00:34:00,417 --> 00:34:02,666 What was that? I'm not showing you now. 630 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:04,041 People loved him. 631 00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:05,875 He had the best smile ever. 632 00:34:05,958 --> 00:34:09,375 I remember him teaching me the showbiz smile, 633 00:34:09,458 --> 00:34:10,875 and he said, "well, the trick is, 634 00:34:10,958 --> 00:34:13,250 "you don't move your eyes 635 00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,583 and you just go like this." 636 00:34:17,458 --> 00:34:19,000 And I'll be honest with you, 637 00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:22,208 I think Maurice was the glue that held it all together. 638 00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,000 I'm Mr. Fixit. 639 00:34:24,083 --> 00:34:27,083 Either some discrepancy between Barry and Robin, 640 00:34:27,167 --> 00:34:28,916 or if we're gonna make a decision about something, 641 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,375 "well, what does Maurice think?" 642 00:34:30,458 --> 00:34:33,708 But most of the time, I'm like my mum. 643 00:34:33,791 --> 00:34:34,916 I'm the peacemaker. 644 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,708 You know, if they'd not been brothers, 645 00:34:36,791 --> 00:34:38,875 they would not be together. 646 00:34:38,958 --> 00:34:41,250 No doubt in my mind. 647 00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,250 I met the Gibbs when they were on a bit of a 648 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,125 shall we say, a downturn in their career. 649 00:34:50,208 --> 00:34:51,624 Robert stigwood made me, 650 00:34:51,708 --> 00:34:53,624 unaccountably, the head of his record label. 651 00:34:53,708 --> 00:34:55,916 I was only 21 years old. 652 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,417 I truly believed it was because I was 653 00:34:57,499 --> 00:34:59,791 the only guy in the room that I got the job. 654 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:00,916 It was odd to me because I thought, 655 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,041 "if they can write those songs, 656 00:35:02,125 --> 00:35:03,791 how come they can't be consistent?" 657 00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:05,083 If you got the ability to write 658 00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:06,250 "how can you mend a broken heart?" 659 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,541 And "to love somebody," 660 00:35:07,624 --> 00:35:09,583 where does that talent go? 661 00:35:09,666 --> 00:35:13,208 I mean, there was two albums in a row that were dismal. 662 00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:15,292 Ahmet ertegun said to Robert, 663 00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:17,250 "you know, maybe their time has gone," 664 00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:18,749 'cause it was Atlantic who were paying 665 00:35:18,833 --> 00:35:19,958 for these recordings, 666 00:35:20,041 --> 00:35:22,250 and Robert wouldn't hear of it, of course. 667 00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:24,125 He would never let the Bee Gees go. 668 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:27,833 There was this thing about stigwood 669 00:35:27,916 --> 00:35:31,417 stigwood and his loyalties. 670 00:35:31,499 --> 00:35:33,666 I had a kind of deepseated resentment 671 00:35:33,749 --> 00:35:37,458 about the fact that, you know, they were still 672 00:35:37,541 --> 00:35:38,499 his favorite. 673 00:35:42,417 --> 00:35:44,833 I had come out of a long period 674 00:35:44,916 --> 00:35:46,624 of addiction and alcoholism, 675 00:35:46,708 --> 00:35:49,583 and I went into the sort of recovery period. 676 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:54,292 All these musical ambitions came to the surface, 677 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,666 so I went to Miami to record. 678 00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:02,125 We had a conversation with Eric 679 00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:03,958 about making a comeback. 680 00:36:04,041 --> 00:36:05,167 Eric said, "well, I've just made this album 681 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:07,749 "called '461 ocean boulevard' in Miami. 682 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,333 "Why don't you guys make an album in america 683 00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,499 "instead of always making an album in england, 684 00:36:11,583 --> 00:36:13,417 "and maybe the change of environment 685 00:36:13,499 --> 00:36:15,666 will do something for you?" 686 00:36:15,749 --> 00:36:18,041 The studio there was unbelievable, 687 00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:21,666 and I think that's what 688 00:36:21,749 --> 00:36:23,833 the suggestion was about, really. 689 00:36:23,916 --> 00:36:27,833 I thought those guys were actually an R&B band 690 00:36:27,916 --> 00:36:30,541 that hadn't really worked that out yet. 691 00:36:30,624 --> 00:36:32,833 And I thought, "man, this would be so good 692 00:36:32,916 --> 00:36:36,000 if they could pick up on what's going on in america." 693 00:36:36,083 --> 00:36:39,624 I do know that they had to change something. 694 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:40,833 That's when the whole idea 695 00:36:40,916 --> 00:36:43,958 of actually being more of a band together 696 00:36:44,041 --> 00:36:45,125 rather than, you know, 697 00:36:45,208 --> 00:36:47,499 musicians and orchestras and all that stuff. 698 00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:51,375 Alan Kendall, who was a friend of mine, 699 00:36:51,458 --> 00:36:54,624 said, "the Bee Gees are looking for a drummer. 700 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:56,916 You know, are you interested?" 701 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,708 And I went, "yes." 702 00:36:59,791 --> 00:37:02,624 "I think I'm interested. Yeah. I am interested." 703 00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:05,208 We needed to get more energized 704 00:37:05,292 --> 00:37:06,708 and don't rely so much 705 00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:09,083 on the ballads that we had been doing. 706 00:37:09,167 --> 00:37:12,041 We wanted to be a band so bad, 707 00:37:12,125 --> 00:37:14,041 and that was basically the birth of it. 708 00:37:14,125 --> 00:37:16,875 We had a great bass player, Maurice. 709 00:37:16,958 --> 00:37:19,041 We had a great guitar player, Alan. 710 00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:20,541 So really, the only thing we needed 711 00:37:20,624 --> 00:37:22,375 was a keyboard player, 712 00:37:22,458 --> 00:37:24,375 and I thought, "blue." 713 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,708 Dennis called and said, 714 00:37:32,791 --> 00:37:34,375 "look, you know, I'm putting a band together 715 00:37:34,458 --> 00:37:35,624 "with the Bee Gees, 716 00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:39,167 "and I've spoken to Barry, and everybody's in agreement. 717 00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:40,916 Are you interested?" 718 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,749 I said, "no. No. 719 00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:45,916 I'm having great fun. I'm in a rock and roll band." 720 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,708 Queen was our support act. 721 00:37:47,791 --> 00:37:50,749 I'm touring america and living the rock and roll life. 722 00:37:57,958 --> 00:38:01,041 We'd grown up together playing in bands in Cardiff. 723 00:38:01,125 --> 00:38:02,417 I said, "we've known each other 724 00:38:02,499 --> 00:38:03,541 for a long time, right?" 725 00:38:03,624 --> 00:38:06,333 He said, "den, don't do this to me." 726 00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:08,417 And I said, "I am doing it to you." 727 00:38:08,499 --> 00:38:10,541 I said, "just do me one favor: 728 00:38:10,624 --> 00:38:12,417 "Meet Barry. 729 00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:15,791 "And after you've met Barry, if you don't wanna do it, 730 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:17,624 I'll leave you alone." 731 00:38:19,208 --> 00:38:21,292 Maurice and I had moved to the Isle of Man, 732 00:38:21,375 --> 00:38:22,958 which is where we were born. 733 00:38:23,041 --> 00:38:25,916 Blue was the guy who was gonna come to the Isle of Man 734 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,167 and audition for US on piano. 735 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,583 We were staying in Barry's house, 736 00:38:34,666 --> 00:38:37,624 and it was Linda, and then Maurice came over 737 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,292 and huey, the father. 738 00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:43,000 Instantly, you feel comfortable with them. 739 00:38:43,083 --> 00:38:45,417 They started talking about synthesizers 740 00:38:45,499 --> 00:38:49,749 and moogs, and blue had them all. 742 00:38:49,833 --> 00:38:51,583 There's the sunday evening I was leaving, 743 00:38:51,666 --> 00:38:55,083 and huey said, "hey, we haven't heard you play." 744 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,833 But my piano was so bad 745 00:38:58,916 --> 00:39:02,000 that he played something and it just sounded awful. 746 00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:04,624 It was just, like, totally embarrassing. 747 00:39:04,708 --> 00:39:07,000 I said, "sounds fine to me, man. 748 00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,292 Let's do it," you know? 749 00:39:08,375 --> 00:39:10,000 Barry offered him the job. 750 00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:12,208 I'd always loved the music, 751 00:39:12,292 --> 00:39:14,666 but the first time you ever hear the Bee Gees 752 00:39:14,749 --> 00:39:16,499 just when they're in a room like this, 753 00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:18,167 you know, it's just magic. 754 00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:20,833 I think that's what won me over with them. 755 00:39:20,916 --> 00:39:22,083 I said yes, 756 00:39:22,167 --> 00:39:25,167 and January the 1st, we left. 757 00:39:51,583 --> 00:39:53,250 Miami's a gateway city, 758 00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,041 but in those days, it was kind of sleepy. 759 00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:59,333 You know, a little off the beaten path. 760 00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:01,916 But in the winter, that was the place to be, 761 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,875 so Atlantic records would always book their acts 762 00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:06,541 down at criteria. 763 00:40:08,666 --> 00:40:10,250 I was about the number three engineer 764 00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:11,375 at the studio. 765 00:40:11,458 --> 00:40:12,499 I worked my way up, 766 00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:14,833 and I was at that point in my career 767 00:40:14,916 --> 00:40:17,167 where I was ready for anything. 768 00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:26,791 When we got to Miami, all of a sudden, sunshine, 769 00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:28,708 and, you know? 770 00:40:28,791 --> 00:40:30,458 This is paradise. 771 00:40:30,541 --> 00:40:31,541 We'd come from england, 772 00:40:31,624 --> 00:40:34,083 and so there was nothing sleepy about america. 773 00:40:34,167 --> 00:40:36,250 Put them in the same house I'd rented for Eric Clapton, 774 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,417 461 ocean boulevard. 775 00:40:38,499 --> 00:40:39,958 I think the first thing all of US did was 776 00:40:40,041 --> 00:40:41,958 take pictures against that palm tree, you know, 777 00:40:42,041 --> 00:40:44,250 doing the Eric Clapton pose. 778 00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:48,541 Being in that house together, 779 00:40:48,624 --> 00:40:50,292 you know, we were creative, 780 00:40:50,375 --> 00:40:51,292 and we were a family. 781 00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,083 I mean, I felt like that. 782 00:40:53,167 --> 00:40:55,041 It did make US close. 783 00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:58,041 I mean, you had to be. And we'd all watch TV at night. 784 00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:00,083 The chemistry was very exciting. 785 00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:01,292 When you got up in the morning, 786 00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:02,958 you went to breakfast; You had a cup of tea. 787 00:41:03,041 --> 00:41:05,833 It was all very relaxed. 788 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:13,624 It was strange, considering the amount of pressure 789 00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,083 that was really on the Bee Gees at that time. 790 00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:17,541 They were about to drop US. 791 00:41:17,624 --> 00:41:19,417 We had to adopt a new sound. 792 00:41:19,499 --> 00:41:21,167 We had to adopt a new attitude. 793 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:23,624 So the next step was, we brought arif mardin in 794 00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:24,791 to produce them. 795 00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:30,125 We'd often work with other people, 796 00:41:30,208 --> 00:41:31,499 but they weren't producers, 797 00:41:31,583 --> 00:41:34,000 and this man was a literal producer. 798 00:41:34,083 --> 00:41:36,417 They had expressed how much they wanted to do 799 00:41:36,499 --> 00:41:38,250 American R&B kind of stuff, 800 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:41,000 and arif was, you know, top of the heap for that. 801 00:41:41,083 --> 00:41:44,208 Arif was so instrumental in producing black artists, 802 00:41:44,292 --> 00:41:45,666 and we wanted that input. 803 00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:54,333 We actually did an album with arif before that, 804 00:41:54,417 --> 00:41:57,000 but arif said, "we've gotta go more into R&B," 805 00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:58,791 and we started working together 806 00:41:58,875 --> 00:42:02,083 right here in Miami, down at criteria. 807 00:42:03,083 --> 00:42:05,000 Well, I was in studio b, 808 00:42:05,083 --> 00:42:06,875 and arif says to me, 809 00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:09,875 "Carl, have I got a group for you." 810 00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:12,666 And of course, everybody knew the Bee Gees. 811 00:42:12,749 --> 00:42:14,833 It was a surprise out of nowhere. 812 00:42:14,916 --> 00:42:16,000 I was excited. 813 00:42:16,083 --> 00:42:17,250 You know, they sing like angels. 814 00:42:17,333 --> 00:42:20,125 And they were as excited as I was. 815 00:42:20,208 --> 00:42:22,333 And arif was right in there with them. 816 00:42:22,417 --> 00:42:23,499 He said, "look, 817 00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:25,916 "if you're ever going to break out brandnew, 818 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,083 "you gotta start now. 819 00:42:27,167 --> 00:42:28,417 "You gotta shock the pants off these people 820 00:42:28,499 --> 00:42:29,708 who don't believe in you." 821 00:42:29,791 --> 00:42:32,541 Robert came and saw US when we were making the album, 822 00:42:32,624 --> 00:42:35,499 sat down with US on the beach, and said, "right. 823 00:42:35,583 --> 00:42:37,250 "We're gonna start from scratch. 824 00:42:37,333 --> 00:42:38,791 "This is gonna be it. 825 00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:40,083 Let's make it big." 826 00:42:42,125 --> 00:42:44,250 If you said to me or anyone, 827 00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:46,875 "just go and write a hit song right now," 828 00:42:46,958 --> 00:42:48,708 they would be able to craft something good, 829 00:42:48,791 --> 00:42:51,000 but it would probably be missing this magic 830 00:42:51,083 --> 00:42:53,208 that, if you work in music long enough, 831 00:42:53,292 --> 00:42:56,791 you understand is running everything. 832 00:42:56,875 --> 00:42:59,708 Like surfers with waves. Surfers don't make the waves. 833 00:42:59,791 --> 00:43:01,833 Fishermen don't make the fish. 834 00:43:01,916 --> 00:43:03,333 Songwriters don't really write songs. 835 00:43:03,417 --> 00:43:04,749 You receive songs. 836 00:43:06,499 --> 00:43:08,916 Driving backwards and forwards to criteria, 837 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,417 this clickityclick thing was going on in this bridge 838 00:43:11,499 --> 00:43:13,292 every time we crossed over it. 839 00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:14,708 And in my head, it sounded like, 840 00:43:14,791 --> 00:43:15,749 "ch, chch, chch." 841 00:43:19,208 --> 00:43:20,708 And it was gone. 842 00:43:20,791 --> 00:43:23,749 And eventually, I started singing to it in my head. 843 00:43:26,749 --> 00:43:28,083 I remember going to the studio. 844 00:43:28,167 --> 00:43:30,624 Barry said, "can you do chicken picking, Alan?" 845 00:43:30,708 --> 00:43:33,583 I didn't really know what it was. 846 00:43:33,666 --> 00:43:35,708 So I just played this one note and muted it. 847 00:43:35,791 --> 00:43:37,083 Thought it sounded like a chicken. 848 00:43:39,958 --> 00:43:41,250 And mixed with Barry's rhythm part, 849 00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:43,208 it really worked, you know? 850 00:44:01,083 --> 00:44:02,125 At that time, you know, 851 00:44:02,208 --> 00:44:04,499 a handful of R&B artists were using synthesizers, 852 00:44:04,583 --> 00:44:08,125 so we went into this field 853 00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:10,499 pioneering, in a way. 854 00:44:14,749 --> 00:44:18,499 Music is this huge energy flying around everywhere, 855 00:44:18,583 --> 00:44:20,791 and if you're lucky, you get little slices of it 856 00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:21,916 that turn into songs. 857 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,083 There is a sort of 858 00:44:23,167 --> 00:44:25,167 like a radio transmitter. It's exactly like that. 859 00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:26,791 It's almost as if somebody's already written 860 00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,916 the songs in the air and they're giving them to US. 861 00:44:35,916 --> 00:44:37,041 It was Robert who really pressed 862 00:44:37,125 --> 00:44:39,333 for "jive talkin'" to come out as the first single, 863 00:44:39,417 --> 00:44:41,875 because it was something totally unexpected from US. 864 00:44:41,958 --> 00:44:43,125 We sent the record out 865 00:44:43,208 --> 00:44:44,666 but without naming the Bee Gees on it, 866 00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:48,167 because by then, their stock had fallen so low 867 00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,875 with radio stations in america, 868 00:44:49,958 --> 00:44:52,167 and within hours 869 00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:53,624 of the record landing at all the radio stations, 870 00:44:53,708 --> 00:44:55,000 they were calling in, saying, "who is this? 871 00:44:55,083 --> 00:44:56,458 This is amazing." 872 00:44:59,375 --> 00:45:01,833 The British group who move into number one this week 873 00:45:01,916 --> 00:45:02,833 hit number one 874 00:45:02,916 --> 00:45:05,292 exactly four years ago to the week. 875 00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:09,167 The brandnew number one song in the usa, 876 00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:12,041 the Bee Gees and "jive talkin'." 877 00:45:16,875 --> 00:45:18,375 When "jive talkin'" came out, 878 00:45:18,458 --> 00:45:19,624 everybody went, "who? 879 00:45:19,708 --> 00:45:21,541 "The Bee Gees? 'Broken heart' Bee Gees? 880 00:45:21,624 --> 00:45:22,916 Are you kidding?" 881 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,541 Something different was happening, 882 00:45:24,624 --> 00:45:26,167 and the brothers felt it too. 883 00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:27,417 Miami, Miami beach, 884 00:45:27,499 --> 00:45:29,499 that whole vibe turned them on. 885 00:45:29,583 --> 00:45:31,875 I just fell in love with the atmosphere here. 886 00:45:31,958 --> 00:45:34,749 It reminded me so much of growing up in Australia. 887 00:45:35,624 --> 00:45:36,833 That's great, Rob. 888 00:45:36,916 --> 00:45:38,875 And from "jive talkin'" onwards, 889 00:45:38,958 --> 00:45:40,875 we kicked it up. 890 00:45:40,958 --> 00:45:43,167 The songwriting was just very unique. 891 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:44,333 Nothing like it. 892 00:45:44,417 --> 00:45:45,708 They would write on the spot, 893 00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:47,875 and they would bounce off each other. 894 00:45:47,958 --> 00:45:50,417 Okay, you let US know when you're ready. 895 00:45:50,499 --> 00:45:52,208 "Nights on Broadway" was one of those. 896 00:45:52,292 --> 00:45:54,292 The guys had been to New York, and they go, "this is 897 00:45:54,375 --> 00:45:56,250 we gotta write a New York kind of song." 898 00:45:56,333 --> 00:45:57,833 Here we go. Take ten. 899 00:45:57,916 --> 00:45:59,916 They just did it naturally in the studio, 900 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,417 and everybody chipped in. 901 00:46:01,499 --> 00:46:02,458 Three, four. 902 00:46:13,624 --> 00:46:15,583 Ahmet ertegun came to Miami. 903 00:46:15,666 --> 00:46:18,083 He was there when we were cutting "nights on Broadway." 904 00:46:18,167 --> 00:46:20,458 At the time, it was "lights on Broadway." 905 00:46:25,958 --> 00:46:28,458 And ahmet went, "no." 906 00:46:28,541 --> 00:46:30,791 He said, "you know, you've got to get more adult 907 00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:32,375 about the song." 908 00:46:32,458 --> 00:46:34,749 So "lights on Broadway" became "nights on Broadway." 909 00:47:04,791 --> 00:47:06,250 We were completing "nights on Broadway." 910 00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:08,167 We'd just done most of the vocal tracks. 911 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:09,499 Usually, you know, at the end, you know, 912 00:47:09,583 --> 00:47:11,167 you have some adlibs or some kind of thing 913 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:12,666 to take US away from the original melody 914 00:47:12,749 --> 00:47:13,958 and have some fun. 915 00:47:14,041 --> 00:47:15,666 Arif suggested to the band, 916 00:47:15,749 --> 00:47:18,167 "hey, you know, we really need some kind of background parts 917 00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:21,375 that come in and express the meaning of the song." 918 00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:23,833 He was looking for one of US to scream, 919 00:47:23,916 --> 00:47:25,875 in tune, if possible. 920 00:47:25,958 --> 00:47:28,208 I said, "I'll go out and give it a shot." 921 00:47:28,292 --> 00:47:30,624 Are we almost ready? Let's do it. 922 00:47:30,708 --> 00:47:32,000 So he went out there and he did 923 00:47:32,083 --> 00:47:35,666 the "blaming it alls." 924 00:47:41,083 --> 00:47:42,875 Everybody in the control room woke up, 925 00:47:42,958 --> 00:47:45,666 and it was like, "this is a new sound." 926 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,333 I was thinking, "my god, I don't 927 00:47:51,417 --> 00:47:52,458 "where is this coming from? 928 00:47:52,541 --> 00:47:53,499 I can do this." 929 00:47:53,583 --> 00:47:55,958 My whole life, I didn't know I could do this. 930 00:47:56,041 --> 00:47:57,333 Everybody's giving me credit. 931 00:47:57,458 --> 00:47:59,583 No, he was singing it. I said, "keep on doing it." 932 00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:09,083 Arif brought it out of US, all that. 933 00:48:09,167 --> 00:48:10,708 I mean, we weren't the first to sing falsetto. 934 00:48:14,624 --> 00:48:15,708 We loved the stylistics. 935 00:48:15,791 --> 00:48:18,708 We loved the spinners, the delfonics. 936 00:48:18,791 --> 00:48:21,333 They were all falsetto lead singers. 937 00:48:29,292 --> 00:48:31,250 There's something to be said about all music 938 00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:33,541 is that it doesn't happen in a vacuum. 939 00:48:33,624 --> 00:48:37,208 The falsetto is very much a black tradition, 940 00:48:37,292 --> 00:48:38,541 but they've translated it 941 00:48:38,624 --> 00:48:42,624 into this interesting interpretation of soul. 942 00:48:42,708 --> 00:48:44,458 But I guess more importantly for me, 943 00:48:44,541 --> 00:48:45,458 it's emotional. 944 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,417 Because we were so excited about this, 945 00:48:52,499 --> 00:48:54,791 we started writing songs for this voice. 946 00:48:54,875 --> 00:48:57,250 It created another dimension of sound 947 00:48:57,333 --> 00:48:59,417 that's what we thought you know, emotionally. 948 00:48:59,499 --> 00:49:02,875 It became another icon of the Gibbs. 949 00:49:02,958 --> 00:49:05,417 Everybody knew, when you heard that falsetto, 950 00:49:05,499 --> 00:49:07,041 that's the Bee Gees. 951 00:49:16,499 --> 00:49:17,749 When we sing songs like... 952 00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:23,499 It's Barry and Robin singing in unison. 953 00:49:23,583 --> 00:49:27,000 But they mesh together so well that it sounds like one voice. 954 00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:30,125 But it's a different voice from them separately. 955 00:49:38,875 --> 00:49:40,916 It's delivered with such delicacy, 956 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,624 and the message in the lyrics 957 00:49:45,708 --> 00:49:49,624 was what guys should say, didn't say, couldn't say, 958 00:49:49,708 --> 00:49:50,791 for whatever reasons. 959 00:49:50,875 --> 00:49:52,624 It's the kind of music you might've bought 960 00:49:52,708 --> 00:49:53,749 and given to your girlfriend. 961 00:49:55,083 --> 00:49:57,333 But that's what was special about them. 962 00:49:57,417 --> 00:50:00,958 Both: 963 00:50:04,624 --> 00:50:07,167 "Main course" became a turning point for US. 964 00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:08,958 Dennis bryon on drums 965 00:50:09,041 --> 00:50:12,000 and blue Weaver and Alan Kendall, 966 00:50:12,083 --> 00:50:13,708 that became our band. 967 00:50:23,375 --> 00:50:26,708 One of their best qualities was adaptability. 968 00:50:26,791 --> 00:50:30,833 In many ways, they were chameleons of pop. 969 00:50:30,916 --> 00:50:32,333 The way they changed 970 00:50:32,417 --> 00:50:34,458 and the groove they got into there 971 00:50:34,541 --> 00:50:36,499 was so profound. 972 00:50:36,583 --> 00:50:40,000 If that was something that was initiated by me, 973 00:50:40,083 --> 00:50:41,083 I can't think of any 974 00:50:41,167 --> 00:50:43,833 one of the great things I've done in my life. 975 00:50:43,916 --> 00:50:45,583 I'll take full credit. 976 00:50:54,167 --> 00:50:57,583 We're getting ready to record the next album, 977 00:50:57,666 --> 00:50:58,666 and we get this phone call 978 00:50:58,749 --> 00:51:01,666 that arif can't be involved in this album. 979 00:51:04,083 --> 00:51:06,375 Robert chose to take 980 00:51:06,458 --> 00:51:08,417 the organization away from Atlantic records 981 00:51:08,499 --> 00:51:11,041 and go private. 982 00:51:11,125 --> 00:51:13,333 Atlantic, who were not happy about that, said, 983 00:51:13,417 --> 00:51:14,708 "well, you're not using arif anymore 984 00:51:14,791 --> 00:51:16,375 as a house producer." 985 00:51:16,458 --> 00:51:18,041 I said, "what about the next album?" 986 00:51:18,125 --> 00:51:19,583 Arifyou know, I said, 987 00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,916 "who do you think can continue where you left off?" 988 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,749 I got a call from Barry, 989 00:51:25,833 --> 00:51:27,791 and he said, "I want my studio time back 990 00:51:27,875 --> 00:51:28,958 and I wanna work with you." 991 00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:35,000 And I'm in the control room. 992 00:51:35,083 --> 00:51:36,708 I said to Dennis, the drummer, I says, you know, 993 00:51:36,791 --> 00:51:37,875 "that pattern you're playing right now 994 00:51:37,958 --> 00:51:39,583 is just a little too busy." 995 00:51:41,833 --> 00:51:43,417 He said, "well, what do you mean?" 996 00:51:43,499 --> 00:51:45,458 I said, "I can't get into specifics 997 00:51:45,541 --> 00:51:47,250 about the note values." 998 00:51:47,333 --> 00:51:50,250 I didn't have a technical term for the open and closed hihat 999 00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:51,583 or any of that stuff. 1000 00:51:51,666 --> 00:51:55,250 So apparently, you know, I needed a communicator. 1001 00:51:58,292 --> 00:51:59,666 I was working as an independent producer 1002 00:51:59,749 --> 00:52:01,958 on some pub band in London. 1003 00:52:02,041 --> 00:52:04,417 Carl called and he said, "what are you doing?" 1004 00:52:04,499 --> 00:52:05,916 And I said, "well, I just finished the mix. 1005 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,958 I'm on a plane tomorrow." 1006 00:52:07,041 --> 00:52:08,916 Albhy went to berklee school of music 1007 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,958 in new england, 1008 00:52:10,041 --> 00:52:12,458 and he was one of my best friends. 1009 00:52:12,541 --> 00:52:14,749 And he says, "I'll be on the next flight to Florida." 1010 00:52:17,292 --> 00:52:19,958 I got off the plane. I went straight to the studio. 1011 00:52:20,041 --> 00:52:21,125 I walked in. 1012 00:52:21,208 --> 00:52:23,167 They were working on "you should be dancing." 1013 00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:24,292 They came in the control room, 1014 00:52:24,375 --> 00:52:25,916 and Barry said, "what did you think?" 1015 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,458 And I said, "well, I just got in, 1016 00:52:27,541 --> 00:52:29,624 but sounds awfully good." 1017 00:52:29,708 --> 00:52:32,125 We seemed to hit it off, so I came back the next day. 1018 00:52:32,208 --> 00:52:34,292 Now, what you have to remember at the time, 1019 00:52:34,375 --> 00:52:35,499 albhy was a hippie. 1020 00:52:35,583 --> 00:52:37,125 I mean, he was just different. 1021 00:52:39,916 --> 00:52:42,125 Albhy used to hang around the studio, 1022 00:52:42,208 --> 00:52:43,624 and I got on really well with him. 1023 00:52:43,708 --> 00:52:46,791 I found out he played on "I shot the sheriff" 1024 00:52:46,875 --> 00:52:47,958 with Eric. 1025 00:52:48,041 --> 00:52:51,499 Albhy had an inroad into technology, 1026 00:52:51,583 --> 00:52:52,749 and he had a great ear. 1027 00:52:52,833 --> 00:52:55,624 Everybody just seemed to be, I think, relieved 1028 00:52:55,708 --> 00:52:59,000 to have another ear in the control room 1029 00:52:59,083 --> 00:53:01,250 to hear what they were doing as a whole. 1030 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:12,167 In the beginning, when I came, 1031 00:53:12,250 --> 00:53:14,666 the three brothers were clearly a unit. 1032 00:53:14,749 --> 00:53:16,499 Each of them knew the way their brothers sang 1033 00:53:16,583 --> 00:53:18,041 and would be on the same mic 1034 00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,833 and they would lean in or lean out 1035 00:53:19,916 --> 00:53:22,125 or complement each other's voices. 1036 00:53:22,208 --> 00:53:24,000 They were in perfect synchrony. 1037 00:53:31,958 --> 00:53:34,499 We found another sound. We found a new sound. 1038 00:53:34,583 --> 00:53:36,666 I came up with a lot of new ideas 1039 00:53:36,749 --> 00:53:38,333 to suit the falsetto. 1040 00:53:38,417 --> 00:53:40,208 Everybody was saying the same thing: 1041 00:53:40,292 --> 00:53:42,541 "Do that falsetto again. Do that falsetto again." 1042 00:53:42,624 --> 00:53:45,041 And so that was fine for me. I was having a ball. 1043 00:53:50,791 --> 00:53:54,375 A lot of new music has been coming out of Miami lately, 1044 00:53:54,458 --> 00:53:56,541 enough so that we've even heard mentioned 1045 00:53:56,624 --> 00:53:59,041 the term "Miami sound." 1046 00:54:06,791 --> 00:54:08,708 This is actually a really important period 1047 00:54:08,791 --> 00:54:11,833 for musicianship and production and songwriting 1048 00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:13,791 that targets the dance floor. 1049 00:54:17,333 --> 00:54:18,583 It's a different emotional energy, 1050 00:54:18,666 --> 00:54:21,083 which is about, can you make the body move? 1051 00:54:21,167 --> 00:54:22,958 Can you make the body happy? 1052 00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:31,083 And certain songs sounded like 1053 00:54:31,167 --> 00:54:34,791 the human embodiment of a brass section. 1054 00:54:34,875 --> 00:54:36,916 The same way a horn just punches... 1055 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,250 Yeah. 1056 00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:39,958 That's what Barry's voice reminds me of. 1057 00:54:45,708 --> 00:54:49,417 I was always into arrangement of instruments. 1058 00:54:49,499 --> 00:54:50,708 "You should be dancing," 1059 00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:54,208 their voices together sound like trumpets to me. 1060 00:54:58,083 --> 00:54:59,624 I am not high, for the record. 1061 00:54:59,708 --> 00:55:02,958 I just wanna 1062 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,916 it was a discovery. 1063 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,916 We've discovered a new audience. 1064 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,916 At the clubs, 1065 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,499 "you should be dancing" exploded. 1066 00:55:13,583 --> 00:55:15,666 Not just, "well, I heard that record 1067 00:55:15,749 --> 00:55:16,916 and I really liked it." 1068 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,417 It was three times a night at any club that you went to. 1069 00:55:21,499 --> 00:55:23,292 There was a whole industry 1070 00:55:23,375 --> 00:55:26,208 that was built around this clubbing thing. 1071 00:55:26,292 --> 00:55:30,458 "Billboard" started a chart that was dance music chart. 1072 00:55:30,541 --> 00:55:34,499 This billiondollar industry was being built 1073 00:55:34,583 --> 00:55:36,499 way before the Bee Gees. 1074 00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:38,624 A lot of people don't realize 1075 00:55:38,708 --> 00:55:42,708 disco started in the gay and the black community. 1076 00:55:42,791 --> 00:55:44,167 People don't understand 1077 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:46,791 what it was like back then for gay people. 1078 00:55:46,875 --> 00:55:48,375 There was a law in New York 1079 00:55:48,458 --> 00:55:51,833 that did not allow people of the same sex 1080 00:55:51,916 --> 00:55:53,333 to dance together 1081 00:55:53,417 --> 00:55:57,000 in a place that had a liquor license. 1082 00:55:57,083 --> 00:55:59,041 And then the law changed, 1083 00:55:59,125 --> 00:56:01,875 and that allowed me to open my club. 1084 00:56:03,458 --> 00:56:06,292 A new era of dance music started 1085 00:56:06,375 --> 00:56:09,041 in the gay underground clubs. 1086 00:56:13,749 --> 00:56:18,333 So the record industry wants to name it, 1087 00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:20,749 package it, sell it. 1088 00:56:20,833 --> 00:56:23,541 That was the explosion 1089 00:56:23,624 --> 00:56:26,000 of the disco sound. 1090 00:56:32,791 --> 00:56:35,541 We're down at criteria sound studios, 1091 00:56:35,624 --> 00:56:37,875 and currently, it's the studio 1092 00:56:37,958 --> 00:56:40,292 that's being used by the Bee Gees. 1093 00:56:40,375 --> 00:56:43,041 What particular thing about the studio 1094 00:56:43,125 --> 00:56:44,333 makes it so attractive? 1095 00:56:44,417 --> 00:56:46,333 It's cheap. It's cheap, yeah. 1096 00:56:46,417 --> 00:56:50,208 No. Cheap it isn't, but 1097 00:56:50,292 --> 00:56:53,000 but the actual atmosphere of the place is very relaxing. 1098 00:56:53,083 --> 00:56:54,583 We create better here than we do anywhere else. 1099 00:56:54,666 --> 00:56:55,708 Yeah. 1100 00:56:55,791 --> 00:56:57,208 That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. 1101 00:57:02,458 --> 00:57:04,916 America was the ultimate dream. 1102 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,250 As three kids, we said, 1103 00:57:07,333 --> 00:57:09,250 "one day, we're gonna have houses in america 1104 00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,583 all next door to each other with swimming pools." 1105 00:57:12,875 --> 00:57:14,125 And we thought, "that'll be great." 1106 00:57:19,499 --> 00:57:21,791 It was a huge uprooting. 1107 00:57:23,541 --> 00:57:25,541 It's a very large family, 1108 00:57:25,624 --> 00:57:28,417 and it just kept getting bigger and bigger over time. 1109 00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:33,583 Mum and dad came to Miami as quickly as we did. 1110 00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:35,749 I think they were probably the happiest they'd ever been 1111 00:57:35,833 --> 00:57:36,958 in their lives. 1112 00:57:37,041 --> 00:57:40,375 And of course, Andy came here with them. 1113 00:57:42,541 --> 00:57:45,833 Andy was a gift out of left field. 1114 00:57:45,916 --> 00:57:50,000 But I never knew he existed until one day, he shows up 1115 00:57:50,083 --> 00:57:52,958 fresh from Australia. 1116 00:57:53,041 --> 00:57:55,083 Andy was a great kid. 1117 00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:57,458 He could do anything he set his mind to. 1118 00:57:57,541 --> 00:58:00,125 Barry was Andy's idol. 1119 00:58:00,208 --> 00:58:02,250 They were almost like twins. 1120 00:58:02,333 --> 00:58:03,583 We were very much alike. 1121 00:58:03,666 --> 00:58:05,833 We looked alike. We had the same birthmarks. 1122 00:58:05,916 --> 00:58:07,624 I would say that we were as much like twins 1123 00:58:07,708 --> 00:58:09,624 as Maurice and Robin. 1124 00:58:09,708 --> 00:58:11,583 "Main course" and "children of the world," 1125 00:58:11,666 --> 00:58:12,624 which followed that, 1126 00:58:12,708 --> 00:58:13,749 they were, like, triple platinum. 1127 00:58:13,833 --> 00:58:16,624 I think he really wanted to be a part of that. 1128 00:58:16,708 --> 00:58:18,458 They suggested that I go to Australia, 1129 00:58:18,541 --> 00:58:20,125 as my brothers first did in 1958 1130 00:58:20,208 --> 00:58:21,791 when I was only five months old, 1131 00:58:21,875 --> 00:58:25,000 and start working there and get some records released. 1132 00:58:25,083 --> 00:58:27,167 Andy was very young then. 1133 00:58:27,250 --> 00:58:29,125 He had his little band. 1134 00:58:29,208 --> 00:58:30,708 It was a process of building him up, 1135 00:58:30,791 --> 00:58:34,083 getting him to play live, getting him to be an artist. 1136 00:58:34,167 --> 00:58:35,499 I was there for two years. 1137 00:58:35,583 --> 00:58:36,833 Out of the blue, a phone call came 1138 00:58:36,916 --> 00:58:37,791 from my brother Barry 1139 00:58:37,875 --> 00:58:39,541 and said, "I wanna produce you," 1140 00:58:39,624 --> 00:58:41,375 and I think it was, like, two weeks or something, 1141 00:58:41,458 --> 00:58:44,499 I was in the studio to do a new album in Miami. 1142 00:58:44,583 --> 00:58:46,167 I didn't think I was ready. 1143 00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:47,208 The first few times 1144 00:58:47,292 --> 00:58:49,375 on a real professional studio microphone, 1145 00:58:49,458 --> 00:58:51,499 Andy was, like, petrified, 1146 00:58:51,583 --> 00:58:54,041 but, you know, Barry was there 1147 00:58:54,125 --> 00:58:56,875 and guided him through and helped him with lyrics. 1148 00:58:56,958 --> 00:58:59,666 He was very receptive to new ideas. 1149 00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:05,083 And it didn't take him long, you know, 1150 00:59:05,167 --> 00:59:08,208 to find, like, you know, another groove. 1151 00:59:21,292 --> 00:59:23,708 The Bee Gees' point of view was about having hit records 1152 00:59:23,791 --> 00:59:24,708 and being on the radio, 1153 00:59:24,791 --> 00:59:27,208 and so the greatest gift that you could give 1154 00:59:27,292 --> 00:59:28,583 to your younger brother 1155 00:59:28,666 --> 00:59:30,417 would be to give him that success, 1156 00:59:30,499 --> 00:59:33,333 to write songs with him, to teach him to be a star. 1157 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,541 And then suddenly, out of nowhere, 1158 00:59:41,624 --> 00:59:43,916 Andy had about three number ones in a row. 1159 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,875 He was a teen idol. 1160 00:59:45,958 --> 00:59:47,958 There was talk about him becoming a bee gee. 1161 00:59:48,041 --> 00:59:50,208 I think Robert saw he had a younger audience. 1162 00:59:50,292 --> 00:59:52,208 Smart to keep him on his own. 1163 01:00:00,791 --> 01:00:02,749 All of a sudden, he was the big thing. 1164 01:00:02,833 --> 01:00:05,041 There was a period when we lived in the shadow 1165 01:00:05,125 --> 01:00:07,749 of Andy's band. 1166 01:00:16,833 --> 01:00:18,541 After "children of the world" album, 1167 01:00:18,624 --> 01:00:19,749 the next project, 1168 01:00:19,833 --> 01:00:22,000 we were booked to record in France 1169 01:00:22,083 --> 01:00:24,916 'cause of the Elton John album "honky ch�teau." 1170 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,125 It sounded great. 1171 01:00:30,833 --> 01:00:33,000 Robert sent US there 1172 01:00:33,083 --> 01:00:34,666 I think it was some kind of tax thing. 1173 01:00:34,749 --> 01:00:37,458 We thought, "well, if this studio sounds that good, 1174 01:00:37,541 --> 01:00:39,292 "hell yeah, let's go off to France. 1175 01:00:39,375 --> 01:00:40,333 Why not? 1176 01:00:44,916 --> 01:00:48,583 It wasn't the honky ch�teau that Elton John had used. 1177 01:00:51,749 --> 01:00:53,624 Now, ch�teau sounds absolutely gorgeous, 1178 01:00:53,708 --> 01:00:54,791 doesn't it? 1179 01:00:54,875 --> 01:00:56,958 Beautiful building, great grounds and gardens 1180 01:00:57,041 --> 01:00:58,458 and ponds and fountains. 1181 01:00:58,541 --> 01:00:59,458 No. 1182 01:00:59,541 --> 01:01:01,458 It's nothing like that. 1183 01:01:01,541 --> 01:01:05,333 It was a halfbuilt castle, no central heating, nothing, 1184 01:01:05,417 --> 01:01:06,458 and it was a dump. 1185 01:01:06,541 --> 01:01:08,958 We seemed to be in the middle of nowhere. 1186 01:01:09,041 --> 01:01:11,083 Not a happy place to be. 1187 01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:12,833 It was really kind of decrepit. 1188 01:01:12,916 --> 01:01:15,292 I think it'd been used to make porn movies. 1189 01:01:15,375 --> 01:01:17,167 This was not right. 1190 01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:19,167 But because there was a contract, 1191 01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:22,417 we just decided to, you know, plow on through. 1192 01:01:22,499 --> 01:01:24,125 We were going there to mix a live album 1193 01:01:24,208 --> 01:01:26,375 called "here at last...Live." 1194 01:01:26,458 --> 01:01:28,333 But also, we were getting songs ready 1195 01:01:28,417 --> 01:01:29,583 for our new studio album, 1196 01:01:29,666 --> 01:01:32,000 which would be the followup to "children of the world." 1197 01:01:32,083 --> 01:01:35,333 And we got a call from Robert stigwood. 1198 01:01:41,624 --> 01:01:43,000 A friend of mine, Nik cohn, 1199 01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:45,041 wrote this piece for "New York" magazine, 1200 01:01:45,125 --> 01:01:46,833 "tribal rites of the new Saturday night." 1201 01:01:46,916 --> 01:01:50,375 Disco was really underway, in Manhattan, anyway, 1202 01:01:50,458 --> 01:01:52,041 but Nik cohn's point was that 1203 01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,000 rather than just being underground gay clubs, 1204 01:01:54,083 --> 01:01:56,375 straight couples are now going to do the hustle 1205 01:01:56,458 --> 01:01:58,541 on a Saturday night in the suburbs. 1206 01:01:58,624 --> 01:01:59,875 So I got Robert to buy the film rights 1207 01:01:59,958 --> 01:02:02,708 to a magazine article, of which there was no story. 1208 01:02:02,791 --> 01:02:04,417 But it caught Robert's attention 1209 01:02:04,499 --> 01:02:06,292 because he saw 1210 01:02:06,375 --> 01:02:08,083 that that's a lead role for an actor 1211 01:02:08,167 --> 01:02:09,708 if it was a movie. 1212 01:02:09,791 --> 01:02:10,749 He announced 1213 01:02:10,833 --> 01:02:12,208 at the Beverly Hills hotel at breakfast, 1214 01:02:12,292 --> 01:02:14,499 "I'm signing John Travolta to a threepicture deal," 1215 01:02:14,583 --> 01:02:15,833 and people thought he was mad. 1216 01:02:15,916 --> 01:02:17,499 He was a TV actor. 1217 01:02:17,583 --> 01:02:19,833 No one gets a million dollars for three pictures. 1218 01:02:19,916 --> 01:02:21,708 Turned out to be the bargain of the century, of course, 1219 01:02:21,791 --> 01:02:23,417 because he got him for "grease" 1220 01:02:23,499 --> 01:02:25,041 and the movie we don't talk about, 1221 01:02:25,125 --> 01:02:26,708 "moment by moment," 1222 01:02:26,791 --> 01:02:28,208 but two out of three's not bad. 1223 01:02:30,458 --> 01:02:31,875 I was still running rso records, 1224 01:02:31,958 --> 01:02:34,499 so my job was to do the soundtrack, 1225 01:02:34,583 --> 01:02:35,875 and my brief was, 1226 01:02:35,958 --> 01:02:37,916 "put all of your favorite disco tracks 1227 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,125 "and everyone will play it at a party 1228 01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:40,417 and they'll never stop dancing." 1229 01:02:45,666 --> 01:02:47,417 These were comparatively easy, 1230 01:02:47,499 --> 01:02:50,916 but we needed the Bee Gees to write a few songs. 1231 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,541 Phone call came through from Robert, 1232 01:02:52,624 --> 01:02:54,417 saying, "I wanna make this film." 1233 01:02:54,499 --> 01:02:56,749 He said, "but I'm gonna need two or three songs." 1234 01:02:56,833 --> 01:02:59,083 It wasn't the idea that they would do the soundtrack. 1235 01:02:59,167 --> 01:03:00,292 We knew they were busy. 1236 01:03:00,375 --> 01:03:02,208 "But have you got some songs?" Robert said, 1237 01:03:02,292 --> 01:03:05,250 and they said, "yeah, sure." 1238 01:03:05,333 --> 01:03:07,749 Robert said, "I'm sending you a script." 1239 01:03:07,833 --> 01:03:10,417 But we decided not to read the script. 1240 01:03:10,499 --> 01:03:12,624 We weren't writing the "fever" music. 1241 01:03:12,708 --> 01:03:16,417 We were writing our new album and just having fun doing it. 1242 01:03:16,499 --> 01:03:17,666 They already had a couple of tunes 1243 01:03:17,749 --> 01:03:19,167 or some titles, anyway. 1244 01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:20,624 We thought, "let's leave it with them." 1245 01:03:20,708 --> 01:03:25,458 What we ended up doing was the demos of these songs. 1246 01:03:25,541 --> 01:03:26,499 And I was really surprised 1247 01:03:26,583 --> 01:03:27,958 that, you know, it was only a few weeks later 1248 01:03:28,041 --> 01:03:30,083 we got the songs. 1249 01:03:30,167 --> 01:03:34,749 We got a cassette, and to this day, it's amazing. 1250 01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:48,958 It was just one after the other. 1251 01:03:49,041 --> 01:03:51,333 You know, "stayin' alive," "more than a woman," 1252 01:03:51,417 --> 01:03:53,833 "how deep is your love," "if I can't have you," 1253 01:03:53,916 --> 01:03:54,958 "night fever" 1254 01:03:55,041 --> 01:03:56,292 on one cassette. 1255 01:03:56,375 --> 01:03:58,333 And I thought, "yes. 1256 01:03:58,417 --> 01:03:59,875 We've got a soundtrack." 1257 01:03:59,958 --> 01:04:01,791 You know, you listen to that tape, 1258 01:04:01,875 --> 01:04:03,499 whoever was playing on those records, 1259 01:04:03,583 --> 01:04:04,541 they would've been hits. 1260 01:04:04,624 --> 01:04:05,791 Those songs are so good. 1261 01:04:05,875 --> 01:04:07,958 You think, "shit," you know? 1262 01:04:08,041 --> 01:04:10,167 "That's so cool." 1263 01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:11,458 We had the demos, 1264 01:04:11,541 --> 01:04:12,708 and then we went into the process 1265 01:04:12,791 --> 01:04:14,624 of making real records. 1266 01:04:14,708 --> 01:04:17,624 Barry and Carl and I lived in that control room, 1267 01:04:17,708 --> 01:04:19,167 I don't know, 16 hours a day. 1268 01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:21,541 Yeah. That was the only thing to do. 1269 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,833 We recorded "night fever" first. 1270 01:04:25,916 --> 01:04:27,458 We actually had that in the can. 1271 01:04:29,583 --> 01:04:32,499 Robert called and said, "I need a title for the film." 1272 01:04:32,583 --> 01:04:35,292 "What I've got at the moment," I said, "is two titles: 1273 01:04:35,375 --> 01:04:37,499 'Stayin' alive' and 'night fever.'" 1274 01:04:37,583 --> 01:04:40,499 and he said, "'night fever.' 1275 01:04:40,583 --> 01:04:42,208 " he said, "sounds okay," he said, 1276 01:04:42,292 --> 01:04:45,083 "but it sounds a bit too pornographic. 1277 01:04:45,167 --> 01:04:47,749 It'd need to be called 'Saturday night,'" he said. 1278 01:04:47,833 --> 01:04:49,916 So it turned into "Saturday night fever." 1279 01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:57,875 We were editing "fever" on the lot at Paramount. 1280 01:04:57,958 --> 01:05:00,333 I was deluged by Paramount people saying, 1281 01:05:00,417 --> 01:05:02,375 "how's your little disco movie coming along?" 1282 01:05:02,458 --> 01:05:03,916 So that was a bit patronizing. 1283 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,375 But the inspiring thing was 1284 01:05:05,458 --> 01:05:07,333 that stigwood, during postproduction, said, 1285 01:05:07,417 --> 01:05:08,749 "why do we wait for the release of the film? 1286 01:05:08,833 --> 01:05:09,958 Let's put out a single now." 1287 01:05:10,041 --> 01:05:12,250 And then he started with the heads of Paramount, 1288 01:05:12,333 --> 01:05:13,375 like, "how many theaters?" 1289 01:05:13,458 --> 01:05:15,167 And they told him something like 200. 1290 01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:17,708 He said, "I'm releasing the record in every city. 1291 01:05:17,791 --> 01:05:19,875 Why can't it be in every single city?" 1292 01:05:19,958 --> 01:05:21,208 So they made a deal 1293 01:05:21,292 --> 01:05:23,250 whereby if the record got to the top 20, 1294 01:05:23,333 --> 01:05:25,083 they would increase the number of screens. 1295 01:05:25,167 --> 01:05:27,208 If it got top ten, they'd go more. 1296 01:05:27,292 --> 01:05:28,749 He said, "I need the first record 1297 01:05:28,833 --> 01:05:29,791 to be number one." 1298 01:05:34,458 --> 01:05:37,583 Stigwood phoned up and said to Barry, 1299 01:05:37,666 --> 01:05:39,083 "I need the best love song 1300 01:05:39,167 --> 01:05:42,083 you've ever written for the movie." 1301 01:05:42,167 --> 01:05:44,916 So we went into a room in the ch�teau. 1302 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,916 Chopin had stayed there. 1303 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,541 So every time I looked at this piano, 1304 01:05:48,624 --> 01:05:51,208 I envisaged chopin sitting down and playing. 1305 01:05:52,833 --> 01:05:53,875 I sat down at the piano 1306 01:05:53,958 --> 01:05:56,417 and thought of his prelude in e flat, 1307 01:05:56,499 --> 01:05:59,875 and I knew Barry could sing in e flat. 1308 01:05:59,958 --> 01:06:01,250 When we were working like that, 1309 01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:03,083 I had a cassette player. 1310 01:06:19,541 --> 01:06:21,958 And I'm sure it happened at that point. 1311 01:06:22,041 --> 01:06:24,208 Through the stained glass window 1312 01:06:24,292 --> 01:06:27,000 came a beam of sunlight, you know? 1313 01:06:40,749 --> 01:06:44,000 And that's a memory that'll last me all my life. 1314 01:06:44,083 --> 01:06:46,208 Never forget it. 1315 01:06:46,292 --> 01:06:47,333 Never forget it. 1316 01:06:50,708 --> 01:06:51,666 You know, all the feelings, 1317 01:06:51,749 --> 01:06:53,208 all the emotions are still there. 1318 01:06:53,292 --> 01:06:55,875 When you talk about it, it all comes back, you know? 1319 01:06:58,167 --> 01:07:04,666 I have a my heart is in that song. 1321 01:08:03,125 --> 01:08:05,541 Everything came together. 1322 01:08:05,624 --> 01:08:08,417 But sadly, Dennis had had some bad news. 1323 01:08:08,499 --> 01:08:11,624 My mother was in hospital. She had Alzheimer's. 1324 01:08:11,708 --> 01:08:14,875 So, you know, I told Barry what was going on. 1325 01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:18,292 He said, you know, "get dick to book you a flight now." 1326 01:08:18,375 --> 01:08:22,375 He had to fly back to the UK, and we had no drummer. 1327 01:08:22,458 --> 01:08:24,417 We thought, "well, we gotta carry on writing 1328 01:08:24,499 --> 01:08:26,916 and getting these tracks together." 1329 01:08:29,333 --> 01:08:30,875 Okay, I know now. 1330 01:08:35,083 --> 01:08:37,375 When I was at berklee, I had studied things 1331 01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,041 where they were moving tapes around 1332 01:08:39,125 --> 01:08:41,541 and make sort of these interesting Sonic loops. 1333 01:08:41,624 --> 01:08:43,749 And when Dennis was not there, 1334 01:08:43,833 --> 01:08:46,125 I said, "well, why don't we just 1335 01:08:46,208 --> 01:08:47,458 "take a bar out of 'night fever'? 1336 01:08:47,541 --> 01:08:48,833 "I think it's a little slower tempo. 1337 01:08:48,916 --> 01:08:50,333 "We'll slow it down a little bit 1338 01:08:50,417 --> 01:08:51,791 and see if we can make a loop out of it." 1339 01:08:57,749 --> 01:09:00,833 We found a bar that we thought had a really nice feel to it. 1340 01:09:00,916 --> 01:09:02,458 We copied it over to a... 1341 01:09:02,541 --> 01:09:05,333 1/2 inch fourtrack. 1/2 inch fourtrack. 1342 01:09:05,417 --> 01:09:08,749 And spliced the tape into a loop. 1343 01:09:08,833 --> 01:09:09,791 Tape dump. 1344 01:09:13,541 --> 01:09:15,000 I was pretty good at imagining 1345 01:09:15,083 --> 01:09:16,624 what you might be able to do, 1346 01:09:16,708 --> 01:09:18,749 but Carl was able to make it happen. 1347 01:09:18,833 --> 01:09:22,624 It was just necessity being the mother of invention. 1348 01:09:22,708 --> 01:09:24,958 No one had taken a drumbeat before 1349 01:09:25,041 --> 01:09:27,541 and created a twobar phrase. 1350 01:09:27,624 --> 01:09:29,791 We were breaking new ground. 1351 01:09:29,875 --> 01:09:30,958 Perfect. Good. 1352 01:09:31,041 --> 01:09:34,541 This is the first time we had ever taken the song 1353 01:09:34,624 --> 01:09:36,875 and built it piece by piece from the ground up, 1354 01:09:36,958 --> 01:09:38,458 and we started with this drum loop. 1355 01:09:40,083 --> 01:09:41,791 And then we did a bass line. 1356 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:44,833 And then a guitar part. 1357 01:09:49,916 --> 01:09:53,250 Never again would we rely as much on the liveness. 1358 01:09:53,333 --> 01:09:54,208 We would always know 1359 01:09:54,292 --> 01:09:55,541 that we could construct the song 1360 01:09:55,624 --> 01:09:56,833 and put the pieces together 1361 01:09:56,916 --> 01:09:59,499 based on the original vision of the song 1362 01:09:59,583 --> 01:10:01,000 and how we imagined it. 1363 01:10:04,083 --> 01:10:07,624 I got back to the sessions, and there was just a buzz. 1364 01:10:07,708 --> 01:10:08,624 When we did it, we thought, 1365 01:10:08,708 --> 01:10:10,167 "we're just doing this temporarily," 1366 01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:11,499 and when Dennis comes back, 1367 01:10:11,583 --> 01:10:13,167 we'll replace it with real drums," 1368 01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:15,875 but what happened is, the feel was so amazing 1369 01:10:15,958 --> 01:10:17,041 that we couldn't get rid of it. 1370 01:10:17,125 --> 01:10:19,375 He played it for me, and I could tell 1371 01:10:19,458 --> 01:10:21,000 from the first listen. 1372 01:10:21,083 --> 01:10:24,541 I said, "man, that is amazing." 1373 01:10:24,624 --> 01:10:26,417 When you listen to the drum track 1374 01:10:26,499 --> 01:10:29,000 on "stayin' alive," like, by itself, 1375 01:10:29,083 --> 01:10:31,708 it's really this super rugged, like, tough thing. 1376 01:10:31,791 --> 01:10:35,875 It's like... 1377 01:10:35,958 --> 01:10:37,499 It's not pretty or pop like you remember. 1378 01:10:37,583 --> 01:10:38,499 It's pretty tough. 1379 01:10:41,791 --> 01:10:43,499 "Stayin' alive" was the influence 1380 01:10:43,583 --> 01:10:45,541 that New York gave to US. 1381 01:10:45,624 --> 01:10:47,041 And the energy level at that point 1382 01:10:47,125 --> 01:10:50,333 in the late '70s was really that, you know? 1383 01:10:50,417 --> 01:10:51,875 It's survival. It's survival. 1384 01:10:51,958 --> 01:10:52,875 This is '77. 1385 01:10:52,958 --> 01:10:54,749 Everybody know that time is hard now. 1386 01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:56,250 You know, if I was out there myself, 1387 01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:57,791 I would've got what I wanted too. 1388 01:10:57,875 --> 01:10:58,916 You were not among the looters? 1389 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,749 No, I wasn't. Unfortunate. 1390 01:11:00,833 --> 01:11:01,958 Do you feel personally threatened 1391 01:11:02,041 --> 01:11:03,250 by the .44 caliber killer? 1392 01:11:03,333 --> 01:11:04,417 Yes, I do. 1393 01:11:04,499 --> 01:11:05,583 I don't feel free to go out, 1394 01:11:05,666 --> 01:11:08,083 to walk the streets or go out at all. 1395 01:11:08,167 --> 01:11:10,208 Very few people realize 1396 01:11:10,292 --> 01:11:11,583 it's to do with anything but dance, 1397 01:11:11,666 --> 01:11:14,125 but the lyrics don't talk about dance at all, 1398 01:11:14,208 --> 01:11:16,583 and the lyrics very obviously state 1399 01:11:16,666 --> 01:11:18,125 the scenario of survival. 1400 01:11:34,499 --> 01:11:37,624 I mean, that could very easily have just been a horn line, 1401 01:11:37,708 --> 01:11:39,624 but instead, their voices are so sick, 1402 01:11:39,708 --> 01:11:42,250 they're like, "nah, we're gonna sing it." 1403 01:11:46,458 --> 01:11:49,041 The general fever at the time 1404 01:11:49,125 --> 01:11:51,624 was, "you must see this film." 1405 01:11:51,708 --> 01:11:55,292 The songs precipitated the interest. 1406 01:11:55,375 --> 01:11:57,958 It was this cultural phenomenon. 1407 01:12:00,875 --> 01:12:02,125 In the first week of release, 1408 01:12:02,208 --> 01:12:05,167 they were having to hire extra staff in some cinemas 1409 01:12:05,250 --> 01:12:06,624 to stop them dancing in the aisles. 1410 01:12:10,417 --> 01:12:11,749 Other movies were being put back 1411 01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:14,208 or taken out of other screens to make room for "fever." 1412 01:12:14,292 --> 01:12:16,666 I mean, it was really quite a phenomenon. 1413 01:12:16,749 --> 01:12:19,333 John took me aside at one point and said, 1414 01:12:19,417 --> 01:12:20,458 "hey, what do you think? 1415 01:12:20,541 --> 01:12:23,292 You think maybe an academy award nomination?" 1416 01:12:23,375 --> 01:12:24,791 And I'm thinking, "Jesus Christ, no." 1417 01:12:24,875 --> 01:12:26,292 I mean, this is ridiculous. 1418 01:12:26,375 --> 01:12:28,333 It's a dance movie, you know? 1419 01:12:28,417 --> 01:12:29,458 He had the last laugh. 1420 01:12:29,541 --> 01:12:31,833 And John Travolta in "Saturday night fever." 1421 01:12:34,708 --> 01:12:35,666 The "fever" thing happened. 1422 01:12:35,749 --> 01:12:37,167 That's when everything exploded. 1423 01:12:37,250 --> 01:12:39,000 Other record companies were printing it. 1424 01:12:39,083 --> 01:12:40,958 Then our record company couldn't keep up the pace. 1425 01:12:41,041 --> 01:12:42,000 We didn't know what was going on 1426 01:12:42,083 --> 01:12:44,958 because this was just a soundtrack. 1427 01:12:45,041 --> 01:12:46,041 Could I ask, for example, 1428 01:12:46,125 --> 01:12:48,541 what "Saturday night fever" has grossed thus far? 1429 01:12:48,624 --> 01:12:50,833 Around 110 million. 1430 01:12:50,916 --> 01:12:53,666 At the moment. In america. 1431 01:12:53,749 --> 01:12:55,499 In america? In america, yeah. 1432 01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:56,833 And the album? 1433 01:12:56,916 --> 01:12:58,958 The album, I think, is nearing 1434 01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:02,292 18 million double albums worldwide. 1435 01:13:02,375 --> 01:13:04,208 But I mean, that would be the recordbreaker of all time. 1436 01:13:04,292 --> 01:13:07,375 Yes, it's already the biggestgrossing album 1437 01:13:07,458 --> 01:13:09,041 in the history of music. 1438 01:13:09,125 --> 01:13:11,541 The statistics are just incredible. 1439 01:13:11,624 --> 01:13:14,250 Four singles from "Saturday night fever" 1440 01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:17,208 have hit number one since the album was released, 1441 01:13:17,292 --> 01:13:20,333 more than from any other new album in history. 1442 01:13:20,417 --> 01:13:22,208 That's just a few of the statistics 1443 01:13:22,292 --> 01:13:25,041 that lead to gold records like this. 1444 01:13:25,125 --> 01:13:27,125 And so it's my privilege to say, 1445 01:13:27,208 --> 01:13:29,417 ladies and gentlemen, will you welcome 1446 01:13:29,499 --> 01:13:31,041 the Bee Gees! 1447 01:13:33,833 --> 01:13:37,250 Has it changed your lives, the enormous success of it? 1448 01:13:38,916 --> 01:13:41,791 Yes, I can safely say it's changed our lives. 1449 01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:46,791 The Bee Gees, I think, were stunned by their success. 1450 01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:51,875 We were aware we were creating a specific sound, 1451 01:13:51,958 --> 01:13:53,375 but we didn't know what it was gonna do. 1452 01:13:55,208 --> 01:13:57,250 It did end up with them having half the top ten 1453 01:13:57,333 --> 01:13:59,125 with these songs. 1454 01:13:59,208 --> 01:14:00,333 It was extraordinary. 1455 01:14:00,417 --> 01:14:01,749 Kind of the same domination the Beatles had 1456 01:14:01,833 --> 01:14:03,292 in the '60s in america. 1457 01:14:05,875 --> 01:14:08,292 They were just everywhere. 1458 01:14:08,375 --> 01:14:10,250 But our own friends don't treat US the same way. 1459 01:14:10,333 --> 01:14:11,749 What, from a distance, they treat you? 1460 01:14:11,833 --> 01:14:14,083 Well, I was speaking to one of my friends the other day, 1461 01:14:14,167 --> 01:14:15,916 and as he was cleaning my shoes, I said, "listen." 1462 01:14:17,375 --> 01:14:18,916 Stigwood said, 1463 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,583 "let's give the band half a point or a quarter." 1464 01:14:20,666 --> 01:14:23,791 Now, that's not a percentage. That's a tiny amount of money. 1465 01:14:23,875 --> 01:14:25,125 But when you sell as many copies 1466 01:14:25,208 --> 01:14:27,708 as "Saturday night fever" sold, 1467 01:14:27,791 --> 01:14:29,833 it turns out to be big money. 1468 01:14:31,916 --> 01:14:32,916 What are you doing 1469 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,541 with these millions of dollars? 1470 01:14:34,624 --> 01:14:36,292 What are you doing with your millions of dollars? 1471 01:14:36,375 --> 01:14:38,666 No. 1472 01:14:38,749 --> 01:14:40,458 It is the biggest night of the year 1473 01:14:40,541 --> 01:14:41,833 for people in the recording industry, 1474 01:14:41,916 --> 01:14:42,916 the grammy awards. 1475 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,458 And the winner is "Saturday night fever." 1476 01:14:45,541 --> 01:14:48,250 Whoo! 1477 01:14:48,333 --> 01:14:51,292 For a soundtrack to win best album was amazing. 1478 01:14:51,375 --> 01:14:52,791 It went on to be one of the bestselling albums 1479 01:14:52,875 --> 01:14:54,167 in history. 1480 01:14:56,875 --> 01:14:59,125 We didn't know we were defining the culture. 1481 01:14:59,208 --> 01:15:01,250 We were just still Barry, Maurice, and Robin 1482 01:15:01,333 --> 01:15:02,749 wondering what the hell's going on. 1483 01:15:11,083 --> 01:15:13,208 The fever has been contagious. 1484 01:15:13,292 --> 01:15:16,000 Discos, the places in which to dance away the night 1485 01:15:16,083 --> 01:15:18,167 and the morning hours, are thriving. 1486 01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:19,791 What the fever has done is made 1487 01:15:19,875 --> 01:15:22,916 just about anything related to disco profitable. 1488 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,499 Where there's money to be made, 1489 01:15:24,583 --> 01:15:26,292 disco is the business. 1490 01:15:26,375 --> 01:15:29,499 We didn't categorize our songs as disco, 1491 01:15:29,583 --> 01:15:31,916 but then we weren't thinking that way at all. 1492 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,333 We were just thinking about writing songs 1493 01:15:33,417 --> 01:15:35,624 based on this discovery of this falsetto voice 1494 01:15:35,708 --> 01:15:37,833 and how well that seemed to work. 1495 01:15:37,916 --> 01:15:39,041 What the Bee Gees brought, 1496 01:15:39,125 --> 01:15:41,833 I always felt they brought melody to disco. 1497 01:15:41,916 --> 01:15:45,167 Most disco at that point was melodyfree, you know? 1498 01:15:45,250 --> 01:15:47,583 This was a different take on disco. 1499 01:15:47,666 --> 01:15:49,458 It was completely for 1500 01:15:49,541 --> 01:15:51,541 for the broadest possible audience. 1501 01:15:51,624 --> 01:15:52,749 You got the lyrics? Yes. 1502 01:15:52,833 --> 01:15:53,791 Great. Right here. 1503 01:15:53,875 --> 01:15:55,250 Okay. Let's go. Straight into it. 1504 01:15:56,833 --> 01:15:58,708 One, two, three, four. 1505 01:16:02,292 --> 01:16:03,833 Right. Okay. 1506 01:16:12,958 --> 01:16:15,375 Hey, guys. It's too slow. 1507 01:16:15,458 --> 01:16:16,583 It would be nice if we could find a bigger sound 1508 01:16:16,666 --> 01:16:17,666 for that solo. 1509 01:16:17,749 --> 01:16:18,666 Great. 1510 01:16:18,749 --> 01:16:19,666 The way we rehearsed it last night. 1511 01:16:19,749 --> 01:16:21,916 All right. 1512 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,041 Yeah. Just like that. 1513 01:16:23,125 --> 01:16:24,041 Yeah. Beautiful. 1514 01:16:24,125 --> 01:16:25,375 Bring that sound in. That's great. 1515 01:16:25,458 --> 01:16:26,791 Yeah. 1516 01:16:26,875 --> 01:16:28,375 Okay, let's try it again. Okay. 1517 01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:30,583 One, two, three, four. 1518 01:16:47,292 --> 01:16:49,041 When we brought out "spirits having flown," 1519 01:16:49,125 --> 01:16:51,083 it did phenomenally well. 1520 01:16:51,167 --> 01:16:54,250 At the same time, "fever" was still in the top ten. 1521 01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:56,749 You know, we could've left it another year, 1522 01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:59,333 and it still probably would've been a little too soon 1523 01:16:59,417 --> 01:17:01,458 with what was going on with "fever." 1524 01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:11,833 Good morning, everybody. 1525 01:17:11,916 --> 01:17:13,791 Charley steiner, 99x. 1526 01:17:13,875 --> 01:17:15,624 As is per usual for Monday, 1527 01:17:15,708 --> 01:17:19,125 a very busy day coming into town. 1528 01:17:19,208 --> 01:17:21,833 I'm working at a top 40 station 1529 01:17:21,916 --> 01:17:23,791 in New York, big one, 1530 01:17:23,875 --> 01:17:26,583 wxlo, but it was known as 99x. 1531 01:17:26,666 --> 01:17:29,541 And I was the morning news guy. 1532 01:17:29,624 --> 01:17:33,499 Most radio stations had a very small playlist, 1533 01:17:33,583 --> 01:17:37,791 and the Bee Gees probably had the top four, top five hits 1534 01:17:37,875 --> 01:17:38,875 any given week. 1535 01:17:38,958 --> 01:17:40,958 13 cfrw. 1536 01:17:41,041 --> 01:17:42,250 Music of the Bee Gees and "tragedy." 1537 01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:43,292 Get out on the dance floor 1538 01:17:43,375 --> 01:17:45,125 and do one more with the Bee Gees. 1539 01:17:45,208 --> 01:17:46,791 All the gibb brothers together, the Bee Gees, 1540 01:17:46,875 --> 01:17:47,958 "you should be dancing." 1541 01:17:48,041 --> 01:17:49,499 You should be shaking that thing one time. 1542 01:17:49,583 --> 01:17:52,333 And for those of US at the radio station, 1543 01:17:52,417 --> 01:17:55,125 we're we're gonna take hostages. 1545 01:17:56,958 --> 01:17:59,167 And if you haven't had enough Bee Gees music yet, 1546 01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:01,333 well, we've got more. 1547 01:18:01,417 --> 01:18:04,167 Guess you could kind of call it overgiving. 1548 01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:05,666 And then Andy gibb too. 1549 01:18:05,749 --> 01:18:09,125 He was like the caboose on this musical train. 1550 01:18:09,208 --> 01:18:12,958 It was like waves in the sea. 1551 01:18:17,292 --> 01:18:19,375 You're right on the top of the world. 1552 01:18:19,458 --> 01:18:22,666 What is it that drives you back on the road? 1553 01:18:22,749 --> 01:18:25,375 When we make records and when we're in the studio, 1554 01:18:25,458 --> 01:18:28,333 we never really see who buys those records. 1555 01:18:28,417 --> 01:18:30,292 I think getting on the road means that to US. 1556 01:18:30,375 --> 01:18:33,208 It means that we come facetoface with people 1557 01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:34,833 to whom our records mean a lot. 1558 01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:38,208 But to be sure, doing a tour is an enormous amount of work. 1559 01:18:38,292 --> 01:18:40,541 The only thing that I noticed that's not right is, 1560 01:18:40,624 --> 01:18:41,875 it doesn't actually say the Bee Gees, 1561 01:18:41,958 --> 01:18:43,041 and I think it should actually 1562 01:18:43,125 --> 01:18:44,125 the Bee Gees' name should be 1563 01:18:44,208 --> 01:18:46,583 it should be "Bee Gees, spirits having flown." 1564 01:18:49,292 --> 01:18:52,000 The '79 tour was a complete sellout. 1565 01:18:52,083 --> 01:18:55,000 The Bee Gees hadn't toured since 1976, 1566 01:18:55,083 --> 01:18:56,624 and that tour was a promotion 1567 01:18:56,708 --> 01:18:58,083 for the "spirits having flown" album, 1568 01:18:58,167 --> 01:18:59,417 but it was celebrating 1569 01:18:59,499 --> 01:19:01,541 "Saturday night fever" as well, you know. 1570 01:19:01,624 --> 01:19:03,541 25,000 people are supposed to be here. 1571 01:19:03,624 --> 01:19:04,791 It's gonna be great. 1572 01:19:04,875 --> 01:19:06,375 You don't mind the Bee Gees in the rain? 1573 01:19:06,458 --> 01:19:07,916 No. No, not at all. 1574 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,916 We've been here since 9:00 this morning. 1575 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,041 They're worth waiting in the rain for. 1576 01:19:12,125 --> 01:19:14,583 I mean, it was huge. 1577 01:19:14,666 --> 01:19:16,749 Dodger stadium, places like that. 1578 01:19:16,833 --> 01:19:18,875 We used to dream of this. 1579 01:19:18,958 --> 01:19:20,958 Having people in the audience like Barbra Streisand 1580 01:19:21,041 --> 01:19:22,749 watching your show and loving it, you know, 1581 01:19:22,833 --> 01:19:25,292 I mean, these are fantasies. 1582 01:19:25,375 --> 01:19:27,083 You're in a sort of goldfish bowl on tour. 1583 01:19:27,167 --> 01:19:28,417 You know, it's like, you don't see much 1584 01:19:28,499 --> 01:19:29,417 of what's going on out there. 1585 01:19:29,499 --> 01:19:31,083 Anyway, the most important thing is 1586 01:19:31,167 --> 01:19:32,292 what we're gonna do after the show. 1587 01:19:32,375 --> 01:19:33,708 What do you wanna do? 1588 01:19:33,791 --> 01:19:35,083 That's what we're here to talk about. 1589 01:19:35,167 --> 01:19:36,583 It's here. 1590 01:19:36,666 --> 01:19:38,417 The disco body shaper, 1591 01:19:38,499 --> 01:19:40,666 the brandnew exerciser sensation 1592 01:19:40,749 --> 01:19:42,250 that's sweeping the country. 1593 01:19:42,333 --> 01:19:44,083 Send for yours today. 1594 01:19:44,167 --> 01:19:47,499 Buy it today, be a disco star tonight. 1595 01:19:47,583 --> 01:19:49,583 Let's disco to burger king. 1596 01:19:49,666 --> 01:19:51,749 It all goes back to one thing 1597 01:19:51,833 --> 01:19:53,417 and the same thing that's happening now: 1598 01:19:53,499 --> 01:19:54,583 Greed. 1599 01:19:56,375 --> 01:20:00,292 Greed is the thing that happens in people 1600 01:20:00,375 --> 01:20:03,333 that really ruins a lot of shit. 1601 01:20:05,041 --> 01:20:06,000 In the beginning, 1602 01:20:06,083 --> 01:20:07,958 you would buy a discobannered record 1603 01:20:08,041 --> 01:20:09,791 and it would be a great song, 1604 01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,666 no matter which one you picked out. 1605 01:20:14,583 --> 01:20:18,833 But then some executive in diapers decided, 1606 01:20:18,916 --> 01:20:21,000 "let's put 'disco' 1607 01:20:21,083 --> 01:20:23,749 on all these records we wanna sell," 1608 01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:26,125 and it wasn't good music anymore. 1609 01:20:26,208 --> 01:20:27,958 It was garbage. 1610 01:20:33,208 --> 01:20:35,749 Get down, mama. 1611 01:20:35,833 --> 01:20:37,000 So that was, I think, the straw 1612 01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:38,208 that broke the camel's back. 1613 01:20:40,791 --> 01:20:42,916 Disco as a purely musical form 1614 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000 is, you know, dead. 1615 01:20:45,083 --> 01:20:46,000 I hated it. 1616 01:20:46,083 --> 01:20:47,458 Couldn't think of anything redeem 1617 01:20:47,541 --> 01:20:48,666 it was old people's music. 1618 01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:51,333 It was a very easy thing 1619 01:20:51,417 --> 01:20:54,833 to get involved with for commercial reasons. 1620 01:20:58,458 --> 01:20:59,833 I'd like to show you 1621 01:20:59,916 --> 01:21:02,208 how we destroy the disco records. 1622 01:21:02,292 --> 01:21:04,499 This is how I do it. 1623 01:21:04,583 --> 01:21:06,833 Have to kind of get worked up a little bit. 1624 01:21:06,916 --> 01:21:08,125 It's like yeah. 1625 01:21:08,208 --> 01:21:10,000 And then I just 1626 01:21:12,041 --> 01:21:13,333 oof. That felt good. 1627 01:21:14,541 --> 01:21:16,333 Our next guest tonight is Steve dahl. 1628 01:21:16,417 --> 01:21:19,208 And he is a disc jockey for station wlupfm 1629 01:21:19,292 --> 01:21:20,875 out in Chicago, Illinois, 1630 01:21:20,958 --> 01:21:22,541 and he hates disco music. 1631 01:21:22,624 --> 01:21:25,375 Steve dahl was kind of hard to avoid in Chicago. 1632 01:21:34,125 --> 01:21:36,541 Steve dahl was on the radio saying, "disco sucks. 1633 01:21:36,624 --> 01:21:38,541 Disco sucks." 1634 01:21:38,624 --> 01:21:40,541 I was 14. 1635 01:21:40,624 --> 01:21:42,541 I listened to the loop, 1636 01:21:42,624 --> 01:21:45,666 the radio station that this kind of centered around. 1637 01:21:45,749 --> 01:21:47,708 He brings helium to the studio, 1638 01:21:47,791 --> 01:21:50,417 inhales it and imitates the Bee Gees on the air, 1639 01:21:50,499 --> 01:21:52,208 and then breaks up their records. 1640 01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:04,916 You know, when you do all those things, 1641 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,458 like put out garbage, 1642 01:22:06,541 --> 01:22:10,250 you know, have radio beingfeeling ostracized 1643 01:22:10,333 --> 01:22:13,250 and a lot of straight people feeling threatened, 1644 01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:17,250 it creates a real poison. 1645 01:22:19,708 --> 01:22:21,041 Hello again, everybody. 1646 01:22:21,125 --> 01:22:23,916 Harry caray and Jimmy piersall from comiskey park, 1647 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,417 where we're gonna have a wild night tonight, 1648 01:22:27,499 --> 01:22:29,041 a twilight doubleheader. 1649 01:22:29,125 --> 01:22:31,583 I was an Usher at comiskey park. 1650 01:22:31,666 --> 01:22:33,125 That was my first job. 1651 01:22:33,208 --> 01:22:36,250 Look at that crowd out there. 1652 01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:37,375 50,000 people, 1653 01:22:37,458 --> 01:22:38,708 the largest crowd of the season, 1654 01:22:38,791 --> 01:22:41,250 showed up at Chicago's comiskey park. 1655 01:22:41,333 --> 01:22:43,125 Many had come for disco demolition night, 1656 01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:44,916 a promotional gimmick. 1657 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,958 15,000 others had to be turned away. 1658 01:22:48,041 --> 01:22:49,125 Steve dahl says, 1659 01:22:49,208 --> 01:22:52,333 "we're gonna let everybody in the white sox park 1660 01:22:52,417 --> 01:22:55,417 "for 98� 1661 01:22:55,499 --> 01:22:57,250 "if you bring a disco record, 1662 01:22:57,333 --> 01:22:58,791 "and we're gonna blow those records up 1663 01:22:58,875 --> 01:23:00,333 in the middle of center field." 1664 01:23:02,708 --> 01:23:05,125 We're letting people in. 1665 01:23:05,208 --> 01:23:09,250 I pointed out to my chief Usher, 1666 01:23:09,333 --> 01:23:11,833 "that record, that record, that record, 1667 01:23:11,916 --> 01:23:14,167 "that record, that record, that record, 1668 01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:16,250 "those aren't disco records. 1669 01:23:16,333 --> 01:23:18,583 Those are just those are R&B records." 1670 01:23:20,958 --> 01:23:24,000 And the thing that I noticed 1671 01:23:24,083 --> 01:23:26,333 more than anything 1672 01:23:26,417 --> 01:23:29,167 was just mostly black records. 1673 01:23:30,875 --> 01:23:31,958 At the same time 1674 01:23:32,041 --> 01:23:34,000 all this stuff is going down in Chicago, 1675 01:23:34,083 --> 01:23:35,833 we were playing the stadiums. 1676 01:23:35,916 --> 01:23:38,375 It was an amazing tour. 1677 01:23:38,458 --> 01:23:41,000 We were sort of, like, in our own little world, 1678 01:23:41,083 --> 01:23:43,125 not thinking about the outside world. 1679 01:24:15,791 --> 01:24:18,333 He struck him out, and the ball game is over. 1680 01:24:22,833 --> 01:24:26,375 Okay, let's Usher Steve down to the explosives 1681 01:24:26,458 --> 01:24:30,375 with a loud "disco sucks" chant. 1682 01:24:30,458 --> 01:24:32,375 Disco sucks! 1683 01:24:32,458 --> 01:24:34,583 All: Disco sucks! 1684 01:24:34,666 --> 01:24:36,666 Disco sucks! 1685 01:24:36,749 --> 01:24:38,833 Disco sucks! 1686 01:24:38,916 --> 01:24:40,749 Disco sucks! 1687 01:24:40,833 --> 01:24:42,250 Disco sucks! 1688 01:24:43,958 --> 01:24:45,541 Ladies and gentlemen, our brother Andy. 1689 01:25:25,583 --> 01:25:26,749 Come on! 1690 01:25:26,833 --> 01:25:28,541 Andy joined US onstage for "you should be dancing," 1691 01:25:28,624 --> 01:25:30,958 and it was the four of US together, 1692 01:25:31,041 --> 01:25:32,583 and Andy joined my mic, 1693 01:25:32,666 --> 01:25:34,458 so we were singing around the one mic, 1694 01:25:34,541 --> 01:25:36,666 and he kept looking up, and he stood back and he goes, 1695 01:25:36,749 --> 01:25:39,041 "can you believe this shit?" 1696 01:25:41,333 --> 01:25:43,749 Nobody could believe what was going on. 1697 01:25:43,833 --> 01:25:45,125 And to see the four of US onstage, 1698 01:25:45,208 --> 01:25:46,583 when I looked over and saw Barry and Robin 1699 01:25:46,666 --> 01:25:48,000 and I saw Andy in front of me, I thought, 1700 01:25:48,083 --> 01:25:50,458 "this is how it's gotta be." 1701 01:25:58,916 --> 01:26:00,624 How 'bout the Bee Gees? 1702 01:26:04,541 --> 01:26:06,292 Well, listen, we took all the disco records 1703 01:26:06,375 --> 01:26:08,499 that you brought tonight, 1704 01:26:08,583 --> 01:26:11,708 threw 'em in a giant box, 1705 01:26:11,791 --> 01:26:15,333 and we're gonna blow 'em up real good. 1706 01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:32,499 One, two, three, boom! 1707 01:26:37,708 --> 01:26:40,000 That blew 'em up real good! 1708 01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:51,167 They'd tell you as an Usher, every now and then, 1709 01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:53,125 you're gonna get a drunk person 1710 01:26:53,208 --> 01:26:54,833 storming the field. 1711 01:26:54,916 --> 01:26:57,375 Try to grab 'em, hold on to 'em, or whatever. 1712 01:26:57,458 --> 01:27:00,167 But everybody ran on the field. 1713 01:27:08,916 --> 01:27:11,208 When I got older, I recognized 1714 01:27:11,292 --> 01:27:15,708 that this was actually the end of a era. 1715 01:27:18,292 --> 01:27:19,708 It was a book burning. 1716 01:27:19,791 --> 01:27:22,167 It was a racist, 1717 01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:25,041 homophobic book burning. 1718 01:27:25,125 --> 01:27:28,666 And the Bee Gees got caught up in that 1719 01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,083 because they were part of that culture 1720 01:27:31,167 --> 01:27:33,875 that was lifting a lot of people up. 1721 01:27:39,666 --> 01:27:40,958 Thank you. We love you. 1722 01:27:41,041 --> 01:27:43,333 And we'll see you again. Byebye. 1723 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,791 Nearly 7,000 spectators held their very own demolition. 1724 01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:56,666 Game two of the doubleheader was canceled last night. 1725 01:27:56,749 --> 01:28:00,208 That game will be forfeited. 1726 01:28:00,292 --> 01:28:02,499 The antidisco movement 1727 01:28:02,583 --> 01:28:05,083 was almost antibee gees at that point. 1728 01:28:05,167 --> 01:28:07,916 Ironically, the soundtrack to "Saturday night fever," 1729 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,916 the album that made them superstars, 1730 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,583 also branded them as a disco group. 1731 01:28:12,666 --> 01:28:14,250 Because you can dance to it, I mean, 1732 01:28:14,333 --> 01:28:15,916 doesn't necessarily make it a disco song. 1733 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,583 I mean, you can dance to lots of songs. 1734 01:28:17,666 --> 01:28:20,000 You really don't wanna be labeled "disco"... 1735 01:28:20,083 --> 01:28:21,292 No, no. At all, do you? 1736 01:28:21,375 --> 01:28:23,000 Because our music is a variety 1737 01:28:23,083 --> 01:28:24,250 of different kinds of music. 1738 01:28:24,333 --> 01:28:25,958 It shouldn't be called just that. 1739 01:28:26,041 --> 01:28:28,000 So people hated disco. 1740 01:28:28,083 --> 01:28:30,167 Hated it. 1741 01:28:30,250 --> 01:28:31,583 We had FBI and secret service 1742 01:28:31,666 --> 01:28:33,624 around the airplane every time we landed in a certain place 1743 01:28:33,708 --> 01:28:35,458 'cause of the bomb threats. 1744 01:28:35,541 --> 01:28:37,958 It was scary stuff. 1745 01:28:38,041 --> 01:28:39,292 We were perplexed, 1746 01:28:39,375 --> 01:28:40,708 'cause I got that vibe from them. 1747 01:28:40,791 --> 01:28:42,499 You know, "why are people doing this?" 1748 01:28:42,583 --> 01:28:44,250 The Bee Gees claim 1749 01:28:44,333 --> 01:28:46,458 some radio stations around the country 1750 01:28:46,541 --> 01:28:49,167 are refusing to play their new single. 1751 01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:50,458 The Bee Gees are not allowed to have a hit 1752 01:28:50,541 --> 01:28:51,791 because they had a lot of success 1753 01:28:51,875 --> 01:28:52,958 with "Saturday night fever." 1754 01:28:53,041 --> 01:28:54,125 That, to me, is crap. 1755 01:28:54,208 --> 01:28:56,791 Radio is, of course, very difficult to get back 1756 01:28:56,875 --> 01:28:58,250 once you lose them. 1757 01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:00,541 Back then, if you weren't on the radio, 1758 01:29:00,624 --> 01:29:01,624 there was nothing. 1759 01:29:01,708 --> 01:29:03,541 Let's all grow up. We're just a pop group. 1760 01:29:03,624 --> 01:29:04,833 We're not a political force. 1761 01:29:04,916 --> 01:29:06,333 We're just making music. 1762 01:29:06,417 --> 01:29:07,916 But I don't think there's any reason to chalk US off 1763 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,499 because we existed in the '70s 1764 01:29:09,583 --> 01:29:11,499 and we would like to exist in the '80s, you know. 1765 01:29:11,583 --> 01:29:14,375 Does anybody mind if we exist in the '80s, thank you? 1766 01:29:14,458 --> 01:29:17,000 It was so overwhelming, 1767 01:29:17,083 --> 01:29:20,041 and the whole dynamic changed. 1768 01:29:20,125 --> 01:29:22,791 There were just crazy days. 1769 01:29:22,875 --> 01:29:25,041 I preferred Maurice as Maurice not being a bee gee, 1770 01:29:25,125 --> 01:29:26,499 if that makes sense to you. 1771 01:29:26,583 --> 01:29:30,041 I preferred him as Maurice, not being a bee gee. 1772 01:29:30,125 --> 01:29:31,708 Suddenly, they realized 1773 01:29:31,791 --> 01:29:34,000 that they were in a different position. 1774 01:29:34,083 --> 01:29:37,083 Robin went through a kind of 1775 01:29:37,167 --> 01:29:39,833 it wasn't a breakdown, but it was just something 1776 01:29:39,916 --> 01:29:43,208 where he felt very shy of being in public 1777 01:29:43,292 --> 01:29:45,417 and doing things for a while. 1778 01:29:45,499 --> 01:29:48,041 The backlash was a very frightening experience. 1779 01:29:48,125 --> 01:29:49,833 When things get to that point, 1780 01:29:49,916 --> 01:29:53,208 you're out of control of the whole thing. 1781 01:29:53,292 --> 01:29:55,167 We thought the Bee Gees better go on the back burner 1782 01:29:55,250 --> 01:29:57,375 for a while until this dies down 1783 01:29:57,458 --> 01:29:59,041 or something, you know. 1784 01:29:59,125 --> 01:30:01,417 We couldn't do anything as the Bee Gees at all. 1785 01:30:03,292 --> 01:30:05,458 Well, backlash, I'm really good on. 1786 01:30:09,666 --> 01:30:13,541 Any band that is successful 1787 01:30:13,624 --> 01:30:16,499 is going to have 1788 01:30:16,583 --> 01:30:20,208 some form of resist that's just the law of nature. 1789 01:30:21,292 --> 01:30:23,417 When they get so successful, 1790 01:30:23,499 --> 01:30:24,916 sometimes the only interesting thing 1791 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,292 to say about them is, "I don't like them. 1792 01:30:27,375 --> 01:30:29,458 "Everyone else likes, you know, 'how deep is your love.' 1793 01:30:29,541 --> 01:30:32,333 I don't you know, it's stupid." 1794 01:30:32,417 --> 01:30:34,250 For bands of my generation, 1795 01:30:34,333 --> 01:30:36,250 you understand about the ups and downs. 1796 01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:38,583 You can see it. Like, where are the pitfalls? 1797 01:30:38,666 --> 01:30:40,916 What is the shit you're gonna take? 1798 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,083 When might this happen? When might that happen? 1799 01:30:43,167 --> 01:30:44,958 For those people that were on the first wave 1800 01:30:45,041 --> 01:30:48,208 of sort of global pop superstardom, 1801 01:30:48,292 --> 01:30:49,958 if you wanna call it that, 1802 01:30:50,041 --> 01:30:51,083 it was new to them. 1803 01:30:51,167 --> 01:30:52,916 Like, "why does everyone suddenly hate our band? 1804 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,083 "We sold 8 billion records last year. 1805 01:30:55,167 --> 01:30:57,208 What's the deal?" 1806 01:30:57,292 --> 01:30:59,458 So it's confusing. 1807 01:30:59,541 --> 01:31:01,250 It was not just the Bee Gees 1808 01:31:01,333 --> 01:31:07,458 but the idea of dance in that period, 1810 01:31:07,541 --> 01:31:10,417 it was no longer acceptable 1811 01:31:10,499 --> 01:31:13,000 for this kind of music to carry the weight, 1812 01:31:13,083 --> 01:31:15,000 to carry the industry. 1813 01:31:16,666 --> 01:31:18,499 Everybody was at that point in their lives 1814 01:31:18,583 --> 01:31:22,375 where they began to look for other things to do. 1815 01:31:23,875 --> 01:31:26,417 And Andy was having problems too. 1816 01:31:26,499 --> 01:31:30,125 Andy? Andy... I saw him in Malibu. 1818 01:31:30,208 --> 01:31:31,250 He'd been involved 1819 01:31:31,333 --> 01:31:33,624 with a lot of people who were doing drugs, 1820 01:31:33,708 --> 01:31:35,333 and he was doing drugs. 1821 01:31:35,417 --> 01:31:37,791 He was doing cocaine. 1822 01:31:37,875 --> 01:31:40,583 I talked to him outside on the balcony, 1823 01:31:40,666 --> 01:31:42,583 saying, you know, "this is really a nice house, Andy. 1824 01:31:42,666 --> 01:31:44,749 "It's a nice car out there, that Porsche. 1825 01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:46,000 "Really nice. 1826 01:31:46,083 --> 01:31:48,375 You're not gonna keep all this, you know." 1827 01:31:48,458 --> 01:31:49,833 And he said, "what do you mean?" 1828 01:31:49,916 --> 01:31:51,833 I said, "you do what you're doing, 1829 01:31:51,916 --> 01:31:53,333 "this stuff will vanish. 1830 01:31:53,417 --> 01:31:54,791 "All this stuff will go. 1831 01:31:54,875 --> 01:31:57,167 Your career will go out the window, everything." 1832 01:31:57,250 --> 01:32:00,208 And he says, "I know. I know. I know what I have to do." 1833 01:32:00,292 --> 01:32:03,041 There was a lot of chaos that I didn't witness, 1834 01:32:03,125 --> 01:32:05,666 but I was aware of it. 1835 01:32:05,749 --> 01:32:07,000 We were scattered all over the place 1836 01:32:07,083 --> 01:32:08,333 for a little while. 1837 01:32:10,292 --> 01:32:14,041 Robin was either in New York, or Maurice was in england. 1838 01:32:14,125 --> 01:32:15,499 I was alone at the time, 1839 01:32:15,583 --> 01:32:18,000 and I got a phone call from Barbra. 1840 01:32:20,791 --> 01:32:23,333 She asked me about writing songs for her, 1841 01:32:23,417 --> 01:32:26,666 and that terrified me. 1842 01:32:26,749 --> 01:32:29,375 I don't know if I can do this, you know? 1843 01:32:29,458 --> 01:32:30,708 So I called my brothers, 1844 01:32:30,791 --> 01:32:33,375 and I said, "this is what we gotta do. 1845 01:32:33,458 --> 01:32:35,499 And let's do it." 1846 01:32:35,583 --> 01:32:37,749 And that's how the "guilty" album came about. 1847 01:32:41,958 --> 01:32:44,833 We really could not get on the radio. 1848 01:32:44,916 --> 01:32:48,375 So the whole idea was to write for other people. 1849 01:32:48,458 --> 01:32:49,708 Let's be songwriters. 1850 01:32:49,791 --> 01:32:52,417 Let's try and graduate from being a group 1851 01:32:52,499 --> 01:32:55,583 that's probably... 1852 01:32:55,666 --> 01:32:58,000 Beginning to fade, you know? 1853 01:32:58,083 --> 01:33:00,708 Let's see if we can dance around that. 1854 01:33:10,292 --> 01:33:12,583 It was more about outlets for writing, 1855 01:33:12,666 --> 01:33:16,125 writing songs that aren't Bee Gees songs. 1856 01:33:16,208 --> 01:33:18,083 They have an attitude somewhere else. 1857 01:33:33,541 --> 01:33:36,083 Now, Robin, you and Barry cowrote "woman in love," 1858 01:33:36,167 --> 01:33:38,541 which became the international smash. 1859 01:33:38,624 --> 01:33:41,208 Was it difficult taking the woman's perspective? 1860 01:33:41,292 --> 01:33:43,791 No. 1861 01:33:43,875 --> 01:33:45,250 It's our way of doing things. 1862 01:33:45,333 --> 01:33:46,292 We will assume that role 1863 01:33:46,375 --> 01:33:47,916 within the song to write the song. 1864 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,875 After the Barbra Streisand album, 1865 01:33:49,958 --> 01:33:52,083 managers would call up all the time: 1866 01:33:52,167 --> 01:33:53,958 "Gee, can I get together with you guys? 1867 01:33:54,041 --> 01:33:55,333 Will you make my record?" 1868 01:33:55,417 --> 01:33:56,833 And, you know, established artists. 1869 01:34:12,708 --> 01:34:13,791 It was just as important for US 1870 01:34:13,875 --> 01:34:15,583 to have an artist singing one of our songs 1871 01:34:15,666 --> 01:34:18,333 and being on the radio as it was for ourselves. 1872 01:34:27,666 --> 01:34:29,458 When you write a song with someone in mind 1873 01:34:29,541 --> 01:34:31,000 that you really love 1874 01:34:31,083 --> 01:34:33,833 and then that person ends up singing it, 1875 01:34:33,916 --> 01:34:35,624 there's no reward like it. 1876 01:34:47,708 --> 01:34:50,833 We wrote so many different types of song, 1877 01:34:50,916 --> 01:34:53,666 and that created that new determination 1878 01:34:53,749 --> 01:34:56,833 for US to become the Bee Gees again. 1879 01:35:05,916 --> 01:35:07,583 I think, over time, 1880 01:35:07,666 --> 01:35:10,041 we became more and more unified. 1881 01:35:10,125 --> 01:35:11,499 By '85, 1882 01:35:11,583 --> 01:35:13,041 we really got it together as a group. 1883 01:35:15,250 --> 01:35:17,791 We became a real band again. 1884 01:35:29,833 --> 01:35:31,624 We never really had a category. 1885 01:35:31,708 --> 01:35:33,875 We just had different periods, 1886 01:35:33,958 --> 01:35:36,499 and we managed to fit into different eras, 1887 01:35:36,583 --> 01:35:38,375 and we saw a lot of people 1888 01:35:38,458 --> 01:35:41,499 who were the champions of their era come and go. 1889 01:35:41,583 --> 01:35:44,499 We didn't always connect, but we stayed around. 1890 01:35:44,583 --> 01:35:46,791 We managed to defy the criticism 1891 01:35:46,875 --> 01:35:47,875 most of the time. 1892 01:35:54,666 --> 01:35:55,875 And I just hope and pray 1893 01:35:55,958 --> 01:35:58,250 that the music lasts, you know? 1894 01:35:58,333 --> 01:35:59,749 Because I begin to recognize 1895 01:35:59,833 --> 01:36:01,875 that there's not as much time in front of me 1896 01:36:01,958 --> 01:36:04,624 as there is behind me. 1897 01:36:10,833 --> 01:36:11,916 Hi, Australia. 1898 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,791 This is Andy gibb here in Miami, 1899 01:36:13,875 --> 01:36:15,583 and I'd like to wish all you kids 1900 01:36:15,666 --> 01:36:16,958 one more time? 1901 01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,083 Hi, Australia. 1902 01:36:21,167 --> 01:36:22,749 This is Andy gibb here in Miami, 1903 01:36:22,833 --> 01:36:24,125 and I'd like to wish all the kids 1904 01:36:24,208 --> 01:36:26,791 and all my friends in Australia a very merry Christmas 1905 01:36:26,875 --> 01:36:28,125 and a happy new year. 1906 01:36:48,499 --> 01:36:49,666 Barry was first, 1907 01:36:49,749 --> 01:36:51,791 and then, in fact, Robin's half an hour older than I am, 1908 01:36:51,875 --> 01:36:53,250 and we're twins, 1909 01:36:53,333 --> 01:36:55,958 and that's how we basically met. 1910 01:37:10,250 --> 01:37:11,458 Robert stigwood, this is for you. 1911 01:37:11,541 --> 01:37:12,458 No, you didn't do it. 1912 01:37:12,541 --> 01:37:13,791 You gotta react to the thing. What line? 1913 01:37:13,875 --> 01:37:14,958 The reaction? 1914 01:37:15,041 --> 01:37:15,958 Yeah. All right. 1915 01:37:16,041 --> 01:37:17,499 It's a closeup. Okay. 1916 01:37:17,583 --> 01:37:19,041 Yeah, that's right. Sorry, do it again. 1917 01:37:19,125 --> 01:37:20,458 Yeah, do it again. Do it again. 1918 01:37:20,541 --> 01:37:22,000 Okay. 1919 01:37:22,083 --> 01:37:23,624 Robert stigwood, this is for you. 1920 01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:47,292 Ladies and gentlemen, 1921 01:37:47,375 --> 01:37:49,833 an Oscar nominee for "Saturday night fever," 1922 01:37:49,916 --> 01:37:52,458 John Travolta. 1923 01:37:52,541 --> 01:37:54,541 Tonight 1924 01:37:54,624 --> 01:37:57,125 the recording academy is celebrating 1925 01:37:57,208 --> 01:38:00,167 three brothers who changed my life 1926 01:38:00,250 --> 01:38:02,541 and the world of music forever, 1927 01:38:02,624 --> 01:38:05,624 and though brothers Robin and Maurice are sadly gone, 1928 01:38:05,708 --> 01:38:08,666 we are thrilled to be joined by a brother like no other, 1929 01:38:08,749 --> 01:38:11,458 one of the most successful singersongwriters 1930 01:38:11,541 --> 01:38:14,417 of our times, my friend Barry gibb. 1931 01:38:40,250 --> 01:38:43,292 They're a brilliant chapter in the book of music. 1932 01:38:43,375 --> 01:38:44,875 You know, some people are a footnote. 1933 01:38:44,958 --> 01:38:45,916 Some people take up 1934 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,458 the Beatles and Dylan take up huge 1935 01:38:48,541 --> 01:38:49,875 but the Bee Gees are there. 1936 01:38:57,292 --> 01:38:59,458 You go back and look at their body of work, 1937 01:38:59,541 --> 01:39:01,916 and it's some of the best songs ever written. 1938 01:39:05,292 --> 01:39:06,749 There's nothing else to say about the Bee Gees 1939 01:39:06,833 --> 01:39:08,417 except they were fucking awesome. 1940 01:39:52,041 --> 01:39:55,458 When I think about it now, 1941 01:39:55,541 --> 01:39:57,875 I think about how it all sort of started. 1942 01:39:59,541 --> 01:40:01,791 We just had this dream, 1943 01:40:01,875 --> 01:40:04,292 and we thought, "well, 1944 01:40:04,375 --> 01:40:06,292 what do we want to be famous for?" 1945 01:40:08,417 --> 01:40:11,041 It turns out it was the songwriting. 1946 01:40:14,916 --> 01:40:18,041 And I think everything we set out to do, 1947 01:40:18,125 --> 01:40:20,208 we did, against all odds. 1948 01:40:22,417 --> 01:40:24,333 I can't honestly come to terms with the fact 1949 01:40:24,417 --> 01:40:26,167 that they're not here anymore. 1950 01:40:26,250 --> 01:40:28,167 Never been able to do that. 1951 01:40:32,417 --> 01:40:34,167 I'm always reliving it. 1952 01:40:34,250 --> 01:40:35,499 It's always, "what would Robin think?" 1953 01:40:35,583 --> 01:40:37,333 Or, "what would Maurice think?" 1954 01:40:37,417 --> 01:40:39,167 And Andy. 1955 01:40:39,250 --> 01:40:40,624 It never goes away. 1956 01:40:43,749 --> 01:40:47,041 And what I wanted to say earlier 1957 01:40:47,125 --> 01:40:49,000 is that I'd rather have 'em all back here, 1958 01:40:49,083 --> 01:40:50,583 no hits at all. 1959 01:44:56,125 --> 01:44:59,167 Barry, Barry, Barry, 1960 01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:03,666 Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, 1961 01:45:03,749 --> 01:45:08,624 Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry. 1962 01:45:14,208 --> 01:45:16,833 One, two, three, four. 146216

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