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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,417 In St. Peter's square, the final sequences are being shot 2 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:29,155 for federico fellini's latest film, the white sheik. 3 00:00:29,263 --> 00:00:32,289 What were you trying to prove with 7he white sheik? 4 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:36,859 I wasn't trying to prove anything. I have no message for humanity. 5 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:38,131 I'm sorry. 6 00:00:39,373 --> 00:00:41,864 In all sincerity, 7 00:00:41,975 --> 00:00:44,603 I was trying, first and foremost, to make an entertaining film. 8 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:47,441 Actually, I wanted to entertain myself. 9 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:51,382 You see - and I hope no producers are listening - 10 00:00:51,485 --> 00:00:57,446 I think of films as wonderful toys, marvelous pastimes. 11 00:00:57,558 --> 00:01:01,221 Since you consider making films an entertainment, 12 00:01:01,328 --> 00:01:03,694 are you concerned about a film's success or not? 13 00:01:03,797 --> 00:01:06,231 If a film were wildly successful, 14 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:08,494 if absolutely everybody liked it, 15 00:01:08,602 --> 00:01:11,503 I think I would be greatly concerned. 16 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:17,040 I hope it's moderately successful, so I can make more. 17 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:36,519 The theme of the journey is, I think, 18 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:42,933 one of the great foundations of the art of narration. 19 00:01:43,036 --> 00:01:45,698 All my films are about a journey - 20 00:01:45,806 --> 00:01:49,264 be it an actual or an imaginary journey, like the one in / vitelloni, 21 00:01:49,376 --> 00:01:54,439 where the protagonist dreams of leaving the small town for the Metropolis. 22 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:58,279 La strada is the story of the wanderings of creatures 23 00:01:58,385 --> 00:02:02,617 bound together by an inscrutable destiny, 24 00:02:02,723 --> 00:02:05,055 which takes them from town to town, 25 00:02:05,158 --> 00:02:07,649 village to village, season to season. 26 00:02:07,761 --> 00:02:12,255 La dolce vila is a journey through the inauthentic. 27 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:22,835 Preparation for the film was a rather adventurous process. 28 00:02:23,343 --> 00:02:29,304 But I think everything's okay now. Rizzoli, the producer, trusts me, 29 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:34,883 and I think I'll be able to get to work with my usual enthusiasm. 30 00:02:38,058 --> 00:02:42,461 Here at the trevi fountain, we have an appointment this evening 31 00:02:42,562 --> 00:02:46,089 with a friend who has had much success over the last few years. 32 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,566 A friend who, in the postwar years, 33 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:54,664 made a living writing humorous articles, drawing, 34 00:02:54,775 --> 00:02:57,369 and recording on vinyl the voices of American soldiers - 35 00:02:57,477 --> 00:02:59,758 of those soldiers, that is, who wanted to send a recording 36 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:02,373 to their loved ones far away. 37 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:05,110 We are all familiar with our friend's youth, 38 00:03:05,218 --> 00:03:08,915 because we saw it in a highly autobiographical film, 39 00:03:08,989 --> 00:03:10,286 [I vitellon/. 40 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:12,790 You'll have realized by now that I speak of federico fellini, 41 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:16,090 who has invited us here to watch the filming of la dolce vita, 42 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:18,460 the film he's shooting at the moment, 43 00:03:18,565 --> 00:03:20,931 and this here is one of the most important scenes. 44 00:03:24,438 --> 00:03:25,598 Hi, federico. 45 00:03:26,306 --> 00:03:29,707 I see a man in the fountain. 46 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:32,278 - Do you want to know who he is? - Yes. 47 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:34,704 I'm shooting a scene with Anita Ekberg, 48 00:03:34,815 --> 00:03:37,943 one of the protagonists of my film. 49 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,818 In this scene, an American actress, exhilarated by the beauty of Rome, 50 00:03:45,926 --> 00:03:50,556 discovers the trevi fountain one night and decides to take a dip. 51 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:55,499 Right now we're taking measurements and adjusting the focus of the lens, 52 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:58,298 and since we can't keep Anita in the fountain all day, 53 00:03:58,405 --> 00:04:00,100 we're using a male stand-in. 54 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:02,971 You're hard at work here, but whenever I see you working, 55 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:06,773 I can't help but think of your other, perhaps more burdensome work 56 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,370 of preparation for each film. 57 00:04:08,482 --> 00:04:11,849 I know that even now that you are well-known and successful, 58 00:04:11,952 --> 00:04:15,979 you still have to appease skeptical producers. 59 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:19,217 I'm used to it by now. In fact, if it were ever not that way, 60 00:04:19,326 --> 00:04:24,127 I'd worry that the film would not be as successful as its predecessors. 61 00:04:24,231 --> 00:04:29,669 So I willingly accept these trials 62 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:31,863 in the preparation of every film. 63 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:36,204 For this film too, there were those who were perplexed, worried, alarmed, 64 00:04:36,309 --> 00:04:37,309 but in the end - 65 00:04:37,377 --> 00:04:41,370 if you could spare some time while you prepare the next shot - 66 00:04:41,481 --> 00:04:43,915 I'll be with you in a moment. 67 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:45,712 It's a complicated shot. 68 00:04:45,819 --> 00:04:49,220 You go ahead. I'll be right there. 69 00:04:57,731 --> 00:05:03,192 You mentioned the difficulties you encounter at the outset of each film, 70 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:05,635 but let's talk about this one, 1. A dolce vita. 71 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:09,231 I've heard there was even one producer who attempted suicide. 72 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:12,106 - You mean the incident with the ink? - Yes. 73 00:05:12,779 --> 00:05:15,646 It was really a joke. 74 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:20,311 That producer was so worried about how I wanted to make the film 75 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:23,651 that he said he would rather kill himself than make my movie. 76 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:27,557 Since at the time his only weapon was a bottle of ink, 77 00:05:27,661 --> 00:05:29,925 he raised it to his lips to poison himself. 78 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:34,057 He thought the cap was on the bottle, 79 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:37,898 but it wasn't, so he stained his shirt. 80 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:40,632 But I found the gesture very appealing. 81 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:46,303 I saw a great energy in him, 82 00:05:46,413 --> 00:05:49,974 so I decided on the spot I wanted to make the film with him. 83 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:53,712 All ink-related incidents aside, he's an excellent producer. 84 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:57,654 He was able to understand the script very clearly, 85 00:05:57,757 --> 00:06:01,989 whereas it has created a lot of unrest and perplexity 86 00:06:02,095 --> 00:06:06,031 in the minds of many other producers. 87 00:06:06,132 --> 00:06:08,259 So I'm glad I chose to work with him. 88 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:13,396 This, too, will be an autobiographical film, like the others. 89 00:06:13,506 --> 00:06:15,946 Are there recognizable episodes taken directly from your life? 90 00:06:16,009 --> 00:06:21,470 Yes. In a way, it's an ideal sequel to / vitelloni. 91 00:06:21,581 --> 00:06:24,607 Moraldo has come to the big city. He has become a journalist, 92 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:28,381 and he has achieved a certain level of success. 93 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:33,551 So the film is the tale of his adventures as a reporter, 94 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:35,594 combined with parts of his private life. 95 00:06:35,695 --> 00:06:39,597 We'll see Rome as we've come to know her in the past three or four years, 96 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:44,762 this chaotic explosion of the city in every direction. 97 00:06:44,871 --> 00:06:49,831 - With its various characters. - Strange characters and encounters. 98 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:53,811 The film is autobiographical in the sense that 99 00:06:53,914 --> 00:06:57,714 it's the sum of encounters I've had over the past few years. 100 00:06:57,817 --> 00:07:01,548 I've traveled the world screening my films, 101 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:05,455 and this has been my life: 102 00:07:05,558 --> 00:07:07,685 Airports, having to travel at a moment's notice, 103 00:07:07,794 --> 00:07:10,558 the extraordinary people I've met. 104 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:15,761 It's a feverish life, if you will, a life that turns into publicity. 105 00:07:15,869 --> 00:07:20,203 I see there's quite a crowd here tonight. 106 00:07:20,307 --> 00:07:25,939 Everywhere we go, there's a crowd of curious romans. 107 00:07:26,046 --> 00:07:28,776 This is a fun scene to watch, 108 00:07:28,882 --> 00:07:34,843 since Anita Ekberg is going to dive into the trevi fountain. 109 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:37,185 Speaking of which, you'll have to excuse me, 110 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:39,281 because I think they're calling me back. 111 00:07:42,529 --> 00:07:46,329 All night long, in response to her character's demands, 112 00:07:46,433 --> 00:07:49,231 Anita Ekberg remained in the cold water of the fountain, 113 00:07:49,336 --> 00:07:51,668 as the director ordered her to. 114 00:07:51,771 --> 00:07:55,138 Anita is Swedish, so, like a true viking, she's not afraid of the cold. 115 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:57,368 But at dawn, when she emerged from the fountain, 116 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:02,278 we didn't have the heart to ask her to linger with us for an interview. 117 00:08:02,382 --> 00:08:07,081 The crowd that had gathered had a chance to see firsthand 118 00:08:07,187 --> 00:08:10,987 that an actress' life is not made only of cocktail parties and glamour. 119 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:26,298 You wrote to a friend, 120 00:08:26,406 --> 00:08:28,806 "the idea for la dolce vita came to me 121 00:08:28,908 --> 00:08:31,433 when I saw a woman dressed like an artichoke." 122 00:08:31,544 --> 00:08:33,544 Yes, I must have said something about an artichoke. 123 00:08:33,613 --> 00:08:37,640 I can't remember if it was really an artichoke or some other vegetable, 124 00:08:38,385 --> 00:08:40,444 but one sunny morning on the via veneto, 125 00:08:40,553 --> 00:08:43,181 I saw this figure of a woman, 126 00:08:43,289 --> 00:08:48,522 and this little woman was the spark that set in motion a series of emotions 127 00:08:48,628 --> 00:08:51,495 tied to the aristocracy of Rome 128 00:08:51,598 --> 00:08:56,262 and the world in which so many cinematographic rituals are played out: 129 00:08:56,369 --> 00:08:59,338 The excesses, the fancy hotels, the Americans... 130 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:06,838 I'm with federico fellini and producer peppino amato 131 00:09:06,946 --> 00:09:08,675 here on the via veneto. 132 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:11,546 This is a special evening. Everyone's here tonight. 133 00:09:11,651 --> 00:09:14,586 There's Pierre brasseur next to annibale ninchi. 134 00:09:14,687 --> 00:09:17,121 Anna Maria luciani next to chirima. 135 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,386 There's luise rainer, and also a very special via veneto. 136 00:09:20,493 --> 00:09:23,018 As you can see, it's actually a set, 137 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:25,825 built at cinecitta for fellini's film. 138 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:29,164 The via veneto could be considered the heart of the film. 139 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:32,067 Many scenes take place on the via veneto, 140 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:37,007 because the protagonist, marcello, has his office right above this café. 141 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:42,412 This allows him to keep tabs not only on Roman nightlife, 142 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:44,449 but also on a more Cosmopolitan life 143 00:09:44,551 --> 00:09:47,543 that unfolds in the many cafes along the via veneto. 144 00:09:47,654 --> 00:09:50,248 I shot a few wide shots on the actual via veneto, 145 00:09:50,356 --> 00:09:56,591 but because of all the traffic, in the end I followed the advice of peppino amato, 146 00:09:56,696 --> 00:10:00,097 who told me from the start that I couldn't shoot on the via veneto. 147 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,667 But I was stubborn. 148 00:10:01,768 --> 00:10:04,828 I was afraid something would be lost if I caved in and built a set. 149 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,578 Peppino amato placed all the resources of cinecitta at my disposal, 150 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,905 and they built a reconstruction of the via veneto which, as you can see, 151 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:12,910 leaves nothing to be desired. 152 00:10:13,012 --> 00:10:17,312 I was able to go all out and shoot as if I were really on the via veneto, 153 00:10:17,417 --> 00:10:20,284 but with all the amenities of a set. 154 00:10:20,386 --> 00:10:23,549 The architect has been amazing. 155 00:10:23,656 --> 00:10:26,682 He's incredibly creative. The details are realistic, 156 00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:28,953 but at the same time, there's a certain transformation. 157 00:10:29,028 --> 00:10:31,519 His name is piero gherardi. He worked with me on la strada, 158 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:34,532 nights of cabiria, and now la dolce vita. 159 00:10:40,106 --> 00:10:41,835 What are you up to, federico? 160 00:10:44,043 --> 00:10:45,601 - You're doing the mix? - Yes. 161 00:10:45,712 --> 00:10:47,976 - I'm mixing la dolce vita. - I see. 162 00:10:48,081 --> 00:10:50,709 Listen, when were you born? 163 00:10:51,451 --> 00:10:55,046 January 20, 1931. 164 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:58,613 - I thought it was 1932. - Actually, it was January 20, 1920, 165 00:10:58,725 --> 00:11:02,422 - s0 I'm almost 40 years old. - That old, eh? Listen. 166 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:06,459 - That means you're a capricorn. - That's right. Capricorn. 167 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,728 It says here that those born under that sign are very ambitious. 168 00:11:11,804 --> 00:11:12,804 Is that true? 169 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:19,103 Yes, but I was born at 11:45 on the last day of capricorn. 170 00:11:19,212 --> 00:11:20,804 If I had been born 15 minutes later, 171 00:11:20,914 --> 00:11:23,542 I would have been under the new sign, aquarius. 172 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:28,246 So I have the faults of both capricorn and aquarius. 173 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:30,618 What does it say here? 174 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:32,555 Ambitious. 175 00:11:32,659 --> 00:11:36,151 But here it says those born under aquarius exude purity and Serenity. 176 00:11:36,262 --> 00:11:39,060 So besides ambitious, I'm pure and serene. 177 00:11:39,165 --> 00:11:42,293 Passionate, cold, detached, ironic. 178 00:11:42,402 --> 00:11:43,960 Not bad, eh? 179 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:45,264 What does that say? 180 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:51,867 It says their emotional life takes a back seat to their work. 181 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:53,636 No, that's not true. 182 00:11:53,746 --> 00:11:58,080 Does that mean that he would leave lovers and friends for his work? 183 00:11:58,184 --> 00:12:01,415 No, I don't think that's me. 184 00:12:01,521 --> 00:12:05,958 But, as fond as I am of you, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me work. 185 00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:09,119 Then you know what? I'm going to leave. Bye. 186 00:13:05,985 --> 00:13:07,282 A fascinating grand tableau 187 00:13:07,387 --> 00:13:09,107 a disturbing and searing portrait of our era 188 00:13:52,699 --> 00:13:57,898 I think our duty as storytellers is to bring people to the station. 189 00:13:58,004 --> 00:14:00,438 There, each person will choose his or her train 190 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:04,203 according to their taste and stage of development. 191 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:07,438 But we must at least take them to the station. 192 00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:10,243 I would like la dolce vita to take each spectator, 193 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:13,410 while respecting their individual personality, and without pontificating, 194 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,850 to a point of departure. 195 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:20,859 I'd like to suggest that my audience maintain a receptive attitude. 196 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,897 Listen, and I'll tell you my story with an almost shameless sincerity. 197 00:14:25,998 --> 00:14:29,764 Don't try to understand or interpret. Simply listen to what I have to say. 198 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:34,067 These are the passions, the hopes, the fears, the cowardice, 199 00:14:34,173 --> 00:14:38,269 the anguish of a man who feels just like you. 200 00:14:40,513 --> 00:14:44,142 Look, federico, they're all here, all kinds of battleships, 201 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:47,413 - even aircraft carriers. - Yes, it's the fleet of that captain 202 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,685 who made a scene last night because I didn't call him. 203 00:14:52,792 --> 00:14:55,386 He wanted to send a plane to Rome to pick up Anita Ekberg 204 00:14:55,495 --> 00:14:59,727 and take her to a party on the ship. 205 00:15:00,666 --> 00:15:03,601 My room is next to fellini's. 206 00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:06,501 I'm glad, of course, because federico is a good friend, 207 00:15:06,606 --> 00:15:10,474 but I must say that I'm also a little disappointed, 208 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:14,672 because fellini has wonderful dreams. 209 00:15:14,781 --> 00:15:16,373 He's famous for his dreams. 210 00:15:16,482 --> 00:15:19,940 I thought, of course, that he would shout his dreams out during the night, 211 00:15:20,052 --> 00:15:22,247 or sing, but I didn't hear a thing. 212 00:15:22,355 --> 00:15:24,789 Haven't you been dreaming in cannes? 213 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:28,224 I can't tell you my dreams on TV. 214 00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:34,967 Besides, I haven't really been able to sleep through the night here. 215 00:15:35,067 --> 00:15:37,228 For one thing, I'm full of curiosity. 216 00:15:37,336 --> 00:15:40,499 I like to walk along the croisette. 217 00:15:41,307 --> 00:15:44,299 And I'm also hounded by... 218 00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:48,141 A film's fate is always a funny thing. 219 00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:51,944 See those three Canadians down there? They've been there for hours. 220 00:15:52,051 --> 00:15:54,315 They've been following me for a couple of days, 221 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:57,787 because they want to know why steiner killed the children. 222 00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:59,653 Steiner is a character in la dolce vita. 223 00:16:00,393 --> 00:16:04,124 Earlier, I got a call from a spaniard 224 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:06,926 who wanted to know what kind of fish it was 225 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:08,967 that appears at the end of the movie. 226 00:16:09,068 --> 00:16:12,595 He says they've never seen a fish like that in Spain. 227 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:14,536 He wanted me to send him one. 228 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:22,608 Then last night I met a man who, I believe, was a sailor on leave. 229 00:16:22,715 --> 00:16:26,515 He went around with a pair of women's shoes tucked into his back pockets. 230 00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:30,919 He stopped me - he was American - 231 00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:34,288 and he said, "fellini, I didn't like your film. 232 00:16:34,393 --> 00:16:39,387 I don't believe for a moment that life is as strange as you depict it." 233 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:44,162 But the funniest was a lady I met this morning. She had a golden nose. 234 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:48,604 She was in a Cadillac and was holding a monkey in her arms. 235 00:16:48,708 --> 00:16:53,304 She had her driver stop the car and said, "are you fellini?" 236 00:16:57,683 --> 00:17:01,642 "How come there's not even one normal person in your film?" 237 00:17:33,419 --> 00:17:36,877 My intention was to communicate a feeling of chaos, of disorder. 238 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:39,753 There are no characters, only apparitions. 239 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,293 No episodes, only fragments. 240 00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:51,167 The film's original title was 241 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:56,264 in spite of everything, life is profoundly and mysteriously sweet. 242 00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:59,708 We live in a brutal, terrifying world, 243 00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:03,805 but it's also magnificent and seductive. 244 00:18:05,718 --> 00:18:07,583 You sealed the success of la dolce vita 245 00:18:07,687 --> 00:18:11,316 by jumping up at the end of the screening and clapping loudly and enthusiastically. 246 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:15,053 A very unorthodox reaction for the judge of a festival. 247 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:16,628 What provoked it? 248 00:18:17,229 --> 00:18:19,720 I had the distinct impression 249 00:18:19,832 --> 00:18:23,097 that I had seen an exceptionally vigorous piece of work 250 00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:26,103 that will leave an important Mark in the history of cinema. 251 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:32,869 What I had seen was unprecedented and alive. 252 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:34,947 At the same time, I had discovered an artist 253 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,708 rich in both strength and sensitivity. 254 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:38,750 He's a fully formed artist. 255 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:44,321 And I want to add that I admire fellini both as a director and as a man. 256 00:18:44,423 --> 00:18:48,826 What do you think fellini represents in our artistic and cultural world? 257 00:18:48,928 --> 00:18:54,730 Fellini represents a rare sincerity, one that never compromises, 258 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:59,294 that is faithful to itself and takes responsibility for itself. 259 00:18:59,405 --> 00:19:02,568 Do you understand? Fellini is all alone with his stories. 260 00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:05,200 He doesn't belong to any of the many fads. 261 00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:09,805 He doesn't come from any school. In fact, he's created his own school. 262 00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:13,442 He is an original creator, which is equally rare. 263 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:39,668 Bergman says, "I'm not here to bring peace but war to your souls." 264 00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:43,340 Is there a similar aim behind your provocations? 265 00:19:43,449 --> 00:19:45,280 Bergman really said that? 266 00:19:46,052 --> 00:19:51,080 Well, aside from the emphatic tone, 267 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:52,714 I think he's right. 268 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:56,124 I think an artist - or any man, really - 269 00:19:56,228 --> 00:20:00,164 has to face doubts and problems steadfastly. 270 00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:01,927 He has to accept his own war, 271 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:06,869 as opposed to glossing over conflict by pacifying and calming it. 272 00:20:06,972 --> 00:20:11,773 I think that's what gives dignity to the mission of the artist, 273 00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:13,708 and to the mission of being a man. 274 00:20:13,813 --> 00:20:16,646 At times you've been criticized for being baroque and confused. 275 00:20:16,749 --> 00:20:18,876 What's your reaction to this accusation? 276 00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,578 This thing about mental confusion 277 00:20:21,687 --> 00:20:25,248 is typical of a reactionary and dogmatic attitude. 278 00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:28,554 They think one should have crystal-clear ideas about everything, 279 00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:32,324 and that everything should be interpreted according to strict rules of rationality. 280 00:20:32,431 --> 00:20:33,796 They leave no room for doubt. 281 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:40,335 I think that the vital confusion of life 282 00:20:40,439 --> 00:20:46,309 is our only salvation against these dogmatic mummifications. 283 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:51,543 What is the feeling or emotion that inspires and nourishes you most? 284 00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:57,547 I don't know. Perhaps the attempt to recapture, 285 00:20:57,656 --> 00:21:02,457 to hear once more an utterance that's been interrupted, 286 00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:06,258 repeated each time with a weaker and weaker voice, 287 00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:08,856 until I could no longer hear it. 288 00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:15,432 This feeling of grasping at the frayed ends of a broken string. 289 00:21:15,541 --> 00:21:18,806 I realize I'm being a little lyrical, 290 00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:23,041 but if you want me to tell you what emotion is most nourishing 291 00:21:23,149 --> 00:21:27,279 and stimulating to my way of expressing myself, of living, 292 00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:28,751 I'd have to say it's this: 293 00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:31,084 Straining to hear, with my ears and my heart, 294 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:34,785 something that's been nearly forgotten. 295 00:21:39,331 --> 00:21:40,491 How did it go in the us? 296 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,093 In the us, the film was incredibly successful. 297 00:21:43,202 --> 00:21:48,299 It received a very flattering reception from both the press and the audiences. 298 00:21:48,407 --> 00:21:52,207 Speaking of press, what were their most frequently used adjectives? 299 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:54,973 Adjectives get over-inflated over there. 300 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,344 They happily throw around words like... 301 00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:03,117 Which doesn't mean terrifying, but just very impressive. 302 00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:06,385 They say that your film - I don't know if it's just a rumor - 303 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:09,393 will increase hat sales in the United States. Why? 304 00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:15,193 Yes. A hat manufacturer from Boston came to my hotel 305 00:22:15,301 --> 00:22:18,930 and wanted my written permission to mass-produce 306 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:22,769 the hat that marcello mastroianni wears in the film and call it "8 1/2." 307 00:22:22,875 --> 00:22:27,335 In the states, 8 1/2 is a hat size corresponding to our 39 or 40. 308 00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:31,109 - Of course, you jumped at the chance. - No, but it was a nice offer. 309 00:22:31,217 --> 00:22:35,745 But if I'd been smarter, I could have profited from the offer. 310 00:22:45,998 --> 00:22:48,967 I got the impression the jury wanted to reward something 311 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:51,127 that was more important: 312 00:22:51,237 --> 00:22:55,674 A new direction, or the hint of a new direction. 313 00:22:55,774 --> 00:23:00,871 It gave me a real thrill. 314 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:04,575 I've spoken to these young Soviet directors, 315 00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:08,551 and they were really cheering for my film and wanted it to win, 316 00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:14,388 because it would have given them hope for real change. 317 00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:18,259 I feel that this award to & 7/2, and not because it's my film, 318 00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:24,701 testifies to the need for a renewal that is already taking place. 319 00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:29,502 I'm moved. I feel responsible and surprised. 320 00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:34,409 I feel like an innocent who has created a sensation in this faraway land. 321 00:23:34,513 --> 00:23:35,639 We too were moved. 322 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:39,047 Do you think they truly understood your film over there? 323 00:23:39,151 --> 00:23:41,676 I don't know whether or not they understood it. 324 00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:43,914 Their appreciation was strongly conditioned 325 00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,821 by the rather scant Russian subtitles. 326 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,417 I can tell you one thing about this huge audience. 327 00:23:49,528 --> 00:23:51,519 There were 8,000 people there, 328 00:23:51,630 --> 00:23:54,360 and they watched the movie with rapt attentiveness. 329 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:57,026 I found the silence even embarrassing at times. 330 00:23:57,136 --> 00:24:00,537 I come here with my extremely personal film, 331 00:24:00,639 --> 00:24:03,540 and I force it upon these people, who watch it so respectfully. 332 00:24:03,642 --> 00:24:07,339 Judging by the extremely warm applause at the end of the screening, 333 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,438 I think they must have gotten something out of it. 334 00:24:11,517 --> 00:24:14,884 If nothing else, the strange fascination of an unknown reality. 335 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:21,586 They introduced me to a cosmonaut, titov, who came to congratulate me, 336 00:24:21,694 --> 00:24:24,663 and I said, "did you like my film?" 337 00:24:25,564 --> 00:24:28,727 He said, "yes, I found it more mysterious than the cosmos." 338 00:24:31,537 --> 00:24:33,971 Fiumicino airport, 1.00 P.M. 339 00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:38,442 Al the security checkpoint are Mr. federico fellini, born in rimini, 340 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:42,948 his wife giulietta fellini, aka giulietta masina, 341 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:47,885 and Alessandra ergas, aka Milo. 342 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,956 Theyre the three main members of an Italian contingent 343 00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:55,152 on its way to Hollywood and the Santa Monica civic auditorium 344 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,058 lo fake part in the most important film event in the world: 345 00:24:58,163 --> 00:25:01,963 The 1964 academy awards. 346 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:03,728 My first question is: 347 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:07,499 Is it true that 8 7/2 has been awarded 58 different prizes? 348 00:25:07,606 --> 00:25:10,769 I don't think so. It sounds like one of those numbers 349 00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:15,609 that press agencies like to throw around very casually. 350 00:25:15,714 --> 00:25:21,311 It has been awarded many prizes, and of course we're very pleased. 351 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:24,719 But I think we should have this conversation when we get back. 352 00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:30,557 We could come back empty-handed. The oscars are serious business. 353 00:25:30,662 --> 00:25:33,102 You really don't know who's won up until the very last minute. 354 00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:35,497 But you're going anyway, because you have high hopes. 355 00:25:35,601 --> 00:25:37,501 We're going because we were invited, 356 00:25:37,603 --> 00:25:41,972 and I also have a few actors I would like to cast in the us. 357 00:25:42,074 --> 00:25:44,008 Anyway, you're competing for five academy awards, 358 00:25:44,109 --> 00:25:45,906 as far as the more important categories go. 359 00:25:46,011 --> 00:25:51,074 8 1/2 is nominated not only for best foreign film, 360 00:25:51,183 --> 00:25:53,981 but for four other important awards as well. 361 00:25:54,086 --> 00:25:58,352 Best director, best original screenplay, 362 00:25:58,457 --> 00:26:01,551 best set design and best costumes. 363 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:05,892 It's certain to win one of those, especially best director. 364 00:26:05,998 --> 00:26:10,435 It's bad luck to make predictions like that. 365 00:26:10,536 --> 00:26:12,003 Not another word, then. 366 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:15,767 We wish you all good luck 367 00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:19,435 and hope you'll return with the famous gold statuettes in your hands. 368 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:39,390 Federico, what number Oscar is this? 369 00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:43,798 It's my third. I won one for la strada for best foreign film, 370 00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:45,699 and another for nights of cabiria. 371 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:50,067 Then la dolce vita got an Oscar for best costumes. 372 00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:54,839 - Is it the first time you've come? - No, I came in '56 for la strada. 373 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,710 Then, for nights of cabiria, 374 00:26:56,815 --> 00:27:01,980 since I didn't think I would win, 375 00:27:02,087 --> 00:27:04,920 and I was busy with another film, giulietta came instead. 376 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:12,559 Do you think this Oscar has international value? 377 00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:16,794 I think the Oscar is the award 378 00:27:16,902 --> 00:27:19,029 held in highest esteem internationally. 379 00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:25,168 It's the most legendary award... 380 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:32,075 The one to which everyone aspires as the highest, ultimate prize. 381 00:27:41,927 --> 00:27:46,557 In the movies, fad follows upon fad, 382 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:51,329 like waves in the ocean that pummel the California shore. 383 00:27:52,271 --> 00:27:57,937 Fellini is neither a hew wave nor an old one. 384 00:27:58,043 --> 00:27:59,567 He is his own wave, 385 00:27:59,678 --> 00:28:03,614 according to the opinions of the entire world. 386 00:28:04,249 --> 00:28:10,154 Another director who has created his own style, 387 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:14,658 and who has left his Mark, even on the age-old genre of the western, 388 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,594 without imitating anyone else, is king vidor. 389 00:28:19,898 --> 00:28:26,462 Frank Perry has introduced a new, intimate style 390 00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:28,972 with his David and Lisa. 391 00:28:29,074 --> 00:28:30,837 These three directors, 392 00:28:31,843 --> 00:28:35,210 who, instead of representing three different schools, 393 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:38,306 perhaps represent three highly unique individuals. 394 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,352 Could you spare two words in any language, frank? 395 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:51,019 I only have one thing to say, and that is, 396 00:28:51,129 --> 00:28:58,126 I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, Mr. fellini is a giant. 397 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,603 - I'm sorry. - You're embarrassing me. 398 00:29:01,707 --> 00:29:05,074 Aren't you ashamed to say things like that to me in public? 399 00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:08,271 Tell marcello I'll be waiting for him upstairs. 400 00:29:10,515 --> 00:29:12,915 Tell him not to keep me waiting. 401 00:29:13,018 --> 00:29:14,246 I don't get it. 402 00:29:14,886 --> 00:29:18,754 Yesterday morning you said it would be fine. 403 00:29:18,857 --> 00:29:20,984 Why do we keep going back and forth? 404 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:26,998 If you color the eyes that way, it changes the effect. 405 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:35,264 Like this, see? I can't really see them very well. 406 00:29:37,175 --> 00:29:39,769 Squeeze my hand tight. Sit still. Just be natural. 407 00:29:39,878 --> 00:29:42,779 I know you believe in these things. 408 00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:45,162 You're being watched over by a spirit from the other side. 409 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:48,777 I've always told you so. Today, you'll be disappointed. 410 00:29:48,887 --> 00:29:51,219 You won't be very happy with today's shoot. 411 00:29:51,323 --> 00:29:53,257 - Let me try for a second. - Of course. 412 00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:55,656 I want to see if you'll be successful. 413 00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:57,558 What would you like to be? 414 00:29:57,663 --> 00:30:00,461 I want to be an actor like gagliostro. 415 00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:04,057 - An actor like gagliostro? - I'd like to do something great. 416 00:30:04,169 --> 00:30:06,467 What's going on with that gate? 417 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:13,968 Shut the gate. 418 00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:19,339 - All right. - Let's go, giulietta. 419 00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:23,053 Clear the background. 420 00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:26,319 Places. 421 00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:37,598 Bring me a sandwich. 422 00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:44,540 Two slices of focaccia and just one slice of veal. 423 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,674 Let's go. Are we ready? Ready, pasqualino? 424 00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:57,752 Come on, Marisa. It's just a rehearsal. 425 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,051 Sorry. Are we ready? 426 00:31:00,892 --> 00:31:02,154 Silence! 427 00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:08,128 Go on, giulietta. Wait a second. When she moves. 428 00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:09,791 First, she stands still. 429 00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:12,233 - Go on, giulietta. - Marisa, bring the glasses. 430 00:31:12,337 --> 00:31:15,636 - Elisabetta. - Elisabetta, bring out the glasses. 431 00:31:15,741 --> 00:31:16,741 Come forward. 432 00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:22,547 Good. Come, giulietta. 433 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:29,983 Wait, giulietta. Look that way. 434 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:32,522 Take a step over. Go, minicuccio. 435 00:31:38,163 --> 00:31:42,122 Taste it and tell me if you like it. 436 00:31:47,005 --> 00:31:49,872 Delicious. What's it called? 437 00:31:49,975 --> 00:31:54,344 Sangria. It's a special drink. 438 00:31:56,982 --> 00:31:58,506 Here, have some more. 439 00:31:59,184 --> 00:32:00,708 Pasquale, tell me if it looks right. 440 00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:02,899 Everything's perfect. I would have said so otherwise. 441 00:32:02,954 --> 00:32:04,649 - Can you see my hand? - No. 442 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:06,656 Is it Spanish-looking? 443 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:17,926 Now you finish drinking, and when I say "there," you look here. 444 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:20,968 Okay, let's shoot it. 445 00:32:25,544 --> 00:32:28,980 Come on, elisabetta. Places. 446 00:33:17,696 --> 00:33:20,688 He goes to sleep at night and in the morning wakes up with an idea. 447 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:26,135 He tells us his idea, and we do whatever he tells us to do. 448 00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:30,334 At this point, we know him. He's eccentric. 449 00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:34,344 He gets these ideas at night. He never stops thinking. 450 00:33:34,446 --> 00:33:38,382 Go on, elisabetta! You should have been here an hour ago! 451 00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:40,446 Places. 452 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,650 Elisabetta, you have to come out much sooner. 453 00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:47,418 Otherwise, when are you going to come out? When I say "cut"? 454 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:50,256 Let's go. Places. Roll camera! 455 00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:54,290 Elena, stay back. Stay seated. 456 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,731 No, stay back at first. 457 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:02,200 Back straight, Valentina. Go down. Elena, come in. 458 00:34:02,307 --> 00:34:07,210 Get up. Go toward the kitchen. Wait. Start over. 459 00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:11,705 When she got up, she started going backwards. 460 00:34:15,086 --> 00:34:18,988 When I was a screenwriter, or even earlier, when I was a reporter, 461 00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:22,651 and I would visit directors on their sets, 462 00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:25,992 either to revise a script or just to interview them, 463 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:30,432 the one thing that astonished and fascinated me in a director 464 00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:35,905 was how he could command 50 or 100 people, 465 00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:39,238 and make these actresses, these beautiful women, 466 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,743 do whatever he wanted, 467 00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:45,282 without making them feel awkward or shy. 468 00:34:45,383 --> 00:34:48,443 I thought it would be the last profession on earth 469 00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,748 I would ever feel qualified to practice. 470 00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:54,655 - Scene 223, take 3. - Music! 471 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:04,496 Action! 472 00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:16,379 Go! One, two, away! 473 00:35:16,982 --> 00:35:20,247 Here's where we have the "march of the gladiators." 474 00:35:21,219 --> 00:35:23,551 This is how I want it to be, nino. 475 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:26,089 I'm very tempted, frankly, to leave this piece of music in, 476 00:35:26,191 --> 00:35:30,992 because it evokes a mood so immediately. 477 00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,588 In fact, I used it because it's the march used in the circus. 478 00:35:35,166 --> 00:35:37,634 But at the same time, 479 00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:43,766 I don't want it to evoke the circus so realistically and literally. 480 00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:47,369 In the same way that I tried to make the visual images 481 00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:50,573 like the memory of the circus as a child might remember it, 482 00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:52,741 I'd like - and only you can do this - 483 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:56,548 a piece of music that evokes the atmosphere of the circus 484 00:35:56,655 --> 00:35:59,590 and the "march of the gladiators," while being completely different. 485 00:35:59,691 --> 00:36:02,956 In other words, a memory of the "march of the gladiators." 486 00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:07,122 Like the "grandfather's waltz"? That might be - 487 00:36:07,198 --> 00:36:08,198 what waltz? 488 00:36:08,266 --> 00:36:11,633 It's a waltz, but perhaps with a different tempo - 489 00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:15,968 but a waltz has a very different, more delicate, slow tempo. 490 00:36:16,775 --> 00:36:18,242 How could it be adapted to... 491 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,771 How would the waltz go? 492 00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:11,352 Altention, please. Due to technical difficulties, 493 00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:15,024 we are forced fo attempt an emergency landing. 494 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,725 An emergency landing. 495 00:37:24,743 --> 00:37:30,113 This is mastorna, the hero of my film. A cellist. 496 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:36,417 His journey was supposed to begin like this, 497 00:37:36,521 --> 00:37:40,480 with a crash landing in the Plaza of an unknown city. 498 00:37:46,364 --> 00:37:48,798 But the journey ended immediately, as you can see. 499 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:50,959 Actually, it never began. 500 00:37:53,404 --> 00:37:56,567 If you encounter an obstacle, you have to be more humble, 501 00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:58,938 and try to understand that if the obstacle exists, 502 00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:02,308 it must have a meaning, a purpose in your life. 503 00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:05,473 Instead of beating your head against it, 504 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,519 why not try to understand what it's doing there? 505 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:12,351 If you can't lift your suitcase, 506 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:15,085 there's no use whining about how heavy it is. 507 00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:18,526 Why not try setting it down for a moment? 508 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:21,997 And at that moment you'll draw a sigh of relief. 509 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,728 "But I don't have my suitcase.” but at least you're breathing. 510 00:38:24,836 --> 00:38:27,703 That's something. You'll get it later. Or leave it there. 511 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:30,001 Maybe you weren't meant to take the suitcase with you. 512 00:38:33,578 --> 00:38:36,046 Enough about mastorna. Let's talk about your new film. 513 00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,513 Another journey, but this time a journey through time. 514 00:38:38,616 --> 00:38:40,311 Photography for fellini satyricon 515 00:38:40,418 --> 00:38:43,478 is about to begin right here on cinecitta's soundstage number 2. 516 00:38:45,924 --> 00:38:49,724 I feel a profound analogy between that dying society, 517 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:55,095 a society of men waiting for something to happen, 518 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,830 for a profound change, which in fact took place. 519 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,067 The myth of Christ - 520 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:06,507 today, I feel that our generation is in a similar situation. 521 00:39:06,611 --> 00:39:09,136 We feel that things have to change. 522 00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:12,273 But I don't mean the government has to change. 523 00:39:12,383 --> 00:39:15,409 We have to change our relationship with life itself. 524 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,819 So we're waiting - I, for one, am very trusting and optimistic - 525 00:39:18,923 --> 00:39:23,758 for a profound change, almost on a biological level. 526 00:39:58,496 --> 00:40:01,431 Repeat after me, "one, two." 527 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,630 Keep your voice very low. 528 00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:07,334 Three, four. 529 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:09,903 No. One, two, three, four. 530 00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:15,911 - You tell me when to say it. - When I say go, you say it. 531 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,174 One, two. 532 00:40:17,782 --> 00:40:19,079 Three, four. 533 00:40:22,153 --> 00:40:24,815 When you get there, and not before. 534 00:40:26,891 --> 00:40:28,756 Very quietly. Quietly, quietly... 535 00:40:33,498 --> 00:40:35,398 No, wait till you're there. 536 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,668 One, two. Three, four. 537 00:40:38,736 --> 00:40:39,736 There. 538 00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:46,002 Okay, let me take a look. 539 00:40:46,711 --> 00:40:47,871 Roll camera. 540 00:40:55,586 --> 00:41:00,649 Now, minicuccio. One, two, three, four. 541 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:04,655 Cut. That's good. 542 00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:07,595 Two artists, one Italian and one Swedish, 543 00:41:07,699 --> 00:41:13,501 namely fellini and bergman, have decided to join forces and make a film. 544 00:41:13,604 --> 00:41:16,801 The project is still very vague. 545 00:41:16,908 --> 00:41:21,140 Which means that it's rich and vast. 546 00:41:21,746 --> 00:41:26,547 Limits are always confining. The ideal situation is not to have limits. 547 00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:31,149 Why are we in such a good mood? We're both so far away from the project. 548 00:41:31,255 --> 00:41:33,815 I'm busy with satyricon, and he's busy with other things. 549 00:41:33,925 --> 00:41:35,517 No, I'm just kidding. 550 00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:37,685 It's a very stimulating project, 551 00:41:37,795 --> 00:41:41,891 and I feel our approach should be somewhat carefree. 552 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,061 Our fascinating profession is not really a profession 553 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:48,798 as much as the realization of a calling, and so it's full of joy. 554 00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:52,342 But in the long run, the danger of slipping into routine is real, 555 00:41:52,443 --> 00:41:54,274 and routine can be suffocating. 556 00:41:54,379 --> 00:41:59,544 A project like this restores a certain freedom to our work, 557 00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:05,418 a breaking out of the mold, 558 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:09,152 which I think is very healthy. 559 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:13,959 We mustn't jeopardize this health by going into details. 560 00:42:14,065 --> 00:42:16,499 What do you like about bergman? 561 00:42:18,469 --> 00:42:21,438 I appreciate... 562 00:42:23,841 --> 00:42:28,676 The authenticity of this race of storytellers. 563 00:42:28,780 --> 00:42:32,580 He doesn't make films as a profession. 564 00:42:32,683 --> 00:42:35,777 He makes films because it's his calling. 565 00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:38,082 I admire him. I'm moved by him. 566 00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:43,286 I'm relieved and comforted to encounter an artist like this 567 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:45,885 who pursues self-realization, 568 00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:52,926 who fuses his life and his destiny with the calling he was born to. 569 00:42:57,809 --> 00:43:01,643 I've always admired the way fellini tells his stories, 570 00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:05,580 how he puts his soul info his stories. 571 00:43:05,683 --> 00:43:11,144 Even if he told of a world very far removed from my own, 572 00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:14,452 I thought of him as a brother. 573 00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:19,861 I think our collaboration will be very stimulating, 574 00:43:19,964 --> 00:43:23,661 and I'm sure some excellent films will result from it 575 00:43:24,735 --> 00:43:30,799 fellini has arrived in venice for the screening of his fellini satyricon. 576 00:43:30,908 --> 00:43:34,207 Initially, luchino visconti and antonioni were supposed to come as well. 577 00:43:34,312 --> 00:43:39,181 So I let a certain sentimental patriotism get the best of me, 578 00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:42,218 and I said, "since our cinema, let's be honest, is going through 579 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,256 a rather dark moment, the idea of going to the festival in venice 580 00:43:46,357 --> 00:43:49,326 with luchino and antonioni, two colleagues whom I admire 581 00:43:49,427 --> 00:43:51,952 and with whom I identify, not so much in terms of our results, 582 00:43:52,063 --> 00:43:54,190 but in terms of how they make their movies, 583 00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:57,529 the idea of playing the part of the three aging and arthritic musketeers 584 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,433 who raise high again the flag of Italian cinema." 585 00:44:00,538 --> 00:44:02,972 It seemed to be our duty, and a fun idea. 586 00:44:03,074 --> 00:44:05,872 Then it turned out that luchino wasn't quite ready, 587 00:44:05,977 --> 00:44:08,673 and neither was antonioni, so I was left alone. 588 00:44:08,779 --> 00:44:12,840 So what was I supposed to do? Go to procida or pantelleria? 589 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,068 Good evening, fellini. 590 00:44:34,972 --> 00:44:36,064 How are you? 591 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:37,971 This is the... 592 00:44:39,644 --> 00:44:42,442 - So you really came. - We're stealing him away from you. 593 00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:44,439 I'll see you later. 594 00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:49,717 So you really want to do this? 595 00:44:52,456 --> 00:44:55,550 It's Saturday. What will you do tomorrow? 596 00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:58,652 I'll get up at 6:30. 597 00:44:59,864 --> 00:45:01,661 I'll throw open the shutters. 598 00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:04,234 Giulietta will complain and tell me to close them. 599 00:45:04,335 --> 00:45:07,736 So I'll close them. Then I should exercise a little. 600 00:45:07,838 --> 00:45:11,899 I've even brought those special Springs. They're lying in a corner. 601 00:45:12,009 --> 00:45:16,446 I don't think they'll ever leave that corner until it's time to leave. 602 00:45:17,949 --> 00:45:23,444 Then I shave, go downstairs, buy the newspapers. 603 00:45:24,088 --> 00:45:27,649 I go through them anxiously to see if they're talking about me, of course. 604 00:45:28,192 --> 00:45:31,855 Then I go to the spring. I stand in line. 605 00:45:32,363 --> 00:45:37,562 I listen to the various little orchestras playing cavalleria rusticana. 606 00:45:39,103 --> 00:45:42,334 Then I take the water cure. I drink a glass of water. 607 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,341 I come back here to the grand hotel. I have breakfast. 608 00:45:46,444 --> 00:45:50,403 I take a nap and dream dreams I'll never tell you about. 609 00:45:50,514 --> 00:45:54,473 Then I go out. I go back to the newsstand, where I buy more papers. 610 00:45:54,585 --> 00:45:57,554 I sit down. I have the typewriter brought down to me. 611 00:45:57,655 --> 00:46:02,718 I insert a sheet of paper, but then I don't know whom to write to. 612 00:46:02,827 --> 00:46:07,025 Actually, these empty hours are when I get myself in trouble, 613 00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:10,965 because I call people with whom 614 00:46:11,068 --> 00:46:14,902 it took me years to sever the relationship. 615 00:46:15,006 --> 00:46:20,171 Or I write letters to people who then feel obliged to write back. 616 00:46:20,278 --> 00:46:24,612 Downtime is dangerous for me, because I tend to reestablish relationships 617 00:46:24,715 --> 00:46:27,741 I had worked very hard to sever. 618 00:46:28,819 --> 00:46:30,252 Then I walk around chianciano, 619 00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:33,187 feeling a little like the inventor and owner of the town, 620 00:46:33,291 --> 00:46:36,055 since chianciano looks a little like a set on one of my films, 621 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,323 because this is where I had the idea for & 7/2, 622 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:41,523 and it's a town I've portrayed on film. 623 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:48,333 So there's this surreal feeling of a set that's been used and set aside. 624 00:46:48,439 --> 00:46:52,739 It somehow continues to survive, which always surprises me. 625 00:46:52,843 --> 00:46:55,710 I feel like it should be taken down. The movie is done. 626 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,678 Why does it continue to exist? 627 00:46:58,749 --> 00:47:00,876 Then, dinner at the grand hotel. 628 00:47:01,786 --> 00:47:04,550 Then, sometimes in the evening, a friend from Rome will visit. 629 00:47:07,358 --> 00:47:11,419 We'll take a stroll. We'll say we should live in the country. 630 00:47:11,529 --> 00:47:14,191 "Doesn't the air smell fresh? Isn't it nice to be close to nature?" 631 00:47:15,433 --> 00:47:18,800 And then, when the evening bells begin to ring, 632 00:47:18,903 --> 00:47:24,671 we're all struck by a moment of regret, the usual emotional blackmail. 633 00:47:24,775 --> 00:47:30,111 I remember certain Sundays in rimini, on the deserted streets, 634 00:47:30,214 --> 00:47:34,947 the empty squares, the pointless walks we took, 635 00:47:35,052 --> 00:47:38,021 with the intention of having fun because it was Sunday. 636 00:47:38,122 --> 00:47:43,526 We were expected to have fun. We waited for this day to have fun. 637 00:47:43,627 --> 00:47:49,588 And I remember suddenly these bells ringing, this chain reaction of bells, 638 00:47:50,501 --> 00:47:57,464 that planted a feeling of sadness, fear and unease in your heart. 639 00:47:57,575 --> 00:48:02,069 When it's unexpected and sneaks up on you by surprise, 640 00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:05,205 you sort of jump and feel like, 641 00:48:05,316 --> 00:48:09,616 "it's time to change my ways, to stop being a wvitellone. 642 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:14,419 It's time to behave, to be a good husband, a good citizen." 643 00:48:15,126 --> 00:48:17,686 These are Sundays that you remember, connected to your memories. 644 00:48:17,795 --> 00:48:20,286 Yes, but my memories are very often figments of my imagination. 645 00:48:20,398 --> 00:48:23,834 I can no longer distinguish between what actually happened... 646 00:48:23,934 --> 00:48:26,061 In fact, now and then my mother says, 647 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:28,331 "when did you ever run away with the circus? 648 00:48:28,439 --> 00:48:31,533 When were you ever in boarding school?” 649 00:48:32,143 --> 00:48:35,374 And I say, "I really think it happened.” 650 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,141 That's what it means to have a vivid imagination. 651 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:46,481 I think one's hometown has to do with an area of one's memory 652 00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:49,423 in which certain presences are stored. 653 00:48:49,527 --> 00:48:54,021 Our moms, our dads, and therefore also our relationships with them. 654 00:48:54,131 --> 00:48:59,797 I have trouble seeing my city objectively and in realistic, concrete terms. 655 00:48:59,904 --> 00:49:04,500 It's like diving into a dimension that belongs to the past. 656 00:49:04,608 --> 00:49:07,509 Do you still feel something for the rimini of your youth? 657 00:49:08,879 --> 00:49:13,316 In concrete terms, that's impossible. It's changed completely. 658 00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:17,911 It was almost totally destroyed during the war, 659 00:49:18,022 --> 00:49:19,751 so it's changed enormously. 660 00:49:19,857 --> 00:49:22,792 Naturally, when I go back to rimini, 661 00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:28,160 I nostalgically seek out certain buildings, certain back alleys, 662 00:49:28,265 --> 00:49:30,426 a certain window or facade. 663 00:49:30,534 --> 00:49:33,628 But in this sense, rimini has changed completely. 664 00:49:33,737 --> 00:49:37,229 Did the rimini of your imagination ever actually exist? 665 00:49:37,341 --> 00:49:43,075 For me, that half made-up, half dreamed-up, 666 00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:47,514 half reinterpreted rimini, steeped in nostalgia, 667 00:49:47,618 --> 00:49:49,813 is much more real than the other rimini. 668 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,185 What did the grand hotel represent for you as a boy? 669 00:49:54,158 --> 00:50:00,461 That was the architectural embodiment of all my fantasies of opulence, 670 00:50:00,564 --> 00:50:05,058 riches, the most lascivious sexual fantasies. 671 00:50:05,169 --> 00:50:09,333 I'm fond of amarcord in the same way that I'm fond of the others. 672 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,240 Do you think the American or Japanese public perceives it in the same way? 673 00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:14,709 And why? 674 00:50:14,812 --> 00:50:18,805 I think if you talk about the things you know, 675 00:50:18,916 --> 00:50:24,149 about yourself, your family, your town, 676 00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:29,557 the snow, the rain, the bullying, stupidity, ignorance, 677 00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:36,190 hopes, fantasies, political or religious conditioning - 678 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:43,229 if you talk about life with sincerity, without trying to lecture anyone, 679 00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:47,470 without being too heavy-handed in your philosophizing 680 00:50:47,578 --> 00:50:49,569 or in the messages you send - 681 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,778 when you talk about life with humility, 682 00:50:55,886 --> 00:51:01,153 and most of all with a sense of proportion for things, 683 00:51:01,258 --> 00:51:06,059 I think everyone will be able to identify with you, 684 00:51:06,163 --> 00:51:08,131 and make your story their own. 685 00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:12,566 I think that the characters in amarcord, in this small Hamlet, 686 00:51:12,670 --> 00:51:15,434 for the very reason that they are limited to this little town, 687 00:51:15,539 --> 00:51:20,533 a town I've known very well, and whose characters, real or imagined, 688 00:51:20,644 --> 00:51:24,341 I either knew or imagined very well, 689 00:51:24,448 --> 00:51:28,407 they suddenly no longer belong to you but to others as well. 690 00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:31,488 When did you find out about the Oscar? 691 00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:38,358 I found out from Alberto sordi. He called me at 8:15 and said, 692 00:51:38,462 --> 00:51:41,761 "federico, damn it, I wanted to give you the good news, 693 00:51:41,865 --> 00:51:47,269 and my sisters, too, told me to call you as soon as they heard. 694 00:51:47,371 --> 00:51:50,465 But unfortunately they didn't give it to you. 695 00:51:50,574 --> 00:51:52,599 They gave it to tanio boccia." 696 00:51:54,044 --> 00:51:58,447 But by his tone of voice, I knew he was joking. 697 00:51:58,549 --> 00:52:02,212 So you found out from Alberto sordi. Were you expecting this award? 698 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,048 - I don't know. - Your first Oscar was 20 years ago. 699 00:52:06,156 --> 00:52:10,149 It was in 1955, for la strada. Twenty years have gone by. 700 00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:11,454 Want me to start crying? 701 00:52:11,562 --> 00:52:15,430 No, I'd like to know how you feel. 702 00:52:15,532 --> 00:52:18,592 What do you feel is the difference between the two oscars? 703 00:52:19,503 --> 00:52:22,836 - I was 20 years younger. - And what does that mean? 704 00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:28,344 It means I have a lot less hair, and my chins sag more and more. 705 00:52:28,445 --> 00:52:32,643 I mean for the director, and your recurring theme of memory. 706 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:36,413 You want me to say something edifying and comforting. 707 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,887 You want me to address young directors and show them the way. 708 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:42,424 What would you like to say to the young directors? 709 00:52:42,526 --> 00:52:46,929 Make good movies. Make movies in which you talk about yourself. 710 00:52:47,865 --> 00:52:51,062 La strada, nights of cabiria, 8 1/2, amarcord. 711 00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:54,160 Which of these films do you feel most attached to, if any? 712 00:52:54,271 --> 00:52:57,365 I wish I could find an answer to that question 713 00:52:57,474 --> 00:53:02,309 that I felt happy giving each time. 714 00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:03,903 But I have no answer, 715 00:53:04,014 --> 00:53:08,451 because I never ask myself this type of question. 716 00:53:08,552 --> 00:53:13,080 This vision of a father well-pleased with his children 717 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,885 is completely alien to me. 718 00:53:19,263 --> 00:53:22,892 The truth is that I wasn't trying fo prove anything. 719 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,696 I have no message for humanity. I'm sorry. 720 00:53:31,341 --> 00:53:36,745 I think of films as wonderful toys, marvelous pastimes. 721 00:53:42,286 --> 00:53:46,313 There are no compromises in what I do. This is exactly what I am. 722 00:53:46,423 --> 00:53:49,984 The final result is a mirror I hold up to myself. 723 00:53:50,094 --> 00:53:54,224 Its reflection speaks for itself. I can add nothing fo it. 724 00:53:54,331 --> 00:53:55,662 What can I say? 60391

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