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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,673 --> 00:00:09,475 It was just a real quick, out-of-the-dark shot, 2 00:00:09,576 --> 00:00:10,776 and then it was over. 3 00:00:11,878 --> 00:00:14,146 He did not see it coming. 4 00:00:14,247 --> 00:00:15,881 A shot from the dark. 5 00:00:15,982 --> 00:00:17,316 It was absolutely terrible. 6 00:00:17,417 --> 00:00:20,185 There was half of his head missing. 7 00:00:20,286 --> 00:00:23,288 It's something that I don't think I'll ever forget. 8 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:26,291 A secret lurking around every corner. 9 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:28,694 This mystery woman shows up at the house 10 00:00:28,795 --> 00:00:30,996 who reported, "hey, I'm having car trouble." 11 00:00:31,097 --> 00:00:33,899 We see a text message that says, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,801 "you didn't see me, and I didn't see you." 13 00:00:35,902 --> 00:00:38,170 He said that he had no weapons. 14 00:00:38,271 --> 00:00:40,572 So why is he walking around with a shotgun shell 15 00:00:40,673 --> 00:00:41,807 in his pocket? 16 00:00:41,908 --> 00:00:44,043 Her immediate response to me was, 17 00:00:44,144 --> 00:00:45,110 "I want my lawyer." 18 00:00:45,211 --> 00:00:47,946 That tells me she's hiding something. 19 00:00:48,048 --> 00:00:49,415 Yes, you have an alibi, 20 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:52,451 but could they be trying to protect each other in some sort 21 00:00:52,552 --> 00:00:54,319 of bigger and nefarious action? 22 00:00:54,421 --> 00:00:56,688 The truth will be revealed. 23 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:59,258 The DNA matches... It's on the bus stock, 24 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,127 on the trigger, and on the handle. 25 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:03,962 If there was one aha moment 26 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:07,066 in the entire investigation, that's it. 27 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:09,034 Every day in North America, 28 00:01:09,135 --> 00:01:11,503 dozens of people are murdered. 29 00:01:11,604 --> 00:01:13,972 The key to solving the toughest of these homicides 30 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:18,077 lies in the final 24 hours of the victim's life. 31 00:01:18,178 --> 00:01:19,478 To crack the case, 32 00:01:19,579 --> 00:01:23,248 detectives must reconstruct that critical time line, 33 00:01:23,349 --> 00:01:25,918 the minutes and hours containing evidence 34 00:01:26,019 --> 00:01:28,087 that can help unlock the mystery 35 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:29,088 and catch the killer. 36 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:42,167 Bluffton, south Carolina... 37 00:01:42,268 --> 00:01:46,271 A lowcountry town brimming with southern charm. 38 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:52,344 Bluffton is a coastal town with a lot of emphasis on 39 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:53,979 outdoor activities, 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,549 water activities, and then, of course, fresh seafood. 41 00:01:59,986 --> 00:02:02,387 Although there's only 20,000 or so who live 42 00:02:02,489 --> 00:02:05,858 in bluffton, tons of people come in, and that's tourism. 43 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,527 I mean, it's... the hospitality industry is big. 44 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:11,797 It still has that small-town feel 45 00:02:11,898 --> 00:02:13,899 where everybody seems to know everybody. 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,102 We were actually just recently nominated as 47 00:02:17,203 --> 00:02:19,471 the safest city in the state of south Carolina. 48 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:23,575 But one Autumn evening, 49 00:02:23,676 --> 00:02:26,178 bluffton's reputation for safety is shattered. 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,616 The 911 call came in at 1:10 A.M. 51 00:02:30,717 --> 00:02:33,785 On October 28, 2015. 52 00:02:57,443 --> 00:02:59,411 Police rush to the scene of the crime. 53 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:04,650 The victim was sitting on a couch, so he's sitting up. 54 00:03:06,019 --> 00:03:08,620 He is slumped over to the side slightly, 55 00:03:08,721 --> 00:03:10,656 but his legs are crossed. 56 00:03:10,757 --> 00:03:14,493 If not for the obvious wound that he had on his head, 57 00:03:14,594 --> 00:03:16,428 you'd think he'd fallen asleep there, you know, 58 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:18,263 passed out or something. 59 00:03:18,364 --> 00:03:21,300 There was a entrance wound on the left side 60 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:23,735 of his head and an exit wound on the right side 61 00:03:23,836 --> 00:03:26,538 with half of his head missing. 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,275 There was brain matter scattered across the wall. 63 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:33,312 The victim is 33-year-old restaurant owner, 64 00:03:33,413 --> 00:03:34,479 Jonathan cherol. 65 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:38,350 John appeared to be very well-liked, 66 00:03:38,451 --> 00:03:41,486 um, in the community, 67 00:03:41,588 --> 00:03:44,656 very outgoing, very friendly. 68 00:03:44,757 --> 00:03:46,858 Jonathan, by all accounts, was kind of 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,394 the all-American, good-looking guy. 70 00:03:49,495 --> 00:03:51,730 He was a businessman, pretty charming, 71 00:03:51,831 --> 00:03:54,700 the ladies liked him, he had a lot of charisma. 72 00:03:56,269 --> 00:03:58,670 Tasked with investigating Jonathan's murder 73 00:03:58,771 --> 00:04:03,342 are detective baker odom and captain Joseph babkiewicz. 74 00:04:03,443 --> 00:04:06,044 I was on the force for about 10 years 75 00:04:06,145 --> 00:04:08,013 when this happened, 76 00:04:08,114 --> 00:04:10,215 but it was only my second homicide, 77 00:04:10,316 --> 00:04:12,417 so it was fairly new to me, 78 00:04:12,518 --> 00:04:15,721 and it's something that I don't think I'll ever forget. 79 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:19,625 As detectives survey the crime scene, 80 00:04:19,726 --> 00:04:23,428 they aim to get a snapshot of just how the attack went down. 81 00:04:24,797 --> 00:04:26,531 One thing that we noticed is 82 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:28,700 the two shotgun shells that were on the ground, 83 00:04:28,801 --> 00:04:32,537 so we knew two shotgun shots were fired. 84 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:35,574 One hit our victim, John cherol, in the head. 85 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:38,343 The other one went off into the garage. 86 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:42,481 The absolute devastation 87 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:44,483 caused by a shotgun could be 88 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:47,653 the objective, because a pellet-based round 89 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:50,722 works like shrapnel and covers a large area, 90 00:04:50,857 --> 00:04:53,325 meaning that if you weren't a crack shot, you could still 91 00:04:53,426 --> 00:04:55,394 probably cause some serious damage 92 00:04:55,495 --> 00:04:56,862 if you were just in the ballpark. 93 00:04:58,197 --> 00:05:00,365 You've got a small treeline or some shrubs that 94 00:05:00,466 --> 00:05:02,434 really separate your backyard from the fairway 95 00:05:02,535 --> 00:05:04,870 and that provide the perfect cover 96 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:08,040 and concealment for someone who wanted to spy or, 97 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,942 in this case, murder somebody. 98 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:13,111 To find Jonathan cherol's killer, 99 00:05:13,212 --> 00:05:14,680 investigators will need to 100 00:05:14,781 --> 00:05:18,116 piece together the last 24 hours of his life. 101 00:05:18,217 --> 00:05:19,518 He was holding on to a cellphone 102 00:05:19,619 --> 00:05:22,220 that he never dropped after he got shot, 103 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:24,823 which we thought was unusual. 104 00:05:24,924 --> 00:05:26,258 The first thing that comes to my mind 105 00:05:26,359 --> 00:05:28,493 is that he did not see it coming. 106 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,397 It seems very clear at that point that it 107 00:05:32,498 --> 00:05:35,367 was just a real quick, out-of-the-dark shot, 108 00:05:35,468 --> 00:05:37,069 and then it was over. 109 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:40,572 The sniper-style attack perplexes detectives. 110 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:45,410 We're all kind of a little baffled by 111 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:46,745 what's going on here. 112 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:48,547 Is this a targeted thing? 113 00:05:49,982 --> 00:05:51,917 One of the first things that we're thinking is, well, 114 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:53,919 we're gonna figure out everything about 115 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:55,887 John's background, 116 00:05:55,988 --> 00:05:58,390 who might have had issues with him. 117 00:05:59,592 --> 00:06:01,927 Detectives start building their time line 118 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:05,597 by speaking with the man who was with Jonathan when he was shot 119 00:06:05,698 --> 00:06:08,033 right off the bat, we want to speak with gene. 120 00:06:09,435 --> 00:06:11,870 Gene tells them that on Tuesday, 121 00:06:11,971 --> 00:06:15,474 October 27th, Jonathan was hanging out with friends 122 00:06:15,575 --> 00:06:17,442 from about noon to five o'clock. 123 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:22,614 Gene is working that day. 124 00:06:22,715 --> 00:06:25,884 He gets off work at 11:35 P.M., 125 00:06:25,985 --> 00:06:28,920 and he goes to Jonathan's and arrives around midnight 126 00:06:29,021 --> 00:06:30,122 that night. 127 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:31,456 So a 12:53 A.M., 128 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:34,326 Jonathan on the back porch, he's shot and killed. 129 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:39,898 His buddy gene says, "I'm out of here." 130 00:06:39,999 --> 00:06:41,767 He goes to run in the house, gene reports 131 00:06:41,868 --> 00:06:44,035 that he looks kind of where the shot came from 132 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,104 or where he thought it came from. 133 00:06:46,205 --> 00:06:47,239 He didn't see anything. 134 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:50,242 He didn't see anybody, but it was dark, 135 00:06:50,343 --> 00:06:53,078 and he was probably running for his life. 136 00:06:53,179 --> 00:06:56,148 Gene immediately yelled for John's roommate, 137 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:58,817 Rupert, told him that John had been shot, 138 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,153 and he ran and called 911. 139 00:07:03,456 --> 00:07:05,724 As it turns out, Jonathan's roommate, 140 00:07:05,825 --> 00:07:07,893 Rupert, was sleeping when the shooting occurred 141 00:07:07,994 --> 00:07:10,462 and didn't hear a thing. 142 00:07:10,563 --> 00:07:12,564 Detectives asked gene if he was aware of 143 00:07:12,665 --> 00:07:15,700 anything unusual transpiring over the course of the night. 144 00:07:18,204 --> 00:07:20,338 According to what Jonathan told gene, 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,474 around 10:53 P.M., 146 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:26,144 a strange female just happens to pull into his driveway. 147 00:07:27,713 --> 00:07:30,749 This mystery woman shows up at the house who reported, 148 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:32,150 "hey, I'm having car trouble," 149 00:07:32,251 --> 00:07:33,852 and so we went out to try to help her. 150 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:37,122 This mystery woman tries to kiss Jonathan, 151 00:07:37,223 --> 00:07:38,723 which he finds very strange, 152 00:07:40,526 --> 00:07:42,727 and he told gene he didn't know the woman. 153 00:07:45,064 --> 00:07:47,065 Jonathan tells gene that she tried getting 154 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:50,068 into the house, and he wouldn't let her into the house, 155 00:07:50,169 --> 00:07:52,270 and she eventually got back into the car, 156 00:07:52,371 --> 00:07:54,806 was able to start her car, and go on her way. 157 00:07:57,176 --> 00:07:59,644 There is no question in my mind that this 158 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:03,482 could potentially be related to Jonathan being shot. 159 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:07,352 Detectives canvass the neighborhood, 160 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:09,788 hoping to find information that will lead them to 161 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:11,756 the mystery woman. 162 00:08:11,858 --> 00:08:14,493 As it turns out, John's house is also very close 163 00:08:14,594 --> 00:08:16,261 to one of the exits of the neighborhood, 164 00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:18,964 and at that exit, and just like all the exits for 165 00:08:19,065 --> 00:08:21,433 this neighborhood, they have security cameras facing into 166 00:08:21,534 --> 00:08:22,968 the neighborhood and facing out of the neighborhood. 167 00:08:24,437 --> 00:08:26,938 Police officers grab security footage, and they, 168 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:29,474 in fact, find that there was a mystery woman who showed up 169 00:08:29,575 --> 00:08:30,909 at John's driveway, 170 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:33,545 but the mystery gets deeper at that point, 171 00:08:33,646 --> 00:08:35,847 because body language doesn't support 172 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:38,250 the fact that Jonathan and this woman didn't know each other. 173 00:08:40,052 --> 00:08:42,921 It is clear from the video that John knew this woman 174 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,758 and that she was an acquaintance 175 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:48,760 or possibly a friend of his. 176 00:08:50,396 --> 00:08:52,030 So now you have gene, who reports that 177 00:08:52,131 --> 00:08:54,699 Jonathan was freaked out by some mystery guest, 178 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:58,003 but then you have video that clearly shows 179 00:08:58,104 --> 00:09:01,740 that the mystery guest wasn't a stranger at all. 180 00:09:01,841 --> 00:09:05,810 Who's lying? Did Jonathan lie to gene for some reason? 181 00:09:05,912 --> 00:09:08,680 Or did gene make that whole thing up for investigators? 182 00:09:08,781 --> 00:09:10,115 Was gene involved? 183 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:20,425 Detectives are hunting for their first suspect 184 00:09:20,526 --> 00:09:23,628 in the sniper-style murder of Jonathan cherol, 185 00:09:23,729 --> 00:09:25,664 a mystery woman with car trouble 186 00:09:25,765 --> 00:09:28,867 who he appears to have received on his driveway. 187 00:09:28,968 --> 00:09:30,769 At this point, what we know about 188 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:34,039 this mystery woman is on the security camera, 189 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:37,075 we've got a blond Caucasian woman, you know, slight build. 190 00:09:37,176 --> 00:09:38,743 You know, you wouldn't be able to pick her out of 191 00:09:38,844 --> 00:09:41,146 a mug shot based on the security footage, 192 00:09:41,247 --> 00:09:42,714 you know, it's nighttime and all that stuff, 193 00:09:42,815 --> 00:09:45,317 but you can still see enough to be able to get a pretty good 194 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,719 idea of who this might be if you were to then see them later. 195 00:09:50,556 --> 00:09:52,123 We know that this mystery woman arrives 196 00:09:52,224 --> 00:09:54,960 at Jonathan's house around 10:53 P.M. 197 00:09:55,995 --> 00:10:00,732 Later, around 11:43, she backs out of the driveway 198 00:10:00,833 --> 00:10:01,933 and leaves the house. 199 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:05,203 But then something curious catches 200 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:07,606 detective babkiewicz's eye. 201 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:08,840 As I'm watching the video, 202 00:10:08,941 --> 00:10:12,877 I watch it further to the time that the 911 call came in, 203 00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:15,981 and we see the same vehicle drive slowly past 204 00:10:16,082 --> 00:10:19,017 Jonathan's house at 12:43 A.M. 205 00:10:20,152 --> 00:10:22,821 The first thing on my mind is me 206 00:10:22,922 --> 00:10:25,790 and my team have to find out who this female is. 207 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:29,728 Investigators run a check on the vehicle 208 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:32,130 and learn that it belongs to a local woman... 209 00:10:32,231 --> 00:10:33,298 Colette Collins. 210 00:10:35,067 --> 00:10:36,534 Colette Collins... 211 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:40,171 Not someone necessarily you would think would be a suspect. 212 00:10:40,272 --> 00:10:42,540 She's got no criminal history. She's a mom. 213 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:45,677 She's got a pretty good job, her husband runs a local business 214 00:10:45,778 --> 00:10:48,947 in bluffton, so she doesn't really fit that profile 215 00:10:49,048 --> 00:10:50,915 who would be involved in such a gruesome murder. 216 00:10:53,019 --> 00:10:54,486 But Colette's car is linked 217 00:10:54,620 --> 00:10:55,920 to the scene of the crime. 218 00:10:56,022 --> 00:10:58,456 Detectives summon her to the station for questioning. 219 00:11:00,459 --> 00:11:04,796 My first impression of Colette is that she seemed very calm. 220 00:11:04,897 --> 00:11:07,032 If she was involved with this murder, 221 00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:09,067 she seemed very comfortable with it, 222 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:12,037 and she was prepared to answer any questions we had. 223 00:11:13,372 --> 00:11:15,907 The detectives asked how she knows Jonathan, 224 00:11:16,008 --> 00:11:18,610 why was she there, why was she driving by his house? 225 00:11:18,711 --> 00:11:21,246 And she says that she and her husband are friends with him. 226 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:24,149 They had met at one of his bars and became friends, 227 00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:27,052 and she really describes them as very close friends. 228 00:11:28,888 --> 00:11:31,890 She seems like she's trying to help the police 229 00:11:31,991 --> 00:11:33,124 with the investigation, 230 00:11:33,225 --> 00:11:36,261 and she is actually upset about the fact that something 231 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:37,595 has happened to her friend. 232 00:11:39,298 --> 00:11:41,800 Detectives question Colette about her whereabouts 233 00:11:41,901 --> 00:11:43,435 the night of the murder. 234 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:47,305 She tells US that she had been working at her job that night, 235 00:11:47,406 --> 00:11:49,874 which is a country club in the nearby area. 236 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:53,678 We know that Colette arrives at Jonathan's place 237 00:11:53,779 --> 00:11:55,113 around 10:53. 238 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:59,117 So, of course, the next question is why are you at 239 00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:00,418 the house at, you know, 240 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:01,653 at 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock at night? 241 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:03,855 Why are you driving by? 242 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:05,457 She says that her husband, Sam, 243 00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:08,126 struggles with addictions, with drugs and alcohol, 244 00:12:08,227 --> 00:12:09,260 so they have a dry house, 245 00:12:09,361 --> 00:12:11,396 but she likes to enjoy her wine 246 00:12:11,497 --> 00:12:12,697 or her alcohol every now and again, 247 00:12:12,798 --> 00:12:14,065 and so she describes that 248 00:12:14,133 --> 00:12:16,167 on this particular night, she'd gone out, 249 00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:19,871 got herself a bottle of wine, and was riding around bluffton 250 00:12:19,972 --> 00:12:21,172 drinking her wine 251 00:12:21,273 --> 00:12:23,308 and just happened to drive down Jonathan's street. 252 00:12:26,145 --> 00:12:29,714 Colette's story that she was out driving around 253 00:12:29,815 --> 00:12:31,382 aimlessly burning fuel, 254 00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:33,785 guzzling white wine behind the wheel, 255 00:12:33,886 --> 00:12:36,221 I mean, it's just so bizarre that it 256 00:12:36,322 --> 00:12:37,989 has a certain ring of truth to it. 257 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:42,527 But what detectives aren't buying is Colette's 258 00:12:42,628 --> 00:12:45,063 story that she just happened to pop in on Jonathan. 259 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:48,900 So as they start aligning the facts, 260 00:12:49,001 --> 00:12:50,535 they see her drive by his house, 261 00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:53,838 they see the interaction where obviously they knew each other. 262 00:12:53,939 --> 00:12:56,307 She's out drinking. It's late at night. 263 00:12:56,408 --> 00:12:59,911 The automatic assumption, or at least interest, would be, 264 00:13:00,012 --> 00:13:02,347 you know, there may be a little more to 265 00:13:02,448 --> 00:13:03,815 the relationship. 266 00:13:03,916 --> 00:13:06,851 But Colette denies any kind of romantic entanglement with 267 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:08,653 Jonathan, she says, "we're all just friends. 268 00:13:08,754 --> 00:13:10,922 "In fact, my husband and he are best friends. 269 00:13:11,023 --> 00:13:13,024 I'm kind of the third wheel, if anything else." 270 00:13:14,727 --> 00:13:17,061 Colette claims that after drinking and driving 271 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:20,165 around in the car and dropping in on Jonathan, 272 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:21,599 she simply went home, 273 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:23,635 arriving around one o'clock in the morning. 274 00:13:25,204 --> 00:13:28,840 Colette tells US that Sam is upset that she's been drinking, 275 00:13:28,941 --> 00:13:32,343 and they have some words about that, 276 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:34,612 but it wasn't anything significant, 277 00:13:34,713 --> 00:13:37,415 and that that pretty much is the end of her night at that point. 278 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:40,552 To confirm Colette's story, 279 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:43,388 detectives reach out to her husband, Sam. 280 00:13:44,557 --> 00:13:46,658 Sam's got this very, very pronounced lamp. 281 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,626 He's walking with a cane 282 00:13:48,727 --> 00:13:50,862 and initially seems very, very cooperative. 283 00:13:52,198 --> 00:13:55,266 Sam tells US that he got shot. 284 00:13:56,569 --> 00:13:59,504 It appears that it was a drug deal gone bad. 285 00:14:01,907 --> 00:14:05,310 He actually took a shot almost directly to his knee, 286 00:14:05,411 --> 00:14:08,913 and he's got a permanent limp for the rest of his life. 287 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:10,248 It messed him up pretty good. 288 00:14:12,718 --> 00:14:14,219 Sam pretty much verifies 289 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,754 Colette's story that yes, they're all friends. 290 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,723 No, there's no affair going on. 291 00:14:18,824 --> 00:14:20,124 Yes, she rolled in drunk. 292 00:14:20,226 --> 00:14:21,626 He had been home all night watching TV. 293 00:14:21,727 --> 00:14:24,262 They got into a big fight, and then they went to bed. 294 00:14:25,898 --> 00:14:27,565 Sam was home all evening, 295 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:29,500 and if Colette arrived home at 1 A.M., 296 00:14:29,602 --> 00:14:31,135 that means she would have been driving at 297 00:14:31,237 --> 00:14:34,739 the time of the murder with no opportunity to kill Jonathan. 298 00:14:36,675 --> 00:14:39,777 And seeing no motive for her to kill their close friend, 299 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,980 detectives remove her as a suspect. 300 00:14:45,284 --> 00:14:47,952 We didn't have a... a... Any indication as to why 301 00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:49,220 this happened, really. 302 00:14:49,321 --> 00:14:51,422 Didn't have any indication as to who it might have been. 303 00:14:51,523 --> 00:14:54,259 It was just this, you know, wide open, going all these 304 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,961 different directions, trying to find which 305 00:14:57,062 --> 00:15:00,064 thread do we go with as far as where the suspect is. 306 00:15:02,134 --> 00:15:04,135 With no new leads to go on, 307 00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:07,238 detectives circle back to focus on what they do know. 308 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:10,808 So at this point in the time line, 309 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,646 you've got gene, who claims he saw everything 310 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:15,880 but wasn't involved. 311 00:15:15,981 --> 00:15:17,315 Then you've got this guy, Rupert, 312 00:15:17,416 --> 00:15:20,952 who apparently was asleep inside the home but didn't hear 313 00:15:21,053 --> 00:15:23,421 anything, didn't see anything. 314 00:15:23,522 --> 00:15:25,623 Could they be trying to protect each other 315 00:15:25,724 --> 00:15:27,825 in some sort of bigger and nefarious action? 316 00:15:29,628 --> 00:15:31,829 Thomas: Sometimes the killer will put themselves 317 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:34,832 at the scene, to deflect their own guilt 318 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:37,435 and involvement and put the suspicion 319 00:15:37,536 --> 00:15:39,904 or focus onto somebody else. 320 00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:44,042 As they investigate possible motives 321 00:15:44,143 --> 00:15:45,543 for gene and Rupert, 322 00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:47,445 detectives discover that Rupert had 323 00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:49,547 a reason to want revenge on Jonathan. 324 00:15:50,849 --> 00:15:54,052 As it turns out, not only are Rupert and Jonathan roommates, 325 00:15:54,153 --> 00:15:57,188 but his family had invested pretty heavily in some of 326 00:15:57,289 --> 00:16:01,359 Jonathan's interests, and they lost their shirts in the deal. 327 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:02,560 Losing a lot of money is not 328 00:16:02,661 --> 00:16:05,096 easy for people... that could make some enemies. 329 00:16:05,197 --> 00:16:06,464 So again, as you're looking at 330 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:09,967 the kind of execution shooting it was, 331 00:16:10,035 --> 00:16:12,370 is this guy or his family involved? 332 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,940 Police bring Rupert in for questioning, 333 00:16:16,041 --> 00:16:18,943 and he admits there was bad blood between his family 334 00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:20,144 and Jonathan. 335 00:16:21,613 --> 00:16:23,514 There were some allegations that money was 336 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:26,918 missing and that John had potentially been taking 337 00:16:27,019 --> 00:16:29,120 money from the business. 338 00:16:29,221 --> 00:16:30,688 Losing money 339 00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:33,725 and theft could be a motive for murder. 340 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:36,394 Detectives put Rupert's and gene's timelines 341 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:37,562 to the test, 342 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,664 hoping this will shed some light on whether they are 343 00:16:39,765 --> 00:16:42,900 telling the truth or spreading lies. 344 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:46,971 Rupert tells police that he got home around 3 P.M., 345 00:16:47,072 --> 00:16:49,674 that John and a friend of his were there. 346 00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:51,809 They had dinner around 7 P.M. 347 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:54,679 He went to bed shortly thereafter. 348 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:56,581 Around midnight, he wakes up, 349 00:16:56,682 --> 00:17:00,451 walks outside because he hears John and gene outside 350 00:17:00,552 --> 00:17:02,520 talking, goes out there, you know, smokes 351 00:17:02,621 --> 00:17:05,757 a cigarette and talks to them for a few minutes. 352 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:08,359 He then goes back inside 353 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:12,897 and lays back down, and he had fallen asleep again. 354 00:17:12,998 --> 00:17:16,934 Detectives compare Rupert's story with gene's. 355 00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:20,538 Police are able to confirm that gene was at work 356 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:25,009 until 11:35 and that he arrived at Jonathan's 357 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:28,513 around 12, but that does not eliminate Rupert 358 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:30,815 and gene as suspects at this point. 359 00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:34,052 With no way to eliminate 360 00:17:34,153 --> 00:17:36,487 gene and Rupert through their timelines, 361 00:17:36,588 --> 00:17:39,690 detectives test the men's hands for gunshot residue. 362 00:17:40,926 --> 00:17:43,094 We tested both their hands for gunshot residue 363 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:44,796 to see if they had fired a gun recently, 364 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:47,398 and both of them came back negative. 365 00:17:47,466 --> 00:17:49,133 With gene and Rupert cleared, 366 00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:52,270 detectives dig into Jonathan's personal life 367 00:17:52,371 --> 00:17:54,572 looking for someone with a motive for murder. 368 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:57,575 Jonathan likes the attention of the ladies. 369 00:17:57,676 --> 00:17:59,911 The ladies liked to give him that attention. 370 00:18:00,012 --> 00:18:01,512 He's not that discerning whether or not 371 00:18:01,613 --> 00:18:03,581 the ladies have someone else in their lives, 372 00:18:03,682 --> 00:18:07,018 and word is around town that, on more than one occasion, that 373 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,820 may have caused a bit of drama 374 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:11,889 in his life when husbands and boyfriends who didn't care for 375 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:15,259 the fact... surely Jonathan had to know that playing with fire 376 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:18,629 probably is not the best choice, you know, if you're going to 377 00:18:18,730 --> 00:18:20,498 mess around with someone else's woman, 378 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,533 you're going to get people irate at you, 379 00:18:22,634 --> 00:18:25,103 and jealousy is a big motivator. 380 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:28,005 If your wife, your girlfriend's stepping out on you, not only 381 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,340 are you angry at her, 382 00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:32,376 but then you're also saying that guy is the reason 383 00:18:32,478 --> 00:18:33,578 she left me. 384 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:35,980 This guy is a guy we need to have a conversation with. 385 00:18:44,823 --> 00:18:46,991 Detectives theorize that the murder of 386 00:18:47,092 --> 00:18:50,761 Jonathan cherol could be a crime of passion 387 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:52,630 and reorient their investigation to 388 00:18:52,731 --> 00:18:55,032 examine jealous husbands and boyfriends. 389 00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:59,470 Gene told police that, in particular, 390 00:18:59,571 --> 00:19:01,572 there was one woman, Annie, 391 00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:05,176 who John was friends with, as well as gene. 392 00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:10,314 Annie had come to John and told him that her boyfriend had 393 00:19:10,415 --> 00:19:11,682 beaten her up and that 394 00:19:11,783 --> 00:19:15,253 she was scared of him and that he was very jealous of 395 00:19:15,354 --> 00:19:17,255 her relationships with other people, 396 00:19:17,356 --> 00:19:18,956 um, especially John. 397 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:22,093 Annie agrees to come in for an interview. 398 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:26,864 We talk to her, and she opens up about her boyfriend, patton. 399 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,569 If she really is going to John for comfort 400 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,804 and patton found out about it, 401 00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:36,908 and he has this incredibly violent streak in him, 402 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:39,911 patton could potentially be our suspect. 403 00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,180 When detectives investigate further, 404 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:44,949 they learn that patton has an airtight alibi for the night 405 00:19:45,050 --> 00:19:46,984 of the murder and wasn't in the area. 406 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:51,355 With little to go on in Jonathan's personal life, 407 00:19:51,456 --> 00:19:53,324 detectives turn their investigation 408 00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:55,593 to his professional connections. 409 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:58,729 In 2015, John started a business 410 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:00,531 with another restaurant owner. 411 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,869 He's a good-looking, successful businessman, 412 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:08,973 but that's the surface... Underneath, the businesses, 413 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,375 not so financially stable. 414 00:20:11,476 --> 00:20:14,178 There were a lot of people that Jonathan had 415 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:17,481 lost money for that had maybe some shady dealings with. 416 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,451 As a psychologist, I think it's 417 00:20:20,552 --> 00:20:22,587 common for people to have different facades. 418 00:20:22,688 --> 00:20:25,489 We may have our personal one or our work one, 419 00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:27,692 but sometimes where we get into trouble is when these 420 00:20:27,793 --> 00:20:31,762 facades don't tend to mesh well or they're in conflict. 421 00:20:31,863 --> 00:20:35,533 So in this case, it may be possible that Jonathan's image 422 00:20:35,634 --> 00:20:38,636 that he wants to project as a promising restaurateur 423 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:41,072 and standup guy is now being threatened, 424 00:20:41,173 --> 00:20:44,775 which might lead him potentially into a decline in terms of 425 00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:47,044 his standing in the community. 426 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:49,247 Jonathan may start to get desperate. 427 00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:52,316 He may look for solutions that he ordinarily wouldn't, 428 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:54,552 and so this may have been the case. 429 00:20:54,653 --> 00:20:56,053 He got deeper and deeper into 430 00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:58,556 a cycle that he couldn't get himself out of. 431 00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:00,958 Detectives investigate 432 00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:03,027 Jonathan's new business partnership with 433 00:21:03,128 --> 00:21:05,229 husband and wife, Shirley and clive. 434 00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:08,065 Shirley and clive, 435 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:12,837 business associates with John, I had a rough falling out. 436 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:15,840 That gave US some possible motive 437 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:18,142 that could potentially lead to the killing of John. 438 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:21,746 With Shirley and clive in their crosshairs, 439 00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:24,181 detectives call them into the station for questioning. 440 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:26,817 They tell the police about 441 00:21:26,918 --> 00:21:29,387 their business relationship with John. 442 00:21:29,488 --> 00:21:32,390 Shortly after they entered into this agreement, 443 00:21:32,491 --> 00:21:36,827 there were allegations of misappropriation of funds from 444 00:21:36,928 --> 00:21:39,730 Shirley and clive about John. 445 00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:41,899 Shirley's business had been around for awhile, 446 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,734 was very successful. 447 00:21:43,835 --> 00:21:45,603 They merged, and all of a sudden, everything folds, 448 00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:47,038 and all this money is gone, 449 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:51,609 and so Shirley has seen this business that was 450 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:53,010 doing great, 451 00:21:53,111 --> 00:21:56,414 now it's gone, and her life is ruined now. 452 00:21:57,649 --> 00:21:59,750 John's desperate for money, 453 00:21:59,851 --> 00:22:03,487 and it's well known that desperate people are prepared 454 00:22:03,588 --> 00:22:05,956 to take risks that they otherwise wouldn't, 455 00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,426 and when you're prepared to take those risks, 456 00:22:08,527 --> 00:22:10,428 you can't necessarily control that outcome. 457 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,131 The flip side to that is, if you're responsible or have 458 00:22:14,232 --> 00:22:16,500 a hand in making somebody else desperate, 459 00:22:16,601 --> 00:22:19,737 like Shirley and her husband, that can come back full circle. 460 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,042 Shirley and clive had a motive to kill Jonathan, 461 00:22:25,143 --> 00:22:26,711 but did they have the opportunity? 462 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,214 When detectives question Shirley and clive 463 00:22:30,315 --> 00:22:33,084 about their whereabouts when Jonathan was murdered, 464 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:36,420 they say they were at home from 9 o'clock P.M. until 465 00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:38,789 7 o'clock A.M., when they went to work. 466 00:22:40,058 --> 00:22:42,293 During the time of the murder, I was with her. 467 00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:43,694 She was with me. 468 00:22:43,795 --> 00:22:45,696 So it creates a very frustrating thing. 469 00:22:45,797 --> 00:22:49,266 Yes, you have an alibi, but it's not unheard of that 470 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:51,402 a married couple would lie for each other. 471 00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:55,272 So it just creates another layer of, okay, they're alibied, 472 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,141 but we can't rule them out. 473 00:22:57,242 --> 00:22:59,844 Detectives ask Shirley and clive if they own 474 00:22:59,945 --> 00:23:02,179 any guns... under pressure, 475 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,682 the couple makes a reluctant admission. 476 00:23:04,783 --> 00:23:07,685 Turns out, they own a shotgun. 477 00:23:07,786 --> 00:23:10,388 Here's pieces falling in... Police say, 478 00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:13,023 "hey, maybe we got 'em." 479 00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:15,626 They take the gun, the bring it to ballistics. 480 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,330 But when the results come back, 481 00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:22,266 detectives are surprised by what they learn. 482 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,202 The shotgun did not match the ballistics on 483 00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:27,304 the shells that were found at the crime scene. 484 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,606 Because of that, we were able to 485 00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:32,076 eliminate both Shirley and clive as suspects. 486 00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,113 With their leads dried up, 487 00:23:36,214 --> 00:23:37,982 the investigation hits a wall. 488 00:23:39,484 --> 00:23:41,619 Heat really is getting turned up on the investigators. 489 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,287 They keep coming up with dead end 490 00:23:43,388 --> 00:23:45,289 after dead end, alibied suspect after 491 00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:48,259 alibied suspect, you've got a gruesome murder 492 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,761 in a small town, a small tourist town. 493 00:23:50,862 --> 00:23:53,564 You know, there's answers that have to be found, 494 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:54,965 because it's starting to take a toll 495 00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:56,934 on a small community that doesn't deal with murders 496 00:23:57,002 --> 00:23:58,402 every single day. 497 00:23:58,503 --> 00:24:00,771 Still believing the murder could be connected to 498 00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:02,573 Jonathan's business failings, 499 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:05,943 detectives dig deeper into his finances. 500 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:07,645 He owes a lot of people a lot of money, 501 00:24:07,746 --> 00:24:10,080 because he was begging from Peter to pay Paul, 502 00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:11,849 and so now the walls start closing in. 503 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,418 If you're getting money from here and here to pay this guy 504 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,086 and you understand how debt works, 505 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:18,823 all of a sudden, that whole game is gonna end. 506 00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:20,124 That whole game is gonna stop, 507 00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:22,526 and everyone at the same time is gonna have their hands out, 508 00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:24,228 and that could create a serious issue 509 00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:25,729 for somebody who owes a lot of people 510 00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:26,931 a lot of money in a small town. 511 00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:30,000 The deeper detectives dig, 512 00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:31,836 the more they learn that Jonathan's 513 00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:34,271 complicated money issues weren't restricted 514 00:24:34,372 --> 00:24:36,740 to his business dealings. 515 00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:40,010 Jonathan was in great debt because 516 00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:42,346 he has some type of drug problem. 517 00:24:42,447 --> 00:24:46,183 John was into the use of anti-anxiety medication 518 00:24:46,284 --> 00:24:49,153 and potentially some other drugs, as well. 519 00:24:49,254 --> 00:24:51,355 The deeper he got into trying to 520 00:24:51,456 --> 00:24:53,891 be successful with the restaurant business, 521 00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:58,829 the deeper he got in with his issues with pills and drugs, 522 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:02,566 and all of a sudden, he's got this habit. 523 00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:03,667 It's a serious problem. 524 00:25:05,871 --> 00:25:07,805 I can't even begin to imagine what was going through 525 00:25:07,906 --> 00:25:10,241 Jonathan's life personally, late at night, 526 00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:12,576 when the demons come where he spends all day being 527 00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:14,912 this super charismatic ladies man and having fun, 528 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,681 and I'm sure he was, and spending other people's money, 529 00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:20,084 but he had to have been cognizant that... that 530 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:23,053 stuff was coming down, husbands are getting more aware, 531 00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:24,388 the boyfriends are getting more aware, 532 00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:27,124 the bills are coming due, his business is closed. 533 00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:29,226 He probably was feeling like his whole world, 534 00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:31,562 this whole big castle that he created, 535 00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:33,430 is slowly crumbling down upon him. 536 00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,667 When investigators probe Jonathan's 537 00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:38,602 cellphone records for clues, 538 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:40,971 they make a shocking discovery. 539 00:25:41,072 --> 00:25:44,542 The last text that he gets is, "shoot his ass. 540 00:25:44,643 --> 00:25:45,910 I don't give an f anymore." 541 00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:50,681 That number that he had been texting, 542 00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:52,449 we got a search warrant for that, as well, 543 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:54,952 and determined that it belonged to Josh. 544 00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:58,556 Just is... wouldn't necessarily call him a regular, 545 00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:02,259 but we see him more than we'd like to, you know, 546 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,360 with the police department, 547 00:26:03,461 --> 00:26:06,564 and he's been in and out of jail a few times, 548 00:26:06,665 --> 00:26:10,401 mainly small level narcotic stuff. 549 00:26:10,502 --> 00:26:12,336 Josh is questioned by detectives 550 00:26:12,437 --> 00:26:13,938 at the local detention center. 551 00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:18,609 Between 12 and 5, Jonathan and Josh were running errands. 552 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:20,110 We know from 5 to 7, 553 00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:21,545 both Josh and Jonathan were at 554 00:26:21,646 --> 00:26:24,315 the house, and they were playing video games. 555 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,884 And then Josh leaves. 556 00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:31,155 Josh's phone records confirm he was nowhere near 557 00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:33,691 Jonathan's house at the time of the murder, 558 00:26:33,792 --> 00:26:35,326 but he does offer up information 559 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,194 that could lead to a new suspect. 560 00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,165 Josh told US John was going from drug dealer 561 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,567 to drug dealer to whoever who would 562 00:26:43,668 --> 00:26:46,503 supply him until he got so far into debt 563 00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,005 that he wasn't able to repay them. 564 00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:50,975 Did he borrow the money from the wrong person 565 00:26:51,076 --> 00:26:52,743 who said, "hey, it's time to pay up," 566 00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:54,511 and he didn't have the money to pay up? 567 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:55,946 Could that be a motive? 568 00:26:56,047 --> 00:26:58,315 Could that have led up to his ultimate demise? 569 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,461 While investigating Jonathan cherol's murder, 570 00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:13,564 police have uncovered a history of business debts, 571 00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:17,835 a pill addiction, and unpaid tabs with drug dealers, 572 00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:19,903 and now his friend Josh 573 00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:21,972 is providing more information about him. 574 00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:28,278 The cops learn from Josh that he now owes all kinds of 575 00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,714 drug dealers, all kinds of bad guys, money, 576 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:33,984 so desperate man requires desperate measures. 577 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,619 He comes up with this grand plan. 578 00:27:37,122 --> 00:27:38,989 Johnson thought Seth was an easy target, 579 00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:40,758 because Seth had a limp to him, 580 00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:43,160 and so he set up a robbery at his house. 581 00:27:44,429 --> 00:27:47,197 He figures that if he takes Seth out, not only 582 00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:48,799 does he erase his debt with Seth, 583 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,435 but he steals Seth's money, and he pays off all 584 00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:54,638 the other dealers... problem solved, no fuss, no muss, 585 00:27:56,374 --> 00:27:59,877 I think plans that Jonathan may have had seem 586 00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:03,147 to US, on the face of it, as completely implausible, 587 00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:04,748 but you know, when you're involved in 588 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:09,053 a drug culture or subculture, that's inherently violent. 589 00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:14,158 Jonathan's young, he may not have fully understood 590 00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:17,428 the extent of the danger he may have been putting himself in, 591 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,898 but also people evaluate that danger differently when they're 592 00:28:20,999 --> 00:28:23,867 under the influence of substances or they're desperate. 593 00:28:23,968 --> 00:28:25,436 It makes you consider options 594 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:28,272 that maybe you ordinarily wouldn't have. 595 00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,941 Detectives need to track down this Seth person 596 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:32,476 as soon as possible, 597 00:28:32,577 --> 00:28:34,678 but they only have a first name to go on. 598 00:28:36,014 --> 00:28:38,048 So cops then turned to Josh again and say, 599 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:40,117 "okay, who's Seth?" 600 00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:41,885 Who is this guy that Jonathan felt that 601 00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:44,421 he could take out and solve all his problems? 602 00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:49,059 So finally, Josh says, "I don't know who Seth is, 603 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,427 "but I know who he's married to. 604 00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:53,030 Colette Collins." 605 00:28:55,366 --> 00:28:57,868 Now, if Seth is married to Colette, 606 00:28:57,969 --> 00:29:01,872 that must mean, obviously, that Seth is code for Sam. 607 00:29:05,977 --> 00:29:07,811 And that's absolutely a moment 608 00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:08,812 where we're like, okay here... 609 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:09,980 This is a big piece right here. 610 00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:12,449 We just got handed something that... 611 00:29:12,517 --> 00:29:15,152 This is going to absolutely cement the direction 612 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,187 we're going in, finding the guy that killed John. 613 00:29:19,324 --> 00:29:20,858 Sam and Colette Collins, 614 00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,159 the couple who claimed to have been 615 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,262 close friends with Jonathan both have alibis. 616 00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:29,566 But knowing Jonathan had planned a robbery and attack on 617 00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:32,603 Seth, also known as Sam, detectives 618 00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:35,839 shift their focus back to the couple and pay a visit to 619 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:37,407 their home. 620 00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,177 There are several bulletholes in the house, 621 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,979 both that appeared to be entering in 622 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,947 the house and exiting to the house. 623 00:29:44,048 --> 00:29:45,516 So at some point, there was 624 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,351 a shootout that occurred over at the house. 625 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:52,022 When we get a little more detailed in questioning, 626 00:29:52,123 --> 00:29:55,058 Sam eventually does say something happened, 627 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,795 and as I asked him more, if he... if he thought 628 00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:01,365 that John was involved, he says that John was over 629 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:03,267 at the house, was acting weird, 630 00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:04,501 and then John left. 631 00:30:04,602 --> 00:30:06,470 A short time later, these guys come 632 00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:09,273 up to Sam's house and try to Rob him, 633 00:30:09,374 --> 00:30:12,276 so he did suspect John of 634 00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:13,777 setting the whole thing up. 635 00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:16,947 He said he wasn't mad at John for it and that he just 636 00:30:17,048 --> 00:30:20,050 wanted to go after the people that robbed his house. 637 00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:23,587 So police then ask Sam, all right, 638 00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:25,689 if you knew that Jonathan was in all this trouble, 639 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:27,891 if you knew that he owed a bunch of drug dealers, 640 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,893 why didn't you tell US last time we talked? 641 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,062 And Sam said, "hey, the guy's my best friend, 642 00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:33,530 I'm gonna protect him." 643 00:30:33,631 --> 00:30:37,034 But detectives aren't buying Sam's story. 644 00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:38,168 At that point in time, 645 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:40,671 I immediately think he's got the strongest motive 646 00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:43,307 out of all our suspects to kill John cherol. 647 00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,344 But our thought was how is he making it 100 yards from 648 00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,613 the street down to the house, shooting the shotgun, 649 00:30:49,714 --> 00:30:51,114 and then getting away in time? 650 00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,749 Because he... He's got this limp. 651 00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:56,687 And that puts Colette Collins right in 652 00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,056 investigative suspicion central. 653 00:31:00,391 --> 00:31:03,694 As this man is getting shot, Colette is driving by 654 00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,896 his house... I'm sorry, but it is not 655 00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:08,532 a galactic leap to put those two things together. 656 00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:12,302 Detectives theorize that Colette could have been 657 00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:14,571 the shooter and Sam the mastermind 658 00:31:14,672 --> 00:31:17,407 and haul them both down to the station for questioning. 659 00:31:18,676 --> 00:31:19,877 They start with Colette. 660 00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:24,781 Colette doesn't tell the police about 661 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:28,752 this home invasion that had occurred just a month prior. 662 00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:31,722 In fact, when asked about the gunshots in the walls 663 00:31:31,823 --> 00:31:32,990 in the house, 664 00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:36,960 she tells police that they were there when they, in fact, 665 00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,862 moved into the house. 666 00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:41,565 When detectives push Colette for information about 667 00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:44,401 Jonathan's murder, she clams up. 668 00:31:44,502 --> 00:31:46,103 Her immediate response to me 669 00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:47,671 after speaking with her was, 670 00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:49,940 "I want my lawyer. I want my attorney." 671 00:31:50,041 --> 00:31:52,643 That tells me she's hiding something. 672 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,811 With Colette stonewalling them, 673 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,513 detectives lean on Sam. 674 00:31:56,614 --> 00:32:01,118 We asked him if he'd be willing to give a DNA sample, 675 00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:03,053 and he very readily said, 676 00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:04,454 "absolutely, I've got no problem with that," 677 00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:06,823 and he gives US a DNA sample. 678 00:32:08,526 --> 00:32:11,695 But when police ask Sam about any guns in his home, 679 00:32:11,796 --> 00:32:14,464 his entire attitude changes. 680 00:32:14,565 --> 00:32:16,667 Sam tells law enforcement that 681 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:18,869 he does not have any guns in the home, 682 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:23,307 and the police then ask Sam if they can search the home. 683 00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:28,245 And at that point, Sam asked for a lawyer and says, "no." 684 00:32:30,181 --> 00:32:32,816 With Sam and Colette refusing to talk, 685 00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:34,851 detectives have little to go on to get 686 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,286 a search warrant for their home. 687 00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:39,122 Search warrants are among the most 688 00:32:39,223 --> 00:32:41,758 effective tools in securing evidence 689 00:32:41,859 --> 00:32:44,394 and can make or break cases. 690 00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,863 So when you don't get a search warrant, that sort of leaves 691 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,465 investigators on their heels, 692 00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:51,001 and you have to sort of improvise. 693 00:32:51,102 --> 00:32:53,904 One of the best substitutes in lieu of a search warrant 694 00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:56,239 and which can actually get you enough evidence to get 695 00:32:56,341 --> 00:32:57,774 the search warrant is through good, 696 00:32:57,875 --> 00:32:59,943 dedicated surveillance. 697 00:33:00,044 --> 00:33:02,646 Detectives regroup as the investigation 698 00:33:02,747 --> 00:33:05,915 into Jonathan's murder hits a roadblock. 699 00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,585 This investigation is pressure on 700 00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:10,787 myself and my team... We were getting 701 00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:12,990 pressured by people from the town. 702 00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:14,358 They want this case solved. 703 00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,726 They want to know that there's not 704 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,961 a killer running around town, 705 00:33:18,062 --> 00:33:21,832 and number one is pressure from the family. 706 00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,967 We want to give closure to that family as quickly 707 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,269 as possible and catch the person responsible 708 00:33:26,371 --> 00:33:28,271 for their son's death. 709 00:33:28,373 --> 00:33:31,942 But then detectives finally catch a break. 710 00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:33,577 A patrolman 711 00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:37,581 had issued a traffic stop on a vehicle driven by Sam Collins. 712 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,755 The officer ends up searching 713 00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,790 the vehicle, because he smelled weed. 714 00:33:46,891 --> 00:33:49,259 He does find some drugs in the car, 715 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,930 but in Sam's pocket is a shotgun shell. 716 00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:01,004 Sam had already told US that he had no weapons. 717 00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:04,107 So why is he walking around with a shotgun shell in his pocket? 718 00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:07,711 A 12-Gauge shotgun shell, 719 00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:11,348 the same type of round that was used to kill Jonathan. 720 00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:15,118 But that's not the only discovery 721 00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:16,620 the officer makes. 722 00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,122 When Sam steps out of the car, 723 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:20,891 no cane, he has a limp, 724 00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:23,460 but it's not nearly as pronounced as it was the day 725 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:25,195 they came in and talked to US. 726 00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:26,930 And so now we're thinking, well, he was puttin' on an act. 727 00:34:27,031 --> 00:34:30,367 And if he was putting on an act, why was he putting on an act? 728 00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:31,701 If there was one kind of 729 00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:34,571 aha moment in the entire investigation, that's it. 730 00:34:35,873 --> 00:34:37,641 Sam is booked on drug possession 731 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:40,277 charges and taken to the county jail. 732 00:34:40,378 --> 00:34:42,412 The shotgun shell in his pocket is enough for 733 00:34:42,513 --> 00:34:44,314 investigators to get their search warrant 734 00:34:44,415 --> 00:34:46,349 for the Collins home. 735 00:34:46,451 --> 00:34:49,486 We find a metal safe, and 736 00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:51,955 the first thing that goes through our mind is the shotgun 737 00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,758 that was used in this crime scene is in that safe. 738 00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:57,661 We've got our case solved. We've got the murder weapon. 739 00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,229 It's inside this safe. 740 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:01,731 We asked Colette to open the safe, 741 00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,434 and she says she doesn't remember the code. 742 00:35:04,535 --> 00:35:06,436 We call a locksmith out. 743 00:35:06,537 --> 00:35:09,106 Takes him about an hour to open up the safe. 744 00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:11,808 And when he opens it up, 745 00:35:11,909 --> 00:35:14,878 it's empty... we do not have a murder weapon. 746 00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:17,614 Detectives get a search warrant 747 00:35:17,715 --> 00:35:19,616 for Sam and Colette's phone records. 748 00:35:20,918 --> 00:35:23,487 So we've got 12:53 A.M., 749 00:35:23,588 --> 00:35:26,156 John is shot and killed on his back porch. 750 00:35:26,257 --> 00:35:27,858 Then at 2:24 A.M., 751 00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:30,260 we've got this text message from a phone 752 00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:34,431 used by Sam Collins to an unknown individual 753 00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:37,167 tellin' him that he's returned his shotgun. 754 00:35:37,268 --> 00:35:42,606 And then we go on, and we see a second text message 755 00:35:42,707 --> 00:35:45,542 that says, "you didn't see me, and I didn't see you." 756 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,318 Detectives are closing in on Sam and Colette Collins 757 00:35:55,453 --> 00:35:58,822 as the prime suspects in Jonathan cherol's murder 758 00:35:58,923 --> 00:36:00,323 and focus on tying them to 759 00:36:00,424 --> 00:36:03,093 the scene of the crime through text messages 760 00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:04,594 Sam sent about a gun. 761 00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,164 This says a couple of things. 762 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:09,199 It puts Sam with a shotgun. 763 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,333 Guy's killed with a shotgun. 764 00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:12,135 But the bigger thing it does is it destroys 765 00:36:12,236 --> 00:36:14,538 his entire alibi, because, remember, he had said, 766 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,339 "I was at home. My wife came home drunk. 767 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,674 "We fought, and we went to sleep. 768 00:36:17,775 --> 00:36:19,509 I don't know what happened to this guy." 769 00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,745 Well here by his own cellphone record, 770 00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,614 he's out dropping a shotgun off at a buddy's house. 771 00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:29,252 Who was this person? Where is this shotgun? 772 00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:31,221 And we need it is what's going through 773 00:36:31,322 --> 00:36:32,656 police's mind at this point. 774 00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:36,159 Detectives trace the unknown number to a friend 775 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,128 of Sam's by the name of William 776 00:36:38,229 --> 00:36:40,063 and go to ask him some questions. 777 00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:44,768 William tells them about his relationship 778 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:46,836 with Sam and Colette Collins. 779 00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:48,338 He had known Sam for 780 00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:51,775 a number of years through the construction business. 781 00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:55,745 Sam had asked William to borrow a gun. 782 00:36:55,846 --> 00:36:59,950 He told William that he was concerned for his safety. 783 00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:02,052 He thought somebody was maybe trying 784 00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:05,322 to harm him or his family. 785 00:37:05,423 --> 00:37:07,257 William did not think anything about it, 786 00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:12,963 so he let Sam borrow a shotgun about a month or a few weeks 787 00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:14,965 prior to the murder of John cherol. 788 00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:17,901 Williams says, "you're welcome to take it. 789 00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:20,437 "I haven't shot it since he came back. 790 00:37:20,538 --> 00:37:21,738 I just put it away." 791 00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,009 We got excited, but we didn't get too excited. 792 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,579 We submit the gun to the laboratory, 793 00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:31,881 and the ballistics came back 794 00:37:31,983 --> 00:37:34,317 a match to the shells found at the crime scene. 795 00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:37,954 This is the moment for law enforcement 796 00:37:38,055 --> 00:37:39,589 where it all comes together. 797 00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:43,260 We then submit it for DNA, 798 00:37:43,361 --> 00:37:45,695 and the laboratory said, 799 00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:48,598 "the DNA matches Sam Collins." 800 00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:51,868 It's on the bus stock, on the trigger, and on the handle. 801 00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:54,938 We all just screamed. We were excited. 802 00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,575 Based on the physical evidence that's there 803 00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:00,510 and the time line from the video footage, 804 00:38:00,611 --> 00:38:03,780 the security cameras, we can put Colette right in front of 805 00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:06,516 Jonathan's house at the time of the murder. 806 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:11,154 Detectives now have solid proof that Sam had 807 00:38:11,255 --> 00:38:14,624 the means and the opportunity to kill Jonathan. 808 00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:16,559 But what about the motive? 809 00:38:16,661 --> 00:38:20,330 John was interested in obtaining drugs, 810 00:38:20,431 --> 00:38:23,333 and he knew that 811 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:27,771 Sam had anxiety medication and different pills, 812 00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:32,642 and he was in debt to Sam for about $1,200, 813 00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:34,911 and that's why he was murdered. 814 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,115 Detectives are now able to piece together 815 00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:42,052 the final 24 hours of Jonathan's life. 816 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,622 Around 10:53 that evening, 817 00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:49,492 Colette shows up and talks to John, 818 00:38:49,593 --> 00:38:51,628 hangs out with John until about 11:45. 819 00:38:52,963 --> 00:38:56,866 Gene shows up at about midnight, once gene's there, 820 00:38:56,967 --> 00:38:59,469 him and John are hanging out, having a good time. 821 00:39:00,538 --> 00:39:04,674 Also, around midnight, Colette came home intoxicated. 822 00:39:04,775 --> 00:39:06,576 Sam asked her where she had been, 823 00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:09,813 and she told him she had been a John's house. 824 00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:11,414 Sam was angry. 825 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:13,950 He thought that John had taken money from him, 826 00:39:14,051 --> 00:39:16,353 that John was trying to 827 00:39:16,454 --> 00:39:19,189 kill him and that John had something going on 828 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:20,323 with his wife. 829 00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:22,992 And at that point, he grabbed his gun 830 00:39:23,094 --> 00:39:26,696 and told his wife to drive him to John cherol's house. 831 00:39:26,797 --> 00:39:29,265 Colette didn't know that he was gonna kill Jonathan. 832 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,569 He told her that he was gonna scare Jonathan. 833 00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:33,803 You see them drive through 834 00:39:33,904 --> 00:39:36,673 the neighborhood, pass John's around 12:43. 835 00:39:37,975 --> 00:39:42,512 12:53, Sam gets out of the car to go through the woods 836 00:39:43,781 --> 00:39:47,083 to walk up and shoot John. 838 00:39:56,861 --> 00:40:02,332 At 12:54, this is when Colette picks up Sam Collins. 839 00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:06,102 And he tells Colette, "hey, I just shot Jonathan." 840 00:40:07,805 --> 00:40:09,639 Now this little piece of information now 841 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,042 implicates Colette as an accessory after the fact. 842 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:15,945 She's just, you know, innocent, 843 00:40:16,046 --> 00:40:16,980 never done anything wrong, 844 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:19,949 but yet she helped cover up a murder. 845 00:40:20,050 --> 00:40:22,018 Colette and Sam are both charged 846 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,887 with the murder of Jonathan cherol, 847 00:40:23,988 --> 00:40:26,389 but based on her husband's confession, 848 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:28,958 Colette's conviction is reduced to accessory after 849 00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:30,760 the fact, and she receives 850 00:40:30,861 --> 00:40:33,830 the maximum sentence of 15 years. 851 00:40:33,898 --> 00:40:38,001 On October 18, 2017, Sam Collins is convicted of 852 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:41,037 first-degree murder and sentenced to 50 years 853 00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:42,505 in prison. 854 00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:46,176 I guess the biggest thing for me and what made 855 00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,679 me want to convict the two of these people was their lies 856 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,715 and manipulation really got under my skin, 857 00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:56,686 and it's unfortunate that it resulted in the death of 858 00:40:56,787 --> 00:40:58,588 Jonathan cherol, who could have had 859 00:40:58,689 --> 00:41:00,690 a productive, successful life. 860 00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:04,260 Timelines were always important 861 00:41:04,361 --> 00:41:05,862 in a murder investigation, period. 862 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:08,865 You've got to put people and players and suspect in place. 863 00:41:08,966 --> 00:41:11,100 In this case, there was a lot more for cops to go on 864 00:41:11,202 --> 00:41:13,570 than just the word and the time line verbally of 865 00:41:13,671 --> 00:41:15,839 suspects and witnesses. 866 00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:17,307 There was a digital time line. 867 00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:19,709 The cops were able to, once they had the information 868 00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:22,912 put together, video cameras, text messages, 869 00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:25,482 all those play into the time line that narrowed in, 870 00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,617 honed in, destroyed the alibi 871 00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:30,386 of the two suspects and ultimately cleared this case. 872 00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:33,256 The thing with John is that all of 873 00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:35,391 his friends loved him. 874 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,328 They were all very broken up about John's death, you know, 875 00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:42,265 I mean... I mean, John made an impact on people and, 876 00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:45,335 you know, he got addicted to these anti-anxiety medication, 877 00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:47,203 and it spiraled out of control. 878 00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:50,507 But that doesn't mean he's a bad person. 879 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:53,676 I'd been in investigations for eight years, 880 00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:57,947 and it was by far the best feeling 881 00:41:58,048 --> 00:42:00,283 in the world to solve this case. 882 00:42:00,384 --> 00:42:03,253 I've dealt with some really bad cases, 883 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:06,823 but for some reason, this one touched home the most, 884 00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:09,192 because it happened in the community I live in, 885 00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:10,860 it happened in the community I serve, 886 00:42:10,961 --> 00:42:12,862 and it doesn't happen that often. 887 00:42:12,963 --> 00:42:17,333 And there was tremendous pressure on my entire staff, 888 00:42:17,434 --> 00:42:20,537 and every single one of my investigators Rose up to 889 00:42:20,638 --> 00:42:23,139 the occasion, and we were able to 890 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,708 give a grieving family some closure, 891 00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:29,445 and that was the greatest reward we could have had. 71281

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