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This was something new to us.

A bombing in broad daylight
in a resort country club.

It was shocking.

A violent explosion.

He suffered a traumatic injury

from the shrapnel
in the shockwave.

His death was instantaneous.

A dark mystery
with multiple suspects.

Emotions flare.
She has a temper.

She's mad at Gary,

and it's alleged that
she might have a weapon.

Gary had lots of enemies.

There were millions of dollars
owed to different people.

He said,
"I'm gonna kill Gary Triano

because he ripped me off."

He may have had dealings
with the mob,

and he ends up killed
in a car bombing.

Those two things
could go together.

The truth will be revealed.

This is like
the dogs in the chase.

It's a trail that
we can't not follow.

That was the smoking gun to show

that they had
committed this murder.

Every day in North America,

dozens of people are murdered.

The key to solving
the toughest of these homicides

lies in the final 24 hours of
the victim's life.

To crack the case,

detectives must reconstruct
that critical timeline,

the minutes and hours
containing evidence

that can help unlock the mystery

and catch the killer.

In the Arizona desert lies
the city of Tucson,

a pleasure seeker's oasis
blessed with

beautiful landscapes
and year-long sunshine.

Tucson does have its upper class
areas that are designed

around recreation
and relaxation,

you know, the country clubs,
the plush golf courses.

Years ago,
real estate was booming.

They were building
resort destinations.

You had celebrities coming
here just to vacation because

they wanted to stay at
those kind of places.

That type of luxury lifestyle
was really growing in Tucson.

But on November 1, 1996,

the upscale world of the city's
rich and famous

is brutally shattered.

The 911 calls came in
about 5:40 P.M.

There'd been an explosion.

There was one person deceased.

I could see even before
I walked up

that the car was
completely destroyed.

The roof has been
torn off of it.

All the doors were blown open
from the shockwave.

The glass obviously is
shattered out of the vehicle.

The windshield had flown south
over 100, 150 feet,

and had landed in the swimming
pool of the country club.

It was something
we hadn't seen before.

Tucson, like any community, has

some awful murders that go on,

but we'd never seen a bombing

in broad daylight at, you know,
a resort country club.

This was something new to us.

It was shocking.

The victim is local
business tycoon,

52-year-old Gary Triano.

Gary Triano,
he started out as just

a working businessman
trying to make a living,

and he went from that to

being a multi-millionaire
land developer.

Gary was really
kind of an amazing person.

He was a high flyer in
the sense of he had

this ability to raise large
amounts of money for different

investment ventures.

He had five children,
two from his first marriage,

two from his second marriage,

and then he also
had a fifth child

with his ex-girlfriend, Robin.

Gary Triano was larger
than life.

He was so charismatic.

I knew him personally,

and, um,

always a gentleman and always
the life of the party.

Tasked with investigating

the murder of Gary Triano

are detectives James gamber
and Keith St. John.

They start by surveying
the crime scene,

looking for evidence.

Mr. Triano
was still very intact.

He suffered a lot of blast
injury to his right hand

and his right arm, and to
the right side of his face.

A lot of it was thermal
injury where

it's burning from the heat
of the explosion,

and there was a lot of traumatic

injury from the shrapnel
and the shock waves.

His death was instantaneous.

We relied on our bomb
technicians to

tell us where
the explosion took place.

They pointed to the right
front passenger seat,

said the device was sitting
right here.

It was very easy to determine
from his injuries that he had

been essentially leaning

over towards the front passenger
seat and had been picking

something up
when the device detonated.

The bomb techs also discovered
some burnt material,

and it was from a gym bag.

Detectives determine
the killer likely put the bomb

in the gym bag
and then placed it

on the front seat
of Gary's vehicle.

The bomb techs amaze me again,
because they actually

recovered the radio crystal
from the remote control device,

and they find parts of
the servo in the blast scenes.

And now we know it's
a remotely detonated device.

We learned that the radio
waves had to be line of sight.

That gave us the best clue
that the killer

was in the parking lot when
the device went off.

This was someone
sitting there watching,

and then they pushed
the button and made it go off.

The mindset of
somebody that could

sit there and just calmly switch

a button on a remote
control and blow him up,

that's pretty perverse.

It's devoid of any sort of
human feeling,

when you can just calmly

switch a button and snuff out
another human life.

That a person would
sit and wait for the precise

time to set the explosion off

indicated it was somebody
that was stalking,

someone that had
planned the murder.

It just wasn't random.

Time of death in a lot of

homicide investigations is
a real open question.

In this case,
the explosion was so powerful

that it stopped
Gary Triano's watch

at the precise time
of the explosion.

It stopped at exactly 5:38 P.M.

To catch the killer,
detectives will need to unravel

the last 24 hours of
Gary Triano's life.

Gary had been golfing with
a friend that afternoon,

and they golfed 2:30
to 4:30-ish,

and after, they'd gotten
some drinks,

a bite to eat
in the country club.

His golf partner had indicated
that it was right around 5:30

that the two of them walked
to the parking lot.

They chatted,
and the golf partner

then walked away
from Gary's car.

And it was just
shortly after that

that the explosion occurred.

As investigators
interview the employees

of the country club, they
learn something unsettling.

Quarter after four,
someone had called

the clubhouse asking about
Gary Triano.

And the caller's
not identified,

so this unidentified
person says,

"is he playing golf today?"
And the pro shop says, "yes."

And given the fact
that a little over an hour

later, he's in the parking lot
and the car explodes,

clearly, we wanted to know
who was making that phone call.

Could it have been
the killer? Absolutely.

That's something
that we have to look into.

But we couldn't trace
the phone call

back to its source.

After all
the different interviews,

I didn't see that we had
any concrete evidence that

anybody saw the killer in
the parking lot that night.

So we knew we were
in for hard work.

Looking for
information that could point

them in the direction
of the killer, detectives

speak with Gary's
girlfriend, Donna.

Gary's current girlfriend,

Donna, was at the scene
when I got there,

and I interviewed her,

and obviously, she is upset.

This was a horrifying incident.

Donna and his family members,

they want to know what
happened, who did this,

and I don't have any answers.

Donna tells detectives
that while Gary

was an optimistic man,

the downturn in the economy
hit him hard.

From '92 to '93, Gary Triano

went from $1.7 million

to $107,000.

A 93% loss in his income.

He wasn't able to meet
his financial obligations.

I mean at the country club,
he was behind on his dues,

but he always had that belief,

the next deal is going to work.

But given the amount of debt
that he had accumulated

in his recent past,

that plus the added pressure
of who Gary Triano was

and his status in the community,

there was a lot of stress
during that time for Gary.

Gary's financial
downfall started to wear on him.

Gary had become
a little bit paranoid.

He thought he was
being followed,

and so he became a little wary.

It was some tough times there.

I was told by a friend
of Gary Triano's that

a couple of months prior to
the murder that he had told

her that

he knew somebody was following
him, and it was real evident,

and he was scared.
He didn't know why.

But Donna says she has
a good idea who this stalker is.

She told law enforcement,

"hey, you might want
to be looking at

the former girlfriend, because
there was some animosity there."

Robin is a young lady
who is the ex-girlfriend.

We learned that
she had a baby with Gary.

The baby wasn't very old
at the time of the murder.

Robin reportedly was
angry because she had

Gary's child, and there was
no wedding in the future.

Donna was able to provide us
with a recording

of a phone message
that was left for Gary,

and it has Robin saying,
"you're going to pay.

Some day, you're going to pay."

With suspicion swirling around

Gary's ex-girlfriend, Robin,

detectives dig deeper
and learn that a year before

the murder, police responded

to a domestic violence call
at their home.

There was an incident
between the two of them

where she throws a vase at Gary.

And it's alleged that
she might have a weapon.

In any murder investigation,

you obviously look at people
that are close to the victim.

Who is mad at him,
who was angered by him?

So when you look at Robin,
she has a temper.

She's mad at Gary.

And after the birth of
the child, you know,

emotions flare.

Jealousy, anger.

Could this anger
carry over into murder?

Believing
Gary Triano's former girlfriend,

Robin, may have
wanted to kill him,

detectives track
her down at her home.

They confront Robin about
her angry encounters with Gary.

She says it wasn't
a happy separation.

There were some

angry phone calls,
and there was maybe

plates broken and things
like that.

There was animosity
when she first became pregnant.

However, after paternity
was decided

and Gary knew that
he was the father,

their relationship had
gotten better.

Robin tells detectives
that she has moved on

since Gary and is now married.

I spoke to her current husband,
who says, "yeah, she has...

She has a temper,"

but her grudges
didn't last long.

When she's mad, it's gonna
happen right here, right now,

and it's gonna be over
right here and right now.

Detectives ask Robin
about her activities

on the day Gary was killed.

They learn she was home
taking care of her child.

Robin's point of view
is he's a guy

who has always made a comeback,

and he is a good father to
the child,

so she has no benefit
in eliminating him.

Any future income that might
come from him would be gone.

And when detectives
look into Robin's alibi

on the day of the murder,

it checks out, and she's
eliminated as a suspect.

So the evidence doesn't take
us to Robin, and her personal

history doesn't support her

being involved in a long-term
plot to kill Gary.

Searching for new leads,

detectives look deeper into

Gary's personal life and turn
their focus to another ex,

his former wife, Pam Phillips.

They track Pam down at
her home in Aspen, Colorado.

Pam was very attractive.

She knew how to socialize.

She was an
up-and-comer financially.

She was working in the
commercial real estate market.

Pam tells
detectives she met Gary

when he was married,
but they fell madly in love.

Gary divorced his wife
and married Pam in 1986,

less than a year
after they first met.

They got married
in San Diego on a boat.

I believe Donald Trump
was at the wedding

and people, like, major actors.

So it was, you know,
champagne-flowing,

spare-no-expense
type of relationship.

It's been reported that
the wedding ring that Pamela got

from Gary was valued at
$250,000,

a quarter of a million dollars.

Pam tells detectives

they were very happy.

They went on to have
two children together.

But eight years later,
when Gary lost their money,

he changed...
His moods were up and down,

and their relationship suffered.

In 1994, after Gary Triano
lost his money,

his marriage collapsed, as well.

There was a lot of
tension there,

and it was a very
contentious divorce.

Pam talked about bringing
$2 million of her own money

into the relationship
when they got married,

and she found out that
that was gone.

There were a lot of fights
about custody issues

with respect to who was
gonna get the children,

Gary's financial responsibility.

So Pam Phillips
moves to Aspen and takes

the children with her
to start her new life.

But when you have
that kind of acrimonious divorce

between Gary and Pam Phillips,

it's something that
makes you a little concerned

about Pam's
potential involvement.

But, you know, nothing
is making sense yet.

Detectives ask Pam
about her whereabouts

on the day Gary was
violently killed.

Pam told us that she was in
Aspen that Friday night,

and we talked to people
that were with her.

So we were comfortable

that she was in Aspen at
the time of the murder.

Having ruled out
Pam as a suspect,

detectives turn back to
the crime scene,

looking for new leads.

The atf was reconstructing
the bomb from

the parts gathered out of
the parking lot,

and there were a couple
things that

were interesting about
the bomb reconstruction.

The battery supplies
were way more energy than

it really needed
to detonate the device.

That was an indication
that perhaps

the person was not familiar
with making bombs,

they were a novice
at making bombs.

The nature of the bomb itself,

18-inch pipe bomb
stuffed with a pound

of gunpowder rigged up
to this remote control,

was not sophisticated,

and it was really more
indicative of someone that

may have learned this

from people that were
making bombs in

the '70s or the '80s...

And gave an indication that
maybe this was

an older individual.

Armed with new
information about the killer,

detectives take another look
at Gary Triano's close

friends and associates.

Detectives are
looking into various

financial motives.

Gary had lots of business
partners, and he had enemies.

Former business partners
were suing him.

I mean, there were millions
of dollars,

at least alleged, that Gary owed
to different people.

Could one of them have been
responsible for Gary's death?

Are any of these people
saying, "I'm giving up"

"on ever getting my money back,

"so I'm gonna exact some form
of retribution,

and kill Gary Triano."

Believing real estate
mogul Gary Triano

could have been murdered
by someone

he owed money to,
detectives shift their focus

to his business associates.

People talked about a man by
the name of Neil mcneese.

Mcneese hated Gary Triano.

Mcneese is
an actual billionaire

who lived here in Tucson,
his family had some uranium

mines in northern Arizona,
and they made a lot of money.

Gary had borrowed
some money from

this guy, mcneese...
He'd borrowed $80,000,

and as collateral,

Gary had given mcneese what
he claimed to be

a quarter-million-dollar
diamond ring

that belonged to
the ex-wife, Pam.

But according to mcneese,
the diamond was fake.

It was a cubic zirconium.

It was worth, at best,
a few thousand dollars.

Could mcneese have been
responsible for the murder

because of the $80,000 that
Gary hadn't paid him back?

But it turns out
the information is a dead end.

Mcneese was suspicious,
but that doesn't really get you

anywhere because there was no
evidence at that point in time

mcneese had anything to do
with the murder at all.

Having exhausted
yet another lead,

the investigation into
Gary Triano's murder stalls.

As an investigator, you want
to do the best you can for both

the case and especially

the family who has
just lost a loved one.

They're looking to you
for answers,

and then when you add
Gary Triano

was well known in the community,

there was a lot of stress
during that time

the difficult part of this case
was just the sheer number of

potential suspects
that had to be looked at,

the number of leads that had
to be gone through

and basically triaged.

You had to look at them and say,

well, is this something that
really could fit?

Not only could it fit,

but is there evidence
to back up the theory?

No, so you've moved on
to the next one.

Searching for new leads,

detectives dig deeper into
Gary Triano's business

connections, looking for someone

angry enough to want to kill
him in such a ruthless way.

Gary was really good at getting

people to invest money
in his projects.

Some of the people
weren't the kind of

people that most of us
would seek money from.

I mean, there were
mobsters back on

the east coast
that Gary was indebted to.

And so our thought was,
was this mob-related?

Because you just
don't see people

getting killed in car bombings
in Tucson.

Detectives learn
one of the people

Gary Triano
owes money to is Gary fears,

a gangster from Florida.

Gary Triano was marketing
building a casino on

a small island that belonged
to the republic of China,

and Gary purported that
he had permission from

the Chinese government
to run a casino there.

Gary fears fronted a lot of
money toward that endeavor.

But the endeavor fell through.

China wasn't going
to allow the gaming.

A lot of people
felt that Gary had

misrepresented the approval
from the people's republic

of China.

They only had local officials'
approval to do this.

Gary fears is angry.

He lost tens of thousands
of dollars in total.

He was somebody
that had to be looked at.

He was not the nicest guy.

Word on the street,

what people told us
is that Gary fears

had a shady background,

and he was someone to be feared,

someone that you should...
You know,

you put yourself at risk if
you crossed him.

Believing Gary Triano
may have been killed

as retribution for
double-crossing fears,

investigators track him down.

Gary fears is of
interest to us,

and you have to evaluate
the person.

Were they capable of it?

Did they have the means,
motive, and opportunity?

When police question fears,

he admits that he was furious
with Gary Triano about being

misled over the China deal.

He says, "yeah, I lost
tens of thousands of dollars."

But Gary fears was suing
Gary Triano to get

money back from him,

and Gary dissolved all his
debts by declaring bankruptcy.

It's almost
an automatic reflex when

your business ventures

overwhelm your capital,
is you file bankruptcy

and absolve your debt.

Gary fears was
greatly frustrated

by Gary's financial dealing.

Maybe his anger over the money,

the financial loss,
overrode his common sense.

After
a business deal gone bad,

police believe mobster
Gary fears may have something

to do with the brutal killing
of Gary Triano.

They ask him point blank

if he's responsible
for Triano's death.

He goes very stone cold,

absolute, looked at us and said,

"I'm not gonna kill somebody
for several thousand dollars."

Thomas: The mob complicates
an investigation, because it's

a tight-knit group that
doesn't make mistakes easily,

and also,
they are gonna have no problem

lying when it comes to
police investigations.

Doubtful fears
is being honest with them,

detectives ask him to take
a polygraph test.

Mr. Fears agreed to
be polygraphed

and was asked again point
blank in the polygraph,

did you kill Gary Triano?

Did you cause
Gary Triano's death?

Mr. Fears passed the polygraph.

And in addition
to the polygraph,

Gary fears provides alibi
that he was at

a family wedding, and there's,
you know, credible witnesses

who can place him at the wedding
at the time of the murder.

We talked to as many people
as we could.

We found no direct link
between Gary fears

and the bombing.

Nine years pass,

and just when it looks like
the case will never be solved,

detectives get a surprising
new lead from police in

Aspen, Colorado.

The explosion here in Tucson
made national news,

and so I received a call from
detective crowley in Aspen.

He talked about
his fraud investigation,

where a person by the name of
Ron young was a suspect,

and according to
detective crowley,

he had a connection
with Pam Phillips,

Gary's ex-wife.

Ron young apparently had scammed

several people in Aspen.

Pam was one of the victims.

Detective Jim crowley says,

"there's something really
odd here."

Pam Phillips was alleging
that Ron defrauded her

for tens of thousands
of dollars,

and she was very vocal about
it within the community.

But when we as law enforcement
approach her and say,

"hey, we need to
include you in our case,

"along with these other fraud
victims," she just never

makes herself available.

It's almost as if she's

distancing herself
from law enforcement.

It was interesting.

Detective crowley outlines

Ron young's scam for
the investigators.

Ron young would
befriend people and profess

he was a professional,

somebody who knew finances
for small businesses.

And he would become involved
in that business

and then take money
from the business.

He's defrauding people
under the guise of

you'll end up with more money
in the bank.

You let me handle
your financial matters.

And he convinced people
to let him do it,

and the whole time,
he's skimming your money.

He's taking it and putting it
in his pocket.

When Aspen police
go to arrest Ron for fraud,

they discover he has fled
the state.

They track down his Van
in California.

Ron is nowhere to be found,

but what they find in the Van
turns the investigation

on its head.

Jim crowley looks
at Ron young's Van

and finds Gary Triano's
divorce paperwork.

There's a list of people
who would know Gary Triano,

and there's also
a map of Tucson.

What they find next raises

detectives' suspicions
to the next level.

We find a receipt
for a local hotel

that puts Ron young in a hotel
that's essentially halfway

between where
Gary Triano's living

and the la Paloma country club
where he was killed.

He's there for about 18 days
in the month of July 1996.

So does that coincide with when

Gary felt like he was
being followed?

We were exploring
every possibility.

Certainly
we're starting to think,

did Ron young have something
to do with Gary Triano's death?

Was there some sort of

relationship beyond this
fraudulent activity

between Pam Phillips
and Ron young?

Detectives gamber
and St. John

take another look at
Pam Phillips

and find something
that raises a red flag.

Even though the divorce had
been finalized

for quite some time,

Pam continued to carry
a $2 million

life insurance policy
on Gary's life.

That catches your eye.

The life insurance
policy pays

the money to Gary
and Pam's two children.

Since the children
are below the age

of 18, the $2 million
goes directly to Pam.

So in January of
1997, Pam Phillips

gets $2.1 million
because of Gary's death.

But it's what
detectives learn next

that puts the spotlight
directly on Pam.

Up till that point in time,
Pam had been living in a duplex.

Within a few months of getting
the money, Pam has moved from

that duplex into what I can
only describe as a beautiful,

beautiful home that she has
now purchased with the proceeds

from the life insurance policy.

That raised some concerns
with investigators because

the children
were the primary beneficiaries,

and now this money is being
used to buy

this really lavish home.

So when you follow the money,

Pam has a $2 million reason
for Gary to die.

Believing Pam Phillips
and Ron young

may have conspired
to kill Gary Triano,

investigators pay another
visit to Pam in Aspen.

When they ask her about
Ron young, there's an audible

"gulp!
Where did that come from?"

Kind of reaction from her,

which immediately caught
our attention.

She maintained
that she had hired him

to help her business.

That's all it was.

She claimed that although she
didn't want to prosecute that,

you know, he had taken
some money from her,

and she didn't know
where he was.

People lie
to the police all the time,

and a lot of times, it's good
to have those lies,

because if you can prove a lie,

that's even more important
than a confession.

I felt Pam was definitely

minimizing her relationship
with Ron young.

Investigators speak
to Pam's circle of friends,

hoping to uncover the truth
about her relationship

with Ron.

The nanny that worked
for Pam in Aspen,

he describes a very intimate,
ongoing relationship.

Ron young would
come over for dinner.

There'd be candlelight,
there'd be wine,

and the two of them
would disappear

to the upstairs bedroom
for the night.

So their relationship
goes well beyond

the scope of what
she had described to us.

There's a growing
concern about what Pam

and Ron young did.

Could they have been
responsible for Gary's death?

Could one of them
have been the bomber?

We're pretty sure
it's not Pam because,

you know, she has an alibi.

She was in Aspen at the time,

but could Pam have hired
Ron young or got him

in some way to commit
the murder?

This is like
the dogs in the chase.

It's a trail that
we can't just not follow.

Working the theory
that Gary Triano's ex-wife,

Pam Phillips,
could be the mastermind

behind his brutal murder
in 1996, detectives focus on

finding her missing accomplice,
Ron young.

We're thinking,
if we could get Ron young,

we might be able to fill in
a lot of the blanks

that are here, because we...

Something is really
fishy about what's going on.

There's an arrest
warrant for Ron young,

but no one can find him.
This guy is gone.

He is off the face of the earth.

Detectives turn to
a different strategy,

hoping to get a lead.

We go to "america�s most
wanted" and say,

would you feature this guy?

We want to find him.

We have the fraud case,

and we have the fact that
we think he's directly involved

in a homicide in Tucson.

So "america�s most wanted"
ultimately does the TV show,

and they feature Ron young.

Detectives soon
get their big break

from a caller in Florida.

A caller says,
"I'm Ron young's chiropractor.

"I know him as Kelly young,
but that's

definitely the same guy."

And he says, "he has an
appointment with me tomorrow."

Because of this TV show,

we know where Ron young is,
we know where to find him.

We know where he's gonna be at
10 o'clock the next morning.

This is a huge break
in the case.

The broward county sheriff's
department sends

their fugitive team out to
the chiropractor's.

And sure enough, right on time
at the appointment,

here comes Ron young.

And he's taken into custody.

Ron young is arrested
on fraud charges,

then flown to Arizona to be
interrogated by Tucson police.

Ron young is a con man.

He's confident.
He's relaxed, he's amiable.

He'll talk to you about
everything and anything.

But he won't ever answer
a direct question.

With Ron in
their crosshairs,

investigators press him
for answers.

What's your relationship
with Pam Phillips?

Do you know Gary Triano?

For hours, we sat there
and talked to him.

He says he knows nothing about
Gary's insurance policy.

He has never been to Tucson.

Just hours and hours of long,
roundabout denials.

But while Ron young
doesn't give up any information,

his belongings do.

Atf agents search
his hotel room,

his apartment,
and his storage locker.

There's a box of stuff.

In that box are about
15 microcassettes.

It was a mother lode
of information.

There were years and years of

correspondence between
Pam Phillips and Ron young,

and although they don't
get specific,

you know, that "I went out and
killed Gary Triano for you,"

he says things that are more
sort of shaded,

like, "I did something
for you that"

"nobody else would have done
in the world.

I took care of the problem
that you were having."

From the recordings,
investigators learn Pam had

an arrangement with Ron where
she'd pay him $400,000 out of

the life insurance money
to kill her ex-husband,

Gary Triano,

but it seems she was
late on her payments.

That was chilling...
When I heard that,

that was absolutely chilling.

By keeping audio recordings,
it implicates himself,

but at the same time, it's
a bargaining chip to ensure

that if he were to ever go down,

he was gonna make sure that
she went down with him.

That was, in fact,
the smoking gun to show

that the two of them had
committed this murder.

This is incredible.

I mean, this is just
this side of a confession.

Based on all the evidence,

detectives now believe
Pam orchestrated

Gary Triano's murder.

Pam Phillips stood to gain

a lot by having Gary dead...
$2 million.

Pam Phillips was
coming down to her last

few thousand dollars.

She didn't have any immediate
prospects of marrying

another millionaire,

and she needed to do something.

She had this life insurance
policy there,

and in Ron young, she found
someone that she could

manipulate,
and she was using him

with this sexual relationship.

So she was able
to convince him with

the promise of payment
into killing her ex-husband.

In this case, is this
some kind of an archetype of

a black widow who is motivated
to maintain relationships

for their own monetary gain?

I see, perhaps, Pam
as somebody who felt entitled,

both in terms of a particular
lifestyle, not just finances,

and so perhaps she felt that
she was owed

and deserved more and went
after what she thought

was rightfully hers.

Prosecutors charge
Pam Phillips and Ron young

with the murder of Gary Triano.

When we go to arrest Pam,
we find out approximately a week

prior to the warrants
being issued,

she had left the United States.

She's gone.

Working with different
law enforcement

agencies, eventually,

and we find out Pam is in
lugano, Switzerland.

We have details down to
the apartment

that she's staying at, we know

what car she's driving,
who she's dating,

and where she has lunch
most every day.

We have that locked down.

But we went to arrest Pam
in Switzerland,

and she wasn't there.

That was a huge disappointment.

Eventually, through Interpol,

she's ultimately found
in a hotel in Austria.

We extradite her back
to the United States.

One of the things we had to do
because the European Union does

not have the death penalty,

we had to agree that we would
not seek the death penalty

in her case.

Back in the United States,

Pam Phillips refuses to
cooperate with law enforcement.

Pam never gave us a statement.

I more expected that Ron young
would give us a statement

implicating Pam,
and he never said a word.

Neither one of them would talk
against the other.

But we have all this evidence

about what might have
happened here.

Detectives are
now able to reconstruct

the final 24 hours of
Gary Triano's life.

November 1, 1996, Gary went
to lunch with a friend.

They had their lunch
at one in the afternoon.

Then Gary proceeded over
to la Paloma country club.

2:30 to 4:30,
he's out golfing with a friend.

During that period of time,

when he went to the golf
course that afternoon,

Ron young was stalking him.

Ron young had the bomb
that would end his life.

At 3:30, while Gary's
on the golf course,

Ron young walks up to his car.

He has the bag
that conceals the bomb.

Than Ron young places it on

the front passenger seat
of Gary's car

and walks away.

At the end of golfing,

around 5:30,

Gary pays his bill, and he
walks out into the parking lot.

Then at 5:38, Ron young
flips a switch

on the remote control.

The device detonates,
and the car explodes,

killing Gary Triano.

The family put up with a lot
from us... all our failings,

they put up with those.

And then finally,
I was able to call Gary's

oldest daughter,

she was the family
representative,

and I got her on the phone,
and I was able to tell her,

"we found the killers."

In October 2008,
Ron young and Pam Phillips

are charged with conspiracy
and first-degree murder.

They're both sentenced to life
in prison with no parole.

After Pam Phillips is
convicted of killing

looks at the audience,

and in the front row

were Gary Triano's family.

She looks at them,

and she says,
"I did not do this.

"I did not kill Gary.

"I am not responsible.

"He is the father of
my children.

I did not do this."

But investigators
are convinced they finally

brought Gary Triano's
killers to justice.

It was important
to us to hold accountable

the people that we had no doubt
committed this murder.

This was not a rage killing.

This was not
a spur-of-the-moment killing.

This took lots and lots
of planning.

So when you think about
the fact that Pam's

carrying on with her life,

she's raising her children and,
at the same time, for months,

she's planning that
her ex-husband is gonna die...

That's cold, that's cruel,

and that's what
stands out to me.

All homicides are sad.

But in this case,
I knew the victim,

and I knew the persons involved

and how the Triano family
was devastated.

I don't think
there's ever closure.

So while they may have closure
with the persons responsible

are now

in prison and will never hurt
anybody again,

it still doesn't bring
Gary back.