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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,942 --> 00:00:10,976 This was definitely a frenzy, this... 2 00:00:11,077 --> 00:00:12,517 Essentially, the person went berserk. 3 00:00:12,579 --> 00:00:14,780 A vicious slaying. 4 00:00:14,881 --> 00:00:16,048 People were terrified. 5 00:00:16,149 --> 00:00:18,917 People need a reason that bad things happen. 6 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:22,054 A dark mystery with multiple suspects. 7 00:00:22,155 --> 00:00:24,790 They were sisters, but there was no sisterly love. 8 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:28,827 I'm just thinking, "what do I do if he freaks out?" 9 00:00:30,397 --> 00:00:32,531 There was a lot of hate, there was a lot of discontent 10 00:00:32,632 --> 00:00:34,433 within that family circle. 11 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:37,202 The truth will be revealed. 12 00:00:37,303 --> 00:00:40,873 What stood out to me is this crime scene is... 13 00:00:40,974 --> 00:00:43,542 There was no rhyme or reason, it just didn't make sense. 14 00:00:44,811 --> 00:00:46,912 If Keith did this, he needs to pay for it. 15 00:00:51,785 --> 00:00:53,585 Every day in North America, 16 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:56,055 dozens of people are murdered. 17 00:00:56,156 --> 00:00:58,724 The key to solving the toughest of these homicides 18 00:00:58,825 --> 00:01:01,894 lies in the final 24 hours of the victim's life. 19 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:04,229 To crack the case, 20 00:01:04,330 --> 00:01:07,966 detectives must reconstruct that critical timeline, 21 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,636 the minutes and hours containing evidence 22 00:01:10,737 --> 00:01:12,805 that can help unlock the mystery 23 00:01:12,906 --> 00:01:13,906 and catch the killer. 24 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:25,784 On the banks of the St. Joseph river 25 00:01:25,885 --> 00:01:27,453 sits niles, Michigan, 26 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:29,655 a community brimming with civic pride. 27 00:01:31,658 --> 00:01:34,960 So niles is... It's a small town, um, 28 00:01:35,061 --> 00:01:36,261 everybody knows everybody. 29 00:01:38,731 --> 00:01:40,276 It's the kind of community where you could meet 30 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:42,301 a stranger, and you both know the same person. 31 00:01:45,305 --> 00:01:48,173 And fortunately, we don't have a lot of violent crime here. 32 00:01:51,277 --> 00:01:52,478 If crime happens, 33 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:55,013 people are more than willing to help you. 34 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:57,082 People respect police. Yes, sir. No, sir. 35 00:01:57,183 --> 00:01:58,550 Here, people get involved. 36 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,288 But on one cold February afternoon, 37 00:02:03,389 --> 00:02:06,859 something so shocking happens, no one knows what to do. 38 00:02:28,848 --> 00:02:31,383 We received a 911 call from a father who says 39 00:02:31,518 --> 00:02:33,051 that his son and his daughter-in-law 40 00:02:33,153 --> 00:02:35,787 are deceased... He thinks it's a homicide. 41 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:52,037 I immediately called one of the troopers on a cellphone. 42 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:53,865 I actually said, "you need to get over here." 43 00:02:54,908 --> 00:02:57,709 The victims are Carolyn and John tarwacki, 44 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:01,413 two beloved musicians who live with their nephew, kelan. 45 00:03:03,049 --> 00:03:05,117 John and Carolyn met late in life. 46 00:03:05,218 --> 00:03:06,852 They met online. 47 00:03:06,953 --> 00:03:08,754 They were just in a great place in 48 00:03:08,855 --> 00:03:10,266 their life, because they had found each other, 49 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:11,456 they were happily married. 50 00:03:13,593 --> 00:03:16,528 Carolyn was a good soul, as I put it. 51 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:20,432 She used to pick up, 52 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:24,503 old music instruments, and she would repair them 53 00:03:24,604 --> 00:03:28,106 and try to help kids who couldn't afford an instrument. 54 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,908 And John was a Navy veteran. 55 00:03:30,977 --> 00:03:32,477 Hard workers, both of them. 56 00:03:35,148 --> 00:03:37,382 Tasked with investigating their deaths, 57 00:03:37,483 --> 00:03:42,054 are detectives fabian Suarez of the Michigan state police 58 00:03:42,155 --> 00:03:44,223 and local detective Kristen daly, 59 00:03:44,324 --> 00:03:46,858 who has lived in this community for 20 years. 60 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:50,729 When we arrived there, that's when the lightbulb went 61 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:53,031 off for me that, these... These people that I know. 62 00:03:58,071 --> 00:03:59,071 My sister-in-law was very 63 00:03:59,172 --> 00:04:01,673 good friends with Carolyn in high school, 64 00:04:01,774 --> 00:04:04,276 so there was an immediate connection there, 65 00:04:04,377 --> 00:04:06,011 and I felt a lot more responsibility. 66 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:12,751 Detectives begin analyzing the crime scene, 67 00:04:12,852 --> 00:04:15,654 trying to imagine what might have taken place. 68 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:19,925 We walk into the foyer area of the house. 69 00:04:20,026 --> 00:04:21,460 Obviously, we take a quick moment, 70 00:04:21,561 --> 00:04:23,495 we stand, we scan. 71 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:25,397 I can see John tarwacki. 72 00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:28,667 He's got stab wounds on his back. 73 00:04:31,337 --> 00:04:33,839 We walk over to the right, there's a living room. 74 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:35,474 We look in there, and we see Carolyn. 75 00:04:43,049 --> 00:04:44,916 We look to the left, there's a bathroom there. 76 00:04:46,619 --> 00:04:49,087 One of the first things I noticed was there's a towel 77 00:04:49,188 --> 00:04:51,356 on the floor with hair clippings, 78 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:53,425 and there's a razor on the sink, so to me, 79 00:04:53,526 --> 00:04:55,427 that tells me he was shaving his head. 80 00:04:57,430 --> 00:05:00,299 My gut feeling is the killer is confronted by John. 81 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:04,770 He takes the first shot. 82 00:05:04,871 --> 00:05:07,906 He hits John right in the jaw, he shoots again, 83 00:05:08,007 --> 00:05:10,676 John throws up his arm, and then he turns, 84 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:12,744 and he... Like he's trying to escape 85 00:05:12,845 --> 00:05:15,547 and he collapses right there. 86 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:18,717 So now John is out of the picture. 87 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:25,757 Now the killer can take his... Focus his attention on Carolyn. 88 00:05:30,363 --> 00:05:32,864 At the time that you first looked at her, 89 00:05:32,965 --> 00:05:35,300 it was almost hard to tell exactly what had happened 90 00:05:35,401 --> 00:05:37,936 to her... She had been badly beaten. 91 00:05:39,972 --> 00:05:43,875 Being beaten is usually very, um, very immediate. 92 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:48,714 It usually dictates that that's somebody that you know 93 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:50,015 really well and you're really, 94 00:05:50,116 --> 00:05:54,019 really angry at when you see that level of injury and that 95 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,987 level of violence visited upon somebody. 96 00:05:57,056 --> 00:05:59,176 And later, it was determined that she was both stabbed 97 00:05:59,258 --> 00:06:00,292 and shot, 98 00:06:00,426 --> 00:06:03,395 and that's an extreme level of violence 99 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:07,466 against the nicest person that you would... literally would 100 00:06:07,567 --> 00:06:09,835 ever meet, made absolutely no sense. 101 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:13,071 To find out who ruthlessly killed 102 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:14,473 this loving couple, 103 00:06:14,574 --> 00:06:17,509 police must reconstruct the final 24 hours 104 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:20,112 of the tarwackis' lives. 105 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:22,280 The timeline's important in every homicide case. 106 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:24,516 You have to know where all your players are in any 107 00:06:24,617 --> 00:06:26,017 given moment 108 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:28,186 to create... either to create an alibi or to break 109 00:06:28,287 --> 00:06:32,224 an alibi, to set your timeline so you can discover, 110 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:34,793 when was their vulnerability? When did the murder occur? 111 00:06:37,697 --> 00:06:39,297 Investigators start building 112 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,266 John and Carolyn's timeline 113 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:43,468 by interviewing the person who found them, 114 00:06:43,569 --> 00:06:44,803 John's father. 115 00:06:45,938 --> 00:06:48,440 When I first met John tarwacki, sr., 116 00:06:48,541 --> 00:06:50,809 obviously her was very distraught. 117 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:53,111 How else could you be? You just walked in, 118 00:06:53,212 --> 00:06:55,280 you find your son and your daughter-in-law murdered. 119 00:06:57,817 --> 00:06:59,084 He said John and Carolyn had 120 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:02,287 an 8 A.M. meeting at the high school. 121 00:07:02,388 --> 00:07:05,690 They never showed up. This is not like Carolyn. 122 00:07:05,792 --> 00:07:06,892 She will not miss work. 123 00:07:06,993 --> 00:07:09,027 She will not miss appointments, anything like that. 124 00:07:10,463 --> 00:07:13,498 So the school called quinlan & fabish, 125 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:15,300 which is where they worked, 126 00:07:15,401 --> 00:07:17,202 and said Carolyn never showed up. 127 00:07:17,303 --> 00:07:18,804 Um, what happened? 128 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:27,112 John's sister worked for the company, too, so they called 129 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:30,816 John's father like, "can you go check and see what's going on?" 130 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:34,453 He, in turn, said he tried calling the house. 131 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:37,656 He tried calling the cellphones, and nothing happened. 132 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:40,358 So he decided to get in the car and go knock on the door. 133 00:07:43,663 --> 00:07:47,065 Hoping to flesh out the tarwackis' timeline further, 134 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:49,868 detectives reach out to Carolyn's mother, Sharon. 135 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,039 Sharon tells me that she talked with 136 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:56,308 Carolyn on the phone that morning. 137 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:58,810 She was having some issues with her computer, 138 00:07:58,911 --> 00:08:01,146 so she was just venting some frustration to her mom. 139 00:08:01,247 --> 00:08:04,149 Just a normal touching base with your mom in the morning. 140 00:08:05,885 --> 00:08:08,053 Sharon said there was nothing about that phone call 141 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:10,288 that made her... 142 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:12,491 Suspicious. 143 00:08:12,592 --> 00:08:14,860 Detectives pull Sharon's cellphone records 144 00:08:14,961 --> 00:08:18,296 and verify that the call started at 6:10 A.M. 145 00:08:18,397 --> 00:08:20,432 And lasted exactly 12 minutes. 146 00:08:21,534 --> 00:08:23,902 The last time she talks to her mother is 6:22, 147 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:26,304 um, says goodbye, 148 00:08:26,405 --> 00:08:29,774 not realizing, either one, that it's the last time. 149 00:08:29,876 --> 00:08:31,553 But what happened after she hung up 150 00:08:31,577 --> 00:08:33,478 with her mother is still a mystery. 151 00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:36,481 Knowing that Carolyn was on her computer 152 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:39,217 that morning gives them something to work with. 153 00:08:39,318 --> 00:08:42,787 Investigators dig into her laptop logs. 154 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:45,957 Carolyn logged onto the computer at 6:43 A.M., 155 00:08:46,058 --> 00:08:49,928 and then 7:03, the computer goes dormant, meaning that 156 00:08:50,029 --> 00:08:52,597 there's no longer any interaction, like, 157 00:08:52,698 --> 00:08:53,798 with the keyboard. 158 00:08:59,105 --> 00:09:02,407 Every time you hit a key on any device, 159 00:09:02,508 --> 00:09:03,808 there is a record of that. 160 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:07,779 And when we see habitual use and ongoing keystrokes and then 161 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,781 a sudden stoppage, 162 00:09:09,882 --> 00:09:14,619 that stoppage point serves as a great start for what happened 163 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,855 next... were they interrupted, 164 00:09:16,956 --> 00:09:18,467 were they pulled away from the computer, 165 00:09:18,491 --> 00:09:21,693 or were they actually murdered at that particular time? 166 00:09:21,794 --> 00:09:24,229 Based on when the computer goes dormant, 167 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:26,898 Carolyn and John could have been killed any time between 168 00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:28,466 7:03 A.M. 169 00:09:28,568 --> 00:09:32,137 And just before their bodies were found at 12:45 P.M. 170 00:09:35,041 --> 00:09:37,375 The bodies are sent off for autopsy, 171 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:40,345 and the forensics team starts scouring the house for 172 00:09:40,446 --> 00:09:42,480 potential murder weapons. 173 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:43,815 We're looking for a knife, 174 00:09:43,916 --> 00:09:45,684 and we're looking for a gun at that point. 175 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:51,856 We don't know if he used one of kitchen knives. 176 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,261 So we took all the knives 177 00:09:56,362 --> 00:09:59,097 that looked like they could have been used for the murders, 178 00:09:59,198 --> 00:10:02,601 and we sent those to the medical examiner. 179 00:10:02,702 --> 00:10:04,436 As they continue to work their way 180 00:10:04,537 --> 00:10:07,038 through the crime scene, investigators struggle 181 00:10:07,139 --> 00:10:09,541 to come up with a rational theory for the murders. 182 00:10:11,177 --> 00:10:14,112 What stood out to me is this crime scene 183 00:10:14,213 --> 00:10:17,082 is there was no rhyme or reason. 184 00:10:17,183 --> 00:10:20,218 There's no sign of any forced entry whatsoever. 185 00:10:20,319 --> 00:10:23,054 There were valuables laying around. 186 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:25,624 You could think it was a breaking and entering, 187 00:10:25,725 --> 00:10:27,325 someone had gone in to steal things, 188 00:10:27,426 --> 00:10:30,362 but there was computers, there were laptops, iPads, 189 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,330 cash money laying around. 190 00:10:32,431 --> 00:10:35,533 There was even prescription drugs in the medicine cabinet. 191 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:37,846 It's not until they make their way to the back of 192 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:41,573 the house that the first clue into the identity of the killer 193 00:10:41,674 --> 00:10:43,074 reveals itself. 194 00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:47,345 From where we're standing, I can hear a dog going crazy, 195 00:10:47,446 --> 00:10:50,248 and it turns out this is wrigley, a 200-pound master. 196 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:57,822 The tarwackis had a large dog. 197 00:10:59,291 --> 00:11:02,927 It was ginormous, and it was on the back porch area. 198 00:11:03,029 --> 00:11:05,296 And so in their kitchen, you turned, 199 00:11:05,398 --> 00:11:06,642 and you could either go down in the basement, 200 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:08,099 or you can go out into a back porch. 201 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:11,780 Once we get to the back door, 202 00:11:11,804 --> 00:11:13,138 that's when we see footprints. 203 00:11:15,274 --> 00:11:16,908 One set of footprints coming in. 204 00:11:17,009 --> 00:11:19,277 One set of footprints going... coming out. 205 00:11:21,814 --> 00:11:23,158 The footprints showed that somebody had 206 00:11:23,182 --> 00:11:25,583 entered and exited through the back door, 207 00:11:25,685 --> 00:11:28,787 um, which was unusual, because they would 208 00:11:28,888 --> 00:11:30,855 have had to get past that dog, 209 00:11:30,956 --> 00:11:34,559 and that dog was incredibly protective of Carolyn. 210 00:11:34,660 --> 00:11:37,696 So normally, if you are a stranger, and you open 211 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:39,898 someone's back porch door and you are 212 00:11:39,999 --> 00:11:43,168 greeted by a large mastiff, 213 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:44,703 you turn around and walk away. 214 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:46,304 You don't continue to enter the home. 215 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:49,474 And if it's a stranger, why is 216 00:11:49,575 --> 00:11:52,711 the level of violence on Carolyn so great? 217 00:11:52,812 --> 00:11:54,732 That told US that it was somebody that they knew. 218 00:11:56,182 --> 00:11:58,650 Now, they're hoping this path will 219 00:11:58,751 --> 00:12:00,585 lead them to the killer's doorstep. 220 00:12:02,054 --> 00:12:03,354 You have to work fast. 221 00:12:03,456 --> 00:12:05,623 You gotta work furiously, because if you did it once 222 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:06,725 and you did it twice, 223 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:07,959 he can definitely do it again. 224 00:12:18,170 --> 00:12:21,139 Investigators believe that the rage-fueled homicide of 225 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,807 Carolyn and John tarwacki 226 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:25,777 was an intentional act committed by someone 227 00:12:25,878 --> 00:12:27,078 who knew them. 228 00:12:27,179 --> 00:12:29,781 A crime like this could be really devastating 229 00:12:29,882 --> 00:12:32,050 for a small community. 230 00:12:32,118 --> 00:12:35,253 Word would get out, and it would likely take over 231 00:12:35,354 --> 00:12:38,089 the town within a few hours... There would be 232 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:41,192 a sense of, "we're all in danger... who's next?" 233 00:12:43,062 --> 00:12:45,730 The only piece of hard evidence investigators have 234 00:12:45,831 --> 00:12:46,998 from the crime scene 235 00:12:47,099 --> 00:12:49,801 is a trail of footprints at the back of the house. 236 00:12:51,036 --> 00:12:53,271 Well, we're pretty sure there's one killer. 237 00:12:53,372 --> 00:12:54,873 There's only one set of footprints. 238 00:12:56,809 --> 00:12:59,577 The stride on the way in was short, like a normal walking 239 00:12:59,678 --> 00:13:01,746 stride, and the straight on the way out was wider, 240 00:13:01,847 --> 00:13:02,947 like a running stride. 241 00:13:05,117 --> 00:13:07,919 It tells US that we know when he approached the house, 242 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:09,554 he was calm. 243 00:13:09,655 --> 00:13:13,057 And when you left the house, he was agitated 244 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:17,095 and fleeing, because he had just committed the murders. 245 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:21,533 Once we get photographs, they are able to get US 246 00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:24,402 a good shoe size and a very good tread pattern. 247 00:13:25,671 --> 00:13:27,182 We could actually look at the picture 248 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:29,107 and see 12 in the shoe impression, 249 00:13:29,208 --> 00:13:31,910 so we knew it was a size 12 shoe. 250 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,115 And we were able to confirm it was to a route 66 shoe 251 00:13:37,216 --> 00:13:40,685 that was put out by K-Mart but discontinued in 2008. 252 00:13:44,056 --> 00:13:45,824 So this tells me this person 253 00:13:45,925 --> 00:13:47,959 is wearing old shoes that were cheap, 254 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:50,361 basically, it's not a person that has 255 00:13:50,462 --> 00:13:52,363 a lot of money, that's spending a lot of money. 256 00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:54,999 Using the footprints, 257 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,168 detectives follow the killer's path. 258 00:13:58,304 --> 00:13:59,504 There's the easement. 259 00:13:59,605 --> 00:14:01,973 Nobody really knows... unless you're from that area, 260 00:14:02,074 --> 00:14:03,794 you're not gonna know that easement's there. 261 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:06,811 It's kind of like a power line easement, so those footprints, 262 00:14:06,912 --> 00:14:09,981 we were able to follow 'em away from the house towards 263 00:14:10,082 --> 00:14:11,149 what's yankee street. 264 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:15,220 So we do a neighborhood canvass. 265 00:14:15,321 --> 00:14:16,487 It's just as it's called. 266 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:19,757 We go to every door within a mile 267 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:21,993 north, west, south, east, every direction, 268 00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:23,728 we knock on the doors. 269 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,167 One of the apartments investigators 270 00:14:29,268 --> 00:14:31,970 canvass belongs to Sherry lintz. 271 00:14:32,071 --> 00:14:33,805 When they knock on her door, 272 00:14:33,906 --> 00:14:36,307 they find her son, Keith, there, as well. 273 00:14:38,177 --> 00:14:40,712 Keith is known to US... He's had many, 274 00:14:40,813 --> 00:14:42,780 many problems with law enforcement. 275 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,782 We know the lintz family. 276 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,518 They just... a lot of... A lot of the family members 277 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,355 have been... unfortunately, been on the wrong side of law. 278 00:14:51,757 --> 00:14:54,726 Detective Suarez consults local detective daly 279 00:14:54,827 --> 00:14:56,361 on whether or not she thinks 280 00:14:56,462 --> 00:14:58,963 Keith could be a person of interest. 281 00:14:59,064 --> 00:15:01,232 I'd heard the name, I knew that he was 282 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:02,973 in trouble and had been in trouble and had 283 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:04,068 a criminal history, 284 00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:05,570 but I wasn't familiar with him, 285 00:15:05,671 --> 00:15:07,505 like, being connected to the tarwackis at all. 286 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:11,009 Investigators question Keith 287 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:13,111 about whether he knew the tarwackis 288 00:15:13,212 --> 00:15:15,880 and his whereabouts that morning when they were killed. 289 00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:20,618 Keith lintz says he may have walked past the residence 290 00:15:20,719 --> 00:15:22,320 and may have waved at John tarwacki, 291 00:15:22,421 --> 00:15:24,989 but he says "no, he doesn't know 'em." 292 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:27,759 And Sherry lintz, she's able to confirm to US 293 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:31,496 that Keith was at the home at 8 A.M. 294 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,364 She said she woke up to go to work 295 00:15:33,465 --> 00:15:34,785 and Keith was asleep on the couch. 296 00:15:40,472 --> 00:15:42,273 She also is able to alibi him, 297 00:15:42,374 --> 00:15:44,108 saying that she actually took Keith the work 298 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:46,611 on the morning of the homicides. 299 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,281 Satisfied with the lintzes'' accounting of 300 00:15:50,382 --> 00:15:52,617 their whereabouts, police move on, 301 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,587 and it pays off almost right away. 302 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,917 Later on that morning, we found a neighbor 303 00:15:59,992 --> 00:16:01,159 who said, "yep, 304 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:03,928 "I was outside smoking a cigarette, starting my car up, 305 00:16:06,165 --> 00:16:08,866 and that's when I see a young man running down the alleyway." 306 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:11,302 She is exact, she is positive that that was, 307 00:16:11,403 --> 00:16:13,237 I believe, at 7:45 A.M. 308 00:16:14,506 --> 00:16:17,809 Those footprints were right by her house, maybe... 309 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:20,244 30 feet from... from her deck. 310 00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:22,647 She told US, she goes, "you never see anybody 311 00:16:22,748 --> 00:16:24,426 "going through there at this time of the morning. 312 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:26,027 Nobody ever sees there," and that's what caught 313 00:16:26,051 --> 00:16:27,418 her attention. 314 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:29,921 This new information is critical. 315 00:16:30,022 --> 00:16:32,190 Assuming the running man is the killer, 316 00:16:32,291 --> 00:16:35,626 investigators are now able to pinpoint when the tarwackis 317 00:16:35,728 --> 00:16:37,195 were murdered. 318 00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:39,530 So as best we can figure, it happened some time 319 00:16:39,631 --> 00:16:41,966 from the time when Carolyn's computer goes dormant 320 00:16:42,067 --> 00:16:44,369 to 7:45, so it's almost a... like 321 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:46,004 a 40-minute window that this murder 322 00:16:46,071 --> 00:16:48,306 could have occurred in. 323 00:16:48,407 --> 00:16:49,941 It's an unusual time of day 324 00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:52,176 for a double homicide to take place. 325 00:16:53,645 --> 00:16:55,847 It was very brazen... Nobody commits a homicide 326 00:16:55,948 --> 00:16:58,883 when everybody is getting ready to go to work. 327 00:16:58,984 --> 00:17:01,152 You're taking the chance of being seen. 328 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:07,959 There's too many eyes out, too many people are awake. 329 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:09,994 Most homicides are gonna involve 330 00:17:10,095 --> 00:17:11,129 the time of darkness 331 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:14,499 when not many people around or you cannot be seen. 332 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,467 The eyewitness didn't get a good look 333 00:17:16,568 --> 00:17:20,271 at the man's face, but she says he was tall. 334 00:17:20,372 --> 00:17:22,306 She said that she saw a white male, 335 00:17:23,409 --> 00:17:26,244 right around six feet tall, hard to pin down his age, 336 00:17:26,345 --> 00:17:29,013 between 20 and 30 years old, she thought, 337 00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:31,182 wearing a dark... 338 00:17:31,283 --> 00:17:32,950 Whether it was a jacket or a hoodie, 339 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,986 but he had a hood up, and he was running, 340 00:17:35,087 --> 00:17:36,487 um, 341 00:17:36,588 --> 00:17:39,457 past her house out towards the main road. 342 00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:41,526 The description immediately rings a bell 343 00:17:41,627 --> 00:17:43,361 for detective daly. 344 00:17:43,462 --> 00:17:45,530 It sounds like it could be kelan, 345 00:17:45,631 --> 00:17:48,199 Carolyn and John's teenage nephew, who has been 346 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,234 living with them 347 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:53,237 I was familiar with kelan, um, because his... 348 00:17:53,338 --> 00:17:54,572 His younger brother 349 00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:56,441 had been on the same t-ball team with my son. 350 00:17:57,509 --> 00:17:59,154 So at that point, fabian's like, "well, 351 00:17:59,178 --> 00:18:01,459 you can be the one to go talk to him at the school, then." 352 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:05,516 Kelan is the son of Carolyn's sister, Katie, 353 00:18:05,617 --> 00:18:07,018 and her husband, David. 354 00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:12,423 Kelan is kind of a combative individual. 355 00:18:12,524 --> 00:18:14,644 One of the reasons he was living with John and Carolyn 356 00:18:14,726 --> 00:18:15,966 was because he didn't get along 357 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,829 with David, and that they had fought 358 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:19,430 quite a bit. 359 00:18:19,531 --> 00:18:21,833 The fights consisted of a lot of yelling and screaming, 360 00:18:23,001 --> 00:18:25,570 so I'm just thinking, you know, 361 00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:27,538 what do I do if he freaks out, what I do 362 00:18:27,639 --> 00:18:29,519 if he's actually the suspect and he knows, like, 363 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,709 immediately why I'm there? 364 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,613 We know that kelan lives at the house. 365 00:18:35,714 --> 00:18:37,849 He automatically becomes our first suspect, 366 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:40,151 because he was probably the last people 367 00:18:40,252 --> 00:18:42,120 that saw John and Carolyn alive. 368 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:46,424 So I had asked Kristen daly to conduct the interview, 369 00:18:46,525 --> 00:18:48,593 because I wanted that female perspective 370 00:18:48,694 --> 00:18:51,529 to talk to him, probably get more information. 371 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,732 We have to determine as quickly as possible, 372 00:18:54,833 --> 00:18:57,301 is he involved? Did he commit the crime? 373 00:18:57,402 --> 00:18:59,203 Does he know who committed the crime? 374 00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:04,419 When I got to the school, 375 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:06,083 and they brought him out of his classroom, 376 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,645 um, he looked confused. 377 00:19:07,746 --> 00:19:09,257 He knew who I was, but he couldn't really 378 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,481 figure out why I was there. 379 00:19:11,917 --> 00:19:14,719 Kelan's sitting there, and he's looking at US. 380 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,622 I could just see the conflicting play of emotion on his face. 381 00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:22,960 And then fabian tells him exactly why we were there. 382 00:19:25,531 --> 00:19:26,797 He said, 383 00:19:26,899 --> 00:19:29,200 "John and Carolyn, um, 384 00:19:29,301 --> 00:19:32,436 are dead, and we need to talk to you." 385 00:19:34,706 --> 00:19:37,175 And kelan completely melted down. 386 00:19:37,276 --> 00:19:39,610 He just completely had a breakdown right there. 387 00:19:41,747 --> 00:19:43,558 I said, "I need you to go through your morning. 388 00:19:43,582 --> 00:19:45,449 "I need to tell me exactly what you did. 389 00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,084 "You need to tell me exactly, as best 390 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,986 you can remember, what time things happened." 391 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:52,957 He told me that his aunt Carolyn woke 392 00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:55,092 him up in the morning, shortly after six. 393 00:19:56,962 --> 00:19:59,497 He leaves the house about 6:30 in the morning, 394 00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:01,933 and his grandmother lives two doors down 395 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:03,968 from John and Carolyn. 396 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:08,039 So at 6:35, he goes to his grandmother's, 397 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,609 talks to her really quick, he grabs some pop 398 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,145 and some beef jerky, he's there for maybe 399 00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:16,113 not even 10 minutes, if that long, 400 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,983 because he catches the bus, then, at 6:45. 401 00:20:20,752 --> 00:20:22,954 Detective daly checks kelan's alibi 402 00:20:23,088 --> 00:20:24,388 with his grandmother, Sharon. 403 00:20:27,025 --> 00:20:29,227 Sharon says she gets off the phone with Carolyn 404 00:20:29,328 --> 00:20:31,529 at 6:22, kelan shows up 405 00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:35,466 within 5, 10 minutes of that phone conversation to 406 00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,935 Sharon's home... kelan is calm. 407 00:20:38,036 --> 00:20:41,005 He is clean, so he wouldn't have had time to commit 408 00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:42,106 those murders, 409 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:43,874 and he would have been a mess, physically. 410 00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:46,877 We follow up with the school 411 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:49,914 with the times of buses there, cameras in the school. 412 00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:51,582 We know he walked into the school. 413 00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:53,918 We talked to the teachers, we know he walked into 414 00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:55,553 the classroom. 415 00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:58,522 He had a backpack, and there was an empty pop bottle, 416 00:20:58,624 --> 00:21:00,458 like, in the outside of his backpack and also 417 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:01,826 a bag of jerky, 418 00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:03,828 so that corroborated his story. 419 00:21:06,531 --> 00:21:08,966 Also, there was not a good motive for kelan. 420 00:21:10,402 --> 00:21:13,137 He was in a really good place. 421 00:21:13,238 --> 00:21:14,672 John and Carolyn lost their lives, 422 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:16,540 but kelan lost his future. 423 00:21:18,076 --> 00:21:20,177 With kelan's whereabouts verified 424 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:25,116 from 6:22 A.M. to 3:30 P.M., detectives conclude 425 00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:27,018 he couldn't have killed the tarwackis. 426 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:32,123 According to kelan, he hated living with his mother 427 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:34,925 and stepfather and wanted to stay with Carolyn 428 00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:36,827 and John permanently. 429 00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:39,063 Once kelan moved out of the home, 430 00:21:39,164 --> 00:21:41,232 his grades picked up, and he really liked it. 431 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,001 Obviously, there was no domestic problems. 432 00:21:44,102 --> 00:21:46,147 There was no fighting, anything like that in the house. 433 00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:47,471 He really liked living there. 434 00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:52,610 Detectives then discover that the tarwackis 435 00:21:52,711 --> 00:21:54,512 had filed for legal guardianship, 436 00:21:54,613 --> 00:21:56,380 so kelan wouldn't have to return 437 00:21:56,481 --> 00:21:57,548 to his parents' home. 438 00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:02,219 In fact, the attorney had served the papers 439 00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,055 to kelan's mother, Katie, 440 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,824 just two days before the murders took place. 441 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,995 I knew Katie, so I... I was already familiar 442 00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:12,196 with her temperament. 443 00:22:12,297 --> 00:22:14,231 She, um, doesn't care 444 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,743 what you think about her, and she will 445 00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:17,368 tell you exactly what's on her mind. 446 00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:21,706 She can come across as very aggressive, very combative. 447 00:22:23,041 --> 00:22:26,177 And Katie did not want Carolyn to have guardianship, 448 00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:27,878 and she was angry, 449 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:30,848 and knowing Katie's personality and knowing that 450 00:22:30,949 --> 00:22:32,216 she could be pretty aggressive, 451 00:22:32,317 --> 00:22:35,353 and just seeing the level of violence visited on Carolyn, 452 00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:37,688 your mind goes to that first person who's angry. 453 00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:42,526 And that circled back to Katie. 454 00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:57,575 The investigation into the brutal double homicide 455 00:22:57,676 --> 00:22:59,343 of Carolyn and John tarwacki 456 00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:02,646 is zeroing in on Carolyn's sister, Katie. 457 00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:06,117 When we interview Katie, basically what she tells US, 458 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,420 growing up, Carolyn was treated better than she was. 459 00:23:09,521 --> 00:23:12,323 They were sisters, but there was no sisterly love. 460 00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,126 Katie despised Carolyn. 461 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,896 She tells US, "hey, I didn't kill my sister, 462 00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:20,131 but I'm not gonna miss her." 463 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:22,900 She told me, 464 00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:25,236 "I've always believed that Carolyn was trying to take 465 00:23:25,337 --> 00:23:27,705 my son because she didn't have kids of her own." 466 00:23:27,806 --> 00:23:29,440 And she really believed this. 467 00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:31,575 So obviously, this raises a flag. 468 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,800 It almost seemed like she didn't care. 469 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:38,516 A normal person, 470 00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:41,085 you tell them that their brother or sister has died, 471 00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,621 it doesn't matter if they fought 20 minutes ago, 472 00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:44,755 they're devastated. 473 00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:46,816 This is their sibling. This is somebody they love. 474 00:23:47,859 --> 00:23:49,693 And she didn't act like your normal... 475 00:23:51,062 --> 00:23:53,931 Sibling to a victim of a horrendous crime. 476 00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:55,099 She was a little detached. 477 00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,938 When people don't react as expected 478 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,040 in a police interview, it immediately throws up 479 00:24:03,141 --> 00:24:05,443 a red flag... Why are they acting this way? 480 00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:07,878 Are they potentially involved in this crime? 481 00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:11,315 Um, do they dislike, you know, 482 00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:14,318 a person enough to commit an act of violence? 483 00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,122 And in this case, you're wondering, you know, 484 00:24:18,256 --> 00:24:21,225 could this sister have engaged in something violent 485 00:24:21,326 --> 00:24:23,594 towards this couple? 486 00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:27,898 But some things just don't add up with this theory. 487 00:24:27,999 --> 00:24:30,935 The eyewitness said she saw a man between 20 488 00:24:31,036 --> 00:24:33,504 and 30 years old fleeing the scene, 489 00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:35,239 not a 43-year-old woman, 490 00:24:36,508 --> 00:24:39,910 and she said this happened at 7:45 A.M. 491 00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:44,482 Katie actually lived pretty much next door to me. 492 00:24:44,583 --> 00:24:47,451 She is a bus driver for this same school district, 493 00:24:47,552 --> 00:24:51,422 and she drove the bus past my house every morning. 494 00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:55,226 So we were able to confirm with the bus garage that yes, 495 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:56,327 Katie showed up to work, 496 00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:58,529 she came on time, and she was driving her bus, 497 00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:00,965 and there just wasn't time during a bus route for 498 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:02,946 her to stop of the house and commit this murder. 499 00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:06,504 Detectives consider a different theory. 500 00:25:07,706 --> 00:25:10,474 I know that she didn't commit this... the homicide, 501 00:25:10,575 --> 00:25:13,177 but maybe the husband decided to do it. 502 00:25:16,047 --> 00:25:17,681 Through police reports, 503 00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:21,018 we know that David drank, we believe he had 504 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,119 a drinking problem. 505 00:25:24,923 --> 00:25:27,291 We know that there's a lot of, you know, 506 00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:29,593 domestic violence in that home. 507 00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:30,861 There was a lot of hate. 508 00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:33,197 There was a lot of discontent within that family circle. 509 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,934 So if you want to keep your wife happy, 510 00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,003 you want to keep your family happy, 511 00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,904 you're gonna want to do something to help her. 512 00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:48,012 David was quiet to Katie's, you know, more bombastic, 513 00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:51,649 volatile personality, but we had... 514 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:54,084 Nobody had any doubt that if she'd asked him to do this, 515 00:25:54,185 --> 00:25:55,625 that he would have done that for her. 516 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,423 With David now in their cross hairs, 517 00:25:59,524 --> 00:26:02,359 detectives put the timeline to the test to determine 518 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:04,962 where he was when the tarwackis were killed. 519 00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:09,166 I believe, from the timeline we built up, 520 00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:11,268 we know that the morning of the homicides, 521 00:26:11,369 --> 00:26:14,705 David had to take the kids to the babysitters. 522 00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:17,775 He says he was there at 7:30 A.M. 523 00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,710 Dropping the kids off. 524 00:26:19,811 --> 00:26:21,178 We go to the babysitter, 525 00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:23,981 and we were able to substantiate his whereabouts. 526 00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:27,451 He works in south bend, 527 00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:32,323 so it takes him almost 20 minutes to get to work. 528 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,525 He started work at 8 A.M. 529 00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:36,260 We follow up on his work. 530 00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:39,296 We know that at that work, they actually have palm scanners 531 00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:41,165 to get into the building. 532 00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,534 We know that he put his palm there, that he scanned 533 00:26:43,635 --> 00:26:45,536 his palm, and we know that he was at work, 534 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,290 So there was no way that he would 535 00:26:53,378 --> 00:26:55,058 have been the killer, that he was involved. 536 00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,850 Having eliminated all three of the people 537 00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:02,753 closest to the tarwackis from the suspect pool, 538 00:27:02,854 --> 00:27:04,054 detectives are stumped. 539 00:27:05,824 --> 00:27:08,492 There are so many things about this case that... 540 00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,960 That didn't flow 541 00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:12,029 from a normal investigative standpoint. 542 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,498 We were still really focused, at their point, on 543 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:15,966 this is somebody that they knew, 544 00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:18,402 somebody that was angry with them, 545 00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,305 and we had talked to everybody that we knew that 546 00:27:21,406 --> 00:27:25,042 knew John and Carolyn, um, we talked to John's, 547 00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:26,243 you know, ex-wives. 548 00:27:26,344 --> 00:27:29,847 We dug deep into his past trying to find a motive, 549 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:31,228 and just nothing was panning out. 550 00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,450 Everything was coming up a dead end. 551 00:27:33,551 --> 00:27:35,619 Investigators are forced to consider 552 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,154 whether the murders may have been 553 00:27:37,255 --> 00:27:40,224 more random than they first appeared. 554 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,159 People were terrified. 555 00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:44,528 People need a reason that bad things happen. 556 00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:47,464 When there's no reason that something bad has happened, 557 00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:49,867 then everybody thinks... 558 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:51,802 Then that can be me, 559 00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:53,437 and that freaks people out, obviously. 560 00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:55,673 We all like to believe that if we just do 561 00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:57,051 the right thing at the right time, 562 00:27:57,075 --> 00:27:57,975 then we're all safe. 563 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:00,344 But that's not clearly how the world works. 564 00:28:03,214 --> 00:28:04,525 That was the first time that I ever 565 00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:06,550 had trouble sleeping after a case. 566 00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:11,255 It was awful. 567 00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:13,691 It was awful, because it was unsolved, 568 00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:15,559 and... 569 00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,996 Just no... no idea at that point. 570 00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,474 And the other thing that haunts you is 571 00:28:20,498 --> 00:28:22,199 did you miss something? 572 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,401 As it turns out, they did. 573 00:28:26,271 --> 00:28:29,339 I received a call from the mother, Sharon mcknight, 574 00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:32,109 who was cleaning out the house to sell. 575 00:28:32,243 --> 00:28:34,244 She is cleaning out the refrigerator, 576 00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:36,680 thawing out the freezer, and as she's removing items, 577 00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:39,783 she says she found... She found a bloody knife. 578 00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:44,755 I was actually here at work... I immediately respond to 579 00:28:44,856 --> 00:28:47,324 the location along with one of my troopers. 580 00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:49,727 Sure enough, there's a bloody knife in the freezer. 581 00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:04,708 Investigators have just discovered that they missed 582 00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:06,009 a key piece of evidence 583 00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:08,645 while processing the murder scene of Carolyn 584 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,315 and John tarwacki... A bloody knife. 585 00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:16,253 The sickness feeling that goes over use like, "wow, 586 00:29:16,354 --> 00:29:17,521 how did we miss it?" 587 00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,390 We missed it... I mean, I'm the lead investigator. 588 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:23,794 I have to take responsibility for everything that goes wrong. 589 00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:26,096 So, yeah, it's my responsibly 590 00:29:26,197 --> 00:29:27,308 to make sure everything was done. 591 00:29:27,332 --> 00:29:28,599 It wasn't done properly. 592 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,969 The knife is processed, DNA shows that 593 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:35,272 it is Carolyn and it is John's blood on the knife, 594 00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:37,141 but unfortunately, there is no third party. 595 00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:39,810 We were hoping maybe to find DNA from our suspect 596 00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:41,779 that could be identified, but there was not. 597 00:29:43,014 --> 00:29:45,082 Having hit yet another roadblock, 598 00:29:45,183 --> 00:29:46,416 the case goes cold. 599 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,254 Then, 2.5 years later, detective Suarez receives 600 00:29:50,355 --> 00:29:54,124 a call that breathes new life into the investigation. 601 00:29:54,225 --> 00:29:57,594 Patricia wilds was a local young lady. 602 00:29:57,695 --> 00:30:00,998 She had a run-in with a local police officer. 603 00:30:01,099 --> 00:30:02,859 She was stopped, she was arrested, I believe, 604 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:04,635 for driving with a license suspended. 605 00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,504 When they brought her in and they booked her, 606 00:30:07,605 --> 00:30:08,839 she told 'em, 607 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,508 "I'd like to talk to the detective who's in charge of 608 00:30:11,609 --> 00:30:13,443 "the tarwacki homicide, because I think 609 00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,245 I have information as to who killed them." 610 00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:20,350 This officer obviously calls me right away home. 611 00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:22,196 I believe it was three in the morning or something 612 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:24,621 like that, so I obviously come to work right away. 613 00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:29,226 I start interviewing Patricia wilds, and she 614 00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:31,161 brings up the name of Keith lintz... 615 00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:33,897 Keith lintz, who we had talked to initially 616 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:35,532 but was not on the radar. 617 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:41,839 26-year-old Keith lintz with someone 618 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,509 they interviewed on the very first day of the investigation. 619 00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:46,910 His mother, Sherry, told them 620 00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:49,680 Keith was at home with her at the time of the murder, 621 00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:52,449 and back then, they had no reason to doubt her. 622 00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:56,687 Patricia tells US that she was living with Keith lintz's 623 00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,656 brother or half-brother, and on the night 624 00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:02,059 of the homicides, he came to the trailer, 625 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,961 and she said Keith was... 626 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:06,663 Just bouncing all over the place. 627 00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,703 He kept looking out the window, and she... she asked him, 628 00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:13,670 "what are you doing?" She said. 629 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,305 "The cops are after." 630 00:31:15,406 --> 00:31:17,274 "Why are the cops after you?" 631 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:18,853 And he said, "because I left my effin' 632 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,445 footprints in the yard, and they're gonna find me." 633 00:31:23,781 --> 00:31:25,916 Patricia tells them that Keith was heavily 634 00:31:26,017 --> 00:31:27,317 into crystal meth, 635 00:31:27,418 --> 00:31:29,653 and that night, she was afraid of him. 636 00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:33,467 One of Patricia wilds' big, alarming concerns 637 00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:34,835 was just the way Keith was acting, you know, 638 00:31:34,859 --> 00:31:37,527 it was... he was acting berserk, and she said he had a gun 639 00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:39,129 in one hand, was waving it around, 640 00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:40,864 but she also observed him with a couple 641 00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:42,332 other weapons in his belt line. 642 00:31:43,501 --> 00:31:46,336 That started the ball rolling with Keith lintz, 643 00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:49,539 and we really started to dig in on him as our main suspect. 644 00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:53,110 To confirm Patricia's story, 645 00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:56,680 detective Suarez tracks down the mother of Keith's child. 646 00:31:56,781 --> 00:31:57,915 She's in bad shape. 647 00:31:59,217 --> 00:32:01,551 It turns out that within a month or so, 648 00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:02,819 I believe, of the homicides, 649 00:32:02,954 --> 00:32:06,056 Keith had choked her, beat her, choked her, 650 00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:08,592 and we were able to confirm this through south bend police 651 00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:11,161 department records that he... 652 00:32:11,262 --> 00:32:14,097 We obviously now know, he's got the propensity for violence. 653 00:32:17,201 --> 00:32:20,137 Now that we really got our teeth sunk in to Keith lintz, 654 00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:22,506 we start looking for his inner circle. 655 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:24,141 We start getting more calls. 656 00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:29,846 The next big break really comes from another 657 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:30,948 ex-girlfriend. 658 00:32:31,015 --> 00:32:34,051 She had a birthday party for one of her sons, 659 00:32:34,152 --> 00:32:35,652 and the mother told her, 660 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,387 why do you have Keith lintz here? 661 00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:40,057 He killed the tarwackis. Get him out of my home. 662 00:32:40,158 --> 00:32:43,226 I don't want him in my house, so that started a fight, 663 00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:47,030 she said she asked him, 664 00:32:47,131 --> 00:32:50,600 "why do people think you killed the tarwackis?" 665 00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:51,702 And he told her, 666 00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:53,570 "well, because they found my footprints there, 667 00:32:53,671 --> 00:32:54,915 "but I was just taking a shortcut 668 00:32:54,939 --> 00:32:56,340 to my grandparents' house." 669 00:32:59,410 --> 00:33:00,711 It seemed to believable. 670 00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:02,990 If you're gonna make a story up, 671 00:33:03,014 --> 00:33:04,425 why do you make the footprints in the snow up? 672 00:33:04,449 --> 00:33:06,416 Because we never had released that, 673 00:33:06,517 --> 00:33:09,386 and people didn't know we had that as evidence. 674 00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:12,155 Detectives now strongly believe Keith murdered 675 00:33:12,256 --> 00:33:15,959 Carolyn and John tarwacki, but they need proof. 676 00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:20,130 They go back to Sherry lintz, hoping to break his alibi. 677 00:33:20,231 --> 00:33:23,800 She reiterates the Keith was sleeping on the couch at 8 A.M. 678 00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:26,403 And that she drove him to work at nine. 679 00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:28,338 So now we're... We're working on it. 680 00:33:28,439 --> 00:33:30,774 We have to confirm his timeline, 681 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:33,377 and at that time, he was working at Walmart 682 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,146 in mishawaka, Indiana. 683 00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:38,115 We were able to determine through work records 684 00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:39,116 that was not true. 685 00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:41,284 He never did show up for work. 686 00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,686 He didn't call in sick. 687 00:33:42,787 --> 00:33:46,490 He didn't call in at all, so we know that he's not there. 688 00:33:46,591 --> 00:33:48,125 We believe mom's lying. 689 00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:51,528 If only detectives had checked Keith's alibi 690 00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:54,464 back on day one of the investigation, 691 00:33:54,565 --> 00:33:56,967 they would have realized that he had both the means 692 00:33:57,068 --> 00:34:00,003 and the opportunity to kill the tarwackis. 693 00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:03,473 It's not uncommon to see in a lot 694 00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:06,209 of cases go cold... In this case, three years, 695 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:07,888 it doesn't matter if it's three months, three years, 696 00:34:07,912 --> 00:34:08,812 30 years... 697 00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:11,048 I'll often tell investigators, the name of 698 00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:13,683 the offender is probably already in the file. 699 00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:16,353 He's probably already even been interviewed 700 00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:20,223 and falsely or wrongly screened out or excluded. 701 00:34:20,324 --> 00:34:22,559 And I say always go back to what you did first 702 00:34:22,660 --> 00:34:24,127 and re-examine it with fresh eyes, 703 00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:25,796 and we see in this case, sure enough, 704 00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:28,165 he's spoken to in the canvass and not asked 705 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:29,666 the right questions and ruled out. 706 00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:35,172 Obviously, Keith is on the radar now. 707 00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:38,675 We tried looking for his whereabouts. 708 00:34:38,776 --> 00:34:41,611 We find out that Keith has fled to Nashville, Tennessee. 709 00:34:43,147 --> 00:34:45,315 The next day, I had to go to the doctor. 710 00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,752 My blood pressure was 200 over 195. 711 00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:52,322 We have to track him down. 712 00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:56,326 If Keith did this, he needs to pay for it. 713 00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:11,374 Investigators believe Keith lintz 714 00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,844 killed Carolyn and John tarwacki. 715 00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:18,849 After an exhaustive search, they finally track him down 716 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,283 in a Nashville jail, 717 00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:22,719 imprisoned on some minor traffic charges. 718 00:35:24,355 --> 00:35:26,356 So Keith and I have history. 719 00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:28,625 He doesn't like me. I don't like him. 720 00:35:28,726 --> 00:35:30,437 There comes a point in time where you really 721 00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:32,181 have to suck up your ego as an investigator. 722 00:35:32,263 --> 00:35:33,830 As much as I want to go interview Keith, 723 00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:37,100 I know that if I go, he's not gonna say a thing. 724 00:35:38,236 --> 00:35:40,871 So I sent a couple other detectives to talk to him. 725 00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:46,376 They do lengthy interviews with him. 726 00:35:46,477 --> 00:35:48,778 He denies, denies, denies being involved, 727 00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:54,484 but he also thinks that he can beat a polygraph, 728 00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:57,420 and he... he volunteers to take polygraphs. 729 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,091 He failed both tests miserably. 730 00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:07,164 So we know that Keith is our main suspect, 731 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:09,699 but we don't have that final nail in the coffin. 732 00:36:11,102 --> 00:36:13,136 But then they get a phone call from 733 00:36:13,237 --> 00:36:15,705 a man by the name of Shane Zimmerman. 734 00:36:15,806 --> 00:36:19,075 He says he's got information about the homicide. 735 00:36:20,978 --> 00:36:22,879 Shane Zimmerman is hitting the lotto, 736 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,682 hitting all seven numbers in the powerball. 737 00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:27,684 It's just something that you don't expect 738 00:36:27,785 --> 00:36:29,152 out of the blue to come, 739 00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:31,788 even though we are on the right trail. 740 00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:33,690 Shane Zimmerman describes himself 741 00:36:33,791 --> 00:36:34,891 as a childhood friend 742 00:36:34,992 --> 00:36:37,294 of the prime suspect, Keith lintz, 743 00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:40,030 who just happens to be sharing a cell with him 744 00:36:40,131 --> 00:36:42,065 at this very moment. 745 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,167 Shane says, "Keith told me he did it. 746 00:36:44,268 --> 00:36:46,269 "He can't take it back, but he says he did it. 747 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:49,206 He was crying... one night, he was in his bunk, crying." 748 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,176 And Shane says, "what's wrong?" 749 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,223 He says, "I killed them. I killed those people." 750 00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:57,491 He goes, "they didn't deserve to die, 751 00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:59,749 but I can't take it back." 752 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:01,952 In order to secure a conviction, 753 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:05,689 investigators need Keith's confession on tape. 754 00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:07,624 Shane Zimmerman didn't want anything. 755 00:37:09,994 --> 00:37:12,629 He said, "I've screwed up my entire life." 756 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,598 He goes, "for once in my life, I'm going to do 757 00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:15,832 something right." 758 00:37:17,802 --> 00:37:19,603 Shane agrees to wear a wire 759 00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:21,404 and heads back into the cell. 760 00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:24,874 But we tell them, "don't ask questions. 761 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:27,077 "You don't interrogate. You don't interview. 762 00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:28,511 "You just act as a listening post. 763 00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:30,480 "If he wants to talk about it, you talk, 764 00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:31,982 you listen." 765 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,250 On their end, 766 00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:36,052 police push Keith in a series of interviews, 767 00:37:36,153 --> 00:37:39,489 keeping the murders at the top of his mind. 768 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,635 They said, "hey, Keith, we know sometimes you can go into 769 00:37:41,659 --> 00:37:45,929 "drug-induced hysteria, and this is what happened 770 00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:47,030 in this case, isn't it?" 771 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,932 And, you know, obviously, he denied it there, 772 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,911 but when he went back into the cell and was talking 773 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,969 to... to Shane, Shane... 774 00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:54,715 He told Shane, he goes, "man, they had it... 775 00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:56,840 They had it right on. That's what happened." 776 00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:01,511 Finally, Keith breaks down and spills 777 00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:03,647 the whole story of the murders to Shane. 778 00:38:05,916 --> 00:38:08,351 Zimmerman was a hammer that we hammered that nail home, 779 00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:11,921 so it was an incredible stroke of luck. 780 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:13,433 With their informant's help, 781 00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:16,059 investigators are able to piece together 782 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,796 John and Carolyn's final 24 hours. 783 00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:23,133 We find out that Keith and his brother, Brian, 784 00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:24,567 are drinking all night long. 785 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,737 They're doing drugs the entire night. 786 00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,107 That morning of the murders, 787 00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:33,243 Keith gets in a fight with the mother, 788 00:38:33,344 --> 00:38:36,780 because he wants more money to go buy drugs. 789 00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,548 This is very early in the morning 790 00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:40,884 prior to the homicides. 791 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:45,255 We believe that after the mother would not give Keith money, 792 00:38:45,356 --> 00:38:47,190 he probably planned on doing a home invasion. 793 00:38:51,762 --> 00:38:54,431 John is finishing getting ready for work. 794 00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,032 He is shaving. 795 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,905 Carolyn's on her computer at 7:03. 796 00:39:03,407 --> 00:39:08,278 And sometime between there and 7:45, Keith lintz is 797 00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:13,183 walking down the road and walks down that back alley. 798 00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:15,452 He may have seen this house that looked like 799 00:39:15,553 --> 00:39:16,619 an easy target, 800 00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:18,888 and knowing the area, he walks around to the back. 801 00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:21,958 He then goes in the house. 802 00:39:24,662 --> 00:39:25,962 Keith used to have pit bulls, 803 00:39:26,063 --> 00:39:27,423 so this guy was not scared of dogs. 804 00:39:30,568 --> 00:39:31,968 He lets wrigley the dog into 805 00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:33,903 the back room and closes the door behind him. 806 00:39:37,641 --> 00:39:39,609 I don't think he was expecting 807 00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:41,478 for John and Carolyn to be home. 808 00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,382 Especially if the dog was, like, in the back, 809 00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:47,417 maybe he thought, "these people are gone. 810 00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:48,598 Maybe there's nobody home." 811 00:39:51,288 --> 00:39:52,789 I believe that she saw Keith 812 00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,724 coming in through the back door. 813 00:39:54,825 --> 00:39:56,259 Keith already had his gun out. 814 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,463 He may have been doing, obviously, 815 00:40:00,564 --> 00:40:03,600 meth and maybe some coke or crack. 816 00:40:03,701 --> 00:40:05,335 I believe that she screams. 817 00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:08,638 John comes out of the bathroom, encounters Keith. 818 00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:11,718 He was just out of his mind. 819 00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:13,053 I don't... I don't think that he went 820 00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:15,111 in there with the intent to murder anyone. 821 00:40:15,212 --> 00:40:17,647 I think he went in there with the intent to Rob, 822 00:40:21,652 --> 00:40:24,354 and all of sudden he'd just been confronted by two people. 823 00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:27,223 It's a fight or flight, and he decided to kill them both. 824 00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:45,108 I think my biggest takeaway from this case 825 00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:49,913 was not to prejudge what you may see at a scene. 826 00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:57,153 This case would suggest that maybe there was emotion here 827 00:40:57,254 --> 00:40:58,688 that had evolved to 828 00:40:58,789 --> 00:41:00,757 a certain level where people got angry 829 00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:02,325 and perpetrated violence, 830 00:41:02,426 --> 00:41:05,528 and really, what it says to me, is... is sometimes, you know, 831 00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:08,364 by sheer happenstance or... or drug use, 832 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:11,000 it can culminate in explosive violence in a way that seems 833 00:41:11,101 --> 00:41:12,702 personal when really, it's just 834 00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:16,139 disorganized, frantic, unexplainable behavior. 835 00:41:20,077 --> 00:41:21,778 Keith lintz is charged with 836 00:41:21,879 --> 00:41:24,113 two counts of first degree murder. 837 00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,015 He's convicted and sentenced to life 838 00:41:26,116 --> 00:41:27,951 without the possibility of parole. 839 00:41:31,021 --> 00:41:33,156 The timeline was incredibly important, because you had 840 00:41:33,257 --> 00:41:35,058 this 35-, 40-minute window 841 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,061 where this crime occurred, and putting together 842 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:39,362 this timeline 843 00:41:39,463 --> 00:41:42,565 made it absolutely clear, when we caught the guy, who it was. 844 00:41:50,207 --> 00:41:53,376 As the father, John tarwacki, said, there is no closure, 845 00:41:53,477 --> 00:41:56,012 and I also believe there is no closure. 846 00:41:56,113 --> 00:41:57,580 You may get a conviction, 847 00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:59,201 but it's not gonna bring your kid back, 848 00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:01,484 not gonna... It's not gonna change anything. 849 00:42:01,585 --> 00:42:03,785 Every time Christmas comes around, every time a birthday 850 00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:05,522 comes around, they're not gonna be there. 851 00:42:08,425 --> 00:42:09,903 But what sticks with me most about 852 00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:11,895 this case is just how senseless it was. 853 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:15,765 These were two normal people getting ready for work, 854 00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:19,636 and somebody made up their mind that they wanted something 855 00:42:19,737 --> 00:42:21,381 and was gonna do whatever they could to get it. 856 00:42:21,405 --> 00:42:23,606 It just... it's senseless. It made no sense. 857 00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:26,643 And it still doesn't, even after all this time. 858 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:28,264 I don't know how you recover from that. 68008

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