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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,293 --> 00:00:03,043 Narrator: Tonight on the curse of oak island... 2 00:00:03,129 --> 00:00:04,461 -charles: Here they come. 3 00:00:04,547 --> 00:00:06,547 -Terry: Seems like old times. -Yup. 4 00:00:06,632 --> 00:00:09,133 -Rick: What do you make of that? -We're back to the possibility 5 00:00:09,218 --> 00:00:10,759 that the treasure hunt's been going on a lot longer 6 00:00:10,845 --> 00:00:12,344 than we ever imagined. 7 00:00:12,430 --> 00:00:14,346 We will find something. I'm positive. 8 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:15,681 A lot faster than I thought. 9 00:00:15,766 --> 00:00:17,850 The anchors is actually a bit of a clue. 10 00:00:17,893 --> 00:00:19,184 -Marty: Wow. -Doug: It's almost like 11 00:00:19,270 --> 00:00:21,437 there is a master plan to these features. 12 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:23,188 -Take a look at that. -Gary: So you're seeing markings 13 00:00:23,274 --> 00:00:25,024 -on the rock? -Marty: Well, there's something 14 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:28,318 going on here. That's the anchor stone. I can buy that. 15 00:00:30,614 --> 00:00:34,199 Narrator: There is an island in the north atlantic 16 00:00:34,243 --> 00:00:37,786 where people have been looking for an incredible treasure 17 00:00:37,872 --> 00:00:40,205 for more than 200 years. 18 00:00:40,291 --> 00:00:44,043 So far, they have found a stone slab 19 00:00:44,128 --> 00:00:46,837 with strange symbols carved into it, 20 00:00:46,922 --> 00:00:49,673 mysterious fragments of human bone, 21 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:53,385 and a lead cross whose origin may stretch back 22 00:00:53,429 --> 00:00:55,888 to the days of the knights templar. 23 00:00:55,973 --> 00:01:00,392 To date, six men have died trying to solve the mystery. 24 00:01:01,437 --> 00:01:03,520 And, according to legend, 25 00:01:03,606 --> 00:01:06,565 one more will have to die 26 00:01:06,650 --> 00:01:10,360 before the treasure can be found. 27 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,588 -here they come. -Terry: Seems like old times. 28 00:01:29,673 --> 00:01:31,298 Charles: Yup. 29 00:01:31,383 --> 00:01:32,925 Narrator: As the start of a new day 30 00:01:32,968 --> 00:01:35,427 dawns on oak island... 31 00:01:35,471 --> 00:01:36,720 Hey, rick, how you doing? 32 00:01:36,764 --> 00:01:38,722 -Charles: Hey, rick! -Hey. 33 00:01:38,808 --> 00:01:41,058 Narrator: ...Brothers rick and marty lagina and their partners 34 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:43,393 are commencing a strategic drilling program 35 00:01:43,479 --> 00:01:45,896 at the location where the treasure mystery began 36 00:01:45,981 --> 00:01:50,400 225 years ago-- the money pit. 37 00:01:50,444 --> 00:01:53,112 So, our first point of the season is going to be f6. 38 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:55,030 Let's go down. It should be right over there. 39 00:01:55,116 --> 00:01:56,323 -Let's do it. -All right. 40 00:01:56,408 --> 00:01:58,242 Narrator: Due to restrictions related 41 00:01:58,327 --> 00:02:00,285 to the covid-19 pandemic, 42 00:02:00,371 --> 00:02:03,413 rick, marty and the oak island team 43 00:02:03,499 --> 00:02:06,083 will be unable to perform the large-scale digging operation 44 00:02:06,168 --> 00:02:10,504 they hoped to conduct this year with irving equipment limited. 45 00:02:10,589 --> 00:02:14,675 Instead, they are spending their time and resources 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,427 on a core-drilling program with representatives 47 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:19,388 from choice sonic drilling. 48 00:02:19,473 --> 00:02:22,808 This will entail drilling a number of boreholes 49 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:25,686 along a strategic grid in the hopes 50 00:02:25,771 --> 00:02:27,980 of locating the original treasure shaft 51 00:02:28,023 --> 00:02:31,150 first discovered in 1795, 52 00:02:31,193 --> 00:02:35,654 and the fabled vault believed to be contained within it. 53 00:02:35,739 --> 00:02:37,489 There it is, scott. 54 00:02:37,575 --> 00:02:38,991 -F6. -F6. 55 00:02:39,076 --> 00:02:40,284 This is going to be our hole. 56 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:42,119 Our first hole of the year. 57 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:47,124 Of course, the goal is to have a tightly spaced pattern 58 00:02:47,209 --> 00:02:48,709 of drill holes that help us map 59 00:02:48,794 --> 00:02:50,961 -the money pit. -Right. 60 00:02:51,046 --> 00:02:52,462 Kind of looking for the deeper points in that perhaps. 61 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:54,131 And that's maybe a place 62 00:02:54,216 --> 00:02:57,342 where, with all the vibration and movement, some... 63 00:02:57,386 --> 00:02:59,178 Or all of the treasure has migrated. 64 00:03:01,182 --> 00:03:04,850 Marty: Come on, baby. Make hole! 65 00:03:04,894 --> 00:03:06,977 Narrator: Over the past four years, 66 00:03:07,062 --> 00:03:11,190 rick, marty and the team have drilled a number of boreholes 67 00:03:11,275 --> 00:03:14,610 and installed massive steel shafts in an attempt to locate 68 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:16,486 the fabled chappell vault-- 69 00:03:16,572 --> 00:03:20,824 a seven-foot-tall wooden box first discovered 70 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:23,660 by treasure hunters william chappell and frederick blair 71 00:03:23,746 --> 00:03:26,205 in 1897-- 72 00:03:26,248 --> 00:03:31,126 that was thought to contain both gold and ancient manuscripts. 73 00:03:31,212 --> 00:03:34,504 They believe that one of these shafts, 74 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:37,674 dug three years ago, known as "h8," 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,259 may have encountered the vault 76 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:41,470 because of the incredible discoveries 77 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:45,182 they made at a depth of some 170 feet. 78 00:03:45,267 --> 00:03:49,519 These included pieces of parchment, leather bookbinding 79 00:03:49,605 --> 00:03:53,232 and even 17th century human bones. 80 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:55,525 But unfortunately, as they dug deeper 81 00:03:55,611 --> 00:03:58,028 in an attempt to penetrate it, 82 00:03:58,113 --> 00:04:00,864 the team believes the vault may have been pushed further down 83 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:06,036 and off to the side into a flooded void or chamber. 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,290 Rick: We have been chasing the very elusive treasure vault 85 00:04:10,376 --> 00:04:12,584 for years now, and... 86 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:16,380 We have all come to a belief, more or less, 87 00:04:16,465 --> 00:04:18,423 that it certainly has fallen. 88 00:04:18,509 --> 00:04:21,677 The hope is that this year, the sonic drill program 89 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:24,721 will tell us exactly where to dig. 90 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:26,306 The detailed work in this area 91 00:04:26,392 --> 00:04:28,058 is going to give us a much better picture 92 00:04:28,143 --> 00:04:30,143 -of where the money pit is. -Well, I'll tell you what. 93 00:04:30,229 --> 00:04:32,312 Continue to do what you... What you've done. 94 00:04:32,398 --> 00:04:35,274 -Continuing on. -All righty. Thank you. 95 00:04:35,359 --> 00:04:37,109 -See you, guys. -Charles: See you, rick. 96 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:38,610 -Terry: Take care. -Charles: Take care. 97 00:04:38,696 --> 00:04:40,821 Narrator: As the drilling operation 98 00:04:40,906 --> 00:04:43,407 gets underway in the money pit area... 99 00:04:43,492 --> 00:04:45,075 Marty: Morning, guys! 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,035 -Others: Morning. -Gary: Hello, chaps. 101 00:04:47,121 --> 00:04:49,913 Narrator: ...Rick lagina joins his brother marty, 102 00:04:49,999 --> 00:04:51,790 along with other members of the team 103 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:54,960 and geoscientist dr. Ian spooner 104 00:04:55,004 --> 00:04:57,963 to continue their exploration of a mysterious feature 105 00:04:58,007 --> 00:05:03,969 on lot 11, near the western edge of the triangle-shaped swamp. 106 00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:06,138 Are you going to tell us where to dig? 107 00:05:06,223 --> 00:05:08,181 Yes. 108 00:05:08,267 --> 00:05:10,767 -Okay. Good! 109 00:05:10,853 --> 00:05:13,437 narrator: This feature is one of two locations 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,314 on either side of the swamp 111 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,858 where oak island theorists corjan mol 112 00:05:17,943 --> 00:05:20,110 and chris morford believe 113 00:05:20,195 --> 00:05:21,653 that priceless religious artifacts 114 00:05:21,697 --> 00:05:24,156 connected to the knights templar, 115 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:25,824 including the golden menorah that once stood 116 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:28,118 in king solomon's temple, 117 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:30,078 as well as the ark of the covenant, 118 00:05:30,164 --> 00:05:32,581 could potentially be buried. 119 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:35,000 -That's impressive. -Yup. 120 00:05:36,462 --> 00:05:39,254 Well, what are we doing, ian? You're in charge here. 121 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:41,590 Well, metal detecting is critical. 122 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:43,633 -Agreed! 123 00:05:43,719 --> 00:05:46,511 -finally, we reach an agreement! -Marty: You know what? 124 00:05:46,555 --> 00:05:48,472 -Normally, you don't get to go first, do you? Yeah. -No. 125 00:05:48,557 --> 00:05:51,016 Yeah, well, the order I would see is, metal detect, 126 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:53,852 then if we can, um, we may not have 127 00:05:53,896 --> 00:05:55,645 to clear all the trees, but clear a few more. 128 00:05:55,731 --> 00:05:57,689 -Yeah. -Marty: Yeah, I think. 129 00:05:57,733 --> 00:05:59,441 And then excavate. 130 00:05:59,526 --> 00:06:01,276 So, I'm kind of 131 00:06:01,362 --> 00:06:04,196 interested in this area right here because there's two things. 132 00:06:04,239 --> 00:06:06,365 It's either young-- which is terribly important, 133 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:08,158 because what were they searching for? 134 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:10,327 And if it's old, there's many things it could have been. 135 00:06:10,412 --> 00:06:12,579 -Yeah. -Marty: No more talking. 136 00:06:12,664 --> 00:06:14,915 -Get after it, gary! -Oh, I am, mate. 137 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:20,379 -come on. 138 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:22,381 Speak to me, machine. 139 00:06:22,466 --> 00:06:25,217 The west hill location is, again, a very interesting site. 140 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:27,219 Why wouldn't you go check at this point? 141 00:06:27,304 --> 00:06:30,889 Because chris and corjan-- they've been right to date. 142 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:32,891 The idea is to come to an understanding 143 00:06:32,935 --> 00:06:36,269 of the mounded area, and so, the hope is 144 00:06:36,355 --> 00:06:39,564 that we can find some type of structure, 145 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:41,566 and we're always looking for artifacts to try 146 00:06:41,652 --> 00:06:44,236 to tell the story of a... Of a location. 147 00:06:48,534 --> 00:06:50,325 Yeah, I think that's good. 148 00:06:50,411 --> 00:06:53,036 Not really feeling any love in here. 149 00:06:53,122 --> 00:06:56,039 -We're ready any time you are. -Okay. 150 00:07:00,546 --> 00:07:02,587 Ian: We should take a look now. 151 00:07:02,673 --> 00:07:06,133 -Rick: That in the bucket? -Ian: Yeah. 152 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:07,717 -Okay. -Marty: Boy, not a rock in there. 153 00:07:07,803 --> 00:07:09,177 Ian: Yeah, it's not big rocks. 154 00:07:09,263 --> 00:07:10,762 It's obviously disturbed material, 155 00:07:10,848 --> 00:07:12,764 and it's very loosely packed. 156 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:13,974 We'll have to just go deeper. 157 00:07:14,059 --> 00:07:15,434 Billy: Yeah. 158 00:07:17,688 --> 00:07:19,771 Ian: Not a lot of stones, no. 159 00:07:19,857 --> 00:07:21,773 We want big stones. 160 00:07:21,859 --> 00:07:23,775 Um, that's a root system probably. 161 00:07:23,861 --> 00:07:25,902 Marty: I think so. 162 00:07:25,988 --> 00:07:28,572 Narrator: Because the team is finding disturbed material, 163 00:07:28,657 --> 00:07:31,450 or evidence of human workings, 164 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:33,243 could it mean that they are close 165 00:07:33,328 --> 00:07:34,953 to proving that chris morford 166 00:07:34,997 --> 00:07:38,707 and corjan mol's incredible theory is true? 167 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:40,333 You want to stop? 168 00:07:40,419 --> 00:07:43,628 Ian: No. Uh, let him do one more bucket. 169 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:52,637 Ian: Well, I'm going to take a look. 170 00:07:52,723 --> 00:07:53,805 Stop there, billy. 171 00:07:53,849 --> 00:07:55,557 Ian: That's good. 172 00:07:55,642 --> 00:07:59,436 So, I think we're down into the surface, underneath, 173 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,980 that this was piled on top of. 174 00:08:02,024 --> 00:08:05,108 -Exactly. -Also, if you take a look at it, 175 00:08:05,194 --> 00:08:08,403 within this, there's no stones. 176 00:08:08,489 --> 00:08:11,114 Is that indicative of a much older dig then? 177 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,618 Well, right now, that's what I'm defaulting to. 178 00:08:14,661 --> 00:08:16,995 -Yeah. -Let's take another foot off it. -Ian: Yup. 179 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,124 The mound itself was almost exclusively dirt. 180 00:08:21,210 --> 00:08:23,752 The rocks weren't there. We know that swamp, 181 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:25,879 'cause we've dug all over. It's full of rocks. 182 00:08:25,964 --> 00:08:29,341 So that would imply to me that it was hand dug. 183 00:08:29,384 --> 00:08:32,302 Doug: Big pile of rocks right there. 184 00:08:32,387 --> 00:08:35,430 Stop there, billy. 185 00:08:35,516 --> 00:08:39,643 That's, to me, the original layer. 186 00:08:39,728 --> 00:08:42,812 They're somewhat fitted. That, that, that, that. 187 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,356 Yeah. I think that's interesting, 188 00:08:44,441 --> 00:08:47,609 and the stone on the side-- it continues on. 189 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,069 Some of it fitted together 190 00:08:49,154 --> 00:08:52,739 exactly the same as the paved area. 191 00:08:52,824 --> 00:08:55,951 -Is that right? -Yeah. Looks hand-placed. 192 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:03,792 Perfect. 193 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:06,586 Rick: They're somewhat fitted. 194 00:09:06,672 --> 00:09:08,880 -Yeah. Yeah. -Right here. 195 00:09:08,924 --> 00:09:11,925 Narrator: While investigating a man-made trench feature, 196 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:13,885 located on lot 11, 197 00:09:13,929 --> 00:09:15,387 along the western side 198 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:17,806 of the mysterious triangle-shaped swamp, 199 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:19,266 rick and marty lagina, 200 00:09:19,351 --> 00:09:22,769 along with geoscientist dr. Ian spooner 201 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:24,980 and other members of their team, have just made 202 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:27,566 a potentially important discovery. 203 00:09:27,609 --> 00:09:29,943 Ian: It's all of the size, you know, small, 204 00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:33,029 some of it fitted exactly the same as the paved area. 205 00:09:33,115 --> 00:09:35,615 Maybe people were throwing rocks up 206 00:09:35,701 --> 00:09:37,409 as this was being excavated. 207 00:09:37,494 --> 00:09:40,203 What I'm thinking is, 'cause marty knows, 208 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:42,080 we both like to build stuff with stone. 209 00:09:42,124 --> 00:09:43,623 -Mm-hmm. -Is it possible 210 00:09:43,709 --> 00:09:46,167 they used the stone to line this? 211 00:09:46,253 --> 00:09:50,171 If this feature carries all the way, then, it's purposeful. 212 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:52,841 Narrator: A layer of fitted rocks 213 00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:55,552 resembling the stone-paved area 214 00:09:55,637 --> 00:09:57,971 that the team discovered last year in the swamp, 215 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:01,725 and which was dated to be as much as 800 years old? 216 00:10:01,810 --> 00:10:05,770 Could the two features be connected in some way? 217 00:10:05,856 --> 00:10:08,189 Again, what's got me a little perplexed is, 218 00:10:08,275 --> 00:10:11,484 it has some of the characteristics of being older. 219 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:14,613 Bill, when you come back in, just only go so far. 220 00:10:14,656 --> 00:10:17,949 -I'd just like to see if this carries through here. -Okay. 221 00:10:31,006 --> 00:10:32,589 Billy? 222 00:10:32,674 --> 00:10:34,299 Let's just take a look. 223 00:10:37,846 --> 00:10:38,970 Yeah. 224 00:10:45,187 --> 00:10:46,853 Huh. 225 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:50,106 Well, we can see the edge pretty nicely there. 226 00:10:50,192 --> 00:10:52,567 -Mm-hmm. -The stone on the side continues on. 227 00:10:52,653 --> 00:10:54,110 Rick: It's just hard to believe 228 00:10:54,196 --> 00:10:56,780 that you would dig it this long, right? 229 00:10:56,865 --> 00:11:00,075 -Yeah. -You know, why dig this? 230 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,577 -Yep. -Ian: It just doesn't make any sense. 231 00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:04,287 A farmer doesn't do this. 232 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:08,875 It's just not a everyday activity. 233 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,586 You got to chase the why of it. 234 00:11:11,672 --> 00:11:13,963 Why we're here. This has to do with... 235 00:11:14,049 --> 00:11:18,843 Chris and corjan's theory on the two points off of the pentagram. 236 00:11:18,929 --> 00:11:21,805 Well, look, that leads to an obvious thing, right? 237 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:24,307 That's close enough for the technology 238 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:26,643 of the time we're dealing with. 239 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:28,645 Particularly the sense of a trench. 240 00:11:28,730 --> 00:11:30,438 If people are looking for something, 241 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:31,898 but they're not exactly sure, 242 00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:33,900 that's what you do-- dig a trench. 243 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:36,403 Doug: The other thing is that we're back to the possibility 244 00:11:36,488 --> 00:11:37,987 that the treasure hunt's been going on 245 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:39,656 a lot longer than we ever imagined. 246 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:43,368 Someone could have been trying to find something here 247 00:11:43,412 --> 00:11:44,744 based on geometry similar 248 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:46,913 to what corjan and chris have discovered. 249 00:11:46,998 --> 00:11:49,374 -Mm-hmm. -Ian: This was a dug pile. 250 00:11:49,418 --> 00:11:53,253 Find what you didn't find or hide what you wanted to hide, 251 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:55,547 and... And you get out of there. 252 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:58,842 To me, it's another thing right now indicating 253 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:02,387 that there was very complex activity going on here. 254 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:04,514 My take on it is not to disturb it a lot more, 255 00:12:04,599 --> 00:12:06,474 'cause we can come in here easily. 256 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,477 So then I'm thinking maybe we're done. 257 00:12:09,563 --> 00:12:11,896 Let's just stand back and assess what we've done today and... 258 00:12:11,982 --> 00:12:13,898 -And what the data shows. -Yeah. 259 00:12:13,984 --> 00:12:15,567 Okay, bill. I guess you can track out. 260 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:16,818 Yeah. 261 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:19,279 Rick: Imagine that, another mystery. 262 00:12:19,364 --> 00:12:21,656 Gary: We will find something. I'm positive. 263 00:12:24,369 --> 00:12:26,202 Narrator: Later that afternoon... 264 00:12:26,288 --> 00:12:27,495 Rick: Today, gentlemen, 265 00:12:27,581 --> 00:12:30,373 is a war room that I truly look forward to. 266 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:33,543 Narrator: ...Rick lagina has called a meeting in the war room, 267 00:12:33,628 --> 00:12:36,171 where he and the entire oak island team 268 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,339 will be presented with a theory that could add 269 00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:40,884 an intriguing new dimension 270 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:43,553 to the oak island treasure hunt. 271 00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:46,473 Erin k. Helton, uh, called me up. 272 00:12:46,558 --> 00:12:48,516 She made mention that she had 273 00:12:48,602 --> 00:12:50,769 a particular theory about oak island. 274 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:53,062 She brings a unique perspective, shall we say. 275 00:12:53,148 --> 00:12:57,066 She has this background in gis information systems, 276 00:12:57,152 --> 00:13:01,905 and, uh, zena's work really was the genesis of her interest. 277 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:04,741 So to that end, doug, if you can call everybody up. 278 00:13:06,661 --> 00:13:08,453 Rick: Hey, everybody. 279 00:13:08,497 --> 00:13:09,621 -Marty: Hello. -Steve g.: Hey. 280 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:11,039 Hi, guys. 281 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:12,999 -Rick: Hello, erin. -Hi. 282 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:14,959 So, erin, I would turn it over to you, 283 00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:16,377 but I'd ask you first to... 284 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:18,880 To, uh, enlighten them a bit further 285 00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:22,133 about your background and how you approach this theory. 286 00:13:22,219 --> 00:13:23,760 Thank you. Thank you so much. 287 00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:26,846 To introduce myself, um, uh, erin helton. 288 00:13:26,932 --> 00:13:28,223 I actually started my career 289 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:29,390 in gis. 290 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:31,434 Narrator: Erin helton is an expert 291 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,311 in geographic information systems-- 292 00:13:33,355 --> 00:13:34,896 or gis-- 293 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:38,817 and has spent over a decade studying archaeological surveys 294 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:41,945 and excavations throughout north america. 295 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:44,197 Also joining the meeting 296 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:46,449 is judi rudebusch, a former colleague 297 00:13:46,535 --> 00:13:49,035 of the late author, zena halpern, 298 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,204 whose research on the oak island mystery 299 00:13:51,289 --> 00:13:54,582 has played a central role in erin's theory. 300 00:13:54,668 --> 00:13:55,875 So, I'm a map person. 301 00:13:55,961 --> 00:13:57,710 I'm a cartographer. 302 00:13:57,796 --> 00:13:59,087 It was kind of completely natural 303 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:01,130 to have intrigued me when zena halpern 304 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:03,675 ended up presenting a couple of maps, 305 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,135 um, which I think are very valuable clues 306 00:14:06,221 --> 00:14:08,972 to helping understand what's happened on oak island. 307 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:10,390 Judi, do you have anything to say 308 00:14:10,475 --> 00:14:12,100 about the map and your thoughts about it 309 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:13,601 and zena's work? 310 00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:18,314 I remember when she, uh, first was given it to research. 311 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,441 The first thing she said was, 312 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:23,236 she says, "judi, we're sitting on dynamite." 313 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:36,875 narrator: Four years ago, 314 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,294 zena presented rick lagina and the team 315 00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:43,047 with what she believed to be a 14th century french map 316 00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,424 of oak island, 317 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:47,343 created by members of the knights templar. 318 00:14:47,429 --> 00:14:50,972 One of the more intriguing aspects of the 14th century map 319 00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:54,225 is that it identifies many well-known sites and landmarks 320 00:14:54,311 --> 00:14:58,521 found on oak island, including the swamp and the money pit. 321 00:14:58,607 --> 00:15:01,524 However, some features have remained a mystery 322 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:03,568 to rick, marty and the team-- 323 00:15:03,612 --> 00:15:05,862 most notably, two which are identified 324 00:15:05,947 --> 00:15:08,907 simply as "the anchors." 325 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:11,618 erin: For me, zena's maps really piqued my interest 326 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,661 to try to find these features. 327 00:15:13,747 --> 00:15:15,663 I'll actually be focusing mostly on the anchors 328 00:15:15,749 --> 00:15:17,498 on this map. 329 00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:19,042 I'll be locating these 330 00:15:19,127 --> 00:15:21,169 and proposing a location for those. 331 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:24,380 And I think "the anchors" is actually a bit of a clue. 332 00:15:26,217 --> 00:15:29,177 So, as a good gis analyst, I went and... 333 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:30,637 Started collecting data sets. 334 00:15:30,722 --> 00:15:33,348 I went and found as many aerial imagery data sets 335 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:36,392 that I could find, but also, in my opinion, more importantly, 336 00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:39,062 is, I found, uh, lidar aerial imagery. 337 00:15:39,147 --> 00:15:41,356 And I started plotting curious points of interest 338 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:43,316 all across the island. 339 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,026 Now, I'm gonna start with what's familiar, 340 00:15:45,111 --> 00:15:47,236 which is the nolan's cross, 341 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,238 and I'm also going to start with 20-a, 342 00:15:49,324 --> 00:15:51,866 which was a very well documented-- by steve-- 343 00:15:51,952 --> 00:15:53,701 uh, boulder from your excavations 344 00:15:53,787 --> 00:15:55,244 out in smith's cove. 345 00:15:55,330 --> 00:15:57,789 I will be talking about a lot of suspected features-- 346 00:15:57,874 --> 00:15:59,540 some of them haven't been named before. 347 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:02,210 Um, I have adopted somewhat of a naming convention 348 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:04,170 for each plot number-- 349 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:06,089 so in this case, 20-a, it's on plot 20, 350 00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:07,840 and I will be adding a letter suffix. 351 00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:09,717 So that way, it'll help me make sense, 352 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:11,135 or at least help keep track 353 00:16:11,221 --> 00:16:13,972 of all of the various suspected features and boulders. 354 00:16:14,057 --> 00:16:15,056 Okay. 355 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,391 And with the help of another boulder, 356 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:20,353 out on the west side of the island, 21-a, 357 00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:22,730 you can see it's faint, but it is there, 358 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:24,565 on the imagery here. 359 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:27,694 This is actually an east-west meridian line between them 360 00:16:27,779 --> 00:16:31,364 that extends the entire stretch of the island. 361 00:16:31,449 --> 00:16:34,409 This line has incredibly high precision. 362 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,786 We're within five-hundredths of a degree due east-west. 363 00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:38,913 This meridian line is very significant 364 00:16:38,999 --> 00:16:40,748 and it helps orient a lot of... 365 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:42,667 Anything to true north, essentially. 366 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:44,585 It's their true north and true east. 367 00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:46,045 It's really remarkable. 368 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,506 Okay, so I'm gonna propose one other boulder. 369 00:16:48,591 --> 00:16:50,717 6-a is another suspected boulder location. 370 00:16:50,802 --> 00:16:53,136 It was visible on the aerial imagery as well. 371 00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:54,971 And with 6-a, 372 00:16:55,056 --> 00:16:56,305 if you draw a circle... 373 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,058 Out to 21-a, 374 00:16:59,144 --> 00:17:01,394 and swing the circle all the way around, 375 00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,646 and if you draw a line through the headstone 376 00:17:03,732 --> 00:17:07,150 and straight through, you reach another boulder 377 00:17:07,235 --> 00:17:09,485 along the east side of the swamp. 378 00:17:09,571 --> 00:17:11,487 But I don't think this is just any boulder. 379 00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:13,156 I think this is 380 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:14,699 the west anchor. 381 00:17:15,827 --> 00:17:17,118 Narrator: The west anchor? 382 00:17:17,203 --> 00:17:19,120 As indicated on what is believed to be 383 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:21,914 a 14th century templar map? 384 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,043 Located east of the mysterious triangle-shaped swamp 385 00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:29,672 and just 147 feet from the megalithic formation of boulders 386 00:17:29,758 --> 00:17:32,967 known as nolan's cross? 387 00:17:33,053 --> 00:17:36,387 This being the west anchor, and I suspect the north anchor 388 00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:39,849 can be found exactly 30 degrees east of north, 389 00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:41,642 up on the north edge. 390 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,229 I have numerous alignments and very faint lidar 391 00:17:45,273 --> 00:17:47,523 suggesting that there will be a boulder located 392 00:17:47,609 --> 00:17:49,442 right along that line. 393 00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:51,611 So these, I believe, are your two anchors 394 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:55,239 as depicted on zena's map. 395 00:17:55,283 --> 00:18:00,161 It's almost like there is a master plan to these features. 396 00:18:00,246 --> 00:18:03,206 Narrator: Could erin helton's research be correct 397 00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:06,876 that the two anchor points depicted on zena halpern's map 398 00:18:06,961 --> 00:18:08,586 might be boulders, 399 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:11,089 still setting in their original position 400 00:18:11,174 --> 00:18:14,717 as key coordinates of a master plan-- or grid-- 401 00:18:14,803 --> 00:18:17,178 created by those who buried a vast treasure 402 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:19,597 on oak island centuries ago? 403 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:23,518 If this is a truly significant map depicting oak island, 404 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:26,813 then you have to try and make sense out of the words on it. 405 00:18:26,898 --> 00:18:29,398 And I think she's correct. 406 00:18:29,484 --> 00:18:34,070 These anchor points could mean exactly what she's saying. 407 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:36,364 This anchors the grid. 408 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,741 I think that's a logical conclusion. 409 00:18:38,827 --> 00:18:41,119 Erin: So, we're gonna go back to our maps here. 410 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:42,495 My goal 411 00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:44,914 is to help draw out what's been lost 412 00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:46,415 around the money pit area. 413 00:18:46,501 --> 00:18:48,376 And I'm hoping, after we've established 414 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:50,002 the money pit area, 415 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:53,297 we'll also be able to predict an actual location for the vault. 416 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:03,015 In: After we've established the money pit area, 417 00:19:03,101 --> 00:19:06,519 we'll also be able to predict an actual location for the vault. 418 00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:08,312 Narrator: In the war room, 419 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:11,149 geographic information systems specialist erin helton 420 00:19:11,234 --> 00:19:15,653 has just presented rick, marty, craig and the oak island team 421 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:17,738 with an astonishing theory, 422 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:21,367 a theory suggesting that the so-called anchor points 423 00:19:21,452 --> 00:19:24,829 on a possible 14th century templar map of oak island 424 00:19:24,873 --> 00:19:27,957 could hold the key to revealing the true location 425 00:19:28,042 --> 00:19:30,334 of the money pit treasure vault. 426 00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,879 Erin: We're gonna go back to our maps here. 427 00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:35,256 I found this map of oak island. 428 00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:39,010 This was published in popular science, June 1939. 429 00:19:39,095 --> 00:19:40,553 And one thing that I found really exciting 430 00:19:40,638 --> 00:19:41,679 was when I discovered 431 00:19:41,764 --> 00:19:44,390 that it's just such a great clue. 432 00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:47,059 It not only has the two drilled stones 433 00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:50,563 but it has all of these other boulders marked. 434 00:19:50,648 --> 00:19:52,857 And with these other boulders 435 00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:55,067 and measurements marked and indicated 436 00:19:55,153 --> 00:19:56,736 and with the anchor, 437 00:19:56,821 --> 00:20:00,573 we can triangulate the location of the money pit. 438 00:20:00,658 --> 00:20:02,074 Now, we're gonna zoom in here. 439 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,745 The boulder south of the money pit on this map, 440 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:08,122 I'm designating 18-a. 441 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,374 We have 15-a 442 00:20:10,460 --> 00:20:12,877 along the east side of the swamp. 443 00:20:12,921 --> 00:20:15,046 And another feature, 16-a, 444 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,299 is a suspected boulder on the coastline. 445 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:20,843 So, if we take the location of 15-a 446 00:20:20,929 --> 00:20:24,847 and we run a line up to our east meridian line boulder, 20-a, 447 00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:26,432 in smith's cove, 448 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:30,102 we run a line from 16-a on the edge of the beach 449 00:20:30,188 --> 00:20:33,940 and we draw a circle from the west anchor out to 18-a, 450 00:20:34,025 --> 00:20:36,025 just south of the money pit location, 451 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:38,527 all three intersect 452 00:20:38,613 --> 00:20:41,572 in where I think the money pit is located. 453 00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:44,408 And I'm a big fan 454 00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:46,535 of corroborating independent data sources, 455 00:20:46,621 --> 00:20:50,581 so I asked for the center point 456 00:20:50,625 --> 00:20:53,584 for your "caisson of choice," I guess you could say. 457 00:20:53,628 --> 00:20:55,461 Whatever caisson you currently feel 458 00:20:55,546 --> 00:20:57,546 is most representative of your money pit. 459 00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:00,091 -Yeah. -This lines up 460 00:21:00,176 --> 00:21:01,592 within three feet 461 00:21:01,678 --> 00:21:03,761 of my proposed money pit location. 462 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:08,432 Marty: Look at all the wood. 463 00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:10,101 Gary: Wow, that is spectacular. 464 00:21:10,186 --> 00:21:11,602 -Terry: Whoa! -Narrator: Last year, the team 465 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:14,230 excavated an eight-foot-wide steel-cased shaft 466 00:21:14,315 --> 00:21:15,815 known as rf-1, 467 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,985 where they found incredible evidence suggesting 468 00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:22,238 they could be close to locating the original money pit. 469 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:25,032 Is it possible that erin helton, 470 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:27,910 using zena halpern's believed 14th century map 471 00:21:27,996 --> 00:21:30,037 as a baseline for her theory, 472 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:32,790 has just found more evidence that the oak island team 473 00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:37,545 was in fact just mere feet from locating the fabled treasure? 474 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,797 Erin, steve... 475 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:41,257 -I've got a question. -Sure. 476 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:42,758 Do you want me to check all those stones? 477 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:44,802 If you could lock in the west anchor 478 00:21:44,887 --> 00:21:47,638 and north anchor, if we could get those confirmed, um, 479 00:21:47,724 --> 00:21:50,808 -that would be, that would be great. -Sure. 480 00:21:50,893 --> 00:21:53,894 Erin: I'm curious to see kind of how large they are. 481 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,897 Because the smaller the boulder is, the more precise 482 00:21:56,983 --> 00:21:59,608 all the other alignments coming out from it would be. 483 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,777 Confirming these suspected boulders, 484 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:04,613 I think we can finally put together 485 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,449 an actual location for the vault. 486 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:08,034 Rick: So, let's get her that data, 487 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,493 and see what she comes up with. 488 00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:10,494 Certainly will. 489 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,871 Rick: So, erin, 490 00:22:11,956 --> 00:22:12,955 we want to say thank you. 491 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:15,708 And we look forward to your continued 492 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:17,168 interest in this subject. 493 00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:18,711 Thank you. Thank you so much. 494 00:22:18,796 --> 00:22:20,504 -Thank you. -Thanks, everybody. 495 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:21,839 Marty: Cheers. 496 00:22:21,924 --> 00:22:23,674 To the hunt! 497 00:22:29,891 --> 00:22:31,766 Narrator: The following day... 498 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:33,559 -Charles: Hey, marty. -Marty: Hey, guys. 499 00:22:33,644 --> 00:22:35,019 Where's all the goods? 500 00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:36,896 The goods are right here in front of us, brother. 501 00:22:36,981 --> 00:22:39,023 Narrator: ...As the team prepares to search 502 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:41,192 for erin helton's so-called "anchor points," 503 00:22:41,235 --> 00:22:44,028 marty lagina checks in at the money pit area 504 00:22:44,113 --> 00:22:46,739 for a progress report on borehole f-6. 505 00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,533 A borehole rick and marty hope 506 00:22:49,577 --> 00:22:53,120 will produce evidence of the legendary chappell vault. 507 00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:54,872 What do we got? 508 00:22:54,957 --> 00:22:58,584 We got bedrock plateau at 160. 509 00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:01,879 We went down over 30 feet to 192. 510 00:23:01,964 --> 00:23:03,756 -Right. Hey, scott. -Hey, guys. How's it going? 511 00:23:03,841 --> 00:23:05,216 -Good. -Hey, scott. 512 00:23:05,259 --> 00:23:06,926 Pretty interesting thing just happened over there. 513 00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:09,720 They went from 206 to 213.5, 514 00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:11,180 just the bar just went down. 515 00:23:11,265 --> 00:23:13,015 -Just now? -Yes. -It's an opening. 516 00:23:13,101 --> 00:23:14,892 Now that's maybe what I'm looking for. 517 00:23:14,936 --> 00:23:18,104 -The plot thickens because we haven't seen this before. -Yeah. 518 00:23:18,189 --> 00:23:20,940 Narrator: A seven-foot void or cavity? 519 00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:25,111 Some 213 feet deep in the money pit? 520 00:23:25,196 --> 00:23:28,072 Could the oak island team have found an area 521 00:23:28,116 --> 00:23:31,951 that may contain the money pit treasure vault? 522 00:23:33,246 --> 00:23:35,413 That's seven feet, seven and a half feet of stuff right there. 523 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,960 -So, an opening? -Yeah. 524 00:23:41,045 --> 00:23:44,046 This right here is 206. 525 00:23:44,132 --> 00:23:46,090 -Terry: That's 206? Okay. -Yeah. 526 00:23:46,134 --> 00:23:48,426 Let's take a look, shall we? 527 00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:52,388 So, this whole intersection here is? 528 00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:54,682 206 to 213 and a half. 529 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:57,101 Something washed down through here and-and 530 00:23:57,145 --> 00:23:58,936 deposited a lot of this material. 531 00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:00,271 -Tedford: Yeah. -Okay. 532 00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:02,064 Marty: Still don't see any real void, 533 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:03,732 though-- do you think you've drilled 534 00:24:03,818 --> 00:24:05,151 a real void anywhere yet? 535 00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:06,485 -Not yet. 536 00:24:06,571 --> 00:24:07,611 marty: Not yet? 537 00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:10,739 This, I can see bedding in this. 538 00:24:10,825 --> 00:24:12,950 Yeah, this is not what we want to see. 539 00:24:14,871 --> 00:24:17,288 -Marty: Thanks, guys. -Terry: Thanks a lot, man. 540 00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:19,623 Narrator: Because the team has not found 541 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,500 evidence of the void where the treasure vault 542 00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:23,627 is believed to have migrated to, 543 00:24:23,713 --> 00:24:26,630 they will now cease drilling at this location 544 00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:29,800 and move to the next borehole on their grid. 545 00:24:29,844 --> 00:24:32,428 The island is outwitting us. 546 00:24:32,513 --> 00:24:35,431 -Treasure runs away from the seeker, remember. 547 00:24:35,516 --> 00:24:37,641 -just keep plugging away. -It's there? 548 00:24:37,727 --> 00:24:39,143 -It's there, marty. -All right. -The day is coming. 549 00:24:39,187 --> 00:24:41,020 On that happy thought, I got some stuff to do. 550 00:24:41,105 --> 00:24:43,355 -Okay, marty. Take care. -Carry on. -See you later. 551 00:24:43,441 --> 00:24:46,358 Narrator: As charles barkhouse and terry matheson 552 00:24:46,444 --> 00:24:48,944 continue to oversee the core-drilling operation 553 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,654 at the money pit... 554 00:24:50,698 --> 00:24:53,324 Rick: I really do want to find 555 00:24:53,409 --> 00:24:55,201 something that's relevant to the story. 556 00:24:55,286 --> 00:24:57,203 Yeah. 557 00:24:57,288 --> 00:24:59,997 Narrator: ...Rick lagina and metal detection expert gary drayton 558 00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:01,957 arrive at lot 13, 559 00:25:02,043 --> 00:25:04,627 on the opposite side of the swamp 560 00:25:04,712 --> 00:25:07,838 from the mysterious trench on lot 11. 561 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:10,633 It is in this area that oak island theorists 562 00:25:10,676 --> 00:25:13,052 chris morford and corjan mol 563 00:25:13,137 --> 00:25:15,429 have identified a second location 564 00:25:15,515 --> 00:25:17,598 where they believe priceless religious treasures 565 00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:18,933 may be hidden. 566 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:22,311 It's time to find something that connects to 567 00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:24,605 what oak island might be about. 568 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:27,441 Okay, mate. Time to put this place on the treasure map. 569 00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:29,401 Okay. 570 00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:31,529 Let's find some gold and silver, mate. 571 00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:33,239 I'm not gonna argue. 572 00:25:34,742 --> 00:25:36,492 -rick: I love that sound. -Yeah. 573 00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:38,702 So let's find something good. 574 00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:50,381 -that's modern iron. -Yeah. 575 00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:52,883 -I'm just gonna skip over it, mate. -Okay. 576 00:25:56,764 --> 00:25:59,056 -rick: That's not bad. 577 00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:04,061 Yeah, just in there, mate. 578 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:29,044 that... 579 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:30,588 Is a large piece of iron. 580 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:33,924 It is off an old door lock. 581 00:26:35,886 --> 00:26:38,178 Looks victorian to me. 582 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:40,973 Yeah, do you know what this reminds me of, actually? 583 00:26:41,058 --> 00:26:45,436 If you had a fancy cabinet, like a little bureau. 584 00:26:45,479 --> 00:26:47,771 -A latch? -This is what that looks like. 585 00:26:47,815 --> 00:26:51,108 Yeah, it's like a cabinet drawer lock. 586 00:26:51,193 --> 00:26:52,526 -Yeah, it's not big enough for a door. -Yeah. 587 00:26:52,612 --> 00:26:54,445 Yeah. 588 00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:56,113 Wonder what it's doing out here. 589 00:26:56,198 --> 00:26:57,740 Well, remember, now, that's... 590 00:26:57,783 --> 00:27:00,701 Anthony graves's home over there. 591 00:27:00,786 --> 00:27:02,995 Narrator: A lock to a cabinet? 592 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,582 Found on property that once belonged to anthony graves? 593 00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,752 Although little is known about this 19th century 594 00:27:09,837 --> 00:27:11,962 oak island landowner, 595 00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:13,881 he is rumored to have often paid merchants 596 00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:17,801 for goods on the mainland using silver coins. 597 00:27:17,845 --> 00:27:19,970 Is it possible that anthony graves 598 00:27:20,056 --> 00:27:22,765 may have discovered part of the treasure, 599 00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:25,809 and in one of the same areas where chris morford 600 00:27:25,853 --> 00:27:29,980 and corjan mol have instructed the team to focus their search? 601 00:27:30,066 --> 00:27:34,318 If so, what else might still be waiting to be found? 602 00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,030 At least we're going back in time, mate. 603 00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:39,531 -Yep. -That's good. 604 00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:41,700 -We need to go back further in time. -Oh, yeah. 605 00:27:41,786 --> 00:27:43,494 Got to be something else here. 606 00:27:43,537 --> 00:27:51,794 -Rick: This area holds a lot of promise. -Yeah. 607 00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:55,339 Marty: So, steve, we're going to find the anchor points. 608 00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:57,675 -Steve g.: The two anchor points. -All right. 609 00:27:57,718 --> 00:28:00,010 Alex: There's jack and gary. 610 00:28:02,556 --> 00:28:04,306 -Hey, guys. -Marty: Gentlemen. 611 00:28:04,392 --> 00:28:05,474 How's it going? 612 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,059 You guys are joining the party, right? 613 00:28:07,144 --> 00:28:09,895 Yep, you got that right, mate. We're not missing out on this. 614 00:28:09,980 --> 00:28:12,022 Narrator: One day after the team's meeting 615 00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:14,400 with oak island theorist erin helton, 616 00:28:14,485 --> 00:28:18,862 marty and alex lagina, along with surveyor steve guptill, 617 00:28:18,906 --> 00:28:22,199 arrive at the mysterious triangle-shaped swamp. 618 00:28:22,243 --> 00:28:24,827 They are also being joined by metal detection expert 619 00:28:24,912 --> 00:28:27,663 gary drayton, and jack begley. 620 00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:30,708 The team will attempt to locate one of two anchor stones 621 00:28:30,751 --> 00:28:34,086 noted on a 14th century map of oak island. 622 00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:36,505 A map that is believed to be connected 623 00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:39,007 to the knights templar. 624 00:28:39,093 --> 00:28:41,051 Steve g.: So I have the coordinate. 625 00:28:41,095 --> 00:28:43,345 -We're about 200 feet away. -Let's go find it. 626 00:28:43,431 --> 00:28:46,390 I hope she's right, I hope this is really dramatic, 627 00:28:46,434 --> 00:28:48,934 -whatever it is. -Hopefully. This way. 628 00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:51,061 Narrator: According to erin's research, 629 00:28:51,105 --> 00:28:53,897 these stones are important markers 630 00:28:53,983 --> 00:28:55,524 that could reveal the precise location 631 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:58,152 of the original money pit treasure vault. 632 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:00,612 I have real problems with zena's map. 633 00:29:00,698 --> 00:29:03,198 But when you get somebody as professional as erin 634 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:05,951 who looks at it and starts to think that it's real 635 00:29:06,036 --> 00:29:08,245 because of her discipline, 636 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,998 that helps me think perhaps it's real. 637 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:15,419 The coordinate is taking me to... 638 00:29:15,504 --> 00:29:16,879 Here. 639 00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,380 -Jack: Wow. -Alex: That is a rock. 640 00:29:18,466 --> 00:29:19,506 Jack: You're kidding. 641 00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:20,966 -It's bang-on. -Yeah. 642 00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:22,676 But that looks like a little rock. 643 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:24,261 Steve g.: She did say that it would be a small rock. 644 00:29:24,305 --> 00:29:26,054 Gary: Might be much bigger in the ground. 645 00:29:26,140 --> 00:29:27,890 Steve g.: Well, let's uncover it. There could be a mark on it. 646 00:29:27,975 --> 00:29:29,558 And that would be important. 647 00:29:29,643 --> 00:29:31,059 Gary: But, ironically, it's called an "anchor" stone. 648 00:29:31,145 --> 00:29:34,688 You would see this, 'cause you'd be out on a ship there. 649 00:29:34,774 --> 00:29:36,732 You'd come in here and you'd see it, yeah. 650 00:29:36,817 --> 00:29:38,776 If that really is an ancient harbor... 651 00:29:38,819 --> 00:29:40,235 Well, if that's a harbor, that helps. 652 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,738 ...Then it makes more sense that you'd actually have 653 00:29:42,823 --> 00:29:45,491 one of your anchor stones nearby. 654 00:29:45,576 --> 00:29:48,577 Marty: All right, jack, if you don't mind. 655 00:29:48,662 --> 00:29:50,454 Jack: Oh, yeah. 656 00:29:50,539 --> 00:29:52,956 Steve g.: Here's how we-we know it wasn't put in place, 657 00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:54,792 at least in the last 30 years. 658 00:29:54,835 --> 00:29:57,044 There's a fairly substantial root on top of it. 659 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,420 -Thanks. -You're welcome. 660 00:29:58,506 --> 00:30:00,255 We haven't got to the bottom of it yet. 661 00:30:00,341 --> 00:30:03,509 -It could be quite large. -Gary: It is bigger. 662 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:06,386 Steve g.: I mean, there's one thing that we can say, for survey control. 663 00:30:06,472 --> 00:30:08,347 It's big, it's in place, it looks like it's in situ. 664 00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:10,599 It's something that we would use. 665 00:30:10,684 --> 00:30:12,476 And she's right. In our world, 666 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,394 something smaller, because we want the center. 667 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,647 -Well, let me ask you this. -Mm-hmm. 668 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,690 Was that exactly the point? Right at the top? 669 00:30:18,776 --> 00:30:21,318 Steve g.: That was the exact, yeah. 670 00:30:22,571 --> 00:30:23,946 Jack: I'm kind of getting convinced 671 00:30:24,031 --> 00:30:25,823 that this might be an anchor stone. 672 00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:26,990 It might actually be 673 00:30:27,076 --> 00:30:28,575 in place. 674 00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:30,285 They didn't have to move it because they already 675 00:30:30,371 --> 00:30:32,287 found stones that were in place. 676 00:30:32,373 --> 00:30:34,832 So I think this is pretty convincing. 677 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:38,335 Alex: I'm not seeing much of anything. 678 00:30:38,379 --> 00:30:39,795 Take a look at that. 679 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,589 You don't think that's man-made? 680 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:44,466 Right in the center of the rock? 681 00:30:44,552 --> 00:30:46,885 Jack: Yeah, I'm almost-- I'm kind of with steve on this one. 682 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:49,847 -That could be. -It's so damn subtle, but... 683 00:30:49,932 --> 00:30:51,181 Steve g.: It doesn't look natural. 684 00:30:51,267 --> 00:30:53,475 I mean, I put marks no bigger than that 685 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,185 in my survey control. 686 00:30:55,229 --> 00:30:57,187 I wouldn't leave that for another survey to come behind. 687 00:30:57,231 --> 00:31:00,566 -But I've put marks no bigger than that. -Jack: Yeah. 688 00:31:00,651 --> 00:31:02,192 Put it right in there. See if that's the exact spot, 689 00:31:02,236 --> 00:31:03,861 just for the grins. 690 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,408 -Steve g.: This is her anchor. -Jack: Wow. 691 00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:12,995 To land right on the spot that she indicated. 692 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,539 -Alex: That's fantastic. -Yeah. 693 00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:19,543 Narrator: Could surveyor steve guptill's assessment be correct? 694 00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:23,005 That this rock is, in fact, the west anchor, 695 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:25,507 as noted on a possible templar map 696 00:31:25,593 --> 00:31:29,011 that is believed to be nearly 700 years old? 697 00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:31,847 Marty: I'm hoping there's something underneath. 698 00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:34,266 That would make sense. You could send a guy out and say, 699 00:31:34,351 --> 00:31:36,351 give him a general area... In fact, 700 00:31:36,437 --> 00:31:39,730 I like what you said, jack. Go to the harbor, 701 00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:41,607 pull your boat in, look to your right. 702 00:31:41,692 --> 00:31:44,318 You'll see a bunch of stones. Turn them over 703 00:31:44,403 --> 00:31:46,069 till you find the one with the mark on it. 704 00:31:46,113 --> 00:31:47,863 That's the anchor stone. I can buy that. 705 00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:49,239 I can, too, yeah. 706 00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:50,365 I mean, it certainly stands out. 707 00:31:50,451 --> 00:31:52,409 It's a white granite rock. 708 00:31:52,453 --> 00:31:56,872 -You would have seen it from inside the water there. -Marty: Yeah. 709 00:31:56,957 --> 00:31:58,165 We should just flip it up from this side. It'll... 710 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,709 -Flip it that way. Agreed. -Yeah, exactly. 711 00:32:00,794 --> 00:32:02,586 This might be tough. 712 00:32:02,671 --> 00:32:05,380 Narrator: The anchor stone, visible from a ship? 713 00:32:05,466 --> 00:32:06,757 Watch your hands, jack. 714 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,425 Narrator: Is it possible this stone 715 00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:10,385 was used by sailing vessels 716 00:32:10,471 --> 00:32:13,096 to mark not only the location of a safe harbor... 717 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,514 All right, that's good. 718 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,391 Narrator: ...But also the whereabouts 719 00:32:16,477 --> 00:32:19,019 of the money pit treasure vault? 720 00:32:20,564 --> 00:32:22,189 What's this right here? 721 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,941 Gary: So, you're seeing markings on the side of the rock? 722 00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:25,734 Marty: Well, there's something going on here, but... 723 00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:28,612 Gary: Yeah, there's, like, a gash out the side, isn't there? 724 00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:31,323 Is there anything about this rock, gentlemen, that would... 725 00:32:31,408 --> 00:32:34,826 If you were to explain to somebody else how to find it, 726 00:32:34,912 --> 00:32:39,206 anything you see here that makes it other than a rock? 727 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:41,541 -Alex: Not yet. -Gary: No. 728 00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:44,086 But it is peculiar that it lines up so well. 729 00:32:44,171 --> 00:32:46,421 Alex: I'm not seeing very much. So, I think 730 00:32:46,507 --> 00:32:49,007 the way you'd identify it now would be 731 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:51,718 similar size or similar material in the other anchor. 732 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,929 But if you're trying to conceal something, you'd probably want 733 00:32:54,014 --> 00:32:57,015 to make sure the person knew about both of the anchors. 734 00:32:57,101 --> 00:33:00,060 So, I feel like we should maybe go check out 735 00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:01,311 -the other one. -Marty: We should. 736 00:33:01,355 --> 00:33:02,437 -Jack: Yep. -Marty: All right. Let's go. 737 00:33:02,523 --> 00:33:04,564 -All right. -Gary: Okay. 738 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,528 All right, guys. We're off in this direction. 739 00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,279 About 280 feet. 740 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,948 I'm guessing it's about in the middle 741 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:14,574 of the boulderless beach. 742 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:15,909 Narrator: After locating 743 00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:17,911 one of the so-called anchor stones 744 00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:20,622 noted on a 14th century french map, 745 00:33:20,708 --> 00:33:23,542 which theorist erin helton believes will help lead 746 00:33:23,627 --> 00:33:25,544 to the oak island treasure vault... 747 00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:27,629 It is a dramatic end 748 00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:29,798 -of the beach with the boulders, isn't it? -Marty: It is. 749 00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:32,676 Narrator: ...Marty lagina and his son alex, 750 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,261 along with jack begley, 751 00:33:34,346 --> 00:33:36,596 metal detection expert gary drayton 752 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:38,598 and surveyor steve guptill, 753 00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:41,268 are searching for the second anchor stone 754 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:45,439 believed to be located along the island's northern shore. 755 00:33:45,524 --> 00:33:48,483 Steve g.: We're about, uh, 60 feet out. 756 00:33:48,569 --> 00:33:50,527 Jack: At least we're getting close. 757 00:34:02,249 --> 00:34:03,832 It's just in here, guys. 758 00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:16,303 there's the stone. 759 00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:19,681 -That's it? -Steve g.: That's it. 760 00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:21,683 -This is her north anchor. -Jack: Wow. 761 00:34:21,769 --> 00:34:22,768 -Look at that. -Alex: I mean, 762 00:34:22,853 --> 00:34:24,352 -that's pretty impressive. -Yeah. 763 00:34:24,438 --> 00:34:26,813 I think you guys should come take a look. 764 00:34:26,899 --> 00:34:29,399 It's a big rock. 765 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:32,944 Alex: What is that? 766 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:34,905 Steve g.: There is something 767 00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:37,491 that looks like a "t" or a cross on it at the top. 768 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:40,118 -Jack: Really? -But that looks like it could be natural. 769 00:34:40,204 --> 00:34:41,953 But I don't know. 770 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:43,413 Alex: Yeah. 771 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,249 What do you think, alex? Yes or no? 772 00:34:48,253 --> 00:34:49,920 Alex: I don't know. 773 00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,047 It looks like it's most likely natural, but it also does 774 00:34:52,132 --> 00:34:54,424 kind of look a little bit like the boat from the boat stone. 775 00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:57,803 -Oh, really? -It looks a bit like the-the boat. 776 00:34:57,888 --> 00:35:00,889 Narrator: A possible man-made carving? 777 00:35:00,974 --> 00:35:02,682 Similar to the one found 778 00:35:02,768 --> 00:35:05,227 on the mysterious so-called boat stone? 779 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,605 Located in westford, massachusetts, 780 00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:12,526 the boat stone is a 250-pound boulder 781 00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:14,277 which contains what many believe 782 00:35:14,321 --> 00:35:16,655 are 14th century carvings of a ship, 783 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:18,865 an ancient crossbow arrow 784 00:35:18,951 --> 00:35:22,953 and the numerals one, eight, four. 785 00:35:22,996 --> 00:35:25,914 Markus: The boat represents a costal range. 786 00:35:25,999 --> 00:35:27,582 Follow the coast. 787 00:35:27,668 --> 00:35:29,084 Narrator: Five years ago, 788 00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:31,670 oak island theorist robert markus 789 00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:34,548 proposed that the inscriptions on the boat stone 790 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:37,384 were actually the beginnings of a treasure map, 791 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:40,011 one that would lead to oak island. 792 00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:42,055 This is the starting point. 793 00:35:42,141 --> 00:35:44,182 I believe the templars had carved this. 794 00:35:44,268 --> 00:35:48,186 Narrator: According to robert markus's research, 795 00:35:48,272 --> 00:35:50,272 the carvings on the boat stone 796 00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:53,942 were made by the scottish templar knight henry sinclair, 797 00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:57,821 who many believe sailed to oak island in 1398 798 00:35:57,865 --> 00:36:00,031 to hide a vast treasure, 799 00:36:00,117 --> 00:36:02,325 which included the ark of the covenant 800 00:36:02,411 --> 00:36:06,204 and the golden menorah from king solomon's temple. 801 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,874 Is it possible that this boulder, 802 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,917 believed to represent one of the anchors 803 00:36:11,003 --> 00:36:13,753 on a possible 14th century templar map, 804 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,298 could also somehow be connected 805 00:36:16,383 --> 00:36:19,885 to the legendary voyage of prince henry sinclair? 806 00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:21,970 Well, this is the one erin said would be here? 807 00:36:22,055 --> 00:36:23,138 Steve g.: She did, yeah. 808 00:36:23,223 --> 00:36:24,598 She sees both of them in the lidar data. 809 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:26,433 Gary: Oh, so, two for two. 810 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:27,893 -Steve g.: She's two for two. -Yeah. 811 00:36:27,936 --> 00:36:31,354 If you compare this stone to the southern anchor rock, 812 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,899 they're-they're pretty much the same size and shape. 813 00:36:33,984 --> 00:36:37,027 -And the same sort of rock. -Yeah. 814 00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:39,905 Jack: It has a very similar break to the last one. 815 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:42,741 You know, the gouge that was taken out of it? 816 00:36:42,826 --> 00:36:44,409 -Marty: In size, I mean... -Alex: A little smaller. 817 00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:47,037 Marty: No, I'd say that's virtually identical. 818 00:36:47,122 --> 00:36:48,205 Yeah. 819 00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:49,581 I'm anxious to see 820 00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:51,791 what erin has in store for us next 821 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:53,627 and how finding these boulders 822 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:56,922 will help lead to the treasure chamber, 823 00:36:57,007 --> 00:36:58,715 'cause that's what it's all about. 824 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,842 Marty: The anchor stone. 825 00:37:00,928 --> 00:37:02,552 Look for the anchor stone. 826 00:37:02,638 --> 00:37:05,013 Yeah, I don't know how you'd ever find it, though. 827 00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:07,432 Gary: Right on the edge of the boulderless beach, as well. 828 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:09,100 Marty: Right. 829 00:37:09,186 --> 00:37:11,770 -If you were looking at this from sea... -Gary: Yeah. 830 00:37:11,855 --> 00:37:13,939 'cause you'd come in from open water, 831 00:37:14,024 --> 00:37:16,691 just come down here and hopefully see that rock. 832 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,610 And it shares something in common 833 00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:20,654 with the other stone at the side of the swamp. 834 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,572 It's in an area where you could 835 00:37:22,616 --> 00:37:25,450 tie to it if it was some kind of anchor rock. 836 00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:27,369 They're certainly similar size, 837 00:37:27,454 --> 00:37:29,454 shape and have similar markings on them, 838 00:37:29,539 --> 00:37:30,664 but there'd be no way to know this 839 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,374 from any other boulder on the beach. 840 00:37:32,459 --> 00:37:34,960 If this really is significant, there's got to be another way 841 00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:36,795 -to identify it. -Marty: Absolutely. 842 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,046 All right, well, this has been 843 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:39,673 -a successful mission. -Gary: Yeah. 844 00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:41,841 -But for now, I think we're done. -All right. 845 00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:44,386 -Jack: We found what we were looking for. -Alex: Right. 846 00:37:44,471 --> 00:37:46,179 Gary: Yeah, that is fantastic. 847 00:37:46,265 --> 00:37:50,850 Marty: Way to go, guys. 848 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:51,726 -Marty: Hey, gents. -Peter: Hey, guys. 849 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,561 We come with reports. 850 00:37:53,647 --> 00:37:54,896 Narrator: Following their search 851 00:37:54,982 --> 00:37:56,523 for the two anchor stones 852 00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:59,401 that could potentially lead to the exact location 853 00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:01,361 of the money pit treasure vault, 854 00:38:01,446 --> 00:38:05,073 marty lagina and his son alex, 855 00:38:05,117 --> 00:38:07,617 along with metal detection expert gary drayton 856 00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:09,577 and jack begley, 857 00:38:09,663 --> 00:38:12,205 arrive at the oak island interpretive centre, 858 00:38:12,291 --> 00:38:14,082 where rick lagina, doug crowell 859 00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:18,253 and peter fornetti are eager to hear their report. 860 00:38:18,338 --> 00:38:20,422 Peter: How'd your venture go? 861 00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:23,049 We did manage to locate both of the anchor stones. 862 00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:24,926 What we think are both of the anchor stones. 863 00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:26,720 I mean, how would you describe them? 864 00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:28,555 Well, I'm a skeptic, okay? 865 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,598 I mean, I keep coming back to the same point, 866 00:38:30,684 --> 00:38:33,852 but I expected them, if they're anchor stones, 867 00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:36,104 -to be massive. -I don't. 868 00:38:36,148 --> 00:38:37,522 And, well, they weren't. 869 00:38:37,607 --> 00:38:39,524 The first one, the west one, 870 00:38:39,609 --> 00:38:41,776 white granite sticking out. 871 00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:43,653 That was exactly where it should be. 872 00:38:43,697 --> 00:38:45,989 I thought that one was very intriguing, 873 00:38:46,033 --> 00:38:48,908 and it seemed like it could be an actual anchor stone 874 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,161 because it had the pockmark on top. 875 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:53,621 It was in a nice position to be seen from the harbor 876 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:55,540 if you pulled a ship in there. 877 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:58,376 -Yeah. -Rick: Well, look, I think it's great. 878 00:38:58,462 --> 00:39:01,129 I love the fact that you believe, 879 00:39:01,173 --> 00:39:03,131 on some level, that you found 880 00:39:03,216 --> 00:39:04,924 -her two anchor stones. -Oh, we definitely found it. 881 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:06,343 -We found two rocks. -Yeah. Mm-hmm. 882 00:39:06,386 --> 00:39:07,969 Marty: And... 883 00:39:08,055 --> 00:39:11,264 There was a tiny, little, finger-sized pocket 884 00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:13,016 in the one right where it should be. 885 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:14,351 Gary: Yeah. There was actually 886 00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:16,102 one on that one on the east side. 887 00:39:16,188 --> 00:39:17,896 Alex: Oh, there was, that's right. 888 00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:21,524 There was a possible marking on it. 889 00:39:21,568 --> 00:39:23,318 You've got to remember, you know, 890 00:39:23,403 --> 00:39:26,321 we're trying to context finding these things 891 00:39:26,406 --> 00:39:27,822 when they may have been 892 00:39:27,908 --> 00:39:30,367 put in position hundreds of years ago. 893 00:39:31,411 --> 00:39:34,496 If this is a grand conspiracy 894 00:39:34,581 --> 00:39:36,831 over centuries of time, 895 00:39:36,917 --> 00:39:40,919 knowledge of means is gonna be passed down generationally 896 00:39:41,004 --> 00:39:43,380 to-to keepers of the secret. 897 00:39:43,465 --> 00:39:44,589 Yes. 898 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:48,385 I'm thoroughly impressed by erin's background 899 00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:53,014 and her willingness to-to apply her experience 900 00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:55,809 to further an understanding 901 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,061 of the validity of zena's research. 902 00:39:58,146 --> 00:40:01,356 I find zena's research to be credible. 903 00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:02,774 I'm excited about it. 904 00:40:02,859 --> 00:40:05,360 It's gonna be highly relevant. I think 905 00:40:05,445 --> 00:40:08,613 that everyone is going to have a bit of an "aha" moment. 906 00:40:08,698 --> 00:40:11,574 Look, there's a lot of confirmation yet to be done. 907 00:40:12,619 --> 00:40:14,702 I have always said a theory, 908 00:40:14,788 --> 00:40:16,371 no matter how elegant, is but a theory 909 00:40:16,456 --> 00:40:17,789 until you hold something in your hands. 910 00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:19,541 -Right. -Alex: I agree with you 911 00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:21,126 that we don't have the full theory yet. 912 00:40:21,211 --> 00:40:24,003 And, so, we need to get this data together. 913 00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:26,339 Send it off to erin. See how it all fits in 914 00:40:26,425 --> 00:40:29,092 to this, you know, as she presents it to us. 915 00:40:29,136 --> 00:40:32,595 On that note, I do find it extremely interesting. 916 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:34,848 -Am I willing to keep an open mind and see the rest? -Yeah. 917 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:36,975 I'm not only willing. I'm excited to do it. 918 00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:39,561 And I think I speak for everybody here on that. 919 00:40:39,646 --> 00:40:43,106 Okay. Let's call it a day today, guys. 920 00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:47,235 Narrator: For brothers rick and marty lagina and their team, 921 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,281 finding evidence that could help prove the authenticity 922 00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:53,783 of a believed 14th century templar treasure map 923 00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:55,285 of oak island 924 00:40:55,328 --> 00:40:58,538 could soon lead to their greatest breakthrough yet 925 00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:03,042 in trying to solve a 225-year-old mystery. 926 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:06,337 It could also prove that the oak island mystery 927 00:41:06,423 --> 00:41:08,381 goes back much further 928 00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:12,510 and is much more profound than anyone ever knew. 929 00:41:12,596 --> 00:41:15,138 But as they push forward, 930 00:41:15,223 --> 00:41:18,141 will the search lead to an ingeniously hidden vault 931 00:41:18,226 --> 00:41:21,144 full of history's greatest treasures? 932 00:41:21,188 --> 00:41:24,439 Or will they discover that the island's secrets 933 00:41:24,524 --> 00:41:26,483 are more carefully guarded 934 00:41:26,526 --> 00:41:29,319 and potentially much more dangerous 935 00:41:29,404 --> 00:41:32,238 than they ever could have imagined? 936 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:36,701 Next time on the curse of oak island... 937 00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:38,328 Rick: That's impressive. 938 00:41:38,371 --> 00:41:40,246 Don't take a knife to a gunfight. 939 00:41:40,332 --> 00:41:43,166 Wow. I was not expecting that. 940 00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:48,880 Doesn't that line up with the old stone triangle? 941 00:41:48,965 --> 00:41:50,632 It runs along the same line. 942 00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:52,467 I would not have noticed that. 943 00:41:52,552 --> 00:41:54,177 Ah-ha-ha! 944 00:41:54,221 --> 00:41:55,970 -Yeah, look at that. -Ian: What the hell is that? 945 00:41:56,056 --> 00:41:57,805 That looks like a cannon, for god's sake. 946 00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:59,849 Holy . I didn't expect to see this. 947 00:41:59,893 --> 00:42:02,101 -Oh, geez. Look at that! -Whoa! 948 00:42:02,187 --> 00:42:03,853 Captioning provided by a+e networks 73779

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