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The u.S. Intelligence
community said in a statement
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that it is confident that
Russia's senior-most officials
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directed the hacking of emails
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from the Democratic
national committee
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to interfere with the u.S.
Election process.
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The key issue
isn't what Russia did.
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It's whether trump's team
colluded with Russia
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to influence the election.
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Moments ago, the appointment
of a special counsel
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to oversee
the FBI investigation
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of possible collusion
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between the trump campaign
and the Russians.
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Bob Mueller and his highly
conflicted team is going out
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on a witch hunt now going back
into the financials--
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that's a nice way
to say it.
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They're a bunch
of damn democrats.
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One of the biggest
political witch hunts
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in the history
of this country.
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I'm now talking about the
special counsel Robert Mueller.
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I've never been involved in
an investigation on either side
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that's more illegitimate
than this one.
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And I wonder,
where's the sense of justice
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on the part of Mueller,
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on the part of
the justice department?
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Was this the right move,
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or is this part
of a witch hunt?
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Well, I respect the move,
but the entire thing
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has been a witch hunt,
and, there is no collusion
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between certainly myself
and the Russians.
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Zero.
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Mr. President, in view
of, a new court ruling,
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Monica Lewinsky
may have to tes--
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appear before a grand jury.
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Under the circumstances,
do you stand by your
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previous denials
of any relationship with her,
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and, do you think that,
the special prosecutor
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has gone beyond the call
and is out to get you?
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Well...i think
modestly observant people
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are fully capable of drawing
their own conclusions.
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Can you talk to US, sir?
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No, I won't be making
any, statements.
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The question
of whether we are capable
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of holding the president
accountable
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is an enduring one.
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We need to be vigilant
about saying,
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"are there mechanisms in place
to ensure accountability,
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to ensure honesty,
lawful behavior?"
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Then holding the wielders
of power accountable
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when they cross the line.
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We've had filegate.
We've had travelgate.
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We've had so many gates,
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I think it's time
to show him the front door.
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What has happened
is, every issue
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becomes political.
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Every issue becomes a hammer
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on which to beat
the other side up with.
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The American people
sitting back
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and seeing
that kind of partisanship
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are left
in a state of confusion
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as to whether or not
what is being investigated
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is real, or is it just part
of the political game?
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I, Ronald Reagan...
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William Jefferson Clinton...
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Do solemnly swear...
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Do solemnly swear...
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...and will,
to the best of my ability...
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...preserve,
protect, and defend...
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...the constitution
of the United States.
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...potentially
damaging cloud is hanging
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over the white house
this morning.
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Kenneth starr
has been granted permission
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to expand
his investigation.
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At issue,
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whether Mr. Clinton
had a sexual relationship
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with a former
white house intern,
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Monica Lewinsky,
and whether he conspired
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to convince her to lie
about it under oath.
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Mr. Clinton gave
a sworn deposition under oath.
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He denied any affair.
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Monica Lewinsky
has reportedly turned over
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a dress that has
physical evidence
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to support her claim
that she had
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a sexual relationship
with the president.
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However, this has not yet...
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Kenneth starr
has gone directly
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to FBI director Louis freeh
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to ask assistance
from the FBI crime lab.
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Special counsel
Ken starr said,
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"I need an agent to come
to the white house
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with one of our prosecutors.
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We're gonna draw
Clinton's blood.
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We need it sent
to the FBI labs."
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Bob bittman,
one of the prosecutors
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and an agent,
turned up at the white house
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at nine or ten o'clock.
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Clinton was having dinner
in the dining room
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with cornel west,
a Princeton professor,
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and Clinton
is just furious.
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Clinton comes upstairs.
They draw his blood.
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It's very, very creepy
and tense.
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The level of mistrust
on all sides was so high
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that when Clinton got up
and went back downstairs,
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bittman says to the agent,
"hey, you know,
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I-I took my eye
off of that vial
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for just a half a second.
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I--are we sure he didn't
pull a switcheroo?"
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And the agent says,
"no, i-i...
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I-I was watching it
every second,
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and-and it's still warm.
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His blood is still warm."
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The president
was flabbergasted by it
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and certainly trying
to figure out,
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why was Mr. Starr,
who had been assigned
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to look at,
one set of, issues,
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now all of a sudden looking
into his, you know,
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personal affairs, as it were?
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Mr. President, what does
the oath mean to you?
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It's the president
of the United States.
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What does that oath
mean to you?
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Well, an oath means,
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you know, thou shalt not
tell a lie.
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Arkansas
is a much smaller society
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and environment
than you would expect.
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The main city, little rock,
is astonishingly small.
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I mean, when you first
fly in there,
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you can't believe
how dinky it is.
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And then once you get
out of the city,
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it's a very rural state.
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There are very few roads.
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And people
are doing logging everywhere.
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Like, in-in their--in their
neighborhood, they'll, like,
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log out to a lot down
the street to make money.
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But everybody who's in
the sort of upper middle class
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is connected.
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So the bankers,
the lawyers,
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the poultry magnates,
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and the judges, um, especially,
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they are all
very intimately involved
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in one another's business.
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It's a tiny society.
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Bill and Hillary Clinton
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kind of take Arkansas
by storm.
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They were la cr�me de la cr�me
of Arkansas,
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even at a very young age.
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Bill Clinton was governor
at early 30s.
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But they were also
making connections
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with some of these
Arkansas rogue characters,
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including Jim mcdougal
and Susan mcdougal;
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Vince foster, who was
Hillary's law partner;
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webb hubbell,
another law partner.
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They were part of Arkansas
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and lots of fun.
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Hillary and I
and Vince foster
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would go to lunch quite often,
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and became
very good friends.
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Bill loved to play golf,
and I loved to play golf,
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so we started
playing golf together.
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And they made friends all over
the country pretty quickly.
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And it was pretty clear
to everyone that at some point,
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he would want
to run for president.
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The next president of
the United States of America,
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senator Bill Clinton.
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When the Clintons
first came to the white house,
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there was a sense
that they were a little bit
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rough around the edges,
not sophisticated.
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They had a lot of people
around them that--
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living and doing business
in Arkansas--
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maybe didn't seem
like a problem.
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But Arkansas mores
are just different, um,
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than what plays in Washington.
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That got them entangled
very quickly
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in a lot of scandals.
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As their friend webb hubbell,
um, used to say,
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"it's not a conspiracy.
It's just Arkansas."
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Here they are.
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They just got elected
by a huge margin
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by the American people
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to the highest office
in the land.
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All of the adoration,
all of the acclaim,
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all of the great stories
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about what a hell
of a candidate they were,
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all of that is past history.
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Suddenly, as president
of the United States,
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they're finding that they're
getting picked at,
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in terms of--of issues
that they feel
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are not that important.
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Welcome to Washington.
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Any questions?
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Why was
the transportation officer--
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office fired?
Looks like a massacre.
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And, is the FBI,
um, investigating,
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and, did
the president do this?
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Travelgate is sort of
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a quintessentially Arkansas
kind of story.
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Bill Clinton's cousin
Catherine Cornelius
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was handling some
of the travel arrangements
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for the campaign itself.
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They got to the white house,
and they decided
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the white house travel office,
which arranges travel
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for reporters
accompanying the president--
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they wanted to just
take it over.
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The president
has spoken frequently
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about there being a crisis
of confidence in government.
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What does it say to that
if this woman who is a cousin
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of the president is appointed
to head the office?
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It is a distant cousin,
first of all, let me point out.
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Second of all...
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Well, it-it is, okay?
It is.
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And second of all, she--
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what's distant?
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Let's define our terms.
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I-I don't have
the exact family tree
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available right now,
but she...
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The travelgate
episode, in my view,
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was a tempest in the teapot.
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In the end,
the Clinton administration
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did its own little
investigation.
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There were mild reprimands
issued, and that was it.
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So this did not turn
into anything significant.
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But it was part of the constant
drumbeat in the early stages
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of the Clinton administration
of, you know,
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just minor corruption
that sort of fuel--
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primed the pump
for what came after it.
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To give a cloak
of legitimacy to the firing
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of these travel office
workers,
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the white house announced
there would be
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an FBI investigation.
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And it was very clear,
the FBI resented
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the, effort
by the white house
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to use the FBI
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to justify what they had done.
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I think it kind of set the tone
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for much that was
to come after.
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Nineteen ninety-three,
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the FBI's in bad shape.
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There was
the disastrous confrontation
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with the millennial
branch davidian cult
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down in waco, Texas.
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In the aftermath of waco,
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right-wing militias
and other right-wing groups
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suggested that our--
that law enforcement
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in the United States were...
Were jackbooted thugs.
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A standoff between
a man who is wanted by the FBI
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and a large number
of federal agents
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in a remote section
of Idaho.
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Two people have already died.
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During the standoff,
an FBI sharpshooter
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killed Weaver's wife.
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It's hard to overstate
the chaos
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of the initial months
of the Clinton presidency.
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They're really scrambling.
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It shows when Clinton
goes through one choice
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for Attorney General,
she has nanny problems.
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Second choice
for Attorney General,
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she has nanny problems.
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Third choice is Janet Reno,
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and she has no nanny problems
because she has no kids.
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I made the decision.
I'm accountable.
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The buck stops with me.
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And nobody ever accused me
of running from a decision
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that I made based on the best
information that I had.
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She was a tough
prosecutor from Miami.
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She had nothing
in her background
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that would indicate there was
any problem whatsoever
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in confirmation.
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And we thought
we had hit a home run.
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She came up and went through
a vetting process
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in a law firm
here in Washington.
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White house counsel
Bernie Nussbaum says,
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"so I guess y'all
are recommending her."
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And they go, "no,
we recommend that she--
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the president
not appoint her."
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And-and Bernie goes, "why?"
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And they said,
"she's too clean.
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There's gotta be something
here we haven't found."
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Washington wasn't ready
to have somebody
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who had nothing
in their background
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that they could find wrong.
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My hope is, my country
will have been strengthened
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and enriched by my service.
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The FBI director,
William sessions,
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had been correctly accused
of petty corruption.
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Reno helps stiffen
Clinton's spine
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to push out sessions.
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And the search for a successor
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is hurried.
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Today I am pleased to nominate
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a law enforcement legend
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to be the director of the FBI,
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judge Louis freeh.
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Judge freeh knows the FBI.
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He is a highly decorated
former agent and supervisor.
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He has investigated
and prosecuted
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some of the most notorious
and complex crimes of our time.
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- Judge freeh.
- Thank you very much.
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That's very nice.
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Freeh pops up
on everybody's chart
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as someone who really
looks good on paper.
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And he does.
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There wasn't a lot
of interviewing.
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There wasn't a lot of vetting.
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It's like,
"this guy looks good.
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Let's put him in."
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I was born in Jersey city,
and from about the age
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of my eldest son,
I wanted to be an FBI agent.
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Louis freeh's
a working-class guy,
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Roman catholic choirboy
growing up,
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and an altar boy in not only
training but in demeanor
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as an adult.
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He's young.
He's 43.
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A fresh face.
Highly qualified.
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Director freeh
was a so-called brick agent,
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meaning he started off
in life as an agent.
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He ultimately became
a prosecutor,
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a very well-known prosecutor.
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He ultimately became a judge.
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But in his DNA
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was the DNA
of a brick agent.
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And he brought
that perspective
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to his role as director.
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His worldview
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is about violations
of criminal law.
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He's not a politician.
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He's not a Washington insider.
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And he turned out to be
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a very bad fit inside
the Clinton administration.
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I, Louis j. Freeh...
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I, Louis j. Freeh...
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...do solemnly swear...
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...do solemnly swear...
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Director freeh
had a very tense relationship
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with the Clinton white house.
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I mean, they basically
didn't like each other.
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That's-that's for sure.
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To fully understand
the relationship between
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Louis freeh
and President Clinton,
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you have to understand
Louis freeh.
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He's one of
the straightest shooters
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that you ever want to meet.
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He's one of those people who,
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if he tells you something,
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you say, "okay.
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I'm betting my child's life
on this because
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it's coming from Louis."
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It's just--it's who he is.
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I don't care how much money
you threw at him,
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how much power
you threw at him.
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Louis would never
compromise his principles.
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I think people know
Bill Clinton.
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And in his first days
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as FBI director,
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things get off
on the wrong foot.
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Freeh learns immediately
that the FBI has
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a criminal investigation
going on
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pertaining to
real estate dealings
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in the state of Arkansas,
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while, Clinton
was governor.
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And he sees Clinton
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as a suspect
in a criminal case.
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In a nutshell, what
was the story of whitewater?
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I was afraid you were
gonna ask me that.
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Um, not--i mean, I knew
you were gonna ask me that.
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But it's not easily,
um, summarized.
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Can you tell me
in a couple of sentences
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what is whitewater?
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Wow.
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In Arkansas, Bill Clinton
had become friends
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with a gentleman
named Jim mcdougal.
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He was a very eccentric man,
by all accounts.
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And he began investing
in real estate deals.
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And the one that excited him
the most was this beautiful
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piece of property
up in the ozark mountains
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that came to be known
as whitewater.
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He wanted Clinton, who was
likely to be the next governor,
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to be part of this deal.
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The Clintons put
no money down.
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It was a small investment.
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But the whitewater development
was on the wrong side
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of the white river
to be successful,
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and it started
losing money quickly.
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Jim mcdougal hid that
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from the Clintons
and other investors,
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and so he went on
to buy a bank
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called Madison guaranty
savings & loan.
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Jim started using
some of the money
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of the savings & loan
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to pay off the interest
or the debt
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of the--of the whitewater.
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Mcdougal's savings & loan,
lost $60 million,
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and it was because
of sham dealings--
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real estate transactions.
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Did mcdougal improperly
channel money from the s&l
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to the whitewater development
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or to help pay then-governor
Clinton's campaign debts?
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And did mcdougal's
savings & loan
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escape close scrutiny
by the state
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because of his friendship
and partnership
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with governor Clinton?
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It was just so complicated,
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and there wasn't
much of substance
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in terms of the Clintons'
behavior in all of that.
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And so it had really
just fallen
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to a little Ember
in the coals.
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And then all of a sudden...
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...the apparent suicide
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of white house lawyer
Vince foster.
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Bits of information
gradually...
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The number two lawyer
at the white house,
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foster was one
of Bill Clinton's oldest
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and closest friends.
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His body was found last night.
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It appears he shot himself.
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Vince foster was our
partner at the Rose law firm.
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He came to Washington as the
deputy white house counsel.
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He was very close,
to both Hillary and myself,
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as we practiced law
together for 20 years,
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seeing each other every day.
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And tragically, he
committed suicide in July of--
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I think it was July
of our first year there.
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He went to fort Marcy park,
a civil war, park
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just across the potomac river,
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and pulled out a gun
and shot himself.
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It really knocked
the white house for a loop.
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And the Clintons, um,
and the people--their friends--
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it was devastating.
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Good afternoon.
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I have just met with
the white house staff,
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um, to basically talk with them
a little bit about the death
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of my friend of 42 years,
Vince foster.
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It is an immense personal loss
to-to me and to Hillary
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and to many of his
close friends here
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and a great loss to the
white house and to the country.
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This kind of took on
a little greater significance
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when it became clear
that Hillary Clinton
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had blamed Vince foster
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for the handling
of the travel office matter.
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00:21:20,208 --> 00:21:23,083
Hillary Clinton had snapped
at Vince foster,
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00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:26,041
indicated that he had
blown it in some way.
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And, um, this contributed
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to some serious, um, depression
he was having at the time.
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There was
a suicide note that was found.
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One of the things
he wrote was,
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"I'm not meant for this life
in Washington.
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Here, ruining people
is, considered sport."
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A file on
the whitewater development
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in which the Clintons
invested
447
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was taken
from Vincent foster's
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white house office
immediately after his suicide.
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The white house said it was
personal Clinton business
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and gave it to the president's
private lawyer.
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Foster had the files
because he handled
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President Clinton's
legal work
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involving an Arkansas
land development company.
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Vince foster's death,
that's when people started
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00:22:09,709 --> 00:22:11,250
saying, "wait a minute.
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He's the one who had
the whitewater documents.
457
00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:15,458
Wait a minute.
This was--
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the Clintons were involved
in a conspiracy."
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I want to tell my friends
and my colleagues now
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why I believe there's
a connection between
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Vince foster's death and
the whitewater investigation
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that's not being pursued.
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First of all, he died under
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very mysterious-mysterious
circumstances.
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His body was moved.
There's no question about it.
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And yet nobody accepts that.
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There were dark allegations
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that the Clintons had been
involved in his death.
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I contacted a ballistics expert
in California who stated
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that after passing
through a man's skull,
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a .38-caliber bullet should
travel no more than
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1,200 to 1,600 feet,
or about 300 to 500 yards.
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The FBI should have been able
to find that bullet.
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Dan Burton
was so fascinated
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00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:03,917
by these conspiracy theories,
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he shot a watermelon
in his backyard
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to sort of reenact
why Vince foster
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could not have killed himself
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in the way multiple
government investigations
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firmly concluded he did.
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I don't know whether
Vince foster,
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died of suicide
or not.
483
00:23:22,208 --> 00:23:24,375
I-I just don't know.
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But I'm convinced in my mind
that he did not die
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at fort Marcy park.
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I don't know whether
he committed suicide
487
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or what happened.
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The fact
that he killed himself
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is not in dispute
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and has never been in dispute
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among sane people.
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It's crazy.
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And-and can you imagine
how horrible that is
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for the people--
especially his family--
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to think that that happened
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or-or even hear those words?
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I mean, they-they're having
enough of a hard time.
498
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I'm still having enough
of a hard time
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00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:57,458
thinking about somebody
who committed suicide.
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You always think, "what could
I have done to change that?"
501
00:24:00,792 --> 00:24:02,166
And to hear all these
conspiracy theories
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00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:04,208
is just awful.
503
00:24:05,583 --> 00:24:08,208
This was horrifying
to bill and Hillary Clinton.
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They were grieving
at the same time
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00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:13,583
these dark conspiracies
were being floated.
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But it was connecting
all of these dots.
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00:24:15,834 --> 00:24:17,709
As one person said,
508
00:24:17,792 --> 00:24:20,417
people started connecting dots
that didn't connect.
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And that's really
what fanned whitewater
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and the whole investigation
back to life.
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Now leading congressional
Republicans are asking
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for independent investigations.
513
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,500
Seems to me that there ought
to be some independent review.
514
00:24:37,583 --> 00:24:40,333
Otherwise, I think the
democrats control the house.
515
00:24:40,417 --> 00:24:42,583
They control the senate.
They control the white house.
516
00:24:42,667 --> 00:24:44,250
The American people are gonna
start asking questions,
517
00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:45,959
"why can't we have the facts?"
518
00:24:46,041 --> 00:24:47,417
Mr. President,
do you support the idea
519
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:49,709
of naming a,
special prosecutor
520
00:24:49,792 --> 00:24:51,500
for the whitewat--
to investigate
521
00:24:51,583 --> 00:24:53,083
the whitewater affair?
522
00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:54,750
I have nothing to say
about that.
523
00:24:54,834 --> 00:24:56,500
I've-I've said that we would
turn the records over.
524
00:24:56,583 --> 00:24:58,083
There's nothing else for me
to say about that.
525
00:24:58,166 --> 00:25:00,458
What is your thinking now
on the public release
526
00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:02,667
of documents
and an independent counsel?
527
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:04,667
Well, first of all, my thinking
is that this is a situation
528
00:25:04,750 --> 00:25:06,792
without precedent
in American history.
529
00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:08,333
Drop a--you seemed
to drop a hint there--
530
00:25:08,417 --> 00:25:09,667
sorry, you got
the two questions, Jim.
531
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:10,959
- Okay.
- You had your two questions.
532
00:25:11,041 --> 00:25:12,458
All righty.
533
00:25:12,542 --> 00:25:14,583
I'm sorry you're not
interested in the truth.
534
00:25:14,667 --> 00:25:16,458
At that point,
we'd been through
535
00:25:16,542 --> 00:25:19,542
the throes of--
of Watergate,
536
00:25:19,625 --> 00:25:24,291
the throes of, irangate.
537
00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:28,500
And the congress,
had decided
538
00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:32,750
that it was important,
to be able to have
539
00:25:32,834 --> 00:25:36,583
a special counsel to conduct
540
00:25:36,667 --> 00:25:39,000
those kinds of investigations.
541
00:25:39,083 --> 00:25:41,125
And I remember
going in to the president
542
00:25:41,208 --> 00:25:45,000
and telling him that congress
had passed that legislation.
543
00:25:45,083 --> 00:25:47,709
I said, "look, I don't think
you wanna be viewed
544
00:25:47,792 --> 00:25:50,709
as rejecting
this kind of proposal.
545
00:25:50,792 --> 00:25:54,250
For you as president,
it would convey the impression
546
00:25:54,333 --> 00:25:56,750
that somehow you might
have something to hide."
547
00:25:56,834 --> 00:25:58,875
You could see
he was concerned.
548
00:25:58,959 --> 00:26:01,500
He said, "passing this
legislation could come back
549
00:26:01,583 --> 00:26:05,041
to not only haunt me but haunt
other presidents as well."
550
00:26:05,125 --> 00:26:08,083
But at the same time,
I think he also recognized
551
00:26:08,166 --> 00:26:09,917
that in the end, he really
didn't have much choice
552
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,667
but to sign
that legislation.
553
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:15,834
Do you think he ever
regretted that he signed it?
554
00:26:15,917 --> 00:26:18,500
I'm sure there were
moments where, you know,
555
00:26:18,583 --> 00:26:20,583
he might have--
he might have thought,
556
00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:22,291
"it would have been
a lot better,
557
00:26:22,375 --> 00:26:24,583
if I had not done it."
558
00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:26,500
Kenneth starr
arrived at the office
559
00:26:26,583 --> 00:26:29,000
of the independent counsel
at 3:30
560
00:26:29,083 --> 00:26:30,709
but had little to say.
561
00:26:30,792 --> 00:26:32,417
Can you talk to US, sir?
562
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:33,834
No, I won't be making
any, statement.
563
00:26:33,917 --> 00:26:35,500
He's a republican,
564
00:26:35,583 --> 00:26:36,834
having served
as solicitor general
565
00:26:36,917 --> 00:26:38,917
in the bush administration.
566
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,583
He's here to take
the whitewater investigation.
567
00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,750
I had a sense
that investigating
568
00:26:43,834 --> 00:26:45,542
the president
of the United States
569
00:26:45,625 --> 00:26:49,542
was not by its nature
a career-enhancing move
570
00:26:49,625 --> 00:26:52,333
and that it would likely,
571
00:26:52,417 --> 00:26:54,834
be, viewed,
572
00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:57,500
with, a lot of disdain,
573
00:26:57,583 --> 00:27:00,709
anger, rancor,
and so forth.
574
00:27:00,792 --> 00:27:03,542
"Hey, you're
investigating my guy.
575
00:27:03,625 --> 00:27:07,333
I voted for that person.
Why are you investigating him?
576
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,500
You must be a bad person."
577
00:27:09,583 --> 00:27:13,041
"You must be on a political
witch hunt."
578
00:27:13,125 --> 00:27:17,083
So I saw some of that
as I peered into the future
579
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:19,500
and speculating about
what it would be.
580
00:27:19,583 --> 00:27:23,834
I underestimated the intensity
of the controversy.
581
00:27:26,834 --> 00:27:28,125
President Bill Clinton
582
00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:30,792
and Ken starr
represented in many ways
583
00:27:30,875 --> 00:27:33,917
the reverse side
of the same coin.
584
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,208
On one sense, you had these two
people who were very similar.
585
00:27:37,291 --> 00:27:40,333
They were born within several
hundred miles of each other--
586
00:27:40,417 --> 00:27:43,542
Ken starr in Texas,
Bill Clinton in Arkansas--
587
00:27:43,625 --> 00:27:45,959
within ten days of each other.
588
00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:48,375
But Bill Clinton's life
in hot Springs,
589
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,667
where there was gambling
and people betting on ponies
590
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:55,959
and drinking, was really
the antithesis of the life
591
00:27:56,041 --> 00:27:57,792
that Ken starr grew up in:
592
00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:00,709
Fundamentalist Christian
environment
593
00:28:00,792 --> 00:28:04,583
in a little white house
planted in a cow pasture.
594
00:28:04,667 --> 00:28:06,875
Ken starr
worked on capitol hill
595
00:28:06,959 --> 00:28:10,458
for a conservative texan
member of congress
596
00:28:10,542 --> 00:28:13,000
and was the youngest person
597
00:28:13,083 --> 00:28:16,959
ever appointed to the u.S.
Court of appeals in D.C.
598
00:28:17,041 --> 00:28:19,834
So both of them
are self-made men
599
00:28:19,917 --> 00:28:21,542
who rise to the top
of their professions
600
00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,583
at a very young age,
601
00:28:23,667 --> 00:28:27,208
and the collision between them
is even more tragic
602
00:28:27,291 --> 00:28:30,458
when you see,
the-the train wreck
603
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,458
at the end of the story.
604
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,709
There are a number of persons,
605
00:28:35,792 --> 00:28:38,583
including most recently
Mr. Mcdougal,
606
00:28:38,667 --> 00:28:42,000
who have entered
into discussions
607
00:28:42,083 --> 00:28:44,625
with the government
in our ongoing effort
608
00:28:44,709 --> 00:28:46,667
to understand
all the facts.
609
00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:50,333
We have made very substantial
progress in this investigation,
610
00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:53,792
and at the same time, our
investigation is going forward.
611
00:28:53,875 --> 00:28:56,834
Starr and the others
were running the show.
612
00:28:56,917 --> 00:29:00,500
But freeh never balked about
613
00:29:00,583 --> 00:29:02,291
supplying as many agents
614
00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:04,875
and as much help
as starr asked for.
615
00:29:04,959 --> 00:29:08,041
Louis freeh
is all but measuring
616
00:29:08,125 --> 00:29:10,875
the commander in chief
for prison stripes.
617
00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:13,375
He cannot help but see
the president through
618
00:29:13,458 --> 00:29:15,500
any other prism.
619
00:29:15,583 --> 00:29:18,333
And frankly,
it distorts his judgment.
620
00:29:18,417 --> 00:29:21,083
He turns in
his white house pass.
621
00:29:21,166 --> 00:29:24,709
He refuses to set foot
in the white house.
622
00:29:24,792 --> 00:29:27,500
And he cuts off communication
623
00:29:27,583 --> 00:29:30,125
with the president
of the United States.
624
00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:34,959
Clinton definitely felt that
625
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,125
"that effing freeh,"
as he put it,
626
00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:39,166
was out to get him.
627
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:40,792
Now, you're the president
of the United States.
628
00:29:40,875 --> 00:29:43,875
You got a lot on your plate.
629
00:29:43,959 --> 00:29:46,041
The idea that you've got
a powerful member
630
00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:47,709
of your administration
631
00:29:47,792 --> 00:29:51,417
placing you in his gun sights
632
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,625
is pretty unpleasant
to contemplate.
633
00:29:56,417 --> 00:29:59,875
A top administration aide used
the word "scurrilous" today
634
00:29:59,959 --> 00:30:02,917
to describe charges made
in the conservative magazine
635
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,125
American spectator
that President Clinton,
636
00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:08,166
while governor of Arkansas,
used state troopers
637
00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:10,667
to help arrange dates for him
with a number of women.
638
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:14,875
One of the troopers
made some allegation
639
00:30:14,959 --> 00:30:18,834
to bringing a woman
named Paula
640
00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:22,250
to,
the governor's hotel room.
641
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,542
He presented his-hisself to me
642
00:30:24,625 --> 00:30:27,583
in a very unprofessional
manner,
643
00:30:27,667 --> 00:30:31,709
and I would call it
sexual harassment.
644
00:30:31,792 --> 00:30:35,917
The graphic details were that
Clinton proceeded to make
645
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,834
a number of sexual
advances to her,
646
00:30:38,917 --> 00:30:40,875
dropping his pants,
exposing himself,
647
00:30:40,959 --> 00:30:43,083
and asking for oral sex.
648
00:30:43,166 --> 00:30:47,542
It has always been about a man
who exposed himself.
649
00:30:47,625 --> 00:30:51,291
The next thing you know,
she files a civil lawsuit
650
00:30:51,375 --> 00:30:54,667
against the president
of the United States.
651
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:56,750
She made allegations,
652
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:59,125
that amounted to,
under federal law,
653
00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:02,458
an alleged violation
of her civil rights--
654
00:31:02,542 --> 00:31:05,333
call it sexual harassment--
655
00:31:05,417 --> 00:31:08,375
in-in the work--
in the workplace.
656
00:31:08,458 --> 00:31:12,583
It had no direct,
effect at the time,
657
00:31:12,667 --> 00:31:14,333
on our investigation.
658
00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:16,041
That was to come.
659
00:31:20,458 --> 00:31:25,000
What was the first time
that term "gate" was applied
660
00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:28,834
to some kind of political
scandal other than Watergate?
661
00:31:28,917 --> 00:31:32,375
Well, i--this is not a subject
I have researched.
662
00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,166
Gee, there were so many.
Koreagate.
663
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:35,583
There was a koreagate, I think.
664
00:31:35,667 --> 00:31:37,917
There was Iran-contragate.
665
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,166
How many gates
did the Clintons have?
666
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:42,375
Quite a few.
667
00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:44,500
My gosh.
Well, they had--
668
00:31:44,583 --> 00:31:46,834
they had travelgate.
669
00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:48,917
Monicagate.
Filegate.
670
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,667
You're testing my memory here.
671
00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:52,834
I don't think I'm the filegate
kind of person.
672
00:31:52,917 --> 00:31:55,291
What was filegate?
673
00:31:55,375 --> 00:31:57,750
All right, look, I am--
674
00:31:57,834 --> 00:31:59,375
filegate.
Travelgate.
675
00:31:59,458 --> 00:32:01,083
Whitewater investigation.
676
00:32:01,166 --> 00:32:03,834
None of that amounted
to absolutely anything.
677
00:32:03,917 --> 00:32:05,709
There were no crimes committed.
678
00:32:05,792 --> 00:32:07,917
There were, you know,
679
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,959
perhaps mistakes
of judgment made.
680
00:32:10,041 --> 00:32:13,625
But much of it was just
downright silly,
681
00:32:13,709 --> 00:32:15,709
a waste of taxpayers' money,
682
00:32:15,792 --> 00:32:18,041
and an exercise
in partisanship.
683
00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:21,709
Nothing ever gets pinned
on the Clintons.
684
00:32:21,792 --> 00:32:26,709
Nevertheless, there's
a continual hue and cry.
685
00:32:26,792 --> 00:32:31,125
The call of the bloodhounds
arises every morning
686
00:32:31,208 --> 00:32:33,250
with the idea that
there's something there.
687
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:35,500
There must be something there.
688
00:32:38,041 --> 00:32:40,375
There apparently was
a systematic influx
689
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:45,208
of illegal money in our
presidential race last year.
690
00:32:45,291 --> 00:32:48,542
We will be wanting to know
who knew about it,
691
00:32:48,625 --> 00:32:50,417
who should have known about it,
and whether or not
692
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,500
there was an attempt
to cover it up.
693
00:32:52,583 --> 00:32:55,625
There was
a broad accusation
694
00:32:55,709 --> 00:33:00,583
that the government of
the people's republic of China
695
00:33:00,667 --> 00:33:04,417
was attempting to buy influence
in the Clinton white house
696
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:07,625
by funneling cash into the
president's reelection campaign
697
00:33:07,709 --> 00:33:09,750
in 1996.
698
00:33:09,834 --> 00:33:12,625
And Bill Clinton
forcefully said,
699
00:33:12,709 --> 00:33:14,583
"there's nothing here."
700
00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:17,792
And Louis freeh...
701
00:33:17,875 --> 00:33:20,291
Said the white house was lying.
702
00:33:20,375 --> 00:33:22,542
Fund-raising practices
by the president
703
00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,792
involving foreign contributors
704
00:33:24,875 --> 00:33:27,500
are being looked into
by the justice department.
705
00:33:27,583 --> 00:33:30,750
Foreign influence
and particularly foreign money
706
00:33:30,834 --> 00:33:35,208
provides opportunity
for blackmail,
707
00:33:35,291 --> 00:33:39,083
avenues for national security
information
708
00:33:39,166 --> 00:33:41,333
to be sold abroad.
709
00:33:41,417 --> 00:33:44,542
So anytime that you have
serious allegations
710
00:33:44,625 --> 00:33:49,041
of direct foreign meddling
in an election,
711
00:33:49,125 --> 00:33:51,542
it should be taken
very seriously.
712
00:33:51,625 --> 00:33:53,875
My marching orders
from director freeh
713
00:33:53,959 --> 00:33:56,583
was to follow the evidence
wherever it led.
714
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:58,208
Now, one thing he did want--
715
00:33:58,291 --> 00:34:01,041
and he was very specific
about this--
716
00:34:01,125 --> 00:34:05,333
was that he wanted US to go
directly at what he considered
717
00:34:05,417 --> 00:34:08,125
the core group:
The president himself,
718
00:34:08,208 --> 00:34:10,041
the vice president,
leadership within
719
00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:12,917
the Democratic
national committee.
720
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,959
We learned through
721
00:34:15,041 --> 00:34:16,875
tracing the money
through grand jury subpoenas
722
00:34:16,959 --> 00:34:18,375
that these people
that contributed
723
00:34:18,458 --> 00:34:19,917
to the Democratic
national committee
724
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,333
were not the true donors.
725
00:34:21,417 --> 00:34:23,166
These donors were
reimbursed through cash.
726
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:24,792
If you went
to the source of the cash,
727
00:34:24,875 --> 00:34:26,583
you found that
that money came in
728
00:34:26,667 --> 00:34:29,166
typically through
foreign wires from overseas.
729
00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:31,500
You would inspect the checks,
730
00:34:31,583 --> 00:34:33,959
and they'd all be dated
the same day.
731
00:34:34,041 --> 00:34:36,333
They'd all have
the same amount.
732
00:34:36,417 --> 00:34:38,875
And they'd all be Asian names
that were associated
733
00:34:38,959 --> 00:34:40,667
with the checks.
734
00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:42,375
The one thing
they were all buying
735
00:34:42,458 --> 00:34:45,208
and the one common denominator
that was here
736
00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:46,667
was access.
737
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:48,875
Access equals ability
738
00:34:48,959 --> 00:34:51,667
to get what you want done
done.
739
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:53,166
I want access to the president.
740
00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:55,166
I want access
to the vice president.
741
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:58,625
I want access to the high
levels of people at the dnc.
742
00:34:59,834 --> 00:35:02,917
Charlie trie
operated a Chinese restaurant
743
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,875
in little rock and began
contributing heavily
744
00:35:05,959 --> 00:35:08,500
to the Democratic
national committee.
745
00:35:08,583 --> 00:35:11,250
Charlie trie
was in the white house,
746
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:15,959
and he had a bag of checks,
and he gave it to them.
747
00:35:16,041 --> 00:35:18,667
Bag of checks.
I mean...
748
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:21,208
I mean, really?
749
00:35:21,291 --> 00:35:24,208
John huang,
who was seeking
750
00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:26,542
Asian-American money
751
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:30,375
that had close ties
to the Chinese government
752
00:35:30,458 --> 00:35:34,583
and indeed Chinese military
intelligence as well.
753
00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:37,166
We knew who the bad guys were,
all right?
754
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:39,291
We started with
the-the bundlers, okay?
755
00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,709
And we could work up the chain.
756
00:35:41,792 --> 00:35:46,083
But unlike other cases,
we can only go so high.
757
00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:49,041
There was something called
the independent counsel act,
758
00:35:49,125 --> 00:35:51,375
and the independent counsel act
was the law of the land
759
00:35:51,458 --> 00:35:53,583
at the time.
It has since sunset.
760
00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:56,667
And it basically said that
the department of justice
761
00:35:56,750 --> 00:36:01,333
cannot investigate
certain covered persons.
762
00:36:01,417 --> 00:36:02,875
The president
of the United States,
763
00:36:02,959 --> 00:36:05,000
the vice president,
cabinet-level positions
764
00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:07,125
within any administration
765
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:10,041
were then considered
covered persons
766
00:36:10,125 --> 00:36:12,250
such that if a credible
and specific
767
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:16,083
allegation of criminal
misconduct was made,
768
00:36:16,166 --> 00:36:18,500
it would trigger
this requirement
769
00:36:18,583 --> 00:36:21,583
that the matter be investigated
by an independent counsel
770
00:36:21,667 --> 00:36:24,917
as opposed to
the department of justice,
771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,291
or the Attorney General.
772
00:36:27,375 --> 00:36:30,625
Louis freeh called forcefully
for the appointment
773
00:36:30,709 --> 00:36:32,792
of yet another
independent counsel
774
00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:36,333
to look into the Chinese
cash allegations.
775
00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:38,291
Looking at all
of the evidence,
776
00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:41,750
are there facts there that,
as you understand them,
777
00:36:41,834 --> 00:36:46,709
indicate that covered persons
may have violated federal laws?
778
00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:49,917
Under the facts and the law
as I understand them to be,
779
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,709
the matter, in my opinion,
should be referred
780
00:36:52,792 --> 00:36:54,542
to an independent counsel.
781
00:36:54,625 --> 00:36:56,125
Numerous allegations
have been made
782
00:36:56,208 --> 00:36:58,542
against
high government officials.
783
00:36:58,625 --> 00:37:01,041
We have reviewed every one
of them to see if there's
784
00:37:01,125 --> 00:37:04,375
specific and credible
information that a crime
785
00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:07,625
may have been committed
by a covered person.
786
00:37:07,709 --> 00:37:11,083
Today, following the law's
letter, I have decided
787
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:13,458
that the allegations
against President Clinton,
788
00:37:13,542 --> 00:37:15,500
vice president Gore,
789
00:37:15,583 --> 00:37:18,125
and former energy secretary
Hazel O'Leary
790
00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:21,083
do not at this time
warrant the appointment
791
00:37:21,166 --> 00:37:22,583
of an independent counsel.
792
00:37:24,417 --> 00:37:26,917
Do not at this time
warrant the appointment
793
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,625
of an independent counsel.
794
00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:31,750
There's no doubt in my mind
795
00:37:31,834 --> 00:37:34,291
that Janet Reno
was protecting the president.
796
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:37,083
One of the things that I found
very interesting--
797
00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:40,125
which I believe to this day--
is, if you,
798
00:37:40,208 --> 00:37:41,333
are going to make
appointments
799
00:37:41,417 --> 00:37:43,458
as president
of the United States,
800
00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,792
the most important appointment
that you will make
801
00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:48,375
for your cabinet or for
his admin--your administration
802
00:37:48,458 --> 00:37:51,417
is the Attorney General,
because if the Attorney General
803
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:53,291
will cover your back
and protect you,
804
00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:56,125
you can get away
with almost anything.
805
00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:59,583
We can prove that foreign money
was, placed into
806
00:37:59,667 --> 00:38:01,417
the, Democratic
national committee,
807
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:02,750
coffers.
808
00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:04,959
We can prove
that money was laundered
809
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:08,250
through the nuns conduit
violations of the law.
810
00:38:08,333 --> 00:38:11,375
Is he knowledgeable about
these things that went on
811
00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:14,125
all around him?
That's the question.
812
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:17,166
And it's easy for someone
to say, "I didn't know."
813
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:20,625
But a good investigator and
good prosecutor, in my opinion,
814
00:38:20,709 --> 00:38:24,208
in my experience, has to be
prepared to go further
815
00:38:24,291 --> 00:38:26,291
and to look at other evidence.
816
00:38:26,375 --> 00:38:30,166
There are parallels
between what happened in '96
817
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:33,834
and what happened in 2016.
818
00:38:33,917 --> 00:38:38,834
They are both instances
of a foreign adversary,
819
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:43,792
um, making efforts
to influence our election.
820
00:38:43,875 --> 00:38:46,750
But, um, you know,
clearly the Russian effort
821
00:38:46,834 --> 00:38:50,417
in 2016 was,
822
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,583
much broader,
823
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:57,166
much more aggressive,
much more encompassing,
824
00:38:57,250 --> 00:39:00,083
and, in many ways
much more diabolical
825
00:39:00,166 --> 00:39:04,208
than what took place in '96.
826
00:39:04,291 --> 00:39:07,333
Some people ended up
being found criminally liable
827
00:39:07,417 --> 00:39:10,583
but nobody at a senior level
that would have triggered,
828
00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:13,709
and tripped the
independent counsel statute.
829
00:39:13,792 --> 00:39:16,041
To freeh, it didn't really
matter what the facts were.
830
00:39:16,125 --> 00:39:19,417
It was always, substitute
your own ad hoc judgment,
831
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,667
for what, is right,
832
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:24,375
and-and as I believe,
833
00:39:24,458 --> 00:39:26,417
rightness turned
into righteousness
834
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,667
which turned into arrogance.
835
00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,875
I don't think there was anybody
in law enforcement that--
836
00:39:30,959 --> 00:39:35,250
that was working on this
that felt,
837
00:39:35,333 --> 00:39:37,000
"hey, there's no crime here.
838
00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:39,166
This is all okay.
839
00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:41,208
This is just 'politics.'"
840
00:39:41,291 --> 00:39:42,709
we would hit
that glass ceiling,
841
00:39:42,792 --> 00:39:45,041
which was
the independent counsel act.
842
00:39:45,125 --> 00:39:46,417
Okay.
843
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,291
We-we can't go any further.
844
00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:50,667
We can't issue a subpoena
that--to that person
845
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:52,875
because he or she's
a covered person.
846
00:39:52,959 --> 00:39:54,667
We can't issue a subpoena
to that person
847
00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:56,709
because he or she's
a covered person.
848
00:39:56,792 --> 00:39:59,500
Or it's too close a call.
849
00:39:59,583 --> 00:40:02,291
It was clear that there
was there, there.
850
00:40:02,375 --> 00:40:04,000
There was there, there.
851
00:40:04,083 --> 00:40:07,000
There was something going on.
852
00:40:14,375 --> 00:40:15,458
The whitewater investigation
853
00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:19,709
was stalling out by 1997.
854
00:40:21,959 --> 00:40:24,875
In the view
of the starr prosecutors,
855
00:40:24,959 --> 00:40:27,792
it was because people
like Jim mcdougal
856
00:40:27,875 --> 00:40:30,417
and webb hubbell were
refusing to cooperate.
857
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:31,959
In the view
of the Clinton people,
858
00:40:32,041 --> 00:40:34,041
it was because
there was no evidence
859
00:40:34,125 --> 00:40:36,792
and the starr prosecutors
just had to give up.
860
00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:41,583
The Clinton white house
861
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:43,542
was feeling very much
862
00:40:43,625 --> 00:40:46,583
like they were out
of the woods with Ken starr
863
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:50,208
and feeling like
they had, defeated him.
864
00:41:15,208 --> 00:41:16,917
Move back!
Move back!
865
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
New allegations
that President Clinton
866
00:41:19,083 --> 00:41:21,417
had an affair with a former
white house intern and then...
867
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:23,542
Just who is
Monica Lewinsky?
868
00:41:23,625 --> 00:41:25,083
CBS news...
-A whirlpool
869
00:41:25,166 --> 00:41:26,375
of charges, reports,
and rumors
870
00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:28,041
has kept on spinning.
871
00:41:28,125 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaking French
872
00:41:32,041 --> 00:41:33,500
then there's
the dress, which could have
873
00:41:33,583 --> 00:41:35,208
possible DNA evidence.
Lewinsky left...
874
00:41:35,291 --> 00:41:36,792
Monica!
875
00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,333
Monica, look over here!
876
00:41:38,417 --> 00:41:40,041
The name
Monica Lewinsky
877
00:41:40,125 --> 00:41:44,417
was utterly unknown to US
until January of 1998
878
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,333
when information came to US
879
00:41:47,417 --> 00:41:49,542
that there might very well be,
880
00:41:49,625 --> 00:41:54,417
an activity underway
to bring about
881
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,000
perjury
and subornation of perjury
882
00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:58,667
by the president
of the United States
883
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,041
in the Paula Corbin Jones
litigation.
884
00:42:02,125 --> 00:42:04,792
In sworn testimony
that Mr. Clinton gave
885
00:42:04,875 --> 00:42:07,500
in the Paula Jones
sexual harassment suit,
886
00:42:07,583 --> 00:42:10,792
Mr. Clinton says he never
had sexual relations
887
00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,875
with Monica Lewinsky,
saw her only...
888
00:42:12,959 --> 00:42:15,792
The starr team felt
that they had been thwarted
889
00:42:15,875 --> 00:42:18,625
at every turn by the Clintons.
890
00:42:18,709 --> 00:42:21,792
The Monica Lewinsky matter
seemed like the one chance
891
00:42:21,875 --> 00:42:25,542
to pin it down
that he had openly lied
892
00:42:25,625 --> 00:42:28,041
in a federal case.
893
00:42:32,125 --> 00:42:34,917
Monica Lewinsky
story broke.
894
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,834
My concern immediately was
that this is gonna overshadow
895
00:42:38,917 --> 00:42:41,458
the campaign finance scandal.
896
00:42:41,542 --> 00:42:43,667
And of course it did.
897
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:46,709
And I think that's
very unfortunate because
898
00:42:46,792 --> 00:42:50,041
what was brushed aside,
I think, was more important
899
00:42:50,125 --> 00:42:53,750
than the Monica Lewinsky
scandal.
900
00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:57,250
I think it's a factor that
the underlying, activity
901
00:42:57,333 --> 00:43:01,333
was not, um, a crime or
wasn't alleged to be a crime.
902
00:43:01,417 --> 00:43:04,709
But the underlying activity
was alleged to be a violation
903
00:43:04,792 --> 00:43:07,667
of the federal and civil rights
of a human being.
904
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:12,000
And let's--let's get rid
of those laws.
905
00:43:12,083 --> 00:43:15,709
Let's get rid of litigation
as a mechanism for alleged
906
00:43:15,792 --> 00:43:18,166
victims of sexual harassment
in the workplace--
907
00:43:18,250 --> 00:43:20,458
which is what that
was all about--
908
00:43:20,542 --> 00:43:22,792
and just say, "well, we don't
wanna handle it that way,
909
00:43:22,875 --> 00:43:24,792
and we don't wanna have
to put people under oath,"
910
00:43:24,875 --> 00:43:28,709
or, "we don't want people
to-to be, embarrassed."
911
00:43:28,792 --> 00:43:30,709
This was a serious context
912
00:43:30,792 --> 00:43:35,166
of a duly authorized,
lawsuit
913
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:38,458
involving the civil rights
of a human being.
914
00:43:38,542 --> 00:43:41,875
I wanna say one thing
to the American people.
915
00:43:41,959 --> 00:43:45,166
I want you to listen to me.
I'm gonna say this again.
916
00:43:45,250 --> 00:43:50,166
I did not have sexual relations
with that woman,
917
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:51,792
miss Lewinsky.
918
00:43:51,875 --> 00:43:55,625
I never told anybody to lie,
not a single time.
919
00:43:55,709 --> 00:43:59,208
Never.
These allegations are false.
920
00:43:59,291 --> 00:44:02,333
And I need to go back to work
for the American people.
921
00:44:02,417 --> 00:44:03,417
Thank you.
922
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,542
My reactions through
that entire, um, saga,
923
00:44:13,625 --> 00:44:17,583
including his testimony, um,
924
00:44:17,667 --> 00:44:21,750
on that afternoon and then
watching him that evening
925
00:44:21,834 --> 00:44:25,041
was one of profound
disappointment.
926
00:44:25,125 --> 00:44:28,208
Can't we come clean?
927
00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:30,208
Can't this get over?
928
00:44:30,291 --> 00:44:32,834
Does this have to continue,
929
00:44:32,917 --> 00:44:37,125
this--what I'm calling
this self-inflicted, wound?
930
00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:39,417
Can't the nation be spared?
931
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:42,291
It was as if you were
on this very...
932
00:44:42,375 --> 00:44:46,583
Unpleasant journey
933
00:44:46,667 --> 00:44:50,125
and you just
want it to stop.
934
00:44:50,208 --> 00:44:52,417
And it's so easy
for it to stop.
935
00:44:54,041 --> 00:44:55,834
Just do the right thing.
936
00:44:55,917 --> 00:44:58,125
Straighten it out.
937
00:44:58,208 --> 00:45:00,917
Better late than never.
938
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,792
As you know,
in a deposition in January,
939
00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:06,208
I was asked questions
about my relationship
940
00:45:06,291 --> 00:45:08,125
with Monica Lewinsky.
941
00:45:08,208 --> 00:45:10,583
While my answers
were legally accurate,
942
00:45:10,667 --> 00:45:13,917
I did not volunteer
information.
943
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,333
Indeed, I did have a
relationship with miss Lewinsky
944
00:45:16,417 --> 00:45:18,458
that was not appropriate.
945
00:45:18,542 --> 00:45:20,917
In fact, it was wrong.
946
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,834
I know that my public comments
and my silence
947
00:45:23,917 --> 00:45:27,375
about this matter
gave a false impression.
948
00:45:27,458 --> 00:45:29,625
I misled people,
949
00:45:29,709 --> 00:45:32,333
including even my wife.
950
00:45:32,417 --> 00:45:35,583
I think that that
was a very revealing moment
951
00:45:35,667 --> 00:45:37,583
when the public could see
952
00:45:37,667 --> 00:45:40,166
this guy is a liar.
953
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:42,583
I mean, he lied to me.
954
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:47,250
Governor, are you ready
to take the oath?
955
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:49,250
- I am.
- Will you please raise...
956
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:52,291
I can only tell you
I was motivated by a desire
957
00:45:52,375 --> 00:45:54,792
to protect myself
from the embarrassment
958
00:45:54,875 --> 00:45:57,166
of my own conduct.
959
00:45:57,250 --> 00:45:59,041
The fact that these questions
were being asked
960
00:45:59,125 --> 00:46:01,625
in a politically inspired
lawsuit--
961
00:46:01,709 --> 00:46:03,375
which has since
been dismissed--
962
00:46:03,458 --> 00:46:06,333
was a consideration too.
963
00:46:06,417 --> 00:46:09,166
I think, as a general rule,
964
00:46:09,250 --> 00:46:12,291
the American public
would like to be able to trust
965
00:46:12,375 --> 00:46:14,542
what their presidents
have to say.
966
00:46:14,625 --> 00:46:18,291
There will be times of crises,
and if our government
967
00:46:18,375 --> 00:46:20,792
or at least the head
of our government
968
00:46:20,875 --> 00:46:23,542
has a track record
of continually saying
969
00:46:23,625 --> 00:46:28,375
false things, um,
then we don't know when,
970
00:46:28,458 --> 00:46:33,250
if at all,
we can trust him or her.
971
00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:35,500
...preserve, protect,
and defend
972
00:46:35,583 --> 00:46:37,667
the constitution
of the United States...
973
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:39,834
...preserve, protect,
and defend
974
00:46:39,917 --> 00:46:41,875
the constitution
of the United States...
975
00:46:41,959 --> 00:46:43,375
...so help me god.
976
00:46:43,458 --> 00:46:45,125
...so help me god.
977
00:46:45,208 --> 00:46:47,542
Congratulations.
978
00:46:47,625 --> 00:46:50,333
I had real
and serious concerns
979
00:46:50,417 --> 00:46:53,500
about an independent counsel
investigation
980
00:46:53,583 --> 00:46:55,750
that began with
private business dealings
981
00:46:55,834 --> 00:46:59,375
20 years ago,
then into my private life.
982
00:46:59,458 --> 00:47:03,417
The truth will come out...
One way or the other.
983
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:04,917
You can try to hide it.
984
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,417
You can try
to play games with it.
985
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:08,709
You can try to avoid it.
986
00:47:08,792 --> 00:47:12,709
But in the end,
the truth is gonna come out.
987
00:47:12,792 --> 00:47:16,208
Better that it be done
on your terms,
988
00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:20,208
in speaking honestly,
to the people who elected you
989
00:47:20,291 --> 00:47:25,250
than to have, a special
prosecutor or an indictment
990
00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:29,667
or an impeachment,
do that for you.
991
00:47:30,667 --> 00:47:32,792
This is where starr's
possible grounds
992
00:47:32,875 --> 00:47:34,583
for impeachment begin.
993
00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:36,875
There are 11 counts.
994
00:47:36,959 --> 00:47:39,250
Count one, that the president
lied under oath
995
00:47:39,333 --> 00:47:42,375
in the Jones case when he
denied his sexual affair.
996
00:47:42,458 --> 00:47:44,792
Two, he lied under oath
to the grand jury
997
00:47:44,875 --> 00:47:46,583
about his sexual relationship.
998
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:48,291
The facts
were the facts,
999
00:47:48,375 --> 00:47:50,709
and as I said to
the house of representatives,
1000
00:47:50,792 --> 00:47:52,625
to the judiciary committee,
1001
00:47:52,709 --> 00:47:55,250
"this is yours.
This is what we've found.
1002
00:47:55,333 --> 00:47:58,959
My duty as a law officer is
to bring this to your attention
1003
00:47:59,041 --> 00:48:02,375
because there's substantial
and credible information
1004
00:48:02,458 --> 00:48:06,041
that an impeachable offense
may have been, committed.
1005
00:48:08,208 --> 00:48:10,917
The unfinished business
is further consideration
1006
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,500
of house resolution 611,
1007
00:48:13,583 --> 00:48:15,792
which the clerk
will report by title.
1008
00:48:15,875 --> 00:48:18,875
A resolution impeaching
William Jefferson Clinton,
1009
00:48:18,959 --> 00:48:20,917
president of the United States,
1010
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,625
for high crimes
and misdemeanors.
1011
00:48:23,709 --> 00:48:28,500
Today Republicans with
a small handful of democrats
1012
00:48:28,583 --> 00:48:32,208
will vote to impeach
President Clinton. Why?
1013
00:48:32,291 --> 00:48:36,041
We believe he assaulted
our legal system in every way.
1014
00:48:36,125 --> 00:48:38,041
Let it be said that
any president who cheats
1015
00:48:38,125 --> 00:48:40,750
our institutions
shall be impeached.
1016
00:48:40,834 --> 00:48:42,792
But to
the president, I would say
1017
00:48:42,875 --> 00:48:45,375
you, sir, may resign your post.
1018
00:48:49,959 --> 00:48:53,333
It is our laws--the criminal
code of the United States
1019
00:48:53,417 --> 00:48:56,083
of america--which,
based on exhaustive evidence,
1020
00:48:56,166 --> 00:48:58,000
this president has violated
1021
00:48:58,083 --> 00:49:00,417
pursuant to a pattern
of activity.
1022
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,625
To me, there is no doubt
that the impeachment
1023
00:49:03,709 --> 00:49:05,291
of William Jefferson Clinton,
1024
00:49:05,375 --> 00:49:08,375
was helpful
to our national health.
1025
00:49:08,458 --> 00:49:11,875
It stood very clearly
for the proposition
1026
00:49:11,959 --> 00:49:14,375
that there is such a thing
as rule of law,
1027
00:49:14,458 --> 00:49:16,625
that there is
1028
00:49:16,709 --> 00:49:19,667
a standard below which
1029
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:22,709
presidents
shall not be allowed,
1030
00:49:22,792 --> 00:49:26,250
at least without
paying a price for it to act.
1031
00:49:26,333 --> 00:49:29,625
The senate meets today
to conclude this trial
1032
00:49:29,709 --> 00:49:31,667
by voting on the articles
of impeachment,
1033
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:33,792
thereby fulfilling
its obligation
1034
00:49:33,834 --> 00:49:35,125
under the constitution.
1035
00:49:35,208 --> 00:49:37,041
Article one.
1036
00:49:37,125 --> 00:49:40,250
In his conduct while
president of the United States,
1037
00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:42,875
William Jefferson Clinton,
in violation
1038
00:49:42,959 --> 00:49:45,500
of his constitutional oath
faithfully to execute
1039
00:49:45,583 --> 00:49:48,041
the office of president
of the United States,
1040
00:49:48,125 --> 00:49:50,166
has willfully corrupted
and manipulated
1041
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:52,750
the judicial process
of the United States
1042
00:49:52,834 --> 00:49:55,250
for his personal gain
and exoneration.
1043
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:57,542
Senators, how say you?
1044
00:49:57,625 --> 00:50:00,583
Is the respondent,
William Jefferson Clinton,
1045
00:50:00,667 --> 00:50:02,458
guilty or not guilty?
1046
00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:04,583
Mr. Abraham.
-Guilty.
1047
00:50:04,667 --> 00:50:06,875
Mr. Abraham, guilty.
1048
00:50:06,959 --> 00:50:10,500
It's very dangerous
when either party
1049
00:50:10,583 --> 00:50:12,792
uses impeachment proceedings
1050
00:50:12,875 --> 00:50:16,291
to try to push a political end,
1051
00:50:16,375 --> 00:50:19,333
to try to push a palace coup.
1052
00:50:19,417 --> 00:50:23,291
On the other hand,
it's equally dangerous
1053
00:50:23,375 --> 00:50:27,917
if either political party
refuses to stand up
1054
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,166
to the facts
if there is evidence
1055
00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:33,959
of some high crime
or misdemeanor
1056
00:50:34,041 --> 00:50:36,542
that threatened
the well-being of the state
1057
00:50:36,625 --> 00:50:40,125
that requires a president's
removal from office.
1058
00:50:40,208 --> 00:50:42,750
Either scenario
1059
00:50:42,834 --> 00:50:45,792
is, a failure
1060
00:50:45,875 --> 00:50:48,917
to fulfill
the constitutional role
1061
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,917
that one has
as elected officials.
1062
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,500
Mr. Allard, guilty.
1063
00:50:54,583 --> 00:50:56,792
Mr. Grassley, guilty.
1064
00:50:56,875 --> 00:50:59,500
Mr. Domenici, guilty.
1065
00:50:59,583 --> 00:51:01,083
Mr. Allard...
1066
00:51:01,166 --> 00:51:02,667
If perjury
was committed,
1067
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:05,375
if there was a statement
that turns out to be
1068
00:51:05,458 --> 00:51:08,166
provably untrue later,
then I think the president
1069
00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:10,250
has to be treated
like everyone else.
1070
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:11,750
'Cause I think,
under the criminal law,
1071
00:51:11,834 --> 00:51:13,458
everybody should be
treated the same.
1072
00:51:13,542 --> 00:51:17,792
If the president
is asked to testify,
1073
00:51:17,875 --> 00:51:21,125
subpoenaed to testify
before a grand jury,
1074
00:51:21,208 --> 00:51:24,625
and says,
"no, not gonna do it"?
1075
00:51:24,709 --> 00:51:26,083
You gotta do it.
1076
00:51:26,166 --> 00:51:27,667
You don't have
a choice about that.
1077
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:29,792
We've gone through this
terrible four-year--
1078
00:51:29,875 --> 00:51:32,125
this last four-year cycle
with Monica
1079
00:51:32,208 --> 00:51:35,000
and the-the worst of all,
the Linda tripps of the world,
1080
00:51:35,083 --> 00:51:38,000
and I-I just--
I just hate what I see.
1081
00:51:38,083 --> 00:51:39,709
I hate what it represents
for the country.
1082
00:51:39,792 --> 00:51:41,166
We've been a--
been a laughingstock
1083
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:42,375
all over the world.
1084
00:51:42,458 --> 00:51:44,000
And you're talking about lies
1085
00:51:44,083 --> 00:51:45,417
where you look into a camera
and you say,
1086
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,542
"I did not have sex
with blah, blah, blah."
1087
00:51:47,625 --> 00:51:50,041
And it's--what's happened
in the last three or four years
1088
00:51:50,125 --> 00:51:52,291
is truly disgraceful.
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