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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,645 --> 00:00:23,693 I played some weird games with girlfriends. 2 00:00:23,725 --> 00:00:24,909 We were just... 3 00:00:24,941 --> 00:00:27,420 and I didn't know that was sexual. 4 00:00:27,453 --> 00:00:29,628 I didn't know what sex was, to be honest. 5 00:00:29,653 --> 00:00:32,740 We had five weeks of sex education at private school, 6 00:00:34,101 --> 00:00:35,812 I still didn't know I had a vagina. 7 00:00:39,145 --> 00:00:41,064 He was in a punk rock band 8 00:00:41,096 --> 00:00:42,935 and I had the biggest crush on him. 9 00:00:42,967 --> 00:00:44,615 I was with him, like, off and on 10 00:00:44,664 --> 00:00:45,895 for two or three years. 11 00:00:45,944 --> 00:00:47,465 I thought he was the greatest thing in the world. 12 00:00:47,543 --> 00:00:50,140 I kept asking him to marry me. 13 00:00:50,165 --> 00:00:52,648 I look back and I go, what the heck, you know? 14 00:00:52,693 --> 00:00:54,019 Like, I was 15 years old. 15 00:00:54,053 --> 00:00:57,058 Like, what was I thinking about marriage already for? 16 00:00:57,916 --> 00:01:01,002 I've been doing it since I was 13. 17 00:01:01,034 --> 00:01:03,050 I didn't know how sex really happened. 18 00:01:03,083 --> 00:01:04,922 I only saw, like, Blue Lagoon 19 00:01:04,971 --> 00:01:07,003 and I saw them, like, get on top of each other. 20 00:01:07,051 --> 00:01:08,734 So when I had my boyfriend 21 00:01:08,759 --> 00:01:10,278 and he tried to have sex with me, 22 00:01:10,312 --> 00:01:11,958 and I was, like, you're doing it wrong. 23 00:01:11,991 --> 00:01:13,430 And he's, like, how do you think people have sex? 24 00:01:13,463 --> 00:01:14,711 And I was, like, 25 00:01:14,743 --> 00:01:16,182 you just get on top of me and rub like that. 26 00:01:16,199 --> 00:01:18,182 He goes, no, it goes inside. 27 00:01:18,215 --> 00:01:19,382 And I was like, no, it hurts. 28 00:01:19,399 --> 00:01:21,072 And he said, okay, turn over 29 00:01:21,097 --> 00:01:24,137 and we just did anal for, like, a year and a half. 30 00:02:11,229 --> 00:02:13,788 ? Are we under attack 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,288 ? In this zone? 32 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,047 ? Tell me your name 33 00:02:23,686 --> 00:02:25,765 ? Is it for fame? 34 00:02:59,194 --> 00:03:01,705 ? Are we under attack 35 00:03:03,514 --> 00:03:05,545 ? In this zone? 36 00:03:07,738 --> 00:03:09,626 ? Tell me your name 37 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:14,179 ? Visual frame 38 00:03:15,528 --> 00:03:17,928 ? Are we under attack 39 00:03:19,737 --> 00:03:22,377 ? In this zone? 40 00:03:22,409 --> 00:03:25,096 This is not a story about pornography. 41 00:03:25,129 --> 00:03:27,816 This is a story about women, 42 00:03:27,849 --> 00:03:31,256 their dreams, their desires, and their lives. 43 00:03:33,917 --> 00:03:36,652 I had an idea for my third fine-art book 44 00:03:36,685 --> 00:03:39,324 to take images of the most sexualized women on the planet 45 00:03:39,357 --> 00:03:41,915 and portray them in a totally different light, 46 00:03:42,112 --> 00:03:44,142 strip away the porn-star mask, 47 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:47,130 allowing for their true essence to shine through, 48 00:03:47,318 --> 00:03:49,877 as the exaggerated image of a porn star 49 00:03:49,894 --> 00:03:52,005 has stuck with us for so long. 50 00:03:52,054 --> 00:03:53,445 As an artist, I felt the need 51 00:03:53,494 --> 00:03:55,765 to change the way we view these women visually, 52 00:03:55,798 --> 00:03:57,045 yet I was unaware 53 00:03:57,077 --> 00:03:59,925 of the bigger picture that would unfold. 54 00:04:02,374 --> 00:04:03,829 I called my friend Mike Moz, 55 00:04:03,862 --> 00:04:05,685 a veteran in the adult entertainment world, 56 00:04:05,717 --> 00:04:07,013 and asked him to put together 57 00:04:07,047 --> 00:04:09,716 a group of some of the most successful names 58 00:04:09,734 --> 00:04:10,886 in the business. 59 00:04:11,427 --> 00:04:13,250 Yet I soon realized that many people around me 60 00:04:13,267 --> 00:04:15,538 started to ask why would I immerse myself 61 00:04:15,587 --> 00:04:16,898 in the world of pornography, 62 00:04:17,474 --> 00:04:19,170 which is still perceived by so many 63 00:04:19,203 --> 00:04:22,434 that know nothing about the business as taboo. 64 00:04:22,724 --> 00:04:25,475 It was this reaction that opened my eyes, 65 00:04:25,524 --> 00:04:27,955 taking this project to a whole new level, 66 00:04:27,988 --> 00:04:29,635 raising many questions in my mind 67 00:04:29,684 --> 00:04:30,995 as to why porn stars 68 00:04:31,027 --> 00:04:32,835 are looked down upon in our society, 69 00:04:33,052 --> 00:04:36,811 yet we watch their movies for our own sexual pleasure, 70 00:04:36,844 --> 00:04:38,363 and the fact that we use sex 71 00:04:38,396 --> 00:04:41,883 as our ultimate power tool in many areas of our lives. 72 00:04:42,848 --> 00:04:45,248 So I took on a house in the Hollywood Hills 73 00:04:45,265 --> 00:04:47,424 and brought my creative team together, 74 00:04:47,457 --> 00:04:49,984 invited 16 women currently in the business 75 00:04:50,017 --> 00:04:51,424 to pose for my art book 76 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:53,504 whilst filming the making of the process 77 00:04:53,537 --> 00:04:54,896 for a documentary, 78 00:04:54,945 --> 00:04:57,536 and from this Aroused was born. 79 00:04:57,569 --> 00:05:00,127 During the three hours I was going to spend with each girl, 80 00:05:00,145 --> 00:05:02,176 I planned to ask questions about their lives, 81 00:05:02,209 --> 00:05:05,216 creating a platform for their voices to be heard. 82 00:05:05,952 --> 00:05:08,319 So here we are preparing to meet 83 00:05:08,351 --> 00:05:10,559 some of the most successful women 84 00:05:10,592 --> 00:05:12,895 in the business of sex. 85 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:42,049 It's easy money, but is it easy being naked 86 00:05:42,082 --> 00:05:44,209 and having sex with someone you don't know? 87 00:05:44,242 --> 00:05:45,521 At first, no, 88 00:05:45,553 --> 00:05:46,609 it wasn't. I'm sure. 89 00:05:46,642 --> 00:05:48,699 It wasn't. I was very timid. 90 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,927 I didn't really move my body. 91 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,047 You could tell I was a little... 92 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,247 if you see some of my earlier scenes 93 00:05:53,296 --> 00:05:54,847 and you do some research on Misty Stone... 94 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:56,447 Yeah, right? Can't wait. 95 00:05:56,496 --> 00:05:57,887 Which I'll wait until after, 96 00:05:57,936 --> 00:05:59,913 because I wanted to meet the person. 97 00:05:59,937 --> 00:06:01,200 Oh, I dig it. 98 00:06:01,217 --> 00:06:02,848 I don't want to meet the porn star. 99 00:06:02,897 --> 00:06:04,608 And if I'd known and seen the work before, 100 00:06:04,657 --> 00:06:07,696 I wouldn't... couldn't look at you in the same light as this. 101 00:06:07,729 --> 00:06:08,880 I feel like this is a very innocent place 102 00:06:08,897 --> 00:06:10,256 for me to be sitting. 103 00:06:10,289 --> 00:06:11,408 No matter who I meet, 104 00:06:11,441 --> 00:06:13,968 I feel like that blank canvas to me is... 105 00:06:14,303 --> 00:06:16,719 because then it's a genuine I-want-to-get-to-know-you. 106 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:18,667 It's after that I can see your work 107 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:20,779 and then go, wow, so she said this and she's done this. 108 00:06:20,828 --> 00:06:22,699 And I think that's when the story unfolds 109 00:06:22,748 --> 00:06:23,867 in a different head space for me. 110 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:25,050 Oh, my goodness, she's so awesome. 111 00:06:25,068 --> 00:06:26,539 Wow, I love that. But it's the truth. 112 00:06:26,588 --> 00:06:27,979 Mike's bringing... sent me some Wikipedia 113 00:06:28,028 --> 00:06:29,579 so I know who you are, of course. 114 00:06:29,628 --> 00:06:30,859 I'm not used to this treatment 115 00:06:30,908 --> 00:06:33,019 because, honestly, we get treated so differently 116 00:06:33,044 --> 00:06:34,931 because of what we do, you know what I mean? 117 00:06:34,964 --> 00:06:37,059 So you wanting to really get to know me? 118 00:06:37,092 --> 00:06:39,095 Oh, my goodness, do you know how that makes me feel? 119 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,479 Amazing. Thank you. 120 00:06:40,511 --> 00:06:41,791 Really? Yes. 121 00:06:41,816 --> 00:06:44,096 My first tattoo is my mom's signature 122 00:06:44,214 --> 00:06:45,685 of her first and middle name. 123 00:06:45,734 --> 00:06:47,450 She is my best friend. 124 00:06:47,997 --> 00:06:51,484 We both died in my childbirth and were revived. 125 00:06:52,415 --> 00:06:54,879 I mean, we've been through everything together. 126 00:06:54,927 --> 00:06:56,689 My mom and I talk about everything. 127 00:06:56,714 --> 00:06:59,145 When I was 13 years old, to push her buttons, 128 00:06:59,194 --> 00:07:01,993 I said, Mom, what would you do if I became a stripper? 129 00:07:02,026 --> 00:07:03,401 She said, well, if you're gonna do it, 130 00:07:03,434 --> 00:07:04,841 make sure that you dance in a city 131 00:07:04,874 --> 00:07:05,961 where you'll make a lot of money 132 00:07:05,994 --> 00:07:08,361 so that your time is worth it. 133 00:07:10,025 --> 00:07:12,233 I looked a lot different in school. 134 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:14,335 I was very... 135 00:07:14,413 --> 00:07:16,331 I was very Puerto Rican. Really? 136 00:07:18,887 --> 00:07:23,747 I had long, burgundy, scrunched-up gelled hair, 137 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,678 glued-down bangs and big loop earrings 138 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:31,709 and big bubble jackets and, like, 18 pairs of Nikes 139 00:07:31,991 --> 00:07:33,893 and Taylors and stuff. 140 00:07:33,911 --> 00:07:36,182 And then I just changed, you know. 141 00:07:36,263 --> 00:07:40,022 I left school very young to go to beauty school. 142 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:41,210 I was always, I would say, 143 00:08:41,259 --> 00:08:43,962 growing up, I was a daddy's girl. 144 00:08:43,217 --> 00:08:46,975 I always was with my dad, but as I got older, 145 00:08:47,009 --> 00:08:48,639 I feel like... 'cause my parents got divorced, 146 00:08:48,657 --> 00:08:50,207 so I lived with my mom, 147 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,608 so I felt like I was forced into a relationship with my mother 148 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,453 if I wanted to have a social life. 149 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:00,038 I come from a really big family. 150 00:09:00,071 --> 00:09:01,238 There's eight kids. 151 00:09:01,271 --> 00:09:03,142 And I do remember my dad was very... 152 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:05,030 You know, he was a bishop and he was in the Air Force, 153 00:09:05,063 --> 00:09:06,486 and so he was always gone. 154 00:09:06,518 --> 00:09:07,638 He had too much to do, 155 00:09:07,671 --> 00:09:09,702 and so, like, there's always been 156 00:09:09,719 --> 00:09:12,710 this huge desire for attention in me. 157 00:09:13,672 --> 00:09:17,607 I moved, like, 55 times as a kid. 158 00:09:19,051 --> 00:09:20,210 Shut up. Swear, yeah. 159 00:09:20,250 --> 00:09:22,353 That's, like, when I stopped counting. 160 00:09:23,465 --> 00:09:25,517 My parents divorced when I was young, 161 00:09:25,542 --> 00:09:26,677 so I didn't grow up... 162 00:09:26,702 --> 00:09:28,093 I had my stepdad, but... 163 00:09:28,118 --> 00:09:29,797 Right, but not with your dad. 164 00:09:29,830 --> 00:09:30,869 No, mm-mm. 165 00:09:30,918 --> 00:09:32,261 Didn't see him or just... 166 00:09:32,278 --> 00:09:33,540 No, mm-mm. 167 00:09:33,557 --> 00:09:34,677 Out of the loop. Mm-hmm. 168 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:35,876 Still out of the loop? 169 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:36,997 Prefer not to see him. 170 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:38,660 I make a choice, a valiant choice 171 00:09:38,678 --> 00:09:42,596 not to participate in seeing him. 172 00:09:44,923 --> 00:09:47,689 My mom was taking care of my brothers and sisters, 173 00:09:47,723 --> 00:09:50,554 but because my mom had me when she was 15 years old, 174 00:09:50,587 --> 00:09:52,825 my grandparents had always raised me. 175 00:09:52,842 --> 00:09:54,774 My grandpa was always my dad, 176 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:56,642 and so it was actually... 177 00:09:56,729 --> 00:09:58,922 now that I look back on it as an adult, 178 00:09:59,055 --> 00:10:02,063 I really... I cherish that they were there 179 00:10:02,522 --> 00:10:04,041 to take care of me, you know, 180 00:10:04,073 --> 00:10:07,160 because my mom was so young that, who knows, you know. 181 00:10:07,209 --> 00:10:09,672 With young parents, you just never know. 182 00:10:11,429 --> 00:10:13,109 I moved in with my dad for a couple of years. 183 00:10:13,141 --> 00:10:14,852 It was a very turbulent situation. 184 00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:16,101 When I turned 16, 185 00:10:16,134 --> 00:10:18,309 he kicked me out and that was that. 186 00:10:18,341 --> 00:10:21,941 And we didn't talk again until just a month ago. 187 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:24,869 23 years of my life, we didn't talk. 188 00:10:27,045 --> 00:10:28,340 I would go to school with a full face of makeup 189 00:10:28,373 --> 00:10:30,484 and, like, my hair, like, flat-ironed. 190 00:10:30,517 --> 00:10:31,956 And the teachers are, like, 191 00:10:31,989 --> 00:10:33,156 "Why don't you go wash it off?" 192 00:10:33,188 --> 00:10:34,436 And I didn't get it, you know. 193 00:10:34,485 --> 00:10:36,147 I thought it was embarrassing 194 00:10:36,164 --> 00:10:38,835 to be seen without a full face of makeup. 195 00:10:38,868 --> 00:10:40,324 Literally at, like, 10 years old, 196 00:10:40,356 --> 00:10:41,604 I thought I was a little woman 197 00:10:41,637 --> 00:10:45,555 because I was kind of, within our little family, 198 00:10:46,644 --> 00:10:48,339 grasping to try to assume 199 00:10:48,373 --> 00:10:51,140 this, like, adult, maternal role, you know, 200 00:10:51,172 --> 00:10:52,883 because it just wasn't there. 201 00:10:52,901 --> 00:10:55,924 My family was raised... half was reform 202 00:10:55,941 --> 00:10:57,331 and half was Catholic. 203 00:10:57,364 --> 00:11:01,523 And then personally I was raised nondenominational 204 00:11:01,541 --> 00:11:06,292 and then I married a preacher when I was 18 205 00:11:07,070 --> 00:11:08,509 who was missionary Baptist. 206 00:11:08,527 --> 00:11:13,358 So that is how religious my background is. 207 00:11:14,098 --> 00:11:16,929 I used to, like, teach vacation Bible school to the kids 208 00:11:16,978 --> 00:11:20,129 and Sunday school and all those wonderful things 209 00:11:20,210 --> 00:11:22,816 that I still truly totally believe in. 210 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:24,577 I haven't lost my religion. I still believe in God 211 00:11:24,610 --> 00:11:28,609 and I still have the things that I, you know, relate to 212 00:11:28,658 --> 00:11:29,809 as far as religion goes. 213 00:11:29,841 --> 00:11:36,289 And for me, I still think that no matter who God is 214 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,921 or what God you believe in or what you want to think, 215 00:11:39,970 --> 00:11:41,152 you should still be able to live your life 216 00:11:41,169 --> 00:11:44,321 the way you think is best humanly possible. 217 00:11:45,035 --> 00:11:46,840 I went to private Christian school. 218 00:11:47,614 --> 00:11:49,868 I mean, I was no stranger to the Bible. 219 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:51,237 I've read it inside and out. 220 00:11:51,286 --> 00:11:54,644 Like, I remember I had to memorize a new verse 221 00:11:54,678 --> 00:11:56,324 every single day and recite it. 222 00:11:56,358 --> 00:11:59,444 I was schooled in the religious way. 223 00:11:59,478 --> 00:12:03,269 I was at that church six days a week. 224 00:12:04,408 --> 00:12:05,751 There'd be two services. 225 00:12:05,784 --> 00:12:08,774 There'd be Sunday school, then church on Sundays. 226 00:12:08,791 --> 00:12:10,862 Monday through Friday, I'm in school 227 00:12:11,816 --> 00:12:13,776 and then I'm in daycare till my mom gets off work, 228 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:15,142 which is Christian daycare. 229 00:12:15,174 --> 00:12:16,421 Missionettes on Wednesday, 230 00:12:16,454 --> 00:12:18,070 which is like Christian Girl Scouts. 231 00:12:18,102 --> 00:12:20,261 And then Saturday occasionally I'd get drug in 232 00:12:20,294 --> 00:12:21,702 'cause my mom had choir practice. 233 00:12:21,734 --> 00:12:23,749 So I lived at that church. 234 00:12:23,783 --> 00:12:25,942 And even then, I remember I would sit in class 235 00:12:26,022 --> 00:12:27,110 and they would say something 236 00:12:27,142 --> 00:12:28,950 and it just wouldn't make sense. 237 00:12:28,983 --> 00:12:31,249 They would say something 238 00:12:31,798 --> 00:12:33,236 that defied logic 239 00:12:33,268 --> 00:12:34,435 even to a third-grader. 240 00:12:34,484 --> 00:12:37,315 And, um... so I just... 241 00:12:37,364 --> 00:12:40,435 I didn't feel any guilt about sex 242 00:12:40,468 --> 00:12:42,179 by the time it got down to that. 243 00:12:43,316 --> 00:12:44,627 Church was, like, forced. You know what I mean? 244 00:12:44,644 --> 00:12:47,667 When I was really, really young, I was all about it. 245 00:12:47,716 --> 00:12:49,683 I loved going to Sunday school 246 00:12:49,717 --> 00:12:51,620 and, you know, things like that. 247 00:12:51,653 --> 00:12:56,115 I was, like, sort of the preacher's pet, 248 00:12:56,624 --> 00:12:57,903 I guess you could say. 249 00:12:57,921 --> 00:13:00,719 That sounds kind of sexual. It wasn't at all. 250 00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:03,381 Just that I was, like, you know, 251 00:13:03,413 --> 00:13:04,868 the shining little star in the bunch 252 00:13:04,918 --> 00:13:07,300 and had all of Genesis memorized 253 00:13:07,318 --> 00:13:09,028 by my fourth birthday, you know. 254 00:13:09,061 --> 00:13:11,269 But then one day, I just woke up 255 00:13:11,301 --> 00:13:13,316 and I realized that it's just a story, 256 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:14,820 at least in my opinion. 257 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:16,756 I respect any and all religions 258 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:20,149 as long as, you know, they're about, you know, 259 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:22,496 the greater good of all. 260 00:13:22,514 --> 00:13:23,952 You know what I mean? 261 00:13:23,986 --> 00:13:27,344 But for me, I just kind of came to look at religion 262 00:13:27,393 --> 00:13:30,593 as, like, a placebo that people need 263 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:32,757 to get them through dark moments 264 00:13:32,791 --> 00:13:35,270 and to sort of guide their ships. 265 00:13:35,303 --> 00:13:37,030 But I just kind of went renegade 266 00:13:37,079 --> 00:13:39,542 and decided I didn't want any of those things, you know. 267 00:13:41,624 --> 00:13:43,735 You know who I love? Deepak Chopra. 268 00:13:43,767 --> 00:13:44,887 First time I went to one of his seminars, 269 00:13:44,904 --> 00:13:47,020 I hate to tell you, it changed my life. 270 00:13:47,098 --> 00:13:48,300 Changed my life. 271 00:13:48,325 --> 00:13:49,763 Just how he says, you know, 272 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:52,356 think about loading all these things into your suitcases 273 00:13:52,388 --> 00:13:54,211 and how heavy it's gonna get 274 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:56,770 and all those little things that just... 275 00:13:56,793 --> 00:13:58,468 Yeah, you know what? You're right. 276 00:13:58,493 --> 00:14:00,748 Made a difference. Let it go. 277 00:14:00,813 --> 00:14:03,422 Do you have a strong religious connection at all? 278 00:14:03,463 --> 00:14:04,422 Mm-mm, no. 279 00:14:04,494 --> 00:14:06,413 My mom's Catholic, you know. 280 00:14:06,446 --> 00:14:09,822 I was baptized Catholic, but, no, we didn't really... 281 00:14:09,854 --> 00:14:11,742 You know, we had a pretty... 282 00:14:11,774 --> 00:14:13,982 I pretty much was able to do whatever I wanted, 283 00:14:14,015 --> 00:14:16,173 which is probably why I'm here. 284 00:14:18,175 --> 00:14:21,067 I just was very naive and didn't really, like... 285 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,671 I grew up being scared to say what I really felt. 286 00:14:25,968 --> 00:14:28,943 You know, I think my mom's intentions were good, 287 00:14:28,977 --> 00:14:30,655 but she really raised us kids 288 00:14:30,689 --> 00:14:33,168 to kind of suppress that. 289 00:14:33,217 --> 00:14:35,567 You know, like, don't speak up kinda. 290 00:14:35,616 --> 00:14:37,647 And that kind of hurt me in a lot of ways. 291 00:14:37,696 --> 00:14:39,567 Growing up, it was, like, man, you know... 292 00:14:39,616 --> 00:14:41,567 Being 30 years old now, 293 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,008 I'm finally being able to go, okay, 294 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,607 I can say this and it's okay, 295 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,519 and I'm not gonna, like, get hurt 296 00:14:47,536 --> 00:14:50,288 and these people aren't gonna be angry at me, you know. 297 00:14:50,337 --> 00:14:53,007 It was a lot of work to be able to do that. 298 00:14:54,273 --> 00:14:56,513 But I think one of the reasons 299 00:14:56,545 --> 00:14:58,273 that's it's so common 300 00:14:58,305 --> 00:15:02,993 for girls in adult not to have fathers in the home 301 00:15:03,026 --> 00:15:05,553 is not really because they're damaged, 302 00:15:05,585 --> 00:15:09,216 but because there's not someone there to disappoint. 303 00:15:09,731 --> 00:15:10,994 I mean, it's one thing 304 00:15:11,012 --> 00:15:12,179 to disappoint your mom like that. 305 00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:13,874 It's another to disappoint your dad. 306 00:15:13,892 --> 00:15:16,274 And if you don't have a dad to disappoint, 307 00:15:16,291 --> 00:15:17,810 that barrier is not there. 308 00:15:17,843 --> 00:15:20,946 And so lots of people, especially now, 309 00:15:20,979 --> 00:15:22,371 are children of divorce 310 00:15:22,403 --> 00:15:26,323 and one-parent homes and everything, but it's just... 311 00:15:26,355 --> 00:15:28,002 I find with adult that it's always 312 00:15:28,051 --> 00:15:30,003 just a matter of how many barriers were there, 313 00:15:30,035 --> 00:15:31,842 because there are barriers. 314 00:15:31,907 --> 00:15:33,603 It's a social no-no. It's taboo. 315 00:15:33,652 --> 00:15:37,605 So if it's a child coming in from foster care, 316 00:15:38,207 --> 00:15:39,645 they have no one to disappoint. 317 00:15:39,678 --> 00:15:42,046 If it's a child coming in from one parent, 318 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:43,038 especially the mom, 319 00:15:43,086 --> 00:15:44,766 they don't have a dad to disappoint. 320 00:15:44,798 --> 00:15:47,198 If it's a child... you know... And they're not fucked up. 321 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,366 They don't have to worry about that responsibility. 322 00:15:50,398 --> 00:15:52,429 If it's a child who moved around a lot, 323 00:15:52,447 --> 00:15:54,797 they don't have the roots in the community 324 00:15:54,830 --> 00:15:56,269 that they can disappoint. 325 00:15:56,287 --> 00:15:58,845 And so the less grounded you are 326 00:15:58,878 --> 00:16:00,045 into a community and a family, 327 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:01,598 the easier it is to go off and do things 328 00:16:01,647 --> 00:16:02,960 that go against that. 329 00:16:04,484 --> 00:16:06,484 Listening to these stories, 330 00:16:06,516 --> 00:16:08,292 I also wanted a different perspective, 331 00:16:08,324 --> 00:16:09,764 so I approached an agent 332 00:16:09,813 --> 00:16:11,567 and veteran of the adult industry. 333 00:16:11,818 --> 00:16:14,570 People who don't know our industry will say, 334 00:16:14,602 --> 00:16:17,386 well, surely they wanted to be a Hollywood actress. 335 00:16:17,418 --> 00:16:18,666 No, they didn't. 336 00:16:18,698 --> 00:16:21,257 They're not failed actresses. 337 00:16:21,306 --> 00:16:23,273 They've been promiscuous all their lives 338 00:16:23,307 --> 00:16:27,129 and when they reach 18, you know what? 339 00:16:27,147 --> 00:16:28,506 I'm giving it away for free. 340 00:16:28,538 --> 00:16:30,265 I might as well do it on camera. 341 00:16:30,383 --> 00:16:32,270 They don't think, well, in the future 342 00:16:32,584 --> 00:16:35,896 it might hinder a normal relationship 343 00:16:36,781 --> 00:16:39,868 or it will be difficult to raise children 344 00:16:39,901 --> 00:16:42,157 knowing that one day that's gonna come up. 345 00:16:42,206 --> 00:16:45,276 We want 18-year-olds because they're fresh, 346 00:16:45,309 --> 00:16:47,676 because they have tight bodies, 347 00:16:48,144 --> 00:16:51,503 and because that's what a lot of guys who jerk off 348 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,200 want to jerk off to. 349 00:16:53,264 --> 00:16:54,479 They don't want to jerk off 350 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:56,432 to a woman that looks like their wife 351 00:16:56,464 --> 00:16:59,328 even if their wife is beautiful. 352 00:17:00,179 --> 00:17:02,611 So the first three years, 353 00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:03,938 if they work from 18 to 21, 354 00:17:03,972 --> 00:17:05,218 none of them are smart. 355 00:17:05,251 --> 00:17:07,011 I don't care who they are. 356 00:17:07,043 --> 00:17:11,490 They're gonna blow through $150,000, $250,000. 357 00:17:11,523 --> 00:17:12,819 So for that, I would like them... 358 00:17:12,851 --> 00:17:15,778 spend 18 to 21, get some education. 359 00:17:15,811 --> 00:17:17,922 See if this is really what you want to do 360 00:17:17,939 --> 00:17:22,579 because you will have a scarlet letter on you. 361 00:17:22,611 --> 00:17:24,147 You will. 362 00:17:35,113 --> 00:17:37,336 The more time I spent getting to know these women, 363 00:17:37,401 --> 00:17:38,728 the more I kept thinking about 364 00:17:38,777 --> 00:17:42,445 the changes in the world we live in regarding our views on sex. 365 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:44,944 We frown upon these women in the sex industry 366 00:17:44,969 --> 00:17:48,130 who are making films to fulfill the ever-growing demand. 367 00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:50,080 Yet if there was no need for porn, 368 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,916 these women would be choosing 369 00:17:51,941 --> 00:17:53,822 a completely different life path. 370 00:17:53,893 --> 00:17:55,045 Sex is everywhere 371 00:17:55,077 --> 00:17:57,780 and right in front of our noses on a daily basis, 372 00:17:58,192 --> 00:18:00,927 somewhat distorting its sensuous roots. 373 00:18:00,944 --> 00:18:03,056 One can see advertising up on giant billboards 374 00:18:03,136 --> 00:18:04,976 trying to sell a product, 375 00:18:05,056 --> 00:18:08,367 yet the subliminal message depicts some sort of sexual innuendo 376 00:18:09,145 --> 00:18:12,008 stating that sex holds the power and without it, 377 00:18:12,041 --> 00:18:15,000 this product holds no value to you. 378 00:18:16,649 --> 00:18:19,609 From the media with its mainstream publications 379 00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:24,520 to the high-art intellectual magazines that sell across the globe... 380 00:18:24,934 --> 00:18:28,470 reality TV shows that stream uncensored 381 00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:32,534 live on the Internet all day, every day... 382 00:18:32,838 --> 00:18:35,062 to the pop icons we so love and adore 383 00:18:35,094 --> 00:18:37,350 who use their sexuality 384 00:18:37,382 --> 00:18:40,389 to pull you into their extraordinary world... 385 00:18:41,497 --> 00:18:43,915 ultimately, sex sells. 386 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,379 Yet why are we so willing to let sex be the indicator 387 00:18:47,427 --> 00:18:48,818 as to whether something tastes better, 388 00:18:48,851 --> 00:18:50,114 runs faster, 389 00:18:50,148 --> 00:18:54,131 or makes you look and smell more attractive? 390 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,311 The lines are blurring 391 00:18:57,328 --> 00:19:00,207 between the messages we are sending out into the world. 392 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,608 Whether you think sex is the root of all evil 393 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,967 or the thing that connects you to God, everyone is partaking in a sacred ritual. 394 00:19:07,178 --> 00:19:09,897 So ultimately, how far are we willing to go 395 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:12,809 to forget the true power of who we really are 396 00:19:12,841 --> 00:19:15,641 as we are letting go of our innate sensuality 397 00:19:16,142 --> 00:19:19,037 for our obsession with sexuality? 398 00:19:31,554 --> 00:19:35,984 When I first came into the business, I couldn't say the word blowjob. 399 00:19:36,017 --> 00:19:37,158 Forget throat fuck 400 00:19:38,587 --> 00:19:40,497 and fisting. 401 00:19:40,528 --> 00:19:42,927 And after about three months of working... 402 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,887 I don't know if you know him... Clive McLean is his name. 403 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,103 He shot for Hustler for 29 years before he died. 404 00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:51,360 And they have a beautiful ranch in Sunland, 405 00:19:51,392 --> 00:19:55,311 and, okay, I've become adjusted to the porn life, 406 00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:57,381 and after three months, I went up there 407 00:19:57,406 --> 00:19:58,844 and I said, put the kettle on. 408 00:19:58,877 --> 00:19:59,948 I need to chat to you. 409 00:19:59,982 --> 00:20:04,341 I said because, morally, I don't think women should sell themselves for sex. 410 00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:06,106 I said, so if I don't believe 411 00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:09,209 what they're doing is moral, what sort of person am I? 412 00:20:09,258 --> 00:20:11,401 I'm getting a paycheck off of their pussies. 413 00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:13,497 It makes me worse. 414 00:20:13,530 --> 00:20:15,161 Someone's gonna do your job, Fran, 415 00:20:15,194 --> 00:20:17,497 and there's always gonna be people like you. 416 00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:19,049 And they can either choose 417 00:20:19,082 --> 00:20:20,857 to have someone that doesn't give a shit about them 418 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:21,769 or someone like you 419 00:20:21,802 --> 00:20:24,217 who might actually care about them. 420 00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:28,499 I never believed I would actually do it, you know. 421 00:20:28,601 --> 00:20:30,312 It's one of those things 422 00:20:30,345 --> 00:20:32,120 where I think the greatest reservation 423 00:20:32,169 --> 00:20:33,608 lies in people discovering you 424 00:20:33,641 --> 00:20:35,048 and treating you differently 425 00:20:35,082 --> 00:20:37,401 because of what you do, you know. 426 00:20:38,451 --> 00:20:40,889 And I was always petrified of that. 427 00:20:40,975 --> 00:20:43,358 I knew that there was a lot of money to be made, 428 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:44,686 and so that was the motivation. 429 00:20:44,735 --> 00:20:47,134 Anyone who tells you it isn't is full of shit. 430 00:20:48,335 --> 00:20:49,726 An agent approached me 431 00:20:49,758 --> 00:20:51,646 and said we'd like to bring you out to California. 432 00:20:51,678 --> 00:20:54,846 We see that you do some... We see that you do nude work, 433 00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:57,518 and all you would be doing is Playbolevel. 434 00:20:57,677 --> 00:21:00,092 And so on my first shoot when they said, "Okay, 435 00:21:00,186 --> 00:21:02,108 now we're gonna film," I go, "Film what?" 436 00:21:02,758 --> 00:21:04,869 And they said, "Your solo scene." 437 00:21:04,918 --> 00:21:08,197 And I said, "Of course it's solo, but what are we filming?" 438 00:21:08,231 --> 00:21:10,229 They go, "Your masturbation scene." 439 00:21:10,424 --> 00:21:13,287 I go, "I hate to admit this 440 00:21:13,304 --> 00:21:15,835 "and you're not gonna believe me, but I've never masturbated in my life." 441 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:17,858 And they go, "Well, how is that possible?" 442 00:21:17,891 --> 00:21:21,378 I go, "I always had somebody to do it for me." 443 00:21:21,739 --> 00:21:24,858 But I sat there just deer-in-the-headlights 444 00:21:24,891 --> 00:21:28,618 and I said, "So how much am I getting paid for the day?" 445 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:30,666 And they told me and my jaw dropped 446 00:21:30,699 --> 00:21:32,426 because not only was that the biggest paycheck 447 00:21:32,459 --> 00:21:34,106 I'd ever gotten in one day, 448 00:21:34,953 --> 00:21:38,632 that's the biggest check I'd ever gotten in my life. 449 00:21:39,075 --> 00:21:41,145 I get paid to have sex. 450 00:21:41,349 --> 00:21:43,349 Like, why doesn't everybody do that? 451 00:21:43,381 --> 00:21:45,060 We do it for free all the time. 452 00:21:45,093 --> 00:21:47,012 If you can make money, why not? 453 00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:49,760 I remember going online to find an agent 454 00:21:49,847 --> 00:21:52,014 because I wanted to do nude modeling. 455 00:21:52,171 --> 00:21:53,649 And when I went there, 456 00:21:53,719 --> 00:21:55,807 I went in, took my Polaroid, of course. 457 00:21:56,011 --> 00:21:57,274 And when I walked out, 458 00:21:57,291 --> 00:21:59,242 I guess I didn't really pay attention 459 00:21:59,291 --> 00:22:00,970 to what was hanging on the walls. 460 00:22:01,003 --> 00:22:03,882 And it was a hardcore adult company. 461 00:22:04,858 --> 00:22:05,903 And I was, like, 462 00:22:06,005 --> 00:22:08,324 well, that's not, you know, what I signed up for. 463 00:22:08,357 --> 00:22:09,796 I was just trying to do, you know, 464 00:22:09,845 --> 00:22:12,452 nude modeling like Penthouse style stuff. 465 00:22:13,191 --> 00:22:15,094 And the owner of the company 466 00:22:15,111 --> 00:22:17,222 and one of the directors loved me so much, 467 00:22:17,271 --> 00:22:19,969 they were, like, please, please, please do this. 468 00:22:20,068 --> 00:22:22,755 He was, like, we'll pay you a better amount... 469 00:22:22,788 --> 00:22:24,051 you know, we'll pay you this amount of money, 470 00:22:24,084 --> 00:22:25,315 which was better than any other girl 471 00:22:25,348 --> 00:22:26,595 was getting at that moment. 472 00:22:26,628 --> 00:22:28,547 And they said if I didn't feel comfortable, 473 00:22:28,579 --> 00:22:29,555 if I didn't like it, 474 00:22:29,588 --> 00:22:31,187 I didn't have to sign the model release 475 00:22:31,236 --> 00:22:32,739 and they'll still pay me. 476 00:22:32,756 --> 00:22:35,907 So giving me that freedom to choose 477 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:37,667 whether I like it or not during it, 478 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:39,075 not a lot of people 479 00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:42,836 get that first experience in the business. 480 00:22:43,994 --> 00:22:48,073 So elongate a female performer's career. 481 00:22:48,106 --> 00:22:51,353 The idea is you come in, 482 00:22:51,402 --> 00:22:53,765 you start off doing girl-girl and solos 483 00:22:53,813 --> 00:22:54,916 until you're comfortable 484 00:22:54,949 --> 00:22:56,436 being in front of the camera. 485 00:22:56,484 --> 00:22:58,739 Then you'll introduce a boy. 486 00:22:59,527 --> 00:23:01,638 Then after six months of that, 487 00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:03,958 you'll be seen on camera with two boys. 488 00:23:04,934 --> 00:23:06,232 Keep it stretched out. 489 00:23:06,358 --> 00:23:07,845 Don't give your fans 490 00:23:07,878 --> 00:23:10,165 and the public and the porn world 491 00:23:10,198 --> 00:23:11,989 all of your body all at once 492 00:23:12,596 --> 00:23:14,971 because if you're 18 and you do that, 493 00:23:15,096 --> 00:23:16,727 you won't see past 24 494 00:23:16,744 --> 00:23:19,943 because you would have done everything. 495 00:23:20,393 --> 00:23:22,440 Smart women that you've met 496 00:23:22,473 --> 00:23:25,000 that are in their later thirties, 497 00:23:25,405 --> 00:23:26,956 they've done it the right way. 498 00:23:26,973 --> 00:23:28,262 They've held off. 499 00:23:28,702 --> 00:23:30,029 Sure, we'll give it to you, 500 00:23:30,078 --> 00:23:32,349 but you're gonna have to wait for it. 501 00:23:32,891 --> 00:23:34,656 And then the fans have got it. 502 00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:44,942 I was in New York 503 00:24:44,991 --> 00:24:47,441 and I was dancing at one of the clubs there. 504 00:24:47,582 --> 00:24:49,821 And I just woke up one morning 505 00:24:49,854 --> 00:24:51,933 and I was, like, I'm just sick of this lifestyle. 506 00:24:51,966 --> 00:24:55,133 Like, I'm out till 5, 6 A.M. 507 00:24:55,166 --> 00:24:57,037 I sleep until 5, 6 P.M. 508 00:24:57,086 --> 00:24:58,845 I get up, I go blow some money, 509 00:24:58,893 --> 00:25:00,845 and then I go to work and I do it again. 510 00:25:00,878 --> 00:25:02,285 You know, it was just like this vicious cycle, 511 00:25:02,317 --> 00:25:03,692 and I was drinking a lot. 512 00:25:03,726 --> 00:25:06,445 And I didn't necessarily think that adult 513 00:25:06,478 --> 00:25:08,813 would be, like, my saving grace, you know. 514 00:25:08,845 --> 00:25:10,653 I just thought it was something else that I could do. 515 00:25:10,686 --> 00:25:12,653 If I didn't experience this firsthand, 516 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,205 I wouldn't believe it. 517 00:25:14,871 --> 00:25:17,911 But I am actually more together and stable 518 00:25:17,944 --> 00:25:20,391 than I've ever been in my whole life, you know. 519 00:25:21,042 --> 00:25:23,681 Financially, 520 00:25:23,713 --> 00:25:25,964 you know, as far as having a little home 521 00:25:26,144 --> 00:25:28,703 and just trying to just build a life. 522 00:25:28,798 --> 00:25:32,797 And I know it sounds... again, it sounds insane, you know, 523 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:36,636 that I found my stability in porn. 524 00:25:36,754 --> 00:25:39,296 It just doesn't sound like it makes sense, 525 00:25:39,555 --> 00:25:41,746 but that's what I did. 526 00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:55,493 Because in a sense they're becoming younger and younger, 527 00:25:55,511 --> 00:25:59,190 I feel, in their interest in sex, 528 00:25:59,223 --> 00:26:00,919 because it's all on the Internet. 529 00:26:01,005 --> 00:26:03,517 You can download it, you can get to it quicker. 530 00:26:04,083 --> 00:26:07,437 Do you find there's a lot of 18-year-olds coming to you? 531 00:26:07,726 --> 00:26:10,253 Like, literally, you're, like, let me see your passport? 532 00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,404 They walk in, that's all they know. 533 00:26:11,438 --> 00:26:12,701 They don't know anything else. 534 00:26:12,734 --> 00:26:14,621 They just know they can fuck, 535 00:26:14,654 --> 00:26:16,333 they like the attention. 536 00:26:16,382 --> 00:26:18,861 Do you think a lot of these girls are sex addicts? 537 00:26:19,934 --> 00:26:21,213 Um... 538 00:26:21,245 --> 00:26:23,932 No. I think they're more attention addicts. 539 00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:28,023 When stripping and porn came into the picture, 540 00:26:28,056 --> 00:26:31,527 it was, like, wow, like, a lot of attention. 541 00:26:31,544 --> 00:26:33,623 And also the attention of feeling sexy, 542 00:26:33,656 --> 00:26:35,383 because I didn't get that kind of attention 543 00:26:35,415 --> 00:26:36,663 growing up either. 544 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,300 I was not that girl, you know. 545 00:26:38,349 --> 00:26:39,739 Like, people wouldn't look at me 546 00:26:39,788 --> 00:26:41,068 and, like, want to date me. 547 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,500 So it was, like, ooh, I felt sexy, too, you know? 548 00:26:44,012 --> 00:26:45,419 But I don't know where that came from. 549 00:26:45,453 --> 00:26:46,780 I really... I'd love to know. 550 00:26:46,829 --> 00:26:47,980 Well, it turns on the switch. 551 00:26:48,013 --> 00:26:49,900 When you know that you're having a gap. 552 00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:51,340 My dad traveled at times. I get it. 553 00:26:51,372 --> 00:26:52,908 That switch turns and you're, like, oh, wait, 554 00:26:52,941 --> 00:26:55,148 but I can get it from here and this makes me feel good. 555 00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,988 Because I think we all want to be loved 556 00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:58,988 on a very, you know, profound level. 557 00:26:59,028 --> 00:27:00,779 You have a child, so you know that. 558 00:27:00,883 --> 00:27:03,114 You know you need to feed her 559 00:27:03,202 --> 00:27:06,370 to make her feel that she is really cared about. 560 00:27:06,616 --> 00:27:07,608 So kind of it's that. 561 00:27:07,633 --> 00:27:10,975 When you moved into stripping, 562 00:27:11,694 --> 00:27:14,911 was it with intention to go into porn or was it just... 563 00:27:15,271 --> 00:27:17,639 Not at all. Like, not at all. 564 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,927 The same girlfriend 565 00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:21,639 that got me hooked up in the bachelor parties, 566 00:27:21,687 --> 00:27:23,350 we hadn't been hanging out all the time. 567 00:27:23,368 --> 00:27:25,127 I randomly got a call from her. 568 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,759 She's in L.A. doing porn 569 00:27:26,808 --> 00:27:30,391 and she's with an agent who will give her 100 bucks 570 00:27:30,408 --> 00:27:32,679 if she would, you know, scout girls for him. 571 00:27:32,728 --> 00:27:33,767 So she was, like, hey, 572 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,966 you want to come out and try this? 573 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,199 And that's how it happened. 574 00:27:36,248 --> 00:27:38,887 I was on the plane the next day and... 575 00:27:40,812 --> 00:27:44,971 I started stripping when I was 15 years old. 576 00:27:45,986 --> 00:27:48,305 I think back then, 'cause I was really young, 577 00:27:48,345 --> 00:27:50,080 I probably liked attention, you know. 578 00:27:50,112 --> 00:27:51,280 I liked attention. 579 00:27:51,328 --> 00:27:52,671 I really wasn't thinking about the money. 580 00:27:52,688 --> 00:27:55,248 But I had won a dance contest in Hollywood. 581 00:27:55,281 --> 00:27:57,372 I used to hang around Hollywood a lot 582 00:27:57,403 --> 00:27:59,442 and I knew everybody back then, 583 00:27:59,459 --> 00:28:01,150 so I would get in all the clubs. 584 00:28:01,291 --> 00:28:03,224 And I met a guy there who was, like, 585 00:28:03,326 --> 00:28:05,432 "I know how you can make a lot of money." 586 00:28:05,464 --> 00:28:06,855 And I was, like, really? How? 587 00:28:06,936 --> 00:28:08,775 He's, like, my friend owns a bachelor party company. 588 00:28:08,972 --> 00:28:11,130 And I said, but I'm not of age, you know. 589 00:28:11,163 --> 00:28:12,459 I'm only 15. 590 00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:14,731 He's, like, oh, it's okay, they won't ask for ID. 591 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:17,371 And so I started stripping at bachelor parties 592 00:28:17,404 --> 00:28:18,682 when I was young. 593 00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:19,851 I like to have sex. 594 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,970 I mean, when I was younger, yeah, I was probably... 595 00:28:25,772 --> 00:28:27,132 I'd look back now 596 00:28:27,165 --> 00:28:29,719 and probably say silly girl, silly young girl. 597 00:28:29,744 --> 00:28:31,623 I was never afraid of sex. 598 00:28:32,225 --> 00:28:34,168 So it was just like, okay, 599 00:28:34,363 --> 00:28:36,347 so people are gonna get to see me having sex 600 00:28:36,364 --> 00:28:37,915 and people are gonna get to see me naked. 601 00:28:37,947 --> 00:28:39,563 And I figured that, 602 00:28:39,596 --> 00:28:44,395 after I'd done the first, like, time on the camera, 603 00:28:44,911 --> 00:28:48,125 I was either gonna love it or hate it. 604 00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,822 You know, and if I didn't like it, 605 00:28:49,871 --> 00:28:53,229 I knew I could just walk away. 606 00:28:53,469 --> 00:28:55,468 My family, they're very judgmental 607 00:28:55,517 --> 00:28:59,195 and they kind of made it seem like, oh, really? 608 00:28:59,229 --> 00:29:00,748 So this is what you're gonna do? 609 00:29:00,797 --> 00:29:02,748 So what are you getting paid? 610 00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:04,668 Who are you? I don't see you on TV. 611 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:06,267 You know, so it became, like, okay, 612 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,516 so if you're gonna do it, 613 00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:08,876 then you need to be the best at it. 614 00:29:09,128 --> 00:29:11,975 And I thrived on that and I became the best at it 615 00:29:12,132 --> 00:29:14,134 and I just kept growing and growing and growing. 616 00:29:14,323 --> 00:29:15,746 And I'm still not exactly 617 00:29:15,804 --> 00:29:17,771 where I want to be in this industry, 618 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,195 but, yeah, family had a whole lot to do with that. 619 00:29:20,229 --> 00:29:21,428 Mom has always been supportive. 620 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,788 I love you, baby. 621 00:29:22,837 --> 00:29:23,876 But, you know, 622 00:29:23,957 --> 00:29:25,460 my family made it kind of hard at first. 623 00:29:25,477 --> 00:29:28,516 But now that I am where I am, oh, my goodness, 624 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:30,868 the support that I have from them is amazing. 625 00:29:30,916 --> 00:29:32,675 My dad's in the Air Force 626 00:29:32,709 --> 00:29:33,956 and then my mom just, you know, 627 00:29:33,988 --> 00:29:35,107 she does different things, secretary, 628 00:29:35,156 --> 00:29:36,596 she's worked at a bank. 629 00:29:36,628 --> 00:29:38,035 And I lived in Oklahoma, 630 00:29:38,069 --> 00:29:40,179 like I said, the only state you can't buy porn. 631 00:29:40,197 --> 00:29:42,900 There's just no easy way to do it. 632 00:29:43,334 --> 00:29:45,916 There's no way to tell them. You can't hide it. 633 00:29:46,112 --> 00:29:47,474 Somebody's gonna see it. 634 00:29:47,577 --> 00:29:49,493 And there's no softening the fact 635 00:29:49,611 --> 00:29:51,657 that you tell your parents, "Hey, I'm doing porn." No. 636 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,418 They knew I was always in trouble, you know. 637 00:29:53,451 --> 00:29:55,305 But I actually lost my virginity 638 00:29:55,339 --> 00:29:56,586 with my first husband. 639 00:29:56,618 --> 00:29:59,466 So I actually wasn't, like, messing around. 640 00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:00,538 Like, I was always sexual... 641 00:30:00,587 --> 00:30:01,817 But not promiscuous. 642 00:30:01,866 --> 00:30:03,226 I didn't lose my virginity until I was 17. 643 00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:06,538 I came home and I said, "Mom, Dad, 644 00:30:07,529 --> 00:30:08,648 I'm moving to L.A." 645 00:30:08,666 --> 00:30:10,408 And they're, like, what? Why? 646 00:30:10,426 --> 00:30:11,849 Because it came out of nowhere. 647 00:30:11,881 --> 00:30:13,625 It wasn't, like, oh, I was thinking about doing this. 648 00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:16,393 They're, like, "Why are you moving to L.A.?" 649 00:30:16,425 --> 00:30:17,944 I was, like, "To do porn." 650 00:30:17,978 --> 00:30:20,170 My dad called me every name in the book. 651 00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,615 "What the fuck? Oh, my God!" 652 00:30:23,685 --> 00:30:27,740 My mom was just like a deer in the headlights. 653 00:30:27,772 --> 00:30:30,092 The only porno that I ever saw 654 00:30:30,141 --> 00:30:31,371 that I came across, 655 00:30:31,420 --> 00:30:32,972 my parents made a home video, 656 00:30:33,021 --> 00:30:34,443 which was quite disturbing. 657 00:30:34,477 --> 00:30:35,692 Yeah, I know. I was being nosy 658 00:30:35,741 --> 00:30:39,132 in my parents' closet with my stepsister 659 00:30:39,165 --> 00:30:40,763 and we came across some videos 660 00:30:40,781 --> 00:30:43,099 and we put it in not knowing what it was. 661 00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,833 And, yeah, not sexy, so I turned it off 662 00:30:46,867 --> 00:30:48,274 and screamed and was scarred for life. 663 00:30:48,306 --> 00:30:50,737 My father still doesn't know I ever watched it 664 00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:52,199 or ever saw it. 665 00:30:52,498 --> 00:30:54,626 When I finally started getting recognized, 666 00:30:54,674 --> 00:30:56,977 I was, like, okay, I'm a porn star. 667 00:30:57,027 --> 00:30:58,513 Now let's do this. 668 00:30:58,546 --> 00:31:01,058 Because, like, what I discussed with them earlier, it did... 669 00:31:01,090 --> 00:31:03,074 It got to a point where it was, like, okay, 670 00:31:03,106 --> 00:31:04,786 if I'm gonna do this, 671 00:31:04,818 --> 00:31:06,225 I'm gonna be the best I can be 672 00:31:06,258 --> 00:31:08,626 and maybe try and be the best there can be 673 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,257 or is or ever was. 674 00:31:10,274 --> 00:31:11,745 I wanted, at that point, 675 00:31:11,794 --> 00:31:14,379 knew, like, okay, now this is my career. 676 00:31:14,654 --> 00:31:17,485 Now I'm not just gonna do it half-assed. 677 00:31:17,842 --> 00:31:19,495 I'm gonna do it all the way. 678 00:31:19,605 --> 00:31:21,640 So I want to rise to the top. Of course. 679 00:31:22,289 --> 00:31:24,403 About three months in, I was gonna stay. 680 00:31:24,428 --> 00:31:26,476 But when I really, actually started doing porn, 681 00:31:26,508 --> 00:31:28,235 I didn't feel like I was doing porn. 682 00:31:28,268 --> 00:31:31,548 And then again, I wasn't raised even watching porn 683 00:31:31,629 --> 00:31:32,796 or knowing what porn is. 684 00:31:32,828 --> 00:31:34,699 So my mind didn't wrap around, 685 00:31:34,717 --> 00:31:35,996 like, this was porn, you know, 686 00:31:36,029 --> 00:31:37,467 because my parents never hid me from it. 687 00:31:37,516 --> 00:31:38,876 It was never in my house, it was never around. 688 00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:40,299 It wasn't something we talked about. 689 00:31:40,316 --> 00:31:41,739 I was raised very religious, 690 00:31:41,757 --> 00:31:44,504 so my mind didn't think of it as something bad either. 691 00:31:44,529 --> 00:31:46,236 I just didn't know what it was. 692 00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:49,685 I wasn't forced to do anything I didn't want to. 693 00:31:49,734 --> 00:31:50,756 Nobody ruined my life. 694 00:31:50,773 --> 00:31:52,356 It was a decision that for the rest of my life 695 00:31:52,374 --> 00:31:54,325 I'm gonna have to deal with someone questioning me 696 00:31:54,374 --> 00:31:56,516 because I did do, you know, an adult film and whatnot. 697 00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:59,234 But at the end of the day, I did it because I wanted to 698 00:31:59,344 --> 00:32:01,557 and I feel confident enough to, you know, 699 00:32:01,621 --> 00:32:03,701 take responsibility for my own actions. 700 00:32:04,137 --> 00:32:08,041 Do you think you can have this career as an adult star 701 00:32:08,073 --> 00:32:09,992 and be able to have an impact 702 00:32:10,026 --> 00:32:11,144 beyond the sex? 703 00:32:11,178 --> 00:32:13,576 You know, what happened was 704 00:32:13,625 --> 00:32:16,200 the second that I started doing scenes... 705 00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:17,385 like, when I went in, 706 00:32:17,417 --> 00:32:19,576 because it was so easy for me 707 00:32:19,609 --> 00:32:22,104 to take one look at the girls at the convention 708 00:32:22,138 --> 00:32:24,505 before I signed and see it for what it was, 709 00:32:24,537 --> 00:32:29,465 I assumed that anyone who was given a glimmer 710 00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,388 could see it for what it was. 711 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:34,476 So I didn't think that the prejudices 712 00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:36,747 would be hard ones to break down. 713 00:32:37,284 --> 00:32:40,931 And then I remember it wasn't people who knew me 714 00:32:40,965 --> 00:32:42,995 who were telling me, oh, you've made a big mistake 715 00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:45,715 and, oh, you're never gonna amount to anything now, 716 00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:46,978 you've ruined your life. 717 00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:49,956 It was strangers. And I remember at first 718 00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:52,324 I was like, ha-ha, you're funny, that's so ignorant. 719 00:32:52,356 --> 00:32:55,027 And then it was a growing voice 720 00:32:55,045 --> 00:32:56,324 as I got a growing name. 721 00:32:56,357 --> 00:32:58,099 There were more people who want to tell you 722 00:32:58,133 --> 00:32:59,779 "You're too pretty for this, you're too this for that." 723 00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:01,060 I'm, like, what do you mean? 724 00:33:01,092 --> 00:33:03,219 That makes no sense to be "too pretty" for porn. 725 00:33:03,252 --> 00:33:04,658 I mean, they want pretty. 726 00:33:04,829 --> 00:33:06,046 I mean, they don't... 727 00:33:06,971 --> 00:33:08,227 How can you be... 728 00:33:08,431 --> 00:33:11,406 It's like saying you're too good of an actress 729 00:33:11,439 --> 00:33:13,647 to be an actress. It's stupid. 730 00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:16,921 I immediately started in this business when I was 18, 731 00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:18,424 so I was still very much a baby 732 00:33:18,473 --> 00:33:19,671 and hadn't fully developed. 733 00:33:19,704 --> 00:33:22,535 My mom got implants when I was in school. 734 00:33:22,552 --> 00:33:25,111 I saw the transformation of her, 735 00:33:25,145 --> 00:33:27,015 how she felt more womanly. 736 00:33:27,032 --> 00:33:28,632 And when I signed my contract, they're, like, 737 00:33:28,664 --> 00:33:30,344 have you ever thought of getting implants? 738 00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:32,551 I was, like, I've always wanted them. 739 00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:35,671 So they're, like, okay, then we will manage you 740 00:33:35,703 --> 00:33:37,462 and, you know, take you to the right people 741 00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:39,271 so we can get it done right. 742 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,550 So I was happy 743 00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:43,478 that they guided me in the right position 744 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,350 and that I had a company that stood behind me 745 00:33:45,384 --> 00:33:47,191 even at such a young age. 746 00:33:47,508 --> 00:33:49,315 I never thought I'd be a porn star. 747 00:33:49,364 --> 00:33:51,603 I was gonna be a weather girl. 748 00:33:51,636 --> 00:33:54,916 I did, and I even had a full ride 749 00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:56,595 to O.U. for meteorology school. 750 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,376 So I was actually gonna be a weather girl. 751 00:33:59,408 --> 00:34:01,290 I was into sex, and even at 18, 752 00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:02,927 like most girls that get in. 753 00:34:03,014 --> 00:34:04,222 I was, like, oh, I could do porn. 754 00:34:04,254 --> 00:34:05,630 But I didn't want to, I was like, no, 755 00:34:05,662 --> 00:34:06,942 'cause what if I do it and then I regret it 756 00:34:06,974 --> 00:34:08,413 or I don't like it? 757 00:34:08,430 --> 00:34:09,582 You thought about that? 758 00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:11,133 I did, I did, and I waited until I was 22. 759 00:34:13,127 --> 00:34:16,486 Is there a lot of people in the industry whacked out? 760 00:34:16,914 --> 00:34:18,289 The girls especially? 761 00:34:19,477 --> 00:34:21,046 Like any industry, by the way. 762 00:34:21,164 --> 00:34:23,549 I know, you know, with the modeling industry, 763 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,115 the various industries that I've been in, of course, 764 00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:26,891 and the entertainment industry, 765 00:34:26,924 --> 00:34:28,795 drugs are prevalent. It's there. 766 00:34:28,844 --> 00:34:29,963 I know a lot of the girls were explaining 767 00:34:29,996 --> 00:34:31,435 how they've had sex with other girls 768 00:34:31,468 --> 00:34:32,843 or girls come onto the set 769 00:34:32,876 --> 00:34:34,284 and in the bathroom every five minutes. 770 00:34:34,316 --> 00:34:35,563 And none of them will say anything. 771 00:34:35,597 --> 00:34:36,700 None of them seem to want to get involved. 772 00:34:36,732 --> 00:34:38,283 And it kind of breaks my heart 773 00:34:38,317 --> 00:34:40,844 that they just want to get the job done, 774 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,732 that nobody's... 775 00:34:43,172 --> 00:34:46,467 Well, they're taking drugs on set 776 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,171 because they're not happy about what they're doing. 777 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:50,403 They're taking drugs on set 778 00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:53,188 because they see a guy with a cock like this. 779 00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:56,691 They know that's not going anywhere without a Vicodin. 780 00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:58,723 I'm blessed. I have a normal home life. 781 00:34:58,741 --> 00:35:00,483 I have a husband, I have a kid. 782 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,883 I have friends that keep me in check. 783 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:06,147 I do like some of the porn girls very much. 784 00:35:06,936 --> 00:35:08,551 They are great company. 785 00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:10,119 I have a lot of fun with them, 786 00:35:10,153 --> 00:35:11,176 a lot in common. 787 00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:12,967 And I will bring them to my house. 788 00:35:13,016 --> 00:35:14,679 Do you think these girls have lost a sense 789 00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:16,183 of who they really are as women 790 00:35:16,217 --> 00:35:17,463 when they come into that office? 791 00:35:17,496 --> 00:35:21,016 Yes. Not as women, but they become 792 00:35:21,048 --> 00:35:24,264 the person they are on the screen. 793 00:35:24,616 --> 00:35:26,935 They lose a sense of themselves. 794 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,376 Do you think they're leaving their soul at the door 795 00:35:29,408 --> 00:35:31,279 when they walk in or do you think... 796 00:35:31,328 --> 00:35:32,879 I think every time 797 00:35:32,928 --> 00:35:36,687 someone does a scene in front of a camera 798 00:35:37,610 --> 00:35:41,978 that a tiny bit of their soul disappears. 799 00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:44,895 So I think as fast as the money they might make, 800 00:35:45,021 --> 00:35:48,460 I think they will need to spend half of that on therapy. 801 00:35:48,509 --> 00:35:50,540 "Why I did it in the first place." 802 00:36:00,718 --> 00:36:02,461 Over the past several years, 803 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,781 I've been fortunate enough to photograph 804 00:36:04,814 --> 00:36:06,221 some of the most successful people 805 00:36:06,254 --> 00:36:07,853 in the entertainment industry, 806 00:36:07,887 --> 00:36:09,133 and I'm no stranger 807 00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:11,384 to creating thought-provoking imagery: 808 00:36:11,525 --> 00:36:14,692 From artwork for Grammy-nominated artists 809 00:36:15,021 --> 00:36:16,405 or exploring what happens 810 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:18,429 behind the closed doors of a hotel 811 00:36:18,592 --> 00:36:22,367 in the art photograph book Room 23... 812 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:32,108 to shooting beautiful women for erotic stories in Paris. 813 00:36:32,749 --> 00:36:37,292 This was for my first fine-art book, Paper Thin. 814 00:36:39,098 --> 00:36:40,953 Yet one of my dreams was to shoot for Playboy 815 00:36:40,987 --> 00:36:43,545 because of its iconic imagery of the past, 816 00:36:44,009 --> 00:36:45,496 and my dream was realized 817 00:36:45,529 --> 00:36:48,137 when they gave me their cover story with Lisa Rinna, 818 00:36:48,169 --> 00:36:50,761 a woman very much in touch with her body. 819 00:36:51,472 --> 00:36:54,771 Yet having the most sexualized women in bed just for me 820 00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,771 was daunting, as I felt that capturing their sensuality 821 00:36:57,804 --> 00:37:00,603 may not be as easy as one would think. 822 00:37:08,044 --> 00:37:09,755 Okay, so what we're gonna do 823 00:37:09,772 --> 00:37:11,051 is we're gonna have you on the bed, 824 00:37:11,084 --> 00:37:12,443 take your robe off, 825 00:37:12,476 --> 00:37:15,132 and have you lie in the center of the bed. 826 00:37:17,452 --> 00:37:19,195 Keep moving around the space 827 00:37:19,212 --> 00:37:20,651 and I'm gonna move around you. 828 00:37:20,684 --> 00:37:21,931 And your lights are here, 829 00:37:21,964 --> 00:37:23,883 so you're gonna play to the light. 830 00:37:23,932 --> 00:37:25,963 If you move your face away from it 831 00:37:26,012 --> 00:37:28,331 and you feel darkness, you will be in dark. 832 00:37:38,226 --> 00:37:39,377 The hardest thing for me 833 00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,633 is pulling the sexy out of the girl 834 00:37:41,666 --> 00:37:44,410 and have them really get in touch with their sensual. 835 00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:46,441 You need to soften the eyes 836 00:37:46,491 --> 00:37:50,130 so that you show a vulnerable side of yourself. 837 00:37:50,162 --> 00:37:52,042 I think that's a very hard thing to do 838 00:37:52,074 --> 00:37:54,064 because somehow your guard has to go down 839 00:37:54,089 --> 00:37:56,591 in order to allow that to come through. 840 00:37:56,616 --> 00:37:59,401 But I know that that's really the essence 841 00:37:59,434 --> 00:38:00,729 of what these images are all about 842 00:38:00,762 --> 00:38:04,809 is trying to find the you behind the porn star. 843 00:38:05,379 --> 00:38:07,539 ? So you call me 844 00:38:07,588 --> 00:38:09,186 ? I keep looking back 845 00:38:09,219 --> 00:38:10,626 ? 'Cause you want it 846 00:38:10,659 --> 00:38:12,466 ? I keep looking back 847 00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:14,307 ? 'Cause I need it 848 00:38:14,339 --> 00:38:16,018 ? I keep looking back 849 00:38:16,067 --> 00:38:17,298 ? Come on, feed it 850 00:38:17,347 --> 00:38:19,459 ? I keep looking back 851 00:38:19,491 --> 00:38:20,770 ? ' Cause I found it 852 00:38:20,787 --> 00:38:22,339 ? I keep looking back 853 00:38:22,371 --> 00:38:23,938 ? I can tease it 854 00:38:23,971 --> 00:38:27,266 ? I keep looking back for love ? 855 00:38:28,427 --> 00:38:29,706 The hardest thing I find 856 00:38:29,739 --> 00:38:31,674 is to take yourself out of where you are, 857 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:33,114 the lights, the people, the whole thing. 858 00:38:33,147 --> 00:38:34,426 So if you can put yourself in that place 859 00:38:34,475 --> 00:38:37,834 and just run with it or just connect with me 860 00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:39,754 and just be in that space, 861 00:38:39,787 --> 00:38:41,578 then it becomes a bit more of a dance. 862 00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:43,674 And I think, for me, modeling 863 00:38:43,707 --> 00:38:45,880 or being in front of the camera is a dance. 864 00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:47,856 It's knowing it's not easy, 865 00:38:48,082 --> 00:38:49,233 but when you get it down... 866 00:38:49,258 --> 00:38:50,296 And it's a silent focus. 867 00:38:50,321 --> 00:38:52,491 You can just get in that zone and nothing fazes you. 868 00:38:52,525 --> 00:38:54,052 Nothing. It's a softening of the eyes. 869 00:38:54,077 --> 00:38:55,324 It's the letting go. 870 00:38:55,357 --> 00:38:57,788 More like you've never seen something before. 871 00:38:57,821 --> 00:38:59,084 That, I think, evokes 872 00:38:59,117 --> 00:39:01,384 more of an innate connection to yourself. 873 00:39:02,992 --> 00:39:09,833 ? That's the time I'm home ? 874 00:39:09,896 --> 00:39:12,983 Not too... yeah, closed is better. Closed. 875 00:39:13,339 --> 00:39:15,226 This is so hard, I swear to God. 876 00:39:15,259 --> 00:39:16,346 No, no, I'm trying to pull you back. 877 00:39:16,371 --> 00:39:17,963 I could never be a real model. 878 00:39:18,026 --> 00:39:24,025 ? There's my girl back home 879 00:39:24,554 --> 00:39:26,185 Yeah, every single picture. 880 00:39:26,218 --> 00:39:27,353 Oh, no. I absolutely hate it. 881 00:39:27,386 --> 00:39:28,505 You know, this is the first picture 882 00:39:28,554 --> 00:39:30,265 I've ever loved, by the way. 883 00:39:30,796 --> 00:39:32,475 ? So you call me 884 00:39:32,508 --> 00:39:34,315 ? I keep looking back 885 00:39:34,348 --> 00:39:35,867 ? 'Cause you want it 886 00:39:35,916 --> 00:39:37,755 ? I keep looking back 887 00:39:37,788 --> 00:39:39,195 ? 'Cause I need it 888 00:39:39,228 --> 00:39:41,355 ? I keep looking back 889 00:39:41,388 --> 00:39:42,539 ? Come on, feed it 890 00:39:42,556 --> 00:39:44,395 ? I keep looking back 891 00:39:44,428 --> 00:39:46,235 ? 'Cause I found it 892 00:39:46,268 --> 00:39:48,155 ? I keep looking back 893 00:39:48,188 --> 00:39:49,483 ? And you tease it 894 00:39:49,516 --> 00:39:53,387 ? I keep looking back for love ? 895 00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,030 ? So you call me 896 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,790 ? I keep looking back 897 00:40:02,839 --> 00:40:04,710 ? 'Cause you want it 898 00:40:04,759 --> 00:40:06,310 ? I keep looking back 899 00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:07,750 ? 'Cause you need it 900 00:40:07,799 --> 00:40:09,478 ? I keep looking back 901 00:40:09,511 --> 00:40:11,350 ? Come on, feed it 902 00:40:11,846 --> 00:40:13,573 ? I keep looking back 903 00:40:13,606 --> 00:40:15,364 ? 'Cause I found it 904 00:40:15,382 --> 00:40:17,253 ? I keep looking back 905 00:40:17,285 --> 00:40:18,565 ? And you tease it 906 00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:21,813 ? I keep looking back for love ? 907 00:40:55,537 --> 00:40:57,952 All I know is being in front of the camera, 908 00:40:57,985 --> 00:41:00,160 and in my industry, 909 00:41:00,193 --> 00:41:04,096 it's not always the most glamorous images. 910 00:41:05,013 --> 00:41:06,733 I'm not always doing things 911 00:41:06,804 --> 00:41:13,162 that I feel is flattering or appealing in any way. 912 00:41:15,148 --> 00:41:17,850 So it's a little difficult sometimes 913 00:41:18,888 --> 00:41:22,865 to, you know, just be an object to someone. 914 00:41:23,874 --> 00:41:26,193 Gradually going into the adult industry 915 00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,545 was fairly easy for me. 916 00:41:28,577 --> 00:41:30,689 I was a bit timid, you know, at first 917 00:41:30,722 --> 00:41:35,073 and I wasn't as comfortable with my body as I am now. 918 00:41:35,106 --> 00:41:37,025 But as I grew, you know, 919 00:41:37,058 --> 00:41:40,096 it just became who I am, you know. 920 00:41:40,911 --> 00:41:43,630 I was always comfortable in my own skin. 921 00:41:43,663 --> 00:41:48,270 But I feel, like, comfortable in my own body 922 00:41:48,303 --> 00:41:49,582 is a little bit different. 923 00:41:49,631 --> 00:41:54,494 I felt like I really knew myself sexually. 924 00:41:54,527 --> 00:41:57,373 I was releasing things that I'd never done before, 925 00:41:57,391 --> 00:41:59,917 feeling things I'd never done before. 926 00:42:00,043 --> 00:42:02,971 And it was exciting. It was intriguing. 927 00:42:03,073 --> 00:42:05,121 Being sensual is like the beginnings 928 00:42:05,170 --> 00:42:09,865 that give you the butterflies or the goosebumps. 929 00:42:10,983 --> 00:42:13,030 You know, almost like a first date. 930 00:42:13,063 --> 00:42:16,950 The sensuality just, like, gets you excited for the sex. 931 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:32,502 I was shy about porn and my sexuality. 932 00:42:32,551 --> 00:42:34,822 I hated on girls like that, 933 00:42:35,444 --> 00:42:37,891 girls that embraced their sexuality 934 00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:40,178 and women that flaunted it 935 00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:43,811 or women that could watch porn with their husbands. 936 00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:46,003 I was, like, ugh, how gross. 937 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,755 And then once I started embracing that 938 00:42:48,788 --> 00:42:50,585 and finding out what I like, 939 00:42:50,726 --> 00:42:54,484 it wasn't just about him anymore. 940 00:42:54,838 --> 00:43:00,406 Sexuality is the way I would express myself 941 00:43:00,439 --> 00:43:06,086 and sensuality is how I feel on the inside. 942 00:43:07,006 --> 00:43:12,914 Yeah, I think that's how I differ the two. 943 00:43:13,008 --> 00:43:14,575 Sensuality and sexuality 944 00:43:14,608 --> 00:43:18,879 are just two tremendously different topics. 945 00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:21,455 I know that my life in the industry through myself, 946 00:43:21,488 --> 00:43:22,814 through my fans, 947 00:43:22,848 --> 00:43:25,759 through other people that I've watched, met, 948 00:43:25,776 --> 00:43:28,479 and learned from, I've grown to understand 949 00:43:28,496 --> 00:43:30,135 there's so many different levels 950 00:43:30,172 --> 00:43:33,931 of how you can show your sexuality to the world. 951 00:43:35,768 --> 00:43:39,374 I think the more women own their sexuality, 952 00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:41,432 the more the world's going to be equal, 953 00:43:41,457 --> 00:43:44,480 the more there's going to be a level of humanity, 954 00:43:44,513 --> 00:43:49,279 because when you're told that if you have these parts, 955 00:43:49,297 --> 00:43:50,925 you can only be this 956 00:43:50,996 --> 00:43:53,475 and if you have these parts, you can have this, 957 00:43:53,524 --> 00:43:55,507 then you're segregated still 958 00:43:55,524 --> 00:43:59,187 and there's not an equal playing field. 959 00:43:59,402 --> 00:44:00,713 So I don't think it's bad 960 00:44:00,746 --> 00:44:03,160 for women to completely take back their sexuality. 961 00:44:03,194 --> 00:44:04,553 And if it's a pendulum 962 00:44:04,602 --> 00:44:07,161 where it's swinging from one end to the other, 963 00:44:07,194 --> 00:44:10,393 it's gonna eventually land in the middle. 964 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:15,290 Obviously, I have moments where, you know, 965 00:44:15,323 --> 00:44:17,160 perhaps something will get under my skin. 966 00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:18,440 I'm human, you know. 967 00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:20,543 I think it's human to doubt yourself 968 00:44:20,848 --> 00:44:24,671 and I think that if you never sit and self-reflect, 969 00:44:24,688 --> 00:44:27,439 you know, you probably need to reprioritize. 970 00:44:27,488 --> 00:44:29,407 I do doubt myself from time to time, 971 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,550 but I don't know if it's 'cause 972 00:44:31,568 --> 00:44:34,910 I just gave up trying to fit a mold 973 00:44:34,928 --> 00:44:36,991 of what, like, society wants me to be. 974 00:44:39,057 --> 00:44:40,993 You see a lot of, like, bravado 975 00:44:41,026 --> 00:44:44,465 and, like, a false sense of importance with girls. 976 00:44:46,418 --> 00:44:47,664 Rule of thumb was always 977 00:44:47,697 --> 00:44:49,393 that I didn't want to do anything on camera 978 00:44:49,426 --> 00:44:51,393 that I've never done in my personal life. 979 00:44:51,426 --> 00:44:55,585 I've watched so many girls do their first anal scene 980 00:44:56,031 --> 00:44:58,334 because they got offered a little bit more money for it 981 00:44:58,351 --> 00:44:59,630 and they were gonna do it on camera 982 00:44:59,663 --> 00:45:01,533 or their first DP or their first gang bang. 983 00:45:01,551 --> 00:45:03,470 And I think to myself, when I'm older 984 00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:05,150 and I'm looking back at my life, 985 00:45:05,183 --> 00:45:09,353 do I want to remember all of those experiences that way? 986 00:45:09,494 --> 00:45:11,669 I came in wanting to be vulnerable 987 00:45:11,701 --> 00:45:13,906 and wanting to be honest 988 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,751 and share the person outside of just the body 989 00:45:18,784 --> 00:45:20,222 doing things onscreen. 990 00:45:20,255 --> 00:45:23,343 And I wanted to bring that entire personality to it. 991 00:45:23,392 --> 00:45:24,591 I mean, I was a shy kid. 992 00:45:24,623 --> 00:45:26,690 I couldn't give a book report in class. 993 00:45:26,729 --> 00:45:29,977 I would stutter and get red and shake. 994 00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:31,540 I was too nervous. 995 00:45:32,377 --> 00:45:34,104 And that's actually one thing 996 00:45:34,138 --> 00:45:35,977 I can really thank the adult industry for. 997 00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:38,056 I needed help socially opening up 998 00:45:38,089 --> 00:45:41,496 and taking risks and putting myself out there. 999 00:45:41,545 --> 00:45:43,368 And so now I've gone from the kid 1000 00:45:43,386 --> 00:45:44,665 who can't stand up in front of class 1001 00:45:44,698 --> 00:45:46,985 to a porn star who can host award shows 1002 00:45:47,018 --> 00:45:48,105 and go on television 1003 00:45:48,138 --> 00:45:49,945 and answer the most intimate, personal, 1004 00:45:50,026 --> 00:45:55,422 almost offensive questions, and it doesn't even faze me. 1005 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,604 It's like being a superhero. 1006 00:45:57,745 --> 00:46:01,311 It really helps to have a stage name, of course. 1007 00:46:01,345 --> 00:46:03,983 This is better to sell. 1008 00:46:05,461 --> 00:46:08,692 It can become a brand, 1009 00:46:09,528 --> 00:46:14,537 but it also helps because when you build a character, 1010 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,895 you give yourself another chance to have a second life. 1011 00:46:20,742 --> 00:46:26,044 We look at the world and we think we know 1012 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,065 what the world wants to see 1013 00:46:28,112 --> 00:46:31,318 and then we project that into our personalities. 1014 00:46:31,435 --> 00:46:34,474 So I have Ash on set doing my movies 1015 00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:38,681 and she's a million and one times less censored 1016 00:46:38,714 --> 00:46:40,312 than, you know, 1017 00:46:40,361 --> 00:46:42,505 Ash out to eat at dinner in Hollywood. 1018 00:46:44,973 --> 00:46:47,277 I guess she's someone that I had to invent 1019 00:46:47,310 --> 00:46:52,212 to separate myself from being in the Fantasyland, 1020 00:46:52,259 --> 00:46:56,275 being in Neverland or being in the real world 1021 00:46:56,308 --> 00:46:58,083 where you kind of have to be an adult 1022 00:46:58,111 --> 00:47:00,446 and, you know, be practical, 1023 00:47:00,798 --> 00:47:03,084 'cause Asphxia is not practical at all. 1024 00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,678 She's very much... she's just insane, 1025 00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:11,282 but you have to have, you know, a balance of the two. 1026 00:47:11,299 --> 00:47:12,658 I'm glad. 1027 00:47:12,692 --> 00:47:14,819 In a lot of ways, I feel Asphxia saved my life 1028 00:47:14,852 --> 00:47:18,467 because she's helped me come out of my shell 1029 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:22,131 and I feel like I don't care if I make an ass of myself 1030 00:47:22,163 --> 00:47:24,851 or, you know, act inappropriate 1031 00:47:24,876 --> 00:47:26,997 because I won't feel shameful 1032 00:47:27,075 --> 00:47:29,281 because Asphxia doesn't feel shameful. 1033 00:47:29,314 --> 00:47:30,689 Well, I am. 1034 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:34,081 The other half of me would never do anything like that. 1035 00:47:34,114 --> 00:47:36,993 I really don't think it's quite hit me yet 1036 00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:38,753 that I'm a porn star. 1037 00:47:38,771 --> 00:47:41,809 See, I even make a bizarre face when I say that. 1038 00:47:42,181 --> 00:47:43,540 Porn star? Am I? 1039 00:47:43,572 --> 00:47:46,947 In this industry, everyone has two names most times, 1040 00:47:46,981 --> 00:47:51,156 so very cliché, and I didn't want that. 1041 00:47:51,339 --> 00:47:52,571 My agent was like, you know, 1042 00:47:52,603 --> 00:47:54,139 you have to have a last name. 1043 00:47:54,219 --> 00:47:56,059 He's, like, why don't you use Alexis Texas 1044 00:47:56,091 --> 00:47:57,658 because you're from Texas? 1045 00:47:58,304 --> 00:48:01,870 And at first, I found it very kind of silly 1046 00:48:02,399 --> 00:48:04,229 and I didn't think it was very sexy. 1047 00:48:04,253 --> 00:48:07,420 But I know I also didn't want to be a Love or a Sky 1048 00:48:07,452 --> 00:48:09,452 or just the typical porno names. 1049 00:48:10,193 --> 00:48:14,063 Even though as much as Alexis Texas is a persona, 1050 00:48:14,112 --> 00:48:16,991 it's still, like I said, a part of Alexis. 1051 00:48:17,025 --> 00:48:19,103 And, you know, I've made that character 1052 00:48:19,136 --> 00:48:20,304 who I want it to be, 1053 00:48:20,353 --> 00:48:21,824 who I knew people would like 1054 00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:23,151 or the things that people like. 1055 00:48:23,185 --> 00:48:26,624 And I still, you know, am perfecting that character. 1056 00:48:27,499 --> 00:48:30,426 I've always been Nina, you know. 1057 00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:32,457 And even when I'm on sets, 1058 00:48:32,475 --> 00:48:35,786 I usually have people address me by my real name. 1059 00:48:35,818 --> 00:48:37,993 I find it weird to respond to Brooklyn 1060 00:48:38,027 --> 00:48:40,425 and sometimes there's a lag in my response 1061 00:48:40,458 --> 00:48:41,914 when my name is called 1062 00:48:41,946 --> 00:48:45,332 'cause I don't realize people are talking to me. 1063 00:48:45,356 --> 00:48:48,356 I think I probably just chose the stage name 1064 00:48:48,381 --> 00:48:51,068 'cause that's what people do, you know. 1065 00:48:52,323 --> 00:48:54,114 There is a difference 1066 00:48:54,131 --> 00:48:57,443 between people that are just working actors in porn 1067 00:48:57,475 --> 00:49:01,475 and then people that are porn stars, I guess. 1068 00:49:01,492 --> 00:49:06,434 They see themselves as a movie star or a rock star, 1069 00:49:07,402 --> 00:49:10,633 somebody that's, like, bigger than life, you know, 1070 00:49:10,666 --> 00:49:12,953 instead of just this is your job, you know, 1071 00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:14,440 and you just do it as a job, 1072 00:49:14,474 --> 00:49:16,808 and when you go home, you're, like, your normal self. 1073 00:49:16,842 --> 00:49:19,800 I think sometimes they actually transform 1074 00:49:19,833 --> 00:49:22,712 into these characters that they create. 1075 00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:26,082 Civilians, they don't understand. 1076 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:27,788 That's why we call you civilians, 1077 00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,227 because you're different. You don't understand. 1078 00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:30,635 You're not us. 1079 00:49:30,669 --> 00:49:32,584 You don't understand the risks that we take. 1080 00:49:32,615 --> 00:49:34,341 You don't understand the things that we've gone through 1081 00:49:34,376 --> 00:49:35,495 to be where we are. 1082 00:49:35,544 --> 00:49:36,662 You don't understand the ridicule 1083 00:49:36,696 --> 00:49:39,015 that the civilians give us, you know. 1084 00:49:39,064 --> 00:49:41,574 I mean, we have fans. We have fans that love us. 1085 00:49:41,623 --> 00:49:44,054 But we have people who hate us and spit on us. 1086 00:49:44,087 --> 00:49:46,503 We use the term civilian 1087 00:49:46,535 --> 00:49:48,775 as somebody basically who doesn't do porn 1088 00:49:48,824 --> 00:49:52,103 or, you know, isn't involved in the adult world. 1089 00:49:52,768 --> 00:49:55,712 And they don't think the same way, you know, we do. 1090 00:49:55,744 --> 00:49:57,839 Like, sex and our body parts 1091 00:49:57,857 --> 00:49:59,279 and the things that happen to our bodies 1092 00:49:59,296 --> 00:50:00,559 are part of our everyday life 1093 00:50:00,577 --> 00:50:01,936 and we're not afraid to talk about it. 1094 00:50:01,968 --> 00:50:04,175 It's hard to say that we're different people 1095 00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:05,647 because it's really not. 1096 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,768 It's just I'm willing to put my sex life on camera 1097 00:50:08,801 --> 00:50:11,007 and talk about it, and you're not. 1098 00:50:11,544 --> 00:50:13,531 We're not that different, and that's the point. 1099 00:50:13,556 --> 00:50:15,316 We have no filter. 1100 00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:17,236 There you go. Civilians have filters. 1101 00:50:17,269 --> 00:50:19,156 We don't have any. 1102 00:50:19,189 --> 00:50:22,386 Sometimes people go, oh, so what you do? 1103 00:50:22,411 --> 00:50:24,148 I'm, like, I act and model. 1104 00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:25,908 What movies have you been in? 1105 00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:27,428 Who do you model for? And I'm, like, mmm, 1106 00:50:27,477 --> 00:50:33,075 it's, like, naughty modeling, and they go, oh. 1107 00:50:34,042 --> 00:50:36,729 We have real feelings and personalities. 1108 00:50:36,763 --> 00:50:37,849 We are real people. 1109 00:50:37,882 --> 00:50:39,001 Just because you don't like me 1110 00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:40,233 or you don't like what I do, 1111 00:50:40,251 --> 00:50:42,250 don't come at me, like, you know, 1112 00:50:42,282 --> 00:50:44,122 snobby or bitchy, you know. 1113 00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:45,450 Just because I do porn 1114 00:50:45,482 --> 00:50:48,233 doesn't mean that I'm just a filthy, disgusting person. 1115 00:50:48,250 --> 00:50:49,561 We're probably a lot cleaner 1116 00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:51,289 than some of the civilians out there, 1117 00:50:51,322 --> 00:50:54,195 and it baffles me the way that we get treated. 1118 00:50:54,368 --> 00:50:56,223 I've had a couple people, like, 1119 00:50:56,257 --> 00:50:58,176 "Go back from where you come from." 1120 00:50:58,208 --> 00:50:59,344 I'm, like, where do I come from? 1121 00:50:59,376 --> 00:51:01,183 Am I a different breed or something? 1122 00:51:01,216 --> 00:51:04,655 Actually, I had a girl throw me a Bible at me. 1123 00:51:04,689 --> 00:51:06,367 Honestly, it was kind of funny. 1124 00:51:06,384 --> 00:51:08,447 I'm not gonna lie. I kind of laughed. 1125 00:51:08,464 --> 00:51:09,887 But I was, like, just because 1126 00:51:09,905 --> 00:51:12,464 I choose to do something that you don't agree with, 1127 00:51:12,496 --> 00:51:15,215 you know, one, how do you know who I am 1128 00:51:15,618 --> 00:51:17,735 'cause that obviously means you watched it 1129 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,733 or you knew me somehow. 1130 00:51:19,774 --> 00:51:22,556 But it never made me regret. I was, like, you know, 1131 00:51:22,573 --> 00:51:26,764 it just made me start hating how judgmental people are. 1132 00:51:26,813 --> 00:51:29,533 I never, ever regretted anything I've done. 1133 00:51:29,565 --> 00:51:31,724 Like, I love it so much, you know. 1134 00:51:31,773 --> 00:51:32,956 Otherwise I wouldn't do it. 1135 00:51:32,974 --> 00:51:35,293 I feel like I have an elegance in me 1136 00:51:35,325 --> 00:51:39,964 and, I don't know, like, a beauty 1137 00:51:39,997 --> 00:51:43,404 in the filthy things that I do. 1138 00:51:44,324 --> 00:51:46,595 And I've been very promiscuous 1139 00:51:46,628 --> 00:51:47,763 my whole entire life. 1140 00:51:47,796 --> 00:51:49,155 That's just the way I am. 1141 00:51:49,188 --> 00:51:51,843 I've never been called a slut or a dirty whore. 1142 00:51:51,877 --> 00:51:53,475 Maybe on the DVDs. 1143 00:51:53,508 --> 00:51:54,915 You know how it is in the industry. 1144 00:51:54,948 --> 00:51:56,884 But in real life, I've never been... 1145 00:51:56,916 --> 00:51:59,764 and even now, my friends look at me 1146 00:51:59,796 --> 00:52:01,316 and I can see in a very classy way 1147 00:52:01,348 --> 00:52:02,563 I'm never looked at. 1148 00:52:02,628 --> 00:52:05,075 So beauty and filth is the balance 1149 00:52:05,157 --> 00:52:08,227 between the beautiful woman that I am 1150 00:52:08,245 --> 00:52:10,307 and the filthy whore. 1151 00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:48,697 I've loved what I do 1152 00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:50,927 ever since the first time I stepped on film. 1153 00:52:50,952 --> 00:52:53,190 Nothing could have taught me what I've learned in porn. 1154 00:52:53,224 --> 00:52:57,350 In college, there is no class for that. 1155 00:52:57,399 --> 00:53:00,039 So I'm kind of getting everything I need 1156 00:53:00,071 --> 00:53:01,638 to feel fulfilled from porn. 1157 00:53:01,671 --> 00:53:04,070 If it's not giving it to me directly, 1158 00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:05,510 it's financing it 1159 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,319 or it's sending me off to weird countries 1160 00:53:07,383 --> 00:53:12,598 where I run into the most amazing things I've ever seen. 1161 00:53:45,206 --> 00:53:48,150 I have to say, I thought when I got in the business, 1162 00:53:48,182 --> 00:53:50,709 there was going to be platters of cocaine everywhere 1163 00:53:50,742 --> 00:53:54,437 and champagne and drinking and all that stuff. 1164 00:53:54,471 --> 00:53:56,438 And it wasn't at all like that. 1165 00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:59,221 It was makeup on set at 7 A.M. 1166 00:53:59,238 --> 00:54:00,838 And we did features in the nineties. 1167 00:54:00,918 --> 00:54:04,870 We didn't have gonzo, so you were on set 16 hours a day. 1168 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,524 You had your dialogue, 1169 00:54:07,564 --> 00:54:09,403 you were there all day long working. 1170 00:54:09,436 --> 00:54:11,115 So it was a lot of difference. 1171 00:54:11,148 --> 00:54:12,875 I kind of actually wish 1172 00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:14,654 there was a little more party, 1173 00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:17,677 but it wasn't at all like that. 1174 00:54:18,121 --> 00:54:21,721 When I was 18, probably about 18 to 20, 1175 00:54:21,753 --> 00:54:23,704 I was making more gonzo movies, 1176 00:54:23,721 --> 00:54:25,640 which are just straight sex, 1177 00:54:25,673 --> 00:54:27,881 wham-bam- thank-you-ma'am type, 1178 00:54:27,913 --> 00:54:30,120 not really high-end production. 1179 00:54:30,153 --> 00:54:32,312 Well, I love to be choked. I love to be slapped. 1180 00:54:32,361 --> 00:54:35,752 I love to spit. I love to smack girls. 1181 00:54:35,801 --> 00:54:36,920 I love to... I am dirty. 1182 00:54:36,953 --> 00:54:38,200 Just 'cause I look like this 1183 00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:41,304 doesn't mean that I don't get crazy. 1184 00:54:41,321 --> 00:54:42,920 That's what I like to do sexually. 1185 00:54:42,953 --> 00:54:47,064 Just 'cause that's taboo to what everybody wants to think, 1186 00:54:48,671 --> 00:54:51,262 in my world I guarantee you 1187 00:54:51,303 --> 00:54:55,383 80% of people sexually have been choked or smacked 1188 00:54:55,415 --> 00:54:57,445 or hit or got a little rough in their life. 1189 00:54:57,464 --> 00:55:00,054 They're just afraid to say that it's okay. 1190 00:55:00,103 --> 00:55:02,582 So for whatever reason, you know, 1191 00:55:02,616 --> 00:55:04,294 the people that have decided to speak up 1192 00:55:04,327 --> 00:55:08,023 have pointed out that maybe that's, you know, wrong 1193 00:55:08,055 --> 00:55:10,246 when it's really not. It's really not. 1194 00:55:10,296 --> 00:55:11,814 I guess it really comes down 1195 00:55:11,846 --> 00:55:14,246 to people are just afraid to express themselves 1196 00:55:14,263 --> 00:55:19,094 and they want to pick on the ones that can. 1197 00:55:20,104 --> 00:55:22,439 But then sometimes it'll be, like, times 1198 00:55:22,473 --> 00:55:25,527 when the guy will want to call you, like, really dirty names 1199 00:55:25,622 --> 00:55:28,357 and I'm terrible for it, 1200 00:55:28,498 --> 00:55:30,352 because a lot of my fans like me to say, 1201 00:55:30,385 --> 00:55:32,737 "Oh, come fuck me, you dirty bastard." 1202 00:55:33,216 --> 00:55:36,031 But if a guy suddenly wanted to turn around to me 1203 00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:39,632 and say, like, "Get down on your knees, you dirty bitch, 1204 00:55:39,665 --> 00:55:41,200 and suck my cock," 1205 00:55:41,544 --> 00:55:44,279 I don't know whether I could let him get away with it. 1206 00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:50,512 If you want to enjoy porn, never go to a porn set 1207 00:55:50,583 --> 00:55:54,982 because if you actually saw what went on to make that movie, 1208 00:55:55,031 --> 00:55:59,142 you would probably never jerk off to it again. 1209 00:55:59,191 --> 00:56:00,790 When we film, it is mechanical 1210 00:56:00,823 --> 00:56:04,534 because you are going from position A to B to C. 1211 00:56:05,298 --> 00:56:06,769 You're stopping in between. 1212 00:56:06,810 --> 00:56:09,332 You're not trying to catch smooth transitions. 1213 00:56:09,364 --> 00:56:11,444 I thought, you know, there was the chance when I flew out here 1214 00:56:11,492 --> 00:56:15,363 that I would be shooting in some overweight guy's basement. 1215 00:56:15,396 --> 00:56:16,515 You know what I mean? 1216 00:56:16,532 --> 00:56:18,754 And for the most part, you know, 1217 00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,971 the shoots that I've been on have been pretty professional. 1218 00:56:22,497 --> 00:56:24,544 We have sex on camera. 1219 00:56:24,857 --> 00:56:26,535 When you're behind the scenes, 1220 00:56:26,562 --> 00:56:27,921 it's not that glamorous. 1221 00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:30,129 I mean, the finished product is 1222 00:56:30,162 --> 00:56:32,512 and, yes, we please our customers, 1223 00:56:32,531 --> 00:56:35,121 but when we're filming it, it's not always that way. 1224 00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:38,369 So it's very much when people look down on it, 1225 00:56:38,402 --> 00:56:40,562 you're, like, it actually wasn't as easy 1226 00:56:40,610 --> 00:56:43,083 and as much fun as you think it is, you know. 1227 00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:44,613 So you're judging something 1228 00:56:44,645 --> 00:56:46,387 when you haven't even been on set. 1229 00:56:46,404 --> 00:56:47,524 You don't know all the hardships, 1230 00:56:47,556 --> 00:56:50,915 and it's really hard for the men. 1231 00:56:51,744 --> 00:56:53,668 It's more of a job for the men 1232 00:56:53,693 --> 00:56:57,311 because they have to keep going no matter what. 1233 00:57:01,466 --> 00:57:03,722 You know, if I could be in this industry forever, 1234 00:57:03,755 --> 00:57:05,034 I would be fine with that. 1235 00:57:05,083 --> 00:57:07,802 And then just independently, you know, you know, 1236 00:57:07,835 --> 00:57:09,562 continue in the pursuit of knowledge 1237 00:57:09,595 --> 00:57:12,122 and go to school just for the sake of doing it. 1238 00:57:12,155 --> 00:57:13,466 But, unfortunately, I don't think 1239 00:57:13,483 --> 00:57:14,922 that that's where we're headed 1240 00:57:14,955 --> 00:57:17,482 with, you know, the piracy 1241 00:57:17,515 --> 00:57:20,154 and the economy being such an issue. 1242 00:57:21,486 --> 00:57:24,093 I don't know that this will last 1243 00:57:24,142 --> 00:57:26,764 for more than five years. 1244 00:57:26,782 --> 00:57:28,493 I definitely don't think so. 1245 00:57:28,525 --> 00:57:31,186 It does definitely raise the question in my mind, 1246 00:57:31,256 --> 00:57:34,813 like, shit, did I maybe jump into this 1247 00:57:36,025 --> 00:57:37,624 and did I fuck myself? 1248 00:57:37,687 --> 00:57:39,960 I don't know. No pun intended. 1249 00:57:40,015 --> 00:57:41,774 I don't think I would have done well 1250 00:57:41,807 --> 00:57:44,526 being in this industry when I was younger. 1251 00:57:45,045 --> 00:57:48,308 I don't think I was as strong a person, 1252 00:57:48,341 --> 00:57:50,964 and I don't know. 1253 00:57:50,997 --> 00:57:53,988 I just wasn't as confident in myself 1254 00:57:54,545 --> 00:57:56,448 and I think I would have ended up 1255 00:57:56,465 --> 00:57:57,760 being one of them young girls 1256 00:57:57,793 --> 00:57:59,984 that gets manipulated. 1257 00:58:00,017 --> 00:58:03,184 If you asked me where the girls of 2005 were, 1258 00:58:03,217 --> 00:58:04,336 they're gone. 1259 00:58:04,385 --> 00:58:05,584 Nobody knows them. 1260 00:58:05,617 --> 00:58:07,008 The girls now 1261 00:58:07,834 --> 00:58:10,366 don't even know the porn stars of my era 1262 00:58:10,421 --> 00:58:12,260 and eventually they will fade away. 1263 00:58:12,293 --> 00:58:14,626 You won't be needed anymore. 1264 00:58:14,728 --> 00:58:17,079 Your services will not be needed. 1265 00:58:17,112 --> 00:58:19,287 You will be what they call shot-out 1266 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,602 and they will move on to the next girls. 1267 00:58:23,759 --> 00:58:25,066 One time I did a scene 1268 00:58:25,091 --> 00:58:27,051 and I felt like I was a piece of meat, 1269 00:58:27,076 --> 00:58:29,204 like, thrown into a lion's cage. 1270 00:58:29,253 --> 00:58:32,515 I cried after the scene because I felt, like, so used. 1271 00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:37,332 Like, no one asked me if I wanted to drink 12 loads 1272 00:58:37,365 --> 00:58:39,444 out of a cup with a straw. No one asked me that. 1273 00:58:39,493 --> 00:58:42,602 They just told everybody else 1274 00:58:42,665 --> 00:58:44,313 this is what we're gonna do and we're not gonna ask her 1275 00:58:44,346 --> 00:58:46,217 'cause they knew I wasn't gonna want to do it. 1276 00:58:46,234 --> 00:58:47,593 But they don't think about, like, 1277 00:58:47,626 --> 00:58:49,593 how that person's gonna feel when they're done 1278 00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,065 and how that affects them 1279 00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:53,790 for the rest of their lives, you know. 1280 00:58:55,395 --> 00:58:59,115 I always feel that people think that porn 1281 00:58:59,217 --> 00:59:02,332 causes these girls to have drug problems 1282 00:59:02,445 --> 00:59:04,732 and, you know, bad influences and all that. 1283 00:59:04,757 --> 00:59:06,356 But for me, myself, 1284 00:59:06,371 --> 00:59:10,098 I did drugs previous to entering the business 1285 00:59:10,147 --> 00:59:12,466 and it just gave me more time and more money 1286 00:59:12,499 --> 00:59:14,146 to do more drugs. 1287 00:59:14,739 --> 00:59:19,251 So it didn't really, you know, influence me. 1288 00:59:19,268 --> 00:59:22,899 I had already been doing it. 1289 00:59:22,932 --> 00:59:25,939 I was no longer able to work without partying 1290 00:59:25,972 --> 00:59:28,819 and when I stopped partying, I couldn't work, 1291 00:59:28,852 --> 00:59:32,099 so I kind of had to say goodbye. 1292 00:59:32,443 --> 00:59:34,042 It's good to be in the place that I am 1293 00:59:34,075 --> 00:59:35,754 where I'm comfortable with myself 1294 00:59:35,802 --> 00:59:38,425 and I'm happy for once. 1295 00:59:39,294 --> 00:59:42,253 I have a very good life now. 1296 00:59:44,582 --> 00:59:50,308 You know, you get where your whole life is just... 1297 00:59:50,808 --> 00:59:54,055 You have to keep this look in order to make money 1298 00:59:54,088 --> 00:59:56,807 and it gets very difficult, you know, 1299 00:59:56,856 --> 00:59:58,535 where if you don't have it, 1300 00:59:58,568 --> 01:00:00,407 you're not gonna be able to make money. 1301 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,678 But you have to eventually use your head, 1302 01:00:02,696 --> 01:00:05,975 and that's what my husband helps me with. 1303 01:00:06,008 --> 01:00:09,079 You don't have to look like this forever. 1304 01:00:11,864 --> 01:00:14,503 Lucky for me, he's in the same line of work. 1305 01:00:14,536 --> 01:00:18,855 It's really nice to come home to someone 1306 01:00:18,904 --> 01:00:20,279 and just complain 1307 01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:22,695 about everything that happened through your day 1308 01:00:22,744 --> 01:00:24,903 or just come home and be ecstatic 1309 01:00:24,936 --> 01:00:26,647 about everything that you did in your day 1310 01:00:26,664 --> 01:00:29,046 and they're cool about it. 1311 01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:32,860 Everyone I date, like, needs to know going in what I do, 1312 01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:34,581 and I try to make that a point, 1313 01:00:34,614 --> 01:00:37,060 because if you're not gonna be okay with it right off the bat, 1314 01:00:37,094 --> 01:00:38,421 you're never gonna be okay with it. 1315 01:00:38,454 --> 01:00:41,444 Porno sex and home sex are completely different things, 1316 01:00:41,882 --> 01:00:43,402 entirely different situations. 1317 01:00:43,435 --> 01:00:45,242 Like, I get asked that all the time 1318 01:00:45,275 --> 01:00:46,842 if people think that, you know, 1319 01:00:46,875 --> 01:00:50,474 that that's, like, you know, how we all have sex at home. 1320 01:00:50,506 --> 01:00:53,193 Like, it's not how we all have sex at home at all. 1321 01:00:53,226 --> 01:00:55,252 It's completely different. 1322 01:00:55,463 --> 01:00:58,502 Well, you know, my man says there is no such thing 1323 01:00:58,535 --> 01:01:00,903 as a monogamous relationship with a porn star. 1324 01:01:00,936 --> 01:01:03,175 That's how he feels and I feel totally opposite, 1325 01:01:03,224 --> 01:01:04,694 I'm sure, because this is my livelihood. 1326 01:01:04,727 --> 01:01:06,487 This is my work, this is what I do for a living. 1327 01:01:06,504 --> 01:01:10,423 And there are instances, yes, where I enjoy myself on set. 1328 01:01:10,455 --> 01:01:11,495 I love it. 1329 01:01:11,544 --> 01:01:13,047 There are other times where I don't enjoy it 1330 01:01:13,064 --> 01:01:14,375 and it is just work. 1331 01:01:14,424 --> 01:01:17,095 So, I mean, you have to look at that in all aspects 1332 01:01:17,144 --> 01:01:18,951 and they don't, and they don't understand. 1333 01:01:18,984 --> 01:01:22,865 And it messes with us especially as a woman 1334 01:01:23,022 --> 01:01:25,420 being emotional and having someone cheat on you 1335 01:01:25,454 --> 01:01:26,765 and hurt you in these ways 1336 01:01:26,798 --> 01:01:29,204 because this is what you do and you're nasty. 1337 01:01:29,229 --> 01:01:31,067 Oh, my gosh, like, are you serious? 1338 01:01:31,101 --> 01:01:32,492 It hurts your feelings. 1339 01:01:32,509 --> 01:01:34,588 So at this point, I'm almost through with civilians 1340 01:01:34,621 --> 01:01:37,771 and I'm thinking about just fucking with porn stars only. 1341 01:01:39,892 --> 01:01:42,371 Porn is... you're selling a product. 1342 01:01:42,404 --> 01:01:44,371 Your person, your body, is your product. 1343 01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:46,019 I like going to work. It's not, like, a chore. 1344 01:01:46,052 --> 01:01:48,691 It's not like it's something I don't want to do. 1345 01:01:49,138 --> 01:01:52,417 I love it. 1346 01:01:52,450 --> 01:01:55,776 The first thing I ever got was chlamydia and I cried. 1347 01:01:55,810 --> 01:01:59,121 But what I looked back and I thought was so cool 1348 01:02:00,471 --> 01:02:02,710 is that the guy actually called me 1349 01:02:02,743 --> 01:02:04,550 and told me on the phone, you know, 1350 01:02:04,582 --> 01:02:05,990 that his test came back positive for it. 1351 01:02:06,023 --> 01:02:07,910 And this is before they even tested for that. 1352 01:02:07,943 --> 01:02:09,190 He, this performer 1353 01:02:09,223 --> 01:02:11,014 would go and get the test anyway, 1354 01:02:11,031 --> 01:02:13,829 and I thought that was really cool. 1355 01:02:13,863 --> 01:02:18,342 And I've had gonorrhea, you know, I have herpes. 1356 01:02:18,374 --> 01:02:20,038 Is that it? 1357 01:02:20,071 --> 01:02:21,526 Yeah, I've been lucky enough to not get, 1358 01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,190 you know, a lot of girls get HPV. 1359 01:02:23,223 --> 01:02:24,341 The guys have it, too. 1360 01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:26,096 They just don't... you know. 1361 01:02:26,308 --> 01:02:27,571 Sometimes you have stuff 1362 01:02:27,604 --> 01:02:28,979 and you just don't know you have it. 1363 01:02:29,012 --> 01:02:30,514 A lot of people have herpes don't know they have it. 1364 01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:31,699 And they blame it on porn, right? 1365 01:02:31,716 --> 01:02:33,011 Like, did you do a full panel 1366 01:02:33,043 --> 01:02:34,098 before you got in the business 1367 01:02:34,116 --> 01:02:35,218 and see where you're at? 1368 01:02:35,236 --> 01:02:37,027 'Cause you can have herpes 1369 01:02:37,076 --> 01:02:39,347 and not ever have an outbreak, you know. 1370 01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:40,691 And then you can transfer it 1371 01:02:40,723 --> 01:02:42,515 without even having an outbreak. 1372 01:02:42,610 --> 01:02:48,256 So I kind of just assume most people have it. 1373 01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:51,297 Of course, in the business when a new girl comes, 1374 01:02:51,399 --> 01:02:53,461 you don't tell her the dark side. 1375 01:02:53,479 --> 01:02:55,398 I'm sure the same with the modeling business 1376 01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:56,678 and everything else. 1377 01:02:56,711 --> 01:02:58,309 You're not gonna sit there and say, 1378 01:02:58,358 --> 01:03:00,038 well, you might have an STD, 1379 01:03:00,071 --> 01:03:03,190 you're going to definitely get an STD. 1380 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,333 And there's all these factors 1381 01:03:05,367 --> 01:03:07,302 besides all the other stuff I talked about. 1382 01:03:07,334 --> 01:03:10,166 But the health reasons, you know, 1383 01:03:10,183 --> 01:03:13,174 if you do get something, 1384 01:03:14,066 --> 01:03:17,313 health insurance won't even cover you. 1385 01:03:17,362 --> 01:03:19,152 You know, a lot of these girls 1386 01:03:19,185 --> 01:03:20,993 don't have health insurance. 1387 01:03:21,881 --> 01:03:25,155 They don't go visit their gynecologist regularly. 1388 01:03:25,233 --> 01:03:28,225 They don't know anything that's happening down there. 1389 01:03:28,257 --> 01:03:30,784 If they do catch something, you know, 1390 01:03:30,817 --> 01:03:32,478 it is, it's very scary. 1391 01:03:32,534 --> 01:03:34,305 And girls come in the business 1392 01:03:34,353 --> 01:03:37,728 and when a scare happens, it drives me crazy 1393 01:03:38,451 --> 01:03:40,641 when they all jump on the bandwagon, 1394 01:03:40,675 --> 01:03:44,081 like, oh, my God, you mean you can catch AIDS from this? 1395 01:03:44,115 --> 01:03:45,522 I'm, like, what do you think 1396 01:03:45,602 --> 01:03:47,202 you get paid the big bucks for? 1397 01:03:47,235 --> 01:03:50,034 You know, stunt guys get paid a lot of money. 1398 01:03:50,083 --> 01:03:52,513 You know why? They put their life on the line. 1399 01:03:52,546 --> 01:03:54,322 And the same... As soon as you start 1400 01:03:54,355 --> 01:03:57,073 having sex in this business without a condom, 1401 01:03:57,122 --> 01:03:58,785 you're putting your life on the line. 1402 01:03:58,803 --> 01:04:01,921 So that's why you get paid the big bucks. 1403 01:04:02,253 --> 01:04:04,891 I know each day that I work, I'm taking a risk. 1404 01:04:05,215 --> 01:04:07,465 I couldn't imagine not being with someone 1405 01:04:07,490 --> 01:04:09,375 that didn't test regularly like I do. 1406 01:04:10,305 --> 01:04:12,983 Like, it makes you much more aware 1407 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,624 of what's going on in the world. 1408 01:04:14,649 --> 01:04:16,665 When you think about how many people 1409 01:04:16,697 --> 01:04:18,363 hook up at bars with other people 1410 01:04:18,410 --> 01:04:19,817 and they're actually more of a threat 1411 01:04:19,849 --> 01:04:21,240 than the adult industry are 1412 01:04:21,258 --> 01:04:23,800 to its performers in a circle. 1413 01:04:23,818 --> 01:04:24,969 Like, if you go out 1414 01:04:25,018 --> 01:04:26,489 and have sex with someone in a bar, 1415 01:04:26,521 --> 01:04:27,817 you don't know where they've been. 1416 01:04:27,850 --> 01:04:29,080 You don't know what sexual habits they have, 1417 01:04:29,097 --> 01:04:31,497 what hygiene they have. 1418 01:04:31,933 --> 01:04:33,565 But we do. 1419 01:04:33,597 --> 01:04:35,234 We know what each other is doing. 1420 01:04:35,259 --> 01:04:37,658 We have a regimen and we get tested. 1421 01:04:38,046 --> 01:04:40,444 So it's a lot safer and I would hope 1422 01:04:40,477 --> 01:04:43,740 that we are promoting safer sex to some degree. 1423 01:04:43,756 --> 01:04:46,043 The fact is, you're not paying me to have sex. 1424 01:04:46,068 --> 01:04:47,732 You're paying me for the right 1425 01:04:47,757 --> 01:04:50,011 to exploit that sex... not in a bad way... 1426 01:04:50,058 --> 01:04:51,290 but you're paying me 1427 01:04:51,339 --> 01:04:52,729 for the right to make money off of it. 1428 01:04:52,778 --> 01:04:53,962 And if you're gonna make money off of it, 1429 01:04:53,979 --> 01:04:55,257 I'm gonna make money off of it. 1430 01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:57,658 Otherwise, I'll have sex behind closed doors 1431 01:04:57,690 --> 01:04:59,770 or I'll go film myself having sex. 1432 01:04:59,818 --> 01:05:02,537 So it's more like a fair labor thing 1433 01:05:02,571 --> 01:05:05,609 than it is I would or wouldn't do it 1434 01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:06,970 depending on the money. 1435 01:05:07,019 --> 01:05:09,449 Porn is so dirty, porn is so nasty, you know. 1436 01:05:09,482 --> 01:05:11,658 But porn can be so dirty and so nasty 1437 01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:13,321 in a very sensual, sexual way. 1438 01:05:13,339 --> 01:05:16,318 And I don't really know how to explain how I feel about it, 1439 01:05:16,343 --> 01:05:17,783 but I belong here, baby. 1440 01:05:18,994 --> 01:05:21,028 There's always two sides to everything. 1441 01:05:21,052 --> 01:05:22,923 Politicians get hookers all the time 1442 01:05:22,955 --> 01:05:24,043 and they're forgiven. 1443 01:05:24,076 --> 01:05:25,567 It's normal? That's normal? 1444 01:05:25,591 --> 01:05:28,118 We're not hiding behind somebody's back to do it. 1445 01:05:28,352 --> 01:05:30,913 We're not sitting there cheating on our spouses. 1446 01:05:30,938 --> 01:05:32,505 We're not breaking up marriages. 1447 01:05:32,538 --> 01:05:35,306 Everybody that's with us knows what we do, 1448 01:05:35,355 --> 01:05:36,426 and you watch it. 1449 01:05:36,475 --> 01:05:39,914 So, you know, who are you to judge us? 1450 01:05:40,655 --> 01:05:42,653 This journey has give me a chance 1451 01:05:42,686 --> 01:05:44,899 to shed light on my own sexuality 1452 01:05:44,915 --> 01:05:47,681 and ultimately the loss of our sensuality. 1453 01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:50,182 I believe we make judgments on others 1454 01:05:50,216 --> 01:05:53,447 because of our own fears, our society's ideals, 1455 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,967 and what has been instilled in us 1456 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,959 by our forefathers. 1457 01:05:56,008 --> 01:05:58,839 So before we make assumptions, 1458 01:05:59,307 --> 01:06:02,106 maybe we should take a look at ourselves. 1459 01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:05,466 ? Did you face each other? ? 1460 01:06:05,490 --> 01:06:08,432 ? Did you hold up to the light? ? 1461 01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:14,184 ? Did you find another way? ? 1462 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,350 ? Did you feel a little more like ? 1463 01:06:19,368 --> 01:06:22,727 ? When you find the animal? ? 1464 01:06:22,807 --> 01:06:27,047 ? Did you find another way? ? 1465 01:06:29,591 --> 01:06:32,839 ? Did you face each other? ? 1466 01:06:32,871 --> 01:06:36,423 ? Did you hold up to the light? ? 1467 01:06:36,455 --> 01:06:40,327 ? Did you find another way? ? 1468 01:06:59,711 --> 01:07:01,182 ? God only knows 1469 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:05,236 ? I couldn't care so much for ? 1470 01:07:06,868 --> 01:07:09,411 ? What happened to me 1471 01:07:14,056 --> 01:07:15,494 ? I only know 1472 01:07:15,527 --> 01:07:20,662 ? Why I escape so much 1473 01:07:21,357 --> 01:07:25,468 ? And get high for days 1474 01:07:27,981 --> 01:07:30,972 ? Did you feel a little more like ? 1475 01:07:31,005 --> 01:07:34,796 ? When you find the animal? ? 1476 01:07:34,845 --> 01:07:39,117 ? Did you hide or run away? ? 1477 01:07:42,216 --> 01:07:45,511 ? Did you face each other? 1478 01:07:45,544 --> 01:07:48,902 ? Did you hold up to the love? ? 1479 01:07:48,943 --> 01:07:53,069 ? Did you find another way? ? 1480 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,054 ? Did you feel a little more like ? 1481 01:08:40,072 --> 01:08:43,574 ? When you find the animal? ? 1482 01:08:43,608 --> 01:08:47,862 ? Did you find another way? ? 107785

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