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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:13,472 [Interviewer] "I may not be the fastest. 2 00:00:13,764 --> 00:00:15,850 "I may not be the tallest or the strongest. 3 00:00:16,142 --> 00:00:18,561 "I may not be the best or the brightest. 4 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:21,272 "But one thing I can do better than anyone else, 5 00:00:21,564 --> 00:00:25,693 that is to be me," which is a poem that you wrote. 6 00:00:25,985 --> 00:00:28,487 Well, finally that's all you can do, isn't it? 7 00:00:28,779 --> 00:00:30,406 You can do a good job of doing that. 8 00:00:30,698 --> 00:00:33,784 Do a good job of being me, being yourself. 9 00:00:35,161 --> 00:00:37,204 That's really all I ask of myself. 10 00:00:38,706 --> 00:00:40,416 Because as I said, I wasn't the fastest, 11 00:00:40,708 --> 00:00:43,461 and I wasn't the brightest, and whatever, you know. 12 00:01:38,933 --> 00:01:41,102 [television news chatter] 13 00:01:46,524 --> 00:01:48,984 This morning we are remembering a beloved actor 14 00:01:49,276 --> 00:01:53,823 who became an enduring fixture in pop culture, Leonard Nimoy. 15 00:01:54,115 --> 00:01:55,157 - Leonard Nimoy. - Leonard Nimoy. 16 00:01:55,449 --> 00:01:56,742 - Leonard Nimoy. - [speaking in foreign language] 17 00:01:57,034 --> 00:01:58,661 - Leonard Nimoy. - Leonard Nimoy. 18 00:01:58,953 --> 00:02:01,330 Leonard Nimoy has died at the age of 83. 19 00:02:01,622 --> 00:02:04,875 When word came out today that actor Leonard Nimoy had died, 20 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:08,921 the President said, "I loved Spock." 21 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:14,677 [struggling] I have been and always shall be... your friend. 22 00:02:20,891 --> 00:02:23,686 Live long... 23 00:02:23,978 --> 00:02:25,896 and prosper. 24 00:02:40,035 --> 00:02:41,162 Listen to this. 25 00:02:41,453 --> 00:02:43,205 I just received an email from Wil Wheaton. 26 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:46,375 Leonard Nimoy's son is working on a documentary 27 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:48,878 that he started with his father before he passed away. 28 00:02:49,170 --> 00:02:51,630 It's about Mr. Spock and his impact on our culture. 29 00:02:51,922 --> 00:02:56,302 [Man] "For the Love of Spock," Adam Nimoy. Mark. 30 00:02:56,594 --> 00:02:57,803 We wanted to do something to celebrate 31 00:02:58,095 --> 00:02:59,221 the 50th anniversary of "Star Trek" 32 00:02:59,513 --> 00:03:01,640 which was coming up in 2016. 33 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:04,685 And a documentary about Spock had never really been produced before. 34 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:12,818 [Adam Nimoy] I thought it was an interesting idea 35 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,070 to create a film just focused on Spock, 36 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:16,864 who he is, how he came about, 37 00:03:17,156 --> 00:03:19,867 and why he has continued to resonate for 50 years, 38 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,578 all as a part of the celebration 39 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:25,164 of the anniversary of "The Original Series." 40 00:03:25,456 --> 00:03:28,542 And the minute I suggested this to Dad, he was in. 41 00:03:45,935 --> 00:03:50,189 Although my father had a long and prosperous life and hadn't smoked in years, 42 00:03:50,481 --> 00:03:53,192 he died from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease 43 00:03:53,484 --> 00:03:55,778 from over 30 years of cigarette smoking. 44 00:04:00,115 --> 00:04:01,784 [Adam Nimoy] After Dad died, it became clear 45 00:04:02,076 --> 00:04:03,702 that the film needed to include his life 46 00:04:03,994 --> 00:04:06,080 as well as the life of Mr. Spock. 47 00:04:06,372 --> 00:04:08,415 And that in turn led me on a journey of discovery 48 00:04:08,707 --> 00:04:11,502 about my relationship with my father. 49 00:04:14,004 --> 00:04:15,714 Well, I'm from Boston originally. 50 00:04:16,006 --> 00:04:19,969 I've been in Los Angeles working in films off and on for about 17 years. 51 00:04:20,261 --> 00:04:22,638 I started acting when I was a little boy, about eight years old 52 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:24,598 in neighborhood settlement houses in Boston. 53 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:26,225 And kind of grew up into it. 54 00:04:26,517 --> 00:04:27,685 I just kept doing it because I liked it. 55 00:04:27,977 --> 00:04:29,645 And then suddenly just decided that I liked it enough 56 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:30,729 to want to make a career of it. 57 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:33,107 So I came to California in 1949 58 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:35,442 and started acting in films then. 59 00:04:54,128 --> 00:04:57,381 [Leonard Nimoy] Now my parents were extremely diligent, responsible, practical people. 60 00:04:57,673 --> 00:04:59,258 I grew up during the Depression. 61 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:00,801 When I told them at age 17 62 00:05:01,093 --> 00:05:03,512 that I was going to study drama at the Pasadena Playhouse 63 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:06,890 and become an actor, they were grief stricken. 64 00:05:07,182 --> 00:05:10,936 They tried to dissuade me by refusing to give me the tuition, saying, 65 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:14,189 "You'll have to do it without any help from us." 66 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:18,277 They were totally against it... 67 00:05:18,569 --> 00:05:20,446 because they were certainly-- 68 00:05:20,738 --> 00:05:24,325 Hoped he would work into another profession of some kind. 69 00:05:24,616 --> 00:05:25,868 But he wasn't suited for all that. 70 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,828 He wanted to do what he wanted to do. 71 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,455 [Leonard Nimoy] Being stubborn, 72 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:32,207 I saved some money by selling vacuum cleaners. 73 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:35,627 I bought a train ticket, and I headed west to California. 74 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:37,254 So I'm walking down the streets of Pasadena 75 00:05:37,546 --> 00:05:39,798 on a hot September day, sweat pouring. 76 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:44,678 I'm wearing a wool suit, a hand-painted tie, and suede shoes. 77 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:46,388 I must have looked like somebody that just arrived 78 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,475 from off the boat from Transylvania. 79 00:05:53,729 --> 00:05:56,899 [Adam Nimoy] My mom was an aspiring actress, 80 00:05:57,191 --> 00:06:01,195 and she met my dad backstage at a theater in Hollywood. 81 00:06:01,487 --> 00:06:03,864 But she gave all that up to become a housewife. 82 00:06:07,159 --> 00:06:09,161 My sister was born '55. 83 00:06:09,453 --> 00:06:11,080 My dad was in the service then. 84 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,833 Then my parents came back to Los Angeles, 85 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:17,544 and I was born in '56. 86 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:23,133 My mother told me that when my sister Julie and I were young, 87 00:06:23,425 --> 00:06:27,054 my father was very involved in helping her take care of us. 88 00:06:31,475 --> 00:06:34,728 ♪ Now and then when we fall in place ♪ 89 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:37,356 ♪ It makes me feel all right ♪ 90 00:06:37,648 --> 00:06:39,191 ♪ Makes me feel all right ♪ 91 00:06:39,483 --> 00:06:42,611 ♪ Back and forth we will win this race ♪ 92 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:45,614 ♪ To find out what it's like ♪ 93 00:06:46,281 --> 00:06:52,287 ♪ In time, I'll be just fine ♪ 94 00:06:53,622 --> 00:07:00,587 ♪ In time, I'll be all right ♪ 95 00:07:02,214 --> 00:07:05,759 ♪ Now and then when we fall in place ♪ 96 00:07:06,051 --> 00:07:08,137 ♪ It makes me feel all right ♪ 97 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:09,763 One of my favorite memories of my dad was 98 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,641 he hustled his ass during the early '60s, 99 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:13,600 doing all kinds of jobs. 100 00:07:13,892 --> 00:07:15,894 He was servicing fish tanks. 101 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:17,813 He set them up in doctors' offices. 102 00:07:18,105 --> 00:07:20,274 It was like sort of a fad in the '60s, 103 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:22,359 and Dad had a corner on that market. 104 00:07:22,651 --> 00:07:24,153 We knew that dad sold freezers. 105 00:07:24,445 --> 00:07:25,696 You know, he worked in a pet store. 106 00:07:25,988 --> 00:07:27,489 He drove a cab. 107 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:30,367 He took care of aquariums. 108 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:33,036 He had vending machines at one point, 109 00:07:33,328 --> 00:07:36,290 so he had all these little trinkets kept in boxes. 110 00:07:36,582 --> 00:07:39,334 He worked at Wil Wright's Ice Cream Parlor. 111 00:07:39,626 --> 00:07:41,295 He was managing an apartment building. 112 00:07:41,587 --> 00:07:42,504 He was not around. 113 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,381 And even when Dad was at home, 114 00:07:44,673 --> 00:07:47,134 it was all these home improvement projects. 115 00:07:47,426 --> 00:07:48,969 My father was truly a renaissance man. 116 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:50,971 He could do just about anything. 117 00:07:51,263 --> 00:07:55,309 Like build that massive brick wall in our backyard. 118 00:07:55,601 --> 00:07:58,061 He was trying so hard to get this career going, 119 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:01,231 to make his life, to do what he wanted to do, 120 00:08:01,523 --> 00:08:03,734 which was be in the arts, be an actor. 121 00:08:04,026 --> 00:08:06,403 One of my idols was Lon Chaney, 122 00:08:06,695 --> 00:08:09,239 who was called the man of a thousand faces in movies, 123 00:08:09,531 --> 00:08:11,408 because he'd change characters so drastically 124 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:13,327 from one performance to another. 125 00:08:13,619 --> 00:08:15,078 And I consider myself that kind of a person. 126 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:16,997 I go to the makeup department or the wardrobe department, 127 00:08:17,289 --> 00:08:19,458 and get something together and find a character. 128 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:39,269 [bell ringing] 129 00:08:39,561 --> 00:08:40,437 [crowd cheering] 130 00:08:46,527 --> 00:08:48,904 - What you looking at? - Nothing. 131 00:08:49,196 --> 00:08:50,906 - What's that for? - For nothing. 132 00:08:51,198 --> 00:08:53,784 Next time you wanna look at me, line forms to the right. Two bits admission. 133 00:08:54,076 --> 00:08:57,120 If they see water in the desert where there is no water, 134 00:08:57,412 --> 00:08:59,289 it's their eyes that lie, not my mouth. 135 00:08:59,581 --> 00:09:01,917 Just having any of those coins in your possession 136 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:04,795 is liable to lead you to a lot more trouble than you bargain for. 137 00:09:05,087 --> 00:09:07,297 Have no fear from me, Marshal. 138 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:09,550 No man kills the bee. 139 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:11,468 He only wants to follow him to the honey. 140 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,972 He was a fine man. Hasn't had a decent break in 20 years. 141 00:09:15,264 --> 00:09:16,265 Now he's been built up a little bit. 142 00:09:16,557 --> 00:09:17,975 He's got a little dignity, a little stature. 143 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:20,269 You're not going to deny he was a good Marine and a good officer. 144 00:09:20,561 --> 00:09:21,395 No, no, he was both. 145 00:09:21,687 --> 00:09:23,522 Then why crucify him? 146 00:09:23,814 --> 00:09:25,065 You don't get it, do you, Sanders? 147 00:09:25,357 --> 00:09:27,025 - [telephone ringing] - I don't have any choice. 148 00:09:27,317 --> 00:09:28,986 - [Secretary] Hello? - I'm not going to let you do it. 149 00:09:29,278 --> 00:09:30,904 [Secretary] It's for you, Lieutenant. 150 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:33,782 [Leonard Nimoy] I did this job in an episode of "The Lieutenant" series. 151 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:36,618 A few weeks after I finished the job, my agent called me and said, 152 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:39,288 "Gene Roddenberry saw the footage, 153 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:42,291 "was interested in you, liked what you did, 154 00:09:42,583 --> 00:09:44,459 "and said that he has in mind for you a role 155 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:47,879 in a pilot that he's developing for a science fiction series." 156 00:09:48,171 --> 00:09:50,299 Period. 157 00:09:50,591 --> 00:09:52,301 I really didn't give it a lot of thought. 158 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:55,387 You hear that kind of thing, and you're a long way from getting a job. 159 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,307 [Interviewer] What about some of the characters on the show? 160 00:09:58,599 --> 00:10:00,976 Did you create them with certain actors in mind? 161 00:10:01,268 --> 00:10:02,644 [Gene Roddenberry] Leonard Nimoy was the one actor 162 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:03,812 I definitely had in mind. 163 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:05,647 And I thought to myself, 164 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:09,443 "If I ever do this science fiction that I want to do, 165 00:10:09,735 --> 00:10:11,278 "he'd make a great alien. 166 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:14,114 And with those cheekbones, some sort of a pointed ear might go well." 167 00:10:14,406 --> 00:10:15,949 I simply made one phone call to Leonard, 168 00:10:16,241 --> 00:10:18,035 and he came in, and that was it. 169 00:10:18,327 --> 00:10:22,039 So I went to this meeting expecting to be auditioned, 170 00:10:22,331 --> 00:10:25,917 or to read for him, or... whatever. 171 00:10:26,209 --> 00:10:29,379 He was very congenial and said, "Let's take a walk." 172 00:10:29,671 --> 00:10:32,841 And he walked me over to the scenic design department. 173 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:37,095 He showed me the plans of the sets that were being built, 174 00:10:37,387 --> 00:10:38,930 introduced me to the scenic designer. 175 00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:40,307 Walked me over to the prop department. 176 00:10:40,599 --> 00:10:43,143 Showed me some of the props that were being made. 177 00:10:43,435 --> 00:10:44,519 Wardrobe department, same thing. 178 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:46,021 "Here's some sketches of the clothes." 179 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:47,898 I thought, "This is interesting. 180 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:51,151 "It's like he's telling me I'm doing this job. 181 00:10:51,443 --> 00:10:54,529 If I keep my mouth shut, I might have a job here," you know? 182 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:58,659 Prior to "Star Trek," I never had a job that lasted longer than two weeks 183 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:01,620 in any television show or movie, never. Two weeks. 184 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:05,415 Mr. Spock here. We're intercepting... 185 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:08,126 I didn't have a cool look in mind at first. 186 00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:12,214 I had this jagged haircut and bushy eyebrows, 187 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:15,926 and we went through a struggle with the ears. 188 00:11:16,218 --> 00:11:17,719 The studio had contracted with a company 189 00:11:18,011 --> 00:11:19,638 to do special effects for the show. 190 00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:21,640 Not film special effects, 191 00:11:21,932 --> 00:11:25,852 but items like suits for creatures, 192 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:28,063 creature outfits, and that kind of thing. 193 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:31,983 And included in the contract was the ears. 194 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:33,235 They were supposed to do the ears. 195 00:11:33,527 --> 00:11:35,654 Now, they were very good at creating creatures, 196 00:11:35,946 --> 00:11:39,199 and we used them throughout the series, this particular company. 197 00:11:39,491 --> 00:11:41,326 But they were not really specialists 198 00:11:41,618 --> 00:11:44,037 in the very fine, delicate kind of appliance work 199 00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:46,623 that's necessary to add something to a person's features 200 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:49,376 and make it really look like it's part of that person. 201 00:11:49,668 --> 00:11:52,713 We came right down within about three or four days of shooting the series, 202 00:11:53,004 --> 00:11:54,756 and I said to Gene Roddenberry, 203 00:11:55,048 --> 00:11:58,051 "This is not going to work, and maybe we'd just better forget about the ears." 204 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:01,054 Well, he insisted he wanted the ears to be part of the character. 205 00:12:01,346 --> 00:12:04,391 And he said, "You try it, and let's work it out. Let's solve the problem. 206 00:12:04,683 --> 00:12:06,935 "And at the end of 13 shows if you're not satisfied with the ears, 207 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:09,938 I'll write a script where Spock gets an ear job." [chuckles] 208 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,524 So we went ahead and worked on the problem, 209 00:12:12,816 --> 00:12:14,776 and Fred Phillips, who was the actual makeup man 210 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,362 who was going to do my makeup each day on the series, 211 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:19,114 knew what the problem was. 212 00:12:19,406 --> 00:12:20,741 And a couple of days before we started shooting, 213 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:22,909 he called in an appliance specialist, 214 00:12:23,201 --> 00:12:24,911 and we very quickly went to him. 215 00:12:25,203 --> 00:12:26,788 Got the ears done in about 24 hours. 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,417 And they were ready, and they were perfect, and that solved the problem. 217 00:12:30,709 --> 00:12:31,918 [Adam Nimoy] Freddie Phillips always said 218 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:34,921 that Leonard Nimoy reported for work at 6:30 a.m., 219 00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:39,843 and Mr. Spock could always be counted on to arrive somewhere around 7:15. 220 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:08,789 Definitely something out there, Captain, headed this way. 221 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,082 Our tests indicate the planet's surface 222 00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:13,752 without considerably more vegetation or some animals, 223 00:13:14,044 --> 00:13:15,837 simply too barren to support life. 224 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:17,839 [Gene Roddenberry] The first time, it did not sell. 225 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,800 But, uh, NBC... 226 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:22,761 NBC thought it was too "cerebral" was the term they used. 227 00:13:23,053 --> 00:13:27,015 The network found the first pilot too "cerebral," they said. 228 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:29,851 Not a straight lined story enough. 229 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:34,314 And unusual in that they decided to try a second pilot. 230 00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:36,733 [Leonard Nimoy] NBC told Gene to fire 231 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:39,569 almost the entire cast, including me. 232 00:13:39,861 --> 00:13:43,865 Well, Gene felt very strongly that the bulk of the character that I was to portray, 233 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:45,909 that every time I was on screen 234 00:13:46,201 --> 00:13:48,620 you'd be reminded that we have a mixed crew. 235 00:13:48,912 --> 00:13:50,747 So he stuck to his guns fortunately for me. 236 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:53,166 The original pilot even had a different captain, 237 00:13:53,458 --> 00:13:55,168 Jeff Hunter. 238 00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:58,463 The only actor that stayed over 239 00:13:58,755 --> 00:13:59,923 was Leonard Nimoy. 240 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:08,807 [Leonard Nimoy] And then, I had a shock. 241 00:14:09,099 --> 00:14:11,434 I opened up my mail, and here was a, here was a pamphlet 242 00:14:11,726 --> 00:14:15,313 from the NBC Sales and Promotion Department. 243 00:14:15,605 --> 00:14:17,566 And it was a pamphlet about "Star Trek," 244 00:14:17,858 --> 00:14:19,150 this new series that was going to be on the air 245 00:14:19,442 --> 00:14:20,485 coming in the fall, 246 00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:23,864 I saw this photograph of myself as Spock, 247 00:14:24,155 --> 00:14:24,948 and it didn't look right. 248 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,535 Something struck me as strange. 249 00:14:28,827 --> 00:14:30,579 And the closer I looked, the more I realized that 250 00:14:30,871 --> 00:14:33,081 they had straightened out my eyebrows, made them look normal, 251 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:35,500 and they had taken off the tips off the ears. 252 00:14:36,543 --> 00:14:38,545 The network said, 253 00:14:38,837 --> 00:14:42,090 "We are very dependent on the numbers in the Bible Belt, 254 00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:44,217 "and they will not accept in their homes a character 255 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:45,927 who looks devilish with these pointed ears." 256 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:49,347 Are you casting me in the role of Satan? 257 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:50,307 Not at all, Captain. 258 00:14:50,599 --> 00:14:52,601 Is there anyone on this ship 259 00:14:52,893 --> 00:14:57,063 who even remotely... looks like Satan? 260 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:03,653 I am not aware of anyone who fits that description, Captain. 261 00:15:03,945 --> 00:15:05,739 No, Mr. Spock, I didn't think you were. 262 00:15:10,952 --> 00:15:12,704 Dr. Dehner feels he isn't that dangerous. 263 00:15:12,996 --> 00:15:14,623 What makes you right, and a trained psychiatrist wrong? 264 00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:17,334 Because she feels. I don't. 265 00:15:17,626 --> 00:15:19,336 All I know is logic. 266 00:15:19,628 --> 00:15:22,672 In my opinion, we'd be lucky if we can repair this ship and get away in time. 267 00:15:22,964 --> 00:15:24,466 One of the reasons for the shift 268 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,343 in the Spock character when you came on-board 269 00:15:26,635 --> 00:15:28,136 was because when I was working with Jeffrey Hunter-- 270 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,305 Jeffrey Hunter was a very internalized actor. 271 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:32,432 Very fine actor. This was his style of work. 272 00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:35,018 There's an old joke about two actors preparing to play a scene. 273 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:37,354 And one says to the other, "What are you going to play in this scene?" 274 00:15:37,646 --> 00:15:38,897 And the one says, "I'm playing nothing." 275 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:40,565 The other one says, "No, no, no, 276 00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:42,400 - you can't play nothing. I'm playing nothing." - [laughing] 277 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,820 So here's Jeffrey Hunter playing this quiet, internalized performance, 278 00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:47,864 [William Shatner] Ah! 279 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:50,283 [Leonard Nimoy] And I felt the need to help drive something in opposition to it. 280 00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:52,202 [William Shatner] Right, right. 281 00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:54,120 - [Leonard Nimoy] Otherwise, we're both playing nothing. - [Shatner] Right. 282 00:15:54,412 --> 00:15:56,206 [Leonard Nimoy] And when you came on-board with your energy, 283 00:15:56,498 --> 00:15:58,333 and a sense of humor, and a twinkle in the eye, 284 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:02,087 I was able to then become the cooler Spock. 285 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:06,466 Has it occurred to you that there's a certain... inefficiency 286 00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:10,220 in constantly questioning me on things you've already made up your mind about? 287 00:16:10,512 --> 00:16:13,014 It gives me emotional security. 288 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:19,980 Leonard bouncing off of me could now dramatically be internal 289 00:16:20,271 --> 00:16:21,523 allowing me to be external, 290 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:26,903 and the two forces made an interesting combination. 291 00:16:27,195 --> 00:16:30,365 I prefer the concrete, the graspable, the provable. 292 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:33,868 You'd make a splendid computer, Mr. Spock. 293 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,371 That is very kind of you, Captain. 294 00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:38,164 You know, I don't know if I had played Kirk 295 00:16:38,456 --> 00:16:41,710 that it would have dawned on me to have a sense of humor with Spock. 296 00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,420 I don't know that I would have thought of that, 297 00:16:43,712 --> 00:16:47,924 but Shatner's take on it was, "I can fuck with Spock." [laughs] 298 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:49,551 I mean, you know... 299 00:16:49,843 --> 00:16:51,553 Without being offensive to the character. 300 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:53,805 "I can play with him." 301 00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:59,477 Certain you don't know what irritation is? 302 00:16:59,769 --> 00:17:02,147 The fact one of my ancestors married a human female... 303 00:17:02,439 --> 00:17:05,400 Terrible having bad blood like that. 304 00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:09,154 Those two characters are the yin and yang. 305 00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:11,698 They are that in front of the camera, 306 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,617 and it works beautifully, magnificently. 307 00:17:17,495 --> 00:17:19,998 There must be some intelligent form of life on Thasus. 308 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:22,042 He could not possibly have survived alone. 309 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:24,669 The ship's food concentrates would have been exhausted in a year or so. 310 00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:27,088 By which time he would have been eating fruits, vegetables, and nuts. 311 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:29,132 Probes of Thasus indicate very little edible plant life. 312 00:17:29,424 --> 00:17:30,759 And probes have been known to be wrong. 313 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:34,512 Doctor, are you speaking scientifically or emotionally? 314 00:17:34,804 --> 00:17:38,975 I thought the character McCoy played by D. Kelley 315 00:17:39,267 --> 00:17:42,312 made that, as the fans call it, the triumvirate, 316 00:17:42,604 --> 00:17:46,232 because he was the common man. 317 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:47,984 Certainly a brilliant doctor, 318 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:52,572 but he had all of the irritations, frustrations, 319 00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:55,533 the reactions that most people would have. 320 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,620 I for one could use a good non-reconstituted meal. 321 00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:00,914 Doctor, you are a sensualist. 322 00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:03,083 You bet your pointed ears I am. 323 00:18:03,374 --> 00:18:05,168 [Simon Pegg] It's actually an interesting sort of triumvirate 324 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:08,088 between Spock, Bones, and Kirk. 325 00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:11,132 And for Kirk, Spock is his... 326 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,927 You know, they're like the devil and the angel on his shoulder, really. 327 00:18:14,219 --> 00:18:17,806 Spock is his intelligence, and his logic, and his sense, 328 00:18:18,098 --> 00:18:20,517 and you know, McCoy is more his sort of slightly more emotional, 329 00:18:20,809 --> 00:18:23,311 slightly more, you know, knee-jerk kind of side. 330 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:28,358 The banter between McCoy and Spock was, you know, 331 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:34,322 often some of the most fun elements in the show 332 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:35,740 and indeed in the movies. 333 00:18:36,032 --> 00:18:37,951 What's the matter, Spock? 334 00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:40,245 There's something disquieting about these creatures. 335 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:42,163 I don't know too much about these little Tribbles yet, 336 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:43,915 but there is one thing that I have discovered. 337 00:18:44,207 --> 00:18:45,625 What is that, doctor? 338 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:48,461 I like them better than I like you. 339 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:52,340 Doctor, they do indeed have one redeeming characteristic. 340 00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:54,092 What's that? 341 00:18:54,384 --> 00:18:56,469 They do not talk too much. 342 00:18:56,761 --> 00:18:59,681 When you have the kind of cynical wit of McCoy, 343 00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:03,309 and you have the swagger and braggadocio of Kirk, 344 00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:06,813 and then you have the intellect and cold reason of Spock, 345 00:19:07,105 --> 00:19:10,692 he's like the perfect human being all wrapped up in one. 346 00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:21,870 [Announcer] The following program is brought to you in living color on NBC. 347 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:28,835 [Adam Nimoy] That first night of the premiere 348 00:19:29,127 --> 00:19:30,378 we had to actually go to some friends' house, 349 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,923 because they had a color TV, a big console color TV. 350 00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:35,008 We did not. 351 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:37,552 We had a big console black and white. 352 00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,388 Why don't you tell me I'm an attractive young lady 353 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,558 or ask me if I've ever been in love? 354 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:48,855 Tell me how your planet Vulcan looks on a lazy evening when the moon is full. 355 00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:53,568 Vulcan has no moon, Miss Uhura. 356 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:57,238 I'm not surprised, Mr. Spock. 357 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,867 Dad in his costume, Vulcan costume, 358 00:20:01,159 --> 00:20:03,286 it was like, "Wow, this is really cool." 359 00:20:03,578 --> 00:20:06,831 I remember it was just such an exciting night for us. 360 00:20:07,123 --> 00:20:08,541 This is not Nancy. 361 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,877 If she were Nancy, could she take this? 362 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:13,880 Stop it! Stop it, Spock! 363 00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:15,256 Stop it! 364 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:19,594 [Captain Kirk] Do you read? 365 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Frequency open, Mr. Spock. 366 00:20:23,848 --> 00:20:25,475 Spock here, Captain. 367 00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:30,438 [chattering] [laughing] 368 00:20:33,483 --> 00:20:35,693 - Hi, Daddy. - [laughing] 369 00:20:35,985 --> 00:20:37,237 [Adam Nimoy] When I came to visit the set-- 370 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:38,613 They started shooting that first season 371 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,658 at the end of May and early June in 1966. 372 00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:43,493 I was nine, almost 10 years old, 373 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:45,870 and I was off for summer vacation. 374 00:20:46,162 --> 00:20:48,498 And this is why Dad would take me to work with him. 375 00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:50,124 I would get up early in the morning, 376 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:52,710 and we would drive to Desilu right next to the Paramount lot, 377 00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:56,339 and I'd be there all day. 378 00:20:56,631 --> 00:20:58,967 So I went out to California, and of course, Leonard took care of-- 379 00:20:59,259 --> 00:21:01,511 I stayed at Leonard's home. 380 00:21:01,803 --> 00:21:05,473 And he said, "Guess what. I've got this new show." 381 00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,100 This is 1966. 382 00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:08,935 I said, "What is it?" He said, "It's called 'Star Trek.'" 383 00:21:09,227 --> 00:21:11,562 He said, "You've gotta come on the set." I said, "Of course." 384 00:21:11,854 --> 00:21:13,314 You know, I'm in the theater, 385 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:15,692 and this is my first time in Hollywood. 386 00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:18,653 And I'm out there, and I walk on the set, 387 00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,154 and I see Leonard. 388 00:21:21,322 --> 00:21:24,575 He came out from the dressing room, 389 00:21:24,867 --> 00:21:26,327 and I see this hair. 390 00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:29,247 I see these eyebrows up to here. 391 00:21:29,539 --> 00:21:32,041 And I see these ears on him, 392 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:35,211 and I said, "Jeez, what is this?" 393 00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:38,923 And he did a scene, and he was terrific in the scene. 394 00:21:39,215 --> 00:21:41,676 But I said... I got him to the side. I couldn't believe it. 395 00:21:41,968 --> 00:21:45,847 I said, "Leonard, Leonard, come here. I've got talk to you." 396 00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:50,351 I said, "No matter what you do, you've got to get out of this as soon as you possibly can. 397 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,062 This is a treadmill to oblivion." 398 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:57,358 The review that "Variety" gave us 399 00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,986 when we first went on the air in September of 1966. 400 00:22:00,278 --> 00:22:01,946 [audience laughing] 401 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:06,492 And I thought you'd enjoy hearing what our show business Bible said about us 402 00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:08,286 the first week we went on the air. 403 00:22:08,578 --> 00:22:10,079 This is dated September-- 404 00:22:10,371 --> 00:22:14,625 It appeared on September 14th, 1966, just a little over 25 years ago. 405 00:22:14,917 --> 00:22:17,712 It said, "'Star Trek' with William Shatner, Leonard Nomoid--" 406 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,132 [audience laughing and applauding] 407 00:22:21,424 --> 00:22:23,009 "'Star Trek' won't work." 408 00:22:23,301 --> 00:22:25,219 [audience laughing] 409 00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:29,265 That's the opening line. 410 00:22:29,557 --> 00:22:34,145 Then it says, "An incredible and dreary mess of confusion... 411 00:22:34,437 --> 00:22:36,230 "trudged on for a long hour..." 412 00:22:36,522 --> 00:22:37,982 - [laughs] - [audience laughing] 413 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:41,778 "...with hardly any relief from violence, killings, hypnotic stuff, 414 00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:44,280 and a distasteful, ugly monster." 415 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,616 [audience laughing] 416 00:22:46,908 --> 00:22:50,703 - "William Shatner--" Shush! - [audience laughing] 417 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:54,123 "William Shatner appears wooden," it says. 418 00:22:54,415 --> 00:22:56,167 [audience laughing] 419 00:22:56,459 --> 00:22:57,752 [laughing] 420 00:22:59,921 --> 00:23:03,466 I didn't say it. It says it here, right? 421 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:05,426 [laughing] I never heard him accused of being, 422 00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:07,720 accused of being wooden before, you know. 423 00:23:08,012 --> 00:23:10,348 [audience laughing] 424 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,849 "Spock!" 425 00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:14,811 [audience laughing] 426 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:18,856 "Scotty!" 427 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:21,818 "I need warp speed in four minutes, or we're all dead!" 428 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:23,653 [audience laughing] 429 00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:26,823 Then it says, "The same goes for Leonard Nimoy." 430 00:23:27,115 --> 00:23:28,699 - [laughing] - [audience laughing] 431 00:23:30,701 --> 00:23:35,623 There are 500 or 1,000 who could play our characters effectively. 432 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,334 There's only one person who could play Mr. Spock. 433 00:23:38,626 --> 00:23:45,174 [Leonard Nimoy] Spock called for exactly the kind of work I was prepared to do. 434 00:23:45,466 --> 00:23:48,636 He was a character with a rich and dynamic inner life, 435 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,721 half human, half Vulcan. 436 00:23:51,013 --> 00:23:53,558 He was the embodiment of the outsider, 437 00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:57,645 like the immigrants who surrounded me in Boston in my early years. 438 00:23:57,937 --> 00:23:59,272 How do you find your way 439 00:23:59,564 --> 00:24:02,316 as the alien in a foreign culture? 440 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,987 Keep your Vulcan hands off me. 441 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:08,156 Just keep away. 442 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:12,618 Your feelings might be hurt, you green-blooded half breed. 443 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:17,123 May I say that I have not thoroughly enjoyed serving with humans. 444 00:24:17,415 --> 00:24:21,210 I find their illogic and foolish emotions a constant irritant. 445 00:24:21,502 --> 00:24:24,797 Then transfer out, freak. 446 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:26,924 Most everyone, and there are exceptions, 447 00:24:27,216 --> 00:24:30,845 but most everyone feels a little bit like an outsider. 448 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:32,805 I would argue the most interesting people seem to. 449 00:24:33,097 --> 00:24:36,642 So, there's something wonderfully comforting 450 00:24:36,934 --> 00:24:41,230 and relatable to know that Spock felt that way himself. 451 00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:45,985 I grew up as a skinny, nerdy, gay kid in the south, 452 00:24:46,277 --> 00:24:47,904 you know, in the 70's. 453 00:24:48,196 --> 00:24:49,906 Not exactly a comfortable existence. 454 00:24:50,198 --> 00:24:52,617 There's a lot of internal conflict. 455 00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:55,495 So the character of Spock from the very beginning... 456 00:24:55,786 --> 00:24:57,705 And you know, when I was five, I didn't know why, 457 00:24:57,997 --> 00:24:58,831 or seven, I didn't know why, 458 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:00,875 but I was captivated 459 00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:04,921 by this character that was based on internal conflict. 460 00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:10,551 Spock, I think people recognize themselves in him. 461 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:14,972 He is, um, an outsider. 462 00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:16,474 He is the alien. 463 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:18,601 I think everyone feels like an outsider sometimes. 464 00:25:18,893 --> 00:25:21,103 And since he's a nonhuman outsider, 465 00:25:21,395 --> 00:25:25,149 it's an otherness that everybody can relate to in their own way. 466 00:25:25,441 --> 00:25:29,237 People sometimes think they don't belong in a group. 467 00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:32,532 And really that's what I've found, you know... 468 00:25:32,823 --> 00:25:36,619 I was very tall from when I was young, 469 00:25:36,911 --> 00:25:39,747 and I felt apart from other people. 470 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,251 And I really associated with that character. 471 00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,590 [Leonard Nimoy] I think it was the very first episode 472 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,593 we were filming after the pilot when we started into production. 473 00:25:52,885 --> 00:25:55,721 There was a scene in which the ship was being threatened 474 00:25:56,013 --> 00:25:59,267 by some outside problems, outside dangerous force, 475 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:00,768 and there was a lot of activity on the ship. 476 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,687 The captain was saying, "Do such and such. 477 00:26:02,979 --> 00:26:06,524 Press this button. Do this. Warp three. Get us out of here," and so forth. 478 00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:10,778 And Spock had one word to say, and the word was, "Fascinating." 479 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:12,738 And we're looking at this thing on the screen, you know, 480 00:26:13,030 --> 00:26:14,782 and everyone else is reacting, "Oh, look at it. Blah, blah." 481 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:16,200 And I got caught up in that energy, 482 00:26:16,492 --> 00:26:18,661 and I said, "Fascinating." 483 00:26:18,953 --> 00:26:21,872 And the director gave me a brilliant note, and he said, 484 00:26:22,164 --> 00:26:25,543 "Be different. Be the scientist. Be detached. 485 00:26:25,835 --> 00:26:28,838 See it as something that's a curiosity rather than a threat." 486 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:31,841 Fascinating. 487 00:26:34,677 --> 00:26:39,223 Well... a big chunk of the character was born right there. 488 00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:42,977 If I seem insensitive to what you're going through, Captain, 489 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:47,481 understand... it's the way I am. 490 00:26:47,773 --> 00:26:50,985 A lesser actor would say, "Why would I want to play him? He doesn't have any emotions." 491 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:52,695 But he has so many emotions. 492 00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:54,905 But he also has emotional control. 493 00:26:55,197 --> 00:26:56,741 Expresses very little of what he's feeling, 494 00:26:57,033 --> 00:27:00,119 and I think it's fun for the audience to watch 495 00:27:00,411 --> 00:27:03,456 to see if there's a glimmer of something that pops through. 496 00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:05,333 I had a very interesting conversation 497 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:08,377 with your father about Spock, 498 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:12,465 because we were talking about him as a cold, unemotional guy. 499 00:27:12,757 --> 00:27:14,884 And Leonard said, "I never played him that way. 500 00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:19,013 I always played him as a guy trying to keep his emotions in check." 501 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:23,934 And I thought that was a subtle and ingenious choice, 502 00:27:24,226 --> 00:27:28,272 because it lent a dynamic tension to what you saw on the screen, 503 00:27:28,564 --> 00:27:30,024 particularly in the closeups, 504 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:31,567 of a guy trying to keep a lid on it. 505 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:32,943 That thing must be destroyed. 506 00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:35,905 You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore. 507 00:27:36,197 --> 00:27:38,949 The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew. 508 00:27:39,241 --> 00:27:43,245 I am officially notifying you that I am exercising my option 509 00:27:43,537 --> 00:27:46,374 under regulations as a Star Fleet Commodore, 510 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:48,709 and that I am assuming command of the Enterprise. 511 00:27:54,965 --> 00:27:57,093 You can't let him do this, Spock. 512 00:27:57,385 --> 00:27:58,969 Doctor, you are out of line. 513 00:27:59,261 --> 00:28:02,056 So are you... sir. 514 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,600 Well, Spock? 515 00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:08,562 Unfortunately, Star Fleet Order 104, Section B leaves me no alternative. 516 00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:10,690 Mr. Spock, I order you to assume command 517 00:28:10,981 --> 00:28:13,067 on my personal authority as captain of the Enterprise. 518 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,655 Commodore Decker, you are relieved of command. 519 00:28:17,947 --> 00:28:21,867 I don't recognize your authority to relieve me. 520 00:28:23,661 --> 00:28:27,373 Commodore, I do not wish to place you under arrest. 521 00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:30,710 You're bluffing. 522 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:33,045 Vulcans never bluff. 523 00:28:33,337 --> 00:28:36,590 I talked about it at the time being heavily influenced 524 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,468 by what I saw Harry Belafonte do on stage one night. 525 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,470 He came out on stage, and a spotlight came up on him, 526 00:28:41,762 --> 00:28:44,390 and he was there. He just stood there very quietly. 527 00:28:44,682 --> 00:28:46,892 Applause. Next song, stood there quietly and sang. 528 00:28:47,184 --> 00:28:49,103 Now he must have been on stage 10 or 15 minutes. 529 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,731 He was just standing there with his hands on his thighs, 530 00:28:52,022 --> 00:28:53,733 and sang, and when he made a gesture, 531 00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:55,651 it was like the whole place shook. 532 00:28:55,943 --> 00:28:58,571 It was like, "Wow!" You know? 533 00:28:58,863 --> 00:29:00,197 It was gigantic. 534 00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:01,907 Wow, what a lesson. 535 00:29:02,199 --> 00:29:06,954 If you are minimal, then that becomes a big deal. 536 00:29:07,246 --> 00:29:10,291 If you are minimal, that becomes a big deal. 537 00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:12,585 [dramatic music] 538 00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,044 [screams] 539 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,590 He's gone. 540 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:19,508 [Leonard Nimoy] You make a comment with an eyebrow, 541 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,970 that's just as powerful as throwing punches. 542 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,806 He didn't wield the human side frivolously for effect. 543 00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:28,350 Most of the time, it would be contained, 544 00:29:28,642 --> 00:29:29,894 but occasionally, 545 00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:33,481 you know, most notably at the end of 'Amok Time,' 546 00:29:33,773 --> 00:29:36,484 when he realizes that he didn't kill Kirk, 547 00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:38,486 there's a sweet moment of like, "Jim!" 548 00:29:38,778 --> 00:29:40,696 Which is just so... It's so earned. 549 00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:43,783 There can be no excuse for the crime of which I'm guilty. 550 00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:45,534 I intend to offer no defense. 551 00:29:45,826 --> 00:29:47,453 Furthermore, I shall order Mr. Scott 552 00:29:47,745 --> 00:29:48,913 to take immediate command of this vessel. 553 00:29:49,205 --> 00:29:50,915 Don't you think you'd better check with me first? 554 00:29:51,207 --> 00:29:52,291 Captain! 555 00:29:53,751 --> 00:29:54,794 Jim! 556 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,805 I'm... pleased to see you, Captain. 557 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:09,058 You seem... uninjured. 558 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:12,520 [Leonard Nimoy] What is the purpose of a toy? 559 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:14,146 To be played with. 560 00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:17,024 [Leonard Nimoy] Therefore, to not play with it would be... 561 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:18,192 Illogical. 562 00:30:18,484 --> 00:30:21,070 Damn it, Spock, you're right. 563 00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:27,660 You can look at a lot of progenitor characters for Sheldon, 564 00:30:27,952 --> 00:30:32,623 but absolutely, absolutely one of them is Spock. Absolutely. 565 00:30:32,915 --> 00:30:37,086 And in fact, in the episode 566 00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:41,799 in which Sheldon is interviewed for this very documentary 567 00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:45,302 that I am currently speaking to you in, 568 00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:47,346 one of the things Sheldon talks about 569 00:30:47,638 --> 00:30:49,557 is his desire to be Spock. 570 00:30:49,849 --> 00:30:51,684 And that's not a new invention. 571 00:30:51,976 --> 00:30:57,064 That's something that has existed for that character from the very beginning. 572 00:30:57,356 --> 00:31:00,901 When I was eight years old, Billy sparks cornered me in the playground. 573 00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:03,237 I asked myself, "What would Spock do?" 574 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:05,364 Then I grabbed Billy on his shoulder 575 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:08,450 and performed my first Vulcan nerve pinch. 576 00:31:08,742 --> 00:31:09,577 Did it work? 577 00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:11,745 Oh, no, he broke my collarbone. 578 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,539 - [laughing] - [audience laughing] 579 00:31:13,831 --> 00:31:16,584 So the script was written then that Spock comes up behind, 580 00:31:16,876 --> 00:31:18,294 sneaks up behind the mean Kirk, 581 00:31:18,586 --> 00:31:21,088 and hits him on the head with the butt of a gun. 582 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,132 That's what was written in the script. 583 00:31:23,424 --> 00:31:26,886 So I said to the director, "I think we should do something different than that." 584 00:31:27,177 --> 00:31:29,179 He said, "What do you... What do you mean? What do you have in mind?" 585 00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:30,806 And I said, "Well, Spock is a graduate 586 00:31:31,098 --> 00:31:32,641 of the Vulcan Institute of Technology..." 587 00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:34,518 [audience laughing] 588 00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:37,771 "...where he took a number of courses in human anatomy. 589 00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:42,943 And the Vulcans have a kind of energy that comes off their fingertips, 590 00:31:43,235 --> 00:31:46,322 which if properly applied to the appropriate pressure points 591 00:31:46,614 --> 00:31:49,116 on the human anatomy, will render a human unconscious. 592 00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:51,911 - And the guy didn't know what I was talking about. - [audience laughing] 593 00:31:52,202 --> 00:31:55,331 But I told him, and he knew exactly what I was talking about. 594 00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:59,251 And when I came up behind him, and I put my hand on his neck, he-- 595 00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:00,502 He's the one that sold it. 596 00:32:00,794 --> 00:32:03,047 He went like like that and dropped like a rock. 597 00:32:03,339 --> 00:32:04,632 [audience laughing] 598 00:32:05,925 --> 00:32:07,468 [phaser firing] 599 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,930 There's a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder. 600 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,105 I'd like you to teach me that some time. 601 00:32:23,901 --> 00:32:26,528 Our minds are merging, Doctor. 602 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:28,906 Our minds are one. 603 00:32:30,032 --> 00:32:32,201 I feel what you feel. 604 00:32:33,369 --> 00:32:35,496 I know what you know. 605 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:38,791 I like the fact that Spock could communicate with other species 606 00:32:39,083 --> 00:32:43,003 through thoughts rather than through words. Brilliant. 607 00:32:45,923 --> 00:32:48,634 What in the name of... 608 00:32:48,926 --> 00:32:52,054 The man talked to a rock for goodness sake in the Horta. 609 00:32:52,346 --> 00:32:53,555 "Oh, she's pregnant." 610 00:32:53,847 --> 00:32:55,349 It's a rock, okay. 611 00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:58,852 That was good, because the rock is not going to speak English to you. 612 00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:04,066 Think of how many science fiction stories in that decade and the decades preceding 613 00:33:04,358 --> 00:33:06,235 where you'd meet aliens, and the aliens spoke English. 614 00:33:08,195 --> 00:33:12,950 We didn't think to think that that would not happen. 615 00:33:13,242 --> 00:33:15,577 You've got to crawl before you walk. I get that. 616 00:33:15,869 --> 00:33:19,623 But "Star Trek" not only knew how to crawl, and knew how to walk. 617 00:33:19,915 --> 00:33:20,749 It was running. 618 00:33:45,107 --> 00:33:48,152 The Vulcan greeting is a wonderful sentiment, 619 00:33:48,444 --> 00:33:50,070 "Live long and prosper." 620 00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:55,075 And this too is something that was contributed by your father on the set. 621 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:57,578 [Leonard Nimoy] We had a wonderful script 622 00:33:57,870 --> 00:34:01,498 by Theodore Sturgeon called 'Amok Time.' 623 00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:03,125 We arrive on the planet, 624 00:34:03,417 --> 00:34:07,087 and a procession comes out from the city to greet us. 625 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:08,589 I said to the director, 626 00:34:08,881 --> 00:34:11,133 "I think we should have some kind of a special greeting. 627 00:34:11,425 --> 00:34:13,635 "Asian people bow to each other. 628 00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:15,888 "Military people salute each other. 629 00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:18,640 I think Vulcans should have some kind of a greeting." 630 00:34:18,932 --> 00:34:21,685 And he said, "What would you like to do?" 631 00:34:21,977 --> 00:34:23,854 And I said, "How about this?" 632 00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:30,069 Where it came from was from my childhood of going 633 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,822 to synagogue on the High Holidays with my family. 634 00:34:34,114 --> 00:34:37,493 There's a moment where a group of men get up before the congregation, 635 00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:41,914 cover their heads with their prayer shawls, chant a prayer. 636 00:34:42,206 --> 00:34:44,166 My father said, "Don't look." 637 00:34:44,458 --> 00:34:47,461 I'm about eight or nine years old, so I snuck a peek. 638 00:34:47,753 --> 00:34:50,464 And what I saw were these gentleman out there who were doing the shouting 639 00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:54,635 had their hands out towards the congregation like that, both hands. 640 00:34:57,012 --> 00:35:01,975 I found out later this is the shape of a letter shin in the Hebrew alphabet. 641 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:06,105 The letter shin is the first letter in the word Shaddai, 642 00:35:06,396 --> 00:35:07,648 the name of God. 643 00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:10,818 Well, I survived. I peeked, and I survived. 644 00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:13,862 But I was so intrigued with that gesture, 645 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:17,407 and I suggested that we do that as Vulcans. 646 00:35:17,699 --> 00:35:20,536 Within days after that episode was on the air, 647 00:35:20,828 --> 00:35:23,831 I started getting that gesture back on the streets. 648 00:35:41,515 --> 00:35:45,144 You know, a lot of times people ask me what it was like living with Spock, 649 00:35:45,435 --> 00:35:48,063 and for the most part, during that period, 650 00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:50,732 Dad was not home much at all. I didn't see him. 651 00:35:51,024 --> 00:35:55,362 He was really focused on what he was doing at the studio 652 00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:57,114 and for the show. 653 00:35:57,406 --> 00:35:59,491 His usual routine during the week was he would get up very early. 654 00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:02,870 He'd come home at 7:00 or 8:00 at night, 655 00:36:03,162 --> 00:36:05,289 eat his dinner, memorize his lines. 656 00:36:05,581 --> 00:36:06,957 He'd run the lines with my mother 657 00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:09,084 and then just go to sleep and start all over again. 658 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:11,420 So during the week, he wasn't around hardly at all. 659 00:36:11,712 --> 00:36:15,007 We spent a lot of, you know, our, quite a few years-- 660 00:36:15,299 --> 00:36:17,217 Actually, from "Star Trek" to "Mission," 661 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:20,596 with him not being home during the weekdays. 662 00:36:20,888 --> 00:36:22,681 Even when Dad was around at home, 663 00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:24,933 oftentimes, he was very quiet and remote. 664 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:27,060 He was still kind of in his Spock bag, 665 00:36:27,352 --> 00:36:28,645 because he liked to stay in character. 666 00:36:28,937 --> 00:36:30,856 You play a character like that... 667 00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:34,693 What? Eight, 10, 12 hours a day, five days a week, 668 00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:37,988 - most of your waking life then is in that character. - Mm-hmm. 669 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,534 And I'd find it very difficult to turn it on and turn it off. 670 00:36:42,826 --> 00:36:46,330 So stepping out of the set and into a chair waiting for the next setup, 671 00:36:46,622 --> 00:36:47,748 I couldn't shift out of it. 672 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,375 I believed in making that investment in the character. 673 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:53,212 Particularly, that kind of character that was so boxed. 674 00:36:53,503 --> 00:36:57,466 A lot of the time he wasn't available to hang out with, 675 00:36:57,758 --> 00:37:00,510 to... do things with. 676 00:37:00,802 --> 00:37:03,680 He was... He was sort of in his world. 677 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,350 He was occasionally Leonard-like, 678 00:37:06,642 --> 00:37:08,518 but mostly, he was Spock. 679 00:37:08,810 --> 00:37:10,646 So I never really got to know him very well. 680 00:37:10,938 --> 00:37:14,233 I got to know Spock a little bit better than I got to know your dad. 681 00:37:14,524 --> 00:37:17,236 I mean, he was totally dedicated to playing that character 682 00:37:17,527 --> 00:37:19,279 and to being that character, and it showed. 683 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:23,283 If I stay in character or kind of don't joke around, 684 00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:25,827 it's more a function of me-- 685 00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,748 [chuckles] It's slightly closer to being a panicked grip 686 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,085 than it is being an artist, I'm afraid. 687 00:37:33,377 --> 00:37:34,628 It's just, I don't want to lose it. 688 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,673 You kind of have to get into the character's head. 689 00:37:37,965 --> 00:37:40,634 And if you come out of it, and then they go, "Roll camera," 690 00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:42,594 if you're off by that much, 691 00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:46,515 you could either underplay a moment or overplay a moment. 692 00:37:52,312 --> 00:37:54,690 [Adam Nimoy] Fan mail started arriving pretty regularly 693 00:37:54,982 --> 00:37:56,566 in late '66, 694 00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:59,528 and there was some issue whether or not the studio would handle the mail, 695 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:01,488 the network would handle the mail. 696 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,240 They didn't want to do it. They wanted, you know, Leonard to handle the mail, 697 00:38:03,532 --> 00:38:05,617 which he did in his office for a while. 698 00:38:05,909 --> 00:38:07,577 There was an interview in "16 Magazine," 699 00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,496 I think it was the spring of '67, 700 00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:14,418 and somehow, accidentally, they published our home address 701 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:17,254 as the mailing address for the fan mail. 702 00:38:17,546 --> 00:38:20,340 Within days, the mailman stopped coming. 703 00:38:20,632 --> 00:38:24,052 It was a truck that arrived with sacks of mail, 704 00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:26,513 and we were answering it. 705 00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:27,931 It came into our dining room. 706 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:29,933 We had the dining room table all set up 707 00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:31,560 with the mail that we opened, 708 00:38:31,852 --> 00:38:35,230 and we stuffed envelopes with this early Spock promo picture. 709 00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:37,941 It was one of our "family activities," 710 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:39,276 you know, was answering fan mail. 711 00:38:39,568 --> 00:38:40,652 [Interviewer] Personal life was gone. 712 00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:42,195 Yeah, it started happening very fast. 713 00:38:42,487 --> 00:38:44,197 And to show you how naive I was, 714 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,783 at that time, I still had my phone listed in the phone book, 715 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:48,368 and my address, and it was all... 716 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,495 You know, I'd never dreamed that there was going to be any, 717 00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:53,457 that kind of impact, because I'd been on television before and done movies before, 718 00:38:53,749 --> 00:38:55,625 and I was listed in the phone book. Didn't matter to me. 719 00:38:55,917 --> 00:38:58,462 We started getting a lot of fan mail, not only fan mail, 720 00:38:58,754 --> 00:39:02,049 but fans coming to our door, knocking down the door. 721 00:39:02,341 --> 00:39:04,301 We started getting people driving by the house, and parking, 722 00:39:04,593 --> 00:39:07,346 and ripping at the shrubbery to have a souvenir, you know, 723 00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,265 and taking my grass, and my leaves, and whatever. 724 00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:11,600 Some of them would knock on the door 725 00:39:11,892 --> 00:39:13,727 and ask to be invited in to visit. 726 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:17,356 It got really crazy. Yeah, yeah. 727 00:39:17,647 --> 00:39:19,274 It got really crazy for a while. 728 00:39:21,735 --> 00:39:23,278 [Adam Nimoy] What about when you came back to Boston 729 00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:24,613 during the "Star Trek" years? 730 00:39:24,905 --> 00:39:26,531 [Leonard Nimoy] Yeah, that was kind of exciting 731 00:39:26,823 --> 00:39:28,450 and a little difficult. 732 00:39:30,786 --> 00:39:33,121 People were following me in the street, 733 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:35,707 and I didn't really want people to know where I was living. 734 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:37,459 I was staying with my folks, with your grandparents. 735 00:39:37,751 --> 00:39:38,877 [Adam Nimoy] Right. 736 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:42,506 And they didn't have any idea what "Star Trek" was. 737 00:39:42,798 --> 00:39:44,216 They didn't get it. 738 00:39:44,508 --> 00:39:46,510 All they knew was something had happened. 739 00:39:46,802 --> 00:39:48,553 [Adam Nimoy] How did they react when they saw your haircut? 740 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:51,098 [Leonard Nimoy] My dad actually thought I was wearing a wig. 741 00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:55,227 He had a picture of me as Spock up on the wall in the barbershop, 742 00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:57,687 and kids would come in and say, "I want a Spock haircut." 743 00:39:57,979 --> 00:39:58,814 [laughing] 744 00:40:02,442 --> 00:40:04,820 [Leonard Nimoy] Once word filtered through to network executives 745 00:40:05,112 --> 00:40:07,030 about Spock's popularity, they said to Roddenberry, 746 00:40:07,322 --> 00:40:10,826 "Say, why aren't you doing more with that Martian on the show?" 747 00:40:11,118 --> 00:40:13,120 There's that element of competition, 748 00:40:13,412 --> 00:40:14,955 particularly the first season, 749 00:40:15,247 --> 00:40:21,086 because, um... the titular star was Bill Shatner. 750 00:40:21,378 --> 00:40:24,506 Leonard was the secondary character. 751 00:40:24,798 --> 00:40:27,843 But when the show went on the air, 752 00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:33,014 people were absolutely magnetically attracted to Spock. 753 00:40:33,306 --> 00:40:35,976 So I'm asked to be the captain, 754 00:40:36,268 --> 00:40:39,729 [stammering] and it's the captain's show, and that's great. 755 00:40:40,021 --> 00:40:45,610 Quite frequently, another character rises to the top as well. 756 00:40:45,902 --> 00:40:48,572 I go to Roddenberry, 757 00:40:48,864 --> 00:40:51,450 who then says very wisely... 758 00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:57,122 "If Spock is popular, then Kirk is popular, 759 00:40:57,414 --> 00:41:00,584 and the show is popular, and that's what we all want." 760 00:41:00,876 --> 00:41:02,377 And I thought, "You know, he's right." 761 00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:05,338 And from that moment on, 762 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,924 I encompassed the popularity of Spock, 763 00:41:08,216 --> 00:41:13,597 and, uh, was okay with it, and, uh, enjoyed it. 764 00:41:17,434 --> 00:41:20,645 Jim, I feel friendship for you. 765 00:41:20,937 --> 00:41:22,105 I'm ashamed. 766 00:41:22,397 --> 00:41:24,649 You've got to hear me! 767 00:41:24,941 --> 00:41:27,903 Kirk is the physical embodiment of the show, 768 00:41:28,195 --> 00:41:31,448 and Spock is the spiritual embodiment of the show. 769 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:36,620 And I think it's how these two guys carved out 770 00:41:36,912 --> 00:41:40,707 their specific spaces in this little universe. 771 00:41:52,594 --> 00:41:55,805 Kirk was always doing wild and crazy things 772 00:41:56,097 --> 00:41:57,390 and sleeping with aliens, 773 00:41:57,682 --> 00:41:59,518 and Spock was always thoughtful, 774 00:41:59,809 --> 00:42:01,645 and moving in a very deliberate way, 775 00:42:01,937 --> 00:42:03,647 and sort of putting the brakes 776 00:42:03,939 --> 00:42:06,733 on some of the more physical urges that people had. 777 00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:08,693 [Mr. Mudd] You can save it, girls. 778 00:42:08,985 --> 00:42:11,321 This type can turn himself off from any emotion. 779 00:42:11,613 --> 00:42:13,698 I think that his Vulcan side prevents him 780 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:19,454 from allowing the testosterone [laughing] in his human side to get the best of him. 781 00:42:19,746 --> 00:42:22,499 And that is very appealing for women, 782 00:42:22,791 --> 00:42:23,625 at least for women like me. 783 00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:26,253 I don't... I don't... 784 00:42:26,545 --> 00:42:30,465 Motorcycles, and car oils, and, "Hey, baby..." 785 00:42:30,757 --> 00:42:33,301 I just... I just... It's not my thing. 786 00:42:33,593 --> 00:42:35,554 I like more of an intellectual, humble soul 787 00:42:35,845 --> 00:42:39,933 that kind of blows your mind in just a conversation, 788 00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:41,893 and I feel like Spock is that like. 789 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:45,730 So I wouldn't be surprised why women found him really appealing. 790 00:42:46,022 --> 00:42:47,524 [intercom sounding] 791 00:42:47,816 --> 00:42:49,859 [Mr. Chekov through intercom] Bridge to Captain Kirk. 792 00:42:51,945 --> 00:42:52,696 Kirk here. 793 00:42:54,573 --> 00:42:55,907 I had no idea. 794 00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:57,659 What? 795 00:42:57,951 --> 00:43:00,537 He's so much more handsome in person. 796 00:43:00,829 --> 00:43:01,997 Those eyes. 797 00:43:02,289 --> 00:43:04,457 Kirk had quite the reputation as a lady's man. 798 00:43:04,749 --> 00:43:06,543 Not him. 799 00:43:06,835 --> 00:43:08,253 Spock. 800 00:43:08,545 --> 00:43:11,631 There was just something about him that women found attractive. 801 00:43:11,923 --> 00:43:15,135 He himself was kind of flirty, 802 00:43:15,427 --> 00:43:19,055 and women kind of flirted with him. 803 00:43:19,347 --> 00:43:24,102 You only take a mate once every seven years? 804 00:43:24,394 --> 00:43:26,980 The seven-year cycle... 805 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,150 is biologically inherent in all Vulcans. 806 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,485 At that time, 807 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:36,114 the mating drive outweighs all other motivations. 808 00:43:46,583 --> 00:43:52,422 And is there nothing that can disturb that cycle, Mr. Spock? 809 00:43:54,132 --> 00:43:56,092 [Jon Stewart] When did you get first interested into fellas? 810 00:43:56,384 --> 00:43:57,052 Uh... 811 00:43:58,887 --> 00:44:00,472 Spock, yes. 812 00:44:00,764 --> 00:44:02,140 [Stewart] What was it about him? 813 00:44:02,432 --> 00:44:05,685 He was so repressed, and you just wanted to make him scream. 814 00:44:05,977 --> 00:44:07,979 [audience laughing] 815 00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:09,981 I'm, uh... I'm rather repressed. 816 00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:11,066 [laughing] 817 00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:13,234 I don't think this is that different 818 00:44:13,526 --> 00:44:16,279 from the which Beatle do you love most, you know? 819 00:44:16,571 --> 00:44:18,239 I like the less emotional, 820 00:44:18,531 --> 00:44:21,785 more, you know, kind of obtuse, bizarre type. 821 00:44:22,077 --> 00:44:25,580 So I think there's always going to be a Spock female versus a Kirk female. 822 00:44:25,872 --> 00:44:30,335 I was one of the first to find them, the spores. 823 00:44:32,462 --> 00:44:33,838 Spores? 824 00:44:46,768 --> 00:44:47,519 Now... 825 00:44:48,937 --> 00:44:51,690 Now, you belong to all of us... 826 00:44:51,981 --> 00:44:53,900 and we to you. 827 00:44:54,192 --> 00:44:57,779 There's no need to hide your inner face any longer. 828 00:44:58,071 --> 00:44:59,489 We understand. 829 00:45:09,708 --> 00:45:11,668 I love you. 830 00:45:14,003 --> 00:45:15,547 I can love you. 831 00:45:22,554 --> 00:45:25,598 [Dorothy Fontana] This is the perfect opportunity for a love story for Spock, 832 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:28,351 because the spores release all of those things 833 00:45:28,643 --> 00:45:31,813 that hold in his emotions, his logic, 834 00:45:32,105 --> 00:45:34,941 and will allow him to feel like a real person. 835 00:45:35,233 --> 00:45:39,404 And this is unusual for him. It's unknown for him. 836 00:45:41,656 --> 00:45:43,450 But we're happy here. 837 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:48,121 I can't lose you now, Mr. Spock. I can't. 838 00:45:49,414 --> 00:45:53,001 I have a responsibility... 839 00:45:53,293 --> 00:45:55,170 to the ship... 840 00:45:56,254 --> 00:45:58,757 and that man on the bridge. 841 00:46:01,426 --> 00:46:03,928 I am what I am, Leila. 842 00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:09,392 And if there are self-made purgatories... 843 00:46:09,684 --> 00:46:12,771 and we all have to live in them... 844 00:46:14,439 --> 00:46:16,858 mine can be no worse than someone else's. 845 00:46:23,364 --> 00:46:25,283 ["Cotton Candy" playing] 846 00:46:30,330 --> 00:46:34,834 ♪ Cotton candy on a summer day ♪ 847 00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:39,714 ♪ Green grass on a hillside ♪ 848 00:46:40,006 --> 00:46:44,427 ♪ Could they turn my love around? ♪ 849 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,930 ♪ Could they bring her back to my side? ♪ 850 00:46:47,222 --> 00:46:49,265 Well, he was a better singer than I was. 851 00:46:49,557 --> 00:46:52,018 I mean, he could, uh... 852 00:46:52,310 --> 00:46:54,854 He could sustain a note. 853 00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:57,065 Uh, off-key, but sustain a note. 854 00:46:57,357 --> 00:46:58,608 [laughing] 855 00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:00,068 ["A Trip to Nowhere" playing] 856 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,987 ♪ His love is a merry-go-round ♪ 857 00:47:03,279 --> 00:47:05,031 ♪ He will drag you down ♪ 858 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:07,700 ♪ A trip to nowhere ♪ 859 00:47:07,992 --> 00:47:11,996 ♪ A world without love ♪ 860 00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,504 He was basically keeping himself busy 861 00:47:19,796 --> 00:47:21,589 by making hay while the sun was shining. 862 00:47:21,881 --> 00:47:24,133 I mean, that was his whole philosophy. 863 00:47:24,425 --> 00:47:26,970 He knew he was riding this wave, and it was very exciting. 864 00:47:27,262 --> 00:47:29,389 But he also knew that it could be over very quickly, 865 00:47:29,681 --> 00:47:32,100 and we could be back into the financial struggle that we were in 866 00:47:32,392 --> 00:47:33,726 before "Star Trek" came along. 867 00:47:34,018 --> 00:47:37,146 I always told him, "You can take the boy out of the West End, 868 00:47:37,438 --> 00:47:40,191 but you can't take the West End out of the boy." 869 00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:41,317 I live with one. 870 00:47:41,609 --> 00:47:43,486 [laughing] 871 00:47:43,778 --> 00:47:46,155 [Adam Nimoy] What does that mean? 872 00:47:46,447 --> 00:47:52,078 Well, uh, he developed a very strong work ethic. 873 00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:58,042 [Leonard Nimoy] I rarely turned down any paid engagement. 874 00:47:58,334 --> 00:47:59,878 I'd seen many of my actor friends 875 00:48:00,169 --> 00:48:01,838 go to work on a series for a few years 876 00:48:02,130 --> 00:48:04,257 and live up to the level of their income, 877 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:06,009 and then when the series was canceled, 878 00:48:06,301 --> 00:48:07,635 they were once again looking for work 879 00:48:07,927 --> 00:48:10,763 with no steady income and no money in the bank. 880 00:48:12,223 --> 00:48:13,683 I made a private pact with myself 881 00:48:13,975 --> 00:48:16,352 that this would never happen to me and my family. 882 00:48:16,644 --> 00:48:20,440 So every time I was offered a paid appearance, I took it. 883 00:48:23,151 --> 00:48:26,404 This meant that I left the studio at 5:00 or 6:00 on Friday night. 884 00:48:26,696 --> 00:48:29,115 I took a red eye flight to my destination. 885 00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:32,827 I'd arrive on the East Coast around 6:00 Saturday morning 886 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,997 and catch the last flight out on Sunday night. 887 00:48:36,289 --> 00:48:37,874 I can remember a time or two 888 00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:40,752 when I got back to Los Angeles at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning on Monday. 889 00:48:41,044 --> 00:48:44,047 I'd go right to the studio, stagger into my dressing room, 890 00:48:44,339 --> 00:48:46,591 and catch a few hours sleep on the couch. 891 00:48:46,883 --> 00:48:49,010 From there, I headed right into makeup. 892 00:48:55,683 --> 00:48:57,226 [Adam Nimoy] There were a number of photographers 893 00:48:57,518 --> 00:48:59,729 who showed up to take our picture in those early days, 894 00:49:00,021 --> 00:49:02,774 '66, '67, and into '68, 895 00:49:03,066 --> 00:49:04,609 and we were happy to do it. It was fun. 896 00:49:04,901 --> 00:49:06,694 I've got to admit. It was like a circus. 897 00:49:06,986 --> 00:49:09,072 It was a joyride, and it was really a good time. 898 00:49:23,002 --> 00:49:25,171 First, it was like novel. It was great. 899 00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:27,632 It was like, "Oh, wow, we're getting our picture taken. 900 00:49:27,924 --> 00:49:30,301 We're going to be in a magazine. It's so cool." 901 00:49:30,593 --> 00:49:32,887 But after a while, it got tiresome. 902 00:49:33,179 --> 00:49:36,099 It became sort of an invasion of our life, 903 00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,768 and us not really understanding, 904 00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:41,938 you know, "Why do we have to do this? Why is this so important?" 905 00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:43,523 We were young. 906 00:49:43,815 --> 00:49:45,984 [Adam Nimoy] There was one time... I believe it was 1970. 907 00:49:46,275 --> 00:49:47,360 There was a photographer there, 908 00:49:47,652 --> 00:49:49,237 and we were supposed to come in and take pictures, 909 00:49:49,529 --> 00:49:50,697 and Julie and I were like, "Huh-uh." 910 00:49:50,989 --> 00:49:52,657 We joined together, we unionized, and we said no. 911 00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:54,242 You can't say no to Leonard. 912 00:49:54,534 --> 00:49:55,827 I've got to tell you. It's just... 913 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:58,037 I mean, we felt guilty. We wanted to support him, 914 00:49:58,329 --> 00:50:00,707 but we were really done with the whole... 915 00:50:00,999 --> 00:50:02,417 the whole publicity routine. 916 00:50:02,709 --> 00:50:04,585 We took a really good family portrait 917 00:50:04,877 --> 00:50:08,297 which is emblematic, I think, of where we were at that time in our lives, 918 00:50:08,589 --> 00:50:10,341 because no one is smiling. 919 00:50:17,181 --> 00:50:19,600 In "Star Trek", in the mid-60s, 920 00:50:19,892 --> 00:50:24,480 creating this character who would soon become a pop culture icon... 921 00:50:24,772 --> 00:50:27,108 My dad was never really that in touch 922 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,028 with what was going on in popular culture. 923 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:33,573 It's so interesting that when he was at home during leisure time, 924 00:50:33,865 --> 00:50:37,118 he was listening to records of guys like Heath Mantan, 925 00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:39,912 and Lou Rawls, and Charles Aznavour. 926 00:50:40,204 --> 00:50:43,958 Our mom was... ahead of her time. 927 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:47,670 At first, when you look back at pictures of her, 928 00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:52,175 she was dressed very, uh, 50's housewife 929 00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:53,885 but still had style. 930 00:50:54,177 --> 00:50:55,970 [rock music playing] 931 00:51:06,272 --> 00:51:09,984 Dad stayed still very, you know, in his dressing, conservative, 932 00:51:10,276 --> 00:51:14,655 but Mom tried to, you know, change his style up a bit. 933 00:51:14,947 --> 00:51:18,034 So he started, you know, wearing a little cooler clothes, 934 00:51:18,326 --> 00:51:21,829 some jeans, the little scarf, you know, around his neck. 935 00:51:22,121 --> 00:51:24,082 And his hair was done a little cooler. 936 00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:28,252 Even though he had the Spock haircut, you know, 937 00:51:28,544 --> 00:51:30,880 somehow he could brush it off to the side a little bit, 938 00:51:31,172 --> 00:51:34,258 and he looked a little, a little hipper, yeah. 939 00:51:34,550 --> 00:51:37,220 [psychedelic music playing] 940 00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:03,913 [Leonard Nimoy] NBC failed to renew "Star Trek" for a fourth season. 941 00:52:06,499 --> 00:52:09,085 A short time after we finished shooting for "Star Trek," 942 00:52:09,377 --> 00:52:12,130 I signed on with "Mission Impossible." 943 00:52:12,421 --> 00:52:14,340 ["Mission Impossible" theme playing] 944 00:52:19,053 --> 00:52:20,388 [Adam Nimoy] Before he started on "Mission," 945 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,306 there was a press conference in Honolulu 946 00:52:22,598 --> 00:52:24,976 announcing that he was joining the show. 947 00:52:27,145 --> 00:52:28,855 It was a very exciting experience for me 948 00:52:29,147 --> 00:52:30,815 to be there spending time with Dad. 949 00:52:31,107 --> 00:52:34,861 Although, by then, sharing him with the fans had become a part of my life. 950 00:52:35,153 --> 00:52:36,863 [Leonard Nimoy] My character, Paris The Great, 951 00:52:37,155 --> 00:52:38,322 was a master of disguise. 952 00:52:38,614 --> 00:52:41,242 Therefore, I got to play a multitude of characters, 953 00:52:41,534 --> 00:52:44,704 old men, Asians, South American dictators, 954 00:52:44,996 --> 00:52:47,456 blind men, Europeans. 955 00:52:47,748 --> 00:52:49,208 But then, before I knew it, 956 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,544 I was playing the South American dictator again, 957 00:52:51,836 --> 00:52:55,840 and the Asian, and the old man, and the blind guy. 958 00:52:56,132 --> 00:52:57,550 It got boring. 959 00:52:57,842 --> 00:53:00,052 A short while later, I left the show. 960 00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:05,266 After "Mission Impossible", 961 00:53:05,558 --> 00:53:07,560 I played Tevye in "Fiddler On The Roof." 962 00:53:07,852 --> 00:53:09,729 It was only the first experience 963 00:53:10,021 --> 00:53:12,982 in my extremely enjoyable theatrical career. 964 00:53:13,274 --> 00:53:16,027 In "Fiddler on the Roof", he was magnificent. 965 00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:19,739 He was very precise. 966 00:53:20,031 --> 00:53:23,034 He avoided every cliche. 967 00:53:23,326 --> 00:53:28,414 And as he grew into the role, he was extravagant. 968 00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:33,085 His portrayal of Tevye in "Fiddler On The Roof" was utterly fantastic. 969 00:53:33,377 --> 00:53:35,338 Probably the best of any I've seen. 970 00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:38,424 - Because he was an actor. - Like a real actor. 971 00:53:38,716 --> 00:53:45,431 I think he realized that what would make that work in a non-Broadway setting 972 00:53:45,723 --> 00:53:49,185 was it was about him, and his wife, and his kids. 973 00:53:49,477 --> 00:53:51,604 And it was beautifully sculptured. 974 00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:54,690 [Leonard Nimoy] I went on to appear as Fagin in "Oliver," 975 00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:56,400 Arthur in "Camelot, 976 00:53:56,692 --> 00:54:00,196 and a one-man play about Vincent Van Gogh. 977 00:54:00,488 --> 00:54:02,698 [Adam Nimoy] In the early '70s, Dad was in a play called 978 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:05,534 "Man in the Glass Booth," and it was a terrific play. 979 00:54:05,826 --> 00:54:07,370 He really owned up to that role. 980 00:54:07,662 --> 00:54:09,705 And as I watched him night after night, 981 00:54:09,997 --> 00:54:13,793 he was completely unrecognizable to me as my own father. 982 00:54:14,085 --> 00:54:17,713 He had to play a wealthy... 983 00:54:18,005 --> 00:54:24,220 braggadocio, vain, egocentric New York Jew. 984 00:54:24,512 --> 00:54:27,556 Not a Jewish man, but a Jew. 985 00:54:27,848 --> 00:54:31,936 And as the play develops, when the Jew gets arrested 986 00:54:32,228 --> 00:54:36,232 as being a concentration camp commandant, 987 00:54:36,524 --> 00:54:40,528 he then has to play the meanest, most committed, 988 00:54:40,820 --> 00:54:46,909 most devoted Nazi officer you can imagine. 989 00:54:47,201 --> 00:54:49,912 And he stands up in the booth. 990 00:54:50,204 --> 00:54:53,124 Not supposed to do that in Israeli court. 991 00:54:53,416 --> 00:54:55,418 He stands up, and he's in his regalia. 992 00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:58,296 He's in his uniform, but he doesn't have his hat on. 993 00:54:59,672 --> 00:55:04,677 And when he put that hat on, he changed. 994 00:55:04,969 --> 00:55:07,054 You didn't want to go anywhere near him. 995 00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:13,769 - Very quietly... And this was him. - [rapping on desk] 996 00:55:14,061 --> 00:55:17,398 He starts moving like this. 997 00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:22,903 And he marches to the last bit of dialogue. 998 00:55:23,195 --> 00:55:26,407 And it gets louder, and louder, and louder. 999 00:55:26,699 --> 00:55:29,952 If a director had come up with that, he should get an award. 1000 00:55:30,244 --> 00:55:32,455 The actor came up with it, and he should get an award. 1001 00:55:32,747 --> 00:55:34,248 It was chilling. 1002 00:55:37,543 --> 00:55:41,380 The times when your dad was performing in New York, 1003 00:55:41,672 --> 00:55:43,257 and then we would see each other very often, 1004 00:55:43,549 --> 00:55:46,260 and that's when they started to go closer. 1005 00:55:46,552 --> 00:55:48,012 And then we became his groupies. 1006 00:55:48,304 --> 00:55:51,974 When he performed anyplace east of the Mississippi, 1007 00:55:52,266 --> 00:55:54,602 we would fly out to be there. 1008 00:56:06,947 --> 00:56:10,910 One summer, he did two plays. 1009 00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:13,704 One in Michigan, and one in Wisconsin. 1010 00:56:13,996 --> 00:56:19,377 And at that time, he was flying his own single engine airplane, 1011 00:56:19,668 --> 00:56:22,088 and I flew a lot with him. I love flying. 1012 00:56:22,380 --> 00:56:24,673 So, I plotted the entire course out. 1013 00:56:24,965 --> 00:56:27,676 I took lessons, and I got my little license. 1014 00:56:27,968 --> 00:56:30,930 Not a pilot's license. I got-- They call it a pinch hitter. 1015 00:56:31,222 --> 00:56:32,598 So that if anything happened to him, 1016 00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:35,351 I could take over without a problem. 1017 00:56:35,643 --> 00:56:41,732 And that was probably one of the best times I ever had with him. 1018 00:56:42,024 --> 00:56:44,860 The decade of the '70s was kind of an interesting period for my dad, 1019 00:56:45,152 --> 00:56:46,362 because he had done so much theater work. 1020 00:56:46,654 --> 00:56:48,197 He was really kind of proving himself 1021 00:56:48,489 --> 00:56:50,783 as the character actor that he always wanted to be. 1022 00:56:51,075 --> 00:56:54,412 He also hosted multiple seasons of "In Search Of." 1023 00:56:54,703 --> 00:56:55,871 ...underwritten in part by a national... 1024 00:56:56,163 --> 00:56:57,873 [Adam Nimoy] And he was in Philip Kaufman's remake 1025 00:56:58,165 --> 00:57:00,376 of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." 1026 00:57:00,668 --> 00:57:01,877 They were shooting in San Francisco, 1027 00:57:02,169 --> 00:57:03,879 and I happened to be in school at Berkeley, 1028 00:57:04,171 --> 00:57:06,882 and it was just a lot of fun watching them make that film. 1029 00:57:07,174 --> 00:57:08,759 But what happens to us? 1030 00:57:09,051 --> 00:57:11,262 You'll be born again into an untroubled world. 1031 00:57:11,554 --> 00:57:14,098 He was a multifaceted individual that is for sure. 1032 00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:16,934 I knew that as a kid. I used to watch "In Search Of," 1033 00:57:17,226 --> 00:57:19,353 and I remember him in the Kaufman "Body Snatchers" 1034 00:57:19,645 --> 00:57:21,689 and "Mission Impossible," you know. 1035 00:57:21,981 --> 00:57:25,443 Uh, he was never just Spock to me even growing up. 1036 00:57:25,734 --> 00:57:29,071 We came here from a dying world. 1037 00:57:29,363 --> 00:57:32,241 We drift through the universe from planet to planet 1038 00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:34,952 pushed on by the solar winds. 1039 00:57:35,244 --> 00:57:38,038 We adapt, and we survive. 1040 00:57:45,463 --> 00:57:47,965 Captain, I found this device on my console. 1041 00:57:48,257 --> 00:57:51,010 It seems to serve no useful function and-- 1042 00:57:51,302 --> 00:57:53,179 [laughing] 1043 00:57:53,471 --> 00:57:54,680 Captain? 1044 00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:57,850 [laughing] I'm sorry, Spock, It's your-- 1045 00:57:58,142 --> 00:58:00,853 [laughing] 1046 00:58:01,145 --> 00:58:06,650 When they began casting, we weren't-- I wasn't called. 1047 00:58:06,942 --> 00:58:09,278 It was decided that George in the show 1048 00:58:09,570 --> 00:58:12,656 would not appear on the series. 1049 00:58:12,948 --> 00:58:15,576 And I thought, "What's happening?" 1050 00:58:15,868 --> 00:58:18,037 Uh, then it was announced 1051 00:58:18,329 --> 00:58:22,625 that Bill was cast to do Captain Kirk. 1052 00:58:22,917 --> 00:58:25,586 Leonard was cast to do Mr. Spock. 1053 00:58:25,878 --> 00:58:27,922 Jimmy Doohan was cast to do Scotty 1054 00:58:28,214 --> 00:58:31,175 and all the other male voices, 1055 00:58:31,467 --> 00:58:34,261 and Majel was cast to do Nurse Chapel 1056 00:58:34,553 --> 00:58:36,430 and all of the female voices. 1057 00:58:36,722 --> 00:58:41,560 But when Leonard learned of that, he said, 1058 00:58:41,852 --> 00:58:47,316 "What Star Trek is about is diversity, coming together, 1059 00:58:47,608 --> 00:58:51,070 and working in concert as a team." 1060 00:58:51,362 --> 00:58:57,535 And he said, "The two people that most personify that diversity in our cast 1061 00:58:57,826 --> 00:59:00,704 "are Nichelle Nichols and George Takei. 1062 00:59:00,996 --> 00:59:02,957 "And if they're not going to be a part of this, 1063 00:59:03,249 --> 00:59:06,377 then I'm not interested." 1064 00:59:06,669 --> 00:59:09,922 How many times does that happen in this business, you know? 1065 00:59:10,214 --> 00:59:12,216 It says a lot about Leonard. 1066 00:59:27,565 --> 00:59:31,026 [Adam Nimoy] Tuesday, October 22nd, 1973. 1067 00:59:32,403 --> 00:59:36,782 "Dear Adam, this may turn out to be a long letter. 1068 00:59:37,074 --> 00:59:39,868 "I'm very glad I could see you and Julie on Sunday. 1069 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,037 "It was good to be with you, 1070 00:59:42,329 --> 00:59:44,331 "but I think it might have been especially useful 1071 00:59:44,623 --> 00:59:46,542 "in putting our relationship, you and me, 1072 00:59:46,834 --> 00:59:48,335 "in a new perspective. 1073 00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,629 "This came out of our argument. 1074 00:59:50,921 --> 00:59:55,384 "I discovered you and I were having a terrible battle on a verbal battleground. 1075 00:59:55,676 --> 00:59:59,680 "I felt very sad about it, and all I could say was, 'I'm sorry.' 1076 00:59:59,972 --> 01:00:01,765 "It suddenly occurred to me that it might be useful 1077 01:00:02,057 --> 01:00:06,520 "if I tell you some things about my relationship with my father. 1078 01:00:06,812 --> 01:00:08,230 "I always loved and feared him, 1079 01:00:08,522 --> 01:00:12,276 "but we had very little real personal contact. 1080 01:00:12,568 --> 01:00:15,487 "He was not a demonstrative man. 1081 01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:18,240 "Most of my day-to-day interaction was with my mother 1082 01:00:18,532 --> 01:00:22,077 "with my father in the background as a sort of weapon. 1083 01:00:22,369 --> 01:00:25,456 Neither of them was ever very giving of approval." 1084 01:00:25,748 --> 01:00:27,499 You guys were at odds a lot 1085 01:00:27,791 --> 01:00:30,419 about some of the company you were keeping 1086 01:00:30,711 --> 01:00:32,171 and some of the things you were doing. 1087 01:00:32,463 --> 01:00:37,134 In the early '70s, there was a slight lull in Dad's work career, 1088 01:00:37,426 --> 01:00:41,221 and he was at home for the first time, hanging out, 1089 01:00:41,513 --> 01:00:43,807 and not really quite knowing what to do with himself. 1090 01:00:44,099 --> 01:00:46,310 And it was also during this time 1091 01:00:46,602 --> 01:00:49,647 when he was taking a close look at me and my life. 1092 01:00:49,938 --> 01:00:52,524 What he saw was, to him, not that pretty. 1093 01:00:52,816 --> 01:00:55,110 Even though I was doing very well in school... 1094 01:00:55,402 --> 01:00:56,904 I was a senior in high school, 1095 01:00:57,196 --> 01:01:00,199 and by this time, I was like a full fledged Deadhead. 1096 01:01:00,491 --> 01:01:04,495 [psychedelic music playing] 1097 01:01:11,168 --> 01:01:14,254 I mean... need I say more? 1098 01:01:14,546 --> 01:01:16,340 I mean, you know... 1099 01:01:16,632 --> 01:01:18,842 It was just not a good time for us. 1100 01:01:22,096 --> 01:01:24,807 ♪ In the middle of the earth in the land of the shire ♪ 1101 01:01:25,099 --> 01:01:27,643 ♪ Lives a brave little hobbit whom we all admire ♪ 1102 01:01:27,935 --> 01:01:30,896 ♪ With his long wooden pipe Fuzzy, woolly toes ♪ 1103 01:01:31,188 --> 01:01:33,857 ♪ He lives in a hobbit hole And everybody knows him ♪ 1104 01:01:34,149 --> 01:01:35,609 ♪ -Bilbo - Bilbo ♪ 1105 01:01:35,901 --> 01:01:37,152 ♪ Bilbo Baggins ♪ 1106 01:01:37,444 --> 01:01:40,114 ♪ He's only three feet tall ♪ 1107 01:01:40,406 --> 01:01:41,824 ♪ -Bilbo - Bilbo ♪ 1108 01:01:42,116 --> 01:01:43,200 ♪ Bilbo Baggins ♪ 1109 01:01:43,492 --> 01:01:46,036 ♪ The bravest little hobbit of them all ♪ 1110 01:01:47,538 --> 01:01:48,997 Captain? 1111 01:01:49,289 --> 01:01:50,541 ♪ One day, Bilbo was asked to go... ♪ 1112 01:01:50,833 --> 01:01:52,000 What in the name of... 1113 01:01:52,292 --> 01:01:53,544 ♪ To the caves below ♪ 1114 01:01:53,836 --> 01:01:55,170 ♪ To help some dwarfs get back their gold ♪ 1115 01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:58,173 Am I... seeing things? 1116 01:01:58,465 --> 01:02:00,008 Not unless I am too. 1117 01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:01,468 ♪ -Bilbo - Bilbo ♪ 1118 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,803 ♪ Bilbo Baggins ♪ 1119 01:02:03,095 --> 01:02:05,013 ♪ He's only three feet tall ♪ 1120 01:02:05,305 --> 01:02:07,349 What is it, Mr. Spock? 1121 01:02:07,641 --> 01:02:09,101 ♪ Bilbo Baggins ♪ 1122 01:02:09,393 --> 01:02:11,562 ♪ The bravest little hobbit of them all ♪ 1123 01:02:26,785 --> 01:02:30,038 [Leonard Nimoy] Having had only marginal success on NBC for three years, 1124 01:02:30,330 --> 01:02:33,208 the show took on new life in syndication. 1125 01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:37,087 Gradually, the show and its audience found each other. 1126 01:02:37,379 --> 01:02:40,674 By the mid '70s, it was becoming a media event. 1127 01:02:40,966 --> 01:02:43,385 Thousands and thousands of new devotees 1128 01:02:43,677 --> 01:02:44,970 sat in front of their TV sets 1129 01:02:45,262 --> 01:02:48,974 memorizing each episode's dialogue word for word. 1130 01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:54,146 Risk... risk is our business. 1131 01:02:54,438 --> 01:02:56,190 [Jason Alexander] "That's what this starship is all about. 1132 01:02:56,482 --> 01:03:00,068 "That's why we're aboard her. 1133 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,365 "Dr. McCoy is right to point out the enormous risk involved 1134 01:03:05,657 --> 01:03:08,952 "with interaction between any two alien species, 1135 01:03:09,244 --> 01:03:11,580 but the potential--" [laughing] 1136 01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:17,628 There's something that I became aware of in doing my research very recently 1137 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,213 called The Slash Fantasy, 1138 01:03:19,505 --> 01:03:22,174 the Kirk-Spock slash fantasy. 1139 01:03:22,466 --> 01:03:26,011 And there's a phenomenal edited video on YouTube. 1140 01:03:26,303 --> 01:03:28,764 And some fan, somebody's taken a lot of footage 1141 01:03:29,056 --> 01:03:32,309 of Kirk and Spock out of context from "The Original Series" 1142 01:03:32,601 --> 01:03:35,562 to show this homo-erotic relationship between them, 1143 01:03:35,854 --> 01:03:38,398 and it's pretty damn compelling. 1144 01:03:49,326 --> 01:03:53,413 At conventions, I saw slash zines 1145 01:03:53,705 --> 01:03:56,875 with illustrations done by very good artists 1146 01:03:57,167 --> 01:04:02,631 and they were much, much more explicit between Kirk and Spock. 1147 01:04:02,923 --> 01:04:06,301 It's a matter of who is looking at it, 1148 01:04:06,593 --> 01:04:08,053 from what perspective, 1149 01:04:08,345 --> 01:04:14,935 and from the perspective of gay people seeing that is eye opening. 1150 01:04:15,227 --> 01:04:19,565 They see the gay passion, the gay attraction, 1151 01:04:19,857 --> 01:04:24,152 and the gay anguish depicted in those scenes. 1152 01:04:35,956 --> 01:04:38,292 [Leonard Nimoy] At my first convention in 1972, 1153 01:04:38,584 --> 01:04:40,168 I walked into a hall so crowded 1154 01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,754 the thunderous wall of noise that greeted me 1155 01:04:43,046 --> 01:04:44,882 took me completely by surprise. 1156 01:04:45,173 --> 01:04:49,177 For several seconds, I literally could not speak because of the emotion. 1157 01:04:49,469 --> 01:04:53,015 One of the things that I really respect about your dad was, 1158 01:04:53,307 --> 01:04:54,975 I guess, his love and affection for the fans 1159 01:04:55,267 --> 01:04:58,395 and how he always had time and energy. 1160 01:04:58,687 --> 01:05:00,439 You know, going to conventions and meeting people... 1161 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:02,357 You know, I'm blown away 1162 01:05:02,649 --> 01:05:08,113 by how much love there is for your father. 1163 01:05:08,405 --> 01:05:10,032 [Leonard Nimoy] It was an entirely new concept, 1164 01:05:10,324 --> 01:05:14,411 this gathering of fans to celebrate "Trek" for a weekend. 1165 01:05:14,703 --> 01:05:16,121 The organizers crossed their fingers 1166 01:05:16,413 --> 01:05:19,249 and hoped for 500 attendees. 1167 01:05:19,541 --> 01:05:21,501 They got 3,000. 1168 01:05:22,836 --> 01:05:25,464 We went to one "Star Trek" convention. 1169 01:05:25,756 --> 01:05:28,717 I think it was in LA, but I'm not sure. 1170 01:05:29,009 --> 01:05:29,801 I think you're right. 1171 01:05:30,093 --> 01:05:31,887 Yeah, it was a wild place. 1172 01:05:32,179 --> 01:05:33,847 I remember them having to get us out the back door. 1173 01:05:34,139 --> 01:05:35,098 Right. 1174 01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:38,226 [Adam Nimoy] Oh, okay. What was that like? 1175 01:05:38,518 --> 01:05:39,269 Wild. 1176 01:06:02,417 --> 01:06:04,044 [Pegg] I think "Star Trek" fans have sort of pioneered 1177 01:06:04,336 --> 01:06:06,171 the whole cos-play culture which now exists 1178 01:06:06,463 --> 01:06:07,798 where, you know, you go to any convention, 1179 01:06:08,090 --> 01:06:10,717 and people are dressed up as a multitude of things 1180 01:06:11,009 --> 01:06:15,013 from the most obscure to the most popular. 1181 01:06:15,305 --> 01:06:21,186 I've been blown away going to now these conventions for a number of years, 1182 01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:24,856 seeing what people are able, and willing, and, you know, 1183 01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:27,234 what they commit to dress up as and do, 1184 01:06:27,526 --> 01:06:29,528 and it's unbelievable. 1185 01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:31,697 We thought they were crazy. 1186 01:06:31,989 --> 01:06:33,699 [laughing] 1187 01:06:39,871 --> 01:06:42,040 I'm here. I'm really here. I can't believe it. 1188 01:06:42,332 --> 01:06:45,252 My first "Star Trek" convention. Watch your back. Here we go. 1189 01:06:50,007 --> 01:06:51,883 So much stuff. 1190 01:06:55,178 --> 01:06:56,430 Really cool. 1191 01:07:02,811 --> 01:07:04,271 Whoa. 1192 01:07:06,398 --> 01:07:07,482 Wow. 1193 01:07:09,526 --> 01:07:12,070 Spock, status report? 1194 01:07:12,362 --> 01:07:15,782 Pollux IV, class M type planet, oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere. 1195 01:07:16,074 --> 01:07:19,077 Sensors indicate no life forms. 1196 01:07:19,369 --> 01:07:23,331 In all respects, quite ordinary, Captain. 1197 01:07:23,623 --> 01:07:26,543 Bobak, I want you to tell me a little bit about your history with "Star Trek", 1198 01:07:26,835 --> 01:07:28,420 how it's affected your life. 1199 01:07:28,712 --> 01:07:30,964 I would say it's probably one of the biggest reasons why I work at NASA. 1200 01:07:31,256 --> 01:07:33,383 I mean, honestly, like, you know, seeing this "Star Trek," 1201 01:07:33,675 --> 01:07:35,635 you know, this vision of the future 1202 01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:39,389 is one of the reasons why I work there today. 1203 01:07:39,681 --> 01:07:44,061 Seeing a future where people from all different cultures and backgrounds 1204 01:07:44,352 --> 01:07:45,145 were working together. 1205 01:07:45,437 --> 01:07:46,980 You know, the betterment of humanity. 1206 01:07:47,272 --> 01:07:50,358 I think that was a vision of the future that I wanted to help create. 1207 01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:53,403 If "Star Trek" was the vision of the future that I wanted to create, 1208 01:07:53,695 --> 01:07:57,115 Spock was the internalization of the kind of person that I felt like I was. 1209 01:07:57,407 --> 01:07:59,201 You know, as someone who was from two cultures, 1210 01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:01,787 you know, Iranian father, an American mother, 1211 01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:05,582 I saw in Spock, you know, that same conflict, I guess, 1212 01:08:05,874 --> 01:08:07,793 of, "Which one am I? Am I both? 1213 01:08:08,085 --> 01:08:10,712 Is there a happy medium of the two?" 1214 01:08:11,004 --> 01:08:14,549 But also at the same time, I saw that he was accepted 1215 01:08:14,841 --> 01:08:17,928 by his, you know, colleagues. 1216 01:08:18,220 --> 01:08:20,055 Spock stood for a lot of different things. 1217 01:08:20,347 --> 01:08:23,558 He stood for intelligence, integrity. 1218 01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:27,020 He stood for the idea of really searching for truth, 1219 01:08:27,312 --> 01:08:29,606 for figuring out how things really work. 1220 01:08:29,898 --> 01:08:31,983 That is the underpinning of science, really. 1221 01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:37,030 So I think for a lot of people, Spock was representative of science itself, 1222 01:08:37,322 --> 01:08:41,076 of using the human mind to overcome kind of the forces of chaos 1223 01:08:41,368 --> 01:08:42,911 and make sense of things. 1224 01:08:43,203 --> 01:08:45,413 That really resonates with a lot of people here, I would say. 1225 01:08:45,705 --> 01:08:46,706 It certainly did with me. 1226 01:08:46,998 --> 01:08:49,251 And I knew the minute I read "Star Trek" books, 1227 01:08:49,543 --> 01:08:52,212 that was the character I most wanted to emulate with my career. 1228 01:08:52,504 --> 01:08:55,090 [deGrasse Tyson] Spock was a scientist. 1229 01:08:55,382 --> 01:08:58,343 Now, for me, I knew I liked science before "Star Trek." 1230 01:08:58,635 --> 01:09:02,931 So Spock and I resonated, I think, uh... 1231 01:09:03,223 --> 01:09:08,311 in a way that surely helped, but didn't initiate my interest. 1232 01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:12,607 But I wonder if the slow but real appreciation 1233 01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:15,026 for what science is and why it matters 1234 01:09:15,318 --> 01:09:17,863 that I see manifesting today, 1235 01:09:18,155 --> 01:09:20,157 whether it owes its origin 1236 01:09:20,448 --> 01:09:22,617 to that series, to that character. 1237 01:09:28,331 --> 01:09:30,250 - Are you a "Star Trek" fan? - Yes. 1238 01:09:30,542 --> 01:09:32,878 - How long have you been a fan? - A hundred years. 1239 01:09:33,170 --> 01:09:35,422 A hundred years "Star Trek" fan, okay. 1240 01:09:38,091 --> 01:09:40,427 [Interviewer] You've had your own connection to "Star Trek." 1241 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:42,804 You've directed "Star Trek" episodes. 1242 01:09:43,096 --> 01:09:46,183 But before that, you were an entertainment attorney. 1243 01:09:46,474 --> 01:09:48,393 What was that all about? What got you into that in the first place? 1244 01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:52,230 You know, it's very difficult when you are the son of a celebrity 1245 01:09:52,522 --> 01:09:55,692 and somebody who becomes a pop culture icon, 1246 01:09:55,984 --> 01:09:57,819 to try to create your own identity, 1247 01:09:58,111 --> 01:09:59,946 to find out who you are in essence. 1248 01:10:00,238 --> 01:10:03,241 And so, this was my way of really creating my own path. 1249 01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:05,911 He was very proud of the fact that I went to law school, 1250 01:10:06,203 --> 01:10:08,121 and I started practicing law. 1251 01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:10,123 But after seven years of practicing, 1252 01:10:10,415 --> 01:10:12,500 it became very clear to me that this was not something 1253 01:10:12,792 --> 01:10:14,127 I wanted to do for the rest of my life. 1254 01:10:14,419 --> 01:10:18,590 I didn't have the passion for it that I thought was important. 1255 01:10:18,882 --> 01:10:20,467 That was really Dad's whole philosophy was 1256 01:10:20,759 --> 01:10:22,469 you have to have a passion for what you do. 1257 01:10:22,761 --> 01:10:25,555 Otherwise, it's just work, and it's not fulfilling. 1258 01:10:25,847 --> 01:10:30,310 My dad was very sympathetic about my desire to make a career change 1259 01:10:30,602 --> 01:10:33,271 and even helped me, trained me as a director. 1260 01:10:33,563 --> 01:10:35,774 He and I actually made an episode 1261 01:10:36,066 --> 01:10:37,609 of "The Outer Limits" together. 1262 01:10:37,901 --> 01:10:41,363 We were remaking an episode that he was originally in in the early '60s 1263 01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:43,448 in which he had a supporting role. 1264 01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:46,368 Your design and your construction are nothing short of genius, 1265 01:10:46,660 --> 01:10:49,996 but even you must understand that you're basically a takeoff 1266 01:10:50,288 --> 01:10:54,251 on the thoughts and feelings that Dr. Link programmed into you. 1267 01:10:54,542 --> 01:10:58,964 A man suffers, a man bleeds, a man has a soul. 1268 01:10:59,256 --> 01:11:01,633 I could snap your neck as if it were a toothpick. 1269 01:11:01,925 --> 01:11:04,844 In that sense, you're right. I'm not like most men. 1270 01:11:05,136 --> 01:11:07,806 But like most men, I choose not to. 1271 01:11:08,098 --> 01:11:09,641 Let me go. 1272 01:11:15,021 --> 01:11:17,774 [Leonard Nimoy] The story of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" 1273 01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:22,445 rightly begins in London where my wife and I were vacationing in 1975. 1274 01:11:22,737 --> 01:11:27,033 We went to see Henry Fonda who was performing on stage in "Darrow." 1275 01:11:27,325 --> 01:11:30,036 After the performance, we joined him and his wife for dinner. 1276 01:11:30,328 --> 01:11:32,247 At some point during the conversation, Henry said, 1277 01:11:32,539 --> 01:11:34,165 "You know, Leonard, I hope you're being paid 1278 01:11:34,457 --> 01:11:36,543 for all those billboards around town." 1279 01:11:36,835 --> 01:11:39,129 - [beer pouring] - [Leonard Nimoy] "What billboards, Henry?" 1280 01:11:39,421 --> 01:11:43,425 "Do you mean to tell me you don't know about all those Heineken billboards?" 1281 01:11:43,717 --> 01:11:46,928 Now, I'd seen my Spock image used commercially before, 1282 01:11:47,220 --> 01:11:49,139 such as on a box of Kellogg's Corn Flakes. 1283 01:11:49,431 --> 01:11:53,226 I'd been amused by it, finding it campy and even flattering. 1284 01:11:53,518 --> 01:11:55,812 Once "Star Trek" was canceled, 1285 01:11:56,104 --> 01:12:01,109 Paramount had no legal right to license my likeness from that time on. 1286 01:12:01,401 --> 01:12:03,695 So not only had Paramount been marketing me as Spock 1287 01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:06,781 for almost 10 years without the right to do so, 1288 01:12:07,073 --> 01:12:11,578 for the last five of those 10, they hadn't sent me any of the proceeds. 1289 01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:14,831 I wound up having to file a lawsuit. 1290 01:12:15,123 --> 01:12:17,000 They wanted to make this movie. 1291 01:12:17,292 --> 01:12:19,085 And Bob Weiss had it in his contract 1292 01:12:19,377 --> 01:12:21,296 that they would make their best efforts to get me in the movie. 1293 01:12:21,588 --> 01:12:23,214 And my agent would call me and say, 1294 01:12:23,506 --> 01:12:24,966 "They wanna talk to you about the 'Star Trek' movie." And I would say... 1295 01:12:25,258 --> 01:12:28,011 "When we settle the lawsuit, I'll talk about acting in their movie," 1296 01:12:28,303 --> 01:12:30,764 because I thought that's my leverage. 1297 01:12:31,056 --> 01:12:32,640 So that went on for some time. 1298 01:12:32,932 --> 01:12:36,936 And... finally, I got a call 1299 01:12:37,228 --> 01:12:38,688 from a guy who introduced himself to me. 1300 01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:40,607 He said, "My name is Jeff Katzenberg, 1301 01:12:40,899 --> 01:12:42,734 and I've just gone to work for Paramount." 1302 01:12:43,026 --> 01:12:47,280 And I was acting in "Equus" on Broadway at the time in New York. 1303 01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:50,200 [Jeffrey Katzenberg] So there goes little Jeffrey off trotting to New York... 1304 01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:54,037 [laughing]...to say to him, "You've got to put the ears back on." 1305 01:12:54,329 --> 01:12:55,997 So I went, and I saw the show, 1306 01:12:56,289 --> 01:12:58,208 and after the show, we went to Joe Allen's. 1307 01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:02,629 I said to him, "We're going to make the movie. 1308 01:13:02,921 --> 01:13:04,798 "Those ears are going on. 1309 01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:09,010 "They're either going on you, or they're actually going to go on somebody else, 1310 01:13:09,302 --> 01:13:11,096 "but they are going to go on. 1311 01:13:11,388 --> 01:13:16,142 And how badly will you feel when you didn't put them on?" 1312 01:13:16,434 --> 01:13:20,730 The big leverage that he always had beginning with these movies 1313 01:13:21,022 --> 01:13:24,984 was that Paramount Pictures needed him, 1314 01:13:25,276 --> 01:13:27,987 and they couldn't make a "Star Trek" movie without him. 1315 01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:29,906 [Leonard Nimoy] Finally, my lawyer called. 1316 01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:34,327 "Look, Paramount is actually showing some willingness to reach an agreement. 1317 01:13:34,619 --> 01:13:37,330 "Will you read the script if they settle the lawsuit?" 1318 01:13:37,622 --> 01:13:38,998 "Yes." 1319 01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:41,960 Four days later, on a Friday evening, the lawsuit settled. 1320 01:13:42,252 --> 01:13:44,671 My lawyer came to my house with a check. 1321 01:13:44,963 --> 01:13:47,215 An hour later, the script arrived. 1322 01:13:47,507 --> 01:13:50,301 I sat down and read it through that night. 1323 01:13:50,593 --> 01:13:52,053 [Interviewer] Leonard Nimoy was the last person 1324 01:13:52,345 --> 01:13:56,433 to join the movie cast and was asked why he was a hold out. 1325 01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,143 I don't think it was a question of hold out. 1326 01:13:58,435 --> 01:14:02,188 We've had a long and... complicated relationship, 1327 01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:05,024 I mean, Paramount and myself, for the last couple of years. 1328 01:14:05,316 --> 01:14:06,860 And probably the thing that took the most time 1329 01:14:07,152 --> 01:14:09,112 is the fact that the mail service 1330 01:14:09,404 --> 01:14:11,906 between here and Vulcan is still pretty slow. 1331 01:14:19,956 --> 01:14:21,458 Spock. 1332 01:14:23,710 --> 01:14:27,589 Making that first movie was very, very dis-spiriting, 1333 01:14:27,881 --> 01:14:29,215 very depressing. 1334 01:14:29,507 --> 01:14:31,259 We had a bad script, bad script. 1335 01:14:31,551 --> 01:14:33,219 It just never worked. It was always a struggle 1336 01:14:33,511 --> 01:14:37,182 to try to figure out how to bring some life to this... project. 1337 01:14:38,433 --> 01:14:43,730 And, um, we did our best, but I never... 1338 01:14:44,022 --> 01:14:48,735 The pendulum swung completely when that first movie came along 1339 01:14:49,027 --> 01:14:52,572 from being an actor and character-oriented "Star Trek" 1340 01:14:52,864 --> 01:14:54,657 to an effects-oriented "Star Trek." 1341 01:14:54,949 --> 01:14:56,784 And the feeling was, "Oh, we didn't have the money before. 1342 01:14:57,076 --> 01:14:59,120 Now we've got the money, we've got to give them a big effects movie." 1343 01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:01,664 So it was all about the ship, the ship, and this effect, and that effect, 1344 01:15:01,956 --> 01:15:02,957 and we're going through this thing. 1345 01:15:06,753 --> 01:15:08,421 Now, we're going through that thing. 1346 01:15:10,215 --> 01:15:12,759 Nothing about the characters. 1347 01:15:13,051 --> 01:15:17,013 So it was frustrating, and depressing, and, uh, very painful. 1348 01:15:31,653 --> 01:15:32,654 Khan. 1349 01:15:33,780 --> 01:15:36,324 Khan! 1350 01:15:36,616 --> 01:15:41,079 In "Star Trek II," the lure that Harve Bennett gave him was, 1351 01:15:41,371 --> 01:15:44,415 "You're going to have the greatest death scene of all time." 1352 01:15:44,707 --> 01:15:46,167 Spock, no! 1353 01:15:54,759 --> 01:15:56,678 [Leonard Nimoy] I thought that was the final "Star Trek" movie, 1354 01:15:56,970 --> 01:15:58,638 and when they said to me, "How about a death scene?" 1355 01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:00,515 I thought, "Why not? If this is the end of 'Star Trek,' 1356 01:16:00,807 --> 01:16:02,600 "let's get out in a blaze of glory saving the Enterprise. 1357 01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:05,645 You know, be a hero and die." [laughing] 1358 01:16:09,816 --> 01:16:11,818 [struggling] Live long... 1359 01:16:12,735 --> 01:16:13,987 and prosper. 1360 01:16:32,714 --> 01:16:35,717 [Leonard Nimoy] Sooner than I realized, it was over. 1361 01:16:36,009 --> 01:16:37,552 No. 1362 01:16:37,844 --> 01:16:41,180 [Leonard Nimoy] I stripped off the ears, the makeup, the uniform, 1363 01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:43,558 and so Spock gradually disappeared, 1364 01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:46,811 leaving behind only Leonard Nimoy. 1365 01:16:48,813 --> 01:16:51,566 Never again the raised eyebrow. 1366 01:16:51,858 --> 01:16:55,737 Never again the delicious teasing of the irascible doctor 1367 01:16:56,029 --> 01:17:00,074 or the offering of logic to my impetuous friend and captain. 1368 01:17:00,366 --> 01:17:03,411 Never again the mind meld, the neck pinch, 1369 01:17:03,703 --> 01:17:05,788 or the Vulcan salute and blessing, 1370 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,041 live long and prosper. 1371 01:17:08,333 --> 01:17:13,212 I asked myself, "What have I done?" 1372 01:17:13,504 --> 01:17:15,840 Well, of course, they put in a little footage at the end of the movie 1373 01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:19,177 that suggested that this might not be the end of Spock. 1374 01:17:19,469 --> 01:17:22,680 I'm sorry, Doctor. I have no time to discuss this logically. 1375 01:17:27,185 --> 01:17:28,519 Remember. 1376 01:17:28,811 --> 01:17:29,687 And they came to me, sure enough, 1377 01:17:29,979 --> 01:17:31,606 after the picture opened and did business, 1378 01:17:31,898 --> 01:17:34,025 and they called me in for a meeting. 1379 01:17:34,317 --> 01:17:35,902 They said, "We'd like to know if you'd like to be involved in another 'Star Trek' movie?" 1380 01:17:36,194 --> 01:17:37,654 And I said, "Yes, I'd like to direct it." 1381 01:17:37,945 --> 01:17:42,492 I remember distinctly one night I got a phone call from him. 1382 01:17:42,784 --> 01:17:45,078 And he said he'd been on the phone with Michael Eisner, 1383 01:17:45,370 --> 01:17:48,539 and that Michael Eisner was trying to talk him out of directing, 1384 01:17:48,831 --> 01:17:50,833 making his directing debut 1385 01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:54,629 directing himself in a feature film and so forth. 1386 01:17:54,921 --> 01:17:59,258 And he was asking me... He was soliciting my advice. 1387 01:17:59,550 --> 01:18:02,220 I said, "Well, it's really very simple. 1388 01:18:02,512 --> 01:18:07,767 Are you prepared to let this ship sail without you?" 1389 01:18:08,059 --> 01:18:09,602 And he said, "Oh, absolutely." 1390 01:18:09,894 --> 01:18:12,271 I said, "Then sit tight You're going to direct the movie." [laughing] 1391 01:18:12,563 --> 01:18:15,817 [Klingon] My Lord, the ship appears to be deserted. 1392 01:18:16,109 --> 01:18:18,444 How can that be? They're hiding. 1393 01:18:18,736 --> 01:18:22,281 Yes, sir, but the bridge seems to be run by a computer. 1394 01:18:22,573 --> 01:18:23,658 It is the only thing speaking. 1395 01:18:23,950 --> 01:18:25,284 Speaking? 1396 01:18:26,494 --> 01:18:27,829 Let me hear. 1397 01:18:28,121 --> 01:18:33,626 [Computer] Nine, eight, seven, six, five-- 1398 01:18:33,918 --> 01:18:35,420 Get out! 1399 01:18:35,712 --> 01:18:37,380 Get out of there! 1400 01:18:37,672 --> 01:18:39,674 [Leonard Nimoy] I got a call before the movie opened from Jeff Katzenberg, 1401 01:18:39,966 --> 01:18:42,343 who was head of production at Paramount at the time, 1402 01:18:42,635 --> 01:18:44,220 and he said, "We want you to make another one." 1403 01:18:44,512 --> 01:18:47,098 And I said, "You know, this one that I just finished, 'Star Trek III'," 1404 01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:49,559 I said, "They had a pretty tight choke chain on me, 1405 01:18:49,851 --> 01:18:50,977 "controlling what I was doing, 1406 01:18:51,269 --> 01:18:52,687 "and making me answer for everything, 1407 01:18:52,979 --> 01:18:55,523 and explain everything that I was doing, and justify everything." 1408 01:18:55,815 --> 01:18:57,734 And he said-- I'll never forget. He was wonderful. 1409 01:18:58,025 --> 01:18:59,569 He said, "The training wheels are off. 1410 01:18:59,861 --> 01:19:02,905 We want you to make your 'Star Trek' movie." 1411 01:19:03,197 --> 01:19:05,783 [Gillian Taylor] Well, if it isn't Robin Hood and Friar Tuck. 1412 01:19:07,118 --> 01:19:08,661 Where are you fellas heading? 1413 01:19:10,037 --> 01:19:12,540 Back to San Francisco. 1414 01:19:12,832 --> 01:19:16,002 Came all of the way down here just to jump in and swim with the kiddies, huh? 1415 01:19:17,420 --> 01:19:19,756 Very little point in my trying to explain. 1416 01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:22,550 Well, yeah, I'll buy that. What about him? 1417 01:19:22,842 --> 01:19:24,719 Him? He's harmless. 1418 01:19:25,011 --> 01:19:28,181 Back in the '60s, he was part of the free speech movement at Berkeley. 1419 01:19:29,807 --> 01:19:32,059 I think he did a little too much LDS. 1420 01:19:32,351 --> 01:19:35,104 - LDS? - Mm-hmm. 1421 01:19:35,396 --> 01:19:36,898 Come on. Why don't you let me give you a lift? 1422 01:19:37,190 --> 01:19:40,401 We had our first read-through at your house on Kashmir. 1423 01:19:40,693 --> 01:19:44,447 And there was-- He had the whales' song playing for us. 1424 01:19:44,739 --> 01:19:47,658 And I knew then how much this project meant to him 1425 01:19:47,950 --> 01:19:49,202 on a personal level. 1426 01:19:49,494 --> 01:19:51,245 He was trying to get us to get it, 1427 01:19:51,537 --> 01:19:54,415 which to me, transcends doing another "Star Trek" film. 1428 01:19:54,707 --> 01:19:58,252 Although, in fact, it actually is what "Star Trek" has always been about, 1429 01:19:58,544 --> 01:20:01,506 which is meaningful issues about how to live. 1430 01:20:01,798 --> 01:20:03,174 [punk rock music playing] 1431 01:20:03,466 --> 01:20:05,676 ♪ Just where is our future? The things we've done and said ♪ 1432 01:20:05,968 --> 01:20:08,721 ♪ Let's just push the button We'd be better off dead ♪ 1433 01:20:09,013 --> 01:20:10,598 ♪ 'Cause I hate you ♪ 1434 01:20:10,890 --> 01:20:12,058 Excuse me. 1435 01:20:12,350 --> 01:20:14,602 ♪ And I berate you ♪ 1436 01:20:14,894 --> 01:20:16,187 Excuse me. 1437 01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,689 Would you mind stopping that noise? 1438 01:20:19,816 --> 01:20:22,985 [music playing louder] 1439 01:20:23,277 --> 01:20:25,154 ♪ The only choice we're given is how many megatons ♪ 1440 01:20:25,446 --> 01:20:26,572 Excuse me. 1441 01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:29,033 Would you mind stopping that damn noise? 1442 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:31,452 ♪ And I say screw you ♪ 1443 01:20:31,744 --> 01:20:35,414 ♪ And I hope you're blue too ♪ 1444 01:20:38,793 --> 01:20:42,755 - [music stops] - [applauding] 1445 01:20:43,047 --> 01:20:46,300 "Star Trek IV" was one of the highlights of Dad's career, 1446 01:20:46,592 --> 01:20:48,386 really part of the pinnacle of his career, 1447 01:20:48,678 --> 01:20:51,639 because immediately after that came "Three Men and a Baby." 1448 01:20:51,931 --> 01:20:53,391 [Leonard Nimoy] The making of "Three Men and a Baby" 1449 01:20:53,683 --> 01:20:56,686 was a magical time where everything came together beautifully. 1450 01:20:56,978 --> 01:20:59,355 I felt enormously fortunate to be involved with the project. 1451 01:20:59,647 --> 01:21:00,606 Nice job, Pete. 1452 01:21:00,898 --> 01:21:03,359 You know, the "LA Times" came out with an article 1453 01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:05,319 when that movie came out, and it was a hit 1454 01:21:05,611 --> 01:21:08,030 the winter season, the holiday season of '87. 1455 01:21:08,322 --> 01:21:12,159 "LA Times" talked about the fact that the hit from the previous holiday season 1456 01:21:12,451 --> 01:21:15,413 was a feature film entitled "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home," 1457 01:21:15,705 --> 01:21:18,749 and that both of those films happened to be directed by the same guy. 1458 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:21,085 Then came "The Good Mother", 1459 01:21:21,377 --> 01:21:23,838 and my relationship with my father hit an all-time low. 1460 01:21:24,130 --> 01:21:25,673 And you've left her alone with him? 1461 01:21:25,965 --> 01:21:28,009 Well, of course I have. She likes him. They have fun together, Brian. 1462 01:21:28,301 --> 01:21:29,969 Well, ask him about the fun, Anna. 1463 01:21:30,261 --> 01:21:31,762 Well, what are you suggesting, Brian, that he did something wrong with Molly? 1464 01:21:32,054 --> 01:21:33,139 - He did, Anna. - Well, he didn't. 1465 01:21:33,431 --> 01:21:35,266 She told me. She's told the shrink. 1466 01:21:35,558 --> 01:21:36,976 - He did it, Anna! - No, Brian, he didn't do it! 1467 01:21:37,268 --> 01:21:38,769 You ask him! And you let him! 1468 01:21:39,061 --> 01:21:41,188 [Leonard Nimoy] By the time filming of "The Good Mother" wrapped, 1469 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:44,400 I felt the same way I had at the end of shooting "Three Men and a Baby." 1470 01:21:44,692 --> 01:21:48,654 I thought, "Boy, this could be even more of a rocket ride than 'Three Men.'" 1471 01:21:48,946 --> 01:21:52,491 And it was a rocket ride, all right... straight down. 1472 01:21:52,783 --> 01:21:54,285 Box office was disappointing, 1473 01:21:54,577 --> 01:21:58,205 and the film soon disappeared from the theaters. 1474 01:21:58,497 --> 01:22:02,335 I started drinking regularly, ritually, 1475 01:22:02,627 --> 01:22:05,630 during probably the second year or third year of our series. 1476 01:22:05,922 --> 01:22:09,216 The ritual became so ingrained and so important to me, 1477 01:22:09,508 --> 01:22:13,512 because I looked forward to that release at the end of the pressure of the day 1478 01:22:13,804 --> 01:22:17,934 with the dialogue, and the pace, and get 15 pages or 12 pages done today, 1479 01:22:18,225 --> 01:22:19,644 and all of that sort of thing. 1480 01:22:19,936 --> 01:22:22,313 And the minute we finished the last shot, I would have a drink. 1481 01:22:22,605 --> 01:22:24,231 And then it became a series of drinks. 1482 01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:26,734 And little by little, before I knew it, I was drinking more and more 1483 01:22:27,026 --> 01:22:28,778 because my addictive personality was taking over. 1484 01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:32,657 It was the martinis, you know, getting a drink when he'd come home, 1485 01:22:32,949 --> 01:22:34,533 having a couple drinks. 1486 01:22:34,825 --> 01:22:38,746 And, uh... you know, while it made him more relaxed, 1487 01:22:39,038 --> 01:22:41,374 he also shut down. 1488 01:22:41,666 --> 01:22:45,920 The habit grew to the power that it did in my later years 1489 01:22:46,212 --> 01:22:49,423 because I didn't have that thought, "I'm young. I still have a distance to go." 1490 01:22:49,715 --> 01:22:53,219 Which is a devilish part of the disease. 1491 01:22:53,511 --> 01:22:57,056 The 1980's were a very difficult time for my dad. 1492 01:22:57,348 --> 01:23:00,518 His parents had recently died, my grandparents, 1493 01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:02,979 within six months of each other. 1494 01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:04,730 My dad was going through a very complicated 1495 01:23:05,022 --> 01:23:06,565 and difficult divorce from my mother. 1496 01:23:06,857 --> 01:23:08,693 They had been married for 32 years. 1497 01:23:08,985 --> 01:23:10,319 It was also about this time 1498 01:23:10,611 --> 01:23:12,780 that there was a lot of head-banging between the two of us. 1499 01:23:13,072 --> 01:23:15,324 There were a lot of old issues that were coming up, 1500 01:23:15,616 --> 01:23:18,744 and there were a number of fights between us. 1501 01:23:19,036 --> 01:23:22,373 He was also drinking. A lot of this was fueled by alcohol. 1502 01:23:22,665 --> 01:23:24,959 And quite frankly, I was still getting high at the time, 1503 01:23:25,251 --> 01:23:28,212 and that was certainly not helping matters between us. 1504 01:23:30,131 --> 01:23:32,258 [Adam Nimoy] "There's one major area that I should touch on 1505 01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:34,260 "before coming to a conclusion, 1506 01:23:34,552 --> 01:23:36,470 "competition with my father. 1507 01:23:36,762 --> 01:23:40,182 "This was easy for me in strangely painful way. 1508 01:23:40,474 --> 01:23:43,936 "My father never earned more than a $150 a week. 1509 01:23:44,228 --> 01:23:47,732 "I realize that competition with me is very tough. 1510 01:23:48,024 --> 01:23:49,859 "I am very loud and verbal. 1511 01:23:50,151 --> 01:23:54,238 "Also I have been very lucky, made good money, and I'm famous. 1512 01:23:55,573 --> 01:23:56,907 "That's a lot tougher to deal with 1513 01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:00,286 "than me competing against 150-dollar a week barber." 1514 01:24:02,538 --> 01:24:06,042 A lot of the problems that I had with my dad were not that dissimilar 1515 01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:08,627 from problems that other fathers and sons experience. 1516 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,923 The difference is that my dad was adored 1517 01:24:13,215 --> 01:24:15,926 by millions of fans all over the world. 1518 01:24:16,218 --> 01:24:21,390 And oftentimes, I felt like I was competing with them for his love and attention. 1519 01:24:21,682 --> 01:24:26,479 And sometimes, I honestly felt like I was losing the battle. 1520 01:24:26,771 --> 01:24:30,733 After we would have one of these incredible knock-down, drag-out fights, 1521 01:24:31,025 --> 01:24:36,655 I would go out into the world and be confronted by images of Spock everywhere. 1522 01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:38,282 ["What's On Your Mind" playing] 1523 01:24:38,574 --> 01:24:41,202 ♪ I want to know what you're feeling ♪ 1524 01:24:41,494 --> 01:24:44,789 ♪ Tell me what's on your mind ♪ 1525 01:24:52,922 --> 01:24:53,798 Pure energy. 1526 01:24:56,884 --> 01:24:58,427 Pure energy. 1527 01:25:05,017 --> 01:25:08,646 In 1989, Dad and Susan got married, 1528 01:25:08,938 --> 01:25:11,148 and his domestic life started to get much better. 1529 01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,818 She was a real stabilizing force for him. 1530 01:25:14,110 --> 01:25:17,071 And he was very happy with her, and they were very devoted to each other. 1531 01:25:17,363 --> 01:25:20,741 It was at this period of time, he told me later on, 1532 01:25:21,033 --> 01:25:23,953 that he was really happy with his life, 1533 01:25:24,245 --> 01:25:28,165 and yet didn't really understand why he was still drinking. 1534 01:25:28,457 --> 01:25:32,461 And it was at that point that he started to really, seriously look 1535 01:25:32,753 --> 01:25:34,922 at what was happening with his life. 1536 01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:38,592 And he made his decision to go into his own recovery. 1537 01:26:06,745 --> 01:26:09,915 My first images were photographed with this camera 1538 01:26:10,207 --> 01:26:11,584 and enlarged with this camera 1539 01:26:11,876 --> 01:26:14,670 and with about 20 cents worth of Kodak supplies. 1540 01:26:14,962 --> 01:26:19,049 And I just became fascinated with the ability 1541 01:26:19,341 --> 01:26:21,635 to create an image, something that you could hold, 1542 01:26:21,927 --> 01:26:24,221 an object you could hold in your hand, and there it is. 1543 01:26:24,513 --> 01:26:25,514 Something I shot this morning, 1544 01:26:25,806 --> 01:26:27,266 and tonight, I have the picture in my hand. 1545 01:26:27,558 --> 01:26:30,144 I could hang it on my wall, or give it to my family, or whatever. 1546 01:26:30,436 --> 01:26:31,187 That was the beginning. 1547 01:26:56,337 --> 01:26:59,173 [Adam Nimoy] Although Dad started taking pictures at an early age, 1548 01:26:59,465 --> 01:27:02,176 he continued this hobby throughout his life. 1549 01:27:02,468 --> 01:27:04,678 He would often take portraits of me and Julie, 1550 01:27:04,970 --> 01:27:08,182 and some of those ended up in the poetry books he published. 1551 01:27:30,996 --> 01:27:32,206 [grunting] 1552 01:27:35,125 --> 01:27:35,876 [screaming] 1553 01:27:52,309 --> 01:27:53,894 James T. Kirk. 1554 01:27:54,186 --> 01:27:56,522 [Leonard Nimoy] Along came J.J. Abrams 1555 01:27:56,814 --> 01:27:58,565 who found a way to crack it open 1556 01:27:58,857 --> 01:28:00,943 to an entirely new and different audience. 1557 01:28:06,782 --> 01:28:09,785 Who the hell am I to tell Leonard Nimoy what Spock should do? 1558 01:28:10,077 --> 01:28:12,162 But it's my job, so I'm doing the best I can. 1559 01:28:12,454 --> 01:28:14,415 But I was amazed at how open he was. 1560 01:28:14,707 --> 01:28:18,627 Leonard was okay with the idea of this new incarnation of "Star Trek." 1561 01:28:18,919 --> 01:28:24,466 It set a tone on the set even beyond the days that Leonard was working. 1562 01:28:24,758 --> 01:28:27,136 [Leonard Nimoy] You didn't have to know all about "Star Trek." 1563 01:28:27,428 --> 01:28:28,846 You could come and enjoy this movie 1564 01:28:29,138 --> 01:28:31,307 as a person who had never seen anything of "Star Trek" before. 1565 01:28:31,598 --> 01:28:32,850 - Fascinating. - What? 1566 01:28:33,142 --> 01:28:34,351 Okay, I'm sure you're just doing your job, 1567 01:28:34,643 --> 01:28:36,270 but could you not come a wee bit sooner? 1568 01:28:36,562 --> 01:28:39,106 Six months I've been here living off Star Fleet protein nibs 1569 01:28:39,398 --> 01:28:40,941 and the promise of a good meal. 1570 01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:42,818 Myself, Leonard, and Chris shared a trailer 1571 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:46,155 when we were shooting the stuff when they discover Scotty on the planet. 1572 01:28:46,447 --> 01:28:48,866 And it was quite far from the circus, from the unit base, 1573 01:28:49,158 --> 01:28:52,369 so we had a trailer that we just sat in, and we shared. 1574 01:28:52,661 --> 01:28:53,871 And we were shooting really late at night. 1575 01:28:54,163 --> 01:28:55,914 It was, like, you know, 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. 1576 01:28:56,206 --> 01:28:58,083 and Chris, Leonard, and I were just sat in this-- 1577 01:28:58,375 --> 01:29:01,086 And Leonard was in his full Spock regalia, ears. 1578 01:29:01,378 --> 01:29:03,505 We had the big sort of like winter coat on and stuff, 1579 01:29:03,797 --> 01:29:06,508 and he sat upright, and he went to sleep. 1580 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,096 And he, uh, was just sat there just quietly snoring. 1581 01:29:11,388 --> 01:29:14,224 And Chris and I were just looking at each other like, 1582 01:29:14,516 --> 01:29:16,602 [whispering] "That's Spock, and he snores." 1583 01:29:16,894 --> 01:29:17,936 [laughing] 1584 01:29:18,228 --> 01:29:19,772 We were shooting a scene, and Leonard was walking, 1585 01:29:20,064 --> 01:29:26,695 and he fell... and he landed, and he cut and broke his nose. 1586 01:29:26,987 --> 01:29:28,489 Um... 1587 01:29:28,781 --> 01:29:32,785 So the feeling that, you know, you have 1588 01:29:33,077 --> 01:29:37,164 when someone that you care about as much as I did, of course, gets hurt, 1589 01:29:37,456 --> 01:29:39,166 it's a horrible feeling. 1590 01:29:39,458 --> 01:29:41,543 When you've wounded Spock, uh... 1591 01:29:41,835 --> 01:29:44,338 you just wanna... you know, kill yourself. 1592 01:29:44,630 --> 01:29:46,632 It's just... It was... It was horrible. 1593 01:29:46,924 --> 01:29:49,635 And we're trying to figure out what we're gonna do for the rest of the day, 1594 01:29:49,927 --> 01:29:52,471 and I hear, like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, we're going to keep going." 1595 01:29:52,763 --> 01:29:53,847 And it was Leonard who was like, 1596 01:29:54,139 --> 01:29:55,766 "We're just gonna keep shooting." 1597 01:29:56,058 --> 01:30:00,229 And I'm thinking, "Is he out of his fucking mind? He just broke his nose." 1598 01:30:00,521 --> 01:30:02,147 And Leonard was like, "Let's keep going." 1599 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,025 And we finished, and no one ever heard this story publicly 1600 01:30:05,317 --> 01:30:07,152 until you and I had this conversation. 1601 01:30:11,156 --> 01:30:12,825 Speak your mind, Spock. 1602 01:30:15,911 --> 01:30:17,704 That would be unwise. 1603 01:30:17,996 --> 01:30:21,125 Mine is a very different Spock than your dad's. 1604 01:30:21,417 --> 01:30:26,004 I was really fortunate to be able to explore even more than your dad, 1605 01:30:26,296 --> 01:30:28,382 because as entertainment evolved, 1606 01:30:28,674 --> 01:30:30,592 as narration evolved, as story-telling evolved 1607 01:30:30,884 --> 01:30:32,177 over the intervening decades 1608 01:30:32,469 --> 01:30:35,639 between when he created the role and when I assumed it, 1609 01:30:35,931 --> 01:30:39,685 I think that it opened up a little bit more space 1610 01:30:39,977 --> 01:30:42,521 for us to get in and play with that. 1611 01:30:45,941 --> 01:30:47,943 Mr. Spock. 1612 01:30:48,235 --> 01:30:52,406 Sharing that with him, and discussing it, and exploring it 1613 01:30:52,698 --> 01:30:55,576 through the context of our personal relationship, 1614 01:30:55,868 --> 01:30:58,871 that was probably one of the most creatively satisfying aspects 1615 01:30:59,163 --> 01:31:02,875 of assuming a role that had already been established so firmly 1616 01:31:03,167 --> 01:31:04,877 and created so boldly. 1617 01:31:05,169 --> 01:31:06,545 No pun intended. 1618 01:31:06,837 --> 01:31:11,717 Should I choose to complete the Vulcan discipline of Kolinahr 1619 01:31:12,009 --> 01:31:14,094 and purge all emotion... 1620 01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:19,349 I trust you will not feel it reflects judgment upon you. 1621 01:31:21,977 --> 01:31:25,772 Oh, Spock... 1622 01:31:26,064 --> 01:31:29,401 as always, whatever you choose to be... 1623 01:31:30,611 --> 01:31:33,113 you will have a proud mother. 1624 01:31:33,405 --> 01:31:37,201 Every time he goes into a negative place, 1625 01:31:37,493 --> 01:31:39,411 he starts being a little bit of a pessimist, 1626 01:31:39,703 --> 01:31:45,542 um, he allows Uhura and Kirk to snap him out of it. 1627 01:31:45,834 --> 01:31:47,669 And I really like that. 1628 01:31:47,961 --> 01:31:51,632 He's just... He's a man to me. Like, Spock is really a man. 1629 01:31:51,924 --> 01:31:53,634 Even though he's half alien, it's like... 1630 01:31:53,926 --> 01:31:56,929 He could have been... I don't know, half anything, 1631 01:31:57,221 --> 01:32:01,099 but he's still very much... natural. 1632 01:32:07,564 --> 01:32:10,317 What do you need? Tell me. 1633 01:32:10,609 --> 01:32:12,194 Tell me. 1634 01:32:12,486 --> 01:32:15,155 I thought that was a perfect example 1635 01:32:15,447 --> 01:32:17,449 of the evolution of the character, 1636 01:32:17,741 --> 01:32:19,910 of painting him in a different light 1637 01:32:20,202 --> 01:32:24,540 and seeing that there is this capacity for feeling, 1638 01:32:24,831 --> 01:32:27,417 for emotion, for intimacy, for connection. 1639 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,127 It's still regulated. 1640 01:32:29,419 --> 01:32:32,339 It's still within the boundaries or the parameters 1641 01:32:32,631 --> 01:32:34,383 of what it means to be Vulcan. 1642 01:32:38,804 --> 01:32:40,222 Father. 1643 01:32:48,689 --> 01:32:50,816 I am not our father. 1644 01:32:58,115 --> 01:33:00,576 There are so few Vulcans left, 1645 01:33:00,867 --> 01:33:03,161 we cannot afford to ignore each other. 1646 01:33:03,453 --> 01:33:06,999 Spock, in this case, do yourself a favor. 1647 01:33:08,584 --> 01:33:12,087 Put aside logic. Do what feels right. 1648 01:33:17,843 --> 01:33:21,054 Since my customary farewell would appear oddly self-serving, 1649 01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:25,058 I shall simply say... good luck. 1650 01:33:27,978 --> 01:33:29,062 [Adam Nimoy] Dad was really happy 1651 01:33:29,354 --> 01:33:31,273 to be in the new incarnation of "Star Trek." 1652 01:33:31,565 --> 01:33:34,026 It was a high point for him. 1653 01:33:34,318 --> 01:33:36,987 But much like Spock's problems with his father, 1654 01:33:37,279 --> 01:33:39,906 my relationship with my father was still very troubled. 1655 01:33:40,198 --> 01:33:42,409 My first officer, Commander Spock. 1656 01:33:42,701 --> 01:33:44,119 Vulcan honors us with your presence. 1657 01:33:44,411 --> 01:33:45,871 We come to serve. 1658 01:33:49,124 --> 01:33:50,834 Your service honors us, Captain. 1659 01:33:51,126 --> 01:33:52,336 Thank you. 1660 01:33:55,631 --> 01:33:59,760 Around 2006, we were just about completely estranged from one another. 1661 01:34:00,052 --> 01:34:02,512 Old issues were flaring up. 1662 01:34:02,804 --> 01:34:05,140 And, um, I was at a low point in my life. 1663 01:34:05,432 --> 01:34:07,184 I had just ended an 18-year marriage, 1664 01:34:07,476 --> 01:34:11,563 and I had decided to go into my own 12-step recovery. 1665 01:34:11,855 --> 01:34:14,232 And it was a real difficult time for the two of us. 1666 01:34:14,524 --> 01:34:15,942 And basically, for three or four years, 1667 01:34:16,234 --> 01:34:18,070 we had very, very little communication. 1668 01:34:18,362 --> 01:34:22,783 By around 2008, we started to talk again, and reconnect again, 1669 01:34:23,075 --> 01:34:26,870 and really came back together in our relationship with each other. 1670 01:34:30,457 --> 01:34:34,670 I had met Martha in a doctor's office, and she was... 1671 01:34:34,961 --> 01:34:36,088 Uh, she was my age, 1672 01:34:36,380 --> 01:34:41,468 and she was very sweet, fun, attractive woman, 1673 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,679 and I started dating her regularly. 1674 01:34:43,970 --> 01:34:46,098 And I mean, I was so much happier having Martha 1675 01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:48,433 that I married her. 1676 01:34:51,228 --> 01:34:53,355 Four and a half months after we were married, 1677 01:34:53,647 --> 01:34:56,274 Martha was diagnosed with terminal cancer. 1678 01:35:08,370 --> 01:35:09,746 The weird thing was for me, 1679 01:35:10,038 --> 01:35:12,374 and I was really kind of conscious of it now in retrospect, 1680 01:35:12,666 --> 01:35:17,713 was that in 2004, when I left my 18-year marriage, 1681 01:35:18,004 --> 01:35:20,298 and moved out of my house, and left my kids behind for one. 1682 01:35:20,590 --> 01:35:22,384 I mean, it was a real low point in my life. 1683 01:35:22,676 --> 01:35:25,887 I didn't even call my dad. He wasn't even on the list, because of our period of, 1684 01:35:26,179 --> 01:35:28,432 you know, beginning of the estrangement period. 1685 01:35:28,724 --> 01:35:32,519 But when I was able to pull myself back together, 1686 01:35:32,811 --> 01:35:34,563 after I got that phone call from the doctor, 1687 01:35:34,855 --> 01:35:37,023 the first phone call I made... 1688 01:35:37,315 --> 01:35:38,692 Was to your dad. 1689 01:35:41,486 --> 01:35:44,156 I just... It still. It just overwhelms me now 1690 01:35:44,448 --> 01:35:47,284 that we could get to that point where he could be my go-to guy. 1691 01:35:47,576 --> 01:35:48,618 Yeah. 1692 01:35:48,910 --> 01:35:50,704 And in the next 18 months of my life with Martha, 1693 01:35:50,996 --> 01:35:55,417 which were, you know, probably the most challenging possibly in my entire life, 1694 01:35:55,709 --> 01:35:58,879 my dad and Susan were there every step of the way 1695 01:35:59,171 --> 01:36:01,423 to support me and keep me going. 1696 01:36:04,092 --> 01:36:08,680 And after that, my dad and I never again... looked back 1697 01:36:08,972 --> 01:36:12,225 at the wreckage from our past, ever. 1698 01:36:17,063 --> 01:36:20,525 "So here we are. You're a man, an individual, 1699 01:36:20,817 --> 01:36:24,404 "very bright, talented, goal-oriented, sensitive, 1700 01:36:24,696 --> 01:36:27,532 "and a lot of other good things. 1701 01:36:27,824 --> 01:36:31,578 "Above all, I want you to know that you are priceless to me. 1702 01:36:31,870 --> 01:36:35,207 I'm proud of you, and I deeply love you. Your father." 1703 01:36:46,635 --> 01:36:49,513 My life has become much, much more about family. 1704 01:36:49,805 --> 01:36:52,015 I used to-- The way I describe it now was 1705 01:36:52,307 --> 01:36:55,936 I used to major in career and minor in family. 1706 01:36:56,228 --> 01:36:57,479 And now, I've turned it around. 1707 01:36:57,771 --> 01:37:00,106 I'm much more majoring in family and minoring in career. 1708 01:37:00,398 --> 01:37:03,151 I do an occasional pop-up thing here and there for friends, 1709 01:37:03,443 --> 01:37:04,903 but mostly, I'm dealing with my family. 1710 01:37:05,195 --> 01:37:08,490 [Julie Nimoy] With dad marrying our step-mom, Susan, 1711 01:37:08,782 --> 01:37:11,576 she and Aaron became a part of our family. 1712 01:37:11,868 --> 01:37:15,288 She was great in the fact that she showed Dad 1713 01:37:15,580 --> 01:37:18,124 that being with your children and your grandchildren, 1714 01:37:18,416 --> 01:37:21,044 it's very important. 1715 01:37:21,336 --> 01:37:23,797 You need to be a part of their life. 1716 01:37:24,089 --> 01:37:26,925 And let's bring everybody together. 1717 01:37:27,217 --> 01:37:29,469 Let's... Let's have a big family unit, 1718 01:37:29,761 --> 01:37:31,263 and we have a big family. 1719 01:37:32,889 --> 01:37:34,391 In the last years of his life were the times that 1720 01:37:34,683 --> 01:37:35,892 the family got together at the house 1721 01:37:36,184 --> 01:37:40,355 for any variety of occasions from birthdays to holidays. 1722 01:37:40,647 --> 01:37:42,315 Leonard was a very even-keeled guy. 1723 01:37:42,607 --> 01:37:44,359 He didn't always show a lot of emotion 1724 01:37:44,651 --> 01:37:49,739 but I'd say those times at which he would toast the family at those gatherings 1725 01:37:50,031 --> 01:37:53,827 were the times I maybe saw him express the most emotion. 1726 01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:56,121 He was so grateful to have everybody there. 1727 01:37:56,413 --> 01:37:58,623 He was grateful to feel the love from everybody that was there. 1728 01:37:58,915 --> 01:38:02,961 And he was grateful to be able to love the family the way that he did 1729 01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:04,963 and provide for the family the way that he could. 1730 01:38:34,326 --> 01:38:37,787 The day Leonard died, I, uh... 1731 01:38:38,079 --> 01:38:39,748 He was in a coma, 1732 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,251 and I, uh, leaned over and said to him... 1733 01:38:43,543 --> 01:38:44,377 [clearing throat] 1734 01:38:45,670 --> 01:38:46,880 [crying] 1735 01:38:51,509 --> 01:38:53,970 "You made the world stand up and listen." 1736 01:38:55,221 --> 01:38:57,849 And I'd swear he nodded his head. 1737 01:41:39,260 --> 01:41:42,138 What I admired about Leonard 1738 01:41:42,430 --> 01:41:46,726 was his willingness to love his family, 1739 01:41:47,018 --> 01:41:50,688 and because I was on the periphery of it, I got that love. 1740 01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:53,817 It made him a wonderful actor in the work we did. 1741 01:41:54,109 --> 01:41:56,194 And I think it made him a mensch, 1742 01:41:56,486 --> 01:41:58,071 probably a word you're going to hear a lot. 1743 01:41:58,363 --> 01:41:59,656 Mensch. 1744 01:41:59,948 --> 01:42:05,286 A mensch is someone who's responsible, and disciplined, 1745 01:42:05,578 --> 01:42:06,621 and you can count on. 1746 01:42:06,913 --> 01:42:09,290 He was just this stable force in my life, 1747 01:42:09,582 --> 01:42:11,459 and I knew I could always count on him. 1748 01:42:11,751 --> 01:42:14,003 He was the mensch of mensches. 1749 01:42:14,295 --> 01:42:18,758 He was loved and adored by, I think, everybody on the set. 1750 01:42:19,050 --> 01:42:24,389 To create a character who leaves a mark on the society, 1751 01:42:24,681 --> 01:42:27,809 that strikes a chord that resonates, 1752 01:42:28,101 --> 01:42:29,769 Leonard Nimoy did that. 1753 01:42:30,061 --> 01:42:32,981 If there was a word you would use to sum up or describe 1754 01:42:33,273 --> 01:42:36,943 either my dad as an individual or as Spock, the character, 1755 01:42:37,235 --> 01:42:39,404 what would that be for you? 1756 01:42:39,696 --> 01:42:41,573 The first word that springs to mind for both of them actually 1757 01:42:41,865 --> 01:42:43,700 is, I would say, is noble. 1758 01:42:43,992 --> 01:42:45,243 There was something about... 1759 01:42:45,535 --> 01:42:48,538 There's definitely something about Spock which is very noble. 1760 01:42:48,830 --> 01:42:52,292 He's obviously a man of massive integrity and conviction. 1761 01:42:52,584 --> 01:42:56,754 If I had to pick one word, it would be dignity. 1762 01:42:57,046 --> 01:42:58,006 Artist. 1763 01:42:58,298 --> 01:42:58,923 Integrity. 1764 01:42:59,215 --> 01:43:00,258 Human. 1765 01:43:00,550 --> 01:43:03,469 He was a self-made renaissance man, 1766 01:43:03,761 --> 01:43:08,057 but he had a ubiquitous curiosity 1767 01:43:08,349 --> 01:43:10,643 about everything going on in the world, 1768 01:43:10,935 --> 01:43:13,354 whether it was art, photography, politics. 1769 01:43:13,646 --> 01:43:14,606 Logical. 1770 01:43:14,898 --> 01:43:16,191 Humble. 1771 01:43:16,482 --> 01:43:17,358 Hope. 1772 01:43:17,650 --> 01:43:20,195 Cool. Spock was cool. 1773 01:43:20,486 --> 01:43:25,116 I think a little bit of Spock needs to be behind every important decision 1774 01:43:25,408 --> 01:43:29,287 we make in our lives, about ourselves, or with regard to others. 1775 01:43:29,579 --> 01:43:31,831 The first word that does come to mind is loving. 1776 01:43:32,123 --> 01:43:33,374 Love. 1777 01:43:33,666 --> 01:43:37,128 If it's free association, then it's definitely just love. 1778 01:43:39,130 --> 01:43:40,340 What's yours? 1779 01:43:41,966 --> 01:43:44,802 ["Star Trek The Original Series" theme song playing] 1780 01:44:44,696 --> 01:44:47,031 ["Starman" playing] 1781 01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:56,040 [singer] All right. I got it. 1782 01:44:56,332 --> 01:45:01,087 ♪ Didn't know what time it was And the lights were low ♪ 1783 01:45:01,379 --> 01:45:06,009 ♪ I leaned back on my radio ♪ 1784 01:45:06,301 --> 01:45:12,932 ♪ Some cat was laying down some rock 'n' roll "Lot of soul," he said ♪ 1785 01:45:13,224 --> 01:45:17,645 ♪ Then the loud sound did seem to fade ♪ 1786 01:45:17,937 --> 01:45:22,483 ♪ Came back like a slow voice on a wave of phase ♪ 1787 01:45:22,775 --> 01:45:26,904 ♪ That weren't no DJ That was hazy cosmic jive ♪ 1788 01:45:30,992 --> 01:45:36,039 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1789 01:45:36,331 --> 01:45:38,124 ♪ He'd like to come and meet us ♪ 1790 01:45:38,416 --> 01:45:40,418 ♪ But he thinks he'd blow our minds ♪ 1791 01:45:40,710 --> 01:45:45,381 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1792 01:45:45,673 --> 01:45:47,258 ♪ He's told us not to blow it ♪ 1793 01:45:47,550 --> 01:45:49,469 ♪ 'Cause he knows it's all worthwhile ♪ 1794 01:45:49,761 --> 01:45:53,139 ♪ He told me, "Let the children lose it ♪ 1795 01:45:53,431 --> 01:45:58,186 ♪ Let the children use it Let all the children boogie" ♪ 1796 01:46:14,202 --> 01:46:18,831 ♪ I had to phone someone so I picked on you ♪ 1797 01:46:19,123 --> 01:46:23,336 ♪ Hey, that's far out So you heard him too? ♪ 1798 01:46:23,628 --> 01:46:29,175 ♪ Switch on the TV We may pick him up on Channel Two ♪ 1799 01:46:30,676 --> 01:46:35,014 ♪ Look out your window I can see his light ♪ 1800 01:46:35,306 --> 01:46:39,936 ♪ If we can sparkle he may land tonight ♪ 1801 01:46:40,228 --> 01:46:45,066 ♪ Don't tell your papa or he'll get us locked up in fright ♪ 1802 01:46:48,486 --> 01:46:53,324 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1803 01:46:53,616 --> 01:46:55,576 ♪ He'd like to come and meet us ♪ 1804 01:46:55,868 --> 01:46:57,870 ♪ But he thinks he'd blow our minds ♪ 1805 01:46:58,162 --> 01:47:02,875 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1806 01:47:03,167 --> 01:47:04,961 ♪ He's told us not to blow it ♪ 1807 01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:06,963 ♪ 'Cause he knows it's all worthwhile ♪ 1808 01:47:07,255 --> 01:47:10,716 ♪ He told me, "Let the children lose it ♪ 1809 01:47:11,008 --> 01:47:15,471 ♪ Let the children use it Let all the children boogie" ♪ 1810 01:47:15,763 --> 01:47:19,225 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1811 01:47:19,517 --> 01:47:21,769 ♪ He'd like to come and meet us ♪ 1812 01:47:22,061 --> 01:47:23,688 ♪ But he thinks he'd blow our minds ♪ 1813 01:47:23,980 --> 01:47:28,943 ♪ There's a starman waiting in the sky ♪ 1814 01:47:29,235 --> 01:47:30,778 ♪ He's told us not to blow it ♪ 1815 01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:32,989 ♪ 'Cause he knows it's all worthwhile ♪ 1816 01:47:33,281 --> 01:47:36,701 ♪ He told me, "Let the children lose it ♪ 1817 01:47:36,993 --> 01:47:41,747 ♪ Let the children use it, let all the children boogie" ♪ 145224

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