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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,369 --> 00:01:00,540 El es, sin ninguna duda, 2 00:01:00,896 --> 00:01:03,995 uno de los mas grandes artistas contemporaneos vivos al dia de hoy. 3 00:01:04,545 --> 00:01:06,934 Y el da vida a la basura. 4 00:01:07,361 --> 00:01:10,460 Abusa de materiales extra�os. 5 00:01:10,657 --> 00:01:13,342 Y ha atraido grandes multitudes a sus exhibiciones. 6 00:01:13,730 --> 00:01:15,585 Vik Muniz, ven aca! 7 00:01:32,484 --> 00:01:35,269 Cuando digo que es uno de los mas grandes artistas vivos, 8 00:01:35,269 --> 00:01:36,292 No estoy exagerando. 9 00:01:36,292 --> 00:01:40,515 Yo realmente lo creo y todos estan de acuerdo. 10 00:01:40,805 --> 00:01:42,594 Simplemente no hay duda sobre eso. 11 00:01:42,758 --> 00:01:50,244 Podrias decirnos como empezaste a usar materiales recolectados de la basura? 12 00:02:41,132 --> 00:02:42,758 Una vez estaba manejando en Sao Paulo... 13 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:44,133 Vi una pelea. 14 00:02:44,652 --> 00:02:47,555 Pare el carro para detener la pelea. 15 00:02:47,629 --> 00:02:49,385 Cuando estoy regresando de vuelta a mi carro... 16 00:02:49,453 --> 00:02:52,715 Me dispara uno de los tipos porque penso que era uno de los que estaban peleando con el. 17 00:02:54,029 --> 00:02:55,523 Perdon pero tengo que hacer esto. 18 00:02:57,774 --> 00:02:59,534 Afortunadamente el era muy rico... 19 00:02:59,534 --> 00:03:00,909 y me dio algo de dinero. 20 00:03:00,975 --> 00:03:03,015 Y asi es como compre el boleto... 21 00:03:03,118 --> 00:03:05,028 Para venir a Estados Unidos en 1983... 22 00:03:05,103 --> 00:03:06,761 y asi es como ahora estoy hablando con ustedes. 23 00:03:07,023 --> 00:03:08,616 Porque me dispararon en la pierna. 24 00:03:10,031 --> 00:03:12,813 Oh Dios mio, esto es tan increible! 25 00:03:12,912 --> 00:03:14,155 Realmente me siento extra�o. 26 00:03:15,344 --> 00:03:16,838 Esto es muy muy extra�o. 27 00:03:18,021 --> 00:03:19,021 Yo solia empujar estos carritos de compras aqui. 28 00:03:19,121 --> 00:03:21,160 Ahora tienen esas cosas para las carritos. 29 00:03:21,329 --> 00:03:24,428 En mi tiempo, no tenian nada que les devuelva su carrito. 30 00:03:24,497 --> 00:03:26,319 Uno de mis trabajos fue limpiar... 31 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:29,192 los contenedores. 32 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:32,233 De los contenedores de carne. 33 00:03:32,434 --> 00:03:34,288 Podia pasar todo el dia... 34 00:03:34,675 --> 00:03:37,904 excavando la peor materia posible... 35 00:03:37,971 --> 00:03:40,426 materia organica dejada por el camion. 36 00:04:36,761 --> 00:04:38,938 Ni�os de azucar fue probablemente el trabajo mas importante... 37 00:04:38,938 --> 00:04:39,673 de mi carrera. 38 00:04:39,673 --> 00:04:42,543 Creo que es la primera vez que se�alo... 39 00:04:43,162 --> 00:04:45,370 el hecho de que la materia es algo que existe... 40 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:47,226 en el mundo con su propia importancia. 41 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:50,899 Estos son ni�os de la isla caribe�a San Cristobal. 42 00:04:51,099 --> 00:04:53,652 Ellos son hijos e hijos de los trabajadores de la plantaciones. 43 00:04:54,204 --> 00:04:58,514 Podria imaginar la progresion desde estos bellos e increibles ni�os... 44 00:04:58,588 --> 00:05:01,338 a un adulto, eso seria tan feliz... 45 00:05:01,404 --> 00:05:03,128 porque eso era el paraiso. 46 00:05:03,196 --> 00:05:08,532 Pero sus padres eran personas muy tristes, agotadas, aburridas... 47 00:05:08,606 --> 00:05:11,672 que trabajaban en turnos de 16 horas en los campos de azucar. 48 00:05:12,573 --> 00:05:18,558 Siempre pienso sobre lo que se estaba perdiendo en la transicion... 49 00:05:18,558 --> 00:05:20,763 de una ni�ez como esa a ser adultos muy tristes. 50 00:05:20,958 --> 00:05:21,941 Y era azucar. 51 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:24,344 La dulzura le fue arrebatada a esos ni�os. 52 00:05:24,415 --> 00:05:28,639 Cuando regrese de vuelta a Nueva York empece a dibujar sus rostros con azucar... 53 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,712 Y me di cuenta que podia hacer montones de eso. 54 00:05:30,783 --> 00:05:32,671 Era muy hermoso. 55 00:05:32,735 --> 00:05:37,919 Come estos con una camara. Gente del New York Times... 56 00:05:38,369 --> 00:05:40,157 escribio una rese�a sobre eso y luego, el Museo de Arte Moderno... 57 00:05:40,289 --> 00:05:41,850 me invito a ser parte de una nueva exposicion de fotografia. 58 00:05:42,241 --> 00:05:43,905 Eso cambio mi carrera completamente... 59 00:05:43,905 --> 00:05:45,880 el trabajo que hice con esos ni�os. 60 00:05:56,738 --> 00:05:59,586 En este momento, en este punto de mi carrera... 61 00:05:59,651 --> 00:06:01,757 estoy tratando de estar un poco distanciado... 62 00:06:02,723 --> 00:06:05,113 de la esfera de las bellas artes. 63 00:06:06,947 --> 00:06:08,606 Porque creo que es muy exclusivo... 64 00:06:08,676 --> 00:06:11,710 un lugar muy restrictivo para estar. 65 00:06:22,854 --> 00:06:27,270 Lo que realmente quiero hacer es ser capaz de cambiar... 66 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:28,448 las vidas de un grupo de personas... 67 00:06:30,023 --> 00:06:32,608 con los mismos materiales con los que trabajan todos los dias. 68 00:06:35,336 --> 00:06:36,872 Y no simplemente cualquier material. 69 00:06:36,872 --> 00:06:38,408 La idea que tengo para mis proximos trabajos... 70 00:06:38,408 --> 00:06:39,783 es trabajar con la basura. 71 00:06:40,232 --> 00:06:42,120 Cuando hablas sobre transformacion... 72 00:06:42,536 --> 00:06:44,576 this being the stuff of art... 73 00:06:44,712 --> 00:06:47,331 transformando materiales e ideas... 74 00:06:48,457 --> 00:06:50,473 No se. Este es el comienzo de una idea... 75 00:06:50,473 --> 00:06:51,815 Yo solo tengo el material. 76 00:06:53,289 --> 00:06:56,257 Y tengo que buscar una imagen. 77 00:06:56,554 --> 00:06:57,383 Hey Fabio. 78 00:06:59,850 --> 00:07:01,988 Tuviste alguna oportunidad para darle una mirada a lo de la basura? 79 00:07:03,050 --> 00:07:04,065 Si... 80 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:06,475 mira el link que te acabo de mandar. 81 00:07:06,475 --> 00:07:11,494 En You Tube hay un video que fue filmado en un lugar llamado Gramacho. 82 00:07:11,691 --> 00:07:14,474 Jardines Gramacho, es el mas grande vertedero en Rio. 83 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:17,795 Reciben la basura de toda el area de Rio. 84 00:07:17,868 --> 00:07:20,650 Cuales son los peligros de trabajar en un lugar asi? 85 00:07:21,549 --> 00:07:24,621 Primero que nada, el lugar esta rodeado de favelas... 86 00:07:24,621 --> 00:07:26,050 adue�adas por el trafico de drogas. 87 00:07:26,253 --> 00:07:29,549 Y creo que la estabilidad de las mismas personas... 88 00:07:29,614 --> 00:07:31,653 ellos estan totalmente excluidos de la sociedad. 89 00:07:31,822 --> 00:07:33,611 Algunos se quedan aqui toda la noche... 90 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:34,692 o toda la semana. 91 00:07:34,926 --> 00:07:35,941 Va a ser dificil. 92 00:07:36,911 --> 00:07:40,359 Crees que va a ser muy dificil? 93 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:50,225 No, porque sera mucho mas dificil si pensamos que no vamos... 94 00:07:50,225 --> 00:07:51,760 a cambiar la vida de esas personas. 95 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,411 Y creo que podemos. Entonces pienso que vale la pena intentarlo. 96 00:07:55,313 --> 00:07:59,339 Mi experiencia en mezclar arte... 97 00:08:00,786 --> 00:08:01,969 con proyectos sociales... 98 00:08:01,969 --> 00:08:05,712 es que esa es la principal idea... 99 00:08:05,778 --> 00:08:07,338 es sacar a las personas incluso asi sea por dos minutos... 100 00:08:07,442 --> 00:08:08,652 fuera de donde estan. 101 00:08:09,106 --> 00:08:11,091 Y mostrarles otro mundo... 102 00:08:11,091 --> 00:08:12,236 otro lugar. 103 00:08:12,722 --> 00:08:15,984 Incluso si es un lugar desde el cual ellos pueden mirar en donde estan... 104 00:08:16,404 --> 00:08:18,676 Sabes que eso cambia simplemente todo. 105 00:08:18,676 --> 00:08:22,196 Quiero que esta sea una experiencia de como el arte... 106 00:08:22,196 --> 00:08:23,919 puede cambiar a las personas... 107 00:08:23,988 --> 00:08:26,835 Pero tambien... puede cambiar a las personas? 108 00:08:27,636 --> 00:08:30,418 Se puede hacer? 109 00:08:30,933 --> 00:08:32,842 Y cuales seran los efectos de esto? 110 00:08:44,662 --> 00:08:49,616 Esto es en lo que voy a pasar los proximos dos a�os de mi vida. 111 00:08:54,904 --> 00:08:57,173 And your going to make drawings out of the garbage? 112 00:08:57,847 --> 00:09:00,182 Vas a contratar a la gente que vive alla? 113 00:09:00,248 --> 00:09:01,077 Y trabaja ahi? 114 00:09:02,905 --> 00:09:05,326 Como sera toda la parte sanitaria... 115 00:09:05,401 --> 00:09:06,645 si trabajas con ellos? 116 00:09:07,961 --> 00:09:10,295 No es precisamente seguro hacer lo que ellos hacen. 117 00:09:10,361 --> 00:09:12,794 Ellos no cuestionan eso porque ellos se nutren de ahi. 118 00:09:12,794 --> 00:09:13,777 Si, pero nosotros lo hacemos. 119 00:09:13,850 --> 00:09:17,497 Es dificil hacer esas aseveraciones mirando desde Google Earth. 120 00:09:17,497 --> 00:09:20,367 Tenemos que ir ahi y ver lo que realmente necesitan. 121 00:09:20,475 --> 00:09:22,646 Y vas a ir a crear todo? 122 00:09:22,715 --> 00:09:23,931 Eso quiero... 123 00:09:23,931 --> 00:09:26,615 la iconografia para crear desde mi interaccion con ellos. 124 00:09:26,683 --> 00:09:28,145 Ver lo que es importante para ellos. 125 00:09:29,179 --> 00:09:31,154 Que es lo que les gustaria ver en pantalla gigante? 126 00:09:31,228 --> 00:09:32,439 Que les gustaria mostrar? 127 00:09:32,605 --> 00:09:35,288 Tal vez solo terminen siendo retratos. 128 00:09:35,357 --> 00:09:39,961 Pero tu crees que las personas sean abiertas para trabajar asi? 129 00:09:40,093 --> 00:09:41,587 No tengo idea. 130 00:09:42,334 --> 00:09:43,708 Son las personas... 131 00:09:44,221 --> 00:09:48,500 mas rudas en las que puedas pensar, todos son adictos a drogas. 132 00:09:49,085 --> 00:09:50,133 Es como el fin del camino. 133 00:09:50,206 --> 00:09:53,141 Mira la geografia de este lugar. 134 00:09:53,278 --> 00:09:55,733 Este es el fin del camino... 135 00:09:55,807 --> 00:09:59,385 Este es lugar a donde va todo lo que no es bueno. 136 00:09:59,998 --> 00:10:01,624 Incluyendo a las personas. 137 00:10:04,863 --> 00:10:06,751 Estamos trabajando con este tipo de personas que... 138 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,426 estan en la sociedad brasilera, no tan diferentes a la basura misma. 139 00:10:11,328 --> 00:10:17,373 La cosa mas venenosa en la cultura y sociedad brasilera es el clasismo. 140 00:10:17,730 --> 00:10:22,337 Es horrible como la gente realmente cree... 141 00:10:22,337 --> 00:10:24,094 y estoy hablando de gente educada... 142 00:10:24,194 --> 00:10:26,747 Ellos realmente creen que son mejores que otras personas. 143 00:11:22,601 --> 00:11:23,233 �Vez? 144 00:11:23,305 --> 00:11:25,988 Es toda una industria del reciclaje alrededor de esto. 145 00:11:27,017 --> 00:11:28,675 La gente esta lidiando con basura. 146 00:11:33,098 --> 00:11:36,263 Cada simple espacio esta llenado con basura. 147 00:11:37,739 --> 00:11:39,402 �Vez a las personas que estan cargando basura? 148 00:11:39,402 --> 00:11:40,996 Es como la tierra de la basura. 149 00:11:41,195 --> 00:11:44,611 La gente nos mira de una forma graciosa, "�que diablos estamos haciendo aca?" 150 00:11:46,636 --> 00:11:48,294 Veo la loma. 151 00:11:50,124 --> 00:11:51,073 Oh diablos. 152 00:11:51,501 --> 00:11:52,448 Oh Dios mio. 153 00:11:52,748 --> 00:11:54,210 Es como una monta�a. 154 00:12:03,501 --> 00:12:05,574 Donde estamos exactamente? 155 00:12:06,541 --> 00:12:07,916 Justo aqui. 156 00:12:10,191 --> 00:12:13,966 Hola Lucio, soy Vik. 157 00:12:14,127 --> 00:12:14,792 Encantado de conocerte. 158 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:17,646 Hola, �como estas? 159 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:26,543 Eso es realmente impresionante... 160 00:12:26,543 --> 00:12:28,177 �es ese el mas grande vertedero en el mundo?. 161 00:12:28,177 --> 00:12:34,342 Si, es el mas grande vertedero en terminos de volumen de basura recibida diariamente. 162 00:12:36,113 --> 00:12:38,153 La tierra debajo de esto es toda blanda. 163 00:12:38,930 --> 00:12:41,199 El vertedero es como una bandeja de mermelada. 164 00:12:41,266 --> 00:12:44,275 si sigues a�adiendola sin balancearla apropiadamente... 165 00:12:44,275 --> 00:12:48,203 se hundira aqui o colapsara alla. 166 00:13:05,685 --> 00:13:07,311 Puedes ver que estan reciclando por alla. 167 00:13:07,477 --> 00:13:08,405 Y ahi es separado. 168 00:13:08,405 --> 00:13:13,075 Cardboard, paper, plastics, glass, metal - they collect everything. 169 00:13:13,718 --> 00:13:16,140 It works like a stock exchange. 170 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:22,706 They collect whatever the market demands at any given time. 171 00:13:22,775 --> 00:13:24,695 So the recycling wholesalers tell the pickers what they need... 172 00:13:24,695 --> 00:13:26,456 and then that's what they collect. 173 00:13:26,456 --> 00:13:27,383 Yes, that's right. 174 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,535 They sell the materials right here at the landfill. 175 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,455 And then it goes to the recycling wholesalers, the intermediaries. 176 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,335 There they process it, removing the bottle caps and so on. 177 00:13:37,465 --> 00:13:40,760 From there it goes to another company for shredding. 178 00:13:40,824 --> 00:13:43,129 The shredded material gets sold again... 179 00:13:43,129 --> 00:13:46,358 to companies who mold it into car bumpers, buckets, etc. 180 00:13:48,570 --> 00:13:51,002 The pickers take out 200 tons of materials per day from the landfill. 181 00:13:51,002 --> 00:13:52,344 - Todos los dias. - Todos los dias. 182 00:13:52,858 --> 00:13:55,509 That's equivalent to the garbage produced by a city of 400,000 people. 183 00:13:55,963 --> 00:13:57,938 - Amazing! - Yeah. 184 00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,506 So that's why the pickers are really important to the landfill... 185 00:14:00,634 --> 00:14:04,018 because they help increase its capacity. 186 00:14:04,508 --> 00:14:06,101 Does all of Rio's trash end up here? 187 00:14:06,172 --> 00:14:08,725 70% of Rio's trash ends up here... 188 00:14:09,084 --> 00:14:11,451 and 100% of the closest suburbs. 189 00:14:12,445 --> 00:14:15,860 So the garbage from the millionaire's mansion mixes... 190 00:14:15,934 --> 00:14:21,051 with the garbage from the poorest favela? 191 00:14:21,118 --> 00:14:21,913 For sure. 192 00:14:25,630 --> 00:14:26,579 Dude! 193 00:14:28,126 --> 00:14:29,620 Dude, It's a city of garbage! 194 00:14:35,392 --> 00:14:37,945 Es gracioso como te acostumbras al olor. 195 00:14:38,016 --> 00:14:39,478 Claro, me siento como en casa! 196 00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:56,225 - Escuchaste eso? - No. 197 00:14:56,706 --> 00:14:59,128 Ese tipo dijo: "Ellos estan filmando para Animal Planet!" 198 00:15:02,723 --> 00:15:04,633 No esta tan mal como pensaba. 199 00:15:06,243 --> 00:15:09,210 Here we are in the largest sanitary facility... 200 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:11,072 in the world. 201 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:13,914 And the people are talking. 202 00:15:14,212 --> 00:15:17,316 And I don't see people depressed or anything. 203 00:15:17,316 --> 00:15:19,651 They seem very proud of what they are doing. 204 00:15:19,909 --> 00:15:21,502 We better get out of here. 205 00:15:34,117 --> 00:15:35,362 What you see up there... 206 00:15:35,718 --> 00:15:39,876 it looks very chaotic, but it's very organized by material... 207 00:15:40,071 --> 00:15:44,033 and by the company that picks it up and takes it to the recycling. 208 00:15:55,304 --> 00:15:56,319 He's the radio. 209 00:15:58,377 --> 00:15:59,653 Enjoying the game? 210 00:16:03,754 --> 00:16:07,049 The pickers who sort through the garbage. 211 00:16:07,274 --> 00:16:10,315 I learned here is that they have... 212 00:16:10,315 --> 00:16:13,184 there own choices of solid garbage of recyclable garbage. 213 00:16:13,771 --> 00:16:16,939 Women for instance they prefer recyclable plastic... 214 00:16:16,939 --> 00:16:18,347 and soft drink bottles... 215 00:16:18,347 --> 00:16:20,737 and disposable plastic because it's lighter. 216 00:16:22,508 --> 00:16:24,035 This is where the trucks stop? 217 00:16:24,141 --> 00:16:26,765 Yeah the trucks give us a ride up here. 218 00:16:26,765 --> 00:16:28,619 And you each take your own barrels with you? 219 00:16:28,685 --> 00:16:32,165 Yeah, we have to buy them. They cost US$30. 220 00:16:33,453 --> 00:16:34,380 What's your name? 221 00:16:34,637 --> 00:16:36,426 Isis Rodrigues Garros. 222 00:16:36,781 --> 00:16:39,945 - Isis Rodrigo? - Rodrigues. 223 00:16:41,454 --> 00:16:43,015 Dejame tomarles una foto a ustedes dos. 224 00:16:43,854 --> 00:16:44,802 Hazlo de nuevo. 225 00:16:47,663 --> 00:16:48,229 Gracias. 226 00:16:50,447 --> 00:16:52,271 - Adios, gracias. - Adios, Isis. 227 00:16:52,271 --> 00:16:53,384 How about with my hair down? 228 00:16:57,999 --> 00:16:59,560 Filmala! 229 00:16:59,792 --> 00:17:01,134 Filmala! 230 00:17:01,265 --> 00:17:02,693 What a show-off! 231 00:17:04,753 --> 00:17:06,443 - Adios, gracias a todos! - Adios Isis. 232 00:17:19,378 --> 00:17:21,102 Dejame presentarte a Zumbi. 233 00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:22,283 Su apodo es Zumbi. 234 00:17:22,643 --> 00:17:28,939 He's on the board of the Association of Pickers of Jardim Gramacho, ACAMJG. 235 00:17:29,075 --> 00:17:31,726 We have to think about the future... 236 00:17:31,988 --> 00:17:35,436 because I don't want my son to be a picker. 237 00:17:35,509 --> 00:17:38,640 Although if he is, I'd be very proud... 238 00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:44,176 But I'd rather he be a lawyer, to represent the pickers, you know? 239 00:17:44,245 --> 00:17:48,337 Or a doctor to care for the pickers in the association. 240 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,248 We're here representing the 3,000 pickers of Jardim Gramacho. 241 00:18:15,481 --> 00:18:18,351 There is still no recycling collection in the city. 242 00:18:18,586 --> 00:18:24,150 You haven't even built anything and you want to sell off the land. 243 00:18:24,282 --> 00:18:30,677 The federal government gave us that land to build a recycling center. 244 00:18:30,843 --> 00:18:32,059 Thanks to the pickers... 245 00:18:32,059 --> 00:18:34,683 we built a recycling center without a single cent from the city. 246 00:18:34,683 --> 00:18:36,538 And now you are pretending that we don't exist! 247 00:18:43,197 --> 00:18:46,230 We're going to start a hunger strike here in front of the mayor's office. 248 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,635 Hunger strike!? Yeah, right! 249 00:18:54,685 --> 00:18:59,421 I don't know about you guys, but I'm having lunch at noon! 250 00:18:59,486 --> 00:19:00,413 Is it here? 251 00:19:03,678 --> 00:19:04,310 Excuse me. 252 00:19:04,382 --> 00:19:06,324 Excuse me, Sebasti�o? 253 00:19:06,975 --> 00:19:10,324 - I'm Vik, a pleasure to meet you. - A pleasure, I'm Ti�o. 254 00:19:10,655 --> 00:19:13,306 - This is Fabio. - Hi Fabio, how are you? 255 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,136 I'm the Brazilian artist who is the most - I hate to say this... 256 00:19:19,136 --> 00:19:23,675 but who sells and is the most popular overseas. 257 00:19:25,281 --> 00:19:26,305 Congratulations man! 258 00:19:26,305 --> 00:19:28,033 I grew up very poor, 259 00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:34,177 but now I've reached a point where I want to give back. 260 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,566 I want to make portraits of the pickers and then sell them. 261 00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:41,213 All the money from the sale of the portraits will be given back to you. 262 00:19:41,283 --> 00:19:46,073 You'll be able to do some things to make life easier for the community. 263 00:19:46,531 --> 00:19:50,306 When we started this association, everyone laughed at us. 264 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:53,661 "You're crazy, that's not going anywhere!" 265 00:19:53,732 --> 00:19:57,442 "Association for what? You're never going to achieve anything." 266 00:19:57,701 --> 00:20:00,898 Everybody criticized us. Even the pickers, they were the worst. 267 00:20:01,093 --> 00:20:06,277 They said it wouldn't lead anywhere, that it would never work. 268 00:20:06,533 --> 00:20:08,225 I believed in it. I said no. 269 00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:14,012 Now I believe when you put your mind to something, you can achieve it. 270 00:20:14,439 --> 00:20:16,231 Take you, for example. 271 00:20:16,231 --> 00:20:20,776 How many people told you to give up, that it was never going to happen? 272 00:20:20,776 --> 00:20:24,737 Yeah, starting with my father, my own father. 273 00:20:24,904 --> 00:20:27,496 He'd say "That's bullshit." 274 00:20:27,496 --> 00:20:28,642 "It's not going to get you anywhere." 275 00:20:28,776 --> 00:20:32,933 When we demonstrated they'd say "That's not going to get you anywhere." 276 00:20:33,097 --> 00:20:35,236 Well we have paved roads and a sewage system now. 277 00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:39,875 If you went outside right now you'd see children in the street, picking garbage. 278 00:20:40,362 --> 00:20:43,558 We need to change that. 279 00:20:43,722 --> 00:20:45,867 I was lucky because I had my grandmother, 280 00:20:45,867 --> 00:20:47,328 and she taught me to read at a very young age. 281 00:20:47,403 --> 00:20:49,770 Yeah, reading is so important. 282 00:20:49,994 --> 00:20:53,442 Some people are crazy and throw away their books. It's absurd. 283 00:20:53,516 --> 00:20:55,785 One time Zumbi brought me a book and he almost cried. 284 00:20:56,428 --> 00:20:58,338 He said "Man, this book is still being sold. 285 00:20:58,412 --> 00:21:00,746 I saw it yesterday and it's expensive!" 286 00:21:00,812 --> 00:21:02,885 It looks like someone barely read it and just threw it away. 287 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:04,364 Wow that's great! 288 00:21:04,493 --> 00:21:06,924 Yeah it's great that Zumbi picks them out of the trash and brings them here! 289 00:21:06,924 --> 00:21:12,302 The other pickers just tear up books and recycle them. 290 00:21:12,302 --> 00:21:18,445 But Zumbi picks out the good books, and brings them here for us to read. 291 00:21:25,999 --> 00:21:28,335 I collect 'arruivo' meaning books, folders. 292 00:21:28,335 --> 00:21:29,612 Paper. 293 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,087 We have thousands of books... 294 00:21:31,087 --> 00:21:33,160 because they're dumped in the landfill all the time. 295 00:21:36,272 --> 00:21:41,129 I have a plan to make a community library in my space. 296 00:21:41,841 --> 00:21:47,656 Up until now, I've been responsible for bringing books to the association. 297 00:21:48,434 --> 00:21:52,842 I've read a few books - The Da Vinci Code, The Art of War. 298 00:21:53,170 --> 00:21:55,985 And I give a lot of books to Ti�o. 299 00:21:58,739 --> 00:22:00,081 Shit! Man! 300 00:22:57,722 --> 00:22:59,697 It's good to fly over... 301 00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:01,721 so we can see what we are up against. 302 00:23:03,451 --> 00:23:05,622 And it's like this all over. 303 00:23:06,715 --> 00:23:08,854 This is by far the worst I have seen. 304 00:23:08,923 --> 00:23:10,897 It looks like they were completely left. 305 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:13,754 And the day after we left there... 306 00:23:13,979 --> 00:23:15,802 in the afternoon they found a body there. 307 00:23:15,931 --> 00:23:17,873 They can just stick a body there... 308 00:23:18,077 --> 00:23:21,372 And it's going to be under the garbage in 12 hours. 309 00:23:22,652 --> 00:23:26,363 And you become a source of methane gas. 310 00:23:28,093 --> 00:23:31,358 I already see just as a beginning. 311 00:23:31,358 --> 00:23:34,620 I see 3 characters: Tiao, Zumbi, Isis. 312 00:23:35,006 --> 00:23:36,087 I think we can start... 313 00:23:36,158 --> 00:23:38,842 with the people we have already made some contact with. 314 00:23:39,582 --> 00:23:41,524 I think it is the first time I saw... 315 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:43,774 something that you are doing... 316 00:23:44,352 --> 00:23:47,451 where it looks better when you are close. 317 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,080 From above... 318 00:23:50,368 --> 00:23:52,311 you don't have any of the human factor. 319 00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:55,996 Which so far is the best part of what we encountered there? 320 00:23:56,065 --> 00:23:56,545 Yes. 321 00:23:56,545 --> 00:23:58,782 The human factor there is beautiful really. 322 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,907 From far there is not "desmaios", the people choking. 323 00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:03,937 There was none of that. 324 00:24:04,034 --> 00:24:05,660 They were just like little ants... 325 00:24:06,561 --> 00:24:08,350 doing what they do every day. 326 00:24:40,581 --> 00:24:41,476 What? 327 00:24:42,631 --> 00:24:43,078 Hein? 328 00:24:43,143 --> 00:24:44,484 Hold it here for me, please. 329 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,779 Howdy folks! 330 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,324 There's still the card problem. 331 00:25:04,936 --> 00:25:06,441 The fight is long comrade... 332 00:25:06,441 --> 00:25:08,710 - but victory is certain! - Of course. 333 00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:14,086 It's not bad to be poor. 334 00:25:14,826 --> 00:25:21,472 It's bad to be rich at the height of fame with your morals a dirty shame. 335 00:25:21,547 --> 00:25:22,921 Yeah, yeah. 336 00:25:22,986 --> 00:25:25,507 That's bad! 337 00:25:28,075 --> 00:25:31,239 DANGER. RISK OF LIFE. 338 00:25:31,659 --> 00:25:33,220 - This is Valter dos Santos. - Good morning! 339 00:25:33,292 --> 00:25:35,845 - Hi! I'm Vik, Vik Muniz. - I'm Valter dos Santos. 340 00:25:37,676 --> 00:25:40,458 What is this and why are you doing it? 341 00:25:40,621 --> 00:25:44,647 We are making portraits of the picker. 342 00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:46,310 Because the picker is a person... 343 00:25:46,862 --> 00:25:50,179 like this garbage, that nobody knows about. 344 00:25:50,253 --> 00:25:53,549 Very well, so from what I understand, 345 00:25:54,574 --> 00:25:57,225 I think this is very good for us... 346 00:25:57,550 --> 00:26:03,472 because it will raise awareness about us pickers. 347 00:26:03,472 --> 00:26:06,286 - Isn't that about right? - Exactly. 348 00:26:06,512 --> 00:26:09,415 I hope you understand me because I don't have... 349 00:26:09,488 --> 00:26:11,310 either a primary or a secondary education. 350 00:26:12,273 --> 00:26:17,292 You didn't ask me, but I'm going to introduce myself. 351 00:26:17,457 --> 00:26:20,239 I like introducing myself with my own voice. 352 00:26:20,881 --> 00:26:23,467 I have been a picker here for 26 years. 353 00:26:24,434 --> 00:26:27,084 I am proud to be a picker. 354 00:26:28,626 --> 00:26:31,180 I'm the Vice President of ACAMJG... 355 00:26:31,762 --> 00:26:35,855 the Association of Pickers of Jardim Gramacho. 356 00:26:36,275 --> 00:26:43,313 I represent 2,500 pickers who work here at the landfill. 357 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:46,831 I carry this with pride. 358 00:26:50,645 --> 00:26:54,922 Let's say each household generates one kilo of garbage. 359 00:26:55,862 --> 00:27:02,354 And one kilo of garbage generates 500 grams of recyclable material. 360 00:27:02,774 --> 00:27:07,347 So a thousand homes generate 500 kilos... 361 00:27:07,415 --> 00:27:09,106 of material that could be recycled. 362 00:27:09,238 --> 00:27:13,844 That's 500 kilos less of material that would pollute the rivers, the lagoons... 363 00:27:13,912 --> 00:27:18,287 that won't clog the sewers or be buried here in the landfill... 364 00:27:21,464 --> 00:27:25,774 doing such great harm to nature and the environment. 365 00:27:26,714 --> 00:27:30,424 I try to explain to people... 366 00:27:32,858 --> 00:27:38,194 what they can recycle and what they can compost... 367 00:27:39,227 --> 00:27:41,300 and what they should do. 368 00:27:41,627 --> 00:27:44,975 People sometimes say "But one single can?" 369 00:27:46,172 --> 00:27:49,042 One single can is of great importance. 370 00:27:49,116 --> 00:27:52,050 Because 99 is not 100, 371 00:27:53,341 --> 00:27:54,999 and that single one will make the difference. 372 00:28:30,305 --> 00:28:31,581 I feel disgusting. 373 00:28:35,842 --> 00:28:38,656 I can't believe you want to show me all dirty. 374 00:28:38,722 --> 00:28:40,828 So tell me Isis, how long have you worked here? 375 00:28:41,026 --> 00:28:43,065 - Five years. - Five years? 376 00:28:43,298 --> 00:28:44,924 And what's it like working here? 377 00:28:45,443 --> 00:28:47,385 - Really bad. Awful. - Really bad? 378 00:28:47,555 --> 00:28:48,482 You don't like it? 379 00:28:49,827 --> 00:28:51,999 Look Vik, it's Vik, right? 380 00:28:54,948 --> 00:28:56,225 This isn't a future. 381 00:28:56,515 --> 00:28:59,581 But you make good money here, right? 382 00:29:00,036 --> 00:29:03,484 Yes, I make US$20-$25 a day. 383 00:29:05,124 --> 00:29:06,204 Beautiful! 384 00:29:06,724 --> 00:29:07,455 That's right! 385 00:29:07,973 --> 00:29:08,955 Very good! 386 00:29:09,317 --> 00:29:10,397 It really is very good. 387 00:29:11,014 --> 00:29:14,942 Think about what you're going to do when you get out of Gramacho. 388 00:29:15,013 --> 00:29:16,322 When you're rich and famous. 389 00:29:19,751 --> 00:29:21,343 I met someone. 390 00:29:23,239 --> 00:29:26,687 And today I am in love with him. 391 00:29:26,823 --> 00:29:28,481 He is a truck driver. 392 00:29:28,552 --> 00:29:29,348 It's just that... 393 00:29:29,992 --> 00:29:31,747 I can't talk about it or I'll start to cry. 394 00:29:33,864 --> 00:29:35,620 It's been 2 weeks since we broke up. 395 00:29:42,089 --> 00:29:43,337 I really like him. 396 00:29:43,337 --> 00:29:45,377 He was a good thing in my life. 397 00:29:45,673 --> 00:29:47,397 But it's been two weeks since we broke up. 398 00:29:47,465 --> 00:29:50,314 I got a tattoo of his name on my leg. 399 00:29:50,314 --> 00:29:51,296 And you won't get back together? 400 00:29:51,947 --> 00:29:52,907 I don't think so. 401 00:29:52,907 --> 00:29:53,921 Why did you break up? 402 00:29:55,179 --> 00:29:56,357 It ended because... 403 00:29:59,372 --> 00:30:00,517 he was married. 404 00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:02,921 And so it ended. 405 00:30:32,078 --> 00:30:35,494 Look out! Get out of the way! 406 00:31:50,967 --> 00:31:52,528 I have nothing to complain about in my life. 407 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:55,894 Nothing, nothing at all. 408 00:31:58,904 --> 00:32:02,102 Oh, man, if I complained God would punish me. 409 00:32:04,249 --> 00:32:05,591 Tell him what you want be. 410 00:32:06,010 --> 00:32:07,898 I want to be a doctor. 411 00:32:09,434 --> 00:32:10,547 What kind a doctor? 412 00:32:11,834 --> 00:32:13,143 A psychologist. 413 00:32:14,203 --> 00:32:17,072 Did you know that psychologists take care of crazy people? 414 00:32:19,515 --> 00:32:21,340 - Yeah. - No, that's not true. 415 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,609 No? So what do psychologists do? 416 00:32:24,605 --> 00:32:29,722 There was a woman there who was blonde. 417 00:32:30,589 --> 00:32:31,963 Oh. Beto's wife! 418 00:32:32,061 --> 00:32:41,631 And she told me that if I wanted I could be a psychologist. 419 00:32:41,631 --> 00:32:44,086 So that's why I want to be a psychologist. 420 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,207 It's ruiet now because there are no wars between the favelas. 421 00:32:50,207 --> 00:32:52,312 But when there are wars between the favelas... 422 00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:55,637 you can be sure that a lot of dead bodies will be dumped here. 423 00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,556 There are always weird things here. 424 00:33:02,945 --> 00:33:03,741 Marat! 425 00:33:04,161 --> 00:33:05,688 Yeah, who's Marat? 426 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,143 - Marat was an intellectual... - Oh, like me. 427 00:33:09,505 --> 00:33:12,354 Nobody else likes the guys I like. Me gusta Machiavelli. 428 00:33:12,354 --> 00:33:13,345 Machiavelli's cool. 429 00:33:13,345 --> 00:33:16,248 - Who I really like is Nietzsche. - What about Nietzsche? 430 00:33:16,321 --> 00:33:18,297 Nietzsche's got a great philosophy on life. 431 00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:19,745 Let's make Ti�o into Marat. 432 00:33:19,971 --> 00:33:21,978 He died in the bathtub like this. 433 00:33:23,523 --> 00:33:26,971 - Bring that bathtub! - I'm going to play a dead guy. 434 00:33:27,683 --> 00:33:30,755 One time I was walking in the garbage and I came across this book. 435 00:33:30,755 --> 00:33:33,472 It was all muddy and on it was written "The Prince" by Machiavelli. 436 00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:38,112 I felt like reading it so I took it home and put it behind the fridge to dry. 437 00:33:38,245 --> 00:33:39,781 When it dried out I began to read. 438 00:33:39,781 --> 00:33:45,826 Machiavelli wrote about all of the princes of his day. 439 00:33:45,894 --> 00:33:47,846 That time period in Florence, that madness... 440 00:33:47,846 --> 00:33:50,470 it reminds me a lot of Rio today, all these different fiefdoms... 441 00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:55,521 each with their own gangs and their own fortifications. 442 00:33:55,974 --> 00:33:57,384 I got really into it. 443 00:33:57,384 --> 00:34:03,167 He talks about Moses, who became leader because God talked to him. 444 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,695 And Cesare Borgia, because of the corrupt pope. 445 00:34:05,768 --> 00:34:12,456 That was when I was becoming President of the Association. 446 00:34:12,456 --> 00:34:13,667 Aprendi harto. 447 00:34:16,074 --> 00:34:16,935 Tengan cuidado! 448 00:34:18,152 --> 00:34:21,896 You can get further in, and sit up a bit more. 449 00:34:21,962 --> 00:34:23,370 My legs will stick out. 450 00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:26,152 - You can bend them. - We'll cut that out. 451 00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:28,738 He's like this. 452 00:34:30,154 --> 00:34:31,083 That's it. 453 00:34:31,083 --> 00:34:33,123 This piece of paper is in the left hand. 454 00:34:33,226 --> 00:34:33,990 This hand. 455 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:36,809 That's it exactly! That's right! 456 00:34:46,508 --> 00:34:48,363 - Got it! - Thank you, Ti�o! 457 00:34:48,588 --> 00:34:49,766 Very cool, man! 458 00:34:50,861 --> 00:34:53,960 Quiere jugo? cafe? 459 00:35:18,448 --> 00:35:21,743 This is beef stew, rib stew. 460 00:35:23,537 --> 00:35:25,447 Here's boiling water to make pasta. 461 00:35:28,817 --> 00:35:29,864 Hand me that bag! 462 00:35:36,915 --> 00:35:43,244 When the market produce ends up here in boxes, it's easier for me. 463 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:45,041 I get potatoes and vegetables. 464 00:35:45,107 --> 00:35:47,563 The drivers from the supermarket trucks bring me clean vegetables. 465 00:35:47,732 --> 00:35:54,738 If the meat truck comes, the boys get it before the expiration date. 466 00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:08,816 I am a trained cook, a restaurant cook. 467 00:36:09,078 --> 00:36:11,158 In this garbage I make many things. 468 00:36:11,158 --> 00:36:15,436 I make salads, potato, roast beef. 469 00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:18,609 When I can get a good cut of meat, I roast it for them. 470 00:36:18,807 --> 00:36:20,728 And them they get silly and sing me happy birthday, 471 00:36:20,728 --> 00:36:21,938 even though it isn't my birthday. 472 00:36:22,935 --> 00:36:28,850 We feel good in here. I feel very good. 473 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,704 Even if it rains, I get the fire running to cook. 474 00:36:31,768 --> 00:36:33,394 I don't let anyone go hungry. 475 00:36:39,834 --> 00:36:43,860 - Just like that. - Like that? 476 00:36:43,931 --> 00:36:45,556 That's right, but face me! 477 00:37:01,405 --> 00:37:04,633 Don't put this on TV, I'd die. 478 00:37:05,276 --> 00:37:08,026 I first came here almost a year ago. 479 00:37:09,725 --> 00:37:12,213 My husband became unemployed. 480 00:37:12,990 --> 00:37:16,634 And we had to pay the bills, keep the household, support my son. 481 00:37:17,854 --> 00:37:19,959 We would get on the bus, and people would go like this. 482 00:37:21,471 --> 00:37:22,648 It's quite a perfume! 483 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,753 It got to the point where I'd say: Excuse me ma'am, but do I stink? 484 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,967 Do you smell something bad? 485 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,949 It's because I was working over there in the dump. 486 00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:33,110 It's better than turning tricks in Copacabana. 487 00:37:33,409 --> 00:37:35,580 I find it to be more interesting and more honest. 488 00:37:35,648 --> 00:37:36,542 It's more dignified. 489 00:37:36,896 --> 00:37:39,231 I stink now, but when I get home I'll take a shower, and it'll be fine. 490 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,273 But it's disgusting. 491 00:37:44,481 --> 00:37:48,159 It's easy for you to be sitting there at home in front of your television... 492 00:37:48,354 --> 00:37:51,005 consuming whatever you want and tossing everything in the trash... 493 00:37:51,106 --> 00:37:53,186 and leaving it out on the street for the garbage truck to take it away. 494 00:37:53,186 --> 00:37:54,332 But where does that garbage go? 495 00:37:57,059 --> 00:37:57,952 That's it. 496 00:37:58,243 --> 00:37:59,966 We go along. 497 00:38:00,098 --> 00:38:02,587 The fight is expensive. We have a great value. 498 00:38:17,221 --> 00:38:18,431 Come on boy! 499 00:38:19,141 --> 00:38:21,116 Come here and get your hands dirty. 500 00:38:22,629 --> 00:38:28,413 When you go to get your money you don't say it's dirty. 501 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:31,012 Easy there. Let's go. 502 00:38:34,343 --> 00:38:36,384 Come on, come on! 503 00:38:39,879 --> 00:38:43,175 Fabio, we need to see what material you're going to use. 504 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:47,304 Ok, so the easiest thing to decide is the carnival stuff. 505 00:38:47,304 --> 00:38:48,297 Costumes and things like that? 506 00:38:48,297 --> 00:38:52,488 Costumes and things because clear glass is no of no use for me. 507 00:38:52,777 --> 00:38:57,578 But green champagne bottles, brown beer bottles, costumes... 508 00:38:57,578 --> 00:38:59,465 you could collect things like that for me. 509 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:04,197 Are we going to do it by weight or by tarpful? 510 00:39:05,354 --> 00:39:08,971 How do we do it? They told me that a tarp cost US$0.40 per kilo? 511 00:39:08,971 --> 00:39:09,832 Per kilo, yeah. 512 00:39:10,603 --> 00:39:12,267 And they said that one cost US$0.70 cents? 513 00:39:12,267 --> 00:39:13,445 Yes, US$0.71 cents. 514 00:39:13,548 --> 00:39:15,817 This is PET. When it makes that noise you know it's PET. 515 00:39:17,101 --> 00:39:21,133 That for example is not PET, it's PP. It's the most expensive. 516 00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:23,816 And what about brown glass? 517 00:39:23,885 --> 00:39:26,541 Glass we have to pick specially, we normally don't pick glass. 518 00:39:26,541 --> 00:39:28,622 - No? - No, normally we don't. 519 00:39:28,622 --> 00:39:31,309 - Do you have a price for it? - Glass is US$0.06 cents per kilo. 520 00:39:31,309 --> 00:39:34,790 - Six cents? It's cheaper than PET? - Yeah, it's a lot cheaper. 521 00:39:34,862 --> 00:39:36,935 - But it's a lot heavier. - But it's a lot heavier. 522 00:39:37,903 --> 00:39:40,870 What's all that mixed up over there, bottles, that hoses... 523 00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:42,437 That's all PVC. 524 00:39:42,575 --> 00:39:46,536 PVC is almost all made up of different objects. 525 00:39:47,279 --> 00:39:47,781 Right. 526 00:39:48,784 --> 00:39:49,929 There are jellies. 527 00:39:52,817 --> 00:39:54,246 X-rays. 528 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,946 PVC is what I will use the most. 529 00:39:56,497 --> 00:39:59,825 It gives you the feeling of being "everything". 530 00:39:59,825 --> 00:40:00,589 Of objects. 531 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:06,667 For me PVC is the filet mignon Definitely. 532 00:40:06,993 --> 00:40:11,631 And I'll use the PET and glass more as filler. 533 00:40:12,403 --> 00:40:13,482 To fill it up. 534 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:25,518 - Just white Paper. - PET, metals. 535 00:40:26,229 --> 00:40:28,116 Just white paper. 536 00:40:28,181 --> 00:40:29,522 Watch the truck! 537 00:40:30,005 --> 00:40:32,085 Here it comes! 538 00:40:32,085 --> 00:40:35,795 Watch the truck! 539 00:40:37,078 --> 00:40:40,940 Before coming to the landfill, we had a calm life. 540 00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:43,510 My mother still lived with my father. 541 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:48,399 I was the oldest and I had two younger brothers. 542 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:50,926 But then my father died. 543 00:40:51,895 --> 00:40:55,955 You're sowing, throwing grain like this. 544 00:40:56,023 --> 00:40:57,169 - I'm sowing. - Yeah. 545 00:40:57,592 --> 00:41:00,789 This hand here can be relaxed and open. 546 00:41:03,353 --> 00:41:05,939 My mother was struggling. 547 00:41:06,072 --> 00:41:07,895 We heard about Jardim Gramacho. 548 00:41:07,961 --> 00:41:11,060 My mother came here, and then I came too. 549 00:41:11,161 --> 00:41:12,655 I started to help her out. 550 00:41:12,794 --> 00:41:14,288 I was nine years old. 551 00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:18,447 My mother worked here for a while, but then she died as well. 552 00:41:28,923 --> 00:41:31,128 Once, I was collecting here on the ramp... 553 00:41:31,323 --> 00:41:33,396 when the gate of the garbage truck fell off. 554 00:41:33,468 --> 00:41:38,836 It fell on me, and started to drag me and crush me... 555 00:41:39,069 --> 00:41:40,727 I broke my leg, my arm. 556 00:41:40,797 --> 00:41:43,382 I fractured a rib. 557 00:41:45,054 --> 00:41:49,015 I broke my other arm here. I was in really bad shape. 558 00:41:49,213 --> 00:41:52,727 If it weren't for my friends here... 559 00:41:52,798 --> 00:41:54,740 Over 20 people donated blood. 560 00:41:54,814 --> 00:41:59,834 It was great for the hospital because their blood bank was filled. 561 00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:02,935 People here gave me a lot of support. 562 00:44:24,081 --> 00:44:26,023 It's better than during the day, there are less people. 563 00:44:26,993 --> 00:44:28,040 It's better than being out there... 564 00:44:28,112 --> 00:44:30,022 like a lot of people, prostituting yourself. 565 00:44:30,449 --> 00:44:32,271 We are working honestly. 566 00:44:33,009 --> 00:44:34,383 We're earning our living. 567 00:44:41,394 --> 00:44:42,954 I've worked since I was seven years old. 568 00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:45,257 Now I'm 18. 569 00:44:48,083 --> 00:44:49,610 I eat what I find around here. 570 00:44:50,067 --> 00:44:51,660 I take it from the truck. 571 00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:56,082 Yogurt comes along, whatever comes along, I eat it. 572 00:44:57,652 --> 00:45:01,034 If I don't die, it's not bad. I can get by. 573 00:45:02,388 --> 00:45:06,131 We see things that aren't pleasant. 574 00:45:09,558 --> 00:45:12,790 Like the other day I went up there and something made me throw up... 575 00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:16,139 There was a baby there that had been thrown away. 576 00:45:16,406 --> 00:45:18,064 I fell over backwards. 577 00:45:18,774 --> 00:45:20,083 I immediately thought of my own kids. 578 00:45:21,622 --> 00:45:23,565 - It was dead? - Yes. 579 00:45:26,967 --> 00:45:29,236 Rent is US$8 per week. 580 00:45:30,551 --> 00:45:33,781 If you are late and pay on Monday it's US$13. 581 00:45:37,272 --> 00:45:41,845 I go home to see my kids every couple of weeks. 582 00:45:42,137 --> 00:45:45,585 Sometimes I'll just go and come back on the same day. 583 00:45:46,873 --> 00:45:49,329 My daughter is three years old, my son is almost two. 584 00:45:52,442 --> 00:45:58,455 Their father is a drug dealer. If I counted on him, I'd be screwed. 585 00:46:05,244 --> 00:46:08,092 Sometimes I get visitors, the rats. 586 00:46:09,148 --> 00:46:11,388 They run around in the roof. It drives me crazy. 587 00:46:11,388 --> 00:46:12,949 I run out of here screaming. 588 00:46:16,765 --> 00:46:18,074 Even when they're asleep, they annoy me. 589 00:46:18,174 --> 00:46:20,562 They fall off the roof onto the bed sometimes. 590 00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:27,160 Bye. 591 00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:29,081 - Leaving already? - Yes. 592 00:46:32,959 --> 00:46:35,545 My daughter caught a fungus. 593 00:46:36,351 --> 00:46:39,351 My mother also got the fungus. The thing covered her foot. 594 00:46:40,288 --> 00:46:42,076 It messed up her whole foot. 595 00:46:42,976 --> 00:46:45,048 She ended up staying at home and taking care of my kids. 596 00:46:47,264 --> 00:46:49,053 - Where are you going? - Home. 597 00:46:55,233 --> 00:46:58,463 I would like to take care of children. 598 00:46:58,529 --> 00:47:01,498 I really love children, my own as well as other people's. 599 00:47:02,818 --> 00:47:04,728 If it was up to me, I'd open a day care center. 600 00:47:05,763 --> 00:47:07,519 There are so many children. 601 00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:18,587 Come here you beautiful thing. 602 00:47:26,916 --> 00:47:29,089 How are you? 603 00:47:29,157 --> 00:47:31,547 Come here you beautiful thing. 604 00:47:32,838 --> 00:47:35,227 Give mommy a kiss! Give me a kiss! 605 00:47:40,806 --> 00:47:41,821 And you? Are you OK? 606 00:47:43,142 --> 00:47:43,808 No? 607 00:47:44,167 --> 00:47:44,800 No? 608 00:47:45,254 --> 00:47:46,116 What's going on? 609 00:47:49,447 --> 00:47:50,625 And you? Are you OK? 610 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,822 Here is our kitchen. 611 00:47:54,889 --> 00:47:57,606 It's small, but you can still make a little something in it. 612 00:47:58,313 --> 00:48:00,702 We make food on that stove. 613 00:48:01,449 --> 00:48:07,079 Here is the living room where we put a bunc of junk. 614 00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:08,548 The bathroom is here. 615 00:48:11,243 --> 00:48:13,217 Oh this bathroom is bad, cut the bathroom. 616 00:48:16,523 --> 00:48:17,221 Here's the bedroom. 617 00:48:17,291 --> 00:48:20,454 This isn't a bed, it's really just a chest of drawers. 618 00:48:21,259 --> 00:48:23,594 We improvised and put the mattress on top. 619 00:48:24,076 --> 00:48:26,247 Everyone sleeps piled up here. 620 00:48:26,572 --> 00:48:29,442 Here's the most recent baby of the house. 621 00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:41,030 TV. Fan. 622 00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:45,319 I moved here after I split from their father. 623 00:48:45,998 --> 00:48:49,927 He beat me and I got so hurt, I had to get out of there. 624 00:48:49,998 --> 00:48:52,967 And there was no other way to survive, so I stayed here. 625 00:48:53,104 --> 00:48:55,853 She is my eldest and she took care of the kids so I could work. 626 00:48:56,175 --> 00:48:58,597 We had to survive somehow. 627 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,888 After a while, we all had to go to the garbage. 628 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,001 There was no one to leave them with, so I brought them with me. 629 00:49:06,577 --> 00:49:08,879 I moved in with their father when I was twelve. 630 00:49:16,242 --> 00:49:17,522 I'm proud of my work... 631 00:49:17,522 --> 00:49:21,319 because at least I'm not involved with the drug traffic... 632 00:49:21,490 --> 00:49:25,168 or prostituting myself, like a lot of pretty girls around here do. 633 00:49:25,587 --> 00:49:28,304 They could be trying to achieve something in life, but no. 634 00:49:28,435 --> 00:49:33,138 They prefer to throw themselves out there onto the street... 635 00:49:34,645 --> 00:49:36,106 prostituting themselves. 636 00:50:20,634 --> 00:50:21,495 Right there. 637 00:50:22,009 --> 00:50:25,173 Magnetic tape. 638 00:50:26,074 --> 00:50:26,968 Is that film? 639 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:30,290 Yes, there are a lot of rolls up there. 640 00:50:30,363 --> 00:50:31,508 I'm going to be Mona Lisa. 641 00:50:37,531 --> 00:50:38,327 What's that? 642 00:50:38,780 --> 00:50:41,748 It has be a woman of a certain age to wear shoes like that. 643 00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:44,697 She must have worked as an executive, right? 644 00:50:45,308 --> 00:50:47,348 To work in a shoe with a pointy toe like that? 645 00:50:48,092 --> 00:50:51,614 Here's a tape. They must have a camera. 646 00:50:51,614 --> 00:50:53,402 - A camera film. - And they've got a computer. 647 00:50:53,469 --> 00:50:55,902 This trash is totally middle class. 648 00:50:55,902 --> 00:50:57,178 Wait a minute, Playboy? 649 00:50:57,310 --> 00:50:58,357 "Dear Subscriber... 650 00:50:58,430 --> 00:51:03,417 you are now part of an exclusive club that receives Playboy... 651 00:51:03,487 --> 00:51:05,494 the best men's magazine in the country." 652 00:51:05,566 --> 00:51:07,672 This guy liked... 653 00:51:07,967 --> 00:51:09,014 And then he died. 654 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,876 This guy didn't have a lot of money. 655 00:51:15,136 --> 00:51:15,744 This one here? 656 00:51:15,744 --> 00:51:18,046 This comes from poor people because it comes in little bags. 657 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,826 - "Poor is the trash of the poor." - I put my trash in little bags too. 658 00:51:21,568 --> 00:51:23,903 To think you guys have gone through my trash. 659 00:51:33,794 --> 00:51:36,697 Actually I like this picture. 660 00:51:38,403 --> 00:51:40,476 What we should do now is get rid of... 661 00:51:40,834 --> 00:51:42,776 is choose the best pictures. 662 00:51:44,259 --> 00:51:46,048 This one. So good. 663 00:51:46,116 --> 00:51:47,009 Yeah, I love it too. 664 00:51:50,052 --> 00:51:51,262 Super super strong. 665 00:51:51,332 --> 00:51:52,510 This is super strong. 666 00:51:55,205 --> 00:51:56,634 This is super strong, also. 667 00:51:59,653 --> 00:52:02,555 I love Isis and Suelem but these shots aren't quite right. 668 00:52:03,077 --> 00:52:04,833 We can shoot them in the studio also. 669 00:52:05,797 --> 00:52:07,455 Yeah, it's not a problem. 670 00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:09,958 - How's it going? - What's up? 671 00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:12,958 How are you? 672 00:52:14,151 --> 00:52:17,416 Everyone who goes to a museum, goes up to a painting... 673 00:52:17,416 --> 00:52:20,351 and then they stop and start to go like this. 674 00:52:22,727 --> 00:52:24,069 Have you seen this? Everyone does it. 675 00:52:24,136 --> 00:52:25,576 - Are they drunk? - It looks like it. 676 00:52:25,576 --> 00:52:29,129 They go like this, and then they go back... 677 00:52:29,129 --> 00:52:30,405 maybe take a little step back. 678 00:52:30,472 --> 00:52:31,849 And then they see the image. 679 00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:36,999 Imagine it's a beautiful landscape with a lake and a man fishing. 680 00:52:37,513 --> 00:52:39,008 They look and see the man fishing... 681 00:52:39,209 --> 00:52:43,465 and they lean in an everything vanishes and becomes paint. 682 00:52:43,978 --> 00:52:46,051 They see the material. 683 00:52:46,186 --> 00:52:48,357 They move away and see the image. 684 00:52:48,427 --> 00:52:50,761 They get closer and see the material. 685 00:52:50,922 --> 00:52:52,711 They move away and see the idea. 686 00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:55,595 They get closer and see just the material. 687 00:52:55,595 --> 00:52:57,570 Since we're pickers, we just see recyclable materials. 688 00:52:57,644 --> 00:52:58,570 - It earns money. - But that's interesting... 689 00:52:58,732 --> 00:52:59,714 You have one point of view. 690 00:53:01,164 --> 00:53:03,914 I got it what this can do with people. 691 00:53:03,981 --> 00:53:10,179 I bet you people stay much longer at your exhibits than anyone does. 692 00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:12,365 They'll spend so much time looking at the image... 693 00:53:12,365 --> 00:53:16,878 because then they'll see the ladder, the piano. 694 00:53:16,878 --> 00:53:18,667 They'll look at everything. 695 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:21,326 They'll spend hours looking at the same picture. 696 00:53:21,326 --> 00:53:24,109 When one thing turns into another is the most beautiful moment. 697 00:53:24,174 --> 00:53:27,631 A combination of sounds transforms into music. 698 00:53:27,631 --> 00:53:28,580 And that applies to everything. 699 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,568 That moment is really magical. 700 00:53:34,673 --> 00:53:35,469 Looks good. 701 00:53:37,936 --> 00:53:40,719 You want to dress up like mommy, in a sheet? 702 00:53:42,193 --> 00:53:45,063 Let me see here. You're going to be just like a little saint. 703 00:53:49,553 --> 00:53:50,699 You're going to sit here. 704 00:53:51,346 --> 00:53:53,965 Move your legs a bit, is that ok? 705 00:53:56,978 --> 00:53:57,709 That's it. 706 00:54:00,595 --> 00:54:02,058 Didn't it come out beautifully? 707 00:54:04,436 --> 00:54:06,548 This whole area will be filled in with stuff. 708 00:54:06,548 --> 00:54:08,403 And it will be clearer at the sides. 709 00:54:08,468 --> 00:54:09,450 Exactly. 710 00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:14,989 When you are placing the materials, follow the shadows of the picture. 711 00:54:36,407 --> 00:54:38,229 Did you just do this one? 712 00:54:38,871 --> 00:54:42,996 Do the same thing with the shorter one. 713 00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:46,544 I want to close this here and see if it makes more sense like that. 714 00:54:47,833 --> 00:54:49,972 See this line going up... 715 00:54:50,777 --> 00:54:53,647 Is there a way to take something away here? 716 00:54:53,721 --> 00:54:54,703 Take off one more. 717 00:54:58,042 --> 00:54:58,740 That's it. 718 00:55:19,356 --> 00:55:21,495 Brooke de Ocampo, Isis. 719 00:55:21,564 --> 00:55:23,387 - Hi, how are you? - Suelen. 720 00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:23,900 Hi. 721 00:55:24,125 --> 00:55:24,990 This is Magna. 722 00:55:24,990 --> 00:55:26,037 - Hi. - How are you? 723 00:55:26,428 --> 00:55:32,660 Brooke has a super important job at an international auction company. 724 00:55:32,958 --> 00:55:37,236 So we're going to make a really big photograph of this. 725 00:55:37,311 --> 00:55:41,915 And she's already agreed to take it to an international sale. 726 00:55:41,982 --> 00:55:46,107 There'll be a guy with a hammer, going, going, going, gone. 727 00:55:48,832 --> 00:55:50,359 Suelen and her two kids. 728 00:55:51,872 --> 00:55:54,840 It all started by the feeling that we should do something... 729 00:55:55,264 --> 00:55:58,166 that will convert back to them. 730 00:55:58,242 --> 00:56:01,177 We'll make something out of garbage... 731 00:56:01,249 --> 00:56:02,711 and it would be sold for a lot of money. 732 00:56:02,881 --> 00:56:08,119 And it will become something they would put their hands on to help them. 733 00:56:08,194 --> 00:56:12,450 And in the end, they won't say: "Vik did it. 734 00:56:12,514 --> 00:56:13,016 Right. 735 00:56:13,314 --> 00:56:14,362 - We did it. - Right. 736 00:56:28,261 --> 00:56:30,595 I had just arrived from the bank and given the money to Gloria. 737 00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:35,164 I was standing by the door and I saw him 738 00:56:36,261 --> 00:56:38,334 and another man coming towards us with a pointed gun. 739 00:56:39,014 --> 00:56:40,541 They told us not to move. 740 00:56:41,061 --> 00:56:43,615 And they took everybody's wages. 741 00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:45,859 How much money was there? 742 00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:49,315 Six... US$6,000. 743 00:56:54,888 --> 00:56:57,735 I keep asking myself if it's worth it. 744 00:57:00,488 --> 00:57:01,536 And the comission? 745 00:57:02,057 --> 00:57:08,735 Sometimes I just feel like giving up on all of this. 746 00:57:12,329 --> 00:57:13,758 I don't want to be here anymore. 747 00:57:43,309 --> 00:57:45,197 The presents are this small. 748 00:57:56,142 --> 00:58:04,174 Try making it gradually darker from here to here, does that make sense? 749 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,295 Good work everyone. 750 00:58:44,148 --> 00:58:45,076 It came out beautifully! 751 00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:48,458 That's not garbage, it's recyclable material, it's money. 752 00:58:49,013 --> 00:58:49,809 A lot of money. 753 00:59:08,246 --> 00:59:10,418 Oh man that's crazy. 754 00:59:10,839 --> 00:59:12,781 It looks exactly like me. 755 00:59:13,624 --> 00:59:15,413 Oh, my! Man! 756 00:59:16,855 --> 00:59:19,475 I never imagined I'd become a work of art. 757 00:59:23,385 --> 00:59:24,246 Take a look. 758 01:00:14,718 --> 01:00:15,384 See? 759 01:00:15,903 --> 01:00:16,670 That's me? 760 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:19,485 Yes ma'am, that's your arm. 761 01:00:21,919 --> 01:00:23,327 It's this photo right here. 762 01:00:23,456 --> 01:00:24,736 You're looking in that direction... 763 01:00:24,736 --> 01:00:26,394 - that's your arm. - I see. 764 01:00:26,464 --> 01:00:29,116 Everything is made out of recyclable materials from the landfill. 765 01:00:29,472 --> 01:00:32,058 I see. How charming! 766 01:00:33,794 --> 01:00:35,681 It's so well done. Excuse me while I have a look over here. 767 01:00:35,681 --> 01:00:37,754 - Come on, come on, look. - My God. 768 01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:41,665 Let's see if I understand it right. 769 01:00:41,731 --> 01:00:43,356 Oh yes. I understand! 770 01:00:44,322 --> 01:00:45,500 Here's the arm. 771 01:00:46,082 --> 01:00:47,489 I understand. 772 01:00:51,363 --> 01:00:52,541 It's all recyclable materials. 773 01:01:07,333 --> 01:01:08,064 Look at this. 774 01:01:13,446 --> 01:01:14,949 As far as you can see. 775 01:01:14,949 --> 01:01:16,614 You see huge buildings. 776 01:01:16,614 --> 01:01:18,523 It becomes sort of a textural thing. 777 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:19,971 You lose that sense of scale. 778 01:01:20,038 --> 01:01:21,479 It starts to look small... 779 01:01:21,479 --> 01:01:22,788 and like it's just like hair. 780 01:01:23,815 --> 01:01:25,059 It's not a pretty place. 781 01:01:25,384 --> 01:01:27,423 Except when you look from very far away. 782 01:01:30,728 --> 01:01:32,288 This is where I grew up. 783 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,785 Every time we talk about some friend... 784 01:01:35,785 --> 01:01:36,457 that lived here... 785 01:01:36,457 --> 01:01:37,634 then we say "oh he died!" 786 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,902 So many of them died. 787 01:01:40,329 --> 01:01:42,057 They died from drug traffic... 788 01:01:42,057 --> 01:01:43,781 or they died from all kinds of stuff. 789 01:01:45,257 --> 01:01:47,049 That used to be my room... 790 01:01:47,049 --> 01:01:48,130 when I was a kid. 791 01:01:48,906 --> 01:01:50,466 Now it's just the guest room. 792 01:01:51,754 --> 01:01:54,314 There was always a lot of humidity on the walls... 793 01:01:54,314 --> 01:01:57,511 because Sao Paolo is very rainy all the time. 794 01:01:57,611 --> 01:01:59,105 I used to have my bed here... 795 01:01:59,274 --> 01:02:02,571 and there were all these stains. 796 01:02:03,243 --> 01:02:05,131 I used to make a diary... 797 01:02:05,196 --> 01:02:06,985 of how the stains would develop. 798 01:02:08,428 --> 01:02:10,567 This used to be a very rough neighborhood. 799 01:02:10,956 --> 01:02:13,345 Now it's becoming sort of a low... 800 01:02:14,668 --> 01:02:17,538 low middle class neighborhood. 801 01:02:18,125 --> 01:02:19,021 But it's safe... 802 01:02:19,021 --> 01:02:21,160 and people can live here decently. 803 01:02:21,613 --> 01:02:23,272 I was never... 804 01:02:24,974 --> 01:02:26,403 ashamed of being poor. 805 01:02:26,606 --> 01:02:29,705 And I was always proud of my parents. 806 01:02:31,887 --> 01:02:36,710 I bought this lot in 1963, and I built this house with difficulty. 807 01:02:37,615 --> 01:02:41,510 When I moved here it was dirt, there were no paved roads, nothing. 808 01:02:41,648 --> 01:02:46,023 There was no running water, no sewage. 809 01:02:47,025 --> 01:02:49,447 Thanks God, now it's the opposite. Today we have everything we need. 810 01:02:49,809 --> 01:02:57,131 We got here with some difficulty, but with dignity. 811 01:02:59,666 --> 01:03:01,095 My grandmother brought me up... 812 01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:02,414 because my mother... 813 01:03:02,739 --> 01:03:04,331 had to work at the phone company. 814 01:03:04,658 --> 01:03:06,317 And my father he worked at night... 815 01:03:06,387 --> 01:03:07,913 sometimes he worked two shifts. 816 01:03:08,435 --> 01:03:09,613 This is Ana Rocha... 817 01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:11,443 the most important woman... 818 01:03:11,443 --> 01:03:12,371 in my life. 819 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:15,409 She is 93 years old. 820 01:03:17,108 --> 01:03:19,345 I told them you were 70 years old. 821 01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:20,780 That's right. 822 01:03:47,767 --> 01:03:50,321 I'm getting stiff from lying in this position. 823 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,483 Artists have to suffer, don't you know? 824 01:03:55,193 --> 01:03:57,429 Who told you that, Vik? 825 01:03:57,496 --> 01:03:59,225 Honey, I just know. I'm on the inside now. 826 01:03:59,225 --> 01:04:01,657 Man, you're becoming an artist. 827 01:04:01,657 --> 01:04:03,064 It's all Vik's fault. 828 01:04:03,930 --> 01:04:07,225 Vik's made you conceited, Vik and Fabio. 829 01:04:07,994 --> 01:04:09,817 That's what they keep saying at home. 830 01:04:12,379 --> 01:04:14,037 It changed a lot of things for me. 831 01:04:14,139 --> 01:04:17,968 I don't see myself I the trash anymore. 832 01:04:18,779 --> 01:04:19,575 I really don't. 833 01:04:28,317 --> 01:04:29,145 I don't know. 834 01:04:33,724 --> 01:04:35,186 I don't want to go back to the garbage. I don't. 835 01:04:42,910 --> 01:04:50,367 I told Fabio: Just let me stay. Even if I only get US$150 a month. 836 01:04:50,367 --> 01:04:51,829 But please just let me stay here. 837 01:04:52,255 --> 01:04:55,223 I don't want to go back to the garbage. 838 01:04:59,232 --> 01:05:00,312 A little more in profile. 839 01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:07,957 The sad story is that I lost my son when he was three years old. 840 01:05:08,834 --> 01:05:12,182 I saw my son die when he was three years old. 841 01:05:13,058 --> 01:05:15,196 I was at the hospital with him for three days. 842 01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:17,152 I saw him dying. 843 01:05:18,178 --> 01:05:20,480 Breathing his last breaths and everything. 844 01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,819 He had acute pneumonia. 845 01:05:22,819 --> 01:05:25,786 He was throwing up little pieces of his lungs. 846 01:05:28,899 --> 01:05:33,178 They called me to identify my son's body. It was on top of a stone. 847 01:05:33,668 --> 01:05:36,897 It was wrapped in black plastic... 848 01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:41,090 with a big sign with his name, Carlos Igor. 849 01:05:41,861 --> 01:05:43,941 I fell over, I fainted. 850 01:05:43,941 --> 01:05:47,651 I couldn't believe that it was my son. 851 01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:51,811 I asked them to take the plastic off because he was too hot. 852 01:05:53,574 --> 01:05:57,316 After that my husband left me and he took my daughter away from me. 853 01:05:57,799 --> 01:06:01,956 She's eight now, when my son died she was two. 854 01:06:02,023 --> 01:06:04,445 I never saw her again. Not since she was two. 855 01:06:04,648 --> 01:06:06,536 I forgot my life, I forgot everything, 856 01:06:06,536 --> 01:06:08,327 I forgot that I had a life, a house, everything. 857 01:06:08,327 --> 01:06:09,953 I started going out all the time. 858 01:06:10,312 --> 01:06:11,971 The only thing I didn't do was do drugs, thank God. 859 01:06:12,168 --> 01:06:15,945 But I started going out and drinking and getting wasted. 860 01:06:15,945 --> 01:06:18,247 I started drinking moonshine all the time. 861 01:06:20,746 --> 01:06:24,543 My son was so beautiful, he was very beautiful. 862 01:06:24,618 --> 01:06:25,927 I lost the last photograph I had of him. 863 01:06:25,994 --> 01:06:28,166 It was in my wallet that was stolen. 864 01:06:29,258 --> 01:06:30,987 But I don't forget anything. 865 01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:33,158 I don't forget the tiniest details. 866 01:06:33,707 --> 01:06:34,988 At the morgue, 867 01:06:34,988 --> 01:06:37,540 there was a little ant crawling on his face because of the flowers. 868 01:06:37,676 --> 01:06:40,556 I made a scene to get that ant off my son's body. 869 01:06:40,556 --> 01:06:44,964 I don't forget a single detail not a single, single one. 870 01:06:47,852 --> 01:06:49,446 - Come my dear. - Thank you. 871 01:06:50,893 --> 01:06:52,584 I'll print a photograph for you. 872 01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:55,972 No. 873 01:06:57,677 --> 01:06:59,850 Isis, you're not supposed to cry. 874 01:06:59,917 --> 01:07:00,615 Come here. 875 01:07:01,390 --> 01:07:02,218 Thank you. 876 01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,388 - Did you like it? - Yes. 877 01:07:05,454 --> 01:07:07,364 Remember that first day at Jardim Gramacho? 878 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,591 Did you think that that lunatic... 879 01:07:08,591 --> 01:07:10,446 with the camera was going to do something like this? 880 01:07:12,367 --> 01:07:13,862 Not in my wildest dreams. 881 01:07:14,383 --> 01:07:16,042 I think we have to be careful... 882 01:07:16,112 --> 01:07:18,534 because I really can see already... 883 01:07:18,736 --> 01:07:22,664 how delicate the whole situation of having them there... 884 01:07:22,737 --> 01:07:23,441 is for them. 885 01:07:23,441 --> 01:07:24,389 For their minds. 886 01:07:24,689 --> 01:07:27,439 They totally forgot about Gramacho. 887 01:07:27,504 --> 01:07:28,453 They don't want to go back. 888 01:07:28,593 --> 01:07:31,725 At the beginning at least I had the impression... 889 01:07:32,178 --> 01:07:33,639 and now I think this is wrong... 890 01:07:33,714 --> 01:07:34,990 that they were happy there. 891 01:07:35,634 --> 01:07:37,266 And I think that it has a lot to do with denial. 892 01:07:37,266 --> 01:07:40,081 I think that is where you reach the point where you think about... 893 01:07:40,339 --> 01:07:42,313 should you take them to London? 894 01:07:42,387 --> 01:07:45,933 I think it's quite a... It's a super delicate question. 895 01:07:46,003 --> 01:07:49,200 If you are starting to change them already... 896 01:07:49,395 --> 01:07:51,087 just bringing them to the other studio... 897 01:07:51,155 --> 01:07:53,205 just involving them in a different lifestyle... 898 01:07:53,205 --> 01:07:54,000 in Rio... 899 01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,271 what's going to happen to them once you take them... 900 01:07:56,341 --> 01:07:57,770 once you put them on a plane? 901 01:07:58,005 --> 01:08:01,136 You were saying oh this is going to mess with their minds. 902 01:08:01,685 --> 01:08:03,278 Well, maybe... 903 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:05,935 their minds need to be messed up with. 904 01:08:06,102 --> 01:08:07,381 But if take them... 905 01:08:07,381 --> 01:08:10,455 and say hello life is different... 906 01:08:10,455 --> 01:08:11,884 you can do this, you could do that... 907 01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:13,494 Is it realistic enough... 908 01:08:13,494 --> 01:08:15,863 What can they do... 909 01:08:15,863 --> 01:08:17,587 with that afterwards here? 910 01:08:17,655 --> 01:08:20,247 It is really hard for me to imagine doing something... 911 01:08:20,247 --> 01:08:22,549 that would do much damage to them. 912 01:08:22,616 --> 01:08:25,136 Do worse than what has been done to them already. 913 01:08:25,623 --> 01:08:28,722 Why do you have to take somebody's life and change it forever? 914 01:08:28,793 --> 01:08:31,065 As long as you think the person can cope with it. 915 01:08:31,065 --> 01:08:31,697 Afterwards. 916 01:08:31,769 --> 01:08:35,730 But if you are not sure the person can deal with it... 917 01:08:35,801 --> 01:08:36,921 People are fragile. 918 01:08:36,921 --> 01:08:38,170 It is my responsibility. 919 01:08:38,170 --> 01:08:40,308 That's what I think. 920 01:08:40,537 --> 01:08:42,234 Your responsibility. 921 01:08:42,234 --> 01:08:42,932 But let me answer that. 922 01:08:43,001 --> 01:08:44,017 Let me talk. 923 01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:45,104 Let me answer that! 924 01:08:45,146 --> 01:08:46,129 You don't let me talk. 925 01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:47,674 You're saying it is not my responsibility... 926 01:08:47,674 --> 01:08:48,955 He doesn't let me talk! 927 01:08:48,955 --> 01:08:49,620 I am saying it is. 928 01:08:49,691 --> 01:08:51,898 Let me for one moment... 929 01:08:51,898 --> 01:08:53,175 think about something else here. 930 01:08:53,275 --> 01:08:57,211 These guys are going to the studio... 931 01:08:57,211 --> 01:08:57,877 and they are saying... 932 01:08:57,948 --> 01:08:59,671 "I don't want to go back to Gramacho." 933 01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:02,427 Is that something bad one way or another? 934 01:09:02,493 --> 01:09:03,354 No that's good. 935 01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:04,532 Isn't this good? 936 01:09:04,605 --> 01:09:06,493 Maybe they will have to go and they will have to think... 937 01:09:06,493 --> 01:09:08,184 of a plan to get out of there. 938 01:09:08,541 --> 01:09:10,810 They get to see another reality. 939 01:09:10,909 --> 01:09:13,014 And that changes their way of thinking. 940 01:09:14,237 --> 01:09:17,533 It's hard for me. 941 01:09:17,598 --> 01:09:18,972 It changes their way of thinking. 942 01:09:19,038 --> 01:09:19,572 It does. 943 01:09:19,583 --> 01:09:21,208 For some people it changes their way of thinking... 944 01:09:21,278 --> 01:09:22,078 for some people... 945 01:09:22,078 --> 01:09:23,257 they just go to bed better... 946 01:09:23,326 --> 01:09:24,700 because they think they did something. 947 01:09:30,207 --> 01:09:33,339 I don't think if I was a catador in Jardim Gramacho... 948 01:09:33,696 --> 01:09:37,755 and somebody said to me listen do you want to come do this thing... 949 01:09:37,824 --> 01:09:38,807 work two weeks... 950 01:09:38,881 --> 01:09:39,904 in an artists studio... 951 01:09:39,904 --> 01:09:41,279 making a portrait of yourself... 952 01:09:41,761 --> 01:09:44,761 and by the way we may take you to a foreign country... 953 01:09:45,153 --> 01:09:46,714 but at the end of all of this... 954 01:09:47,074 --> 01:09:48,056 you'll be back here... 955 01:09:48,513 --> 01:09:49,594 collecting garbage... 956 01:09:49,665 --> 01:09:50,713 would you like to come? 957 01:09:52,129 --> 01:09:53,722 I know that I would say yes. 958 01:09:59,555 --> 01:10:00,155 Got it. 959 01:10:01,187 --> 01:10:03,074 A year of garbage has gone by. 960 01:10:06,083 --> 01:10:06,782 Let's go. 961 01:10:10,116 --> 01:10:14,689 Here's wisdom a plenty, nineteen is not twenty. 962 01:10:15,045 --> 01:10:16,736 99 is not 100. 963 01:10:18,693 --> 01:10:19,489 Hi Vik. 964 01:10:19,717 --> 01:10:20,863 It's the Marat that's going? 965 01:10:22,342 --> 01:10:23,716 It's going to be great. 966 01:10:24,358 --> 01:10:29,694 I'm already dreaming about being there. 967 01:10:31,463 --> 01:10:34,812 I'm going to London, and you're not. 968 01:10:58,281 --> 01:11:00,070 Hey what are you doing here man? 969 01:11:02,826 --> 01:11:04,648 Check out that long hair! 970 01:11:15,371 --> 01:11:16,517 There's so much excess. 971 01:11:18,477 --> 01:11:22,372 There's so much excess that it becomes art. 972 01:11:27,405 --> 01:11:28,779 Check out the garbage bag. 973 01:11:33,998 --> 01:11:35,492 Except you can't open it, it's made of bronze. 974 01:11:36,879 --> 01:11:39,563 Painted bronze. 975 01:11:40,719 --> 01:11:43,086 Can you tell what's in there? 976 01:11:43,151 --> 01:11:48,617 There are definitely yogurt cups, hearts of palm. 977 01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,431 Some boxes. 978 01:11:51,695 --> 01:11:57,359 Looks like someone bought a new cell phone and threw away the box. 979 01:11:57,552 --> 01:12:02,026 - It looks like I could just pick it up. - It's great. 980 01:12:02,096 --> 01:12:04,486 This was made by a British artist named Gavin Turk. 981 01:12:05,649 --> 01:12:08,050 This guy is a really great artist too. 982 01:12:08,050 --> 01:12:09,457 He used to sleep on the streets. 983 01:12:09,938 --> 01:12:12,207 His name is Jean-Michel Basquiat. 984 01:12:12,914 --> 01:12:19,571 This was done by the guy who is the most expensive living artist, 985 01:12:19,571 --> 01:12:20,520 Damien Hirst. 986 01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:23,787 It's a pharmacy. 987 01:12:23,860 --> 01:12:26,064 Yeah, just drugs on a shelf. 988 01:12:26,356 --> 01:12:27,249 Just drugs. 989 01:12:29,332 --> 01:12:32,814 It will probably go for about one million dollars. 990 01:12:34,069 --> 01:12:36,436 Dermatological cream. 991 01:12:40,278 --> 01:12:41,707 It is a very fine work. 992 01:12:41,782 --> 01:12:43,797 There is strong demand for works... 993 01:12:43,797 --> 01:12:45,107 by Vik Muniz. 994 01:12:45,238 --> 01:12:47,660 So I do hope obviously that his risk... 995 01:12:47,767 --> 01:12:48,912 is going to pay off. 996 01:12:49,335 --> 01:12:50,382 It's going to work out. 997 01:12:50,647 --> 01:12:51,703 Let� see. 998 01:12:51,703 --> 01:12:52,499 It's going to work, come on. 999 01:12:54,263 --> 01:12:56,759 It's a very bold step... 1000 01:12:56,759 --> 01:12:57,742 for Vik Muniz... 1001 01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,480 to consign a work... 1002 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:00,942 directly to an auction. 1003 01:13:01,176 --> 01:13:02,103 In the past... 1004 01:13:02,264 --> 01:13:03,344 artists would go through... 1005 01:13:03,512 --> 01:13:04,888 what you call... 1006 01:13:04,888 --> 01:13:06,072 the primary market. 1007 01:13:06,072 --> 01:13:07,960 They would be sold for the first time... 1008 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:08,757 in a gallery. 1009 01:13:10,937 --> 01:13:11,569 Thank you. 1010 01:13:11,993 --> 01:13:14,546 Lot number 225... 1011 01:13:15,097 --> 01:13:16,854 Nine Multi-colored Marilyns... 1012 01:13:17,114 --> 01:13:18,292 by Andy Warhol 1013 01:13:18,714 --> 01:13:21,274 Are you nervous? I'm really nervous. 1014 01:13:21,274 --> 01:13:23,706 Even when Botafogo plays for the championship. 1015 01:13:23,706 --> 01:13:25,397 I don't get this nervous. 1016 01:13:25,786 --> 01:13:26,419 Hold on. 1017 01:13:26,523 --> 01:13:27,254 Last chance. 1018 01:13:27,707 --> 01:13:29,308 Sold. What's your number? 1019 01:13:29,308 --> 01:13:30,617 12... 5 1020 01:13:30,683 --> 01:13:31,545 Thank you so much. 1021 01:13:32,060 --> 01:13:33,948 It's now, it's now. 1022 01:13:33,948 --> 01:13:37,244 Lot number 272. 1023 01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:40,566 The great work by Vik Muniz. 1024 01:13:40,797 --> 01:13:42,739 Mahrat Sebasti�o... 1025 01:13:42,812 --> 01:13:44,187 Pictures of Garbage 1026 01:13:44,285 --> 01:13:46,423 And we will start this... 1027 01:13:46,557 --> 01:13:48,565 at ten thousand pounds. 1028 01:13:48,637 --> 01:13:50,645 10 thousand pound. 1029 01:13:51,006 --> 01:13:53,078 12 thousand pounds. 1030 01:13:53,182 --> 01:13:55,287 14 thousand pounds. 1031 01:13:55,358 --> 01:13:56,307 16 thousand pounds. 1032 01:13:56,383 --> 01:13:57,146 18 thousand pounds. 1033 01:13:57,214 --> 01:13:58,075 20 thousand pounds. 1034 01:13:58,143 --> 01:13:58,972 At the far back now. 1035 01:13:59,071 --> 01:14:00,566 20 thousand pounds. 1036 01:14:00,639 --> 01:14:01,533 20 thousand pounds 1037 01:14:01,791 --> 01:14:03,036 22 thousand pounds. 1038 01:14:03,103 --> 01:14:03,647 There is a new bit 1039 01:14:03,647 --> 01:14:04,727 25 thousand pounds. 1040 01:14:04,832 --> 01:14:05,846 25 thousand pounds. 1041 01:14:05,919 --> 01:14:06,781 Against you, Jenny. 1042 01:14:06,848 --> 01:14:07,862 At 25 thousand. 1043 01:14:07,936 --> 01:14:08,764 28 thousand pounds. 1044 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,040 At 28 thousand. 1045 01:14:10,112 --> 01:14:11,328 It's against Diego now... 1046 01:14:11,328 --> 01:14:13,025 at 28 thousand pounds. 1047 01:14:13,025 --> 01:14:15,033 It is at the far back of the room... 1048 01:14:15,104 --> 01:14:17,406 at 28 thousand pounds. 1049 01:14:18,049 --> 01:14:20,023 Sold. 1050 01:14:28,578 --> 01:14:30,750 The most important thing is what you're going to do with this. 1051 01:14:30,818 --> 01:14:36,765 It was all worth it. Everything I did up until now was really worth it. 1052 01:14:38,212 --> 01:14:40,034 Why do you think you are here? 1053 01:14:43,203 --> 01:14:46,619 Because once a friend and I had a dream of creating an association. 1054 01:14:47,525 --> 01:14:48,702 We created the association. 1055 01:14:48,773 --> 01:14:52,450 It was a crazy dream. Nobody believed in us. 1056 01:14:53,509 --> 01:14:54,915 Not even my family. 1057 01:14:56,678 --> 01:14:58,052 Nobody believed in me. 1058 01:15:00,358 --> 01:15:01,765 This is only the beginning Ti�o. 1059 01:15:04,454 --> 01:15:05,916 This is only the beginning. 1060 01:15:11,016 --> 01:15:12,674 I am so happy. 1061 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:13,767 Are you happy? 1062 01:15:14,023 --> 01:15:18,431 God was so good to me, so wonderful. 1063 01:15:18,504 --> 01:15:21,821 You're the strong one. You are doing everything. 1064 01:15:23,913 --> 01:15:24,513 Mom. 1065 01:15:27,242 --> 01:15:28,703 We sold it mom. 1066 01:15:30,441 --> 01:15:32,994 We sold it for US$50,000. 1067 01:15:34,858 --> 01:15:36,352 US$50,000. 1068 01:15:37,994 --> 01:15:40,645 I feel like a pop star. 1069 01:15:43,403 --> 01:15:44,166 Full. 1070 01:15:46,155 --> 01:15:46,854 Yeah. 1071 01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:05,450 Now presenting Lenny Kravitz. 1072 01:17:10,261 --> 01:17:12,148 I want to propose a toast to my boss. 1073 01:17:12,629 --> 01:17:13,971 - Thank you. - Thank you. 1074 01:17:15,798 --> 01:17:22,477 Careful. This woman is red hot. 1075 01:17:22,582 --> 01:17:23,728 Tell me what's changed for you. 1076 01:17:24,662 --> 01:17:26,321 I was married and now I am separated. 1077 01:17:27,607 --> 01:17:28,851 But isn't that bad? 1078 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,512 Not at all. It's wonderful. 1079 01:17:30,808 --> 01:17:33,558 I started to see myself. 1080 01:17:33,688 --> 01:17:35,445 Your own beauty? 1081 01:17:35,511 --> 01:17:36,886 No as a person really. 1082 01:17:36,952 --> 01:17:39,506 Because before I was just like a little mule. 1083 01:17:40,505 --> 01:17:44,629 This job was great. It was really good and important to me. 1084 01:17:44,761 --> 01:17:46,222 I knew how much I made. 1085 01:17:46,777 --> 01:17:52,015 We would weigh the material every day. 1086 01:17:52,186 --> 01:17:56,659 We supposedly worked together, but my share was always less. 1087 01:17:56,731 --> 01:17:59,798 He thought I should be submissive. 1088 01:18:02,138 --> 01:18:03,797 But it doesn't work like that. 1089 01:18:04,315 --> 01:18:06,170 That was the biggest change in my life. 1090 01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:09,267 That's what this job brought to me. 1091 01:18:09,756 --> 01:18:11,000 The will to change. 1092 01:18:11,548 --> 01:18:14,647 So that's the story, this work brought me this realization. 1093 01:18:20,701 --> 01:18:26,266 What did you think of modern art before you went to the auction? 1094 01:18:26,718 --> 01:18:29,337 I used to think it was crap. 1095 01:18:32,895 --> 01:18:34,105 Why'd you think it was crap? 1096 01:18:34,176 --> 01:18:36,281 Because I think a lot of things aren't really art. 1097 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,229 Why don't you think it's art? Because you don't get it? 1098 01:18:39,295 --> 01:18:42,460 Because I don't get it and it's totally meaningless. 1099 01:18:42,527 --> 01:18:44,600 But do you think you have to get it, for it to be art? 1100 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,866 I think it has to communicate something at least. 1101 01:18:49,025 --> 01:18:52,440 After you told me the story about... 1102 01:18:54,369 --> 01:18:55,482 Jean-Michel. 1103 01:18:55,552 --> 01:18:56,600 Jean-Michel Basquiat. 1104 01:18:56,673 --> 01:19:00,353 Yeah, I started liking his stuff a lot more. 1105 01:19:00,353 --> 01:19:04,314 I began to understand his kind of sinister style. 1106 01:19:06,082 --> 01:19:09,825 It's a bit childish, like monsters. 1107 01:19:09,891 --> 01:19:12,280 I started to understand it and I liked it. 1108 01:19:12,419 --> 01:19:17,341 But if you're saying you liked it better after you understood it... 1109 01:19:17,477 --> 01:19:21,338 then maybe we just don't like things we don't understand. 1110 01:19:21,956 --> 01:19:25,787 Of course, you can dislike something because you haven't tried it. 1111 01:19:26,053 --> 01:19:28,390 For example, you were always trying to explain what you were doing... 1112 01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:29,567 but I never understood. 1113 01:19:30,277 --> 01:19:31,389 Until you saw it? 1114 01:19:31,462 --> 01:19:34,145 I only understood it when Fabio brought me up here. 1115 01:19:34,726 --> 01:19:38,917 Then I got what you crazy people were up to. 1116 01:19:39,782 --> 01:19:40,646 Then I really got it. 1117 01:19:40,646 --> 01:19:42,983 The crazy people are the ones who buy it. 1118 01:19:42,983 --> 01:19:44,926 They're not crazy. It's beautiful. 1119 01:19:45,895 --> 01:19:47,618 I'd buy it. 1120 01:19:48,392 --> 01:19:50,148 I'll buy it someday. I'll buy my picture back. 1121 01:20:36,653 --> 01:20:38,793 - Bye Betania. - Bye. 1122 01:20:43,886 --> 01:20:45,774 Hello. 1123 01:20:47,662 --> 01:20:49,605 You look like you're getting married. 1124 01:20:51,086 --> 01:20:52,363 Who would marry me? 1125 01:21:05,105 --> 01:21:05,933 That's it. 1126 01:21:06,833 --> 01:21:07,760 Watch the glass. 1127 01:21:08,112 --> 01:21:09,574 Oh my God. 1128 01:21:10,545 --> 01:21:13,841 Look, it's me. 1129 01:21:15,537 --> 01:21:16,682 So good. 1130 01:21:17,586 --> 01:21:18,993 I did the iron, remember? 1131 01:21:19,602 --> 01:21:21,294 I did this. 1132 01:21:21,362 --> 01:21:22,607 I did this. 1133 01:21:22,995 --> 01:21:24,009 Look it's Zumbi. 1134 01:21:24,083 --> 01:21:25,609 It's so beautiful. 1135 01:21:25,907 --> 01:21:28,558 Suelen. It's so vibrant. 1136 01:21:28,627 --> 01:21:29,161 Look it's you. 1137 01:21:31,315 --> 01:21:34,131 Check out the profile. 1138 01:21:35,348 --> 01:21:36,176 It's beautiful. 1139 01:21:36,564 --> 01:21:38,005 Check out, Auntie. 1140 01:21:38,005 --> 01:21:40,209 I did this. 1141 01:21:40,309 --> 01:21:42,382 - You made the pot. - I did this. 1142 01:21:50,678 --> 01:21:52,685 I was a picker at Jardim Gramacho. 1143 01:21:52,758 --> 01:21:55,027 I was picking garbage when they asked me to work with them. 1144 01:21:55,126 --> 01:21:57,811 They liked my look, my style. 1145 01:21:57,975 --> 01:22:00,822 At that point, I didn't even know what this was. 1146 01:22:00,888 --> 01:22:04,816 It's really worthwhile to work on behalf of the pickers... 1147 01:22:05,112 --> 01:22:07,926 to become recognized as an official sector... 1148 01:22:07,991 --> 01:22:09,104 of the recyclable materials industry. 1149 01:22:09,176 --> 01:22:12,249 And it's also worthwhile becoming a work of art. 1150 01:22:12,249 --> 01:22:15,063 We support ourselves with this material. 1151 01:22:15,673 --> 01:22:17,712 And we managed to transform that material into art... 1152 01:22:17,977 --> 01:22:22,767 and into the opportunity to be in the Museum of Modern Art. 1153 01:22:22,841 --> 01:22:24,532 I've never been to a museum. 1154 01:22:24,889 --> 01:22:27,792 I never dreamed there would be a picture of me in a museum. 1155 01:22:27,866 --> 01:22:30,452 Sometimes we see ourselves as so small... 1156 01:22:30,522 --> 01:22:33,937 but people out there see us as so big, so beautiful. 1157 01:22:35,355 --> 01:22:38,006 There she is. You look so fancy. 1158 01:22:38,076 --> 01:22:39,024 Are you happy? 1159 01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:40,376 Very happy. 1160 01:22:43,644 --> 01:22:46,961 Don't cry, Sister. Now's the time to be happy. 1161 01:22:51,549 --> 01:22:53,437 I'd rather want everything and have nothing... 1162 01:22:53,437 --> 01:22:56,187 than have everything and want nothing. 1163 01:22:56,734 --> 01:23:02,004 Because at least when you want something your life has a meaning, 1164 01:23:02,622 --> 01:23:04,891 it's worthwhile. 1165 01:23:05,471 --> 01:23:08,667 From the moment you think you have everything 1166 01:23:08,735 --> 01:23:12,794 you have to search for meaning in other things. 1167 01:23:13,183 --> 01:23:16,282 I spent half my life wanting everything and having nothing. 1168 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,699 And now I have everything and I don't want anything. 1169 01:23:22,913 --> 01:23:25,597 These days I'm starting to see things in a simpler way. 1170 01:23:27,457 --> 01:23:32,192 I don't have as much material ambition as I used to. 1171 01:23:36,098 --> 01:23:39,579 When I was poor I only wanted material things. 1172 01:23:39,875 --> 01:23:40,987 I just wanted to have things. 1173 01:23:41,218 --> 01:23:45,342 I had to buy a lot of crap to get rid of that complex. 1174 01:23:53,989 --> 01:23:55,615 I knew that I could do the work. 1175 01:23:56,548 --> 01:23:59,141 Bt I did not count as being as involved... 1176 01:23:59,141 --> 01:24:03,103 with the people that I was working with as I did. 1177 01:24:03,942 --> 01:24:05,852 It just was impossible not to. 1178 01:24:06,726 --> 01:24:08,417 I thought I could just go there... 1179 01:24:08,486 --> 01:24:10,502 and paint Jardim Gramacho... 1180 01:24:10,502 --> 01:24:12,607 like Cezanne went to paint... 1181 01:24:12,839 --> 01:24:14,310 Monte Saint-Victoire. 1182 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:17,507 You know be cool about it. 1183 01:24:17,895 --> 01:24:20,034 And try to just do my work... 1184 01:24:20,104 --> 01:24:22,045 and look at it as a representation. 1185 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,981 It's not. 1186 01:24:24,328 --> 01:24:25,637 It's a lot more than that. 1187 01:24:25,704 --> 01:24:27,908 Because it has it's human side... 1188 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,372 that a picture can not really translate. 1189 01:24:32,489 --> 01:24:33,417 It could be me. 1190 01:24:34,953 --> 01:24:37,257 I mean from the stories... 1191 01:24:37,257 --> 01:24:38,566 these people tell... 1192 01:24:38,794 --> 01:24:42,885 a lot of them they were low middle class people... 1193 01:24:43,082 --> 01:24:45,766 that for some unfortunate event... 1194 01:24:45,802 --> 01:24:48,999 they just ended up having to go there and live in the garbage. 1195 01:24:49,579 --> 01:24:51,783 I was born in a low... 1196 01:24:51,851 --> 01:24:53,477 middle class house hold in Brazil. 1197 01:24:53,931 --> 01:24:56,233 If something had happened to my parents... 1198 01:24:56,907 --> 01:24:59,493 I could be led to a life like that. 1199 01:25:01,197 --> 01:25:03,847 If you can put yourself in their own shoes... 1200 01:25:04,012 --> 01:25:05,638 if your living life... 1201 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:08,359 and figuring out what to do to just continue living... 1202 01:25:08,557 --> 01:25:09,539 it's very hard. 1203 01:25:09,613 --> 01:25:10,628 But on the other hand... 1204 01:25:10,701 --> 01:25:12,044 when you see the appetite for life... 1205 01:25:12,110 --> 01:25:13,190 these people have... 1206 01:25:13,870 --> 01:25:15,626 and the way they carry themselves... 1207 01:25:15,694 --> 01:25:17,255 it inspires you. 1208 01:25:32,624 --> 01:25:34,599 I start thinking about... 1209 01:25:34,672 --> 01:25:36,272 how to help people and all of a sudden... 1210 01:25:36,272 --> 01:25:37,962 I feel very arrogant. 1211 01:25:38,033 --> 01:25:39,691 Who am I to help anybody? 1212 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,040 Because in the end... 1213 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,310 I feel like I am being helped more than they are. 1214 01:25:46,322 --> 01:25:48,525 Even if everything went wrong... 1215 01:25:49,106 --> 01:25:50,600 you could still be like them. 1216 01:25:51,537 --> 01:25:52,366 And they're beautiful. 1217 01:25:52,435 --> 01:25:53,961 They're great people. 1218 01:25:57,139 --> 01:25:59,081 They just weren't very lucky... 1219 01:25:59,826 --> 01:26:01,321 but we're going to change that. 1220 01:26:04,371 --> 01:26:06,160 I can't believe it. 1221 01:26:07,796 --> 01:26:09,290 What's this, man? 1222 01:26:10,452 --> 01:26:14,544 Hang this on these humble walls, this work of art? 1223 01:26:16,052 --> 01:26:20,592 You can't even hang a picture right. 1224 01:26:22,838 --> 01:26:24,048 Check it out. 1225 01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:25,775 It's your dad. 1226 01:26:26,326 --> 01:26:26,870 That's it. 1227 01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:27,885 That's beautiful. 1228 01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:35,443 Right next to my mother-in-law. 1229 01:26:37,943 --> 01:26:41,588 Look who's it is. 1230 01:26:42,968 --> 01:26:44,245 Is it you? 1231 01:26:48,825 --> 01:26:49,839 I have to get a nail. 1232 01:27:00,634 --> 01:27:01,779 I'm shaking. 1233 01:27:11,227 --> 01:27:13,464 It's so beautiful. It's me, it's me. 1234 01:27:13,948 --> 01:27:14,744 I love it. 1235 01:27:19,036 --> 01:27:21,208 You have no idea what this means to me. 1236 01:27:27,165 --> 01:27:32,861 When I went to work there, I was too ashamed to tell anybody. 1237 01:27:32,990 --> 01:27:37,213 I tried to hide it from my family the best I could. 1238 01:27:37,343 --> 01:27:38,652 After I worked with Vik Muniz... 1239 01:27:38,718 --> 01:27:41,850 I went to everybody and told them I worked at the landfill. 1240 01:27:41,918 --> 01:27:45,596 It was one of life's consequences. 1241 01:27:46,688 --> 01:27:48,116 And I was no longer ashamed. 1242 01:27:48,607 --> 01:27:52,537 This image has traveled all over. To China, Japan. 1243 01:27:52,607 --> 01:27:56,055 I didn't go, but it did. I'm famous out there. 1244 01:27:56,256 --> 01:27:59,104 When I saw it being made, it was very big. 1245 01:27:59,169 --> 01:28:02,104 Now it got smaller. 1246 01:28:02,785 --> 01:28:06,015 In the studio it looked huge. 1247 01:28:06,369 --> 01:28:09,753 See if it's good. Here? Here? 1248 01:28:13,442 --> 01:28:14,686 Don't scratch my picture. 1249 01:28:14,755 --> 01:28:16,161 The back doesn't matter. 1250 01:28:19,907 --> 01:28:21,118 You did a good job Vik. 1251 01:28:21,187 --> 01:28:22,916 Now you're famous in Santa Cruz. 1252 01:28:22,916 --> 01:28:24,378 They're talking about you here. 1253 01:28:25,957 --> 01:28:29,852 - Did you do that? - Yes, with everyone's help. 1254 01:28:31,396 --> 01:28:33,569 Remember that big pot I had? 1255 01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:35,972 That's the one they used. 1256 01:28:35,972 --> 01:28:39,269 You know how I became famous all over the world? 1257 01:28:39,334 --> 01:28:41,952 Inside the garbage. 1258 01:28:42,214 --> 01:28:46,109 I started there almost thirty years ago. 1259 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:47,238 I like it there. 1260 01:28:47,302 --> 01:28:49,383 My life began there, thank God. 1261 01:28:49,383 --> 01:28:51,620 I'm famous worldwide because of that place. 1262 01:28:51,847 --> 01:28:53,341 That's where everything started for me. 1263 01:30:59,926 --> 01:31:05,077 He is President of the Association of Garbage Pickers of Jardim Gramacho. 1264 01:31:05,527 --> 01:31:08,789 And his portrait was a big success at an auction in London. 1265 01:31:08,951 --> 01:31:09,965 Ti�o Santos. 1266 01:31:23,288 --> 01:31:24,881 At what age did you start working? 1267 01:31:25,273 --> 01:31:26,352 Since I was 11. 1268 01:31:26,968 --> 01:31:30,198 - Since you were 11. At the landfill? - Yes, at the landfill. 1269 01:31:30,265 --> 01:31:31,760 - Can I just correct you on one point? - Of course. 1270 01:31:31,833 --> 01:31:34,255 We are not pickers of garbage, we are pickers of recyclable materials. 1271 01:31:34,331 --> 01:31:37,429 Garbage can't be reused, whereas recyclable materials can. 96791