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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,802 --> 00:00:03,902 Narrator: A distress signal is overheard from deep in space. 2 00:00:03,904 --> 00:00:06,338 Podlaskaya: Sounded like she was talking to somebody. 3 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,340 Narrator: Authorities deny it ever happened. 4 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:11,877 The soviets were anxious to cover up some of their mistakes. 5 00:00:11,879 --> 00:00:14,780 Narrator: Voices of the dead torment soldiers in vietnam. 6 00:00:14,782 --> 00:00:17,750 Very much like somebody coming from the beyond. 7 00:00:17,752 --> 00:00:20,352 Narrator: Do these spirits have a message for the living? 8 00:00:20,354 --> 00:00:21,387 Dr. Kislenko: He tells them, 9 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,255 "it's time to leave before you die." 10 00:00:23,257 --> 00:00:25,991 Narrator: Massive thunderclaps come out of nowhere, 11 00:00:25,993 --> 00:00:27,793 But there is no storm in sight. 12 00:00:27,795 --> 00:00:29,194 I mean, you got to run for the hills 13 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:31,196 When you hear something like that. 14 00:00:31,198 --> 00:00:33,232 Narrator: Endless streams of data, 15 00:00:33,234 --> 00:00:36,168 Information bombarding the planet from within 16 00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:39,204 And from the furthest stretches of the universe -- 17 00:00:39,206 --> 00:00:42,408 What messages do these phantom signals hold? 18 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:45,411 -- Captions by vitac -- www.Vitac.Com 19 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:48,414 Captions paid for by discovery communications 20 00:00:48,416 --> 00:00:49,815 ♪♪ 21 00:00:49,817 --> 00:00:52,317 1960 Italy. 22 00:00:52,319 --> 00:00:55,220 Battista brothers achille, a cardiologist, 23 00:00:55,222 --> 00:00:57,723 And giovanni, a forensic scientist, 24 00:00:57,725 --> 00:00:59,725 Build their own radio listening station 25 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:02,094 In an abandoned world war ii bunker 26 00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:04,897 Using scavenged and borrowed equipment. 27 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,999 They claim to have intercepted communications 28 00:01:07,001 --> 00:01:11,403 Of russian and u.S. Astronauts to their ground controls. 29 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:15,107 Though intriguing, most of the broadcasts are routine. 30 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:19,344 But then something else, something chilling. 31 00:01:19,346 --> 00:01:21,780 The battista brothers had multiple claims 32 00:01:21,782 --> 00:01:24,116 That they had a tracking station 33 00:01:24,118 --> 00:01:26,185 Which gave them the ability to track 34 00:01:26,187 --> 00:01:30,456 Low earth orbiting satellites or manned space travel. 35 00:01:30,458 --> 00:01:32,591 Among some of their larger claims, 36 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:35,761 They had a recording of what seemed to be 37 00:01:35,763 --> 00:01:39,631 The last words of a soviet cosmonaut. 38 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:42,568 [ woman speaking indistinctly ] 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,272 According to their claim, 40 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:51,243 The spaceship was flying away from earth in a trajectory 41 00:01:51,245 --> 00:01:53,312 That didn't take them across the horizon, 42 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:57,583 Just pointing away so the signal kind of just slowly died out. 43 00:01:57,585 --> 00:02:00,486 Among other things, they had what sounded like a heartbeat, 44 00:02:00,488 --> 00:02:03,088 Sounded like someone breathing, potentially, 45 00:02:03,090 --> 00:02:06,758 And there was also, I believe, a transmitting s.O.S. Signal 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,728 That didn't have the doppler effect. 47 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,664 So it means it was traveling away from earth 48 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:16,001 Because it kept getting quieter and quieter and quieter. 49 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:18,437 Narrator: The brothers claim this secret communication 50 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:20,973 Is the last transmission of a cosmonaut 51 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:25,344 Trapped in a doomed spacecraft floating helplessly in space. 52 00:02:25,346 --> 00:02:28,780 The soviet government denies the existence of any manned missions 53 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:32,818 Prior to the flight of yuri gagarin in 1961. 54 00:02:32,820 --> 00:02:34,820 But rumors of early space flights 55 00:02:34,822 --> 00:02:37,322 Ending in disaster haunt the soviets. 56 00:02:37,324 --> 00:02:39,158 Nass: Right, so I guess the concerning thing 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,759 For a lot of people at the time 58 00:02:40,761 --> 00:02:43,495 Is that we're in a situation where the soviets 59 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:45,697 Are potentially putting people into space 60 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:47,766 In a kind of undocumented fashion. 61 00:02:47,768 --> 00:02:50,836 If that were the case, then it would be a cover-up. 62 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:53,505 Dr. Kislenko: The idea that the russians would lose cosmonauts 63 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:55,841 As part of their training program in general 64 00:02:55,843 --> 00:02:58,544 And then specifically in space is plausible. 65 00:02:58,546 --> 00:03:00,746 It's not out of the realm in part because 66 00:03:00,748 --> 00:03:03,615 We don't know everything from soviet archives. 67 00:03:03,617 --> 00:03:07,186 The space race was one of the most competitive times 68 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:10,556 In u.S. History and russian history. 69 00:03:10,558 --> 00:03:13,825 And what drove that in many ways was the competition 70 00:03:13,827 --> 00:03:15,494 Between the russian space program 71 00:03:15,496 --> 00:03:17,029 And the american space program 72 00:03:17,031 --> 00:03:19,932 To demonstrate the technological capacity 73 00:03:19,934 --> 00:03:22,100 To be able to send humans to space. 74 00:03:22,102 --> 00:03:23,969 Again, the russians beat the americans 75 00:03:23,971 --> 00:03:26,438 By literally probably a month or so. 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,807 Dr. Kislenko: If you could be the first to conquer space, 77 00:03:28,809 --> 00:03:32,744 It reinforces the idea that your state has a tremendous amount 78 00:03:32,746 --> 00:03:35,647 Of potential capacity and integrity to it. 79 00:03:35,649 --> 00:03:38,417 It was a tough time because you were looking for those firsts, 80 00:03:38,419 --> 00:03:40,285 You know, the first spacewalk, 81 00:03:40,287 --> 00:03:43,622 Dr. Kislenko: The soviet union was always an enormously secretive society 82 00:03:43,624 --> 00:03:46,491 Of keeping all information to a very bare minimum 83 00:03:46,493 --> 00:03:49,161 In closely guarded hands to preserve this idea 84 00:03:49,163 --> 00:03:52,164 That the ideological experiment that was the soviet union 85 00:03:52,166 --> 00:03:54,366 Was undefeatable, that it was perfect. 86 00:03:54,368 --> 00:03:56,501 But we have no real corresponding evidence 87 00:03:56,503 --> 00:03:59,538 In terms of documents, even defectors that came out. 88 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:01,773 We lack that sort of smoking gun, as it were, 89 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:05,143 To say definitively these guys were in space. 90 00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:06,979 Narrator: But if the recordings are real, 91 00:04:06,981 --> 00:04:09,181 The brothers have evidence that russia launched 92 00:04:09,183 --> 00:04:13,385 Two or more manned space flights prior to gagarin. 93 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:16,955 If they're not, where do these transmissions come from? 94 00:04:16,957 --> 00:04:19,791 Is this a distress call from somewhere else? 95 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,394 Whether or not people were eavesdropping and able 96 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:24,796 To hear something different, I don't know. 97 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:27,633 Narrator: Between 1960 and 1964, 98 00:04:27,635 --> 00:04:30,669 The brothers supposedly record thousands of hours 99 00:04:30,671 --> 00:04:33,105 Of both telemetry and communications 100 00:04:33,107 --> 00:04:36,108 From missions including sputnik, vostok, 101 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:38,710 And even the u.S. Mission explorer. 102 00:04:38,712 --> 00:04:42,080 The soviets dismiss the battista brothers' claim as a hoax. 103 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:45,250 But still, the haunting russian voice of the distress call 104 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:47,319 Was not so easily forgotten. 105 00:04:47,321 --> 00:04:49,921 The distinct things that I was able to catch 106 00:04:49,923 --> 00:04:51,690 On the first try -- 107 00:04:51,692 --> 00:04:53,158 She was counting down. 108 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,061 She was saying, "three, four, five, three, four, five." 109 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:59,665 She also said, "okay, okay," 110 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:00,966 The word that you use 111 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:03,402 When you respond to somebody talking to you, 112 00:05:03,404 --> 00:05:05,170 And you acknowledge that you understand 113 00:05:05,172 --> 00:05:06,405 What they're saying. 114 00:05:06,407 --> 00:05:08,307 Based on the tone of her voice, 115 00:05:08,309 --> 00:05:11,309 It sounds like she was listening and responding. 116 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:16,615 So it wasn't just her speaking independently of anybody else. 117 00:05:16,617 --> 00:05:19,885 It sounded like it was within the context of a dialogue. 118 00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:21,753 In the middle of the clip, 119 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:24,222 That's when she was most agitated. 120 00:05:24,224 --> 00:05:26,591 In her tone, it didn't come out 121 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:30,462 That the distress was due to any kind of emergency 122 00:05:30,464 --> 00:05:32,297 Or unsafe situation. 123 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:33,965 I think it sounded more like 124 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:35,967 She was trying to reiterate something louder 125 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:37,903 Because she wants to be heard. 126 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:41,540 Narrator: A few years later, on July 20th, 1969, 127 00:05:41,542 --> 00:05:44,643 America would be the first and only nation 128 00:05:44,645 --> 00:05:47,079 To land a man on the moon. 129 00:05:47,081 --> 00:05:49,915 This incredible achievement inspired an event 130 00:05:49,917 --> 00:05:51,883 That would suddenly call into question 131 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:55,320 The soviet dismissal of the battista brothers' claims. 132 00:05:55,322 --> 00:05:58,857 A pair of amateur radio enthusiasts in kentucky 133 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:02,828 Are directly listening in on the highly anticipated mission. 134 00:06:02,830 --> 00:06:06,298 Larry baysinger, former military radio technician, 135 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:08,500 And journalist glenn rutherford 136 00:06:08,502 --> 00:06:13,238 Tapped the frequency of 12-watt radios using vhf radio. 137 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,376 They bury 6,000 square feet of copper plating in the backyard 138 00:06:17,378 --> 00:06:18,944 To ground the equipment. 139 00:06:18,946 --> 00:06:22,314 The antenna is made from chicken wire and aluminum, 140 00:06:22,316 --> 00:06:24,916 The radio receiver from a korean war tank 141 00:06:24,918 --> 00:06:27,152 Found at an army surplus store. 142 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:29,287 Baysinger makes some adjustments. 143 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:32,023 Aiming the antenna at the moon made more difficult 144 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:33,859 Because it's a cloudy night, 145 00:06:33,861 --> 00:06:37,929 They manage to record 35 minutes of the moon landing. 146 00:06:37,931 --> 00:06:39,865 By and large, we're just throwing signals 147 00:06:39,867 --> 00:06:41,666 Out into the air all the time. 148 00:06:41,668 --> 00:06:43,602 If you had the right equipment and set it up, 149 00:06:43,604 --> 00:06:45,036 You could intercept those signals 150 00:06:45,038 --> 00:06:49,574 And hear what was being said, at least by the astronauts 151 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:51,243 When they're talking back to earth. 152 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:54,379 Nass: He built his antenna basically with scratch-built material. 153 00:06:54,381 --> 00:06:57,015 He's using wood for some of the stabilizing arms. 154 00:06:57,017 --> 00:06:58,683 And from all of his effort, 155 00:06:58,685 --> 00:07:03,088 He was able to build a beam antenna for receiving signals 156 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:04,589 That were coming from the moon. 157 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:07,759 Back then, most of these transmissions were unencrypted. 158 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,529 They were just basically able to receive them 159 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:12,998 Using army surplus equipment. 160 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,935 Assuming that there was something in low earth orbit 161 00:07:16,937 --> 00:07:19,404 Or in a launch trajectory away from earth, 162 00:07:19,406 --> 00:07:21,573 And they had an appropriate transmitter 163 00:07:21,575 --> 00:07:23,074 Capable of reaching earth, 164 00:07:23,076 --> 00:07:26,111 I don't see any reason why that there couldn't be someone 165 00:07:26,113 --> 00:07:27,879 On the ground picking up those signals. 166 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:31,249 Narrator: The two listen in, amazed by their success 167 00:07:31,251 --> 00:07:34,085 As astronauts speak to president richard nixon 168 00:07:34,087 --> 00:07:37,055 And remark on the play of shadows on the lunar surface. 169 00:07:37,057 --> 00:07:40,125 So larry's listening to the vhs signal 170 00:07:40,127 --> 00:07:42,894 Directly from the moon, so he heard it first. 171 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:45,997 He heard it seconds ahead of when it got turned around 172 00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:48,066 By the news stations and sent out. 173 00:07:59,246 --> 00:08:02,013 Narrator: Is it conceivable that in the 1960s, 174 00:08:02,015 --> 00:08:03,315 Amateur equipment 175 00:08:03,317 --> 00:08:05,917 Assembled and monitored by casual civilians 176 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:09,721 Could pick up russian space program transmissions? 177 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:11,690 Nass: Radio, in a simplified description, 178 00:08:11,692 --> 00:08:15,594 Would be imparting information onto a radio signal 179 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:18,663 That you're using some kind of antenna to push out. 180 00:08:18,665 --> 00:08:23,001 Receiving would be the antenna is picking up the signal, 181 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,403 And that is then getting pushed out into the speaker 182 00:08:25,405 --> 00:08:27,105 That you're listening to, or the headphones. 183 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:28,807 Narrator: In the early space race years, 184 00:08:28,809 --> 00:08:31,476 The communication systems from the vostok mission 185 00:08:31,478 --> 00:08:34,546 Are based on vhf communications, 186 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:37,849 143.625 megahertz, 187 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:40,051 But also on shortwave communications 188 00:08:40,053 --> 00:08:41,720 Using strong transmitters 189 00:08:41,722 --> 00:08:45,457 Belonging to the ussr ministry of communications. 190 00:08:45,459 --> 00:08:49,694 Even today, 45 years after the end of the space race, 191 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:52,998 Radio frequencies are easily captured from space. 192 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,432 Nass: Just as a demonstration, 193 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:57,102 We can set up a simple antenna that doesn't even move, 194 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:58,470 And it will just pick up the signals 195 00:08:58,472 --> 00:09:00,472 That are being downlinked by the satellite. 196 00:09:00,474 --> 00:09:03,708 So right now, we're trying to catch the downlink 197 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,777 Of the upcoming noaa weather satellite path, 198 00:09:05,779 --> 00:09:07,512 Which goes from south to north. 199 00:09:07,514 --> 00:09:10,348 It's downlinking a rf stream that we're gonna pick up 200 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:12,551 And convert back into an image file 201 00:09:12,553 --> 00:09:14,853 Which we can see on the screen for weather patterns. 202 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:17,022 As the satellite's passing overhead, 203 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:20,358 It's basically going to be downlinking different images 204 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,194 That it's captured as it's gone over the world, 205 00:09:23,196 --> 00:09:25,530 Basically, to show interesting weather patterns 206 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:26,798 For the national weather service. 207 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,833 This is 137 megahertz, 208 00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:31,036 Which is the same space of frequencies 209 00:09:31,038 --> 00:09:34,072 That is used today by low earth orbiting satellites 210 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:37,309 And manned international space station-type satellites. 211 00:09:37,311 --> 00:09:40,345 Larry has a recording of an apollo mission. 212 00:09:40,347 --> 00:09:43,682 It is likely that the battistas could have recorded 213 00:09:43,684 --> 00:09:47,218 Something else which happened later 214 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:49,187 When technology improved a little bit 215 00:09:49,189 --> 00:09:51,356 During the cold war. 216 00:09:51,358 --> 00:09:54,893 Narrator: So if it is possible to intercept such a signal, 217 00:09:54,895 --> 00:09:57,729 Why are the soviets denying the entire existence 218 00:09:57,731 --> 00:09:59,898 Of the transmission and the event? 219 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:03,668 If you fail, it obviously casts a pall of doubt 220 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:05,036 Over whether or not 221 00:10:05,038 --> 00:10:07,606 You have the technological acumen that you claim to do. 222 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:09,007 Nass: At the same time, the soviets 223 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:10,909 Could just easily say, "eh, never happened." 224 00:10:10,911 --> 00:10:12,344 And that's exactly what they did, right? 225 00:10:12,346 --> 00:10:15,280 They said, "nope, we don't know anybody like that. 226 00:10:15,282 --> 00:10:17,515 We've never had anybody on the books like that. 227 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:19,451 Narrator: Were the phantom transmissions picked up 228 00:10:19,453 --> 00:10:20,752 By the battista brothers 229 00:10:20,754 --> 00:10:24,022 Really the dying words of a soviet cosmonaut? 230 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:27,359 In this cloak-and-dagger era, how far will the russians go 231 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:30,695 To make sure no one posed a risk to their plans? 232 00:10:32,899 --> 00:10:34,232 Narrator: 1960. 233 00:10:34,234 --> 00:10:36,901 Two italian brothers build a radio-listening station 234 00:10:36,903 --> 00:10:39,070 In an abandoned world war ii bunker, 235 00:10:39,072 --> 00:10:41,106 Claiming they've picked up russian space mission 236 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:42,540 Radio signals. 237 00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:44,509 But things take a much darker turn 238 00:10:44,511 --> 00:10:46,711 When they intercept what they describe 239 00:10:46,713 --> 00:10:49,114 As the dying words of a cosmonaut 240 00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:51,816 Trapped in a failing spacecraft. 241 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:57,088 [ woman speaking indistinctly ] 242 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:00,492 Dr. Proctor: I think the last thing that they ever would have imagined 243 00:11:00,494 --> 00:11:02,627 Is that they would pick up a transmission 244 00:11:02,629 --> 00:11:05,530 Of the last moments of someone's life in space. 245 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:07,999 Many people thought that there would be tragedies 246 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:09,200 Exploring space. 247 00:11:09,202 --> 00:11:11,403 Dr. Kislenko: People died on a fairly routine basis 248 00:11:11,405 --> 00:11:13,672 Because of technological and scientific error, 249 00:11:13,674 --> 00:11:15,707 Programing problems, pilot error, 250 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:16,975 Whatever you want to call it. 251 00:11:16,977 --> 00:11:18,943 I'm absolutely convinced soviet leaders at the time 252 00:11:18,945 --> 00:11:21,980 Were saying, "we cannot afford the public to understand 253 00:11:21,982 --> 00:11:23,314 That we make mistakes 254 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:24,916 Or that we're gonna own up to our mistakes, 255 00:11:24,918 --> 00:11:27,218 Because then anything's fair game." 256 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:29,954 Narrator: Recently declassified documents reveal the soviets 257 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:33,324 Are potentially covering up multiple cosmonaut injuries 258 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:36,294 And deaths -- more than previously thought. 259 00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:38,763 When we talk about the space race for either country, 260 00:11:38,765 --> 00:11:40,565 You're in a whole world of conspiracies. 261 00:11:40,567 --> 00:11:43,568 The so-called sochi six is rather notorious photograph 262 00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:47,405 Taken of the elite graduating class of soviet cosmonauts, 263 00:11:47,407 --> 00:11:50,442 And it has been doctored over time to remove some people 264 00:11:50,444 --> 00:11:54,779 From what I think originally was 11 astronauts down to 6. 265 00:11:54,781 --> 00:11:57,315 Narrator: Why are only some of the cosmonauts' faces 266 00:11:57,317 --> 00:12:00,118 Physically removed from these photos? 267 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,588 At the core of it is this notion that there were cosmonauts 268 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:05,857 Who died in orbital flight missions 269 00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:08,226 Before yuri gagarin in 1961. 270 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:10,195 This was not the first time the soviet union 271 00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:11,663 Had doctored photographs. 272 00:12:11,665 --> 00:12:13,832 It's not just that they died. Some of them never existed. 273 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:15,133 They're erased from history. 274 00:12:15,135 --> 00:12:17,368 And they do that to make it very clear 275 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:19,738 That there's one narrative in soviet history. 276 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,707 Any failings along the line of that official narrative 277 00:12:22,709 --> 00:12:25,276 Were seen to be either counter-revolutionary 278 00:12:25,278 --> 00:12:28,179 Or to challenge this notion of soviet supremacy. 279 00:12:28,181 --> 00:12:30,048 Narrator: With these and even more rumors 280 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:32,183 Haunting the soviet space program, 281 00:12:32,185 --> 00:12:35,186 What would be the repercussions of the cold war? 282 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:38,256 You can imagine the impact in a place like the soviet union 283 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:41,326 Where the same revelations aren't just gonna be sad 284 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:43,728 Or bring up questions about cost or, you know, 285 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:46,965 That it's gonna speak fundamentally to the regime. 286 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:51,136 If the russians had a mistake or something went wrong, 287 00:12:51,138 --> 00:12:53,304 They were not gonna let that out 288 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:55,340 Because it was all about success. 289 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:57,909 Doesn't take much to logic through that and say, 290 00:12:57,911 --> 00:12:59,444 "well, if you've made a mistake 291 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:01,546 And I can question your validity, 292 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:03,581 Then I'm gonna do it in a lot of other ways, 293 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:05,650 Like whether or not you should be the only party 294 00:13:05,652 --> 00:13:07,452 And whether or not you should be the government." 295 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:09,420 Narrator: Out of fear of appearing vulnerable, 296 00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:11,890 Could soviet government officials actually keep 297 00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:14,793 The deaths of cosmonauts completely covered up? 298 00:13:14,795 --> 00:13:16,928 There were a lot of things that the soviets did 299 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:18,496 That we still don't fully understand, 300 00:13:18,498 --> 00:13:21,065 Even with the release of documents and archives 301 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:23,301 And discussions with people in the period. 302 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:27,172 Nass: What bothers me the most about it is if it was a hoax, 303 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:29,674 Tracking that stuff, I find interesting enough. 304 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:31,309 It didn't have to be sensationalized 305 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:32,744 Into possibly a cover-up. 306 00:13:32,746 --> 00:13:34,846 Either it's bad because the soviets actually did 307 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,214 Cover something up, 308 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:38,783 Or you had these brothers that were possibly doing this 309 00:13:38,785 --> 00:13:40,552 For fame or some kind of attention. 310 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:41,719 Dr. Kislenko: We need more evidence. 311 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:43,655 We lack documentary evidence to suggest 312 00:13:43,657 --> 00:13:46,691 That any of the cosmonauts died in secret missions 313 00:13:46,693 --> 00:13:48,326 That were never announced to the public. 314 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,028 We have a couple of documents that say, 315 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:53,431 "let's keep soviet failures down to a minimum," 316 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:55,166 But that doesn't necessarily confirm 317 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:56,534 That the soviets were in space 318 00:13:56,536 --> 00:13:58,102 Before they say they were in space. 319 00:13:58,104 --> 00:14:01,206 Narrator: Though the iron curtain fell in 1991, 320 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:04,809 Many of the records remain classified or missing. 321 00:14:04,811 --> 00:14:07,345 I think any time you're engaged in this kind of, 322 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:11,683 You know, tremendous exploration of the unknown, 323 00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:14,385 There's going to be this kind of doubt. 324 00:14:14,387 --> 00:14:16,221 Narrator: We may never learn the full details 325 00:14:16,223 --> 00:14:18,056 Of the russian space program 326 00:14:18,058 --> 00:14:20,358 Or how many cosmonauts were lost, 327 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,993 But they will never be forgotten, 328 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:25,096 Due in large part to the early radio experiments 329 00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:26,898 Of the battista brothers. 330 00:14:31,438 --> 00:14:34,305 On the evening of February 10th, 1970, 331 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:36,207 In the jungles of vietnam, 332 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:40,445 A horrible wailing torments the people of hau niga province. 333 00:14:40,447 --> 00:14:43,915 [ howling and thumping ] 334 00:14:43,917 --> 00:14:50,955 ♪♪ 335 00:14:50,957 --> 00:14:52,757 The sounds of people screaming, 336 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:54,726 Crying, gongs banging, 337 00:14:54,728 --> 00:14:56,594 And a child calling for her father 338 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:58,162 Are followed by a clear message 339 00:14:58,164 --> 00:15:02,433 That came from the voice of a dead vietcong soldier. 340 00:15:02,435 --> 00:15:05,236 "my friends, I am dead." 341 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,972 Then a warning to his former brothers in arms 342 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:11,042 To turn back and give up the fight. 343 00:15:11,044 --> 00:15:12,343 Dr. Kislenko: Pretty scary. 344 00:15:12,345 --> 00:15:14,679 Very much like somebody coming from the beyond, 345 00:15:14,681 --> 00:15:16,915 In this particular case coming from hell. 346 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:18,182 He's wondering. 347 00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:21,052 He's basically, at least initially, unclear 348 00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:22,186 Whether he's alive or dead 349 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:23,955 And making a very emotional appeal 350 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:26,357 To fellow soldiers in the field 351 00:15:26,359 --> 00:15:28,226 To stop fighting before it's too late. 352 00:15:28,228 --> 00:15:31,396 Narrator: If the spirits of the dead can reach out to the living, 353 00:15:31,398 --> 00:15:33,898 Could the jungles of vietnam really be haunted 354 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:36,100 By the ghosts of their dead comrades? 355 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:37,602 Dr. Kislenko: It's very powerful. It is scary. 356 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:39,337 This is like the twilight zone. 357 00:15:39,339 --> 00:15:41,773 Narrator: Or could the horrible wailing sound 358 00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:44,575 That threatened to drive these men to madness 359 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,010 Have another meaning? 360 00:15:49,316 --> 00:15:50,648 Narrator: By the late 1960s, 361 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:53,618 The u.S. Is embroiled in a terrible war in vietnam. 362 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:56,721 Thousands of casualties are inflicted on both sides 363 00:15:56,723 --> 00:15:59,490 As the conflict spirals out of control. 364 00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:01,292 The conditions for this particular war 365 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:02,794 For both sides were horrific. 366 00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:04,228 If the jungle doesn't get you 367 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:07,298 With disease and rain and leeches and insects, 368 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:08,399 Obviously the enemy will. 369 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:10,568 And this was not easy warfare, 370 00:16:10,570 --> 00:16:13,371 Just sending in 3,000 tanks in a field. 371 00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:18,042 This was getting down and dirty in a very inhospitable jungle. 372 00:16:18,044 --> 00:16:20,645 So the vietcong soldier who was used to all the jungle sounds 373 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:21,946 And can sleep through it 374 00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:24,449 Is now hearing something they have no experience with. 375 00:16:24,451 --> 00:16:26,751 Dr. Kislenko: These things happened in the middle of the night. 376 00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:29,354 You know, you can imagine it's absolute silence, 377 00:16:29,356 --> 00:16:32,423 It's pitch dark, and then pretty much out of nowhere, 378 00:16:32,425 --> 00:16:35,193 You hear this dreadful sound echoing. 379 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:40,565 [ howling ] 380 00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:42,166 Dr. Fallah: You hear a sound. You look. 381 00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:44,435 You start saying, "is it there, is it there?" 382 00:16:44,437 --> 00:16:45,770 And then when there's nothing to see, 383 00:16:45,772 --> 00:16:48,906 Your mind starts trying to make sense of the world. 384 00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:50,274 So what could it be 385 00:16:50,276 --> 00:16:53,611 That you can hear but is invisible around you? 386 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:56,381 Narrator: It is the vietnamese belief that the dead must be buried 387 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:57,749 In their homeland, 388 00:16:57,751 --> 00:17:02,120 Or their soul will wander aimlessly in pain and suffering. 389 00:17:02,122 --> 00:17:04,255 So when you die, your soul goes, 390 00:17:04,257 --> 00:17:06,557 And that's why it has to be properly accounted for. 391 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,292 You need that burial to take place. 392 00:17:08,294 --> 00:17:11,662 It needs to be commemorated. It needs to be in your homeland. 393 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:14,265 And if it's not, your soul wanders. 394 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:18,569 And that is the worst hell on earth for vietnamese. 395 00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:21,139 Somewhat, I guess, to christians 396 00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,007 Worrying about being in limbo forever. 397 00:17:23,009 --> 00:17:26,177 Your cultural background goes a long way 398 00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:28,479 Into your normal everyday experience growing up, 399 00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:29,981 Which also goes a long way into 400 00:17:29,983 --> 00:17:31,649 How you make sense of the world around you. 401 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:34,118 Scorpio: It's a buddhist belief that you're bound to your homeland 402 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,420 And your family. 403 00:17:35,422 --> 00:17:36,521 You might have lived in the same village 404 00:17:36,523 --> 00:17:37,889 For five or six generations, 405 00:17:37,891 --> 00:17:41,092 So you have a very, very strong connection to that land. 406 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:42,894 Dr. Kislenko: And what they come to do is to, 407 00:17:42,896 --> 00:17:44,796 In effect, worship dead ancestors. 408 00:17:44,798 --> 00:17:47,165 They offer food as well as sometimes money 409 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:50,535 And other goods to the dead as a means of appeasing them 410 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:51,769 And honoring them. 411 00:17:51,771 --> 00:17:53,237 In the mind of a vietcong soldier, 412 00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:55,073 If you're hearing these voices, 413 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:56,908 There's already a cultural aspect 414 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:59,143 Where you expect to be 415 00:17:59,145 --> 00:18:01,512 More connected with the spirits in the world around you, 416 00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:03,481 That there's this idea there are spirits. 417 00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:06,084 These are profound beliefs in vietnamese religion 418 00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:07,985 And vietnamese culture. 419 00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:10,188 And that's a big part of what these boys 420 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:12,090 Fighting in the jungle believed in. 421 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:13,858 And then that might lead to this idea, 422 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:17,361 If you've grown up in a culture where there are more spirits, 423 00:18:17,363 --> 00:18:19,997 There are things you can't see in the world around you, 424 00:18:19,999 --> 00:18:23,668 That you might start attributing it to other things like that. 425 00:18:23,670 --> 00:18:26,437 Narrator: If these are the voices of departed soldiers, 426 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:29,574 What message are they trying to get across to the living? 427 00:18:29,576 --> 00:18:30,908 Dr. Fallah: These sounds that we're talking about 428 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,410 Weren't terribly clear to begin with. 429 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:35,313 They were a little hard to hear and understand 430 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:38,416 So that you've got this kind of series of possibilities 431 00:18:38,418 --> 00:18:40,118 For what that sound can be. 432 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,385 And then within a few seconds, 433 00:18:41,387 --> 00:18:43,588 They're talking to you as a person, 434 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:46,824 As a fellow soldier, asking you, "why are you fighting? 435 00:18:46,826 --> 00:18:49,360 Why are you still here? Why don't you go back home?" 436 00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,195 Dr. Fallah: A rational person who's rested 437 00:18:51,197 --> 00:18:53,297 Easily comes into, "well, these aren't real," 438 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:55,867 But they're in a stressful situation 439 00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:58,035 That causes that noise to increase 440 00:18:58,037 --> 00:19:00,605 And opens up the number of possibilities 441 00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:04,142 From their own memory and experience to draw upon. 442 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:05,910 Scorpio: If you combine their spiritualism 443 00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:09,847 And their belief system, I can easily understand 444 00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:11,716 That they would be in a state of confusion 445 00:19:11,718 --> 00:19:15,219 And totally believing that that's real. 446 00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:17,755 Narrator: The mysterious voice heard in the jungle appeals 447 00:19:17,757 --> 00:19:19,957 To his vietcong brothers. 448 00:19:19,959 --> 00:19:21,959 It tells them to go home. 449 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:24,162 "this is your chance to leave before you die 450 00:19:24,164 --> 00:19:25,630 And wander the earth 451 00:19:25,632 --> 00:19:27,732 Because there is no one to bury you." 452 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:31,035 Moaning, the groaning, the dialogue from a dead soldier 453 00:19:31,037 --> 00:19:32,770 Who you can identify with, 454 00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:34,105 And in the middle of the darkness, 455 00:19:34,107 --> 00:19:36,374 In the middle of a war which you know 456 00:19:36,376 --> 00:19:38,843 You have a pretty good likelihood of getting shot at 457 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:42,280 Or getting killed, that must have been terrifying. 458 00:19:42,282 --> 00:19:45,183 Arama: I don't know how I would have reacted myself 459 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:46,551 If I was one of those vietcong troops 460 00:19:46,553 --> 00:19:48,019 With their belief system. 461 00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:51,022 I think I might have run as fast as possible in a state of panic. 462 00:19:51,024 --> 00:19:53,224 Narrator: But even if just one soldier experienced 463 00:19:53,226 --> 00:19:55,126 Hearing a ghostly message, 464 00:19:55,128 --> 00:19:58,729 How could the same event be reported by an entire group? 465 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:03,067 So the idea of mass hysteria, when somebody is stressed out 466 00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:06,571 Or under some physiological change that they can't explain, 467 00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:10,141 Other people sometimes end up feeling the same way themselves. 468 00:20:10,143 --> 00:20:12,076 When you're sitting in a group of people, 469 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:16,247 You end up getting to an average emotional state 470 00:20:16,249 --> 00:20:17,882 Based on everybody involved. 471 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:20,751 So if everybody's anxiety raises a little, 472 00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:22,186 The average raises a little. 473 00:20:22,188 --> 00:20:24,121 You get this kind of infectiousness. 474 00:20:24,123 --> 00:20:27,758 When you have a lot of people starting to make that report, 475 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,261 Then you got to think that it's not about an individual. 476 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:34,966 It's not a single type of stressed person going crazy. 477 00:20:34,968 --> 00:20:37,401 It's more that there's got to be something else 478 00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,905 That everybody's experiencing such that a number of them 479 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:43,107 Experience it so strongly that they're willing to speak up 480 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:44,842 About it to everybody else around them. 481 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:48,779 So even the most educated and trained and scientific of us all 482 00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:51,015 Are suspect to that kind of fear factor. 483 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:52,350 Dr. Fallah: I do think that there's a lot 484 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,185 We don't understand in the world, 485 00:20:54,187 --> 00:20:56,887 And we don't entirely know what is going on. 486 00:20:56,889 --> 00:20:58,322 When we don't understand something, 487 00:20:58,324 --> 00:21:01,325 We have generally put it in the realm of the supernatural. 488 00:21:01,327 --> 00:21:03,661 Narrator: Could these be the voices of the dead pleading 489 00:21:03,663 --> 00:21:06,364 For their comrades to save themselves, 490 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:09,967 Or is there a darker origin to these recordings? 491 00:21:12,705 --> 00:21:14,038 Narrator: In the jungles of the vietnam war, 492 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,741 A horrible wailing torments the people of hau niga, 493 00:21:16,743 --> 00:21:18,643 The sounds of people screaming, 494 00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:20,845 Crying, gongs banging, 495 00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:23,080 And a child calling for her father 496 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,882 Are followed by a clear message 497 00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:28,152 From the voice of a dead vietcong soldier. 498 00:21:28,154 --> 00:21:30,221 "my friends, I am dead." 499 00:21:30,223 --> 00:21:31,489 Dr. Kislenko: If you're in the jungle at night, 500 00:21:31,491 --> 00:21:33,958 You hear horrifically ghostly sounds, 501 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,828 You hear moans, you hear groans, and then you hear somebody 502 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:40,231 Talking to you as if they're dead, 503 00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:42,566 Which makes you think, as a vietcong soldier 504 00:21:42,568 --> 00:21:45,202 That it's one of your comrades and, of course, 505 00:21:45,204 --> 00:21:47,438 Could be you at any particular moment. 506 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,007 Narrator: Are the jungles of vietnam haunted, 507 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:53,010 Or are there other forces at work? 508 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:55,980 Perhaps we can find a clue in the fact that the sounds 509 00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:59,550 Seem to start appearing at a specific time in the war. 510 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:02,420 I think the invading force obviously would have 511 00:22:02,422 --> 00:22:05,222 Had more technology and maybe bigger numbers. 512 00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:07,725 So that's probably helping their adrenaline a bit. 513 00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:10,661 But it might have been a false adrenaline in a sense, too, 514 00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:12,496 Because the vietcong troops -- 515 00:22:12,498 --> 00:22:15,199 They would have been totally accustomized 516 00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:17,401 And acclimatized to the surroundings, 517 00:22:17,403 --> 00:22:20,504 Easily 1,000% better than the americans. 518 00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:22,139 So you hear the sound in the woods, 519 00:22:22,141 --> 00:22:24,108 And you're in a ditch with your comrade, 520 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:25,509 And you're gonna look around first 521 00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:27,345 To see where it's coming from, because if you can see 522 00:22:27,347 --> 00:22:28,879 What it is, you can make sense of it. 523 00:22:28,881 --> 00:22:32,316 Then you start getting into increasing your stress levels 524 00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:33,784 And your concern about it. 525 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:35,486 Dr. Kislenko: So you are constantly afraid, 526 00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:38,489 And that's where the conditions are really ripe 527 00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:40,358 For messing with your mind. 528 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,159 And that's precisely where the americans come up 529 00:22:42,161 --> 00:22:43,861 With psychological operation. 530 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:45,363 Narrator: Ghost tape number 10 531 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,398 Is part of a recently declassified 532 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,867 U.S. Psychological warfare campaign 533 00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:52,336 Known as "operation wandering soul." 534 00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,405 Nass: So then we find out about ghost tape number 10, 535 00:22:54,407 --> 00:22:59,377 Which was basically a collection of voices in vietnamese 536 00:22:59,379 --> 00:23:02,213 Saying things like, "this is your ancestor. 537 00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:04,382 Stop doing what you're doing 'cause you're going to die." 538 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:05,783 Dr. Kislenko: There's a variety of messages. 539 00:23:05,785 --> 00:23:07,084 This is not just one. 540 00:23:07,086 --> 00:23:08,853 There are messages of pretty simple ones, right? 541 00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:11,389 "run away. Come to us. We're gonna win this war. 542 00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:12,556 You're fighting the americans 543 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:14,892 Who, you know, have superior technology 544 00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:16,394 And training, and they'll kill you." 545 00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:18,696 The one that's sort of most famous and most haunting 546 00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:21,232 Is this idea of, you know, the displaced soul. 547 00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:24,802 Various sources will tell you that it started in 1970, 548 00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:27,571 But there are historical records about using similar tapes 549 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:29,907 Much earlier than that in the 1960s. 550 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,976 Some will tell you it was only used in south vietnam, 551 00:23:31,978 --> 00:23:34,011 But we know for sure that they were used 552 00:23:34,013 --> 00:23:35,846 In places like laos and cambodia, too. 553 00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:37,581 Nass: Later, we find out that they, of course, 554 00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:39,350 Were using them with p.A. Speakers. 555 00:23:39,352 --> 00:23:41,685 They were connecting them onto helicopters 556 00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:43,320 And flying around areas 557 00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:46,190 That they thought there might have been the north vietnamese 558 00:23:46,192 --> 00:23:49,093 And using that in possibly an effective way, 559 00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:52,930 Although it's never been claimed by the north vietnamese 560 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,965 At all at that time or later historically 561 00:23:54,967 --> 00:23:56,967 From people who were fighting at the time 562 00:23:56,969 --> 00:24:00,004 That it had an effect of actually scaring them away 563 00:24:00,006 --> 00:24:01,405 From their course of action. 564 00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:03,240 Arama: If you combine their spiritualism 565 00:24:03,242 --> 00:24:04,775 And their belief system, 566 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:07,511 You'd be shocked at how people start to think 567 00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:09,613 And start to hallucinate. 568 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:12,483 Narrator: U.S. Engineers spend weeks recording eerie sounds 569 00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:14,518 And altered voices which pretend to be 570 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,587 Vietcong killed in action 571 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:19,623 For use in the operation with the intended purpose 572 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:23,027 Of instilling a sense of turmoil in the enemy. 573 00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:26,464 The resulting tape, dubbed "ghost tape number 10," 574 00:24:26,466 --> 00:24:29,533 Is played on loudspeakers outside u.S. Bases 575 00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:32,736 And sometimes from patrolling helicopters. 576 00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:35,940 The voices call on their descendants in the vietcong 577 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:38,976 To defect and cease fighting. 578 00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:41,278 Who would want to hear a ghost story 579 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,414 When you're in the middle of those conditions, right? 580 00:24:43,416 --> 00:24:46,350 It's like, you know, when you're a kid at a campfire 581 00:24:46,352 --> 00:24:48,719 And you get spooked by a ghost story. 582 00:24:48,721 --> 00:24:50,287 You know, this is ten times worse, right, 583 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:52,756 Because there's actually people out there trying to kill you. 584 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:55,226 It's this super-sensory overload 585 00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:57,461 Because you're not able to control it. 586 00:24:57,463 --> 00:24:58,996 When your body and your mind 587 00:24:58,998 --> 00:25:01,065 Has gone through that level of stress, 588 00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:03,167 You can't push things aside as easily 589 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,302 As you could otherwise, and it's those type 590 00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:07,338 Of environments that lead people to snap. 591 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:10,708 Arama: A big debate among survival experts 592 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:11,842 Is what's more important, 593 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:14,411 The psychological or the physiological? 594 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,814 I think most research points at the will to live 595 00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:18,983 In the psychological as the key, 596 00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:21,485 'cause the minute you panic, you're dead. 597 00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:24,989 Narrator: The stress of jungle combat conditions for the vietcong, 598 00:25:24,991 --> 00:25:27,024 Primarily sleep deprivation, 599 00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:30,294 May have also worn down their psychological defenses. 600 00:25:30,296 --> 00:25:35,900 When you have sleep deprivation, starvation, severe dehydration, 601 00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:38,502 Those all play into your psychology. 602 00:25:38,504 --> 00:25:41,071 When you're deprived of all the basic essentials 603 00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:42,840 For physiological survival, 604 00:25:42,842 --> 00:25:45,175 Your brain does go -- it goes wacky. 605 00:25:45,177 --> 00:25:48,779 But hardly any of the experts talk about sleep deprivation 606 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:51,282 Because it's so abstract. 607 00:25:51,284 --> 00:25:54,451 Sleep deprivation changes our control 608 00:25:54,453 --> 00:25:57,021 Or the steadiness in our brain. 609 00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:58,355 Normally, we kind of have a signal 610 00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:02,426 Where we vary in a small range when we're rested 611 00:26:02,428 --> 00:26:04,995 And have right nutrition. 612 00:26:04,997 --> 00:26:06,430 But when we're sleep-deprived, 613 00:26:06,432 --> 00:26:09,767 We get these high variabilities to everything going on. 614 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:12,770 And that means things that so far out of range 615 00:26:12,772 --> 00:26:14,238 From our normal experience, 616 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,940 You might think are really happening. 617 00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:18,709 Arama: And all of a sudden even the so-called expert 618 00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:20,978 Is hearing things and have no idea what it is, 619 00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:23,614 'cause they're hallucinating, they're delusional. 620 00:26:23,616 --> 00:26:25,916 Their mind's not gonna operate 621 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:27,785 The way a normal person's mind will. 622 00:26:27,787 --> 00:26:30,154 They're gonna be susceptible to suggestions. 623 00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:31,989 They could have psychotic breaks. 624 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:33,457 They could exhibit hallucinations 625 00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:34,792 Like schizophrenia. 626 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,661 Arama: Your body has to rest to replenish everything 627 00:26:37,663 --> 00:26:38,829 And make good decisions. 628 00:26:38,831 --> 00:26:40,664 So if you're seriously sleep-deprived, 629 00:26:40,666 --> 00:26:43,100 You're gonna make the worst choices. 630 00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,735 And that's what we call the domino effect, 631 00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:46,904 And it leads to worse choices and death. 632 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:50,007 The stress means every little thing 633 00:26:50,009 --> 00:26:53,277 Is going to have a major impact on you. 634 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,981 And how do I trust the men next to me in the war 635 00:26:56,983 --> 00:26:58,882 If they're starting to go crazy? 636 00:26:58,884 --> 00:27:01,518 Narrator: "wandering soul" is part of the official effort 637 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,088 To convince the vietcong to surrender. 638 00:27:04,090 --> 00:27:06,056 Unofficially, the american troops 639 00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:08,492 Tried many different psyops tactics 640 00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:10,561 In their attempt to accomplish this task. 641 00:27:10,563 --> 00:27:12,196 Dr. Kislenko: The american playing-card thing, 642 00:27:12,198 --> 00:27:14,431 Which is featured in many vietnam war-style movies, 643 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:15,866 Is the calling card for death. 644 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:18,002 Dr. Fallah: If you can win the battle of the mind 645 00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:20,304 Before you get into the physical battle, 646 00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:21,672 You're going to have an advantage. 647 00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:23,841 It's like, you know, the maori when they famously 648 00:27:23,843 --> 00:27:26,477 Go into battle doing their tribal dances, 649 00:27:26,479 --> 00:27:28,479 Making faces, right, at death. 650 00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:30,114 Dr. Fallah: The maori use the haka 651 00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:33,183 To try to intimidate their opponents 652 00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:34,551 Before engaging in battle. 653 00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:36,286 That sends a psychological signal 654 00:27:36,288 --> 00:27:37,955 About the kind of enemy you're fighting. 655 00:27:37,957 --> 00:27:39,556 Narrator: This isn't the only attempt 656 00:27:39,558 --> 00:27:43,227 By the american psyops division to terrify the north vietnamese 657 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:44,328 Into surrendering. 658 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:45,596 Dr. Kislenko: Very, very famously, 659 00:27:45,598 --> 00:27:47,831 One of the ghost tapes involves tiger sounds. 660 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,533 [ growls ] 661 00:27:49,535 --> 00:27:52,336 There are rumors that americans took a tiger scream 662 00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:53,671 And then put it on tape 663 00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:55,205 And then went out into the jungle, 664 00:27:55,207 --> 00:27:57,841 Having already circulated among soldiers 665 00:27:57,843 --> 00:27:59,677 The notion that they were tigers 666 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,478 And then later that night 667 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,348 Broadcast this manufactured tiger sound. 668 00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,583 [ tiger growls ] 669 00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:10,154 Narrator: So what is the impact of this psyops tactic? 670 00:28:10,156 --> 00:28:11,622 Arama: It was guaranteed there was an effect. 671 00:28:11,624 --> 00:28:14,158 I would say that the americans were very smart 672 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,127 To do what they did because there's a good possibility 673 00:28:17,129 --> 00:28:19,797 That it would have reduced the morale, 674 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,998 At the very least. 675 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,633 Dr. Kislenko: According to american documents, 676 00:28:22,635 --> 00:28:24,968 There were several thousand defectors 677 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:27,771 Over the course of the late 1960s and early '70s 678 00:28:27,773 --> 00:28:30,674 Under investigation revealed that they were at least in part 679 00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:32,643 Motivated by these ghost tapes. 680 00:28:32,645 --> 00:28:33,811 Narrator: While it's hard to measure 681 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,447 The success of operation wandering soul, 682 00:28:36,449 --> 00:28:39,016 The tapes undoubtably put fear in the hearts 683 00:28:39,018 --> 00:28:40,984 Of whoever heard them. 684 00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:43,687 Every night they played, the jungles of vietnam 685 00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:46,857 Came alive with the voices of the dead, 686 00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:49,793 Convincing some soldiers to put down their weapons 687 00:28:49,795 --> 00:28:51,995 And return home to their families. 688 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:58,435 November 14th, 2017. 689 00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:01,772 911 emergency lines are inundated with calls 690 00:29:01,774 --> 00:29:04,408 From 15 counties in alabama. 691 00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:06,977 Residents reported hearing a loud boom... 692 00:29:06,979 --> 00:29:10,314 [ boom ] 693 00:29:10,316 --> 00:29:12,716 ...Like an earthquake or a cannon... 694 00:29:12,718 --> 00:29:15,285 [ boom ] 695 00:29:15,287 --> 00:29:16,787 ...Coming from the sky. 696 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:20,324 I can't imagine how terrifying it would be to be standing here 697 00:29:20,326 --> 00:29:23,927 And suddenly hear a huge explosion or booming sound... 698 00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:26,997 [ boom ] 699 00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:28,165 ...And as I look around, 700 00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:29,767 Not being able to see the source of it. 701 00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:32,970 There's just this loud cracking boom. 702 00:29:32,972 --> 00:29:36,140 [ boom ] 703 00:29:36,142 --> 00:29:38,375 Witnesses describe what essentially 704 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:40,677 Sounds like a large cannon boom. 705 00:29:40,679 --> 00:29:43,213 [ boom ] 706 00:29:43,215 --> 00:29:46,383 Almost like an earthquake, but it's above. 707 00:29:46,385 --> 00:29:48,118 Narrator: The national weather service announced 708 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,753 That they couldn't explain it, 709 00:29:49,755 --> 00:29:53,323 As did the national geological survey and nasa. 710 00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:57,561 The massive boom didn't appear to have a natural source. 711 00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,897 [ boom ] 712 00:29:59,899 --> 00:30:01,732 What was it? 713 00:30:01,734 --> 00:30:04,701 The answer, it seemed, lay in a centuries-old phenomenon 714 00:30:04,703 --> 00:30:06,970 Known as skyquakes. 715 00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:10,808 Skyquakes are a phenomena where there's a very loud noise, 716 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:12,142 But when you look around, 717 00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:14,278 There's nothing obvious that's causing that noise. 718 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,848 The booms are extremely loud, so loud, in fact, 719 00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:19,583 That they often set off car alarms. 720 00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:22,352 [ car alarms blaring ] 721 00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:26,423 And you can imagine that people were like, "what was that?" 722 00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:28,325 What happens when there's thunder 723 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:30,394 But no clouds in the sky? 724 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:31,662 Where is that coming from? 725 00:30:31,664 --> 00:30:33,964 Narrator: What is behind these baffling sounds? 726 00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:36,567 Pre-science, people would have been terrified. 727 00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:39,136 They would have thought that it was a voice from god 728 00:30:39,138 --> 00:30:40,704 Or some kind of bad omen. 729 00:30:40,706 --> 00:30:43,841 A loud crack, a boom, a growl, a rumble, 730 00:30:43,843 --> 00:30:46,844 Some sudden, abrupt noise. 731 00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:49,279 It's just coming from somewhere out there. 732 00:30:49,281 --> 00:30:52,449 You can hear it distinctly, but you don't know why. 733 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:55,552 Narrator: Skyquakes appear to have no connection to the weather, 734 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:59,389 But could these behemoth sounds be coming from the earth? 735 00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:03,727 Or are they the product of some unknown presence in the skies? 736 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:08,665 Narrator: Residents in 15 counties in alabama 737 00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:13,203 Flooded the 911 emergency system in November 2017, 738 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:16,907 Reporting mysterious thundering sounds coming from the sky. 739 00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:18,575 [ boom ] 740 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:22,312 The best explanation that can be found for the terrifying boom 741 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:25,916 Was that they were a mysterious phenomenon known as skyquakes. 742 00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:27,651 [ boom ] 743 00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:30,053 They are heard in every part of the planet. 744 00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:31,655 They strike out of nowhere. 745 00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:33,724 [ boom ] 746 00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:36,159 There is no apparent link to the source. 747 00:31:36,161 --> 00:31:38,896 What theories could possibly explain their origin? 748 00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:41,632 One of the more compelling explanations I have heard 749 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:44,701 Is that these skyquakes are caused by earthquakes. 750 00:31:44,703 --> 00:31:46,069 Mckinnon: The earth is moving all of the time. 751 00:31:46,071 --> 00:31:47,537 Tectonic plates on the surface of the earth 752 00:31:47,539 --> 00:31:49,473 Are moving about the same rate your fingernails grow, 753 00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:51,241 So they're creeping along. 754 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,077 They get stuck, and they break. 755 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,847 It's kind of like when you snap your fingers, 756 00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:59,383 You're building up the stress tension 757 00:31:59,385 --> 00:32:01,685 Until it overcomes the friction 758 00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:04,321 And you hear it in the form of a snap. 759 00:32:04,323 --> 00:32:07,591 So you can imagine taking something like rock 760 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:09,393 That is fused together 761 00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:11,495 That's under a tremendous amount of strain 762 00:32:11,497 --> 00:32:13,797 And then slipping and breaking. 763 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,199 A majority of the energy released by earthquakes 764 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:18,435 Are actually released by shallow earthquakes, 765 00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:19,670 Which are earthquakes that are happening 766 00:32:19,672 --> 00:32:22,205 Closer to the earth's surface 767 00:32:22,207 --> 00:32:24,074 Than ones that we typically think of. 768 00:32:24,076 --> 00:32:27,678 It can be possible that an earthquake will occur, 769 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,548 And we won't feel it, but it can produce a sound. 770 00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:33,917 An earthquake generates a couple of different types of waves. 771 00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:36,653 One of them is a "p" wave, a pressure wave, 772 00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:38,455 Which is like if you're splashing water 773 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,190 And it moves and pushes, 774 00:32:40,192 --> 00:32:42,859 The next one that follows is the "s" wave, 775 00:32:42,861 --> 00:32:45,128 The shear wave, that's moving back and forth. 776 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:46,830 So if you take a shoelace and wiggle it, 777 00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:49,199 That would be the shape of a shear wave. 778 00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:52,235 When pressure waves are moving the earth, 779 00:32:52,237 --> 00:32:55,539 That earth is then vibrating almost like the skin of a drum 780 00:32:55,541 --> 00:32:57,274 Or the membrane of a loud speaker 781 00:32:57,276 --> 00:33:00,010 And causing the air to also vibrate. 782 00:33:00,012 --> 00:33:03,780 It transmits that wave from earth to air, 783 00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:05,916 Which then people can hear. 784 00:33:05,918 --> 00:33:08,552 That means that the bigger the earthquake is, 785 00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:11,788 The bigger the amplitude of that "p" wave, 786 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:13,557 The louder it's going to be. 787 00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,392 Things like how cold or how warm 788 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:16,927 Or how much moisture in the air can affect 789 00:33:16,929 --> 00:33:18,996 How sound propagates through the air. 790 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:21,298 Mckinnon: Sound propagates in all sorts of different ways, 791 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:23,667 And it can travel through rock. 792 00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:25,102 Rock doesn't block sound. 793 00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:27,070 In some ways, it can even amplify sound 794 00:33:27,072 --> 00:33:30,374 Depending what the frequencies are and what your geology is. 795 00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:33,543 The cool thing is that because sound is an energy 796 00:33:33,545 --> 00:33:35,112 And it's propagating out, 797 00:33:35,114 --> 00:33:38,215 It can be subject to the dynamics of the atmosphere. 798 00:33:38,217 --> 00:33:42,352 It can bounce those vibrations around and transmit them 799 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,454 Into places you wouldn't expect. 800 00:33:44,456 --> 00:33:47,224 If we use krakatoa as an example 801 00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:49,926 Of how you can have a distant phenomena 802 00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:52,462 And that sound under just the right conditions 803 00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:55,999 Travel what seems absurdly far, 804 00:33:56,001 --> 00:33:59,169 Then suddenly it starts getting a lot more plausible to look at 805 00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:02,539 Maybe it's some earthquake or landslide 806 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:06,977 Or eruption or meteor or explosion somewhere else 807 00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:08,612 That's under just the right conditions 808 00:34:08,614 --> 00:34:12,049 So that sound is traveling very, very, very far. 809 00:34:12,051 --> 00:34:14,518 Dr. Hayes: This is one possibility that has some merit, 810 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,186 Although my understanding is that it's harder 811 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:19,156 To track these ones and that they don't seem 812 00:34:19,158 --> 00:34:22,225 To follow typical patterns of earthquakes. 813 00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:25,395 Narrator: While this explanation would seem like an easy one, 814 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:27,998 It fails to explain how some skyquakes 815 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,700 Don't have seismic readings to accompany them. 816 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,070 Breaking the sound barrier could definitely create a boom 817 00:34:33,072 --> 00:34:35,372 Where you can't immediately tell what the source is. 818 00:34:35,374 --> 00:34:38,175 A sonic boom is when something is traveling faster 819 00:34:38,177 --> 00:34:40,143 Than the speed of sound, so instead of sound waves 820 00:34:40,145 --> 00:34:44,114 Just propagating out sort of in all directions, 821 00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:47,284 All the sound waves build up and it arrives at you at one time, 822 00:34:47,286 --> 00:34:51,054 So you get a very loud noise all at once. 823 00:34:51,056 --> 00:34:53,557 And it can be enough to rattle windows 824 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,294 And can travel over quite large distances, 825 00:34:57,296 --> 00:35:00,997 Narrator: Is human technology behind this bizarre phenomenon? 826 00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:05,135 People have heard skyquakes around the world for centuries. 827 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:06,937 Sonic booms are an interesting theory, 828 00:35:06,939 --> 00:35:08,505 But they don't really hold water 829 00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:12,175 Because there's been testimonies about skyquakes 830 00:35:12,177 --> 00:35:15,812 Going way back before jets were even invented. 831 00:35:15,814 --> 00:35:18,348 Narrator: But again, this theory has holes in it. 832 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:22,419 What could cause sonic booms in the centuries before jets? 833 00:35:22,421 --> 00:35:24,821 There must be something in the atmosphere 834 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:26,523 Creating this percussion. 835 00:35:26,525 --> 00:35:28,959 Sparling: The vast majority of objects 836 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:32,863 That do enter the atmosphere explode in the atmosphere. 837 00:35:32,865 --> 00:35:36,199 Often large meteors, if they do enter the atmosphere, 838 00:35:36,201 --> 00:35:38,401 They're entering at supersonic speeds. 839 00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:40,403 They produce sonic booms 840 00:35:40,405 --> 00:35:42,739 If they're large enough of immense proportions. 841 00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:46,743 Especially during the daytime when meteors enter 842 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:48,945 The earth's atmosphere, it's not always visible 843 00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:51,581 Because of the the sunlight in the bright sky. 844 00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:55,218 We don't see the the streak of light associated with it. 845 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:59,923 There is a potential for space objects to enter the atmosphere 846 00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:02,259 And cause a loud bang. 847 00:36:02,261 --> 00:36:04,294 Nothing makes it to the ground, 848 00:36:04,296 --> 00:36:06,630 But you would have -- if you were standing near it, 849 00:36:06,632 --> 00:36:09,166 You would have the perception of something exploding 850 00:36:09,168 --> 00:36:10,667 Or a huge bang above you, 851 00:36:10,669 --> 00:36:14,304 But no resulting cause would be visible. 852 00:36:14,306 --> 00:36:16,239 Dr. Hayes: That might be an explanation for some, 853 00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:18,842 But it just doesn't seem to account for all of them 854 00:36:18,844 --> 00:36:20,944 And for the diversity of them around the world. 855 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:23,180 The world is full of infinite possibilities, 856 00:36:23,182 --> 00:36:25,015 And all of science is trying to narrow down 857 00:36:25,017 --> 00:36:26,183 To the most likely. 858 00:36:26,185 --> 00:36:28,885 There may be an angle in skyquakes 859 00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:32,856 That we can relate to ufos or extraterrestrial visitation. 860 00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:35,825 There is a long history of people seeing ufos 861 00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:37,227 That vanish in the blink of an eye. 862 00:36:37,229 --> 00:36:39,462 Viggiani: And some ufos have been tracked 863 00:36:39,464 --> 00:36:42,265 At speeds of over 7,000 miles an hour. 864 00:36:42,267 --> 00:36:44,501 Dr. Hayes: I assume that if they are visiting earth, 865 00:36:44,503 --> 00:36:48,205 They've learned to exceed the sound of speed long ago, 866 00:36:48,207 --> 00:36:49,706 And this is not a problem for them. 867 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:53,076 Maybe they're playing around with the atmosphere. 868 00:36:53,078 --> 00:36:55,545 Maybe they're playing around with the physical reality 869 00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:56,746 Of what we see, 870 00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:58,248 And they're just creating weird effects. 871 00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:01,284 There's all kinds of things that might be accounting for that 872 00:37:01,286 --> 00:37:03,753 If you consider extraterrestrials 873 00:37:03,755 --> 00:37:05,622 As responsible for that. 874 00:37:05,624 --> 00:37:08,024 Narrator: When we hear something strange from above, 875 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,293 We look to the sky for answers. 876 00:37:10,295 --> 00:37:13,930 But is it possible the answers are right beneath our feet? 877 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:18,568 Narrator: Theories abound as to the origins 878 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:22,372 Of earth-shaking booms erupting from the sky. 879 00:37:22,374 --> 00:37:25,609 Some believe these sounds come from ufos. 880 00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:27,811 But is the real origin more earthly? 881 00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:30,347 Very few, if any, reports that I've ever read 882 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:33,283 Describe any loud sound as a result of a ufo. 883 00:37:33,285 --> 00:37:36,119 Dr. Hayes: At first it seems plausible maybe, 884 00:37:36,121 --> 00:37:37,988 Or it seems exciting or enticing. 885 00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:40,490 But when you really start to get into the mechanics of this 886 00:37:40,492 --> 00:37:42,359 And you get into the history of ufo sightings 887 00:37:42,361 --> 00:37:45,929 And what those usually actually comprise, 888 00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:47,364 They're quite different phenomena. 889 00:37:47,366 --> 00:37:49,566 And under those circumstances, you would think 890 00:37:49,568 --> 00:37:51,568 That there would be some displacement of air 891 00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:52,969 Or some sort of shockwave. 892 00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,538 But very few of the incidents that have reported to me 893 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:58,375 Have reported any kind of percussive sound at all. 894 00:37:58,377 --> 00:37:59,943 Narrator: If the source of this phenomena 895 00:37:59,945 --> 00:38:02,178 Does not originate in the skies, 896 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:06,549 Is the answer lying in wait for us at the bottom of the ocean? 897 00:38:06,551 --> 00:38:08,485 Most, or all, skyquake reports 898 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:11,288 Happen near a large body of water, 899 00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:14,157 Possibly because this helps the sound to travel. 900 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:15,692 You might think that there's nothing happening 901 00:38:15,694 --> 00:38:17,861 Below the surface of the ocean, 902 00:38:17,863 --> 00:38:20,764 But there's a tremendous amount of things happening. 903 00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:22,465 Mckinnon: All sorts of things are happening underneath 904 00:38:22,467 --> 00:38:23,900 The ocean surface at any time. 905 00:38:23,902 --> 00:38:25,735 We're only seeing the waves up at the top, 906 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:28,838 But underneath is an entire rich geologic world. 907 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,907 There are volcanic eruptions that happen underwater. 908 00:38:30,909 --> 00:38:33,243 There are earthquakes. There are landslides. 909 00:38:33,245 --> 00:38:35,612 There are pieces of volcanoes that break off, 910 00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:37,180 And you have a flank collapse. 911 00:38:37,182 --> 00:38:40,283 All of these things are happening underwater, 912 00:38:40,285 --> 00:38:44,187 And sound travels really well underwater. 913 00:38:44,189 --> 00:38:45,889 There's some layers of the ocean 914 00:38:45,891 --> 00:38:47,557 That conduct sound incredibly well. 915 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:51,528 They act almost as a wave guide, bouncing the signal along. 916 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,129 But the thing about that is 917 00:38:53,131 --> 00:38:56,700 It would also register as an earthquake. 918 00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:59,002 Mckinnon: It looks like a sharp jolt 919 00:38:59,004 --> 00:39:03,473 And then chaos as the smaller pieces crumble out, 920 00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:06,142 And it fades off fairly quickly, 921 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:09,279 Just like if you had a stack of books and you drop them. 922 00:39:09,281 --> 00:39:10,680 It's loud boom 923 00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:13,383 And then the pieces kind of tumbling off to the sides. 924 00:39:13,385 --> 00:39:15,518 And you get the quieter pieces falling down, 925 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,554 You see the same thing in the seismic signal. 926 00:39:17,556 --> 00:39:20,023 Dr. Proctor: Seismometers are extremely sensitive, 927 00:39:20,025 --> 00:39:24,194 So even though it might happen in a remote part of the ocean, 928 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,363 Most likely we're gonna pick that up. 929 00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:28,064 We've got a lot of seismic sensors, 930 00:39:28,066 --> 00:39:31,067 But we don't have a whole lot of the hydrophones, 931 00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:32,769 Which you can think of as being 932 00:39:32,771 --> 00:39:37,874 A really highly sensitive 3d microphone underwater 933 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,843 That can pick up vibrations in any direction 934 00:39:39,845 --> 00:39:41,644 And tell you what direction it's coming from, 935 00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,614 How big it is, what frequency it is, what does it sound like. 936 00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:48,051 And if you've got your three points, you can back trace 937 00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:51,321 And triangulate back to where its source was. 938 00:39:51,323 --> 00:39:53,656 But the oceans are really, really, really big. 939 00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:56,326 So even though we have a global network, 940 00:39:56,328 --> 00:39:59,996 It's still possible to have places that we're missing. 941 00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:03,133 Narrator: Could there be any easy answer to skyquakes, 942 00:40:03,135 --> 00:40:05,602 Or is the truth murky? 943 00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:06,836 I think it's comforting to people 944 00:40:06,838 --> 00:40:10,006 To have one solid explanation for something. 945 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:12,509 Something happens, and there's one single cause. 946 00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:14,244 It's just easier to wrap your head around. 947 00:40:14,246 --> 00:40:15,445 Kosiba: Science is always growing, 948 00:40:15,447 --> 00:40:16,913 Otherwise it would be a really boring field 949 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,181 If we just figured everything out 950 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:19,816 And we could explain everything. 951 00:40:22,154 --> 00:40:25,388 Just because there's not an easy explanation right away, 952 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:29,292 That doesn't mean that you're not working towards it. 953 00:40:29,294 --> 00:40:31,861 Sometimes we can take folklore and story as hints 954 00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:33,830 That we should investigate more. 955 00:40:33,832 --> 00:40:36,132 There's a story of the day the mountain moved 956 00:40:36,134 --> 00:40:38,635 In the rocky mountains of canada, 957 00:40:38,637 --> 00:40:41,938 And it turns out it was a loud cracking noise 958 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:44,140 That when investigated later, 959 00:40:44,142 --> 00:40:46,376 There was a landslide where there hadn't been one 960 00:40:46,378 --> 00:40:48,645 The last time people went through. 961 00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:51,181 And then one day there was a giant landslide, 962 00:40:51,183 --> 00:40:53,950 The frank landslide, one of the most deadly landslides 963 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,820 In canadian history, and the mountain moved again 964 00:40:56,822 --> 00:41:00,390 As it cracked and rumbled and buried the town. 965 00:41:00,392 --> 00:41:03,860 We could have used those stories as a warning, 966 00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:06,796 As a precursor, as a way of exploring more. 967 00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:09,699 Dr. Proctor: There's most likely not one explanation 968 00:41:09,701 --> 00:41:12,802 For all of the different types of skyquakes we hear about 969 00:41:12,804 --> 00:41:14,537 From around the world. 970 00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:17,774 Mckinnon: We definitely know landslides create large, rumbling booms. 971 00:41:17,776 --> 00:41:20,610 We definitely know earthquakes can be acoustic. 972 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:24,414 We definitely know that meteors, when they explode in the air, 973 00:41:24,416 --> 00:41:26,883 Can create a sonic boom. 974 00:41:26,885 --> 00:41:28,751 All of these are things we've seen, we know, 975 00:41:28,753 --> 00:41:31,654 We have observed repeatedly, we understand. 976 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,656 If we actually do solve this mystery, 977 00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:35,191 It's probably going to be the result 978 00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:36,993 Of several different things happening. 979 00:41:36,995 --> 00:41:39,629 Mckinnon: Although we're recording data all of the time, 980 00:41:39,631 --> 00:41:41,331 We don't always know what to look for. 981 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:45,268 There's so much happening that we're trying to find a signal 982 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,003 In all of the noise. 983 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:51,207 Narrator: The next time you hear a boom coming from the sky, 984 00:41:51,209 --> 00:41:55,111 You might want to duck for cover or brace yourself, 985 00:41:55,113 --> 00:41:59,983 Because despite all our understanding of science, 986 00:41:59,985 --> 00:42:02,051 The world around us continues to be 987 00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:05,188 Both awe-inspiring, terrifying, 988 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:07,156 And beyond our control. 81331

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