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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,357 --> 00:00:11,446 LILY: It was raining. 2 00:00:11,489 --> 00:00:14,362 One of those scary, pounding rains 3 00:00:14,405 --> 00:00:15,972 where the wind makes it sound 4 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:18,409 like a locomotive is right outside your window. 5 00:00:18,453 --> 00:00:20,977 We were all asleep. 6 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:23,327 But even with the sound of the winds howling, 7 00:00:23,371 --> 00:00:27,331 there was all of a sudden this boom. 8 00:00:27,375 --> 00:00:30,682 I thought that a helicopter or a plane had fallen 9 00:00:30,726 --> 00:00:32,728 into the building. 10 00:00:37,124 --> 00:00:40,083 My friends Claire and Finn were lying in bed together 11 00:00:40,127 --> 00:00:42,433 when they were crushed by the weight of the beam 12 00:00:42,477 --> 00:00:44,435 as it crashed through the ceiling. 13 00:00:48,265 --> 00:00:51,486 This building was built in the 1870s. 14 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:55,707 It was a cigar factory for 75 years. 15 00:00:56,752 --> 00:00:58,884 Then it was a sweatshop 16 00:00:58,928 --> 00:01:01,626 for another 20 or so. 17 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:05,978 Then a import-export warehouse, I think. 18 00:01:06,022 --> 00:01:07,632 Then about five years ago, 19 00:01:07,676 --> 00:01:10,505 the city came around and told the owner 20 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:12,942 that he'd have to make a lot of improvements 21 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:15,162 if he wanted to keep leasing the space. 22 00:01:15,205 --> 00:01:17,599 Indoor plumbing, for one thing. 23 00:01:17,642 --> 00:01:21,081 Decent heat and electric. 24 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:23,083 Owner said no. 25 00:01:23,126 --> 00:01:25,215 Apparently, he lives in Asia somewhere. 26 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:28,088 So they've been in a standoff ever since. 27 00:01:30,177 --> 00:01:31,874 CHUNK: And no one ever noticed 28 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:34,529 a dozen squatters living in here? 29 00:01:41,057 --> 00:01:42,667 Lily... 30 00:01:42,711 --> 00:01:44,713 did you know that your friend Claire 31 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:46,889 came from a wealthy family? 32 00:01:46,932 --> 00:01:48,891 I had no idea. 33 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:50,632 I looked at the court papers. 34 00:01:50,675 --> 00:01:52,286 You're the only one named. 35 00:01:52,329 --> 00:01:54,462 The only one being sued. 36 00:01:54,505 --> 00:01:57,987 Any idea why Claire's mother would single you out? 37 00:01:59,031 --> 00:02:02,122 I guess because I found the place, 38 00:02:02,165 --> 00:02:04,124 told everybody else about it. 39 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,996 Nah. I think there's got to be more. 40 00:02:08,258 --> 00:02:12,088 I'm worried that... it's about something else. 41 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:15,526 Sometimes when people can't convince the district attorney 42 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:19,008 to bring criminal charges, they'll file a civil suit. 43 00:02:19,051 --> 00:02:20,966 Think of it as a dress rehearsal, 44 00:02:21,010 --> 00:02:23,708 a way that a plaintiff can convince a D.A. 45 00:02:23,752 --> 00:02:26,537 that there's a case worth trying here. 46 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:28,452 So what are you saying? 47 00:02:28,496 --> 00:02:31,020 I'm saying that if we don't win this first case, 48 00:02:31,063 --> 00:02:32,891 we might be looking at a second one, 49 00:02:32,935 --> 00:02:37,679 one where you're facingup to ten to 15 years in prison. 50 00:02:39,594 --> 00:02:41,770 She was...she was 19 years old. 51 00:02:41,813 --> 00:02:44,816 She had her whole lifein front of her. 52 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:46,992 Forgive me, Ms. Waters, 53 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:50,996 but clearly, you and your family do all right. 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,695 How did your late daughter wind up living 55 00:02:53,738 --> 00:02:56,045 in a rough neighborhood like Chinatown? 56 00:02:57,133 --> 00:03:01,442 My daughter and I were in a period of, uh, estrangement. 57 00:03:01,485 --> 00:03:04,140 She... 58 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:07,143 she had decided to leave collegein her sophomore year, 59 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:10,451 and I decided that was not something I could support. 60 00:03:10,494 --> 00:03:12,235 She wanted to be a painter. 61 00:03:12,279 --> 00:03:14,281 She thought that college was a waste of time. 62 00:03:14,324 --> 00:03:17,980 I see.Her mind wasmade up, and... 63 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:20,287 so was mine. 64 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:23,638 I cut her off financially. 65 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:26,989 I-I wasn't trying to hurt her. 66 00:03:27,032 --> 00:03:30,601 I was trying to... shock her into reconsidering. 67 00:03:30,645 --> 00:03:31,776 [scoffs softly] 68 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:34,257 [quietly]: S-Stupid. 69 00:03:35,302 --> 00:03:37,869 And the young man who died, 70 00:03:37,913 --> 00:03:40,176 Finn Danford, was he a boyfriend? 71 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:42,352 I suppose. 72 00:03:42,396 --> 00:03:45,660 Probably a big part of the reason she left school. 73 00:03:45,703 --> 00:03:48,140 But as I say... 74 00:03:48,184 --> 00:03:51,231 we were not speaking by that point. 75 00:03:53,189 --> 00:03:54,321 Is this it? 76 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:56,105 DRIVER:Yes, ma'am. 77 00:03:57,585 --> 00:03:59,543 BENNY: The fire department 78 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:01,589 gave me a key to the padlock, so... 79 00:04:01,632 --> 00:04:03,199 EVELYN: I don't see 80 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,114 any padlock. 81 00:04:10,902 --> 00:04:12,252 Oh, my goodness. 82 00:04:12,295 --> 00:04:14,645 Chunk? 83 00:04:14,689 --> 00:04:16,691 What are you doing here? 84 00:04:16,734 --> 00:04:18,083 I'm here with my client. 85 00:04:18,127 --> 00:04:19,955 Lily Knowles. 86 00:04:19,998 --> 00:04:22,087 Oh, my... [sighs] 87 00:04:22,131 --> 00:04:24,133 I think we may have a problem here. 88 00:04:24,176 --> 00:04:25,961 This is myclient, 89 00:04:26,004 --> 00:04:28,311 Claire Waters's mother, Evelyn Waters. 90 00:04:28,355 --> 00:04:30,444 Oh, my God, M-Mrs. Waters, I'm so sorry. I... 91 00:04:30,487 --> 00:04:32,097 No, no, no,that-that's enough. 92 00:04:32,141 --> 00:04:35,275 That's enough.Ms. Waters, I have to tell you something. 93 00:04:35,318 --> 00:04:37,929 Mr. Palmer here and I are not just friends. 94 00:04:37,973 --> 00:04:39,148 We're colleagues. 95 00:04:39,191 --> 00:04:41,324 We work at the same firm. 96 00:04:41,368 --> 00:04:43,239 I don't understand. 97 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,067 Neither do I.Well... 98 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:47,069 the short version is... 99 00:04:47,112 --> 00:04:51,073 I'm afraid we might be staringat a conflict of interest. 100 00:04:51,116 --> 00:04:53,205 Who might be? 101 00:04:53,249 --> 00:04:54,946 All of us. 102 00:04:54,990 --> 00:04:57,514 BENNY: In my 20-some-odd years of doing this for a living, 103 00:04:57,558 --> 00:04:59,734 I can honestly say that I have never, 104 00:04:59,777 --> 00:05:01,910 ever been as professionally embarrassed 105 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:03,433 as I was this morning. 106 00:05:03,477 --> 00:05:06,828 I-I... I truly did not know what to say to that woman. 107 00:05:06,871 --> 00:05:08,960 Just tell her that you're sorryfor wasting her time, 108 00:05:09,004 --> 00:05:11,615 but your esteemed colleague got there first. Case closed! 109 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:13,400 Chunk! 110 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:15,402 BENNY: All I know is, I got a call last night 111 00:05:15,445 --> 00:05:17,360 from an attorney friend of mine. 112 00:05:17,404 --> 00:05:19,449 He has a very wealthy client whose daughter died 113 00:05:19,493 --> 00:05:21,277 in a tragic accident. 114 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:22,844 They went to the D.A.'s office 115 00:05:22,887 --> 00:05:25,063 hoping to file some criminal charges. 116 00:05:25,107 --> 00:05:28,066 The D.A. demurred,suggested they file a civil suit 117 00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:30,373 and recommended me and this firm 118 00:05:30,417 --> 00:05:32,506 as the right folks to get the job done. 119 00:05:32,549 --> 00:05:34,682 Ah. I like the sound of that. 120 00:05:34,725 --> 00:05:36,248 Mr. Palmer? 121 00:05:36,292 --> 00:05:38,599 I was just doing what you told me to do. 122 00:05:38,642 --> 00:05:40,383 And what was that? 123 00:05:40,427 --> 00:05:41,993 Remember? You said to me, 124 00:05:42,037 --> 00:05:44,474 "I'm thrilled to add you to the roster as an attorney, 125 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:47,608 "but, uh, no one's walking in the door asking for you. 126 00:05:47,651 --> 00:05:49,000 "No one knows you exist. 127 00:05:49,044 --> 00:05:51,133 "So for the foreseeable future, 128 00:05:51,176 --> 00:05:52,395 "I'm gonna assign you some cases, 129 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:54,484 "I'm gonna throw you some pro bono work. 130 00:05:54,528 --> 00:05:57,748 "But what you reallyshould do is get out there and hustle. 131 00:05:57,792 --> 00:05:59,402 "Anything to get in a courtroom. 132 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:00,621 "Anything to help 133 00:06:00,664 --> 00:06:02,100 the legal community see you in action." 134 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:03,493 And that's your hustle? 135 00:06:03,537 --> 00:06:05,582 A squatter who basically led a young couple 136 00:06:05,626 --> 00:06:08,324 to their death by allowing themto live in a building 137 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:11,675 that the city declared wasn't fit for occupancy. 138 00:06:11,719 --> 00:06:14,983 I thought the idea was to bring in cases we can win. 139 00:06:15,026 --> 00:06:16,985 That "squatter" has a name. 140 00:06:17,028 --> 00:06:19,422 Lily Knowles... was referred to me 141 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:21,946 by an organization called New York Artists for the Future. 142 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:24,427 I did some work for them in the law clinic at school, 143 00:06:24,471 --> 00:06:27,038 so when the situation came up, they asked if I could help. 144 00:06:27,082 --> 00:06:28,692 A-And by the way, 145 00:06:28,736 --> 00:06:31,869 this is exactly the kind of caseyou were talking to me about. 146 00:06:31,913 --> 00:06:35,177 And I happen to think that thisis a completely winnable case. 147 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:37,179 The girl is being set up. 148 00:06:37,222 --> 00:06:39,747 She has no legal culpability for those two deaths. 149 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:41,662 Well, that's for the jury to decide. 150 00:06:41,705 --> 00:06:43,403 And you seem 151 00:06:43,446 --> 00:06:46,754 to be forgetting: my client is the aggrieved party here. 152 00:06:46,797 --> 00:06:48,538 First of all, you don't have a client. 153 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,888 Neither one of us does until this man 154 00:06:50,932 --> 00:06:52,194 says so. 155 00:06:52,237 --> 00:06:53,848 And as far as aggrieved goes, 156 00:06:53,891 --> 00:06:56,416 that woman is worth acouple hundred million dollars, 157 00:06:56,459 --> 00:06:59,027 and she's suing a kid who doesn't have a pot to... 158 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,333 Her daughter is dead! 159 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:04,119 And since you're bringing up her money, 160 00:07:04,162 --> 00:07:06,643 this is probably as good a timeas any to remind everyone 161 00:07:06,687 --> 00:07:09,951 that she's actually prepared to pay for our services. 162 00:07:09,994 --> 00:07:13,302 Something I strongly suspect your client is not. 163 00:07:15,652 --> 00:07:18,002 The man makes a particularly cogent point. 164 00:07:18,046 --> 00:07:20,309 Look, I'm worried that if I don't defend this girl 165 00:07:20,352 --> 00:07:22,529 and get her acquitted, she's gonna be facing 166 00:07:22,572 --> 00:07:25,662 a lifetime of debt-- not to mention what happens 167 00:07:25,706 --> 00:07:28,535 if they decide to bring criminal charges. 168 00:07:29,579 --> 00:07:31,625 Do you honestly think 169 00:07:31,668 --> 00:07:34,018 you're the only person that can possibly represent her? 170 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:35,367 No. 171 00:07:35,411 --> 00:07:37,587 But I do believe that I can get her acquitted. 172 00:07:37,631 --> 00:07:39,763 I believe in her.And I believe 173 00:07:39,807 --> 00:07:42,549 she's being unfairly prosecuted.Come on. 174 00:07:42,592 --> 00:07:44,202 That warehouse was a death trap. 175 00:07:44,246 --> 00:07:46,466 She had no business enticing people to live there. 176 00:07:46,509 --> 00:07:48,468 She was trying to foster a community of artists. 177 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:50,165 She was trying to live 178 00:07:50,208 --> 00:07:53,342 rent-free with her friendsin a place she had no claim to! 179 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:54,691 Man, you are so cold! 180 00:07:54,735 --> 00:07:56,214 I'm cold? You're naive! 181 00:07:56,258 --> 00:07:57,607 This isn't legal aid. 182 00:07:57,651 --> 00:07:59,522 People are supposed to pay for the privilege 183 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:01,089 of having us represent them. 184 00:08:01,132 --> 00:08:03,483 And it's actually good for business if they're innocent. 185 00:08:03,526 --> 00:08:04,571 Enough! 186 00:08:08,705 --> 00:08:11,665 I have no idea what to do here. 187 00:08:11,708 --> 00:08:14,102 Chunk, how much work have you done on this? 188 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:15,538 We talked on the phone briefly 189 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:17,322 a couple of times earlier this week. 190 00:08:17,366 --> 00:08:20,021 Short calls. Finally met face-to-face this morning. 191 00:08:21,675 --> 00:08:24,591 I spoke with Evelyn for the first time two hours ago. 192 00:08:24,634 --> 00:08:27,550 Well, then I have no choice-- we have to go with Chunk, 193 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:29,334 otherwise we're conflicted out. 194 00:08:29,378 --> 00:08:31,598 Here's a crazy idea. I mean, what if... 195 00:08:31,641 --> 00:08:34,252 TAC did represent both clients? 196 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:36,646 Benny, you know as well as I dothe likelihood of the court 197 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:38,561 going along with something like that is one in a million. 198 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:40,128 You don't know until you ask. 199 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:41,869 More importantly, your client is never gonna go for it. 200 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:45,568 Why should she pay you, knowing weare representing 201 00:08:45,612 --> 00:08:47,265 her opponent and doing it for free? 202 00:08:47,309 --> 00:08:48,571 All excellent arguments. 203 00:08:48,615 --> 00:08:51,313 I'm just asking for permission to try. 204 00:08:55,317 --> 00:09:00,061 Fine. If you can get the courtsand all the principals to agree, 205 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:02,324 then TAC will be happy 206 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:04,631 to represent both sides.Could happen. 207 00:09:04,674 --> 00:09:06,502 Right after that blizzard in hell. 208 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:09,461 Hey, did you see that pig just fly by? 209 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:15,555 ♪ 210 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:24,128 I would feel like a fool going into court 211 00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:25,695 under these circumstances. 212 00:09:25,739 --> 00:09:28,568 I know how it sounds. 213 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:30,004 I know how it feels. 214 00:09:30,047 --> 00:09:33,050 But... I would be remiss if I didn't point out to you 215 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:35,836 that there are certain... benefits going to court 216 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:38,273 with someone who knows the other side so well, 217 00:09:38,316 --> 00:09:41,885 someone who can predict theirevery move before they make it. 218 00:09:41,929 --> 00:09:43,147 Be that as it may... 219 00:09:43,191 --> 00:09:44,975 See, the first thing that will happen is, 220 00:09:45,019 --> 00:09:47,064 the defense will file a motion to sever. 221 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:49,284 That means they'll try and force you to have 222 00:09:49,327 --> 00:09:52,853 three separate trials-- one against the city, 223 00:09:52,896 --> 00:09:54,115 one against the property owner, 224 00:09:54,158 --> 00:09:55,246 and one against Lily. 225 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:57,945 And then there's the Friday trick. 226 00:09:57,988 --> 00:09:59,642 What's the Friday trick? 227 00:09:59,686 --> 00:10:02,863 Chester Palmer-- he'sthe attorney representing Lily-- 228 00:10:02,906 --> 00:10:04,778 will say he has a scheduling conflict. 229 00:10:04,821 --> 00:10:07,998 He'll ask for the trial to commence on a Friday. 230 00:10:08,042 --> 00:10:09,826 So?Worst day 231 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:12,263 for a plaintiff, for you to start. 232 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:14,396 You'd much rather start on a Monday. 233 00:10:14,439 --> 00:10:16,920 That way, you have five days to build momentum. 234 00:10:16,964 --> 00:10:18,922 You want to rest your case on a Friday, 235 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:20,315 so the jury has 236 00:10:20,358 --> 00:10:21,925 all weekend to think about it. 237 00:10:21,969 --> 00:10:24,754 Then they'll be more likely to form an opinion 238 00:10:24,798 --> 00:10:26,887 that's favorable to your side. 239 00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:30,760 Chester Palmer sounds like a very smart man. 240 00:10:30,804 --> 00:10:33,807 Well, he learned from the best. 241 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:35,939 Oh. One more thing. 242 00:10:35,983 --> 00:10:38,942 The other side will try to maneuver so that the case 243 00:10:38,986 --> 00:10:41,684 appears in front of a defense-friendly judge, 244 00:10:41,728 --> 00:10:44,078 someone more inclined to rule in their favor, 245 00:10:44,121 --> 00:10:45,514 give them the benefit of a doubt. 246 00:10:45,557 --> 00:10:47,995 Now, I'm thinking Judge Tessa Hudson. 247 00:10:48,038 --> 00:10:51,694 We've stood before her many times, and... 248 00:10:51,738 --> 00:10:54,262 I happen to know she's up in the rotation. 249 00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:57,265 Judge Tessa Hudson. 250 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:58,745 [gavel banging]Good morning. 251 00:10:58,788 --> 00:11:02,052 Just so everybody understands how the COVID of it all 252 00:11:02,096 --> 00:11:03,619 works in my courtroom, 253 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:07,536 I am behind plexiglass and I am socially distanced 254 00:11:07,579 --> 00:11:09,669 from everyone, so please don't let the fact that I am 255 00:11:09,712 --> 00:11:12,976 not wearing a mask cause you any concern. 256 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:15,849 Witnesses are also seated behind plexiglass 257 00:11:15,892 --> 00:11:17,764 and are socially distanced. 258 00:11:17,807 --> 00:11:19,809 We feel it's important for the jurors 259 00:11:19,853 --> 00:11:22,594 to see their entire faces. 260 00:11:22,638 --> 00:11:25,423 Jurors are behind plexiglass and are required 261 00:11:25,467 --> 00:11:26,990 to wear masks because even though 262 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:29,079 they are socially distanced, 263 00:11:29,123 --> 00:11:31,212 they are in a congregant group. 264 00:11:31,255 --> 00:11:33,518 And we are determined to keep them as safe 265 00:11:33,562 --> 00:11:35,390 as is humanly possible. 266 00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:38,088 As for the defense and plaintiff tables, 267 00:11:38,132 --> 00:11:39,742 whether or not you wear a mask is 268 00:11:39,786 --> 00:11:41,788 totally up to you and your clients. 269 00:11:41,831 --> 00:11:44,486 You are far enough away that proximity should 270 00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:46,009 not pose an issue. 271 00:11:46,053 --> 00:11:48,142 The only other rule for you is 272 00:11:48,185 --> 00:11:50,187 no more than two people at the table-- 273 00:11:50,231 --> 00:11:53,103 presumably the principal attorney and the client. 274 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:56,628 All right, let's see if we can come to some kind 275 00:11:56,672 --> 00:11:59,457 of consensus on a trial date. 276 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:01,677 If it pleases the court, 277 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:02,983 Your Honor, my schedule is 278 00:12:03,026 --> 00:12:04,549 pretty tight this week. 279 00:12:04,593 --> 00:12:06,638 I'd ask the court's indulgencethat I be able to impanel 280 00:12:06,682 --> 00:12:08,640 on Thursday and beginthe trial on Friday. 281 00:12:08,684 --> 00:12:10,860 HUDSON: All right. 282 00:12:10,904 --> 00:12:13,036 There's no objection from the plaintiff, I assume? 283 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:19,434 Well, actually, we'd prefer to start earlier in the week. 284 00:12:19,477 --> 00:12:21,741 Speak plainly, Counsel.Are you not available on Friday? 285 00:12:22,872 --> 00:12:25,570 I am, but...Okay, Friday it is. 286 00:12:25,614 --> 00:12:28,835 Splendid. Now, does the defense wish to be heard 287 00:12:28,878 --> 00:12:30,488 on the motion to sever? 288 00:12:30,532 --> 00:12:32,055 Your Honor... 289 00:12:32,099 --> 00:12:34,710 obviously my client's defenseis in direct conflict 290 00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:36,146 with the othertwo defendants-- 291 00:12:36,190 --> 00:12:38,496 the building owner and the city. 292 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:40,803 One is basicallyan impoverished individual with 293 00:12:40,847 --> 00:12:44,241 no direct responsibility forthe condition of the building, 294 00:12:44,285 --> 00:12:46,591 whereas the other two are substantial entities 295 00:12:46,635 --> 00:12:49,594 with access to abundant resources. 296 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:50,944 Holding all three trialstogether 297 00:12:50,987 --> 00:12:52,859 would absolutely pose 298 00:12:52,902 --> 00:12:53,947 undue prejudice. 299 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:55,731 I would agree with you, Mr. Palmer. 300 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,907 The motion to sever is allowed. 301 00:12:57,951 --> 00:13:00,344 Very well then. 302 00:13:00,388 --> 00:13:02,085 Our next order of business... 303 00:13:02,129 --> 00:13:04,131 Uh... excuse me? 304 00:13:04,174 --> 00:13:06,873 Ms. Waters, where are you going? 305 00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:08,788 This is your trial. 306 00:13:08,831 --> 00:13:10,877 We're all here because of you. 307 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,487 I'm sorry, Judge Hudson. 308 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:14,141 Uh, please feel free to continue. 309 00:13:14,184 --> 00:13:16,796 I have to make a phone call. 310 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:18,798 HUDSON: Okay... 311 00:13:18,841 --> 00:13:20,234 run this by me again. 312 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:22,192 You want to change counsel 313 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:24,238 one day in?I do. 314 00:13:24,281 --> 00:13:25,935 And you want?BENNY:I am seeking 315 00:13:25,979 --> 00:13:28,720 the court's permissionto file an appearance. 316 00:13:28,764 --> 00:13:30,157 Uh-huh.As you well know, 317 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,463 I'm employedby Dr. Jason Bull 318 00:13:32,507 --> 00:13:34,161 of the Trial Analysis Corporation, 319 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:35,510 and so is Mr. Palmer, 320 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:36,903 who is representing 321 00:13:36,946 --> 00:13:38,078 the defendant.Ah. 322 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:39,819 Isn't this cozy? 323 00:13:39,862 --> 00:13:41,516 A little, perhaps, yes, 324 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,866 but I just wantto state for the record 325 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:46,129 that I've had no contactwith Mr. Palmer's client. 326 00:13:46,173 --> 00:13:48,262 I've not done any workon her case. 327 00:13:48,305 --> 00:13:49,959 In fact, I didn't even know 328 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:52,527 that anyone from my firmhad ever even spoken 329 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:55,138 to the defendant until after Iagreed to represent Ms. Waters. 330 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:56,444 BULL:Your Honor, 331 00:13:56,487 --> 00:13:58,228 our firm is prepared to avoid any 332 00:13:58,272 --> 00:14:00,187 and all conflicts of interest. 333 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:03,755 We will happily divide up our resources and our staff, 334 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,934 and if necessary, even the office space itself. 335 00:14:07,977 --> 00:14:09,239 In addition, pursuant 336 00:14:09,283 --> 00:14:10,806 to the New York Rulesof Professional Conduct, 337 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:13,765 Section 1.7, I have informedmy client of her rights, 338 00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:16,290 and she has signed a noticeof informed consent. 339 00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:18,553 And my client has signed a similar document. 340 00:14:19,597 --> 00:14:21,121 Miss Knowles, 341 00:14:21,164 --> 00:14:23,427 while you cannot select 342 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:25,908 who represents Ms. Waters, 343 00:14:25,952 --> 00:14:30,957 you are entitled to a lawyerfree of any potential conflict. 344 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,091 Your Honor, I-I want Mr. Palmer to be my attorney. 345 00:14:35,135 --> 00:14:36,788 I trust him. 346 00:14:36,832 --> 00:14:38,442 He gets me. 347 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:41,532 And plus, he's working for free. 348 00:14:41,576 --> 00:14:43,665 Oh. 349 00:14:43,708 --> 00:14:45,101 Ms. Waters, 350 00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:46,929 what was wrong with the lawyer 351 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:48,844 who accompanied you in court yesterday 352 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:49,845 at the motions hearing? 353 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,239 Nothing. He's just not the best, 354 00:14:52,282 --> 00:14:54,937 and Mr. Colón, in my opinion, is. 355 00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,243 Uh-huh. 356 00:14:56,286 --> 00:14:58,288 That was subtle. 357 00:14:58,332 --> 00:15:01,857 Well, if, uh, everybody's in agreement, 358 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:03,424 I'm not gonna stand in your way. 359 00:15:03,467 --> 00:15:05,208 The motion is allowed. 360 00:15:09,082 --> 00:15:10,866 BULL: In order for this to work, 361 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,172 it's absolutely crucial 362 00:15:12,215 --> 00:15:15,044 that there be no sharingof information. Marissa, 363 00:15:15,088 --> 00:15:17,481 I need you to figure out a way to firewall the console 364 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:19,048 so each team will only have access to their data. 365 00:15:19,092 --> 00:15:20,484 I can do that. 366 00:15:20,528 --> 00:15:21,964 Each side'll have their own password, 367 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:23,313 and I'll make it so everyone 368 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:25,663 can log in remotelyfrom their laptops and tablets 369 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,665 so no one's huddled around the monitors in the war room. 370 00:15:27,709 --> 00:15:29,841 Great. Benny,since you are the... 371 00:15:29,885 --> 00:15:31,495 more experienced attorney, 372 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:33,106 I'm assigning myself to Chunk's team. 373 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:35,891 Fine. I'll take Marissaand Danny then. 374 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,110 Sorry, Taylor. 375 00:15:37,153 --> 00:15:39,199 It's fine. I like hanging with the boys. 376 00:15:39,242 --> 00:15:41,027 BULL: And, Chunk,if you're good with it, 377 00:15:41,070 --> 00:15:42,767 we'll make my office our workspace? 378 00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:44,900 Room with a view? Solid. 379 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,163 Benny, if you don't mind working down here? 380 00:15:47,207 --> 00:15:48,904 Works for me. 381 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:50,558 All right. 382 00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:58,087 ♪ 383 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:05,312 ♪ 384 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:17,063 All right, Chunk, it's yourparty. How do you want to start? 385 00:16:17,106 --> 00:16:19,021 Well, obviously, voir dire is the first 386 00:16:19,065 --> 00:16:20,892 order of business. 387 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:22,807 Since you've done that athousand more times than I have, 388 00:16:22,851 --> 00:16:24,244 what do you think the play is? 389 00:16:24,287 --> 00:16:26,028 We need to find jurors who are open to the idea 390 00:16:26,072 --> 00:16:30,250 that what happened was simply beyond Lily's control. 391 00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:31,599 Which it was. 392 00:16:31,642 --> 00:16:33,253 That's right. In a perfect world, 393 00:16:33,296 --> 00:16:36,908 I'd want to seat intentionalistsand deselect consequentialists. 394 00:16:36,952 --> 00:16:39,389 One more time, for those of us who don't speak PhD? 395 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,305 We want people who will focus not on what happened, 396 00:16:42,349 --> 00:16:44,264 but Lily's intent. 397 00:16:44,307 --> 00:16:46,440 Which was to create housing for her fellow artists 398 00:16:46,483 --> 00:16:48,398 and build a sense of community. 399 00:16:48,442 --> 00:16:50,096 So I have a question. 400 00:16:50,139 --> 00:16:52,228 Claire's boyfriend died in the accident, too. 401 00:16:52,272 --> 00:16:54,056 Why aren't his parents part of this lawsuit? 402 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,059 That is an excellent question. 403 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:00,628 On it. [clears throat] 404 00:17:00,671 --> 00:17:02,630 BENNY: We... 405 00:17:02,673 --> 00:17:04,327 are suing for wrongful death, 406 00:17:04,371 --> 00:17:06,851 which means we have to prove 407 00:17:06,895 --> 00:17:10,072 Lily knowingly brought Claire into a dangerous situation. 408 00:17:10,116 --> 00:17:12,553 If I know Bull, he is gonna convince Chunk to argue 409 00:17:12,596 --> 00:17:14,990 that Lily was no differentthan any of the other squatters, 410 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:17,384 that she's no more culpable than the rest of them, 411 00:17:17,427 --> 00:17:19,038 that in fact, she could have just as easily 412 00:17:19,081 --> 00:17:21,605 been underneath that beam as Evelyn's daughter. 413 00:17:21,649 --> 00:17:23,042 Of course that's what he's gonna do. 414 00:17:23,085 --> 00:17:24,347 You knowwhat my grandmother used to say? 415 00:17:24,391 --> 00:17:26,436 "Be careful when you point a finger at someone. 416 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,005 You'll discover there's three fingers pointing back at you." 417 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:32,660 Come to think of it, we need jurors like your grandmother. 418 00:17:33,835 --> 00:17:37,012 People who think this Lily girlset everything into motion 419 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:41,799 by breaking into that buildingand inviting others to join her. 420 00:17:41,843 --> 00:17:44,237 Breaking the lawand inviting others to join her. 421 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,630 People who take responsibility for their own actions 422 00:17:46,674 --> 00:17:49,111 and expect others to do the same.Yup. 423 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:52,680 We need to get rid of anyone who plays the blame game. 424 00:17:52,723 --> 00:17:54,116 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 425 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,988 Okay. Let me ask you a question. 426 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:59,208 Anybody here unhappy at work? 427 00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:01,863 All right.Juror number three, 428 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:03,125 let's start with you. 429 00:18:03,169 --> 00:18:05,649 So, you are unhappy at your job? 430 00:18:05,693 --> 00:18:10,132 Well, let's just say I made somebad choices when I was younger. 431 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:14,049 I was too interested in partying, having fun. 432 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,138 I should have focused more on school. 433 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:19,750 She's self-aware, takes responsibility for her flaws. 434 00:18:19,794 --> 00:18:21,143 I like her. 435 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,319 Not blaming anyone else 436 00:18:23,363 --> 00:18:24,799 for where she is in life. 437 00:18:24,842 --> 00:18:27,149 Sounds like just the person we are looking for. 438 00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:30,457 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 439 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:32,111 She's exactly who they're looking for. 440 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:34,069 Your Honor,with your permission, 441 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,767 we would like to thankand excuse juror number three. 442 00:18:36,811 --> 00:18:40,293 ♪ 443 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:43,905 Who here has ever offered to water your neighbor's plants, 444 00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:46,777 maybe take in their mail while they're on vacation? 445 00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:48,214 Juror number 17. 446 00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:51,086 Neighbor of the year.Tell us your story. 447 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:54,133 No story. I just agreed to feed my neighbor's cat 448 00:18:54,176 --> 00:18:56,047 when he went to the Jersey Shorea few weeks ago. 449 00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:57,788 That was awfully nice of you. 450 00:18:57,832 --> 00:19:00,139 So let me, uh, ask you this hypothetical. 451 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:02,967 You're-you're in the apartment,you're feeding the cat. 452 00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:04,969 You accidentally break a vase. 453 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:06,188 What would you do? 454 00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:07,624 Well, I don't know. 455 00:19:07,668 --> 00:19:10,192 I mean... does he knowI did it? 456 00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:13,935 Maybe the cat knocked it over. 457 00:19:13,978 --> 00:19:16,198 Great. We got a comedian. Taylor, 458 00:19:16,242 --> 00:19:17,243 talk to me. 459 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,332 He's a dentist, sole practitioner. 460 00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:21,812 And an avid mountain climber. 461 00:19:21,856 --> 00:19:23,727 Okay. That helps clarify things. 462 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:25,555 He's an individualist, which means 463 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:27,078 he'll be more likely to buy Benny's theory 464 00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:29,124 of personal responsibility. 465 00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:32,867 We'd like to thank and excuse this juror. 466 00:19:32,910 --> 00:19:35,043 And what about you? 467 00:19:35,086 --> 00:19:36,784 Let's say you broke the vase. 468 00:19:36,827 --> 00:19:39,613 Well, then, I'd certainly offerto pay for it. 469 00:19:39,656 --> 00:19:43,225 Now, would it make mea bad person if I secretly hope 470 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:45,184 my neighbor says, "Don't worry about it"? 471 00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:48,274 No. As long as you're willing to step up. 472 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,755 This juror is acceptable to the plaintiff, Your Honor. 473 00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:54,671 I'll kick her. 474 00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:56,673 Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. 475 00:19:56,717 --> 00:19:58,153 I liked her answer. 476 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:00,851 She was being honest almost to a fault. 477 00:20:00,895 --> 00:20:02,201 Taylor, 478 00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:04,159 tell me something I don't know about this lady. 479 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:07,162 Well, her Insta's filledwith pictures of gifts she sends 480 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:09,208 to her kids and grandkids for their birthdays. 481 00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,383 Everything's homemade, 482 00:20:10,426 --> 00:20:13,516 everything individual and personalized. 483 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,126 I knew it. 484 00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:17,216 Sounds like she's an intentionalist. 485 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:18,913 What is that again? 486 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:22,003 Someone for whom the intention of the deed is more important 487 00:20:22,046 --> 00:20:23,265 than the outcome. 488 00:20:23,309 --> 00:20:24,266 It could also mean she's a cheapskate. 489 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:25,876 CHUNK:Your Honor, 490 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,315 this juror is also acceptableto the defense. 491 00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:33,275 She is? 492 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:35,277 What's he know that we don't know? 493 00:20:35,321 --> 00:20:37,279 I don't know.He's Bull. 494 00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:39,760 HUDSON:Ladies and gentlemen,we have our panel. 495 00:20:39,803 --> 00:20:41,370 Juror number 30, 496 00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:44,373 I am appointing you foreperson. 497 00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:47,333 Testimony begins first thing in the morning. 498 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,556 She asleep? 499 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,210 Do you hear her crying? 500 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:56,167 No. 501 00:20:56,211 --> 00:20:57,778 Well, that's usually 502 00:20:57,821 --> 00:20:59,867 the giveaway. 503 00:21:03,218 --> 00:21:05,220 Do you have any idea why I haven't heard 504 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:06,787 from my brother all night? 505 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:09,268 I mean, I've texted and I've called. 506 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:10,878 It's as if he's off the grid. 507 00:21:10,921 --> 00:21:13,620 He's up first tomorrow. 508 00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:16,927 He's probably at the office putting together his case. 509 00:21:16,971 --> 00:21:20,322 Really? It's after 11:00. 510 00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:24,326 The law is a cruel mistress. 511 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:26,459 If he's at the office, then why aren't you? 512 00:21:26,502 --> 00:21:29,070 Because I'm here with you.[laughs softly] 513 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:30,201 HUDSON: Mr. Colón, 514 00:21:30,245 --> 00:21:32,334 you may call your first witness. 515 00:21:32,378 --> 00:21:33,335 Yes, Your Honor. 516 00:21:33,379 --> 00:21:34,945 With the court's permission, 517 00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:38,122 the plaintiff would like to callReggie Craven to the stand. 518 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:40,299 [door opens] 519 00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:44,738 [quietly]:Who is this? 520 00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:46,348 Remember what I said. 521 00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:48,481 We have to prove that Lily knowingly brought Claire 522 00:21:48,524 --> 00:21:50,483 into a dangerous situation. 523 00:21:50,526 --> 00:21:52,572 Objection. 524 00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:53,921 This is the first 525 00:21:53,964 --> 00:21:55,792 that the defense is hearing about this witness. 526 00:21:55,836 --> 00:21:58,360 His name does not appear on any witness list. 527 00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:00,884 And, frankly, I've never even heard of him. 528 00:22:00,928 --> 00:22:04,105 This is a clear violation of the rules of discovery. 529 00:22:04,148 --> 00:22:07,108 Is this true,Mr. Colón? 530 00:22:07,151 --> 00:22:09,328 Did you fail to provide defense counsel 531 00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:10,677 with a complete witness list 532 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,767 prior to the start of proceedings this morning? 533 00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:17,161 Your Honor, Mr. Craven has beenextremely difficult to locate. 534 00:22:17,205 --> 00:22:19,512 He doesn't havea permanent address, 535 00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:21,383 and we weren't able to make contact with him 536 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:22,950 until about two hours ago. 537 00:22:22,993 --> 00:22:24,386 [quietly]:What a complete load of... 538 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:25,953 That's my name. Don't wear it out. 539 00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:27,563 Shh.I'm going to take you at your word 540 00:22:27,607 --> 00:22:29,739 this time, Mr. Colón. 541 00:22:29,783 --> 00:22:31,350 But let's not make 542 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:32,568 a habit of this. 543 00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:33,830 Mr. Palmer, 544 00:22:33,874 --> 00:22:35,049 let's swear the witness in, 545 00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:36,398 see what he has to say. 546 00:22:36,442 --> 00:22:39,401 Then, if you feel you need extra time 547 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:41,447 to prepare after direct examination, 548 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:42,709 I promise, 549 00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:44,798 I will make an accommodation for that. 550 00:22:44,841 --> 00:22:47,409 Thank you, Your Honor. 551 00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:48,758 BENNY: Now, Mr. Craven, 552 00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,891 you were one of the squatters at the warehouse 553 00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:54,416 where Claire Waters and Finn Danford lost their lives? 554 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:56,070 Yes, sir. 555 00:22:56,113 --> 00:22:57,724 I lived there for about three weeks. 556 00:22:57,767 --> 00:22:59,682 Uh, but just so everybody's straight, 557 00:22:59,726 --> 00:23:02,076 I was there before the folks that died. 558 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,034 So I never metClaire or Finn.Okay. 559 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:07,124 Duly noted. But you livedthere nonetheless. 560 00:23:07,168 --> 00:23:08,865 Now, how did you hearabout the place? 561 00:23:08,909 --> 00:23:10,476 Uh, Lily. 562 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:11,477 She told me about it. 563 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,434 BENNY:And how did you know Lily? 564 00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:13,435 Gallery shows. 565 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:15,306 Openings. 566 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:16,873 I'd bump into her all the time. 567 00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:19,615 Turns out we both liked events that featured art, 568 00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:21,487 free wine and things you could eat. 569 00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:23,358 BENNY:Now, after you moved in,did you... 570 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:26,187 see anythingthat gave you cause for concern? 571 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:28,450 A lot, actually. 572 00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:30,583 I mean, there were extension cords 573 00:23:30,626 --> 00:23:32,062 running between buildings, 574 00:23:32,106 --> 00:23:34,064 hanging out in the weather. 575 00:23:34,108 --> 00:23:35,979 There was a rodent problem. 576 00:23:36,023 --> 00:23:38,373 No bathroom, per se. 577 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,549 It was pretty rugged.Anything else? 578 00:23:40,593 --> 00:23:43,160 Well, I mean, you couldn't missthe water stains on the ceiling. 579 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:46,729 Uh, there was actually a spacewhere the ceiling was, 580 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:47,730 uh, bowing. 581 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:49,340 Like-like, dripping down. 582 00:23:49,384 --> 00:23:51,386 And, uh, it looked like water or something else 583 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,257 had been collecting there for a long time. 584 00:23:53,301 --> 00:23:55,782 And did you...share your concerns with anyone? 585 00:23:55,825 --> 00:23:58,045 I-I told Lily. 586 00:23:58,088 --> 00:23:59,699 Well, her bedwas right underneath 587 00:23:59,742 --> 00:24:01,396 where the bulge wasthe biggest. 588 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,354 So I just... didn't think it was safe. 589 00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:04,355 Or smart. 590 00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:05,400 So let me get this straight. 591 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,402 You told the defendant 592 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,404 you thought the ceiling might be a hazard? 593 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:10,797 I did. 594 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,799 [quietly]: No wonder they hid this guy from us. 595 00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:14,844 BENNY:And what didthe defendant do about it? 596 00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:17,412 Nothing, as far as I could tell. 597 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:18,979 Uh, that's why,when I got enough money 598 00:24:19,022 --> 00:24:20,546 to get out of there,I-I did. 599 00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:22,243 Thank you, Mr. Craven. 600 00:24:22,286 --> 00:24:24,071 No further questions, Your Honor. 601 00:24:24,114 --> 00:24:25,246 LILY: I don't know 602 00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:26,943 what he expected me to do. 603 00:24:26,987 --> 00:24:28,423 I didn't own the place. 604 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:29,990 I didn't have any money. 605 00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:32,427 And, besides, for all I knew, 606 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,516 it could have been like that for a hundred years. 607 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,604 Mr. Palmer? 608 00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:37,693 Are you prepared to cross-examine? 609 00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:39,695 [quietly]:Should we ask for more time? 610 00:24:39,739 --> 00:24:41,218 No. 611 00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:43,220 Just ask him if he warned anyone else. 612 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:45,222 Be sure to use the word "warned." 613 00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:48,617 Let's paint him with the same brush he's using on Lily. 614 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,839 CHUNK: Mr. Craven, 615 00:24:52,882 --> 00:24:55,494 you said that you saw-- wh-what did you call it?-- 616 00:24:55,537 --> 00:24:57,539 the-the bowing in the ceiling 617 00:24:57,583 --> 00:24:59,193 and you warned 618 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:00,194 Ms. Knowles. 619 00:25:00,237 --> 00:25:01,543 Yeah. That's correct. 620 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:04,415 Who else did you warn about it? 621 00:25:04,459 --> 00:25:06,200 Excuse me? 622 00:25:06,243 --> 00:25:07,549 Who else did you warn 623 00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:09,508 about your concerns regarding the ceiling? 624 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:12,598 No one? 625 00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:16,558 I need you to speak your answerfor the record, sir. 626 00:25:16,602 --> 00:25:18,778 No. I just told Lily. 627 00:25:18,821 --> 00:25:20,040 I figuredthat would be enough. 628 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:23,130 And why would you think that? 629 00:25:23,173 --> 00:25:25,219 If you thoughtthere was imminent danger there, 630 00:25:25,262 --> 00:25:27,613 why wouldn't you warn everyone you could? 631 00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:30,441 Your other roommates.Give them 632 00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:32,182 the same opportunity you took 633 00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:33,488 to get out of there and find another place 634 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:34,489 to live. 635 00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:35,098 I don't know. I... 636 00:25:35,142 --> 00:25:36,535 I told Lily. 637 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:38,145 I-I mean,she was in charge. 638 00:25:38,188 --> 00:25:39,799 CHUNK:Was she? 639 00:25:39,842 --> 00:25:42,453 I thought this was supposed to be an artists' cooperative, 640 00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,499 a egalitarian commune, 641 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:46,806 where everyone was all in it together. 642 00:25:46,849 --> 00:25:48,024 Nice. 643 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:49,373 Now quit while you're ahead. 644 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:51,027 Objection. Your Honor, 645 00:25:51,071 --> 00:25:53,464 maybe I missed it, but was therea question in there somewhere? 646 00:25:53,508 --> 00:25:55,641 Ask a question, Mr. Palmer. 647 00:25:55,684 --> 00:25:56,816 Tell her you have no more questions, 648 00:25:56,859 --> 00:25:58,034 thank the witness and sit down. 649 00:25:58,078 --> 00:25:59,209 Absolutely, Your Honor. 650 00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:01,255 The truth is, 651 00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:03,910 you thought that there was a problem with the roof, 652 00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:05,215 but you didn't do anything else 653 00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:06,782 about it, did you? 654 00:26:06,826 --> 00:26:07,870 Well... 655 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,698 Except leave. Seems to me 656 00:26:09,742 --> 00:26:11,352 you're at leastas culpable 657 00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,528 as my client. Maybe even more so. 658 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:15,835 Objection! Your Honor! 659 00:26:15,878 --> 00:26:18,098 No foundation. Badgering. 660 00:26:18,141 --> 00:26:21,101 Again, I have to ask this question for the second time, 661 00:26:21,144 --> 00:26:23,146 what is the question?! 662 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:24,887 Counsel is testifying! 663 00:26:24,931 --> 00:26:26,497 Sustained.All sustained. 664 00:26:26,541 --> 00:26:27,716 Mr. Palmer, 665 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,153 I will ask you one more time. 666 00:26:30,197 --> 00:26:33,200 Stop making speeches, start asking questions. 667 00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:37,508 Or I will dismiss the witness and hold you in contempt. 668 00:26:37,552 --> 00:26:40,511 I do apologize, Your Honor. 669 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:44,124 As it happens, I have no furtherquestions for this witness. 670 00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:45,125 [exhales] 671 00:26:45,168 --> 00:26:47,606 Let's take a 15-minute break. 672 00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:49,912 I don't believe for a second 673 00:26:49,956 --> 00:26:52,393 that he found that witness this morning. 674 00:26:52,436 --> 00:26:54,264 Can you prove it? 675 00:26:55,352 --> 00:26:57,224 Then it doesn't matter. 676 00:26:57,267 --> 00:26:58,486 Didn't anyone tell you? 677 00:26:58,529 --> 00:27:02,098 The law isa contact sport, too. 678 00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:04,753 You got tackled.He took you down. 679 00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:06,276 Now get up. 680 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,627 It's your ball. 681 00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:16,286 Your Honor, 682 00:27:16,330 --> 00:27:17,592 with the court's permission, 683 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:20,726 the defense would like to call Denise Danford. 684 00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:22,945 Scuse me. 685 00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:25,208 Objection, Your Honor. 686 00:27:25,252 --> 00:27:28,429 We have no information regarding this witness. 687 00:27:28,472 --> 00:27:31,258 Her name is nowhere on the witness list. 688 00:27:31,301 --> 00:27:34,217 Clearly, defense counsel is playing fast and loose 689 00:27:34,261 --> 00:27:36,263 with the rules of discovery. 690 00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:39,353 Is this true? 691 00:27:39,396 --> 00:27:42,661 Did you not share this witness'sname with opposing counsel? 692 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,358 Unfortunately, Your Honor, 693 00:27:44,401 --> 00:27:47,709 Mrs. Danford has beenvery, verydifficult to locate. 694 00:27:47,753 --> 00:27:50,320 But the good news is, after looking and looking, 695 00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:53,149 we were able to make contact with her this morning, 696 00:27:53,193 --> 00:27:54,585 shortly before trial. 697 00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:58,328 Or I promise we would have giventhe opposing counsel 698 00:27:58,372 --> 00:28:00,069 plenty of notice. 699 00:28:00,113 --> 00:28:01,854 I do hope that my esteemed colleague 700 00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:05,205 can find it in his heart to forgive me. 701 00:28:05,248 --> 00:28:07,729 I'm sure he can. 702 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,644 Let's swear in the witness. 703 00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:11,211 And as was the case 704 00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:13,866 when the shoe was on the other foot, Mr. Colón, 705 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:16,564 if you need extra time to prepare 706 00:28:16,607 --> 00:28:18,566 after direct examination, 707 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:20,394 we will make an accommodation. 708 00:28:20,437 --> 00:28:22,657 Thank you, Your Honor. 709 00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:26,008 DENISE: Finn and I 710 00:28:26,052 --> 00:28:28,097 tried to talk every Sunday. 711 00:28:28,141 --> 00:28:29,751 FaceTime. 712 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:31,448 For a while, it seemed like, 713 00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:34,495 every other call, he would mention this girl. 714 00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,366 Claire. 715 00:28:37,454 --> 00:28:39,718 And it was obviousfrom the way he talked about her 716 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:42,633 that...she was special. 717 00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:45,767 Then... 718 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:48,814 at the end of his first semesterjunior year, 719 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,337 we were gonna have a conversation 720 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:53,557 about perhaps applying for another student loan. 721 00:28:53,601 --> 00:28:56,299 And he told me not to worry about it. 722 00:28:56,343 --> 00:28:58,432 That he was leaving school. 723 00:28:58,475 --> 00:29:00,913 That he wanted to try living in New York. 724 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:03,263 And how did you feel about that? 725 00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:05,091 It scared me. 726 00:29:06,092 --> 00:29:08,224 New York scared me. 727 00:29:11,184 --> 00:29:13,360 [shudders] The first time I came to New York 728 00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:15,928 was to identify Finn's body. 729 00:29:18,147 --> 00:29:20,323 This is my second time. 730 00:29:22,369 --> 00:29:24,763 And I... [shudders] 731 00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:26,765 I wasn't sure how he was gonna do it, 732 00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:29,332 how he was going to pay for it. 733 00:29:30,856 --> 00:29:33,380 But he kept telling me not to worry about it. [chuckles] 734 00:29:33,423 --> 00:29:35,556 So I... 735 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,950 I tried my best not to. 736 00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:42,128 And I sensed that he was in love. 737 00:29:42,171 --> 00:29:44,304 So... 738 00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:47,437 I knew he wasn't here alone. 739 00:29:48,438 --> 00:29:49,875 Mrs. Danford, 740 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:52,094 your son died. 741 00:29:52,138 --> 00:29:54,444 But you're not a party to this litigation. 742 00:29:54,488 --> 00:29:57,230 Can you please tell the jury why? 743 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,669 Because I don't think it's that girl's fault. 744 00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:04,280 I'm sorry. I mean, I... 745 00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,065 I knowwe've never met, 746 00:30:06,108 --> 00:30:09,416 and I knowwe both lost our children. 747 00:30:09,459 --> 00:30:11,505 But in my heart of hearts, I-I... 748 00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,682 I just don't think that girl had anything to do with it. 749 00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:16,031 Objection, Your Honor. 750 00:30:16,075 --> 00:30:19,165 The witness is offering speculation as testimony 751 00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:21,471 and is addressing the plaintiff directly. 752 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,517 Please, Mrs. Danford, 753 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,345 just answerthe lawyer's questions 754 00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:27,782 with the factsas you understand them. 755 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:31,220 And don't address the plaintiff directly. 756 00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:33,396 I apologize. 757 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,485 CHUNK: So, Mrs. Danford, 758 00:30:35,529 --> 00:30:38,793 who do you think is responsiblefor your son's death? 759 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,535 I'm not sure anyone's responsible. 760 00:30:41,578 --> 00:30:43,798 It seems like it was an accident. 761 00:30:45,104 --> 00:30:46,235 I mean, 762 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,889 if you're gonna holdanyone responsible, 763 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:48,890 maybe... 764 00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:50,936 it's the building inspectors. 765 00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:54,156 But then they said the building was dangerous. 766 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,985 They ordered it locked. It was locked. 767 00:30:57,986 --> 00:31:00,554 So maybe it's the politicians. 768 00:31:00,597 --> 00:31:02,382 What do you mean by "the politicians"? 769 00:31:02,425 --> 00:31:04,558 The government. 770 00:31:04,601 --> 00:31:05,951 The people who are supposed to make sure 771 00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:07,778 this city is a place where everyone can live, 772 00:31:07,822 --> 00:31:09,606 not just rich people. 773 00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:12,522 Your Honor, I have withheld my initial objections 774 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:14,002 out of respect for Mrs. Danford. 775 00:31:14,046 --> 00:31:16,222 But, clearly, the defense is determined 776 00:31:16,265 --> 00:31:18,572 to go down this road. So I have to ask 777 00:31:18,615 --> 00:31:20,966 how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand. 778 00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:22,489 Objection sustained. 779 00:31:22,532 --> 00:31:23,969 Uh, Mr. Palmer, 780 00:31:24,012 --> 00:31:25,187 anything else? 781 00:31:25,231 --> 00:31:28,538 So, one last time, Mrs. Danford, 782 00:31:28,582 --> 00:31:31,019 do you think that my client is responsible 783 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:33,630 for your son's death? 784 00:31:33,674 --> 00:31:35,458 No. 785 00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:39,332 In fact, I look at her 786 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,377 and I see my son. 787 00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:44,815 She was in the same boat as the rest of them, 788 00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:47,862 just doing the best she could. 789 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,865 Maybe making some unwise choices, but... 790 00:31:50,909 --> 00:31:54,260 she meant no ill will towards anyone. 791 00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:57,611 She was just trying to put a roof over people's heads. 792 00:31:57,654 --> 00:32:00,005 Thank you, Mrs. Danford. 793 00:32:00,048 --> 00:32:01,876 No further questions. 794 00:32:09,449 --> 00:32:11,930 [quietly]:I feel them slipping away. 795 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,410 [exhales] 796 00:32:14,454 --> 00:32:16,499 Is Danny en route? 797 00:32:16,543 --> 00:32:19,285 20 minutes away. 798 00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:20,851 CHUNK: So, 799 00:32:20,895 --> 00:32:23,376 when Reggie Craven pointed out the bowing in the ceiling, 800 00:32:23,419 --> 00:32:25,465 how did you react? 801 00:32:25,508 --> 00:32:27,075 Honestly? 802 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,425 I thought... 803 00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:31,123 "Okay." 804 00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:34,169 And, "What would you like me to do about it?" 805 00:32:35,388 --> 00:32:38,347 I didn't think that it was dangerous, 806 00:32:38,391 --> 00:32:41,785 just kind of... ugly. 807 00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:45,050 And truthfully, the whole place was ugly. 808 00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:47,226 There were water stains everywhere. 809 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:49,228 The floor was uneven. 810 00:32:49,271 --> 00:32:51,970 And you could feel the wind whip through every night. 811 00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:55,277 I was much more worried that... 812 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:56,975 the neighbors would realize that we were stealing 813 00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,193 their electricity, 814 00:32:58,237 --> 00:33:00,369 and the space heaters would turn off. 815 00:33:00,413 --> 00:33:02,502 I was much more worried 816 00:33:02,545 --> 00:33:05,200 that the coffee shop and the hotel down the street 817 00:33:05,244 --> 00:33:07,028 were getting smart to us 818 00:33:07,072 --> 00:33:09,596 and would stop letting us use their bathrooms. 819 00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:11,685 But, I mean... 820 00:33:11,728 --> 00:33:14,296 it was free, 821 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:17,169 and we had space to paint 822 00:33:17,212 --> 00:33:19,823 and sculpt... 823 00:33:19,867 --> 00:33:21,608 and sleep. 824 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,610 Thank you, Miss Knowles. 825 00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,394 No further questions. 826 00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:31,792 Good afternoon, Miss Knowles. 827 00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:33,402 Good afternoon. 828 00:33:33,446 --> 00:33:35,056 You know, it never crossed your mind after Reggie Craven 829 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:38,929 pointed out what was going on above your head that maybe... 830 00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:41,410 you know, you should get the hell out of there? 831 00:33:42,455 --> 00:33:44,631 I guess I'm stupid. 832 00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:48,504 No. It never occurred to me. 833 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:51,638 Maybe because I knew that none of us had anywhere else to go. 834 00:33:51,681 --> 00:33:52,943 Mm-hmm. 835 00:33:52,987 --> 00:33:54,554 Your Honor, with the court's permission, 836 00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,904 the plaintiffs would like to enter into evidence 837 00:33:56,947 --> 00:33:58,732 a series of text messages: 838 00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:02,040 part of a group text between Miss Knowles 839 00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:02,779 and the two victims. 840 00:34:02,823 --> 00:34:04,564 Your Honor, again? 841 00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:06,392 This is trial by ambush! 842 00:34:06,435 --> 00:34:08,263 Now, why is thisnot a violation 843 00:34:08,307 --> 00:34:10,265 of the rules of discovery, Mr. Colón? 844 00:34:10,309 --> 00:34:14,356 [sighs] Truthfully, this is all my mistake, Your Honor. 845 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,837 It did not dawn on me to ask to see 846 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,275 the late Miss Waters's cell phone until yesterday. 847 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,103 And it's takenfrom then until now 848 00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:23,452 for my investigator 849 00:34:23,496 --> 00:34:25,280 to unlock her phone and uncover the messages 850 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,282 I'm about to share with you. 851 00:34:27,326 --> 00:34:29,415 I apologize, and I'm happy to go about it 852 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:31,460 in any way thatpleases the court. 853 00:34:31,504 --> 00:34:33,506 ButI do think the jury's gonna want to hear 854 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:35,638 the evidence I'm about to offer. 855 00:34:35,682 --> 00:34:36,813 [quietly]: He's good, isn't he? 856 00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:38,032 CHUNK:And are we supposed 857 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:39,599 to just take Mr. Colón's word for it 858 00:34:39,642 --> 00:34:41,253 that these texts are genuine? 859 00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:43,907 As I mentioned a moment ago,this is a three-way conversation 860 00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:46,475 between Claire, her boyfriend Finn, 861 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:47,737 and Miss Knowles. 862 00:34:47,781 --> 00:34:50,131 All counsel has to dois reach out 863 00:34:50,175 --> 00:34:52,307 to his client and ask to see her cell phone. 864 00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:55,397 Although I fully intendon asking her in a minuteif she remembers 865 00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:58,270 sending and receiving those messages. 866 00:34:58,313 --> 00:35:01,142 HUDSON: Since I don't know where you're going, Counsel, 867 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:05,103 and since Miss Knowles isscheduled as our final witness, 868 00:35:05,146 --> 00:35:08,367 I feel I have no real choice but to let you proceed. 869 00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:10,195 But, Mr. Colón, 870 00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:11,848 be forewarned, 871 00:35:11,892 --> 00:35:15,722 if you stray outside the lines of legal propriety, 872 00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:19,900 I will cite you so fast it will make your head spin. 873 00:35:19,943 --> 00:35:22,163 Understood, Your Honor. Thank you. 874 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:23,686 Now, Miss Knowles... 875 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:29,214 [sighs] this here isa text message you sent 876 00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:31,259 to Claire Waters and Finn Danford 877 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,087 before they moved into the warehouse. 878 00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:34,393 Now, would you please read it 879 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:36,917 to the court? 880 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,658 "Hey, Claire and Finn. 881 00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:43,402 "I've decided I'm moving my bedto a different part of the loft. 882 00:35:43,445 --> 00:35:46,056 "I want you to sleep where I've been. 883 00:35:47,362 --> 00:35:49,147 "It's far away from everyone else, 884 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:52,280 and it will give the two of yousome privacy." 885 00:35:52,324 --> 00:35:54,152 You remember sending that? 886 00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:55,805 Yeah. I do. 887 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:58,199 Let me try to understand this. 888 00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:02,464 You'd been sleeping underneath the bulge in the ceiling, 889 00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:05,075 but after Reggie Craven warned you about it, 890 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,948 you moved your bedand offered that spot 891 00:36:07,991 --> 00:36:09,906 to my client's daughter and her boyfriend. 892 00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:11,343 That's true, but... 893 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:12,779 But what? 894 00:36:12,822 --> 00:36:14,998 You discovered your life was in danger, 895 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:16,435 and you protected yourself 896 00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:18,219 at the expense of two other people. 897 00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:21,440 Objection. Counsel is badgering the witness. 898 00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:22,789 Overruled. 899 00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:25,008 The witness shall answer.That is what happened, 900 00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:26,358 isn't it? 901 00:36:27,402 --> 00:36:28,969 [crying]: I made the move 902 00:36:29,012 --> 00:36:30,449 because they were a couple. 903 00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:32,712 And it was the sleeping space that was the furthest 904 00:36:32,755 --> 00:36:34,279 from everybody else. 905 00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,629 It was as simple as that. 906 00:36:36,672 --> 00:36:39,458 I didn't know that there was gonna be 907 00:36:39,501 --> 00:36:40,720 a torrential rainstorm. 908 00:36:40,763 --> 00:36:43,244 I didn't know that the roofwas gonna cave in. 909 00:36:43,288 --> 00:36:46,116 I was just trying to be nice. 910 00:36:48,423 --> 00:36:50,643 Maybe you did and maybe you didn't. 911 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:53,776 But that is for the jury to decide. 912 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:56,083 Nothing further, Your Honor. 913 00:37:02,611 --> 00:37:04,874 Benny owned that courtroom. 914 00:37:04,918 --> 00:37:06,876 He's been at ita long time. 915 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,965 All the theatrics, the timing, 916 00:37:09,009 --> 00:37:10,967 the "we just found this witness," 917 00:37:11,011 --> 00:37:13,274 "we just found this evidence." 918 00:37:13,318 --> 00:37:15,537 He made that what the trial was about. 919 00:37:15,581 --> 00:37:17,017 Mm. 920 00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:19,062 The job is to win. 921 00:37:19,106 --> 00:37:21,064 Yeah, well... 922 00:37:21,108 --> 00:37:23,502 It just doesn't seem right. 923 00:37:23,545 --> 00:37:25,373 How do you mean? 924 00:37:25,417 --> 00:37:28,507 If Evelyn loses, if his client loses, 925 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:30,726 practically nothing changes in her life. 926 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,512 She gets to go home to the same 800-thread-count sheet 927 00:37:33,555 --> 00:37:36,558 she's been sleeping in for the past two decades. 928 00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:39,822 But if Lily loses, if ourclient loses, 929 00:37:39,866 --> 00:37:42,303 everything changes. 930 00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:44,523 She's staring at a mountain of debt, 931 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:46,525 possibly a decade in prison, 932 00:37:46,568 --> 00:37:49,658 and I will have profoundly failed her. 933 00:37:52,705 --> 00:37:55,708 Welcome to a lifein the law, Counselor. 934 00:38:01,757 --> 00:38:03,324 [knocking] 935 00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:04,325 BULL: Yes? 936 00:38:04,369 --> 00:38:05,892 Any word? 937 00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:08,634 Ask the lawyer. 938 00:38:08,677 --> 00:38:11,114 Nope. Not a peep. 939 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,726 Three days. 940 00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:17,295 What the heck could the jurybe talking about for three days? 941 00:38:17,338 --> 00:38:18,731 I'm concerned they're debating 942 00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:21,342 how much pain to inflict on Lily. 943 00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:22,952 As in how many dollars? 944 00:38:22,996 --> 00:38:24,998 As in how many millions. 945 00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:27,435 Hard to deny a mother who's lost her only child. 946 00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:30,830 Wow. You're a big up. Positively inspirational. 947 00:38:30,873 --> 00:38:32,484 You know what they say. 948 00:38:32,527 --> 00:38:35,138 "Expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed." 949 00:38:35,182 --> 00:38:38,098 You allow this kind of behaviorin your office? 950 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:40,840 I've been trying to talk sense into him all morning. 951 00:38:40,883 --> 00:38:42,885 Look, we picked a good jury. 952 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,366 Foreperson looked like she was siding with us. 953 00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:48,021 Judge instructed them to stick to the facts and the evidence. 954 00:38:48,064 --> 00:38:50,980 Call me crazy, but I prefer to keep a good thought. 955 00:38:52,417 --> 00:38:54,941 It's easy to find someone not guilty. 956 00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:56,986 It's hard to find someone culpable, 957 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:59,337 particularly when there are deaths involved. 958 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,295 You know, many people take no pleasure 959 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:02,992 in ruining someone else's life. 960 00:39:03,036 --> 00:39:04,167 That's why it takes juries 961 00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:07,040 a while to do it. 962 00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:09,172 So you're pretty convincedthey're gonna find Lily liable? 963 00:39:09,216 --> 00:39:11,523 I can't imagine what else they'd be talking about 964 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:12,872 this whole time. 965 00:39:12,915 --> 00:39:14,047 Wonder what Bull thinks. 966 00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:15,831 Why don't you ask him? 967 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:17,224 Jury's behind closed doors. 968 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:19,661 Both sides of the case have rested. 969 00:39:19,705 --> 00:39:21,794 We're allowed to talk to each other now. 970 00:39:21,837 --> 00:39:24,449 Well, I know. I just... I think we both just felt like 971 00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:26,102 the time to compare notes is 972 00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:29,192 after it's all over, after there's a verdict. 973 00:39:29,236 --> 00:39:31,107 You spoken to Bull? 974 00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:32,500 Not yet. 975 00:39:32,544 --> 00:39:35,024 I may walk upstairs in a little while. 976 00:39:35,068 --> 00:39:36,635 [phone vibrates] 977 00:39:36,678 --> 00:39:38,419 Ooh. Best laid plans... 978 00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:43,119 Jury's back. 979 00:39:43,163 --> 00:39:44,686 [gavel bangs] 980 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,601 HUDSON: Madam Foreperson, 981 00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:48,603 has the jury reached a verdict? 982 00:39:48,647 --> 00:39:50,039 We have. 983 00:39:50,083 --> 00:39:51,345 How do you find? 984 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,739 Your Honor, we wantedto avoid a deadlock, 985 00:39:53,782 --> 00:39:55,436 so we reacheda compromise agreement. 986 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,135 We feel for both sidesin this case, and... 987 00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:00,441 so both sides won a little, 988 00:40:00,485 --> 00:40:02,443 and both sides losta little, and... 989 00:40:02,487 --> 00:40:04,750 Just render your verdict, please. 990 00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:08,188 We find the defendant,Lily Knowles, 991 00:40:08,231 --> 00:40:11,147 liable for the deathof Claire Waters. 992 00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:17,980 And we assess the followingfinancial damages, 993 00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:20,287 payable to Evelyn Waters, 994 00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:23,072 in the amountof one dollar. 995 00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:25,205 ♪ 996 00:40:30,123 --> 00:40:31,516 [whispers]:This is good. 997 00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:41,308 HUDSON: Ladies and gentlemen, the jury has spoken. 998 00:40:41,351 --> 00:40:43,179 [whispers]: Loud and clear. 999 00:40:44,224 --> 00:40:46,052 And we are adjourned. 1000 00:40:47,183 --> 00:40:49,185 [exhales] 1001 00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:59,544 A.D.A. Kiehl. 1002 00:40:59,587 --> 00:41:01,328 You found me.I've been 1003 00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:02,634 in court all day. 1004 00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:05,071 My boss just gave me a message from my sister 1005 00:41:05,114 --> 00:41:06,594 that you were looking for me. 1006 00:41:06,638 --> 00:41:09,118 [claps hands]I called your office, and they said 1007 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:11,251 you were here. I literally 1008 00:41:11,294 --> 00:41:13,558 just got the verdict and ran right over here. 1009 00:41:13,601 --> 00:41:15,908 Is thisthe roof-collapsing thing? 1010 00:41:15,951 --> 00:41:17,213 The one where your firm is representing 1011 00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:18,301 both sides of the case? 1012 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:19,999 Oh, yeah, that's the one. 1013 00:41:20,042 --> 00:41:21,566 Your side win? 1014 00:41:21,609 --> 00:41:22,915 We did. 1015 00:41:22,958 --> 00:41:25,308 Jury found for the plaintiff. 1016 00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:26,440 Congratulations. 1017 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:27,485 Oh, yeah. 1018 00:41:27,528 --> 00:41:30,270 Awarded her a whole dollar. 1019 00:41:30,313 --> 00:41:31,619 You working contingency? 1020 00:41:31,663 --> 00:41:33,186 Mm, mm-mm. 1021 00:41:33,229 --> 00:41:34,492 No, God, no. 1022 00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:36,581 The other side was pro bono, 1023 00:41:36,624 --> 00:41:39,627 so who knows how we'll make outat the end. 1024 00:41:39,671 --> 00:41:41,194 That sounds pretty nutty. 1025 00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:42,587 Yeah. 1026 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:43,762 No. 1027 00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:45,328 It was kind of fun, actually. 1028 00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:47,592 It was the first time in a whileI've flown solo, 1029 00:41:47,635 --> 00:41:51,421 no Dr. Bull flying the plane, just me, you know? 1030 00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:53,162 I kind of dug it. 1031 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:54,555 Mm. 1032 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,384 But that can't be why you wanted to see me. 1033 00:41:57,427 --> 00:41:58,907 Mm. 1034 00:41:58,951 --> 00:42:01,910 Right. So, I know we just had an election this year, 1035 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:03,303 so this is gonna sound 1036 00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:05,479 a little bit strange,but, um, tomorrow morning 1037 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,829 you're gonna read that my boss,our current D.A., 1038 00:42:07,873 --> 00:42:11,137 is up to his ears in a campaign finance scandal. 1039 00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:13,400 It turns out he is 1040 00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:15,054 the definition of dirty. 1041 00:42:15,097 --> 00:42:18,536 And so that means there's gonnabe another election in April. 1042 00:42:19,624 --> 00:42:21,190 Oh, my God, I'm sorry, man. 1043 00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:23,453 Yeah, which, uh,brings me to the other thing. 1044 00:42:23,497 --> 00:42:25,238 Benny... 1045 00:42:25,281 --> 00:42:28,110 would you ever consider runningto be the district attorney 1046 00:42:28,154 --> 00:42:30,199 for the City of New York? 1047 00:42:30,243 --> 00:42:33,420 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1048 00:42:33,463 --> 00:42:36,205 and TOYOTA. 1049 00:42:36,249 --> 00:42:39,426 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 76446

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