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[Jesse]
This story is about America.
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It's about who we are,
where we've come from,
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what we stand for.
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It's about freedom.
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And this story is my story.
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Growing up as an American,
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I always knew that America was unique because it was free.
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But today, I'm watching
the freedoms that we have
slip away.
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So I set out on a journey
across the world
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to learn more about
the fight against freedom,
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and to uncover the agenda
behind it.
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This is my journey.
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For me, this story began
as a way to explore an issue
that I was passionate about.
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Coming from California
and living near the capital,
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the topic of gun control was
a regular political issue
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that people like me
were dealing with.
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I was raised around guns
and growing up, my dad
was an avid hunter
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but until the recent push
for more gun control,
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I never really understood
how important a right
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the Second Amendment
guaranteed.
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And in America over
the past few years,
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there has been a fairly steady battle against that right.
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That idea was really
the springboard
for this journey.
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I had questions.
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What would happen
to our country if our guns
were taken away?
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What was the point of it all?
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Where is America headed?
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But my first question-
How did this all start?
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[operator] Newtown 911, what's the location and emergency?
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[woman 1] Sandy Hook school,
I think there's somebody
shooting in here.
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In Sandy Hook school.
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[operator] Okay, what makes
you think that?
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[woman 1] Because somebody's
got his gun.
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I saw a glimpse of somebody
running down the hallway.
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[operator] Newtown 911,
what's the address?
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[woman 2] It's 10 Dickinson Drive in Sandy Hook. Newtown, Connecticut.
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[operator] What's going on
at 10 Dickinson Drive?
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[woman 2] It sounds like there are gunshots in the hallway.
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[operator] Keep everybody calm, get everybody down,
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get everybody away
from the windows, okay?
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[operator] Newtown 911, what's the location of the emergency?
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[caller]
Sandy Hook Elementary School
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I believe they're
shooting at the front...
at the front glass.
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Something is going on.
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Right here in Newtown,
Connecticut, the site today
of a mass shooting...
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What would drive a young man
to do such a thing?
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He was armed to the teeth
with legally purchased guns
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and went from obscurity
to infamy.
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[Jesse]
On December 14, 2012,
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Adam Lanza entered
Sandy Hook Elementary School
in Newtown, Connecticut,
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and went on a killing spree.
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That day he shot and killed
20 elementary school children
and six teachers,
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accomplishing the second
deadliest school shooting
in American history.
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After that, there was
a firestorm of debate
over gun control laws
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all across America.
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President Obama gave
impassioned speeches
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and legislatives became
fired up
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to try and fix the issue
of gun violence and
mass shootings
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by pushing for more
restrictive gun control laws,
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spanning everything from
tighter background checks
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to assault weapons bans.
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And along with the discussion, the rhetoric flew.
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I'm not remotely against
people having the right
to bear arms,
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I'm seriously against the right to have military style assault weapons
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to blow kids' brains
to pieces in school.
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Our journey is not complete
until all our children,
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from the streets of Detroit
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to the hills of Appalachia, to the quiet lanes of Newtown,
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know that they are cared for.
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[Jesse] One of the first
stops in my journey was
with Tim Donnelly,
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a former California State Assemblyman from the mountains of southern California.
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[Jesse]
From a political perspective,
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how did this assault on
the Second Amendment begin?
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It started with a tragedy.
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We saw the tragedy at Sandy Hook
in Connecticut,
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and as soon as that happened,
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the liberals got out
Saul Alinsky's play book,
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and didn't want to let
a tragedy go to waste.
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So instead of reacting
in a calm, responsible manner,
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and making sure that
we protect the kids,
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they went right after the right
of people to protect themselves.
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Here's the thing,
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there's not a single law
that was proposed across
the entire United States
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that would have prevented
that tragedy.
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In fact, that kid tried
to buy the weapon
at a gun store
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that wouldn't take
the background check,
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and therefore he was denied
the right to legally purchase
a firearm.
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Criminals don't abide
by laws, period. That's why
they're criminals.
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They're outside of the law.
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And this idea that we're gonna
deprive even teachers,
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why shouldn't the teacher
have a right to defend her life
and the life of her children?
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Why do we wanna deny her
the right to defend her life
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and how's that gonna make
anybody else safer?
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[Jesse] I wanted to get a feel for the reality of how firearms impact crime.
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So I figured the best
place to do that was
in my own county,
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and I met with my sheriff,
John D'Agostini.
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When I took office, there were
roughly 720 licensed
concealed weapons carriers
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in the county.
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I've been in office
almost three years now,
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we have over 2,000.
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Our gun crime rate
hasn't gone up,
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we don't have blood running
in the streets,
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it's not the Old West,
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that's not the case.
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We have more law-abiding
citizens that are responsible,
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people that are responsibly
exercising their
Second Amendment right
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to carry a concealed weapon.
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And I'm comfortable that
if evil came into my county,
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and intended to do harm,
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we wouldn't have
a mass incident,
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we'd have a bad guy
neutralized.
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The old saying now
is kind of a buzzword
in the last year is,
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"The only thing that stops
a bad guy with a gun is
a good guy with a gun."
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Good guys with guns don't
get into trouble.
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Bad guys with guns will
always get into trouble.
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You are never going to keep,
no matter what the laws are,
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keep guns out of the hands
of bad guys.
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It's not going to happen.
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How about we just make sure
that law-abiding citizens
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are able to exercise their
Second Amendment rights
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to fort those bad guys
that do have firearms.
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[Jesse] The rhetoric from
the media surrounding
the gun control debate
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had really interested me.
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I traveled to New York City to speak with former governor, Mike Huckabee.
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First of all, liberals would
love to get rid of guns
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because liberals, if they
don't understand something,
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they want to eliminate it
so they don't have to have
an honest assessment of it.
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So because of that arrogance,
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they don't want anyone else
to own a gun,
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and they don't want
anyone else to understand,
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and they're not interested
in the facts, thank you,
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because their minds have
already been made up.
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I get so tired of liberals
when they say, "If we can
just save even one life--"
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If there is a step we can take
that will save just one child,
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just one parent,
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just another town from
experiencing the same grief
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that some of the moms and dads
who are here have endured,
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then we should be doing it.
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That sounds so stupid if you
stop to think about it
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'cause we could save a lot
of lives getting out of cars,
airplanes, trains, boats.
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People die all kinds of ways
everyday in America,
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and it's easier for them
to have every person get
rid of his or her guns
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and it would be for them
to take the time
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to think about the fact that
guns are not the real problem.
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It's people who have
an intent to kill,
who are the real problem.
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[Jesse] David Keene
is the Editorial Editor
of theWashington Times
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and formally served as the president of The National Rifle Association.
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And he brings a unique
perspective to the table,
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that of both a gun expert
and an expert in media
and rhetoric.
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The media, by and large
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does not enter coverage
of firearms related stories
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as an unbiased journalistic...
you know, storyteller
or reporter.
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Let me give you an example.
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In the course of the gun debate
of the year or so ago,
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I was invited to attend
and be the guest
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at what's known as
theChristian Science Monitor
Breakfast in Washington.
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That used to be called
theSperling Breakfast.
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One of the questions that arose
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was the question
of the so-called
"gun show loophole,"
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that some of these folks
like to talk about.
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And I finally, after answering
the question, said,
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"How many people at this table
have ever attended a gun show?"
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-Nobody.
-Hmm.
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And so I said, "It happens that
a very large gun show next week
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will be taking place
in sub-urban Virginia,
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and we're sending around
a sign-up sheet right now.
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Anybody who would like to
attend this gun show
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can go with me as my guest."
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TheChristian Science Monitor
called me a few days later,
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and how many people
do you think signed up?
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None.
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Because they prefer to write
something based on their
own prejudices
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than actually find out
what it was like
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before they wrote their stories.
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[Jesse] Gun control advocates have built an entire case based off of rhetoric and emotion
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rather than reason.
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They had turned
guns into criminals,
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and gun owners, the backbone
of American gun culture,
into extremists.
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Jessie Duff and Julie Golob
are both world champion
pistol shooters
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whose lives are centered
around that gun culture
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and are proof of who gun owners really are.
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Something that I think gets
pumped out from the media
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is this idea that, essentially
any person that loves guns
and owns guns
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is probably in some way,
a yahoo, a redneck,
or just kind of a loser.
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-Yeah.
-Um...
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Being with all of these people,
what do you think of that view?
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I think the media
portrays us completely wrong,
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which, you know, they do that
for their advantage.
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In the shooting industry,
you have every walk of life
you can imagine.
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You have someone such as myself, a mid-twenties female, who loves to shoot.
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I do girly things as well.
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I make sure of my makeup,
and I have diamond earrings on
when I go shoot.
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-That's not typical.
-Yeah.
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Then you have your
older generation that
grew up with firearms
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and love to compete, and just
go out and do what they can,
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you have the younger generation
coming in,
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you have any type of person
you can imagine
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just enjoying firearms.
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And for us to be stereotyped
in such a way
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is... is not fair to us.
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For me in particular,
guns have always been
a part of my family,
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but I've always been tied in
closely to the roots of
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the concept of being able to
not only have guns for fun
and hunting and shooting,
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but also from the primary
aspect of that's what
makes us Americans.
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If they would take a moment
to look into our world,
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they would realize that...
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people that enjoy the firearms and traditions, and everything that go with it,
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nine times out of ten, we're
just good... good-hearted,
red-blooded Americans
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that love our traditions
and what these firearms mean.
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-It's just a way of life for us.
-Yeah.
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[Jesse] What I was learning
through all of this was that
in almost every way
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whether it came down to guns
themselves or gun owners
in America,
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gun control advocates didn't
even understand the issue.
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And as I studied it more,
that became abundantly clear.
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This is a ghost gun.
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What's a barrel shroud and why should we regulate it?
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-I actually don't know
what a barrel shroud is--
-Oh, okay.
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-It's in your legislation.
-It's a shoulder thing
that goes up.
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No.
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This right here has the ability
with a .30-caliber clip
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to disperse with 30 bullets
within half a second.
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Thirty magazine clip
in half a second.
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For most purposes,
having these... these...
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these magazine, um, clips
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that have... that have
more than 15 rounds in them
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there's really no purpose for those except for shooting targets or shooting people.
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Pistols are different.
You'll have to pull
the trigger each time.
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An assault weapon,
you basically hold and it goes
[imitates gun sound]
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[Jesse]
Yeah, they don't get it.
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And these are the people
who are claiming to be
the experts in the issue.
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[Donnelly] Ultimately,
the founders were afraid
of the government.
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They were afraid of investing
too much power,
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central control in one body.
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And that's what we have.
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The more and more you deprive
the people of the right to
defend their lives,
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the more they depend
on the government.
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Pretty soon, the government
becomes so powerful that
the only people who have guns
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are the military and the police.
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It doesn't matter
where your politics are.
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This is not a Republican
or a Democrat issue,
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it's not a right or left issue,
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this is an American issue.
This is about freedom.
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This is about fundamentally,
whether you're gonna live free
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or you're gonna let
the government control you
and rule over you
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rather than rule
at your consent,
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which is what the promise was
of the founding documents.
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In the Declaration of
Independence,
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it says that the power
is derived from the Creator.
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It is given to the people,
and the people lend it
to the government.
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[Jesse] So this entire issue
really came back down
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to the time when
the Constitution was written,
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in the context to that
the founders had when
they were drafting it.
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Not too far from my hometown
lives Mike Winther,
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the head of the Institute
for Principle Studies
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and a long-time student
of the Constitution.
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[Winther]
Let's start with the concept
of the Constitution.
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When you're framing
a government, there's two ways
you can frame it legally.
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You can frame a government
with a document that lists
all the "Do not do's,"
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so the government can't do this,
can't do this, can't do this.
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If that is the only way
you frame your government,
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that "Do not do" list would
have to be pretty long.
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It would be an infinite list.
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Our Constitution was not framed
as a "Do not do" list.
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Our Constitution was framed
with the opposite view of
a "Can do" list.
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And so what our Constitution is,
is the "Can do" list.
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"Here's the list of enumerated powers that the federal government can have."
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So the US Constitution
and the government
that it created
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is a creation of the states,
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and the states were taking
their sovereign power
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and granting certain powers
and authorities to this
federal government.
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So take away the Bill of Rights
because that came along later.
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Without first ten amendments,
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the Bill of Rights,
the Constitution
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grants the federal government
no power to infringe on
freedom of speech.
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It grants the government
no power to infringe on
freedom of religion.
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It grants the government
no power to infringe on
the right to keep and bear arms.
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So without the Second Amendment,
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our gun rights should be still
secure under the Constitution.
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You can use the layout, 30 or 40 quotations from founders
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all saying that rights
come from God.
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And without that idea of
rights coming from God,
there's no liberty,
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because if government
gives you your rights,
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then government can
take them away.
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[Jesse] So I was hearing that constitutionally, all authority that the government has
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is granted by the people.
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And therefore, the governing
authorities are subject to
the people's control.
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But it seems many lawmakers
either ignore or refuse to
understand that idea.
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I spoke with South Carolina Attorney General, Alan Wilson,
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also the head of US Attorney Generals Association, about this fact,
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and asked why the anti-gun leftists disregarded the truth.
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[Wilson] You know,
what's interesting about
the Second Amendment,
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if you look at the second part,
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"the right of the people
to bear arms,
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to keep and bear arms
shall not be infringed."
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What's interesting about
that is, the way it's
written is, it's that...
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the amendment presupposes
that the right doesn't
come from government.
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It says that that's a right
that shall not be infringed.
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It's telling the government
"You can't infringe
on the right."
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The right pre-exists
the government.
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The right to possess
firearms does not come
from the government.
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It's an inherent right
that we have,
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and the amendment is
a restriction on government.
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Why are there so many
people in power today
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that just... it's almost like
they refuse to try and even
understand it that way?
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Because if they educated
themselves on the issue,
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then it would contradict
their beliefs and views,
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and people don't
want to challenge
their beliefs and views,
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they want to validate them.
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And a lot of folks who
are radical on an extreme
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on trying to curtail
the Second Amendment...
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it's not about making
things better, it's about
making you feel better.
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[Jesse] In the course
of the gun debate
after Newtown,
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none of these ideas have ever really even been discussed,
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but they're unique, and they're important to debate.
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Is the truth just
being passed over?
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I think President Obama was
sort of the drum major for
ignorance when it came to guns.
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He clearly wanted to demonize
the guns,
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whether it was after
Sandy Hook or the theater
shooting in Colorado,
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all of which were horrible,
but all of which happened
in gun-free zones.
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And you think about if
gun-free zones were the answer,
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if taking guns and making
them inaccessible
to law-abiding citizens,
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if that were the answer,
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how come the worst
mass-murder crimes we've had
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have happened
in gun-free zones?
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It's because people
who were gonna use a gun
to commit a felony
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and gonna kill somebody
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pay no attention to the fact
that it's a gun-free zone.
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The fact is, if people
don't have a gun,
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they'll use a stick,
they'll use a knife,
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they'll use a bomb,
they'll use a rope,
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they'll use whatever
they may have at hand.
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You know, it's the, again,
irrational approach
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that so many people have
toward guns
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that they don't apply
to any other type of
instrument of death.
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[Jesse] So I'd heard
a lot of things about guns
by this point,
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that they were big,
bad killing machines
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with a capability of doing
extreme amounts of damage,
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and because of that, they
should be essentially banned,
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kept out of the hands of
people because killing was
their only real purpose.
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But that isn't true.
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The National Safety Council once released a study that said
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that guns were used 80% more often to protect lives than they were used in crimes.
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And other studies show
that they were used
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almost 2.5 million times
per year in self-defense.
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I traveled to the suburbs
of Washington DC to meet
with West Taylor.
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West spent 42 years
as a law enforcement
officer in DC.
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And I spoke with him
because he had
a different story to tell
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than the one that
I had been hearing.
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It was about 10:15
in the evening,
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and we had retired,
gone to bed, and I was
watching television,
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my wife was asleep,
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and I heard a couple of loud,
banging noises downstairs.
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So, of course, I was...
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I'd never heard that kind
of noise before, all the time
we'd been here,
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so I went to investigate.
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So I walked to the door,
put the weapon behind me
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so as not to frighten anyone,
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and I opened the door.
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As I get to here, I could see
the hooded masked subjects.
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One to the left lunges at me,
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the one to my right raises
an aluminum baseball bat
to strike me.
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I fell back into the hallway,
produced the weapon,
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-and started to fire.
-Okay.
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At this point,
they turned to run.
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Okay.
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So--
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And how many rounds
did you fire at--
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Approximately six rounds
from the Walther PPK.
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-Okay.
-It's a small caliber weapon,
so...
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They turned to run,
they ran down the driveway,
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I couldn't see where
the one that had lunged
at me initially had gone to.
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The one that had
the baseball bat ran
down the driveway,
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jumped the bushes,
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fell into the yard, and that's
where he stayed.
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-Those are the bloodstains.
-Those are the--
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Those are the bloodstains from
the subject that expired.
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-Really?
-Yeah.
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[Jesse] Wow.
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So you can see how close
they actually came.
They actually had,
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if you consider their arms,
they had actually
entered the home,
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and then they turned to run,
so he fell into the yard.
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There's still one of these
subjects that's out here and I
have no idea where they're at.
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So I come down the stairs,
I could see this perpetrator
laying in the yard,
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and I stop about right here
because he's there.
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Okay.
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And I'm standing
just about like this,
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and I'm trying to look around,
and all of a sudden
I hear a car start.
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I look over my right shoulder,
the car is right there,
just ahead of the mailbox,
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and the backup lights
are on and it's backing
in my direction.
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So I put the Glock in this...
I'm trying to run out of
the way and fire.
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And at that point in time,
they put it in drive,
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and fled up the street.
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-Okay.
-Yeah.
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I've been in law enforcement
for 42 years.
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And you still work
in law enforcement?
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And I still work
in law enforcement.
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But this is the first time
in my life I felt actually
unsafe in my own home.
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What are the gun laws
in Maryland like?
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-Are they pretty strict?
-Well, very restrictive.
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They've had a 10-round magazine
capacity for a long time.
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So fortunately,
I had two weapons,
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which obviously I needed.
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Ten rounds would certainly
not have been enough
in this particular situation.
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So, if that had been in place
at that point and you had
complied with it,
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you probably wouldn't be here.
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I would not.
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[Jesse] So the research that
I had turned up
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just wasn't working
with the rhetoric that
I was hearing.
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The way that the issue
was being portrayed,
"guns were bad,
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and making it more
difficult to own them
would prevent violence."
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But West's story among
countless others seemed to
contradict that theory.
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So I looked more heavily
into the numbers and this
was what I came up with.
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Looking at the statistics, I found that the United States of America
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is number one
on the list of civilian
firearms ownership,
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with 88.8 firearms
per hundred citizens.
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Out of the approximately
650 million civilian-owned
firearms worldwide,
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US citizens alone own
almost 270 million of these.
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However, in spite of the high
rate of gun ownership,
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the US is still only 28th
in the world in gun murders
per 100,000 people.
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Between the years
of 1992 and 2011,
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a time when US gun regulation became much less restrictive,
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the violent crime rate
in the United States
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fell from 757.7
per 100,000 people
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to 386.34 per 100,000 people.
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And at the same time,
the murder rate fell from
9.3 per 100,000 to 4.7.
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Again, all of these drops
were in conjunction with
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the lessening
of gun restrictions
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and the increase
of ownership.
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Now let's
look at the other side.
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The city of Chicago, Illinois
has the strictest gun laws
in the entire nation,
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and yet the murder rate there
is one of the highest,
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giving Chicago the unenviable titles of deadliest global city
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and murder capital
of the world.
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Well, what if Chicago
simply has this issue
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because of the fact that
it's a large city,
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possibly filled with gangs
and serial killers?
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Well, in conjunction
with Chicago, we can also
look at Australia.
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In 1996, carrying a couple of semi- automatic rifles,
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Martin Bryant entered the town of Port Arthur, Australia,
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and proceeded to kill 35
and wound 21.
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He was caught by police
the next day
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but public opinion had
already been swayed
in favor of gun control,
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and the government placed
an almost draconian gun ban
on the people of Australia.
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However, it had the opposite effect that they were seeking.
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Within a short time, the rate
of gun murders had increased
by almost 19%
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and armed robberies
were up about 69%.
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So, obviously gun control
is ineffective.
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Well, the simple fact remains that gun control worldwide does not achieve the basic ends
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that politicians say
that they desire.
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Peace, safety,
and the reduction
of gun-related violence.
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However, these numbers
aren't difficult to find.
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So politicians must be
ignoring them.
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Why are they pushing
so strongly for gun control
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when their fix for
the problem of gun violence
is an ineffective system?
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There is no such thing
as gun control.
There's only people control.
460
00:24:55,563 --> 00:24:57,806
There is only
government control.
461
00:24:57,841 --> 00:25:00,499
And we've seen,
played out in history,
462
00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,984
when the government
wants to control,
463
00:25:03,018 --> 00:25:06,228
it owns the arms.
464
00:25:06,263 --> 00:25:09,887
And when you take away
the right of people
to bear arms...
465
00:25:09,922 --> 00:25:14,547
you saw it with
the confiscation of weapons
under Hitler in Germany,
466
00:25:14,582 --> 00:25:17,550
you saw it under Stalin,
467
00:25:17,585 --> 00:25:22,521
and what happens is that
the government controls
your right to free speech.
468
00:25:22,555 --> 00:25:23,694
There is no right to protest,
469
00:25:23,729 --> 00:25:25,627
there is no right
to lawfully assemble.
470
00:25:25,662 --> 00:25:29,493
If you don't have the right
to keep and bear arms,
471
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:33,842
then the government, who
controls the police force
and the military,
472
00:25:33,877 --> 00:25:37,777
they will control, whether
or not you are able to
actually exercise that right.
473
00:25:37,812 --> 00:25:42,161
I think we have to understand
gun control is really not
about gun control.
474
00:25:42,195 --> 00:25:43,576
It's about people control.
475
00:25:43,611 --> 00:25:45,233
That's what it's really about.
476
00:25:45,267 --> 00:25:48,477
It's when politicians
decide that they wanna
control other people.
477
00:25:48,512 --> 00:25:51,653
They wanna control
their behavior, they wanna
limit their freedom,
478
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:54,380
they want to dictate
to their lives,
479
00:25:54,414 --> 00:25:58,867
they wanna keep them within
the boundaries of what they,
the politicians believe
480
00:25:58,902 --> 00:26:00,697
would be
the appropriate behavior.
481
00:26:00,731 --> 00:26:04,563
And whether that's,
you can believe things but
you can't believe too much.
482
00:26:04,597 --> 00:26:06,288
And if your belief
conflicts with
483
00:26:06,323 --> 00:26:09,464
what some government official
thinks you should believe,
484
00:26:09,498 --> 00:26:11,052
government wins.
485
00:26:11,086 --> 00:26:15,470
Or if gun ownership
conflicts with what
some politician thinks,
486
00:26:15,504 --> 00:26:19,923
the politician wins over
your right to protect yourself
and your family.
487
00:26:19,957 --> 00:26:22,270
This is not how
our founders saw America.
488
00:26:22,304 --> 00:26:27,206
We have witnessed
epidemics of tyranny
throughout history,
489
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,728
and we are watching one
start to take place here
in the United States,
490
00:26:31,762 --> 00:26:36,629
two hundred and forty years
after the revolution.
491
00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:42,462
We are seeing the very
foundations of our freedom
492
00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:48,814
are being eroded and ultimately
they're at threat.
493
00:26:48,848 --> 00:26:52,611
[Jesse] I had never thought
about freedom as being
at threat before,
494
00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:54,405
but it's an interesting
concept.
495
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,166
Somehow to those in power,
496
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,996
the ability to be held
accountable by their people
concerns them.
497
00:27:01,205 --> 00:27:03,898
So my next big question
needed an answer.
498
00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:06,763
If, like I had seen,
gun control isn't
constitutional,
499
00:27:06,797 --> 00:27:09,731
and it doesn't even work, then what's the purpose for it?
500
00:27:09,766 --> 00:27:13,148
This question was really
the defining question
for my entire journey.
501
00:27:13,183 --> 00:27:16,117
What is the deeper agenda
behind gun control?
502
00:27:18,706 --> 00:27:20,466
So what I was
figuring out was that
503
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,676
the power that is granted
to the government comes
from the people,
504
00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,851
and also that power is
given to the people
505
00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:28,370
to hold the government
accountable to
the Constitution.
506
00:27:28,405 --> 00:27:30,959
So, on a deeper level,
the power that
the government would hold
507
00:27:30,994 --> 00:27:32,927
if they'd gone away
with disarming us
508
00:27:32,961 --> 00:27:36,896
would make them a power
unto themselves, completely
unaccountable to anyone.
509
00:27:36,931 --> 00:27:39,727
Our power as the people
guarantees our freedom
510
00:27:39,761 --> 00:27:42,661
by giving us the capability to keep the authority in check
511
00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:44,766
and under the umbrella
of the Constitution.
512
00:27:44,801 --> 00:27:47,424
If we lose that,
we'll lose everything.
513
00:27:49,737 --> 00:27:53,257
I scheduled meetings
in Washington DC with
Congressman Joe Wilson,
514
00:27:53,292 --> 00:27:55,708
Senator Rand Paul, and
Congressman Thomas Massie,
515
00:27:55,743 --> 00:27:59,816
all outspoken advocates
against gun control,
to look into this issue.
516
00:27:59,850 --> 00:28:02,542
[Wilson] I see this as a means to control the public.
517
00:28:02,577 --> 00:28:06,961
I believe people are
portraying it and they
made them believe
518
00:28:06,995 --> 00:28:11,482
that they're promoting
a safer environment, but
they're not. We know that.
519
00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:14,900
The same people who wanna
take your gun also wanna
take your Big Gulp.
520
00:28:14,934 --> 00:28:17,626
Now your Big Gulp, we don't
have an actual Bill of Rights,
521
00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:20,112
you know, we don't have
an amendment protecting
your Big Gulp,
522
00:28:20,146 --> 00:28:21,872
but it's part of the same
sort of philosophy.
523
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:25,738
If the government does not
respect its people,
524
00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:29,190
it will continually
and gradually,
525
00:28:29,224 --> 00:28:32,883
but inevitably encroach
on all of the rights
of those people.
526
00:28:32,918 --> 00:28:38,613
Fortunately, owning a gun
in self defense was elevated
to a much greater level
527
00:28:38,647 --> 00:28:40,926
than a lot of things that
we think the government
shouldn't be doing.
528
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,757
Here, we were very fortunate
that the founding fathers
thought self defense
529
00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:48,657
and owning a weapon was
something important enough
to be in the Bill of Rights.
530
00:28:48,692 --> 00:28:52,247
As people persist for
gun control laws,
531
00:28:52,282 --> 00:28:56,873
to me it's an enhancement
of power of politicians
over the public.
532
00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:58,667
If they don't get
the Second Amendment,
533
00:28:58,702 --> 00:29:03,845
then they just don't
get the Constitution,
in my opinion.
534
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,227
[Jesse]
How did this issue play out
from a legal perspective?
535
00:29:06,261 --> 00:29:09,782
Does the government have
the right to legislate
the Second Amendment?
536
00:29:09,817 --> 00:29:14,235
I think the best way
to look at popular sovereignty,
the sovereignty of the people,
537
00:29:14,269 --> 00:29:16,962
is that the people have
these unalienable rights,
538
00:29:16,996 --> 00:29:22,864
and as a result of that,
the only thing that
the government can possibly be
539
00:29:22,899 --> 00:29:25,246
are agents of the people,
or servants of the people,
540
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,353
therefore they have to
operate as agents do,
541
00:29:29,388 --> 00:29:32,149
on behalf of the people
and subject
to the people's control.
542
00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:35,428
And so, the whole idea
is to check... you have to
create power
543
00:29:35,463 --> 00:29:38,052
in order to protect
our rights and liberty,
544
00:29:38,086 --> 00:29:40,054
and then you have to check
the power you have created.
545
00:29:40,088 --> 00:29:42,470
So the problem
of constitutionalism
is two-fold.
546
00:29:42,504 --> 00:29:45,611
One is, how do we create
an effective government
547
00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:48,096
that will actually protect
our liberties and rights,
548
00:29:48,131 --> 00:29:50,443
but at the same time,
won't violate them?
549
00:29:52,135 --> 00:29:54,654
[Jesse] So everyone had
essentially given me
the same answer.
550
00:29:54,689 --> 00:29:59,867
Gun control, at its most
basic level was a way to gain
control over the people.
551
00:29:59,901 --> 00:30:01,834
But I wanted something
more concrete,
552
00:30:01,869 --> 00:30:04,181
a way to essentially
prove in my own mind
553
00:30:04,216 --> 00:30:06,149
that this was going on
in America.
554
00:30:07,944 --> 00:30:11,430
As I did more research,
I learned about
OperationFast and Furious,
555
00:30:11,464 --> 00:30:14,882
which was a big piece
of evidence that proved
what I was being told,
556
00:30:14,916 --> 00:30:17,229
that the government
was out for control.
557
00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:24,201
Aside from being
the news editor at
townhallmagazine.com
558
00:30:24,236 --> 00:30:26,341
and aFox News correspondent,
559
00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:30,173
Katie Pavlich has spent
the past two years studying
OperationFast and Furious.
560
00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:32,140
So essentially, Operation
Fast and Furious
561
00:30:32,175 --> 00:30:34,763
was a program implemented by
the Department of Justice
562
00:30:34,798 --> 00:30:38,181
from September, 2009
to December, 2010.
563
00:30:38,215 --> 00:30:41,149
ATF, which is really
the Department of Justice,
564
00:30:41,184 --> 00:30:45,878
was sanctioning the sale of
2,500 plus AK-47s,
565
00:30:45,913 --> 00:30:48,536
.50 caliber rifles,
other types of firearms,
566
00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:52,712
to known straw purchasers
who were working for
Mexican cartels.
567
00:30:52,747 --> 00:30:56,406
They then watched these
firearms go from
Arizona gun dealerships
568
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,928
to these straw purchasers,
and into Mexico, and did
nothing about it.
569
00:31:00,962 --> 00:31:03,068
On December 15, 2010,
570
00:31:03,102 --> 00:31:05,311
Border Patrol agent
Brian Terry was killed,
571
00:31:05,346 --> 00:31:09,074
and the firearms left at
his murder scene were
connected to this program.
572
00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:10,799
And whistle-blowers
came forward
573
00:31:10,834 --> 00:31:15,321
and said, "Look, my agency
has been watching people
working for cartels
574
00:31:15,356 --> 00:31:18,773
buying thousands of weapons,
trafficking them to Mexico.
575
00:31:18,807 --> 00:31:21,914
These guns are being used
for crimes in Mexico,
hundreds of crimes,
576
00:31:21,949 --> 00:31:23,295
hundreds of people dead,
577
00:31:23,329 --> 00:31:26,056
and now here we are,
with a US law enforcement agent
578
00:31:26,091 --> 00:31:28,783
who has been murdered
as a result of our program."
579
00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:31,924
Now the really important
thing here is,
580
00:31:31,959 --> 00:31:33,443
why did the government do this?
581
00:31:33,477 --> 00:31:35,997
The government and
the Department of Justice
and ATF would argue,
582
00:31:36,032 --> 00:31:39,518
"Well, we wanted to see if
these guns would trickle up to
the top of the cartel,"
583
00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:41,209
and take out, what they call
"the big fish."
584
00:31:41,244 --> 00:31:44,488
So, the problem is,
out of 2,500 plus weapons,
585
00:31:44,523 --> 00:31:48,251
only two of those weapons had GPS recording devices on them,
586
00:31:48,285 --> 00:31:51,219
which doesn't really sound like a very serious tracking program
587
00:31:51,254 --> 00:31:54,774
when you're talking about
high caliber weaponry going
into the hands of
588
00:31:54,809 --> 00:31:57,570
some off the most violent
criminals in North America.
589
00:31:57,605 --> 00:32:00,297
Meanwhile, as soon as
those guns ended up in Mexico,
590
00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:02,265
you have ATF officials
at the highest level,
591
00:32:02,299 --> 00:32:04,232
including a US attorney
from Arizona,
592
00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:09,030
saying, "These dealerships
are responsible, we have to
do something about them,
593
00:32:09,065 --> 00:32:10,480
we need more gun control,"
594
00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:12,931
and it was the government
sanctioning those sales
all along.
595
00:32:12,965 --> 00:32:14,449
So they had a reason to say,
596
00:32:14,484 --> 00:32:17,314
"Look at all the murder
and mayhem and catastrophe
in Mexico
597
00:32:17,349 --> 00:32:19,868
as a result of American
gun laws, we need
more regulation."
598
00:32:19,903 --> 00:32:22,906
Was President Obama involved
in this? Did he know about
any of this?
599
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,287
Well, this is the big question.
600
00:32:24,321 --> 00:32:26,461
President Obama
denies any involvement.
601
00:32:26,496 --> 00:32:28,636
His attorney general changed
his testimony about
602
00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:30,949
when he found out
about this multiple times.
603
00:32:30,983 --> 00:32:34,124
The key here to
understanding whether
the President knew or not
604
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:37,472
is in June of 2012,
605
00:32:37,507 --> 00:32:40,234
Attorney General Eric Holder
was holding contempt
of Congress.
606
00:32:40,268 --> 00:32:42,270
Before he was holding
contempt of Congress,
607
00:32:42,305 --> 00:32:45,894
he was asked to turn over
a bunch of documentation that
he refused to turn over.
608
00:32:45,929 --> 00:32:50,313
So, we've been trying to get to the bottom of Fast and Furious where people died,
609
00:32:50,347 --> 00:32:53,592
and we can't get
the information to get
to the bottom of that,
610
00:32:53,626 --> 00:32:56,940
so I don't need lectures
from you about contempt.
611
00:32:56,975 --> 00:33:00,254
Fifteen minutes before
the Oversight Committee voted
to hold him in contempt,
612
00:33:00,288 --> 00:33:04,154
President Obama asserted
executive privilege over
the very documents,
613
00:33:04,189 --> 00:33:06,674
the Fast and Furious he claimed
he had no idea about.
614
00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:09,366
So if President Obama
knows nothing about
this operation,
615
00:33:09,401 --> 00:33:10,954
then why is it
all of a sudden,
616
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:12,991
that he needs to assert
executive privilege?
617
00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:16,718
What do you think that
all of this says about
the administration,
618
00:33:16,753 --> 00:33:19,411
that they're,
in the United States,
with law-abiding citizens,
619
00:33:19,445 --> 00:33:22,034
they're pushing so heavily
for super strict gun regulation
620
00:33:22,069 --> 00:33:26,383
but then they're completely
willing to traffic guns to
people that are know criminals?
621
00:33:26,418 --> 00:33:28,109
It's hypocritical at best.
622
00:33:28,144 --> 00:33:32,251
You know, I think it's
essential for the American
people to understand
623
00:33:32,286 --> 00:33:34,288
that they turned
law-abiding citizens,
624
00:33:34,322 --> 00:33:37,084
law-abiding business owners
who own gun dealerships,
625
00:33:37,118 --> 00:33:40,432
who do everything they can
to obey the law,
626
00:33:40,466 --> 00:33:42,779
they turned them into criminals
for a political purpose.
627
00:33:42,813 --> 00:33:44,056
That is a fact.
628
00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:46,196
Despite all the statistics
and the evidence to show
629
00:33:46,231 --> 00:33:49,682
that gun ownership
by law-abiding citizens
reduces crime,
630
00:33:49,717 --> 00:33:52,927
Barack Obama and his
administration are hell-bent
631
00:33:52,961 --> 00:33:54,722
on continuing their
anti-gun agenda,
632
00:33:54,756 --> 00:33:56,482
and it's not because they
want to keep people safer,
633
00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:58,657
'cause if it was, they'd pay
attention to those statistics.
634
00:33:58,691 --> 00:34:01,039
It's because they're interested
in government control.
635
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,489
[Jesse] There it was.
636
00:34:03,524 --> 00:34:06,182
Fast and Furious was dead on
confirmation of what I had
been finding out.
637
00:34:06,216 --> 00:34:11,463
Gun control in America was for the purpose of having direct control over the people.
638
00:34:11,497 --> 00:34:15,225
Where do you see America
in another 20, 30 years?
639
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:16,537
Where are we headed?
640
00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,231
That's a deep question.
641
00:34:24,234 --> 00:34:28,687
I think that question rests
in what we do right now.
642
00:34:28,721 --> 00:34:34,796
I think that question
rests on... how we
address the crisis
643
00:34:34,831 --> 00:34:37,178
that we are facing.
644
00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:42,149
It is a crisis that goes
to the very heart and soul
of who we are as a people.
645
00:34:43,771 --> 00:34:49,535
If we address that
head on, this would be
the greatest, freest...
646
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:52,124
most prosperous country
in the world.
647
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:56,577
If we don't...
648
00:34:56,611 --> 00:34:59,338
then it would be a place
that people talk about...
649
00:35:04,032 --> 00:35:06,449
"The America that
was once free."
650
00:35:07,174 --> 00:35:09,107
The place that...
651
00:35:09,141 --> 00:35:14,112
our forefathers fought and sacrificed their lives for, shed their blood for...
652
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:16,148
for those three colors,
red, white, and blue,
653
00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:18,702
that banner would
just be irrelevant.
654
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,846
[instrumental music playing]
655
00:35:44,556 --> 00:35:46,178
♪
656
00:36:06,129 --> 00:36:07,579
♪
657
00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:22,007
[Jesse] "The America
that was once free."
658
00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:25,148
It's a concept that most
of us never even think of.
659
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:27,357
Freedom is such a part of
our way of life,
660
00:36:27,392 --> 00:36:30,222
that we begin to
take it for granted.
661
00:36:30,257 --> 00:36:34,019
But what I was learning
on my journey was that
that is not enough.
662
00:36:34,053 --> 00:36:38,057
I had found out what would happen to America if we allowed our leaders to disarm us.
663
00:36:38,092 --> 00:36:41,233
And I had seen that
we had slipped, that we
had lost our footing,
664
00:36:41,268 --> 00:36:45,306
and are headed on a path to tyranny unless we stand up right now to do something
665
00:36:45,341 --> 00:36:47,308
and defend our right
to bear arms.
666
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,900
The name Hank Parker
is synonymous with
modern outdoorsmanship.
667
00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:55,868
A hunter, TV host,
and world champion fisherman.
668
00:36:55,903 --> 00:36:58,940
I traveled to South Carolina
to speak with him.
669
00:36:58,975 --> 00:37:00,563
So, you as an American,
670
00:37:00,597 --> 00:37:03,738
doing what you do, fishing,
hunting, all of those things,
671
00:37:03,773 --> 00:37:07,673
how important
is the Second Amendment to you?
672
00:37:08,295 --> 00:37:10,987
Besides my profession,
673
00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:17,752
besides... my outdoors passion,
674
00:37:17,787 --> 00:37:20,893
and all the guns that
I have for that purpose,
675
00:37:22,205 --> 00:37:24,621
above all that,
I am an American,
676
00:37:24,656 --> 00:37:26,623
and I take that very serious.
677
00:37:26,658 --> 00:37:33,251
And to me, the Second Amendment is the only check and balance system we have as a people.
678
00:37:33,872 --> 00:37:35,563
And to take that away,
679
00:37:36,668 --> 00:37:39,843
you're gonna be Venezuela,
you're gonna be Cuba,
680
00:37:39,878 --> 00:37:44,745
you're going to be
a third-world country
that have no voice.
681
00:37:45,642 --> 00:37:48,196
People don't really
understand that,
682
00:37:48,231 --> 00:37:52,442
and so many people think
that the government can
take care of them,
683
00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:54,099
that the government's
the good guys.
684
00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:57,758
There is a lot behind
on where we're headed
with socialism
685
00:37:57,792 --> 00:38:01,831
and there is a big push
to get rid of our guns,
686
00:38:01,865 --> 00:38:06,042
and I don't think
it's an innocent push.
687
00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,113
I think it's very calculated
688
00:38:08,147 --> 00:38:12,566
and I think that we are
really looking toward
a socialistic shift.
689
00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:16,742
[Jesse] The prevalence
of the gun culture in America
690
00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:18,779
is discounted by
the anti-gun Left
691
00:38:18,813 --> 00:38:21,506
because it does nothing
to prop up their ideology.
692
00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:24,198
In fact, it harms it.
693
00:38:24,232 --> 00:38:27,615
Columbia, South Carolina
is the home base of
Palmetto Armory,
694
00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:29,997
a retail firearms
and ammunition company.
695
00:38:30,031 --> 00:38:33,207
Jamin McCallum is the owner and is also an expert on guns.
696
00:38:33,241 --> 00:38:36,486
I spoke to him about
the legacy of guns
in American history.
697
00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:39,144
I got this for
my eighth Christmas.
698
00:38:39,178 --> 00:38:40,490
You can tell it's well worn.
699
00:38:40,525 --> 00:38:42,872
This book, to me, it just
gave me an absolute passion
700
00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:44,977
'cause it talked about
the guns and the specs,
701
00:38:45,012 --> 00:38:48,360
and I was always math-oriented,
so I started seeing
the different calibers,
702
00:38:48,395 --> 00:38:50,258
and the ranges, and how far
they would shoot,
703
00:38:50,293 --> 00:38:52,191
and just got
passionate about it.
704
00:38:52,226 --> 00:38:55,298
I went from loving it
in the books and getting
to shoot a little bit
705
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,783
to doing it full-time
for a living.
706
00:38:57,818 --> 00:39:00,648
In basic training I was
at 45 Bravo, which is
small arms.
707
00:39:00,683 --> 00:39:03,133
So I got back from
my deployment,
708
00:39:03,168 --> 00:39:06,447
and, you know, I love
the county, which is where
my degree was in
709
00:39:06,482 --> 00:39:08,138
but I also still hooked on.
710
00:39:08,173 --> 00:39:10,555
But I still went on with
an accounting degree
and everything,
711
00:39:10,589 --> 00:39:12,419
and turned around
and made a gun company.
712
00:39:12,453 --> 00:39:15,387
You know, it all started...
in my opinion, it started
with this book right here.
713
00:39:15,422 --> 00:39:20,116
And not just... it's not
the pages, it's the story,
the history.
714
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:24,465
In my opinion, you can tell
huge amounts of history
through the firearms.
715
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:27,675
I think in our collection,
this is one of the most
interesting pieces.
716
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:29,608
It was dropped over Germany.
It's called the Liberator.
717
00:39:29,643 --> 00:39:32,956
It was made by General Motors.
They made over a million of them
in the World War II effort.
718
00:39:32,991 --> 00:39:35,407
It would take one round
and you would load it
one at a time,
719
00:39:35,442 --> 00:39:40,481
and the idea was that you
would go up to a German soldier
who was an occupier,
720
00:39:40,516 --> 00:39:42,794
and you had unarmed
civilian population,
721
00:39:42,828 --> 00:39:44,589
they would get their hands
on a weapon
722
00:39:44,623 --> 00:39:49,490
and they would go from
a sitting duck to being able
to fight the occupiers.
723
00:39:49,525 --> 00:39:51,941
And the instructions were
to load one round at a time,
724
00:39:51,975 --> 00:39:54,944
come off, and then to shoot
the German soldier and then
take his gun.
725
00:39:54,978 --> 00:39:59,638
It's an excellent example
of how, you know,
civilian use of firearms
726
00:39:59,673 --> 00:40:01,640
ca be used to stop
a tyrannical government.
727
00:40:01,675 --> 00:40:03,401
All over Europe,
totally unarmed civilians.
728
00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:05,989
I mean, think about
the Jewish population,
totally unarmed.
729
00:40:06,024 --> 00:40:08,785
But the Americans went
with the intent to
arm those civilians,
730
00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:10,753
so they could fight
their occupiers.
731
00:40:11,443 --> 00:40:14,550
[assault weapon firing]
732
00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:20,556
[Jesse] One of the biggest
influences in my life in
the area of American history
733
00:40:20,590 --> 00:40:22,420
is Dr. Joe Morecraft,
734
00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:26,147
a pastor, teacher,
and historian who lives
outside of Atlanta, Georgia.
735
00:40:26,182 --> 00:40:29,599
His study of the founding era of the United States is unparalleled,
736
00:40:29,634 --> 00:40:33,914
and to truly grasp the concept of tyranny and tyrannical government in our history,
737
00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:37,158
I can think of no one
better than Dr. Morecraft.
738
00:40:37,193 --> 00:40:41,715
The founding fathers,
they hadn't spent many years
during the revolution
739
00:40:41,749 --> 00:40:43,786
fighting against
a tyrannical government.
740
00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:47,479
How did they define
what tyranny was?
741
00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:49,585
That is a very
important question
742
00:40:49,619 --> 00:40:52,519
because it's
misunderstood today.
743
00:40:52,553 --> 00:40:58,939
The greatest influence
on the colonies prior to 1776
744
00:40:58,973 --> 00:41:02,874
was John Knox
and the Scottish Reformation.
745
00:41:02,908 --> 00:41:07,534
And John Knox had
a unique view of politics
746
00:41:07,568 --> 00:41:11,814
that shaped the minds
of most Americans at that time.
747
00:41:11,848 --> 00:41:15,024
He believed in a covenantal
view of politics.
748
00:41:15,058 --> 00:41:19,615
And Knox believed that
there were four covenants,
or four vows
749
00:41:19,649 --> 00:41:24,343
that lay at the basis
of a free and just republic.
750
00:41:24,378 --> 00:41:30,660
The first is a vow
that the civil magistrate
makes to God,
751
00:41:30,695 --> 00:41:36,252
that he will govern the people
in terms of God's supremacy
and God's sovereignty.
752
00:41:36,286 --> 00:41:41,395
The second is a vow
that the civil magistrate
makes to the people,
753
00:41:41,429 --> 00:41:48,298
that the civil magistrate will
protect the people according
to the standards of God's law.
754
00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:53,200
The third is a vow that
the people would take
to the civil magistrate,
755
00:41:53,234 --> 00:41:55,305
and herein hangs the tale,
756
00:41:55,340 --> 00:42:00,172
as long as the civil magistrate
was faithful to his covenants
with God.
757
00:42:01,311 --> 00:42:03,141
And in the fourth covenant,
758
00:42:03,175 --> 00:42:07,076
was the covenant that people
made with God that they'd
be His faithful people.
759
00:42:07,110 --> 00:42:10,873
So if you read the Declaration
of Independence,
760
00:42:10,907 --> 00:42:13,910
in the light of John Knox's
theory of politics,
761
00:42:13,945 --> 00:42:18,501
you'll see that Knox's
influence and fingerprints
762
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:21,504
all over the Declaration
of Independence.
763
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:28,131
Why did America
cast off its relationship
with Great Britain?
764
00:42:28,166 --> 00:42:29,719
Two reasons.
765
00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:34,793
The despotism of the king
who had broken his covenants
with the colonies,
766
00:42:34,828 --> 00:42:40,834
and the tyrannical attempt
on the part of parliament
to govern the colonies
767
00:42:40,868 --> 00:42:43,215
when actually, and legally,
and historically,
768
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:47,668
parliament had absolutely
no authority over the colonies.
769
00:42:47,703 --> 00:42:51,534
So tyranny, in the light
of the American colonists
770
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:55,020
was when the civil magistrate
broke his covenants with God,
771
00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:59,335
and sought to rule
in terms of his own name,
772
00:42:59,369 --> 00:43:04,029
rather than to rule in terms
of the name of God.
773
00:43:04,064 --> 00:43:06,963
James Madison said that
once a man is elected office,
774
00:43:06,998 --> 00:43:10,691
don't give him more power
than you want him to use,
or he'll use it,
775
00:43:10,726 --> 00:43:12,866
because power, like drugs,
is addictive.
776
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:16,663
I mean, you go to Washington,
and it has a sense of power.
777
00:43:16,697 --> 00:43:20,183
You can see why people
can get seduced by it.
778
00:43:20,218 --> 00:43:25,982
When as a matter of fact,
that power in Washington
is an illusion of power.
779
00:43:27,294 --> 00:43:29,710
[Jesse] In my mind, what
Dr. Morecraft had described
780
00:43:29,745 --> 00:43:32,195
was exactly what
America has become.
781
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:34,853
All of what I had learned,
read, and been told by now
782
00:43:34,888 --> 00:43:37,235
on my journey was
puzzling and maddening.
783
00:43:37,269 --> 00:43:41,032
To have leaders in office
that were anxious for
draconian tyrannical power,
784
00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:43,759
and were willing to put
morals aside in order
to gain full control
785
00:43:43,793 --> 00:43:48,556
was a slap in the face
of the American legacy
that he had spoken about.
786
00:43:48,591 --> 00:43:51,283
But what he had said about the influence of others on the founders
787
00:43:51,318 --> 00:43:52,733
had been interesting to me.
788
00:43:52,768 --> 00:43:54,217
He had said that our
system of government
789
00:43:54,252 --> 00:43:56,703
was based on something
that had come before that,
790
00:43:56,737 --> 00:43:59,257
principles of freedom that
were based in history.
791
00:43:59,291 --> 00:44:02,743
As I studied it more, I learned that another one of the influences on the founders
792
00:44:02,778 --> 00:44:05,090
had been the city of Geneva
in Switzerland.
793
00:44:06,505 --> 00:44:08,162
Along with that,
794
00:44:08,197 --> 00:44:10,371
today Switzerland is one
of the freest nations
in the world,
795
00:44:10,406 --> 00:44:11,925
in terms of gun ownership.
796
00:44:13,961 --> 00:44:18,069
A fact which has resulted
in one of lowest violent
crime rates in the world,
797
00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:21,451
more than 50% less than
the United States per capita.
798
00:44:24,731 --> 00:44:27,112
I traveled over to Switzerland in the middle of May,
799
00:44:27,147 --> 00:44:29,114
the week before
the yearly Schutzenfest,
800
00:44:29,149 --> 00:44:32,117
a government and military
sponsored week of
shooting competitions
801
00:44:32,152 --> 00:44:34,499
that take place
across the country.
802
00:44:34,533 --> 00:44:36,190
[captivating music playing]
803
00:44:53,932 --> 00:44:55,278
♪
804
00:45:05,426 --> 00:45:07,981
My guide during the festivals
was Marcel Benz,
805
00:45:08,015 --> 00:45:09,741
the head of the Swiss
Shooting Federation,
806
00:45:09,776 --> 00:45:12,502
the Swiss equivalent of the National Rifle Association.
807
00:45:16,886 --> 00:45:20,165
He took me to a festival
high in the Alps,
in a military base,
808
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,409
outside of the small town
of Glarus.
809
00:45:22,443 --> 00:45:26,654
Well, this is the part where
they start, you know, where they
have to give the ammunition
810
00:45:26,689 --> 00:45:30,313
and all the, I would say,
paperwork to do first,
811
00:45:30,348 --> 00:45:34,214
and then they can enter.
812
00:45:34,248 --> 00:45:36,319
[Jesse] All right.
[man speaking foreign language]
813
00:45:36,354 --> 00:45:38,080
Number eight.
814
00:45:38,114 --> 00:45:41,117
Now, is there a gun that I'd
be able use? 'Cause I
obviously didn't bring one.
815
00:45:42,809 --> 00:45:46,778
[Jesse] It was fascinating to witness the difference between the gun culture here
816
00:45:46,813 --> 00:45:48,642
and the gun culture in America.
817
00:45:48,676 --> 00:45:50,264
Here. guns are a part
of their lives,
818
00:45:50,299 --> 00:45:52,025
a piece of their
national heritage,
819
00:45:52,059 --> 00:45:55,097
and in this hut, young people and old were gathered to shoot
820
00:45:55,131 --> 00:45:57,202
and honor that heritage
in their history.
821
00:45:57,237 --> 00:45:58,410
[blowing horn]
822
00:45:58,445 --> 00:46:01,275
This would never have
happened in America.
823
00:46:01,310 --> 00:46:04,520
While I was there,
I also had the opportunity
to shoot at the festival.
824
00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:06,487
[speaking foreign language]
825
00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:10,250
[captivating music playing]
826
00:46:20,260 --> 00:46:21,813
♪
827
00:46:32,375 --> 00:46:33,825
[indistinct chatter]
828
00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:37,311
[speaking foreign language]
829
00:46:37,864 --> 00:46:39,244
Danke schon.
830
00:46:39,279 --> 00:46:40,314
Thank you very much.
831
00:46:40,349 --> 00:46:42,075
Great job.
832
00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:46,044
[Jesse] It had really struck me to see the contrast between Switzerland and America,
833
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,876
and to see that this piece
of their heritage was still
extremely important
834
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:51,636
to who they are as a country.
835
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:56,814
[Benz] So the Swiss
Shooting Federation was
created already in 1824.
836
00:46:56,848 --> 00:46:59,057
So we are close to 200 year old.
837
00:46:59,092 --> 00:47:05,063
And our federation was
one of the first association
created in Switzerland.
838
00:47:05,098 --> 00:47:07,755
Even our state was
not yet built
839
00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:10,206
when the Shooting Federation
was created.
840
00:47:10,241 --> 00:47:13,071
[Jesse] Something that has been really interesting to me, being over here in Switzerland
841
00:47:13,106 --> 00:47:18,042
is kind of the differences
between Switzerland and
the United States of America
842
00:47:18,076 --> 00:47:20,044
in terms of the gun culture.
843
00:47:20,078 --> 00:47:22,046
Something like the Schutzenfest,
like what we're doing here
844
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,291
wouldn't happen in America
because the overall
view of guns in America
845
00:47:26,326 --> 00:47:29,501
is that they're either
a safety hazard,
or they're bad.
846
00:47:29,536 --> 00:47:33,471
Why are there those
different cultures
and different views?
847
00:47:33,505 --> 00:47:37,026
I would say it's based
on our tradition as well
848
00:47:37,061 --> 00:47:40,340
because it came out
of the army as well,
849
00:47:40,374 --> 00:47:45,828
and so people are educated
in shooting and in handling
the weapons.
850
00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:47,934
So they take the responsibility
851
00:47:47,968 --> 00:47:49,936
and they know
what they have to do.
852
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:51,903
So, it's not
the security problem,
853
00:47:51,938 --> 00:47:53,629
they take their responsibility,
854
00:47:53,663 --> 00:47:58,082
and I think this is also
something which
all the public around,
855
00:47:58,116 --> 00:47:59,704
you know, the families, know.
856
00:47:59,738 --> 00:48:04,571
To take care with
responsibility and not to
do anything else with it.
857
00:48:04,605 --> 00:48:09,162
So, you think it's a thing
of culture because of
the tradition of Switzerland?
858
00:48:09,196 --> 00:48:13,994
Yes, culture, I would say, and
also education responsibility.
859
00:48:14,029 --> 00:48:18,136
People want to contribute
to this tradition,
860
00:48:18,171 --> 00:48:21,105
to be part of it,
to share it with family.
861
00:48:21,139 --> 00:48:23,831
Everybody is coming
to those shooting festivals
862
00:48:23,866 --> 00:48:25,695
because everybody can shoot.
863
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:29,976
It is a tradition, and even
there are festivities
around it, you know.
864
00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:33,703
The people are in a tent,
there is music playing,
865
00:48:33,738 --> 00:48:35,429
and the people meet friends.
866
00:48:35,464 --> 00:48:38,432
I think this is a part
of that tradition.
867
00:48:38,467 --> 00:48:41,642
Last year, we had more than
130,000 people
868
00:48:41,677 --> 00:48:45,163
which were shooting
with the rifles,
as well as the pistol.
869
00:48:46,302 --> 00:48:48,546
[captivating music playing]
870
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,863
[Jesse] I took a tour
of a military bunker,
871
00:48:55,898 --> 00:48:59,315
one that contained
historic heavy artillery
built in the 1940s,
872
00:48:59,350 --> 00:49:03,043
and learned some of the history of the Swiss people during World War II.
873
00:49:03,078 --> 00:49:05,356
y tour guide, Max,
grew up in Switzerland,
874
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:07,427
and has been in the army
since he was 18.
875
00:49:07,461 --> 00:49:12,052
[Max] Switzerland had
in that time, about
450,000 men in the army,
876
00:49:12,087 --> 00:49:15,849
plus about around 200,000 men
877
00:49:15,883 --> 00:49:17,989
only armed with a gun.
878
00:49:18,024 --> 00:49:21,268
They weren't really
trained soldiers,
879
00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:25,376
but on the other hand,
every Swiss man has
home, a gun.
880
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:30,450
Every man who made service
can take the gun home.
881
00:49:30,484 --> 00:49:35,662
The German generals,
they considered the Swiss
loving their country,
882
00:49:35,696 --> 00:49:40,874
very hard fighters, and very
not easy to take over.
883
00:49:40,908 --> 00:49:44,395
One of the main reasons
Germany didn't attack
was the army.
884
00:49:45,879 --> 00:49:48,192
That's my opinion, yeah.
885
00:49:49,745 --> 00:49:52,265
Over there
is the Bunker Number One,
886
00:49:52,299 --> 00:49:58,374
with the manned gun
hidden behind those walls
887
00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:00,687
behind the trees.
You don't really see it.
888
00:50:00,721 --> 00:50:05,174
And here you see
the normal bunkers.
This is the Number Two,
889
00:50:05,209 --> 00:50:09,420
with the big door,
which is not a door,
890
00:50:09,454 --> 00:50:12,733
for some tractors or whatever,
it is a door,
891
00:50:12,768 --> 00:50:14,632
in which you have behind,
the gun.
892
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:19,223
It is made in Switzerland.
893
00:50:19,257 --> 00:50:21,604
and tuned by
the Waffenfabrik in town.
894
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:25,194
Do you feel like you
are safe in Switzerland?
895
00:50:25,229 --> 00:50:27,058
I feel safe, that's true.
896
00:50:27,093 --> 00:50:28,784
It's good to have
an arm at home,
897
00:50:28,818 --> 00:50:31,856
but you need to be educated.
You need to know what you're
doing with it.
898
00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:33,409
Very important.
899
00:50:33,444 --> 00:50:35,687
[Jesse]
Luzi Stamm is a congressman
in Berne,
900
00:50:35,722 --> 00:50:40,140
that is an outspoken advocate
against liberal gun laws
in Switzerland.
901
00:50:40,175 --> 00:50:43,212
This is Switzerland,
I believe is a historical thing.
902
00:50:43,247 --> 00:50:46,284
People are used to own
their own guns,
903
00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:49,736
and that is taken in
as something very positive.
904
00:50:49,770 --> 00:50:54,154
It would be very wrong to say
people in Switzerland grew up
with guns,
905
00:50:54,189 --> 00:50:56,570
but they grew up
with their army.
906
00:50:56,605 --> 00:51:01,023
Everybody at the age of 18, 19,
20, went into the army,
907
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:02,956
they learned how
to handle guns,
908
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:04,820
so it was not a strange thing,
909
00:51:04,854 --> 00:51:07,098
it was normal to keep
it at home.
910
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:10,757
In America, one of the founding
principles was that
911
00:51:10,791 --> 00:51:14,692
all men had the right to keep
and bear a firearm
912
00:51:14,726 --> 00:51:17,281
without fear of restriction
from the government.
913
00:51:17,315 --> 00:51:20,007
And the reason
our founding fathers
did that was to
914
00:51:20,042 --> 00:51:25,254
allow the people to defend
themselves from potential
violence from other citizens,
915
00:51:25,289 --> 00:51:29,603
but then also to defend
themselves from a tyrannical
government taking over.
916
00:51:29,638 --> 00:51:32,434
In a certain way, I think
it's a very positive thing
917
00:51:32,468 --> 00:51:37,232
if a country can accept
and permit itself
918
00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:39,372
to have an armed population.
919
00:51:39,406 --> 00:51:44,515
I had a member of the parliament
of the old Russian countries
920
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:46,827
who said it would
never be possible,
921
00:51:46,862 --> 00:51:50,003
it would never be possible,
it is Soviet Union,
922
00:51:50,037 --> 00:51:51,970
to have an armed population.
923
00:51:52,005 --> 00:51:54,387
And I think that is
a good example.
924
00:51:54,421 --> 00:51:56,906
If you have
a problematic government,
925
00:51:56,941 --> 00:51:59,771
it will never accept
that the population is armed.
926
00:51:59,806 --> 00:52:03,154
Do you look at that
as being a good thing?
927
00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:05,225
The people being able
to keep themselves free
928
00:52:05,260 --> 00:52:07,745
if the government were to try
and encroach upon them?
929
00:52:07,779 --> 00:52:12,853
I still believe that
the Swiss society
and the Swiss system
930
00:52:12,888 --> 00:52:17,479
has such a positive effect by knowing our people are armed,
931
00:52:17,513 --> 00:52:19,170
that you should not
change anything.
932
00:52:19,205 --> 00:52:23,416
It is very difficult to answer why does the United States in a certain way,
933
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:25,970
have a higher crime rate
than Switzerland.
934
00:52:26,004 --> 00:52:30,423
But I do not believe that
it depends on owning a gun.
935
00:52:30,457 --> 00:52:33,253
It's other influences
which are more dangerous.
936
00:52:33,288 --> 00:52:36,325
Unfortunately, it is not
so easy to answer the question
937
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,120
where does violence come from.
938
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:40,916
If we knew,
we could solve it.
939
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:44,851
But the United States
has different problems
than Switzerland,
940
00:52:44,885 --> 00:52:51,478
the only thing I can say,
a gun at home doesn't
form you into a criminal.
941
00:52:51,513 --> 00:52:53,929
I think this would be
absurd to say this.
942
00:53:01,281 --> 00:53:04,526
[Jesse] In the lake town
of Lucerne, I met
with Hermann Suter,
943
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,424
the head of the organization,
Pro Tell,
944
00:53:06,459 --> 00:53:08,633
a pro-gun lobby group
in Switzerland.
945
00:53:13,673 --> 00:53:18,091
We know very well
that only dictatorships
946
00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:22,647
disarm their people
because they are afraid
of their citizens, you know?
947
00:53:22,682 --> 00:53:25,961
And in Switzerland,
we have exactly the contrary.
948
00:53:25,995 --> 00:53:30,241
Every citizen is a soldier,
and every soldier is a citizen,
949
00:53:30,276 --> 00:53:32,278
and so he has the right
to keep his arm.
950
00:53:32,312 --> 00:53:36,489
And that's the best
democratic control
against the government.
951
00:53:36,523 --> 00:53:39,216
Many Americans understand
the fact that
952
00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:43,910
America was a nation that
was built on the idea
that men are free,
953
00:53:43,944 --> 00:53:45,360
and they're born free.
954
00:53:45,394 --> 00:53:49,398
Is that an idea that
is fairly prevalent in
Swiss culture as well?
955
00:53:49,433 --> 00:53:51,435
Yeah, yeah.
Of course, of course.
956
00:53:51,469 --> 00:53:55,956
Our most important symbol
we have is William Tell,
957
00:53:55,991 --> 00:54:00,754
and you can't imagine
William Tell without
his weapon.
958
00:54:00,789 --> 00:54:04,793
And that's a symbol for
the freedom of Switzerland.
959
00:54:04,827 --> 00:54:10,730
That's the reason for which
we have William Tell on
our five-franc piece.
960
00:54:10,764 --> 00:54:12,387
-Wow.
-Yeah.
961
00:54:12,421 --> 00:54:14,803
[Jesse] Freedom and
fighting tyranny goes
back centuries,
962
00:54:14,837 --> 00:54:18,116
even before 1776
in Switzerland.
963
00:54:18,151 --> 00:54:21,879
It was in their blood,
and it's been passed down
through generations
964
00:54:21,913 --> 00:54:23,812
and through something
as simple as a coin,
965
00:54:23,846 --> 00:54:26,332
they made sure that
they would never forget it.
966
00:54:26,366 --> 00:54:28,334
[captivating music playing]
967
00:54:41,036 --> 00:54:44,488
Dr. Marcus Serven
has been a family friend
for quite a few years
968
00:54:44,522 --> 00:54:48,457
and has also dedicated
much of his academic life
to the study of John Calvin,
969
00:54:48,492 --> 00:54:52,979
a man from Geneva who had significant amount of influence on the founding fathers.
970
00:54:55,499 --> 00:54:58,916
What I had learned with
Dr. Serven was that
our government in America
971
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:02,402
was based off of a legacy
from the 1200s from
the people of England,
972
00:55:02,437 --> 00:55:06,164
through theMagna Carta holding their government accountable for their freedom.
973
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:11,756
That legacy then came
to Geneva, and from
Geneva to America.
974
00:55:11,791 --> 00:55:16,347
I want you to see that
the motto that stretches
across this whole wall,
975
00:55:16,382 --> 00:55:19,661
"Post Tenebras Lux."
976
00:55:19,695 --> 00:55:24,907
And what that means is,
"After darkness, light."
977
00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:28,014
And the basic idea here
in Geneva was
978
00:55:28,048 --> 00:55:32,708
that they had been in
a time of great darkness,
979
00:55:32,743 --> 00:55:35,055
for the past, really,
1,000 years.
980
00:55:35,090 --> 00:55:38,714
So it wasn't just Calvin who
coined this particular motto,
981
00:55:38,749 --> 00:55:41,476
it was the whole city
that embraced this.
982
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:44,686
And really adopting
this particular motto
983
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,584
that after the times
of darkness,
984
00:55:46,619 --> 00:55:48,517
they came into a new light.
985
00:55:48,552 --> 00:55:52,866
And one of those areas
of light was the setting up
of civil government
986
00:55:52,901 --> 00:55:56,629
that recognized they were
under the authority of God.
987
00:55:56,663 --> 00:55:59,735
[Jesse] As we walked
through the streets, I was
understanding more and more
988
00:55:59,770 --> 00:56:02,635
that our government was not
just an arbitrary system
989
00:56:02,669 --> 00:56:05,362
created by our founders
in 1776.
990
00:56:05,396 --> 00:56:07,156
Its roots were in history,
991
00:56:07,191 --> 00:56:10,125
other places where
people had understood
the importance of freedom,
992
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:13,162
and who'd built governments
that upheld those freedoms.
993
00:56:13,197 --> 00:56:16,614
I think, so far,
one of the things that has
struck me the most
994
00:56:16,649 --> 00:56:19,410
about what I've seen here
in Geneva is,
995
00:56:20,307 --> 00:56:22,309
from a purely
political perspective,
996
00:56:22,344 --> 00:56:27,038
understanding the fact that
the system of government
that we have in America
997
00:56:27,073 --> 00:56:30,697
has deeper roots than
just our founding fathers.
998
00:56:30,732 --> 00:56:32,872
[Dr. Serven]
Yeah, maybe you can
think that like this, Jesse,
999
00:56:32,906 --> 00:56:35,944
it's the idea of a fire
that begins,
1000
00:56:35,978 --> 00:56:39,361
and at first, there's
all the wood that's there,
1001
00:56:39,396 --> 00:56:42,191
and there's maybe
a few sparks
1002
00:56:42,226 --> 00:56:44,401
that begin to ignite
the tinder.
1003
00:56:44,435 --> 00:56:46,989
And it begins to glow
and you blow on it,
1004
00:56:47,024 --> 00:56:50,407
and eventually it comes up
into a tiny little flame,
1005
00:56:50,441 --> 00:56:55,032
and then as it's tended,
and as it grows, it becomes
larger and larger,
1006
00:56:55,066 --> 00:56:59,554
and in some ways, that's what happened in terms of the causes of freedom and liberty.
1007
00:56:59,588 --> 00:57:02,108
It started off as a tiny
little spark,
1008
00:57:02,142 --> 00:57:07,907
and in God's providence,
that spark then grew into
a tiny little flame,
1009
00:57:07,941 --> 00:57:12,221
and then it grew over time
into a larger fire.
1010
00:57:12,256 --> 00:57:16,156
And so, the causes of freedom
were in much that same way.
1011
00:57:16,191 --> 00:57:20,367
They started out small,
and they grew into
something much greater.
1012
00:57:20,402 --> 00:57:22,784
And we're the heirs
and the recipients
1013
00:57:22,818 --> 00:57:25,994
of all that happened
earlier in our history.
1014
00:57:26,028 --> 00:57:28,479
It wasn't like, in the founding of our country,
1015
00:57:28,514 --> 00:57:30,895
that these ideas
sprang out of nothing.
1016
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:35,244
They sprang out of the fact that in the previous centuries,
1017
00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:37,488
there were men and women
who suffered
1018
00:57:37,523 --> 00:57:42,010
for the cause of bringing
forth the ideas of liberty
and freedom.
1019
00:57:42,044 --> 00:57:45,392
Sounds like what they said,
"After darkness, light."
1020
00:57:45,427 --> 00:57:48,085
After darkness, light.
1021
00:57:51,847 --> 00:57:53,711
[captivating music playing]
1022
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:10,590
[Jesse]
When I came to Switzerland,
I came looking for something.
1023
00:58:10,625 --> 00:58:14,111
I came to find a nation
that was armed and was free
because of it,
1024
00:58:14,145 --> 00:58:15,699
and I did find that.
1025
00:58:15,733 --> 00:58:18,564
But I ended up finding
something else,
something deeper.
1026
00:58:18,598 --> 00:58:20,393
I'd found hope.
1027
00:58:20,427 --> 00:58:25,571
I had seen a nation where freedom was deeper than simply their right to bear arms.
1028
00:58:25,605 --> 00:58:27,400
For them it was
a cultural mindset,
1029
00:58:27,434 --> 00:58:32,198
something more than words
in a political speech or
writing on a page.
1030
00:58:32,232 --> 00:58:34,441
To them, freedom is an idea,
1031
00:58:34,476 --> 00:58:36,167
an idea that defines them.
1032
00:58:36,202 --> 00:58:39,654
I discovered hope for America, that we aren't lost,
1033
00:58:39,688 --> 00:58:41,621
that if we come back
to this ideal,
1034
00:58:41,656 --> 00:58:44,003
we can bring America
back to its foundations,
1035
00:58:44,037 --> 00:58:46,592
come back to who we are,
what we're meant to be,
1036
00:58:46,626 --> 00:58:49,146
and restore the freedom
that has been taken away.
1037
00:58:50,768 --> 00:58:53,357
Over the centuries,
since the founding
of our country,
1038
00:58:53,391 --> 00:58:57,154
there has been a moving away
more to a socialistic mindset,
1039
00:58:57,188 --> 00:59:00,606
that as individuals, we don't
have to protect ourselves,
1040
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,539
the government will
do that for us,
1041
00:59:02,573 --> 00:59:04,920
the government will
provide our needs,
1042
00:59:04,955 --> 00:59:08,579
and protect us when
there are difficulties
that come up.
1043
00:59:08,614 --> 00:59:11,202
And so, as a result,
people have forgotten
1044
00:59:11,237 --> 00:59:14,792
that these liberties
and these freedoms that
we hold dear to us
1045
00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:17,588
were hard-fought and hard-won.
1046
00:59:17,623 --> 00:59:20,315
They cost us blood
and suffering.
1047
00:59:20,349 --> 00:59:24,250
And so it's very easy to forget
what it really took
1048
00:59:24,284 --> 00:59:26,390
to bring these liberties
into existence,
1049
00:59:26,424 --> 00:59:29,773
and we have to ask ourselves
"What do we need to do now
1050
00:59:29,807 --> 00:59:31,602
to preserve those freedoms?
1051
00:59:31,637 --> 00:59:34,329
What do we need to do
to win them back?"
1052
00:59:36,365 --> 00:59:41,612
[Dr. Morecraft] Most people that are out there today think we live in a free country.
1053
00:59:41,647 --> 00:59:44,960
We haven't lived in
a free country in generations.
1054
00:59:44,995 --> 00:59:48,136
But we have grown
used to our chains.
1055
00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:51,346
And we think that our chains
are made of velvet,
1056
00:59:51,380 --> 00:59:53,555
and that if we
just give in,
1057
00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:55,557
and we agree to this and that,
1058
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:59,492
that everything would
be okay and the State
would take care of us
1059
00:59:59,526 --> 01:00:05,878
because the common faith
is nobody does it better
than the State.
1060
01:00:05,912 --> 01:00:08,915
This old, pessimistic view
of the future,
1061
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:11,642
that "everything is going
to hell in a handbasket,
1062
01:00:11,677 --> 01:00:12,988
there's nothing we
can do about it,"
1063
01:00:13,023 --> 01:00:16,026
has got to be dispelled or we will not win this battle.
1064
01:00:17,959 --> 01:00:21,894
When a person is convinced
he's going to lose,
1065
01:00:21,928 --> 01:00:24,759
he will not be disappointed.
1066
01:00:24,793 --> 01:00:27,865
The constitution will
never be reinforced
1067
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,006
the way our founding fathers
intended for it to do
1068
01:00:31,041 --> 01:00:35,493
until most Americans have
the same kind of hearts,
1069
01:00:35,528 --> 01:00:37,703
and world view, and consensus
1070
01:00:37,737 --> 01:00:42,259
that the founding Americans
had in the 1770s.
1071
01:00:42,293 --> 01:00:45,296
Most of the time,
our kind of people
would get defeated,
1072
01:00:45,331 --> 01:00:47,574
but they're like pioneers,
1073
01:00:47,609 --> 01:00:51,026
they'll pioneer the way,
they'll cut down
some of the trees.
1074
01:00:52,165 --> 01:00:55,306
And then those that
follow them would win.
1075
01:00:56,998 --> 01:01:00,104
[Jesse] By the end of
my journey, I had seen a lot.
1076
01:01:00,139 --> 01:01:02,900
I had learned what America
was meant to be.
1077
01:01:02,935 --> 01:01:05,903
We were created as
a nation of free people,
1078
01:01:05,938 --> 01:01:07,767
and I had realized
something more,
1079
01:01:07,802 --> 01:01:12,599
that we will lose our battle for our freedom unless we remember the legacy of America,
1080
01:01:12,634 --> 01:01:16,224
a legacy that guaranteed
that we could always be free,
1081
01:01:16,258 --> 01:01:18,675
one that was meant
to be cherished.
1082
01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:22,299
And I had found the answers
to my questions. If our guns
were taken away,
1083
01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:24,750
we would become a nation
ruled by tyrants,
1084
01:01:24,784 --> 01:01:27,373
rather than a nation
rules by a free people.
1085
01:01:27,407 --> 01:01:30,272
I learned that our nation
was built on this idea
1086
01:01:30,307 --> 01:01:32,999
and that we were headed
away from those principles.
1087
01:01:36,313 --> 01:01:38,108
[captivating music playing]
1088
01:01:53,571 --> 01:01:56,471
Through it all,
in spite of what
we've become,
1089
01:01:56,505 --> 01:01:57,990
I found hope,
1090
01:01:58,024 --> 01:02:01,165
hope that free people would continue to live freely.
1091
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:09,380
I traveled across the world
1092
01:02:09,415 --> 01:02:12,107
and I had seen what
would happen if we don't
stand up for freedom.
1093
01:02:15,283 --> 01:02:19,183
Another page in history
will turn, and our freedoms
will be gone.
1094
01:02:38,651 --> 01:02:40,411
♪
1095
01:02:59,534 --> 01:03:00,915
♪
1096
01:03:11,408 --> 01:03:14,307
But I also learned
that freedom is about
more than just guns,
1097
01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:16,551
it's about principle,
it's about laws,
1098
01:03:16,585 --> 01:03:19,865
it's about the legacy
that has been left to us.
1099
01:03:38,676 --> 01:03:40,264
♪
1100
01:03:41,472 --> 01:03:44,924
We've been given a nation whose very foundation is freedom,
1101
01:03:44,959 --> 01:03:46,650
and yet we are losing
that freedom
1102
01:03:46,684 --> 01:03:49,480
every day that we do
nothing to stop
the onslaught against it.
1103
01:03:50,102 --> 01:03:51,966
So what would we do?
1104
01:03:55,245 --> 01:03:57,281
How will we stand up
to defend liberty?
1105
01:03:57,316 --> 01:03:59,836
How will we fight the battles
against the tyrants
1106
01:03:59,870 --> 01:04:01,768
that would seek to take
our freedom from us?
1107
01:04:01,803 --> 01:04:05,876
How will we keep
the legacy of America that
was guaranteed to us?
1108
01:04:07,498 --> 01:04:09,224
Is freedom worth losing?
1109
01:04:10,398 --> 01:04:12,020
No.
1110
01:04:12,055 --> 01:04:15,023
But the only way that
we keep from losing it
is by defending it.
1111
01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:17,992
Is freedom worth defending?
1112
01:04:19,717 --> 01:04:21,443
I think so.
1113
01:04:21,478 --> 01:04:23,342
[captivating music playing]
1114
01:04:43,362 --> 01:04:44,639
♪
1115
01:05:04,383 --> 01:05:05,902
♪
1116
01:05:26,163 --> 01:05:27,578
♪
1117
01:05:47,426 --> 01:05:49,014
♪
1118
01:06:18,836 --> 01:06:20,217
♪
1119
01:06:50,454 --> 01:06:51,800
♪
1120
01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:22,659
♪
1121
01:07:49,686 --> 01:07:51,584
♪
96301
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