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Someone opened fire...
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...spraying bullets
throughout the limousine.
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All Mac could say
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was "tell my mom
and dad I love them."
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And those were his last words.
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A larger-than-life
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orange county club owner
was suddenly gunned down.
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There were a lot of people
threatening him.
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'Cause in business,
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you got jealous people.
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They had not been getting along.
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Had deteriorated fast.
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Investigators would uncover
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a dangerous underworld
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of vicious competition.
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We started focusing on
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who the different players were
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at the clubs.
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The police were going in there
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and questioning people,
but nobody was talking.
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A man from Florida
says he knows something.
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He was kind of an outsider.
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They didn't expect
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this is the guy that would
want to have him killed.
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March 9, 1989 was a quiet night
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in the picturesque canyons
of brea, California.
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At the northern edge
of orange county,
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brea's rolling hills
had allowed one man a view
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of his empire to the north
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while plotting his expansion
into the gilded south,
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until a fateful 911 call
broadcast a tragic turn.
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I was in bed asleep
when I got the phone call.
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There had been a homicide
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at the largest and nicest
estate out in carbon canyon.
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Around 12:35 A.M.,
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a limousine meandered
up the canyon
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into the foothills of brea.
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Pulls up to the gate
of this massive estate.
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Right there,
the gunman opened fire.
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We headed out to look
at the crime scene
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and see what we had
as far as witnesses.
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The guy was shot at
the front gate to his
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estate up in the hills.
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The shooting took place
down at the gate.
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When we got to the gate, there
were police officers down there
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we had to try to avoid
running over
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the shell casings that were
sitting in the driveway.
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As I recall,
there were somewhere around
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30 empty casings
that were found at the scene.
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We later came to discover
that the-the homicide
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had a machine gun used
to actually commit the murder.
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To my knowledge,
there had never been
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a-a homicide using
a machine gun in brea.
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We drove up the driveway
to the house.
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When we got up there,
there were a couple
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of police officers
there along with a limousine.
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That's where the body was.
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The rear passenger side window
was shattered.
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Numerous bullet holes,
not only in the glass
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but also in the door post.
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There was a driver
on the scene.
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The driver's name was Bob berg.
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After talking to Mr. Berg,
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we came to discover
that the victim of the shooting
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was Horace McKenna,
also known as big Mac.
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The house, the limo and
everything else at the estate
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belonged to Mr. McKenna.
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Bob had told US
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that they had come home,
he had stopped at the gate,
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opened up the gate,
climbed back into the limo
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to drive up the hill,
he heard the machine gun go off
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someone opened fire,
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spraying bullets
throughout the limousine,
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striking McKenna numerous times
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and at that point,
Bob berg sped up the hill
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to the estate
and called the police.
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At the time that big Mac
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was shot and killed,
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big Mac's son Michael,
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he's the only one
up at the top of the hill.
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Obviously somebody wanted
Mr. McKenna dead,
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to be firing that many rounds
that quickly.
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That-- it wasn't a warning.
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They wanted to make sure
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that they took him down.
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We had crime scene folks
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process the scene.
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There was quite
a few cigarette butts
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behind the cinder block wall
that supported the gate.
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Which made US suspect
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that the person had perhaps been
hiding behind that block wall
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for the limo to stop.
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Big Mac McKenna
was able to manage
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a couple of words
while he died out there
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outside of his home.
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All Mac could say was
"tell my mom
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and dad I love them."
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And those were his last words.
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When I was a reporter
at the orange county register,
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I got a call
from the city editor saying,
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"there's been
a murder near you,
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and would you mind
checking it out?"
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As you're entering the property
you see this six-car garage.
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No cars are parked
inside the garage,
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'cause inside the garage,
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we found out was a live tiger,
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and an entire
alligator environment.
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And a live Jaguar.
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It's just beyond our realm
of reality.
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Wo, it was quite
an extravagant layout.
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Wealth is clearly
common in the o.C.
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But investigators and reporters
alike were astounded to find
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such a flamboyant display
of excess at the crime scene.
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Who was Horace McKenna?
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And what else
would be uncovered?
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They're trying to build
his background
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as much as they could,
and so they're contacting people
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in Los Angeles county
trying to piece together
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who this guy might've been.
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We came to find out, after
talking to Mr. Berg and others,
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that Horace McKenna was a forme
highway patrol officer.
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He was an interesting character
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from what we had been told.
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Horace McKenna,
also known as big Mac,
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was born in Louisiana.
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He was creole.
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He moved to California
with his parents as a youngster
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wanted to be a police officer.
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He was a leader, for sure.
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He was always in charge.
Large and in charge.
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But he also had
a great sense of humor.
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So, in 1982 when big Mac
introduced himself to me,
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he says, "hi. I'm big Mac.
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"I understand
you have a boyfriend,
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but when and if that changes,
let me know."
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He looked like a movie star.
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I couldn't stop
thinking about him.
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I think I fell in love
right then and there.
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The first time
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I met Horace McKenna,
I was about ten or 11.
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And he'd pick US up
one at a time and he'd fly down
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the street on the motorcycle
with the siren on.
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Big Mac loved
his Harley-Davidson.
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He really was an entertainer
at heart.
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He was the star of the show.
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As I got older, I realized
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what an impact he was doing for
the kids in the neighborhood.
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He's the kind of a guy
that you want to associate with.
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He's magnetic.
-And he was so handsome
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on that bike, yesiree.
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He was a huge man. Six foot six
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maybe close to 300 pounds.
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He made hulk hogan look small.
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He had muscles
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that you didn't even know about
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but he was not a bully.
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And he had the biggest heart.
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All the men wanted to be him
and all the women wanted him.
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They couldn't handle him,
though.
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How did this former
highway patrol officer,
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regarded by friends
as a gentle giant,
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end up living like a king
at the top of orange county?
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Could his rise to riches
have been connected
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to his ultimate downfall?
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Mac made his money
playing poker.
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After three days
of playing cards one time,
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Horace McKenna ended up
with $80,000-plus.
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Which started him
in his investment process.
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He resigned as a chp officer
and he went
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from this big goofy guy
on a motorcycle
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to an investor
in private businesses
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and became very wealthy
in a hurry.
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Well, we were told
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that Horace McKenna owned
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a number of strip clubs
in Los Angeles county.
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Big Mac McKenna owned
bare elegance,
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there was the jet strip
and there was valley ball.
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He was Bill Gates.
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You know, he was bloomberg.
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When I started
working at the jet strip
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and made friends with big Mac,
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he very much had
a chameleon personality.
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When he was at the strip club,
he was the kingpin,
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but when we were at the ranch,
away from the clubs,
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he wanted to just relax
and be his real self.
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Brea is a really slow-paced,
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quiet community.
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It was actually
green and beautiful.
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It was just rolling mountains
and hills.
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We had rattlesnakes
and-and deer
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and hawks flying in the air.
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It's par for the course
for the o.C. Business elite
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to separate work from home,
regardless of the industry.
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And big Mac's oasis
above brea was no different.
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Brea was a nice escape.
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He would go home
in his limousine to a hilltop
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surrounded by his exotic animals
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and live the kind of life
that he wanted to live.
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And it was beautiful.
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March 9, 1989,
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in the middle of the afternoon.
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And I got a call
from Rick baker.
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"Guess what,"
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you know,
"big Mac was just shot."
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He said,
"big Mac's been murdered."
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The day that
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that hit me...
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I think
I cried like the river.
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You know, I don't think
I stopped crying
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for a couple of hours.
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He was my family.
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We have so many people
that loved him.
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We lost an honorable man.
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He didn't deserve that.
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And he deserved justice.
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You never expect
someone like that to die.
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So strong and so tough.
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Sorry, I just miss him so much.
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I could have used him
the last 30 years.
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You know?
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This is not Chicago
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in the 1920s.
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This is a place
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where crimes
like this just don't happen.
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This looked like
a premeditated hit on big Mac,
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but who had the motive
to fell the friendly giant
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in such a malicious manner?
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The first place to look was
at big Mac's inner circle.
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Most homicides
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are gonna be committed
by somebody
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they work with,
live with or play with.
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Mac had had one son,
early to mid-20s.
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There's a lot of crimes
that are centered around cash,
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and so the brea police wondered
whether McKenna's killing
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had a lot to do with money
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and opportunity
to inherit his wealth.
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We, of course,
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had to consider the possibility
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that Michael had been involved
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or had knowledge of the homicid
prior to it happening.
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Somebody set fire
and burned down
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the infamous mustang club.
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It was the biggest
adult entertainment spot
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in orange county.
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It was a cutthroat business.
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It was really seedy.
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All the other club owners
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had a reason
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to be jealous.
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They had not been getting along
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prior to McKenna's murder.
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What have we got here?
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After strip club kingpin
Horace "big Mac" McKenna
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was gunned down outside
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of his lavish
orange county estate,
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investigators looked
to whether this was an attempt
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by his next of kin
at an early inheritance.
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When we spoke
to Michael McKenna,
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he was very hesitant
to share information.
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He was upset
that we were asking questions.
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It caused US concern. It seemed
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that he stood to gain
some things from his death.
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Could this have been
an inside job
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ordered by the o.C. Heir?
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Detectives began digging
into what Michael stood to gain
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when details emerged
that shaded their suspicion.
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I was contacted by
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a member of the Los Angeles
county d.A.'S office
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who told me
that he had been investigating
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Mac and some of the strip clubs
for a while.
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They were taking a percentage
off the top
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of what the girls
were supposed to be making.
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He supposedly was skimming off
the reported income at the door
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anything that you could
short the state on,
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anything related
to a-a cash business.
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Had sordid business practices
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led to his ultimate demise?
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As it turned out,
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big Mac McKenna had danced
on both sides of the law
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for most
of his professional life.
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His record went back
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long before he was a wealthy
orange county club owner
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to when he was
a Los Angeles motorcycle cop.
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McKenna
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rode a motorcycle
up and down sunset boulevard,
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enforcing the laws
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in one of the most high-profile
electric parts
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of southern California.
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He had been arrested,
and he had lost his job
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with the highway patrol
over in palm Springs.
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He apparently
was passing bad paper,
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and he had to spend
some time in jail.
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After his career was over,
several years later,
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he was charged with running
a prostitution ring.
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And he spent some time
in federal prison off that beef.
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Big Mac's long rap sheet
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meant he couldn't actually own
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any of his clubs
in L.A. or orange county,
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and that had major implications
in the investigation,
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including Michael McKenna's
potential involvement
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in his dad's murder.
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We knew that, at some level,
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Michael stood
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to gain some things
from his death.
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However,
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with big Mac
not having legal title
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on any of the clubs,
we didn't think
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that he likely stood to gain
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the assets
that McKenna controlled.
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We didn't have anything
to tie him to the homicide.
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So, if big Mac
didn't own his clubs,
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who was holding the legal title
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during the course
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of the investigation,
multiple people
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told US that Mike woods
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was the, essentially, front man
for McKenna.
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I was being told Mike woods
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was the owner of the club
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and had his own bodyguards
and his own group of friends,
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and Mac was the silent owner
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that had his own bodyguards
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and his own group of friends
and girls,
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but that big Mac
was really the boss of the club,
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and what he said goes.
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Big Mac and Mike woods
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were partners together
on the highway patrol.
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That's how they got to know
each other.
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00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,767
When McKenna was forced out
of the highway patrol,
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woods later followed,
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and they decided
to open a nightclub together.
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So, he needed Mike woods
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and his clean record to have him
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as the licensee
of the entertainment license
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and the liquor license.
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Neither one of the licenses
were in Horace McKenna's name.
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Mac couldn't have his name
on the paperwork at all
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and was a silent partner.
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And they would have
a distribution,
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00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:42,433
obviously,
of the money and the funds.
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And it was a partnership
that initially
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led them to a lot of wealth
and success.
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From our understanding,
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the main person
that was gonna benefit
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from Horace being gone
was Mike woods.
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00:15:56,667 --> 00:15:59,767
My understanding was
they had not been getting along
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00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,533
prior to McKenna's murder.
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00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:05,100
Big Mac and Mike woods
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00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:07,100
were like polar opposites.
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Big Mac was
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a tall, strapping ladies' man.
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Life of the party.
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00:16:14,567 --> 00:16:16,700
And Mike woods
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00:16:16,734 --> 00:16:20,133
looked like a frumpy accountant
354
00:16:20,166 --> 00:16:22,166
who did not have
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00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,633
the type of charisma
or personality
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00:16:24,667 --> 00:16:27,033
that McKenna did.
357
00:16:27,066 --> 00:16:29,700
But he was good with the books
and with the money.
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00:16:29,734 --> 00:16:31,500
Mike woods
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00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:32,767
was more of an elitist.
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00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,100
He wasn't a common
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00:16:34,133 --> 00:16:35,533
guy next door.
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00:16:35,567 --> 00:16:37,500
Mike woods' nickname
was Mike "weird."
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00:16:37,533 --> 00:16:39,600
When I met Mike woods, he shook
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00:16:39,633 --> 00:16:42,667
my hand, and he said,
"how would you like
365
00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:45,333
to go to my sister's club
and do a wet t-shirt contest?"
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00:16:45,367 --> 00:16:48,467
Just right like that.
That was his only words to me.
367
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:52,000
And I said, "okay."
And the girls
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00:16:52,033 --> 00:16:53,433
told me, "it's okay. He's fine.
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00:16:53,467 --> 00:16:55,734
He's a little weird,
but he's safe."
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00:16:55,767 --> 00:16:58,667
So, I went with Mike woods
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00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:00,700
in his white Rolls-Royce
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00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:03,467
to do a wet t-shirt contest.
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00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,100
So, I did
the wet t-shirt contest.
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00:17:05,133 --> 00:17:06,400
I won that. Got my tips,
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00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:08,700
and he drove me back
to the jet strip.
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00:17:08,734 --> 00:17:11,266
It was a little mind-boggling,
actually,
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00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:13,133
that I went
into a stranger's car,
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00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:15,233
but he was a perfect gentleman.
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00:17:15,266 --> 00:17:17,133
Mike woods
was a perfect gentleman.
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00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:20,433
Big Mac and Mike woods
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00:17:20,467 --> 00:17:23,133
were a contrast in styles
for sure,
382
00:17:23,166 --> 00:17:27,367
but woods had no criminal recor
or any history of violence.
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00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,667
Would he really stab his partne
in the back?
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00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,567
The two men
had helped each other rise
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00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,200
from humble chopper cops
to the heights
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00:17:34,233 --> 00:17:36,700
of upper Echelon o.C.
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00:17:36,734 --> 00:17:38,734
So detectives turned
their attention to enemies
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00:17:38,767 --> 00:17:41,333
Mac and woods
might have had in common:
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00:17:41,367 --> 00:17:43,000
Their competitors.
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00:17:43,033 --> 00:17:44,066
I-In the industry
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00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:45,133
that Horace McKenna,
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00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:46,633
big Mac, was in,
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00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:48,467
it was a cutthroat business.
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00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:50,166
You got to remember, back then,
395
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,633
the '80s were pretty crazy
in L.A.,
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00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:55,300
so it was all biker guys
that went to those places.
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00:17:55,333 --> 00:17:57,200
It was really seedy.
398
00:17:58,367 --> 00:18:00,133
You had characters
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00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:03,100
that would not hesitate
if necessary
400
00:18:03,133 --> 00:18:04,367
to take you out.
401
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,734
That was not a problem
402
00:18:05,767 --> 00:18:08,633
with a lot of the owners
that were in that business.
403
00:18:10,066 --> 00:18:13,467
We started focusing
on trying to find out
404
00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:15,734
who the different players were
at the clubs
405
00:18:15,767 --> 00:18:19,667
and which one of those folks
might have had
406
00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:23,600
the incentive
to either commit the homicide
407
00:18:23,633 --> 00:18:26,133
or hire the homicide out.
408
00:18:28,033 --> 00:18:30,333
The wild goose was another club
409
00:18:30,367 --> 00:18:33,467
in the same area
as McKenna's clubs.
410
00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:36,600
We were told McKenna
was actually trying to get
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00:18:36,633 --> 00:18:40,333
the owners together
and have the same prices,
412
00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:43,767
and, not everybody
was willing to go along.
413
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,700
The wild goose suffered a fire
of suspicious nature,
414
00:18:47,734 --> 00:18:50,567
and many people
seem to think that Mac
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00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,734
had a connection to that arson.
416
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,700
As investigators probed
the brutal shooting
417
00:19:05,033 --> 00:19:06,433
of Horace "big Mac" McKenna,
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00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:09,066
rumors floated
that a flaming feud
419
00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:10,233
had resulted in arson.
420
00:19:10,266 --> 00:19:11,533
The story spilled
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00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,233
into the heart of orange county
422
00:19:13,266 --> 00:19:15,000
where south o.C. Power brokers
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00:19:15,033 --> 00:19:18,133
were known to look down
on their northern rivals.
424
00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:21,300
The mustang club in
orange county, harbor boulevard
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00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:23,200
was the biggest
adult entertainment spot
426
00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:24,367
in orange county.
427
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,300
One day, somebody set fire
428
00:19:26,333 --> 00:19:27,533
and burned down
most of the mustang.
429
00:19:27,567 --> 00:19:28,600
It was pretty much
seriously damaged.
430
00:19:28,633 --> 00:19:30,567
And then three months later,
431
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,266
somebody else came back
and finished the job
432
00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:34,567
and burned it to the ground.
It was never open again.
433
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,033
Was big Mac
trying to buy the mustang?
434
00:19:38,066 --> 00:19:39,700
Is there some connection there?
435
00:19:39,734 --> 00:19:41,567
When somebody crossed him,
he would say,
436
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,000
"it could happen to here, too,
just what happened
437
00:19:43,033 --> 00:19:44,500
to the mustang."
So he kind of used that
438
00:19:44,533 --> 00:19:46,467
in his repertoire of threats.
439
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:51,000
There were a lot of people
that hated Mac.
440
00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:53,367
There were a lot of people
threatening him.
441
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,633
There was a lot of bad guys
floating around.
442
00:19:55,667 --> 00:19:59,033
There was a lot of people
had reason to hurt him.
443
00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:01,667
And the police at the time
were going in there
444
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:04,166
and questioning people,
but nobody was talking.
445
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,767
We did not have a shortage
of potential suspects.
446
00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:09,567
But many of the employees
447
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,066
at the clubs were hesitant
to speak with US.
448
00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:14,266
I think some of the employees
were scared.
449
00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:16,333
And we didn't have
450
00:20:16,367 --> 00:20:19,333
an opportunity
to talk to a lot of patrons.
451
00:20:19,367 --> 00:20:21,533
I'm sure people traveled
452
00:20:21,567 --> 00:20:24,066
from orange county up to L.A.
to these clubs.
453
00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:28,333
I think some didn't want
to have their name come up
454
00:20:28,367 --> 00:20:30,567
as somebody
who was frequenting these clubs.
455
00:20:32,533 --> 00:20:35,033
If no one from Mac's world
456
00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:38,066
was showing up to talk to polic
about his murder,
457
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:40,500
every one of them seemed to wan
a place at his funeral.
458
00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:42,767
It attracted
a legendary collection
459
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,333
of those who knew, loved
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00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:47,567
and tangled
with this towering figure
461
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,300
of the southern California
underworld.
462
00:20:54,266 --> 00:20:56,700
It was a circus.
463
00:20:56,734 --> 00:20:59,667
All the other strippers in town
showed up,
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00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:01,367
which I wasn't too happy about
465
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,367
because the family
didn't want that.
466
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,533
They wanted to just have
467
00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:07,233
a very private memorial service
468
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:09,100
for just the family.
469
00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:11,400
The mckennas were there.
-They were
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00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:14,033
hurt and crying, tears.
471
00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:15,133
It was real hard times,
472
00:21:15,166 --> 00:21:17,633
especially for Mike, his son.
473
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:21,166
He didn't know
all of his father's business.
474
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,767
All this stuff
thrown in your face right now,
475
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,667
and you got to try to figure out
all of this stuff out.
476
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,600
And I felt sorry for Mike
because Mike wasn't ready.
477
00:21:30,633 --> 00:21:33,033
He didn't know what to do.
478
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:39,133
But while all those
who knew Mac well
479
00:21:39,166 --> 00:21:40,233
or even wanted to
480
00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:41,533
had clamored to show up,
481
00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,533
the most likely attendee
482
00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:47,200
was suspiciously absent
from the grieving crowds.
483
00:21:47,233 --> 00:21:49,000
Mike woods was Mia.
484
00:21:49,033 --> 00:21:52,400
He was missing in action on
the funeral of-of his partner.
485
00:21:52,433 --> 00:21:53,567
This was his partner.
486
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,033
Several people
487
00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:57,300
from my police department
attended
488
00:21:57,333 --> 00:21:58,500
the graveside service.
489
00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:00,333
And when Mike woods failed
490
00:22:00,367 --> 00:22:02,533
to attend the funeral,
491
00:22:02,567 --> 00:22:05,633
that certainly increased
our suspicion.
492
00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:08,133
The relationship
493
00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:10,367
between Michael and big Mac
started to deteriorate,
494
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,633
and it deteriorated fast.
495
00:22:11,667 --> 00:22:13,467
Big Mac was skimming more
496
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,467
and living more
of an extravagant lifestyle,
497
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,033
and Michael perhaps knew
that law enforcement
498
00:22:18,066 --> 00:22:20,166
was taking a look
at their activities.
499
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,467
Mike woods
500
00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:23,266
may have also wondered whether
501
00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:27,367
McKenna's personality was gonna
bring the police down on him.
502
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,266
Mike woods didn't like
Horace McKenna.
503
00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:33,166
Horace McKenna humiliated him
on several occasions.
504
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,166
I literally saw Mac in the
office bitch-slap Mike woods.
505
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,700
It was really degrading.
And I loved Mac,
506
00:22:39,734 --> 00:22:43,567
but I just-- I really did
feel bad for Mike woods.
507
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,166
He was terrified
of Horace McKenna.
508
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,734
That even gave me more
of a reason to say,
509
00:22:47,767 --> 00:22:50,600
"this is the guy that would
want to have him killed."
510
00:22:52,066 --> 00:22:53,600
So, what would happen was
511
00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:56,200
the bodyguards
would kind of step in
512
00:22:56,233 --> 00:23:00,200
to guard their guys and get them
out of the situation.
513
00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:02,734
And English Dave,
he was great
514
00:23:02,767 --> 00:23:07,033
at keeping the situation calm
between Mac and Mike.
515
00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:09,200
David Amos,
516
00:23:09,233 --> 00:23:10,233
his name came up
517
00:23:10,266 --> 00:23:12,100
during the investigation.
518
00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:15,100
He was a part-time actor
who had a role,
519
00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:18,333
more or less,
as a bodyguard at the clubs.
520
00:23:18,367 --> 00:23:20,734
But that role expanded
to part-time owner
521
00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:24,433
after Horace McKenna's killing.
522
00:23:24,467 --> 00:23:25,533
The fact that Mike woods
523
00:23:25,567 --> 00:23:27,533
took a guy that was strong-arm
524
00:23:27,567 --> 00:23:29,633
and suddenly he's managing
a club for him,
525
00:23:29,667 --> 00:23:31,767
that was suspicious.
526
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,400
He went from being a bodyguard
to someone who's making
527
00:23:35,433 --> 00:23:38,200
significant wealth.
528
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,667
After the assassination
of Horace,
529
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,266
Mike woods and English Dave
530
00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:45,767
lived like the prince
and the king.
531
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,633
At some point, David Amos
532
00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,467
had so much wealth
533
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:53,400
that he ended up buying a boat
for himself and he named it
534
00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:55,066
wankers aweigh.
535
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,500
There was no one month
536
00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:58,100
or six weeks of mourning.
537
00:23:58,133 --> 00:23:59,467
You know, there wasn't
"let's play it--
538
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,533
let's low-profile
the-the situation."
539
00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:03,667
No, instead they went sky-high.
540
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:06,200
We strongly believed
541
00:24:06,233 --> 00:24:08,066
that Mike woods
was behind the murder.
542
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,734
But the fact is that
there's a huge leap between
543
00:24:11,767 --> 00:24:14,367
having suspicion
of somebody's involvement
544
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,066
and being able to prove
545
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:19,300
that somebody was involved
in something like this.
546
00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:22,333
I'm looking for justice
for the victim and answers
547
00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:23,467
for the family.
548
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:24,600
We needed to convict
549
00:24:24,633 --> 00:24:26,600
the-the folks responsible
for this,
550
00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:28,500
and we were at a standstill.
551
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,533
They need a break.
And they got one.
552
00:24:34,567 --> 00:24:36,667
This young man came forward.
553
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,133
He's caught up
554
00:24:39,166 --> 00:24:40,600
in a nasty feud.
555
00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:42,467
He said,
"how much trouble am I in?"
556
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:44,567
I never dreamed
he would be involved
557
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,367
in something that evil.
558
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,734
There's an old saying,
559
00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:50,200
"sometimes, if you want
something done right,
560
00:24:50,233 --> 00:24:52,133
you just got to do it yourself."
561
00:24:53,066 --> 00:24:54,700
So he began working
562
00:24:54,734 --> 00:24:57,000
as a confidential informant
for US.
563
00:25:05,266 --> 00:25:06,533
Detectives had exposed
years of friction
564
00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:10,600
between beloved
and revered strip club mogul
565
00:25:10,633 --> 00:25:12,266
Horace "big Mac" McKenna
566
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,266
and his business partner,
Mike woods.
567
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,266
But woods wasn't looking
to make their jobs easier.
568
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,667
Did anything connect him
to the crime?
569
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:22,333
In this case,
570
00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:24,333
they didn't have very much
evidence against
571
00:25:24,367 --> 00:25:28,033
Mr. Woods except that there was
some problems emanating
572
00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:30,066
between Mr. Woods
and Mr. McKenna.
573
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:34,166
And so this is potentially
the motive behind it.
574
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,734
We wanted to interview
Mike woods.
575
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,300
As a suspect, we felt
576
00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:43,066
that he would intentionally try
to avoid US.
577
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,200
Unless he's under arrest,
578
00:25:45,233 --> 00:25:48,767
I don't have the ability
to force him to talk to me.
579
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,533
We did not have the-the evidence
to arrest him.
580
00:25:52,567 --> 00:25:55,600
There really wasn't much further
we could take it with him.
581
00:25:55,633 --> 00:25:57,433
So they had suspects,
582
00:25:57,467 --> 00:26:00,100
particularly Michael woods, and
they're looking at English Dave
583
00:26:00,133 --> 00:26:02,066
and they were knocking on doors
584
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:03,633
but they couldn't get that nexus
585
00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:05,667
that put the investigation
together.
586
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:08,200
By the time 1990 rolled along,
587
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,767
we had pretty much exhausted
every lead that we had.
588
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,233
Majority of folks
would not talk to US out of fea
589
00:26:15,266 --> 00:26:17,166
of either retaliation.
590
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,100
And we were at a standstill.
591
00:26:19,133 --> 00:26:21,734
At the time things went cold,
592
00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:25,667
Mike woods was still
our primary suspect.
593
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:30,100
Just as big Mac had exploded
onto the scene in orange county
594
00:26:30,133 --> 00:26:33,333
he also disappeared
with a bang...
595
00:26:33,367 --> 00:26:35,533
Leaving both family
and investigators
596
00:26:35,567 --> 00:26:37,400
shell-shocked for years,
597
00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:41,667
with no way to bring
his suspected killer to justice
598
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,000
the brea police department
599
00:26:44,033 --> 00:26:46,066
put in hundreds of hours
on the case.
600
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:48,600
It's extremely frustrating,
601
00:26:48,633 --> 00:26:50,333
having put in that much time
602
00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:52,533
and that much effort into trying
603
00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:55,734
to bring justice for our victim
604
00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,533
once it became a cold case,
605
00:26:59,567 --> 00:27:01,300
I was so devastated.
606
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:06,400
I really didn't think
it would ever be solved.
607
00:27:06,433 --> 00:27:08,433
I held out hope all the way
608
00:27:08,467 --> 00:27:13,300
that we would get justice
for Mac's parents
609
00:27:13,333 --> 00:27:14,567
and his son,
610
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
that were the nicest people.
611
00:27:17,033 --> 00:27:19,266
Mike, you know, he asked me
612
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,467
if I would speak
in his father's behalf.
613
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,133
Just...
614
00:27:24,166 --> 00:27:28,700
Make sure that the media knew
the macs that we know.
615
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:33,033
I think big Mac's legacy
was stolen from him.
616
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:36,200
It's hard to duplicate
a man like that, you know?
617
00:27:36,233 --> 00:27:39,100
And I made sure
I let that be known.
618
00:27:39,133 --> 00:27:40,633
He was a better man
619
00:27:40,667 --> 00:27:43,400
than what some people may think.
620
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,033
It was very upsetting,
621
00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:49,100
as time went on
622
00:27:49,133 --> 00:27:51,266
and nobody's telling the family
623
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,266
where the investigation
is going, you know?
624
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:59,133
But I knew somebody would say
something sooner or later.
625
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,633
After these crimes,
626
00:28:02,667 --> 00:28:06,734
Mike woods and David Amos
produced and acted in a movie
627
00:28:06,767 --> 00:28:08,467
called the takeover
628
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,133
about an ex-con who...
629
00:28:11,166 --> 00:28:15,200
Commits murders
to take over a strip club.
630
00:28:15,233 --> 00:28:17,700
It was ridiculous that
he would do something like that.
631
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,333
Mike woods
and English Dave's movie
632
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,700
might have seemed to some
to give away the plot,
633
00:28:23,734 --> 00:28:27,567
except it didn't prove anything
that could hold up in court.
634
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,100
A decade passed,
635
00:28:29,133 --> 00:28:31,700
and big Mac's story
became legend,
636
00:28:31,734 --> 00:28:33,266
a lover and a fighter
637
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,266
who had straddled two worlds,
638
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:38,000
between the scandalous
strip clubs of south L.A.
639
00:28:38,033 --> 00:28:40,100
And the opulence
of orange county.
640
00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:45,133
But the legend was still lackin
a lawful ending.
641
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,367
Every once in a while,
642
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,467
for a case that
hadn't been solved for years,
643
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,000
somebody from Newport beach
police department
644
00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:55,400
will bring it up
to the orange county
645
00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:58,233
d.a.'s office
to do a cold case review.
646
00:28:58,266 --> 00:29:00,033
Orange county got one
647
00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:03,066
of the most experienced
detectives in California
648
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,533
about organized crime,
649
00:29:04,567 --> 00:29:06,066
a detective named Rick Morton.
650
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,100
And they need a break.
651
00:29:08,133 --> 00:29:09,467
And they got one.
652
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:11,533
February of 2000,
a man comes forward
653
00:29:11,567 --> 00:29:12,600
and says he knows something
654
00:29:12,633 --> 00:29:15,033
about what happened to big Mac.
655
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:18,233
Johnny Sheridan
656
00:29:18,266 --> 00:29:20,233
was a confidential informant
657
00:29:20,266 --> 00:29:23,133
for a police officer
in ventura county.
658
00:29:23,166 --> 00:29:25,133
And at some point,
he decided
659
00:29:25,166 --> 00:29:28,467
to get this case off
of his shoulders.
660
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:32,633
I arrested Johnny Sheridan
in 1987
661
00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:34,567
for sales of cocaine.
662
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,734
Johnny decided he would
rather try to help himself out
663
00:29:38,767 --> 00:29:41,333
than to go to prison
at the time.
664
00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:46,533
So he began working as
a confidential informant for US
665
00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:49,400
John Sheridan was a hanger-on,
kind of like
666
00:29:49,433 --> 00:29:52,233
a gofer at different clubs
owned by big Mac.
667
00:29:52,266 --> 00:29:54,467
Overall, I would say Johnny's
668
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:57,200
a really good kid.
He's very intelligent,
669
00:29:57,233 --> 00:29:58,734
very quick-witted.
670
00:29:58,767 --> 00:30:00,400
He was never
in the upper Echelon
671
00:30:00,433 --> 00:30:02,567
of big Mac's characters
that he trusted.
672
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,100
He was kind of an outsider
working in security
673
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:08,166
and working at the disposal
674
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,300
of big Mac and Mike woods.
675
00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:13,734
But he was closer to Mike woods
than he was to Mac.
676
00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:16,567
He actually became a good friend
of, English Dave's.
677
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,600
Very good friend.
-I do believe
678
00:30:18,633 --> 00:30:22,567
Johnny was looking for a big
brother-type, father figure.
679
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,166
I think that's why
he kind of latched on to me.
680
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,734
But I also think
that's kind of why he latched on
681
00:30:27,767 --> 00:30:30,333
to English Dave at the clubs.
682
00:30:30,367 --> 00:30:34,133
I believe it was right around
February of 2000
683
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:38,367
when John called
and brought up the big Mac case
684
00:30:39,166 --> 00:30:40,633
after Johnny called
685
00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:45,300
and told me that he wanted
to talk about big Mac,
686
00:30:45,333 --> 00:30:47,200
he said he'd meet me at the bar
687
00:30:47,233 --> 00:30:50,533
and once I brought up the topic
688
00:30:50,567 --> 00:30:54,567
he told me he was nervous
about meeting with me.
689
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,033
He had heard that orange county
690
00:30:56,066 --> 00:30:58,166
had opened
the investigation again.
691
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,100
He said,
"how much trouble am I in?"
692
00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:02,633
And I said something like,
"well, Johnny,
693
00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:05,200
"I've kind of gotten you out
of a lot of arrests
694
00:31:05,233 --> 00:31:07,433
"and a lot of jail time
in the past.
695
00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:09,467
"It kind of depends
on your involvement.
696
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,066
But, you know,
if you're the shooter--"
697
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,000
and I was kind of joking--
698
00:31:13,033 --> 00:31:15,066
"I don't know
what would happen."
699
00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,734
And he looked down at the table
700
00:31:17,767 --> 00:31:20,567
and then he looked back up.
701
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,767
And what Johnny said,
702
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,567
it was a shock.
703
00:31:34,467 --> 00:31:35,433
Ten years after the slaying
704
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:39,467
of orange county mogul
"big Mac" McKenna,
705
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,367
a former bit player
by the name of John Sheridan
706
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,433
came forward
with some startling revelations
707
00:31:47,633 --> 00:31:50,533
I said, "if you provided
the car, not a problem.
708
00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:52,667
"We can work with that.
If you provided the gun,
709
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:54,367
"it's not a death sentence,
right?
710
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,000
"But, you know,
if you're the shooter,
711
00:31:56,033 --> 00:31:57,400
I don't know what would happen.
712
00:31:57,433 --> 00:31:59,200
And then he looked back down
at the table
713
00:31:59,233 --> 00:32:00,600
and he looked straight up at me
714
00:32:00,633 --> 00:32:02,300
and he shook his head
up and down
715
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:03,567
and he had his thumb
716
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,734
and his finger out,
717
00:32:04,767 --> 00:32:08,233
simulating a gun
and him pulling the trigger.
718
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,166
At which time, I said,
719
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,734
"are you kidding me?
720
00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:15,533
"I have no idea
721
00:32:15,567 --> 00:32:17,266
"how we're gonna handle this,
722
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,166
"but I know this guy,
Rick Morton,
723
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,567
"and I trust him and he's...
724
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,433
"Involved heavily
in this investigation.
725
00:32:22,467 --> 00:32:24,567
"I think you should sit down
726
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,700
and talk to him,"
727
00:32:25,734 --> 00:32:28,567
which he agreed to at the time.
728
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,633
The conscience
is a tricky thing.
729
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:33,367
Some people can store
the conscience forever
730
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,567
and some people can't.
731
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,767
This guy
just completely came clean
732
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,166
and talked about doing
this notorious crime himself.
733
00:32:44,033 --> 00:32:48,333
English Dave and Mike woods
734
00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:51,600
wanted Horace McKenna killed,
735
00:32:51,633 --> 00:32:54,000
and Johnny apparently told
English Dave
736
00:32:54,033 --> 00:32:55,734
that he knew someone,
737
00:32:55,767 --> 00:32:58,367
and they actually gave Johnny
some money.
738
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,533
And then, when Johnny told them
who the target was,
739
00:33:00,567 --> 00:33:02,700
they backed out.
740
00:33:02,734 --> 00:33:05,734
Johnny said he kept getting
pressured from English Dave
741
00:33:05,767 --> 00:33:09,333
to get it done, and he finally
gave in to the pressure,
742
00:33:09,367 --> 00:33:12,200
and decided
he would do it himself.
743
00:33:13,266 --> 00:33:15,100
Actually, his quote was,
744
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:16,433
"there's an old saying.
745
00:33:16,467 --> 00:33:18,133
"Sometimes if you want something
done right,
746
00:33:18,166 --> 00:33:21,100
you just got to do it yourself.
747
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:22,433
And he gets an advance,
748
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:24,066
used the money
to buy an uzi submachine gun.
749
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,667
While he was explaining it
750
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:27,400
to US, he was reliving
751
00:33:27,433 --> 00:33:30,500
what happened that night.
752
00:33:30,533 --> 00:33:34,066
March 9,
he goes out and sits there
753
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,166
with his submachine gun, and
754
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,367
waits for big Mac to arrive.
755
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,500
Sheridan said,
756
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:41,500
"I went and I found
a good hiding place.
757
00:33:41,533 --> 00:33:43,166
"When the limousine stopped
at the gate,
758
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,500
"I jumped out of the bushes,
and I opened fire,
759
00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:49,333
"and I fired enough bullets
that I knew
760
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:51,200
there's no way
that he could have survived."
761
00:33:53,433 --> 00:33:57,300
I remember kind of
feeling queasy,
762
00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,500
because I never dreamed
763
00:33:59,533 --> 00:34:02,367
he would be involved
in something that evil.
764
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,533
As he left the area,
765
00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:07,633
he threw the uzi
into the harbor,
766
00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:10,734
and I know
that they never found it.
767
00:34:10,767 --> 00:34:13,600
Sheridan admitted
to pulling the trigger,
768
00:34:13,633 --> 00:34:16,000
but justice
in a murder-for-hire plot comes
769
00:34:16,033 --> 00:34:18,333
from bagging
whoever ordered the hit,
770
00:34:18,367 --> 00:34:20,467
and with no hard evidence
to achieve that,
771
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,767
detectives needed
to keep digging.
772
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,667
Can't just use the
co-conspirator's word for it.
773
00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:28,734
They've got to get evidence
against the guy who hired him.
774
00:34:34,033 --> 00:34:37,767
During the time
that the case was a cold case,
775
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,533
Mac came to me in my dreams
every night for ten years.
776
00:34:44,066 --> 00:34:46,700
In my dreams,
he was always so loving.
777
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:54,166
The former motorcycle cop
turned strip club kingpin
778
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,433
left a multifaceted legacy.
779
00:34:56,467 --> 00:34:58,767
While some felt safer
in his absence,
780
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,166
many missed the wild,
romantic giant
781
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,200
and were relieved as justice
seemed to be on the horizon.
782
00:35:07,533 --> 00:35:10,633
I am so grateful
that they decided
783
00:35:10,667 --> 00:35:14,266
to pick up this case,
that they felt
784
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:15,700
the same way that I did--
785
00:35:15,734 --> 00:35:18,233
that he didn't deserve this,
no matter what.
786
00:35:18,266 --> 00:35:22,600
And we want to solve it.
787
00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:25,600
I was happy. Ooh!
788
00:35:25,633 --> 00:35:28,300
The weight was lifted
off of my shoulders
789
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,000
of always wondering.
790
00:35:33,734 --> 00:35:35,533
The case was gaining momentum
791
00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:38,233
after John Sheridan confessed
792
00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:41,700
to killing controversial
orange county icon big Mac.
793
00:35:41,734 --> 00:35:45,133
Investigators had their sights
set on scheming suspects
794
00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:48,333
Mike woods and his suave
henchman English Dave.
795
00:35:48,367 --> 00:35:51,600
Johnny felt that he could
get English Dave
796
00:35:51,633 --> 00:35:54,100
to talk about the murder.
797
00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:56,633
The orange county guys
put together a plan.
798
00:35:56,667 --> 00:36:00,467
They would cover Johnny
while he wore a wire
799
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:05,500
nights that he worked
at the clubs.
800
00:36:05,533 --> 00:36:07,400
Normally, you have a plan
where you can rescue them
801
00:36:07,433 --> 00:36:10,100
if things go wrong.
In this case,
802
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:14,066
had they found the wire
with Johnny inside the clubs,
803
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,467
I don't think
any of US were confident
804
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,367
that we would get there before
805
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,100
they could harm Johnny.
806
00:36:20,133 --> 00:36:21,734
There's always that risk.
807
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,467
A lot of recordings
were just normal
808
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,433
strip club business
that we could hear.
809
00:36:29,467 --> 00:36:31,333
They were coming close.
810
00:36:31,367 --> 00:36:33,600
I mean, they were getting some
bits and pieces on the wire.
811
00:36:33,633 --> 00:36:35,233
But they're not sure
they got 100% enough
812
00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:36,567
to prosecute English Dave.
813
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,700
They finally came up
with this scheme
814
00:36:38,734 --> 00:36:41,100
from this story
about English Dave offering
815
00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:42,767
$50,000, all totaled,
816
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,367
to John Sheridan for the murder
of big Mac McKenna.
817
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,700
And he only got $25,000.
818
00:36:47,734 --> 00:36:50,100
"They promised you $50,000,
so maybe if you brought that up
819
00:36:50,133 --> 00:36:53,133
"to English Dave, maybe
he'll start talking about it,
820
00:36:53,166 --> 00:36:56,166
and we can get
some incriminating evidence."
821
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,333
Johnny would have
to walk a tightrope
822
00:36:58,367 --> 00:37:00,033
by demanding payment
for the murder,
823
00:37:00,066 --> 00:37:01,633
but without raising
the suspicions
824
00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:04,033
of Mike woods
and English Dave.
825
00:37:04,066 --> 00:37:06,467
Would a red flag cause them
to silence him
826
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:09,500
just like they did
beloved big Mac?
827
00:37:10,734 --> 00:37:13,200
English Dave didn't give Johnny
a hard time at all. It was,
828
00:37:13,233 --> 00:37:15,133
"yeah, you know what, Johnny?
You're right.
829
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:16,533
I'll get the money together."
830
00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:18,433
No hesitancy at all.
831
00:37:18,467 --> 00:37:21,600
The investigators were able
832
00:37:21,633 --> 00:37:24,400
to set up Mr. Amos
833
00:37:24,433 --> 00:37:27,700
on audiotape and videotape.
834
00:37:27,734 --> 00:37:31,200
The remaining balance of $25,000
was turned over to Mr. Sheridan
835
00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:36,266
by Mr. Amos as satisfaction
of the $25,000 debt
836
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,300
that was owed to Mr. Sheridan
837
00:37:38,333 --> 00:37:41,433
as a result of the murder
that took place back in 1989.
838
00:37:41,467 --> 00:37:43,567
They swooped in
839
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,133
and picked up English Dave.
840
00:37:45,166 --> 00:37:48,166
And English Dave
suddenly realizes,
841
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,633
"hey, man, I've been played."
842
00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:53,433
They had enough
to prosecute English Dave.
843
00:37:53,467 --> 00:37:56,367
But also they know that he's no
844
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,633
the end-all
of the investigation.
845
00:37:57,667 --> 00:37:58,633
He's not the one that organized
846
00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,166
the crime itself.
847
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,533
English Dave works
for Mike woods,
848
00:38:02,567 --> 00:38:06,066
and Mike woods is the big fish.
849
00:38:07,734 --> 00:38:11,333
David Amos had two options--
850
00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:14,367
face a life prison sentence, or
851
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,300
do whatever he could to help
the police get Mike woods.
852
00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:20,467
To sit down with Michael woods
853
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:24,500
and get him to make
an incriminating statement
854
00:38:24,533 --> 00:38:27,000
while wearing a wire.
855
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:40,300
An orange county police sting
856
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,000
had caught English Dave Amos
857
00:38:43,033 --> 00:38:45,333
paying off big Mac McKenna's
shooter,
858
00:38:45,367 --> 00:38:47,367
but Dave was claiming innocence
859
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,266
leaving investigators no closer
to their real target--
860
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,300
kingpin Mike woods.
861
00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:56,533
We had a conversation
862
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:58,633
about whether or not we should
863
00:38:58,667 --> 00:39:00,734
explain to English Dave
that Johnny,
864
00:39:00,767 --> 00:39:03,433
the informant,
was cooperating.
865
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:05,600
Johnny agreed to talk to Dave
866
00:39:05,633 --> 00:39:07,400
and explain that
867
00:39:07,433 --> 00:39:11,533
he was cooperating, and
English Dave should do the same
868
00:39:11,567 --> 00:39:13,667
after Johnny talked
to English Dave,
869
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,166
Dave's demeanor totally changed
870
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,266
English Dave then turned
on Mike woods, and said, "yeah.
871
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:22,600
"I was the agent. I was the one
who gave Sheridan the money,
872
00:39:22,633 --> 00:39:27,066
"but it was given to me
by my boss, Mike woods.
873
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,200
"Woods was the one responsible,
orchestrated the whole
874
00:39:30,233 --> 00:39:32,567
assassination."
875
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,533
And it took him
maybe five or six minutes
876
00:39:36,567 --> 00:39:39,300
to then say that he would
cooperate and try to get
877
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:40,734
Mike woods
to have a conversation
878
00:39:40,767 --> 00:39:42,600
about the conspiracy.
879
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:47,033
And it was the very next day
on October 27
880
00:39:47,066 --> 00:39:49,066
that Dave Amos met
with Mike woods.
881
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:51,166
English Dave arranged
882
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,433
to meet Mike woods at a deli
in the San Fernando valley.
883
00:39:55,467 --> 00:39:58,000
The orange county guys
actually had
884
00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:01,333
the d.A. That was going
to prosecute the case out
885
00:40:01,367 --> 00:40:03,166
on surveillance with them,
886
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,400
listening to the wire
that English Dave was wearing.
887
00:40:06,433 --> 00:40:10,166
During that conversation
at the deli,
888
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,133
David Amos looked at Mike woods
and said,
889
00:40:13,166 --> 00:40:17,533
"if I take the fall for you, ar
you gonna look after my family?
890
00:40:17,567 --> 00:40:21,000
And Mike woods said,
"yes, Dave."
891
00:40:21,033 --> 00:40:24,066
That doesn't sound like
the words of an innocent man.
892
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,166
So just after that lunch,
893
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,066
when David Amos was secretly
recording the conversation,
894
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,367
Mike woods emerged
from the restaurant,
895
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,633
and police swooped in
and arrested him.
896
00:40:37,133 --> 00:40:41,600
Over a decade
after big Mac McKenna was kille
897
00:40:41,633 --> 00:40:43,734
in the quiet hills
of orange county
898
00:40:43,767 --> 00:40:46,166
he had worked so hard
to attain,
899
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,567
the trio who did him in
were finally brought in
900
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,233
for the gangland lifestyle
big Mac himself had prescribed.
901
00:40:53,266 --> 00:40:56,300
John Sheridan, David Amos
902
00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:59,033
and Mike woods
had been arrested,
903
00:40:59,066 --> 00:41:01,533
and all three of them
were in jail.
904
00:41:01,567 --> 00:41:05,033
When I found out
these people had got caught,
905
00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:07,166
well, I went out
for a couple drinks that night.
906
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,433
I was happy.
907
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,133
We knew. We knew it.
908
00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:17,266
On August 22, 2001, Mr. Woods
909
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:18,567
went to trial.
910
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,066
This case
911
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,500
had everything
the prosecution needed--
912
00:41:22,533 --> 00:41:24,500
a secretly-recorded conversatio
913
00:41:24,533 --> 00:41:27,767
in which he makes several
highly-incriminating statements
914
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,567
he had, as they say,
the motive,
915
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,400
the means and the opportunity.
916
00:41:33,433 --> 00:41:35,000
This murder took place
917
00:41:35,033 --> 00:41:37,433
because Michael woods
wanted it to happen,
918
00:41:37,467 --> 00:41:42,266
because Horace McKenna, big Mac
was a threat to him, and
919
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,600
David Amos, knowing that he
would get an ownership interest
920
00:41:45,633 --> 00:41:49,734
in the clubs, was more than
willing to make this happen.
921
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,667
During the trial, the lawyer
for Mike woods tried
922
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:01,033
to pin the murder
on John Sheridan.
923
00:42:01,066 --> 00:42:02,400
That didn't work.
924
00:42:02,433 --> 00:42:03,734
Michael woods was convicted
925
00:42:03,767 --> 00:42:06,233
of first degree murder
for financial gain,
926
00:42:06,266 --> 00:42:09,700
and he was sentenced by
the judge to 25 years to life.
927
00:42:09,734 --> 00:42:13,166
I can't say that I noticed
928
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,200
any remorse in Mike woods the
whole time I watched the trial.
929
00:42:17,233 --> 00:42:19,500
Because of their cooperation,
930
00:42:19,533 --> 00:42:22,700
David Amos and John Sheridan
were eligible
931
00:42:22,734 --> 00:42:25,000
to plead guilty
to lesser charges,
932
00:42:25,033 --> 00:42:27,667
and they received
reduced sentences.
933
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,000
Both of them were paroled
within ten years.
934
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,033
I knew justice would prevail.
935
00:42:38,066 --> 00:42:40,300
And in Mac's case,
he-he didn't deserve
936
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:42,700
to have his life taken,
so I knew
937
00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:46,433
there was a brighter light
that was gonna shine for him,
938
00:42:46,467 --> 00:42:49,600
and there would be
some vindication for his family.
939
00:42:53,333 --> 00:42:56,433
I still read his love letters
and his cards,
940
00:42:56,467 --> 00:43:00,100
and I share them
with my friends and my family.
941
00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:04,133
I think of him every day.
942
00:43:06,567 --> 00:43:09,100
After the jury returne
its guilty verdict
943
00:43:09,133 --> 00:43:11,200
against Mike woods,
944
00:43:11,233 --> 00:43:14,200
I interviewed McKenna's son
outside of the courtroom.
945
00:43:14,233 --> 00:43:18,367
He was clearly emotional,
teary-eyed, and he told me,
946
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,600
"my dad can now rest,
I can now rest.
947
00:43:21,633 --> 00:43:24,000
It's finally over."
948
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:32,333
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