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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:52,776 --> 00:00:59,093 Everything that we know and have learned about mankind 2 00:00:59,128 --> 00:01:02,545 and its place in the universe suggests 3 00:01:02,579 --> 00:01:08,930 that we are a part of the norm. We are not the exception. 4 00:01:09,966 --> 00:01:14,902 Within the last month, a planet was identified that has water 5 00:01:14,936 --> 00:01:18,699 a mere 110 light years away from Earth. 6 00:01:18,733 --> 00:01:23,876 We need to begin to prepare to accept and understand 7 00:01:23,911 --> 00:01:26,569 that we are not alone in the universe, 8 00:01:26,603 --> 00:01:30,642 have not been at all throughout this time. 9 00:01:32,575 --> 00:01:34,956 The same year that life-giving water 10 00:01:34,991 --> 00:01:37,373 was discovered on a distant planet, 11 00:01:37,407 --> 00:01:40,307 the US Navy made a startling announcement. 12 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:45,484 Images captured by its pilots 13 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:51,663 of objects exhibiting a vastly superior technology were authentic. 14 00:01:55,874 --> 00:02:00,361 We can start to finally, at long last, after all these decades, 15 00:02:00,396 --> 00:02:02,812 begin to answer these questions 16 00:02:02,846 --> 00:02:06,643 about the origin of these vehicles, where they're from, 17 00:02:06,678 --> 00:02:10,406 how they're made, how they function and why they're here. 18 00:02:17,585 --> 00:02:21,486 People need to know there is something else out there. 19 00:02:24,351 --> 00:02:26,629 To fully understand, 20 00:02:26,663 --> 00:02:30,667 we must examine a body of evidence long suppressed. 21 00:02:30,702 --> 00:02:34,430 A parallel history to the one we think we know, 22 00:02:34,464 --> 00:02:37,778 stretching back at least 70 years. 23 00:02:44,716 --> 00:02:47,615 On a clear, sunny day in 1955, 24 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:51,447 William Coleman, a decorated World War II pilot, 25 00:02:51,481 --> 00:02:56,452 took off from Miami on a routine flight to deliver a B-25 bomber 26 00:02:56,486 --> 00:02:59,386 to an airbase in Mississippi. 27 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:02,561 My co-pilot said, "Look at that bright spot up there." 28 00:03:02,596 --> 00:03:06,013 I think it's just a reflection of the sun, 29 00:03:06,047 --> 00:03:07,842 a craze probably, in the windshield. 30 00:03:10,259 --> 00:03:13,469 He and his passengers, two aviation engineers, 31 00:03:13,503 --> 00:03:16,161 realized it was a strange object 32 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:20,717 making a rapid descent right across their flight path. 33 00:03:20,752 --> 00:03:23,133 My God, look at that thing. 34 00:03:23,168 --> 00:03:25,619 And I opened it up to max continuous power, 35 00:03:25,653 --> 00:03:29,036 we're clipping right along at over 300 miles an hour, 36 00:03:29,070 --> 00:03:30,796 right on the treetops... 37 00:03:31,901 --> 00:03:34,144 I'm right on the tail of this thing. 38 00:03:35,284 --> 00:03:38,252 But as we got close, I said, "It doesn't have a tail. 39 00:03:38,287 --> 00:03:40,116 Doesn't have any wings." 40 00:03:42,498 --> 00:03:46,191 Look at the shadow on the ground. The shadow was perfectly round. 41 00:03:47,744 --> 00:03:49,712 That's not an airplane. 42 00:03:51,852 --> 00:03:55,165 And I said, "I'm overtaking it."So I said, "Hang on." 43 00:03:56,305 --> 00:03:58,548 So I make a hard turn. 44 00:03:58,583 --> 00:04:04,485 There it was, a disc going across the field with two big swirls. 45 00:04:06,384 --> 00:04:10,767 What I didn't see was any exhaust, propulsion. 46 00:04:10,802 --> 00:04:17,464 No rivet lines, a rounded edge about that size where it all came together. 47 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:20,639 A true flying saucer. 48 00:04:23,504 --> 00:04:25,748 Then it seemed to vanish, 49 00:04:25,782 --> 00:04:29,510 until they spotted it thousands of feet above them. 50 00:04:29,545 --> 00:04:32,927 Bright yellow, sun-ish looking object. 51 00:04:34,481 --> 00:04:36,586 It went like a bat out of hell. 52 00:04:45,077 --> 00:04:49,150 After they landed, the stunned witnesses were separately debriefed 53 00:04:49,185 --> 00:04:54,915 by Project Blue Book, the Air Force investigation of the UFO phenomena. 54 00:04:56,537 --> 00:04:59,333 Ironically, a little over a decade later, 55 00:04:59,368 --> 00:05:05,305 Col. William T. Coleman became public spokesman for Project Blue Book. 56 00:05:09,723 --> 00:05:13,796 Probably what we saw may have been from somewhere else. 57 00:05:20,043 --> 00:05:22,805 Look, the Air Forces are very deadly, 58 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:27,775 being when it comes to intercepting an unknown. 59 00:05:29,225 --> 00:05:31,641 If it proves hostile, 60 00:05:32,262 --> 00:05:34,920 we're gonna shoot it down. 61 00:05:34,955 --> 00:05:37,820 Other than that, no problem. 62 00:05:42,549 --> 00:05:43,964 In the late 1940s, 63 00:05:43,998 --> 00:05:47,968 America seemed impregnable to military threat. 64 00:05:48,002 --> 00:05:52,317 It had just emerged from World War II masters of the air, 65 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:56,528 the only nuclear-armed superpower in the world. 66 00:05:56,563 --> 00:06:01,947 But in 1947, something appeared in the sky, 67 00:06:01,982 --> 00:06:04,881 and everything changed. 68 00:06:04,916 --> 00:06:07,401 Every newscaster and every newspaper across the nation 69 00:06:07,436 --> 00:06:08,782 has made headlines out of it. 70 00:06:08,816 --> 00:06:10,956 And this afternoon we are honored indeed 71 00:06:10,991 --> 00:06:13,683 to have here in our studio this man Kenneth Arnold, 72 00:06:13,718 --> 00:06:16,548 who we believe may be able to give us a firsthand account, 73 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:19,171 and give you the same, on what happened. 74 00:06:19,206 --> 00:06:22,589 I kept looking for their tails. They didn't have any tail. 75 00:06:22,623 --> 00:06:25,937 I thought, "Well, maybe something's wrong in my eyes." 76 00:06:25,971 --> 00:06:30,804 They seemed to flip and flash in the sun, just like a mirror. 77 00:06:30,838 --> 00:06:35,222 I'd be glad to confirm it with my hands on a Bible because I did see it, 78 00:06:35,256 --> 00:06:38,018 and whether it has anything to do with our army or our intelligence, 79 00:06:38,052 --> 00:06:42,125 or whether it has to do with some foreign country, I don't know. 80 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,165 Arnold had sent this sketch to the Air Force following his citing. 81 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:51,825 He was later invited to California's Hamilton Field Army Air Base, 82 00:06:51,859 --> 00:06:54,448 where he was handed what he was told 83 00:06:54,483 --> 00:06:57,624 were authentic photos of a similar craft. 84 00:06:57,658 --> 00:07:00,454 "At the request of Lt. Col. Donald Springer, 85 00:07:00,489 --> 00:07:03,457 commanding officer of the Fourth Air Force Intelligence, 86 00:07:03,492 --> 00:07:05,735 I was given the above prints a4s a courtesy 87 00:07:05,770 --> 00:07:08,635 for the assistance he had given military intelligence." 88 00:07:09,636 --> 00:07:12,224 The photo was taken in Arizona 89 00:07:12,259 --> 00:07:15,538 just two weeks after his own encounter. 90 00:07:19,922 --> 00:07:22,994 They said that my father, his sighting of flying saucers, 91 00:07:23,028 --> 00:07:26,307 got more attentionthan the ending of World War II. 92 00:07:26,342 --> 00:07:31,692 He was besieged by newspaper reporters from all over the world. 93 00:07:31,727 --> 00:07:32,727 Mm-hm. 94 00:07:34,971 --> 00:07:39,148 Reporters interviewed United Airlines pilot E.J. Smith 95 00:07:39,182 --> 00:07:41,875 who also flew the northwest route. 96 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:46,466 He joked Arnold had likely been fooled by a cockpit reflection, 97 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:51,540 until he, too, became a witness a few weeks later. 98 00:07:51,574 --> 00:07:53,921 He and his stunned crew had watched 99 00:07:53,956 --> 00:08:00,272 as nine discs maneuvered in formation for a full 45minutes. 100 00:08:00,307 --> 00:08:02,136 And from there it just exploded. 101 00:08:02,171 --> 00:08:05,450 The first few days in July of 1947 102 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:09,730 had a very large level of exciting activity. 103 00:08:09,765 --> 00:08:13,596 These unknown objects barnstormed across the country, 104 00:08:13,631 --> 00:08:15,909 sometimes in fleet-like formations 105 00:08:15,943 --> 00:08:19,671 that looked like a deliberate show of force. 106 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:23,503 Hundreds of people told Air Force investigators 107 00:08:23,537 --> 00:08:25,366 they'd seen the saucers with their own eyes. 108 00:08:25,401 --> 00:08:30,130 Bright, shiny things that whooshed through the air at incredible speeds. 109 00:08:30,164 --> 00:08:34,514 Even airline pilots, who seldom indulge in fantasy, reported sighting them. 110 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:36,723 And Air Force fliers told of chasing them, 111 00:08:36,757 --> 00:08:39,139 or something, all over the sky. 112 00:08:39,173 --> 00:08:42,522 The Air Force call them "unidentified flying objects," 113 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:46,353 but people went right on calling them saucers and seeing them. 114 00:08:46,387 --> 00:08:48,804 There was something in the air. 115 00:09:23,873 --> 00:09:27,636 But a then-secret memorandum by the same general 116 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:30,811 suggested that the highest military echelons 117 00:09:30,846 --> 00:09:33,745 thought there was plenty to worry about. 118 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,476 The memo states, "The phenomenon reported is something real 119 00:09:40,510 --> 00:09:44,066 and not visionary or fictitious." 120 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:49,968 It described metallic discs circular in shape, with domes on top, 121 00:09:50,003 --> 00:09:53,938 often traveling in formations of three to nine craft. 122 00:09:53,972 --> 00:09:57,044 It also listed aerodynamic capabilities 123 00:09:57,079 --> 00:10:01,048 with disturbing implications for national defense. 124 00:10:01,083 --> 00:10:05,121 Extreme rates of climb, dazzling maneuverability, 125 00:10:05,156 --> 00:10:09,643 and a superior capacity for evasive action. 126 00:10:09,678 --> 00:10:11,959 A lot of people expected that the United States government 127 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:14,337 was about to confirm, "Okay, they're ours. 128 00:10:14,372 --> 00:10:18,721 This is an exciting new technological advance that we were testing, 129 00:10:18,756 --> 00:10:20,896 and now it's time to tell people about it." 130 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:23,415 Occasionally, eyewitness testimony included 131 00:10:23,450 --> 00:10:26,556 compelling photographic evidence. 132 00:10:29,318 --> 00:10:33,287 Evelyn Trent was feeding her rabbits when she spotted 133 00:10:33,322 --> 00:10:37,878 a metallic disc-shaped object floating over their farm. 134 00:10:39,224 --> 00:10:42,711 She alerted her husband, Paul, to grab his camera, 135 00:10:42,745 --> 00:10:45,127 and he managed to get two shots. 136 00:10:56,345 --> 00:11:02,731 They described the object slowly hovering before it abruptly sped away. 137 00:11:02,765 --> 00:11:05,009 Life magazine picked up the story, 138 00:11:05,043 --> 00:11:09,220 and the McMinnville UFO became a global sensation. 139 00:11:09,254 --> 00:11:11,163 There's no chance of this being weather. 140 00:11:11,187 --> 00:11:13,742 There's no chance of this being a star or an aircraft. 141 00:11:13,776 --> 00:11:17,642 This is either some kind of structured object that we don't know what it is, 142 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:19,230 or it's a hoax. 143 00:11:19,264 --> 00:11:23,821 Paul Trent and his wife, they were honest, simple, hardworking people 144 00:11:23,855 --> 00:11:26,444 who never made a dime off the photographs that they took. 145 00:11:26,478 --> 00:11:28,515 They never tried to make a dime off of it. 146 00:11:28,549 --> 00:11:33,554 It just come up like that and tipped and just... 147 00:11:33,589 --> 00:11:39,077 I mean, it really went. It went fast. 148 00:11:39,112 --> 00:11:45,635 I've never seen anything go so fast in my life as that thing went. Yeah. 149 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:51,365 In 1951, future astronaut Gordon Cooper, while training in Germany, 150 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,370 chased a large formation with his squadron of fighter jets. 151 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:27,781 And they would come over and do the same maneuvers that we make 152 00:12:27,816 --> 00:12:30,646 except every once in a while one of them goes, zip! 153 00:12:31,681 --> 00:12:33,753 And you just can't do that in a fighter. 154 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:45,281 There are two saucers, one inverted over the other. 155 00:12:45,316 --> 00:12:48,802 They seemed to be made of some kind of polished metal. 156 00:12:48,837 --> 00:12:53,117 When I first saw the objects, they were almost overhead. 157 00:12:53,151 --> 00:12:54,946 By the time we had the camera ready to go, 158 00:12:54,981 --> 00:12:57,673 they had moved to a considerably greater distance. 159 00:12:59,502 --> 00:13:03,196 But the unknowns showed no signs of hostility. 160 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:07,717 An otherworldly power on its own mysterious mission. 161 00:13:19,453 --> 00:13:23,354 Commercial pilots William Nash and William Fortenberry, 162 00:13:23,388 --> 00:13:28,324 former Navy aviators with thousands of hours of flight experience, 163 00:13:28,359 --> 00:13:32,604 saw eight huge discs fly in a stack formation 164 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:34,986 over Chesapeake Bay, Virginia, 165 00:13:35,021 --> 00:13:39,163 just a stone's throw from Washington, DC. 166 00:13:39,197 --> 00:13:42,028 When they came out over the blackness of the bay, 167 00:13:42,062 --> 00:13:45,341 they were distinct six red coins. 168 00:13:45,376 --> 00:13:48,689 When they got closer, we could see that you're... 169 00:13:48,724 --> 00:13:53,384 It looked like you were looking down into it, like a hot coal. 170 00:13:53,418 --> 00:13:57,284 They reported the glowing red objects had approached them head-on 171 00:13:57,319 --> 00:14:03,359 at a speed they estimated at 6,000 to 12,000 miles per hour. 172 00:14:03,394 --> 00:14:06,742 It came in like this and went out like this. 173 00:14:06,776 --> 00:14:12,852 There would be no way of making a complete reversal or a 90-degree turn 174 00:14:12,886 --> 00:14:15,716 12,000 miles an hour or greater 175 00:14:15,751 --> 00:14:19,410 without making the occupants juice on the wall. 176 00:14:19,444 --> 00:14:23,310 That really shook us up. Looking at the thing shook us up. 177 00:14:23,345 --> 00:14:27,832 Nothing could have gotten to that degree 178 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:31,146 of scientific progress 179 00:14:31,180 --> 00:14:35,046 without some of the intermediate stuff having become public knowledge. 180 00:14:35,081 --> 00:14:39,326 You just knew that they were not from this planet. 181 00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:47,093 The next weekend, the unthinkable happened. 182 00:14:47,127 --> 00:14:51,787 The nation's capital was invaded from the skies. 183 00:14:51,821 --> 00:14:57,931 Seven unknown blips suddenly appeared on radar at Washington National Airport. 184 00:14:57,966 --> 00:15:02,487 Air-traffic controllers at both Andrews and Bolling Air Force bases 185 00:15:02,522 --> 00:15:07,216 confirmed the objects as they danced through restricted airspace. 186 00:15:11,876 --> 00:15:13,084 The Capitol Building. 187 00:15:13,119 --> 00:15:15,017 The White House where the president lived, 188 00:15:15,052 --> 00:15:18,296 these were some of the most important places in the country 189 00:15:18,331 --> 00:15:20,816 when it comes to national defense. 190 00:15:20,850 --> 00:15:23,025 And there were UFOs violating this airspace, 191 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:26,408 and there was nothing thatthe Air Force could do about it. 192 00:15:26,442 --> 00:15:30,930 F-94 interceptors were scrambled. 193 00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:35,935 Pentagon press liaison Al Chop was in the radar room that night. 194 00:15:35,969 --> 00:15:39,248 We could see the planes coming in on this radar scope 195 00:15:39,283 --> 00:15:43,218 and the minute we saw the beginning of these guys, 196 00:15:43,252 --> 00:15:46,290 the UFOs disappeared. They just left. 197 00:15:46,324 --> 00:15:50,501 Obviously, whatever these things were had intelligence, 198 00:15:50,535 --> 00:15:54,608 enough to get out of the area when we had an intercept going in. 199 00:15:56,300 --> 00:16:00,476 But the next weekend, it began again. 200 00:16:00,511 --> 00:16:05,274 Pilot William Patterson pushed his Starfire jet to maximum speed 201 00:16:05,309 --> 00:16:08,519 to try to intercept one of the glowing objects. 202 00:16:10,314 --> 00:16:13,420 Flew right into the middle of three or four of them. 203 00:16:13,455 --> 00:16:17,700 Al Chop recalls the pilot's panicky air-to-ground transmission 204 00:16:17,735 --> 00:16:24,052 as he streaked at 600 miles per hour into a group of unknowns. 205 00:16:24,086 --> 00:16:31,059 He actually said, "They're closing in on me. What do I do?" 206 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:35,891 It was frightening. 207 00:16:35,925 --> 00:16:40,965 The Air Force had just issued orders to shoot down the unknowns, 208 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,694 if "they can't talk them down." 209 00:16:45,728 --> 00:16:51,182 I'm not gonna tell an Air Force pilot to fire at the damn thing or anything. 210 00:16:51,217 --> 00:16:54,151 But I didn't say anything. Nobody said anything. 211 00:16:55,566 --> 00:16:59,466 And then all of a sudden, the things began to move away from him 212 00:16:59,501 --> 00:17:01,158 and he said, "They're gone." 213 00:17:03,263 --> 00:17:05,093 I'm convinced they're solid objects. 214 00:17:05,127 --> 00:17:09,166 I'm convinced that they're probably from another planet, 215 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,340 or from outer space somewhere. 216 00:17:11,375 --> 00:17:14,412 I've always felt that way since that night. 217 00:17:16,587 --> 00:17:19,659 The very next day, the Air Force's top brass 218 00:17:19,693 --> 00:17:25,044 hastily prepared the largest Pentagon press conference since World War II. 219 00:17:26,942 --> 00:17:31,360 Seen here in a last-minute huddle, Gen. Roger Ramey, 220 00:17:31,395 --> 00:17:34,708 Air Force director of operations at the Pentagon. 221 00:17:36,193 --> 00:17:39,299 Capt. Edward Ruppelt of Project Blue Book, 222 00:17:39,334 --> 00:17:42,923 the Air Force's official UFO investigations arm, 223 00:17:42,958 --> 00:17:47,825 and director of Air Force intelligence, Gen. John Samford. 224 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:54,590 Since 1947, we have received and analyzed between one and 2,000 reports 225 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:58,318 that have come to us from all kinds of sources. 226 00:17:58,353 --> 00:18:01,528 Of this great mass of reports, we have been able, 227 00:18:01,563 --> 00:18:05,084 adequately, to explain the great bulk of them. 228 00:18:05,118 --> 00:18:10,399 However, there have been a certain percentage of this volume of reports 229 00:18:10,434 --> 00:18:17,268 that have been made by credible observersof relatively incredible things. 230 00:18:17,303 --> 00:18:21,790 We can say that the recent sightings are in no way connected 231 00:18:21,824 --> 00:18:27,451 with any secret development by any department of the United States. 232 00:18:27,485 --> 00:18:32,525 In the Q&A with reporters, Samford suggested a 50-50 chance 233 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:37,495 it could have been radar waves bouncing off temperature inversions. 234 00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:42,362 The point that Samford put across all too effectively 235 00:18:42,397 --> 00:18:49,369 was that they were not real. They were just tricks of the atmosphere. 236 00:18:49,404 --> 00:18:53,718 And atmospheric phenomena can't be a threat to national security. 237 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,205 You don't shoot at clouds. 238 00:19:00,449 --> 00:19:02,489 The public was pondering the implications 239 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,696 of possible extraterrestrial contact. 240 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:10,597 Robert L. Farnsworth, President of the United States Rocket Society, 241 00:19:10,632 --> 00:19:16,016 told defense officials not to permit our planes to fire at any flying saucers. 242 00:19:16,051 --> 00:19:21,367 He says this might alienate humankind from beings of far superior forces. 243 00:19:21,401 --> 00:19:25,164 Farnsworth feels that friendly contact should be sought 244 00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:26,682 as long as possible. 245 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:33,655 Behind the scenes, the CIA had other concerns. 246 00:19:34,863 --> 00:19:38,556 A secret internal memo urged immediate attention 247 00:19:38,591 --> 00:19:41,525 to unexplained objects in the vicinity 248 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:45,184 of major US Defense installations. 249 00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:48,048 I would dare say, if anything happened 250 00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:51,397 we thought was a threat to our national security, 251 00:19:51,431 --> 00:19:56,402 somebody out there, one of the services, would respond to it. 252 00:20:04,651 --> 00:20:07,861 Remember, this is the height of the Cold War. 253 00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:12,763 Okay, there are bombers on both sides loaded with nuclear bombs. 254 00:20:12,797 --> 00:20:17,457 Dr. Jacque Vallee was the inspiration for the French UFO researcher 255 00:20:17,492 --> 00:20:22,497 in Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind. 256 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:26,570 Have you recently had a close encounter? 257 00:20:26,604 --> 00:20:28,641 In real life, Dr. Vallee conducted 258 00:20:28,675 --> 00:20:31,437 sober scientific research on the phenomenon. 259 00:20:31,471 --> 00:20:34,543 We know now that there is no simple answer. 260 00:20:34,578 --> 00:20:37,097 For decades, he met with witnesses 261 00:20:37,132 --> 00:20:39,790 and traveled the globe gathering evidence... 262 00:20:39,824 --> 00:20:45,140 ultimately creating the first database on the UFO subject. 263 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:48,074 Mr. Chairman, 264 00:20:48,108 --> 00:20:51,560 all the great nations of the world are represented on this committee. 265 00:20:51,595 --> 00:20:55,184 Let us keep in mind thatthe UFO phenomenon may represent 266 00:20:55,219 --> 00:20:57,256 an even greater reality. 267 00:20:57,290 --> 00:21:02,778 Vallee also consulted with scientific, military and government officials, 268 00:21:02,813 --> 00:21:08,715 including Project Blue Book's top science adviser, Dr. J. Allen Hynek. 269 00:21:11,062 --> 00:21:16,585 I began my work as scientific consultant to the United States Air Force 270 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:18,863 as an open skeptic. 271 00:21:18,898 --> 00:21:22,660 Hynek was a university astronomer with a high-security clearance 272 00:21:22,695 --> 00:21:27,838 when the Air Force recruited him to investigate UFOs. 273 00:21:27,872 --> 00:21:30,806 And it so happened when the Air Force got the job of trying to figure out 274 00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:33,982 what some of these strange flying saucer stories were about, 275 00:21:34,016 --> 00:21:37,123 well, they needed an astronomer to see how many of the reports 276 00:21:37,157 --> 00:21:41,438 could possibly be explained as meteors and twinkling stars and planets. 277 00:21:41,472 --> 00:21:44,579 The two scientists became close colleagues, 278 00:21:44,613 --> 00:21:49,722 with Hynek entrusting Vallee to index the reams of Blue Book files 279 00:21:49,756 --> 00:21:52,380 scattered throughout Hynek's home. 280 00:21:52,414 --> 00:21:58,075 It was there that Vallee made a chance discovery of a letter so secret, 281 00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,491 he had to appeal to the chief counsel 282 00:22:00,526 --> 00:22:03,356 of the Senate Defense Appropriations Committee 283 00:22:03,391 --> 00:22:05,531 to get it declassified. 284 00:22:05,565 --> 00:22:08,637 That document changed my life. It taught me that 285 00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:14,333 the subject had been taken much more seriously than anybody thought. 286 00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:17,266 The document revealed an ultra-secret, 287 00:22:17,301 --> 00:22:20,304 highly funded scientific investigation 288 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:23,031 working parallel to Blue Book 289 00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:26,655 unknown to all but a select few. 290 00:22:29,209 --> 00:22:32,178 The letter was signed by H.C. Cross, 291 00:22:32,212 --> 00:22:37,494 director of exotic metallurgy at Battelle National Laboratories. 292 00:22:37,528 --> 00:22:40,980 These were the people who had analyzed the facts 293 00:22:41,014 --> 00:22:46,365 with a large budget, with highly competent physicistsand computer scientists. 294 00:22:51,749 --> 00:22:56,547 Who are these people? What information did they have? 295 00:22:56,582 --> 00:22:59,378 Good evening. Tonight, we go after a fantastic story. 296 00:22:59,412 --> 00:23:04,210 The story that flying saucers from other worlds are visiting our planet, 297 00:23:04,244 --> 00:23:08,801 just as we are exploring outer space with our own rocket satellites. 298 00:23:08,835 --> 00:23:12,529 Our guest is former Marine Air Corps Maj. Donald Keyhoe, 299 00:23:12,563 --> 00:23:16,395 in his campaign to prove that flying saucers exist. 300 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:20,537 My name is Mike Wallace. The cigarette is Parliament. 301 00:23:20,571 --> 00:23:24,368 Why would the United States government withhold information 302 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,266 from United States citizens? For what reason? 303 00:23:26,301 --> 00:23:29,442 The Air Force is simply treating the American people like children. 304 00:23:29,477 --> 00:23:31,410 They don't trust them with the facts. 305 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:40,177 During the '50s and '60s, it wasn't just the Americans 306 00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:42,213 who were seeing flying saucers. 307 00:23:42,248 --> 00:23:44,526 At the Westall School in Australia, 308 00:23:44,561 --> 00:23:49,945 several hundred students saw an object hovering over this power line tower 309 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:51,809 on their athletic field. 310 00:23:51,844 --> 00:23:55,917 An event they vividly recall 50 years later. 311 00:23:55,951 --> 00:23:58,022 A student came into the classroom, you know. 312 00:23:58,057 --> 00:24:01,198 "There's flying saucers in the oval, there's flying saucers," 313 00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:03,303 and everybody ran out. 314 00:24:03,338 --> 00:24:06,859 And I remember the fear and the hysteria of all the students. 315 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:11,346 I couldn't believe it because what I was seeing wasn't possible. 316 00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:16,351 It was vertical, horizontal. It'd move away from us, back towards us. 317 00:24:16,385 --> 00:24:18,733 Appear somewhere else, somewhere else. 318 00:24:18,767 --> 00:24:22,840 My God, you know? But it was exciting. 319 00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:26,672 It was like that and then all of a sudden, it just turned on its side 320 00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:30,503 and I could see that it was a round disc. 321 00:24:30,538 --> 00:24:34,887 The children saw the disc begin to descend into this wooded reserve 322 00:24:34,921 --> 00:24:37,821 at the end of the school's running path. 323 00:24:37,855 --> 00:24:40,858 I ran towards the corner of the school, jumped the fence 324 00:24:40,893 --> 00:24:44,413 and ran towards where it looked as though it went down into the trees, 325 00:24:44,448 --> 00:24:48,487 and then stopped dead because it was right in front of me on the ground. 326 00:24:49,660 --> 00:24:52,732 Like a disc with a slight rise in the middle. 327 00:24:52,767 --> 00:24:55,701 I also heard a low, sort of a humming noise, 328 00:24:55,735 --> 00:24:58,427 and I felt a bit of a heat coming off it as well. 329 00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:07,747 And it started to take off pretty well straight away. 330 00:25:07,782 --> 00:25:11,130 It had all bluey-purple lights around the bottom. 331 00:25:11,164 --> 00:25:12,959 Don't remember seeing any windows, 332 00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:15,928 and it took off to about probably four or five meters in the air, 333 00:25:15,962 --> 00:25:21,278 and then turned on its side, and just went... Straight up so fast, 334 00:25:21,312 --> 00:25:25,834 that there's just nothing, even nowadays, that could go that fast. 335 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,907 Shortly after the object departed, 336 00:25:29,942 --> 00:25:33,048 the authorities converged on the school. 337 00:25:33,083 --> 00:25:38,675 We had Army, Air Force, policedown here cordoning off the area 338 00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:42,679 to prevent any of us enteringthe area or disturbing anything. 339 00:25:42,713 --> 00:25:45,509 We got called to assembly. The headmaster said, 340 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:49,030 "You have not seen this. You do not talk about it. 341 00:25:49,064 --> 00:25:50,583 You'll be in trouble if you do." 342 00:25:51,757 --> 00:25:53,552 For the first time ever, 343 00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:58,867 the school science teacher agreed to describe what he saw that day, 344 00:25:58,902 --> 00:26:01,870 providing we concealed his identity. 345 00:26:01,905 --> 00:26:05,702 It was not a mirage. There was something physical in the sky. 346 00:26:05,736 --> 00:26:09,119 It was silver. It could hover. 347 00:26:09,153 --> 00:26:12,225 It could move slowly. It could move very rapidly. 348 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:16,402 Eventually it moved away to the other side of the oval, 349 00:26:16,436 --> 00:26:18,473 and down behind some pine trees. 350 00:26:18,507 --> 00:26:21,683 I was not then, nor ever have been, 351 00:26:21,718 --> 00:26:24,962 able to use my knowledge of the world, 352 00:26:24,997 --> 00:26:29,933 nor my scientific training, to provide a rational explanation. 353 00:26:29,967 --> 00:26:34,040 What he said next sheds light on why the school staff 354 00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:36,767 have remained silent all these years. 355 00:26:36,802 --> 00:26:39,287 There was a knock on the door one night. 356 00:26:39,321 --> 00:26:42,048 Two older men, one in uniform, 357 00:26:42,083 --> 00:26:44,775 asked for my description of what I had seen. 358 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:48,020 I was then told that I hadn't seen anything, 359 00:26:48,054 --> 00:26:51,540 that I'd made it all up, possibly because I was drunk 360 00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:55,130 and that they would have to report that fact to the Education Department 361 00:26:55,165 --> 00:26:59,203 and I would lose my job. After that, I was told 362 00:26:59,238 --> 00:27:02,931 that I would be prosecuted underthe Official Secrets Act, 363 00:27:02,966 --> 00:27:08,350 and I was told that there wasn'tanything there, when I knew there was, 364 00:27:08,385 --> 00:27:11,112 and that I had to keep quiet about it. 365 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:16,704 Why did I have to keep quiet? 366 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:22,330 The Westall landing may not have been an isolated incident. 367 00:27:22,364 --> 00:27:27,093 Four days prior, a then-young engineer in nearby Balwyn 368 00:27:27,128 --> 00:27:31,546 was taking photos in his mother's garden when something caught his eye. 369 00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:37,310 This tremendous flash of light, and I looked up, and I saw this object... 370 00:27:37,345 --> 00:27:41,142 I had a Polaroid camera. I pulled this up and hit myself on the face. 371 00:27:41,176 --> 00:27:45,111 And I took the picture. I've got the photograph here. 372 00:27:45,146 --> 00:27:46,906 This is the original Polaroid? 373 00:27:46,941 --> 00:27:48,943 That's it. 374 00:27:56,985 --> 00:27:59,678 Looked like it was made out of some form of metal, 375 00:27:59,712 --> 00:28:00,920 and it was engineered. 376 00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:04,821 And being an engineer, I was sure it was. 377 00:28:06,132 --> 00:28:07,824 And this is when I took the photograph, 378 00:28:07,858 --> 00:28:10,067 and it had tipped around and I could see the bottom, 379 00:28:10,102 --> 00:28:12,173 and it looked like it was rotating to me. 380 00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:17,626 That was it, and then after that, it sort of gave a bounce 381 00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:21,078 and it rocketed away to the north, very high speed. 382 00:28:21,113 --> 00:28:23,425 Can you describe the acceleration? 383 00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:27,119 It was almost instantaneous. It's like it had been shot out of a gun. 384 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:30,329 Wham, you know? 385 00:28:30,363 --> 00:28:33,504 Air Force officers showed up at his doorstep 386 00:28:33,539 --> 00:28:36,611 asking for every detail of his experience. 387 00:28:36,645 --> 00:28:41,616 And they also had some photographs of similar things, 388 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:47,139 and they also had a book which had pictures of things in which... 389 00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:50,245 They didn't leave it with me, but I had a look through. 390 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:56,113 But they said it was an unidentified flying object. 391 00:28:57,218 --> 00:28:58,944 That was it. 392 00:28:58,978 --> 00:29:01,015 What was the implication? 393 00:29:01,049 --> 00:29:04,259 That it didn't come from anywhere on Earth. 394 00:29:07,676 --> 00:29:12,820 Project Blue Book, with a skeletal staff, continued publicly collecting 395 00:29:12,854 --> 00:29:14,718 thousands of cases. 396 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,583 Despite efforts to explain them away, 397 00:29:17,617 --> 00:29:21,242 hundreds were still filed as unknown. 398 00:29:21,276 --> 00:29:26,454 Several reports of a strange egg-shaped object about 200 feet long 399 00:29:26,488 --> 00:29:31,977 landing on farms and highways last night in the vicinity of Levelland. 400 00:29:32,011 --> 00:29:35,635 Sheriff Clem says he even himself got a glimpse of the thing, 401 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:40,123 which somehow turned off lights and auto engines when it came near. 402 00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:52,721 Within 24 to 36 hours after these sightings in Levelland, Texas 403 00:29:52,756 --> 00:29:56,760 at the White Sands Proving Ground, very close to the Trinity test site 404 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,280 where they first detonated the first atomic bomb, 405 00:29:59,314 --> 00:30:03,767 military personnel witnessed a glowing egg-shaped object 406 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,320 that apparently landed. 407 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,496 This is Bill Haggert, 408 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:14,088 Public Information Officer of White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico. 409 00:30:14,122 --> 00:30:17,988 What they saw looked like a landing and takeoff 410 00:30:18,023 --> 00:30:21,371 of some controlled object from outer space. 411 00:31:22,156 --> 00:31:25,780 They appeared to be dressed in white coveralls. 412 00:31:25,814 --> 00:31:29,266 And were childlike. That is, small. 413 00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:36,687 Zamora added that one of the two persons turned his head 414 00:31:36,722 --> 00:31:38,517 and looked straight at him. 415 00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:47,422 When I got out of the car, about 50 feet from it... 416 00:31:49,666 --> 00:31:54,119 I guess they saw me because they started their motor or whatever it is. 417 00:31:54,153 --> 00:31:57,881 I could see a big blast of fire coming from right under it. 418 00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:03,473 So, I was behind some bushes there, behind my car. 419 00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:05,889 I could see it and I could feel that heat. 420 00:32:07,718 --> 00:32:10,721 That really got me scared, you know? 421 00:32:10,756 --> 00:32:14,035 A lot of people say, "Why didn't you take your gun out and shoot at it?" 422 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,900 They weren't doing nothing to me. 423 00:32:18,074 --> 00:32:21,353 It just took a little while to get airborne, 424 00:32:21,387 --> 00:32:25,944 came up a little bit, about 20-30 feet, and it stayed there a while. 425 00:32:31,294 --> 00:32:34,124 And it was just as quiet as it could be. 426 00:32:36,678 --> 00:32:39,958 And then just flew away, that's it. 427 00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:51,141 Lonnie was very, very scared. He was as white as a sheet. 428 00:32:51,176 --> 00:32:55,559 From here, went directly to the church to talk to the priest, okay? 429 00:32:55,594 --> 00:33:00,426 Pablo Lopez was among the first to arrive at the landing and takeoff site. 430 00:33:00,461 --> 00:33:03,567 The ground was still smoldering in some of the weeds that were around it. 431 00:33:03,602 --> 00:33:07,088 This rare footage gives us a glimpse of the scene 432 00:33:07,123 --> 00:33:09,815 shortly after the incident. 433 00:33:09,849 --> 00:33:13,957 Patrolman Zamora stoops to point out one of the landing gear imprints 434 00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:20,136 where officers had just placed rocks to protect the fresh ground traces. 435 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:24,416 And then there was two sets of footprints, two sets of footprints. 436 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,832 Like so. 437 00:33:26,866 --> 00:33:29,317 That was about the approximate size of 'em. 438 00:33:29,352 --> 00:33:32,665 In comparison to a quarter, that's pretty small. 439 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,358 Okay. That's about the size of 'em. 440 00:33:37,049 --> 00:33:40,052 Within an hour and over the next several days, 441 00:33:40,087 --> 00:33:44,125 officials from the FBI, military, and Project Blue Book 442 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,266 documented the evidence at the scene. 443 00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:56,827 Were there any prong marks on the ground or anything like that 444 00:33:56,862 --> 00:34:00,417 - where you could see where it had landed? - There were four. 445 00:34:01,694 --> 00:34:04,076 Very unusual footprints. And how many were there? 446 00:34:04,111 --> 00:34:07,183 Two footprints on one side and two footprints on the other side. 447 00:34:12,981 --> 00:34:16,916 - Of course, the burn area there... - I was in my car. 448 00:34:16,951 --> 00:34:18,918 I could see it and I could feel that heat. 449 00:34:21,645 --> 00:34:24,683 They told me that all over the state they had been seen. 450 00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:27,755 Some of those flying saucers, whatever you call 'em. 451 00:34:27,789 --> 00:34:30,965 They gave me a book on it, you know? 452 00:34:30,999 --> 00:34:33,140 They told me to go ahead and read it. 453 00:34:33,174 --> 00:34:36,212 Well, it says not to say nothing. 454 00:34:36,246 --> 00:34:39,456 Keep away from it. Don't say too much, you know. 455 00:34:39,491 --> 00:34:43,840 It was the middle of the night by the time Lonnie came home. 456 00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:46,705 I mean, he was really pale. 457 00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:50,329 And I thought he was sick. I said, "Are you sick or something?" 458 00:34:50,364 --> 00:34:53,505 He said, "No. I was just working." He was like... 459 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,990 Like he was angry. 460 00:34:57,716 --> 00:35:02,721 What I knew about it was when I started reading the papers, you know. 461 00:35:02,755 --> 00:35:07,105 Started coming out, and everything. I said, "What's this?" 462 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:11,316 "I don't know," he said. "It's just a headache" 463 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:16,217 He said "Everybody's after me and some believe me and some don't." 464 00:35:17,598 --> 00:35:19,634 - Dear Mr. Zamora. - Dear Mr. Zamora. 465 00:35:19,669 --> 00:35:22,499 - Dear Mr. Zamora. - Dear Mr. Zamora. 466 00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:27,194 Sure, I believe you saw an egg-shaped spacecraft 467 00:35:27,228 --> 00:35:29,713 that had passengers from off this earth. 468 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,417 I could go on for a week telling you what I've seen. 469 00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:37,618 A boy in our school science fair had three pictures 470 00:35:37,652 --> 00:35:41,760 that looked just like the flying saucer you described. 471 00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:47,973 As I have pictures of a couple of egg-shaped shape ships taken... 472 00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,365 - I read about you seeing a flying saucer. - I'm a retired teacher. 473 00:35:50,389 --> 00:35:52,495 Well, you have a friend who believes you. 474 00:35:52,529 --> 00:35:55,498 This saucer phenomenon has changed my life and ideas. 475 00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:02,021 August 17, 1960, our Red Bluff officers 476 00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:04,231 and dozens of people saw a saucer. 477 00:36:04,265 --> 00:36:10,306 Can you tell me how long it stayed on Earth, and other things like that? 478 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:12,549 Then people started making fun of him 479 00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:16,001 that he had seen little men from outer space 480 00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:21,248 or this and that. A whole bunch of dirty stuff. 481 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:27,046 Lot of people asked me, "Is that the reason you quit the police force?" 482 00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:28,841 No, the reason I quit the police force 483 00:36:28,876 --> 00:36:32,190 was because I was going and doing a lot of publicity and stuff. 484 00:36:32,224 --> 00:36:34,640 I didn't wanna hurt the town. 485 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:42,924 The level of inquiry went all the way to the office of the President. 486 00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:48,689 To this day, the Socorro close encounter remains unexplained. 487 00:36:50,277 --> 00:36:52,348 Socorro was very similar 488 00:36:52,382 --> 00:36:57,698 to the French cases that I had brought to Hynek's attention. 489 00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:02,772 Checked by the police, checked by the French Air Force, 490 00:37:02,806 --> 00:37:06,224 where there were also occupants who were seen, 491 00:37:06,258 --> 00:37:10,711 short beings, in connection with the objects. 492 00:37:13,023 --> 00:37:15,233 I think that's what convinced him 493 00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:19,582 that there were UFO landings in the United States. 494 00:37:29,177 --> 00:37:33,458 Looked like a toy top somewhat upside down. 495 00:37:33,492 --> 00:37:36,978 So this is the diagram which we've come up with. 496 00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:39,567 It's more flat here other than round. 497 00:37:39,602 --> 00:37:41,742 But it does have the hump up in here. 498 00:37:41,776 --> 00:37:44,745 It seemed to move off the groundif it was down. 499 00:37:44,779 --> 00:37:48,162 And then we saw three lights that went from yellow to red. 500 00:37:48,196 --> 00:37:50,613 When you got right up to it, it lit up. 501 00:37:50,647 --> 00:37:53,201 I mean, it really did become bright, and we could see it, 502 00:37:53,236 --> 00:37:56,204 the outline of it, real good. 503 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,449 Blue Book's Dr. Allen Hynek investigated 504 00:37:59,484 --> 00:38:01,348 one of the alleged landing sites 505 00:38:01,382 --> 00:38:04,212 with the local sheriff. 506 00:38:04,247 --> 00:38:07,733 At an overflow press conference later that day, 507 00:38:07,768 --> 00:38:11,772 the world held its breath for an historic revelation 508 00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:14,499 about the landings in Michigan. 509 00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:19,469 Hynek, by now privately convinced of the UFO reality, 510 00:38:19,504 --> 00:38:22,369 struggled to follow the Air Force policy 511 00:38:22,403 --> 00:38:25,337 of tamping down public excitement. 512 00:38:31,757 --> 00:38:37,591 I'm saying that the two cases that I investigated most deeply were most likely. 513 00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:41,698 I said in a statement that I couldn't prove it in a court of law. 514 00:38:44,943 --> 00:38:46,324 No, that's not quite right. 515 00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:49,603 I think that a person can be pretty sure about something 516 00:38:49,637 --> 00:38:52,433 without being ableto convict somebody of a murder. 517 00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:58,266 - Can you? Please. - Yes, I do. Honestly, in this case. 518 00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:03,686 Hynek's strained explanation, 519 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,861 which he later called his greatest regret, 520 00:39:06,896 --> 00:39:09,381 ignited a public furor. 521 00:39:09,416 --> 00:39:11,521 Mr. Ford, what about flying saucers? 522 00:39:11,556 --> 00:39:14,248 You've had some in Michigan in the past week. 523 00:39:14,282 --> 00:39:20,703 Dave, we've had several incidents that many felt were sufficient 524 00:39:20,737 --> 00:39:24,085 to justify some action by our government, 525 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,849 and not the kind of flippant answer that was given by the Air Force 526 00:39:28,883 --> 00:39:33,336 where they passed it off as "swamp gas." 527 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:38,168 It seems to me that this mystery does require 528 00:39:38,203 --> 00:39:40,550 that the Congress take a good look at it. 529 00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:44,347 Let them put their record on the line. 530 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:50,595 On April 5th, 1966, congressional hearings were held with Dr. Hynek 531 00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:55,772 and Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown both giving testimony. 532 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:03,849 Mr. Ford has come out. He has a pretty good-size stature in the Congress. 533 00:40:03,884 --> 00:40:06,645 And so, Mr. Secretary, 534 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,755 see if you can shed some light on these highly illuminated objects. 535 00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:14,895 Mr. Secretary, there have been charges 536 00:40:14,929 --> 00:40:18,277 that the Air Force is hiding something in the UFO field. 537 00:40:18,312 --> 00:40:21,349 We have not been hiding anything. 538 00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,560 The investigations have been made public. 539 00:40:24,594 --> 00:40:27,563 The hearing this morningwas public for just that reason. 540 00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:29,772 There has never been any evidence 541 00:40:29,806 --> 00:40:32,637 presented to the United States Air Force, 542 00:40:32,671 --> 00:40:35,294 or discovered by the United States Air Force, 543 00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:38,125 which would indicate that the UFO phenomena 544 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,819 represents any interplanetary space vehicle of any kind. 545 00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:48,135 Amid growing pressure, the Air Force commissioned 546 00:40:48,169 --> 00:40:50,206 an outside panel of scientists 547 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,936 to analyze select cases and settle the matter once and for all. 548 00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:59,077 It was headed by physicist Edward Condon. 549 00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:04,323 Dr. Condon, do you hope to find people from outer space here on Earth? 550 00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:08,155 Well, I don't know for sure, but we'll try to just study the reports 551 00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:11,883 and get as much additional information as we can to see. 552 00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:16,888 Would you like to have us being visited by these little or big things? 553 00:41:16,922 --> 00:41:20,408 Well, that'd be fine with me. I hope they're friendly. 554 00:41:20,443 --> 00:41:22,169 How do you propose to go about... 555 00:41:22,203 --> 00:41:25,690 After the project was launched, Condon remarked to an audience 556 00:41:25,724 --> 00:41:29,176 that he thought the UFO subject was nonsense. 557 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:35,803 But "I'm not supposed to reach that conclusion for another year." 558 00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:40,118 After a two-year investigation, 559 00:41:40,152 --> 00:41:44,571 the panel submitted a massive 1,400 page report 560 00:41:44,605 --> 00:41:48,816 showing that many cases were radar and weather anomalies, 561 00:41:48,851 --> 00:41:53,372 but confirming a number as truly unexplainable. 562 00:41:53,407 --> 00:41:56,341 Among them were the famous McMinnville photos 563 00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:59,517 taken on the Trent family farm, 564 00:41:59,551 --> 00:42:04,004 as well as film footage of UFOs in Great Falls, Montana. 565 00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:08,249 As I looked up, I saw two silvery objects 566 00:42:08,284 --> 00:42:10,079 moving swiftly out of the northwest. 567 00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:14,566 No sound, except I thought I heard a whooshing sound when I first saw them. 568 00:42:14,601 --> 00:42:17,051 The discs appeared to be spinning like a top, 569 00:42:17,086 --> 00:42:18,777 and were about 50 feet across, 570 00:42:18,812 --> 00:42:20,607 which was much slower than the jets 571 00:42:20,641 --> 00:42:23,679 which shot by shortly after I filmed the discs. 572 00:42:23,713 --> 00:42:27,924 I could not see any exhaust, wings or any kind of fuselage. 573 00:42:27,959 --> 00:42:31,963 They appeared to be of a bright, shiny metal, like polished silver. 574 00:42:35,035 --> 00:42:40,454 There are cases that are not explainable in conventional terms. 575 00:42:40,488 --> 00:42:45,148 There is the assumption of intelligence or intelligent control, 576 00:42:45,183 --> 00:42:49,946 but not necessarily the assumption of direct communication. 577 00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:53,501 Why are they here? What are they doing? 578 00:42:53,536 --> 00:42:56,608 What do they want from us? What are their motivations? 579 00:42:57,989 --> 00:43:01,579 But it was Dr. Condon who wrote the final word. 580 00:43:14,212 --> 00:43:19,907 I was kind of woolly on that one. You'd have to conclude 581 00:43:19,942 --> 00:43:25,706 that what we were looking at was beyond our current state of the knowledge. 582 00:43:25,741 --> 00:43:29,296 But it began to hit me that Dr. Condon has apparently not read 583 00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:31,298 his own material very carefully. 584 00:43:31,332 --> 00:43:33,887 You do an actual tabulation, which he doesn't seem to have done, 585 00:43:33,921 --> 00:43:36,648 and you find his percentage ofunexplained is five to six times 586 00:43:36,683 --> 00:43:37,925 larger than the Air Force. 587 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,031 And yet, what is his principal recommendation? 588 00:43:40,065 --> 00:43:42,965 The principal recommendation that Dr. Condon has come through with 589 00:43:42,999 --> 00:43:46,002 is there's nothing of scientific interest that warrants further attention 590 00:43:46,037 --> 00:43:48,626 on the part of the federal government here in any major way. 591 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:51,421 He recommends dropping the whole problem. 592 00:43:51,456 --> 00:43:56,668 Nobody could get funded. Nobody would look at the data seriously 593 00:43:56,703 --> 00:44:00,672 because of the prestige of the academy 594 00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:02,881 saying that the problem had been solved. 595 00:44:02,916 --> 00:44:06,678 The Air Force closed their reporting system, 596 00:44:06,713 --> 00:44:09,992 so that if the public wanted to report something, 597 00:44:10,026 --> 00:44:12,373 they would report it to the local police. 598 00:44:12,408 --> 00:44:14,755 But it would never get to the attention 599 00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:18,897 of scientists really examining the phenomena. 600 00:44:20,554 --> 00:44:26,905 In 1969, the Air Force officially ended its public investigations. 601 00:44:29,459 --> 00:44:32,083 Which would suggest what? 602 00:44:32,117 --> 00:44:33,809 That they knew what it was? 603 00:44:35,431 --> 00:44:36,950 Or didn't know what it was. 604 00:44:38,054 --> 00:44:41,713 Also the other way. And they did know what it was. 605 00:45:05,392 --> 00:45:08,809 One aspect of the phenomenon that was swept under the rug 606 00:45:08,844 --> 00:45:12,744 was the pervasive reporting of UFO intrusions 607 00:45:12,779 --> 00:45:17,093 at the world's most sensitive military facilities. 608 00:45:17,128 --> 00:45:20,752 Details did not come to light until decades later 609 00:45:20,787 --> 00:45:24,618 at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. 610 00:45:25,861 --> 00:45:30,520 Declassified US government documents and witness testimony 611 00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:33,869 from former or retired US military personnel 612 00:45:33,903 --> 00:45:40,116 confirmed, beyond any doubt, the reality of ongoing UFO incursions 613 00:45:40,151 --> 00:45:41,980 at nuclear weapon sites. 614 00:45:42,015 --> 00:45:45,501 What you have heard here today is evidence of a phenomenon. 615 00:45:45,535 --> 00:45:48,607 It sounds fantastic, and it is fantastic. 616 00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:53,198 In 1967, I was a missile launch officer 617 00:45:53,233 --> 00:45:55,787 stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana. 618 00:45:55,822 --> 00:46:00,792 Malmstrom was America's first line of nuclear defense, 619 00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:03,622 its silos packed with Minutemen missiles. 620 00:46:03,657 --> 00:46:09,974 Each one nearly 100 times more powerful than the bomb that devastated Hiroshima. 621 00:46:11,182 --> 00:46:15,220 Launch officers could, within minutes of confirmation, 622 00:46:15,255 --> 00:46:22,227 send their birds arcing 6,000 miles to incinerate key Soviet cities, 623 00:46:22,262 --> 00:46:25,783 triggering a war that would end our civilization. 624 00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:42,420 I was the chief of party, I was the observer. 625 00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:47,183 Basically what I was doing was the star observation to provide precise 626 00:46:47,218 --> 00:46:51,636 latitude and longitude on our small three-man team. 627 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:55,398 Came from the north and stopped right over us, 628 00:46:55,433 --> 00:47:01,094 and it had a white light from the center, looking down into this island. 629 00:47:01,128 --> 00:47:04,200 I just said to myself, "What if this thing beams us up 630 00:47:04,235 --> 00:47:06,616 and takes us off to some distant place 631 00:47:06,651 --> 00:47:08,308 and never returned to Earth again?" 632 00:47:08,342 --> 00:47:11,863 I mean, this is going through my head here while this thing's above me. 633 00:47:11,898 --> 00:47:15,902 And then from this dead stop, it shoots off to the east. 634 00:47:15,936 --> 00:47:18,836 It's just like now you see it, now you don't. It just... 635 00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:25,808 The strike team that went out, they saw something. 636 00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:39,166 Lt. Salas was stationed 637 00:47:39,201 --> 00:47:41,893 in his underground launch control capsule 638 00:47:41,928 --> 00:47:46,587 when he received a frantic call from one of his topside guards. 639 00:47:46,622 --> 00:47:47,865 Screaming into the phone, 640 00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:51,627 saying they're looking at a red glowing object 641 00:47:51,661 --> 00:47:54,216 hovering just above our front gate. 642 00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:59,911 Our missiles began going intowhat's called a no-go condition, or unlaunchable. 643 00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:01,326 Essentially, they were disabled. 644 00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:09,507 In fact, ten missiles began going offline in a matter of seconds, 645 00:48:09,541 --> 00:48:11,474 one after the other. 646 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,136 Personally, I'm never aware of two missiles going down at the same time, 647 00:48:18,171 --> 00:48:19,241 let alone ten. 648 00:48:19,275 --> 00:48:20,967 I was a top-secret control officer 649 00:48:21,001 --> 00:48:24,177 and I passed down nuclear launch authenticators. 650 00:48:24,211 --> 00:48:28,353 I can clearly recall a message coming through my communications center 651 00:48:28,388 --> 00:48:31,909 which basically said that a UFO did, in fact, 652 00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:35,809 shut down several missile silos in Montana. 653 00:48:41,435 --> 00:48:44,611 I was on duty at Echo, which is our squadron command post. 654 00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:48,477 We had strike teams respond to alarms from the missiles. 655 00:48:48,511 --> 00:48:50,168 They were three to five miles away. 656 00:48:50,203 --> 00:48:53,137 And they said, "Sir, for lack of a better description, 657 00:48:53,171 --> 00:48:55,415 there's a flying saucer hovering over that missile, 658 00:48:55,449 --> 00:48:58,970 and there's a beam of reddish light going down to it." 659 00:49:00,006 --> 00:49:01,431 It had to be a data collection thing. 660 00:49:01,455 --> 00:49:04,217 I'm sure they scanned the warhead or something. 661 00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:12,950 In 1980, I was reassigned from the Pentagon to RAF Bentwater 662 00:49:12,984 --> 00:49:14,330 as a deputy base commander. 663 00:49:14,365 --> 00:49:16,170 At that time, Bentwaters was one of the largest 664 00:49:16,194 --> 00:49:18,610 tactical fighter ranges in the world. 665 00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:23,546 It was also the largest American nuclear bomb storage depot 666 00:49:23,581 --> 00:49:24,720 in Europe. 667 00:49:24,754 --> 00:49:27,585 In December 1980, early in the morning, 668 00:49:27,619 --> 00:49:29,069 several of our security policemen 669 00:49:29,104 --> 00:49:31,175 discovered strange lights in the forest. 670 00:49:31,209 --> 00:49:33,556 Expecting to find a crashed aircraft, 671 00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:39,666 they came upon an unrecognizable object resting on the forest floor. 672 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:45,465 They observed it for a period of time, and it very quickly and silently vanished. 673 00:49:49,917 --> 00:49:52,230 Two nights later, Col. Halt received 674 00:49:52,265 --> 00:49:56,338 an urgent visit from the base security commander. 675 00:49:56,372 --> 00:49:59,858 He was white as a sheet. He said, "It's back." 676 00:49:59,893 --> 00:50:02,482 I said, "What's back?" He said, "The UFO." 677 00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:06,417 I took several security policemen with me. 678 00:50:06,451 --> 00:50:10,938 I also had my small cassette recorder I carried everywhere when I was on duty. 679 00:50:10,973 --> 00:50:13,838 - What is it? - We don't know, sir. 680 00:50:13,872 --> 00:50:16,358 Yeah, it's a strange, small red light. 681 00:50:16,392 --> 00:50:19,464 And all the barnyard animals have gotten quiet now. 682 00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:20,465 Deathly calm. 683 00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:22,398 This is weird. 684 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,162 One object approached us at very high speed. 685 00:50:27,196 --> 00:50:29,647 Here he comes from the side. He's coming toward us now. 686 00:50:29,681 --> 00:50:33,478 I'm observing what a beam coming down to the ground. 687 00:50:34,721 --> 00:50:36,585 This is unreal. 688 00:50:36,619 --> 00:50:37,758 We stood there in awe. 689 00:50:37,793 --> 00:50:39,933 Was this a warning? 690 00:50:39,967 --> 00:50:41,762 Was this an attempt to communicate? 691 00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:45,352 Was this a weapon, or just a probe? 692 00:50:45,387 --> 00:50:49,667 Just as suddenly as it appeared, click, disappeared. 693 00:50:49,701 --> 00:50:51,496 We stood there... Oh. 694 00:50:52,532 --> 00:50:54,361 About that time, we noticed the other object 695 00:50:54,396 --> 00:50:56,570 to the south was sending down beams. 696 00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:59,263 About a mile, mile and half awayover at Woodbridge Base, 697 00:50:59,297 --> 00:51:01,337 When we had great difficulties communicating. 698 00:51:01,368 --> 00:51:04,026 But we were able to discern that some of those beams were either 699 00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:06,304 falling into or near the weapons storage area, 700 00:51:06,339 --> 00:51:08,789 and there was a great deal of concern. 701 00:51:08,824 --> 00:51:12,931 I also found out later that both the tower operators at Bentwaters 702 00:51:12,966 --> 00:51:17,557 saw an object and picked it up on their bright radar and watched it. 703 00:51:17,591 --> 00:51:20,077 I was just sitting there and I happened to see 704 00:51:20,111 --> 00:51:22,527 a dot come on the scope, 705 00:51:22,562 --> 00:51:25,565 and it just went like, one dot at the beginning, 706 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,015 then another dot, then another dot, and it was gone. 707 00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:32,537 A nd then it made an immediate right-hand turn and came right towards the base. 708 00:51:32,572 --> 00:51:34,194 Just absolutely phenomenal. 709 00:51:34,229 --> 00:51:37,404 It's not like any radar target I've ever seen, 710 00:51:37,439 --> 00:51:40,959 traveling at an extremely high rate of speed. 711 00:51:40,994 --> 00:51:43,997 It passed over the control tower, 712 00:51:44,031 --> 00:51:47,863 and then it stopped. It was an orangish color. 713 00:51:47,897 --> 00:51:50,072 Sort of popped into my mind at the time 714 00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:53,006 that somebody's flying a basketball out here. 715 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,906 There were, like, lights around the center of it. 716 00:51:56,941 --> 00:51:58,977 It was more like portholes. 717 00:51:59,012 --> 00:52:02,119 And then you were seeing the light from the inside. 718 00:52:02,153 --> 00:52:06,364 But it hovered momentarily, reversed its course, 719 00:52:06,399 --> 00:52:09,988 and went back out at a high rate of speed. 720 00:52:12,336 --> 00:52:15,235 Even more alarming incidents took place 721 00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:17,686 on both sides of the Cold War. 722 00:52:20,275 --> 00:52:23,485 According to once secret Soviet documents, 723 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:29,007 a UFO hovered over a Ukrainian nuclear base for nearly an hour. 724 00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:32,218 Inexplicably, several missiles 725 00:52:32,252 --> 00:52:35,359 suddenly switched to full combat readiness 726 00:52:35,393 --> 00:52:40,950 and began a launch sequence without any authentication codes. 727 00:52:40,985 --> 00:52:43,505 After 15 heart-stopping seconds, 728 00:52:43,539 --> 00:52:46,439 the countdown to a potential Armageddon 729 00:52:46,473 --> 00:52:51,478 ceased as abruptly as it had started. 730 00:52:51,513 --> 00:52:54,274 As this object passed over the missile site, 731 00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:57,691 we would start getting erratic indications on that missile. 732 00:52:57,726 --> 00:53:00,107 The bad thing was we also had a launch indicator. 733 00:53:00,142 --> 00:53:03,697 Does that mean that the launch sequence has been triggered? 734 00:53:03,732 --> 00:53:07,184 That means that the missile has received a launch signal. 735 00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:10,532 The countdown had to be manually aborted. 736 00:53:11,947 --> 00:53:13,742 We had UFOs in the air... 737 00:53:13,776 --> 00:53:17,608 These witnesses are some of the most highly-vetted military officers 738 00:53:17,642 --> 00:53:21,059 in charge of the world's most devastating armaments. 739 00:53:22,233 --> 00:53:24,822 If what they're reporting is accurate, 740 00:53:24,856 --> 00:53:28,135 then the pattern is hard to avoid. 741 00:53:28,170 --> 00:53:33,831 UFOs have been making incursions into top-security nuclear facilities 742 00:53:33,865 --> 00:53:36,385 decade after decade. 743 00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,560 To me, it's pretty clear. 744 00:53:38,594 --> 00:53:42,115 "We're shining a light on this, we're pointing it out. 745 00:53:42,149 --> 00:53:45,429 What are you people doing with nuclear weapons?" 746 00:54:30,888 --> 00:54:33,994 As the '90s dawned and the walls fell down, 747 00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:37,964 it was as if humanity itself was demanding to be seen 748 00:54:37,998 --> 00:54:41,105 as one people and one world. 749 00:54:41,139 --> 00:54:43,280 The Soviet Union had dissolved 750 00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:46,110 and history's spotlight began to shine 751 00:54:46,144 --> 00:54:48,561 on long-darkened corners. 752 00:54:49,355 --> 00:54:51,115 Different officials were looking 753 00:54:51,149 --> 00:54:53,255 for ways to open dialogue with the West, 754 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:58,018 and embrace all the changes that were underway 755 00:54:58,053 --> 00:54:59,365 in their country at the time. 756 00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:02,160 This is George Knapp in Moscow, the city many are... 757 00:55:02,195 --> 00:55:04,335 Knapp's team was invited to Moscow, 758 00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:06,544 by government and military officials 759 00:55:06,579 --> 00:55:10,962 who were willing to share decades' worth of UFO files. 760 00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:14,276 Gen. Igor Maltsev, 761 00:55:14,311 --> 00:55:17,521 for seven years, commander of the entire Soviet air defense system 762 00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,800 recalls a UFO flap over Moscow in 1990. 763 00:55:20,834 --> 00:55:24,907 Hundreds of visual and radar observations by military personnel. 764 00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:29,705 Maltsev confirms his standing order was, "Don't fire on the UFOs". 765 00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:33,019 March 1991, radar at the Leningrad airport 766 00:55:33,053 --> 00:55:37,092 detects first one, then two, then three unidentified objects 767 00:55:37,126 --> 00:55:38,749 hovering over a nuclear plant. 768 00:55:38,783 --> 00:55:43,443 From a dead stop, the UFO zipped away at 2,000 miles per hour. 769 00:55:43,478 --> 00:55:45,997 Jacques Vallee was one of few Westerners 770 00:55:46,032 --> 00:55:47,827 to personally investigate the case 771 00:55:47,861 --> 00:55:50,036 by meeting with Russian sources firsthand. 772 00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,420 An object hovered near a nuclear power plant in Voronezh 773 00:55:54,454 --> 00:55:57,250 and a beam from that object melted the asphalt there. 774 00:55:57,284 --> 00:55:59,079 The intention was, maybe we would be 775 00:55:59,114 --> 00:56:00,771 able to find out from the Russians 776 00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:04,499 more about what the American government knows about UFOs 777 00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:06,684 than we will ever learn from the American government itself. 778 00:56:06,708 --> 00:56:09,918 - Governor, you ready to take the oath? - I am. 779 00:56:09,952 --> 00:56:12,230 When a young, open-minded president, 780 00:56:12,265 --> 00:56:13,991 was sworn in, 781 00:56:14,025 --> 00:56:17,857 one of America's most highly placed civilians saw a chance 782 00:56:17,891 --> 00:56:20,929 for a new government transparency on the phenomenon. 783 00:56:20,963 --> 00:56:25,451 As a means of access to people to the wonders of nature... 784 00:56:25,485 --> 00:56:27,763 Heir to the power and influence 785 00:56:27,798 --> 00:56:30,352 of one of the world's wealthiest families, 786 00:56:30,387 --> 00:56:31,733 Laurance Rockefeller, 787 00:56:31,767 --> 00:56:34,770 philanthropist and conservationist, 788 00:56:34,805 --> 00:56:38,705 also had a passionate interest in UFOs. 789 00:56:38,740 --> 00:56:44,642 His idea was to approach the President 790 00:56:44,677 --> 00:56:50,130 with a plea for making available the data 791 00:56:50,165 --> 00:56:53,479 that the government had on the subject. 792 00:56:53,513 --> 00:56:56,171 The first inclination by, 793 00:56:56,205 --> 00:56:59,450 particularly people in government 794 00:56:59,485 --> 00:57:01,452 is, "You got to be kidding me". 795 00:57:01,487 --> 00:57:04,282 You want me to risk my career 796 00:57:04,317 --> 00:57:06,802 by getting deeply into 797 00:57:06,837 --> 00:57:09,598 the rabbit hole of talking about UFOs?" 798 00:57:09,633 --> 00:57:14,465 And so there's a tremendous resistance. 799 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:18,124 Rockefeller met with President Clinton's science advisor, 800 00:57:18,158 --> 00:57:20,333 Jack Gibbons, at the White House,. 801 00:57:20,367 --> 00:57:23,612 And persuaded him to take action. 802 00:57:23,647 --> 00:57:26,477 Rockefeller was then asked to pick a case 803 00:57:26,512 --> 00:57:29,411 that the White House should attempt to declassify. 804 00:57:30,895 --> 00:57:34,761 He chose the 1947 Roswell incident, 805 00:57:34,796 --> 00:57:39,835 noting, "Many are convinced that Roswell marks the beginning 806 00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:42,942 of government secrecy about UFO's". 807 00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:47,394 Jack had actually gone to the Air Force, 808 00:57:47,429 --> 00:57:50,190 asked then-Secretary Widnall, 809 00:57:50,225 --> 00:57:52,020 who was the Secretary of the Air Force, 810 00:57:52,054 --> 00:57:54,540 to take a look, particularly, 811 00:57:54,574 --> 00:57:57,819 at the records around Roswell, New Mexico. 812 00:57:57,853 --> 00:57:59,959 "Dear Colonel Cavitt. 813 00:57:59,993 --> 00:58:03,997 The General Accounting Office, seeks to fully explain the claim 814 00:58:04,032 --> 00:58:08,450 that the US government recovered an alien spacecraft 815 00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:12,523 near Roswell, New Mexico, in July 1947, 816 00:58:12,558 --> 00:58:15,871 and since that time has covered up that fact. 817 00:58:17,701 --> 00:58:19,496 The Army Air Forces has announced 818 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:20,980 that a flying disc has been found 819 00:58:21,014 --> 00:58:22,982 and is now in the possession of the Army. 820 00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:43,381 Roswell was then home 821 00:58:43,416 --> 00:58:45,936 to the world's only nuclear air wing, 822 00:58:45,970 --> 00:58:48,628 including the B-29 that had dropped 823 00:58:48,663 --> 00:58:51,562 the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima. 824 00:58:53,115 --> 00:58:57,464 The base's chief intelligence officer, Maj. Jesse Marcel, 825 00:58:57,499 --> 00:59:00,606 was dispatched to the ranch to investigate. 826 00:59:08,337 --> 00:59:10,581 Marcel and another officer 827 00:59:10,616 --> 00:59:13,860 were the first military to arrive at the crash site. 828 00:59:13,895 --> 00:59:18,209 They came upon an expanse of unrecognizable debris 829 00:59:18,244 --> 00:59:19,486 strewn across an area 830 00:59:19,521 --> 00:59:22,662 the size of a dozen football fields. 831 00:59:29,807 --> 00:59:32,948 We found a piece of metal... Uh... 832 00:59:32,983 --> 00:59:35,848 About a foot and half to two feet wide. 833 00:59:44,235 --> 00:59:46,755 The thing that got me is that 834 00:59:46,790 --> 00:59:49,827 you couldn't even bend it. You couldn't dent it. 835 00:59:49,862 --> 00:59:52,105 Even a sledgehammer would bounce off it. 836 00:59:53,382 --> 00:59:55,074 Marcel was ordered to immediately 837 00:59:55,108 --> 00:59:57,317 transport the strange wreckage 838 00:59:57,352 --> 01:00:00,458 to Fort Worth Army Airfield. 839 01:00:00,493 --> 01:00:03,600 There, Marcel was met by the commanding general, 840 01:00:03,634 --> 01:00:05,602 who told him to keep silent 841 01:00:05,636 --> 01:00:09,467 in the face of what was becoming a media frenzy. 842 01:00:09,502 --> 01:00:13,471 They had a whole flock of microphones there. 843 01:00:13,506 --> 01:00:15,335 They wanted some comments from me, 844 01:00:15,370 --> 01:00:17,648 but I wasn't at liberty to do that. 845 01:00:19,685 --> 01:00:22,273 Marcel was instead ordered to pose 846 01:00:22,308 --> 01:00:25,276 with wood, foil and rubber debris, 847 01:00:25,311 --> 01:00:27,589 from a conventional weather balloon. 848 01:00:28,901 --> 01:00:31,938 All I could do is keep my mouth shut. 849 01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:34,976 And Gen. Ramey is the one who told the newspapers 850 01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:38,117 what it was and to forget about it. 851 01:00:38,151 --> 01:00:41,914 It was nothing more than a weather observation balloon. 852 01:00:41,948 --> 01:00:45,193 Of course, we both knew differently. 853 01:00:45,227 --> 01:00:47,505 Col. Thomas DuBose, who was also 854 01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:49,922 ordered to pose with the fake debris, 855 01:00:49,956 --> 01:00:54,961 describes how an iron curtain of secrecy slammed down. 856 01:01:14,878 --> 01:01:16,718 Congressman Schiff, what got you interested 857 01:01:16,742 --> 01:01:18,675 in this subject per se? 858 01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:20,159 I started receiving letters 859 01:01:20,193 --> 01:01:23,024 a little over two years ago from constituents, 860 01:01:23,058 --> 01:01:25,440 stating that they believe the government was covering up 861 01:01:25,474 --> 01:01:26,855 what happened at Roswell. 862 01:01:26,890 --> 01:01:29,030 Many of them clearly believed, 863 01:01:29,064 --> 01:01:32,136 that it was, in fact, an extraterrestrial crash. 864 01:01:32,171 --> 01:01:34,173 The weather balloon story never made sense 865 01:01:34,207 --> 01:01:37,107 because it was clearly, and undisputed in my mind, 866 01:01:37,141 --> 01:01:39,626 extra military attention to this matter, 867 01:01:39,661 --> 01:01:41,698 from extra security around the crash scene 868 01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:44,390 to special handling of whatever the debris was. 869 01:01:44,424 --> 01:01:47,738 That could fit a classified project. 870 01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:49,809 It doesn't fit a weather balloon. 871 01:01:51,431 --> 01:01:53,571 In September 1994, 872 01:01:53,606 --> 01:01:56,782 the Air Force issued its response. 873 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,066 The Air Force claimed it was a secret project of weather balloons 874 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,931 hung with box kites and microphones, 875 01:02:07,965 --> 01:02:11,175 to spy on Soviet nuclear tests. 876 01:02:12,487 --> 01:02:14,696 Please roll the video. 877 01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:16,111 There's a famous box kite 878 01:02:16,146 --> 01:02:18,907 that became the famous flying disc. 879 01:02:18,942 --> 01:02:23,187 Weather balloons that were on the balloon train. 880 01:02:23,222 --> 01:02:26,501 Same rubber balloon, same foil box kite 881 01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:28,814 as the original cover story, 882 01:02:28,848 --> 01:02:30,850 only many of them strung together 883 01:02:30,885 --> 01:02:35,061 with microphones dangling beneath. 884 01:02:35,096 --> 01:02:37,823 That's the tin foil paper, rubber and sticks that they recovered 885 01:02:37,857 --> 01:02:40,308 in the desert near New Mexico in 1947. 886 01:02:41,827 --> 01:02:44,450 The Air Force, nearly 50 years later, 887 01:02:44,484 --> 01:02:46,970 was basically telling the same tale. 888 01:02:48,005 --> 01:02:50,111 That the top security personnel 889 01:02:50,145 --> 01:02:53,252 of the world's only atomic-bombing wing 890 01:02:53,286 --> 01:02:56,186 really had mistaken this rubber, wood 891 01:02:56,220 --> 01:02:59,948 and tin foil for a crashed flying saucer. 892 01:03:01,985 --> 01:03:03,296 Being an intelligence officer, 893 01:03:03,331 --> 01:03:05,678 I was familiar with just about all the materials used 894 01:03:05,712 --> 01:03:09,268 in aircraft and/or air travel. 895 01:03:09,302 --> 01:03:10,994 This is nothing like that. 896 01:03:11,028 --> 01:03:15,619 It was not anything from this Earth. That I'm quite sure of. 897 01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:18,449 My suspicion is that 898 01:03:18,484 --> 01:03:21,245 the Roswell incident did happen, 899 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,629 and something maybe not from our universe, 900 01:03:25,663 --> 01:03:27,493 went down there. 901 01:03:27,527 --> 01:03:30,082 And we should... 902 01:03:30,116 --> 01:03:32,809 allow the American people to make a judgment 903 01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:35,570 on what that might have been by disclosing. 904 01:03:35,604 --> 01:03:37,089 I mean, this is probably 905 01:03:37,123 --> 01:03:41,334 the most blatant case of overreaction 906 01:03:41,369 --> 01:03:43,820 to what is national security. 907 01:03:43,854 --> 01:03:45,787 The public has a right to know. 908 01:03:48,341 --> 01:03:50,999 Rockefeller put together a briefing document 909 01:03:51,034 --> 01:03:53,691 intended for world leaders 910 01:03:53,726 --> 01:03:55,728 with a sobering observation. 911 01:03:57,419 --> 01:04:01,320 It is conceivable that even the President himself 912 01:04:01,354 --> 01:04:03,840 is not fully briefed on matters 913 01:04:03,874 --> 01:04:06,843 classified as "above top secret." 914 01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:10,777 I did attempt to find out if there were 915 01:04:10,812 --> 01:04:12,745 any secret government documents 916 01:04:12,779 --> 01:04:15,023 that reveal things, and if there were, 917 01:04:15,058 --> 01:04:16,680 they were concealed from me, too. 918 01:04:16,714 --> 01:04:18,475 I wouldn't be the first president 919 01:04:18,509 --> 01:04:20,235 that underlings have lied to 920 01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:22,928 or the career bureaucrats have waited out. 921 01:04:22,962 --> 01:04:27,933 But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere 922 01:04:27,967 --> 01:04:30,936 hiding these dark secrets, even from elected presidents. 923 01:04:30,970 --> 01:04:33,490 But if so, they successfully eluded me. 924 01:04:33,524 --> 01:04:37,321 And I'm almost embarrassed totell you, I did try to find out. 925 01:04:40,014 --> 01:04:41,843 Three feet for second contact. 926 01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:43,017 That was a beautiful one. 927 01:04:43,051 --> 01:04:45,467 Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell, 928 01:04:45,502 --> 01:04:47,504 who had grown up around Roswell, 929 01:04:47,538 --> 01:04:51,957 was an aerospace insider with deep Pentagon connections. 930 01:04:53,717 --> 01:04:56,789 He became convinced there were UFO secrets 931 01:04:56,823 --> 01:04:59,757 concealed from normal government channels. 932 01:04:59,792 --> 01:05:02,415 Well, if the accounts are to be believed... 933 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,040 Yes, there have been ET visitation. 934 01:05:06,074 --> 01:05:08,870 There have been crashed craft. 935 01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:13,875 There have beenmaterial and bodies recovered... 936 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:17,258 and there is some group of people somewhere 937 01:05:18,017 --> 01:05:21,089 that may or may not be 938 01:05:21,124 --> 01:05:23,022 associated with the government at this point, 939 01:05:23,057 --> 01:05:25,473 but certainly were at one time, 940 01:05:25,507 --> 01:05:27,268 that have this knowledge. 941 01:05:42,214 --> 01:05:46,045 No one has proven there's nothing to it. 942 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,703 No one's had the opportunity to prove 943 01:05:48,737 --> 01:05:52,879 there's something to it, and that's what I did. 944 01:05:52,914 --> 01:05:54,571 And every passing day... 945 01:05:54,605 --> 01:05:58,092 In 2007, the most powerful man in the Senate, 946 01:05:58,126 --> 01:06:00,680 majority leader Harry Reid, 947 01:06:00,715 --> 01:06:02,682 persuaded two colleagues, 948 01:06:02,717 --> 01:06:05,962 Senators Ted Stevens and Daniel Inouye, 949 01:06:05,996 --> 01:06:08,378 to secretly allocate millions 950 01:06:08,412 --> 01:06:13,831 in Defense Department funds to investigate UFOs. 951 01:06:13,866 --> 01:06:18,215 The covert program operated from the tail end of the Bush presidency, 952 01:06:18,250 --> 01:06:20,838 through the Obama administration, 953 01:06:20,873 --> 01:06:24,325 and into Donald Trump's first year in office. 954 01:06:27,224 --> 01:06:30,607 In December of 2017, the lid blew off. 955 01:06:35,922 --> 01:06:38,408 At long last, the government was admitting 956 01:06:38,442 --> 01:06:42,308 a modern-day program to investigate UFOs 957 01:06:42,343 --> 01:06:45,415 and released startling official evidence, 958 01:06:45,449 --> 01:06:50,868 including videotapes from the cockpits of military aircraft. 959 01:06:52,215 --> 01:06:54,803 One of the key authors ofThe Times story 960 01:06:54,838 --> 01:06:56,426 was investigative journalist 961 01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:59,429 and best-selling author Leslie Kean. 962 01:06:59,463 --> 01:07:02,915 She went to Washington to meet with Luis Elizondo, 963 01:07:02,949 --> 01:07:05,400 who had just resigned from his position 964 01:07:05,435 --> 01:07:09,749 as head of the secret Pentagon UFO program. 965 01:07:09,784 --> 01:07:11,268 I was invited to this meeting. 966 01:07:11,303 --> 01:07:14,375 They wanted me to meet Mr. Elizondo, to see what could happen. 967 01:07:14,409 --> 01:07:16,480 Objects that are moving so fast 968 01:07:16,515 --> 01:07:19,104 and yet we don't see an ionization trail in the air 969 01:07:19,138 --> 01:07:21,002 and you don't hear a sonic boom. 970 01:07:21,037 --> 01:07:23,142 How is that possible? Another one is... 971 01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:25,489 Elizondo's colleagues took her aside 972 01:07:25,524 --> 01:07:28,527 to reveal some extraordinary documentation 973 01:07:28,561 --> 01:07:31,047 related to the program. 974 01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:33,152 I wasn't allowed to take anything with me. 975 01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:35,948 I mean, the most importantevidence that was shared with me 976 01:07:35,982 --> 01:07:37,087 at the meeting regarding 977 01:07:37,122 --> 01:07:39,469 the phenomenon itself, were the videos. 978 01:07:50,825 --> 01:07:53,655 I knew this was breaking news for the front page of The New York Times. 979 01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:07,462 My co-author, Ralph Blumenthal, 980 01:08:07,497 --> 01:08:09,499 and I set up a meeting with Mark Mazzetti 981 01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:12,260 and said, "We have this explosive story." 982 01:08:12,295 --> 01:08:14,780 Sat down with him in the New York office of The New York Times 983 01:08:14,814 --> 01:08:16,575 and we brought in all the documents. 984 01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:17,955 "These are the videos. 985 01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:20,441 Here's other documents that show the existence of the program. 986 01:08:20,475 --> 01:08:23,306 And here's what they've studiedand here's what they've learned. 987 01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:26,274 And there's a letter from Harry Reid about the program." 988 01:08:27,379 --> 01:08:29,070 Elizondo's colleague, 989 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,245 the former deputy assistant secretary 990 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:33,730 of defense for intelligence, 991 01:08:33,764 --> 01:08:35,801 Christopher Mellon, managed to 992 01:08:35,835 --> 01:08:38,079 obtain the tapes from the Pentagon, 993 01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:42,014 and choseThe New York Times to break the story. 994 01:08:42,048 --> 01:08:44,154 I received the videos, 995 01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:47,226 the now-famous videos, in the Pentagon parking lot 996 01:08:47,261 --> 01:08:49,228 from a Defense Department official. 997 01:08:49,263 --> 01:08:51,851 I still have the originals in the packaging. 998 01:08:51,886 --> 01:08:56,339 This is a case where somebody bent the rules a little bit, 999 01:08:56,373 --> 01:09:00,170 and they did so for the larger good. 1000 01:09:00,205 --> 01:09:03,898 And we're absolutely all better off because of it. 1001 01:09:03,932 --> 01:09:05,175 In the end, I have to say, 1002 01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:07,039 I was still extraordinarily 1003 01:09:07,073 --> 01:09:09,697 disappointed with The New York Times, 1004 01:09:09,731 --> 01:09:14,598 because they focused on this small AATIP program. 1005 01:09:14,633 --> 01:09:18,326 And the real story, in my mind at least, should have been, 1006 01:09:18,361 --> 01:09:21,812 "These things are real, they're here. 1007 01:09:21,847 --> 01:09:23,676 This is happening now." 1008 01:09:26,921 --> 01:09:28,647 One of the Pentagon cases 1009 01:09:28,681 --> 01:09:30,511 reported byThe New York Times, 1010 01:09:30,545 --> 01:09:33,203 was an encounter by Naval aircraft, 1011 01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:37,932 about 200 miles off the coast of San Diego, California. 1012 01:09:37,966 --> 01:09:39,185 Fifty-five hundred people that were on 1013 01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:41,142 the Nimitzin 2004, when this happened, 1014 01:09:41,177 --> 01:09:44,007 and I guarantee every single one of them 1015 01:09:44,041 --> 01:09:45,733 knows that this event happened. 1016 01:09:45,767 --> 01:09:48,563 That's a whole air wing. That's Mount Fuji. That's Japan. 1017 01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:52,222 Commander David Fravor was leading a training exercise 1018 01:09:52,257 --> 01:09:55,501 from theUSS Nimitz carrier strike group 1019 01:09:55,536 --> 01:09:59,781 when he was abruptly ordered to investigate an unknown target 1020 01:09:59,816 --> 01:10:03,475 that had appeared on one of the ship's radar scopes. 1021 01:10:03,509 --> 01:10:05,960 We're gonna suspend the training we have real-world tasking. 1022 01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:07,651 So we're like, "Okay, cool." 1023 01:10:07,686 --> 01:10:10,861 He and another F-18 Super Hornet, 1024 01:10:10,896 --> 01:10:15,141 each carrying two airmen, zoomed toward the coordinates. 1025 01:10:15,176 --> 01:10:17,385 It was myself and my WSO 1026 01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:19,422 and the other pilot and the WSO in the back seat 1027 01:10:19,456 --> 01:10:21,113 of that airplane. So, there's four of us. 1028 01:10:23,011 --> 01:10:24,575 When they arrived, they first saw 1029 01:10:24,599 --> 01:10:27,326 what appeared to be a large object 1030 01:10:27,361 --> 01:10:29,984 slightly below the surface of the ocean, 1031 01:10:30,018 --> 01:10:32,400 with a strange oval-shaped craft 1032 01:10:32,435 --> 01:10:35,576 darting around in the air just above it. 1033 01:10:35,610 --> 01:10:38,993 If you picture a Tic Tac that's about 40 feet long, 1034 01:10:39,027 --> 01:10:41,064 round on both ends, no rivets, 1035 01:10:41,098 --> 01:10:43,687 no metal, smooth, white. It was white. 1036 01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:47,208 It was just smooth. No wings, no propulsion, no windows. 1037 01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:50,222 It didn't matter which way it was pointing because as it was moving over the water, 1038 01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:53,525 it never turned. It never changed its longitudinal axis. 1039 01:10:53,559 --> 01:10:56,769 It went fore, aft, left, right. It was just doing this. 1040 01:10:56,804 --> 01:10:59,703 And I said, "Hey, I'm gonna go check that out." 1041 01:11:04,743 --> 01:11:07,297 All of a sudden, you just see itturn its body and go... 1042 01:11:07,332 --> 01:11:08,954 And start coming up at you. You go, 1043 01:11:08,988 --> 01:11:11,543 "That was rather interesting." 1044 01:11:11,577 --> 01:11:14,960 We're just looking at it. We're doing this. We're looking at it. 1045 01:11:14,994 --> 01:11:16,962 We're looking at it. We go around. 1046 01:11:16,996 --> 01:11:18,974 All the way around the outside of a circle, 180 degrees. 1047 01:11:18,998 --> 01:11:22,623 Well, I know where he's going, so I'll just go over there. 1048 01:11:27,179 --> 01:11:29,319 This thing goes "poof" and it's gone. 1049 01:11:29,354 --> 01:11:33,185 I mean, literally that fast. Gone. 1050 01:11:34,738 --> 01:11:36,233 You can think about what we're saying. Like, 1051 01:11:36,257 --> 01:11:39,329 "Holy shit. What the... is that?" 1052 01:11:39,364 --> 01:11:41,987 And then there's a lot of, "Dude, what the... 1053 01:11:42,021 --> 01:11:43,333 Did you guys see that? 1054 01:11:43,368 --> 01:11:45,059 Do you guys see it?" And they're like, 1055 01:11:45,093 --> 01:11:47,164 "It's gone. We don't see shit." 1056 01:11:48,269 --> 01:11:52,238 Nothing accelerates that fast. You're talking... 1057 01:11:52,273 --> 01:11:54,413 Something that not only accelerated 1058 01:11:54,448 --> 01:11:56,795 beyond anything that we had seen, 1059 01:11:56,829 --> 01:11:58,452 but it just was... 1060 01:12:00,177 --> 01:12:01,593 The controller comes up and says, 1061 01:12:01,627 --> 01:12:03,733 "Hey, you're not gonna believe this, 1062 01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:07,012 but that thing is back at your CAD point." 1063 01:12:07,046 --> 01:12:11,119 Meaning the object had instantly reappeared at the precise 1064 01:12:11,154 --> 01:12:13,432 secret coordinates of the fleet's 1065 01:12:13,467 --> 01:12:17,056 critical aerial defense zone. 1066 01:12:17,091 --> 01:12:19,127 It obviously had some awareness. 1067 01:12:19,162 --> 01:12:21,544 It knew where we were going. 1068 01:12:21,578 --> 01:12:25,375 It'll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 1069 01:12:25,410 --> 01:12:27,308 I actually told my back seater, I said, 1070 01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,828 "I don't know about you. I'm pretty weirded out." 1071 01:12:32,589 --> 01:12:35,592 More jets equipped with the Navy's most advanced 1072 01:12:35,627 --> 01:12:40,425 radar visual tracking systems were scrambled. 1073 01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:43,980 This time, capturing the object on video. 1074 01:12:44,014 --> 01:12:46,845 First thing he gets is a little blip on the radar. 1075 01:12:46,879 --> 01:12:51,988 He puts his cursors over it, and he tries to grab a lock on it. 1076 01:12:53,921 --> 01:12:55,201 Basically, when you take a lock, 1077 01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:58,063 you tell the radar, "Look at that location, 1078 01:12:58,097 --> 01:13:01,411 and stare at it, and put all your energy on that point." 1079 01:13:01,446 --> 01:13:03,862 Well, as soon as it does it, the radar gets indications 1080 01:13:03,896 --> 01:13:06,727 that it's being jammed by the object it's trying to lock. 1081 01:13:10,109 --> 01:13:12,388 The infrared sees differing temperatures, 1082 01:13:12,422 --> 01:13:15,839 so the Tic Tac is hotter than the air around it. 1083 01:13:15,874 --> 01:13:18,980 It doesn't have to be by much, but it's gonna appear white. 1084 01:13:19,015 --> 01:13:20,499 They're driving straight at it. 1085 01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,571 It's just kind of hovering there. 1086 01:13:23,606 --> 01:13:27,368 And then it goes "poof" and it takes off, off the side. 1087 01:13:29,819 --> 01:13:33,409 I just don't know. I doubt that we... 1088 01:13:33,443 --> 01:13:35,549 have developed that technology. 1089 01:13:37,758 --> 01:13:41,865 I interviewed three of the four aviators 1090 01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:44,972 who were with Dave, during that encounter, 1091 01:13:45,006 --> 01:13:49,355 and it was readily apparent to everyone involved that 1092 01:13:49,390 --> 01:13:51,599 that vehicle had what they call 1093 01:13:51,634 --> 01:13:54,015 "dominant battlespace awareness." 1094 01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:58,951 It was in control of that engagement from the outset. 1095 01:13:58,986 --> 01:14:03,369 There was no question that it completely outmatched 1096 01:14:03,404 --> 01:14:05,613 our frontline fighters. 1097 01:14:05,648 --> 01:14:09,583 I served on the Special Access Program Oversight Committee, 1098 01:14:09,617 --> 01:14:12,551 so I had access to all of the black programs in those days. 1099 01:14:12,586 --> 01:14:14,760 We know perfectly well there's nothing like that 1100 01:14:14,795 --> 01:14:17,867 behind the scenes or even on the drawing boards. 1101 01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:22,596 Senator Harry Reid, who instigated 1102 01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:25,633 the secret Pentagon UFO program, 1103 01:14:25,668 --> 01:14:28,325 confirmed what nuclear launch officers 1104 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,604 have been reporting for decades. 1105 01:14:32,537 --> 01:14:35,367 UFOs have interfered with our country's 1106 01:14:35,401 --> 01:14:37,818 most powerful weapons. 1107 01:14:43,755 --> 01:14:45,584 Did you have anybody 1108 01:14:45,619 --> 01:14:48,622 in the Defense Department, the Pentagon, 1109 01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:54,075 pull you aside, bend your ear and say, "Why are you doing this?" 1110 01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:55,732 They did everything they could 1111 01:14:55,767 --> 01:14:58,079 to stop the program from going forward. 1112 01:14:58,114 --> 01:15:01,876 They gave the person that came in initially such a bad time. 1113 01:15:01,911 --> 01:15:03,844 He's fortunate to have hung on to his job 1114 01:15:03,878 --> 01:15:05,673 because people tried to get rid of him, 1115 01:15:05,708 --> 01:15:08,987 because they wanted nothing to do with this. 1116 01:15:09,021 --> 01:15:13,301 The Defense Intelligence Agency was one of the worst. 1117 01:15:13,336 --> 01:15:14,820 They drug their feet, 1118 01:15:14,855 --> 01:15:17,513 even though there was one of their senior scientists 1119 01:15:17,547 --> 01:15:19,342 thought they should look at this. 1120 01:15:19,376 --> 01:15:22,345 And remember, all we're saying... 1121 01:15:22,379 --> 01:15:26,004 Nobody has to agree why it's there. 1122 01:15:26,038 --> 01:15:28,938 But shouldn't we at least be spending some money 1123 01:15:28,972 --> 01:15:30,974 to study all these phenomenon? 1124 01:15:31,009 --> 01:15:35,082 Shouldn't we study this stuff? The answer is yes. 1125 01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:36,911 And that's all this was about, 1126 01:15:36,946 --> 01:15:41,813 and why the federal government, all these years, has covered up, 1127 01:15:41,847 --> 01:15:45,541 put brake pads on everything. Stopped it. 1128 01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:48,923 I think it's very, very bad for our country. 1129 01:15:54,515 --> 01:15:56,517 I interviewed Gordon Cooper, 1130 01:15:56,552 --> 01:15:59,244 Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper, back in the '90s. 1131 01:15:59,278 --> 01:16:01,211 Cooper said on camera 1132 01:16:01,246 --> 01:16:04,594 that there was a landed UFO circa 1957 1133 01:16:04,629 --> 01:16:06,941 at Edwards Air Force Base. His camera crew captured 1134 01:16:06,976 --> 01:16:08,633 the filming of this object, 1135 01:16:08,667 --> 01:16:13,051 and he presented this to the higher-ups 1136 01:16:13,085 --> 01:16:15,709 and eventually, a courier jet came in from Washington. 1137 01:16:15,743 --> 01:16:18,263 He handed the footage over, which was good, he viewed it... 1138 01:16:18,297 --> 01:16:19,954 - That's the last he saw of it. - Exactly. 1139 01:16:19,989 --> 01:16:21,725 Did you know where that footage went 1140 01:16:21,749 --> 01:16:24,372 of the flying saucer that landed on the... 1141 01:16:24,407 --> 01:16:26,478 Went to Washington. That's all that I know. 1142 01:16:26,512 --> 01:16:28,698 Did you ever keep in touch with anybody about it or discuss it? 1143 01:16:28,722 --> 01:16:31,828 How would I keep in touch with anybody about it? 1144 01:16:31,863 --> 01:16:34,624 There's no way within the military or within the government 1145 01:16:34,659 --> 01:16:37,627 of keeping track of something that is classified. 1146 01:16:37,662 --> 01:16:40,354 Did you try to go after stuff like this? 1147 01:16:40,388 --> 01:16:42,598 We did. We have. It's there. 1148 01:16:42,632 --> 01:16:47,603 Are you saying that there's some evidence that's... 1149 01:16:47,637 --> 01:16:49,984 Still hasn't seen the light of day? 1150 01:16:51,192 --> 01:16:54,437 I'm saying most of it hasn't seen the light of day. 1151 01:16:59,373 --> 01:17:01,444 Astronaut Cooper had spoken 1152 01:17:01,478 --> 01:17:03,791 with the President at a Cabinet meeting. 1153 01:17:03,826 --> 01:17:06,138 He raised this with Secretary Cohen. 1154 01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:09,452 And then Cohen's office called me and asked me 1155 01:17:09,486 --> 01:17:12,489 to pursue this and chase it down. 1156 01:17:15,941 --> 01:17:19,427 The Air Force colonel that I spoke with got very frustrated, 1157 01:17:19,462 --> 01:17:22,327 and when I asked him what happened to all of these records, he said, 1158 01:17:22,361 --> 01:17:26,124 "Well, that was all cleaned up or thrown out to save space," 1159 01:17:26,158 --> 01:17:27,263 something like that. 1160 01:17:27,297 --> 01:17:30,715 It sounded ludicrous, but that's what he told me. 1161 01:17:32,855 --> 01:17:36,962 If there is some recovered debris, say... 1162 01:17:37,963 --> 01:17:41,587 It is so deeply buried and squirreled away 1163 01:17:41,622 --> 01:17:46,696 that it's outside of those normal oversight processes, 1164 01:17:46,731 --> 01:17:50,079 and that's where there's a problem in this area. 1165 01:17:56,741 --> 01:17:58,881 Dr. Jacques Vallee has collected 1166 01:17:58,915 --> 01:18:02,125 purported metal debris from UFO cases 1167 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,335 dating as far back as 1947 1168 01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:09,719 that experts are analyzing in a state-of-the-art laboratory. 1169 01:18:09,754 --> 01:18:13,619 The breakthrough has come with the invention of a machine 1170 01:18:13,654 --> 01:18:17,071 that enables usto look at the atomic structure, 1171 01:18:17,106 --> 01:18:18,452 and at that point, 1172 01:18:18,486 --> 01:18:21,731 the atomic structure is impossible to fake. 1173 01:18:21,766 --> 01:18:25,804 This device is a multi-parameterion beam imager. 1174 01:18:25,839 --> 01:18:29,463 Dr. Garry Nolan, a Stanford microbiologist, 1175 01:18:29,497 --> 01:18:33,847 is using a revolutionary three-dimensional imaging device 1176 01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:39,542 to analyze the samples right down to their individual atoms. 1177 01:18:39,576 --> 01:18:42,096 When Dr. Nolan placed some of the fragments 1178 01:18:42,131 --> 01:18:44,547 in the vacuum chamber of his instrument, 1179 01:18:44,581 --> 01:18:47,584 he was astonished to find their composition 1180 01:18:47,619 --> 01:18:49,759 was unlike any known metal. 1181 01:18:49,794 --> 01:18:54,833 Just one spot and the isotopic composition all the way across. 1182 01:18:54,868 --> 01:18:56,697 No matter where he looked 1183 01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:58,872 in the sample's jumble of elements, 1184 01:18:58,906 --> 01:19:02,703 whether magnesium, iron, nickel or titanium, 1185 01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:06,776 the ratio of isotopes didn't make any sense. 1186 01:19:06,811 --> 01:19:11,781 If you're talking about an advanced material from an advanced civilization, 1187 01:19:11,816 --> 01:19:13,069 you're talking about something that... 1188 01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:15,440 I'll just call it an ultra-material, right? 1189 01:19:15,474 --> 01:19:17,960 It's something which has properties 1190 01:19:17,994 --> 01:19:21,273 where somebody is putting it together, 1191 01:19:21,308 --> 01:19:22,999 again, at the atomic scale. 1192 01:19:23,034 --> 01:19:28,936 So we're building our world with 80 elements. 1193 01:19:28,971 --> 01:19:31,421 Somebody else is building the world 1194 01:19:31,456 --> 01:19:34,908 with 253 different isotopes. 1195 01:19:36,944 --> 01:19:41,569 I intend to use the information to try to build something. 1196 01:19:41,604 --> 01:19:43,537 Try to understand a physical principle 1197 01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:45,159 that we don't know today. 1198 01:19:45,194 --> 01:19:49,060 This material was manufactured. It's not natural. 1199 01:19:49,094 --> 01:19:53,616 It's not natural to the materials that we have around us 1200 01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:55,894 in the lab, or on the Earth. 1201 01:19:55,929 --> 01:19:58,932 It does not mean that it was necessarily 1202 01:19:58,966 --> 01:20:01,797 made some place in outer space. 1203 01:20:01,831 --> 01:20:04,523 It just means that it was manufactured 1204 01:20:04,558 --> 01:20:07,043 specially for a particular purpose 1205 01:20:07,078 --> 01:20:10,322 that we don't understand, and we want to understand it. 1206 01:20:17,951 --> 01:20:21,713 There is an immense array of unanswered questions. 1207 01:20:23,094 --> 01:20:27,270 When we observe some of these craft doing, 1208 01:20:27,305 --> 01:20:29,479 think about the possibilities, 1209 01:20:29,514 --> 01:20:32,482 what we may discover technologically, 1210 01:20:32,517 --> 01:20:34,519 how we might solve the energy crisis, 1211 01:20:34,553 --> 01:20:36,970 how we might raise our standards of living. 1212 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:40,870 There is an urgent need, in my view, 1213 01:20:40,905 --> 01:20:42,251 to get to the bottom of it. 1214 01:20:42,285 --> 01:20:44,736 We don't know the origin of these vehicles 1215 01:20:44,770 --> 01:20:46,738 nor do we understand the intent 1216 01:20:46,772 --> 01:20:49,361 of whoever is controlling them. 1217 01:20:51,916 --> 01:20:55,643 There are cases that seem to go beyond encounters 1218 01:20:55,678 --> 01:20:57,818 with an advanced technology, 1219 01:20:57,853 --> 01:21:01,201 to contact with an engaged intelligence. 1220 01:21:02,029 --> 01:21:05,861 Papua New Guinea. June, 1959 1221 01:21:05,895 --> 01:21:09,554 An Australian missionary spots a large disc 1222 01:21:09,588 --> 01:21:12,764 hovering just 200 feet off the ground 1223 01:21:12,798 --> 01:21:15,905 while standing with 38 other people. 1224 01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:20,910 This solid-looking object and... Can you imagine? 1225 01:21:20,945 --> 01:21:23,809 What it's like to look up in the sky 1226 01:21:23,844 --> 01:21:27,917 and see some figures up there? 1227 01:21:27,952 --> 01:21:32,266 All were amazed to see four small occupants 1228 01:21:32,301 --> 01:21:35,994 dressed in what looked like black diving suits. 1229 01:21:36,029 --> 01:21:39,825 Figures walking about on top, 1230 01:21:39,860 --> 01:21:43,622 and not the slightest noise whatsoever. 1231 01:21:43,657 --> 01:21:46,453 And so we waved. 1232 01:21:47,454 --> 01:21:48,834 Wouldn't it be wonderful 1233 01:21:48,869 --> 01:21:52,597 if we could get this object down onto the playing field? 1234 01:21:52,631 --> 01:21:54,737 And as we waved, 1235 01:21:54,771 --> 01:21:57,222 wondering whether we'd get some recognition 1236 01:21:57,257 --> 01:21:58,706 and whether, perhaps, 1237 01:21:58,741 --> 01:22:01,226 they would understand what we wanted, 1238 01:22:01,261 --> 01:22:04,057 they waved back. 1239 01:22:04,091 --> 01:22:06,956 The encounter lasted several hours 1240 01:22:06,991 --> 01:22:10,235 before the object abruptly departed. 1241 01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:13,929 There was this amazingly incredible speed 1242 01:22:13,963 --> 01:22:19,210 that the hovercraft disappeared to nothing 1243 01:22:19,244 --> 01:22:22,834 across the bay in a matter of a second or so. 1244 01:22:26,976 --> 01:22:28,840 In 1994, 1245 01:22:28,874 --> 01:22:31,981 three days of sightings across Zimbabwe 1246 01:22:32,016 --> 01:22:34,121 culminated in what some believe 1247 01:22:34,156 --> 01:22:36,848 is the most significant close encounter 1248 01:22:36,882 --> 01:22:38,815 in modern history. 1249 01:22:39,816 --> 01:22:42,198 Hundreds of people today phoned the ZBC 1250 01:22:42,233 --> 01:22:44,718 and BBC correspondent in Harare 1251 01:22:44,752 --> 01:22:50,172 saying they sighted an unidentified flying object last night. 1252 01:22:50,206 --> 01:22:52,381 We have some eyewitness reports. 1253 01:22:53,416 --> 01:22:55,142 It almost seemed to be under the cloud. 1254 01:22:55,177 --> 01:22:57,248 As it came past, I noticed there's no noise, 1255 01:22:57,282 --> 01:22:59,940 and that's when I thought, "Well, there's something very odd here." 1256 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:02,356 It was quite amazing. It was beautiful. 1257 01:23:02,391 --> 01:23:06,947 They are saying that Jesus is passing through Africa. 1258 01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:08,845 That's what they are saying. 1259 01:23:19,856 --> 01:23:22,756 We interviewed about 64 children 1260 01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:24,068 in front of the camera. 1261 01:23:24,102 --> 01:23:25,862 UFO story that happens... 1262 01:23:25,897 --> 01:23:28,900 Just say exactly what you want to say, okay? 1263 01:23:28,934 --> 01:23:32,214 Well, I was running and playing, 1264 01:23:32,248 --> 01:23:35,010 and then I saw this maroon colorin the sky. 1265 01:23:35,044 --> 01:23:36,252 Why don't we follow it? 1266 01:23:36,287 --> 01:23:39,600 We saw this, like, a silver thing down there. 1267 01:23:39,635 --> 01:23:42,051 It was a silver oval thing 1268 01:23:42,086 --> 01:23:44,640 that flew past really slowly. 1269 01:23:44,674 --> 01:23:48,092 I saw the bigger one and the spaceship, like, four or five of them. 1270 01:23:48,126 --> 01:23:50,025 It was red, green and yellow. 1271 01:23:50,059 --> 01:23:51,267 There was this big ship. 1272 01:23:51,302 --> 01:23:53,994 It had these lights, these patterns, and it flew. 1273 01:23:54,029 --> 01:23:56,755 I thought, "No, it's not a UFO." 1274 01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:58,550 And then I looked carefully at it, 1275 01:23:58,585 --> 01:23:59,586 and I thought, "Maybe." 1276 01:24:05,109 --> 01:24:06,834 Dozens of children said that 1277 01:24:06,869 --> 01:24:09,216 one or more of the disc-shaped objects 1278 01:24:09,251 --> 01:24:12,633 landed just beyond the far edge of their playground. 1279 01:24:15,671 --> 01:24:17,880 The next thing they knew, 1280 01:24:17,914 --> 01:24:20,641 something was standing next to it. 1281 01:24:24,369 --> 01:24:28,097 You saw him standing by the silver thing. 1282 01:24:28,132 --> 01:24:29,892 And he had big eyes. 1283 01:24:32,860 --> 01:24:36,657 He had a big head and big black eyes, 1284 01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:38,866 and was dressed in a black bodysuit. 1285 01:24:38,901 --> 01:24:40,661 They were wearing pure black. 1286 01:24:40,696 --> 01:24:44,596 And I came down and I saw the funny man with his eyes here, 1287 01:24:44,631 --> 01:24:45,942 and I saw a spaceship, 1288 01:24:45,977 --> 01:24:48,462 and there were a few little ones around it. 1289 01:24:54,572 --> 01:24:57,161 How far away were you when you saw him? 1290 01:24:57,195 --> 01:25:00,302 Not very far. Not very far. About a meter away. 1291 01:25:00,336 --> 01:25:02,442 - A meter away? That close? - Yes. 1292 01:25:05,445 --> 01:25:07,205 And how big was the figure? 1293 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,312 It was about as big as a grade six. 1294 01:25:10,346 --> 01:25:11,934 Yeah, it's there! 1295 01:25:11,968 --> 01:25:15,593 I believe that the children did see something. 1296 01:25:15,627 --> 01:25:20,253 I believe them because normally children don't lie. 1297 01:25:20,287 --> 01:25:22,772 I've always taught my children, "Seeing is believing." 1298 01:25:22,807 --> 01:25:24,912 Unfortunately, I didn't see. So... 1299 01:25:30,815 --> 01:25:32,095 This alleged encounter 1300 01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,543 caught the attention of Pulitzer Prize-winning 1301 01:25:34,577 --> 01:25:37,994 Harvard psychiatrist, Dr. John Mack. 1302 01:25:38,029 --> 01:25:39,720 It seemed that he was looking at all of us. 1303 01:25:39,755 --> 01:25:42,930 What did it feel like when he was looking at you? 1304 01:25:42,965 --> 01:25:44,449 It felt scared. 1305 01:25:44,484 --> 01:25:47,418 It felt scary? What was scary about it? 1306 01:25:48,488 --> 01:25:50,421 Well, felt scared 1307 01:25:50,455 --> 01:25:54,597 because I've never seen such a... person like that before. 1308 01:25:54,632 --> 01:25:58,946 And I saw this... person. 1309 01:25:58,981 --> 01:26:01,708 And it had big eyes. 1310 01:26:01,742 --> 01:26:04,193 That's all I saw about it. Big eyes. 1311 01:26:04,228 --> 01:26:07,472 - They had short legs and quite a long top. - Mmm-hmm. 1312 01:26:07,507 --> 01:26:09,198 With a big head 1313 01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:11,718 and eyes that are bigger than ours. 1314 01:26:11,752 --> 01:26:14,583 How much bigger than ours? 1315 01:26:14,617 --> 01:26:15,860 Four or five times the size. 1316 01:26:15,894 --> 01:26:18,449 Four or five times the size of ours? 1317 01:26:20,865 --> 01:26:22,222 And then I was looking at him, right? 1318 01:26:22,246 --> 01:26:24,075 - Yes. - Then he was looking at me back. 1319 01:26:24,109 --> 01:26:25,904 How can I just keep on looking at him? 1320 01:26:25,939 --> 01:26:28,148 So I had to stop and I looked sideways. 1321 01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:30,288 But I was looking straight into his eyes. 1322 01:26:30,323 --> 01:26:32,911 Well, he never said anything. 1323 01:26:32,946 --> 01:26:35,673 It's just the face and the eyes. 1324 01:26:35,707 --> 01:26:39,297 Maybe they're trying to communicate with us. 1325 01:26:39,332 --> 01:26:42,162 Show us something which we don't know about. 1326 01:26:42,197 --> 01:26:44,682 I think they want... Um... 1327 01:26:46,684 --> 01:26:48,444 people to know that 1328 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,999 we're actually making harm on this world, 1329 01:26:52,034 --> 01:26:54,243 and we mustn't get too technological. 1330 01:26:54,278 --> 01:26:56,521 We don't look after the planet. 1331 01:26:56,556 --> 01:27:01,146 All the trees will be cut down... 1332 01:27:01,181 --> 01:27:03,873 and there will be no air and people will be dying. 1333 01:27:03,908 --> 01:27:07,774 Is this an idea you have had before? 1334 01:27:07,808 --> 01:27:13,642 Or did this idea come to you when you had this experience? 1335 01:27:15,506 --> 01:27:18,888 - When I had this experience. - Mmm-hmm. 1336 01:27:18,923 --> 01:27:22,582 For the first time in nearly 20 years, the Ariel schoolchildren 1337 01:27:22,616 --> 01:27:26,102 gathered from the four corners of the world 1338 01:27:26,137 --> 01:27:27,518 to talk to each other 1339 01:27:27,552 --> 01:27:29,140 about the experience they shared 1340 01:27:29,174 --> 01:27:30,797 that September morning. 1341 01:27:30,831 --> 01:27:32,350 I remember something there... 1342 01:27:32,385 --> 01:27:35,388 One they all still struggle to understand. 1343 01:27:35,422 --> 01:27:37,286 You know that it's moving, but you... 1344 01:27:37,321 --> 01:27:39,392 - I - stand by what I saw. 1345 01:27:39,426 --> 01:27:44,155 There was no reason for any of us. 1346 01:27:44,189 --> 01:27:45,984 To make that up. 1347 01:27:46,019 --> 01:27:48,780 I've not spoken to anybody about it. 1348 01:27:48,815 --> 01:27:50,161 Not because I'm not proud of it, 1349 01:27:50,195 --> 01:27:53,682 but because I don't want the... The stigma. 1350 01:27:55,615 --> 01:27:57,306 So it's something that 1351 01:27:57,341 --> 01:28:01,828 I've had to deal with for 19-and-a-half years. 1352 01:28:03,381 --> 01:28:04,969 I don't wanna say I felt like I knew it, 1353 01:28:05,003 --> 01:28:07,454 - but I knew that I didn't have to be afraid of it. - Yeah. 1354 01:28:07,489 --> 01:28:10,146 They took us back to the moment of contact. 1355 01:28:10,181 --> 01:28:12,217 Exactly how I felt. Exactly... 1356 01:28:12,252 --> 01:28:15,428 The details still seared into memory. 1357 01:28:15,462 --> 01:28:19,017 I was with one of the other girls and saying to her, 1358 01:28:19,052 --> 01:28:21,157 "This is amazing." 1359 01:28:21,192 --> 01:28:24,160 We all were just stopped in our tracks. 1360 01:28:25,369 --> 01:28:28,682 A little man appeared. 1361 01:28:28,717 --> 01:28:30,477 On top of the actual craft. 1362 01:28:30,512 --> 01:28:33,342 And that moment, for me, was very distinct, 1363 01:28:33,377 --> 01:28:35,379 because I was like, "That's not human." 1364 01:28:35,413 --> 01:28:38,520 Well, I was just completely engulfed in these eyes. 1365 01:28:38,554 --> 01:28:41,523 The eyes, and in that moment, however long it was, 1366 01:28:41,557 --> 01:28:43,939 'cause I have no idea of the time frame, 1367 01:28:43,973 --> 01:28:45,458 it was just mesmerizing. 1368 01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:50,773 There was no talking. Um... It's all just images in the head. 1369 01:28:53,328 --> 01:28:55,330 Telepathic communication. 1370 01:28:56,365 --> 01:28:58,367 They were trying to communicate. 1371 01:28:58,402 --> 01:29:00,369 Trying to tell us something, 1372 01:29:00,404 --> 01:29:02,785 or something to do with the environment. 1373 01:29:02,820 --> 01:29:04,166 I kept getting these thoughts 1374 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,271 and ideas in my mind of technology. 1375 01:29:06,306 --> 01:29:09,171 Technology is not helping, technology is bad... 1376 01:29:12,312 --> 01:29:15,039 And we're going down a wrong path, 1377 01:29:15,073 --> 01:29:16,868 and we have to start recognizing that 1378 01:29:16,903 --> 01:29:19,802 what we're doing is detrimental and we need to make changes. 1379 01:29:19,837 --> 01:29:24,324 And I don't know what to do with that, or... 1380 01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:28,432 They were reaching out to us. 1381 01:29:28,466 --> 01:29:30,882 It was as if they wanted us to go with them. 1382 01:29:32,643 --> 01:29:35,231 At that moment, that was kind of 1383 01:29:35,266 --> 01:29:39,650 when I snapped right out of the trance. 1384 01:29:39,684 --> 01:29:44,240 As soon as I broke contact, all of those feelings, technology, the bad, 1385 01:29:44,275 --> 01:29:46,277 the horribleness that was happening 1386 01:29:46,311 --> 01:29:49,556 and going around my body at the time went. 1387 01:29:49,591 --> 01:29:52,145 It's making me a bit anxious being back here. 1388 01:29:52,179 --> 01:29:55,631 I can feel it right now. I was scared. 1389 01:29:56,563 --> 01:29:59,290 They came running up here in such a panic, 1390 01:29:59,324 --> 01:30:03,121 screaming, screaming... Ah! Then we were here. 1391 01:30:03,156 --> 01:30:04,537 And a child can't make that up. 1392 01:30:05,952 --> 01:30:08,171 So I was there when they were interviewing them 1393 01:30:08,195 --> 01:30:10,474 and saw the way they were. 1394 01:30:10,508 --> 01:30:13,511 It was just a huge, big mess and muddle-up 1395 01:30:13,546 --> 01:30:15,582 and just people everywhere. 1396 01:30:15,617 --> 01:30:18,205 Just ask them questions straight off 1397 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:19,586 without explaining to the children 1398 01:30:19,621 --> 01:30:22,209 what they were doing and why they were doing it. 1399 01:30:22,244 --> 01:30:23,521 It was chaos 1400 01:30:23,556 --> 01:30:26,593 in terms of the media frenzy that was going on, 1401 01:30:26,628 --> 01:30:30,010 and us being so young, and not even... 1402 01:30:31,460 --> 01:30:33,842 being allowed time to comprehend what we had seen. 1403 01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:37,259 Our teachers certainly didn't believe us. 1404 01:30:37,293 --> 01:30:38,467 So, that was a big deal, 1405 01:30:38,502 --> 01:30:40,469 'cause we had to continue going to school there. 1406 01:30:44,059 --> 01:30:47,131 We went back one last time to the Ariel School 1407 01:30:47,165 --> 01:30:48,650 to meet with Judy Bates, 1408 01:30:48,684 --> 01:30:51,066 a teacher at the time of the incident 1409 01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:53,344 and now the headmistress. 1410 01:30:53,378 --> 01:30:55,484 Something was weighing on her 1411 01:30:55,519 --> 01:30:58,383 that she wanted to tell the children. 1412 01:30:58,418 --> 01:31:00,006 Yeah, I said I wanted to apologize. 1413 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,629 I should have taken more notice. 1414 01:31:02,664 --> 01:31:06,461 But I didn't. I was more concerned about me and not them. 1415 01:31:06,495 --> 01:31:10,499 And what was going on in my own sort of experience. 1416 01:31:10,534 --> 01:31:12,743 Well, that's what... Yeah. 1417 01:31:16,056 --> 01:31:20,336 And if you could summarize in just one sentence 1418 01:31:20,371 --> 01:31:23,339 what took place September 1994 1419 01:31:23,374 --> 01:31:26,308 here at Ariel School, Ruwa, Zimbabwe, 1420 01:31:26,342 --> 01:31:28,275 what would you say? 1421 01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:31,002 Aliens visited us. 1422 01:31:31,037 --> 01:31:32,659 And that's about it, yeah. 1423 01:31:32,694 --> 01:31:34,454 That's why if you believe it, you believe it. 1424 01:31:34,489 --> 01:31:36,387 If you don't, well... 1425 01:31:40,736 --> 01:31:42,911 We find ourselves confronted with something 1426 01:31:42,945 --> 01:31:47,536 that challenges our very understanding of reality. 1427 01:31:47,571 --> 01:31:51,506 We may be sharing this fragile blue-green oasis 1428 01:31:51,540 --> 01:31:54,129 with an unknown other. 1429 01:31:54,163 --> 01:31:58,133 One with a mysterious relationship to humanity, 1430 01:31:58,167 --> 01:32:01,999 and its own interest in our world. 1431 01:32:03,207 --> 01:32:05,554 And if you saw him again, what would you do? 1432 01:32:05,589 --> 01:32:08,108 I'll ask him what is he doing on Earth, 1433 01:32:08,143 --> 01:32:10,110 and what does he want with us. 1434 01:33:45,861 --> 01:33:49,624 There were well-observed UFO cases, 1435 01:33:49,658 --> 01:33:53,144 just like modern cases, in the 18th century. 1436 01:33:53,179 --> 01:33:54,870 In the 17th century. 1437 01:33:54,905 --> 01:33:55,940 There was science. 1438 01:33:55,975 --> 01:33:58,702 There were astronomers, they had telescopes, 1439 01:33:58,736 --> 01:34:01,118 and they were very good observers 1440 01:34:01,152 --> 01:34:04,742 because their life depended on being good observers. 1441 01:34:04,777 --> 01:34:07,814 And these observations come from all over the world. 1442 01:34:09,298 --> 01:34:11,128 They just have been forgotten. 1443 01:34:37,672 --> 01:34:42,607 I like to think of anomalies, mysteries, as opportunities, 1444 01:34:42,642 --> 01:34:44,920 and we'll go after those mysteries, 1445 01:34:44,955 --> 01:34:47,889 take the torch away from the campfire, 1446 01:34:47,923 --> 01:34:50,823 and out of the cave, into the darkness 1447 01:34:50,857 --> 01:34:53,239 and make some amazing discoveries. 1448 01:35:15,468 --> 01:35:19,644 The UFO phenomenon as studied by my colleagues and myself, 1449 01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:22,993 bespeaks the action of some form of intelligence. 1450 01:36:00,375 --> 01:36:03,240 These objects gave the impression 1451 01:36:03,274 --> 01:36:05,276 that they wanted to be seen... 1452 01:36:06,484 --> 01:36:09,556 with these enormous spotlights. 1453 01:36:09,591 --> 01:36:12,939 There was no way that they were trying to hide. 1454 01:36:12,974 --> 01:36:15,804 So why? That is the main question. 1455 01:36:15,839 --> 01:36:19,152 Why do these objects want to be seen? 1456 01:36:40,553 --> 01:36:43,590 Later on, I was so sorry 1457 01:36:43,625 --> 01:36:47,836 that why I did not call on the radio. 1458 01:36:47,871 --> 01:36:51,012 Ask them, "Who are you? 1459 01:36:51,046 --> 01:36:55,844 "Please, make communication with us." 1460 01:37:12,896 --> 01:37:15,484 I figure if they're smart enough and capable enough 1461 01:37:15,519 --> 01:37:17,866 to come into our airspace 1462 01:37:17,901 --> 01:37:19,557 with the technology that they have, 1463 01:37:19,592 --> 01:37:22,422 if they wanted to do us in, they could have done us in a long time ago. 1464 01:37:22,457 --> 01:37:25,011 So, I'm not fearful of this at all. 1465 01:38:35,979 --> 01:38:37,877 Every once in a while one of them goes, zip! 1466 01:38:37,912 --> 01:38:39,396 It went like a bat out of hell. 1467 01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:42,226 Jumped about ten degrees to the right. Just like this. 1468 01:38:42,261 --> 01:38:45,609 I've never seen anything go so fast in my life as that thing went. 1469 01:38:45,643 --> 01:38:49,130 Incredible speed. Disappeared to nothing. 1470 01:38:49,164 --> 01:38:52,754 And just went, zoom, straight up so fast. 1471 01:38:52,788 --> 01:38:54,618 It's like it had been shot out of a gun. Wham! 1472 01:38:54,652 --> 01:38:56,827 Now you see it, now you don't. It just... 1473 01:38:56,861 --> 01:38:58,518 But it just was, poof! 1474 01:38:58,542 --> 01:39:00,542 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 124976

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