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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,515 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,709 -I see dead people, 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,639 s 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,991 - The one monster that's in every culture, 5 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,395 no matter how sophisticated or primitive 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,999 all around the world, and that's ghosts. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,031 - Do you believe in ghosts? 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,519 -[roaring, groans] 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,358 - With "Poltergeist," what you get is, 10 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,835 you get the most thoughtful, 11 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,871 most thought-out, 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,715 most fun haunted house movie that's ever been made. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,152 -"The Shining." 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,237 I mean, that is the ultimate ghost story, is "The Shining." 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,874 -Here's Johnny. *[gasps] 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,672 -I was struck most viscerally 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,836 by the performance of Jack Nicholson. 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,359 -l'm not gonna hurt you. 19 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,755 l'm just gonna bash your brains. 20 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:48,914 -Ah! 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,519 - "The Sixth Sense” is masterful 22 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,836 in that it really plays with the ghost story 23 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,030 in à very new way. -Ah! 24 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,230 - He sees ghosts and spirits. 25 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,873 Stop looking at me. 26 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,514 People walking around in their day-to-day life. 27 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,790 [crashing] 28 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,391 - What "Insidious” has brought to the genre is a humanity 29 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,238 which l'm not sure has been in many 30 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,510 of the spooky movies we've seen. 31 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,396 "The Ring" was one of those movies 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,351 that [ could not sleep 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,677 for days after 1 saw that movie. 34 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,678 [gunshot] 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,597 - Ghost stories are always about the way 36 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,439 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,278 - [shrieks] 38 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,960 - They make us question, is there something else? 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,231 Am I gonna wind up in limbo? Am I gonna wind up in heaven? 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,510 Or hell? 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,071 «Totally getting goose bumps talking about this. 42 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,440 - [screams] 43 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,074 [spooky music] 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,397 s 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,714 [chainsaw revs] 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,712 [ominous music] 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,114 -lt's coming toward us. 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,549 - Vampires, werewolves, zombies, 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,479 People don't really believe that stuff is real. 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,354 But ghosts, you ask 99% of the people, 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,960 they're like 100% certain that they have seen a ghost. 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,718 - [screams] 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,837 - That there are ghosts, that they experienced ghosts. 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,235 There are ghosts in the house. 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,078 -Oht 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,999 -I mean, the ghost subgenre-- Imean, I think that's why 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,077 it just--it literally never dies. 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,872 s 59 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:50,593 Ghost movies have been with us 60 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,631 since the dawn of cinema. 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,877 The first horror film, 'La Manoir du Diable," 62 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,993 from 1896, was a ghost story. 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,830 But until the 1980s, spirits Were rarely seen onscreen. 64 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,838 And if they were, they were rarely convincing. 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,838 That all changed with "Poltergeist." 66 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,316 - They're here. 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,955 -Well, "Poltergeist" was one of the first scary movies 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,230 that [ can remember seeing as a kid. 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,430 I was truly terrified by that movie 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,111 and I-l'm still to this day terrified of ghosts. 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,800 -I was still à child when I saw it. 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,399 1 really connected to that story, 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,074 the magical of uncertainty 74 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,397 of the afterlife and--and spirits. 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,390 -"Poltergeist" is a haunted house movie 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,999 that took place in the suburbs, 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,077 that was in the least scary place possible, 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,878 -l'm out of here. -Bye. 79 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,833 -The family lives in the San Fernando Valley, 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,235 that gets plagued by spirits 81 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,797 because of the area where they live was built on à graveyard 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,917 that is getting back at ‘em. 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,156 - Don't worry about it, After all, 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,760 it's not ancient tribal burial ground, 85 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,711 it's just. people. 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,832 -"Poltergeist" is a really fascinating one for me. 87 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,235 It's like taking sort of, almost like, 88 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,556 decades of horror filmmaking, 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,195 and constructing it into, like, this pure rollercoaster. 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,356 «No [screams]. -[roars] 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,114 - Took the director of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,310 the director of "Jaws," "'Raiders of the Lost Ark," 93 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,034 that was the biggest horror event 94 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,753 of my childhood, that movie. 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,552 - And this stuff all works as long as the audience 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,750 can find some logic for it. 97 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:42,799 - Steven just brings this enthusiasm and this energy 98 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,478 to the thing. 99 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,194 And then Tobe is, like, figuring out the logistics 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,120 and--and how the shof's gonna look and all of that. 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,800 - What happens to that family is so Tobe. 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,752 - Before, after, before, after, before. 103 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,393 - [laughing] Let me see your tuck position. 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,398 -The important thing was the kinetic family, 105 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,558 and the cohesiveness, and keeping it light, 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,750 until it starts getting heavy. 107 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:16,831 the tremendous guilt and shame we feel 108 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,871 about leaving our children in front of the TV, 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,351 - That scene where the little girl is standing in front 110 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,874 of the, uh--the television, 111 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,276 and it reaches out to molest her. 112 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,958 s 113 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,389 -Kind of a dawning realization that we might be 114 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,869 sacrificing our--our children 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,594 in front of, Uh, this glowing screen. 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,433 «think what Steven and his collaborators predicted 117 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,030 with "Poltergeist" is-is true. 118 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,993 We've all fallen into our television. 119 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,356 - [yelps] -Mommy. 120 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,040 1 can't see you, Mommy. 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,832 Where are you? 122 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,196 - Their young daughter gets trapped 123 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,197 between this world and the next. 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,358 - Your daughter is alive and in this house. 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,720 - During the course ofthe film, 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,957 the mother literally goes to hell 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,516 to rescue her daughter from the beast. 128 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,834 -[roars] 129 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,757 - [screams] 130 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,837 [whooshing] 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,759 [suspenseful music] 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,991 -Pull. 133 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,190 - Phew! Great. - Real nice. 134 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,471 -The good fortune of “Poltergeist”" was that 135 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,239 it did have the budget to allow 136 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,716 the filmmakers to express their imagination on film. 137 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,956 - À spirit coming down the stairs for the first time. 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,719 Feeling of the--of the body and the arms coming up. 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,598 Just when we begin to see the fingers, 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,551 it goes whoosh, 141 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,150 breaks up like blowing a smoke ring apart in the air. 142 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,272 -Anything that Tobe and Steven could think of 143 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,073 that belonged in the movie was in the movie. 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,471 both: [screaming] 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,558 - But there's no CGI in "Poltergeist." 146 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,876 - [whimpering] 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,558 [grunts] 148 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,639 God. The face-tearing scene, 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,560 that whole sequence you can see the three pieces. 150 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,319 There's me with the little scratches. 151 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,397 [ominous music] 152 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,115 Then there's me with this giant prosthetic on my face 153 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,278 that I pull off and pull strips of it off, 154 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,711 and then there's this really cool dummy 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,751 that looks like me, which is actually 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,996 this dummy with Steven Spielberg's hands underneath 157 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,873 pulling all this gunk off. 158 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,279 When they showed it to me the first time, 159 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,152 l just burst out laughing, and the--the-- 160 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,918 one of the sound designers said, "What's so funny?" 161 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,110 And I said, "Everyone's gonna remember this scene. 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 "1 just pulled my face off and it fell in the sink." 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,717 [whooshing] 164 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,239 - [laughs] 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,998 - All sorts of different effects. 166 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,431 Opticals, forced perspective sets, 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,313 contrazoom when JoBeth Williams is running down the corridor, 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,273 and also, brillant practical effects. 169 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,039 [lighting roars] 170 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,515 - Oh, yeah, boy, that tree. 171 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,358 s 172 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,631 Steven had this image, ‘cause when he was à kid, 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,717 there was a tree outside his bedroom window 174 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,034 that scared the crap out of him, 175 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,913 and so that tree had to be there. 176 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,031 It was a rubber tree. For some reason, 177 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,037 they put these, like, knobs in there, 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,957 These little prickly things. 179 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,991 Well, obviously, the tree, kind of climb up, 180 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,951 and kind of, um, like, 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,469 scratching you and pouring rain 182 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,750 and you got the wind machines and the lightning 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,518 and--[snorts] 184 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,836 things are going off, and l'm going, Jeez. 185 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,672 - Look out. -My leg! 186 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,155 -Forme, the tree coming alive, 187 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,477 uh, was very vivid and visceral, 188 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,750 and so every time I sort of looked out the window, 189 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,996 and the moonlight was just so, 190 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,111 I would constantly picture that tree. 191 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,470 -I'm still pissed off about the tree. 192 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,431 That tree was the hardest thing to deal with 193 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,120 in the whole movie. 194 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,753 Except for the pool. 195 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,758 -My God. [breathes heavily] 196 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,191 The swimming pool. 197 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,151 Be careful, honey. 198 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,793 - Craig Raiche, the prop guy, 199 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,719 stashed all these skeletons all over the place. 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,637 [dramatic musical flourish] 201 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:31,639 - [screams] 202 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,432 -We did a take and went to Craig and I says, 203 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,993 ‘'Hey, Craig," I s--you know, 204 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,190 ‘'you don't need to make them smell like this." 205 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,436 You know, they--they smelled. 206 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,393 Andhe says, “Well, they're real.” 207 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,717 - [whimpering, panting] 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,319 -I mean, it's a joke now, 209 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,112 of something was on an Indian burial ground 210 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,117 and so you know its gonna be haunted. 211 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,437 And in "Poltergeist," the great line at the end of the movie 212 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,558 and shakes him and says. 213 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,716 - You son of à bitch, you moved the cemetery 214 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,717 but you left the bodies, didn't you? 215 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,036 You son of the bitch, you left the bodies 216 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,037 and you only moved the headstones! 217 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,799 You only moved the headstones. 218 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,673 -And I think, in à way, that says a lot about America, 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,439 that we, uh--we moved the headstones. 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,198 But the bodies are still there. 221 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,993 - The spirit of "Poltergeist" 222 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,554 lives on in the "Insidious" series, 223 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,559 which shows us an afterlife filled with restless souls. 224 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,273 Some friendly. 225 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,958 Some deadly. 226 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,399 [thump, rattling] 227 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,836 - Slow down. 228 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,917 - James Wan's film “Insidious” is a ghost story 229 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,553 for the 21st century. 230 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,558 It delivers shocks, suspense, 231 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,477 and genuine emotion to audiences 232 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,033 that may think they've seen it all. 233 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,310 - [whispering] Give ît, give me. 234 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,034 1 want it. lwant it 235 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,434 [screaming] now! 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,312 [baby erying] 237 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,715 [suspenseful music] 238 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,512 -lt's a fun thing to mess with, 239 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,871 that suburban domestic bliss that's supposed to exist. 240 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,399 - Can you go wake up Dalton? 241 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,999 -lt's a fun thing to get in there 242 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,873 and rip that domestic bliss away from a family. 243 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,831 - Dalton, Dalton. 244 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,393 Dalton. 245 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,431 - There is no brain damage. 246 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,838 -"Insidious” is about à, uh, mother and à father 247 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,156 who lose their child 248 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,794 to à place called "The Further." 249 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:27,875 [ominous music] 250 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,877 - What does that mean? 251 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,390 - The Further is à world far beyond our own. 252 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,319 It's a dark realm filled with the tortured souls 253 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,078 of the dead. 254 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,795 A place not meant for the living. 255 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,558 - And all these ghosts that are crowding 256 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,069 in this family's house are trying to get into his body. 257 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,440 It's an empty vessel. 258 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,916 «And they do everything in their power 259 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,951 to try and get their child back. 260 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,196 And that's really about what you would do as a parent 261 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,516 if you--if you lost your child, 262 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,119 or if your child got sick. 263 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,639 [baby erying] [dramatic musical flourish] 264 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:02,956 « [screams] Josh, Josh, Josh, please, come. 265 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,877 «Twenty minutes into the movie, 266 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,558 when just as the audience is saying, 267 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Why on Earth would you not get out of this house, 268 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,874 the, uh--Patrick Wilson says to Rose Byrne's character. 269 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,672 -We're going. 270 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,155 - And they move houses. 271 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,032 [foreboding music] 272 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,278 And the haunting follows them to their next house. 273 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,640 [doors slam] *[gasps] 274 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,075 - [giggling] 275 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,396 -lts not the house that's haunted. 276 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,829 s 277 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,518 Is your son. 278 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,559 - So it doesn't matter where they move, 279 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,079 they're gonna be--they're gonna be haunted 280 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,191 no matter where they are. 281 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,359 [dramatic thump] 282 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,835 - So they call upon my character, Elise Rainier, 283 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,074 think Elise is distinct and unusual in the sense 284 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,397 that, um, l'm not a typical heroine. 285 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:03,353 [dramatic musical flourish] 286 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,834 - [wheezing] 287 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,757 This is how you die. 288 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,474 - Not today it isn't. 289 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,676 [thump] [grunts] 290 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,075 [whooshing] 291 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,469 Come on, bitch. 292 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,113 s 293 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,750 What I tried to do was find the places in myself 294 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,758 of empathy, of reception. 295 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,791 Elise is a really good receiver. 296 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,513 She's got à good radio. 297 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,791 We have some help. 298 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,156 - Who? 299 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,352 - Someone else is here with us. 300 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,155 -Mom. 301 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,191 «You know, she's tuned in, And I believe all people 302 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,913 have that ability. 303 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,351 I don't think it--it's just, uh, assigned to a few. 304 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 But we're ful-- so full of static 305 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,516 that I think we don't hear very often at all. 306 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,473 We don't hear each other, let alone another world. 307 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,511 [whooshing] 308 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,152 -The first "Insidious” score was a really great experience 309 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,874 beca--it was--it was-- it's a very pure, 310 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,191 very raw filmmaking experience all around. 311 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,193 both: [grunting] 312 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,436 - My friend found this rusted out piano, 313 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 and you flick a string, and just this--just-- 314 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,072 eons of just crud come flying off of it. 315 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,997 It had been abandoned in the alley behind his studio 316 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,360 for some time and they dragged it in there 317 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,232 and I got to go in and record on it. 318 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,032 [rusted piano crash] 319 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,799 So that made up a big part of the sound of that film. 320 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,239 -We were so thankful when ‘'Insidious” was a hit film 321 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,954 and people really took to it, - [screams] 322 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,718 - Death is the one inevitable thing. 323 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,398 It's coming for all of us. 324 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,909 There's à human need to answer that question 325 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,559 of like after death, and I think 326 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,638 ghost films feed into that. 327 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,432 «There's very little we really know 328 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,551 about the spirit world, ifthere-- 329 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,273 whether you believe initor not. 330 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,118 Itend to believe in everything 331 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,278 because I think we know so little about so much. 332 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,834 all: [screaming, groaning] 333 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,394 - [whimpering] 334 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,993 [sheet ripping] 335 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,633 - [gasps] 336 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,591 -The "Insidious” series and "Poltergeist” 337 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,951 showed us normal families bonded by à love 338 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,311 strong enough to survive a supernatural attack. 339 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,115 But one of the greatest film directors of all time, 340 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,073 painted a much darker picture of parenthood 341 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,918 and the afterlife. 342 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,951 - The haunted house is a staple of horror films. 343 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,832 It's usually a sinister mansion 344 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,757 where murders have been committed. 345 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,359 Or about to be committed. 346 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,233 - This house, 347 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,396 it knows we're here. 348 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,795 - Two haunted house movies loom above the rest. 349 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,274 [suspenseful music] 350 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,118 Stanley Kubrick's "The Shining," 351 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,834 and Robert Wise's “The Haunting." 352 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,598 s 353 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,039 - Usually ghost stories work when it's about 354 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,912 what you don't see. 355 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,474 And so that's, in a way, why I probably separated out 356 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,911 what is my absolute favorite horror movie of all time, 357 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,429 um, which is "The Haunting." 358 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,551 -No one who rented Hill House 359 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,114 ever stayed for more than a few days. 360 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,071 -l just think that's the ultimate horror movie. 361 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,078 - The dead are not quiet in Hill House. 362 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,113 “The Haunting" is about a group of people 363 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,596 who are brought together in this old, dark house 364 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,758 to try to find out what's at the root 365 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,474 of supernatural spirits. 366 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,751 -The house is calling you. 367 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,791 -lt's also about a woman 368 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,834 who has had a very troubled relationship with her mother, 369 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,919 and who goes away to be à part of this experience. 370 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,952 -Don't let me go. Stay with me. 371 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,958 -"The Haunting" works so well because we don't see anything. 372 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,594 - [indistinet speech] 373 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,950 -We don't see the ghosts at work. 374 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,640 We sense, we hear them. 375 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,911 - [indistinct speech] -Are you awake? 376 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,395 Don't say a word, Theo, not a word. 377 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,431 Don't let it know you're in my room. 378 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,075 «We are given complete freedom in our minds 379 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:27,316 to wander through the house. 380 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,078 - [gasps] 381 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,714 - And it is one of the most terrifying films 382 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,354 because of Wise's instinct 383 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,234 to focus on the faces of those being terrified, 384 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,556 because that is what you're relating to 385 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,352 not the ghosts. 386 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,232 - Oh, God, no, 387 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,636 « The first movie that terrified me to the point 388 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,354 where I could barely look at it was "The Haunting." 389 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,596 1 was probably 11 years old, 390 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,631 and you never really see anything 391 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,836 until that woman-- - When that door is pounding. 392 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,156 [door pounding] 393 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,192 - The door kind of bulges. 394 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,279 And finally, she's going up this rattly, 395 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,473 and the trap door opens and it's the professor's wife, 396 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,352 and she goes, “Ahl” 397 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,279 -Ah! 398 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,357 «And l'm thinking, l'm dead. [chuckles] 399 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,718 - Of course, Stephen King did grow up. 400 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,354 And 17 years later, his second novel 401 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,710 "The Shining" was adapted for the screen 402 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,316 by the legendary director Stanley Kubrick. 403 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,829 Like "The Haunting," "The Shining" is about 404 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,837 à bad place. -[screams] 405 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,757 - And the terrible effect ithas 406 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,878 on the people who stay there. 407 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,514 Jack Nicholson plays Jack Torrance, 408 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,235 an unstable writer who takes the job of winter caretaker 409 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,510 atthe secluded Overlook Hotel. 410 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,119 [heart beating] 411 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,071 -s there something bad here? 412 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:03,397 - Well... 413 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,875 you know, Doc, when something happens, 414 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,276 it can leave a frace of itself behind. 415 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,632 Things that people who "shine" can see. 416 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,116 - Jack and his son Danny have a psychic gift. 417 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,993 À shining that lets them see the ghosts 418 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,554 of the murdered people atthe Overlook. 419 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,035 Those ghosts terrorize Danny, 420 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,879 while they slowly drive Jack insane. 421 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,911 - [guffaws] 422 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,951 - Jack Torrance, he's an alcoholic. 423 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,550 He doesn't know how to control it. 424 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,638 And he blames his son and his wife 425 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,751 for his artistic impotence. 426 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,837 «Whenever you come in here and interrupt me 427 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,757 you're breaking my concentration. 428 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,792 You're distracting me. And it will then take me time 429 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,990 to get back to where I was. 430 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,111 - There's something about this hotel that just wants 431 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,198 the people who go there to murder each other. 432 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,516 - Come and play with us, Danny. 433 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,915 [ominous music] 434 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,998 Forever. 435 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,158 And ever. 436 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,316 And ever. 437 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,239 "The Shining" is filled with the kind of iconic scenes 438 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,318 you'd expect from one of history's greatest directors. 439 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:17,193 But Kubrick made many changes to King's story 440 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,117 that didn't sit well with its author. 441 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,754 -I can enjoy it on the same level that you could enjoy 442 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,269 a beautifully restored Cadillac without a motor in it. 443 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,833 - [laughs] - You know? 444 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,269 My rap about it is there's no character arc. 445 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,472 In the book, Jack Torrance goes from a nice guy 446 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,400 who's trying to get better for his family and for himself. 447 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,592 And I felt like Jack Nicholson 448 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,393 played Jack Torrance as though he were crazy from the-- 449 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,794 - Crazy from minute one. 450 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,196 - That is, uh, quite a story. 451 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,117 «Talking with Mr. Ullman in the office, 452 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,436 and Ullman saying this and that and Jack's going, 453 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,278 "Yes," -[laughs] 454 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,277 -"Absolutely, Mr. Ullman.” 455 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,960 -Well, you can rest assured, Mr. Ullman, 456 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,514 that's not gonna happen with me. 457 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 à pretty strong, scary, 458 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,150 suspense, horror novel 459 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,510 and turned it into an art film. 460 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,198 - [think Kubrick was doing-- 461 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,675 was trying to make an anti-horror movie. 462 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,030 He was intentionally going against the grain 463 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,037 of the horror tropes. 464 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 You think you know how horror is made, 465 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,991 well, l'm showing you how I do it. 466 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,509 - Counter to convention in "The Shining” 467 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,712 is the brightness of the lighting style. 468 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,479 And he's almost always on really wide lenses. 469 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,551 ‘Cause he doesn't do that kind of horror, 470 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,551 people don't pop out, you know, 471 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,274 and stab you or whatever. 472 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,277 It's much more psychological, 473 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,670 so it works for what he's doing. 474 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,154 It's even creepier. 475 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,350 [dramatic musical flourish] 476 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,232 « So much of the movie is from the perspective 477 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,554 of whatever character you're with, 478 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,830 so for Danny, it's one thing, 479 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,759 for Jack Nicholson's character it's this sort of unseen menace 480 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,393 that sort of takes him over, and Shelley Duvall, 481 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,272 so she's a-- a ghost story freak, 482 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,038 and it's like, so in her mind 483 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,310 the horror takes on this cheesier form. 484 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,271 Andiit's like, Oh--it's just, everybo-it's all from 485 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,233 subjective perspective, which just makes it all the creepier. 486 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,429 [tense music] 487 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,915 - Family is a great source 488 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,871 for horror storytelling 489 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,433 because family is very intimate, 490 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,835 family is very close to us, 491 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,475 and family is very dangerous, if you're in the wrong family. 492 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,716 -Here's Johnny. *[gasps] 493 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,752 - The Overlook Hotel and this trauma-filled family, 494 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,269 they just go together so well. 495 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,836 It's a perfect location for them to fall apart, 496 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,156 -Danny! 497 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,635 -And that's often the case in--in haunted house movies, 498 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,796 in movies about ghosts. People who are traumatized 499 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,353 end up there for one reason or another, 500 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,755 and the house is just like, Yes. 501 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,919 This is a person that's ready to be affected and impacted 502 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,236 by unspoken darkness. 503 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,351 -"The Shining" featured à boy who could see 504 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,914 the malevolent spirits of the dead. 505 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,190 Two decades later, "The Sixth Sense" 506 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,949 told the story of another haunted child. 507 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,118 This time by ghosts who were desperate for help. 508 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,595 [gagging] 509 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,194 - [whispering] 1 see dead people. 510 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,517 - Dead people, like, in graves? In coffins? 511 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,073 [tense music] 512 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,192 - Walking around like regular people. 513 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,311 - There are many different ways that you can tell à story 514 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:24,078 within the context of a horror movie. 515 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,350 And there's high-brow and low-brow, like, you know, 516 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,518 there are many colors to the spectrum of horror. 517 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,598 - Cole, you're scaring me. 518 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,672 - They scare me too sometimes. 519 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,199 - They? 520 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,800 [suspenseful music] 521 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,035 s 522 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,435 - Ghosts. 523 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,993 - Supernatural thriller. 524 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,758 That was what they called "The Sixth Sense." 525 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,950 And there were orders not to call it a horror film. 526 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,516 One of the scariest, most brilliant films ever made, 527 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,597 and they said, “Don't call it a horror movie.” 528 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,756 It was like “horror” was a dirty word. 529 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,518 -l'Il show you where my dad keeps his gun. 530 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,755 Come on. 531 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,230 - Cole Sear is a eight-year-old boy 532 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,352 living in Philadelphia, uh, with a young, single mom. 533 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,232 He's à very troubled and disturbed boy. 534 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,319 And he runs into a child psychologist. 535 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,478 - Think about what you wanna get out of our time together. 536 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,318 What our goal should be. 537 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,714 -Instead of something I want, 538 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,831 can it be something 1 don't want? 539 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,077 And he tries to treat Cole, and tries to help him, 540 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,111 and he ends up finding out that Cole 541 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,551 believes that he sees ghosts and spirits 542 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,194 of people walking around in day to day life. 543 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,151 And they even come into his home. 544 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,430 Mama. 545 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,155 - No, dinner is not ready. 546 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,758 - What's great is that when somebody like 547 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,235 M. Night Shyamalan comes along with "The Sixth Sense," 548 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,112 he has the confidence to slow it down 549 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,800 and make it intimate, and make it about the performances, 550 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,798 and make you completely invested in the premise. 551 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,077 - "The Sixth Sense” was deeply soulful. 552 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,919 The purpose of all the ghosts, it's all about, like, 553 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,600 resolving your human relationships, 554 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,758 which is actually more scary than a ghost. 555 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,872 [laughs] 556 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,390 It was perfectly cast as well. It was, like, 557 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,353 an awesome, different thing for Bruce Willis at the time. 558 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,631 -I can't be your doctor anymore. 559 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,069 lhaven't paid enough attention to my family. 560 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,112 - Poor Haley Joel Osment was fantastic, 561 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,993 who had this most expressive face 562 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,190 and pain and loneliness 563 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,837 that's expressed so well that he feels 40 years old 564 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,518 rather than 10 years old. 565 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,392 - You believe me, right? 566 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,592 «Haley Joel Osment is from another planet in that movie. 567 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,235 - And you're so drawn to--to Haley Joel Osment 568 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,636 that you can't help but-- but sympathize for the people 569 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320 that have died through him. 570 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:55,759 [dramatic musical flourish] 571 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,552 - That shoot was sort of my education 572 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,318 into à lot of horror films, 573 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,038 because we were watching a lot ofthings to see 574 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,509 good examples of people in frightening situations. 575 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,676 "Cause at like 10 years old, you havent really had 576 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,597 à whole lot of traumatizing experiences 577 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,678 most of the time. 578 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,119 - What is it? What...? 579 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,834 - [whispering] Why did you leave me? 580 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,109 [ominous music] 581 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,639 -I didn't leave you. 582 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,679 [object clinks, rolls] 583 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,791 - I did not see the twist coming in that film. 584 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,513 I was so scared. - No, and anybody-- 585 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,551 by the way, anybody that tells you they guessed it, 586 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,671 they're so full of it. -Iso didn't. 587 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,074 - Nobody gets is. - Did you guess it? 588 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,872 -No-- - Oh, good, I was gonna say-- 589 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,196 -I can't even guess the ending of a "Murder, She Wrote," 590 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,918 let alone "The Sixth Sense." [laughter] 591 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,394 - [whispering] Anna. 592 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,238 [solemn music] 593 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,112 - Happy anniversary. 594 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,197 -lt's a frightening movie, 595 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,516 but the fear doesn't come from ghosts. 596 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,233 It comes from people being afraid that, uh, 597 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,191 they won't be able to communicate with each other. 598 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,629 So the movie is--communication is the real theme of the movie. 599 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,797 - What do you think they want? 600 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,114 -Just help. 601 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,039 «That's right. That's what I think too. 602 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,754 They just want help, even the scary ones. 603 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,074 [suspenseful music] 604 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,191 -Ah! [panting] 605 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,519 s 606 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,633 What sets Cole free from his situation 607 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,830 is when he finally figures out that he has to be a conduit 608 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,349 between people who still need to, uh, 609 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,720 communicate with each other. 610 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,593 Grandma says hi. 611 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,270 And even though Night does some amazing things 612 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,152 that really makes you jump and--and create 613 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,634 some really frightening cireumstances, 614 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,717 1 think what makes the movie endure 615 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,990 is that anybody can identify with that sort of desire 616 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,509 of saying things to people that you never got to say. 617 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,597 She said 618 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,200 you came to the place where they buried her, 619 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,198 [stirring music] 620 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,754 asked her à question. 621 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,760 She said the answer is. 622 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,791 every day. 623 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,311 - The theme of ghosts looking to the living 624 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,397 to solve unfinished business 625 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,954 didn't start with "The Sixth Sense." 626 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,150 Some of the greatest ghost stories of all time, 627 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,918 old and new, 628 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,469 are murder mysteries the dead want us to solve. 629 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,234 [foreboding music] 630 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,839 s 631 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,076 - She's mad, - Ghosts can be terrifying. 632 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,758 «[screeches] - [screams] 633 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,030 «But in some films, the spirits of the dead 634 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,072 aren't trying to torment the living. 635 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,634 They're victims of terrible crimes, 636 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,672 looking for justice. 637 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,439 « [screeching] - [screams] 638 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,632 - Perhaps the greatest ghost mystery movie of all time 639 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,353 is "The Changeling." 640 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,118 It's not as famous as “The Shining” 641 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,673 or "Poltergeist." 642 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,677 But it deserves to be. 643 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,870 [suspenseful music] 644 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,797 -"The Changeling”" is one of the best 645 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,354 American ghost stories put on film. 646 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,155 Very powerful. And George C. Scott is terrific. 647 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,272 - George C. Scott plays a composer 648 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,913 who is dealing with the death 649 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,270 of his young daughter and wife 650 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,994 in à tragic car accident. 651 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,114 - George C. Scott winds up moving 652 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,596 to a vast, crumbling mansion 653 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,631 that hasn't been inhabited in years. 654 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,432 -And he's trying to shake himself 655 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,915 of his memory of his daughter. 656 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,554 - And then over the course of his stay, 657 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,750 he starts to notice something 658 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,757 trying to communicate with him. 659 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,395 At first, it's really subtle things like a piano note 660 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,919 playing itself. 661 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,315 [piano note rings] 662 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,034 It escalates into pounding noises. 663 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,151 [pounding] 664 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,717 And so he starts to realize 665 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,080 that there's something in the house 666 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,238 that's trying to connect to him. 667 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,635 -"The Changeling” feels very real. 668 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,432 1 think that's why I love it so much. 669 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,199 The way it handles the paranormal 670 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880 is very simple and effective. 671 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,595 [pounding continues] 672 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,916 -lts the first movie that, um, 673 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,476 made a bouncing ball absolutely terrifying. 674 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,229 [ball thumping] 675 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,953 « So the ball comes thump, thump, 676 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,276 thumping down the stairs, 677 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,391 and George C. Scott is freaked out, 678 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,034 and he says, Enough of that, and he--he takes the ball 679 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,878 to the nearest bridge, 680 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,914 and he drops it 70 feet down into the--the river. 681 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,918 [ominous orchestral music] 682 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,917 And he drives home and he thinks, Phew, 683 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,553 that's over with. 684 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,079 And he walks in through the front door and... 685 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,877 You know, it makes my skin crawl just to think about it. 686 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,196 Love that. - What is your name? 687 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,277 s 688 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,674 « [whispering] Joseph. 689 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,994 -lt's the ghost of a young boy 690 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,917 who was murdered in the house. 691 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,554 - What is your name? 692 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,669 « George C. Scott understands that the specter of this child 693 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,313 has something to communicate, 694 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,317 and he's afraid of it, and he's afraid 695 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,397 of what it will do, but he's also curious 696 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,193 and wants to help it, because of his own loss. 697 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,230 - There's something about heartbreak and horror 698 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,794 that go hand in hand. 699 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,717 When you've lost a child, 700 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,276 it's something so deep and so painful 701 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,154 that it either closes you off completely, 702 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,511 or it opens you up to other experience. 703 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,551 -What is it doing? Why is it trying to reach me? 704 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,319 - John. -Is it because of my daughter? 705 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,798 I can't go through all this again. 706 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,753 -Ithink a lot of ghost stories are about wrestling 707 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,711 with the idea of loss, -[sobbing] 708 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640 -Trying to make sense of the death of loved ones 709 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,830 and--and what that means. 710 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,598 What happens to us when we're gone? 711 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,076 -If any of us were forced to linger behind, 712 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,680 uh, on this plane, inthe afterlife, 713 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,599 it's probably because there's some unfinished business. 714 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,075 [tense music] 715 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,837 And "The Changeling” was the first time I got exposed 716 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,436 the living [bleep] out of you like they did in "The Shining," 717 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,471 but that they actually wanted help. 718 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,511 They needed someone on the mortal plane 719 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,880 to actually help them. 720 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,117 - What do you want from me? 721 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,912 l've done everything I can do. 722 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,270 -"The Changeling" is, not only is it a horror movie, 723 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,038 it's also, Uh, a murder mystery. 724 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,151 We wanna know what happened to this little boy. 725 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,192 And it introduces, uh, sort of an element 726 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,390 we've seen in a lot of ghost story movies since then, 727 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,710 where the ghosts are reaching out to us 728 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,991 to solve a mystery to help put their souls at rest, 729 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,511 - [coughing] 730 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,392 - And it's a kind of theme that we've seen 731 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,397 in the films of Guillermo del Toro, 732 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,796 where we really feel the pain of the ghost. 733 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,958 -Unlike "The Changeling," and many other ghost movies, 734 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,516 del Toro lets you see his specters, 735 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,757 The ghost of à murdered child in "The Devil's Backbone" 736 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,680 is one of the most disturbing figures ever put on film. 737 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,472 - Guillermo has this incredible, like, sense-- 738 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,437 uh, visual sense, 739 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,478 [ominous music] 740 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,840 s 741 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,952 Santi, the ghost, empty eyes, 742 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,196 and the crack in-in his forehead. 743 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,716 Blood coming out of his forehead is shooting up. 744 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,955 It's floating. 745 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,753 Its physics abide by the laws of-- 746 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,077 of the conditions where he died. 747 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,838 - [groans, grunts] 748 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,837 - [grunts] 749 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,000 - Because he's--he's--he's actually drowned. 750 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,519 [dramatic musical flourish] 751 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,876 - But del Toro's ultimate ghost movie 752 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,117 is 2015's "Crimson Peak." 753 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,754 - When the time comes, 754 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,589 you'll hear of Crimson Peak, - [whimpering] 755 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,074 - By blending practical effects 756 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,714 with powerful new CGI... - [screams] 757 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,071 never seen before. 758 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,192 - [screeching, moaning] 759 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,158 [erying] 760 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,760 - "Crimson Peak" was my fifth 761 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,912 of my six movies with Guillermo del Toro. 762 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,554 When he calls and says, "1 want you to be in a film," 763 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,799 and then I find out later what it's gonna be. 764 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,353 [chuckles] ‘Cause I trust him that much. 765 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,754 [screeching] -[gasps] 766 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,598 - [moaning] 767 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,233 - And then when I found out you're gonna be playing 768 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,033 two of my--of my five ghost ladies in the movie, 769 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,833 l'm like, "How's that, again?" 770 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,714 “Crimson Peak" is about a young woman whose father dies 771 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,198 [groans] 772 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,550 - Edith is met by a gentleman who says, 773 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,716 Ah, I can--l can offer you a better life. 774 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,637 Come with me to England. And so she comes 775 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,194 with her dowry, with her inheritance. 776 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,993 « Once she signs the final papers, 777 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,713 I want this over with. 778 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,757 - But the house that he takes her to 779 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,757 is haunted by lots of ghost ladies 780 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,838 who might be from a similar past. 781 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,678 - [growls softly] 782 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,199 - [gasps] 783 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,958 -And he might've done this before. 784 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,071 What I love about “Crimson Peak" was 785 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,919 The imagery might be a little off-putting at first, 786 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,190 but they were there to heed warning 787 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,430 and to help this--this woman who was still alive 788 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,710 not to become one of them. 789 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,478 - [breathing heavily] 790 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,830 - His blood 791 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,157 will be on your hands. 792 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,510 - [gasps, pants] 793 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,875 -Well, ghost stories are always about the way 794 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,912 the past casts its long shadow on the present. 795 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,678 - [grunts, groans] 796 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,075 - [grunts] 797 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,033 « Faulkner famously said, The past isn't over. 798 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,310 It isn't even past. 799 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,034 The big bloodstain of the past 800 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,959 lying across the present. 801 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,469 -"Crimson Peaks" ghosts were victims 802 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,158 of cold-blooded murder. 803 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,157 [suspenseful music] 804 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,158 So is the ghost in "The Ring." 805 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,516 But this ghost doesn't wanna help you. 806 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,233 [television buzzes, screeches] 807 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,113 It's a serial killer from beyond the grave. 808 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,273 - Have you heard about this videotape that kills you 809 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,391 when you watch it? 810 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,273 -What kind of tape? -À tape. À regular tape. 811 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,630 [suspenseful music] 812 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,353 s 813 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,471 -"The Ring" is about à videotape, 814 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,151 and if you watch it, within seven days you die. 815 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,759 [television ringing] 816 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,629 Naomi Watts plays a news reporter. 817 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,798 And she's reporting on this story. 818 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,751 Essentially, she comes across the film 819 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,030 when doing her journalistic research. 820 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,991 [phone rings] 821 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,638 - Seven days. 822 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,274 - And just brings à tape home 823 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,039 and her«her son watches the tape. 824 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,229 [television static whooshes] 825 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,794 -Nol 826 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,316 - And so now it becomes also a story of-- 827 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,273 of not just a journalist trying to dig into the story 828 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,199 and find its roots. It's a mother 829 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:32,719 trying to save her son's life. 830 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,155 - And it has this natural time bomb structure. 831 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,635 You see the video, you know you have seven days 832 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,114 before you're gonna die. 833 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,310 Your life is gonna decay around you, 834 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,636 and steadily becoming more and more like a nightmare. 835 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,633 - [coughing] 836 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,993 [coughs] 837 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,077 -And there's nothing you can do to stop it. 838 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,872 - You don't wanna hurt anyone. 839 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,594 - But I do, and l'm sorry. 840 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,678 -Âs Naomi Watts' character is digging in and digging in, 841 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,677 you realize that this child 842 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:11,233 is what you have to be worried about. 843 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,679 She's the one that will haunt you, 844 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,154 and she's the one that will come after you. 845 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,310 - Samara.... 846 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,078 -"The Ring" is a remake 847 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,794 ofthe haunting Japanese film "Ringu." 848 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,717 - Though the plot is the same, 849 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,752 you can see how differently Eastern and Western cultures 850 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,518 tell ghost stories. 851 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,836 «There's a very specific approach to fear. 852 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,712 The Japanese films, 853 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,719 all you need is a pale face and long, black hair. 854 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,879 It's iconic in a way that has been for years. 855 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,517 There are icons that, uh, immediately induce 856 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,996 shudders and goose bumps to a Japanese audience 857 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,953 that would not necessarily to an American audience. 858 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,151 - [grunts] 859 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,111 [horse groans] 860 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,117 - The U.S. version of "The Ring" 861 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,039 grossed $249,000,000, 862 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,357 ushering in a wave of Japanese ghost film remakes. 863 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,756 -[screeches] -Aht 864 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,838 - [softly screeching] - [whimpering] 865 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,838 [tense music] 866 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,149 -The dark, brooding Japanese horror style 867 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,396 made its way into Hollywood films, 868 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,000 like Andrew Douglas" 2005 remake 869 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,758 of “The Amityville Horror." 870 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,397 -We're seeing a lot of Asian horror films 871 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,238 for the first time, - [whimpering] 872 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,880 - We're kind of influence by this new imagery. 873 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,479 We hadn't seen it. 874 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,079 - [screams] 875 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,396 -The child twisted up, stuck to the roof 876 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,796 is very much a kind of Asian horror image. 877 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,717 s 878 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,070 - But "The Ring" remains the most successful 879 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,270 Japanese horror-inspired classic. 880 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880 -Oh. [screams] 881 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,912 - Rachel! 882 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,516 -"The Ring” was, uh, one of those movies 883 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,030 that had so many disturbing images. 884 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,594 1 just--l could not 885 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,280 sleep for days 886 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,950 after I saw that movie. 887 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,119 And I watched a lot of TV, so whenever there would be 888 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,629 static white noise kind of screen, 889 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,149 I would--l just-- I couldn't deal. 890 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,157 -Ah! 891 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,510 -It changed that whole image for me 892 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,473 for the rest of my life, like, to this day, you know, 893 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,558 1-1 would probably still get a twinge of, like, 894 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,954 Oh, [bleep]. 895 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,279 - This is about the fear of our own mortality, you know. 896 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,915 About getting the diagnosis that you only have so long, 897 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,712 and not being able to put the brakes on, 898 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,115 not being able to bargain for more time. 899 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,231 [suspenseful music] 900 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,999 - Ghosts mean different things in different religions 901 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,793 and different cultures. Some ghosts are benevolent, 902 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,309 some ghosts are malicious. 903 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,874 But there's always that struggle. 904 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,038 "Cause what--when someone dies, where do they go? 905 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,631 lhave a friend who says that 906 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,559 the people she knows don't die, 907 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,511 They just are on vacation. 908 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,994 Where's Larry? 909 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,077 Oh, he's in Rio de Janeiro on the beach. 910 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,239 Because they just are here, and then they're not here. 911 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,112 And that's why we create rituals, 912 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,629 funerals, memorial services, to help us deal 913 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,353 with the grief. 914 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,791 And part of the grief is, Where the hell did they go? 915 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,950 Movies help you. They're therapeutic. 916 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,911 They deal with ‘where did they go"? 67620

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