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>> On this episode of "death row stories" --

row stories" -- >> we had a stabbing homicide.

>> We had a stabbing homicide. >> -- A brutal murder in a

>> -- a brutal murder in a Phoenix bar --

Phoenix bar -- >> she was on her back. Her

>> she was on her back. Her clothing was strewn around the

clothing was strewn around the restroom.

Restroom. >> -- And a gruesome signature

>> -- and a gruesome signature left at the scene.

Left at the scene. >> We thought we had a murder

>> we thought we had a murder with a disfigured tooth.

With a disfigured tooth. >> Crooked teeth put bite-Mark

>> crooked teeth put bite-Mark science on trial and an air

science on trial and an air force veteran on death row.

Force veteran on death row. >> There was no way that raised

>> there was no way that raised teeth could have made those

teeth could have made those marks.

Marks. >> The blood didn't match. The

>> the blood didn't match. The fingerprints didn't match.

Fingerprints didn't match. >> They hid this evidence until

>> they hid this evidence until the very last minute.

The very last minute. >> They wanted the death

>> they wanted the death penalty. They were gonna do

penalty. They were gonna do everything they could to make

everything they could to make sure it happened.

Sure it happened. >> This was our justice system.

>> This was our justice system. But it turned out that this

but it turned out that this system be about the truth.

System be about the truth. >> There's a body in the water.

>> There's a body in the water. >> He was butchered and

>> he was butchered and murdered.

Murdered. >> Many people proclaim their

>> many people proclaim their innocence.

Innocence. >> In this case, there are a

>> in this case, there are a number of things that stink.

Number of things that stink. >> This man is remorseless.

>> This man is remorseless. >> He needs to pay for it with

>> he needs to pay for it with his life.

His life. >> The electric chair flashed

>> the electric chair flashed in front of my eyes.

In front of my eyes. >> Get a conviction at all

>> get a conviction at all costs. Let the truth fall where

costs. Let the truth fall where it may.

1991. Kim ancona was a single mother. She had just had a

mother. She had just had a wonderful new thing in her

wonderful new thing in her life. She was a bartender who

life. She was a bartender who had just been made a manager of

had just been made a manager of the CBS bar in Phoenix,

the CBS bar in Phoenix, Arizona. The CBS lounge was a

Arizona. The CBS lounge was a nice bar to go to. It was in a

nice bar to go to. It was in a strip mall in Phoenix.

Strip mall in Phoenix. >> I worked literally right

>> I worked literally right behind the bar she was working

behind the bar she was working at, so I would stop on my way

at, so I would stop on my way into work or on my way home

into work or on my way home from work, stop in and hang out

from work, stop in and hang out with her, have a couple of

with her, have a couple of cokes, and play darts. I would

cokes, and play darts. I would see her every day.

See her every day. >> That night, when we were

>> that night, when we were getting ready to leave the bar,

getting ready to leave the bar, for Kim closing up, we asked

for Kim closing up, we asked her if she needed any help. She

her if she needed any help. She said no, that she was going

said no, that she was going home.

Home. >> She had called me and asked

>> she had called me and asked me if I could find her a bag of

me if I could find her a bag of weed, and I told her I would

weed, and I told her I would try. And I called her back

try. And I called her back later. I was unsuccessful, and

later. I was unsuccessful, and she said that was fine. And

she said that was fine. And that was the last time I spoke

that was the last time I spoke to her.

To her. >> In the early-morning hours

>> in the early-morning hours of December 29, 1991, the owner

of December 29, 1991, the owner of the CBS lounge arrived to

of the CBS lounge arrived to open the bar.

Open the bar. >> The first thing he noticed

>> the first thing he noticed was that the front door was

was that the front door was open. It had not been locked.

Open. It had not been locked. So he went in. Everything

so he went in. Everything looked like it had been cleaned

looked like it had been cleaned up. But he noticed that Kim

up. But he noticed that Kim ancona's purse was on the bar.

Ancona's purse was on the bar. Then he went into the men's

then he went into the men's room and saw her body.

Room and saw her body. >> I got a call to roll up to

>> I got a call to roll up to 17th Avenue in camelback, which

17th Avenue in camelback, which is where CBS was. We had a

is where CBS was. We had a stabbing homicide. There could

stabbing homicide. There could have been sexual assault.

Have been sexual assault. >> She was on her back. She was

>> she was on her back. She was naked. Her clothing was strewn

naked. Her clothing was strewn around the restroom. It had

around the restroom. It had been cut off her body. She had

been cut off her body. She had multiple wounds around her neck,

multiple wounds around her neck, around her body.

Around her body. >> Kim ancona had been stabbed

>> Kim ancona had been stabbed from behind multiple times with

from behind multiple times with a kitchen knife. Detectives

a kitchen knife. Detectives found the murder weapon in the

found the murder weapon in the bathroom trash can.

Bathroom trash can. >> The knife was actually bent

>> the knife was actually bent significantly. Later, at

significantly. Later, at autopsy, it was determined that

autopsy, it was determined that probably occurred when the

probably occurred when the knife hit bone, which indicates,

knife hit bone, which indicates, you know, somebody very

you know, somebody very powerfully stabbed her. So this

powerfully stabbed her. So this was just a horrific crime.

Was just a horrific crime. >> I was riding my 10-speed to

>> I was riding my 10-speed to work and cutting through that

work and cutting through that parking lot, and I saw the

parking lot, and I saw the yellow tape around her car. And

yellow tape around her car. And as I rode up, I wanted to see

as I rode up, I wanted to see what was going on, because, of

what was going on, because, of course, my mom's car is covered

course, my mom's car is covered in tape. And one of the

in tape. And one of the detectives took me aside, and

detectives took me aside, and he said that my mother is no

he said that my mother is no longer with US and that she has

longer with US and that she has been killed. I was in shock. I

been killed. I was in shock. I couldn't believe it. Be honest,

couldn't believe it. Be honest, I'm still in shock, you know?

I'm still in shock, you know? It's probably the worst thing

it's probably the worst thing that I could have ever heard.

That I could have ever heard. >> At the crime scene, police

>> at the crime scene, police examined Kim's body and

examined Kim's body and discovered strange marks on her

discovered strange marks on her torso.

Torso. >> They saw on the body lesions,

>> they saw on the body lesions, it looked like bite marks, both

it looked like bite marks, both on her neck and on her left

on her neck and on her left breast. So they called a

breast. So they called a dentist who worked for the

dentist who worked for the medical examiner's office, Dr.

Medical examiner's office, Dr. John piakis.

John piakis. >> They were distinctive bite

>> they were distinctive bite marks, and the teeth didn't

marks, and the teeth didn't really line up the way you

really line up the way you would see them on your crest

would see them on your crest commercial or whatever. So we

commercial or whatever. So we thought we had somebody with a

thought we had somebody with a disfigured tooth.

Disfigured tooth. >> Police began questioning the

>> police began questioning the bar's patrons and employees.

Bar's patrons and employees. One name kept coming up.

One name kept coming up. >> Several people that we

>> several people that we talked to got the name ray as

talked to got the name ray as somebody that she had been out

somebody that she had been out with.

With. >> Some of Kim ancona's friends

>> some of Kim ancona's friends told the police that ray was a

told the police that ray was a friend of hers. They had

friend of hers. They had suggested he's like a

suggested he's like a boyfriend. So they thought,

boyfriend. So they thought, "well, we're gonna go talk to

"well, we're gonna go talk to ray."

Ray." >> 35-five-year old ray krone

>> 35-five-year old ray krone live just a few blocks from the

live just a few blocks from the CBS lounge. A mailman with no

CBS lounge. A mailman with no criminal record, he was a

criminal record, he was a regular at the bar.

Regular at the bar. >> I had heard his name before,

>> I had heard his name before, 'cause my mom had a little bit

'cause my mom had a little bit of a crush on him, thought he

of a crush on him, thought he was a handsome guy. The one

was a handsome guy. The one time I did see him at the bar,

time I did see him at the bar, my mother had asked him to

my mother had asked him to substitute on her dart team at

substitute on her dart team at the end of the dart tournament,

the end of the dart tournament, she asked him to pay the entry

she asked him to pay the entry fee, and he got really upset.

Fee, and he got really upset. He raised his voice and pretty

he raised his voice and pretty much stormed out of the bar.

Much stormed out of the bar. >> I went over to his house.

>> I went over to his house. It's really not far from the

it's really not far from the bar. He responded to our

bar. He responded to our questions. The key, as far as

questions. The key, as far as we were concerned, was he

we were concerned, was he didn't have perfect teeth.

Didn't have perfect teeth. >> Krone denied being in a

>> krone denied being in a relationship with Kim ancona,

relationship with Kim ancona, and his roommate told police he

and his roommate told police he had been home all night. Police

had been home all night. Police brought krone to the station

brought krone to the station and collected samples of his

and collected samples of his hair, saliva, and blood.

Hair, saliva, and blood. >> And at the end of the

>> and at the end of the interview, they asked ray to

interview, they asked ray to bite into this section of the

bite into this section of the styrofoam paper plate. And then

styrofoam paper plate. And then they took that to Dr. Piakis,

they took that to Dr. Piakis, and Dr. Piakis said, "well,

and Dr. Piakis said, "well, that's consistent with the

that's consistent with the murderer."

Murderer." >> police took impressions of

>> police took impressions of krone's teeth to create a

krone's teeth to create a plaster model. When they

plaster model. When they compared them to the bite marks

compared them to the bite marks on Kim's body, they appeared to

on Kim's body, they appeared to line up. A day later, on new

line up. A day later, on new year's Eve, ray krone was

year's Eve, ray krone was arrested and charged with

arrested and charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, and

kidnapping, sexual assault, and murder.

Murder. >> I was 14 when that happened.

>> I was 14 when that happened. >> I believe it was a day or

>> I believe it was a day or two before the funeral. I had

two before the funeral. I had heard that on the news, they

heard that on the news, they had caught somebody, and they

had caught somebody, and they said his name. It didn't help

said his name. It didn't help very much, but I had some

very much, but I had some relief that the person who did

relief that the person who did it was going to be punished.

It was going to be punished. >> Krone's court-appointed

>> krone's court-appointed attorney suggested he plead

attorney suggested he plead guilty and take a deal. He

guilty and take a deal. He refused.

Refused. >> He wasn't gonna take a deal.

>> He wasn't gonna take a deal. He said, "I didn't do it." And

he said, "I didn't do it." And I will tell you that in the 20

I will tell you that in the 20 years I was in homicide, I

years I was in homicide, I heard that every time -- "i

heard that every time -- "i didn't do it."

Didn't do it." >> Ray krone's trial began on

>> ray krone's trial began on July 29, 1992. Veteran

July 29, 1992. Veteran prosecutor Noel Levy was

prosecutor Noel Levy was determined to seek the death

determined to seek the death penalty.

Penalty. >> Noel Levy was a career

>> Noel Levy was a career prosecutor who had a very good

prosecutor who had a very good reputation, had done a number

reputation, had done a number of very high-profile cases. He

of very high-profile cases. He had a background in the

had a background in the military. He was a military

military. He was a military intelligence officer.

Intelligence officer. >> Levy would focus his case on

>> Levy would focus his case on the bite marks left behind by

the bite marks left behind by the killer. His star witness

the killer. His star witness was Dr. Raymond rawson, a

was Dr. Raymond rawson, a dentist and Nevada state

dentist and Nevada state senator. On the stand, rawson

senator. On the stand, rawson produced a compelling exhibit

produced a compelling exhibit -- a video comparing krone's

-- a video comparing krone's teeth to the marks on Kim's

teeth to the marks on Kim's body.

Body. >> I had never seen a videotape

>> I had never seen a videotape of that type ever used by

of that type ever used by anyone else. It took hundreds

anyone else. It took hundreds and hundreds of hours to create

and hundreds of hours to create that video. He used two cameras,

that video. He used two cameras, and then he put the pictures

and then he put the pictures together, and that videotape

together, and that videotape was very convincing.

Was very convincing. >> Kim's oldest son, Chris, sat

>> Kim's oldest son, Chris, sat in the courtroom.

In the courtroom. >> It was really hard. So, I

>> it was really hard. So, I was only 18 years old. To be

was only 18 years old. To be honest, I shouldn't have been

honest, I shouldn't have been in there. They shouldn't have

in there. They shouldn't have allowed me in there. There's

allowed me in there. There's just things that I shouldn't

just things that I shouldn't have heard. The bite marks --

have heard. The bite marks -- shouldn't have seen any of

shouldn't have seen any of that. The whole whole case was

that. The whole whole case was very traumatizing.

Very traumatizing. >> After an eight-day trial,

>> after an eight-day trial, the jury delivered their

the jury delivered their verdict. Ray krone was guilty

verdict. Ray krone was guilty of kidnapping and murder in the

of kidnapping and murder in the first degree. He was sentenced

first degree. He was sentenced to death.

To death. >> Took the jury a little over

>> took the jury a little over three hours to find me guilty.

Three hours to find me guilty. You kind of sit there like

you kind of sit there like you're watching a tennis match,

you're watching a tennis match, and you're actually being the

and you're actually being the ball that's being hit back and

ball that's being hit back and forth. Everything that I stood

forth. Everything that I stood for, believed in the justice

for, believed in the justice system, was going. It turned

system, was going. It turned out that this system ain't

out that this system ain't about the truth.

>> On December 3, 1992, ray krone entered death row at the

krone entered death row at the notorious kasson prison in

notorious kasson prison in Florence, Arizona.

Florence, Arizona. >> The death row in Arizona is

>> the death row in Arizona is complete isolation. You have no

complete isolation. You have no physical contact with other

physical contact with other inmates. The cell was about six

inmates. The cell was about six by eight. I could stand in the

by eight. I could stand in the middle of it and just about

middle of it and just about touch the walls. Then, I had a

touch the walls. Then, I had a small window where you can look

small window where you can look out across the desert. And

out across the desert. And that's I'd say you were in your

that's I'd say you were in your cell. You got two phone calls a

cell. You got two phone calls a month.

Month. >> The atmosphere in maricopa

>> the atmosphere in maricopa county in 1991 was it was a

county in 1991 was it was a very law-and-order oriented

very law-and-order oriented judicial system. There was a

judicial system. There was a lot of pressure on judges in

lot of pressure on judges in particular to get these trials

particular to get these trials done, and they wanted the death

done, and they wanted the death penalty. They were gonna do

penalty. They were gonna do everything they could to make

everything they could to make sure it happened.

Sure it happened. >> To visit her son, Ray's

>> to visit her son, Ray's mother, Carolyn, traveled 2,500

mother, Carolyn, traveled 2,500 miles from Pennsylvania.

Miles from Pennsylvania. >> The experience of visiting

>> the experience of visiting someone on death row when they

someone on death row when they bring him into the cubicle on

bring him into the cubicle on the other side of the glass was

the other side of the glass was a very, very hard thing to see.

A very, very hard thing to see. >> I remember seeing the look

>> I remember seeing the look in my mom's eye. I'm shackled

in my mom's eye. I'm shackled at the waist and ankles, and

at the waist and ankles, and I'm shuffling in in a jumpsuit.

I'm shuffling in in a jumpsuit. And how do you let your loved

and how do you let your loved ones know that, "I'm okay. I'll

ones know that, "I'm okay. I'll be okay. You know, it's

be okay. You know, it's alright"? I grew up in Dover,

alright"? I grew up in Dover, Pennsylvania. Farm country. I

Pennsylvania. Farm country. I went to the same high school.

Went to the same high school. My grandparents went to the

my grandparents went to the same church my great

same church my great grandparents went to. We

grandparents went to. We enjoyed that outdoor country

enjoyed that outdoor country life.

Life. >> Ray was the most pleasant,

>> ray was the most pleasant, happy-going, easy to raise

happy-going, easy to raise child. Always a lot of fun. All

child. Always a lot of fun. All the way through high school,

the way through high school, ray was involved in activities

ray was involved in activities and scouts and church and

and scouts and church and things.

Things. >> After high school, ray

>> after high school, ray signed up for the air force. He

signed up for the air force. He was stationed in Savannah,

was stationed in Savannah, Georgia, when a car accident

Georgia, when a car accident left him with severe injuries.

Left him with severe injuries. >> I woke up in the hospital,

>> I woke up in the hospital, my mouth wired shut. I had a

my mouth wired shut. I had a broken jaw.

Broken jaw. >> After that accident, Ray's

>> after that accident, Ray's appearance had changed some,

appearance had changed some, because his teeth had been

because his teeth had been badly damaged, and his jaw had

badly damaged, and his jaw had been broken. And so when they

been broken. And so when they wired it together and it

wired it together and it rehealed, his teeth were

rehealed, his teeth were crooked.

Crooked. >> In 1980, ray moved to

>> in 1980, ray moved to Phoenix and took a job with the

Phoenix and took a job with the post office. On the side, he

post office. On the side, he was an avid dart player, and he

was an avid dart player, and he often stopped by to compete at

often stopped by to compete at the CBS lounge, sometimes with

the CBS lounge, sometimes with bartender Kim ancona.

Bartender Kim ancona. >> Kim with a bubbly, outgoing

>> Kim with a bubbly, outgoing person. She worked there, and

person. She worked there, and it turned out then that she

it turned out then that she also had a dart team.

Also had a dart team. >> My mom was the captain of

>> my mom was the captain of their dart team, so she was

their dart team, so she was very into darts. And we used to

very into darts. And we used to play a lot of darts together,

play a lot of darts together, in the bar and at home, but I

in the bar and at home, but I can never beat her.

Can never beat her. >> She was a nurse, but she saw

>> she was a nurse, but she saw kids deteriorating, seeing some

kids deteriorating, seeing some pass away, and it was really

pass away, and it was really affecting her, so she stopped

affecting her, so she stopped doing that to be a bartender.

Doing that to be a bartender. >> My mother was very

>> my mother was very hardworking. Family was always

hardworking. Family was always first. She did whatever she

first. She did whatever she could to keep a roof over US,

could to keep a roof over US, keep US fed.

Keep US fed. >> She would come home from

>> she would come home from work and sleep for about three

work and sleep for about three or four hours and then get US

or four hours and then get US off to school. She had that

off to school. She had that nurturing heart, and she was

nurturing heart, and she was hilarious. She was the life of

hilarious. She was the life of the party.

The party. >> In the early'90s, my mother

>> in the early'90s, my mother was going through a divorce. My

was going through a divorce. My brother and sister were staying

brother and sister were staying with our stepfather, because I

with our stepfather, because I wasn't home anymore, and she

wasn't home anymore, and she had lost her home because of

had lost her home because of the divorce and all that. She

the divorce and all that. She was trying to get back on her

was trying to get back on her feet.

Feet. >> She was happy to get all

>> she was happy to get all these hours working at the CBS

these hours working at the CBS lounge,'cause she wanted the

lounge,'cause she wanted the money so that she could have

money so that she could have her own house with her kids.

Her own house with her kids. >> She wanted to get her family

>> she wanted to get her family back together, and that's the

back together, and that's the move she was making when all of

move she was making when all of this happened.

This happened. >> For two years, ray krone sat

>> for two years, ray krone sat on death row while his mother,

on death row while his mother, Carolyn, fought for his case.

Carolyn, fought for his case. The family eventually brought

the family eventually brought on defense attorney Christopher

on defense attorney Christopher plourd.

Plourd. >> I first met ray krone in

>> I first met ray krone in June of 1994. I traveled to

June of 1994. I traveled to death row in Arizona, and I

death row in Arizona, and I interviewed him for a number of

interviewed him for a number of hours.

Hours. >> Chris wasn't a man that

>> Chris wasn't a man that seemed like just to be going

seemed like just to be going through the motions and asking

through the motions and asking routine questions, because this

routine questions, because this was a man that cared.

Was a man that cared. >> Early on, I got the notion

>> early on, I got the notion that ray was, one, not the type

that ray was, one, not the type of person that would do this.

Of person that would do this. But I walked out of there, and

but I walked out of there, and he was just like one of my

he was just like one of my brothers, you know?

Brothers, you know? >> That man from that day on

>> that man from that day on was one of my strongest

was one of my strongest defenders and fought for me the

defenders and fought for me the whole way through.

Whole way through. >> When he dug into the case,

>> when he dug into the case, plourd realized the main

plourd realized the main evidence against ray, Dr.

Evidence against ray, Dr. rawson's bite-Mark video, had

rawson's bite-Mark video, had been revealed to the defense

been revealed to the defense just two days before trial.

Just two days before trial. >> They hid this evidence until

>> they hid this evidence until the very last minute, when of

the very last minute, when of course there was not time for

course there was not time for the defense to do any kind of

the defense to do any kind of counteraction.

Counteraction. >> Why in the world would the

>> why in the world would the state try to get into evidence

state try to get into evidence a videotape that had been

a videotape that had been disclosed but two days before

disclosed but two days before trial?

Trial? >> On June 22, 1995, the court

>> on June 22, 1995, the court decided to overturn Ray's

decided to overturn Ray's conviction and Grant him a new

conviction and Grant him a new trial.

Trial. >> When we heard that the

>> when we heard that the conviction had been overturned,

conviction had been overturned, we knew we were on the right

we knew we were on the right track.

Track.

>> After nearly three years on Arizona death row, ray krone

Arizona death row, ray krone was granted a second chance to

was granted a second chance to prove his innocence. But as

prove his innocence. But as attorney Chris plourd prepared

attorney Chris plourd prepared for Ray's second trial, he

for Ray's second trial, he found himself stymied by

found himself stymied by prosecutor Noel Levy.

Prosecutor Noel Levy. >> I wanted to get access to

>> I wanted to get access to the evidence from the police

the evidence from the police department, and Noel Levy

department, and Noel Levy objected to that. He refused to

objected to that. He refused to give me notes from the crime

give me notes from the crime lab, access to the evidence.

Lab, access to the evidence. And then, once he was ordered

and then, once he was ordered by the supreme court to give me

by the supreme court to give me discovery, he went to every

discovery, he went to every interview and essentially knew

interview and essentially knew that he was in for a long

that he was in for a long fight.

Fight. >> Among the evidence the state

>> among the evidence the state finally handed over were 17

finally handed over were 17 hairs found on Kim ancona's

hairs found on Kim ancona's body. Of these, two came from

body. Of these, two came from an unidentified person, and

an unidentified person, and another was never tested.

Another was never tested. >> They said that some of them

>> they said that some of them were Kim's, and others could

were Kim's, and others could not be ruled out as being

not be ruled out as being Ray's. That wasn't even true.

Ray's. That wasn't even true. >> The reality is, when you

>> the reality is, when you look at the evidence hairs,

look at the evidence hairs, were from a person who was

were from a person who was either Mexican-American,

either Mexican-American, hispanic, or American Indian.

Hispanic, or American Indian. So krone could not and ancona

so krone could not and ancona could not have been the donors

could not have been the donors of those hairs.

Of those hairs. >> Chris also received police

>> Chris also received police files showing footprints

files showing footprints recovered from the scene,

recovered from the scene, matching size 9 1/2 converse

matching size 9 1/2 converse sneakers.

Sneakers. >> Ray krone didn't have

>> ray krone didn't have converse shoes, and he wore an

converse shoes, and he wore an 11.

11. >> They basically reanalyzed

>> they basically reanalyzed the latent prints, and they

the latent prints, and they came up with an opinion that

came up with an opinion that the size was consistent with

the size was consistent with Mr. Krone, even though he

Mr. Krone, even though he didn't own those type of shoes.

Didn't own those type of shoes. >> Finally, blood collected

>> finally, blood collected from the crime scene tested as

from the crime scene tested as type o. Noel Levy said that

type o. Noel Levy said that matched ray, but it also

matched ray, but it also matched back to Kim ancona.

Matched back to Kim ancona. >> You have to remember, in the

>> you have to remember, in the early'90s, we knew DNA was

early'90s, we knew DNA was coming, but it wasn't coming to

coming, but it wasn't coming to Phoenix right away. We were

Phoenix right away. We were still blood typing. They would

still blood typing. They would be able to say that it was a, b

be able to say that it was a, b or o. Back then, a, b, o was

or o. Back then, a, b, o was about as good as you were gonna

about as good as you were gonna get.

Get. >> It was amazing the number of

>> it was amazing the number of things that they did try to do

things that they did try to do a test on, but if it didn't

a test on, but if it didn't match me, they ignored it.

Match me, they ignored it. They're not looking for anybody

they're not looking for anybody else. They only wanted stuff

else. They only wanted stuff that matched me.

That matched me. >> Ray's second trial would

>> Ray's second trial would begin on February 16, 1996.

Begin on February 16, 1996. >> Noel Levy's theory of the

>> Noel Levy's theory of the case was virtually the same as

case was virtually the same as it was in the first trial, that

it was in the first trial, that ray krone was essentially the

ray krone was essentially the boyfriend of Kim ancona and

boyfriend of Kim ancona and that unless ray krone loaned

that unless ray krone loaned his teeth to somebody, ray

his teeth to somebody, ray krone is the killer.

Krone is the killer. >> Noel Levy was an extremely

>> Noel Levy was an extremely effective prosecutor -- very

effective prosecutor -- very tall, very persuasive, could

tall, very persuasive, could mesmerize a jury, would make

mesmerize a jury, would make declaration statements that

declaration statements that make him sound like they came

make him sound like they came right out of the Bible.

Right out of the Bible. >> Levy argued that ray and Kim

>> Levy argued that ray and Kim had been romantically involved

had been romantically involved and that ray killed her in a

and that ray killed her in a jealous rage.

Jealous rage. >> This boyfriend/girlfriend

>> this boyfriend/girlfriend thing kept coming up. I kept

thing kept coming up. I kept telling them, "look, I knew her

telling them, "look, I knew her from the bar. That's it. She

from the bar. That's it. She hasn't been to my house. I'm

hasn't been to my house. I'm not her boyfriend."

Not her boyfriend." >> Ray did not even know her

>> ray did not even know her last name at the time that she

last name at the time that she was killed. She was just Kim

was killed. She was just Kim from the bar.

From the bar. >> Daniel Miller, Kim's

>> Daniel Miller, Kim's youngest son, attended the

youngest son, attended the second trial and saw ray in

second trial and saw ray in person for the first time.

Person for the first time. >> For those four years, I

>> for those four years, I built up a lot of hatred

built up a lot of hatred towards ray. And to see him 20

towards ray. And to see him 20 feet for me, I wanted to jump

feet for me, I wanted to jump over the wall and cause

over the wall and cause physical harm. I believed in an

physical harm. I believed in an eye for an eye, and I wanted

eye for an eye, and I wanted him to be put to death for what

him to be put to death for what he did.

He did. >> When it came time to address

>> when it came time to address the jury, plourd attacked the

the jury, plourd attacked the state's case piece by piece.

State's case piece by piece. >> Chris proved that blood

>> Chris proved that blood didn't match, the fingerprints

didn't match, the fingerprints didn't match, and they're

didn't match, and they're eliminating all these things.

Eliminating all these things. So we really felt good about

so we really felt good about that.

That. >> The truth was coming out,

>> the truth was coming out, and I was starting to feel

and I was starting to feel positive about the system

positive about the system again. But it didn't take long

again. But it didn't take long to realize that they were

to realize that they were serious about believing that

serious about believing that I'd done it and

>> As ray krone faced the death penalty for the second time, he

penalty for the second time, he was facing off against a

was facing off against a respected scientific field.

Respected scientific field. Forensic odontology, or the

forensic odontology, or the science of bite marks, had come

science of bite marks, had come to prominence in the late'70s,

to prominence in the late'70s, when serial killer Ted Bundy

when serial killer Ted Bundy was convicted with the help of

was convicted with the help of Dr. Norman sperber.

Dr. Norman sperber. >> Dr. Sperber was considered

>> Dr. Sperber was considered the leading forensic

the leading forensic odontologist in the country,

odontologist in the country, and he saw this evidence in

and he saw this evidence in Ray's case early on.

Ray's case early on. >> I ran into Dr. Sperber in

>> I ran into Dr. Sperber in San Diego in the courthouse,

San Diego in the courthouse, and then he asked me -- he said,

and then he asked me -- he said, "what case are you involved in,

"what case are you involved in, in Arizona? " And I said, "well,

in Arizona? " And I said, "well, the krone case." I said, "the

the krone case." I said, "the guy's on death row." He was

guy's on death row." He was shocked. He said he had

shocked. He said he had concluded for the first trial

concluded for the first trial that there was just not enough

that there was just not enough information there to conclude

information there to conclude it was Ray's teeth, and that

it was Ray's teeth, and that information was never given to

information was never given to the defense attorney.

The defense attorney. >> Prosecutor Noel Levy

>> prosecutor Noel Levy eventually hired Dr. Raymond

eventually hired Dr. Raymond rawson to analyze the evidence.

Rawson to analyze the evidence. >> Noel Levy paid Mr. Rawson

>> Noel Levy paid Mr. Rawson $50,000 to show a jury how

$50,000 to show a jury how these teeth marks matched. He

these teeth marks matched. He created a video and a system

created a video and a system that nobody understood, and

that nobody understood, and this video was unbelievably

this video was unbelievably convincing.

Convincing. >> At the time, computer

>> at the time, computer technology wasn't what it is

technology wasn't what it is today, but he was doing some

today, but he was doing some image correction to make the

image correction to make the comparison on these breast

comparison on these breast models and demonstrating how

models and demonstrating how Ray's teeth made a match.

Ray's teeth made a match. >> And he apparently was able

>> and he apparently was able to manipulate the images to, in

to manipulate the images to, in fact, change the size of ray

fact, change the size of ray krone's teeth to match the bite

krone's teeth to match the bite Mark.

Mark. >> To counter rawson, plourd

>> to counter rawson, plourd called three top odontologists,

called three top odontologists, who testified that Ray's teeth

who testified that Ray's teeth were not a conclusive match.

Were not a conclusive match. >> He measured the teeth from

>> he measured the teeth from canine to canine. There was no

canine to canine. There was no way that Ray's teeth could have

way that Ray's teeth could have made those marks. But in the

made those marks. But in the video, it looked like they

video, it looked like they lined up perfectly. So I

lined up perfectly. So I basically said ray rawson is a

basically said ray rawson is a charlatan and a fraud, that he

charlatan and a fraud, that he had no scientific method.

Had no scientific method. >> The state had also produced

>> the state had also produced molds of Ray's teeth that

molds of Ray's teeth that seemed to be a match, but

seemed to be a match, but Florida argued otherwise.

Florida argued otherwise. >> There was a video that was

>> there was a video that was done of the police department

done of the police department examining the body of Kim

examining the body of Kim ancona.

Ancona. >> They took the mold of Ray's

>> they took the mold of Ray's mouth, and they put it on her

mouth, and they put it on her body, and they twisted this

body, and they twisted this mold to fit into the marks on

mold to fit into the marks on her body. They twisted and

her body. They twisted and turned it, therefore possibly

turned it, therefore possibly creating the match with Ray's

creating the match with Ray's teeth. Because, of course, this

teeth. Because, of course, this flesh is now dead, and they're

flesh is now dead, and they're not gonna retain whatever

not gonna retain whatever you've done.

You've done. >> Then what they did is they

>> then what they did is they took molds of the breast, and

took molds of the breast, and they used those in the video,

they used those in the video, also, to show that there was a

also, to show that there was a correlation between Ray's teeth

correlation between Ray's teeth and the bite Mark based upon

and the bite Mark based upon the mold.

The mold. >> While the medical examiner's

>> while the medical examiner's office denied affecting the

office denied affecting the evidence, presiding judge James

evidence, presiding judge James mcdougall did find credence in

mcdougall did find credence in other defense arguments.

Other defense arguments. >> I thought the defense --

>> I thought the defense -- they did an excellent job of

they did an excellent job of creating doubt. I came away

creating doubt. I came away from that thinking, "well,

from that thinking, "well, that's not as clear as it

that's not as clear as it looked when the state rested."

Looked when the state rested." >> Now there was the bite-Mark

>> now there was the bite-Mark expert that said it wasn't me,

expert that said it wasn't me, saliva on the bite Mark wasn't

saliva on the bite Mark wasn't by me, hair wasn't me. Just so

by me, hair wasn't me. Just so many things now to come out

many things now to come out that never, ever came out the

that never, ever came out the first trial.

First trial. >> Ray's trial would last seven

>> Ray's trial would last seven weeks. It took the jury three

weeks. It took the jury three days to render their verdict.

Days to render their verdict. >> When the jurors came into

>> when the jurors came into the courtroom and had to face

the courtroom and had to face US that day, I had an uneasy

US that day, I had an uneasy feeling that they were avoiding

feeling that they were avoiding looking at US.

Looking at US. >> The verdict was announced.

>> The verdict was announced. It was all in slow motion.

It was all in slow motion. >> Of murder in the first

>> of murder in the first degree, we find the defendant,

degree, we find the defendant, ray Milton krone, guilty.

Ray Milton krone, guilty. >> They just said guilty -- you

>> they just said guilty -- you know, guilty. "Whoa, back up.

Know, guilty. "Whoa, back up. Wait a minute. What's going on

wait a minute. What's going on here? This can't be possible.

Here? This can't be possible. What are they saying? " And you

what are they saying? " And you just -- I just couldn't believe

just -- I just couldn't believe it.

It. >> After all these weeks and

>> after all these weeks and days and hours, to hear that

days and hours, to hear that verdict is like doomsday. I

verdict is like doomsday. I mean, "no. Not all this, and

mean, "no. Not all this, and here we are, where we started."

Here we are, where we started." >> What more evidence, what

>> what more evidence, what more could we possibly have

more could we possibly have done to convince a jury of my

done to convince a jury of my innocence? I mean, how is this

innocence? I mean, how is this possible?

Possible? >> I was taken aback when they

>> I was taken aback when they came back with a judgment of

came back with a judgment of guilt. I felt that the defense

guilt. I felt that the defense had created serious doubt about

had created serious doubt about all the other evidence,

all the other evidence, including the bite-Mark

including the bite-Mark evidence.

Evidence. >> During deliberation, the

>> during deliberation, the jury had requested two pieces

jury had requested two pieces of evidence -- the mold of

of evidence -- the mold of Kim's breast made at the

Kim's breast made at the autopsy and the cast of Ray's

autopsy and the cast of Ray's teeth.

Teeth. >> Basically, the jurors --

>> basically, the jurors -- they took the molds, finally.

They took the molds, finally. They passed them around, and

they passed them around, and they fit the mold with the

they fit the mold with the teeth.

Teeth. >> When we used the molds, the

>> when we used the molds, the teeth fit the marks that were

teeth fit the marks that were on the breast mold. And I tried

on the breast mold. And I tried it myself. There was no doubt.

It myself. There was no doubt. I keep wondering about why we

I keep wondering about why we sat through all that. Teaching

sat through all that. Teaching US about hair and fibers and

US about hair and fibers and blood, and none of it mattered.

Blood, and none of it mattered. If he bit her, he killed her.

If he bit her, he killed her. >> While the jury found ray

>> while the jury found ray guilty, the decision whether to

guilty, the decision whether to accept that verdict rested with

accept that verdict rested with judge James mcdougall.

Judge James mcdougall. >> They heard all the evidence.

>> They heard all the evidence. They were 12 of 24 people that

they were 12 of 24 people that had reached that decision. But

had reached that decision. But there just was a nagging

there just was a nagging feeling that we hadn't gotten

feeling that we hadn't gotten the right person here.

The right person here. >> Ray krone had been found

>> ray krone had been found guilty a second time of killing

guilty a second time of killing Kim ancona, but judge James

Kim ancona, but judge James mcdougall struggled over

mcdougall struggled over whether to accept the jury's

whether to accept the jury's decision.

Decision. >> Even though I disagreed with

>> even though I disagreed with the verdict, it's not something

the verdict, it's not something I could easily just set aside.

I could easily just set aside. But that lingering doubt was

but that lingering doubt was enough to make me feel that I

enough to make me feel that I can't sentence this man to

can't sentence this man to death.

Death. >> Ultimately, judge mcdougall

>> ultimately, judge mcdougall sentenced ray to life in prison,

sentenced ray to life in prison, but he also issued a remarkable

but he also issued a remarkable statement.

Statement. >> He said, "the court is left

>> he said, "the court is left with a residual or lingering

with a residual or lingering doubt about the clear identity

doubt about the clear identity of the killer. This is one of

of the killer. This is one of those cases that will haunt me

those cases that will haunt me for the rest of my life,

for the rest of my life, wondering whether I have done

wondering whether I have done the right thing."

The right thing." >> For judge mcdougall to give

>> for judge mcdougall to give ray a life verdict as opposed

ray a life verdict as opposed to a death verdict was not

to a death verdict was not something that was

something that was well-received by the maricopa

well-received by the maricopa county attorney's office. So

county attorney's office. So for him to do anything more

for him to do anything more than that, I think he would

than that, I think he would have been run out of town, and

have been run out of town, and he would have lost his job.

He would have lost his job. >> Ray was sent to general

>> ray was sent to general population in the spring of

population in the spring of 1996, where his former death

1996, where his former death sentence earned him respect.

Sentence earned him respect. >> But all that changed one day,

>> but all that changed one day, when a television program came

when a television program came on the air.

On the air. >> I was in my room that day,

>> I was in my room that day, and a guy knocked on the

and a guy knocked on the window. He says, "hey, you

window. He says, "hey, you better check out channel 4.

Better check out channel 4. You're on TV." I'm like, "what?

You're on TV." I'm like, "what? " And I turn on my TV channel,

" and I turn on my TV channel, and here was "arrest & trial."

And here was "arrest & trial." >> Ray krone, a 32-year-old

>> ray krone, a 32-year-old postal worker.

Postal worker. >> And in that film, the two

>> and in that film, the two detectives say that when they

detectives say that when they got to Ray's red corvette, they

got to Ray's red corvette, they opened up the trunk, and there

opened up the trunk, and there were bloody sheets in there.

Were bloody sheets in there. >> And we later found out

>> and we later found out through the crime-lab

through the crime-lab investigation that the blood

investigation that the blood came back to Kim ancona.

Came back to Kim ancona. >> There was no blood traced

>> there was no blood traced back to Kim in his possession.

Back to Kim in his possession. >> They got pictures of me

>> they got pictures of me running down the road. They

running down the road. They said I was charged with a

said I was charged with a sexual assault.

Sexual assault. >> Based upon the evidence, ray

>> based upon the evidence, ray krone wanted to have sex with

krone wanted to have sex with Kim ancona that night. He was

Kim ancona that night. He was just shaking, he was so

just shaking, he was so nervous. He couldn't believe

nervous. He couldn't believe it.

It. >> Sexual assault ain't

>> sexual assault ain't accepted in prison, so even the

accepted in prison, so even the people that had known me for

people that had known me for about a year or so were now

about a year or so were now about to cut my throat, just

about to cut my throat, just because of that episode there,

because of that episode there, making it sound like I had

making it sound like I had raped and assaulted this woman.

Raped and assaulted this woman. >> When they convicted ray this

>> when they convicted ray this time, it was clear to me that

time, it was clear to me that the justice system was not

the justice system was not gonna solve this case. If we

gonna solve this case. If we ever wanted to get ray freed,

ever wanted to get ray freed, it was a matter of now we're

it was a matter of now we're gonna have to solve this case.

Gonna have to solve this case. >> Ray's last hope lay with

>> Ray's last hope lay with finding the real killer. To

finding the real killer. To investigate, the defense

investigate, the defense brought on former homicide

brought on former homicide detective Thomas streed.

Detective Thomas streed. >> One of the things that the

>> one of the things that the police department was made

police department was made aware of was the fact that a

aware of was the fact that a neighbor living across from the

neighbor living across from the CBS lounge saw a native

CBS lounge saw a native American leaning against the

American leaning against the wall of CBS lounge by himself

wall of CBS lounge by himself during the early-morning hours.

During the early-morning hours. He essentially wrote out a note

he essentially wrote out a note to the police. He said, "the

to the police. He said, "the man you're looking for appears

man you're looking for appears to be an American Indian."

To be an American Indian." >> There was one woman that

>> there was one woman that knew Kim that was in the bar,

knew Kim that was in the bar, and she identified an American

and she identified an American Indian drinking in the bar that

Indian drinking in the bar that night that Kim ancona had

night that Kim ancona had kicked out.

Kicked out. >> Kim and I were laughing at

>> Kim and I were laughing at this one guy. He was all

this one guy. He was all westerned out, but then he had

westerned out, but then he had a pair of ugly tennis shoes on.

A pair of ugly tennis shoes on. He wanted another beer, and she

he wanted another beer, and she said, "no, I'm cutting you off.

Said, "no, I'm cutting you off. You've had enough." That

you've had enough." That probably made him mad. I told

probably made him mad. I told Noel Levy that I believed that

Noel Levy that I believed that ray krone did not do this and

ray krone did not do this and that the guy that was at the

that the guy that was at the bar, I said, would give him all

bar, I said, would give him all reason to do this,'cause he got

reason to do this,'cause he got cut off. But Levy was cranky

cut off. But Levy was cranky with me. He was set that ray

with me. He was set that ray krone did it -- you know, his

krone did it -- you know, his teeth marks.

Teeth marks. >> Detectives investigated

>> detectives investigated Terry's tip without success.

Terry's tip without success. But by 1998, law enforcement

but by 1998, law enforcement was developing a new tool -- a

was developing a new tool -- a national DNA database called

national DNA database called codis.

Codis. >> I glommed on to that as

>> I glommed on to that as Ray's salvation, that these

Ray's salvation, that these databases are gonna eventually

databases are gonna eventually get populated, and then we

get populated, and then we could put the profile into the

could put the profile into the database and find out who

database and find out who actually killed Kim ancona.

Actually killed Kim ancona. >> By 2001, Ray's team believed

>> by 2001, Ray's team believed codis was strong enough for a

codis was strong enough for a new round of tests. They filed

new round of tests. They filed motions for access to Kim

motions for access to Kim ancona's clothing.

Ancona's clothing. >> I wanted to see all of her

>> I wanted to see all of her garments, all of her clothing,

garments, all of her clothing, because when an individual is

because when an individual is in the process of carrying out

in the process of carrying out an assault on someone with an

an assault on someone with an edged weapon, with a knife,

edged weapon, with a knife, their hand slips off of the

their hand slips off of the grip over the blade. They

grip over the blade. They accidentally cut themselves. So

accidentally cut themselves. So this individual's blood might

this individual's blood might have wound up on the victim's

have wound up on the victim's clothing.

Clothing. >> We originally requested the

>> we originally requested the DNA testing in October. It was

DNA testing in October. It was granted by the judge, and we

granted by the judge, and we were told it would take six to

were told it would take six to eight weeks. So, November went

eight weeks. So, November went by, December went by, January

by, December went by, January went by, and we still ain't

went by, and we still ain't heard no results. And I'm like,

heard no results. And I'm like, "what's going on? " And then it

"what's going on? " And then it turned out that they actually

turned out that they actually had the test results done. They

had the test results done. They didn't like the results,'cause

didn't like the results,'cause >> five years after ray krone's

>> five years after ray krone's second conviction, he waited in

second conviction, he waited in prison for the results of a new

prison for the results of a new round of DNA tests.

Round of DNA tests. >> A DNA profile was uploaded

>> a DNA profile was uploaded into the codis national DNA

into the codis national DNA database. Whether the person

database. Whether the person that did the crime was in the

that did the crime was in the database -- that was a shot in

database -- that was a shot in the dark. But in the end, they

the dark. But in the end, they got a hit towards a person

got a hit towards a person named Ken Phillips.

Named Ken Phillips. >> Kenneth Phillips was a hopi

>> Kenneth Phillips was a hopi Indian that lived about 500

Indian that lived about 500 yards from the CBS lounge. He

yards from the CBS lounge. He was a hardcore drinker. He had

was a hardcore drinker. He had a record of sexual assault.

A record of sexual assault. >> Phillips was already in

>> Phillips was already in prison for sexual assault, and

prison for sexual assault, and he matched the description

he matched the description given to police on the morning

given to police on the morning of the murder.

Of the murder. >> I called up Noel Levy, and I

>> I called up Noel Levy, and I said, "you know, you have to

said, "you know, you have to release ray krone, and you have

release ray krone, and you have to release him now." And he

to release him now." And he said, "no. That's a tentative

said, "no. That's a tentative hit. That's just a mistake.

Hit. That's just a mistake. It's a fluke."

It's a fluke." >> With the prosecutor's office

>> with the prosecutor's office dragging their feet, Ray's

dragging their feet, Ray's forensic investigator, Thomas

forensic investigator, Thomas streed, visited Phillips in

streed, visited Phillips in prison.

Prison. >> We were seated at a table in

>> we were seated at a table in the cafeteria, and I said, "you

the cafeteria, and I said, "you must have felt absolutely

must have felt absolutely horrible coming home that night,

horrible coming home that night, all covered with all of that

all covered with all of that blood."

Blood." >> over the course of the

>> over the course of the interrogation, Phillips

interrogation, Phillips recalled an altercation with

recalled an altercation with Kim ancona and later waking up

Kim ancona and later waking up with blood on his hands.

With blood on his hands. >> After the conversation with

>> after the conversation with him ended, we were convinced

him ended, we were convinced that he was absolutely,

that he was absolutely, unequivocally, without any

unequivocally, without any question whatsoever the sole

question whatsoever the sole individual responsible for

individual responsible for Kimberly ancona's murder.

Kimberly ancona's murder. >> Streed's suspicions were

>> streed's suspicions were confirmed when the hair and

confirmed when the hair and fingerprints found on the scene

fingerprints found on the scene matched back to Kenneth

matched back to Kenneth Phillips.

Phillips. >> And here's the great part --

>> and here's the great part -- Kenneth Phillips does not have

Kenneth Phillips does not have crooked teeth. Their entire

crooked teeth. Their entire theory that only someone with

theory that only someone with crooked teeth could have bit

crooked teeth could have bit that woman on the breast as he

that woman on the breast as he killed her was wrong from the

killed her was wrong from the start.

Start. >> On April 8, 2002, ray

>> on April 8, 2002, ray received a phone call from his

received a phone call from his defense team.

Defense team. >> My attorney, he said, "ray,

>> my attorney, he said, "ray, how are you doing today? " I

how are you doing today? " I said, "fine. Just another day

said, "fine. Just another day in paradise." He laughed, and

in paradise." He laughed, and then he said, "well, what are

then he said, "well, what are you hungry for? You want

you hungry for? You want seafood, Mexican food, steak, a

seafood, Mexican food, steak, a beer? What would you like? " I

beer? What would you like? " I said, "what are you talking

said, "what are you talking about? I'll eat whatever's in

about? I'll eat whatever's in the chow." He said, "I just got

the chow." He said, "I just got off the phone with the

off the phone with the prosecutor's office. They just

prosecutor's office. They just got back from the judge's

got back from the judge's chambers. They're cutting the

chambers. They're cutting the paperwork. You're coming home

paperwork. You're coming home today." And of course, I --

today." and of course, I -- "what -- what did you just say?

"What -- what did you just say? " He said, "roll up, ray. It's

" he said, "roll up, ray. It's all over. You're coming home."

All over. You're coming home." >> I drove over to the prison

>> I drove over to the prison in Arizona, and I could hear a

in Arizona, and I could hear a big, you know, clapping and

big, you know, clapping and yelling and so forth.

Yelling and so forth. >> They're all jumping up down

>> they're all jumping up down here. They had the TV was on.

Here. They had the TV was on. It was saying about how I was

it was saying about how I was being released. And they're all

being released. And they're all -- emotional things happened

-- emotional things happened that I still remember. They're

that I still remember. They're jumping up and down in their

jumping up and down in their beds, saying, "go home, ray

beds, saying, "go home, ray krone. Go home, ray krone."

Krone. Go home, ray krone." They're all excited for me,

they're all excited for me, 'cause they just seen on TV it

'cause they just seen on TV it was just announced that I was

was just announced that I was being released.

Being released. >> As soon as I got the call

>> as soon as I got the call that ray was being released,

that ray was being released, called my husband and Ray's

called my husband and Ray's younger brother, and the three

younger brother, and the three of US drove straight through,

of US drove straight through, 27 hours to Phoenix. Man.

27 hours to Phoenix. Man. To see him standing on free

to see him standing on free ground and able to touch him

ground and able to touch him and talk to him, you know, it

and talk to him, you know, it was like, "this is what we've

was like, "this is what we've been waiting for, and now it

been waiting for, and now it finally happened." It was a

finally happened." It was a dream. Now nothing's gonna keep

dream. Now nothing's gonna keep US away from ray for as long as

US away from ray for as long as we want. And he can eat what he

we want. And he can eat what he wants and go where he wants and

wants and go where he wants and wear what he wants and say what

wear what he wants and say what he wants, and -- - it's

he wants, and -- - it's gonna be great.

Gonna be great. >> I got a phone call from a

>> I got a phone call from a friend said, "you need to turn

friend said, "you need to turn on the TV right now." And I

on the TV right now." And I turned it on, and they were

turned it on, and they were talking about letting him go.

Talking about letting him go. At first, I was in shock. "Why?

At first, I was in shock. "Why? What's going on? " And as I

what's going on? " And as I listened to the rest of the

listened to the rest of the story, they said based off of

story, they said based off of DNA evidence, and that is when

DNA evidence, and that is when it clicked, he really didn't do

it clicked, he really didn't do it.

It. >> During the trial, he seemed

>> during the trial, he seemed very cocky and confident, and

very cocky and confident, and that made me feel a lot of

that made me feel a lot of anger. I realized why he was

anger. I realized why he was like that -- because he was

like that -- because he was innocent.

Innocent. >> Kenneth Phillips eventually

>> Kenneth Phillips eventually pleaded guilty to the murder of

pleaded guilty to the murder of Kim ancona. He was sentenced to

Kim ancona. He was sentenced to 53 years in prison.

53 years in prison. >> We owed it to Kim to find

>> we owed it to Kim to find the man who really killed her,

the man who really killed her, not to send an innocent man to

not to send an innocent man to prison. Kim deserved so much

prison. Kim deserved so much better. Her family deserved so

better. Her family deserved so much better.

Much better. >> I actually apologized to

>> I actually apologized to ray. I wrote him. I told him

ray. I wrote him. I told him that I'm very thankful that he

that I'm very thankful that he was proven innocent. And then

was proven innocent. And then him losing 11 years of his life,

him losing 11 years of his life, something he didn't do, it was

something he didn't do, it was really heartbreaking. I felt

really heartbreaking. I felt guilty.

Guilty. >> After spending over a decade

>> after spending over a decade in prison, ray krone became the

in prison, ray krone became the 100th death row exoneree in the

100th death row exoneree in the United States.

United States. >> People started to question,

>> people started to question, how could a regular person be

how could a regular person be put on death row and convicted

put on death row and convicted not once, but twice based upon

not once, but twice based upon bite-Mark evidence.

Bite-Mark evidence. >> And so bite-Mark analysis --

>> and so bite-Mark analysis -- is it a valuable crime-fighting

is it a valuable crime-fighting tool, or is it junk science?

Tool, or is it junk science? >> Ray krone's story -- I think

>> ray krone's story -- I think what most people see and worry

what most people see and worry about is that there could be

about is that there could be others like him that were

others like him that were convicted on this sort of

convicted on this sort of science, they got it wrong.

Science, they got it wrong. >> Ray's story was a horror

>> Ray's story was a horror story. This is a totally

story. This is a totally innocent guy who gets caught up

innocent guy who gets caught up in the egos and incompetence of

in the egos and incompetence of people in Arizona and ends up

people in Arizona and ends up losing 10 years of his life. It

losing 10 years of his life. It was a travesty of justice. I

was a travesty of justice. I would hope people in Arizona

would hope people in Arizona had learned from the ray krone

had learned from the ray krone case, but I wouldn't bet my

case, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

Life on it. >> I lost complete faith in the

>> I lost complete faith in the entire system, and that's when

entire system, and that's when I started realizing and

I started realizing and thinking, "he's probably not

thinking, "he's probably not the only one, and this has

the only one, and this has happened a lot."

Happened a lot." >> If they can put me on death

>> if they can put me on death row, they put anybody on death

row, they put anybody on death row. I didn't have a record.

Row. I didn't have a record. I'm not a monster. I'm a

I'm not a monster. I'm a veteran. I work for the post

veteran. I work for the post office. And so I share my story

office. And so I share my story with civilians, people in law

with civilians, people in law school, people in colleges,

school, people in colleges, people in churches that one day

people in churches that one day might serve on a jury. You know,

might serve on a jury. You know, just make sure you got beyond

just make sure you got beyond reasonable doubt that they are

reasonable doubt that they are guilty, that just because they

guilty, that just because they were arrested doesn't mean they

were arrested doesn't mean they did something. If we kill them,

did something. If we kill them, we can't bring them back if we

we can't bring them back if we found out we made a mistake,

found out we made a mistake, and we do make mistakes.