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The only reality. . . . lt proves that it's real.

Otherwise, you wouldn't waste your time with me.

We have sources. We know a few things.

We have some information.

But what we would like from you is something more.

Something more besides what we know.

You agreed to see us

although you knew what we were going to talk about.

You agreed to be filmed.

Why did you agree to be filmed?

l agreed because l take full responsibility for my actions

for the fact that l gamble and take huge risks.

Now, as far as me being crazy,

l will leave it to you to assess the extent of my insanity.

Do you think that what you've told us is only a matter of insanity?

Not at all.

ls it a passion?

Yes, it's a passion.

An absolute passion for gambling and , most of all , for taking risks.

Gambling and taking risks.

When you do a scratch-off lottery game, you don't take any risks.

You are one of those people

who like to put themselves in extreme situations.

Absolutely.

What kind of pleasure do you get from extreme situations,

knowing that you can lose your life?

l think that probably has to do with my genes.

lt's inside of you.

You want to do things that are not real.

Because life and death are not real.

So there is life and there is death.

You don't enjoy life?

Sure, l completely enjoy it. But l'm willing to gamble my life.

l completely enjoy it, since the money l get will improve my life,

it will give me the opportunity to do things that l could not have done.

So l do enjoy life.

But l am willing to gamble my life so l can have that money.

lf there was no money involved , would you have done it?

Absolutely not.

Earlier, you were talking about pleasure.

Sure, pleasure. Of course.

But if there is no money. . . .

l'm not going to risk my life for no money.

What do you like to do?

l like a little bit of everything.

l like art, l like cinema, of course. l like traveling.

l also like to help non-profit organizations for people who suffer.

Because you're one of them?

Most probably.

What makes life enjoyable?

Money. Because money is happiness.

Those who say that it only helps are wrong. Money is happiness.

lf you don't have any money, you're nothing.

So, to own a house, a car, not to struggle to make ends meet.

That's the real pleasure in life. To live as you want.

Of course, one should not be a megalomaniac

and buy a Ferrari when they can only afford a Sedan.

See what l mean?

Do you like women?

A bit too much.

Can you explain?

They're very expensive.

Are you in love?

No.

Have you ever been?

Yes, l was in love with my wife, of course.

You're asking me if l'm in love.

l'm probably still in love with her, even though we are divorced.

l think l'll be in love with her all my life.

lf she found out that you have killed people,

if your children found out that you have killed people,

what would they think?

l don't think they would believe me.

They would think l'm lying.

They would say, ''Daddy's a little delusional.''

Do you prefer it that way?

Totally.

Like l was saying earlier, these are two very different lives.

The life of a simple worker and the life of a gambler.

How old are you?

58.

ls it something that happens only in France?

No. lt's worldwide.

Have you already traveled to a different country to play?

Various countries, of course.

And you're not afraid of being filmed right now?

Absolutely not.

Why, because there are no proofs?

There are no proofs.

Besides, l take responsibility, and my contacts are untouchable.

What do you mean by that?

They are untouchable because l will never give up my contacts.

lt's a fundamental rule of the game. You don't give out your contacts.

Are you the one who contacts them?

No. They contact me directly.

l won't tell you how.

What kind of game is it? ls it a random game?

ls it a game for mentally ill people?

l think it is a game of planned insanity.

The good thing is that we play in extreme conditions,

as you can imagine.

There may be alcohol , there may be drugs, you name it.

So you don't think about death.

You only think about the game and its purpose, which is money.

Quickly earned money.

Do you have the right to kill because you've already agreed to die?

Sure, since it is the rule of the game.

Sure, since it is the rule of the game.

Kill or be killed.

Are you serious?

Absolutely.

You don't think l'm serious? l'm very serious.

ls it a passion?

Yes, an absolute passion. A passion for gambling and for taking risks.

When you do a scratch-off lottery game, you don't take any risks.

When the game starts,

does everybody have an equal chance of survival?

How does it work?

Yes, absolutely.

ln that game, everybody is on the same page.

Everybody has an equal chance to win or lose.

There are no favors.

There's no cheating?

l don't think so. l don't think so.

That would be terrible. l don't think so.

When the ammunition is given out,

everybody takes ammunition from a bag ,

so l don't see how someone could rig that.

What do you like to do?

l like a little bit of everything.

l like art, l like cinema, of course. l like traveling.

l also like to help non-profit organizations

for people who suffer.

Because you're one of them?

Most probably.

What makes life enjoyable?

Money. Because money is happiness.

Those who say that it only helps are wrong. Money is happiness.

lf you don't have any money, you're nothing.

So, to own a house, a car, not to struggle to make ends meet.

That's the real pleasure in life. To live as you want.

Of course, one should not be a megalomaniac

and buy a Ferrari when they can only afford a Sedan.

See what l mean?

So you're saying you enjoy life?

Totally.

Life is a part of death and death is a part of life.

When you start something , you take full responsibility.

lf not, don't do it.

lt's existence you're talking about.

lf you don't exist anymore, taking responsibility--

l like your response. l can tell you have a problem with death.

But you know, everyone will die.

lf l die in a game after agreeing to the rules of the game,

l will have no regrets.

No regrets. l have agreed to the rules of the game.

You have to understand that. l have agreed to the rules.

And in that terrible game, you have death or money as an outcome.

l don't think about the other guy.

l have completely demystified the other guy.

What do you have to say about society?

What l have to say about society

is that human beings most probably have multiple personalities.

And you can live with very different personalities.

One can be a murderer and a working father?

There is no murder in this.

A murder is when you kill somebody for. . . .

There is no murder here. lt's a game.

There are murders, though.

Absolutely not. There are no murders. lt's a game.

You can't say that it's murder. Absolutely not.

lt's not murder. lt's a game where people agree to die.

So it's not murder.

lt's an accident during the game.

Now, of course, l may be insane.

l will leave it to you to assess the extent of my insanity.