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'Cause, you know,
people ask me about you.
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You're notorious
on many levels,
you know.
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[ Whispering ]
"What's he really like?"
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You've excited or stimulated
this conversation
all over the place,
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and I have to say,
whatever else you may be--
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and you're probably
mad as a hatter.
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When they take your brain apart,
they're gonna find out
that you were singularly nuts.
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You are a genuine guy,
and what's more to the point,
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is that you're an original--
you're a true original.
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Shatner's like
Mr. Television.
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Bill Shatner-- You can't
turn on the TV without
seeing him in something.
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It's amazing
how he's morphed into
so many different people.
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The twinkle in his eye...
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has just gotten brighter
and brighter and brighter.
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He's still got the thing
that I found so sexy,
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which is a fire
in his belly...
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that he's not afraid
to light and show.
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I'm William Shatner,
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and this is
The Captains Close Up
with... William Shatner.
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How did that happen?
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Do you make your own luck?
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Have you, Bill Shatner,
made your own luck?
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'Cause I don't know
any other person
as driven as you.
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You know,
I don't think of myself
as being driven.
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You don't?
No.
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I think of myself saying,
Hey, I've been given
this opportunity.
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I think I should take it
and grasp the opportunity,
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because tomorrow I may not
have that opportunity.
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I am still the actor
who was saying,
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I wonder when the next job
is coming.
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I've got three kids.
How am I gonna feed them?
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How am I gonna get
above $1,800 in my bank?
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- That tape sill plays
in your mind?
- Absolutely.
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Does it really?
Oh, my God.
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You don't stop.
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You're indefatigable
and ubiquitous.
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[ Both Laughing ]
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[ Shatner Narrating ]My luck's been pretty goodover the last several years.
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In fact,on a scale of one to 10,I'd say it was 110.
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I've never been busier,and that's good,
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'cause "idle" is notin my vocabulary.
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I've done television series,recorded albums,
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toured all over the worldwith my one-man show,
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died and been reborn,
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been in pole vaultingcompetitions...
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and done a lotof documentaries.
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Well, technically,I haven't had a pole in my hands in quite a while.
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But I am onmy ninth documentary,and it just so happens--
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It's on,wouldn't you know it, me.
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Yeah, I know it's a little weirdmaking a show about yourself,
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but, hey,I'm contractually obligated.
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In 2011I produced and directed...
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The Captains,
a documentary aboutall the captains of Star Trek.
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I traveled over 25,000 miles,gained a lot of insight--and some weight--
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but what I also found outwere some things about myself.
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As it turns out,Kate Mulgrew was the onethat brought them to light.
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I'm always curious...
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as to what your
deepest need is,
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either vis-à-vis
your deepest insecurity...
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or vis-à-vis
who you really are.
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Is your deepest need
to perform, to work,
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or is your deepest need
to love?
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I realize,
at my late age--
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Mm-hmm?
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that the most important thing
in life is love.
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But I also recognize this--
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that in order to love,
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even if you have the object
of your love beside you,
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you need to be healthy.
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You need the energy,
the excess energy...
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from... staying well.
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Anything above that
you can devote to somebody else.
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But if you're not well,
you can't love...
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'cause you're so consumed
with survival.
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- You think that's true?
- I absolutely think
that's true.
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- I agree with you.
- That survival precedes love.
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Survival takes many forms,
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like work.
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So if you're
surviving by work
and surviving in your health,
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you have the sexual energy,
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or the erotic energy...
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to lavish on other things,
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which means your love object,
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pets, house, art--
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This is Picasso.
One feeds the other.
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- Did Picasso say that?
- I agree with that.
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Then I'll buy a Picasso.
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But I've noted this in men,
again, I am saying,
of your stripe,
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of your ego size
and strength.
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Your ego strikes me
as being singularly, um--
[ Chuckles ] intact.
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Or very,
very healthy.
Why would you say that?
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And right next to that
is your libido, which is
also very healthy.
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And what you get
from your work just
sort of goes right in.
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It's like a little box
feeding.
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But of course.
Mm-hmm.
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Absolutely.
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So that as age
comes upon you...
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and the hormonal drives
are lessened...
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and then
finally extinguished--
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Oh, say it ain't so.
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and as the fire of life
begins to be banked,
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your-- your erotic energy
begins to disappear...
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and the fire that you bring
to things you do...
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goes away.
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And that hasn't happened
to me yet.
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I knew there was gonna be
a punch line to that.
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- That hasn't happened
to you yet?
- Not yet.
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[ Shatner Narrating ] What is there left to do after 70 years in the busines?
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Well, talk about it,of course, on Broadway.
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This is it.
Scott Faris,
the director.
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Shatner.
One of the producers,
Larry Thompson.
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Into the night I rode.
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I was part of the city,
part of the night,
part of the road.
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The cycle you're working on
is the cycle called yourself.
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- And that's where you were.
- And that's what I did.
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- Night after night after night.
- Great. Then get right to
the punch line now.
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So I need that economy.
That's very tight
and very good.
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Stratford, Ontario. Classical
company. We dug a hole in the
ground. We put a tent over it.
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Tonight Show,
Freddie De Cordova
says, "Too long."
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20 minutes to do
three minutes.
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♪ Lucy in the sky
with diamonds ♪
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I look over
and there's Johnny Carson
like, "What the f--"
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End of Transformed Man.
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"And you want me to go on?"
And he goes, "Well--"
"I'll do it!"
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[ Laughs ] "I'll do it!
Don't let him get away!"
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I think that's
really good, Scott.
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So I got the job, Mr. Shatner?
Do I get to stay?
You get the job.
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Excellent,
everybody.
Rock and roll.
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[ Shatner ]
Rock and roll.
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[ Shatner Narrating ]Sixty years...
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since I was first in New Yorkon Broadway.
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Still trying to get some insightinto Suzie Wong.
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Actually, the late '50s and early '60s werea very good time for me.
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I had a lot of opportunities,and I took advantageof most of them,
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including one that camein the form of a telephone call.
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I was in New York
and I got a call...
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from a guy
named Roddenberry--
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- [ Laughing ]
- who said,
"My name is Roddenberry.
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We've shot a pilot
and it didn't sell,
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but what they said was,
recast it and we'll
take another look."
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[ Man ] Bill had a series
on television. It was,
I believe, shot in New York.
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It ended,
and he became available
as Jeffrey Hunter was exiting,
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and they snatched him up.
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And that locked the deal.
They had a show.
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Phasers, fire.
Point blank.
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[ Woman ]
So I met Leonard and Bill
in the first reading...
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around the table
with all of us sitting there.
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It was something else.
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I remember the first day
we saw the dailies
of the first shot we did.
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I thought, "Wow.
This show is gonna be great."
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[ D'Agosta ]
At the time, Bill was
on his way, basically,
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to becoming a movie star,
I thought.
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He appeared in...
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really fine films.
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He had a similar buildup
of a career as Robert Redford,
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in that he did all the
prestigious television shows,
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whether it was Twilight Zone,
or he was Judgment at Nuremberg
in a major part, as I recall.
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And then this new,
gigantic role...
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of Captain Kirk,
a total original.
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He had to do
all of the creation on it.
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There was no precedent.
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How do you do this thing?
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And what's the manner in which
you say these words?
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And therefore,
the classical work
that all of us have done...
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Yeah.
came to use.
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'Cause he was theatrical.
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And I think that
was his strength.
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Risk.
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Risk is our business.
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That's what this starship
is all about.
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That's why we're aboard her!
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[ Shatner Narrating ] Over half a century in show business is really a long tim.
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Shouldn't I have gottena watch from somebody by now?
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Well, I didfinally win an Emmy.
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Actually, more than one.
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Took 'em long enough.
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It's been an adventure,that's for sure,
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with plenty oftwists and turns...
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and something everyonefinds out sooner or laterin this business--
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success always comeswith a price.
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I know that you have loved,
and I know that you have
loved deeply.
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But vis-à-vis
your career,
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has it been difficult
to love completely?
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And has love suffered...
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because of your career
needs and/or choices?
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I got married
at a very early age.
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My career hadn't even
really started.
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I was a young actor
in Canada.
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I got married and had children
almost right away.
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Within a year, I had a baby.
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I was... distraught...
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over how am I
going to survive...
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as an actor...
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and then keep a roof
over my head-- our head--
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and pay for all the things
babies need.
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And this was in New York
in the live television days,
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so I worked and I worked
and I worked.
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I worked very hard.
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Had another baby--
had another baby.
And the bills mounted up.
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There was the need...
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in my being...
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for love, passion, lust.
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I hadn't had much of that
as a young man.
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When I got to be an actor
and people knew me,
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I had more opportunities...
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for the kind of girls
I would have loved to have had
when I was single.
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So for a long time...
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I... reached out...
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for, uh, love
of all different kinds--
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nurturing, uh, passion,
all those kinds of things.
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Never found it
in one woman.
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And--
But if I may interrupt you
for one second.
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Are you suggesting
that suddenly,
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due to your success,
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there was a plethora
of beautiful women
available to you--
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- Correct.
- that theretofore had not
been available to you?
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- That's exactly right.
- And perhaps--
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I don't want to put
words in your mouth.
Is it true or not true--
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Because if I were a man
I think I-- You were
a kid in a candy store then.
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Th's right.
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These women would not have been
accessible to you had you been
a failure as an actor.
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Mmm, one thinks not.
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- [ Laughs ] Right, right.
So, is the ego just lambasted?
- Absolutely.
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You're sort of dazzled,
right?
Yeah.
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There I was,
a lonely kid in Montreal,
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trying to survive as a kid,
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and suddenly,
some years later,
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I'm-- I'm in the public eye...
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and women
are available to me,
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and I'd never had that before.
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And so I succumbed
to all that temptation.
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The amount of time
that those series--
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and I did several--
took...
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destroyed each marriage...
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for the lack of time
and attention to the marriage,
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and also to the temptations
that were around.
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The concept of being
with one woman...
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and being uniquely theirs...
239
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arrived...
240
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with my wife Nerine.
241
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I began to understand...
242
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how love can be...
243
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heightened and sharpened...
244
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and in a sense blissful...
245
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being with one lady...
246
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and devoting
all your attention--
247
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physical, spiritual,
emotional--
248
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to that one lady.
249
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Nerine died.
250
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I was left with...
251
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these almost 10 years of--
252
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I had a beautiful thing
happen to me.
253
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Now it's gone.
254
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And then my luck--
255
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this thing that I have
in life--
256
00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,788
Yeah.
257
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I met my wife
Elizabeth.
Yes.
258
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And I've been...
259
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completely true to her...
260
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during the decade
we've been married.
261
00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:23,801
But you have been...
262
00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:27,813
a very hardworking
personality and actor
in this last decade.
263
00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,807
Have you not?
Absolutely.
264
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:33,809
Would Elizabeth tell me
that she feels that
she gets enough of you?
265
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No. We don't get
enough of each other.
266
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:39,815
We have so many things
we do together that we don't
get to do as much as we'd like,
267
00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,819
but we get to do
quite a bit.
268
00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:45,821
It is within
the realm of possibility...
269
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to work hard,
completely and utterly,
270
00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,829
and do the same thing
with love.
271
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Yes.
272
00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,833
But you know--
Who said it?
273
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One's work
is an exacting mistress.
274
00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:03,839
And that was well-answered
to your question
about love and work.
275
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Next question.
276
00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:08,854
Vacations
are always a good idea.
277
00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:09,848
Save yourself...
some money.
278
00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,851
Surfing
is my life now.
279
00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:18,864
Shatner has become...
so able--
280
00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:21,858
and he seems to
enjoy comedy.
281
00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:27,871
And what he's done
between Boston Legal and
his activities with Priceline--
282
00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,867
He has brought this level
of both sexuality and humor...
283
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,870
to his life and his work.
284
00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,872
- Look, I'm here to help.
- He just played the roles...
285
00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:38,884
that he seemed to be right for
for the longest time...
286
00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:40,878
before people realized he could
stretch and do other things.
287
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,880
He's an actor.
288
00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,894
The last series I did...
289
00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:49,887
was, uh, Boston Legal,
290
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,889
which, uh, of course,
291
00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:54,892
Bill had a small part
in that one too.
292
00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,904
James Spader, who is--
293
00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,896
Well, he's certainly
one of the finest actors
working today.
294
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,900
He has
a very particular way
of working.
295
00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:06,912
Very, um-- Very precise.
296
00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:09,906
As opposed to Bill,
who has been doing it
for so long.
297
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,909
He knows it's just film,
298
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:15,911
and he knows that
his life does not depend
on that particular scene.
299
00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:19,915
The difference of
the way they worked would--
300
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:23,919
You know, at first blush
you would think,
"Uh-oh. This could--
301
00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:27,933
Twenty shows down the line
this could get difficult."
302
00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:30,927
And I was always
fascinated to watch--
303
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,930
They worked
so differently,
304
00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:36,942
and yet with such respect
for each other's
way of working.
305
00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:38,936
It was like
The Odd Couple.
306
00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:43,938
It just was, you know,
that kind of chemical thing
that rarely happens,
307
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:46,953
and when it happens
it's like catching
lightning in a bottle.
308
00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,951
Does she understand
that she's sideways?
309
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,953
[ Elizabeth ]
I'm fine, honey.
310
00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,955
Liz, the image
is sideways.
311
00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:00,958
No, it's not.
It's good.
312
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,960
No, it's not. It may
appear to be on this--
313
00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:04,962
Well, then
it'll be artistic.
314
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:06,974
[ Chuckles ]
Right. Sideways.
[ Laughing ]
315
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,966
Now you're upside-down.
Why are you doing that?
316
00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,969
I'm not upside-down!
317
00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:14,971
Well, then you were upside-down
before, because you've now--
Honey, I'm fine.
318
00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:17,984
Do you understand
what's she's doing? She's
screwing up the whole thing.
319
00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,977
I'm doing this for nothing.
Why are you letting her
handle that?
320
00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:22,980
[ Liz ]
'Cause she's in
the front seat!
321
00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:25,982
Well, I'll turn sideways.
322
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:27,985
Liz had it upside-down,
then sideways.
323
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,987
Nobody wants to watch that.
324
00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:31,989
That's crazy.
I'm not talking.
325
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:36,001
As long as she has the camera,
I'm not talking.
[ Elizabeth, Liz Laughing ]
326
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:38,996
[ Laughing ]
It's not that--
327
00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:40,998
[ Laughing ]
I'm not talking.
328
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000
You don't see me talking?
I'm not talking.
329
00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:46,002
This is me not talking.
I am not talking.
330
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,005
So, you have enough
material to work with?
331
00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:52,007
Well, I don't today.
I've got about
20 minutes worth.
332
00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,011
We're good.
We're just--
333
00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:57,023
But I wanted to see if I'm
heading down the right road.
334
00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:58,016
Hell,
I don't know,
Bill.
335
00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:02,017
Well, we're gonna make it
together, so if you get
the good vibe, I'm in.
336
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,021
[ Shatner Narrating ]I've never let the fact that I can't sing...
337
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:07,033
keep me from making music.
338
00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:09,026
I'm now on my fourth--Or is it my fifth album?
339
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:12,028
This time withformer Yes guitarist,
340
00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:16,031
singer, songwriter and producr Billy Sherwood.
341
00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:18,035
♪♪ [ Speakers: Rock ]
I'll work on that
tonight.
342
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:21,037
♪ The wonder, the mystery ♪
343
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,040
♪♪ [ Continues ]
I see the beauty,
but I feel a part--
344
00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,043
♪ See the beauty ♪
345
00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:28,045
♪♪ [ Continues ]
346
00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:31,047
What this needs
from the very beginning...
347
00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:35,050
is the knife edge
of a guitar, uh--
348
00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:38,064
Sure.
electric guitar
shaping everything.
349
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,057
♪♪ [ Continues ]
♪♪ [ Imitating Guitar Solo ]
350
00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:45,061
Some of it's more somber.
Some of it's kinda jokey.
Yeah.
351
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,074
Some of it's serious.
Some of it's--
Yeah.
352
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,066
♪♪ [ Imitating
Guitar Solo ]
353
00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:53,069
♪♪ [ Continues ]
"For those of us
who are wet with fear."
354
00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:56,072
♪♪ [ Continues ]
My God, it just
works and works.
355
00:17:56,075 --> 00:17:59,075
We'll keep that
orchestral thing kind of--
Right.
356
00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:00,078
♪♪ [ Continues ]
Say the--
357
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,079
I would say that.
358
00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:04,081
So that they're sung
and you're saying those words.
359
00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:07,093
"A part of me
needs to be saved.
360
00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:10,086
An act,
a tiny, weeny bit brave.
♪♪ [ Fades ]
361
00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:12,089
I'm always
a little bit afraid,
362
00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,091
but I haven't
said that to you...
363
00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,093
because I'm
a little bit afraid to.
364
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:18,095
[ Both Laughing ]
365
00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,097
We might come on
cold like that.
I like that.
366
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:23,099
I wrote this.
367
00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:27,112
I filled this blank
piece of paper up--
I don't have to tell you.
368
00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:32,106
It is a miracle to have
words that go somewhere
and to see it.
369
00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,111
So you're digging?
I'm--
[ Sighs ]
370
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:37,123
Not only am I digging,
I'm kvelling.
371
00:18:37,116 --> 00:18:39,116
[ Both Laughing ]
Nice! Kvelling!
372
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:49,133
Paramount Studios.
One of the first studios
in the moviemaking business.
373
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:54,128
1910, 1920.
The first movies were made here.
374
00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:58,143
The Star Trek that I did,
The Next Generation-- All
the Star Treks were shot here.
375
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:06,152
This is Captain James T. Kirk
of the U.S.S. Enterprise.
376
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,147
I first got to know Chrisduring the filming of
The Captains.
377
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,150
Liked him a lot.
378
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:16,152
This time I wanted tofind out a little moreabout the new Captain Kirk...
379
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:19,155
and see what similaritiesthere might be...
380
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:24,158
between where I wasso many years agoand where Chris is today.
381
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:28,173
Were you aware
that with the role...
382
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:31,167
comes a certain leadership
of the whole company,
sort of their looking at you?
383
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,170
Oh, man, I was so scared,
I didn't even think about that.
384
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:36,173
Well, it's
an interesting thing.
385
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:40,175
I-- What I really found
with the group that I was
involved with is that,
386
00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:43,179
wonderfully, we were all
in a similar position
in our careers.
387
00:19:43,182 --> 00:19:46,182
We're all young,
starting out.
388
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:49,185
Some success.
Not too much success.
389
00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:52,188
So there was a camaraderie
and, I think, a parity, really,
390
00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:54,191
just speaking of the actors,
391
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:57,203
that lent itself to...
392
00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:01,196
what I feel like is
a distinguishable trait of the--
393
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,200
An ensemble.
394
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,201
Yeah. Of the piece--
that it really is
an ensemble.
395
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:15,212
[ Chuckles ]
396
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,219
Course heading, Captain?
397
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,227
Second star to the right.
398
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:34,231
And straight on
till morning.
399
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,240
What's your life like
now?
400
00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,242
I'm trying to think back
when I was 30 and had kids...
401
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:51,245
and was struggling
to make a living and keep
a roof over their heads...
402
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:54,250
and food on the table.
403
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:57,263
When did you-- You had a family
by the time you were 30?
404
00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:00,256
Well, I think I had
my first kid
by the time I was 27.
405
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,259
Wow.
Yeah.
406
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,261
I loved the family,
407
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,263
and I loved
surrounding myself
with the family.
408
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:09,265
At the same time,
when I look back I realize,
that's a big load.
409
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,268
It's an incredible
responsibility.
410
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,271
Three kids, finally.
411
00:21:14,273 --> 00:21:17,283
So by the time you started
Star Trek, you had--
412
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:20,276
I had three kids by the time
we finished Star Trek.
Wow.
413
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,279
And-And was divorced.
Whoa.
414
00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:24,281
What do you spend
on those movies?
415
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:30,293
I try to do as much work
as I can to do justice to
the character and the script.
416
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:35,289
Every project's different.
The toolbox you bring to it
is the same every time.
417
00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:39,304
The tools that you use
will inevitably be different,
418
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:40,298
given the circumstance
and the project and the piece.
419
00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:43,299
Are you involved
with anybody?
420
00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:46,302
Is anybody--
Is there love in your life?
Sure.
421
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,305
In my life, I'm--
422
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:51,307
My first love, really,
is my work right now.
423
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:55,310
That's where I'm spending
my time and my energy.
But certainly, yeah.
424
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:58,324
But isn't your life then lonely
when you're not working?
425
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:01,317
I have great friends
and a really wonderful family.
426
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,320
What's nice about having
grown up in Los Angeles
is that, this is my home.
427
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,325
I've never had to
make it my home.
428
00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:10,328
Did you go to
school here?
Yeah.
429
00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:12,329
I went to a small
private school in the Valley...
430
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,331
from kindergarten through 12th.
431
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,343
- Then I went
to Berkeley up north.
- Did you? Did you graduate?
432
00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:20,336
I did.
You went to McGill?
433
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,339
I went to a wonderful
university in Montreal.
434
00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:24,341
Graduated with
a business administration--
435
00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:26,343
Business administration?
436
00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:27,345
Yeah, business.
And I got my--
437
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:31,346
- Did you know you were
gonna act even then?
- Yeah. I knew when I was six.
438
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,350
It's interesting how it happens.
439
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:36,352
For some people--
You knew from a very early age.
440
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:39,355
You talk to many actors,
and they know, and they talk
their dying passion for it.
441
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,358
Ironically enough,
having grown up around it,
442
00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,361
one would expect that I--
443
00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:47,373
it was a foregone conclusion
that I would end up in it.
444
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:52,366
But for me it seemed to
fit perfectly with
certain needs that I had--
445
00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:53,371
intellectual needs and--
446
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,372
It's so ironic.
447
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,384
Most people,
myself included,
448
00:22:57,376 --> 00:23:00,376
parents say,
"Oh, gee, don't do that."
449
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,379
Uh, my father's expression was,
"You'll be a hanger-on."
450
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,382
[ Laughs ]
451
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:08,394
You won't be a success.
You'll be a beggar, in effect.
452
00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:11,387
That was my father's whole
thought about being an actor.
453
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:15,390
But on the contrary, your father
is saying,
454
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,404
"Great, son.
It's in the genes."
455
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:23,396
Well, I mean, I too also grew up
in an acting environment--
456
00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,402
It's a blue-collar
acting household,
457
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:27,414
which is a completely
different, you know--
458
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,406
Everything is relative.
459
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,408
I grew up very comfortable,
and I went to a wonderful school
and I was very,
460
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,411
in the grand scheme
of things, pampered.
461
00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:38,423
But I also did see
the peaks and the valleys,
and I saw the droughts,
462
00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:41,417
and I saw the time when money
was made and money wasn't.
463
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:45,420
So I think my parents' concern
when I first started was more--
464
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,434
They wanted to make sure
that I was cognizant...
465
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:52,427
and very aware
and really understood...
466
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:56,431
the potential of
the life of the starving artist.
467
00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,435
Do you recall the moment
when you thought,
468
00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:01,438
I'm gonna give this a shot?
469
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:05,441
You know, again, everything
just kind of happened,
470
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,454
like building a--
[ Chuckles ] a house.
471
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:11,447
It was just, layer of brick,
layer, layer, layer.
472
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,450
And by the time I got to
my senior year in college,
473
00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:16,453
with not a lot of other
interests besides acting--
474
00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:21,455
and that was my main, um,
kind of extracurricular focus--
475
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:24,460
that I thought,
yeah, I'll give it a go.
476
00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:27,473
I never had any sort of
arrogance about it,
477
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:30,466
but I just knew-- somehow
I just knew it would work out,
478
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:34,469
whether I ended up doing
regional theater in Vermont
or ended up on a TV show,
479
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,483
I just kinda figured
it would all work out.
480
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,496
[ Chattering ]
481
00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:01,498
[ Shatner ]
So, I spent the day in bed,
482
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:06,500
except to rush out of bed
for a quick visit...
483
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,505
and then rush back.
484
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:12,507
And, um--
And that's been my--
my day.
485
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:15,511
So I'm vertical
for the first time today--
486
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,524
opening night.
487
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:21,519
And yet...
488
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,521
it's always been
my philosophy...
489
00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,534
that there's nothing
you can't do...
490
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,526
if you
put your mind to it.
491
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,528
And if you feel
sick to your stomach...
492
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:34,530
and you still have to perform
in front of a Broadway opening,
you can do it.
493
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:37,543
It's just a matter
of will and focus.
494
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:39,536
So that's what I'm about.
495
00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:43,539
I'm about knowing
that I can do it,
496
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,542
no matter how I feel.
497
00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:00,556
[ No Audible Dialogue ]
498
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:29,586
You have
this extraordinary life...
499
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,588
which continues to open
like the most exotic flower.
500
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:36,591
- Doesn't it?
- It's unbelievable
what's happening to me now.
501
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,595
I have shows on the air,
things I've conceived of
that I'm doing that I--
502
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,599
- This is a perfect case
in point, isn't it?
- Perfect case.
503
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:46,602
- You make these things happen.
- Exactly.
504
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,605
[ Laughing ]
You want a jet?
You get a jet.
505
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,607
You want an actress?
You get an actress.
And everybody's with you!
506
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:55,609
Like, I'm overwhelmed that
you and Patrick, for example,
and Scott Bakula,
507
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:58,624
and Avery Brooks,
who talks to nobody--
508
00:26:58,617 --> 00:26:59,617
Are talking to you.
Are talking to me.
509
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:01,618
I'm overwhelmed.
Yes.
510
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,620
Overwhelmed by the generosity.
It's a tribute
to you, William.
511
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,633
It's about
your personality.
512
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,626
It's about something
that's genuine,
513
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:12,628
that has not been affected
by every other kind of success
that you've experienced.
514
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:15,631
You know what you're doing?
You're laughing
in the face of death.
515
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:17,644
I am.
You are.
Let's dap.
516
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:18,636
That's exactly
what I'm doing.
517
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:22,637
I'm saying to life,
and therefore to death,
518
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:26,651
I'm still here
and I'm not extinguished yet.
519
00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,648
Clever. Sharp.
Smart. Thoughtful.
520
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,651
Wise. And fun.
521
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:38,663
Yes, I admire him
for his passion...
522
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,657
about the job he does,
about his fearlessness,
523
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:46,661
about the way he seems to be
continually recreating himself.
524
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,665
The most extraordinary actor
in terms of a career.
525
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,667
It never stops.
526
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,669
It's project
after project after project.
527
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:55,671
The creation itself
is what keeps him going.
528
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,684
Because when he's done
with a project--
529
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:00,676
What's new?
What else can I do?
530
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:03,679
What else can I create
in my lifetime?
531
00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,682
[ Transporr Sound ]
No, no, no, no, no!
532
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:10,694
I'm not beaming in. You said
I could make an entrance with
a rocket strapped to my ass.
533
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,689
[ Laughing, Cheering ]
534
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,696
Thank you.
535
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,705
[ Engine Starting ]
536
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,719
[ Shatner Narrating ]Well, I hope you enjoyed...
537
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:46,721
a look at my first 82 yearsin show business.
538
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,725
I know I have.
539
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,741
Y'all gotta get some sleep
before Mr. Shatner comes in
in the morning.
540
00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,754
So y'all not gonna
rest at all.
541
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,747
He's gonna be on
the full tilt piece.
542
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:13,750
What you sayin'?
543
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,752
What are you
talkin' about?
544
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,764
I'll say it. Yeah,
yeah. Play this back
for him.
545
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,756
I know what I'm
talking about.
I've seen it.
546
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:21,759
Whoa. We're gonna--
547
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Well, we need
to do this,
go over there.
548
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,773
We need to see.
Come-- Come here.
549
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:29,766
Work with me now.
[ Chuckles ]
550
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:32,768
Um, no, no.
Just move over here
for me.
551
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,771
You know, like this.
Yeah.
552
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,773
I'm not trying
to imitate him.
553
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,775
I'm talkin' about
what I see.
554
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:41,779
[ Chuckles ]
What?
555
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,788
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