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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:43,050 Them crazy- them crazy 2 00:00:43,050 --> 00:00:45,010 The man who's thinking and worrying about getting hit 3 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:47,130 is not gonna have a good sense of anticipation. 4 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:50,070 He will in fact get hit. 5 00:00:50,070 --> 00:00:54,140 Gotta be clever, gotta be smart, and not get hit. 6 00:00:54,140 --> 00:00:58,080 And when you're able to do this, you're a fighter. 7 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,230 I'm still the fastest, the most scientific, the greatest 8 00:01:01,230 --> 00:01:03,180 fighter of all time! 9 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:20,020 Muhammad Ali has won by a knockout. 10 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:22,170 45 is not a death sentence. 11 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:26,150 We can do anything we wanna do. 12 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:28,020 It happened, it happened! 13 00:01:32,010 --> 00:01:34,120 Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you. 14 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Lennox the conqueror? 15 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,180 No, I'm Alexander. 16 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:37,220 He's no Alexander. 17 00:01:37,220 --> 00:01:40,030 I'm the best ever. 18 00:01:40,030 --> 00:01:40,180 I'm just ferocious. 19 00:01:40,180 --> 00:01:41,080 I want your heart. 20 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,120 I wanna eat his children. 21 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,070 Tell Mike Tyson either put up or shut up. 22 00:01:46,070 --> 00:01:47,230 This is the heart of the sweet science. 23 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:49,020 It's not no street fighting. 24 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,110 He knows what he can eat. 25 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:58,200 Are we ever going to see, given all the obstacles, Tyson 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 and Lewis in the ring together? 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,220 Mike Tyson has shown he just doesn't want to fight yet. 28 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:04,220 I wouldn't be afraid to say that Lewis is the best 29 00:02:04,220 --> 00:02:06,000 fighter on the scene now. 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,070 Period. 31 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:08,110 I just come to conquer. 32 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,090 The heavyweight champion 33 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:26,010 of the world, the most coveted title in all sports, 34 00:02:26,010 --> 00:02:37,000 held by George Foreman, the strongest, Joe Lewis, the most 35 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:46,220 iconic, Rocky Marciano, the most unbeatable, Mike 36 00:02:46,220 --> 00:02:54,030 Tyson, the baddest man on the planet, Muhammad Ali, 37 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:54,170 the greatest. 38 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,140 Who is this man, this heavyweight champion 39 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:04,050 of the world? 40 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:15,010 We gonna chase those crazy baldheads out of town. 41 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:23,030 Chase those crazy baldheads out of our town. 42 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:29,210 I and I build a cabin. 43 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:33,150 I and I plant the corn. 44 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:39,020 Didn't my people before me slave for this country. 45 00:03:42,230 --> 00:03:45,020 When music plays, I feel no pain. 46 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:54,150 Muhammad Ali said the sweet science is hit and not get hit. 47 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:58,210 Lennox is a very measured and calculating man. 48 00:03:58,210 --> 00:04:02,140 He's like an onion that you keep peeling back, 49 00:04:02,140 --> 00:04:04,150 and you think, oh, I've got it. 50 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:05,050 And then, no. 51 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:08,150 You realize, no, it goes even further. 52 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:11,060 His personality is really like a lion. 53 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:12,160 He's this big guy. 54 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,110 He's ferocious-looking at times when he wants to be, 55 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:18,060 but he's also very gentle. 56 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:19,150 As the world heavyweight champion, 57 00:04:19,150 --> 00:04:22,200 you are seen as the most dangerous man on the planet. 58 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,130 That's what I always admired about Lennox. 59 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:27,160 He never showed his anger in public. 60 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:32,140 There was something about him that made 61 00:04:32,140 --> 00:04:34,070 him unique to other sportsmen. 62 00:04:48,130 --> 00:04:50,100 I just fancy Tyson for some reason. 63 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:52,210 A smart man will beat a strong man any day. 64 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:55,080 And Lennox Lewis is a smart fighter. 65 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,130 Lennox Lewis after three rounds. 66 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:58,050 Tyson, round four. 67 00:04:58,050 --> 00:05:00,060 We're gonna have Lewis in five rounds. 68 00:05:00,060 --> 00:05:01,090 And Lewis is gonna get it. 69 00:05:01,090 --> 00:05:02,070 You think Lewis is gonna-- 70 00:05:02,070 --> 00:05:02,230 He's gonna get it. 71 00:05:10,050 --> 00:05:14,220 Everybody that I boxed had a math problem. 72 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:18,010 And the math problem was down for me to solve. 73 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:21,190 Folks really seem to pay more attention 74 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:26,040 to where he's from than what he's actually accomplished. 75 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,190 Being the undisputed unified heavyweight champ 76 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:32,230 meant that Lennox had the IBF belt, IBO belt, 77 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:35,230 and the most coveted, the WBC belt, 78 00:05:35,230 --> 00:05:39,220 claimed before by greats like Muhammad Ali and Joe Lewis. 79 00:05:39,220 --> 00:05:42,230 How did he make it to the doorstep of history, 80 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:46,150 to one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time? 81 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:50,030 You have to take a look at his story from the beginning. 82 00:05:50,030 --> 00:05:52,070 Lennox was born in the impoverished East 83 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:53,150 End of London. 84 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:55,090 He was raised by his mother, Violet, 85 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:58,120 who had come to England from Jamaica to work as a nurse 86 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,180 in search of a better life. 87 00:06:05,190 --> 00:06:10,030 See, I didn't grow up with my brothers and sisters. 88 00:06:10,030 --> 00:06:14,110 My mother have 12 of us, so I grow up with another family. 89 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:18,060 I don't blame her, because she couldn't manage us. 90 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:22,070 12 kids, no husband, you know? 91 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:24,160 Lennox's father had started a new family 92 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,110 and was completely absent from his life. 93 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:29,080 I met my dad one day. 94 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,070 There was a car outside, nice-looking car. 95 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:36,090 And a guy in the car, and he said, come here. 96 00:06:36,090 --> 00:06:38,100 And I was like looking at him, like who are you? 97 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:40,180 He said, I'm your father. 98 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:41,180 I said, oh. 99 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:44,110 He said that he wanted to be in my life, 100 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:48,200 But his wife was fighting against me, 101 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,090 so I was like that kid in the middle. 102 00:06:51,090 --> 00:06:53,230 I just walked back in the house, and my mom 103 00:06:53,230 --> 00:06:55,120 said, well, who's that? 104 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,180 And I said, that's my dad. 105 00:06:56,180 --> 00:07:00,120 Then she went out into the road, and she was arguing bad, 106 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,100 like she was cussing him. 107 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:05,050 And I was like, you know, confused. 108 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:07,180 And when she came back in, she was upset. 109 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:09,080 So we really never talked about it. 110 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:16,010 And then that was the only time I kind of remember, you know, 111 00:07:16,010 --> 00:07:18,040 my dad. 112 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,230 When Lennox was seven, his mother 113 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:22,050 found a better paying job in Canada 114 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:24,100 and had to leave him behind in London. 115 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:27,070 She was basically searching for a new horizon, 116 00:07:27,070 --> 00:07:29,000 a different way of life. 117 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,190 You know, she said she had a friend in Canada. 118 00:07:30,190 --> 00:07:32,130 She went to visit. 119 00:07:32,130 --> 00:07:33,210 And she was over there for a while, 120 00:07:33,210 --> 00:07:36,140 and she left me with this lady named Miss Baker. 121 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:40,050 For some reason, Miss Baker was real mean to me. 122 00:07:40,050 --> 00:07:43,070 While I was in bed at night, she would come over. 123 00:07:43,070 --> 00:07:46,020 I would wake up, look up my eyes, and I see her, 124 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,150 and her eyes and would be looking at me. 125 00:07:47,150 --> 00:07:49,120 And it was like, that would scare me. 126 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,100 And I remember one time I was going into the bath, 127 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:58,100 and then she was coming in there with a belt to try and beat me. 128 00:07:58,100 --> 00:08:02,030 And I remember jumping out the bath and running past her, 129 00:08:02,030 --> 00:08:04,200 and running outside the house, and I was outside the house, 130 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,080 and I was nude outside the house. 131 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,010 And she was going, "oh, come in. 132 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:10,150 Come on, come on, come inside. 133 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:12,130 I'm gonna put the belt down." 134 00:08:12,130 --> 00:08:14,070 "No, I ain't coming back in. 135 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:16,040 I want people to come and see you and make 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,180 you embarrassed about that." 137 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:19,130 And she was. 138 00:08:19,130 --> 00:08:21,000 She was very embarrassed about it. 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,100 Police came and said, well, what's going on? 140 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:27,110 And then I remember Miss Baker being upset, saying, "boy, I 141 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:30,030 don't know why your mother don't call for you and send for you 142 00:08:30,030 --> 00:08:31,210 and get you out of my house." 143 00:08:31,210 --> 00:08:33,180 And you know, they took me away from her 144 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:35,170 and put me in this home. 145 00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:39,170 You know, I basically felt like I was abandoned. 146 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:42,040 I was out there by myself. 147 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,070 He ended up passing through a number of boarding 148 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:46,180 schools and getting kicked out for fighting 149 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:49,130 until he finally ended up in a school for troubled youth. 150 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:52,120 Lennox most definitely would have been part of a gang 151 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,160 and been mixed up in all sorts of skulduggery at that time. 152 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,140 And it was actually much better for him 153 00:08:57,140 --> 00:08:59,140 that he had left England and went 154 00:08:59,140 --> 00:09:02,070 to Canada to stay with our mum. 155 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:06,140 When my mother sent for me and I took that plane, 156 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:09,200 we were going through the airport, and all I could hear 157 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,030 was my mum's voice. 158 00:09:12,030 --> 00:09:15,210 I didn't hear it for years, and I heard her voice. 159 00:09:15,210 --> 00:09:19,070 She was like, "there's my son, there's my son!" 160 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:24,030 And it was loud, and it was like music to my ears, you know. 161 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,110 At first, he was like a bit of a rebel. 162 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:27,040 Was he? 163 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,110 Yeah, he used to get in fights, 164 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:32,040 and the teacher used to phone me at work, 165 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,170 and then I'd have to leave work and come home and get him. 166 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:37,070 And sometimes I'd meet him on the way coming 167 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:41,050 home with his lunch pail. 168 00:09:41,050 --> 00:09:42,080 So-- 169 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,210 When he first came to Kitchener, 170 00:09:43,210 --> 00:09:46,010 it was basically just him and his mom. 171 00:09:46,010 --> 00:09:47,180 Because he was the new guy on the block, 172 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:49,200 they tried to pick on him a little bit, right? 173 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,150 Because he wasn't always that big. 174 00:09:51,150 --> 00:09:53,020 You know? 175 00:09:53,020 --> 00:09:55,040 By bringing Lennox to Canada, 176 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,130 Violet had completely changed the course of his life. 177 00:09:58,130 --> 00:10:01,080 He easily could have become a victim of police brutality 178 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,220 on the streets of London. 179 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:05,020 Racial tensions grew between the cops 180 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:08,060 and the black immigrant community in the '70s and '80s, 181 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:11,120 resulting in violent clashes like the Brixton riots. 182 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,220 But in Canada, when Lennox got into trouble 183 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:16,040 with law enforcement, they did something 184 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,100 completely unexpected. 185 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:23,040 Why don't you go down to the police club and try out boxing? 186 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Hook McComb, he was a staff sergeant for the Waterloo 187 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,110 Regional Police. 188 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:30,010 My trainer said, go, I want you 189 00:10:30,010 --> 00:10:31,110 to move around with this kid. 190 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:35,090 Bobby Prue was smaller than me, lighter than me, 191 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:37,200 and I was bigger than him and more lankier. 192 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,190 He was dancing circles around me. 193 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:41,140 I was swinging away, trying to hit him, 194 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:42,220 and I couldn't hit him. 195 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:44,140 And he hit me in my nose. 196 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:47,000 I'm like, ah, my eyes started watering. 197 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 The only boxing I knew was like Muhammad Ali, because we 198 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,070 used to watch him on TV. 199 00:10:51,070 --> 00:10:55,060 So I pretended I was Muhammad Ali moving around. 200 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:56,110 And it was like a game to me. 201 00:10:56,110 --> 00:10:58,220 It was like a game of tag. 202 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:01,160 That's when I realized that I enjoyed boxing. 203 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,070 I loved it. 204 00:11:03,070 --> 00:11:05,190 Hook McComb taught me and Lennox for a long time. 205 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:10,040 As the years went on and Arnie came into the picture. 206 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Lennox came down with a couple of his friends 207 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,080 to our boxing gym in Kitchener. 208 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,020 He stood out immediately as a little bigger than the others, 209 00:11:18,020 --> 00:11:20,190 and showed an interest. 210 00:11:20,190 --> 00:11:24,100 And the biggest thing I noticed, and the most important thing I 211 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,200 noticed, he listened. 212 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,140 He would look at you and hang on to every word that you said. 213 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:37,220 So much credit of how Lennox developed should go to Arnie. 214 00:11:37,220 --> 00:11:39,120 He was a rock. 215 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,120 He was his coach, but he was also a father figure to him. 216 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,040 They had a relationship that extended way past boxing. 217 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,090 Arnie was always there for Lennox. 218 00:11:50,090 --> 00:11:53,020 And kind of turned into a dad figure. 219 00:11:53,020 --> 00:11:54,160 We went camping together. 220 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,020 We went fishing together. 221 00:11:56,020 --> 00:12:01,170 Lennox and I met when we were 11, almost 12 years old. 222 00:12:01,170 --> 00:12:05,090 We both played inner city football here in Kitchener. 223 00:12:05,090 --> 00:12:08,000 Once we played, that's how we got to know each other. 224 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,030 As we both grew up, 12, 13, through those years 225 00:12:12,030 --> 00:12:13,160 we became friends. 226 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,060 I knew him from football. 227 00:12:15,060 --> 00:12:18,000 Some of my friends knew him from basketball. 228 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Other friends knew him from boxing. 229 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,020 The friendship developed from there until we ended up here 230 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:27,150 at Cameron Heights as schoolmates 231 00:12:27,150 --> 00:12:30,200 and teammates on the same football team at 16. 232 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,190 You got that man. 233 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:34,100 Come on, mate. 234 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:35,080 Let's go. 235 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,100 Nah, I can't even believe you're doing that. 236 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:38,010 We gotta go. 237 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:39,040 No way. 238 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,010 They're waiting on us. 239 00:12:40,010 --> 00:12:40,150 No, no. 240 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:42,200 That's no excuse. 241 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,050 That's his favorite trick. 242 00:12:46,180 --> 00:12:48,190 Every time he's losing, he walks away. 243 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:51,070 "We've got some more important to do." 244 00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:55,040 To win the championship, I mean, having Lennox 245 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,130 made me look like a genius. 246 00:12:57,130 --> 00:13:00,230 It was basically pitch the ball athletics, 247 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:03,120 and have Courtney Shand lead block. 248 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,170 I remember we played in the finals, the city finals. 249 00:13:07,170 --> 00:13:11,120 We lost to Eastwood Collegiate 20 to 1. 250 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,080 We're all sitting on the bus, coming home from the stadium. 251 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Everyone's crying, and I'm sitting beside him, 252 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,130 and I had my head down. 253 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:21,140 I was crying. 254 00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:24,070 I look up, and he's just looking around on the bus. 255 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:27,180 And I'm like, hey, how come you're not sad? 256 00:13:27,180 --> 00:13:32,070 And he said, "because I've got bigger things to come." 257 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:34,010 He worked his way up through the ranks. 258 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:37,020 Started getting a little better and going to tournaments 259 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:39,000 in Sully's in Toronto. 260 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,100 And he kept going. 261 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:45,060 And next thing you know it, he's a national champion, and then 262 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:46,100 the Olympics. 263 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:48,030 At Olympic training camp, 264 00:13:48,030 --> 00:13:51,190 Lennox would meet another soon to be world champion. 265 00:13:51,190 --> 00:13:55,010 Ladies and gentlemen, the heavyweight championship 266 00:13:55,010 --> 00:13:58,150 of the 1981 National Junior Olympic 267 00:13:58,150 --> 00:14:01,210 Boxing Championships from Catskill, New York, 268 00:14:01,210 --> 00:14:06,040 15-year-old Mike Tyson. 269 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,090 Bombs away, Jimmy. 270 00:14:07,090 --> 00:14:09,000 Let's watch just carefully. 271 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,110 Because Tyson in the blue is a bomber. 272 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:14,220 He's trained by no other than Cus D'Amato. 273 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:17,120 Oh, and there it's all over. 274 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,110 First time I ever met Lennox Lewis was in the Catskills. 275 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:22,200 He was a real nice guy, really talked proper. 276 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,220 He was really enthusiastic about boxing. 277 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:28,010 The first day he and Mike sparred, Mike almost 278 00:14:28,010 --> 00:14:30,000 took his head off. 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,000 The next day they watched some footage of Joe Frazier 280 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,100 and Muhammad Ali, the Thriller in Manila. 281 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:41,050 Arnie told him, this is how you have to box Mike. 282 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:43,040 So he went out, and he did that, and he 283 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,180 beat up on Mike that day. 284 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:48,110 Cus D'Amato stopped the fight and told them both that day 285 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:52,120 you both are ordained to become world champions. 286 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,070 You both will dominate the sport. 287 00:14:55,070 --> 00:14:58,120 Cus got pretty friendly with my mother before she died. 288 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,060 She didn't think I was gonna do so good in this boxing thing. 289 00:15:01,060 --> 00:15:03,090 She thought it was all like hype. 290 00:15:03,090 --> 00:15:05,020 I wanted to be successful. 291 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:06,190 That would be something my mother would have wanted. 292 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:11,060 Cus, he adopted me, so he's my father figure, yeah. 293 00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:15,140 That's all I knew as a father figure. 294 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:17,180 Both Tyson and Lewis had their eyes set 295 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:19,210 on winning the '84 Olympics. 296 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:23,140 Tyson's hopes were diminished in the Olympic qualifying match, 297 00:15:23,140 --> 00:15:25,100 while Lewis made the Canadian team 298 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:28,190 but eventually ended up losing in the quarterfinals. 299 00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:30,210 Well, it was a real bummer, you know? 300 00:15:30,210 --> 00:15:34,200 We both hung out after he lost his match to Tyrell Biggs, 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,160 and then decided to turn pro. 302 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,050 Over the next few years, 303 00:15:38,050 --> 00:15:40,170 Tyson's professional career took off. 304 00:15:40,170 --> 00:15:43,060 He became the youngest heavyweight champ in history. 305 00:15:43,060 --> 00:15:45,230 All the while, Lennox was fighting the amateur circuit 306 00:15:45,230 --> 00:15:47,220 with the desire to hone his craft 307 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:49,190 and get back to the Olympics. 308 00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:52,010 He was training in Kitchener with a very good 309 00:15:52,010 --> 00:15:55,120 friend of mine, Harvey Dean. 310 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,090 His natural ability to punch was there. 311 00:15:59,090 --> 00:16:02,190 Now we had to work on the power of punching. 312 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:07,030 I started training with Lennox at the training center Arnie. 313 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:09,100 Arnie would come, and Adrian would come. 314 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:11,020 And you know, he was a big talented kid, 315 00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:12,170 a world junior champion. 316 00:16:12,170 --> 00:16:14,110 I'm nervous as usual. 317 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:15,200 You know, I'm fighting the guy. 318 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,010 I'm a middleweight, and he's like a heavyweight or something 319 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:20,190 and shit. 320 00:16:20,190 --> 00:16:24,010 Lennox and Egerton, they were sparring together. 321 00:16:24,010 --> 00:16:27,010 They were training together like brothers. 322 00:16:27,010 --> 00:16:29,020 We got in the ring, we started-- we rumbled, man. 323 00:16:29,020 --> 00:16:31,090 I came at him with all I-- 324 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:32,130 I was bringing the fire. 325 00:16:32,130 --> 00:16:34,090 Egerton was good for Lennox in that 326 00:16:34,090 --> 00:16:39,050 because of his work ethics and his tenacity, it pushed Lennox. 327 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,220 You've got a guy now, you're fighting in the amateurs now. 328 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,190 You're fighting at a higher level. 329 00:16:43,190 --> 00:16:48,030 In 1988, Lennox would travel to Seoul, South Korea 330 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:51,060 to compete once again and go for the Olympic gold 331 00:16:51,060 --> 00:16:53,130 medal for Canada. 332 00:16:53,130 --> 00:16:57,110 He had gone to the opening ceremony in Seoul 333 00:16:57,110 --> 00:17:01,200 and left the Canadian delegation and walked across the field 334 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,150 to the American delegation, walked up 335 00:17:03,150 --> 00:17:06,000 to some American athletes and said, 336 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,070 "which one's Riddick Bowe? 337 00:17:07,070 --> 00:17:08,220 Show me Riddick Bowe." 338 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:11,110 And they had pointed him to Bowe, and he walked up to Bowe 339 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:13,010 and said, "are you Riddick Bowe? 340 00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:15,080 I'm going to knock you out." 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,150 The first round when he went out there, I was pissed, 342 00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:18,200 because he wasn't doing nothing. 343 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,010 I was like, what the hell? 344 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:23,080 Me and Adrian was jumping up at the side of the ring, saying, 345 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,150 what the hell are you doing? 346 00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:26,040 Bowe was beating him to the punch. 347 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,170 He had a little bit more urgency. 348 00:17:28,170 --> 00:17:30,170 This has the makings to be the most 349 00:17:30,170 --> 00:17:31,230 interesting fight of the tournament 350 00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:33,050 or the bomb of the tournament. 351 00:17:33,050 --> 00:17:35,090 I think Lennox got hurt with that uppercut right 352 00:17:35,090 --> 00:17:36,080 hand there a moment ago. 353 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,160 It seemed to stun him momentarily. 354 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,090 Adrian was yelling. 355 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:39,210 I was yelling. 356 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:41,140 Right, because we knew. 357 00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:43,130 We knew Lennox had the ability to beat anybody 358 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:45,070 if he puts his mind to fight. 359 00:17:45,070 --> 00:17:46,010 Came in the corner. 360 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:48,080 I said, Lennox, wake up, man. 361 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,210 He went there, first punch-- 362 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:53,180 knockout. 363 00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:01,230 Canada's first gold medal in 56 years. 364 00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:11,020 I don't think I have ever been that proud. 365 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:16,030 The feeling is just indescribable. 366 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:17,160 My dream was to have an Olympic champion. 367 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:27,130 Most of the guys within the past several decades 368 00:18:27,130 --> 00:18:30,150 who have won the Olympic heavyweight gold medal 369 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:32,130 have gone on to become the heavyweight champion 370 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:33,100 of the world. 371 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:36,040 And so Lennox had the pedigree. 372 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,040 The only question was, would he fulfill it? 373 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,060 Winning the Olympic gold medal is really a gold ticket 374 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:44,220 into the professionals. 375 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:47,080 So it puts you at a high standard. 376 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,180 And the standard is, OK, all the top promoters 377 00:18:50,180 --> 00:18:52,060 are looking at you. 378 00:18:52,060 --> 00:18:54,110 So at this time, there was Don King. 379 00:18:54,110 --> 00:18:57,070 He was really focusing on Mike Tyson at the time. 380 00:18:57,070 --> 00:18:59,000 There was the Duvas. 381 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,220 There was Micky Duff in England. 382 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:06,030 A lot of different promoters wanted to sign me. 383 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:08,170 We actually visited a couple of them. 384 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:11,020 And I was like, wow, everybody sounds so good. 385 00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:12,200 Who do I pick? 386 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,190 And Arnie said, well, follow your heart. 387 00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:17,050 He said, well, you know, we're looking at all the offers. 388 00:19:17,050 --> 00:19:19,180 I said, well, it's funny you should say that. 389 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:22,090 We've got a guy in England. 390 00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:23,170 Why don't you come over to England 391 00:19:23,170 --> 00:19:25,080 and see what we can do over there? 392 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,070 He flew into Heathrow Airport, and I met him at the airport 393 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:29,110 that morning. 394 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:31,220 And when he put his hand out, it was just like a shovel 395 00:19:31,220 --> 00:19:33,080 coming out to meet me. 396 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,210 And I was like, god, he's bloody big. 397 00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:39,020 Then I thought, you are a perfect specimen of a fighter. 398 00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:42,180 You know, I decided to go back to England because I virtually 399 00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:45,030 could write my own contract. 400 00:19:45,030 --> 00:19:48,050 Lennox triumphantly returned home to his birthplace 401 00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:50,170 to start his professional career with the most 402 00:19:50,170 --> 00:19:53,060 brazen promoter in Britain, a man 403 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:56,140 who was hiding a deep secret. 404 00:19:56,140 --> 00:20:00,010 From day one, we started with this dream 405 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:02,100 that we were Britain's first world heavyweight champion, 406 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,010 or Lennox wants to be the undisputed world 407 00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:04,200 heavyweight champion. 408 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,230 And it's my job to do my best to get 409 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:11,020 that fight made for Lennox Lewis and to guide him in that path. 410 00:20:11,020 --> 00:20:13,060 Lennox's team was quite unique. 411 00:20:13,060 --> 00:20:16,160 It started off first, it was John Davenport. 412 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,070 John Davenport then brought in Harold 413 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:21,140 knight, who was a fighter that John had trained. 414 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:23,140 When I came up to the training camp, 415 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:26,060 Lennox actually was sleeping in one of the cottages. 416 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:28,120 There was two bedrooms in one cottage, 417 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,000 and I was in the other bedroom. 418 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,060 So I walked in the wrong bedroom, 419 00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:36,050 and soon as I walked in, I see his big old giant stand up 420 00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:37,100 and everything. 421 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:40,040 And that was my first introduction to Lennox Lewis. 422 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 His mum Violet was the captain of the whole training team. 423 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,090 She held the whole team together. 424 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:48,090 I start going with them to the camp, 425 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:51,210 cause I have to do his cooking and look after him. 426 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:54,080 Because he has to eat property. 427 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,060 Well, Mom, she was the boss of the camp, 428 00:20:56,060 --> 00:20:57,220 to be honest with you. 429 00:20:57,220 --> 00:20:59,180 Mom was definitely the boss of the camp, not 430 00:20:59,180 --> 00:21:03,200 only with her cooking, but she was, how can I say, 431 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,070 fair but firm. 432 00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:07,170 She didn't take no mess from anyone. 433 00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:09,160 Lennox quickly won his first 13 434 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080 pro fights and his first championship, 435 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,230 the European Title. 436 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:17,180 Lennox and I had disagreements on where he should come from. 437 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:19,220 I was adamant he should be British, because that was 438 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:21,170 the market we was aiming at. 439 00:21:21,170 --> 00:21:24,030 Lennox sort of went to Canada, and he had that accent, 440 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:25,110 and that might be a little bit why he 441 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:27,020 wasn't taken really seriously. 442 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:31,090 Lennox obviously had Canadian roots, Jamaican roots, 443 00:21:31,090 --> 00:21:32,110 and British roots. 444 00:21:32,110 --> 00:21:35,160 So he wanted to be seen as a man of the world. 445 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000 I mean, I've done some stupid things. 446 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,070 I had Lennox dressed in a top hat and tails with a cane 447 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:42,050 and photographs done with him. 448 00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:43,180 I took him to English football clubs. 449 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:47,180 He went along with it, but some of it grudgingly. 450 00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:51,030 I used to get a lot of shtick from a lot of my friends 451 00:21:51,030 --> 00:21:54,010 and a lot of Americans when I came back home 452 00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:56,090 after one of Lennox's fights, because they 453 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:57,140 didn't accept Lennox. 454 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:01,150 There was always early on this perception 455 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:06,160 that the British accent made him more 456 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,190 civilized than the other characters 457 00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:10,030 with whom he would deal in the division, 458 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:13,170 and he must have a more genteel background than guys who 459 00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:16,140 had come off of rough streets. 460 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:18,200 And of course that was a myth. 461 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,120 Lennox no doubt grew up during hard times in London, 462 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,010 but he was fortunate that the police in Kitchener, Ontario 463 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:28,010 treated him like any other wayward kid 464 00:22:28,010 --> 00:22:31,010 with potential and not a threat because of where he was 465 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:33,140 born or the color of his skin. 466 00:22:33,140 --> 00:22:37,080 At the beginning of the '90s, he kept his sights on the prize, 467 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,150 building a team that would help him rise up through the ranks 468 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:42,010 of heavyweight contenders. 469 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:50,140 At that time I went to school in London, Ontario. 470 00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:55,130 I wanted to be a fitness trainer for pro athletes. 471 00:22:55,130 --> 00:23:00,160 End of 1990, he came to me and said, "look, I need your help. 472 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,000 I need your help. 473 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,020 I'm gonna fight the number three fighter in the world. 474 00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:07,100 I know I can beat him if you help me, 475 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,060 but I need to be stronger." 476 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:11,060 So we agreed to train for one fight. 477 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:12,180 I told him I'd help him for one fight. 478 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,020 I and I build a cabin. 479 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:23,110 I and I plant the corn. 480 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:27,090 Chase those crazy baldheads out of our town. 481 00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:30,070 Lennox surrounded himself with childhood friends, 482 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:31,110 including Egerton Marcus. 483 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:38,170 Lennox, he became-- 484 00:23:38,170 --> 00:23:39,230 that's my brother. 485 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:40,160 That's my brother. 486 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,090 Because when he's in a fight, it's like I'm in a fight. 487 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:48,150 These familiar faces, like his old coach 488 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:54,060 Adrian Teodorescu and Courtney Shand always had Lennox's back, 489 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:58,030 but they also kept him grounded. 490 00:23:58,030 --> 00:24:01,210 He always said to me, "you always have to be honest. 491 00:24:01,210 --> 00:24:04,050 You always have to tell me how things are. 492 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:08,200 Never tell me it's raining when it's sunny, because I'm 493 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,040 going to believe you." 494 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,150 And one day what he did to show me, that day he 495 00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:17,080 told me that we were driving, he closes his eyes and he says-- 496 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,210 Listen, tell me which way to turn. 497 00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:21,100 He's driving, and I'm like, "Lennox, Lennox! 498 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:22,050 What are you doing? 499 00:24:22,050 --> 00:24:22,210 What are you doing?" 500 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,080 And He's like, "just tell me what to do, 501 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,050 tell me what to do." 502 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:28,030 And he had his eyes shuts tight. 503 00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:30,110 I'm looking at him like, are you crazy? 504 00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:34,120 And he goes, "that's the level of trust I need to have. 505 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:38,110 That's what I'm giving to you, and please hold on to it 506 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,090 dearly." 507 00:24:39,090 --> 00:24:41,220 Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to the Omni 508 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:45,100 Arena here in one of America's greatest sports cities, 509 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,150 Atlanta, Georgia. 510 00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:50,170 Lennox Lewis, he is Canadian and English, 511 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:52,000 fighting out of England. 512 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,170 Biggs, of course, four years ago, 513 00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:58,100 was the star heavyweight in the Duvas' main event 514 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,170 stable when he fought against Mike Tyson in 1987 515 00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:03,030 in Atlantic City. 516 00:25:03,030 --> 00:25:06,050 The question I have is whether being an amateur 517 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:09,040 could hurt him in the way it might have hurt Biggs. 518 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,150 In November of 1991, Lennox got the chance 519 00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:18,140 to write what went wrong in the '84 Olympics, a rematch 520 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:21,130 with the man that beat him, Tyrell Biggs. 521 00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:27,090 Lewis comes out firing and lands a right hand. 522 00:25:27,090 --> 00:25:31,220 Lennox Lewis looks like much the stronger guy physically. 523 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:35,110 Looks like he can handle Tyrell on the inside. 524 00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:37,190 Very little head movement for Lewis. 525 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:39,200 Could be a problem later on, particularly 526 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,140 for a guy who's 6'5. 527 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:45,080 And down goes Biggs from the solid right cross. 528 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,020 That's an impressive victory for Lennox Lewis. 529 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:52,190 And I'll go in the ring and find out where he's going from here. 530 00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:55,040 Lennox Lewis is on a mission, and Tyrell Biggs 531 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,160 was a stepping stone. 532 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,100 And all I need is a couple more fights, 533 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,130 and then I'll be in there against the champion. 534 00:26:01,130 --> 00:26:04,020 All right, Larry, so Lennox Lewis takes another step 535 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,050 toward big time heavyweight contention, 536 00:26:06,050 --> 00:26:08,090 and we're gonna talk to one of the big time 537 00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:10,160 heavyweight contenders of all time right now. 538 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,050 George, if you can hear me, what did you think of Lennox Lewis? 539 00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:15,180 I was more than impressed. 540 00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:18,060 He's a great boxer and a good right hand puncher. 541 00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:20,230 I'll tell you this, I don't want any parts of him. 542 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:24,000 This was a fighter that the world was not used to. 543 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,120 Articulate, to himself, contemplative, 544 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,140 not getting into trouble with the law, 545 00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:32,000 a chess player, a thinker. 546 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,040 And you do some meditation. 547 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,120 Can you tell us about that? 548 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,140 Yeah, I think you've got to focus 549 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:38,170 on what you have to accomplish. 550 00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:40,190 And you know, I create my own facade, 551 00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:46,020 so it's very important for me to have an even ground around me. 552 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:47,190 This towering dominant contender 553 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:50,010 for the world heavyweight championship 554 00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:52,080 was mysteriously different. 555 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,210 To take his career to the next level, 556 00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:57,090 he decided to replace John Davenport 557 00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:59,050 with a more seasoned trainer. 558 00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:01,080 It was like a complete 180 in terms 559 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,180 of who he chose as a coach, because he 560 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:06,090 went to every Pepe Correa. 561 00:27:06,090 --> 00:27:07,160 Pepe was flashy. 562 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,230 He liked movement. 563 00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:12,070 He wanted Lennox not to just stand in the middle of the ring 564 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:14,120 and use his pure size. 565 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,170 This guy, when you talk to him, 566 00:27:15,170 --> 00:27:17,130 he gets right into your face, and he listens everything. 567 00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:19,170 He hangs on every word that you say, and he makes it easier. 568 00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,130 He makes my job very, very easy. 569 00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:26,120 With Pepe coming on was the evolution of Lennox as a boxer. 570 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,120 Pure boxer, not just someone that 571 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,170 could throw punches and get you because he was big, 572 00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:34,160 but move, be fluid. 573 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,150 We had I think three or four fights with Pepe, 574 00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:40,040 and they kept getting better. 575 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,070 The big one was when we fought our Donovan Razor Ruddock. 576 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:46,070 I think the only fight I was really worried about for Lennox 577 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:49,090 was the Razor Ruddock fight, because I knew if we'd lost, 578 00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:52,130 that was the end of the whole road and the ride. 579 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:55,040 But it was Lennox who calmed my nerves for that fight. 580 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,120 In my memory, the first of his fights that we covered on HBO 581 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:02,050 was actually Halloween night 1992 in Earls Court 582 00:28:02,050 --> 00:28:04,100 in London versus Razor Ruddock. 583 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,080 The battle between Razor Ruddock and Lennox Lewis 584 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120 for the right to fight the winner of Holyfield-Bowe 585 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,010 for the Heavyweight Championship, 586 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:12,200 an exciting night in London. 587 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,200 I was impressed that he was so relaxed. 588 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,090 Lennox Lewis can probably be one of the greatest fighters 589 00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:21,020 to ever come out of this country. 590 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:23,070 And I remember walking away from the meeting thinking, 591 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:28,090 wow, what a very cool, self-possessed character he is. 592 00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:32,000 I wonder if he knows something that I don't know. 593 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,110 Not since the days of Bob Fitzsimmons and the last decade 594 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:39,010 of the 19th century has an English-born fighter 595 00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,140 held the heavyweight crown. 596 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,220 Lewis initiates the action so far. 597 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:50,140 He says his plan is to stick the jab, 598 00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:54,120 stay relaxed, move away from the left hook, and outbox Ruddock. 599 00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:58,060 Right hand by Lewis. 600 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:00,050 Ruddock goes down! 601 00:29:00,050 --> 00:29:03,040 A smashing right cross with perfect accuracy 602 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,160 behind the jab. 603 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,150 You cannot do it better. 604 00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:10,020 And the wobbling Razor Ruddock-- 605 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,060 Many were assuming that Razor's experience 606 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,150 and ability to take a punch would be too 607 00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:17,040 much for Lennox, who struck many as just 608 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,040 a pretty boy from England. 609 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:24,020 Lewis herding Ruddock with the left hook. 610 00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:27,140 Ruddock in serious trouble as Lewis pounds him to the canvas. 611 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:32,010 Second knockdown of the fight, and already Lennox Lewis 612 00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:34,120 has equalled Mike Tyson's knockout output 613 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,110 against Razor Ruddock in both of the two Tyson-Ruddock fights. 614 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,230 Lennox Lewis is in total command now. 615 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:43,230 Can he finish? 616 00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:47,220 Right hand to the body. 617 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,220 Ruddock in trouble. 618 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:50,210 Second knockdown of round 2. 619 00:29:54,090 --> 00:29:58,080 We have a great new heavyweight on the boxing scene. 620 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,190 Lennox Lewis may turn out to be not only the greatest 621 00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:06,060 heavyweight in British history but the greatest 622 00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:08,180 fighter in European history. 623 00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:10,180 I agree, I agree! 624 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:15,060 By 1992, Ring Magazine had Lennox Lewis all the way up 625 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:19,050 from 9 in 1991 to number two, behind Riddick Bowe, 626 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:21,090 the guy he had already beat. 627 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,130 Tyson was gone. 628 00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:26,040 And in his place, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis's 629 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,140 old Olympic rival, Riddick big daddy Bowe, 630 00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:35,030 began a four year battle for the top spot in heavyweight boxing. 631 00:30:35,030 --> 00:30:36,190 Yo, bring it on, man. 632 00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:38,180 Yeah, I'm gonna bring it. 633 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,160 He's known for sucker punching people, 634 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,070 because I've seen him do it before. 635 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:44,230 So I made sure I had my hands close to my face, 636 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:47,170 ready to block anything he was coming with. 637 00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:50,000 And I said the same thing to him. 638 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,100 "I'm gonna knock you out." 639 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,080 Knock me out. 640 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,180 Knock me out. 641 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,220 During Bowe's second title run with all three belts, 642 00:30:57,220 --> 00:31:01,200 he gave up the most coveted WBC title, the same title 643 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,130 Muhammad Ali fought for. 644 00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:06,000 He mockingly dropped it in a trash 645 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080 while pressed to defend it against Lennox. 646 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,150 Some would say maybe he didn't want to face Lennox. 647 00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:14,000 Some would say maybe he was afraid 648 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,210 that Lennox would kick his ass, just 649 00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,110 like he did in the Olympics. 650 00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:20,030 When Riddick Bowe dumped the belt in the garbage, 651 00:31:20,030 --> 00:31:22,050 Lennox definitely was pissed off. 652 00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:23,210 Disrespect. 653 00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:26,020 That's another reason why I wanted 654 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,160 to beat his ass in the ring. 655 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080 Because of his recent victory over Ruddock, 656 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,230 Lennox was awarded the WBC title, 657 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:37,100 becoming the first British champion in over 100 years. 658 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,200 Lennox had the belt, but he didn't 659 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,140 really win it in the ring. 660 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:45,170 So in his next fight Lennox had something to prove. 661 00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:47,220 In the very first fight, Lennox was the champion 662 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:49,090 because the belt was handed to him, 663 00:31:49,090 --> 00:31:52,120 and the opponent was Tony Tucker, Don King's opponent. 664 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,100 He had this thing about Don King. 665 00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:57,090 Don King was boxing's longest running pimp, 666 00:31:57,090 --> 00:31:59,060 having gone from a neighborhood numbers 667 00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:03,070 running bookie to somehow convincing Muhammad Ali to box 668 00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:08,090 in a charity exhibition to then promoting Ali in the 1974 669 00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:11,110 Rumble in the Jungle, Ali's upset victory 670 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:13,030 over George Foreman. 671 00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:15,050 Throughout his life, Don King proved 672 00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:18,030 that he was a masterful manipulator and the game's 673 00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:19,150 consummate promoter. 674 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:21,190 In the late '80s into the '90s, King 675 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:24,000 had his hooks into Mike Tyson. 676 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,210 Don King is one of the most funniest men I've ever known. 677 00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:31,220 He kept saying, "Lennox, you're the greatest. 678 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:33,030 You should be with me. 679 00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:36,110 You should be with me, come over to the other side!" 680 00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:38,050 Here he comes now! 681 00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:41,120 Greatest heavyweight champion of all time! 682 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040 The baddest man on planet Earth, the 683 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,150 meet and greet the heavyweight champion of the world, 684 00:32:47,150 --> 00:32:49,120 Lennox Lewis! 685 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,230 Lennox Lewis! 686 00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:55,080 And you think, Don, let's get down to the business. 687 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,170 I'm not worth of tying his shoelace. 688 00:32:57,170 --> 00:33:01,010 He's standing beside me, the messiah of boxing. 689 00:33:01,010 --> 00:33:03,160 Yes, Lennox Lewis! 690 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,040 Once the politics, what he called polytricks, once them 691 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,230 polytricks are more or less smoothed out, 692 00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:13,170 Don King thought Tony Tucker would beat Lennox. 693 00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:15,110 King had a reason to be confident. 694 00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:19,160 Tucker's record was 48 in 1, his only last being to Mike Tyson. 695 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,160 But after a 12 round slugfest, Lennox won by decision. 696 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,130 With his title legitimized, next up he would face 697 00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:28,140 fellow englishman Frank Bruno. 698 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:35,100 Great Britain, where prize fighting finds its roots, 699 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:39,110 the past 100 years have given them little reason to cheer. 700 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:41,150 There's a great tradition of boxing in this country. 701 00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:45,000 Unfortunately we don't have too many good fighters these days. 702 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,100 And we certainly haven't had too many good heavyweights. 703 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,070 The last undisputed British heavyweight champion 704 00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:54,080 was Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897. 705 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,220 Not until the arrival of Lennox Lewis in 1992 706 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,040 would the British be able to claim another. 707 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,210 But tonight's event takes on greater significance, 708 00:34:01,210 --> 00:34:04,010 as it marks the first time in history that two 709 00:34:04,010 --> 00:34:05,120 englishmen have battled one another 710 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,150 for a world heavyweight title. 711 00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:09,060 This guys been slagging me down ever since he's 712 00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:10,090 come back from Canada. 713 00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:12,200 I'm going to knock him out, knock him back to Canada. 714 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,230 I'm gonna knock him out so hard that he's got to pay 715 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:16,070 to come back into the hall. 716 00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:17,160 He said he's gonna hit you so hard it's 717 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,060 gonna send you back to Canada. 718 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:22,050 Not a very nice thing to say, but-- 719 00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:25,100 Well, he's trying to scare me, but I can't be faded. 720 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,210 You will be knocked out. 721 00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:29,200 Fight like you will leave your feet. 722 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,090 We'll put you to sleep. 723 00:34:31,090 --> 00:34:33,200 I mean, bring a pillow to ringside for you. 724 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Big boy, you going. 725 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,050 And lest you be confused by that graphic, 726 00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:43,130 keep in mind that Lewis was awarded the WBC 727 00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:48,050 heavyweight championship by that governing body after Riddick 728 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:51,040 Bowe relinquished it rather than to fight 729 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,170 him in a mandatory challenge. 730 00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:55,050 That's why Bruno has the chance to become 731 00:34:55,050 --> 00:35:00,060 the first British heavyweight to win a title in the ring. 732 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:03,190 No heavyweight has looked better in the last couple of years 733 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:06,230 than Lewis with his stunning destruction 734 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:13,050 of Razor Ruddock in 216 seconds in Earls Court last October. 735 00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:17,090 Bruno pounding his fists together to jack himself up. 736 00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:20,190 Mickey Van calls them together, and round 1-- 737 00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:22,140 Good right hand by Bruno! 738 00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:25,140 Bruno has Lewis in serious trouble. 739 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,020 Let's see if Lennox knows how to hold on. 740 00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:32,010 Bruno pounding away to the body. 741 00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:34,170 That right hand is one of the biggest punches Lennox Lewis 742 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:38,040 has ever taken in his career. 743 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,230 Lewis in trouble in the corner. 744 00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:42,020 And lands a sensational left hook. 745 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:44,040 What a comeback by Lewis. 746 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000 Now let's see if he can finish. 747 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,110 Bruno in serious trouble. 748 00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:49,060 He's got him now, if he can finish. 749 00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:51,140 Right hand over the top. 750 00:35:51,140 --> 00:35:54,040 It was a left hook that turned this around 751 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,170 and a frozen Frank Bruno is there kicking punishment. 752 00:35:58,170 --> 00:36:02,000 And making Mickey Van is gonna stop it. 753 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,070 It was a one punch comeback. 754 00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:08,030 Lennox Lewis, desperately behind on the score cards, 755 00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:10,200 produced a sensational left hook. 756 00:36:13,090 --> 00:36:16,160 Lennox started 1994 off with a bang. 757 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,190 He defended his title with an eighth round 758 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:21,090 knockout of Phil Jackson. 759 00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:23,050 Pepe and I would kind of butt heads 760 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:26,040 in terms of what was best for Lennox 761 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,110 in terms of what he wanted. 762 00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:32,040 Where Davenport would say to me, "this is what 763 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,170 I need Lennox to do, do it." 764 00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:36,190 Pepe would always be overseeing and overseeing, 765 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:41,080 and I think that started to rub Lennox the wrong way. 766 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040 We were in training camp for the Oliver 767 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,210 McCall fight in the Catskills. 768 00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:48,080 And I watched Pepe Correa with Lennox. 769 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,110 And Lennox was sparring. 770 00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:51,090 And he caught one of the sparring partners 771 00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:52,080 and wobbled him. 772 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,210 And it was only the first round or second round. 773 00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:56,160 And Pepe went, "that's great, champ. 774 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,080 That's great, champ. 775 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,110 We don't need to see no more." 776 00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:02,200 And I thought, what the hell's he doing? 777 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,160 One round of sparring? 778 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,170 And I sat with Lennox. 779 00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:09,140 And I said, "Lennox, you're not responding to Pepe. 780 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:11,090 Please let me sack Pepe." 781 00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:13,070 I said, I'll help Harold. 782 00:37:13,070 --> 00:37:14,180 I'll help Courtney. 783 00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:16,210 We can get through this, because you trust them. 784 00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:19,140 I said, and they're there for you. 785 00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:22,020 Pepe is a cheerleader. 786 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,050 And Lennox went, "Frank, I can deal with it. 787 00:37:25,050 --> 00:37:26,170 I'll win this fight, and then we'll sit down, 788 00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:28,010 and we'll sort out Pepe." 789 00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:31,020 The Atomic Bull, as Oliver McCall is known, 790 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,200 will exit from his dressing room and make his way to the ring 791 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,150 right now. 792 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:36,210 As you can see, it's the first championship fight for the man 793 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,150 promoted by Don King. 794 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:41,180 It's not unusual for a fighter of his caliber 795 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,090 to get a championship shot. 796 00:37:43,090 --> 00:37:47,180 What is unusual is that somebody like that should be required 797 00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:51,040 to fight for the Heavyweight Championship by somehow 798 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,200 mysteriously being ranked as the top contender. 799 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,070 Record for Lennox Lewis, 25 wins, no losses. 800 00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:02,170 21 wins by knockout, including two 801 00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:05,060 of the three title defenses. 802 00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:07,230 Jim, it looks to me that Oliver McCall is so emotional, 803 00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:09,030 he's crying. 804 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,000 I had the exact same feeling. 805 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,010 He's trying to screw up his courage, 806 00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:15,070 but I think he's wasting energy here. 807 00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:17,000 That's exactly what I said. 808 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200 So after some unusual moments-- 809 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,010 they seem to crop up in every heavyweight championship 810 00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:22,180 fight-- 811 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:23,080 here we go. 812 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,180 The bull has been known to have very, very good stamina. 813 00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:32,110 If the first round is a prototype, 814 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:37,060 so far it's a good one for Oliver McCall. 815 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:40,120 Lennox caught McCall with a good punch in the first round. 816 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,020 And when he came back on his stool, he sat down, 817 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:46,080 and Pepe Correa went to him, "forget everything I've taught. 818 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120 Just go out and knock him out." 819 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,130 You're looking good, OK? 820 00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:51,230 You're fighting a very intelligent fighter. 821 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:53,060 You're taking this next punch away 822 00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:54,030 from him in the right hand. - Right. 823 00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:56,120 He shot it twice, and every time you roll and counter. 824 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,000 You caught him with it once but you're 825 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,100 gonna make him quit throwing it if you keep 826 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,080 throwing everything at him, OK? 827 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,050 Lewis threw more left hands and fewer right 828 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:05,150 hands in the first round than we've 829 00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:12,070 seen him before, Gill, I thought it was by his own fight plan. 830 00:39:12,070 --> 00:39:16,230 But perhaps that's also the fight plan of Stewart. 831 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:17,130 And you know-- 832 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,070 down goes Lewis. 833 00:39:21,070 --> 00:39:22,090 Down goes Lewis. 834 00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:24,190 He caught a short left hand inside. 835 00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:30,180 Six, seven, eight, nine-- 836 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,150 What is this? 837 00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:35,090 The WBC's referee has stopped this fight 838 00:39:35,090 --> 00:39:40,050 after a count to nine with Lewis standing in front of him. 839 00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,000 And we're gonna have a riot here. 840 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,100 Jose Guadalupe Garcia stopped the fight in the second round. 841 00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:50,170 But let's take a look at the punch that put Lewis down. 842 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,220 That's hardly a devastating punch. 843 00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,180 This is really unusual. 844 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:57,020 But when you have a heavyweight championship fight, 845 00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:58,220 the heavyweight champion should have 846 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:03,190 a chance to defend his title almost to the last breath. 847 00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:05,210 It's a strange sport, Gill, and you see 848 00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:08,100 strange things all the time. 849 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,110 You don't wanna leap to too many conclusions too fast, 850 00:40:11,110 --> 00:40:14,000 but you saw the joy with which Don 851 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160 King embraces his return to a part 852 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,020 of the heavyweight championship. 853 00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:20,100 It's been a few years, and he's back. 854 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,160 Returned from almost oblivion. 855 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,070 Back on top again with a heavyweight champion. 856 00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:26,210 Never count him out. 857 00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:29,020 Are we going to see you again, Lennox? 858 00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:29,180 Yes. 859 00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:32,050 I may be down, but I'm not out. 860 00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:33,230 Thank you very much, Lennox. 861 00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:37,000 We were all sad coming back into the hotel room, 862 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,010 you know, with our faces down. 863 00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:44,140 He said to us, "why are we all down? 864 00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:46,080 We shouldn't be down. 865 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,170 You know, I'm gonna come back, and I'm gonna beat this guy." 866 00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:52,110 That morning, about 5:00 in the morning, 867 00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:54,160 both he and Frank Maloney, they were 868 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,130 already plotting how we were gonna 869 00:40:57,130 --> 00:40:59,030 go back and get the title. 870 00:40:59,030 --> 00:41:00,200 Lennox maintained the same core 871 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000 team throughout his career. 872 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,230 People like Courtney and Egerton, who we grew up with, 873 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:09,020 or like Herald Knight, who was right 874 00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:12,170 there at the start of his career, people that kept him 875 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,060 grounded. 876 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:17,210 But at critical points, Lennox always found a better captain 877 00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:19,230 to steer the ship, especially when it 878 00:41:19,230 --> 00:41:23,010 went through turbulent waters. 879 00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:26,210 After the upset victory of Oliver McCall, who 880 00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:30,110 better to hire than the architect of his only loss, 881 00:41:30,110 --> 00:41:33,040 Emanuel Steward? 882 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,050 Emanuel Steward was good friends 883 00:41:35,050 --> 00:41:38,020 with one of my first mentors, John Davenport. 884 00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:44,130 So when he came with us, our team with Lennox Lewis, 885 00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:47,090 I was more happy than Lennox, because, man, 886 00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:49,030 Steward was like a sage. 887 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:50,030 He was a guru. 888 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:54,190 Frank Maloney and myself, after Lennox got knocked out 889 00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:59,100 by Oliver McCall, we literally pulled Emanuel Steward right 890 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,210 then and there in the ring, you're coming 891 00:42:01,210 --> 00:42:03,130 with us from here on out. 892 00:42:03,130 --> 00:42:06,210 Before engineering Lennox's only defeat, 893 00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,100 Emanuel Steward had developed a reputation 894 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,160 for turning good boxes into champions 895 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,140 of the highest caliber. 896 00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:16,120 When I first became involved with Lennox, 897 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,140 Lennox actually was too tentative and too cautious. 898 00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:21,220 But I've always predicted that Lennox Lewis would 899 00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:24,170 be a great heavyweight, was possibly the best heavyweight 900 00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:26,200 out there, even when I was training Evander 901 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,210 Holyfield and Oliver McCall. 902 00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:31,220 Particularly the fights where people are questioning 903 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:35,040 his toughness, I would say. 904 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,110 Those seem to be the fights that motivate him the most. 905 00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:39,090 One of the things that made Emanuel Steward the greatest 906 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:41,160 boxing trainer of all time, in my personal view, 907 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,030 was that he perfectly understood that every single fighter comes 908 00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:49,070 from a different incubus, a different background. 909 00:42:49,070 --> 00:42:52,210 And he wanted to know who they were, and know what made 910 00:42:52,210 --> 00:42:55,140 them tick, and respond to that. 911 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,200 The first time I actually met Emanuel Steward, 912 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,140 he said he watched me boxing, and he thinks 913 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:03,050 I have a lot of natural talent, and he thinks 914 00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:04,060 I'll be a champion one day. 915 00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:06,220 But he told me that way when I was an amateur. 916 00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:08,080 And then we picked him up at the airport, 917 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,070 went out for dinner, and Lennox, while we 918 00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,050 were having dinner, started saying "Manny, 919 00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:14,160 tell me how you beat me." 920 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,230 And he'd get up and he'd demonstrate. 921 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:18,230 "I saw you doing this. 922 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:20,140 This is what we looked for. 923 00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:22,070 We knew this was one of your tendencies, 924 00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:25,060 and we wanted to lure you into this position. 925 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:27,020 We're gonna get in the gym, and I'm gonna change that, 926 00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:29,060 so you never get caught with that punch again." 927 00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:30,160 He said to Lennox, "I want you in the gym 928 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,210 tomorrow morning, 9:00." 929 00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:35,140 The one thing that was different about Manny, 930 00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:38,110 he got right in the ring, and he showed you. 931 00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:40,120 I went to meet with Lennox, and after the meeting 932 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,010 I had a good feeling. 933 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:43,190 And we worked out in the gym. 934 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:46,110 There was very good chemistry between Lennox and I. 935 00:43:46,110 --> 00:43:50,220 And I decided that I was gonna do it. 936 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:55,000 When Emanuel took over, I think 937 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,220 more of the technical side came out in Lennox. 938 00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:02,070 It was more about boxing, more about the jab, 939 00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:05,070 more about the uppercut, the right hook. 940 00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:09,050 He wasn't just a trainer, a coach, a mentor. 941 00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:10,220 He was a people's person. 942 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:13,160 He used to take myself, obviously Lennox Lewis, 943 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,200 and Courtney Shand driving around town in his candy 944 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,170 apple Rolls Royce with the white top, with the white top down. 945 00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:27,030 And that personal relationship, he used to talk with Lennox. 946 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:28,170 He used to talk with all of us. 947 00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:31,110 We always went to camp for like almost 12 weeks. 948 00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:34,140 The first week was just, I want you guys to sleep. 949 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:36,150 I want you guys to get some rest. 950 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:37,110 We're gonna get up. 951 00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:39,110 We're not gonna start training right away. 952 00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:41,140 Just come in, rest. 953 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:44,090 You remember Pepe Correa, who was Lewis's trainer, 954 00:44:44,090 --> 00:44:46,140 fired after Lewis's loss to Oliver McCall. 955 00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:50,120 Tonight, he will work in Lionel Butler's corner. 956 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,220 Emanuel Steward trained Evander Holyfield to his upset victory 957 00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:58,220 over Riddick Bowe, and then trained 958 00:44:58,220 --> 00:45:03,100 McCall, as we've mentioned, to his victory over Lewis. 959 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:06,190 Lewis suddenly doing a lot of work with the left hand. 960 00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:09,210 And that is relatively new. 961 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:12,100 Go out there and jump on this. 962 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,190 You gotta jump on him, hit him in the head. 963 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:16,010 Keep your right hand up. 964 00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:20,070 Your biggest mistake is your right hand is too low. 965 00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:24,020 And that right hand might be enough to finish it. 966 00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,020 And it is. 967 00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:28,230 And the thunder is still there in Lennox Lewis's right hand. 968 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:31,000 Lennox Lewis has got this punching power. 969 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,110 All he needs is a little more confident. 970 00:45:32,110 --> 00:45:34,020 This guy can rule the heavyweight division 971 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:37,000 for a long time with that extra reach he has. 972 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,150 Resistance. 973 00:45:37,150 --> 00:45:39,130 There's a lot of it. 974 00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:43,010 He's caught here and .. 975 00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:45,010 It stopped. 976 00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:47,010 Even before he hit the floor, Roy 977 00:45:47,010 --> 00:45:48,070 decided that that was enough. 978 00:45:48,070 --> 00:45:51,100 His were blocked by Lennox Lewis's arms. 979 00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,200 And there's a monumental uppercut. 980 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,180 This is the best Lewis we've seen 981 00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:59,160 in a while, much more measured, less wild, better footwork. 982 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,210 Much better footwork. 983 00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:03,000 Lane is getting very close to a stoppage here. 984 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,160 You get that sense. 985 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080 Now goes Morrison again. 986 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,190 A terrific performance by Lennox Lewis. 987 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:12,060 Defensively he kept that right hand up, 988 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:16,120 so that he completely neutralized Tommy Morrison's 989 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,040 outstanding left hook. 990 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,170 You describe for us how you were different, 991 00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:23,110 or how you felt different in this fight 992 00:46:23,110 --> 00:46:25,010 than you have in some other fights. 993 00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:26,080 Differently Emanuel Steward. 994 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080 I have to give credit to Emanuel Steward and the team 995 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,180 behind me, Courtney Shand, Harold the Shadow Knight. 996 00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:32,110 They've helped me develop this. 997 00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:34,230 Lennox beat Tommy Morrison in brutal fashion. 998 00:46:38,110 --> 00:46:40,150 Meanwhile, Tyson was out of prison 999 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:44,000 and making his own comeback, winning the WBC belt 1000 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,080 for the second time after he defeated 1001 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,170 Frank Bruno, who had won it by beating Oliver McCall. 1002 00:46:50,170 --> 00:46:53,160 Every fight brought us a new objective. 1003 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,010 I wanted to know that if a man's blocking my jab 1004 00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:58,220 and he's learned to control my job, well, 1005 00:46:58,220 --> 00:47:00,020 I've got a right hand. 1006 00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:01,220 If he's learned to control that right hand, 1007 00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:03,210 I've got an uppercut hook. 1008 00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:12,180 For the winner on a split decision, Lennox Lewis! 1009 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,180 The WBC belt, what happens now? 1010 00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:16,020 If you don't fight Lennox Lewis, they're 1011 00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,000 either gonna take it away or something's gonna happen. 1012 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,020 I take all challengers. 1013 00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:19,180 Line them up. 1014 00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:21,050 After defeating Ray Mercer, 1015 00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:25,090 the WBC named Lennox as Tyson's next mandatory challenge. 1016 00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:27,100 But Tyson's handlers wouldn't agree to a fight 1017 00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:31,020 with Lennox, which led to a rematch with Oliver McCall. 1018 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080 Good combination by Lewis. 1019 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,110 Left hook and a right hand over the top. 1020 00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:46,090 Just take your time, son. 1021 00:47:46,090 --> 00:47:48,210 Start ripping into the body a little bit now, OK? 1022 00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:50,060 You're not pushing back any. 1023 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:51,070 You gonna start pushing back. 1024 00:47:51,070 --> 00:47:53,120 McCall is doing a very strange thing here, folks. 1025 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,180 He's walking around. 1026 00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:56,030 He's wandering around the ring. 1027 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:58,200 He hasn't gone to his corner, and he's trying to figure out 1028 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,020 what's gone wrong. 1029 00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:03,100 Lennox Lewis in an awfully difficult and awkward position. 1030 00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,180 Lewis doing what he has to do. 1031 00:48:09,010 --> 00:48:13,060 You wonder how much longer Mills Lane will allow this to go. 1032 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:17,030 And that's-- that's gonna be it. 1033 00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:19,180 After avenging his only loss by defeating Oliver 1034 00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:24,020 McCall, Lennox dominated his next three opponents, all 1035 00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:26,110 of them top 10 contenders, who many thought 1036 00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:28,070 would give him trouble. 1037 00:48:28,070 --> 00:48:30,230 While Lennox was blazing through the division, 1038 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:33,170 Mike Tyson was struggling to defeat his own demons. 1039 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:40,170 What happened here? 1040 00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:41,160 He got bit, I think. 1041 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,210 My goodness, he's got a bloody right ear! 1042 00:48:43,210 --> 00:48:47,120 Holyfield bit by a dirty Mike Tyson. 1043 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,070 See, look at him. 1044 00:48:48,070 --> 00:48:49,010 You can see it. 1045 00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:50,160 You can see it! 1046 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,030 There it is! 1047 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:54,150 I can't believe what I'm seeing, fellas. 1048 00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:56,180 He's signaling that it's over. 1049 00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:59,010 I think they've just about had enough. 1050 00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:02,200 Tyson showing desperation and biting Holyfield two times. 1051 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,120 Look out now! 1052 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,210 More fighting in the ring After the end of the fight. 1053 00:49:10,210 --> 00:49:13,100 With two victories now over Tyson and Bowe 1054 00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,200 out of the picture, Evander holyfield 1055 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,110 was considered the real deal. 1056 00:49:17,110 --> 00:49:21,080 Lennox ranked number two behind him for three years in a row. 1057 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,050 '96, '97, and '98. 1058 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,100 That had him burning up inside. 1059 00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,070 There was only one way to settle it. 1060 00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:32,070 Riddick Bowe didn't want to fight Lennox, 1061 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:33,220 so Riddick Bowe came to me. 1062 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,170 Tyson didn't fight Lennox. 1063 00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:37,050 He fought me. 1064 00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:40,100 Each and every time that they had an opportunity 1065 00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:44,020 to choose to fight Lennox, they chose to fight me, 1066 00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:46,150 because they thought I was a lesser opponent. 1067 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:47,190 And I always surprised them. 1068 00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:54,160 So out of respect, I had to face him and give him 1069 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,170 the opportunity that he had given 1070 00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:59,080 me of being the three time heavyweight champ of the world. 1071 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040 With a victory over Evander Holyfield, 1072 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,200 Lennox Lewis will become maybe one of the most powerful men 1073 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,140 to ever be in boxing. 1074 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,100 This will take you and bring you into full visualization. 1075 00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:26,050 This is your hour. 1076 00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:28,010 Before you talk about Tyson, Tyson 1077 00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:30,000 will be bigger than the event. 1078 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,030 No matter if you win, you don't win. 1079 00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:32,200 You know what I mean? 1080 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,230 Holyfield has diminished that light. 1081 00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:36,120 You've got it going in here. 1082 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,000 I don't know what it is, but this is the type of fight 1083 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,100 that's got us all excited. 1084 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,040 It broke me out into a cold sweat. 1085 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,160 The time had come for Lennox and Evander Holyfield 1086 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,030 to touch gloves. 1087 00:50:46,030 --> 00:50:49,000 Entire career, two-time heavyweight champion 1088 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,100 of the world, Olympic gold medal winner, 1089 00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,210 it won't mean anything if he does 1090 00:50:52,210 --> 00:50:54,010 not beat Evander Holyfield. 1091 00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:56,140 He will just be another kid with dreadlocks from England. 1092 00:50:56,140 --> 00:51:00,180 I got Sean Connery doing the voiceover on the commercial. 1093 00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:01,090 Get out of here. 1094 00:51:01,090 --> 00:51:02,180 Yeah? 1095 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:04,120 007, baby! 1096 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,050 And what's it been like the last few days in New York? 1097 00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:09,000 Countless press conferences, everybody 1098 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,180 wanting to talk to you? 1099 00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:10,160 You must get fed up with it. 1100 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,000 You must want to get on with it now. 1101 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,040 Yeah, definitely. 1102 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,060 I've done countless interviews asking the same questions 1103 00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:18,130 over and over. 1104 00:51:18,130 --> 00:51:22,180 Now I think these questions need to be answered with a fight. 1105 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:23,200 Believe me, Holyfield gonna put 1106 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,130 something on his hands, man. 1107 00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:26,190 Oh, yeah, he gonna pound on his ass. 1108 00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:27,130 Come on, man. 1109 00:51:27,130 --> 00:51:28,210 He gonna get pounded on, man. 1110 00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:31,220 We couldn't paint a ticket in if we were an artist. 1111 00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:34,230 It's a sold out fight three months before the fight. 1112 00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:37,220 It's the fastest sell-out in heavyweight history, 1113 00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:39,170 in the history of the garden. 1114 00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:42,100 And so we have just the biggest fight, four times 1115 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,150 as big as any event money-wise in the garden. 1116 00:51:45,150 --> 00:51:48,080 So these are some first in history making events 1117 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,110 that you have with the Real Deal Holyfield 1118 00:51:50,110 --> 00:51:53,160 against Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, of kind of the IBF 1119 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,080 and the WBA, Lennox Lewis, the king of the WBC, 1120 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,070 and Don King, the king of the ring. 1121 00:52:00,070 --> 00:52:01,200 Don't even worry. 1122 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,030 Don't even worry. 1123 00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:08,060 Lenny, you got your jacket? 1124 00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:08,200 Yeah. 1125 00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:15,000 Before you was born, it was written. 1126 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 This is the moment of truth. 1127 00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:22,030 Lennox Lewis enters first. 1128 00:52:22,030 --> 00:52:25,020 He has labored long and bucked the tide 1129 00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,020 of a lot of disrespect on this side of the Atlantic 1130 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:30,200 to get to this threshold. 1131 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,150 As a professional, 34 wins, the one second round knockout loss 1132 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:38,130 one punch at the hands of McCall later 1133 00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:43,140 avenged, 27 knockouts for the two-time belt-holder 1134 00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:46,160 from England. 1135 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:55,120 We sing Holy Father, power and strength to the Lord. 1136 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,120 And here we go. 1137 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,190 It's the moment you've all been waiting for. 1138 00:53:04,030 --> 00:53:06,120 Only three men left in the ring. 1139 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,110 And we're underway. 1140 00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:13,210 Holyfield seeming to slip as Lewis landed 1141 00:53:13,210 --> 00:53:15,090 the first punch of the bout. 1142 00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:18,090 That goes by the wayside because Holyfield only 1143 00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:22,070 threw 17 punches in round 1. 1144 00:53:22,070 --> 00:53:25,010 Quiet here at floor level, where the Holyfield 1145 00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:28,080 fans are wondering why their man doesn't get off. 1146 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,210 Raucous noise in the upper deck, where 1147 00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:35,040 the englishmen are enjoying Lewis's early dominance. 1148 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,150 --Won't win for Evander Holyfield. 1149 00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:43,120 And he cringes against the ropes as Lewis lands a right hand. 1150 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,230 They're singing upstairs. 1151 00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:48,100 They're cheering downstairs. 1152 00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,140 The applause is building. 1153 00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:03,070 Not since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897 1154 00:54:03,070 --> 00:54:05,120 has a citizen of Great Britain held an 1155 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,040 undisputed heavyweight title. 1156 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,030 We may be minutes away from that watershed right now. 1157 00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:15,160 Final punch stat numbers are overwhelmingly 1158 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,190 one sided, Lewis landing 218 more blows, 1159 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,220 more than doubling Holyfield's landed punch number, 1160 00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:26,020 and nearly doubling his output. 1161 00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:28,220 We go to the scorecards at this time. 1162 00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:32,000 Judge at ringside Eugenia Williams scores 1163 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,230 about 115 to 113 in favor of Evander Holyfield. 1164 00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:43,090 Judge at ringside Stanley Christodoulou scores 1165 00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:50,230 about 116 to 113 in favor of Lennox Lewis. 1166 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:53,190 Judge at ringside Larry O'Connell scores 1167 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:59,020 the bout 115 to 115. 1168 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:02,210 Even a draw, the decision is even a draw. 1169 00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:05,150 Both champions retain their belts. 1170 00:55:11,070 --> 00:55:12,220 That's a travesty. 1171 00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:15,180 That is, ladies and gentlemen, a travesty, 1172 00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:18,190 an outrage, a highway robbery. 1173 00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:21,110 Lennox Lewis has just been robbed 1174 00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:24,140 of the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. 1175 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,200 He won it, and he didn't get it. 1176 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,200 You know, that is a shame. 1177 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,210 Emanuel Steward, first give us your impression 1178 00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:38,040 of the scoring of the fight. 1179 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,120 You know, first of all, it was a terrible decision. 1180 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,090 Anybody can see the fight. 1181 00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:43,140 Now, I normally don't even complain, 1182 00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:46,030 even the Thomas Hearns Sugar Ray Leonard number 2 fight. 1183 00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:48,220 But this fight is really what's hurting boxing. 1184 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:52,110 Every time we try to move boxing forward and make a great fight 1185 00:55:52,110 --> 00:55:54,220 of some type like this, this kind of crap 1186 00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:56,220 just comes on, where Evander only won 1187 00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,100 three rounds, four at the most. 1188 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,060 But nevertheless, it's called a draw. 1189 00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:05,080 This is what's killing boxing. 1190 00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:11,000 Watch it, watch it, watch it. 1191 00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:17,190 I was fucking afraid of that. 1192 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,080 A draw? 1193 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,070 You shut his ass down. 1194 00:56:24,070 --> 00:56:25,100 Let's talk like we're champions. 1195 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,040 We won the fight. 1196 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,190 That's how we're talking at the press conference. 1197 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:28,170 Yeah. 1198 00:56:28,170 --> 00:56:29,150 Positive vibes. 1199 00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:30,160 Positive. 1200 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,150 We're the people's champion, at all times. 1201 00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:33,110 We're here. 1202 00:56:33,110 --> 00:56:36,090 We're here to face all of our accusers. 1203 00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:37,120 Don't be shy. 1204 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080 If you think that he lost the fight, 1205 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,230 tell him that you think that. 1206 00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:42,100 The judges didn't think it. 1207 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,210 And I tell you, he's ready to do it again. 1208 00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:47,090 When you get a man hurt, you're supposed to finish it. 1209 00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:49,050 You don't play chess with it. 1210 00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:50,070 Where was that third round? 1211 00:56:50,070 --> 00:56:51,050 That's what I want to know. 1212 00:56:51,050 --> 00:56:54,040 What happened in that third round? 1213 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,210 Well, Lennox, you know what? 1214 00:56:55,210 --> 00:56:57,130 Have you ever thought about when we fight again, 1215 00:56:57,130 --> 00:56:58,210 I got another chance to do it? 1216 00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:04,050 Yes, yes, it ain't over yet! 1217 00:57:04,050 --> 00:57:05,130 Yeah, it's not over. 1218 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,160 It ain't over yet! 1219 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,140 Thank you very much. 1220 00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:09,170 You're very kind, and I love you. 1221 00:57:09,170 --> 00:57:11,100 Now we gonna do it again! 1222 00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,100 Don is a very smart man. 1223 00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,180 Regardless of what people say about him, 1224 00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:16,070 Don is a very smart man. 1225 00:57:16,070 --> 00:57:22,190 So when Lennox never signed with Don and beat every fighter, 1226 00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:26,090 that more or less incensed Don a little bit more 1227 00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:30,200 to have that little thing against Lennox. 1228 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,080 It seems so unfair that guys like Don King and Bob Arum 1229 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,180 and these guys are getting crazy rich off of the blood 1230 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:38,080 and sweat of these boxers, and then 1231 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,140 they end up with very little. 1232 00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:40,040 Absolutely. 1233 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,070 I mean, if you look at the Holyfield fight, 1234 00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:46,110 Holyfield made $15 million in one fight. 1235 00:57:46,110 --> 00:57:49,080 I made 10, and Don King made 10. 1236 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,220 But he never stepped in the ring. 1237 00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:52,070 You know what you guys should have done? 1238 00:57:52,070 --> 00:57:54,120 Honestly, after the fight, beat the out of him. 1239 00:57:56,110 --> 00:57:58,230 Right after it. 1240 00:57:58,230 --> 00:58:01,170 Now after being in the ring with Holyfield, 1241 00:58:01,170 --> 00:58:05,040 we didn't have to really go back to study tapes and do this, 1242 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,010 because Lennox had 12 rounds in his mind. 1243 00:58:09,010 --> 00:58:11,040 And once you've fought with Lennox once, 1244 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,100 once he's in the ring with you once, 1245 00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,160 there is no way you're gonna get him the second time. 1246 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,220 We knew, OK, we can't leave it to the judges. 1247 00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,170 We weren't just gonna be fighting Holyfield. 1248 00:58:20,170 --> 00:58:22,040 We'll be fighting the judges. 1249 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,210 We'll be fighting the establishment. 1250 00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:27,050 He hopes for a rematch with you if he can. 1251 00:58:27,050 --> 00:58:29,010 Who? 1252 00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:30,110 Holyfield. 1253 00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:35,060 Boxing for the undisputed heavyweight championship 1254 00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:37,060 of the world. 1255 00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:42,160 We shall have drama tonight. 1256 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:50,140 Already we can see Holyfield trying to get closer 1257 00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:53,020 to Lewis right from the get-go. 1258 00:58:58,010 --> 00:58:59,040 Get his attention. 1259 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,110 Keep shooting the right hand. 1260 00:59:00,110 --> 00:59:02,080 You're shooting him right, but shoot him low. 1261 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,030 Don't shoot him high. 1262 00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:06,220 Keep your arms close. 1263 00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:08,100 Lewis to the body. 1264 00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,210 His own right hand lands flush. 1265 00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:14,210 They trade shots at close range, and summon the best round 1266 00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:17,130 these two fighters have fought against each other in two 1267 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:18,090 fights. 1268 00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:19,210 Their heads come together again, 1269 00:59:19,210 --> 00:59:23,010 and Lewis produces some good in-fighting as he drives 1270 00:59:23,010 --> 00:59:23,210 Evander back to the wall. 1271 00:59:23,210 --> 00:59:25,130 Well, Evander Holyfield won't knock down anybody. 1272 00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:27,200 Uppercut lands for Lewis. 1273 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,200 Multiple punches for Lewis. 1274 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,200 Holyfield knocked over, fires the right 1275 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,210 and drives Lewis into the ropes. 1276 00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:38,200 Lennox goes back to the body and the uppercut. 1277 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:43,200 Lewis throws more and lands more in almost every round. 1278 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,200 We're gonna find out in five more seconds of fighting. 1279 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,080 They fought a much better fight this time. 1280 00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:53,210 And the fans appreciate it. 1281 00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:58,000 We go to the scorecards with a unanimous decision. 1282 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,040 Here are the score totals. 1283 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:07,120 Judge at ringside Jerry Roth scores it 115 to 113. 1284 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,160 Judge Chuck Giampa scores it 116 to 112. 1285 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:19,170 Judge at ringside Bill Graham sees it 117 to 111, all three 1286 01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:24,190 in favor of the winner and the undisputed heavyweight champion 1287 01:00:24,190 --> 01:00:31,040 of the world, Lennox Lewis. 1288 01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,180 The first unified heavyweight champion 1289 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:53,180 from Britain in a century, what do you think this will do 1290 01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:57,110 for your legacy as a fighter and the respect you have tried 1291 01:00:57,110 --> 01:01:00,040 to win over the last decade? 1292 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,210 I think I went through some trials and tribulations, 1293 01:01:03,210 --> 01:01:06,160 and enough people were trying to stop me. 1294 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,030 The Americans didn't want me to take it over the Atlantic 1295 01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:12,200 to Britain, but I actually persevered and succeeded. 1296 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,010 Finally, with his clear victory over Holyfield, 1297 01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:19,150 Lennox ended the '90s number one from Ring Magazine 1298 01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:21,060 for the very first time. 1299 01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:26,130 Here he was, Lennox Lewis, the undisputed greatest. 1300 01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:29,150 The year 2000 was prime time for Lennox. 1301 01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:32,210 He fought Michael Grant, a 6'7 heavyweight 1302 01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:36,060 from Chicago who was even bigger and seven years younger. 1303 01:01:41,170 --> 01:01:44,110 But he kicked his ass in only two rounds. 1304 01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:46,080 Lennox went back to England and got 1305 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,060 Botha again in only two rounds. 1306 01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:53,060 Finally in November, he took on a real fire hydrant, the guy 1307 01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:54,210 that everyone said was hard to hit 1308 01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:57,150 like Tyson, Samoan David Tua. 1309 01:01:57,150 --> 01:02:00,160 But Lennox showed an ability to adapt to any style 1310 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,090 and won a decision in 12. 1311 01:02:02,090 --> 01:02:06,020 This is a lights out, artistic performance 1312 01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:09,130 by a heavyweight champion who, for the moment, 1313 01:02:09,130 --> 01:02:12,130 looks impregnable. 1314 01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:15,170 The people of Britain have voted Muhammad Ali the sports 1315 01:02:15,170 --> 01:02:18,070 personality of the century. 1316 01:02:18,070 --> 01:02:20,090 Finally, with the respect 1317 01:02:20,090 --> 01:02:22,170 of being the undisputed champion, 1318 01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:25,130 Lennox was honored by his country alongside his greatest 1319 01:02:25,130 --> 01:02:26,090 childhood hero. 1320 01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:31,130 Muhammad Ali, our sports personality 1321 01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:33,180 of the century, Lennox Lewis, our sports 1322 01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:35,130 personality of the year. 1323 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,040 While Lennox was at the peak of his career, 1324 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,090 Frank struggled to keep a deep secret hidden from the world. 1325 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,100 I've always known I was very different. 1326 01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:59,070 From the age of three and four, I am born in the wrong body. 1327 01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:00,130 I could never let anyone know this, 1328 01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:01,220 so I would have to fight it. 1329 01:03:01,220 --> 01:03:04,060 So all my life I went through fighting it. 1330 01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:08,190 Lennox Lewis's career and my success in boxing 1331 01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:11,060 gave me something else to focus on. 1332 01:03:11,060 --> 01:03:13,110 But eventually there was a change in the business 1333 01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:16,160 management side, and I thought that this time they 1334 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,020 were losing track of what Lennox's career was about. 1335 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:20,170 Being heavyweight champion of the world, 1336 01:03:20,170 --> 01:03:23,020 they were now looking more at commercial sides. 1337 01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:24,210 We were gonna fight in South Africa. 1338 01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:28,040 Next thing I know, Lennox has decided to train in Las Vegas, 1339 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,060 because he's in a film called Ocean's 11. 1340 01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:33,190 I was shooting a movie with Julia 1341 01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:36,200 Roberts and George Clooney. 1342 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,120 It was good. 1343 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,020 It was great. 1344 01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:40,210 I was shooting a fight scene. 1345 01:03:40,210 --> 01:03:44,170 I shot my particular little scene for Ocean's 11 1346 01:03:44,170 --> 01:03:48,220 with Larry Merchant on one of the days 1347 01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:53,160 that Lennox was there to shoot with Wladimir Klitschko. 1348 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,120 And we were all aware that in South 1349 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,180 Africa was a fight taking place at I 1350 01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:04,180 believe 6,000 feet altitude. 1351 01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:08,130 Hasim Rahman arrived three weeks before the fight. 1352 01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:09,140 I pleaded with Lennox. 1353 01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:13,150 Lennox turned up I think seven days before the fight. 1354 01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:18,010 Let's go ahead and jump on our plans, try and get organized. 1355 01:04:18,010 --> 01:04:20,060 We definitely have to get organized on this, for real. 1356 01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:22,120 We're just off to East London for a quick stop 1357 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,150 for two to three hours, and then down to Capetown. 1358 01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:44,140 OK. 1359 01:04:44,140 --> 01:04:48,090 The heart of the whole matter, it seems to me at this point, 1360 01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:49,170 based on what everybody's writing 1361 01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:54,170 and how everybody sees this, is, are you taking him lightly? 1362 01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:58,050 To me, the definition of that comes from one question, OK? 1363 01:04:58,050 --> 01:05:02,050 If you were fighting Mike Tyson in Johannesburg on this day-- 1364 01:05:02,050 --> 01:05:02,200 OK. 1365 01:05:05,090 --> 01:05:08,050 You know, I knew that the altitude might be a problem, 1366 01:05:08,050 --> 01:05:11,040 so I came over in time, so I would feel like I 1367 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,140 would overcome that obstacle. 1368 01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:16,160 I'm sure you're confident of Lennox 1369 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,080 winning on Sunday morning. 1370 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,180 What happens next? 1371 01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:21,050 What's the scenario with Tyson? 1372 01:05:21,050 --> 01:05:23,040 Tyson is not an issue until after the Rahman fight, 1373 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,050 so we will not discuss Tyson, but the priority 1374 01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:27,020 is to win the title. 1375 01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:29,140 Lennox, I've got to ask you this question. 1376 01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:31,220 With the whole fight public calling out for what 1377 01:05:31,220 --> 01:05:33,090 could possibly be one of the biggest 1378 01:05:33,090 --> 01:05:36,180 fights in history, Tyson versus Lewis, how do you stay focused? 1379 01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:41,160 How do you stay focused on Hasim Rahman? 1380 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,060 Well, what people don't know, Lennox Lewis 1381 01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:45,010 is a true competitor, you know? 1382 01:05:45,010 --> 01:05:48,040 It doesn't matter if you say let's run down the street. 1383 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,080 I have to be first. 1384 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,140 Ow! 1385 01:05:56,140 --> 01:05:58,230 Perfect. 1386 01:05:58,230 --> 01:06:02,140 In this situation, Hasim Rahman is in front of me, 1387 01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:05,000 and he's an opponent, and he's trying to get my titles, 1388 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,010 and I'm not gonna allow that. 1389 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,050 Lennox Lewis like a big cat. 1390 01:06:26,050 --> 01:06:30,030 Rahman, jab, jab, jab, jab. 1391 01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:34,010 Chases Lewis across the ring. 1392 01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:36,120 With a thunderbolt from the right hand! 1393 01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,210 We got a brand new heavyweight champion, 1394 01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:50,090 and he's from the United States. 1395 01:06:50,090 --> 01:06:55,180 When we lost to Hasim Rahman in South Africa, 1396 01:06:55,180 --> 01:06:59,050 that was more shock than anything. 1397 01:06:59,050 --> 01:07:00,200 I just got on a plane and came home. 1398 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,000 And I knew on that flight that my days with Lennox 1399 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,110 was numbered. 1400 01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,060 And it was numbered. 1401 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,160 And it unfortunately there. 1402 01:07:17,090 --> 01:07:21,230 Lennox Lewis's career and my success in boxing 1403 01:07:21,230 --> 01:07:24,060 gave me something else to focus on. 1404 01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:25,190 But eventually I couldn't keep the lid on 1405 01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:29,020 any longer, because I was destroying myself. 1406 01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:32,050 And I came across a counselor on the telephone. 1407 01:07:32,050 --> 01:07:33,150 I kept saying to the counselor, I need you 1408 01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:35,090 to tell me I'm not transgender. 1409 01:07:35,090 --> 01:07:37,220 He said, until you come to terms with yourself, 1410 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:39,200 there's nothing anyone can do to help you. 1411 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,120 And I-- it took me ages to come to terms with myself. 1412 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,130 I attempted suicide. 1413 01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:48,040 About three days, four days later, I 1414 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,120 told my oldest daughter, and she turned to me 1415 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,210 and said, "do you know what? 1416 01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:53,080 I'd rather have my dad in a dress 1417 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,120 than see my dad in a wooden box. 1418 01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,010 So whatever help you need to find that inner peace, 1419 01:08:00,010 --> 01:08:01,020 I'm there for you." 1420 01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:06,130 That really said to me, do you know what? 1421 01:08:06,130 --> 01:08:08,180 I've got to let Kellie come out full time 1422 01:08:08,180 --> 01:08:14,210 and be herself, and put Frank away. 1423 01:08:14,210 --> 01:08:17,170 And Lennox Lewis was obviously asked the question, 1424 01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,230 and he put out a fantastic statement. 1425 01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:23,210 "If this makes Frank or makes her happy, then so be it, 1426 01:08:23,210 --> 01:08:25,090 and I'm happy for her." 1427 01:08:25,090 --> 01:08:27,130 Which I think helped the boxing world 1428 01:08:27,130 --> 01:08:31,180 be a little bit more acceptful than I expected it to be. 1429 01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:34,150 We've had a lot of good times and a lot of fun, 1430 01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:36,020 so it was a little shock. 1431 01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:40,140 But once again, who are we to judge anyone? 1432 01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:47,090 And Lennox once again, he took the first step to say, 1433 01:08:47,090 --> 01:08:52,110 "do what you gotta do, Kellie, and I accept you for Kellie." 1434 01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:56,190 And that helped me to accept Kellie for Kellie. 1435 01:08:56,190 --> 01:09:01,170 He showed what a compassionate and understanding 1436 01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:03,200 human being he was. 1437 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,190 As Frank struggled with his gender identity, 1438 01:09:06,190 --> 01:09:08,160 Lennox coped with his loss to Rahman 1439 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,090 by meeting another one of his heroes, 1440 01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:15,200 Nelson Mandela, who offered sage advice on overcoming adversity. 1441 01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:24,040 It is the nature of sport that you will have triumphs 1442 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,110 and you will have adversities. 1443 01:09:26,110 --> 01:09:31,210 Legends like Joe Lewis, as you know, people like Muhammad Ali 1444 01:09:31,210 --> 01:09:34,190 have also had a similar fate. 1445 01:09:34,190 --> 01:09:38,210 But he came back twice and won the title. 1446 01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:44,150 And I say to Lennox, he must not wonder at all if he trains 1447 01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:48,170 properly and he uses the advantage that he has, 1448 01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:50,000 that left jab of his. 1449 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,050 I didn't know that he's been watching me all this time 1450 01:09:57,050 --> 01:09:58,200 and studying me. 1451 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,090 And this is Nelson Mandela. 1452 01:10:00,090 --> 01:10:02,060 So that was a great thing for me, 1453 01:10:02,060 --> 01:10:04,110 just to even know that, wow, this guy's been watching me, 1454 01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:06,210 studying me, knows how I box, and he can tell me 1455 01:10:06,210 --> 01:10:09,090 that I'm gonna go in there and win the next time I go in there 1456 01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:11,140 and fight. 1457 01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:16,100 We spoke earlier about the first time I met Lennox Lewis. 1458 01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:18,210 And in that very first meeting, I 1459 01:10:18,210 --> 01:10:22,000 remember being struck by how cool 1460 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,120 he was, how unaffected he was by the significance 1461 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,200 of that occasion. 1462 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,030 The Lennox Lewis that I met that day before the Ruddock 1463 01:10:30,030 --> 01:10:31,120 was the same guy who did the interview 1464 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:36,060 with Larry Merchant following the loss to Hasim Rahman. 1465 01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:39,230 Lennox, when all is said and done, 1466 01:10:39,230 --> 01:10:42,060 did you take him too lightly? 1467 01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:43,150 No, not really. 1468 01:10:43,150 --> 01:10:45,020 This is what happens in heavyweight boxing. 1469 01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:46,190 You get caught with a good shot, you don't beat 1470 01:10:46,190 --> 01:10:48,110 the count, they stop the fight. 1471 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:49,010 Simple as that. 1472 01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:50,160 But there's always a next time. 1473 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,190 You know what I mean? 1474 01:10:51,190 --> 01:10:56,090 I can understand how easy it was for him to not necessarily 1475 01:10:56,090 --> 01:10:58,040 dismiss what happened in Johannesburg 1476 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,070 but to understand it, to look at himself 1477 01:11:00,070 --> 01:11:03,140 through a certain filter and say, OK, I did that. 1478 01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:06,070 I created the circumstances for that. 1479 01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:09,210 I must learn a lesson from it. 1480 01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:14,210 And fortunately, I'm big enough and important enough 1481 01:11:14,210 --> 01:11:17,050 that I'll get the chance at the rematch. 1482 01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:22,080 I've got the mountains to my back in Africa, son. 1483 01:11:31,050 --> 01:11:31,200 What do you say? 1484 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,100 Is it time for the rematch? 1485 01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,140 In less than four months, I'll be ready. 1486 01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:37,140 I'll be ready. 1487 01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:50,170 For most fighters, and particularly for big 1488 01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:55,150 heavyweights, once a guy has eliminated you with one 1489 01:11:55,150 --> 01:11:59,080 colossal shot, it's very difficult to regain 1490 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,170 the confidence, the wherewithal, the self-possession 1491 01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:04,190 to believe that you're gonna go in and knock him out instead. 1492 01:12:08,060 --> 01:12:10,060 What do we do with these rare instances 1493 01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:13,150 when the chance for redemption is upon us? 1494 01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:16,130 The Rahman rematch was one of those moments, 1495 01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:19,230 but it was about more than just redemption. 1496 01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:22,040 The outcome would determine whether Lennox would have 1497 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,060 a chance to cement his legacy in one of the biggest fights 1498 01:12:26,060 --> 01:12:29,040 in the history of the sport. 1499 01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,100 Or leave behind a trail of questions 1500 01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,050 about what could have been. 1501 01:12:37,050 --> 01:12:39,120 There have been times where he's just been sort of painting 1502 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,070 his opponent and moving away at the same time, 1503 01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:47,120 but he's throwing some hard left hands tonight. 1504 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,150 Here some jabs. 1505 01:12:49,150 --> 01:12:52,150 That is one stiff jab. 1506 01:12:52,150 --> 01:12:58,110 Perhaps Rahman got under Lewis's skin with the taunting, 1507 01:12:58,110 --> 01:13:01,130 but Lewis got under his skin with a punch. 1508 01:13:01,130 --> 01:13:05,070 He seems for the moment to have 1509 01:13:05,070 --> 01:13:07,090 nullified Rahman's righthand. 1510 01:13:07,090 --> 01:13:09,190 Ooh! 1511 01:13:09,190 --> 01:13:10,190 It's over. 1512 01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:12,170 Lennox Lewis! 1513 01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:17,010 That may turn out to be Lennox Lewis's most respected 1514 01:13:17,010 --> 01:13:19,110 performance ever in the ring. 1515 01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:21,120 Isn't that something? 1516 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,020 When he came back and won his title back from Hasim Rahman, 1517 01:13:26,020 --> 01:13:27,200 that was a really good comeback. 1518 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,160 He knocked him out in four rounds. 1519 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,070 To me, that was priceless. 1520 01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:34,220 The first thought that goes through my mind, 1521 01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:36,010 getting ahead of the game. 1522 01:13:36,010 --> 01:13:37,030 Listen to the crowd as they watch 1523 01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:40,050 that, is that when Mike Tyson sees that, 1524 01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:43,090 he might not want to fight Lennox Lewis. 1525 01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:44,160 Having lost and regained 1526 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,030 his titles in the same calendar year, 1527 01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:49,030 Lennox was number one again. 1528 01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:55,060 But there was still this nagging 5'11225 pound itch. 1529 01:13:55,060 --> 01:13:58,130 There was still Mike Tyson. 1530 01:13:58,130 --> 01:14:01,040 Something crossed Cus D'Amato said when we were 1531 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,010 sparring, "Mike, don't do that. 1532 01:14:04,010 --> 01:14:06,130 You're gonna fight this guy someday." 1533 01:14:06,130 --> 01:14:08,220 Exact words Cus D'Amato said. 1534 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:11,200 So I was thinking, is this ever gonna happen? 1535 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,060 And you know, it happened. 1536 01:14:15,220 --> 01:14:16,160 Pans back up. 1537 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,060 There you go. 1538 01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:17,220 Right back. 1539 01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:18,120 There you go. 1540 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,220 Good fighting. 1541 01:14:19,220 --> 01:14:21,150 I'm trying to get that combination punch in there. 1542 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:22,080 You did a lot of-- 1543 01:14:26,020 --> 01:14:30,070 I came across as the villain, the bad man, 1544 01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:32,040 which I didn't mind. 1545 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,170 I don't take it personally. 1546 01:14:33,170 --> 01:14:35,070 I like getting under people's skin. 1547 01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:36,180 Defense is impregnable. 1548 01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:37,180 And I'm just ferocious. 1549 01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:38,140 I want your heart. 1550 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:40,170 I wanna eat his children. 1551 01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:42,110 He said to some fighter, was it you, 1552 01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:44,120 that he wanted to eat their children? 1553 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,050 Yeah, I was really disappointed when he said that, 1554 01:14:47,050 --> 01:14:52,220 but hopefully when we fight, he's a vegetarian at that time. 1555 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,040 This is like in one sense an ultimate match-up 1556 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,160 between good versus evil. 1557 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,210 I look at myself as the good. 1558 01:15:01,210 --> 01:15:02,200 I look at him at evil. 1559 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,190 From the moment we got together 1560 01:15:04,190 --> 01:15:08,000 for the press conference, there was so much tension. 1561 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,000 And I remember when we got to New York 1562 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,220 the night before the press conference 1563 01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:14,180 and he said, "if Mike makes one move at me, 1564 01:15:14,180 --> 01:15:17,070 forget all the money. 1565 01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:18,210 I'm not backing down from him. 1566 01:15:18,210 --> 01:15:21,220 I'm not backing up from him." 1567 01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:24,020 All of a sudden, I seen him take 1568 01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:25,160 his hat off and throw it on the ground 1569 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,010 and start marching towards me. 1570 01:15:30,020 --> 01:15:31,150 Boom, I was on it. 1571 01:15:31,150 --> 01:15:33,160 The first three punches were mine, 1572 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,030 and the first bite was his. 1573 01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:39,110 You're scared now, you ho. 1574 01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:41,110 You're scared like a little white .. 1575 01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:43,000 Right then I knew, and Lennox knew, 1576 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,170 we was gonna beat Mike Tyson. 1577 01:15:44,170 --> 01:15:49,070 So that was small little things that play a big part 1578 01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:50,190 of that psychological. 1579 01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:52,100 Because if you remember, Mike was 1580 01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:57,100 always psychologically beating guys before the fight happened. 1581 01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,100 You see what I'm saying? 1582 01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:00,020 So it flipped a little right there. 1583 01:16:00,020 --> 01:16:04,050 I remember general sports reporters would literally 1584 01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:07,120 giggle when I would tell them that Lennox Lewis had 1585 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,100 enormous advantages over Mike Tyson, and it was hard for me 1586 01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:13,090 to see how Tyson could ever possibly overcome them. 1587 01:16:13,090 --> 01:16:16,230 And because their general attitude was, you know, 1588 01:16:16,230 --> 01:16:20,040 Lennox Lewis is an English guy who drinks tea, 1589 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,130 and Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson, so obviously 1590 01:16:23,130 --> 01:16:24,210 you're out of your mind, Jim. 1591 01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:26,180 You don't know what you're talking about. 1592 01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:28,230 This is clearly going to be a one sided 1593 01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:30,130 wipe-out in Tyson's favor. 1594 01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:33,020 That was what they thought was still happening 1595 01:16:33,020 --> 01:16:35,030 in every Mike Tyson fight. 1596 01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:35,180 This is war. 1597 01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:36,200 We ain't come to play. 1598 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,180 We ain't come to dance with Elvis. 1599 01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:41,170 We come here to knock Mike Tyson out. 1600 01:17:01,210 --> 01:17:04,130 Finally, 19 years after sparring 1601 01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:08,010 in the Catskills, the time had come for these two titans 1602 01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:11,100 to face each other in one of boxing history's 1603 01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,030 most anticipated match-ups. 1604 01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:18,110 Too big, too strong, baby. 1605 01:17:18,110 --> 01:17:19,200 Trying to tell you. 1606 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,010 Too big, too strong. 1607 01:17:22,010 --> 01:17:23,190 A member of the opponent's team 1608 01:17:23,190 --> 01:17:26,010 is allowed in the dressing room before the fight 1609 01:17:26,010 --> 01:17:29,190 to make sure that the gloves are put on within the rules. 1610 01:17:29,190 --> 01:17:33,140 No extra padding, no rough edges at the seams of the leather. 1611 01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:36,220 When they are satisfied, they sign the gloves. 1612 01:17:36,220 --> 01:17:40,000 This is usually a straightforward process, 1613 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,070 but this night was different. 1614 01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:45,050 Come on, Lennox. 1615 01:17:45,050 --> 01:17:47,090 Let him sign, then get out of your hair. 1616 01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:57,040 One for all! 1617 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,080 All for one! 1618 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,010 Let's go, let's go! 1619 01:18:00,010 --> 01:18:02,150 As the challenger for the crown, 1620 01:18:02,150 --> 01:18:04,150 Mike Tyson will walk out first. 1621 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,050 This is the fucking shit I've been talking about. 1622 01:18:11,050 --> 01:18:13,090 And here comes Iron Mike. 1623 01:18:13,090 --> 01:18:16,030 You think it's a fucking game? 1624 01:18:16,030 --> 01:18:16,180 Come on! 1625 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,000 The fighters will now touch gloves 1626 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,120 in the center of the ring. 1627 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,080 Come on, man. 1628 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080 Come on, man. 1629 01:19:22,060 --> 01:19:24,090 And here comes Lennox Lewis. 1630 01:19:27,010 --> 01:19:30,000 The accompanying music, a tribute 1631 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,010 to Lewis's Jamaican heritage. 1632 01:19:33,010 --> 01:19:35,150 He is really a man of three countries, Jamaica, 1633 01:19:35,150 --> 01:19:37,060 Canada, and Great Britain. 1634 01:19:37,060 --> 01:19:38,230 But not the US, so they're not gonna give 1635 01:19:38,230 --> 01:19:40,080 him too many applause here. 1636 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,110 If they didn't like it yesterday, you're no good. 1637 01:19:49,090 --> 01:19:53,120 So Emanuel Steward goes in first. 1638 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,220 And Lennox Lewis steps between the ropes. 1639 01:20:01,070 --> 01:20:03,160 These two great heavyweights must now step 1640 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,200 forward when the bell rings. 1641 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,160 Only one will be destiny's hero. 1642 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,010 Only one will pass from heavyweight greatness 1643 01:20:14,010 --> 01:20:15,090 to heavyweight legend. 1644 01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:22,020 Let's get ready to rumble! 1645 01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:35,050 Well, the jab was a pretty stiff jab. 1646 01:20:35,050 --> 01:20:36,100 David Tua made the same mistake. 1647 01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:37,190 Mike's supposed to work on the underjabs. 1648 01:20:37,190 --> 01:20:40,040 The jabs don't even have to land. 1649 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,030 He's gotta hit him-- 1650 01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:44,010 --hit by Lewis. 1651 01:20:44,010 --> 01:20:46,120 That was big. 1652 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,080 Boy, Tyson's got a good chin. 1653 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,030 Mike Tyson is being dictated to by craft, technique, 1654 01:20:52,030 --> 01:20:53,150 professional skill. 1655 01:20:53,150 --> 01:20:56,110 That's what Lewis has in addition to his size. 1656 01:20:59,090 --> 01:21:01,200 He certainly demonstrated some of the very best of it tonight. 1657 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,060 Hugh right hands. 1658 01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:07,190 Tyson gets in an uppercut. 1659 01:21:07,190 --> 01:21:10,230 Shades of Tokyo and the one time he got to Buster Douglas 1660 01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:12,100 in the end of the eight round. 1661 01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:17,220 And that's gonna be perhaps the end of the fight. 1662 01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:20,220 It'll take some courage for Mike to get up from the shot. 1663 01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:23,100 Eight, nine! 1664 01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100 He's out. 1665 01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,210 Lennox Lewis knocks out Mike Tyson 1666 01:21:26,210 --> 01:21:29,130 and banishes him from the upper stratosphere 1667 01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:31,090 of the heavyweight division. 1668 01:21:31,090 --> 01:21:34,150 Lennox Lewis, world junior champion, Olympic gold 1669 01:21:34,150 --> 01:21:37,050 medalist, three-time heavyweight champion, 1670 01:21:37,050 --> 01:21:39,070 knock-out conqueror of Mike Tyson, 1671 01:21:39,070 --> 01:21:40,080 what else could he prove? 1672 01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:47,080 And over the years, I studied Lennox Lewis. 1673 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,150 He was if not the most important certainly one of the most 1674 01:21:50,150 --> 01:21:53,220 important fighters I had covered to that point 1675 01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:55,050 in my boxing career. 1676 01:21:55,050 --> 01:22:00,110 And I came to the conclusion that having escaped 1677 01:22:00,110 --> 01:22:05,100 the nightmare of his childhood, having escaped circumstances 1678 01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:07,080 under which he was taken away from his mother, 1679 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,090 he had run afoul of difficult circumstances 1680 01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:15,120 on the streets in Canada and could have destroyed his life 1681 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,110 with a mistake at any moment up there, and eventually ran 1682 01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:24,230 into a man Arnie Boehm, who unlike the people who took Mike 1683 01:22:24,230 --> 01:22:30,010 Tyson in and from the beginning saw him as a commodity 1684 01:22:30,010 --> 01:22:33,150 to exploit, this man in Canada who 1685 01:22:33,150 --> 01:22:37,220 found Lennox Lewis saw him as a valuable person 1686 01:22:37,220 --> 01:22:40,180 to be supported and redeemed. 1687 01:22:40,180 --> 01:22:44,230 And because of the difference in those two mindsets 1688 01:22:44,230 --> 01:22:47,010 and the difference in those two processes, 1689 01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:49,130 you get the difference in those two lives. 1690 01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:54,230 You get the Lennox Lewis, who was capable of brushing aside 1691 01:22:54,230 --> 01:22:59,020 almost any setback and continuing to calmly focus 1692 01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:02,170 on his belief in himself, and his belief in where ultimately 1693 01:23:02,170 --> 01:23:07,050 he could get to, and the deeply insecure Mike Tyson, 1694 01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:09,110 who always knew that he was there 1695 01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:11,060 to serve someone else's agenda. 1696 01:23:11,060 --> 01:23:14,080 Hey, I love you, Mike. 1697 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,100 You love me, Mike? 1698 01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:16,080 Love you. 1699 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,010 All right. 1700 01:23:17,010 --> 01:23:20,210 If you piece together those two threads over a long period 1701 01:23:20,210 --> 01:23:22,100 of time, you can see the difference in the two 1702 01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:26,000 human beings, and you get to the point of the post 1703 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,170 fight interview in Memphis. 1704 01:23:27,170 --> 01:23:30,060 You said you had to win this fight to clean up boxing. 1705 01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:31,200 Do you feel you've accomplished that? 1706 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,020 I went out there and showed them I'm a pugilist specialist. 1707 01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:35,160 I can adapt to any style. 1708 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,190 And you know, he showed me one style that a lot of people 1709 01:23:37,190 --> 01:23:39,090 didn't think I was gonna be able to deal with, 1710 01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:41,010 but I was able to deal with it. 1711 01:23:41,010 --> 01:23:42,230 A lot of people thought he was gonna get away from my jab, 1712 01:23:42,230 --> 01:23:44,200 but nobody gets away from my job. 1713 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,090 Mike, are you sorry this fight didn't take place years ago? 1714 01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:48,090 It wasn't meant to be. 1715 01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:51,200 I've known Lennox since he was 16, 15 years old. 1716 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,180 I have mad respect. 1717 01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:55,050 Everything I said was in proposition 1718 01:23:55,050 --> 01:23:56,100 for promoting the fight. 1719 01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,050 He knows I love him and his mother. 1720 01:23:58,050 --> 01:24:00,070 And I know that he thinks I don't have respect 1721 01:24:00,070 --> 01:24:03,010 and love him, he's crazy. 1722 01:24:03,010 --> 01:24:07,020 Although Lennox only had one fight in 2002, 1723 01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:10,080 beating Tyson was enough to keep him at number one. 1724 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,100 You've proven everything. 1725 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,230 You've beaten everybody. 1726 01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:14,170 You've avenged the losses you've had, 1727 01:24:14,170 --> 01:24:16,170 and you've conquered the man who you 1728 01:24:16,170 --> 01:24:17,210 said would make your legacy. 1729 01:24:17,210 --> 01:24:18,150 What now? 1730 01:24:18,150 --> 01:24:21,100 Well, you know, I'm gonna take it one day at a time, 1731 01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:22,130 see what happens after this. 1732 01:24:28,180 --> 01:24:31,140 Lennox Lewis, y'all! 1733 01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:33,090 This is the woman that I love. 1734 01:24:33,090 --> 01:24:34,140 He's all right. 1735 01:24:34,140 --> 01:24:38,210 And she has given birth to this universal champion that 1736 01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:41,050 will reign all over the world. 1737 01:24:41,050 --> 01:24:41,200 I love the brother. 1738 01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:47,200 Time goes by and people change. 1739 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,100 Lennox started to find that other things in life 1740 01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,100 appealed to him. 1741 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:53,210 And he phones me and told me that he find-- 1742 01:24:53,210 --> 01:24:56,170 he met a girl, and that her name was Violet. 1743 01:24:56,170 --> 01:25:00,110 I ran into him at a restaurant in New York City. 1744 01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:05,070 I said, wow, for a boxer he's very handsome. 1745 01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:09,050 When I met Lennox and I asked him, where do you live? 1746 01:25:09,050 --> 01:25:11,190 He says, I live on the planet. 1747 01:25:11,190 --> 01:25:12,220 And then he explained. 1748 01:25:12,220 --> 01:25:17,010 He says, "well, I was born in England, I grew up in Canada, 1749 01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:19,000 and my parents are Jamaican. 1750 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,150 But I identify with the world." 1751 01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:24,090 So I found him to be quite introspective, 1752 01:25:24,090 --> 01:25:27,090 and it led to further conversations. 1753 01:25:27,090 --> 01:25:31,060 On the way out, I walked out of the restaurant. 1754 01:25:31,060 --> 01:25:34,100 Halfway to the train station, I turned around 1755 01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:38,220 and went back to the restaurant and interrupted his dinner. 1756 01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:40,180 And I just remember telling him, "I 1757 01:25:40,180 --> 01:25:42,080 really appreciate how you represent us, 1758 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,110 because you do represent us well." 1759 01:25:44,110 --> 01:25:46,020 And I walked out and left. 1760 01:25:46,020 --> 01:25:50,160 Two years later, to be exact, we met again in Jamaica. 1761 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,120 When that desire is no longer there 1762 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,130 to get up when it's cold outside, 1763 01:25:57,130 --> 01:26:01,010 when it's snowing outside, and it's nice and warm in your bed 1764 01:26:01,010 --> 01:26:04,220 with silk sheets and you have your fiancee, your future wife 1765 01:26:04,220 --> 01:26:09,180 with you, and you don't have that desire to get up anymore, 1766 01:26:09,180 --> 01:26:12,110 that's when it's actually time to retire. 1767 01:26:12,110 --> 01:26:17,030 But he wanted to show that he was the best. 1768 01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:19,050 For the last fight of his career, 1769 01:26:19,050 --> 01:26:22,010 Lennox took on Ukrainian Vitali Klitschko, 1770 01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:24,210 and successfully defended his undisputed title 1771 01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:27,110 to the very end. 1772 01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:30,010 Now, as he entered retirement, Lennox 1773 01:26:30,010 --> 01:26:32,070 finally had a partner to help balance 1774 01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:35,220 his life outside of the ring. 1775 01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:40,040 I think that he achieved his goals. 1776 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,090 He achieved his legacy to be a world 1777 01:26:42,090 --> 01:26:49,090 champion and the undisputed world champion. 1778 01:26:49,090 --> 01:26:52,180 Well, he's one of three to retire with the title. 1779 01:26:52,180 --> 01:26:53,160 Not got beat. 1780 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,060 Retired with the title, and he went out on his own terms. 1781 01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,100 I think he would have beat every heavyweight champion. 1782 01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:03,060 I saw most all of them fighting and training in the camps. 1783 01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:06,030 Ali and Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, 1784 01:27:06,030 --> 01:27:07,170 I've been with all of them. 1785 01:27:07,170 --> 01:27:08,080 Larry Holmes. 1786 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,110 Lennox Lewis would have beat all of them. 1787 01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:13,120 He would definitely have himself established 1788 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,000 as maybe the greatest heavyweight boxer now. 1789 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,150 When he told me that Violet, that they 1790 01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:23,000 were gonna have their first kid, something bigger was coming. 1791 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,070 Made me think of that moment when we were kids on the bus, 1792 01:27:27,070 --> 01:27:30,060 and he said, "there's bigger things to come, man." 1793 01:27:30,060 --> 01:27:32,200 So when he was retiring, that's what was going through my head. 1794 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,220 He retired in February, and our son was born in June. 1795 01:27:37,220 --> 01:27:43,080 I was born in New York, and I lived in Jamaica 1796 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,080 practically my whole life. 1797 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,130 His game plan was always focus on 1798 01:27:48,130 --> 01:27:51,000 boxing, and when that is finished, 1799 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,190 then I focus on my family, my children, 1800 01:27:52,190 --> 01:27:55,110 and give them the things that I didn't have, 1801 01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:58,040 which was mainly the stability of having a mom and a dad. 1802 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,160 He really wanted to break the cycle 1803 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,160 of what he had been through. 1804 01:28:06,130 --> 01:28:08,100 In life, nothing is really given to you. 1805 01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:11,170 You have to earn it. 1806 01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:14,000 From my last daughter, we got the news 1807 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,090 that she's got trisomy-19. 1808 01:28:16,090 --> 01:28:21,010 I didn't realize how extreme it was until we got 1809 01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:22,230 all the information about it. 1810 01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:26,220 Most kids with her condition don't survive, 1811 01:28:26,220 --> 01:28:27,200 but she's strong. 1812 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,130 She's really strong. 1813 01:28:29,130 --> 01:28:30,210 She's a fighter. 1814 01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:32,210 It's still difficult, because it's 1815 01:28:32,210 --> 01:28:40,150 like we know kids that have this condition don't last that long. 1816 01:28:40,150 --> 01:28:42,130 It's one day at a time. 1817 01:28:42,130 --> 01:28:43,160 OK, OK. 1818 01:28:47,180 --> 01:28:52,050 "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." 1819 01:28:52,050 --> 01:28:53,180 Who knows what that is? 1820 01:28:53,180 --> 01:28:55,080 Building upon the humanity 1821 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,150 of those who had taught him how to box, Lennox focused 1822 01:28:58,150 --> 01:29:00,210 on charities that would help lift young people out 1823 01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:04,040 of their trouble by teaching them to overcome adversities 1824 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,160 through the sport of boxing. 1825 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,190 You're sticking your chin out. 1826 01:29:06,190 --> 01:29:08,080 You've got to hide that. 1827 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,130 You've got to hide your chin. 1828 01:29:09,130 --> 01:29:12,150 You wanna protect it as well with your hands. 1829 01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:13,230 At least one of them. 1830 01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:15,190 He is the epitome of what a world 1831 01:29:15,190 --> 01:29:17,020 champion is supposed to be. 1832 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,190 Of his 41 winning bouts, 1833 01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:26,130 Lennox's reign with the WBC belt lasted 16 fights. 1834 01:29:31,230 --> 01:29:35,000 Out of the ring, Lennox kept his mother, 1835 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,060 brother, and childhood friends like Courtney and Egerton 1836 01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:40,000 around him. 1837 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,080 A close-knit family team that kept him grounded. 1838 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,120 But he also gathered a team of experts from Frank Maloney 1839 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,180 and Harold Knight to one of the greatest coaches in boxing 1840 01:29:50,180 --> 01:29:53,130 history, Emanuel Steward, who helped 1841 01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:57,140 him climb to the mountaintop. 1842 01:29:57,140 --> 01:30:00,100 He retired as one of only three heavyweight champions 1843 01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:02,070 in the history of the sport to have 1844 01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:05,050 beaten every man he faced alongside Rocky 1845 01:30:05,050 --> 01:30:08,040 Marciano and Muhammad Ali. 1846 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,090 Who are these men we call heavyweight champions? 1847 01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:14,030 Why do we look up to them? 1848 01:30:14,030 --> 01:30:16,180 Because they embody all that's heroic and just? 1849 01:30:19,190 --> 01:30:22,060 Or is it that we can not look away? 1850 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,030 Who are the real champions? 1851 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,160 Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery. 1852 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:52,070 None but ourselves can free our mind. 1853 01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:54,230 Oh, I've no fear for atomic energy. 1854 01:30:54,230 --> 01:30:57,210 Muhammad Ali, he picked us before he passed 1855 01:30:57,210 --> 01:31:03,020 to say he wants these two guys, the guys that fought together, 1856 01:31:03,020 --> 01:31:09,120 were foes, put them together, and make them love each other, 1857 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,200 and put me to my resting place. 1858 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,090 When me and Lennox were pallbearers 1859 01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:18,000 for Muhammad Ali's funeral, that was just a great honor for me. 1860 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,150 Does anybody know who Muhammad Ali is? 1861 01:31:21,150 --> 01:31:23,140 Yeah. 1862 01:31:30,010 --> 01:31:32,010 We sparred when we were kids. 1863 01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:33,210 We became very good friends. 1864 01:31:33,210 --> 01:31:35,210 And when we were young, Lennox was real tall. 1865 01:31:35,210 --> 01:31:38,000 He was 6'5 when he was probably 16. 1866 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,100 And remember when you were dancing, 1867 01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,170 like how you would dance like? 1868 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:46,230 He still dances like that. 1869 01:31:46,230 --> 01:31:49,100 I do, too, now. 1870 01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:53,170 But listen, but really why it was 1871 01:31:53,170 --> 01:31:57,210 close and meant a lot to me, because Cus was alive then. 1872 01:31:57,210 --> 01:32:00,050 Arnie was alive then, right? 1873 01:32:00,050 --> 01:32:01,160 No one knew us. 1874 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,140 You know, we were just two guys coming up. 1875 01:32:03,140 --> 01:32:04,120 And then the '80-- 1876 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,210 what with the '84 Olympics. 1877 01:32:05,210 --> 01:32:08,020 We lost in '84 in Los Angeles. 1878 01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:09,040 Do you remember when we lost? 1879 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,170 We were just walking around like two schmucks? 1880 01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:11,070 Shit! 1881 01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:12,150 We went different ways, but yet 1882 01:32:12,150 --> 01:32:15,010 we ended up in the same place. 1883 01:32:15,010 --> 01:32:18,090 So the friendship, I believe, was always there. 1884 01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:21,140 And as a result, just culminated to "we're 1885 01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:23,020 back where we started." 1886 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,180 Look what we did and we overcame, man? 1887 01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:26,190 That's just the biggest-- 1888 01:32:26,190 --> 01:32:28,080 that's the biggest accomplishment 1889 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,170 that we didn't become victims to our environments. 1890 01:32:35,010 --> 01:32:40,100 Because we were statistics that became specialists. 1891 01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:42,220 And that's why we're here, really. 1892 01:32:42,220 --> 01:32:47,210 Brother, please, just come up here, please. 1893 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,080 Let me tell you the story about Lennox Lewis. 1894 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,180 Undefeated, every chance he never blew it. 1895 01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:02,200 Never lost, because he's the best to ever do it. 1896 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,180 Everyone who stepped in the ring honestly knew it. 1897 01:33:05,180 --> 01:33:08,190 Undefeated gold medalist against the best of them. 1898 01:33:08,190 --> 01:33:10,200 He knew his path was never stressing him. 1899 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,210 If you was smart, you wouldn't mess with him. 1900 01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:16,160 Also a leader, a teacher, you could progress with him. 1901 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,140 Mike Tyson couldn't do it. 1902 01:33:18,140 --> 01:33:20,110 Holyfield couldn't prove it. 1903 01:33:20,110 --> 01:33:24,030 People know I was the last true champion at the boxing ring, 1904 01:33:24,030 --> 01:33:25,070 and I'm stepping in. 1905 01:33:25,070 --> 01:33:28,010 Look, put down the guns, pick up the gloves. 1906 01:33:28,010 --> 01:33:30,080 Going through so much pain, we need some gloves. 1907 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,110 Gotta show the youth there is a better way, 1908 01:33:32,110 --> 01:33:35,090 so we can take the time to educate. 1909 01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:37,200 And put down the guns, pick up the gloves. 1910 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,120 Going through so much pain, we need some love. 1911 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,080 Gotta show the youth there is a better way, 1912 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,160 so we can take the time to educate. 1913 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,140 Now it's for the youth, stay in the right direction. 1914 01:33:47,140 --> 01:33:50,120 Be positive, make love rather than aggression. 1915 01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,090 Nelson Mandela taught us a lesson. 1916 01:33:52,090 --> 01:33:54,230 Went to the safari, let Lewis under pressure. 1917 01:33:54,230 --> 01:33:57,170 Before he died, Ali crowned him and called him the greatest. 1918 01:33:57,170 --> 01:33:59,220 When it comes to helping out, he don't mind doing favors. 1919 01:33:59,220 --> 01:34:02,050 Just like that, with your mind you can fight back. 1920 01:34:02,050 --> 01:34:04,080 Have to stay on the right track, get the picture like IMAX. 1921 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,060 The sky's the limit when you never try to reach it. 1922 01:34:07,060 --> 01:34:09,120 Whatever you put your mind to, you can achieve it. 1923 01:34:12,130 --> 01:34:14,010 We need to drop where you're from, 1924 01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:17,110 and just accept that you are the undisputed king. 1925 01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:18,100 That's just what it is. 1926 01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:21,180 So until somebody comes and changes 1927 01:34:21,180 --> 01:34:24,130 that and breaks that record, you are still number one. 1928 01:34:27,060 --> 01:34:29,210 Still alive. 1929 01:34:29,210 --> 01:34:30,230 That's awesome. 1930 01:34:30,230 --> 01:34:31,140 That's great. 1931 01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:33,000 That's great. 1932 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,170 So not wanting to lose really helps me win. 1933 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,020 Who is the hardest puncher you ever faced? 1934 01:34:50,020 --> 01:34:52,100 Fuck. 1935 01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:54,030 Probably Lennox Lewis. 1936 01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:55,000 For real? 1937 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:55,140 Yeah. 1938 01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:56,230 That motherfucker's hands was this big. 1939 01:34:56,230 --> 01:34:58,150 One night that motherfucker grabbed my weed 1940 01:34:58,150 --> 01:35:00,070 and rolled a blunt with one hand. 1941 01:35:00,070 --> 01:35:02,170 That motherfucker's hand was this big, one of them. 1942 01:35:02,170 --> 01:35:04,050 Yeah, he's a monster. 1943 01:35:04,050 --> 01:35:06,150 What was it that set him apart from the others? 1944 01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:08,110 Let Lennox weather the storm? 1945 01:35:08,110 --> 01:35:13,120 Riots that killed 63 people and injured thousands? 1946 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,080 Yeah, yeah. 1947 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,040 Don King was boxing's longest running pimp. 1948 01:35:24,010 --> 01:35:25,040 I think you got there. 1949 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:25,190 Gotta take it. 1950 01:35:25,190 --> 01:35:26,090 Here? 1951 01:35:26,090 --> 01:35:27,200 Yeah. 1952 01:35:31,190 --> 01:35:35,110 Some would say, maybe he didn't want to face Lennox. 1953 01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:37,200 Some would say, maybe he was afraid 1954 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,170 that Lennox would kick his ass, just 1955 01:35:39,170 --> 01:35:42,010 like he did in the Olympics. 1956 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:44,170 That was awesome. 1957 01:35:44,170 --> 01:35:46,000 I liked that one. 1958 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,170 I kind of shocked myself when that shit came out. 1959 01:35:48,170 --> 01:35:49,110 I saw you getting it. 1960 01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:50,090 I saw you getting it. 1961 01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:51,050 You didn't get that? 1962 01:35:51,050 --> 01:35:53,090 What the fuck, Hugh? 1963 01:36:21,180 --> 01:36:23,210 Lennox fucking Lewis, champion forever. 1964 01:36:23,210 --> 01:36:26,000 Believe it. 154273

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