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Them crazy- them crazy
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The man who's thinking and
worrying about getting hit
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is not gonna have a good
sense of anticipation.
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He will in fact get hit.
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Gotta be clever, gotta be
smart, and not get hit.
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And when you're able to
do this, you're a fighter.
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I'm still the fastest, the
most scientific, the greatest
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fighter of all time!
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Muhammad Ali
has won by a knockout.
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45 is
not a death sentence.
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We can do anything we wanna do.
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It
happened, it happened!
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Lennox Lewis,
I'm coming for you.
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Lennox the conqueror?
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No, I'm Alexander.
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He's no Alexander.
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I'm the best ever.
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I'm just ferocious.
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I want your heart.
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I wanna eat his children.
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Tell Mike Tyson either
put up or shut up.
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This is the heart of
the sweet science.
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It's not no street fighting.
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He knows what he can eat.
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Are we ever going to see,
given all the obstacles, Tyson
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and Lewis in the ring together?
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Mike Tyson has shown he just
doesn't want to fight yet.
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I wouldn't be afraid to
say that Lewis is the best
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fighter on the scene now.
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Period.
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I just come to conquer.
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The
heavyweight champion
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of the world, the most
coveted title in all sports,
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held by George Foreman, the
strongest, Joe Lewis, the most
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iconic, Rocky Marciano,
the most unbeatable, Mike
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Tyson, the baddest man on
the planet, Muhammad Ali,
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the greatest.
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Who is this man, this
heavyweight champion
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of the world?
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We gonna chase those
crazy baldheads out of town.
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Chase those crazy
baldheads out of our town.
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I and I build a cabin.
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I and I plant the corn.
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Didn't my people before
me slave for this country.
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When music plays,
I feel no pain.
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Muhammad Ali said the sweet
science is hit and not get hit.
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Lennox is a very measured
and calculating man.
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He's like an onion that
you keep peeling back,
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and you think, oh, I've got it.
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And then, no.
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You realize, no, it
goes even further.
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His personality is
really like a lion.
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He's this big guy.
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He's ferocious-looking at
times when he wants to be,
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but he's also very gentle.
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As the world
heavyweight champion,
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you are seen as the most
dangerous man on the planet.
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That's what I always
admired about Lennox.
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He never showed his
anger in public.
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There was something
about him that made
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him unique to other sportsmen.
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I just fancy Tyson
for some reason.
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A smart man will beat
a strong man any day.
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And Lennox Lewis
is a smart fighter.
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Lennox Lewis
after three rounds.
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Tyson, round four.
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We're gonna have
Lewis in five rounds.
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And Lewis is gonna get it.
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You think Lewis is gonna--
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He's gonna get it.
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Everybody that I boxed
had a math problem.
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And the math problem was
down for me to solve.
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Folks really seem
to pay more attention
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to where he's from than what
he's actually accomplished.
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Being the undisputed
unified heavyweight champ
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meant that Lennox had
the IBF belt, IBO belt,
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and the most coveted,
the WBC belt,
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claimed before by greats like
Muhammad Ali and Joe Lewis.
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How did he make it to
the doorstep of history,
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to one of the biggest
heavyweight fights of all time?
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You have to take a look at
his story from the beginning.
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Lennox was born in
the impoverished East
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End of London.
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He was raised by
his mother, Violet,
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who had come to England from
Jamaica to work as a nurse
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in search of a better life.
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See, I didn't grow up with
my brothers and sisters.
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My mother have 12 of us, so I
grow up with another family.
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I don't blame her, because
she couldn't manage us.
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12 kids, no husband, you know?
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Lennox's father
had started a new family
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and was completely
absent from his life.
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I met my dad one day.
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There was a car outside,
nice-looking car.
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And a guy in the car,
and he said, come here.
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And I was like looking
at him, like who are you?
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He said, I'm your father.
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I said, oh.
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He said that he wanted
to be in my life,
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But his wife was
fighting against me,
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so I was like that
kid in the middle.
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I just walked back in
the house, and my mom
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said, well, who's that?
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And I said, that's my dad.
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Then she went out into the
road, and she was arguing bad,
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like she was cussing him.
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And I was like,
you know, confused.
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And when she came back
in, she was upset.
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So we really never
talked about it.
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And then that was the only time
I kind of remember, you know,
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my dad.
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When Lennox
was seven, his mother
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found a better
paying job in Canada
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and had to leave him
behind in London.
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She was basically
searching for a new horizon,
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a different way of life.
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You know, she said she
had a friend in Canada.
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She went to visit.
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And she was over
there for a while,
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and she left me with this
lady named Miss Baker.
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For some reason, Miss
Baker was real mean to me.
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While I was in bed at
night, she would come over.
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I would wake up, look up
my eyes, and I see her,
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and her eyes and would
be looking at me.
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And it was like,
that would scare me.
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And I remember one time I
was going into the bath,
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and then she was coming in there
with a belt to try and beat me.
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And I remember jumping out
the bath and running past her,
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and running outside the house,
and I was outside the house,
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and I was nude
outside the house.
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And she was going, "oh, come in.
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Come on, come on, come inside.
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I'm gonna put the belt down."
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"No, I ain't coming back in.
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I want people to come
and see you and make
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you embarrassed about that."
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And she was.
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She was very
embarrassed about it.
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Police came and said,
well, what's going on?
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And then I remember Miss Baker
being upset, saying, "boy, I
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don't know why your mother don't
call for you and send for you
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and get you out of my house."
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And you know, they
took me away from her
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and put me in this home.
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You know, I basically
felt like I was abandoned.
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I was out there by myself.
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He ended up passing
through a number of boarding
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schools and getting
kicked out for fighting
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until he finally ended up in
a school for troubled youth.
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Lennox most definitely
would have been part of a gang
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and been mixed up in all sorts
of skulduggery at that time.
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And it was actually
much better for him
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that he had left
England and went
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to Canada to stay with our mum.
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When my mother sent for
me and I took that plane,
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we were going through the
airport, and all I could hear
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was my mum's voice.
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I didn't hear it for years,
and I heard her voice.
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She was like, "there's
my son, there's my son!"
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And it was loud, and it was
like music to my ears, you know.
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At first, he was
like a bit of a rebel.
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Was he?
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Yeah, he used
to get in fights,
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and the teacher used
to phone me at work,
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and then I'd have to leave
work and come home and get him.
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And sometimes I'd meet
him on the way coming
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home with his lunch pail.
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So--
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When he first
came to Kitchener,
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it was basically
just him and his mom.
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Because he was the
new guy on the block,
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they tried to pick on
him a little bit, right?
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Because he wasn't
always that big.
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You know?
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By bringing
Lennox to Canada,
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Violet had completely changed
the course of his life.
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He easily could have become
a victim of police brutality
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on the streets of London.
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Racial tensions grew
between the cops
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and the black immigrant
community in the '70s and '80s,
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resulting in violent clashes
like the Brixton riots.
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But in Canada, when
Lennox got into trouble
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with law enforcement,
they did something
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completely unexpected.
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Why don't you go down to the
police club and try out boxing?
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Hook McComb, he was a staff
sergeant for the Waterloo
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Regional Police.
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My trainer said,
go, I want you
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to move around with this kid.
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Bobby Prue was smaller
than me, lighter than me,
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and I was bigger than
him and more lankier.
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He was dancing
circles around me.
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I was swinging away,
trying to hit him,
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and I couldn't hit him.
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And he hit me in my nose.
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I'm like, ah, my eyes
started watering.
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The only boxing I knew was
like Muhammad Ali, because we
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used to watch him on TV.
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So I pretended I was
Muhammad Ali moving around.
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And it was like a game to me.
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It was like a game of tag.
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That's when I realized
that I enjoyed boxing.
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I loved it.
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Hook McComb taught me
and Lennox for a long time.
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As the years went on and
Arnie came into the picture.
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Lennox came down with
a couple of his friends
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to our boxing gym in Kitchener.
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He stood out immediately as a
little bigger than the others,
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and showed an interest.
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And the biggest thing I noticed,
and the most important thing I
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noticed, he listened.
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He would look at you and hang
on to every word that you said.
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So much credit of how Lennox
developed should go to Arnie.
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He was a rock.
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He was his coach, but he was
also a father figure to him.
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They had a relationship that
extended way past boxing.
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Arnie was always
there for Lennox.
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And kind of turned
into a dad figure.
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We went camping together.
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We went fishing together.
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Lennox and I met when we
were 11, almost 12 years old.
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We both played inner city
football here in Kitchener.
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Once we played, that's how
we got to know each other.
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As we both grew up, 12,
13, through those years
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we became friends.
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I knew him from football.
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Some of my friends knew
him from basketball.
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Other friends knew
him from boxing.
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The friendship developed from
there until we ended up here
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at Cameron Heights
as schoolmates
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and teammates on the
same football team at 16.
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You got that man.
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Come on, mate.
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Let's go.
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Nah, I can't even
believe you're doing that.
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We gotta go.
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No way.
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They're waiting on us.
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No, no.
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That's no excuse.
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That's his favorite trick.
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Every time he's
losing, he walks away.
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"We've got some more
important to do."
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To win the championship,
I mean, having Lennox
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made me look like a genius.
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It was basically pitch
the ball athletics,
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and have Courtney
Shand lead block.
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I remember we played in
the finals, the city finals.
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We lost to Eastwood
Collegiate 20 to 1.
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We're all sitting on the bus,
coming home from the stadium.
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Everyone's crying, and
I'm sitting beside him,
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and I had my head down.
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I was crying.
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I look up, and he's just
looking around on the bus.
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And I'm like, hey, how
come you're not sad?
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And he said, "because I've
got bigger things to come."
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He worked his way
up through the ranks.
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Started getting a little
better and going to tournaments
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in Sully's in Toronto.
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And he kept going.
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And next thing you know it, he's
a national champion, and then
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the Olympics.
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At Olympic
training camp,
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Lennox would meet another
soon to be world champion.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the
heavyweight championship
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of the 1981 National
Junior Olympic
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Boxing Championships
from Catskill, New York,
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15-year-old Mike Tyson.
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Bombs away, Jimmy.
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Let's watch just carefully.
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Because Tyson in the
blue is a bomber.
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He's trained by no
other than Cus D'Amato.
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Oh, and there it's all over.
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First time I ever met Lennox
Lewis was in the Catskills.
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He was a real nice guy,
really talked proper.
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He was really
enthusiastic about boxing.
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The first day he and
Mike sparred, Mike almost
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took his head off.
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The next day they watched
some footage of Joe Frazier
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and Muhammad Ali, the
Thriller in Manila.
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Arnie told him, this is
how you have to box Mike.
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So he went out, and
he did that, and he
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beat up on Mike that day.
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Cus D'Amato stopped the fight
and told them both that day
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you both are ordained to
become world champions.
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You both will
dominate the sport.
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Cus got pretty friendly with
my mother before she died.
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She didn't think I was gonna do
so good in this boxing thing.
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She thought it
was all like hype.
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I wanted to be successful.
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That would be something my
mother would have wanted.
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Cus, he adopted me, so he's
my father figure, yeah.
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That's all I knew
as a father figure.
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Both Tyson and
Lewis had their eyes set
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on winning the '84 Olympics.
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Tyson's hopes were diminished
in the Olympic qualifying match,
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while Lewis made
the Canadian team
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but eventually ended up
losing in the quarterfinals.
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Well, it was a real
bummer, you know?
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We both hung out after he lost
his match to Tyrell Biggs,
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and then decided to turn pro.
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Over the
next few years,
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Tyson's professional
career took off.
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He became the youngest
heavyweight champ in history.
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All the while, Lennox was
fighting the amateur circuit
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with the desire
to hone his craft
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and get back to the Olympics.
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He was training in
Kitchener with a very good
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friend of mine, Harvey Dean.
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His natural ability
to punch was there.
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Now we had to work on
the power of punching.
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I started training with Lennox
at the training center Arnie.
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Arnie would come, and
Adrian would come.
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And you know, he was
a big talented kid,
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a world junior champion.
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I'm nervous as usual.
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You know, I'm fighting the guy.
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I'm a middleweight, and he's
like a heavyweight or something
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and shit.
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Lennox and Egerton, they
were sparring together.
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They were training
together like brothers.
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We got in the ring, we
started-- we rumbled, man.
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I came at him with all I--
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I was bringing the fire.
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Egerton was good
for Lennox in that
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because of his work ethics and
his tenacity, it pushed Lennox.
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You've got a guy now, you're
fighting in the amateurs now.
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You're fighting
at a higher level.
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In 1988, Lennox would
travel to Seoul, South Korea
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to compete once again and
go for the Olympic gold
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medal for Canada.
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He had gone to the
opening ceremony in Seoul
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and left the Canadian delegation
and walked across the field
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to the American
delegation, walked up
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to some American
athletes and said,
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"which one's Riddick Bowe?
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Show me Riddick Bowe."
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And they had pointed him to
Bowe, and he walked up to Bowe
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and said, "are you Riddick Bowe?
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I'm going to knock you out."
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The first round when he
went out there, I was pissed,
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because he wasn't doing nothing.
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I was like, what the hell?
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Me and Adrian was jumping up at
the side of the ring, saying,
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what the hell are you doing?
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Bowe was beating
him to the punch.
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He had a little
bit more urgency.
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This has the
makings to be the most
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interesting fight
of the tournament
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or the bomb of the tournament.
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I think Lennox got hurt
with that uppercut right
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hand there a moment ago.
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It seemed to stun
him momentarily.
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Adrian was yelling.
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I was yelling.
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Right, because we knew.
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We knew Lennox had the
ability to beat anybody
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if he puts his mind to fight.
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Came in the corner.
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I said, Lennox, wake up, man.
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He went there, first punch--
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knockout.
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Canada's first
gold medal in 56 years.
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I don't think I have
ever been that proud.
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The feeling is
just indescribable.
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My dream was to have
an Olympic champion.
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Most of the guys within
the past several decades
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who have won the Olympic
heavyweight gold medal
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have gone on to become
the heavyweight champion
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of the world.
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And so Lennox had the pedigree.
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The only question was,
would he fulfill it?
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Winning the Olympic gold
medal is really a gold ticket
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into the professionals.
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So it puts you at
a high standard.
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And the standard is, OK,
all the top promoters
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are looking at you.
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So at this time,
there was Don King.
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He was really focusing on
Mike Tyson at the time.
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There was the Duvas.
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There was Micky Duff in England.
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A lot of different
promoters wanted to sign me.
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We actually visited
a couple of them.
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And I was like, wow,
everybody sounds so good.
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Who do I pick?
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And Arnie said, well,
follow your heart.
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He said, well, you know,
we're looking at all the offers.
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I said, well, it's funny
you should say that.
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We've got a guy in England.
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Why don't you come
over to England
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and see what we
can do over there?
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He flew into Heathrow Airport,
and I met him at the airport
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that morning.
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And when he put his hand out,
it was just like a shovel
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coming out to meet me.
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And I was like, god,
he's bloody big.
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Then I thought, you are a
perfect specimen of a fighter.
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You know, I decided to go back
to England because I virtually
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could write my own contract.
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Lennox triumphantly
returned home to his birthplace
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to start his professional
career with the most
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brazen promoter
in Britain, a man
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who was hiding a deep secret.
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From day one, we
started with this dream
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that we were Britain's first
world heavyweight champion,
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or Lennox wants to be
the undisputed world
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heavyweight champion.
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And it's my job to
do my best to get
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that fight made for Lennox Lewis
and to guide him in that path.
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Lennox's team was quite unique.
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It started off first,
it was John Davenport.
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John Davenport then
brought in Harold
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knight, who was a fighter
that John had trained.
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When I came up to
the training camp,
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Lennox actually was sleeping
in one of the cottages.
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There was two bedrooms
in one cottage,
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and I was in the other bedroom.
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So I walked in
the wrong bedroom,
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and soon as I walked in, I
see his big old giant stand up
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and everything.
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And that was my first
introduction to Lennox Lewis.
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His mum Violet was the captain
of the whole training team.
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She held the whole
team together.
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I start going with
them to the camp,
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cause I have to do his
cooking and look after him.
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Because he has to eat property.
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Well, Mom, she was
the boss of the camp,
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to be honest with you.
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Mom was definitely the
boss of the camp, not
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only with her cooking, but
she was, how can I say,
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fair but firm.
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She didn't take no
mess from anyone.
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Lennox
quickly won his first 13
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pro fights and his
first championship,
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the European Title.
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Lennox and I had disagreements
on where he should come from.
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I was adamant he should be
British, because that was
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the market we was aiming at.
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Lennox sort of went to Canada,
and he had that accent,
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and that might be
a little bit why he
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wasn't taken really seriously.
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Lennox obviously had Canadian
roots, Jamaican roots,
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and British roots.
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So he wanted to be seen
as a man of the world.
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I mean, I've done
some stupid things.
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I had Lennox dressed in a
top hat and tails with a cane
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and photographs done with him.
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I took him to English
football clubs.
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He went along with it,
but some of it grudgingly.
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I used to get a lot of
shtick from a lot of my friends
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and a lot of Americans
when I came back home
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after one of Lennox's
fights, because they
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didn't accept Lennox.
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There was always
early on this perception
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that the British
accent made him more
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civilized than the
other characters
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with whom he would
deal in the division,
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and he must have a more genteel
background than guys who
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had come off of rough streets.
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And of course that was a myth.
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Lennox no doubt grew
up during hard times in London,
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but he was fortunate that the
police in Kitchener, Ontario
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treated him like any
other wayward kid
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with potential and not a
threat because of where he was
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born or the color of his skin.
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At the beginning of the '90s,
he kept his sights on the prize,
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building a team that would help
him rise up through the ranks
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of heavyweight contenders.
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At that time I went to
school in London, Ontario.
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I wanted to be a fitness
trainer for pro athletes.
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End of 1990, he came to me and
said, "look, I need your help.
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I need your help.
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I'm gonna fight the number
three fighter in the world.
474
00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:07,100
I know I can beat
him if you help me,
475
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,060
but I need to be stronger."
476
00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:11,060
So we agreed to
train for one fight.
477
00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:12,180
I told him I'd help
him for one fight.
478
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,020
I and I build a cabin.
479
00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:23,110
I and I plant the corn.
480
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:27,090
Chase those crazy
baldheads out of our town.
481
00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:30,070
Lennox surrounded
himself with childhood friends,
482
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:31,110
including Egerton Marcus.
483
00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:38,170
Lennox, he became--
484
00:23:38,170 --> 00:23:39,230
that's my brother.
485
00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:40,160
That's my brother.
486
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,090
Because when he's in a fight,
it's like I'm in a fight.
487
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:48,150
These familiar
faces, like his old coach
488
00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:54,060
Adrian Teodorescu and Courtney
Shand always had Lennox's back,
489
00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:58,030
but they also kept him grounded.
490
00:23:58,030 --> 00:24:01,210
He always said to me, "you
always have to be honest.
491
00:24:01,210 --> 00:24:04,050
You always have to
tell me how things are.
492
00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:08,200
Never tell me it's raining
when it's sunny, because I'm
493
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,040
going to believe you."
494
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,150
And one day what he did
to show me, that day he
495
00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:17,080
told me that we were driving,
he closes his eyes and he says--
496
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,210
Listen, tell me
which way to turn.
497
00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:21,100
He's driving, and I'm
like, "Lennox, Lennox!
498
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:22,050
What are you doing?
499
00:24:22,050 --> 00:24:22,210
What are you doing?"
500
00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,080
And He's like, "just
tell me what to do,
501
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,050
tell me what to do."
502
00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:28,030
And he had his eyes shuts tight.
503
00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:30,110
I'm looking at him
like, are you crazy?
504
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:34,120
And he goes, "that's the
level of trust I need to have.
505
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:38,110
That's what I'm giving to
you, and please hold on to it
506
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,090
dearly."
507
00:24:39,090 --> 00:24:41,220
Ladies and gentlemen, good
evening and welcome to the Omni
508
00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:45,100
Arena here in one of America's
greatest sports cities,
509
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,150
Atlanta, Georgia.
510
00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:50,170
Lennox Lewis, he is
Canadian and English,
511
00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:52,000
fighting out of England.
512
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,170
Biggs, of course,
four years ago,
513
00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:58,100
was the star heavyweight
in the Duvas' main event
514
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,170
stable when he fought
against Mike Tyson in 1987
515
00:25:01,170 --> 00:25:03,030
in Atlantic City.
516
00:25:03,030 --> 00:25:06,050
The question I have is
whether being an amateur
517
00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:09,040
could hurt him in the way
it might have hurt Biggs.
518
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,150
In November of
1991, Lennox got the chance
519
00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:18,140
to write what went wrong in
the '84 Olympics, a rematch
520
00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:21,130
with the man that beat
him, Tyrell Biggs.
521
00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:27,090
Lewis comes out firing
and lands a right hand.
522
00:25:27,090 --> 00:25:31,220
Lennox Lewis looks like much
the stronger guy physically.
523
00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:35,110
Looks like he can handle
Tyrell on the inside.
524
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:37,190
Very little head
movement for Lewis.
525
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:39,200
Could be a problem
later on, particularly
526
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,140
for a guy who's 6'5.
527
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:45,080
And down goes Biggs from
the solid right cross.
528
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,020
That's an impressive
victory for Lennox Lewis.
529
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:52,190
And I'll go in the ring and find
out where he's going from here.
530
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:55,040
Lennox Lewis is on a
mission, and Tyrell Biggs
531
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,160
was a stepping stone.
532
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,100
And all I need is a
couple more fights,
533
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,130
and then I'll be in there
against the champion.
534
00:26:01,130 --> 00:26:04,020
All right, Larry, so Lennox
Lewis takes another step
535
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,050
toward big time
heavyweight contention,
536
00:26:06,050 --> 00:26:08,090
and we're gonna talk
to one of the big time
537
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:10,160
heavyweight contenders
of all time right now.
538
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,050
George, if you can hear me, what
did you think of Lennox Lewis?
539
00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:15,180
I was more than impressed.
540
00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:18,060
He's a great boxer and a
good right hand puncher.
541
00:26:18,060 --> 00:26:20,230
I'll tell you this, I don't
want any parts of him.
542
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:24,000
This was a fighter
that the world was not used to.
543
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,120
Articulate, to
himself, contemplative,
544
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,140
not getting into
trouble with the law,
545
00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:32,000
a chess player, a thinker.
546
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,040
And you do some meditation.
547
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,120
Can you tell us about that?
548
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,140
Yeah, I think
you've got to focus
549
00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:38,170
on what you have to accomplish.
550
00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:40,190
And you know, I
create my own facade,
551
00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:46,020
so it's very important for me to
have an even ground around me.
552
00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:47,190
This towering
dominant contender
553
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:50,010
for the world
heavyweight championship
554
00:26:50,010 --> 00:26:52,080
was mysteriously different.
555
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,210
To take his career
to the next level,
556
00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:57,090
he decided to replace
John Davenport
557
00:26:57,090 --> 00:26:59,050
with a more seasoned trainer.
558
00:26:59,050 --> 00:27:01,080
It was like a
complete 180 in terms
559
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,180
of who he chose as
a coach, because he
560
00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:06,090
went to every Pepe Correa.
561
00:27:06,090 --> 00:27:07,160
Pepe was flashy.
562
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,230
He liked movement.
563
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:12,070
He wanted Lennox not to just
stand in the middle of the ring
564
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:14,120
and use his pure size.
565
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,170
This guy, when
you talk to him,
566
00:27:15,170 --> 00:27:17,130
he gets right into your face,
and he listens everything.
567
00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:19,170
He hangs on every word that you
say, and he makes it easier.
568
00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,130
He makes my job very, very easy.
569
00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:26,120
With Pepe coming on was the
evolution of Lennox as a boxer.
570
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,120
Pure boxer, not
just someone that
571
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,170
could throw punches and
get you because he was big,
572
00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:34,160
but move, be fluid.
573
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,150
We had I think three or
four fights with Pepe,
574
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:40,040
and they kept getting better.
575
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,070
The big one was when we fought
our Donovan Razor Ruddock.
576
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:46,070
I think the only fight I was
really worried about for Lennox
577
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:49,090
was the Razor Ruddock fight,
because I knew if we'd lost,
578
00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:52,130
that was the end of the
whole road and the ride.
579
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:55,040
But it was Lennox who calmed
my nerves for that fight.
580
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,120
In my memory, the first of his
fights that we covered on HBO
581
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:02,050
was actually Halloween
night 1992 in Earls Court
582
00:28:02,050 --> 00:28:04,100
in London versus Razor Ruddock.
583
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,080
The battle between Razor
Ruddock and Lennox Lewis
584
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120
for the right to fight the
winner of Holyfield-Bowe
585
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,010
for the Heavyweight
Championship,
586
00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:12,200
an exciting night in London.
587
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,200
I was impressed that
he was so relaxed.
588
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,090
Lennox Lewis can probably be
one of the greatest fighters
589
00:28:19,090 --> 00:28:21,020
to ever come out
of this country.
590
00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:23,070
And I remember walking away
from the meeting thinking,
591
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:28,090
wow, what a very cool,
self-possessed character he is.
592
00:28:28,090 --> 00:28:32,000
I wonder if he knows
something that I don't know.
593
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,110
Not since the days of Bob
Fitzsimmons and the last decade
594
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:39,010
of the 19th century has
an English-born fighter
595
00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,140
held the heavyweight crown.
596
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,220
Lewis initiates
the action so far.
597
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:50,140
He says his plan is
to stick the jab,
598
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:54,120
stay relaxed, move away from the
left hook, and outbox Ruddock.
599
00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:58,060
Right hand by Lewis.
600
00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:00,050
Ruddock goes down!
601
00:29:00,050 --> 00:29:03,040
A smashing right cross
with perfect accuracy
602
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,160
behind the jab.
603
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,150
You cannot do it better.
604
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:10,020
And the wobbling Razor Ruddock--
605
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,060
Many were assuming
that Razor's experience
606
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,150
and ability to take
a punch would be too
607
00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:17,040
much for Lennox, who
struck many as just
608
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,040
a pretty boy from England.
609
00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:24,020
Lewis herding Ruddock
with the left hook.
610
00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:27,140
Ruddock in serious trouble as
Lewis pounds him to the canvas.
611
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:32,010
Second knockdown of the fight,
and already Lennox Lewis
612
00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:34,120
has equalled Mike
Tyson's knockout output
613
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,110
against Razor Ruddock in both
of the two Tyson-Ruddock fights.
614
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,230
Lennox Lewis is in
total command now.
615
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:43,230
Can he finish?
616
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:47,220
Right hand to the body.
617
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,220
Ruddock in trouble.
618
00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:50,210
Second knockdown of round 2.
619
00:29:54,090 --> 00:29:58,080
We have a great new heavyweight
on the boxing scene.
620
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,190
Lennox Lewis may turn out
to be not only the greatest
621
00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:06,060
heavyweight in British
history but the greatest
622
00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:08,180
fighter in European history.
623
00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:10,180
I agree, I agree!
624
00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:15,060
By 1992, Ring Magazine
had Lennox Lewis all the way up
625
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:19,050
from 9 in 1991 to number
two, behind Riddick Bowe,
626
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:21,090
the guy he had already beat.
627
00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,130
Tyson was gone.
628
00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:26,040
And in his place, Evander
Holyfield and Lennox Lewis's
629
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,140
old Olympic rival,
Riddick big daddy Bowe,
630
00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:35,030
began a four year battle for the
top spot in heavyweight boxing.
631
00:30:35,030 --> 00:30:36,190
Yo, bring it on, man.
632
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:38,180
Yeah, I'm gonna bring it.
633
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,160
He's known for
sucker punching people,
634
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,070
because I've seen
him do it before.
635
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:44,230
So I made sure I had my
hands close to my face,
636
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:47,170
ready to block anything
he was coming with.
637
00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:50,000
And I said the
same thing to him.
638
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,100
"I'm gonna knock you out."
639
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,080
Knock me out.
640
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,180
Knock me out.
641
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,220
During Bowe's second
title run with all three belts,
642
00:30:57,220 --> 00:31:01,200
he gave up the most coveted
WBC title, the same title
643
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,130
Muhammad Ali fought for.
644
00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:06,000
He mockingly dropped
it in a trash
645
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080
while pressed to defend
it against Lennox.
646
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,150
Some would say maybe he
didn't want to face Lennox.
647
00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:14,000
Some would say
maybe he was afraid
648
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,210
that Lennox would
kick his ass, just
649
00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,110
like he did in the Olympics.
650
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:20,030
When Riddick Bowe dumped
the belt in the garbage,
651
00:31:20,030 --> 00:31:22,050
Lennox definitely
was pissed off.
652
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:23,210
Disrespect.
653
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:26,020
That's another
reason why I wanted
654
00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,160
to beat his ass in the ring.
655
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Because of his
recent victory over Ruddock,
656
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,230
Lennox was awarded
the WBC title,
657
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:37,100
becoming the first British
champion in over 100 years.
658
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,200
Lennox had the
belt, but he didn't
659
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,140
really win it in the ring.
660
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:45,170
So in his next fight Lennox
had something to prove.
661
00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:47,220
In the very first fight,
Lennox was the champion
662
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:49,090
because the belt
was handed to him,
663
00:31:49,090 --> 00:31:52,120
and the opponent was Tony
Tucker, Don King's opponent.
664
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,100
He had this thing
about Don King.
665
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:57,090
Don King was
boxing's longest running pimp,
666
00:31:57,090 --> 00:31:59,060
having gone from a
neighborhood numbers
667
00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:03,070
running bookie to somehow
convincing Muhammad Ali to box
668
00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:08,090
in a charity exhibition to
then promoting Ali in the 1974
669
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:11,110
Rumble in the Jungle,
Ali's upset victory
670
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:13,030
over George Foreman.
671
00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:15,050
Throughout his life,
Don King proved
672
00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:18,030
that he was a masterful
manipulator and the game's
673
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:19,150
consummate promoter.
674
00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:21,190
In the late '80s
into the '90s, King
675
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:24,000
had his hooks into Mike Tyson.
676
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,210
Don King is one of the most
funniest men I've ever known.
677
00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:31,220
He kept saying, "Lennox,
you're the greatest.
678
00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:33,030
You should be with me.
679
00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:36,110
You should be with me, come
over to the other side!"
680
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:38,050
Here he comes now!
681
00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:41,120
Greatest heavyweight
champion of all time!
682
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040
The baddest man on
planet Earth, the
683
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,150
meet and greet the heavyweight
champion of the world,
684
00:32:47,150 --> 00:32:49,120
Lennox Lewis!
685
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,230
Lennox Lewis!
686
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:55,080
And you think, Don, let's
get down to the business.
687
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,170
I'm not worth of
tying his shoelace.
688
00:32:57,170 --> 00:33:01,010
He's standing beside me,
the messiah of boxing.
689
00:33:01,010 --> 00:33:03,160
Yes, Lennox Lewis!
690
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Once the politics, what he
called polytricks, once them
691
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,230
polytricks are more
or less smoothed out,
692
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:13,170
Don King thought Tony
Tucker would beat Lennox.
693
00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:15,110
King had a
reason to be confident.
694
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:19,160
Tucker's record was 48 in 1, his
only last being to Mike Tyson.
695
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,160
But after a 12 round slugfest,
Lennox won by decision.
696
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,130
With his title legitimized,
next up he would face
697
00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:28,140
fellow englishman Frank Bruno.
698
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:35,100
Great Britain, where prize
fighting finds its roots,
699
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:39,110
the past 100 years have given
them little reason to cheer.
700
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:41,150
There's a great tradition
of boxing in this country.
701
00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:45,000
Unfortunately we don't have too
many good fighters these days.
702
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,100
And we certainly haven't had
too many good heavyweights.
703
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,070
The last undisputed
British heavyweight champion
704
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:54,080
was Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897.
705
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,220
Not until the arrival
of Lennox Lewis in 1992
706
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,040
would the British be
able to claim another.
707
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,210
But tonight's event takes
on greater significance,
708
00:34:01,210 --> 00:34:04,010
as it marks the first
time in history that two
709
00:34:04,010 --> 00:34:05,120
englishmen have
battled one another
710
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,150
for a world heavyweight title.
711
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:09,060
This guys been slagging
me down ever since he's
712
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:10,090
come back from Canada.
713
00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:12,200
I'm going to knock him out,
knock him back to Canada.
714
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,230
I'm gonna knock him out so
hard that he's got to pay
715
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:16,070
to come back into the hall.
716
00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:17,160
He said he's gonna
hit you so hard it's
717
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,060
gonna send you back to Canada.
718
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:22,050
Not a very nice
thing to say, but--
719
00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:25,100
Well, he's trying to scare
me, but I can't be faded.
720
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,210
You will be knocked out.
721
00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:29,200
Fight like you will
leave your feet.
722
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,090
We'll put you to sleep.
723
00:34:31,090 --> 00:34:33,200
I mean, bring a pillow
to ringside for you.
724
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Big boy, you going.
725
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,050
And lest you be
confused by that graphic,
726
00:34:39,050 --> 00:34:43,130
keep in mind that Lewis
was awarded the WBC
727
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:48,050
heavyweight championship by that
governing body after Riddick
728
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:51,040
Bowe relinquished it
rather than to fight
729
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,170
him in a mandatory challenge.
730
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:55,050
That's why Bruno has
the chance to become
731
00:34:55,050 --> 00:35:00,060
the first British heavyweight
to win a title in the ring.
732
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:03,190
No heavyweight has looked better
in the last couple of years
733
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:06,230
than Lewis with his
stunning destruction
734
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:13,050
of Razor Ruddock in 216 seconds
in Earls Court last October.
735
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:17,090
Bruno pounding his fists
together to jack himself up.
736
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:20,190
Mickey Van calls them
together, and round 1--
737
00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:22,140
Good right hand by Bruno!
738
00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:25,140
Bruno has Lewis
in serious trouble.
739
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,020
Let's see if Lennox
knows how to hold on.
740
00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:32,010
Bruno pounding away to the body.
741
00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:34,170
That right hand is one of the
biggest punches Lennox Lewis
742
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:38,040
has ever taken in his career.
743
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,230
Lewis in trouble in the corner.
744
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:42,020
And lands a
sensational left hook.
745
00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:44,040
What a comeback by Lewis.
746
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Now let's see if he can finish.
747
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,110
Bruno in serious trouble.
748
00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:49,060
He's got him now,
if he can finish.
749
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:51,140
Right hand over the top.
750
00:35:51,140 --> 00:35:54,040
It was a left hook
that turned this around
751
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,170
and a frozen Frank Bruno is
there kicking punishment.
752
00:35:58,170 --> 00:36:02,000
And making Mickey
Van is gonna stop it.
753
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,070
It was a one punch comeback.
754
00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:08,030
Lennox Lewis, desperately
behind on the score cards,
755
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:10,200
produced a
sensational left hook.
756
00:36:13,090 --> 00:36:16,160
Lennox started
1994 off with a bang.
757
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,190
He defended his title
with an eighth round
758
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:21,090
knockout of Phil Jackson.
759
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:23,050
Pepe and I would
kind of butt heads
760
00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:26,040
in terms of what
was best for Lennox
761
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,110
in terms of what he wanted.
762
00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:32,040
Where Davenport would
say to me, "this is what
763
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,170
I need Lennox to do, do it."
764
00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:36,190
Pepe would always be
overseeing and overseeing,
765
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:41,080
and I think that started to
rub Lennox the wrong way.
766
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040
We were in training
camp for the Oliver
767
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,210
McCall fight in the Catskills.
768
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:48,080
And I watched Pepe
Correa with Lennox.
769
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,110
And Lennox was sparring.
770
00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:51,090
And he caught one of
the sparring partners
771
00:36:51,090 --> 00:36:52,080
and wobbled him.
772
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,210
And it was only the first
round or second round.
773
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:56,160
And Pepe went,
"that's great, champ.
774
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,080
That's great, champ.
775
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,110
We don't need to see no more."
776
00:36:58,110 --> 00:37:02,200
And I thought, what
the hell's he doing?
777
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,160
One round of sparring?
778
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,170
And I sat with Lennox.
779
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:09,140
And I said, "Lennox, you're
not responding to Pepe.
780
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:11,090
Please let me sack Pepe."
781
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:13,070
I said, I'll help Harold.
782
00:37:13,070 --> 00:37:14,180
I'll help Courtney.
783
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:16,210
We can get through this,
because you trust them.
784
00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:19,140
I said, and they're
there for you.
785
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:22,020
Pepe is a cheerleader.
786
00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:25,050
And Lennox went, "Frank,
I can deal with it.
787
00:37:25,050 --> 00:37:26,170
I'll win this fight,
and then we'll sit down,
788
00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:28,010
and we'll sort out Pepe."
789
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:31,020
The Atomic Bull, as
Oliver McCall is known,
790
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,200
will exit from his dressing room
and make his way to the ring
791
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,150
right now.
792
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:36,210
As you can see, it's the first
championship fight for the man
793
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,150
promoted by Don King.
794
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:41,180
It's not unusual for
a fighter of his caliber
795
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,090
to get a championship shot.
796
00:37:43,090 --> 00:37:47,180
What is unusual is that somebody
like that should be required
797
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:51,040
to fight for the Heavyweight
Championship by somehow
798
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,200
mysteriously being ranked
as the top contender.
799
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,070
Record for Lennox
Lewis, 25 wins, no losses.
800
00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:02,170
21 wins by knockout,
including two
801
00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:05,060
of the three title defenses.
802
00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:07,230
Jim, it looks to me that
Oliver McCall is so emotional,
803
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:09,030
he's crying.
804
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:11,000
I had the exact same feeling.
805
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,010
He's trying to screw
up his courage,
806
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:15,070
but I think he's
wasting energy here.
807
00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:17,000
That's exactly what I said.
808
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200
So after some unusual moments--
809
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,010
they seem to crop up in every
heavyweight championship
810
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:22,180
fight--
811
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:23,080
here we go.
812
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,180
The bull has been known to
have very, very good stamina.
813
00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:32,110
If the first round
is a prototype,
814
00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:37,060
so far it's a good
one for Oliver McCall.
815
00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:40,120
Lennox caught McCall with a
good punch in the first round.
816
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,020
And when he came back on
his stool, he sat down,
817
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:46,080
and Pepe Correa went to him,
"forget everything I've taught.
818
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120
Just go out and knock him out."
819
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,130
You're looking good, OK?
820
00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:51,230
You're fighting a very
intelligent fighter.
821
00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:53,060
You're taking this
next punch away
822
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:54,030
from him in the right hand.
- Right.
823
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:56,120
He shot it twice, and every
time you roll and counter.
824
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,000
You caught him with
it once but you're
825
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,100
gonna make him quit
throwing it if you keep
826
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,080
throwing everything at him, OK?
827
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,050
Lewis threw more left
hands and fewer right
828
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:05,150
hands in the first
round than we've
829
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:12,070
seen him before, Gill, I thought
it was by his own fight plan.
830
00:39:12,070 --> 00:39:16,230
But perhaps that's also
the fight plan of Stewart.
831
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:17,130
And you know--
832
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,070
down goes Lewis.
833
00:39:21,070 --> 00:39:22,090
Down goes Lewis.
834
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:24,190
He caught a short
left hand inside.
835
00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:30,180
Six, seven, eight, nine--
836
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,150
What is this?
837
00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:35,090
The WBC's referee has
stopped this fight
838
00:39:35,090 --> 00:39:40,050
after a count to nine with
Lewis standing in front of him.
839
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,000
And we're gonna
have a riot here.
840
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,100
Jose Guadalupe Garcia stopped
the fight in the second round.
841
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:50,170
But let's take a look at the
punch that put Lewis down.
842
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,220
That's hardly a
devastating punch.
843
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,180
This is really unusual.
844
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:57,020
But when you have a
heavyweight championship fight,
845
00:39:57,020 --> 00:39:58,220
the heavyweight
champion should have
846
00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:03,190
a chance to defend his title
almost to the last breath.
847
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:05,210
It's a strange sport,
Gill, and you see
848
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:08,100
strange things all the time.
849
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,110
You don't wanna leap to too
many conclusions too fast,
850
00:40:11,110 --> 00:40:14,000
but you saw the
joy with which Don
851
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,160
King embraces his
return to a part
852
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,020
of the heavyweight championship.
853
00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:20,100
It's been a few
years, and he's back.
854
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,160
Returned from almost oblivion.
855
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,070
Back on top again with
a heavyweight champion.
856
00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:26,210
Never count him out.
857
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:29,020
Are we going to see
you again, Lennox?
858
00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:29,180
Yes.
859
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:32,050
I may be down, but I'm not out.
860
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:33,230
Thank you very much, Lennox.
861
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:37,000
We were all sad coming
back into the hotel room,
862
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,010
you know, with our faces down.
863
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:44,140
He said to us, "why
are we all down?
864
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:46,080
We shouldn't be down.
865
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,170
You know, I'm gonna come back,
and I'm gonna beat this guy."
866
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:52,110
That morning, about
5:00 in the morning,
867
00:40:52,110 --> 00:40:54,160
both he and Frank
Maloney, they were
868
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,130
already plotting
how we were gonna
869
00:40:57,130 --> 00:40:59,030
go back and get the title.
870
00:40:59,030 --> 00:41:00,200
Lennox
maintained the same core
871
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000
team throughout his career.
872
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,230
People like Courtney and
Egerton, who we grew up with,
873
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:09,020
or like Herald
Knight, who was right
874
00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:12,170
there at the start of his
career, people that kept him
875
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,060
grounded.
876
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:17,210
But at critical points, Lennox
always found a better captain
877
00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:19,230
to steer the ship,
especially when it
878
00:41:19,230 --> 00:41:23,010
went through turbulent waters.
879
00:41:23,010 --> 00:41:26,210
After the upset victory
of Oliver McCall, who
880
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:30,110
better to hire than the
architect of his only loss,
881
00:41:30,110 --> 00:41:33,040
Emanuel Steward?
882
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,050
Emanuel Steward
was good friends
883
00:41:35,050 --> 00:41:38,020
with one of my first
mentors, John Davenport.
884
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:44,130
So when he came with us,
our team with Lennox Lewis,
885
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:47,090
I was more happy than
Lennox, because, man,
886
00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:49,030
Steward was like a sage.
887
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:50,030
He was a guru.
888
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:54,190
Frank Maloney and myself,
after Lennox got knocked out
889
00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:59,100
by Oliver McCall, we literally
pulled Emanuel Steward right
890
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,210
then and there in the
ring, you're coming
891
00:42:01,210 --> 00:42:03,130
with us from here on out.
892
00:42:03,130 --> 00:42:06,210
Before engineering
Lennox's only defeat,
893
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:09,100
Emanuel Steward had
developed a reputation
894
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,160
for turning good
boxes into champions
895
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,140
of the highest caliber.
896
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:16,120
When I first became
involved with Lennox,
897
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,140
Lennox actually was too
tentative and too cautious.
898
00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:21,220
But I've always predicted
that Lennox Lewis would
899
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:24,170
be a great heavyweight, was
possibly the best heavyweight
900
00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:26,200
out there, even when
I was training Evander
901
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,210
Holyfield and Oliver McCall.
902
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:31,220
Particularly the fights
where people are questioning
903
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:35,040
his toughness, I would say.
904
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,110
Those seem to be the fights
that motivate him the most.
905
00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:39,090
One of the things that made
Emanuel Steward the greatest
906
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:41,160
boxing trainer of all
time, in my personal view,
907
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,030
was that he perfectly understood
that every single fighter comes
908
00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:49,070
from a different incubus,
a different background.
909
00:42:49,070 --> 00:42:52,210
And he wanted to know who
they were, and know what made
910
00:42:52,210 --> 00:42:55,140
them tick, and respond to that.
911
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,200
The first time I actually
met Emanuel Steward,
912
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,140
he said he watched me
boxing, and he thinks
913
00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:03,050
I have a lot of natural
talent, and he thinks
914
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:04,060
I'll be a champion one day.
915
00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:06,220
But he told me that way
when I was an amateur.
916
00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:08,080
And then we picked
him up at the airport,
917
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,070
went out for dinner,
and Lennox, while we
918
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,050
were having dinner,
started saying "Manny,
919
00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:14,160
tell me how you beat me."
920
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,230
And he'd get up and
he'd demonstrate.
921
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:18,230
"I saw you doing this.
922
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:20,140
This is what we looked for.
923
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:22,070
We knew this was one
of your tendencies,
924
00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:25,060
and we wanted to lure
you into this position.
925
00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:27,020
We're gonna get in the gym,
and I'm gonna change that,
926
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:29,060
so you never get caught
with that punch again."
927
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:30,160
He said to Lennox, "I
want you in the gym
928
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,210
tomorrow morning, 9:00."
929
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:35,140
The one thing that was
different about Manny,
930
00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:38,110
he got right in the
ring, and he showed you.
931
00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:40,120
I went to meet with
Lennox, and after the meeting
932
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,010
I had a good feeling.
933
00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:43,190
And we worked out in the gym.
934
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:46,110
There was very good chemistry
between Lennox and I.
935
00:43:46,110 --> 00:43:50,220
And I decided that
I was gonna do it.
936
00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:55,000
When Emanuel
took over, I think
937
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,220
more of the technical
side came out in Lennox.
938
00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:02,070
It was more about
boxing, more about the jab,
939
00:44:02,070 --> 00:44:05,070
more about the uppercut,
the right hook.
940
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:09,050
He wasn't just a
trainer, a coach, a mentor.
941
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:10,220
He was a people's person.
942
00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:13,160
He used to take myself,
obviously Lennox Lewis,
943
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,200
and Courtney Shand driving
around town in his candy
944
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,170
apple Rolls Royce with the white
top, with the white top down.
945
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:27,030
And that personal relationship,
he used to talk with Lennox.
946
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:28,170
He used to talk with all of us.
947
00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:31,110
We always went to camp
for like almost 12 weeks.
948
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:34,140
The first week was just,
I want you guys to sleep.
949
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:36,150
I want you guys
to get some rest.
950
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:37,110
We're gonna get up.
951
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:39,110
We're not gonna start
training right away.
952
00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:41,140
Just come in, rest.
953
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:44,090
You remember Pepe Correa,
who was Lewis's trainer,
954
00:44:44,090 --> 00:44:46,140
fired after Lewis's
loss to Oliver McCall.
955
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:50,120
Tonight, he will work in
Lionel Butler's corner.
956
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,220
Emanuel Steward trained Evander
Holyfield to his upset victory
957
00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:58,220
over Riddick Bowe,
and then trained
958
00:44:58,220 --> 00:45:03,100
McCall, as we've mentioned,
to his victory over Lewis.
959
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:06,190
Lewis suddenly doing a lot
of work with the left hand.
960
00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:09,210
And that is relatively new.
961
00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:12,100
Go out there and jump on this.
962
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,190
You gotta jump on him,
hit him in the head.
963
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:16,010
Keep your right hand up.
964
00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:20,070
Your biggest mistake is
your right hand is too low.
965
00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:24,020
And that right hand might
be enough to finish it.
966
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:25,020
And it is.
967
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:28,230
And the thunder is still there
in Lennox Lewis's right hand.
968
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:31,000
Lennox Lewis has got
this punching power.
969
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,110
All he needs is a
little more confident.
970
00:45:32,110 --> 00:45:34,020
This guy can rule the
heavyweight division
971
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:37,000
for a long time with
that extra reach he has.
972
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,150
Resistance.
973
00:45:37,150 --> 00:45:39,130
There's a lot of it.
974
00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:43,010
He's caught here
and ..
975
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:45,010
It stopped.
976
00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:47,010
Even before he hit the
floor, Roy
977
00:45:47,010 --> 00:45:48,070
decided that that was enough.
978
00:45:48,070 --> 00:45:51,100
His were blocked by
Lennox Lewis's arms.
979
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,200
And there's a
monumental uppercut.
980
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,180
This is the best
Lewis we've seen
981
00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:59,160
in a while, much more measured,
less wild, better footwork.
982
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,210
Much better footwork.
983
00:46:00,210 --> 00:46:03,000
Lane is getting very
close to a stoppage here.
984
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,160
You get that sense.
985
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Now goes Morrison again.
986
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,190
A terrific performance
by Lennox Lewis.
987
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:12,060
Defensively he kept
that right hand up,
988
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:16,120
so that he completely
neutralized Tommy Morrison's
989
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,040
outstanding left hook.
990
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,170
You describe for us
how you were different,
991
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:23,110
or how you felt
different in this fight
992
00:46:23,110 --> 00:46:25,010
than you have in
some other fights.
993
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:26,080
Differently Emanuel Steward.
994
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080
I have to give credit to
Emanuel Steward and the team
995
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,180
behind me, Courtney Shand,
Harold the Shadow Knight.
996
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:32,110
They've helped me develop this.
997
00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:34,230
Lennox beat Tommy
Morrison in brutal fashion.
998
00:46:38,110 --> 00:46:40,150
Meanwhile, Tyson
was out of prison
999
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:44,000
and making his own comeback,
winning the WBC belt
1000
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,080
for the second time
after he defeated
1001
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,170
Frank Bruno, who had won it
by beating Oliver McCall.
1002
00:46:50,170 --> 00:46:53,160
Every fight brought
us a new objective.
1003
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,010
I wanted to know that if
a man's blocking my jab
1004
00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:58,220
and he's learned to
control my job, well,
1005
00:46:58,220 --> 00:47:00,020
I've got a right hand.
1006
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:01,220
If he's learned to
control that right hand,
1007
00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:03,210
I've got an uppercut hook.
1008
00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:12,180
For the winner on a split
decision, Lennox Lewis!
1009
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,180
The WBC belt,
what happens now?
1010
00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:16,020
If you don't fight
Lennox Lewis, they're
1011
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,000
either gonna take it away
or something's gonna happen.
1012
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,020
I take all challengers.
1013
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:19,180
Line them up.
1014
00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:21,050
After
defeating Ray Mercer,
1015
00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:25,090
the WBC named Lennox as Tyson's
next mandatory challenge.
1016
00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:27,100
But Tyson's handlers
wouldn't agree to a fight
1017
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:31,020
with Lennox, which led to a
rematch with Oliver McCall.
1018
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Good combination by Lewis.
1019
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,110
Left hook and a right
hand over the top.
1020
00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:46,090
Just take your time, son.
1021
00:47:46,090 --> 00:47:48,210
Start ripping into the
body a little bit now, OK?
1022
00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:50,060
You're not pushing back any.
1023
00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:51,070
You gonna start pushing back.
1024
00:47:51,070 --> 00:47:53,120
McCall is doing a very
strange thing here, folks.
1025
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,180
He's walking around.
1026
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:56,030
He's wandering
around the ring.
1027
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:58,200
He hasn't gone to his corner,
and he's trying to figure out
1028
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,020
what's gone wrong.
1029
00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:03,100
Lennox Lewis in an awfully
difficult and awkward position.
1030
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,180
Lewis doing what he has to do.
1031
00:48:09,010 --> 00:48:13,060
You wonder how much longer Mills
Lane will allow this to go.
1032
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:17,030
And that's-- that's gonna be it.
1033
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:19,180
After avenging his
only loss by defeating Oliver
1034
00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:24,020
McCall, Lennox dominated his
next three opponents, all
1035
00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:26,110
of them top 10 contenders,
who many thought
1036
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:28,070
would give him trouble.
1037
00:48:28,070 --> 00:48:30,230
While Lennox was blazing
through the division,
1038
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:33,170
Mike Tyson was struggling
to defeat his own demons.
1039
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:40,170
What happened here?
1040
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:41,160
He got bit, I think.
1041
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,210
My goodness, he's
got a bloody right ear!
1042
00:48:43,210 --> 00:48:47,120
Holyfield bit by a
dirty Mike Tyson.
1043
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,070
See, look at him.
1044
00:48:48,070 --> 00:48:49,010
You can see it.
1045
00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:50,160
You can see it!
1046
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,030
There it is!
1047
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:54,150
I can't believe what
I'm seeing, fellas.
1048
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:56,180
He's signaling that it's over.
1049
00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:59,010
I think they've just
about had enough.
1050
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:02,200
Tyson showing desperation and
biting Holyfield two times.
1051
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,120
Look out now!
1052
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,210
More fighting in the ring
After the end of the fight.
1053
00:49:10,210 --> 00:49:13,100
With two victories
now over Tyson and Bowe
1054
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,200
out of the picture,
Evander holyfield
1055
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,110
was considered the real deal.
1056
00:49:17,110 --> 00:49:21,080
Lennox ranked number two behind
him for three years in a row.
1057
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,050
'96, '97, and '98.
1058
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,100
That had him burning up inside.
1059
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,070
There was only one
way to settle it.
1060
00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:32,070
Riddick Bowe didn't
want to fight Lennox,
1061
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:33,220
so Riddick Bowe came to me.
1062
00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,170
Tyson didn't fight Lennox.
1063
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:37,050
He fought me.
1064
00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:40,100
Each and every time that
they had an opportunity
1065
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:44,020
to choose to fight Lennox,
they chose to fight me,
1066
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:46,150
because they thought I
was a lesser opponent.
1067
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:47,190
And I always surprised them.
1068
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:54,160
So out of respect, I had
to face him and give him
1069
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,170
the opportunity
that he had given
1070
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:59,080
me of being the three time
heavyweight champ of the world.
1071
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040
With a victory over
Evander Holyfield,
1072
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Lennox Lewis will become maybe
one of the most powerful men
1073
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,140
to ever be in boxing.
1074
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,100
This will take you and bring
you into full visualization.
1075
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:26,050
This is your hour.
1076
00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:28,010
Before you talk
about Tyson, Tyson
1077
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:30,000
will be bigger than the event.
1078
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,030
No matter if you
win, you don't win.
1079
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:32,200
You know what I mean?
1080
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,230
Holyfield has
diminished that light.
1081
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:36,120
You've got it going in here.
1082
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,000
I don't know what it is, but
this is the type of fight
1083
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,100
that's got us all excited.
1084
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,040
It broke me out
into a cold sweat.
1085
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,160
The time had come for
Lennox and Evander Holyfield
1086
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,030
to touch gloves.
1087
00:50:46,030 --> 00:50:49,000
Entire career, two-time
heavyweight champion
1088
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,100
of the world, Olympic
gold medal winner,
1089
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,210
it won't mean
anything if he does
1090
00:50:52,210 --> 00:50:54,010
not beat Evander Holyfield.
1091
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:56,140
He will just be another kid
with dreadlocks from England.
1092
00:50:56,140 --> 00:51:00,180
I got Sean Connery doing the
voiceover on the commercial.
1093
00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:01,090
Get out of here.
1094
00:51:01,090 --> 00:51:02,180
Yeah?
1095
00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:04,120
007, baby!
1096
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,050
And what's it been like the
last few days in New York?
1097
00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:09,000
Countless press
conferences, everybody
1098
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,180
wanting to talk to you?
1099
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:10,160
You must get fed up with it.
1100
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,000
You must want to
get on with it now.
1101
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Yeah, definitely.
1102
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,060
I've done countless interviews
asking the same questions
1103
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:18,130
over and over.
1104
00:51:18,130 --> 00:51:22,180
Now I think these questions need
to be answered with a fight.
1105
00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:23,200
Believe me,
Holyfield gonna put
1106
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,130
something on his hands, man.
1107
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:26,190
Oh, yeah, he gonna
pound on his ass.
1108
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:27,130
Come on, man.
1109
00:51:27,130 --> 00:51:28,210
He gonna get pounded on, man.
1110
00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:31,220
We couldn't paint a ticket
in if we were an artist.
1111
00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:34,230
It's a sold out fight three
months before the fight.
1112
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:37,220
It's the fastest sell-out
in heavyweight history,
1113
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:39,170
in the history of the garden.
1114
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:42,100
And so we have just the
biggest fight, four times
1115
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,150
as big as any event
money-wise in the garden.
1116
00:51:45,150 --> 00:51:48,080
So these are some first
in history making events
1117
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,110
that you have with the
Real Deal Holyfield
1118
00:51:50,110 --> 00:51:53,160
against Lennox Lewis,
Holyfield, of kind of the IBF
1119
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,080
and the WBA, Lennox Lewis,
the king of the WBC,
1120
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,070
and Don King, the
king of the ring.
1121
00:52:00,070 --> 00:52:01,200
Don't even worry.
1122
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,030
Don't even worry.
1123
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:08,060
Lenny, you got your jacket?
1124
00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:08,200
Yeah.
1125
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:15,000
Before you was
born, it was written.
1126
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000
This is the moment of truth.
1127
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:22,030
Lennox Lewis enters first.
1128
00:52:22,030 --> 00:52:25,020
He has labored long
and bucked the tide
1129
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,020
of a lot of disrespect on
this side of the Atlantic
1130
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:30,200
to get to this threshold.
1131
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,150
As a professional, 34 wins, the
one second round knockout loss
1132
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:38,130
one punch at the
hands of McCall later
1133
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:43,140
avenged, 27 knockouts for
the two-time belt-holder
1134
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:46,160
from England.
1135
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:55,120
We sing Holy Father,
power and strength to the Lord.
1136
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,120
And here we go.
1137
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,190
It's the moment you've
all been waiting for.
1138
00:53:04,030 --> 00:53:06,120
Only three men
left in the ring.
1139
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,110
And we're underway.
1140
00:53:11,070 --> 00:53:13,210
Holyfield seeming to
slip as Lewis landed
1141
00:53:13,210 --> 00:53:15,090
the first punch of the bout.
1142
00:53:15,090 --> 00:53:18,090
That goes by the wayside
because Holyfield only
1143
00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:22,070
threw 17 punches in round 1.
1144
00:53:22,070 --> 00:53:25,010
Quiet here at floor
level, where the Holyfield
1145
00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:28,080
fans are wondering why
their man doesn't get off.
1146
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,210
Raucous noise in the
upper deck, where
1147
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:35,040
the englishmen are enjoying
Lewis's early dominance.
1148
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,150
--Won't win for
Evander Holyfield.
1149
00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:43,120
And he cringes against the ropes
as Lewis lands a right hand.
1150
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,230
They're singing upstairs.
1151
00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:48,100
They're cheering downstairs.
1152
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,140
The applause is building.
1153
00:53:59,070 --> 00:54:03,070
Not since Bob
Fitzsimmons in 1897
1154
00:54:03,070 --> 00:54:05,120
has a citizen of
Great Britain held an
1155
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,040
undisputed heavyweight title.
1156
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,030
We may be minutes away from
that watershed right now.
1157
00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:15,160
Final punch stat numbers
are overwhelmingly
1158
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,190
one sided, Lewis
landing 218 more blows,
1159
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,220
more than doubling Holyfield's
landed punch number,
1160
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:26,020
and nearly doubling his output.
1161
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:28,220
We go to the
scorecards at this time.
1162
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:32,000
Judge at ringside
Eugenia Williams scores
1163
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,230
about 115 to 113 in favor
of Evander Holyfield.
1164
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:43,090
Judge at ringside Stanley
Christodoulou scores
1165
00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:50,230
about 116 to 113 in
favor of Lennox Lewis.
1166
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:53,190
Judge at ringside
Larry O'Connell scores
1167
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:59,020
the bout 115 to 115.
1168
00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:02,210
Even a draw, the
decision is even a draw.
1169
00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:05,150
Both champions
retain their belts.
1170
00:55:11,070 --> 00:55:12,220
That's a travesty.
1171
00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:15,180
That is, ladies and
gentlemen, a travesty,
1172
00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:18,190
an outrage, a highway robbery.
1173
00:55:18,190 --> 00:55:21,110
Lennox Lewis has
just been robbed
1174
00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:24,140
of the undisputed heavyweight
championship of the world.
1175
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,200
He won it, and he didn't get it.
1176
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,200
You know, that is a shame.
1177
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,210
Emanuel Steward, first
give us your impression
1178
00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:38,040
of the scoring of the fight.
1179
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,120
You know, first of all,
it was a terrible decision.
1180
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,090
Anybody can see the fight.
1181
00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:43,140
Now, I normally
don't even complain,
1182
00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:46,030
even the Thomas Hearns Sugar
Ray Leonard number 2 fight.
1183
00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:48,220
But this fight is really
what's hurting boxing.
1184
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:52,110
Every time we try to move boxing
forward and make a great fight
1185
00:55:52,110 --> 00:55:54,220
of some type like
this, this kind of crap
1186
00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:56,220
just comes on, where
Evander only won
1187
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,100
three rounds, four at the most.
1188
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,060
But nevertheless,
it's called a draw.
1189
00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:05,080
This is what's killing boxing.
1190
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:11,000
Watch it, watch it, watch it.
1191
00:56:16,170 --> 00:56:17,190
I was fucking afraid of that.
1192
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,080
A draw?
1193
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,070
You shut his ass down.
1194
00:56:24,070 --> 00:56:25,100
Let's talk like
we're champions.
1195
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:26,040
We won the fight.
1196
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,190
That's how we're talking
at the press conference.
1197
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:28,170
Yeah.
1198
00:56:28,170 --> 00:56:29,150
Positive vibes.
1199
00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:30,160
Positive.
1200
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,150
We're the people's
champion, at all times.
1201
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:33,110
We're here.
1202
00:56:33,110 --> 00:56:36,090
We're here to face
all of our accusers.
1203
00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:37,120
Don't be shy.
1204
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080
If you think that
he lost the fight,
1205
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,230
tell him that you think that.
1206
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:42,100
The judges didn't think it.
1207
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,210
And I tell you, he's
ready to do it again.
1208
00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:47,090
When you get a man hurt,
you're supposed to finish it.
1209
00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:49,050
You don't play chess with it.
1210
00:56:49,050 --> 00:56:50,070
Where was that third round?
1211
00:56:50,070 --> 00:56:51,050
That's what I want to know.
1212
00:56:51,050 --> 00:56:54,040
What happened in
that third round?
1213
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,210
Well, Lennox, you know what?
1214
00:56:55,210 --> 00:56:57,130
Have you ever thought
about when we fight again,
1215
00:56:57,130 --> 00:56:58,210
I got another chance to do it?
1216
00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:04,050
Yes, yes, it ain't over yet!
1217
00:57:04,050 --> 00:57:05,130
Yeah, it's not over.
1218
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,160
It ain't over yet!
1219
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,140
Thank you very much.
1220
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:09,170
You're very kind,
and I love you.
1221
00:57:09,170 --> 00:57:11,100
Now we gonna do it again!
1222
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,100
Don is a very smart man.
1223
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,180
Regardless of what
people say about him,
1224
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:16,070
Don is a very smart man.
1225
00:57:16,070 --> 00:57:22,190
So when Lennox never signed
with Don and beat every fighter,
1226
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:26,090
that more or less incensed
Don a little bit more
1227
00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:30,200
to have that little
thing against Lennox.
1228
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,080
It seems so unfair that guys
like Don King and Bob Arum
1229
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,180
and these guys are getting
crazy rich off of the blood
1230
00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:38,080
and sweat of these
boxers, and then
1231
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,140
they end up with very little.
1232
00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:40,040
Absolutely.
1233
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,070
I mean, if you look at
the Holyfield fight,
1234
00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:46,110
Holyfield made $15
million in one fight.
1235
00:57:46,110 --> 00:57:49,080
I made 10, and Don King made 10.
1236
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,220
But he never
stepped in the ring.
1237
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:52,070
You know what you
guys should have done?
1238
00:57:52,070 --> 00:57:54,120
Honestly, after the fight,
beat the out of him.
1239
00:57:56,110 --> 00:57:58,230
Right after it.
1240
00:57:58,230 --> 00:58:01,170
Now after being in
the ring with Holyfield,
1241
00:58:01,170 --> 00:58:05,040
we didn't have to really go
back to study tapes and do this,
1242
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,010
because Lennox had 12
rounds in his mind.
1243
00:58:09,010 --> 00:58:11,040
And once you've fought
with Lennox once,
1244
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,100
once he's in the
ring with you once,
1245
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,160
there is no way you're gonna
get him the second time.
1246
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,220
We knew, OK, we can't
leave it to the judges.
1247
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,170
We weren't just gonna
be fighting Holyfield.
1248
00:58:20,170 --> 00:58:22,040
We'll be fighting the judges.
1249
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,210
We'll be fighting
the establishment.
1250
00:58:24,210 --> 00:58:27,050
He hopes for a rematch
with you if he can.
1251
00:58:27,050 --> 00:58:29,010
Who?
1252
00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:30,110
Holyfield.
1253
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:35,060
Boxing for the undisputed
heavyweight championship
1254
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:37,060
of the world.
1255
00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:42,160
We shall have drama tonight.
1256
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:50,140
Already we can see
Holyfield trying to get closer
1257
00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:53,020
to Lewis right from the get-go.
1258
00:58:58,010 --> 00:58:59,040
Get his attention.
1259
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,110
Keep shooting the right hand.
1260
00:59:00,110 --> 00:59:02,080
You're shooting him
right, but shoot him low.
1261
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,030
Don't shoot him high.
1262
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:06,220
Keep your arms close.
1263
00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:08,100
Lewis to the body.
1264
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,210
His own right hand lands flush.
1265
00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:14,210
They trade shots at close
range, and summon the best round
1266
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:17,130
these two fighters have fought
against each other in two
1267
00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:18,090
fights.
1268
00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:19,210
Their heads come
together again,
1269
00:59:19,210 --> 00:59:23,010
and Lewis produces some good
in-fighting as he drives
1270
00:59:23,010 --> 00:59:23,210
Evander back to the wall.
1271
00:59:23,210 --> 00:59:25,130
Well, Evander Holyfield
won't knock down anybody.
1272
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:27,200
Uppercut lands for Lewis.
1273
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Multiple punches for Lewis.
1274
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Holyfield knocked
over, fires the right
1275
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,210
and drives Lewis into the ropes.
1276
00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:38,200
Lennox goes back to the
body and the uppercut.
1277
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Lewis throws more and lands
more in almost every round.
1278
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,200
We're gonna find out in five
more seconds of fighting.
1279
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,080
They fought a much
better fight this time.
1280
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:53,210
And the fans appreciate it.
1281
00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:58,000
We go to the scorecards
with a unanimous decision.
1282
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,040
Here are the score totals.
1283
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Judge at ringside Jerry
Roth scores it 115 to 113.
1284
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,160
Judge Chuck Giampa
scores it 116 to 112.
1285
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:19,170
Judge at ringside Bill Graham
sees it 117 to 111, all three
1286
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:24,190
in favor of the winner and the
undisputed heavyweight champion
1287
01:00:24,190 --> 01:00:31,040
of the world, Lennox Lewis.
1288
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,180
The first unified
heavyweight champion
1289
01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:53,180
from Britain in a century,
what do you think this will do
1290
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:57,110
for your legacy as a fighter
and the respect you have tried
1291
01:00:57,110 --> 01:01:00,040
to win over the last decade?
1292
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,210
I think I went through
some trials and tribulations,
1293
01:01:03,210 --> 01:01:06,160
and enough people were
trying to stop me.
1294
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,030
The Americans didn't want me
to take it over the Atlantic
1295
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:12,200
to Britain, but I actually
persevered and succeeded.
1296
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,010
Finally, with his
clear victory over Holyfield,
1297
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:19,150
Lennox ended the '90s number
one from Ring Magazine
1298
01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:21,060
for the very first time.
1299
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:26,130
Here he was, Lennox Lewis,
the undisputed greatest.
1300
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:29,150
The year 2000 was
prime time for Lennox.
1301
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:32,210
He fought Michael
Grant, a 6'7 heavyweight
1302
01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:36,060
from Chicago who was even
bigger and seven years younger.
1303
01:01:41,170 --> 01:01:44,110
But he kicked his ass
in only two rounds.
1304
01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:46,080
Lennox went back
to England and got
1305
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,060
Botha again in only two rounds.
1306
01:01:49,060 --> 01:01:53,060
Finally in November, he took
on a real fire hydrant, the guy
1307
01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:54,210
that everyone said
was hard to hit
1308
01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:57,150
like Tyson, Samoan David Tua.
1309
01:01:57,150 --> 01:02:00,160
But Lennox showed an ability
to adapt to any style
1310
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,090
and won a decision in 12.
1311
01:02:02,090 --> 01:02:06,020
This is a lights out,
artistic performance
1312
01:02:06,020 --> 01:02:09,130
by a heavyweight champion
who, for the moment,
1313
01:02:09,130 --> 01:02:12,130
looks impregnable.
1314
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:15,170
The people of Britain have
voted Muhammad Ali the sports
1315
01:02:15,170 --> 01:02:18,070
personality of the century.
1316
01:02:18,070 --> 01:02:20,090
Finally,
with the respect
1317
01:02:20,090 --> 01:02:22,170
of being the
undisputed champion,
1318
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:25,130
Lennox was honored by his
country alongside his greatest
1319
01:02:25,130 --> 01:02:26,090
childhood hero.
1320
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:31,130
Muhammad Ali, our
sports personality
1321
01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:33,180
of the century, Lennox
Lewis, our sports
1322
01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:35,130
personality of the year.
1323
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,040
While Lennox was
at the peak of his career,
1324
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,090
Frank struggled to keep a deep
secret hidden from the world.
1325
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,100
I've always known
I was very different.
1326
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:59,070
From the age of three and four,
I am born in the wrong body.
1327
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:00,130
I could never let
anyone know this,
1328
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:01,220
so I would have to fight it.
1329
01:03:01,220 --> 01:03:04,060
So all my life I went
through fighting it.
1330
01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:08,190
Lennox Lewis's career
and my success in boxing
1331
01:03:08,190 --> 01:03:11,060
gave me something
else to focus on.
1332
01:03:11,060 --> 01:03:13,110
But eventually there was
a change in the business
1333
01:03:13,110 --> 01:03:16,160
management side, and I
thought that this time they
1334
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,020
were losing track of what
Lennox's career was about.
1335
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:20,170
Being heavyweight
champion of the world,
1336
01:03:20,170 --> 01:03:23,020
they were now looking
more at commercial sides.
1337
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:24,210
We were gonna fight
in South Africa.
1338
01:03:24,210 --> 01:03:28,040
Next thing I know, Lennox has
decided to train in Las Vegas,
1339
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,060
because he's in a film
called Ocean's 11.
1340
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:33,190
I was shooting
a movie with Julia
1341
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:36,200
Roberts and George Clooney.
1342
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,120
It was good.
1343
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,020
It was great.
1344
01:03:38,020 --> 01:03:40,210
I was shooting a fight scene.
1345
01:03:40,210 --> 01:03:44,170
I shot my particular
little scene for Ocean's 11
1346
01:03:44,170 --> 01:03:48,220
with Larry Merchant
on one of the days
1347
01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:53,160
that Lennox was there to
shoot with Wladimir Klitschko.
1348
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,120
And we were all
aware that in South
1349
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,180
Africa was a fight
taking place at I
1350
01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:04,180
believe 6,000 feet altitude.
1351
01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:08,130
Hasim Rahman arrived three
weeks before the fight.
1352
01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:09,140
I pleaded with Lennox.
1353
01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:13,150
Lennox turned up I think
seven days before the fight.
1354
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:18,010
Let's go ahead and jump on our
plans, try and get organized.
1355
01:04:18,010 --> 01:04:20,060
We definitely have to get
organized on this, for real.
1356
01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:22,120
We're just off to East
London for a quick stop
1357
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,150
for two to three hours,
and then down to Capetown.
1358
01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:44,140
OK.
1359
01:04:44,140 --> 01:04:48,090
The heart of the whole matter,
it seems to me at this point,
1360
01:04:48,090 --> 01:04:49,170
based on what
everybody's writing
1361
01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:54,170
and how everybody sees this,
is, are you taking him lightly?
1362
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:58,050
To me, the definition of that
comes from one question, OK?
1363
01:04:58,050 --> 01:05:02,050
If you were fighting Mike Tyson
in Johannesburg on this day--
1364
01:05:02,050 --> 01:05:02,200
OK.
1365
01:05:05,090 --> 01:05:08,050
You know, I knew that the
altitude might be a problem,
1366
01:05:08,050 --> 01:05:11,040
so I came over in time,
so I would feel like I
1367
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,140
would overcome that obstacle.
1368
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:16,160
I'm sure you're
confident of Lennox
1369
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,080
winning on Sunday morning.
1370
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,180
What happens next?
1371
01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:21,050
What's the scenario with Tyson?
1372
01:05:21,050 --> 01:05:23,040
Tyson is not an issue
until after the Rahman fight,
1373
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,050
so we will not discuss
Tyson, but the priority
1374
01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:27,020
is to win the title.
1375
01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:29,140
Lennox, I've got to
ask you this question.
1376
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:31,220
With the whole fight
public calling out for what
1377
01:05:31,220 --> 01:05:33,090
could possibly be
one of the biggest
1378
01:05:33,090 --> 01:05:36,180
fights in history, Tyson versus
Lewis, how do you stay focused?
1379
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:41,160
How do you stay focused
on Hasim Rahman?
1380
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,060
Well, what people
don't know, Lennox Lewis
1381
01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:45,010
is a true competitor, you know?
1382
01:05:45,010 --> 01:05:48,040
It doesn't matter if you say
let's run down the street.
1383
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,080
I have to be first.
1384
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,140
Ow!
1385
01:05:56,140 --> 01:05:58,230
Perfect.
1386
01:05:58,230 --> 01:06:02,140
In this situation, Hasim
Rahman is in front of me,
1387
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:05,000
and he's an opponent, and
he's trying to get my titles,
1388
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,010
and I'm not gonna allow that.
1389
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,050
Lennox Lewis like a big cat.
1390
01:06:26,050 --> 01:06:30,030
Rahman, jab, jab, jab, jab.
1391
01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:34,010
Chases Lewis across the ring.
1392
01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:36,120
With a thunderbolt
from the right hand!
1393
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,210
We got a brand new
heavyweight champion,
1394
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:50,090
and he's from the United States.
1395
01:06:50,090 --> 01:06:55,180
When we lost to Hasim
Rahman in South Africa,
1396
01:06:55,180 --> 01:06:59,050
that was more shock
than anything.
1397
01:06:59,050 --> 01:07:00,200
I just got on a
plane and came home.
1398
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,000
And I knew on that flight
that my days with Lennox
1399
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,110
was numbered.
1400
01:07:04,110 --> 01:07:06,060
And it was numbered.
1401
01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:07,160
And it unfortunately there.
1402
01:07:17,090 --> 01:07:21,230
Lennox Lewis's career
and my success in boxing
1403
01:07:21,230 --> 01:07:24,060
gave me something
else to focus on.
1404
01:07:24,060 --> 01:07:25,190
But eventually I
couldn't keep the lid on
1405
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:29,020
any longer, because I
was destroying myself.
1406
01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:32,050
And I came across a
counselor on the telephone.
1407
01:07:32,050 --> 01:07:33,150
I kept saying to the
counselor, I need you
1408
01:07:33,150 --> 01:07:35,090
to tell me I'm not transgender.
1409
01:07:35,090 --> 01:07:37,220
He said, until you come
to terms with yourself,
1410
01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:39,200
there's nothing anyone
can do to help you.
1411
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:45,120
And I-- it took me ages to
come to terms with myself.
1412
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,130
I attempted suicide.
1413
01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:48,040
About three days,
four days later, I
1414
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,120
told my oldest daughter,
and she turned to me
1415
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,210
and said, "do you know what?
1416
01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:53,080
I'd rather have
my dad in a dress
1417
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,120
than see my dad in a wooden box.
1418
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,010
So whatever help you need
to find that inner peace,
1419
01:08:00,010 --> 01:08:01,020
I'm there for you."
1420
01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:06,130
That really said to
me, do you know what?
1421
01:08:06,130 --> 01:08:08,180
I've got to let Kellie
come out full time
1422
01:08:08,180 --> 01:08:14,210
and be herself,
and put Frank away.
1423
01:08:14,210 --> 01:08:17,170
And Lennox Lewis was
obviously asked the question,
1424
01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,230
and he put out a
fantastic statement.
1425
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:23,210
"If this makes Frank or makes
her happy, then so be it,
1426
01:08:23,210 --> 01:08:25,090
and I'm happy for her."
1427
01:08:25,090 --> 01:08:27,130
Which I think helped
the boxing world
1428
01:08:27,130 --> 01:08:31,180
be a little bit more acceptful
than I expected it to be.
1429
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:34,150
We've had a lot of good
times and a lot of fun,
1430
01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:36,020
so it was a little shock.
1431
01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:40,140
But once again, who
are we to judge anyone?
1432
01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:47,090
And Lennox once again, he
took the first step to say,
1433
01:08:47,090 --> 01:08:52,110
"do what you gotta do, Kellie,
and I accept you for Kellie."
1434
01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:56,190
And that helped me to
accept Kellie for Kellie.
1435
01:08:56,190 --> 01:09:01,170
He showed what a
compassionate and understanding
1436
01:09:01,170 --> 01:09:03,200
human being he was.
1437
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,190
As Frank struggled
with his gender identity,
1438
01:09:06,190 --> 01:09:08,160
Lennox coped with
his loss to Rahman
1439
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,090
by meeting another
one of his heroes,
1440
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:15,200
Nelson Mandela, who offered sage
advice on overcoming adversity.
1441
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:24,040
It is the nature of sport
that you will have triumphs
1442
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,110
and you will have adversities.
1443
01:09:26,110 --> 01:09:31,210
Legends like Joe Lewis, as you
know, people like Muhammad Ali
1444
01:09:31,210 --> 01:09:34,190
have also had a similar fate.
1445
01:09:34,190 --> 01:09:38,210
But he came back twice
and won the title.
1446
01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:44,150
And I say to Lennox, he must
not wonder at all if he trains
1447
01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:48,170
properly and he uses the
advantage that he has,
1448
01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:50,000
that left jab of his.
1449
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,050
I didn't know that he's
been watching me all this time
1450
01:09:57,050 --> 01:09:58,200
and studying me.
1451
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,090
And this is Nelson Mandela.
1452
01:10:00,090 --> 01:10:02,060
So that was a
great thing for me,
1453
01:10:02,060 --> 01:10:04,110
just to even know that, wow,
this guy's been watching me,
1454
01:10:04,110 --> 01:10:06,210
studying me, knows how I
box, and he can tell me
1455
01:10:06,210 --> 01:10:09,090
that I'm gonna go in there and
win the next time I go in there
1456
01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:11,140
and fight.
1457
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:16,100
We spoke earlier about the
first time I met Lennox Lewis.
1458
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:18,210
And in that very
first meeting, I
1459
01:10:18,210 --> 01:10:22,000
remember being
struck by how cool
1460
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,120
he was, how unaffected he
was by the significance
1461
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,200
of that occasion.
1462
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,030
The Lennox Lewis that I met
that day before the Ruddock
1463
01:10:30,030 --> 01:10:31,120
was the same guy who
did the interview
1464
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:36,060
with Larry Merchant following
the loss to Hasim Rahman.
1465
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:39,230
Lennox, when all
is said and done,
1466
01:10:39,230 --> 01:10:42,060
did you take him too lightly?
1467
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:43,150
No, not really.
1468
01:10:43,150 --> 01:10:45,020
This is what happens
in heavyweight boxing.
1469
01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:46,190
You get caught with a
good shot, you don't beat
1470
01:10:46,190 --> 01:10:48,110
the count, they stop the fight.
1471
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:49,010
Simple as that.
1472
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:50,160
But there's always a next time.
1473
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,190
You know what I mean?
1474
01:10:51,190 --> 01:10:56,090
I can understand how easy it
was for him to not necessarily
1475
01:10:56,090 --> 01:10:58,040
dismiss what happened
in Johannesburg
1476
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,070
but to understand it,
to look at himself
1477
01:11:00,070 --> 01:11:03,140
through a certain filter
and say, OK, I did that.
1478
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:06,070
I created the
circumstances for that.
1479
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:09,210
I must learn a lesson from it.
1480
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:14,210
And fortunately, I'm big
enough and important enough
1481
01:11:14,210 --> 01:11:17,050
that I'll get the
chance at the rematch.
1482
01:11:19,170 --> 01:11:22,080
I've got the mountains
to my back in Africa, son.
1483
01:11:31,050 --> 01:11:31,200
What do you say?
1484
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,100
Is it time for the rematch?
1485
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,140
In less than four
months, I'll be ready.
1486
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:37,140
I'll be ready.
1487
01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:50,170
For most fighters,
and particularly for big
1488
01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:55,150
heavyweights, once a guy
has eliminated you with one
1489
01:11:55,150 --> 01:11:59,080
colossal shot, it's
very difficult to regain
1490
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,170
the confidence, the
wherewithal, the self-possession
1491
01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:04,190
to believe that you're gonna go
in and knock him out instead.
1492
01:12:08,060 --> 01:12:10,060
What do we do
with these rare instances
1493
01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:13,150
when the chance for
redemption is upon us?
1494
01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:16,130
The Rahman rematch was
one of those moments,
1495
01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:19,230
but it was about more
than just redemption.
1496
01:12:19,230 --> 01:12:22,040
The outcome would determine
whether Lennox would have
1497
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,060
a chance to cement his legacy
in one of the biggest fights
1498
01:12:26,060 --> 01:12:29,040
in the history of the sport.
1499
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,100
Or leave behind a
trail of questions
1500
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,050
about what could have been.
1501
01:12:37,050 --> 01:12:39,120
There have been times where
he's just been sort of painting
1502
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,070
his opponent and moving
away at the same time,
1503
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:47,120
but he's throwing some
hard left hands tonight.
1504
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,150
Here some jabs.
1505
01:12:49,150 --> 01:12:52,150
That is one stiff jab.
1506
01:12:52,150 --> 01:12:58,110
Perhaps Rahman got under
Lewis's skin with the taunting,
1507
01:12:58,110 --> 01:13:01,130
but Lewis got under
his skin with a punch.
1508
01:13:01,130 --> 01:13:05,070
He seems for
the moment to have
1509
01:13:05,070 --> 01:13:07,090
nullified Rahman's righthand.
1510
01:13:07,090 --> 01:13:09,190
Ooh!
1511
01:13:09,190 --> 01:13:10,190
It's over.
1512
01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:12,170
Lennox Lewis!
1513
01:13:12,170 --> 01:13:17,010
That may turn out to be
Lennox Lewis's most respected
1514
01:13:17,010 --> 01:13:19,110
performance ever in the ring.
1515
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:21,120
Isn't that something?
1516
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,020
When he came back and won his
title back from Hasim Rahman,
1517
01:13:26,020 --> 01:13:27,200
that was a really good comeback.
1518
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,160
He knocked him
out in four rounds.
1519
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,070
To me, that was priceless.
1520
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:34,220
The first thought that
goes through my mind,
1521
01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:36,010
getting ahead of the game.
1522
01:13:36,010 --> 01:13:37,030
Listen to the
crowd as they watch
1523
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:40,050
that, is that when
Mike Tyson sees that,
1524
01:13:40,050 --> 01:13:43,090
he might not want to
fight Lennox Lewis.
1525
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:44,160
Having
lost and regained
1526
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,030
his titles in the
same calendar year,
1527
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:49,030
Lennox was number one again.
1528
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:55,060
But there was still this
nagging 5'11225 pound itch.
1529
01:13:55,060 --> 01:13:58,130
There was still Mike Tyson.
1530
01:13:58,130 --> 01:14:01,040
Something crossed Cus
D'Amato said when we were
1531
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,010
sparring, "Mike, don't do that.
1532
01:14:04,010 --> 01:14:06,130
You're gonna fight
this guy someday."
1533
01:14:06,130 --> 01:14:08,220
Exact words Cus D'Amato said.
1534
01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:11,200
So I was thinking, is
this ever gonna happen?
1535
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,060
And you know, it happened.
1536
01:14:15,220 --> 01:14:16,160
Pans back up.
1537
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,060
There you go.
1538
01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:17,220
Right back.
1539
01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:18,120
There you go.
1540
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,220
Good fighting.
1541
01:14:19,220 --> 01:14:21,150
I'm trying to get that
combination punch in there.
1542
01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:22,080
You did a lot of--
1543
01:14:26,020 --> 01:14:30,070
I came across as the
villain, the bad man,
1544
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:32,040
which I didn't mind.
1545
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,170
I don't take it personally.
1546
01:14:33,170 --> 01:14:35,070
I like getting
under people's skin.
1547
01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:36,180
Defense is impregnable.
1548
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:37,180
And I'm just ferocious.
1549
01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:38,140
I want your heart.
1550
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:40,170
I wanna eat his children.
1551
01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:42,110
He said to some
fighter, was it you,
1552
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:44,120
that he wanted to
eat their children?
1553
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,050
Yeah, I was really
disappointed when he said that,
1554
01:14:47,050 --> 01:14:52,220
but hopefully when we fight,
he's a vegetarian at that time.
1555
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,040
This is like in one sense
an ultimate match-up
1556
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,160
between good versus evil.
1557
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,210
I look at myself as the good.
1558
01:15:01,210 --> 01:15:02,200
I look at him at evil.
1559
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,190
From the moment
we got together
1560
01:15:04,190 --> 01:15:08,000
for the press conference,
there was so much tension.
1561
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,000
And I remember when
we got to New York
1562
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,220
the night before
the press conference
1563
01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:14,180
and he said, "if Mike
makes one move at me,
1564
01:15:14,180 --> 01:15:17,070
forget all the money.
1565
01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:18,210
I'm not backing down from him.
1566
01:15:18,210 --> 01:15:21,220
I'm not backing up from him."
1567
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:24,020
All of a sudden,
I seen him take
1568
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:25,160
his hat off and throw
it on the ground
1569
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,010
and start marching towards me.
1570
01:15:30,020 --> 01:15:31,150
Boom, I was on it.
1571
01:15:31,150 --> 01:15:33,160
The first three
punches were mine,
1572
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,030
and the first bite was his.
1573
01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:39,110
You're scared now, you ho.
1574
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:41,110
You're scared like a
little white ..
1575
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:43,000
Right then I knew,
and Lennox knew,
1576
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,170
we was gonna beat Mike Tyson.
1577
01:15:44,170 --> 01:15:49,070
So that was small little
things that play a big part
1578
01:15:49,070 --> 01:15:50,190
of that psychological.
1579
01:15:50,190 --> 01:15:52,100
Because if you
remember, Mike was
1580
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:57,100
always psychologically beating
guys before the fight happened.
1581
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,100
You see what I'm saying?
1582
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:00,020
So it flipped a
little right there.
1583
01:16:00,020 --> 01:16:04,050
I remember general sports
reporters would literally
1584
01:16:04,050 --> 01:16:07,120
giggle when I would tell
them that Lennox Lewis had
1585
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,100
enormous advantages over Mike
Tyson, and it was hard for me
1586
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:13,090
to see how Tyson could ever
possibly overcome them.
1587
01:16:13,090 --> 01:16:16,230
And because their general
attitude was, you know,
1588
01:16:16,230 --> 01:16:20,040
Lennox Lewis is an English
guy who drinks tea,
1589
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,130
and Mike Tyson is Mike
Tyson, so obviously
1590
01:16:23,130 --> 01:16:24,210
you're out of your mind, Jim.
1591
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:26,180
You don't know what
you're talking about.
1592
01:16:26,180 --> 01:16:28,230
This is clearly going
to be a one sided
1593
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:30,130
wipe-out in Tyson's favor.
1594
01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:33,020
That was what they thought
was still happening
1595
01:16:33,020 --> 01:16:35,030
in every Mike Tyson fight.
1596
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:35,180
This is war.
1597
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:36,200
We ain't come to play.
1598
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,180
We ain't come to
dance with Elvis.
1599
01:16:39,180 --> 01:16:41,170
We come here to
knock Mike Tyson out.
1600
01:17:01,210 --> 01:17:04,130
Finally, 19
years after sparring
1601
01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:08,010
in the Catskills, the time
had come for these two titans
1602
01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:11,100
to face each other in
one of boxing history's
1603
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,030
most anticipated match-ups.
1604
01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:18,110
Too big, too strong, baby.
1605
01:17:18,110 --> 01:17:19,200
Trying to tell you.
1606
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,010
Too big, too strong.
1607
01:17:22,010 --> 01:17:23,190
A member of
the opponent's team
1608
01:17:23,190 --> 01:17:26,010
is allowed in the dressing
room before the fight
1609
01:17:26,010 --> 01:17:29,190
to make sure that the gloves
are put on within the rules.
1610
01:17:29,190 --> 01:17:33,140
No extra padding, no rough edges
at the seams of the leather.
1611
01:17:33,140 --> 01:17:36,220
When they are satisfied,
they sign the gloves.
1612
01:17:36,220 --> 01:17:40,000
This is usually a
straightforward process,
1613
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,070
but this night was different.
1614
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:45,050
Come on, Lennox.
1615
01:17:45,050 --> 01:17:47,090
Let him sign, then
get out of your hair.
1616
01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:57,040
One for all!
1617
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,080
All for one!
1618
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,010
Let's go, let's go!
1619
01:18:00,010 --> 01:18:02,150
As the challenger
for the crown,
1620
01:18:02,150 --> 01:18:04,150
Mike Tyson will walk out first.
1621
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,050
This is the fucking
shit I've been talking about.
1622
01:18:11,050 --> 01:18:13,090
And here comes Iron Mike.
1623
01:18:13,090 --> 01:18:16,030
You think
it's a fucking game?
1624
01:18:16,030 --> 01:18:16,180
Come on!
1625
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,000
The fighters will
now touch gloves
1626
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,120
in the center of the ring.
1627
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Come on, man.
1628
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,080
Come on, man.
1629
01:19:22,060 --> 01:19:24,090
And here comes Lennox Lewis.
1630
01:19:27,010 --> 01:19:30,000
The accompanying
music, a tribute
1631
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,010
to Lewis's Jamaican heritage.
1632
01:19:33,010 --> 01:19:35,150
He is really a man of
three countries, Jamaica,
1633
01:19:35,150 --> 01:19:37,060
Canada, and Great Britain.
1634
01:19:37,060 --> 01:19:38,230
But not the US, so
they're not gonna give
1635
01:19:38,230 --> 01:19:40,080
him too many applause here.
1636
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,110
If they didn't like it
yesterday, you're no good.
1637
01:19:49,090 --> 01:19:53,120
So Emanuel Steward
goes in first.
1638
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,220
And Lennox Lewis steps
between the ropes.
1639
01:20:01,070 --> 01:20:03,160
These two great
heavyweights must now step
1640
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,200
forward when the bell rings.
1641
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,160
Only one will be destiny's hero.
1642
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,010
Only one will pass from
heavyweight greatness
1643
01:20:14,010 --> 01:20:15,090
to heavyweight legend.
1644
01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:22,020
Let's get ready to rumble!
1645
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:35,050
Well, the jab was
a pretty stiff jab.
1646
01:20:35,050 --> 01:20:36,100
David Tua made the same mistake.
1647
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:37,190
Mike's supposed to
work on the underjabs.
1648
01:20:37,190 --> 01:20:40,040
The jabs don't
even have to land.
1649
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,030
He's gotta hit him--
1650
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:44,010
--hit by Lewis.
1651
01:20:44,010 --> 01:20:46,120
That was big.
1652
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Boy, Tyson's got a good chin.
1653
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:52,030
Mike Tyson is being dictated
to by craft, technique,
1654
01:20:52,030 --> 01:20:53,150
professional skill.
1655
01:20:53,150 --> 01:20:56,110
That's what Lewis has
in addition to his size.
1656
01:20:59,090 --> 01:21:01,200
He certainly demonstrated some
of the very best of it tonight.
1657
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,060
Hugh right hands.
1658
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:07,190
Tyson gets in an uppercut.
1659
01:21:07,190 --> 01:21:10,230
Shades of Tokyo and the one
time he got to Buster Douglas
1660
01:21:10,230 --> 01:21:12,100
in the end of the eight round.
1661
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:17,220
And that's gonna be perhaps
the end of the fight.
1662
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:20,220
It'll take some courage for
Mike to get up from the shot.
1663
01:21:20,220 --> 01:21:23,100
Eight, nine!
1664
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100
He's out.
1665
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,210
Lennox Lewis knocks
out Mike Tyson
1666
01:21:26,210 --> 01:21:29,130
and banishes him from
the upper stratosphere
1667
01:21:29,130 --> 01:21:31,090
of the heavyweight division.
1668
01:21:31,090 --> 01:21:34,150
Lennox Lewis, world junior
champion, Olympic gold
1669
01:21:34,150 --> 01:21:37,050
medalist, three-time
heavyweight champion,
1670
01:21:37,050 --> 01:21:39,070
knock-out conqueror
of Mike Tyson,
1671
01:21:39,070 --> 01:21:40,080
what else could he prove?
1672
01:21:44,220 --> 01:21:47,080
And over the years,
I studied Lennox Lewis.
1673
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,150
He was if not the most important
certainly one of the most
1674
01:21:50,150 --> 01:21:53,220
important fighters I had
covered to that point
1675
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:55,050
in my boxing career.
1676
01:21:55,050 --> 01:22:00,110
And I came to the conclusion
that having escaped
1677
01:22:00,110 --> 01:22:05,100
the nightmare of his childhood,
having escaped circumstances
1678
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:07,080
under which he was taken
away from his mother,
1679
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,090
he had run afoul of
difficult circumstances
1680
01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:15,120
on the streets in Canada and
could have destroyed his life
1681
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,110
with a mistake at any moment
up there, and eventually ran
1682
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:24,230
into a man Arnie Boehm, who
unlike the people who took Mike
1683
01:22:24,230 --> 01:22:30,010
Tyson in and from the beginning
saw him as a commodity
1684
01:22:30,010 --> 01:22:33,150
to exploit, this
man in Canada who
1685
01:22:33,150 --> 01:22:37,220
found Lennox Lewis saw
him as a valuable person
1686
01:22:37,220 --> 01:22:40,180
to be supported and redeemed.
1687
01:22:40,180 --> 01:22:44,230
And because of the difference
in those two mindsets
1688
01:22:44,230 --> 01:22:47,010
and the difference in
those two processes,
1689
01:22:47,010 --> 01:22:49,130
you get the difference
in those two lives.
1690
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:54,230
You get the Lennox Lewis, who
was capable of brushing aside
1691
01:22:54,230 --> 01:22:59,020
almost any setback and
continuing to calmly focus
1692
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:02,170
on his belief in himself, and
his belief in where ultimately
1693
01:23:02,170 --> 01:23:07,050
he could get to, and the
deeply insecure Mike Tyson,
1694
01:23:07,050 --> 01:23:09,110
who always knew
that he was there
1695
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:11,060
to serve someone else's agenda.
1696
01:23:11,060 --> 01:23:14,080
Hey, I love you, Mike.
1697
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,100
You love me, Mike?
1698
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:16,080
Love you.
1699
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,010
All right.
1700
01:23:17,010 --> 01:23:20,210
If you piece together those
two threads over a long period
1701
01:23:20,210 --> 01:23:22,100
of time, you can see the
difference in the two
1702
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:26,000
human beings, and you get
to the point of the post
1703
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,170
fight interview in Memphis.
1704
01:23:27,170 --> 01:23:30,060
You said you had to win
this fight to clean up boxing.
1705
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:31,200
Do you feel you've
accomplished that?
1706
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,020
I went out there and showed
them I'm a pugilist specialist.
1707
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:35,160
I can adapt to any style.
1708
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,190
And you know, he showed me
one style that a lot of people
1709
01:23:37,190 --> 01:23:39,090
didn't think I was gonna
be able to deal with,
1710
01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:41,010
but I was able to deal with it.
1711
01:23:41,010 --> 01:23:42,230
A lot of people thought he was
gonna get away from my jab,
1712
01:23:42,230 --> 01:23:44,200
but nobody gets
away from my job.
1713
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,090
Mike, are you sorry this fight
didn't take place years ago?
1714
01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:48,090
It wasn't meant to be.
1715
01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:51,200
I've known Lennox since
he was 16, 15 years old.
1716
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,180
I have mad respect.
1717
01:23:52,180 --> 01:23:55,050
Everything I said
was in proposition
1718
01:23:55,050 --> 01:23:56,100
for promoting the fight.
1719
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,050
He knows I love
him and his mother.
1720
01:23:58,050 --> 01:24:00,070
And I know that he thinks
I don't have respect
1721
01:24:00,070 --> 01:24:03,010
and love him, he's crazy.
1722
01:24:03,010 --> 01:24:07,020
Although Lennox
only had one fight in 2002,
1723
01:24:07,020 --> 01:24:10,080
beating Tyson was enough
to keep him at number one.
1724
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,100
You've proven everything.
1725
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,230
You've beaten everybody.
1726
01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:14,170
You've avenged the
losses you've had,
1727
01:24:14,170 --> 01:24:16,170
and you've conquered
the man who you
1728
01:24:16,170 --> 01:24:17,210
said would make your legacy.
1729
01:24:17,210 --> 01:24:18,150
What now?
1730
01:24:18,150 --> 01:24:21,100
Well, you know, I'm gonna
take it one day at a time,
1731
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:22,130
see what happens after this.
1732
01:24:28,180 --> 01:24:31,140
Lennox Lewis, y'all!
1733
01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:33,090
This is the woman that I love.
1734
01:24:33,090 --> 01:24:34,140
He's all right.
1735
01:24:34,140 --> 01:24:38,210
And she has given birth to
this universal champion that
1736
01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:41,050
will reign all over the world.
1737
01:24:41,050 --> 01:24:41,200
I love the brother.
1738
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:47,200
Time goes
by and people change.
1739
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,100
Lennox started to find
that other things in life
1740
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,100
appealed to him.
1741
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:53,210
And he phones me and
told me that he find--
1742
01:24:53,210 --> 01:24:56,170
he met a girl, and that
her name was Violet.
1743
01:24:56,170 --> 01:25:00,110
I ran into him at a
restaurant in New York City.
1744
01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:05,070
I said, wow, for a boxer
he's very handsome.
1745
01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:09,050
When I met Lennox and I
asked him, where do you live?
1746
01:25:09,050 --> 01:25:11,190
He says, I live on the planet.
1747
01:25:11,190 --> 01:25:12,220
And then he explained.
1748
01:25:12,220 --> 01:25:17,010
He says, "well, I was born in
England, I grew up in Canada,
1749
01:25:17,010 --> 01:25:19,000
and my parents are Jamaican.
1750
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,150
But I identify with the world."
1751
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:24,090
So I found him to be
quite introspective,
1752
01:25:24,090 --> 01:25:27,090
and it led to further
conversations.
1753
01:25:27,090 --> 01:25:31,060
On the way out, I walked
out of the restaurant.
1754
01:25:31,060 --> 01:25:34,100
Halfway to the train
station, I turned around
1755
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:38,220
and went back to the restaurant
and interrupted his dinner.
1756
01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:40,180
And I just remember
telling him, "I
1757
01:25:40,180 --> 01:25:42,080
really appreciate
how you represent us,
1758
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,110
because you do
represent us well."
1759
01:25:44,110 --> 01:25:46,020
And I walked out and left.
1760
01:25:46,020 --> 01:25:50,160
Two years later, to be exact,
we met again in Jamaica.
1761
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,120
When that desire
is no longer there
1762
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,130
to get up when
it's cold outside,
1763
01:25:57,130 --> 01:26:01,010
when it's snowing outside, and
it's nice and warm in your bed
1764
01:26:01,010 --> 01:26:04,220
with silk sheets and you have
your fiancee, your future wife
1765
01:26:04,220 --> 01:26:09,180
with you, and you don't have
that desire to get up anymore,
1766
01:26:09,180 --> 01:26:12,110
that's when it's
actually time to retire.
1767
01:26:12,110 --> 01:26:17,030
But he wanted to show
that he was the best.
1768
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:19,050
For the last
fight of his career,
1769
01:26:19,050 --> 01:26:22,010
Lennox took on Ukrainian
Vitali Klitschko,
1770
01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:24,210
and successfully defended
his undisputed title
1771
01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:27,110
to the very end.
1772
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:30,010
Now, as he entered
retirement, Lennox
1773
01:26:30,010 --> 01:26:32,070
finally had a partner
to help balance
1774
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:35,220
his life outside of the ring.
1775
01:26:35,220 --> 01:26:40,040
I think that he
achieved his goals.
1776
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,090
He achieved his
legacy to be a world
1777
01:26:42,090 --> 01:26:49,090
champion and the
undisputed world champion.
1778
01:26:49,090 --> 01:26:52,180
Well, he's one of three
to retire with the title.
1779
01:26:52,180 --> 01:26:53,160
Not got beat.
1780
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,060
Retired with the title, and
he went out on his own terms.
1781
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:59,100
I think he would have beat
every heavyweight champion.
1782
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:03,060
I saw most all of them fighting
and training in the camps.
1783
01:27:03,060 --> 01:27:06,030
Ali and Joe Frazier,
Sonny Liston,
1784
01:27:06,030 --> 01:27:07,170
I've been with all of them.
1785
01:27:07,170 --> 01:27:08,080
Larry Holmes.
1786
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,110
Lennox Lewis would
have beat all of them.
1787
01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:13,120
He would definitely
have himself established
1788
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,000
as maybe the greatest
heavyweight boxer now.
1789
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,150
When he told me
that Violet, that they
1790
01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:23,000
were gonna have their first kid,
something bigger was coming.
1791
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,070
Made me think of that moment
when we were kids on the bus,
1792
01:27:27,070 --> 01:27:30,060
and he said, "there's
bigger things to come, man."
1793
01:27:30,060 --> 01:27:32,200
So when he was retiring, that's
what was going through my head.
1794
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,220
He retired in February,
and our son was born in June.
1795
01:27:37,220 --> 01:27:43,080
I was born in New York,
and I lived in Jamaica
1796
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,080
practically my whole life.
1797
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,130
His game plan
was always focus on
1798
01:27:48,130 --> 01:27:51,000
boxing, and when
that is finished,
1799
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,190
then I focus on my
family, my children,
1800
01:27:52,190 --> 01:27:55,110
and give them the things
that I didn't have,
1801
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:58,040
which was mainly the stability
of having a mom and a dad.
1802
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,160
He really wanted
to break the cycle
1803
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,160
of what he had been through.
1804
01:28:06,130 --> 01:28:08,100
In life, nothing is
really given to you.
1805
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:11,170
You have to earn it.
1806
01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:14,000
From my last daughter,
we got the news
1807
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,090
that she's got trisomy-19.
1808
01:28:16,090 --> 01:28:21,010
I didn't realize how
extreme it was until we got
1809
01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:22,230
all the information about it.
1810
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:26,220
Most kids with her
condition don't survive,
1811
01:28:26,220 --> 01:28:27,200
but she's strong.
1812
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,130
She's really strong.
1813
01:28:29,130 --> 01:28:30,210
She's a fighter.
1814
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:32,210
It's still difficult,
because it's
1815
01:28:32,210 --> 01:28:40,150
like we know kids that have this
condition don't last that long.
1816
01:28:40,150 --> 01:28:42,130
It's one day at a time.
1817
01:28:42,130 --> 01:28:43,160
OK, OK.
1818
01:28:47,180 --> 01:28:52,050
"Float like a butterfly,
sting like a bee."
1819
01:28:52,050 --> 01:28:53,180
Who knows what that is?
1820
01:28:53,180 --> 01:28:55,080
Building
upon the humanity
1821
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,150
of those who had taught him
how to box, Lennox focused
1822
01:28:58,150 --> 01:29:00,210
on charities that would
help lift young people out
1823
01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:04,040
of their trouble by teaching
them to overcome adversities
1824
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,160
through the sport of boxing.
1825
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,190
You're sticking your chin out.
1826
01:29:06,190 --> 01:29:08,080
You've got to hide that.
1827
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,130
You've got to hide your chin.
1828
01:29:09,130 --> 01:29:12,150
You wanna protect it as
well with your hands.
1829
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:13,230
At least one of them.
1830
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:15,190
He is the epitome
of what a world
1831
01:29:15,190 --> 01:29:17,020
champion is supposed to be.
1832
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,190
Of his
41 winning bouts,
1833
01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:26,130
Lennox's reign with the
WBC belt lasted 16 fights.
1834
01:29:31,230 --> 01:29:35,000
Out of the ring,
Lennox kept his mother,
1835
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,060
brother, and childhood friends
like Courtney and Egerton
1836
01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:40,000
around him.
1837
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,080
A close-knit family team
that kept him grounded.
1838
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,120
But he also gathered a team
of experts from Frank Maloney
1839
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,180
and Harold Knight to one of
the greatest coaches in boxing
1840
01:29:50,180 --> 01:29:53,130
history, Emanuel
Steward, who helped
1841
01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:57,140
him climb to the mountaintop.
1842
01:29:57,140 --> 01:30:00,100
He retired as one of only
three heavyweight champions
1843
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:02,070
in the history of
the sport to have
1844
01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:05,050
beaten every man he
faced alongside Rocky
1845
01:30:05,050 --> 01:30:08,040
Marciano and Muhammad Ali.
1846
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,090
Who are these men we call
heavyweight champions?
1847
01:30:12,090 --> 01:30:14,030
Why do we look up to them?
1848
01:30:14,030 --> 01:30:16,180
Because they embody all
that's heroic and just?
1849
01:30:19,190 --> 01:30:22,060
Or is it that we
can not look away?
1850
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,030
Who are the real champions?
1851
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,160
Emancipate yourselves
from mental slavery.
1852
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:52,070
None but ourselves
can free our mind.
1853
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:54,230
Oh, I've no fear
for atomic energy.
1854
01:30:54,230 --> 01:30:57,210
Muhammad Ali, he picked
us before he passed
1855
01:30:57,210 --> 01:31:03,020
to say he wants these two guys,
the guys that fought together,
1856
01:31:03,020 --> 01:31:09,120
were foes, put them together,
and make them love each other,
1857
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,200
and put me to my resting place.
1858
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,090
When me and Lennox
were pallbearers
1859
01:31:13,090 --> 01:31:18,000
for Muhammad Ali's funeral, that
was just a great honor for me.
1860
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,150
Does anybody know
who Muhammad Ali is?
1861
01:31:21,150 --> 01:31:23,140
Yeah.
1862
01:31:30,010 --> 01:31:32,010
We sparred when we were kids.
1863
01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:33,210
We became very good friends.
1864
01:31:33,210 --> 01:31:35,210
And when we were young,
Lennox was real tall.
1865
01:31:35,210 --> 01:31:38,000
He was 6'5 when he
was probably 16.
1866
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,100
And remember when
you were dancing,
1867
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,170
like how you would dance like?
1868
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:46,230
He still dances like that.
1869
01:31:46,230 --> 01:31:49,100
I do, too, now.
1870
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:53,170
But listen, but
really why it was
1871
01:31:53,170 --> 01:31:57,210
close and meant a lot to me,
because Cus was alive then.
1872
01:31:57,210 --> 01:32:00,050
Arnie was alive then, right?
1873
01:32:00,050 --> 01:32:01,160
No one knew us.
1874
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,140
You know, we were just
two guys coming up.
1875
01:32:03,140 --> 01:32:04,120
And then the '80--
1876
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,210
what with the '84 Olympics.
1877
01:32:05,210 --> 01:32:08,020
We lost in '84 in Los Angeles.
1878
01:32:08,020 --> 01:32:09,040
Do you remember when we lost?
1879
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,170
We were just walking
around like two schmucks?
1880
01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:11,070
Shit!
1881
01:32:11,070 --> 01:32:12,150
We went different
ways, but yet
1882
01:32:12,150 --> 01:32:15,010
we ended up in the same place.
1883
01:32:15,010 --> 01:32:18,090
So the friendship, I
believe, was always there.
1884
01:32:18,090 --> 01:32:21,140
And as a result, just
culminated to "we're
1885
01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:23,020
back where we started."
1886
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,180
Look what we did
and we overcame, man?
1887
01:32:24,180 --> 01:32:26,190
That's just the biggest--
1888
01:32:26,190 --> 01:32:28,080
that's the biggest
accomplishment
1889
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,170
that we didn't become
victims to our environments.
1890
01:32:35,010 --> 01:32:40,100
Because we were statistics
that became specialists.
1891
01:32:40,100 --> 01:32:42,220
And that's why
we're here, really.
1892
01:32:42,220 --> 01:32:47,210
Brother, please, just
come up here, please.
1893
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,080
Let me tell you the
story about Lennox Lewis.
1894
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,180
Undefeated, every
chance he never blew it.
1895
01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:02,200
Never lost, because he's
the best to ever do it.
1896
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,180
Everyone who stepped in
the ring honestly knew it.
1897
01:33:05,180 --> 01:33:08,190
Undefeated gold medalist
against the best of them.
1898
01:33:08,190 --> 01:33:10,200
He knew his path was
never stressing him.
1899
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,210
If you was smart, you
wouldn't mess with him.
1900
01:33:12,210 --> 01:33:16,160
Also a leader, a teacher,
you could progress with him.
1901
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,140
Mike Tyson couldn't do it.
1902
01:33:18,140 --> 01:33:20,110
Holyfield couldn't prove it.
1903
01:33:20,110 --> 01:33:24,030
People know I was the last true
champion at the boxing ring,
1904
01:33:24,030 --> 01:33:25,070
and I'm stepping in.
1905
01:33:25,070 --> 01:33:28,010
Look, put down the guns,
pick up the gloves.
1906
01:33:28,010 --> 01:33:30,080
Going through so much
pain, we need some gloves.
1907
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,110
Gotta show the youth
there is a better way,
1908
01:33:32,110 --> 01:33:35,090
so we can take the
time to educate.
1909
01:33:35,090 --> 01:33:37,200
And put down the guns,
pick up the gloves.
1910
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,120
Going through so much
pain, we need some love.
1911
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,080
Gotta show the youth
there is a better way,
1912
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,160
so we can take the
time to educate.
1913
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,140
Now it's for the youth,
stay in the right direction.
1914
01:33:47,140 --> 01:33:50,120
Be positive, make love
rather than aggression.
1915
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,090
Nelson Mandela
taught us a lesson.
1916
01:33:52,090 --> 01:33:54,230
Went to the safari, let
Lewis under pressure.
1917
01:33:54,230 --> 01:33:57,170
Before he died, Ali crowned him
and called him the greatest.
1918
01:33:57,170 --> 01:33:59,220
When it comes to helping out,
he don't mind doing favors.
1919
01:33:59,220 --> 01:34:02,050
Just like that, with your
mind you can fight back.
1920
01:34:02,050 --> 01:34:04,080
Have to stay on the right track,
get the picture like IMAX.
1921
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,060
The sky's the limit when
you never try to reach it.
1922
01:34:07,060 --> 01:34:09,120
Whatever you put your mind
to, you can achieve it.
1923
01:34:12,130 --> 01:34:14,010
We need to drop
where you're from,
1924
01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:17,110
and just accept that you
are the undisputed king.
1925
01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:18,100
That's just what it is.
1926
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:21,180
So until somebody
comes and changes
1927
01:34:21,180 --> 01:34:24,130
that and breaks that record,
you are still number one.
1928
01:34:27,060 --> 01:34:29,210
Still alive.
1929
01:34:29,210 --> 01:34:30,230
That's awesome.
1930
01:34:30,230 --> 01:34:31,140
That's great.
1931
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:33,000
That's great.
1932
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,170
So not wanting to lose
really helps me win.
1933
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,020
Who is the hardest
puncher you ever faced?
1934
01:34:50,020 --> 01:34:52,100
Fuck.
1935
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:54,030
Probably Lennox Lewis.
1936
01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:55,000
For real?
1937
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:55,140
Yeah.
1938
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:56,230
That motherfucker's
hands was this big.
1939
01:34:56,230 --> 01:34:58,150
One night that motherfucker
grabbed my weed
1940
01:34:58,150 --> 01:35:00,070
and rolled a blunt
with one hand.
1941
01:35:00,070 --> 01:35:02,170
That motherfucker's hand
was this big, one of them.
1942
01:35:02,170 --> 01:35:04,050
Yeah, he's a monster.
1943
01:35:04,050 --> 01:35:06,150
What was it that set
him apart from the others?
1944
01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:08,110
Let Lennox weather the storm?
1945
01:35:08,110 --> 01:35:13,120
Riots that killed 63 people
and injured thousands?
1946
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,080
Yeah, yeah.
1947
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,040
Don King was boxing's
longest running pimp.
1948
01:35:24,010 --> 01:35:25,040
I think you got there.
1949
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:25,190
Gotta take it.
1950
01:35:25,190 --> 01:35:26,090
Here?
1951
01:35:26,090 --> 01:35:27,200
Yeah.
1952
01:35:31,190 --> 01:35:35,110
Some would say, maybe he
didn't want to face Lennox.
1953
01:35:35,110 --> 01:35:37,200
Some would say,
maybe he was afraid
1954
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,170
that Lennox would
kick his ass, just
1955
01:35:39,170 --> 01:35:42,010
like he did in the Olympics.
1956
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:44,170
That was awesome.
1957
01:35:44,170 --> 01:35:46,000
I liked that one.
1958
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,170
I kind of shocked myself
when that shit came out.
1959
01:35:48,170 --> 01:35:49,110
I saw you getting it.
1960
01:35:49,110 --> 01:35:50,090
I saw you getting it.
1961
01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:51,050
You didn't get that?
1962
01:35:51,050 --> 01:35:53,090
What the fuck, Hugh?
1963
01:36:21,180 --> 01:36:23,210
Lennox fucking Lewis,
champion forever.
1964
01:36:23,210 --> 01:36:26,000
Believe it.
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