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What would you do if you were
in the middle of the woods
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I can't hardly even wrap
my mind around
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hello?
The sheer terror
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that she must have felt.
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With nowhere to run
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the helplessness.
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Where are you
gonna run to?
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Nowhere to hide
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that's gotta be one
of the scariest things
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that a person can go
through. One minute,
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you're at peace;
And the next minute,
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your life is
completely in danger.
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And you're
in the presence
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of pure evil?
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Bright, expansive, and lush,
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California's
Jedediah Smith state park
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is over 10,000 acres of pure,
undeveloped paradise.
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The Jedediah Smith campground
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is such a beautiful
and scenic area
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and part of the reason that
it is so appealing to people
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is that you really,
you step back in time
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and you're in a place
that you don't see
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all of the modern conveniences.
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You're isolated, which is
why people go there.
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They go there to be isolated
and to feel alone in the woods.
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Year after year,
its raw beauty and remoteness
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attracts campers
from all over the country.
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And, yet, the park,
and the county that claims it,
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are no stranger to crime.
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We do have homicides
from time to time.
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There have been some in the past
that we've had
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that are very gruesome,
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where body parts
have been removed,
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and so we've had a few real
bad ones, with that respect.
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In 1988,
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Jedediah was a serene a place
a camper could hope for,
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but for young, married couple
Doug and rozina Anderson,
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deciding on a long weekend
in these peaceful woods
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turns out to be
a fateful mistake.
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Married for almost 2 years,
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Doug and rozina live
in lake oswego,
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a quaint suburb outside
of Portland, Oregon.
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So what are you
paintin'?
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Well, these are gonna
be flowers.
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And this --
what kinda flowers?
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Daisies.
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These are daisies.
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Daisies.
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Rozina's gorgeous.
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She had beautiful,
shoulder-length brown hair.
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There wasn't a time when
she wasn't enthusiastic
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and really seeking knowledge
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and educating herself
and trying new things.
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Doug was definitely
the quieter one.
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He was not --
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he liked to have
a good time, too,
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but he wouldn't be like, "
there's one that's trouble.
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There's trouble
comin' this way."
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He was quiet,
but he just adored rozina.
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You could tell.
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I think they were
an awesome match,
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totally the match
made in heaven.
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You know what?
I really like
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this red border
you put on.
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I'm glad you went
with that.
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Yeah, me too.
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You know where that
would look great, though?
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Where?
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Baby's room.
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Well, I mean, you know
what else we would need
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in this baby room
you speak of?
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What's that?
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A baby.
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Well, maybe we'll just
have to work that into
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our vacation schedule.
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Doug and rozina were definitely
planning on having a family.
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They would've been
awesome parents
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and rozina, you know,
having been around
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big families her whole life,
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she was tremendously
prepared to do that
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and she would have
made an awesome mom.
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Speaking of which,
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if we're gonna leave
in the morning,
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we should probably
finish up packing.
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I need to book
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a boat tour reservation.
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All right. Yeah, let me
change out of this
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and I'll get
the rest of our gear.
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This time tomorrow,
it will be you,
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me,
and mother nature.
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Well, that sounds
like heaven to me.
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Did you bring
the fishing Poles?
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Already packed.
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So tomorrow's
the big day?
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-Hey, kip!
-Yeah, leavin'
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first thing in the morning.
-What's the plan?
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We're gonna drive
down and visit
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rozie's aunt down in medford.
-Yeah.
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Drive down the coast,
and spend a couple days
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in Jedediah.
-That sounds great.
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I hear it's beautiful
down there.
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Well, how long you guys goin'?
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We'll probably
only be there --
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I was a neighbor of theirs
for a couple of years.
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I have to get back
to work.
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Across the street,
on Tamara Avenue.
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We knew they were gonna be
on an elongated weekend,
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so we kept care
of each other.
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We took care of each other.
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We'll probably be there
like 5 or 6 days,
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at the most.
I mean, we'd love
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I'm sure you two
will make the most of it.
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Yeah, I think
we'll think of something.
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Hey, listen. Thank you so much
for watching the house.
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Yeah.
Not a problem.
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Listen, you two have fun
and don't you worry.
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I'll chase off
any unwanted riffraff
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that shows up
while you're gone, okay?
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-All right.
-Promise.
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-Thanks a lot.
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Yeah. Enjoy the trip.
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We'll see you
when we get back, kip!
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The next morning,
the excited couple
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makes their final preparations
for their big adventure.
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Hey, did you turn off
the bedroom light?
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Yep. Yeah, everything's
turned off.
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What do you have there?
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Why are you
bringing that?
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Just in case.
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No, you know that
makes me nervous.
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It won't leave
this spot, okay?
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I promise.
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You can never be
too careful.
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Do you need a hand?
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No.
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Okay, let's not let
this spoil our vacation.
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After a stop in medford,
Oregon, to see rozina's aunt,
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they cross the
Oregon-California border
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and head toward
their final destination:
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Jedediah Smith state park.
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Well, this was the first time
they have ever really done
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that long of a trip
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because they were
both working so much.
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They did, you know,
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a lot of outdoor things
when they had time,
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but it was never
as extensive as this trip.
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That afternoon, Doug and rozina
arrive at stout grove,
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a secluded, off-the-beaten-path
hideaway in the park,
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that's surrounded
by majestic redwoods.
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They kind of just
found a place,
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and it's somewhere
I would've chose to park
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if I was going through the same
area on a trip with my family.
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But they were not within
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the Jedediah Smith state park
camping area.
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They'd gone off
to an area that
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was really more
an informal one,
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and I think there's
a great risk there.
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God, it's almost
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unreal.
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Pictures do not
do it justice.
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No cars,
no other campers,
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no noise,
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no interruptions.
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I thought I said
no interruptions.
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I'm gonna check out
the camp.
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Okay.
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Now that they've found
their perfect camping spot,
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rozina and Doug
set about turning it
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into a private retreat
for two.
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Hello?
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Doug?
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Really, rozina?
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Sometimes you just
don't know
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what danger is lurking
around the bend.
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You're back.
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I was starting
to get worried.
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Sorry.
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Everything all right?
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Yeah, no, I'm fine.
It's just --
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I thought I heard
something over there.
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Well, I mean, there is a lot
of wildlife out here.
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Whatever it was probably
wasn't dangerous.
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Unless
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what if it was bigfoot?
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Shut up.
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Don't worry, I'll
protect you if it was.
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I mean, of course,
unless he gets me first.
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You'll protect me?
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-Yeah.
-How about next time,
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you just get the wood.
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You wanna make
a baby first?
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Would you
grab me a water?
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Doug and rozina Anderson
have just set up camp
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in a remote area
of Jedediah Smith state park,
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outside of Crescent city,
California.
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With a few hours
left before sunset,
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the couple decides to head off
on a short hike.
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You ready?
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Yeah.
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So, if we head out now,
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we should have time
to catch dinner later.
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Sounds like a plan.
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Okay.
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-You doin' the cookin'?
-Catching.
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Somebody's confident.
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After they leave,
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a stranger
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enters their campsite.
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All right.
Well, it looks like
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we're about
half a mile away,
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so we should be back
in plenty of time
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before it gets dark.
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Well, let's just stay
here for a little bit.
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Okay.
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Hey.
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Hey.
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Didn't mean
to scare y'all.
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That's okay.
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It's so beautiful.
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I mean the scenery,
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not your wife, pal.-
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I'm just kidding
with you buddy.
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She's a fox, too.
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That's my brother.
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He's the quiet one.
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So, are you guys hunting
anything in particular?
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These things right here?
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They're just
for protection.
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Is that y'all camped
over there by the Van?
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-Yeah.
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Y'all be careful
out here.
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Don't be scared, lady.
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Grab this for me.
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Brr!
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Yeah, you guys
stay safe, too.
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Bye!
-Yeah, we will.
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Okay, that was weird.
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I think they were just having
some fun at our expense.
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-Let's -- let's go.
-Okay.
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Back at camp,
Doug and rozina settle in
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for a romantic evening
by the fire.
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I am so full.
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Agh.
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Full and happy.
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Well, hold on.
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You still have another
course coming.
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What are you
talking about?
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You'll see in a minute.
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Keep your eyes closed, okay?
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What are you doing
over there?
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Just trust me.
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You're really, truly out
in the forest
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and in the beautiful woods,
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but that is also what
makes it such a bad place
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because, if someone approaches
you in a place like that,
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there's literally
no Avenue for escape
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or no means for getting
any sort of help.
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00:16:34,780 --> 00:16:36,080
Promise they're closed?
267
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:39,420
Promise.
-Okay.
268
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,420
Now, you can open them.
269
00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:45,790
Happy birthday.
270
00:16:45,790 --> 00:16:49,260
My.
271
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,400
Thank you.
272
00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,400
I love it.
273
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,970
Make a wish.
274
00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,520
When you go out camping
in the redwoods
275
00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,760
most times, you don't think
276
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,990
you're taking your life
in your hands.
277
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,830
After an idyllic day,
278
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:35,940
Doug and rozina decide
to call it a night.
279
00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:38,370
Sweet dreams.-
280
00:17:46,050 --> 00:17:48,050
I can't imagine that anybody
that would go
281
00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:51,090
to Jedediah Smith park
would in any way feel unsafe.
282
00:17:51,090 --> 00:17:54,150
I think it's one of the safest
places of our county,
283
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,530
and probably the whole state.
284
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,720
To be putting myself
in their shoes,
285
00:17:57,730 --> 00:18:01,170
the last thing I would expect,
if I decided to camp
286
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,860
in the location
where they were,
287
00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:05,270
would be that anybody
would even come by.
288
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,380
It's them by themselves,
very remote,
289
00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:21,680
nobody else probably
nearby them at all.
290
00:18:23,290 --> 00:18:26,100
291
00:18:26,090 --> 00:18:27,090
What's going on?
292
00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:46,050
Doug and rozina Anderson
are camping in a remote area
293
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:52,110
inside California's
Jedediah Smith state park.
294
00:18:52,110 --> 00:18:53,510
But it turns out
295
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,160
they're not alone.
296
00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:08,900
297
00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:11,230
What's going on?
298
00:19:11,230 --> 00:19:12,900
I don't know.
299
00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:13,670
You in there?!
300
00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:20,180
Le-le-Lea-
leave US alone?!
301
00:19:20,180 --> 00:19:21,190
Get outta there!
302
00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:30,530
Griffin:
I think they didn't know what
the person wanted at all.
303
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,750
They didn't wanna come
out of the Van.
304
00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:34,050
That was their safe place.
305
00:19:34,060 --> 00:19:37,600
They may have been hoping that
the person would just go away,
306
00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:38,960
leave them alone.
307
00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:40,990
-Shh.
-Get outta there, now!
308
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,970
No, no,
no, no, no, no,
309
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,100
no, no, no, no.
-Shh.
310
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,300
Or I'm coming in!
311
00:19:46,300 --> 00:19:48,300
They realized that they were
dealing with somebody
312
00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:53,240
that was in just
almost a lunatic rage.
313
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,610
He couldn't be calmed down.
314
00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:58,350
He couldn't be
persuaded to go away.
315
00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:02,090
Shh.
316
00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:14,930
Out!
317
00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:17,000
No, no.
318
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,870
Shh. It's okay, shh.
319
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:20,430
It's okay.
I'll talk to 'im.
320
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:20,480
I'll talk to 'im.
321
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:25,970
All of a sudden, there's a man
with a firearm, threatening you,
322
00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:28,380
and that's gotta be
one of the scariest things
323
00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:31,010
that a person can go through.
324
00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,250
One minute, you're at peace;
325
00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:36,180
and the next minute, your life
is completely in danger.
326
00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:38,750
Get out of the Van.
327
00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:41,220
I-I'm coming.
I'm coming.
328
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,590
-Look at me!
-O-Okay.
329
00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:50,430
There were not campsites
330
00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:54,840
that were immediately
adjacent to them.
331
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,100
There was nobody close enough
332
00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:57,570
that they could've
called for help.
333
00:20:57,570 --> 00:20:59,610
334
00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:04,420
Look, you can have
whatever you want, just,
335
00:21:04,410 --> 00:21:07,350
just leave US alone, please.
336
00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:17,190
Rozie.
337
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:21,160
Honey, can you
hand me my wallet?
338
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,330
Okay.
339
00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:27,700
Hey.
340
00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:28,670
Okay.
341
00:21:28,670 --> 00:21:29,870
Here, it's yours.
342
00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:31,670
Take it.
343
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,090
I don't want none
of that!
344
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,610
Take 'em off.
345
00:21:43,490 --> 00:21:45,530
What?
346
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,490
Please.
-I said take 'em off!
347
00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,490
Your pants!
348
00:21:49,490 --> 00:21:52,130
The reason you have people
strip down naked is
349
00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:54,190
you're taking away
350
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,340
their chances
of having weapons on them.
351
00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:59,770
You're making them
way more vulnerable.
352
00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:06,910
Okay.
353
00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:09,210
Okay.
354
00:22:09,210 --> 00:22:10,140
It's really got to click there
355
00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:12,290
that "something's
going really bad here
356
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,910
'cause he doesn't
want our money.
357
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,790
He doesn't want our stuff.
358
00:22:14,780 --> 00:22:16,550
He's here for something else."
359
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,020
Take your shirt
off, too.
360
00:22:23,730 --> 00:22:24,970
Okay.
361
00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:52,720
No.
362
00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:55,660
Rozie
363
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,170
-i love you, sweetie.
-No, no.
364
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:09,540
365
00:23:09,540 --> 00:23:12,610
No! No, no, no,
no, no, no.
366
00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:21,420
No, no, no, no,
no, no, no.
367
00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:26,050
No, no, no, no,
no, no. No.
368
00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:36,760
You're enjoying a nice
vacation with your husband.
369
00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:39,180
You're camping.
370
00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:41,600
He is now gunned down
371
00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:47,820
in cold blood.
372
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:51,310
Ican't hardly even
373
00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:53,480
wrap my mind around
374
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,150
the sheer terror
375
00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:58,080
that she must have felt,
you know,
376
00:23:58,090 --> 00:24:01,470
realizing that her husband
has just been killed
377
00:24:05,030 --> 00:24:06,530
and she's on her own.
378
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:14,430
No.
379
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,010
And rozina's nightmare
380
00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:19,020
is far from over.
381
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:20,540
382
00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:21,880
Now, take it off.
383
00:24:25,810 --> 00:24:28,420
Please.
384
00:24:28,420 --> 00:24:29,550
Take it off.
385
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:47,970
Take it off.
386
00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:52,970
387
00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:08,260
All of it.
388
00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:11,290
All of it.
389
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,400
That was unbelievable,
390
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,770
unbelievable,
what he did to them.
391
00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:31,180
It wasn't like she was
going to just give in and,
392
00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:33,350
you know, just let him-
393
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:35,120
slaughter her.
394
00:26:01,780 --> 00:26:02,180
Hey!
395
00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:05,810
What do you think
you're doing?!
396
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:06,750
Hey!
397
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,860
She fought and, you know,
tried to save her own life.
398
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:34,920
Hey!
399
00:26:34,910 --> 00:26:37,440
What do you think
you're doing?! Hey!
400
00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:40,720
Alone in the dark,
in the middle of the woods,
401
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,660
rozina Anderson
is face-to-face
402
00:26:42,650 --> 00:26:45,820
with the man who just
murdered her husband.
403
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,200
For whatever reason,
the guy hasn't killed her yet.
404
00:26:50,190 --> 00:26:53,190
He's still got the rifle,
so, now it's just fear,
405
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:55,500
trying to figure out
what he's gonna do to you,
406
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,260
and you go into
the mode of survival
407
00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:00,080
and doing what you can
to survive at that point.
408
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:07,640
Give me that!
409
00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:21,890
Hey.
410
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,620
411
00:27:38,810 --> 00:27:40,310
You wanna kill me?!
412
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,210
413
00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:46,480
Come on, now.
414
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:51,920
Don't be a sore loser.
415
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,350
Heh.
416
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,200
Here.
417
00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:57,820
You can have that
back now.
418
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,600
She's in the worst place
that a person could ever be.
419
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,510
It's got to be absolutely
horrible and awful.
420
00:28:15,580 --> 00:28:19,250
Rozina has no choice
but to beg for her life.
421
00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:30,820
Please,
422
00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:31,870
don't do this.
423
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,170
I have a family.
424
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,130
The helplessness. You know,
you can't do anything.
425
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,450
They need me.
426
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,370
Even to try and run away.
427
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:47,440
I won't say anything.
428
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,780
Where are you
gonna run to?
429
00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:49,980
There's the one road.
430
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,780
If anyone asks, I'll tell
them it was an accident.
431
00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:59,490
It was
a misunderstanding.
432
00:28:59,490 --> 00:29:03,290
So, just to do
what you can to survive,
433
00:29:03,290 --> 00:29:05,230
but there's not a lot to do.
434
00:29:05,230 --> 00:29:07,330
Just hoping he
doesn't kill you.
435
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:12,730
Let me go.
436
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:19,410
Let me go home.
437
00:29:19,410 --> 00:29:20,740
Please.
438
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:28,950
You want me
to let you go?
439
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,340
Here's my answer.
440
00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:47,700
441
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,700
It takes several days
442
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,240
before anyone begins
to realize
443
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,380
that Doug and rozina's trip
has not gone according to plan.
444
00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:57,180
That's weird.
445
00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:58,610
My son was asking me,
446
00:29:58,610 --> 00:30:00,250
because he was feeding
their cats,
447
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:03,020
when were they
gonna get home?
448
00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:05,350
Doug!
449
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:06,520
Rozina?!
450
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,560
And I said, "I don't know.
I don't know."
451
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,790
I assumed they'd be home
Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday,
452
00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:15,260
but, they didn't get home.
453
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,810
Her employer called and said
that rozie hadn't returned
454
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:27,150
and it was not like her
to not show up for work
455
00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:29,740
and we thought for sure that,
456
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:32,950
well, maybe they took
an extra day.
457
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:34,410
More than a week
458
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:38,460
after Doug and rozina set off
on their dream vacation,
459
00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:41,960
a couple of hikers
come across their Van.
460
00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:53,000
Try the door.
461
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:59,270
-Get outta there!
462
00:30:59,270 --> 00:31:02,840
Okay.
463
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,880
My god!
464
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:08,510
We have to get help.
-Yeah.
465
00:31:21,730 --> 00:31:24,130
Detective,
deputy bill Steven.
466
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:25,430
How can I help?
467
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:29,240
Doug and rozina Anderson.
468
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,540
Oregon driver's licenses.
469
00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:36,910
It looks like he was --
470
00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:37,740
deputy.
471
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:45,290
You know, a small community, the
homicide rate is extremely low,
472
00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:50,220
and now we've got two
travelers from another state
473
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:54,890
that have both been gunned down
in one of our parks.
474
00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:00,900
It was kind of a hard thing
475
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:04,670
for the entire community
of del norte to absorb
476
00:32:04,670 --> 00:32:07,510
and it was the first time
that I had been involved
477
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:10,540
in any type of
a homicide investigation.
478
00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:14,790
Trying to track down
the families now.
479
00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:17,250
My mom, she
480
00:32:17,250 --> 00:32:20,350
had it so tough because of,
you know,
481
00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:23,960
here, her one daughter,
that she'd kept trying
482
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,360
to have kids
until she'd have a daughter,
483
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,630
had been taken from her.
484
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,370
And it was just really,
really difficult
485
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:36,500
to break the news to her
486
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:43,610
that there was no happy news
about rozina and Doug ended up.
487
00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:49,850
The impact was just
almost physical,
488
00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:52,750
and as you feel,
you think, "my gosh.
489
00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:57,020
I'm here because
my best friend is gone.
490
00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:58,360
And her husband, too."
491
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,360
This makes no sense.
492
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,230
While their families mourn
the loss of Doug and rozina,
493
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:07,700
investigators are determined
to find their killer.
494
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,600
There was a lot of people that
came forward with information
495
00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:12,120
and detectives sought out
a lot of people.
496
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:15,170
They went to the local stores
and tried to get
497
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,450
any information they could,
any leads, about people that,
498
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:22,130
you know, didn't belong there,
that were acting strange.
499
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Yeah, um,
500
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,050
around the 16th,
501
00:33:25,050 --> 00:33:26,950
I noticed there was
a Van parked out there.
502
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:28,990
I didn't think anything
of it at the time.
503
00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:30,360
Griffin:
There were hikers
that came forward
504
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,260
that were in the area,
that saw things.
505
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:34,360
So you're askin' me
what happened that day?
506
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,260
Well, we were hiking
507
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:37,360
for a few hours.
508
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:39,140
We got back to the car.
509
00:33:39,130 --> 00:33:40,900
My purse was snatched
out of my car
510
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:42,400
when my husband
and I were hiking.
511
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840
There was even, at one point,
a psychic that came forward
512
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440
and said she had a vision
of the main suspects
513
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,110
that the detectives
thought it was.
514
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:52,910
I see them.
515
00:33:52,910 --> 00:33:54,510
The men that did this.
516
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:58,890
One of them has
517
00:33:58,890 --> 00:34:01,920
blue eyes
518
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,690
and blond hair.
519
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:08,260
They're bad.
520
00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:10,460
Bad men.
521
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:13,570
Okay, well, thanks again
for coming in.
522
00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:15,640
The deputy
will show you out.
523
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,540
We had a couple of people
that we thought
524
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:23,010
could possibly
have done it.
525
00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:25,510
We looked at them as suspects.
526
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:27,410
We talked to them.
527
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:29,760
We talked to people that
they knew
528
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:31,550
and some of that dragged out
529
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:35,350
over the course
of several years.
530
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,270
You start to feel
a little bit desperate,
531
00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:39,930
like maybe this is
one of those ones
532
00:34:39,930 --> 00:34:41,460
that isn't going to get solved.
533
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,070
27 years pass
without any solid leads.
534
00:34:47,070 --> 00:34:50,640
And, as the decades
go by, you know,
535
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,310
there's quite a few times
536
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:57,880
or just discussed by the
deputies over the years
537
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,550
and other ideas thrown out and
other possibilities discussed
538
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:06,550
and it's something
that we don't forget.
539
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:10,660
And then, suddenly,
a huge break.
540
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,130
I know I was vague
over the phone,
541
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:13,590
.-but I thought this might be
542
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:15,330
easier to explain
in person.
543
00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:17,230
Remember a case back
in '88,
544
00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:20,300
the victims' names were
Doug and rozina Anderson?
545
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:25,140
Yeah, of course,
up in stout grove. Why?
546
00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:26,870
We got a guy
wants to cop to it.
547
00:35:28,610 --> 00:35:29,840
You got a name?
548
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,210
Well, that's one of the
reasons we called you.
549
00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,180
Guy says he knows you.
550
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:39,760
-Knows me?
-Yeah.
551
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:43,690
The name's John kelley.
552
00:35:43,690 --> 00:35:45,090
-Kelley?
-Wants to speak to you
553
00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:45,930
personally.
554
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,860
I'll be damned.
555
00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:08,160
It's been 27 years since
Doug and rozina Anderson
556
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,720
were murdered in
Jedediah Smith state park.
557
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,290
Now, a man named John kelley
wants to confess to the crime
558
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:18,020
and, it turns out,
he may know the detective
559
00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:20,500
who originally
worked the case.
560
00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:21,860
He
561
00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:23,760
was an old friend of mine.
562
00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:30,600
I hung out with a group
of pretty good kids
563
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,470
in high school and
he was part of that group.
564
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:38,640
And so, at the time of my junior
and senior year in high school,
565
00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:40,690
I was pretty good
friends with him.
566
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,120
It was veryodd.
567
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:54,090
John kelley has already been
convicted of another murder,
568
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:57,140
but, in a bid to escape
the death penalty,
569
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:59,200
he decides there's
one more crime
570
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,270
he'd like to get off his chest.
571
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:46,190
Get outta there!--
572
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,520
This was my first major case
to interview a killer
573
00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,740
and I expected, going in,
to see pure evil
574
00:38:01,730 --> 00:38:03,060
sittin' across
the table from me,
575
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:05,560
seeing that Charles manson,
you know, Jeffrey dahmer,
576
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:09,080
whatever, whoever
that pure evil is.
577
00:38:09,070 --> 00:38:11,200
And then you walk
into the interview
578
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:16,990
and sit down with Mr. Kelley
and I was totally surprised.
579
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,730
It was more like sitting down
with a friend from high school
580
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,710
that you haven't seen
for a couple decades,
581
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:48,010
and it was just, it was amazing
and scary at the same time
582
00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:50,340
that a person like that
could do what he did
583
00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:55,110
'cause he didn't seem
like a person that would.
584
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:12,670
No! No, no, no,
no, no, no.
585
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:36,860
It was --
586
00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:42,260
it was awful to process the
information that he was giving.
587
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:43,830
I've, you know, listened
588
00:39:43,830 --> 00:39:47,970
to a lot of awful things
from people
589
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:51,370
in a lot of interviews
over the course of my career.
590
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:54,470
This bothered me more
than any of them,
591
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,020
in that it was
an old friend of mine
592
00:39:57,010 --> 00:40:02,150
admitting to just absolutely
awful and heinous things.
593
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:06,450
I was trying to get him
to explain to me
594
00:40:06,450 --> 00:40:08,490
why he was doing that.
595
00:41:00,810 --> 00:41:05,640
I'm glad he will never come out
and never hurt anybody again,
596
00:41:05,650 --> 00:41:10,930
but, you know,
it would be really nice to
597
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,520
edit that chapter in our life
598
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,920
and just erase
his name completely
599
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,690
from all of our memory
600
00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:20,830
and anything that had
to do with our family
601
00:41:20,830 --> 00:41:23,130
'cause people think,
"well, something like that's
602
00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:25,760
never gonna happen
to my family."
603
00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:27,610
Well, then it does.
604
00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:33,050
In December 2015,
605
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,940
John kelley is sentenced
to two consecutive life terms
606
00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:39,410
without the possibility
of parole
607
00:41:39,410 --> 00:41:42,820
for the murders
of Doug and rozina Anderson.
608
00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:48,820
John kelley absolutely
belongs in state prison
609
00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:52,490
and he needs to be there for
the rest of his natural life.
610
00:42:03,370 --> 00:42:07,040
There's a lot of bad things
that happen to good people
611
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,610
and we have to remember that,
that we're not
612
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:13,350
in a protective bubble
where nothing can happen to US.
613
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:15,980
I think the thing
to be learned is
614
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:19,120
all the beauty of nature
615
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,150
that we're put here to enjoy
616
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,670
and looking forward to the day
when we'll see rozina again.
617
00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:30,500
It won't be in this
lifetime, but,
618
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:34,230
you're supposed to take a more
619
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:39,510
long-range view of things
when you're a Christian
620
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:41,870
and that's what we try
to keep in mind.
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