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A woman looking
to get lost in the wilderness...
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It's so beautiful.
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My mom was always
just looking for something,
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some kind of refuge.
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...falls in
with the wrong company.
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Where are we?
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Right here. Let's go.
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If you are not there
with a person or people
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who intend on doing you harm,
you don't have a lot of options.
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And the worst part is
it's happened before.
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Why did she get in the car?
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Nestled on the banks
of the Ohio river,
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lawrenceburg, Indiana, is
a picturesque town of 5,000.
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The area in lawrenceburg proper
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is the first county in Indiana
west of Cincinnati.
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Good people --
just middle-class people
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that look out for each other.
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And with miles
of sprawling countryside
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surrounding lawrenceburg,
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it attracts many nature lovers
to the area,
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including 36-year-old,
Patricia dechristopher
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and her 12-year-old
daughter, Amanda.
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My mom was always
just looking for something,
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some kind of refuge, and so
we always picked up and moved.
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Don't you just love the trees
this time of morning?
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I think this is
the favorite part of the day.
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Mom, why did we move
to the big city?
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Lawrenceburg is a big city?
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It is to me.
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Okay, I can see that.
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It does have
a waffle house.
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At that time, we had
a little studio apartment,
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we slept in the same bed.
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I don't know how she did it,
but we did.
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We always kind of had
our own little place,
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and we survive, you know?
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It's so beautiful.
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I feel so close
and connected somehow.
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Connected to what?
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Well...connected
to grandma.
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Back in the late '70s,
a teenage Patricia
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enjoyed the solitude of nature
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with her own mother,
Marie huckings.
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Mom, why do you like
the woods so much?
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Well, that's a big question
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for so early
in the morning.
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It's beautiful out here,
for one thing,
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you can see that right?
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I guess
I just feel more grounded
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and in touch with nature
and everything
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and everyone in my life,
especially you Patricia.
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You and I will always
be connected.
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And I love you so much.
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I love you too, mom.
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I like
to hear about her.
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I wish
I got to know her.
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Yeah, I know.
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Her mom passed away
in '79.
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My grandmother was
everything to my mom.
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When she died, my mom just kind
of died a little bit with her.
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It's not something that
she ever wanted to talk about.
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Can I run ahead?
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Mom! Mom!
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Mom!
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Come here! Come here!
Stop! Stop! Stop!
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Don't!
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Get off me!
Get off me!
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Lordy! You guys scared me
half to death!
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What?
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My goodness.
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What do you mean?
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I was just greeting my favorite
daughter with some hugs
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that she
so hopefully deserves.
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I'm your
only daughter, dad!
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Come here you.
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Patricia had Amanda out
of wedlock in the mid-'90s.
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Her and Patrick met through
a dating service,
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and Patrick raised Amanda
like she was his.
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Though 37-year-old
Patrick dechristopher
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has been estranged from Patricia
for some time now,
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he still remains a fixture
in her and Amanda's lives.
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I stayed close to her, and
I tried to do my best for her
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and I think she understood that,
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and she was appreciative of it,
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it was obvious
that losing her mother
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when she lost her mother
was traumatic.
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I used to tell her, "you're
still alive. You're here.
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Look at what you've been
through, and you're here.
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I'm sorry, honey.
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I got here a little earlier
than we planned.
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It's fine.
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Can I get at least get
a tiny hug from a birthday girl?
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Yeah.
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Aah!
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Hey.
Look what I brought you guys.
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Wow.
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So, I guess that means
you're staying for lunch?
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Please.
Well, if you insist.
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Hey, be careful
with that!
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It was her birthday,
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and we were talking,
and I said,
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"you know, it's your birthday.
Let's just spend time together."
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-Did you eat enough cake?
-No.
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Okay, Mandy,
I have a mission for you.
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I want you take this
and go get yourself
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some snacks for tonight,
and then go get your bag
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from the car
and come back, okay?
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Okay.
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Hey, we can watch a scary movie
and eat what you get. Deal?
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I get to choose
the movie?
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I'm not going to like this,
but...Okay.
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Deal!
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Nothing was out of
the ordinary, really.
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It was just
an everyday occurrence.
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I remember about my dad
joking about her being old.
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I think she was 35,
so she was obviously not old.
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You've done good.
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Well, I had a lot of help...
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More than I deserved.
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She was always
trying to do better for herself,
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always trying
to do better for Mandy.
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She used to come to me sometime
and break down and tell me
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because of her issues
that she was failing Mandy,
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and I always told her
that she wasn't.
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She wasn't failing her.
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Hey, you know,
you can talk to me any time
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about anything.
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I'm still here.
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And maybe some day,
we can get past all this.
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I'd love that.
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But Patricia's still not sure
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if she's ready
to talk about
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what happened
to her mother.
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I just don't even know.
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It's just too horrifying
to put into words.
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It all started
back in 1979
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when Patricia's mom,
Marie,
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decided to dip her toe
in the dating pool again.
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I haven't don't this
in years.
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I got you a beer.
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Thanks.
You're welcome.
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Marie had recently
gotten divorced
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and was starting to move on
with a new part of her life.
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And Dennis Mitchell
was one of the first men
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who piqued her interest.
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I hear
you actually hunt?
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Yeah, I hunt.
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And what's wrong
with that?
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Nothing.
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Nothing.
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You just don't see,
like, that a lot.
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"That a lot."
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Well, I bet
I'm better than you.
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A few days later,
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the couple goes on
a hunting date together,
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capping it off with a trip
to the local watering hole.
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I thought you said
you were a hunter?
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Hey, lay off, okay? Yes,
we came up totally empty today.
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And we were
out in the woods.
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I love it out there.
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It's so special
out there.
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That gives Marie's date,
Dennis, an idea.
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I know a place -- quiet.
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Let's take a drive
in a bit.
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Okay.
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They had decided
to take a drive out
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into the country
away from everyone else,
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so, she left the bar
with him.
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Yeah.
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Why did she get
in that car.
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Didn't she know she wasn't
supposed to do that?
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Stop. Stop. Stop.
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There's no way
she could have known
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what was going to happen
in that car. Trust me.
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After a 10-minute
drive, Dennis and Marie
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arrived at a remote
stretch of woods
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that Dennis promises is perfect
for stargazing.
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Are you sure you know
exactly where we're going?
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Don't worry. It's right up
here around this corner.
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You know,
I don't normally
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get in cars with strangers
out in the middle of nowhere.
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My.
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You were right.
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I don't think I've ever seen
so many stars.
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This is incredible.
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Hey, look.
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This is amazing,
and we're on a good path.
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I just want
to take it slower, okay?
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What do you mean slow?
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This is a two-way
street here, Dennis.
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No, I don't know what you mean
by "two-way street."
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And whatever pace we're on
is for me to decide,
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that's the way it is.
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It's 1979
in nicholville, New York,
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and Marie huckings is suddenly
seeing a new side of the man
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she recently started dating,
Dennis Mitchell.
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I just want
to take it slower, okay?
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What do you mean slow?
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This is a two-way
street here, Dennis.
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No, I don't know what you mean
by "two-way street."
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And whatever pace we're on
is for me to decide,
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that's the way it is.
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This guy took her
out in the woods,
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and she was about 5'1".
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This guy was a lot bigger.
You're just afraid.
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Dennis,
I'm not cool with that.
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I don't care
if you're cool with that.
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Dennis, what
are you doing? Stop.
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I don't want
to slow down.
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And we're not going
to slow down.
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Whatever had happened
in that moment,
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I mean, this man took,
you know, great strides
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into making sure
that she was injured.
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God! Please!
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In a matter of minutes,
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Louise's hopes for a pleasant
midnight stroll in the woods
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have morphed
into a fight for her life.
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Help me!
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Nearly 20 years later,
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the thought of what
happened to her mother
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still haunts
Patricia dechristopher
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on an almost daily basis.
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I just have a picture
her looking up at the stars.
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Yeah.
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I can almost feel it.
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Patricia had always
struggled with the fact
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that she had lost her mother
at a young age,
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didn't have that person
to talk to or rely on.
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It seemed to be very close
to the surface for her.
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I just can't get it out of
my mind what she was thinking.
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I know.
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Did she know
her life was ending?
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Though Patricia has
many questions
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about her mothers murder,
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who was responsible
was never one of them.
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I killed that woman.
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I stabbed her.
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I killed that woman.
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The perpetrator,
after taking her out
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and murdering her in the woods,
came back to the bar.
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The people in the bar
were shocked and astonished.
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Yeah, there's this guy
just came in the bar.
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He's covered in blood.
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He said
he killed somebody.
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Patty's mother was 5'2",
120 pounds,
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he comes up with this story
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about defending himself
and that she's trying to Rob him
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is why he ended up
stabbing her multiple times
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and leaving her
out there for dead.
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Investigators see right
through Dennis Mitchell's story.
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He is placed under arrest
and charged with
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the second degree murder
of Marie huckings.
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Despite a plea of insanity,
he is found guilty
259
00:14:44,170 --> 00:14:47,580
and sentenced
to 20 years to life.
260
00:14:47,570 --> 00:14:50,270
You have a suspect
that identifies himself for you,
261
00:14:50,270 --> 00:14:51,340
covered with physical evidence.
262
00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:55,410
As far as cases
and murder cases go,
263
00:14:55,410 --> 00:14:56,980
that's a pretty easy case.
264
00:14:56,980 --> 00:15:00,980
Marie's daughter Patricia
is left to pick up the pieces.
265
00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:03,920
When her mother passed, she had
nobody, literally nobody,
266
00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,390
she tried to stay
with different relatives,
267
00:15:05,390 --> 00:15:12,060
but that didn't work out, and
she just drifted through life.
268
00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:16,730
It's a sad thing,
but she really and truly --
269
00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:20,170
she had nowhere to turn,
270
00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:24,170
I'm sorry
this broke US up.
271
00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:28,010
And I'm sorry.
I just can't give past it.
272
00:15:28,010 --> 00:15:31,210
Yeah, I know.
273
00:15:31,210 --> 00:15:32,180
Me, too.
274
00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:33,210
She was still married
275
00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:34,660
to Patrick dechristopher
at that time,
276
00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:37,050
but Patrick had, I believe,
chosen to give her some space
277
00:15:37,050 --> 00:15:42,820
to help figure out where
she was going with her life.
278
00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:46,340
I think she struggled with
just her everyday existence,
279
00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:50,600
whether it was employment
social relationships,
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00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,670
she's having
a tough time in life.
281
00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:53,300
Why don't you come
with Mandy and me.
282
00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,900
We'll continue
the birthday celebration.
283
00:15:56,910 --> 00:15:57,950
Come on.
It'll be fun,
284
00:15:57,940 --> 00:15:59,810
no. No.
Come on.
285
00:15:59,810 --> 00:16:01,240
No, you guys
go have fun,
286
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,380
I'm going to go
take a nap,
287
00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:05,080
and have a casino
for a couple of hours,
288
00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,210
and then hill Jackson
and celebrate.
289
00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:09,390
I said, "you need
to try to get over it.
290
00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:10,880
Get beyond it. Get past it."
291
00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:14,900
And, you know, in the the end,
she just got tired of fighting.
292
00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,620
"I'm going to enjoy myself.
I'm going to have fun."
293
00:16:17,630 --> 00:16:21,710
As Patricia prepares
for a night on the town,
294
00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:25,630
Patrick and Mandy set out
for a quiet movie night at home.
295
00:16:25,630 --> 00:16:28,470
Are we ready to go?
Yeah, let's go.
296
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:31,310
Bye. I'll miss you.
I love you.
297
00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:32,640
I love you, too.
298
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,840
All right,
see you, babe.
299
00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:40,550
She turns to me and says that
"I know you gave me
300
00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:43,980
a better life,
and I really appreciate that,
301
00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:47,460
and I really
and truly do love you."
302
00:16:53,130 --> 00:16:56,500
That night, Patricia
heads to a local tavern
303
00:16:56,500 --> 00:17:00,070
with a friend, looking to get
her mind off her troubles.
304
00:17:00,070 --> 00:17:02,470
My mom was just
the life of the party.
305
00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:04,610
Whenever she, like,
was in a good mood,
306
00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:09,280
she just, you know, illuminated
that toward everybody.
307
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,610
She just had this aura about her
that just invited people,
308
00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:17,190
no matter who they were.
309
00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:21,070
Hey, young ladies.
310
00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:25,890
My friend and I was wondering
if we could buy you two a drink.
311
00:17:25,890 --> 00:17:27,460
While she was at her
local bar called
312
00:17:27,460 --> 00:17:28,800
"hill Jackson lawrenceburg,"
313
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:35,870
she ran into and met
Ronald pavey and George liapis.
314
00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:36,840
My friend here
is turning 36 years old.
315
00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,170
Carol!
316
00:17:38,170 --> 00:17:43,540
Well, hot damn, Georgie, we've
got ourselves a birthday girl.
317
00:17:43,550 --> 00:17:45,390
Ladies, this is my buddy George,
he don't talk much
318
00:17:45,380 --> 00:17:46,410
but I swear he is just
319
00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:48,460
the sweetest gentleman
under this sun.
320
00:17:48,450 --> 00:17:52,250
Ronald pavey and George
liapis were 30-something men,
321
00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:55,690
both divorced who happened
to share an apartment.
322
00:17:55,690 --> 00:17:58,690
George seemed to want to
ingratiate himself
323
00:17:58,690 --> 00:18:01,900
and endear himself
to other people.
324
00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:05,500
Ron seemed to project
a tough guy image
325
00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,840
that you should do what
he wants you to do regardless.
326
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,510
Have you guys ever
had sex on the beach?
327
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,780
The drink, the drink.
The drink.
328
00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:15,050
Yeah.
329
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,810
Pavey was the leader
and liapis was the follower.
330
00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:23,260
How about it?
Well, yeah.
331
00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:26,520
Yeah? We're good?
Yeah.
332
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,320
Yeah?
Let's do some shots.
333
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,420
Hey, Tony, hook US up.
334
00:18:29,420 --> 00:18:32,860
As the night starts
to heat up for Patty
335
00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:34,130
and her new companions,
336
00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:37,460
her daughter Mandy
and estranged husband Patrick
337
00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:39,480
are just winding down.
338
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,470
How do you watch
this stuff.
339
00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:45,610
It's not real.
340
00:18:45,610 --> 00:18:49,280
This one's kind of bad,
but it's fun.
341
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,940
Wow, you could
have fooled me.
342
00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:56,780
Dad, can I say something?
343
00:18:56,790 --> 00:18:58,600
Sure, honey, anything.
344
00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:03,020
What happened to grandma?
345
00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:06,600
Like, what really
happened grandma?
346
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,540
My mom never discussed
her family,
347
00:19:09,530 --> 00:19:11,370
she never discussed
her childhood memories.
348
00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:14,100
No matter like what was
going on, where we were,
349
00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,470
she did not discuss
my grandmother.
350
00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:20,240
It was just this family secret.
351
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,840
She misses her mom,
352
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,250
but grandma is watching out
for all of US
353
00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:27,850
and that makes her
feel better.
354
00:19:27,850 --> 00:19:32,390
And she's got you which makes
her feel really better.
355
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:36,160
Mandy was awfully
young, she was very, very young.
356
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,130
I wanted to let her
know up front
357
00:19:38,130 --> 00:19:40,360
that her mother
was there for her
358
00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:44,100
in spite of whatever issues
that she may have had.
359
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,100
Back at the bar,
it's getting late.
360
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,400
But Patricia doesn't seem ready
for the party to end.
361
00:19:50,410 --> 00:19:54,890
Let's call it a night.
No, it's my birthday.
362
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,040
What makes me upset the most
363
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,880
is that's when she was really
doing well,
364
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,680
like she wasn't, you know,
having the issues,
365
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,590
she was making better friends,
366
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:07,650
she wanted to socialize.
367
00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:08,830
Just one more drink.
368
00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:12,290
No, look, you're either going
with me now
369
00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:13,460
or you're going
to promise me
370
00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:16,660
that you'll stay here
for the last drink,
371
00:20:16,670 --> 00:20:20,740
and, then, you'll
go straight home.
372
00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:22,050
Alone.
373
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,300
I promise.
374
00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:29,420
She seemed to be naive
in her trust of people.
375
00:20:29,410 --> 00:20:32,380
And put herself in circumstances
376
00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:33,910
that were dangerous
circumstances
377
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560
for a young, single woman.
378
00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,420
There we are.
379
00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:44,590
Okay, guys, thank you.
380
00:20:44,590 --> 00:20:46,590
But I'm going to head home.
381
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,070
I'm work tomorrow.
Pbbbttthh.
382
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:53,180
Happy birthday.
Ooh!
383
00:20:53,170 --> 00:20:54,800
See you guys later.
384
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,100
Yeah, great meeting you.
385
00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,740
Now, with Patricia
all to themselves,
386
00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:00,840
Ronald pavey and George liapis
387
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,840
are only too happy
to keep the party going.
388
00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:04,990
To the birthday girl,
389
00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:09,250
may this be
the most memorable birthday
390
00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:10,980
of your entire life.
391
00:21:10,990 --> 00:21:12,560
Cheers.
Cheers.
392
00:21:27,540 --> 00:21:29,150
Hey, hey, hey.
393
00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:33,240
The night of Patricia
dechristopher's 36th birthday
394
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,410
is coming to an end.
395
00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:38,550
Happy birthday.
396
00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:40,150
-See you guys later.
-Yeah, great meeting you.
397
00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:44,220
But her new friends,
Ronald pavey and George liapis,
398
00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:46,350
aren't ready to say
goodbye just yet.
399
00:21:46,350 --> 00:21:48,390
-Cheers.
-Cheers.
400
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,840
As the night wears on, Ron and
George grow tired of the bar,
401
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,070
they try to convince Patricia
to leave with them
402
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:07,340
by offering to take her
to a special place.
403
00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:10,110
Come on, you -- you got
to come out there
404
00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:11,580
with US, it'll be
fun, really.
405
00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:12,780
Look it's a really
cool place,
406
00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:15,650
you'll feel like you're on
a whole different planet.
407
00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:16,820
Look at Georgie over here
408
00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:19,750
trying to sound
like a poet or something.
409
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:22,390
It's just a spot up at
upper Grant's creek,
410
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:26,330
but it's one that not
that many people know about.
411
00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:31,700
I love going into the woods,
looking up at the stars.
412
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:38,310
My.
413
00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:45,380
Patricia, Patricia,
hey.
414
00:22:45,380 --> 00:22:46,810
Well?
415
00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:51,060
I'll be back in a minute, I've
got to get a glass of water.
416
00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:59,260
Hey, Tony?
417
00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:01,460
I don't feel
too great,
418
00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:04,330
I want to call Patrick
and get a ride home.
419
00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:06,230
You got a number?
Yeah.
420
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:08,030
Can I get a glass
of water?
421
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,380
Yeah, sure.
422
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:16,510
My sense was that
the bartenders recognized
423
00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:17,810
that Patricia was intoxicated
424
00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:21,720
and that it was probably not
a good situation for her.
425
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,090
Yeah, can you come to the bar
and pick her up?
426
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:27,390
Sorry, I got a machine.
427
00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:31,190
I'll keep trying, but is there
anybody else I can call?
428
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:33,130
No, I'll be fine.
429
00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:36,100
I'm feeling much
better already.
430
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,930
I'll get home myself.
431
00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:41,470
If she would have called just
another number that she had,
432
00:23:41,470 --> 00:23:42,640
I would have went and got her.
433
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,140
She didn't, she gave
my office number out.
434
00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:51,240
So, what do you think?
435
00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:56,590
Rendezvous under the stars,
it's a nice night.
436
00:23:56,580 --> 00:23:58,050
You know what...
437
00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:01,350
...it sounds like a fun way
to wrap up my birthday.
438
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,600
Now we're talking.
439
00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:09,000
But wait guys, you cannot
tell Carol, she'll kill me.
440
00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:14,670
Our lips are sealed.
441
00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:16,140
Let's rumble.
442
00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:25,210
Where are we?
443
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:29,350
Are you sure you know
exactly where we're going?
444
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:34,590
Don't you worry, it's gonna
be a birthday to remember.
445
00:24:34,590 --> 00:24:37,060
Whatever pace we're on
is for me to decide.
446
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,890
Though Patricia
is too tipsy to realize it,
447
00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:43,460
the two men don't take her
directly to the woods.
448
00:24:43,470 --> 00:24:46,840
They first make a stop at Ron
and George's apartment
449
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,880
where events
get wildly out of hand.
450
00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:58,080
She was beyond tipsy
and pretty intoxicated
451
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,380
and they were taking
advantage of her.
452
00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:03,520
In her state, in her condition.
453
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,150
Within the hour,
the trio is back in the car,
454
00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:08,620
and as they head farther
and farther from town
455
00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:13,060
Patricia has no idea
how much time has passed
456
00:25:13,060 --> 00:25:14,230
or how far they're going,
457
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:17,500
but one thing's for certain --
she's in danger.
458
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:23,000
Hey, you can't fall asleep
before the party's over.
459
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840
Hey.
460
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:30,540
Snap, flash,
I took your picture.
461
00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:31,920
Add that to
the collection.
462
00:25:31,910 --> 00:25:33,480
Yeah.
463
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,650
Ron, seriously, where
we going, man?
464
00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:38,950
Keep driving,
465
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:40,950
I'll tell you
when to stop.
466
00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:51,260
How you doing
birthday girl?
467
00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,880
I feel woozy.
468
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:56,700
Where are we?
469
00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,370
We're here. Let's go.
470
00:26:02,410 --> 00:26:05,750
They ended up in this remote
area of Switzerland county
471
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:09,020
on a road that runs
alongside a creek.
472
00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:13,490
You're immediately struck
by the remoteness of the area,
473
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:17,660
by the sense that if you are
an individual out there
474
00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:23,400
with a person or people
who intend to do you harm,
475
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600
you don't have a lot of options.
476
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,130
Hey, how you
all doing back there?
477
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:30,610
We're fine.
478
00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:35,120
What time is it?
It feels way later.
479
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:36,240
We came
straight out here,
480
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,710
you don't remember
when we left the bar?
481
00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:42,280
I don't know,
I just feel weird.
482
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,020
Like it's been hours
or something.
483
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:49,020
Gosh, she doesn't remember
anything, Romeo.
484
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:53,990
Wow...
485
00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:57,800
Wow, these are...
486
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,900
The stars
are beautiful tonight.
487
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:04,640
You guys are right,
this place is special.
488
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,970
But Ron and George
didn't bring Patricia out here
489
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:09,120
to look at the stars --
490
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:11,040
they came to make sure
that what happened
491
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:14,390
back at the apartment
never gets out.
492
00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:19,690
Well, now I have one final
birthday gift for you.
493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,520
Stop!
494
00:27:24,530 --> 00:27:26,500
Stay down.
495
00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:28,500
Ron, get up,
get up.
496
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,300
Ron, get off!
497
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:34,930
Back off!
498
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:37,410
Why did you
just do that?
499
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:40,120
Just a minute.
500
00:27:40,110 --> 00:27:41,710
She's dead.
501
00:27:41,710 --> 00:27:43,080
Thinking their troubles
are over,
502
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
George and Ron start
heading out of the woods.
503
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,680
But Patricia dechristopher
isn't dead,
504
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,050
and she seizes the opportunity
505
00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:51,890
to make a run for it.
506
00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:12,110
Now, like her mother
two decades before,
507
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:17,180
Patricia dechristopher falls
prey to a violent predator.
508
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:21,280
This person spent
the last several years
509
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,450
being verbally abusive
and intimidating,
510
00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,390
and she just happened
to be that last person.
511
00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:31,060
It gave him an excuse to do
what he had been wanting to do
512
00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:34,460
for a long time --
which was kill someone.
513
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:55,620
Patricia, you and I
will always be connected.
514
00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:56,920
The situation with her mother
515
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,320
in St. Regis falls in New York
20 years earlier
516
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,690
was so strikingly similar,
517
00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:05,190
just astonishing at that point.
518
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:07,430
Could there be some
connection beyond the fact
519
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:12,570
that they were murdered
in similar fashions?
520
00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:13,600
It was shocking.
521
00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:27,150
You guys are right,
this place is special.
522
00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:32,520
Well, now, I have one final
birthday present for you.
523
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,820
Ushered into
the Ohio wilderness
524
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:37,390
by two men
she met at a bar,
525
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:42,460
Patricia dechristopher's life
has just come to a violent end.
526
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:48,850
Multiple injuries to her neck
where her throat was cut.
527
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Nearly decapitated.
528
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,510
This was the release of energy
and anger.
529
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:57,540
Back off!
530
00:29:57,550 --> 00:29:58,760
Three days pass
531
00:29:58,750 --> 00:30:00,810
without Patricia's estranged
husband Patrick
532
00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:07,630
having any idea
that his wife has been murdered.
533
00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:08,890
But deep down...
534
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:09,760
Hey, Carol, it's Patrick.
535
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,160
...he knows something is wrong.
536
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,230
I drove around to the places
where I thought she might be
537
00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:16,330
but I couldn't find her.
538
00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:18,430
For three days,
I couldn't find her.
539
00:30:18,430 --> 00:30:25,070
I see, you haven't heard
from her either?
540
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:27,140
Okay, well, let me know.
541
00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:30,840
I didn't want to bother her
because it was her life,
542
00:30:30,850 --> 00:30:36,460
and so I waited.
543
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:37,780
And then in the meantime,
544
00:30:37,790 --> 00:30:41,130
in my heart knowing
that it wasn't -- wasn't right.
545
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,390
You got everything you need
for school?
546
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:48,430
Hey, have you heard from
your mom since her birthday?
547
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:49,560
No.
548
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,860
Maybe she was off doing
something else,
549
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:53,710
maybe she took a couple days
and went away, you know.
550
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:55,670
I just didn't know, you know?
551
00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:58,840
And I didn't want
to jump the gun on it.
552
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,270
Bye.
553
00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:02,380
Bye, sweetie.
Have a good day.
554
00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:03,480
Okay.
555
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,050
Then,
less than 24-hours later,
556
00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:09,820
a woman out for a walk
in the woods
557
00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:16,660
makes a shocking discovery.
558
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:24,000
She actually saw Patricia's
body, and, so, obviously,
559
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,030
she had returned to her home
and contacted the police.
560
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,110
When officers arrive
on the scene,
561
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:32,180
it's clear they have a homicide,
562
00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:34,670
but the victim's identity
is a mystery.
563
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,520
The victim didn't have
any identification on her body.
564
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:41,210
So the first task at hand
was to determine who this was?
565
00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:42,890
The only form of
identification --
566
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,590
or the only lead we got
at the scene
567
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:49,490
was a couple of tickets
in the back pants pocket
568
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,890
of a pair of cut-off blue jeans
569
00:31:50,890 --> 00:31:56,300
and those were tickets, boarding
passes for the local casino.
570
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,730
Me and a couple of
the other detectives
571
00:31:58,730 --> 00:32:00,070
were going to
to the argosy casino,
572
00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:02,870
try to identify based
upon the times on the tickets
573
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:05,070
and that was our plan.
574
00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:07,040
And before we got to the casino,
575
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440
I got a call from
the state police post that said,
576
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,540
"you might want to swing
by lawrenceburg p.D."
577
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:15,120
At the station,
detective Stan tressler
578
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,490
is greeted by
Patrick dechristopher.
579
00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:18,960
I can't believe this.
580
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:23,920
That Thursday, April 8th...
581
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:25,540
She was due back at work
582
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,660
and I called work, and I said,
"did Patty show up today?"
583
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:29,930
And her boss said no,
and I said,
584
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:33,470
"something's wrong.
Something's terribly wrong."
585
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:34,500
Investigators are convinced
586
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,970
they have identified
their Jane Doe
587
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:39,970
but ask for Patrick's help
just to be sure.
588
00:32:39,970 --> 00:32:41,670
This can't be, man.
589
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,250
I can't believe
this is happening again.
590
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:48,490
This can't be.
591
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,750
Sorry, you had to see her
like that.
592
00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:54,990
What do you mean again?
593
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:57,220
He gives US this envelope
594
00:32:57,230 --> 00:32:59,070
that has newspapers clippings
595
00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:01,830
and copies of
newspapers clippings
596
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:04,360
of Patricia's mother's murder.
597
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:11,380
It happened when she was
a young girl in New York.
598
00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:15,440
And I'm trying to process
this stuff.
599
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:22,080
This is hard to believe.
I know.
600
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,320
I can't wrap my head
around it, man.
601
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Her birthday was
just a few days ago.
602
00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:35,810
You know
where she was headed?
603
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Casino.
The hilljacks.
604
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,670
He'd had a couple stressful days
looking for her,
605
00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:48,140
and I think he just realized
that that nagging feeling
606
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:50,410
that he had was for a reason.
607
00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:53,710
We had a good feeling
about his responses,
608
00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:55,720
his appropriate responses
to the news
609
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:03,020
and how he presented about how
he felt about what occurred.
610
00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:04,260
Though
Patrick dechristopher
611
00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:07,530
is immediately
scratched off the suspect list,
612
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:08,690
he must now face
the terrible reality
613
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:13,910
that his wife
and Mandy's mother is gone.
614
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,840
What am I going to tell
Mandy, man?
615
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,370
I had to tell Mandy
that her mother was gone.
616
00:34:19,370 --> 00:34:22,910
Hardest -- one of the
hardest things I've ever done.
617
00:34:22,910 --> 00:34:27,450
My dad comes in and he's like,
"they found mom,"
618
00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:29,180
and I just said,
"she's dead, isn't she?"
619
00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:30,520
And he says, "yes."
620
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,490
And I remember he just --
he immediately starts crying
621
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:36,520
and, you know,
time just completely stops.
622
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,190
You just go cold.
I didn't feel anything.
623
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:44,160
I didn't cry, I didn't feel
upset, I didn't feel angry.
624
00:34:44,170 --> 00:34:45,370
I just felt out of my body.
625
00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:48,410
I felt like "this is a dream,
this isn't real."
626
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,670
You just want it all to go away.
627
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:52,810
Meantime, detectives turn
their attention to the bar
628
00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:55,910
where Patricia was last known
to be headed.
629
00:34:55,910 --> 00:34:59,050
Individuals who had been
at the bar who had seen
630
00:34:59,050 --> 00:35:01,950
Patricia dechristopher
leaving that evening
631
00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:03,150
were able to provide
632
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:07,250
very specific descriptions
of the two men.
633
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:10,060
We were able to gather
sufficient evidence
634
00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:10,990
to establish
that probable cause
635
00:35:10,990 --> 00:35:12,130
to get that search warrant.
636
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:15,830
Warrant in hand,
officers arrive at the apartment
637
00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:19,330
of Ronald pavey
and George liapis.
638
00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:20,500
Excuse me, could you
tell your boys
639
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,300
to be a little bit
more careful with that?
640
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:23,100
Sit down.
641
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,040
I know my rights!
642
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,240
I don't care
if you've got a warrant.
643
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:27,640
You just can't come in here
messing up my place.
644
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,610
Didn't I tell you
to sit your ass down?
645
00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,480
You think this is a game?
646
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,350
You need to focus
on what's important here.
647
00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:38,820
You know a woman named Patricia.
648
00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:42,860
Who?
Patricia dechristopher.
649
00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:44,120
No.
"No," what?
650
00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:47,040
No, I don't know
who you're talking about.
651
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:48,090
Never met her?
652
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,770
He just told you, man,
what do you want?
653
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:57,870
Shut up.
Never.
654
00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:03,380
Let's get these two
to the station -- separately.
655
00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:07,380
No problem.
656
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:10,380
Make sure they don't move,
especially that guy.
657
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:14,620
As officers take the two men in
for further questioning,
658
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:15,690
inside the apartment,
659
00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:18,060
detectives find
plenty of evidence
660
00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:19,730
to implicate their suspects.
661
00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:21,060
Justin's girlfriend said
662
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,300
that the guy was wearing
a black leather jacket, correct?
663
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:27,970
Yeah.
664
00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:30,970
Is that blood?
Yes, sir, sure is.
665
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:32,970
Let's test that, now.
All right.
666
00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:36,280
What else?
Found this.
667
00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:42,090
Our crime scene tech decided
the camera's got film --
668
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,120
undeveloped film in it --
669
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,180
and it's sitting here
on a shelf.
670
00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:47,130
And I interpret
this search warrant
671
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,420
and I read this search warrant
672
00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:50,420
that I can collect anything
that's latent evidence
673
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:52,560
or that I believe is
latent evidence
674
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,630
based upon my experience.
675
00:36:56,630 --> 00:37:03,940
I wonder what's on that?
Yeah, me too.
676
00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:18,020
Days after 36-year-old
Patricia dechristopher's body
677
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,290
is found in
the remote Indiana wilderness,
678
00:37:20,290 --> 00:37:23,890
detectives are wondering
if a disposable camera
679
00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:26,290
found in the apartment
of two local men
680
00:37:26,290 --> 00:37:27,460
might shed some light
on the case.
681
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:30,800
That camera had a roll
of undeveloped film.
682
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,860
Sometimes people
who commit crimes
683
00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:35,880
actually take photographs
of their work.
684
00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:39,470
So, on that basis,
we got the film developed.
685
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:42,280
And when the photos come back,
686
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,340
they bring the grizzly details
687
00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:46,580
of that faithful night
into sharp focus.
688
00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:49,020
Lo and behold,
we had a picture
689
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,750
of Patricia dechristopher
and Ronald pavey
690
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:55,350
in the apartment
on that particular evening.
691
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,500
When we saw
692
00:37:56,490 --> 00:37:58,490
Patricia dechristopher
and Ronald pavey
693
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:59,560
together in a photo,
694
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,930
on the evening before
she was murdered,
695
00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:04,730
that was the point
in which I said,
696
00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:05,970
"we have the right people."
697
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:08,000
And there's one photo
in particular
698
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,070
that tells police
all they need to know
699
00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:12,940
about what happened
in the apartment that night.
700
00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:16,640
That photograph depicts
Patricia on the floor
701
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,350
on her knees in the living room,
disrobed from the waist down
702
00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:23,480
and it's got Ron pavey
behind her
703
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:30,560
wearing a bathrobe
and nothing else on.
704
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,890
In the foreground of the picture
705
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:35,900
you see a pair of blue jeans
and legs, and it appeared
706
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:40,170
that George liapis
was laid way back on a couch
707
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,970
and was trying to capture
this image.
708
00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:45,740
That photograph was going to be
a trophy.
709
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:49,710
That photograph was going to be
bragging rights with somebody.
710
00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:50,940
Wow.
711
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:53,490
It was going to be a story
that would be retold
712
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,750
about a conquest they had.
713
00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:56,720
Confronted with the evidence,
714
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,490
George liapis
immediately changes his story
715
00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:02,560
admitting that not only
does he know Patricia,
716
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,430
he had sex with her
that night in the apartment.
717
00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:10,230
He indicated that sex
was consensual
718
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:11,500
and that at some point,
719
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:18,500
Ron pavey had been interested
in engaging in sex
720
00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:19,580
with Patricia dechristopher
721
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,780
and that she had rebuffed
his advances.
722
00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:24,880
Pavey's angry,
visibly angry.
723
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,910
He goes into his apartment
and yells,
724
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,090
"we're going to kill her."
725
00:39:33,050 --> 00:39:34,250
Pavey's argument is
726
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:38,270
she's going to accuse him
of rape at that point.
727
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:41,360
Feel like he was looking
for an excuse,
728
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,730
he needed to satisfy
that anger response
729
00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:46,600
that he had that had been
building up for so many years.
730
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,500
Boy, the opposite --
that feeling returned like,
731
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,440
"no, he's really
going to do this."
732
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,710
Ronald pavey is convicted
733
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:56,540
of the first-degree murder
of Patricia dechristopher
734
00:39:56,540 --> 00:40:00,250
and sentenced
to 65 years in prison.
735
00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:01,780
For testifying against pavey,
736
00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:03,220
George liapis receives
a lesser charge
737
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:06,420
of aiding in a murder
and assisting a criminal
738
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:11,560
and is sentenced
to 30 years in prison.
739
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,260
Outside the courthouse
of their pre-trial hearing,
740
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:17,030
Patrick dechristopher
comes face-to-face
741
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:18,900
with his wife's
ruthless killers.
742
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,130
I'm at the bottom of the steps
743
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:22,510
with a .45 in my pocket.
744
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,470
He came right down the steps
within three feet of me
745
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:30,610
and I was going to blow
his brains out.
746
00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:32,850
But then I thought about Mandy.
747
00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:37,380
And I could just see
Patty telling me --
748
00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,950
"what's Mandy going to do?"
749
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:42,760
I just could see her holding
Mandy's hand and telling me,
750
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,660
"what's Mandy going to do
if you do this?"
751
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,530
And I stopped.
752
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:51,430
My dad was just heartbroken
when my mom passed away
753
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:55,470
and he could have sent me up
to New York with a relative.
754
00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:56,670
I was not legally binded
to him, you know,
755
00:40:56,670 --> 00:41:00,540
and he's still stepped up
and took care of me,
756
00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,610
and, so, that's what matters.
757
00:41:01,610 --> 00:41:04,380
I think that I am proud
mostly of my dad
758
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:09,680
for not falling away
when she passed away.
759
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:18,490
Your mom was right,
it is beautiful out here.
760
00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:20,330
Dad...
761
00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:25,700
Is what happened to mom
going to happen to me?
762
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:33,380
My friends are the ones that
kind of made me realize like,
763
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:34,670
"yeah, it's kind of weird
764
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,620
that your mom and your
grandmother were both murdered,"
765
00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:40,310
and it really
frightened me
766
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:44,380
because what if there's
the self-fulfilling prophecy
767
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:46,560
and like I'm going to be next?
768
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:49,520
No, Mandy.
769
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920
It is not going to happen
to you.
770
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,580
I really miss her.
I know. I do, too.
771
00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:01,770
You always try to search
772
00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:03,540
for some good things
out at cases like this.
773
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:07,640
Sometimes it's difficult
to find good things.
774
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,710
But because of the human
being and person
775
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:12,980
that Patrick dechristopher is,
776
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:14,150
how he was before
Patricia's murder
777
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:17,520
and what he's continued to do
since her murder
778
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,720
with Patricia's daughter Amanda
779
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:24,020
has likely broken the chain
in this family,
780
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:26,330
a tragic event.
781
00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:29,460
Life's different now,
life's good, you know,
782
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:31,660
it's just a different set
of stresses than what, you know.
783
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:33,880
But those stresses I went
through with Patty,
784
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:37,600
she taught me how to go through
the stresses now in life.
785
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,170
So, it was a win-win,
786
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:46,310
the only problem is
that she's not here to see it.
59101
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