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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,370 A woman looking to get lost in the wilderness... 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,560 It's so beautiful. 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,860 My mom was always just looking for something, 4 00:00:15,870 --> 00:00:17,610 some kind of refuge. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,040 ...falls in with the wrong company. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,240 Where are we? 7 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:23,640 Right here. Let's go. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,470 If you are not there with a person or people 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:32,290 who intend on doing you harm, you don't have a lot of options. 10 00:00:34,250 --> 00:00:40,390 And the worst part is it's happened before. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,070 Why did she get in the car? 12 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,220 14 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:10,890 Nestled on the banks of the Ohio river, 15 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:16,460 lawrenceburg, Indiana, is a picturesque town of 5,000. 16 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:17,760 The area in lawrenceburg proper 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,860 is the first county in Indiana west of Cincinnati. 18 00:01:21,860 --> 00:01:24,430 Good people -- just middle-class people 19 00:01:24,430 --> 00:01:25,570 that look out for each other. 20 00:01:25,570 --> 00:01:28,540 And with miles of sprawling countryside 21 00:01:28,540 --> 00:01:29,700 surrounding lawrenceburg, 22 00:01:29,710 --> 00:01:33,350 it attracts many nature lovers to the area, 23 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:37,380 including 36-year-old, Patricia dechristopher 24 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:39,450 and her 12-year-old daughter, Amanda. 25 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:42,150 My mom was always just looking for something, 26 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:45,550 some kind of refuge, and so we always picked up and moved. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,230 Don't you just love the trees this time of morning? 28 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:52,130 I think this is the favorite part of the day. 29 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:55,730 Mom, why did we move to the big city? 30 00:01:55,730 --> 00:01:57,200 Lawrenceburg is a big city? 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,730 It is to me. 32 00:01:58,740 --> 00:02:00,450 Okay, I can see that. 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,070 It does have a waffle house. 34 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:06,880 At that time, we had a little studio apartment, 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,080 we slept in the same bed. 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,640 I don't know how she did it, but we did. 37 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:13,220 We always kind of had our own little place, 38 00:02:13,220 --> 00:02:15,660 and we survive, you know? 39 00:02:18,450 --> 00:02:20,320 It's so beautiful. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,790 I feel so close and connected somehow. 41 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:25,860 Connected to what? 42 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:29,130 Well...connected to grandma. 43 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:34,200 Back in the late '70s, a teenage Patricia 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,300 enjoyed the solitude of nature 45 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:39,670 with her own mother, Marie huckings. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,790 Mom, why do you like the woods so much? 47 00:02:43,780 --> 00:02:47,880 Well, that's a big question 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 for so early in the morning. 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,120 It's beautiful out here, for one thing, 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,060 you can see that right? 51 00:02:56,060 --> 00:02:58,990 I guess I just feel more grounded 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,140 and in touch with nature and everything 53 00:03:00,130 --> 00:03:04,270 and everyone in my life, especially you Patricia. 54 00:03:04,270 --> 00:03:08,340 You and I will always be connected. 55 00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:11,670 And I love you so much. 56 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:16,280 I love you too, mom. 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,710 I like to hear about her. 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,530 I wish I got to know her. 59 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,790 Yeah, I know. 60 00:03:23,790 --> 00:03:25,890 Her mom passed away in '79. 61 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:27,390 My grandmother was everything to my mom. 62 00:03:27,390 --> 00:03:30,790 When she died, my mom just kind of died a little bit with her. 63 00:03:30,790 --> 00:03:35,560 It's not something that she ever wanted to talk about. 64 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:38,440 Can I run ahead? 65 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:40,340 Yeah. 66 00:03:40,340 --> 00:03:42,670 Thank you. 67 00:04:11,370 --> 00:04:14,740 Mom! Mom! 68 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:17,110 Mom! 69 00:04:19,780 --> 00:04:25,120 Come here! Come here! Stop! Stop! Stop! 70 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:26,180 Don't! 71 00:04:26,180 --> 00:04:28,720 Get off me! Get off me! 72 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,390 Lordy! You guys scared me half to death! 73 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:35,020 What? 74 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:35,660 My goodness. 75 00:04:35,660 --> 00:04:36,920 What do you mean? 76 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:40,370 I was just greeting my favorite daughter with some hugs 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,360 that she so hopefully deserves. 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,400 I'm your only daughter, dad! 79 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,970 Come here you. 80 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:48,800 Patricia had Amanda out of wedlock in the mid-'90s. 81 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:51,850 Her and Patrick met through a dating service, 82 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:54,410 and Patrick raised Amanda like she was his. 83 00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:57,110 Though 37-year-old Patrick dechristopher 84 00:04:57,110 --> 00:05:00,320 has been estranged from Patricia for some time now, 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,490 he still remains a fixture in her and Amanda's lives. 86 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:07,160 I stayed close to her, and I tried to do my best for her 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,190 and I think she understood that, 88 00:05:11,190 --> 00:05:12,330 and she was appreciative of it, 89 00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:14,860 it was obvious that losing her mother 90 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:16,830 when she lost her mother was traumatic. 91 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:20,640 I used to tell her, "you're still alive. You're here. 92 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,340 Look at what you've been through, and you're here. 93 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:24,670 I'm sorry, honey. 94 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:25,910 I got here a little earlier than we planned. 95 00:05:25,910 --> 00:05:27,140 It's fine. 96 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:30,010 Can I get at least get a tiny hug from a birthday girl? 97 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:32,850 Yeah. 98 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:37,190 Aah! 99 00:05:37,190 --> 00:05:39,750 Hey. Look what I brought you guys. 100 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:45,290 Wow. 101 00:05:45,290 --> 00:05:48,130 So, I guess that means you're staying for lunch? 102 00:05:48,130 --> 00:05:53,130 Please. Well, if you insist. 103 00:05:53,140 --> 00:05:55,280 Hey, be careful with that! 104 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:56,270 It was her birthday, 105 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:57,740 and we were talking, and I said, 106 00:05:57,740 --> 00:06:03,280 "you know, it's your birthday. Let's just spend time together." 107 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,680 -Did you eat enough cake? -No. 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,720 Okay, Mandy, I have a mission for you. 109 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,980 I want you take this and go get yourself 110 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:13,660 some snacks for tonight, and then go get your bag 111 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:14,370 from the car and come back, okay? 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,690 Okay. 113 00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:18,890 Hey, we can watch a scary movie and eat what you get. Deal? 114 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:20,370 I get to choose the movie? 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,430 I'm not going to like this, but...Okay. 116 00:06:24,430 --> 00:06:26,200 Deal! 117 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,370 Nothing was out of the ordinary, really. 118 00:06:28,370 --> 00:06:31,070 It was just an everyday occurrence. 119 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:34,480 I remember about my dad joking about her being old. 120 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,280 I think she was 35, so she was obviously not old. 121 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:41,020 You've done good. 122 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:43,650 Well, I had a lot of help... 123 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:45,090 More than I deserved. 124 00:06:45,090 --> 00:06:47,890 She was always trying to do better for herself, 125 00:06:47,890 --> 00:06:49,520 always trying to do better for Mandy. 126 00:06:49,530 --> 00:06:52,840 She used to come to me sometime and break down and tell me 127 00:06:52,830 --> 00:06:56,830 because of her issues that she was failing Mandy, 128 00:06:56,830 --> 00:06:58,800 and I always told her that she wasn't. 129 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,570 She wasn't failing her. 130 00:07:00,570 --> 00:07:04,510 Hey, you know, you can talk to me any time 131 00:07:04,510 --> 00:07:05,910 about anything. 132 00:07:05,910 --> 00:07:07,180 I'm still here. 133 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:11,680 And maybe some day, we can get past all this. 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,220 I'd love that. 135 00:07:15,220 --> 00:07:18,120 But Patricia's still not sure 136 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,450 if she's ready to talk about 137 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:20,500 what happened to her mother. 138 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:21,590 I just don't even know. 139 00:07:21,590 --> 00:07:25,730 It's just too horrifying to put into words. 140 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:32,200 It all started back in 1979 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,400 when Patricia's mom, Marie, 142 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,100 decided to dip her toe in the dating pool again. 143 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:41,820 I haven't don't this in years. 144 00:07:41,810 --> 00:07:42,780 I got you a beer. 145 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:44,010 Thanks. You're welcome. 146 00:07:44,010 --> 00:07:46,510 Marie had recently gotten divorced 147 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,190 and was starting to move on with a new part of her life. 148 00:07:49,190 --> 00:07:52,700 And Dennis Mitchell was one of the first men 149 00:07:52,690 --> 00:07:54,520 who piqued her interest. 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,460 I hear you actually hunt? 151 00:07:57,460 --> 00:08:03,260 Yeah, I hunt. 152 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:04,610 And what's wrong with that? 153 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,970 Nothing. 154 00:08:06,970 --> 00:08:08,500 Nothing. 155 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:13,210 You just don't see, like, that a lot. 156 00:08:13,210 --> 00:08:15,540 "That a lot." 157 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:18,510 Well, I bet I'm better than you. 158 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,580 A few days later, 159 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:23,780 the couple goes on a hunting date together, 160 00:08:23,790 --> 00:08:27,830 capping it off with a trip to the local watering hole. 161 00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:30,960 I thought you said you were a hunter? 162 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:36,030 Hey, lay off, okay? Yes, we came up totally empty today. 163 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:40,030 And we were out in the woods. 164 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,210 I love it out there. 165 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,110 It's so special out there. 166 00:08:44,110 --> 00:08:48,310 That gives Marie's date, Dennis, an idea. 167 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:52,410 I know a place -- quiet. 168 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:55,790 Let's take a drive in a bit. 169 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:59,330 Okay. 170 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,590 They had decided to take a drive out 171 00:09:00,590 --> 00:09:03,790 into the country away from everyone else, 172 00:09:03,790 --> 00:09:06,460 so, she left the bar with him. 173 00:09:10,770 --> 00:09:13,870 Yeah. 174 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:16,140 Why did she get in that car. 175 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:19,310 Didn't she know she wasn't supposed to do that? 176 00:09:19,310 --> 00:09:21,040 Stop. Stop. Stop. 177 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,210 There's no way she could have known 178 00:09:22,210 --> 00:09:24,780 what was going to happen in that car. Trust me. 179 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:30,320 After a 10-minute drive, Dennis and Marie 180 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,590 arrived at a remote stretch of woods 181 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:36,660 that Dennis promises is perfect for stargazing. 182 00:09:36,660 --> 00:09:40,060 Are you sure you know exactly where we're going? 183 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:43,700 Don't worry. It's right up here around this corner. 184 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:44,970 You know, I don't normally 185 00:09:44,970 --> 00:09:49,140 get in cars with strangers out in the middle of nowhere. 186 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,950 My. 187 00:09:57,950 --> 00:10:01,880 You were right. 188 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,620 I don't think I've ever seen so many stars. 189 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:10,220 This is incredible. 190 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,670 Hey, look. 191 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:26,640 This is amazing, and we're on a good path. 192 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,780 I just want to take it slower, okay? 193 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:33,210 What do you mean slow? 194 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:36,090 This is a two-way street here, Dennis. 195 00:10:36,090 --> 00:10:37,630 No, I don't know what you mean by "two-way street." 196 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:41,520 And whatever pace we're on is for me to decide, 197 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,960 that's the way it is. 198 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:59,210 It's 1979 in nicholville, New York, 199 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:02,280 and Marie huckings is suddenly seeing a new side of the man 200 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,250 she recently started dating, Dennis Mitchell. 201 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:10,790 I just want to take it slower, okay? 202 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:13,150 What do you mean slow? 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,570 This is a two-way street here, Dennis. 204 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,460 No, I don't know what you mean by "two-way street." 205 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:21,400 And whatever pace we're on is for me to decide, 206 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,830 that's the way it is. 207 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:25,230 This guy took her out in the woods, 208 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:26,700 and she was about 5'1". 209 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:30,640 This guy was a lot bigger. You're just afraid. 210 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Dennis, I'm not cool with that. 211 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,710 I don't care if you're cool with that. 212 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:36,610 Dennis, what are you doing? Stop. 213 00:11:36,610 --> 00:11:38,850 I don't want to slow down. 214 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:40,680 And we're not going to slow down. 215 00:11:49,230 --> 00:11:51,800 Whatever had happened in that moment, 216 00:11:51,790 --> 00:11:56,500 I mean, this man took, you know, great strides 217 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:59,200 into making sure that she was injured. 218 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,170 God! Please! 219 00:12:00,170 --> 00:12:01,600 In a matter of minutes, 220 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,270 Louise's hopes for a pleasant midnight stroll in the woods 221 00:12:04,270 --> 00:12:08,140 have morphed into a fight for her life. 222 00:12:08,140 --> 00:12:10,510 223 00:12:10,510 --> 00:12:12,850 Help me! 224 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Nearly 20 years later, 225 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,430 the thought of what happened to her mother 226 00:12:58,430 --> 00:13:00,490 still haunts Patricia dechristopher 227 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,810 on an almost daily basis. 228 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,740 I just have a picture her looking up at the stars. 229 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:09,600 Yeah. 230 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:11,950 I can almost feel it. 231 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:15,440 Patricia had always struggled with the fact 232 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,310 that she had lost her mother at a young age, 233 00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:22,480 didn't have that person to talk to or rely on. 234 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,090 It seemed to be very close to the surface for her. 235 00:13:27,090 --> 00:13:31,560 I just can't get it out of my mind what she was thinking. 236 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,430 I know. 237 00:13:32,430 --> 00:13:35,230 Did she know her life was ending? 238 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:44,710 Though Patricia has many questions 239 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:45,910 about her mothers murder, 240 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:50,440 who was responsible was never one of them. 241 00:13:50,450 --> 00:13:54,020 I killed that woman. 242 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:56,990 I stabbed her. 243 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:58,160 I killed that woman. 244 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:59,520 The perpetrator, after taking her out 245 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,490 and murdering her in the woods, came back to the bar. 246 00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:06,430 The people in the bar were shocked and astonished. 247 00:14:06,430 --> 00:14:08,260 Yeah, there's this guy just came in the bar. 248 00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:09,330 He's covered in blood. 249 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:12,570 He said he killed somebody. 250 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:17,470 Patty's mother was 5'2", 120 pounds, 251 00:14:17,470 --> 00:14:18,840 he comes up with this story 252 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,840 about defending himself and that she's trying to Rob him 253 00:14:22,850 --> 00:14:28,360 is why he ended up stabbing her multiple times 254 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:32,350 and leaving her out there for dead. 255 00:14:32,350 --> 00:14:36,490 Investigators see right through Dennis Mitchell's story. 256 00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:37,860 He is placed under arrest and charged with 257 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:40,230 the second degree murder of Marie huckings. 258 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:44,160 Despite a plea of insanity, he is found guilty 259 00:14:44,170 --> 00:14:47,580 and sentenced to 20 years to life. 260 00:14:47,570 --> 00:14:50,270 You have a suspect that identifies himself for you, 261 00:14:50,270 --> 00:14:51,340 covered with physical evidence. 262 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:55,410 As far as cases and murder cases go, 263 00:14:55,410 --> 00:14:56,980 that's a pretty easy case. 264 00:14:56,980 --> 00:15:00,980 Marie's daughter Patricia is left to pick up the pieces. 265 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:03,920 When her mother passed, she had nobody, literally nobody, 266 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,390 she tried to stay with different relatives, 267 00:15:05,390 --> 00:15:12,060 but that didn't work out, and she just drifted through life. 268 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:16,730 It's a sad thing, but she really and truly -- 269 00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:20,170 she had nowhere to turn, 270 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:24,170 I'm sorry this broke US up. 271 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:28,010 And I'm sorry. I just can't give past it. 272 00:15:28,010 --> 00:15:31,210 Yeah, I know. 273 00:15:31,210 --> 00:15:32,180 Me, too. 274 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:33,210 She was still married 275 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:34,660 to Patrick dechristopher at that time, 276 00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:37,050 but Patrick had, I believe, chosen to give her some space 277 00:15:37,050 --> 00:15:42,820 to help figure out where she was going with her life. 278 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:46,340 I think she struggled with just her everyday existence, 279 00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:50,600 whether it was employment social relationships, 280 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,670 she's having a tough time in life. 281 00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:53,300 Why don't you come with Mandy and me. 282 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,900 We'll continue the birthday celebration. 283 00:15:56,910 --> 00:15:57,950 Come on. It'll be fun, 284 00:15:57,940 --> 00:15:59,810 no. No. Come on. 285 00:15:59,810 --> 00:16:01,240 No, you guys go have fun, 286 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,380 I'm going to go take a nap, 287 00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:05,080 and have a casino for a couple of hours, 288 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,210 and then hill Jackson and celebrate. 289 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:09,390 I said, "you need to try to get over it. 290 00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:10,880 Get beyond it. Get past it." 291 00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:14,900 And, you know, in the the end, she just got tired of fighting. 292 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,620 "I'm going to enjoy myself. I'm going to have fun." 293 00:16:17,630 --> 00:16:21,710 As Patricia prepares for a night on the town, 294 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:25,630 Patrick and Mandy set out for a quiet movie night at home. 295 00:16:25,630 --> 00:16:28,470 Are we ready to go? Yeah, let's go. 296 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:31,310 Bye. I'll miss you. I love you. 297 00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:32,640 I love you, too. 298 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,840 All right, see you, babe. 299 00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:40,550 She turns to me and says that "I know you gave me 300 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:43,980 a better life, and I really appreciate that, 301 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:47,460 and I really and truly do love you." 302 00:16:53,130 --> 00:16:56,500 That night, Patricia heads to a local tavern 303 00:16:56,500 --> 00:17:00,070 with a friend, looking to get her mind off her troubles. 304 00:17:00,070 --> 00:17:02,470 My mom was just the life of the party. 305 00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:04,610 Whenever she, like, was in a good mood, 306 00:17:04,610 --> 00:17:09,280 she just, you know, illuminated that toward everybody. 307 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,610 She just had this aura about her that just invited people, 308 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:17,190 no matter who they were. 309 00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:21,070 Hey, young ladies. 310 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:25,890 My friend and I was wondering if we could buy you two a drink. 311 00:17:25,890 --> 00:17:27,460 While she was at her local bar called 312 00:17:27,460 --> 00:17:28,800 "hill Jackson lawrenceburg," 313 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:35,870 she ran into and met Ronald pavey and George liapis. 314 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:36,840 My friend here is turning 36 years old. 315 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,170 Carol! 316 00:17:38,170 --> 00:17:43,540 Well, hot damn, Georgie, we've got ourselves a birthday girl. 317 00:17:43,550 --> 00:17:45,390 Ladies, this is my buddy George, he don't talk much 318 00:17:45,380 --> 00:17:46,410 but I swear he is just 319 00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:48,460 the sweetest gentleman under this sun. 320 00:17:48,450 --> 00:17:52,250 Ronald pavey and George liapis were 30-something men, 321 00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:55,690 both divorced who happened to share an apartment. 322 00:17:55,690 --> 00:17:58,690 George seemed to want to ingratiate himself 323 00:17:58,690 --> 00:18:01,900 and endear himself to other people. 324 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:05,500 Ron seemed to project a tough guy image 325 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,840 that you should do what he wants you to do regardless. 326 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,510 Have you guys ever had sex on the beach? 327 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,780 The drink, the drink. The drink. 328 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:15,050 Yeah. 329 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,810 Pavey was the leader and liapis was the follower. 330 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:23,260 How about it? Well, yeah. 331 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:26,520 Yeah? We're good? Yeah. 332 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,320 Yeah? Let's do some shots. 333 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,420 Hey, Tony, hook US up. 334 00:18:29,420 --> 00:18:32,860 As the night starts to heat up for Patty 335 00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:34,130 and her new companions, 336 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:37,460 her daughter Mandy and estranged husband Patrick 337 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:39,480 are just winding down. 338 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,470 How do you watch this stuff. 339 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:45,610 It's not real. 340 00:18:45,610 --> 00:18:49,280 This one's kind of bad, but it's fun. 341 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,940 Wow, you could have fooled me. 342 00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:56,780 Dad, can I say something? 343 00:18:56,790 --> 00:18:58,600 Sure, honey, anything. 344 00:19:01,790 --> 00:19:03,020 What happened to grandma? 345 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:06,600 Like, what really happened grandma? 346 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,540 My mom never discussed her family, 347 00:19:09,530 --> 00:19:11,370 she never discussed her childhood memories. 348 00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:14,100 No matter like what was going on, where we were, 349 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,470 she did not discuss my grandmother. 350 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:20,240 It was just this family secret. 351 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,840 She misses her mom, 352 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,250 but grandma is watching out for all of US 353 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:27,850 and that makes her feel better. 354 00:19:27,850 --> 00:19:32,390 And she's got you which makes her feel really better. 355 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:36,160 Mandy was awfully young, she was very, very young. 356 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,130 I wanted to let her know up front 357 00:19:38,130 --> 00:19:40,360 that her mother was there for her 358 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:44,100 in spite of whatever issues that she may have had. 359 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,100 Back at the bar, it's getting late. 360 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:50,400 But Patricia doesn't seem ready for the party to end. 361 00:19:50,410 --> 00:19:54,890 Let's call it a night. No, it's my birthday. 362 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,040 What makes me upset the most 363 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,880 is that's when she was really doing well, 364 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,680 like she wasn't, you know, having the issues, 365 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,590 she was making better friends, 366 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:07,650 she wanted to socialize. 367 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:08,830 Just one more drink. 368 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:12,290 No, look, you're either going with me now 369 00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:13,460 or you're going to promise me 370 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:16,660 that you'll stay here for the last drink, 371 00:20:16,670 --> 00:20:20,740 and, then, you'll go straight home. 372 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:22,050 Alone. 373 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,300 I promise. 374 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:29,420 She seemed to be naive in her trust of people. 375 00:20:29,410 --> 00:20:32,380 And put herself in circumstances 376 00:20:32,380 --> 00:20:33,910 that were dangerous circumstances 377 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560 for a young, single woman. 378 00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,420 There we are. 379 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:44,590 Okay, guys, thank you. 380 00:20:44,590 --> 00:20:46,590 But I'm going to head home. 381 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,070 I'm work tomorrow. Pbbbttthh. 382 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:53,180 Happy birthday. Ooh! 383 00:20:53,170 --> 00:20:54,800 See you guys later. 384 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,100 Yeah, great meeting you. 385 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,740 Now, with Patricia all to themselves, 386 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:00,840 Ronald pavey and George liapis 387 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,840 are only too happy to keep the party going. 388 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:04,990 To the birthday girl, 389 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:09,250 may this be the most memorable birthday 390 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:10,980 of your entire life. 391 00:21:10,990 --> 00:21:12,560 Cheers. Cheers. 392 00:21:27,540 --> 00:21:29,150 Hey, hey, hey. 393 00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:33,240 The night of Patricia dechristopher's 36th birthday 394 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,410 is coming to an end. 395 00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:38,550 Happy birthday. 396 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:40,150 -See you guys later. -Yeah, great meeting you. 397 00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:44,220 But her new friends, Ronald pavey and George liapis, 398 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:46,350 aren't ready to say goodbye just yet. 399 00:21:46,350 --> 00:21:48,390 -Cheers. -Cheers. 400 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,840 As the night wears on, Ron and George grow tired of the bar, 401 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,070 they try to convince Patricia to leave with them 402 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:07,340 by offering to take her to a special place. 403 00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:10,110 Come on, you -- you got to come out there 404 00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:11,580 with US, it'll be fun, really. 405 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:12,780 Look it's a really cool place, 406 00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:15,650 you'll feel like you're on a whole different planet. 407 00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:16,820 Look at Georgie over here 408 00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:19,750 trying to sound like a poet or something. 409 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:22,390 It's just a spot up at upper Grant's creek, 410 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:26,330 but it's one that not that many people know about. 411 00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:31,700 I love going into the woods, looking up at the stars. 412 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:38,310 My. 413 00:22:40,810 --> 00:22:45,380 Patricia, Patricia, hey. 414 00:22:45,380 --> 00:22:46,810 Well? 415 00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:51,060 I'll be back in a minute, I've got to get a glass of water. 416 00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:59,260 Hey, Tony? 417 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:01,460 I don't feel too great, 418 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:04,330 I want to call Patrick and get a ride home. 419 00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:06,230 You got a number? Yeah. 420 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:08,030 Can I get a glass of water? 421 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,380 Yeah, sure. 422 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:16,510 My sense was that the bartenders recognized 423 00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:17,810 that Patricia was intoxicated 424 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:21,720 and that it was probably not a good situation for her. 425 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,090 Yeah, can you come to the bar and pick her up? 426 00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:27,390 Sorry, I got a machine. 427 00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:31,190 I'll keep trying, but is there anybody else I can call? 428 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:33,130 No, I'll be fine. 429 00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:36,100 I'm feeling much better already. 430 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,930 I'll get home myself. 431 00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:41,470 If she would have called just another number that she had, 432 00:23:41,470 --> 00:23:42,640 I would have went and got her. 433 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,140 She didn't, she gave my office number out. 434 00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:51,240 So, what do you think? 435 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:56,590 Rendezvous under the stars, it's a nice night. 436 00:23:56,580 --> 00:23:58,050 You know what... 437 00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:01,350 ...it sounds like a fun way to wrap up my birthday. 438 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,600 Now we're talking. 439 00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:09,000 But wait guys, you cannot tell Carol, she'll kill me. 440 00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:14,670 Our lips are sealed. 441 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:16,140 Let's rumble. 442 00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:25,210 Where are we? 443 00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:29,350 Are you sure you know exactly where we're going? 444 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:34,590 Don't you worry, it's gonna be a birthday to remember. 445 00:24:34,590 --> 00:24:37,060 Whatever pace we're on is for me to decide. 446 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,890 Though Patricia is too tipsy to realize it, 447 00:24:39,890 --> 00:24:43,460 the two men don't take her directly to the woods. 448 00:24:43,470 --> 00:24:46,840 They first make a stop at Ron and George's apartment 449 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,880 where events get wildly out of hand. 450 00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:58,080 She was beyond tipsy and pretty intoxicated 451 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,380 and they were taking advantage of her. 452 00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:03,520 In her state, in her condition. 453 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,150 Within the hour, the trio is back in the car, 454 00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:08,620 and as they head farther and farther from town 455 00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:13,060 Patricia has no idea how much time has passed 456 00:25:13,060 --> 00:25:14,230 or how far they're going, 457 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:17,500 but one thing's for certain -- she's in danger. 458 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:23,000 Hey, you can't fall asleep before the party's over. 459 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Hey. 460 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:30,540 Snap, flash, I took your picture. 461 00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:31,920 Add that to the collection. 462 00:25:31,910 --> 00:25:33,480 Yeah. 463 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,650 Ron, seriously, where we going, man? 464 00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:38,950 Keep driving, 465 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:40,950 I'll tell you when to stop. 466 00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:51,260 How you doing birthday girl? 467 00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,880 I feel woozy. 468 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:56,700 Where are we? 469 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,370 We're here. Let's go. 470 00:26:02,410 --> 00:26:05,750 They ended up in this remote area of Switzerland county 471 00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:09,020 on a road that runs alongside a creek. 472 00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:13,490 You're immediately struck by the remoteness of the area, 473 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:17,660 by the sense that if you are an individual out there 474 00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:23,400 with a person or people who intend to do you harm, 475 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600 you don't have a lot of options. 476 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,130 Hey, how you all doing back there? 477 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:30,610 We're fine. 478 00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:35,120 What time is it? It feels way later. 479 00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:36,240 We came straight out here, 480 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,710 you don't remember when we left the bar? 481 00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:42,280 I don't know, I just feel weird. 482 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,020 Like it's been hours or something. 483 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:49,020 Gosh, she doesn't remember anything, Romeo. 484 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:53,990 Wow... 485 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:57,800 Wow, these are... 486 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,900 The stars are beautiful tonight. 487 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:04,640 You guys are right, this place is special. 488 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,970 But Ron and George didn't bring Patricia out here 489 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:09,120 to look at the stars -- 490 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:11,040 they came to make sure that what happened 491 00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:14,390 back at the apartment never gets out. 492 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:19,690 Well, now I have one final birthday gift for you. 493 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,520 Stop! 494 00:27:24,530 --> 00:27:26,500 Stay down. 495 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:28,500 Ron, get up, get up. 496 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,300 Ron, get off! 497 00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:34,930 Back off! 498 00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:37,410 Why did you just do that? 499 00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:40,120 Just a minute. 500 00:27:40,110 --> 00:27:41,710 She's dead. 501 00:27:41,710 --> 00:27:43,080 Thinking their troubles are over, 502 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080 George and Ron start heading out of the woods. 503 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,680 But Patricia dechristopher isn't dead, 504 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,050 and she seizes the opportunity 505 00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:51,890 to make a run for it. 506 00:28:09,070 --> 00:28:12,110 Now, like her mother two decades before, 507 00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:17,180 Patricia dechristopher falls prey to a violent predator. 508 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:21,280 This person spent the last several years 509 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,450 being verbally abusive and intimidating, 510 00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,390 and she just happened to be that last person. 511 00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:31,060 It gave him an excuse to do what he had been wanting to do 512 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:34,460 for a long time -- which was kill someone. 513 00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:55,620 Patricia, you and I will always be connected. 514 00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:56,920 The situation with her mother 515 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,320 in St. Regis falls in New York 20 years earlier 516 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,690 was so strikingly similar, 517 00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:05,190 just astonishing at that point. 518 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:07,430 Could there be some connection beyond the fact 519 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:12,570 that they were murdered in similar fashions? 520 00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:13,600 It was shocking. 521 00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:27,150 You guys are right, this place is special. 522 00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:32,520 Well, now, I have one final birthday present for you. 523 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,820 Ushered into the Ohio wilderness 524 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:37,390 by two men she met at a bar, 525 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:42,460 Patricia dechristopher's life has just come to a violent end. 526 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:48,850 Multiple injuries to her neck where her throat was cut. 527 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,640 Nearly decapitated. 528 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,510 This was the release of energy and anger. 529 00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:57,540 Back off! 530 00:29:57,550 --> 00:29:58,760 Three days pass 531 00:29:58,750 --> 00:30:00,810 without Patricia's estranged husband Patrick 532 00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:07,630 having any idea that his wife has been murdered. 533 00:30:07,620 --> 00:30:08,890 But deep down... 534 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:09,760 Hey, Carol, it's Patrick. 535 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,160 ...he knows something is wrong. 536 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,230 I drove around to the places where I thought she might be 537 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:16,330 but I couldn't find her. 538 00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:18,430 For three days, I couldn't find her. 539 00:30:18,430 --> 00:30:25,070 I see, you haven't heard from her either? 540 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:27,140 Okay, well, let me know. 541 00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:30,840 I didn't want to bother her because it was her life, 542 00:30:30,850 --> 00:30:36,460 and so I waited. 543 00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:37,780 And then in the meantime, 544 00:30:37,790 --> 00:30:41,130 in my heart knowing that it wasn't -- wasn't right. 545 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,390 You got everything you need for school? 546 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:48,430 Hey, have you heard from your mom since her birthday? 547 00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:49,560 No. 548 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,860 Maybe she was off doing something else, 549 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:53,710 maybe she took a couple days and went away, you know. 550 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:55,670 I just didn't know, you know? 551 00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:58,840 And I didn't want to jump the gun on it. 552 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,270 Bye. 553 00:31:00,270 --> 00:31:02,380 Bye, sweetie. Have a good day. 554 00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:03,480 Okay. 555 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,050 Then, less than 24-hours later, 556 00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:09,820 a woman out for a walk in the woods 557 00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:16,660 makes a shocking discovery. 558 00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:24,000 She actually saw Patricia's body, and, so, obviously, 559 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,030 she had returned to her home and contacted the police. 560 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,110 When officers arrive on the scene, 561 00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:32,180 it's clear they have a homicide, 562 00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:34,670 but the victim's identity is a mystery. 563 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,520 The victim didn't have any identification on her body. 564 00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:41,210 So the first task at hand was to determine who this was? 565 00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:42,890 The only form of identification -- 566 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,590 or the only lead we got at the scene 567 00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:49,490 was a couple of tickets in the back pants pocket 568 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,890 of a pair of cut-off blue jeans 569 00:31:50,890 --> 00:31:56,300 and those were tickets, boarding passes for the local casino. 570 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,730 Me and a couple of the other detectives 571 00:31:58,730 --> 00:32:00,070 were going to to the argosy casino, 572 00:32:00,070 --> 00:32:02,870 try to identify based upon the times on the tickets 573 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:05,070 and that was our plan. 574 00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:07,040 And before we got to the casino, 575 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440 I got a call from the state police post that said, 576 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,540 "you might want to swing by lawrenceburg p.D." 577 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:15,120 At the station, detective Stan tressler 578 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,490 is greeted by Patrick dechristopher. 579 00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:18,960 I can't believe this. 580 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:23,920 That Thursday, April 8th... 581 00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:25,540 She was due back at work 582 00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,660 and I called work, and I said, "did Patty show up today?" 583 00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:29,930 And her boss said no, and I said, 584 00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:33,470 "something's wrong. Something's terribly wrong." 585 00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:34,500 Investigators are convinced 586 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:35,970 they have identified their Jane Doe 587 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:39,970 but ask for Patrick's help just to be sure. 588 00:32:39,970 --> 00:32:41,670 This can't be, man. 589 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,250 I can't believe this is happening again. 590 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:48,490 This can't be. 591 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,750 Sorry, you had to see her like that. 592 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:54,990 What do you mean again? 593 00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:57,220 He gives US this envelope 594 00:32:57,230 --> 00:32:59,070 that has newspapers clippings 595 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:01,830 and copies of newspapers clippings 596 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:04,360 of Patricia's mother's murder. 597 00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:11,380 It happened when she was a young girl in New York. 598 00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:15,440 And I'm trying to process this stuff. 599 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:22,080 This is hard to believe. I know. 600 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,320 I can't wrap my head around it, man. 601 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Her birthday was just a few days ago. 602 00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:35,810 You know where she was headed? 603 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,200 Casino. The hilljacks. 604 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,670 He'd had a couple stressful days looking for her, 605 00:33:43,670 --> 00:33:48,140 and I think he just realized that that nagging feeling 606 00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:50,410 that he had was for a reason. 607 00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:53,710 We had a good feeling about his responses, 608 00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:55,720 his appropriate responses to the news 609 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:03,020 and how he presented about how he felt about what occurred. 610 00:34:03,020 --> 00:34:04,260 Though Patrick dechristopher 611 00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:07,530 is immediately scratched off the suspect list, 612 00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:08,690 he must now face the terrible reality 613 00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:13,910 that his wife and Mandy's mother is gone. 614 00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,840 What am I going to tell Mandy, man? 615 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,370 I had to tell Mandy that her mother was gone. 616 00:34:19,370 --> 00:34:22,910 Hardest -- one of the hardest things I've ever done. 617 00:34:22,910 --> 00:34:27,450 My dad comes in and he's like, "they found mom," 618 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:29,180 and I just said, "she's dead, isn't she?" 619 00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:30,520 And he says, "yes." 620 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,490 And I remember he just -- he immediately starts crying 621 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:36,520 and, you know, time just completely stops. 622 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,190 You just go cold. I didn't feel anything. 623 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:44,160 I didn't cry, I didn't feel upset, I didn't feel angry. 624 00:34:44,170 --> 00:34:45,370 I just felt out of my body. 625 00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:48,410 I felt like "this is a dream, this isn't real." 626 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,670 You just want it all to go away. 627 00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:52,810 Meantime, detectives turn their attention to the bar 628 00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:55,910 where Patricia was last known to be headed. 629 00:34:55,910 --> 00:34:59,050 Individuals who had been at the bar who had seen 630 00:34:59,050 --> 00:35:01,950 Patricia dechristopher leaving that evening 631 00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:03,150 were able to provide 632 00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:07,250 very specific descriptions of the two men. 633 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:10,060 We were able to gather sufficient evidence 634 00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:10,990 to establish that probable cause 635 00:35:10,990 --> 00:35:12,130 to get that search warrant. 636 00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:15,830 Warrant in hand, officers arrive at the apartment 637 00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:19,330 of Ronald pavey and George liapis. 638 00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:20,500 Excuse me, could you tell your boys 639 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,300 to be a little bit more careful with that? 640 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:23,100 Sit down. 641 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,040 I know my rights! 642 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,240 I don't care if you've got a warrant. 643 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:27,640 You just can't come in here messing up my place. 644 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,610 Didn't I tell you to sit your ass down? 645 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,480 You think this is a game? 646 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,350 You need to focus on what's important here. 647 00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:38,820 You know a woman named Patricia. 648 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:42,860 Who? Patricia dechristopher. 649 00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:44,120 No. "No," what? 650 00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:47,040 No, I don't know who you're talking about. 651 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:48,090 Never met her? 652 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,770 He just told you, man, what do you want? 653 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:57,870 Shut up. Never. 654 00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:03,380 Let's get these two to the station -- separately. 655 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:07,380 No problem. 656 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:10,380 Make sure they don't move, especially that guy. 657 00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:14,620 As officers take the two men in for further questioning, 658 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:15,690 inside the apartment, 659 00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:18,060 detectives find plenty of evidence 660 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:19,730 to implicate their suspects. 661 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:21,060 Justin's girlfriend said 662 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,300 that the guy was wearing a black leather jacket, correct? 663 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:27,970 Yeah. 664 00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:30,970 Is that blood? Yes, sir, sure is. 665 00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:32,970 Let's test that, now. All right. 666 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:36,280 What else? Found this. 667 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:42,090 Our crime scene tech decided the camera's got film -- 668 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,120 undeveloped film in it -- 669 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,180 and it's sitting here on a shelf. 670 00:36:44,190 --> 00:36:47,130 And I interpret this search warrant 671 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,420 and I read this search warrant 672 00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:50,420 that I can collect anything that's latent evidence 673 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:52,560 or that I believe is latent evidence 674 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,630 based upon my experience. 675 00:36:56,630 --> 00:37:03,940 I wonder what's on that? Yeah, me too. 676 00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:18,020 Days after 36-year-old Patricia dechristopher's body 677 00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:20,290 is found in the remote Indiana wilderness, 678 00:37:20,290 --> 00:37:23,890 detectives are wondering if a disposable camera 679 00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:26,290 found in the apartment of two local men 680 00:37:26,290 --> 00:37:27,460 might shed some light on the case. 681 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:30,800 That camera had a roll of undeveloped film. 682 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,860 Sometimes people who commit crimes 683 00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:35,880 actually take photographs of their work. 684 00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:39,470 So, on that basis, we got the film developed. 685 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:42,280 And when the photos come back, 686 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,340 they bring the grizzly details 687 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:46,580 of that faithful night into sharp focus. 688 00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:49,020 Lo and behold, we had a picture 689 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,750 of Patricia dechristopher and Ronald pavey 690 00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:55,350 in the apartment on that particular evening. 691 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,500 When we saw 692 00:37:56,490 --> 00:37:58,490 Patricia dechristopher and Ronald pavey 693 00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:59,560 together in a photo, 694 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,930 on the evening before she was murdered, 695 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:04,730 that was the point in which I said, 696 00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:05,970 "we have the right people." 697 00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:08,000 And there's one photo in particular 698 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,070 that tells police all they need to know 699 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:12,940 about what happened in the apartment that night. 700 00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:16,640 That photograph depicts Patricia on the floor 701 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,350 on her knees in the living room, disrobed from the waist down 702 00:38:22,350 --> 00:38:23,480 and it's got Ron pavey behind her 703 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:30,560 wearing a bathrobe and nothing else on. 704 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,890 In the foreground of the picture 705 00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:35,900 you see a pair of blue jeans and legs, and it appeared 706 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:40,170 that George liapis was laid way back on a couch 707 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,970 and was trying to capture this image. 708 00:38:43,970 --> 00:38:45,740 That photograph was going to be a trophy. 709 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:49,710 That photograph was going to be bragging rights with somebody. 710 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:50,940 Wow. 711 00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:53,490 It was going to be a story that would be retold 712 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,750 about a conquest they had. 713 00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:56,720 Confronted with the evidence, 714 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,490 George liapis immediately changes his story 715 00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:02,560 admitting that not only does he know Patricia, 716 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,430 he had sex with her that night in the apartment. 717 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:10,230 He indicated that sex was consensual 718 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:11,500 and that at some point, 719 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:18,500 Ron pavey had been interested in engaging in sex 720 00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:19,580 with Patricia dechristopher 721 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,780 and that she had rebuffed his advances. 722 00:39:23,780 --> 00:39:24,880 Pavey's angry, visibly angry. 723 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,910 He goes into his apartment and yells, 724 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,090 "we're going to kill her." 725 00:39:33,050 --> 00:39:34,250 Pavey's argument is 726 00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:38,270 she's going to accuse him of rape at that point. 727 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:41,360 Feel like he was looking for an excuse, 728 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,730 he needed to satisfy that anger response 729 00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:46,600 that he had that had been building up for so many years. 730 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,500 Boy, the opposite -- that feeling returned like, 731 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:53,440 "no, he's really going to do this." 732 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,710 Ronald pavey is convicted 733 00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:56,540 of the first-degree murder of Patricia dechristopher 734 00:39:56,540 --> 00:40:00,250 and sentenced to 65 years in prison. 735 00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:01,780 For testifying against pavey, 736 00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:03,220 George liapis receives a lesser charge 737 00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:06,420 of aiding in a murder and assisting a criminal 738 00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:11,560 and is sentenced to 30 years in prison. 739 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,260 Outside the courthouse of their pre-trial hearing, 740 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:17,030 Patrick dechristopher comes face-to-face 741 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:18,900 with his wife's ruthless killers. 742 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,130 I'm at the bottom of the steps 743 00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:22,510 with a .45 in my pocket. 744 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,470 He came right down the steps within three feet of me 745 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:30,610 and I was going to blow his brains out. 746 00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:32,850 But then I thought about Mandy. 747 00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:37,380 And I could just see Patty telling me -- 748 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,950 "what's Mandy going to do?" 749 00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:42,760 I just could see her holding Mandy's hand and telling me, 750 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,660 "what's Mandy going to do if you do this?" 751 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,530 And I stopped. 752 00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:51,430 My dad was just heartbroken when my mom passed away 753 00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:55,470 and he could have sent me up to New York with a relative. 754 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:56,670 I was not legally binded to him, you know, 755 00:40:56,670 --> 00:41:00,540 and he's still stepped up and took care of me, 756 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,610 and, so, that's what matters. 757 00:41:01,610 --> 00:41:04,380 I think that I am proud mostly of my dad 758 00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:09,680 for not falling away when she passed away. 759 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:18,490 Your mom was right, it is beautiful out here. 760 00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:20,330 Dad... 761 00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:25,700 Is what happened to mom going to happen to me? 762 00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:33,380 My friends are the ones that kind of made me realize like, 763 00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:34,670 "yeah, it's kind of weird 764 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,620 that your mom and your grandmother were both murdered," 765 00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:40,310 and it really frightened me 766 00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:44,380 because what if there's the self-fulfilling prophecy 767 00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:46,560 and like I'm going to be next? 768 00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:49,520 No, Mandy. 769 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920 It is not going to happen to you. 770 00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,580 I really miss her. I know. I do, too. 771 00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:01,770 You always try to search 772 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:03,540 for some good things out at cases like this. 773 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:07,640 Sometimes it's difficult to find good things. 774 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,710 But because of the human being and person 775 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:12,980 that Patrick dechristopher is, 776 00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:14,150 how he was before Patricia's murder 777 00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:17,520 and what he's continued to do since her murder 778 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,720 with Patricia's daughter Amanda 779 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:24,020 has likely broken the chain in this family, 780 00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:26,330 a tragic event. 781 00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:29,460 Life's different now, life's good, you know, 782 00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:31,660 it's just a different set of stresses than what, you know. 783 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:33,880 But those stresses I went through with Patty, 784 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:37,600 she taught me how to go through the stresses now in life. 785 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,170 So, it was a win-win, 786 00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:46,310 the only problem is that she's not here to see it. 59101

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