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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,058 --> 00:00:04,463 This programme contains strong language, scenes of nudity 2 00:00:04,488 --> 00:00:06,393 and discussions and images of a sexual nature 3 00:00:06,418 --> 00:00:08,983 My nub. Er... It doesn't have a name. Could be cock. Cock. Cock. 4 00:00:09,008 --> 00:00:12,903 Cock. Can't remember what I call them on Grindr. Probably penis. Maybe dick. Probably just click. 5 00:00:12,928 --> 00:00:15,263 My dick. My dick. Dick. Dick. Dick. It's mainly click. 6 00:00:15,288 --> 00:00:18,263 The one that weirds me out the most is willy, over the age of childhood. 7 00:00:18,288 --> 00:00:21,033 There's not many hot, sexy words for penis. 8 00:00:31,168 --> 00:00:34,313 You've got this squishy piece of meat between your legs, 9 00:00:34,338 --> 00:00:38,672 and it's the centre of pleasure and it's this symbol of masculinity 10 00:00:38,697 --> 00:00:40,573 and of who you are as a man. 11 00:00:40,598 --> 00:00:42,953 There's all these attachments of power, of insecurity. 12 00:00:42,978 --> 00:00:45,313 And it's physically right at the centre of you 13 00:00:45,338 --> 00:00:48,863 and, in so many ways, at the centre of who you are as a man. 14 00:00:48,888 --> 00:00:51,783 It's a lot for this little squishy thing. 15 00:00:51,808 --> 00:00:54,752 Well, for this squishy thing. HE LAUGHS 16 00:00:56,888 --> 00:00:59,393 Every penis is different and not all penises are straight. 17 00:00:59,418 --> 00:01:01,223 Some of them bend, some them tilt upwards, 18 00:01:01,248 --> 00:01:03,542 some of them are kind of thick at one end. 19 00:01:03,567 --> 00:01:04,933 Like, they're all very different. 20 00:01:04,958 --> 00:01:08,033 It's quite fun to kind of make it do the helicopter thing. 21 00:01:10,338 --> 00:01:12,583 I'm yet to take off, but it kind of... 22 00:01:17,088 --> 00:01:19,422 Having a nub at times can be annoying. 23 00:01:19,447 --> 00:01:21,063 I'm always crossing my legs cos it's comfortable, 24 00:01:21,088 --> 00:01:23,393 and I always think, "Where do I put my dick?" 25 00:01:23,418 --> 00:01:25,343 Underneath or do I put it on top? 26 00:01:25,368 --> 00:01:28,343 I find that it has got a mind of its own. 27 00:01:28,368 --> 00:01:30,672 It'll be awake when I'm tired, 28 00:01:30,697 --> 00:01:33,393 it'll be awake all the time practically. 29 00:01:33,418 --> 00:01:35,313 I actually think that my dick is boss. 30 00:01:35,338 --> 00:01:37,833 You know, clays where I need to get stuff done 31 00:01:37,858 --> 00:01:40,193 and I'm just, like, so horny I can't concentrate. 32 00:01:40,218 --> 00:01:41,833 I actually think my dick is in control. 33 00:01:46,138 --> 00:01:49,302 My name's Ajamu and I'm an artist. 34 00:01:50,728 --> 00:01:54,653 I grew up in Huddersfield, surrounded by a macho culture. 35 00:01:55,728 --> 00:01:58,863 I was all set for a career in the army. 36 00:01:58,888 --> 00:02:01,502 But by 21, I had other plans. 37 00:02:02,577 --> 00:02:06,313 I became passionate about photography, 38 00:02:06,338 --> 00:02:08,302 and that was my way out. 39 00:02:09,327 --> 00:02:11,703 I wanted to fuck with the rules. 40 00:02:12,777 --> 00:02:15,913 And create images of men I hadn't seen before. 41 00:02:18,608 --> 00:02:22,143 20 years ago, the police stopped this image being shown 42 00:02:22,168 --> 00:02:23,913 in a public gallery. 43 00:02:23,938 --> 00:02:26,263 It was considered too explicit. 44 00:02:27,688 --> 00:02:30,223 And I don't think we've moved on enough since then. 45 00:02:31,577 --> 00:02:33,422 Penises are still taboo, 46 00:02:33,447 --> 00:02:35,393 and I want to change that. 47 00:02:35,418 --> 00:02:37,113 Hold it right there, do not move. 48 00:02:37,138 --> 00:02:39,473 Just close your eyes for me on this one. 49 00:02:39,498 --> 00:02:42,552 In this film, men will talk openly about their penises 50 00:02:42,577 --> 00:02:45,863 and how it makes them feel about being a man. 51 00:02:47,418 --> 00:02:49,223 And I will be photographing some of them 52 00:02:49,248 --> 00:02:51,552 as they confront their own masculinity. 53 00:02:51,577 --> 00:02:53,833 HE SCREAMS 54 00:02:53,858 --> 00:02:55,393 Through the portraits I will make, 55 00:02:55,418 --> 00:02:59,193 I want them to rethink the way they see their penises and themselves. 56 00:02:59,218 --> 00:03:02,833 It feels powerful to be stood here nude, naked, 57 00:03:02,858 --> 00:03:04,133 and I'm owning it. 58 00:03:05,577 --> 00:03:07,913 And challenge the taboo we still feel 59 00:03:07,938 --> 00:03:11,343 around the beauty and power of the erection. 60 00:03:19,407 --> 00:03:22,663 I don't think there's a bloke out there who hasn't sneaked a look, 61 00:03:22,688 --> 00:03:25,223 but you can't ever be caught looking. That's not good, that. 62 00:03:25,248 --> 00:03:27,143 Everyone can see what's going on down there, 63 00:03:27,168 --> 00:03:28,583 even if you don't directly look. 64 00:03:28,608 --> 00:03:30,863 I think boys are obsessed about size 65 00:03:30,888 --> 00:03:32,833 and who's got the biggest penis. 66 00:03:32,858 --> 00:03:35,143 I don't know if you can ever be truly happy 67 00:03:35,168 --> 00:03:36,632 with the size of your dick, 68 00:03:36,657 --> 00:03:39,302 I feel like you want it to be a bit bigger. 69 00:03:39,327 --> 00:03:41,863 I used to worry about it when I was a teenager, 70 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:44,223 cos everyone lies about the size of their click. 71 00:03:44,248 --> 00:03:46,913 I'd be like, "Maybe mine's tiny, oh, my God." 72 00:03:46,938 --> 00:03:49,273 I think it's difficult if you're a straight man, 73 00:03:49,298 --> 00:03:51,143 when you only ever see other people's flaccid penises, 74 00:03:51,168 --> 00:03:53,502 because that's not when everyone's at their best! 75 00:03:53,527 --> 00:03:55,863 And actually, even when it's sort of flaccid, 76 00:03:55,888 --> 00:03:57,502 it can sometimes be smaller or larger, 77 00:03:57,527 --> 00:03:59,833 depending, I suppose, on maybe atmospheric pressure 78 00:03:59,858 --> 00:04:01,223 or just... vibes. 79 00:04:01,248 --> 00:04:03,583 It's weird how weird we are about them, 80 00:04:03,608 --> 00:04:05,943 cos you can't get mad about your nose. 81 00:04:05,968 --> 00:04:09,752 Cos I think so much of our self—worth is based around that. 82 00:04:09,777 --> 00:04:13,422 Like, if somebody's acting out, you'll be like, "Aw, he's got a tiny penis." 83 00:04:13,447 --> 00:04:15,783 It's like, "Has he? Or is he just a dickhead?" 84 00:04:15,808 --> 00:04:17,632 At school, some people would get bullied for, 85 00:04:17,657 --> 00:04:20,552 "Aw, he's got a little dick," or "He's got a small dick," 86 00:04:20,577 --> 00:04:24,273 even if no-one had seen it, it was just a really powerful way of emasculating someone. 87 00:04:24,298 --> 00:04:27,502 I think you then carry that into your adulthood, 88 00:04:27,527 --> 00:04:30,833 and you're still weighing yourself up against people for ridiculous reasons. 89 00:04:30,858 --> 00:04:35,273 I can't understand people who aren't fine about the size of their penis, for God's sake. 90 00:04:35,298 --> 00:04:37,552 I was born with a penis and that's it. Done. 91 00:04:42,018 --> 00:04:43,783 I think the first time I masturbated, 92 00:04:43,808 --> 00:04:46,103 I was probably around the age of about eight. 93 00:04:46,128 --> 00:04:49,143 I was... ten. 11, 12? 94 00:04:49,168 --> 00:04:50,993 I reckon I was about 15. 95 00:04:51,018 --> 00:04:52,223 11, or so? 96 00:04:52,248 --> 00:04:53,863 I was three years old. 97 00:04:53,888 --> 00:04:56,632 Obviously not much happened. 98 00:04:56,657 --> 00:04:59,223 I found some pornography. I don't know whose it was, 99 00:04:59,248 --> 00:05:03,993 it was stashed in a bush and in my head I remember it being French. 100 00:05:05,378 --> 00:05:08,143 I don't know how French pornography's ended up in a town, 101 00:05:08,168 --> 00:05:10,863 a park bush in Telford, but... 102 00:05:10,888 --> 00:05:16,273 And it was a brunette woman and she was sitting on a dildo. 103 00:05:16,298 --> 00:05:20,663 And that was, like, a go-to thing for years. 104 00:05:20,688 --> 00:05:24,273 It's, like, imprinted into my mind's eye now. 105 00:05:24,298 --> 00:05:27,302 I remember it very well, cos I drew blood. 106 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:28,502 I kind of hit it. 107 00:05:28,527 --> 00:05:32,073 Just hit it from side to side and it felt really nice after a while, 108 00:05:32,098 --> 00:05:34,713 and I thought that's how you did it for so long. 109 00:05:34,738 --> 00:05:37,073 I came for the first time, although nothing came out. 110 00:05:37,098 --> 00:05:39,632 And I actually thought my dick was on fire or burning, 111 00:05:39,657 --> 00:05:42,432 and I remember running out of my bedroom, running down the hall, 112 00:05:42,457 --> 00:05:44,793 and running into the bathroom with my dick hanging out 113 00:05:44,818 --> 00:05:47,793 and putting it in the sink and running a cold tap on it. 114 00:05:47,818 --> 00:05:49,223 I just remember this experience 115 00:05:49,248 --> 00:05:51,552 of this adrenaline pumping round my body, 116 00:05:51,577 --> 00:05:53,353 and I couldn't get enough of it. 117 00:05:53,378 --> 00:05:56,223 It sent tingles through my body and down my leg and everything. 118 00:05:56,248 --> 00:05:58,193 I remember talking to a friend and going, 119 00:05:58,218 --> 00:06:00,502 "If everybody masturbates, why don't we just talk about it?" 120 00:06:00,527 --> 00:06:02,223 And he went, "Sh! Don't say that!" 121 00:06:02,248 --> 00:06:05,103 I got really into it for a while. Way too into it. 122 00:06:05,128 --> 00:06:06,793 I must have wanked 15, 16 times... 123 00:06:06,818 --> 00:06:07,993 Nothing else enters your mind. 124 00:06:08,018 --> 00:06:11,153 I didn't stop at one, I think I did it a few times. 125 00:06:11,178 --> 00:06:13,993 Had to double-check, triple—check that it wasn't a fucking one—off. 126 00:06:16,098 --> 00:06:18,432 Grew up in quite a religious household. 127 00:06:18,457 --> 00:06:22,943 I first masturbated probably when I was about maybe 11 or so. 128 00:06:22,968 --> 00:06:26,743 And for years, masturbation, for me, 129 00:06:26,768 --> 00:06:30,432 felt like something that was wrong. 130 00:06:33,298 --> 00:06:37,273 I grew up in quite a conservative Muslim family in Bradford. 131 00:06:37,298 --> 00:06:40,073 We went on pilgrimage and we were taken to mosque 132 00:06:40,098 --> 00:06:42,823 to learn to read Arabic and learn to read the Koran. 133 00:06:42,848 --> 00:06:45,583 That's shaped so much of who I am now, 134 00:06:45,608 --> 00:06:48,073 and how I live my day-to-day life. 135 00:06:50,378 --> 00:06:52,873 Within my family, sex just did not exist. 136 00:06:52,898 --> 00:06:56,463 The closest I ever had was, like, a small handbook 137 00:06:56,488 --> 00:06:58,273 I got given by my mum_ 138 00:06:58,298 --> 00:07:02,993 It was A Young Muslim's Guide To Puberty, or something. 139 00:07:03,018 --> 00:07:05,302 And in there it was like, um, 140 00:07:05,327 --> 00:07:08,382 something about masturbation and going to hell. 141 00:07:08,407 --> 00:07:13,583 So obviously when I was 13, 14, 15, and super randy, 142 00:07:13,608 --> 00:07:15,382 that became an issue. 143 00:07:15,407 --> 00:07:18,273 So to stop myself from ejaculating — 144 00:07:18,298 --> 00:07:21,073 which would, in my mind, kind of complete the wank, 145 00:07:21,098 --> 00:07:23,382 and make it then like a full—blown sin — 146 00:07:23,407 --> 00:07:25,153 I'd grip my penis really hard, 147 00:07:25,178 --> 00:07:28,382 or just physically try and stop myself from ejaculating. 148 00:07:28,407 --> 00:07:33,663 Um... which led to kind of physical scarring, physical damage. 149 00:07:35,298 --> 00:07:37,873 I have a lot of negative associations with it now, 150 00:07:37,898 --> 00:07:39,073 so it's a tricky thing. 151 00:07:39,098 --> 00:07:41,873 What should just be pleasurable, what should just be so simple, 152 00:07:41,898 --> 00:07:44,593 and then sometimes there's still that guilt, 153 00:07:44,618 --> 00:07:48,463 or sometimes I hate how my dick looks, 154 00:07:48,488 --> 00:07:52,432 or I don't want to touch it, or I don't like any of this, 155 00:07:52,457 --> 00:07:56,182 so to masturbate would be to engage with that stuff. 156 00:07:57,488 --> 00:07:58,953 How are you feeling? 157 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:01,953 It's all laid bare, isn't it? There's nothing I can hide behind. 158 00:08:01,978 --> 00:08:06,273 No clothes, no airs and graces, it's just me and my body. 159 00:08:08,298 --> 00:08:10,023 Bring this hand... 160 00:08:10,048 --> 00:08:12,873 Keep that there, bring this hand around your face that way. 161 00:08:12,898 --> 00:08:14,382 Right, yeah. 162 00:08:14,407 --> 00:08:18,743 And then this pose comes out of, like, Greek bodies. 163 00:08:18,768 --> 00:08:20,312 So then what you're doing now 164 00:08:20,337 --> 00:08:23,353 is to queer that thing that you're used to, yeah? 165 00:08:23,378 --> 00:08:27,743 Mm-hm. Now we'll turn your face back that way again. 166 00:08:27,768 --> 00:08:29,512 That's it. So I'm half—vogueing, half... 167 00:08:29,537 --> 00:08:31,382 OK, got it. 168 00:08:31,407 --> 00:08:33,273 AjUMA CLICKS FINGERS Go on. 169 00:08:34,378 --> 00:08:35,953 Yeah, that's it. 170 00:08:35,978 --> 00:08:39,103 So then this is where we're going to start playing around now, yeah? 171 00:08:39,128 --> 00:08:40,743 And look straight towards my camera. 172 00:08:40,768 --> 00:08:42,463 Beautiful. 173 00:08:51,407 --> 00:08:52,463 Beautiful. 174 00:08:52,488 --> 00:08:54,182 Feeling strangely quite powerful. Like, it's... 175 00:08:54,207 --> 00:08:55,512 ...weird, it's nice. 176 00:08:55,537 --> 00:08:58,953 Weird and nice is a... is a good mix. Yeah. 177 00:09:00,898 --> 00:09:02,713 HE LAUGHS 178 00:09:02,738 --> 00:09:04,432 Gosh, that's my body. That's me! 179 00:09:04,457 --> 00:09:05,873 That's your body. 180 00:09:06,848 --> 00:09:09,353 My biggest fear is my own body, 181 00:09:09,378 --> 00:09:12,153 and how I feel about it, and here I am... 182 00:09:12,178 --> 00:09:15,153 ...very naked, in front of people. 183 00:09:15,178 --> 00:09:17,432 HE LAUGHS 184 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:18,993 It doesn't get much scarier for me. 185 00:09:29,898 --> 00:09:31,843 I take portraits of dicks 186 00:09:31,868 --> 00:09:34,743 because dicks have their own stories to tell, 187 00:09:34,768 --> 00:09:37,022 but are still censored. 188 00:09:38,408 --> 00:09:39,793 Lots of countries actually 189 00:09:39,818 --> 00:09:45,383 celebrate the penis in terms of its fertility, aliveness, 190 00:09:45,408 --> 00:09:49,743 and in this country, the dick is still seen as pornographic 191 00:09:49,768 --> 00:09:52,022 and my work is there to reclaim 192 00:09:52,047 --> 00:09:53,743 the dick from that space. 193 00:09:56,588 --> 00:10:01,953 By keeping the erection so taboo, we don't allow men to be vulnerable. 194 00:10:01,978 --> 00:10:04,873 I personally think it's really important for us to, like, just see 195 00:10:04,898 --> 00:10:08,203 more erect penises in our lives, not for a sex thing, just to normalize 196 00:10:08,228 --> 00:10:11,232 and to make them less panicky, because I think if you're a straight 197 00:10:11,257 --> 00:10:13,663 man specifically, you don't see enough of them. 198 00:10:13,688 --> 00:10:15,022 Hold it right there. 199 00:10:15,047 --> 00:10:16,913 I don't know why, in society, we seem 200 00:10:16,938 --> 00:10:19,203 to have shamed the erection. 201 00:10:19,228 --> 00:10:21,232 It doesn't make much sense to me. 202 00:10:21,257 --> 00:10:23,593 We're prudes, I think, in Britain. 203 00:10:25,018 --> 00:10:27,463 Without an erect penis, we wouldn't have life. 204 00:10:27,488 --> 00:10:30,463 There is a certain power to it, but it's a power that isn't 205 00:10:30,488 --> 00:10:33,272 just, like, uh, physical power, 206 00:10:33,297 --> 00:10:35,563 it's also, it's... It's all connected. 207 00:10:36,297 --> 00:10:38,953 It's strong, it is being masculine. 208 00:10:38,978 --> 00:10:42,482 Same pose, and throw your head back slightly. 209 00:10:42,507 --> 00:10:45,383 It is a physical manifestation, they're quite aggressive, cos, like, 210 00:10:45,408 --> 00:10:47,352 they're big and they're hard and they're angry. 211 00:10:47,377 --> 00:10:50,383 But I think it's also a sort of tie between the sexual act 212 00:10:50,408 --> 00:10:52,102 in that that becomes quite aggressive, 213 00:10:52,127 --> 00:10:57,282 and it's a... It can be, er... kind of physically intimidating. 214 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,923 How are you feeling? 215 00:11:00,948 --> 00:11:02,463 Serene. 216 00:11:02,488 --> 00:11:04,282 I think hiding the male erection 217 00:11:04,307 --> 00:11:06,073 and making it this taboo thing 218 00:11:06,098 --> 00:11:07,843 gives it more power... 219 00:11:09,057 --> 00:11:11,643 ...than maybe it deserves because it's pretty ordinary. 220 00:11:12,898 --> 00:11:14,183 Actually. 221 00:11:16,488 --> 00:11:19,433 I'm really excited about doing this next shot. 222 00:11:19,458 --> 00:11:22,953 The idea is around naturalness, fertility, flora, fauna. 223 00:11:22,978 --> 00:11:24,793 A dick is kind of 224 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:26,643 a central part of nature. 225 00:11:26,668 --> 00:11:29,513 Yeah, I think it removes all the kind of cosmetic attachments 226 00:11:29,538 --> 00:11:33,823 we have to the penis and brings it back to the organ. 227 00:11:34,898 --> 00:11:38,102 So, yeah, I think it's a beautiful way to frame it. 228 00:11:43,458 --> 00:11:45,753 The reason I wanted to do this shoot actually 229 00:11:45,778 --> 00:11:47,032 was because I don't 230 00:11:47,057 --> 00:11:49,593 want there to be a taboo around the erection. 231 00:11:49,618 --> 00:11:52,953 It's something that we all experience. 232 00:11:52,978 --> 00:11:55,793 And so, for me to openly explore that, 233 00:11:55,818 --> 00:11:58,073 in an artistic way as well, 234 00:11:58,098 --> 00:11:59,003 is amazing. 235 00:12:02,257 --> 00:12:05,313 A flaccid willy is a bit of a ball ache, to be honest. 236 00:12:05,338 --> 00:12:09,203 But as for when it's hard, fucking hell, sometimes it hurts. 237 00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:11,183 I know from a biological point of view, 238 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:12,793 it's blood flow and it's two chambers 239 00:12:12,818 --> 00:12:14,313 filling with a lot of blood. 240 00:12:14,338 --> 00:12:15,873 So then, I remember learning that, thinking 241 00:12:15,898 --> 00:12:17,282 "Am I going to get light—headed?" 242 00:12:17,307 --> 00:12:19,313 "What's going to happen?" 243 00:12:19,338 --> 00:12:21,793 I can definitely have an erection when it's not sexual. 244 00:12:21,818 --> 00:12:24,873 I can wake up in the morning and it's like, bang, it's up, 245 00:12:24,898 --> 00:12:27,823 and I don't particularly feel sexual. 246 00:12:27,848 --> 00:12:30,393 It's a sign of good health. It means your blood's flowing 247 00:12:30,418 --> 00:12:31,823 around your body, waking you up, 248 00:12:31,848 --> 00:12:34,183 that's what... That's the reality of being a man. 249 00:12:34,208 --> 00:12:36,593 You just wake up every day with a hard on. 250 00:12:36,618 --> 00:12:39,232 I think the most awkward ones for me are kind of... 251 00:12:39,257 --> 00:12:40,753 ...would happen when I'm driving. 252 00:12:40,778 --> 00:12:43,543 I don't know if it's like the rumble of the road on... 253 00:12:43,568 --> 00:12:45,393 ...on the kind of, you know, your balls 254 00:12:45,418 --> 00:12:46,833 as you're hitting the... on the seat. 255 00:12:46,858 --> 00:12:48,152 And you sort of go, 256 00:12:48,177 --> 00:12:50,673 "How did that speed bump give me an erection?" 257 00:12:50,698 --> 00:12:53,112 I used to always get one in geography class. 258 00:12:53,137 --> 00:12:55,793 And it was nothing to do with geography. 259 00:12:55,818 --> 00:12:57,593 A lot of it is mental. 260 00:12:57,618 --> 00:12:59,953 I could see a text come through from a client 261 00:12:59,978 --> 00:13:01,793 who I'm really attracted to, 262 00:13:01,818 --> 00:13:03,793 my dick would instantly get hard. 263 00:13:03,818 --> 00:13:06,152 For me, personally, if I'm walking down the street 264 00:13:06,177 --> 00:13:08,513 and suddenly I get a boner, I just go, 265 00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:11,193 "Oh, I feel good. I'm charged, I've got some sexual energy there, 266 00:13:11,218 --> 00:13:13,083 "I'm not trying to force this on anyone, 267 00:13:13,108 --> 00:13:15,873 "I'm not trying to show it anyone," so there's a level of 268 00:13:15,898 --> 00:13:19,112 sort of pride, really, to have that organ wake up. 269 00:13:23,898 --> 00:13:26,513 It's like another bit of your body all of a sudden, 270 00:13:26,538 --> 00:13:28,263 it's a hard thing, 271 00:13:28,288 --> 00:13:31,032 you know, just... Physically, I become very hot. 272 00:13:31,057 --> 00:13:33,083 It's brilliant, you know, 273 00:13:33,108 --> 00:13:36,032 it feels good, you start to release these endorphins in your brain... 274 00:13:36,057 --> 00:13:39,003 ...and it's going into your loins and you can't concentrate... 275 00:13:39,028 --> 00:13:41,003 ...close to that, it's like a tingle... 276 00:13:41,028 --> 00:13:43,362 ...it's this rush of blood that sort of seems to... 277 00:13:43,387 --> 00:13:45,723 ...it's not itchy, that's not the right word... 278 00:13:45,748 --> 00:13:47,263 ...that's pretty much all you can think about... 279 00:13:47,288 --> 00:13:49,833 ...like, you go into more of an animalistic state of mind... 280 00:13:49,858 --> 00:13:52,112 ...at least a little bit of... 281 00:13:52,137 --> 00:13:53,393 "euphofia". 282 00:13:53,418 --> 00:13:55,003 ...driving... 283 00:13:55,028 --> 00:13:57,003 SEXUAL MOANING 284 00:14:00,858 --> 00:14:02,473 ...and then you need to... 285 00:14:02,498 --> 00:14:03,673 ...do something about it. 286 00:14:09,858 --> 00:14:12,182 Some of the most embarrassing moments in my life 287 00:14:12,207 --> 00:14:14,103 would be times when it's failed me. 288 00:14:16,128 --> 00:14:19,463 This is a thing that, erm, I want to be proud of, 289 00:14:19,488 --> 00:14:21,743 that I want to use properly, 290 00:14:21,768 --> 00:14:24,613 that I want to pleasure a woman with 291 00:14:24,638 --> 00:14:26,932 and sometimes that pressure has meant 292 00:14:26,957 --> 00:14:29,023 I haven't been able to get a boner — 293 00:14:29,048 --> 00:14:32,213 and instantly, then, you're in this psychological battle 294 00:14:32,238 --> 00:14:34,743 where you think, she's gonna feel bad about herself 295 00:14:34,768 --> 00:14:37,103 at the same time I'm feeling bad about myself 296 00:14:37,128 --> 00:14:39,823 and if that happens once, it can happen twice, 297 00:14:39,848 --> 00:14:41,573 it can turn into, like, this cycle, 298 00:14:41,598 --> 00:14:43,932 so if you put too much pressure on yourself, 299 00:14:43,957 --> 00:14:47,293 if you think this thing is always gonna bring you glory and joy 300 00:14:47,318 --> 00:14:49,773 and ecstasy, then you will mess yourself up 301 00:14:49,798 --> 00:14:51,463 for future sexual encounters. 302 00:14:54,598 --> 00:14:59,973 Being a man, sex is talked about as if you are some kind of porn star. 303 00:15:02,277 --> 00:15:03,543 You're never kind of like, 304 00:15:03,568 --> 00:15:06,182 "Oh, I gave her the best ten seconds of her life," 305 00:15:06,207 --> 00:15:10,052 type thing, that's never, you know, talked about 306 00:15:10,077 --> 00:15:11,653 you know, "She was so gorgeous 307 00:15:11,678 --> 00:15:14,493 "and it was such a hot situation that I lasted seconds." 308 00:15:14,518 --> 00:15:16,973 I've never, ever met a bloke who's said that, 309 00:15:16,998 --> 00:15:18,693 but I know it's happened to me. 310 00:15:21,077 --> 00:15:22,463 When you're penetrating, 311 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:25,103 it's like entering the most warm, cuddly space, 312 00:15:25,128 --> 00:15:28,823 it's just all encompassing and it takes over your whole mind and body. 313 00:15:28,848 --> 00:15:31,932 So it's not just your penis sliding inside a very nice, 314 00:15:31,957 --> 00:15:34,853 moist, wet, tight, sort of... 315 00:15:34,878 --> 00:15:36,853 ...it's a great feeling. 316 00:15:36,878 --> 00:15:39,463 But also that flows through your whole body 317 00:15:39,488 --> 00:15:42,623 and through your brain and your endorphins are going, "Ding!" 318 00:15:42,648 --> 00:15:47,132 And everything's going ding, it's a real button presser, frankly. 319 00:15:49,438 --> 00:15:52,182 When I first started having sex with men, I was a bottom 320 00:15:52,207 --> 00:15:54,823 cos that's sort of where you end up, because there is a weird 321 00:15:54,848 --> 00:15:56,132 masculinity element towards that 322 00:15:56,157 --> 00:15:59,132 and so because I was having sex with men who were teaching me, 323 00:15:59,157 --> 00:16:01,012 I'd go on bottom, that's how it works. 324 00:16:01,037 --> 00:16:02,983 So to be penetrated, that was... That felt great 325 00:16:03,008 --> 00:16:05,293 and that was amazing, and having sex with a man 326 00:16:05,318 --> 00:16:06,573 in the first place was incredible. 327 00:16:06,598 --> 00:16:08,932 The first time I topped, I was terrified. 328 00:16:08,957 --> 00:16:11,693 Absolutely terrified because I had no idea what I was doing 329 00:16:11,718 --> 00:16:14,052 and I didn't know if I would do it right 330 00:16:14,077 --> 00:16:17,373 and I was taking on a lot of the control and I was becoming 331 00:16:17,398 --> 00:16:19,733 what would be seen as the more kind of masculine role 332 00:16:19,758 --> 00:16:22,182 and I didn't feel like I could live up to it. 333 00:16:22,207 --> 00:16:25,262 Turns out I'm pretty good, but at that point, it was terrifying. 334 00:16:27,568 --> 00:16:29,903 There's lots of theories about where we come from 335 00:16:29,928 --> 00:16:31,693 and how we're created but, essentially, 336 00:16:31,718 --> 00:16:34,052 there's one thing that's vital in that, and that's sperm. 337 00:16:34,077 --> 00:16:36,573 It does start with the sperm, obviously. 338 00:16:36,598 --> 00:16:39,623 I never think about being able to use my sperm 339 00:16:39,648 --> 00:16:41,983 for anything other than cleaning up later. 340 00:16:42,008 --> 00:16:44,293 I don't think anything towards sperm. 341 00:16:44,318 --> 00:16:47,052 Just get it off me, that's it. 342 00:16:47,077 --> 00:16:50,733 It's easier for men to disconnect from the idea that sperm 343 00:16:50,758 --> 00:16:54,262 has a value, because we produce millions of them 344 00:16:54,287 --> 00:16:57,373 and we can... quite literally, toss them away. 345 00:16:57,398 --> 00:16:59,853 When you look at come when you're younger, 346 00:16:59,878 --> 00:17:02,983 you don't necessarily acknowledge it's a reproductive tool. 347 00:17:03,008 --> 00:17:06,653 But as you get older, you know if you're firing on all cylinders, 348 00:17:06,678 --> 00:17:09,623 and you come and you know that there's sperm in there 349 00:17:09,648 --> 00:17:12,463 and it could potentially, you know, lead to you having a child, 350 00:17:12,488 --> 00:17:15,012 it does give you that sense of being a man. 351 00:17:17,728 --> 00:17:19,623 After we've got married and we decided 352 00:17:19,648 --> 00:17:21,413 that we wanted to try having kids, 353 00:17:21,438 --> 00:17:23,773 which was brilliant cos we had a lot of sex, 354 00:17:23,798 --> 00:17:26,132 but we weren't getting pregnant, and I was like, 355 00:17:26,157 --> 00:17:27,853 "Well, let's go and talk to the doctor." 356 00:17:27,878 --> 00:17:31,012 I got the phone call on the drive back to where we live 357 00:17:31,037 --> 00:17:35,413 and he said, "Yeah, there's no sperm at all in the sample, 358 00:17:35,438 --> 00:17:40,093 "and so that means that you won't be able to conceive your own child." 359 00:17:41,207 --> 00:17:43,423 Which... broke me, to be honest. 360 00:17:44,488 --> 00:17:45,733 Completely. 361 00:17:49,678 --> 00:17:51,932 And still does. 362 00:17:56,478 --> 00:17:58,543 It's indescribable, the pain, 363 00:17:58,568 --> 00:18:02,293 because I can't imagine what it's like to lose a child... 364 00:18:03,878 --> 00:18:08,262 ...but I know what it's like to lose a child you've never had. 365 00:18:10,568 --> 00:18:15,903 I lost, probably, 18 months of my life to depression. 366 00:18:17,568 --> 00:18:19,812 So we had to find a way forward, 367 00:18:19,837 --> 00:18:21,543 and for us that was sperm donation. 368 00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:23,853 I remember sitting on the train going to work, 369 00:18:23,878 --> 00:18:25,213 looking around and thinking, 370 00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:28,213 "One of these guys on this train could be the sperm donor." 371 00:18:28,238 --> 00:18:29,903 I really struggled with that. 372 00:18:29,928 --> 00:18:31,812 I really struggled with this idea of that, 373 00:18:31,837 --> 00:18:34,812 of, like, "How will I ever bond with that child?" 374 00:18:39,728 --> 00:18:42,062 We got pregnant the first time we went in, 375 00:18:42,087 --> 00:18:44,653 which was kind of a miracle, after everything we'd been through. 376 00:18:44,678 --> 00:18:48,012 It was just, like, we believed it, but we didn't entirely believe it 377 00:18:48,037 --> 00:18:51,423 but it was just wonderful, it was such a turning point in our lives 378 00:18:51,448 --> 00:18:55,812 that I never, ever thought I'd get to, if I'm completely honest. 379 00:18:55,837 --> 00:19:01,293 And then... our son was born and when he was brought out to me 380 00:19:01,318 --> 00:19:03,623 and I hugged him... 381 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:07,573 ...ah... 382 00:19:07,598 --> 00:19:09,373 ...it was everything. 383 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:11,373 Absolutely everything. 384 00:19:12,928 --> 00:19:14,533 I love him. 385 00:19:14,558 --> 00:19:16,093 So much. 386 00:19:21,758 --> 00:19:27,213 Nothing will compare to having a child. 387 00:19:37,808 --> 00:19:39,503 I grew up in Sheffield, 388 00:19:39,528 --> 00:19:42,822 and it's an area that's well known for straighteners. 389 00:19:42,847 --> 00:19:44,863 If there's a problem, 390 00:19:44,888 --> 00:19:48,142 people will go outside a pub and we'll sort it out. 391 00:19:50,167 --> 00:19:53,822 Violence brings a rush inside of me. 392 00:19:53,847 --> 00:19:56,103 It's like doing a bungee jump. 393 00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:58,103 It's like jumping out of a plane. 394 00:19:58,128 --> 00:20:00,822 It's an ultimate adrenaline rush. 395 00:20:00,847 --> 00:20:03,142 And on this one particular night, 396 00:20:03,167 --> 00:20:07,533 I went out on a night out and I ended up hitting a doorman. 397 00:20:07,558 --> 00:20:10,022 And I got 21 months for that. 398 00:20:12,278 --> 00:20:14,613 During sex, I often feel wrong, 399 00:20:14,638 --> 00:20:18,103 because my first experience having sex was rape. 400 00:20:18,128 --> 00:20:19,583 I was ten. 401 00:20:19,608 --> 00:20:22,783 So it's hard for me to, like, to separate the two. 402 00:20:24,528 --> 00:20:28,433 The ten-year-old me dealt with it... silently. 403 00:20:28,458 --> 00:20:30,053 I wore a mask. 404 00:20:30,078 --> 00:20:31,383 I was lost. 405 00:20:31,408 --> 00:20:34,433 I felt as though I couldn't talk to anyone about this. 406 00:20:34,458 --> 00:20:39,863 And then as I got a bit older, like, I start questioning myself. 407 00:20:39,888 --> 00:20:43,183 Like, am I gay? Does this... does this mean I'm gay? 408 00:20:43,208 --> 00:20:45,053 Because I've... cos I've been with a boy. 409 00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:47,793 And it confused the life out of me. 410 00:20:47,818 --> 00:20:50,613 Then the shame would set in, the guilt would set it. 411 00:20:52,528 --> 00:20:55,022 It affected my confidence in a way, 412 00:20:55,047 --> 00:20:57,613 but it was like reverse psychology. 413 00:20:57,638 --> 00:21:00,303 I had to then prove... 414 00:21:00,328 --> 00:21:03,942 I felt so shallow and so small inside, 415 00:21:03,967 --> 00:21:08,303 that I'd do anything to prove to anyone I am a big man. 416 00:21:08,328 --> 00:21:10,103 I am...| am a man. 417 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:13,383 I used jail for what it was. 418 00:21:13,408 --> 00:21:15,772 It was long, big, long look in the mirror. 419 00:21:15,797 --> 00:21:17,383 It was just me facing myself. 420 00:21:17,408 --> 00:21:20,942 I could no longer run away from what's happened to me. 421 00:21:22,538 --> 00:21:26,103 I speak out openly now about the sexual abuse 422 00:21:26,128 --> 00:21:28,822 and the rape I sustained as a child, 423 00:21:28,847 --> 00:21:31,183 and I can use my energy in a different way, 424 00:21:31,208 --> 00:21:34,663 I can channel my energy in a much more positive and influential way. 425 00:21:34,688 --> 00:21:40,743 And I'd say now I've done something that not many men can face. 426 00:21:40,768 --> 00:21:45,772 I've dug deep within myself, I've faced all my fears, 427 00:21:45,797 --> 00:21:48,902 and I'm as masculine as I've ever been. 428 00:21:55,408 --> 00:21:57,902 I've always photographed men's bodies in black and white. 429 00:21:59,358 --> 00:22:03,183 As men, we are often defined in black and white terms. 430 00:22:04,358 --> 00:22:07,383 And what really interests me are the shades in between. 431 00:22:09,927 --> 00:22:12,873 My work plays around with the idea of what men are 432 00:22:12,898 --> 00:22:14,623 and who we are allowed to be. 433 00:22:16,568 --> 00:22:20,513 So then I'm going to ask you to take off this for me. OK. 434 00:22:20,538 --> 00:22:22,983 And then I will then put this on for you. 435 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:25,303 How you feeling? Yeah, I'm good, man. Fine. Yeah? 436 00:22:25,328 --> 00:22:26,543 I'm naked, but it's fine. 437 00:22:26,568 --> 00:22:31,593 So, basically the idea I'm working with 438 00:22:31,618 --> 00:22:37,663 is that I'm going to use the shirt as an analogy for a straight jacket. 439 00:22:37,688 --> 00:22:39,543 OK. How we can be trapped, 440 00:22:39,568 --> 00:22:43,902 in terms of notions of kind of identity and masculinity. 441 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,663 Identity. How does that feel? 442 00:22:45,688 --> 00:22:46,743 Yeah, it's fine. 443 00:22:46,768 --> 00:22:49,543 You know, it's not normally the way I'd do it. It's cool. 444 00:22:52,128 --> 00:22:55,493 You might want to try and just bring your hands up a bit more. 445 00:22:55,518 --> 00:22:57,343 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 446 00:22:57,368 --> 00:22:58,902 Has to push out, slightly. 447 00:22:58,927 --> 00:23:01,517 It'll be awkward. Yeah, it is awkward. 448 00:23:01,542 --> 00:23:04,518 |'m... That's want I want, is the awkwardness. 449 00:23:05,952 --> 00:23:07,797 And your veins look beautiful. 450 00:23:07,822 --> 00:23:09,718 My what? Your veins on here... 451 00:23:09,743 --> 00:23:11,718 Christ, really? Jesus, I'm popping out. 452 00:23:11,743 --> 00:23:14,638 OK, so besides all that, just a really normal pose? 453 00:23:14,663 --> 00:23:15,958 Yeah. I get it. 454 00:23:15,983 --> 00:23:18,238 So, it's all about tension. 455 00:23:21,063 --> 00:23:24,677 Right, can you just now turn around and face me now? 456 00:23:25,743 --> 00:23:28,038 And then just do that pushing out again. just push. 457 00:23:28,063 --> 00:23:30,288 Yeah. Nice. 458 00:23:31,383 --> 00:23:32,358 Nice. 459 00:23:33,902 --> 00:23:35,038 Beautiful. 460 00:23:36,593 --> 00:23:38,877 I really like this shot, actually. 461 00:23:38,902 --> 00:23:43,288 So, I'm basically, what we're capturing is the tension. 462 00:23:43,313 --> 00:23:45,188 And then there's tension within your hands as well. 463 00:23:45,213 --> 00:23:47,518 OK, got it. Right, yeah? Right. 464 00:23:47,543 --> 00:23:49,877 Right, can I have you just turn your face 465 00:23:49,902 --> 00:23:54,208 directly towards the backdrop and stay like that. Yeah. 466 00:23:56,103 --> 00:23:57,958 I suppose to a certain extent, 467 00:23:57,983 --> 00:24:02,958 masculinity could be seen as being like a metaphorical straight jacket, 468 00:24:02,983 --> 00:24:05,828 when you're tied into a way of behaving 469 00:24:05,853 --> 00:24:08,108 and thinking on a very one-dimensional level. 470 00:24:09,022 --> 00:24:12,158 I see it as a challenge to break out, break out of that. 471 00:24:12,183 --> 00:24:16,958 And, um, to mould it to yourself. 472 00:24:16,983 --> 00:24:18,547 Beautiful. 473 00:24:18,572 --> 00:24:20,598 We've been very much in a man's world. 474 00:24:20,623 --> 00:24:22,958 Things are changing. I think it's a great thing. 475 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:25,828 And, you know, men have to maybe redefine themselves a bit, 476 00:24:25,853 --> 00:24:28,877 away from this sort of very passe cliche. 477 00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:32,677 I was born in the '60s, you know? I went to school in the '70s, 478 00:24:32,702 --> 00:24:34,178 and attitudes have changed a lot. 479 00:24:34,203 --> 00:24:36,518 So I effectively had to retook at my education 480 00:24:36,543 --> 00:24:38,368 and chuck out the bits that don't apply. 481 00:24:38,393 --> 00:24:40,648 And there's a lot of it. A lot of crap. 482 00:24:43,103 --> 00:24:45,398 I was sent to a really beautiful little school 483 00:24:45,423 --> 00:24:46,921 in the middle of the country. 484 00:24:48,817 --> 00:24:50,643 I was seven years old. 485 00:24:50,668 --> 00:24:53,283 Boris was there. The whole Johnson family were there, actually. 486 00:24:53,308 --> 00:24:55,643 And it was seen as being the top school, 487 00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:57,542 and then everybody ended up at Oxford or Cambridge 488 00:24:57,567 --> 00:25:00,002 and a lot of them are in politics. 489 00:25:02,098 --> 00:25:04,433 Everybody thinks, you know, we're privileged. 490 00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:06,363 I tell you what, you're lucky if you didn't go. 491 00:25:06,388 --> 00:25:08,723 You got away with it, cos it was shit. 492 00:25:08,748 --> 00:25:11,002 And then just push one hand up. Yeah. 493 00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:14,542 The longer I was there, the more I discovered and realised 494 00:25:14,567 --> 00:25:15,723 what really was going on. 495 00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:19,393 One of the things that happened was, there was a teacher 496 00:25:19,418 --> 00:25:20,752 who'd come into the dormitory 497 00:25:20,777 --> 00:25:23,073 and he would make us stand around completely naked 498 00:25:23,098 --> 00:25:24,723 and we'd have to get an erection 499 00:25:24,748 --> 00:25:26,473 and balance our slippers on the end of it. 500 00:25:26,498 --> 00:25:28,833 And basically, who'd get the hardest erection? 501 00:25:28,858 --> 00:25:31,792 It was basically, he would wander around sort of watching. 502 00:25:31,817 --> 00:25:33,113 He was, you know... 503 00:25:33,138 --> 00:25:35,473 Um, he had really scary, thick glasses 504 00:25:35,498 --> 00:25:38,363 and a wrinkly face, like paper. That's what I remember of him. 505 00:25:38,388 --> 00:25:41,393 And if he punish me, for example, he'd take me to his room. 506 00:25:41,418 --> 00:25:45,233 And he'd bend me over his bed and I'd just hear him breathing over me, 507 00:25:45,258 --> 00:25:46,363 But he wouldn't touch me. 508 00:25:46,388 --> 00:25:48,033 And yeah, it was creepy, you know? 509 00:25:48,058 --> 00:25:50,672 For somebody at that age, seven years old, it's super-creepy. 510 00:25:53,138 --> 00:25:55,723 I didn't realise at the time how extensive it was. 511 00:25:55,748 --> 00:25:58,193 I mean, some of my friends were essentially raped. 512 00:25:58,218 --> 00:26:00,542 Obviously zero consent at that age, 513 00:26:00,567 --> 00:26:03,263 you know, by teachers, you know? 514 00:26:03,288 --> 00:26:06,872 And we were all seven, eight, nine, ten, 11, 12. 515 00:26:06,897 --> 00:26:09,513 I mean, we were young, we were young. We were young. 516 00:26:09,538 --> 00:26:12,083 It's a hard word to describe, how you feel later, 517 00:26:12,108 --> 00:26:14,953 having realised something was going on that you couldn't help with. 518 00:26:14,978 --> 00:26:16,313 We were kids, so there's no way 519 00:26:16,338 --> 00:26:18,033 I could've done anything at the time. 520 00:26:18,058 --> 00:26:20,872 But if we'd all known more about the way of the world 521 00:26:20,897 --> 00:26:22,363 and we'd been a bit older, 522 00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:24,393 we might have been able to do something. 523 00:26:24,418 --> 00:26:26,313 It's weird, the way the memory works. 524 00:26:26,338 --> 00:26:28,802 For many years, everyone would brush this under the carpet. 525 00:26:28,827 --> 00:26:31,113 We wouldn't even talk about it with each other. 526 00:26:31,138 --> 00:26:32,552 But then in recent years, 527 00:26:32,577 --> 00:26:35,443 around the time of jimmy Savile, the conversation did come up. 528 00:26:35,468 --> 00:26:37,263 And it only became apparent to me then 529 00:26:37,288 --> 00:26:39,552 how damaging this had been to some people's lives. 530 00:26:40,777 --> 00:26:43,833 We brought a criminal case against some of the teachers. 531 00:26:43,858 --> 00:26:45,593 We've already been successful. 532 00:26:45,618 --> 00:26:48,552 We had one locked up and it meant justice for his victims. 533 00:26:50,218 --> 00:26:52,953 DIAL-UP TONE 534 00:26:55,258 --> 00:27:00,363 Pornography came into my life when I got a computer in my room. 535 00:27:00,388 --> 00:27:03,273 Because the dial-up was really slow, you'd just load images. 536 00:27:03,298 --> 00:27:05,622 And there it would be. Like, you'd see the head 537 00:27:05,647 --> 00:27:08,473 and then you'd see the eyes and then you'd see the boobs. 538 00:27:08,498 --> 00:27:11,273 And sometimes before you'd even got to the bottom of the image, 539 00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:13,913 which could just be one photo, you could have ejaculated. 540 00:27:13,938 --> 00:27:15,872 But it was always a race with pornography. 541 00:27:15,897 --> 00:27:18,523 I found that it was never, sort of, prolonging it 542 00:27:18,548 --> 00:27:21,393 and having a ten, 15-minute, 20-minute, 543 00:27:21,418 --> 00:27:24,113 30-minute sort of level of masturbation. 544 00:27:24,138 --> 00:27:26,443 It was always this, sort of, get it done quickly 545 00:27:26,468 --> 00:27:27,523 before someone catches you. 546 00:27:27,548 --> 00:27:29,113 WOMAN MOANS 547 00:27:29,138 --> 00:27:32,443 Porn just puts it into a visual, so you have to do less work. 548 00:27:32,468 --> 00:27:34,953 I think actually, honestly, using your imagination 549 00:27:34,978 --> 00:27:36,313 to jerk off is a lot of work. 550 00:27:36,338 --> 00:27:38,672 HE LAUGHS And nobody's got that kind of time. 551 00:27:38,697 --> 00:27:43,313 Sometimes I will use it if I know I need to wank and it has to be quick. 552 00:27:43,338 --> 00:27:44,523 Er, I will use porn. 553 00:27:44,548 --> 00:27:46,552 I think most people approach porn like that. 554 00:27:46,577 --> 00:27:48,913 They watch it, they get what they need from it, 555 00:27:48,938 --> 00:27:51,703 and then they close their laptop and pretend it didn't exist. 556 00:27:53,058 --> 00:27:55,393 The first time I ever saw porn, I was 12. 557 00:27:55,418 --> 00:27:57,752 And I was on the internet going to these websites 558 00:27:57,777 --> 00:28:01,083 having fun and I was like, "Oh, my God, my little sister loves Boyzone. 559 00:28:01,108 --> 00:28:03,113 "I'm going to look for B0yz0ne's website 560 00:28:03,138 --> 00:28:04,802 "and print off some pictures of Boyzone 561 00:28:04,827 --> 00:28:07,163 "and take them home for my sister, because I'm adorable." 562 00:28:07,188 --> 00:28:09,033 Also had a massive crush on most of Boyzone, 563 00:28:09,058 --> 00:28:10,443 but didn't fully understand. 564 00:28:10,468 --> 00:28:13,443 So I typed in Boyzone.com, thinking it was their website 565 00:28:13,468 --> 00:28:15,752 and it was not their website. Not at all. 566 00:28:15,777 --> 00:28:18,083 It was some very aggressive porn, 567 00:28:18,108 --> 00:28:22,752 and I could draw you, from memory, that page instantly, 568 00:28:22,777 --> 00:28:25,993 because it was both the most electrically exciting 569 00:28:26,018 --> 00:28:28,443 and the most terrified I've ever been in my life. 570 00:28:28,468 --> 00:28:30,993 WOMAN MOANS LOUDLY 571 00:28:32,378 --> 00:28:36,993 When I was younger, there was a lot of just thrusting and fucking 572 00:28:37,018 --> 00:28:40,752 and everything was sort of really aggressive. 573 00:28:40,777 --> 00:28:43,552 And I think I learned all them behaviours through pornography 574 00:28:43,577 --> 00:28:47,273 and I don't know how many sexual partners I had, but it was too many, 575 00:28:47,298 --> 00:28:49,632 before someone actually said, "| don't like it like that. 576 00:28:49,657 --> 00:28:51,473 "Why do guys always do it like that?" 577 00:28:51,498 --> 00:28:53,833 There was a serious lack of communication before that. 578 00:28:53,858 --> 00:28:56,632 That actually meant, "Slow down, make love, 579 00:28:56,657 --> 00:28:58,552 "caress me, use it properly, 580 00:28:58,577 --> 00:29:02,603 "allow me to feel the different contours of your penis." 581 00:29:02,628 --> 00:29:04,882 And that was like a game changer for me. 582 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:08,163 So, I think porn became a bit of a problem. 583 00:29:08,188 --> 00:29:10,523 There were definitely levels of addiction there. 584 00:29:10,548 --> 00:29:13,113 There were ways in which it was affecting my self—image, 585 00:29:13,138 --> 00:29:17,802 in terms of here are all these super-smooth, super-ripped 586 00:29:17,827 --> 00:29:19,113 white guys with massive dicks. 587 00:29:20,628 --> 00:29:25,393 And...| didn't see, obviously didn't see myself in any of that. 588 00:29:30,138 --> 00:29:34,523 I first realised towards the end of primary school that was I gay. 589 00:29:34,548 --> 00:29:36,073 But Asian men are straight. 590 00:29:36,098 --> 00:29:37,682 That's it. 591 00:29:37,707 --> 00:29:40,682 So I think trying to marry those parts of my identity together... 592 00:29:40,707 --> 00:29:42,273 ...that completely ripped me apart. 593 00:29:42,298 --> 00:29:45,033 It was, um... HE SIGHS 594 00:29:45,058 --> 00:29:47,882 ...trying to pray that the sexuality would go away 595 00:29:47,907 --> 00:29:49,473 or that I become straight. 596 00:29:49,498 --> 00:29:50,713 Or failing that, 597 00:29:50,738 --> 00:29:53,882 If I could get hit by a bus, or if something would happen 598 00:29:53,907 --> 00:29:55,393 so that I wasn't alive anymore, 599 00:29:55,418 --> 00:29:57,323 because I was suicidal during this time, 600 00:29:57,348 --> 00:30:00,273 but suicide is prohibited in Islam. 601 00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,243 So I kind of felt as though I was trapped. Um... 602 00:30:04,577 --> 00:30:06,473 And obviously, the gay didn't go away. 603 00:30:06,498 --> 00:30:09,993 And then it just got more and more intense, 604 00:30:10,018 --> 00:30:12,913 until I couldn't keep up with it anymore. 605 00:30:12,938 --> 00:30:15,163 It was just too much. It was... 606 00:30:16,988 --> 00:30:18,273 ...it was crushing. 607 00:30:19,657 --> 00:30:21,603 And I took it out on my body. 608 00:30:21,628 --> 00:30:23,432 So it was, you know, hacking my body, 609 00:30:23,457 --> 00:30:24,833 it was punishing my body 610 00:30:24,858 --> 00:30:27,403 because I hated this vessel that I was attached to. 611 00:30:27,428 --> 00:30:30,403 And I just wanted to rip my body apart. 612 00:30:30,428 --> 00:30:32,882 And I did. Physically, I started to rip it apart. 613 00:30:40,018 --> 00:30:42,682 How you feeling, OK? 614 00:30:42,707 --> 00:30:44,432 I want you to feel yourself transforming 615 00:30:44,457 --> 00:30:47,113 into something else, right, yeah? 616 00:30:49,818 --> 00:30:52,762 Yeah. Beautiful. 617 00:30:52,787 --> 00:30:54,762 Now then, touch your scars with this hand. 618 00:30:54,787 --> 00:30:56,273 Yeah, just very... 619 00:30:56,298 --> 00:30:59,193 Yeah, very, very gentle, like that. 620 00:31:01,577 --> 00:31:04,403 This is probably the strangest thing I've ever done in my life. 621 00:31:06,298 --> 00:31:08,762 Look away some more, look away. That's it. That's it. 622 00:31:11,548 --> 00:31:13,432 Being nude... Mm-hm? 623 00:31:13,457 --> 00:31:16,603 ...how do you feel, in terms of power? 624 00:31:16,628 --> 00:31:20,073 It feels powerful to be stood here nude, naked, 625 00:31:20,098 --> 00:31:22,073 talking about the things I've talked about. 626 00:31:22,098 --> 00:31:23,963 And I'm owning it. 627 00:31:25,218 --> 00:31:28,323 This whole experience has been kind of airing out the dirty laundry 628 00:31:28,348 --> 00:31:30,632 and seeing that, actually, when I talk about it, 629 00:31:30,657 --> 00:31:32,123 it's not as powerful anymore. 630 00:31:32,148 --> 00:31:35,073 Or it's kind of, it doesn't have as much of a hold on me 631 00:31:35,098 --> 00:31:37,353 And it's kind of drawn a line under it. 632 00:31:38,428 --> 00:31:39,432 I'm done. 633 00:31:40,577 --> 00:31:41,793 That's the image. 634 00:31:46,178 --> 00:31:48,713 Nice. That's me! That's you, honey. 635 00:31:50,428 --> 00:31:51,603 Thank you. 636 00:31:51,628 --> 00:31:52,833 Thank YOU. 637 00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:05,532 My penis, for me, is... 638 00:32:05,557 --> 00:32:10,873 ...symbolic of my ability to create life with the opposite sex. 639 00:32:10,898 --> 00:32:15,283 It's integral to who I am from a survival standpoint, 640 00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:19,632 in terms of my fertility, my strength, 641 00:32:19,657 --> 00:32:21,993 being able to pass on my seed. 642 00:32:22,018 --> 00:32:27,512 It's how I connect with the opposite sex on an intimate level. 643 00:32:27,537 --> 00:32:30,873 It's how we exchange that magical energy. 644 00:32:30,898 --> 00:32:31,923 |t's... it's... 645 00:32:31,948 --> 00:32:33,153 ...it's fucking awesome. 646 00:32:34,258 --> 00:32:36,562 How are you doing? Fantastic. 647 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:38,283 Thanks for coming. You're very welcome. 648 00:32:38,308 --> 00:32:40,233 Do you shake or hug? I like hugs. THEY LAUGH 649 00:32:40,258 --> 00:32:45,073 I think it's a travesty that men and women are being mushed together, 650 00:32:45,098 --> 00:32:47,873 because I think the differences between the two are so beautiful 651 00:32:47,898 --> 00:32:49,843 and that's where all the chemistry comes from. 652 00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:55,073 And to pretend that we're all the same in the name of equality, 653 00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:57,432 I think, is nonsense. 654 00:32:57,457 --> 00:32:59,793 I think that our differences should be celebrated. 655 00:32:59,818 --> 00:33:01,793 But what we should be doing is learning 656 00:33:01,818 --> 00:33:04,073 how to respect each other for those differences. 657 00:33:05,337 --> 00:33:07,923 So, then, tell me more about your work. 658 00:33:07,948 --> 00:33:10,203 I'm a sexual development companion, 659 00:33:10,228 --> 00:33:12,873 I'm a high-class escort. Yeah. 660 00:33:12,898 --> 00:33:15,923 So essentially, women hire me 661 00:33:15,948 --> 00:33:19,923 to help them explore their sexuality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 662 00:33:19,948 --> 00:33:22,233 And it varies a lot, 663 00:33:22,258 --> 00:33:25,432 from women who have been in long-term relationships 664 00:33:25,457 --> 00:33:27,043 where they've had no sex, 665 00:33:27,068 --> 00:33:29,782 to women who want to explore 666 00:33:29,807 --> 00:33:33,452 maybe a darker side of their sexuality. 667 00:33:33,477 --> 00:33:34,613 OK. 668 00:33:36,528 --> 00:33:39,023 I don't feel any pressure because of my race, 669 00:33:39,048 --> 00:33:43,743 but I probably have been with women who, for them, 670 00:33:43,768 --> 00:33:47,173 it was a large part of their attraction to me, 671 00:33:47,198 --> 00:33:50,143 was the fact that I was the forbidden fruit. 672 00:33:51,408 --> 00:33:54,452 I'm not ignorant to the fact that that plays into it, 673 00:33:54,477 --> 00:33:56,782 but I don't let that define me. 674 00:33:57,998 --> 00:34:00,303 How long have you been in the business? 675 00:34:00,328 --> 00:34:02,582 Coming up to about five years now. 676 00:34:02,607 --> 00:34:03,863 Are your family aware? 677 00:34:03,888 --> 00:34:06,173 I've got a 19-year-old daughter. 678 00:34:06,198 --> 00:34:09,143 She's lived with me since she was five years old. Yeah. 679 00:34:09,168 --> 00:34:11,143 So she's well aware of what I do. 680 00:34:11,168 --> 00:34:14,693 I'm quite open with her, within reason. I'm still her dad. 681 00:34:14,718 --> 00:34:17,143 Of course, yeah. So, you know, some information 682 00:34:17,168 --> 00:34:19,782 I don't need to share with her, but she knows what I do. 683 00:34:19,807 --> 00:34:21,253 I don't hide that from her. 684 00:34:22,607 --> 00:34:25,452 My mother is surprisingly more open to the idea 685 00:34:25,477 --> 00:34:28,943 than, I would say, my brothers and sisters, who... 686 00:34:28,968 --> 00:34:32,863 They tend not to really know how to deal with it, 687 00:34:32,888 --> 00:34:36,532 because within our family, the idea of discussing sexuality, 688 00:34:36,557 --> 00:34:39,813 especially if you've grown up in a household which is quite, 689 00:34:39,838 --> 00:34:42,973 quite religious, it's still quite a taboo subject. 690 00:34:49,408 --> 00:34:52,412 I want men to celebrate their bodies and their sexuality. 691 00:34:53,607 --> 00:34:56,053 And this project has made me continue to question 692 00:34:56,078 --> 00:34:58,743 why we don't see penises outside of sex. 693 00:35:01,607 --> 00:35:04,303 So it remains a symbol of old-school masculinity. 694 00:35:04,328 --> 00:35:06,223 That needs to be challenged. 695 00:35:07,888 --> 00:35:11,863 For me, masculinity is all about how much of a man I can feel, 696 00:35:11,888 --> 00:35:14,253 how much of a man I can make myself feel, 697 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,823 how much of a man I come across to other people. 698 00:35:18,208 --> 00:35:20,532 I don't think society really has many real men. 699 00:35:20,557 --> 00:35:23,103 I think society has a lot of grown boys. 700 00:35:23,128 --> 00:35:26,223 And so I think men find themselves under the pressures 701 00:35:26,248 --> 00:35:29,613 to try and achieve a warped version of masculinity. 702 00:35:29,638 --> 00:35:32,893 And it's the wrong version of masculinity that they're pursuing. 703 00:35:37,048 --> 00:35:41,893 I think the word masculinity, to me, means... 704 00:35:41,918 --> 00:35:44,183 ...violence probably, first and foremost. 705 00:35:45,968 --> 00:35:48,303 It's much bigger than me. It's structural. 706 00:35:48,328 --> 00:35:50,743 It's the way we reward masculinity and let boys be boys. 707 00:35:53,048 --> 00:35:57,503 I was always extremely visibly feminine from a really young age. 708 00:35:57,528 --> 00:36:01,053 And I think people just didn't really know how to deal with that. 709 00:36:01,078 --> 00:36:05,693 So when my big body that was incredibly feminine 710 00:36:05,718 --> 00:36:09,613 would question people's perception of what I should be, 711 00:36:09,638 --> 00:36:12,743 I think that creates that friction and a tension and a violence, 712 00:36:12,768 --> 00:36:14,973 and that's what would happen. 713 00:36:16,638 --> 00:36:19,303 At high school they used to, like, find me in corners 714 00:36:19,328 --> 00:36:21,662 in, like, a PE changing room or something. 715 00:36:21,687 --> 00:36:23,412 And then they'd, like, come down my throat 716 00:36:23,437 --> 00:36:26,693 and then be like, "You fucking tell anyone about this, I'll kill you." 717 00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:30,103 Like, later that day, I'd look up at the top deck of the bus 718 00:36:30,128 --> 00:36:32,903 and they'd be like, "You fucking faggot!" and then spit on my face. 719 00:36:32,928 --> 00:36:35,263 And all their lads around them would be doing the same 720 00:36:35,288 --> 00:36:38,773 and it's like, "How funny, you literally came in my mouth 721 00:36:38,798 --> 00:36:40,303 "about four hours ago." 722 00:36:43,848 --> 00:36:46,183 My surname's Bellringer, 723 00:36:46,208 --> 00:36:50,223 and when I was at school, I was teased remorselessly 724 00:36:50,248 --> 00:36:52,303 and I acted really badly with that. 725 00:36:52,328 --> 00:36:55,623 Instead of laughing it off, which would have been the better option, 726 00:36:55,648 --> 00:36:58,462 I used to get into scrapes or fights and things like that. 727 00:36:58,487 --> 00:37:02,873 The problem is, is that I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag. 728 00:37:02,898 --> 00:37:06,493 And when I joined the army, I had to hide that. 729 00:37:06,518 --> 00:37:09,773 I was worried that I was a coward, 730 00:37:09,798 --> 00:37:13,542 and I felt I had to appear as this big man. 731 00:37:13,567 --> 00:37:19,332 I had to project this idea 732 00:37:19,357 --> 00:37:23,662 of being big, gruff, brave, courageous. 733 00:37:24,848 --> 00:37:29,823 And no-one must know that I feel that I'm a coward. 734 00:37:31,567 --> 00:37:32,903 As an 18—year—old, 735 00:37:32,928 --> 00:37:37,303 joining the police meant a decent wage at £20,000, 736 00:37:37,328 --> 00:37:40,983 driving fast cars and locking bad people up. 737 00:37:41,008 --> 00:37:44,233 However, the stark reality is, er... 738 00:37:44,258 --> 00:37:45,542 ...I've become ill from it. 739 00:37:47,288 --> 00:37:50,133 There's just some A and A here, Geezer's moving around over there. 740 00:37:54,288 --> 00:37:57,023 Ten years ago, I was serving in Afghanistan. 741 00:37:57,048 --> 00:38:00,053 My role over there was bomb disposal. 742 00:38:00,078 --> 00:38:02,592 We were tasked on this particular day 743 00:38:02,617 --> 00:38:04,903 to deal with a series of devices, 744 00:38:04,928 --> 00:38:09,303 something we'd done many, many times before. Um... 745 00:38:09,328 --> 00:38:13,133 But on this particular day, it went awfully wrong. 746 00:38:14,258 --> 00:38:16,183 I would be in murder scenes. 747 00:38:17,437 --> 00:38:19,743 Blood everywhere, carpets, walls, 748 00:38:19,768 --> 00:38:22,103 there would potentially still be a body there 749 00:38:22,128 --> 00:38:24,412 if it hadn't been removed by the coroners. 750 00:38:24,437 --> 00:38:27,023 Going to a road traffic accident, 751 00:38:27,048 --> 00:38:31,412 you're digging body parts out of roads with tweezers and spoons. 752 00:38:31,437 --> 00:38:34,103 But the one thing that will never, ever leave me, 753 00:38:34,128 --> 00:38:37,313 and the medications haven't touched and haven't managed to solve, 754 00:38:37,338 --> 00:38:39,342 is the smell and the sight of death. 755 00:38:39,367 --> 00:38:43,023 I can close my eyes and I can picture any one of a hundred, maybe, 756 00:38:43,048 --> 00:38:44,743 dead bodies that I've seen. 757 00:38:44,768 --> 00:38:48,592 And to this day, I wake up in the middle of the night screaming, 758 00:38:48,617 --> 00:38:51,263 I have sweats and terrors. 759 00:38:51,288 --> 00:38:53,212 That's the reality of being in the police. 760 00:38:54,518 --> 00:38:56,542 They have something called the canteen culture. 761 00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:58,903 And you literally sit around on your lunch break 762 00:38:58,928 --> 00:39:02,263 and you laugh and joke about dead bodies. 763 00:39:02,288 --> 00:39:04,623 In essence, that's their way of dealing with it, 764 00:39:04,648 --> 00:39:06,983 because they make it very difficult for you to speak out. 765 00:39:07,008 --> 00:39:09,462 "Well, you joined the police, you knew what you were getting into." 766 00:39:11,008 --> 00:39:13,773 I survived an absolutely massive explosion 767 00:39:13,798 --> 00:39:16,903 that I had no right to survive. 768 00:39:16,928 --> 00:39:23,313 Strangely, when I was told that I'd lost my testicles, 769 00:39:23,338 --> 00:39:24,743 I just... 770 00:39:24,768 --> 00:39:28,063 ...metaphorically, just shrugged my shoulders 771 00:39:28,088 --> 00:39:30,573 and went, you know, "That's... that's that, then". 772 00:39:30,598 --> 00:39:33,783 I didn't grieve straight away. 773 00:39:33,808 --> 00:39:37,313 But later on, I did. 774 00:39:37,338 --> 00:39:42,263 Sometimes I'd be in a horny mood, but... 775 00:39:42,288 --> 00:39:45,672 ...have nothing that I could do about that, 776 00:39:45,697 --> 00:39:48,783 I suppose the ultimate frustration of being a man. 777 00:39:48,808 --> 00:39:52,853 Mental health is a big problem for men. 778 00:39:52,878 --> 00:39:58,143 The stigma attached to men is, you can't cry, 779 00:39:58,168 --> 00:40:00,573 you can't show you're emotional, 780 00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:04,183 you can't let off steam in a way that shows you're weak. 781 00:40:04,208 --> 00:40:09,212 And we need that. We need that sort of ability to say, 782 00:40:09,237 --> 00:40:10,623 "I'm struggling with this. 783 00:40:10,648 --> 00:40:13,703 "I'm tired, you know, I'm feeling emotional, I'm feeling down. 784 00:40:13,728 --> 00:40:14,753 "| need to cry." 785 00:40:16,317 --> 00:40:18,853 The genital injuries that I've suffered 786 00:40:18,878 --> 00:40:22,542 really has changed my perspective on being a man. 787 00:40:23,808 --> 00:40:26,503 Many things aren't as important. 788 00:40:26,528 --> 00:40:30,542 I don't need to be big and aggressive. 789 00:40:30,567 --> 00:40:31,983 And for me now, 790 00:40:32,008 --> 00:40:36,462 being a man is just about being happy with life. 791 00:40:36,487 --> 00:40:38,033 That's the important thing. 792 00:40:38,058 --> 00:40:40,292 Being happy with life and who you are. 793 00:40:44,367 --> 00:40:47,393 As men, we are conditioned to bury our vulnerability, 794 00:40:47,418 --> 00:40:49,623 so often with disastrous results. 795 00:40:51,648 --> 00:40:55,263 I find it inspiring, the way that Darren has faced his demons. 796 00:40:56,487 --> 00:40:58,222 Jesus Christ. 797 00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:01,342 This is a first for me. 798 00:41:01,367 --> 00:41:04,263 I can't say I've ever had octopus on my feet. 799 00:41:05,928 --> 00:41:08,653 As men, our emotions get tangled. 800 00:41:08,678 --> 00:41:13,063 We cannot always work them through, unravel them. 801 00:41:13,088 --> 00:41:15,863 For me, the octopus is a great metaphor 802 00:41:15,888 --> 00:41:19,903 for how we can talk about masculinity. 803 00:41:19,928 --> 00:41:22,422 And then the octopus tentacle's going around here, 804 00:41:22,447 --> 00:41:25,583 going to be like shackles as well, 805 00:41:25,608 --> 00:41:27,583 because then I think we're also chained 806 00:41:27,608 --> 00:41:30,583 to concepts of masculinity. 807 00:41:30,608 --> 00:41:33,342 For me, it's the shackles of PTSD and the police. 808 00:41:35,247 --> 00:41:36,903 I think everything you've just said 809 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:39,903 is completely captured within that photo. 810 00:41:48,317 --> 00:41:52,703 Secondary school harboured a very warped version of masculinity, 811 00:41:52,728 --> 00:41:55,983 because it was very much about dominance and popularity. 812 00:41:56,008 --> 00:41:57,193 You had to prove yourself, 813 00:41:57,218 --> 00:41:59,542 whether it was through courage, through fighting. 814 00:41:59,567 --> 00:42:02,063 If you were seen to care too much, you know, 815 00:42:02,088 --> 00:42:03,863 you could have been bullied for that. 816 00:42:03,888 --> 00:42:07,943 If you weren't able to snog a girl, 817 00:42:07,968 --> 00:42:09,703 you would have been bullied for that. 818 00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:13,703 And as you grow up, you continue to reuse them patterns 819 00:42:13,728 --> 00:42:15,193 that are built into you, 820 00:42:15,218 --> 00:42:17,552 not realising that you should have grown out of them 821 00:42:17,577 --> 00:42:19,983 as you truly turn into a real man. 822 00:42:20,008 --> 00:42:21,916 I think men ooze this confidence 823 00:42:21,941 --> 00:42:24,870 and this testosterone just comes through, 824 00:42:24,895 --> 00:42:27,189 and they put on this poker face. 825 00:42:27,214 --> 00:42:32,550 But on the inside, they are quite emotionally constipated 826 00:42:32,575 --> 00:42:37,160 and a lot of the thoughts and the feelings are kept to themselves. 827 00:42:37,185 --> 00:42:40,470 I honestly don't know what masculinity is 828 00:42:40,495 --> 00:42:43,080 and that's one of the reasons I have trouble being it, 829 00:42:43,105 --> 00:42:45,880 because it's not a story I can tell myself that I understand. 830 00:42:47,055 --> 00:42:50,910 Masculinity means obviously, men and women look different. 831 00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:53,700 If you go back thousands of years, 832 00:42:53,725 --> 00:42:57,230 you've got, sort of, that primate, caveman type thing, 833 00:42:57,255 --> 00:42:59,750 where men would look after the women. 834 00:42:59,775 --> 00:43:02,550 So they've got to be tough and, you know, protect their women, 835 00:43:02,575 --> 00:43:04,880 and go out and feed their family. 836 00:43:04,905 --> 00:43:07,519 So for me, that's really, really important 837 00:43:07,544 --> 00:43:09,750 to be seen as a man. 838 00:43:12,055 --> 00:43:14,340 When I was five, for some reason, 839 00:43:14,365 --> 00:43:17,550 to me, the age six just seemed like a boy's age, 840 00:43:17,575 --> 00:43:20,439 and so I thought I would wake up on my sixth birthday, 841 00:43:20,464 --> 00:43:22,240 having wished for many, many years, 842 00:43:22,265 --> 00:43:25,059 every morning, I'd wake up and pray that I'd be a boy, 843 00:43:25,084 --> 00:43:27,389 that it was going to happen on my sixth birthday. 844 00:43:27,414 --> 00:43:29,269 And I said to the people around me, 845 00:43:29,294 --> 00:43:32,439 "I'm going to be a boy when I'm six." And they're obviously like, 846 00:43:32,464 --> 00:43:33,670 "No, you're not." 847 00:43:35,414 --> 00:43:39,269 Puberty, for me was horrible, really horrible. 848 00:43:39,294 --> 00:43:42,600 I knew from an early age that I was going to grow breasts 849 00:43:42,625 --> 00:43:44,439 and have various things happen 850 00:43:44,464 --> 00:43:46,990 and the thought of that scared the life out of me. 851 00:43:47,015 --> 00:43:48,550 And then you know it's coming 852 00:43:48,575 --> 00:43:50,910 and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. 853 00:43:50,935 --> 00:43:53,880 And your body just grows in ways you don't want it to. 854 00:43:53,905 --> 00:43:55,519 I thought I was a freak. 855 00:43:58,214 --> 00:44:01,519 Having started hormones, obviously my clitoris has grown, 856 00:44:01,544 --> 00:44:03,990 so effectively, it's a micropenis, 857 00:44:04,015 --> 00:44:05,990 and the clitoris has got, I don't know, 858 00:44:06,015 --> 00:44:09,630 50 times more nerves, I think, than a penis, so it's very sensitive. 859 00:44:09,655 --> 00:44:11,960 And if it's grown, it's gonna be even more sensitive. 860 00:44:11,985 --> 00:44:14,030 It can become erect, 861 00:44:14,055 --> 00:44:17,110 which means you've got something that effectively feels 862 00:44:17,135 --> 00:44:19,750 exactly the, you know, it sexually feels nice. 863 00:44:19,775 --> 00:44:22,069 You can still orgasm. 864 00:44:22,094 --> 00:44:28,470 And for me, being a man is not necessarily about that area. 865 00:44:28,495 --> 00:44:29,350 No one sees that. 866 00:44:29,375 --> 00:44:31,030 So when I'm walking down the road 867 00:44:31,055 --> 00:44:34,269 and I go into a shop and buy a can of Coke, 868 00:44:34,294 --> 00:44:37,069 that's the one area that doesn't matter. 869 00:44:38,825 --> 00:44:42,550 I was in a relationship for about ten years before I transitioned, 870 00:44:42,575 --> 00:44:44,910 and, you know, in terms of the relationship itself, 871 00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:46,750 nothing changed. 872 00:44:46,775 --> 00:44:50,069 But what I find really weird is, 873 00:44:50,094 --> 00:44:53,319 before, I was seen as a straight woman, 874 00:44:53,344 --> 00:44:56,389 so I was straight, and now I'm seen as a gay man. 875 00:44:57,575 --> 00:45:01,269 We're still the same people and the relationship's the same, 876 00:45:01,294 --> 00:45:05,240 but the world sees me as a different... 877 00:45:06,375 --> 00:45:07,830 “sexuality. 878 00:45:10,705 --> 00:45:14,990 Our dicks helped shape us as men, and how we navigate the world. 879 00:45:16,214 --> 00:45:17,680 And like the men I've met, 880 00:45:17,705 --> 00:45:20,350 that can be complicated and beautiful. 881 00:45:21,625 --> 00:45:25,389 Now, as I stand, masculinity means, to me, 882 00:45:25,414 --> 00:45:28,149 somebody who's not got anything to prove. 883 00:45:28,174 --> 00:45:31,960 Somebody who can live truthful. Somebody who can say no. 884 00:45:31,985 --> 00:45:35,630 Somebody who can express their emotions. 885 00:45:35,655 --> 00:45:39,110 And somebody who can be honest with themselves and others in this world. 886 00:45:40,705 --> 00:45:45,319 A good man to me kind of means someone who is strong and courageous 887 00:45:45,344 --> 00:45:46,960 and not just, like, physically strong, 888 00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:49,550 but with a sense of reliability 889 00:45:49,575 --> 00:45:53,960 and able to support people around him. 890 00:45:53,985 --> 00:45:57,240 Someone who is comfortable and controlled 891 00:45:57,265 --> 00:46:00,069 and doesn't feel the need to project themselves onto others. 892 00:46:00,094 --> 00:46:02,399 I wanted to fuck with the rules, 893 00:46:02,424 --> 00:46:05,189 especially the one that tries to define 894 00:46:05,214 --> 00:46:08,040 how we as men should think and act. 895 00:46:08,065 --> 00:46:11,350 I think being a man has changed a lot in the last few years. 896 00:46:11,375 --> 00:46:12,830 We're all starting to realise 897 00:46:12,855 --> 00:46:16,790 that we're all probably not as masculine as we all think we are. 898 00:46:16,815 --> 00:46:19,430 There's definitely been a massive change for me 899 00:46:19,455 --> 00:46:22,430 in how men are with their emotional selves. 900 00:46:22,455 --> 00:46:24,790 There is a dialogue that's been opened up 901 00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:26,760 where men are allowed to talk about pain. 902 00:46:26,785 --> 00:46:28,760 They're allowed to talk about what they feel 903 00:46:28,785 --> 00:46:30,319 and why they feel it. 904 00:46:30,344 --> 00:46:32,790 And it's raised the bar from survival to happiness. 905 00:46:32,815 --> 00:46:35,069 And I think now, men want to be happy. 906 00:46:36,375 --> 00:46:40,710 We need to let men be whatever they want to be. 907 00:46:40,735 --> 00:46:43,350 And I think we can do all that, 908 00:46:43,375 --> 00:46:46,350 without losing the joys and the pleasures of the dick. 75481

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