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(EXHALES)
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Like, I already
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know. Like...
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(GASPS) I got in.
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I got in, I got in! (SCREAMS)
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(WOMAN LAUGHING)
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Oh, my God!
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I got in!
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Ahhh! Ha-ha!
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(SCREAMS)
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WOMAN 1: Okay.
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(SOBS)
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What? Denied?
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I got in! (SOBS)
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(SHOUTING TRIUMPHANTLY)
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Yes! Yes!
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Booyah! Booyah! Booyah!
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Yes!
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MAN 1: "Application Status,
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decision made."
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I'm sorry, Janelle.
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(SHOUTS) Admitted!
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(ALL CHEERING)
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Oh, my God!
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(SCREAMS) Yes, yes, yes!
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(INAUDIBLE)
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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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(STUDENTS LAUGH)
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(CHEERING)
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PROFESSOR 1: New students,
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as I look out on you today,
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I recognize that
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you must be feeling
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incredible excitement,
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anticipation, and perhaps
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a little relief, as well.
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This is the day.
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PROFESSOR 2: As your parents
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learned when they
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dropped you off today,
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what happens in
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college stays in college.
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Most of the time.
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(STUDENTS CHEER AND CLAP)
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PROFESSOR 3:
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Few things are more
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worthy of celebration
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than the entry of
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a new class of students
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into the university.
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You have strengths
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and skills and smarts
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that you don't
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yet even realize.
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Our Kansas
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State University
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new undergraduate
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students today
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are indeed the next
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generation of leaders
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on whom we
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will all rely.
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PROFESSOR 4:
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Let us, the faculty,
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know what we can do
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to help you reach that goal.
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We will be there
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to advise you,
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to support you,
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to guide you,
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to point you to
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vast resources
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and opportunities
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on your way.
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To our new
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treasured students,
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this is your moment.
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Ah, you see? Ah!
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Does it get
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any higher?
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WOMAN 2: No. No.
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Aha! (LAUGHS)
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ANDREA PINO: Growing up in
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inner-city Miami,
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people like me don't
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really go anywhere.
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My dad came over from Cuba,
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and then my mom is
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second generation
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Cuban-American.
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I really wanted
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to get out of Miami
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and do something different.
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I'm the first
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person in my family
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to ever leave the state
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and go to college.
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(CHEERING AND CLAPPING)
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I was actually valedictorian
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in high school.
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One of my favorite
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trips was coming to DC
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when I was eight,
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and I cried
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when I saw
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the Declaration
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of Independence. (LAUGHS)
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I've always been
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really fascinated
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with the law and politics
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and just, like,
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our country's history.
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And I knew I
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wanted to go to a school
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that had that history.
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And, you know, UNC was
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the first public school,
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and they had so much in its
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history, you know,
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of activism and
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social justice,
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and I just knew
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I belonged.
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ANNIE CLARK:
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I grew up in Raleigh,
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North Carolina,
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kind of in suburbia.
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(CHUCKLES)
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High school I actually had
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a great time in.
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I was athletic.
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I played a lot of sports.
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I was the first female
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in my class to letter.
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I lettered in cross country.
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And then I played soccer.
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I was basically
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a straight-A student,
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graduated third
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in my class.
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For college, I thought
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I would go somewhere in-state,
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and, um, UNC
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was the best school.
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I really had
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a good time there.
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I learned a lot.
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I loved my professors.
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The first few weeks,
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I made some of
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my best friends,
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and we're still really,
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really close
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to this day.
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But two of us were
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sexually assaulted
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before classes
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had even started.
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It was at night, um...
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We were dancing.
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I was out with some friends.
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People were drinking,
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but nobody was
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ridiculously drunk.
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And I got pulled
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outside and, um,
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banged my head
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against a wall,
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and was raped.
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I physically fought
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and got away and ran,
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and then went to
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the bathroom and,
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like, I still remember
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just putting my
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hands on the sink
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and just looking at
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myself in the mirror,
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shaking, like,
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"What just happened?"
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ANDREA: My sophomore year,
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right after spring break,
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a really good
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friend of mine said,
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"You want to go
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to this party?"
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and it was pretty
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late in the night.
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I started dancing
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with this guy.
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He was
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really attractive
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and a really, really
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great dancer
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and just a really
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good person.
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At least,
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I thought he was.
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It all happened
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really quickly.
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I was actually a virgin,
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so that adds a bit to it,
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but, um, he just
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started kind of, like,
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pulling me
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towards the bathroom.
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He grabbed my head
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by the side of my ear
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and slammed it
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against the bathroom tile.
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And it didn't stop.
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I couldn't move.
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I could hear the laughter
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outside the door.
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I could hear
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the people dancing.
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And it made me wonder,
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why does nobody see me?
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Why has nobody
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come to the bathroom?
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Why am I not screaming?
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When you're scared,
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when you don't know
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what's happening to you,
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you just stay there
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and you hope
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that you don't die.
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And that's what
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I was hoping,
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that I had more
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than just 20 years to live.
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We've known for
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probably 25 years now
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that the problem
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of sexual assault
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on college
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campuses is enormous.
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DANIELLE DIRKS: On college
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campuses, it is not the person
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jumping out of the bushes
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or in the parking
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lot who is going to
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rape or sexually assault you.
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It is the person
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whom you know,
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the person you may
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have classes with,
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the person you
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see at a party.
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You think about
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it's the people
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we don't know
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that we should
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be worried about,
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but it's really
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the people you do know
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that you should
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be worried about.
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JOHN FOUBERT: But I think
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a lot of parents think,
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"Well, we'll drop
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our daughter off,
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"she'll have a great
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college experience,
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"and everything will
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be fine because the
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college has a reputation
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"for being a safe place."
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Um...
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It's not.
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ANDREA: I learned later
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on that I wasn't the only
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one who was
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raped that weekend.
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But at the time,
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we didn't talk about it
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because it was something
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that nobody talked about.
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Rape's a scary word.
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You don't want to
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fall into a category.
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You don't want to
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be called the victim.
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I did not want to admit
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that it happened to me.
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ANNIE: I didn't tell anybody
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for a really long time.
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I went to classes, um,
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did everything
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kind of normally,
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and it was just something
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in the back of my mind
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and it really
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started to affect me.
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And I was like,
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"I need to do
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something about this."
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And it actually
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wasn't until one of my
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other friends
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came to me and said,
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"I was assaulted
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at a fraternity.
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How do I report?"
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And I said,
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"Actually, I don't know."
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And I disclosed to her
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that I was assaulted, as well,
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and we sat down and
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just pulled up Google
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and started looking up
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how to report at UNC.
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I knew I was more comfortable
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reporting than she was.
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So, I said,
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"Okay, I'm gonna go report,
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"and then I'll
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figure out how to do it,
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"and then I'll tell you,
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and then you can do it too."
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So, I told this administrator
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I was violently raped,
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and we're sitting
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down at this point,
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and she looks at
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me and she's like,
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"Rape is like
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a football game, Annie,
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"and if you look
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back on the game,
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"what would you do differently
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in that situation?"
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I was expecting resources.
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I was expecting support.
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And instead she gives me
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this metaphor that
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rape is football.
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And it made no sense.
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And I ask her... I was just,
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"No, rape is not
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like football at all!"
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And she's like, "Well,
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you know, were you drunk?"
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And, "What would you
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have done differently
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"if you could replay
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the situation again?"
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And I was just getting blamed
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and blamed and
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blamed for this.
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CRYTAL GIOKAS:
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They kept asking me, like,
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"What were you wearing?
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"What were you drinking? How
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much did you have to drink?
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Did you pregame?"
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He kind of just
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lectured us about
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how we shouldn't go
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out in short skirts.
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And we shouldn't drink
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because, I mean, that's
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our fault.
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"Did you say no?
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"How many times
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did you say no?
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How did you say it?
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"Okay, what were you wearing?"
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There was no response.
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There was no response
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for seven months.
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I thought that if I told them,
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they would take action.
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But the only action
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they took was against me.
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After I was
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sexually assaulted,
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they said I
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should just drop out
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until everything blows over.
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Out of school.
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I went back into her office,
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and I asked her what happened.
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She looked me right in the eye
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and told me that she forgot.
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The school's response
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always seemed like
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they were more concerned
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about him and his needs.
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She said, uh,
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"You don't know what
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he's going through right now
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"He could be really
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having a hard time."
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They also told me,
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despite the fact that I had
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a written admission
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of guilt from him,
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that I didn't have enough
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evidence and that, in fact,
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what I'd presented to them
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could only prove
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that he loved me.
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There's a lot of
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victim-blaming
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with this crime,
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which has a silencing
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effect on survivors.
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If a student comes
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to an administrator
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with a problem,
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it's not as if
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the administrator
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wants that
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student to be harmed.
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It's not as if
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the administrator
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wants the harm
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to be perpetuated,
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but their first job is to
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protect the institution
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from harm,
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not the student from harm.
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What you do is you
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make it difficult
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for students to report,
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so you don't have 200
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or a thousand
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reported assaults,
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or whatever the number
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would be on that campus.
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So, you can artificially keep
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your numbers low.
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One really easy way,
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when a lot of students report,
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they very much discourage them
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from going to the police.
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And that's because
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if it goes to the police,
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then it's more likely to
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end up as a public record.
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CLAIRE BOND POTTER:
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Colleges have been
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mandated for a long
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time to report the crimes
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that occur on campus
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to the federal government.
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But it is in
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the interest of the college
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to actually suppress
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all knowledge that
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that rape has happened.
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There is a desire to have this
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addressed internally.
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And part of that is silencing
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the kind of problem.
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It's viewed as
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a public relations
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management kind of a problem,
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I would say.
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Universities are
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protecting a brand.
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They're selling a product.
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(DANCE MUSIC PLAYING)
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KAMILAH WILLINGHAM:
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I got a call from
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the Dean of Admissions first,
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00:14:12,143 --> 00:14:15,021
asking, you know...
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"If you were to
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00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:17,357
get into Harvard,
471
00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:17,357
would you accept?"
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And I said yes
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because I knew my mom
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would kill me if I
475
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said anything else.
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00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,695
But... (LAUGHS)
477
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I had mentioned
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a little pressure.
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Just a little.
480
00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,160
You know, I saw it as
481
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a great opportunity.
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You know,
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00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,746
a Harvard law degree. Wow.
484
00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:36,793
KAMILAH WILLINGHAM:
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I saw the inside
486
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of a court room
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00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:37,918
during my second
488
00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:37,918
year of law school.
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00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:45,134
It was insanely stressful,
490
00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:45,134
but also super rewarding.
491
00:14:45,176 --> 00:14:47,887
So, yeah, I really loved
492
00:14:45,176 --> 00:14:47,887
my second year there.
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It was during the winter term
494
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of my third year.
495
00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,270
I knew him really well.
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00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,899
We'd met a couple
497
00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,899
of years earlier.
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00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:02,819
The guy, and my
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00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:02,819
girlfriend who was over,
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00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030
we all met at my apartment
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00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030
to have some
502
00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030
drinks beforehand,
503
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,616
and then we went
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00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,616
out to this bar.
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00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:11,786
He continued to buy
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00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:11,786
us both more drinks.
507
00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:14,706
Half an hour
508
00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:14,706
into it, I noticed
509
00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:16,957
my girlfriend seemed wasted.
510
00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:16,957
(LAUGHS)
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00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:22,797
People started to comment on
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00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:22,797
how drunk my friend seemed.
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00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:28,344
Almost instantly
514
00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:28,344
after we got into the taxi,
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00:15:28,386 --> 00:15:31,598
I just felt this extremely
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00:15:28,386 --> 00:15:31,598
heavy feeling come over me.
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My friend, she was just
518
00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:39,230
kind of passed out completely.
519
00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,275
It was,
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like, a maybe 10-minute
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ride back to my place.
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Me and my girlfriend
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kind of just flopped down,
524
00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:48,656
face first on my bed.
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The next thing I remember,
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he, um, was on top of me
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and he had a hand
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inside of my underwear
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00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,336
and he was trying to put
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00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,336
a finger inside of me.
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I yanked him by the hair,
532
00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:06,173
and I looked
533
00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,885
over and I just
534
00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,885
saw her naked back,
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00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:13,514
and I know that
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she'd fallen asleep
537
00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:13,514
with all of her clothes on.
538
00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,559
And so, my next question was,
539
00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,559
"Why is she naked?"
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00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:17,936
Um...
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And he smiled as he was
542
00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,438
still on top of me,
543
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,941
fondling me with one hand,
544
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,941
and he reached out
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00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,859
and pet her
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00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,859
naked belly and said,
547
00:16:24,901 --> 00:16:27,278
"I did that. I undressed her."
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And I asked, you know,
549
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,363
"You took off her bra?"
550
00:16:29,405 --> 00:16:32,283
Then, he...
551
00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537
He touched her naked breast,
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00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537
while she was still
553
00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537
totally unconscious,
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00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,914
and said,
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00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,914
"Yeah, I did that, too."
556
00:16:39,791 --> 00:16:41,793
And the next day he texted me.
557
00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:45,004
And I said something
558
00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:45,004
very casually, like,
559
00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174
"Am I gonna have to tell her
560
00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174
that she needs
561
00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174
a pregnancy test?"
562
00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:50,593
And he said in
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00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:50,593
the text message,
564
00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:52,553
"No, we didn't do
565
00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:52,553
anything serious.
566
00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,890
"Maybe I put
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00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,890
a finger in her v at most."
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APRIL: It seemed pretty
569
00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:03,564
clear that he had
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00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:03,564
assaulted both of them
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00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:05,733
while they were unconscious.
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00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530
I absolutely
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00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530
presumed that Harvard
574
00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530
would do right by Kamilah.
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00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285
I went to the Dean
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00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285
of Students' office,
577
00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285
and she said,
578
00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:19,205
"I just want to make sure,
579
00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:19,205
above all else,
580
00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:22,542
"that you don't talk
581
00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:22,542
to anyone about this.
582
00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753
"It could be bad for everyone
583
00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753
if people
584
00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753
started rallying around
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"having him
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00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:27,129
removed from campus."
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I was like... (LAUGHS)
588
00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:31,634
"Well, he's a predator,
589
00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970
"and he's dangerous,
590
00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970
and actually that's
591
00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970
exactly what I want."
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KAMILAH: We both had the right
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to legal representation.
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My lawyer was pro bono.
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COLBY BRUNO:
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She was a phenomenal client.
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She really told her story
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with a great
599
00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,986
deal of confidence.
600
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KAMILAH:
601
00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:52,321
I went into the hearing
602
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,823
and even
603
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,823
the professors were like,
604
00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283
"Did I give him
605
00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283
the wrong message
606
00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283
with our friendship
607
00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,077
"and that he misunderstood
608
00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,077
our friendship."
609
00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:02,623
My response was like,
610
00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:02,623
"No, because, you know,
611
00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:06,252
"sex was never part
612
00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:06,252
of that friendship.
613
00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:09,547
"And if it were ever going
614
00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:09,547
to be introduced,
615
00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591
"when I was awake
616
00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591
would be a good
617
00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591
time for that."
618
00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:17,055
I'm getting questions like,
619
00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:17,055
"Why didn't you fight him?"
620
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100
And he's like,
621
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100
I think like 6'3",
622
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100
over 200 pounds.
623
00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:26,022
I was unconscious
624
00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:26,022
or just coming to.
625
00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,816
I, like, could barely
626
00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,816
take control of my own body.
627
00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:29,817
But,
628
00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:29,817
"Why didn't you fight him?"
629
00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,697
There was this extreme
630
00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,697
reluctance to believe me.
631
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,534
DANIELLE: Campus
632
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,534
administrators are overly
633
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,079
concerned about
634
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,079
false reporting.
635
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,456
You look at
636
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,456
statistics on false reporting.
637
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,375
It's much, much smaller than
638
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,375
what people estimate it to be.
639
00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:47,961
The data about
640
00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:47,961
false rape claims
641
00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213
is that they're
642
00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213
a tiny minority
643
00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213
of all reports ever made.
644
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,800
Rape and sexual assault
645
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,800
have the same
646
00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,676
percentage of false reports
647
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,178
that any other crime
648
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,178
has in our country.
649
00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,390
The best research
650
00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,390
from around the world
651
00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811
would put the percentage
652
00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811
of false reports
653
00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811
somewhere between two and 8%.
654
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,608
Which means 90%
655
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695
but more likely 95
656
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695
to 98% of reports,
657
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695
are not false.
658
00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:21,119
We got done with the hearing
659
00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:21,119
probably at 4:30 or 5:00.
660
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,287
And they came
661
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,287
back very quickly.
662
00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:26,165
They'd found that
663
00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:26,165
he had assaulted me.
664
00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,919
COLBY: When we got the call
665
00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,919
that he was expelled,
666
00:19:29,961 --> 00:19:31,796
she was in utter disbelief.
667
00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173
And that doesn't
668
00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173
come very often
669
00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173
with these college cases.
670
00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:40,179
KAMILAH: The next September,
671
00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:40,179
I came back to Cambridge,
672
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,640
and I got a Facebook message
673
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,640
from the Dean of Students.
674
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272
She said that the assailant,
675
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272
he could appeal
676
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272
the ad board's decision,
677
00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:53,609
and they voted again
678
00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:53,609
on whether to uphold
679
00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,069
the decision to remove him
680
00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,821
and decided to
681
00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,821
let him back in.
682
00:20:12,837 --> 00:20:14,755
COLBY: The message is clear.
683
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,508
It's, "Don't proceed through
684
00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,508
these disciplinary hearings.
685
00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:21,220
"No matter what you do,
686
00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:21,220
you're not gonna win."
687
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452
ANDREA: I was like,
688
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452
"Well, you know what?
689
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452
I'm okay.
690
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079
"And I've never had
691
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079
anything happen to me,
692
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079
and I'm fine.
693
00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:30,289
"I'm gonna get through this."
694
00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,458
But I started
695
00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,458
feeling different.
696
00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,934
Not only was my mind
697
00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,934
in a place of turmoil,
698
00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,561
my body was, as well.
699
00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563
I had nightmares
700
00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563
that were so vivid
701
00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563
that I would wake up
702
00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399
and my neck was
703
00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399
bleeding of how much
704
00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399
I was scratching off
705
00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,985
that invisible
706
00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,985
rapist on my neck again.
707
00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:10,454
So, finally, when it became
708
00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:10,454
very overwhelming,
709
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,332
I knew that I couldn't
710
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,332
keep denying it anymore.
711
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378
So, actually,
712
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378
the first person I told
713
00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378
was Annie Clark.
714
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,506
She was a senior
715
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,506
when I was a first year.
716
00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,926
I kind of facebooked her
717
00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,926
and I said, you know,
718
00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:25,343
"Can I talk to you
719
00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:25,343
about something?"
720
00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,391
Hey, it's Annie.
721
00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,391
Yeah, how are you doing?
722
00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:32,893
ANDREA:
723
00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:32,893
I mean, we just hit it off.
724
00:22:32,935 --> 00:22:34,895
Oh, my gosh.
725
00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106
ANDREA: She,
726
00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106
till this day, has been my
727
00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106
greatest support system.
728
00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357
Are you in a place...
729
00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357
Do you feel comfortable
730
00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357
talking about it, or...
731
00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:41,694
ANDREA:
732
00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:41,694
After I spoke to Annie,
733
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,030
I came out publicly
734
00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,030
to the entire campus
735
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,364
in October of
736
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,364
my sophomore year
737
00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:47,992
with a project called
738
00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:47,992
the Courage Project,
739
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,536
which was a photo project
740
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,536
of survivors on campus.
741
00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126
As I became more public,
742
00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126
I became kind of
743
00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126
that gateway for people
744
00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712
to actually
745
00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712
start talking about
746
00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712
what had happened to them.
747
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864
Within four weeks,
748
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864
I met nine rape
749
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864
survivors at UNC.
750
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,617
My school needed to know
751
00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,617
this was a problem,
752
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036
and I thought
753
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036
that they honestly
754
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036
just didn't know.
755
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,749
I made meetings with
756
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,749
the Vice-Chancellor,
757
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,209
and I made meetings
758
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,209
with the Dean of Students,
759
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,961
and they were passed off
760
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,961
and ignored and delayed.
761
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798
And I kept saying,
762
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798
"UNC has a problem
763
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798
with sexual assault."
764
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,885
I had the same meeting with
765
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,885
the Chancellor four years ago,
766
00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304
and it's like as
767
00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304
soon as there's
768
00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304
a new cycle of students,
769
00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:51,764
there's no
770
00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:51,764
institutional memory,
771
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,140
and the problem
772
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,140
starts all over again.
773
00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:54,850
And so, unless you have...
774
00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644
To see it happen
775
00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644
with my friends
776
00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644
going through the same thing
777
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,232
I experienced six years ago,
778
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,232
it's heartbreaking.
779
00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694
And it's...
780
00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694
That has affected me
781
00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694
more than my own rape.
782
00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,572
People stop talking about it,
783
00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,572
and then it just continues
784
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:12,243
and then it makes you wonder,
785
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:12,243
what is it gonna take?
786
00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,494
ANNIE: And we started working
787
00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,494
with Dean Melinda Manning,
788
00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165
who was somebody
789
00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165
who a lot of survivors
790
00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165
have worked with and trusted.
791
00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:20,000
INTERVIEWER:
792
00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:20,000
So, in your time at UNC,
793
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128
how many students came to you
794
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128
and said they'd
795
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128
been assaulted?
796
00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:23,170
Um...
797
00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,591
Yeah, it's hard to put
798
00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,591
a number on it, so...
799
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:29,467
At least a hundred.
800
00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,346
INTERVIEWER:
801
00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,346
And of the hundred,
802
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:35,224
how many of the perpetrators
803
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:35,224
were removed from campus?
804
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185
From what I remember,
805
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185
no one was
806
00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185
expelled during that time.
807
00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,271
So, these guys could
808
00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,271
just get away with it?
809
00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:42,273
Absolutely. Absolutely.
810
00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,318
And people could
811
00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,318
commit it repeatedly.
812
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,362
I was certainly
813
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,362
aware of some individuals
814
00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:50,656
who had committed it
815
00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:50,656
repeatedly.
816
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,204
CAROLINE HELDMAN:
817
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,204
A survivor at Occidental
818
00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,204
College contacted me.
819
00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459
I noticed that her
820
00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459
rapist's name matched
821
00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459
the name of two other cases.
822
00:25:01,499 --> 00:25:04,211
So, she was the third student
823
00:25:01,499 --> 00:25:04,211
to be raped by this student.
824
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:09,425
Um, and the most
825
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:09,425
troubling aspect of this case
826
00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888
is that he was allowed back,
827
00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888
or is allowed to
828
00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888
come back onto campus.
829
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476
I thought it was only one,
830
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476
but now I know
831
00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476
there's two other women.
832
00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813
And who knows who else
833
00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813
who just wasn't
834
00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813
able to step forward.
835
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234
LEAH TRUJILLO: It seemed like
836
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234
prime hunting ground
837
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234
for someone like him.
838
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,279
HOPE BRINN:
839
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,279
My assailant, he's done
840
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,279
much worse to other people.
841
00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,530
He has assaulted
842
00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,530
at least four different women.
843
00:25:32,572 --> 00:25:35,451
That's just who I know of.
844
00:25:32,572 --> 00:25:35,451
(SCOFFS)
845
00:25:35,493 --> 00:25:37,703
About two weeks
846
00:25:35,493 --> 00:25:37,703
after I reported,
847
00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:41,581
I got a call from
848
00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:41,581
the detective saying
849
00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629
that they found
850
00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629
two other girls
851
00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629
that he had previously raped.
852
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:51,800
And they were both
853
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:51,800
University of Tulsa students,
854
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:54,552
and they had both
855
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:54,552
reported to the school.
856
00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,227
DAVID LISAK: The vast
857
00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,227
majority of men don't rape,
858
00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:04,313
won't rape, haven't raped.
859
00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:06,023
So, when you start
860
00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:06,023
looking at then
861
00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,025
the rapists who are
862
00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,025
committing these crimes,
863
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861
it is the repeat offenders
864
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861
who are the core
865
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861
of this problem.
866
00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874
MAN 2: I was incarcerated
867
00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874
for six and a half
868
00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874
years for sexual assault.
869
00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:27,420
I know I was at fault.
870
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,925
You know, like I said, I guess
871
00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:34,760
the reason I really
872
00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:34,760
wanted to do this interview
873
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:38,472
was to maybe help
874
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:38,472
someone else out.
875
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:42,142
You know, maybe have
876
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:42,142
them become aware of,
877
00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,562
you know,
878
00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,562
what they're doing wrong.
879
00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565
DAVID: The really
880
00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565
practiced sex offenders
881
00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565
identify groups of people
882
00:26:47,647 --> 00:26:49,816
who are more vulnerable.
883
00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:52,819
College is a place where
884
00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:52,819
lots of alcohol's consumed
885
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,031
and, uh, the number
886
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,031
of victims is endless.
887
00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:02,121
DAVID: These men select
888
00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:02,121
victims ahead of time.
889
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665
It could be a bar.
890
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665
It could be a fraternity party
891
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665
where people are drinking.
892
00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:09,627
MAN 2: At the parties,
893
00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:09,627
like, frat parties,
894
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,547
I mean,
895
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,547
people are getting wasted.
896
00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632
So, it's not like
897
00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632
a lot of the time,
898
00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632
depending on who they're with,
899
00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:19,637
nobody, um, keeps
900
00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:19,637
an eye on them.
901
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,515
DAVID: The alcohol is
902
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,515
essentially a weapon
903
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562
that is used to
904
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562
render somebody
905
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562
extremely vulnerable.
906
00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817
MAN 2: Alcohol
907
00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817
definitely makes it easier
908
00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817
to overpower a victim.
909
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573
If they're inebriated
910
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573
or under the influence,
911
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573
less struggle, for sure.
912
00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:39,450
DAVID: And then
913
00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:39,450
there's an isolation phase.
914
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536
So, you know, somebody who
915
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536
has deliberately
916
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536
gotten this young woman
917
00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539
extremely intoxicated,
918
00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539
and at some
919
00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539
point he says to her,
920
00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:47,583
"I'll walk you
921
00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:47,583
back to your room."
922
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461
Or, "You can sleep
923
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461
it off if you want.
924
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461
We have a bed upstairs."
925
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,381
And that's where
926
00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,381
the assault occurs.
927
00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:07,727
MELINDA: A lot of people say,
928
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062
"Why don't they
929
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062
just have students
930
00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062
go to the police?"
931
00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:12,316
I have a lot of good friends
932
00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:12,316
who are police officers,
933
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:16,320
and I love them dearly,
934
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:16,320
but they have some work to do.
935
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:27,039
Even if law enforcement
936
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:27,039
does do a good job,
937
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915
a lot of district attorneys
938
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915
don't want to
939
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915
take these cases.
940
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,300
And even if
941
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,300
there is prosecution,
942
00:28:38,342 --> 00:28:39,843
it takes a long time.
943
00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:41,679
It takes a year, two years.
944
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,390
In the meantime,
945
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,390
that alleged perpetrator
946
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,725
could do it again
947
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,725
and again and again.
948
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,770
So, universities,
949
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,770
if they have good evidence
950
00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,566
that somebody is perpetrating
951
00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,566
that crime on that campus,
952
00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568
they should remove them
953
00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568
to protect their
954
00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568
other students,
955
00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:57,486
with or without the police.
956
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,658
WOMAN 3: No more violence!
957
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,658
ALL: No more rape!
958
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,618
ALL: No more silence!
959
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,618
No more hate!
960
00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:07,913
(CHEERING)
961
00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:13,752
CAROL TRACY: What we're seeing
962
00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:13,752
today has been going on
963
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,255
for a very long time
964
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,255
on college campuses.
965
00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302
Sexual violence has always
966
00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302
been part of
967
00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302
the college experience.
968
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:24,221
(BELL TOLLS)
969
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,307
REPORTER 1:
970
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,307
Here at Brown University,
971
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,307
names of men accused of rape
972
00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:30,519
appeared on bathroom walls
973
00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:30,519
all over the campus.
974
00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:35,190
The administration
975
00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:35,190
called the tactic vigilantism.
976
00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:38,402
One student had a word
977
00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:38,402
for the women who did it.
978
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821
Idiots.
979
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821
I have a lot of
980
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821
friends on the list,
981
00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:43,907
and by no means
982
00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:43,907
are they rapists.
983
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,910
They might be aggressive
984
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,910
at parties, flirtatious.
985
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:49,788
And if girls carry a grudge,
986
00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:49,788
they call them rapists.
987
00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:52,165
And to be saying that
988
00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:52,165
just because a woman says "no"
989
00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:54,793
and because you have sex,
990
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129
those are the two facts.
991
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129
The woman said
992
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129
"no" and you had sex.
993
00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,591
Then are you a rapist
994
00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,591
automatically because of that?
995
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,259
REPORTER 2: A national
996
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,259
study says one out of
997
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,637
every four female
998
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,637
college students
999
00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:08,348
will be the victim of a rape
1000
00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:08,348
or attempted sexual assault.
1001
00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018
The first national
1002
00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018
study was done...
1003
00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018
Published in 1987.
1004
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:15,814
Mary Koss' survey of colleges
1005
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:15,814
around the country.
1006
00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068
And those numbers
1007
00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068
have been replicated
1008
00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068
over and over again.
1009
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321
Good evening.
1010
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321
As troubling as
1011
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321
your statistics, Garick,
1012
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,823
are charges that this date
1013
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,823
or acquaintance rape
1014
00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:27,534
is being hidden
1015
00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:27,534
by universities and colleges
1016
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287
in order to
1017
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287
protect their image
1018
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287
among prospective students
1019
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:31,163
and their families.
1020
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800
ANNIE:
1021
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800
We had been trying to change
1022
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800
the university for years,
1023
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,551
and nothing was
1024
00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,551
getting any better.
1025
00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:48,221
And so, we started
1026
00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:48,221
looking to do something
1027
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:52,058
to force them or shame them
1028
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:52,058
into doing the right thing.
1029
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228
ANDREA: We started digging
1030
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228
and doing months
1031
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228
and months of research.
1032
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,023
ANNIE: On sexual harassment
1033
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,023
law, on rape statutes.
1034
00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,109
ANDREA: And then I read
1035
00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,109
about Title IX.
1036
00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,446
ANNIE: Title IX is
1037
00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,446
a gender equity law.
1038
00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033
And it guarantees
1039
00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033
anyone the right
1040
00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033
to an equal education.
1041
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,787
When perpetrators
1042
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,787
are allowed to remain
1043
00:31:11,829 --> 00:31:13,997
on campus and
1044
00:31:11,829 --> 00:31:13,997
schools don't expel them,
1045
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,124
even when they're
1046
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,124
found responsible,
1047
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:18,084
then they're in
1048
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:18,084
violation of Title IX
1049
00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,380
for contributing to
1050
00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,380
a hostile environment.
1051
00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:24,216
If a school is found in
1052
00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:24,216
violation of Title IX,
1053
00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:27,177
the government has the power
1054
00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:27,177
to revoke all federal funds,
1055
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138
which would hopefully
1056
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138
force a school to
1057
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138
be in compliance.
1058
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,599
Title IX and
1059
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,599
the pending Campus Save Act
1060
00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,476
and now this law? Like, what?
1061
00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:38,188
ANNIE: And so, we decided to
1062
00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:38,188
file a Title IX Complaint.
1063
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,982
You basically write
1064
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,982
to the Department of Education
1065
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,194
and you not only explain
1066
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,194
what happened to you,
1067
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281
but you also explain
1068
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281
how it's
1069
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281
a violation of Title IX.
1070
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,201
So, it is Thursday night,
1071
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,201
and instead of going out,
1072
00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,413
we are in, learning case law
1073
00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,413
until we know Title IX
1074
00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:57,499
and the case law
1075
00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:57,499
like the back of our hands.
1076
00:31:57,541 --> 00:31:59,752
I had earbuds in.
1077
00:31:57,541 --> 00:31:59,752
If I was walking,
1078
00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,336
if I was, you know,
1079
00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,336
going on a run or whatever,
1080
00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547
instead of music
1081
00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547
there were
1082
00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547
supreme court cases.
1083
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,591
ANDREA:
1084
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,591
I read all the case law
1085
00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:07,967
on all existing
1086
00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:07,967
Title IX cases.
1087
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:09,720
ANNIE: Like,
1088
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:09,720
we're sleeping in shifts.
1089
00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,346
I would write for three hours
1090
00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100
and then sleep
1091
00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100
for three hours,
1092
00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100
and she would do the same.
1093
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686
ANDREA: And I learned that you
1094
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686
don't have to be
1095
00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686
a lawyer to file it,
1096
00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857
that you could
1097
00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857
be 20 and take on
1098
00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857
a 200-year-old university.
1099
00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,276
ANNIE:
1100
00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,276
We didn't know how to file.
1101
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:27,863
So, we faxed it, we emailed
1102
00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:27,863
it, and we mailed it.
1103
00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:30,073
We didn't know what to expect,
1104
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702
and so, I go into
1105
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702
my university
1106
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702
mail office one day,
1107
00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080
and I have this big
1108
00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080
envelope from
1109
00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080
the Department of Education,
1110
00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:40,292
and I'm just,
1111
00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:40,292
like, freaking out.
1112
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545
I'm, like,
1113
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545
crying, I'm calling Drea,
1114
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545
Melinda, I'm just like,
1115
00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,964
"They took our case.
1116
00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,964
They took our case."
1117
00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:50,135
REPORTER 3: Flat out denial.
1118
00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,512
Leaders at UNC say accusations
1119
00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,512
that the university
1120
00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,515
underreported sexual
1121
00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,515
assault cases is false.
1122
00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226
REPORTER 4: UNC Chapel Hill
1123
00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226
General Council,
1124
00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226
Leslie Strohm,
1125
00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730
pointed out what a false
1126
00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730
claim can do to
1127
00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730
a university's reputation.
1128
00:33:01,772 --> 00:33:05,108
The allegations are false.
1129
00:33:01,772 --> 00:33:05,108
They are untrue.
1130
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,402
And they are just plain wrong.
1131
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:15,160
ANNIE: "False. Untrue.
1132
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:15,160
And just plain wrong."
1133
00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:18,789
That resonates in my head.
1134
00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:18,789
I hear that when I sleep.
1135
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:20,248
To say,
1136
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:20,248
"None of this happened.
1137
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,542
"We're not underreporting.
1138
00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,542
We didn't mess up."
1139
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:23,752
It's just betrayal.
1140
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,090
DANIELLE: Schools are
1141
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,090
actively and aggressively
1142
00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,717
not wanting to
1143
00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,717
tell the truth about
1144
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,218
what's going on
1145
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,218
in their campuses
1146
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,096
because the first campuses
1147
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,096
to do so will be,
1148
00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:36,807
you know, kind of known as
1149
00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:36,807
the rape campuses,
1150
00:33:36,849 --> 00:33:38,517
where they actually
1151
00:33:36,849 --> 00:33:38,517
have a rape problem.
1152
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770
But, you know, rape
1153
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770
is happening on all
1154
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770
college campuses,
1155
00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564
and there are
1156
00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564
perverse economic
1157
00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564
and reputational incentives
1158
00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:46,107
to hide those numbers.
1159
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,903
I analogize it to
1160
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,903
getting a letter.
1161
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073
So, you're a parent
1162
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073
and you get a letter
1163
00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073
in the middle of the summer,
1164
00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,994
and it says, "Dear Mr.
1165
00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,994
and Mrs. Schultz,
1166
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,788
"we're so happy that Johnny
1167
00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,788
is going to be a freshman,
1168
00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:02,624
"and we thought we might
1169
00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:02,624
need to let you know
1170
00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378
"that there's
1171
00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378
a one-in-four or five chance
1172
00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378
that while Johnny's here,
1173
00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,464
"he's going to be the victim
1174
00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,464
of a drive-by shooting."
1175
00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,466
What's so vexing
1176
00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,466
about this problem
1177
00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,970
is that the shooters
1178
00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,970
are other students.
1179
00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:16,513
"Thank you so much
1180
00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:16,513
for your tuition money.
1181
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432
"We so look
1182
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432
forward to welcoming
1183
00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432
Johnny in the fall."
1184
00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:24,437
Would any parent send
1185
00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:24,437
his or her child there?
1186
00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,648
They protect perpetrators,
1187
00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,648
I think, across the board
1188
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317
because they have
1189
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317
a financial
1190
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317
incentive to do so.
1191
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,236
Perpetrators who are found
1192
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,236
responsible for rape
1193
00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,947
are much more likely
1194
00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,947
to sue institutions
1195
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076
than survivors are,
1196
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076
and institutions
1197
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076
like to avoid lawsuits.
1198
00:34:38,117 --> 00:34:40,746
And so, in an effort
1199
00:34:38,117 --> 00:34:40,746
to avoid lawsuits,
1200
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,664
they pretty much
1201
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,664
do whatever they can
1202
00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:44,249
to give them
1203
00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:44,249
a slap on the wrist.
1204
00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:49,046
(NARRATOR READING)
1205
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,152
(GASPING)
1206
00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,087
Any allegation of
1207
00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,087
sexual assault is something
1208
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,130
that we at the university
1209
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,130
take very seriously.
1210
00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,548
REPORTER 5:
1211
00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,548
ASU issued a statement
1212
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,592
saying in part,
1213
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,592
"Arizona State University
1214
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,303
"takes all sexual misconduct
1215
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,303
complaints very seriously."
1216
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,554
The University
1217
00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,554
says it's taking
1218
00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:42,181
these allegations
1219
00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:42,181
very seriously.
1220
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:44,726
We take all
1221
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:44,726
incidents very seriously.
1222
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,645
JIM MORA:
1223
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,645
"We take these accusations
1224
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,645
very seriously."
1225
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,897
WOMAN 4: "We take reports
1226
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,897
like this very seriously."
1227
00:35:48,939 --> 00:35:51,900
They take all
1228
00:35:48,939 --> 00:35:51,900
reports very seriously.
1229
00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653
MAN 3: "James Madison
1230
00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653
University takes
1231
00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653
the safety and well being
1232
00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:56,947
"of our students
1233
00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:56,947
very seriously."
1234
00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:59,616
So, what's the punishment?
1235
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:02,327
MAN 3: All three
1236
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:02,327
students responsible
1237
00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:04,913
for sexual
1238
00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:04,913
assault and harassment,
1239
00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:07,582
expelled upon graduation.
1240
00:36:07,624 --> 00:36:09,250
Yes! Justice!
1241
00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,044
(CROWD LAUGHS)
1242
00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,044
Unbe... Wait a minute.
1243
00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:15,173
Expelled upon graduation?
1244
00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:21,346
Isn't that graduation?
1245
00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:25,725
(BELL TOLLING)
1246
00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,191
MAN 4: We will strive to
1247
00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,191
build a community
1248
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:37,195
where education, inquiry,
1249
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:37,195
and faith combine
1250
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,073
to respond to
1251
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,073
the demands of justice.
1252
00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:44,536
This is our goal,
1253
00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,539
that no one ever say
1254
00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,539
that we dreamed too small.
1255
00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,463
PAT COTTRELL: My career in law
1256
00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,463
enforcement started in 1969
1257
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424
from the South
1258
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424
Bend Police Department
1259
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424
and then went to
1260
00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:00,802
the University of
1261
00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:00,802
Notre Dame Police Department.
1262
00:37:00,844 --> 00:37:02,846
University students are...
1263
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:05,640
They're just wonderful kids.
1264
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311
But there's...
1265
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311
Just like anywhere,
1266
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311
there's a percentage
1267
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:17,318
of, um, absolutely horrible
1268
00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:17,318
people too, you know.
1269
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,238
And, of course,
1270
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,238
I had to deal with that, too.
1271
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:28,080
RACHEL HUDAK:
1272
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:28,080
Saint Mary's is the
1273
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:28,080
sister school to Notre Dame.
1274
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875
It's one of the best
1275
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875
catholic all-women's
1276
00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875
colleges in the nation,
1277
00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:33,210
and I was proud to go there.
1278
00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632
I was really
1279
00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632
happy I was part of
1280
00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632
campus ministries.
1281
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:43,720
I decided to be
1282
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:43,720
a biology major.
1283
00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:47,849
I had a dream of
1284
00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:47,849
going to medical school.
1285
00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,351
Compared to my sister,
1286
00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,351
I'm more of a book person,
1287
00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:52,938
and she kind of
1288
00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:52,938
always made fun of me
1289
00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,232
'cause I liked to
1290
00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,232
stay in on the weekends,
1291
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,276
and she'd kind of say
1292
00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,276
I was a party pooper
1293
00:37:58,317 --> 00:38:00,153
and want me to
1294
00:37:58,317 --> 00:38:00,153
come out and stuff.
1295
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:02,280
And I did go out.
1296
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:02,280
And it was fun.
1297
00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,118
It was Halloween.
1298
00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:11,330
A call came in on my phone.
1299
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709
It was from someone I knew
1300
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709
who went to Notre Dame.
1301
00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:19,297
He's like, "You have to come
1302
00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:19,297
to a Halloween party."
1303
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,717
You know, I trust people.
1304
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,717
I trusted what he said.
1305
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,222
So, you know,
1306
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,222
I just went along with it.
1307
00:38:28,932 --> 00:38:31,559
We got to his dorm.
1308
00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:34,771
You know, I asked him, "Well,
1309
00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:34,771
where is everyone else?"
1310
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:38,108
And he's like,
1311
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:38,108
"Oh, they're coming."
1312
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321
And eventually
1313
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321
his friends left,
1314
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321
and it was just me and him.
1315
00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,454
(CRYING) And
1316
00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,454
that's when it happened.
1317
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,127
She, of course, said, "No."
1318
00:38:57,169 --> 00:39:00,421
You know, trying to keep him
1319
00:38:57,169 --> 00:39:00,421
from doing what he was doing.
1320
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676
And then he eventually
1321
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676
just forced her
1322
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676
and raped her.
1323
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724
Lieutenant
1324
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724
Cottrell interviewed
1325
00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724
all the people that,
1326
00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,186
you know, I had
1327
00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,186
known that were involved.
1328
00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:16,980
In my opinion,
1329
00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:16,980
I had a conspiracy
1330
00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777
of not only
1331
00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777
the suspect that was involved
1332
00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777
in raping the victim,
1333
00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:28,491
but I also had friends of his
1334
00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:28,491
that helped convince her
1335
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,368
that there was a party
1336
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,368
that she was going to.
1337
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:36,582
PAT: The University had
1338
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:36,582
their judicial hearing.
1339
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089
I had this idealistic view
1340
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089
that if I was
1341
00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089
telling the truth
1342
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:44,632
that they would support me.
1343
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:46,009
And, um...
1344
00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:48,386
They didn't.
1345
00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:48,386
(CHUCKLES)
1346
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:54,559
They preferred to
1347
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:54,559
have the crime stats
1348
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,689
as low as possible
1349
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,689
so that, you know,
1350
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278
it doesn't
1351
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278
detract from applicants
1352
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278
to the University.
1353
00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492
RACHEL: I met with the
1354
00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492
president of Saint Mary's,
1355
00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492
Dr. Mooney.
1356
00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415
Hello, I'm Carol Ann Mooney,
1357
00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415
President of
1358
00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415
Saint Mary's college.
1359
00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755
Saint Mary's must
1360
00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755
always be committed
1361
00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755
to providing our students
1362
00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,009
with an excellent intellectual
1363
00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,009
and academic experience.
1364
00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429
She kind of blew it off
1365
00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429
and didn't take it seriously,
1366
00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429
you know.
1367
00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309
RACHEL: She said,
1368
00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309
"Well, these things
1369
00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309
don't happen here."
1370
00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,360
PAT:
1371
00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,360
It got worse and worse for me
1372
00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,360
as the years went along.
1373
00:40:45,735 --> 00:40:47,779
Um...
1374
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,284
Not only dealing with what
1375
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,284
happened to the victim,
1376
00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:57,289
but also dealing with
1377
00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:57,289
what the university did.
1378
00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:01,459
My bosses were
1379
00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:01,459
saying that they
1380
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,172
had empathy for
1381
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,172
victims of crimes,
1382
00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:10,718
but it was like I told them,
1383
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,388
that "Talk is cheap.
1384
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:16,849
"And that's all it is
1385
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:16,849
with you guys is talk.
1386
00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:19,644
"You don't really
1387
00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:19,644
support victims of crimes.
1388
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:22,814
"I do.
1389
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,399
"And I can't work
1390
00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,399
for you any longer."
1391
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:30,989
RACHEL: I didn't
1392
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:30,989
really talk about it.
1393
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,365
I kind of just...
1394
00:41:32,407 --> 00:41:33,950
(BREATHES DEEPLY)
1395
00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371
...stayed in my room
1396
00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371
for a couple months
1397
00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371
until Christmas.
1398
00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:42,208
And I didn't sleep.
1399
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,543
My nights and
1400
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,543
days were mixed up.
1401
00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:47,005
I had to, um...
1402
00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,508
Couldn't go to class,
1403
00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,508
and so I cut down.
1404
00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:54,846
I just completely
1405
00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:54,846
changed as a person.
1406
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394
CAROLINE: I think
1407
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394
the biggest reason
1408
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394
why it's so hard
1409
00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:02,687
to be on a college campus
1410
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:05,731
after you've been raped
1411
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:05,731
or sexually assaulted
1412
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,859
is that it's
1413
00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,859
a small place, right,
1414
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,402
where everything
1415
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,402
is structured.
1416
00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:10,611
Your living
1417
00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:10,611
space is structured,
1418
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,530
your eating
1419
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,530
space is structured,
1420
00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:13,990
so, you're gonna
1421
00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:13,990
run into your rapist.
1422
00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619
I couldn't go out.
1423
00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619
Like, I couldn't
1424
00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619
mingle with strangers.
1425
00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,164
I felt the campus getting
1426
00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,164
smaller and smaller to me.
1427
00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124
There were less
1428
00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124
and less places
1429
00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124
I felt comfortable going.
1430
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:26,169
I walk around with
1431
00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:26,169
my pepper spray on my keys,
1432
00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:28,754
and I'm always just on edge.
1433
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,219
DAVID: There's a whole
1434
00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,219
physiological side to PTSD.
1435
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,595
When you experience
1436
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,595
a traumatic event like this,
1437
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:39,765
your nervous system,
1438
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,935
tends to get very reactive.
1439
00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,188
I started having
1440
00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,188
more panic attacks.
1441
00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066
When I was in my
1442
00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066
depressed state,
1443
00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066
I just slept all day long.
1444
00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:49,650
I couldn't stop crying.
1445
00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777
I couldn't stop
1446
00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777
thinking about it.
1447
00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777
I self-harmed.
1448
00:42:53,321 --> 00:42:56,491
During the vacation between
1449
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494
I guess, semester
1450
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494
one and semester two,
1451
00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494
I tried to kill myself.
1452
00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583
I had a lot of,
1453
00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583
I mean, of course depression,
1454
00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583
suicidal thoughts.
1455
00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:09,462
REPORTER 6: Trey Malone took
1456
00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:09,462
his own life last June.
1457
00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631
In his suicide note,
1458
00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631
Malone wrote
1459
00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631
about being sexually abused
1460
00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:15,301
while a student
1461
00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:15,301
at Amherst College,
1462
00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:17,929
and the school's
1463
00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:17,929
lack of response.
1464
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,265
Men are sexually assaulted.
1465
00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:23,642
And typically that is
1466
00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:23,642
perpetrated by other men.
1467
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230
And I think for
1468
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230
a lot of male survivors
1469
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230
who are sexually assaulted,
1470
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775
it challenges many beliefs
1471
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775
that they have
1472
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775
about themselves.
1473
00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,735
Men aren't supposed
1474
00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,735
to become vulnerable.
1475
00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488
They always say,
1476
00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488
"You allowed yourself
1477
00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488
to do it. Why did you do it?
1478
00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:37,198
"Why didn't you
1479
00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:37,198
fight them off?"
1480
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117
Men have to be strong,
1481
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117
and men wouldn't let
1482
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117
this happen to them.
1483
00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,538
Because of
1484
00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,538
the emphasis there is
1485
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:47,542
on it being
1486
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:47,542
a crime against females,
1487
00:43:47,584 --> 00:43:50,711
men feel less comfortable
1488
00:43:47,584 --> 00:43:50,711
coming forward with it.
1489
00:43:50,753 --> 00:43:55,007
Reporting rates amongst men
1490
00:43:50,753 --> 00:43:55,007
are just so infinitesimal
1491
00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885
that it actually
1492
00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885
makes it very hard
1493
00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885
to do research on this,
1494
00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641
let alone to get
1495
00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641
a real understanding
1496
00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641
of the scope of the problem.
1497
00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:24,745
ANDREA:
1498
00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:24,745
You are built from the ground
1499
00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:24,745
as a Tar Heel,
1500
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207
as a member of a community
1501
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207
that is so much
1502
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207
bigger than you.
1503
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,461
I was directly
1504
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,461
going against it.
1505
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,590
Tonight the US
1506
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,590
Department of Education
1507
00:44:35,632 --> 00:44:37,300
has launched its
1508
00:44:35,632 --> 00:44:37,300
own investigation
1509
00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,636
into how UNC
1510
00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,636
Chapel Hill has been
1511
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:44,015
handling sexual
1512
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:44,015
assault cases on campus.
1513
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726
ANNIE: It wasn't until
1514
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726
we filed the complaint
1515
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726
that the retaliation started.
1516
00:44:47,768 --> 00:44:48,853
And it's been bad.
1517
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,109
I've gotten death threats,
1518
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,109
I've gotten rape threats.
1519
00:44:55,151 --> 00:44:57,278
Of course, Internet trolls
1520
00:44:55,151 --> 00:44:57,278
are always there.
1521
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033
But I had one
1522
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033
in-person threat,
1523
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033
which was kind of scary. Um...
1524
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:04,494
"Bang-bang, bitch. Die."
1525
00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,663
ANDREA: My residence
1526
00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,663
hall was broken into,
1527
00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,705
and it was
1528
00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,705
completely vandalized.
1529
00:45:08,747 --> 00:45:11,917
Spray paint everywhere,
1530
00:45:08,747 --> 00:45:11,917
a knife was left behind.
1531
00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:13,710
And messages were
1532
00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:13,710
painted all over.
1533
00:45:18,007 --> 00:45:21,302
I felt like I was in
1534
00:45:18,007 --> 00:45:21,302
danger all the time,
1535
00:45:21,344 --> 00:45:25,264
and that's what I thought of
1536
00:45:21,344 --> 00:45:25,264
when I went to classes.
1537
00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,559
I went, you know, from being
1538
00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,559
valedictorian in high school
1539
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687
and then, you know,
1540
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687
struggling to
1541
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687
finish my classes.
1542
00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398
And not knowing how
1543
00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398
to tell my parents,
1544
00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398
which I never did.
1545
00:45:37,734 --> 00:45:39,612
INTERVIEWER:
1546
00:45:37,734 --> 00:45:39,612
Can you talk a little bit
1547
00:45:37,734 --> 00:45:39,612
about what it was like
1548
00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:41,738
when your parents found out?
1549
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:42,823
They still don't know.
1550
00:45:42,865 --> 00:45:43,908
INTERVIEWER:
1551
00:45:42,865 --> 00:45:43,908
They still don't know.
1552
00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:45,159
Yeah.
1553
00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,785
Um... (CHUCKLES)
1554
00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:51,916
I thought about telling them
1555
00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:51,916
many, many times.
1556
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,753
And I didn't tell my parents
1557
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,753
until a couple days later,
1558
00:45:56,795 --> 00:45:58,423
which was probably,
1559
00:45:56,795 --> 00:45:58,423
like, the hardest
1560
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,342
thing I've ever
1561
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,342
had to do, ever.
1562
00:46:03,802 --> 00:46:05,096
Now I'm gonna start crying.
1563
00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:06,514
INTERVIEWER:
1564
00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:06,514
It's okay, you can cry.
1565
00:46:06,556 --> 00:46:08,516
You don't have to hold it in.
1566
00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,142
Like,
1567
00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,142
I remember skyping my dad...
1568
00:46:13,605 --> 00:46:16,232
INTERVIEWER: What worries
1569
00:46:13,605 --> 00:46:16,232
you about telling them?
1570
00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:19,110
The conversation afterwards.
1571
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,530
I worry that they'd
1572
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,530
look at me differently.
1573
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,619
I'm worried that they'd
1574
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,619
want to talk about it again.
1575
00:46:31,788 --> 00:46:34,041
And just the fact
1576
00:46:31,788 --> 00:46:34,041
that they would know.
1577
00:46:37,044 --> 00:46:38,421
That it would just be
1578
00:46:37,044 --> 00:46:38,421
there in their minds
1579
00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:41,090
when they looked at me.
1580
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,050
Just to hear my
1581
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,050
mom's voice on the phone,
1582
00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:45,136
her feeling so
1583
00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:45,136
helpless in that moment,
1584
00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514
is probably one of
1585
00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514
the worst aspects
1586
00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514
of this entire ordeal,
1587
00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016
which probably makes me
1588
00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016
the most angry
1589
00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016
at my assailant.
1590
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771
(CHUCKLES) My mom
1591
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771
was on the plane
1592
00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771
the next day after I told her.
1593
00:46:58,316 --> 00:46:59,317
(SOBS)
1594
00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:06,491
My dad, he wears
1595
00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:06,491
his Notre Dame ring every day.
1596
00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993
I've never seen
1597
00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993
him take it off,
1598
00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993
and he didn't...
1599
00:47:09,034 --> 00:47:11,287
He wasn't wearing it anymore.
1600
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541
His finger that
1601
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541
has a permanent mark
1602
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541
from his ring
1603
00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:17,251
and didn't have his ring on.
1604
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:19,170
And it just...
1605
00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:23,341
It was even more heartbreaking
1606
00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:23,341
for me to watch my dad.
1607
00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843
I call her from
1608
00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843
a thousand miles away
1609
00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843
and tell her this.
1610
00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:31,390
And I just wanted
1611
00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:31,390
her to be there.
1612
00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:45,196
TOM SEEBERG:
1613
00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:45,196
Lizzy always had this
1614
00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:45,196
big, beautiful, radiant smile.
1615
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:49,033
It was electric, and it made
1616
00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:49,033
other people happy.
1617
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,163
We had 11 family
1618
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,163
members attend Notre Dame
1619
00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709
and two family members,
1620
00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709
including Lizzy,
1621
00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709
that went to Saint Mary's.
1622
00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,795
And she, I think,
1623
00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,795
really felt affirmed
1624
00:48:00,837 --> 00:48:04,131
that this was
1625
00:48:00,837 --> 00:48:04,131
the right choice.
1626
00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:07,259
She was really,
1627
00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:07,259
really happy to be there.
1628
00:48:07,301 --> 00:48:08,469
(COUNTRY MUSIC PLAYING)
1629
00:48:08,511 --> 00:48:10,095
♪ And a little bit
1630
00:48:08,511 --> 00:48:10,095
of chicken fried ♪
1631
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:15,393
She went over on
1632
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:15,393
August 31st with a friend
1633
00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:17,894
to attend an activities fair
1634
00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:17,894
at Notre Dame,
1635
00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:21,148
and that
1636
00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:21,148
evening they went back
1637
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:25,444
to this
1638
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:25,444
football player's room.
1639
00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:31,450
It was four of them in there.
1640
00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910
The football
1641
00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910
player and his friend
1642
00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910
and Lizzy and her friend.
1643
00:48:33,952 --> 00:48:36,205
And then...
1644
00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:38,374
I guess, rather suddenly,
1645
00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:42,169
the... The, uh...
1646
00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:42,169
The other two left the room
1647
00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:44,714
and left Lizzy alone
1648
00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:44,714
with this football player.
1649
00:48:44,756 --> 00:48:48,092
And then he
1650
00:48:44,756 --> 00:48:48,092
basically jumps her.
1651
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:51,345
He pulls her on top of him
1652
00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:56,267
and removes her shirt,
1653
00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:56,267
and bra,
1654
00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:59,437
and then also begins
1655
00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:59,437
to try to take off her pants.
1656
00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:05,317
And the next
1657
00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:05,317
day Lizzy reports.
1658
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,152
It never crossed our mind
1659
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,152
that they wouldn't do right.
1660
00:49:09,946 --> 00:49:11,824
The accused,
1661
00:49:09,946 --> 00:49:11,824
they couldn't find him.
1662
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:13,576
They had
1663
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:13,576
difficulty locating him.
1664
00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,995
Everyone knows where
1665
00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,995
this individual is.
1666
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:19,791
Certainly
1667
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:19,791
the athletic department knows.
1668
00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210
He played two
1669
00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210
home football games
1670
00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210
before he was interviewed.
1671
00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:27,381
Notre Dame Stadium
1672
00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:27,381
holds 80,000 people,
1673
00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803
so, that's times two,
1674
00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803
160,000 people
1675
00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803
knew where this guy was
1676
00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098
before the Notre
1677
00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098
Dame Security Police
1678
00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098
could find him.
1679
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:40,478
There was a directive
1680
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:40,478
that the campus police
1681
00:49:41,729 --> 00:49:44,690
cannot contact an athlete
1682
00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:47,109
at any athletic facility,
1683
00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:53,157
and we cannot contact
1684
00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:53,157
any athletic employee
1685
00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455
to assist us in
1686
00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455
contacting the athlete
1687
00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455
that we would be looking for.
1688
00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,081
INTERVIEWER: So, what was
1689
00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,081
the point of that?
1690
00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:07,755
I guess just to...
1691
00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:07,755
(INHALES DEEPLY)
1692
00:50:07,797 --> 00:50:10,549
...keep us away
1693
00:50:07,797 --> 00:50:10,549
from student athletes.
1694
00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,595
So, Lizzy ends this exchange
1695
00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,595
of intimidating texts
1696
00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:16,931
from the football
1697
00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:16,931
player's friend,
1698
00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:19,057
and he comes at
1699
00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:19,057
her with a text,
1700
00:50:20,476 --> 00:50:24,563
(TOM READING)
1701
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,859
And then Lizzy
1702
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,859
takes that message
1703
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,070
and immediately forwards it
1704
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,070
to the detective in charge.
1705
00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:34,114
And later
1706
00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:34,114
the county prosecutor said
1707
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,992
that they would not
1708
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,992
be filing any charges
1709
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371
on that particular complaint
1710
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371
and saying that
1711
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371
it wasn't a threat
1712
00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,791
because
1713
00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,791
the individual who sent it
1714
00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212
believed he was
1715
00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212
trying to prevent someone
1716
00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212
from filing a false report.
1717
00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:55,761
She was becoming very anxious
1718
00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:55,761
about this whole situation.
1719
00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808
One of her friends
1720
00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808
is quoted as saying
1721
00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808
that she said, you know,
1722
00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:03,059
"He's gonna get away with it."
1723
00:51:03,101 --> 00:51:05,270
He denied everything,
1724
00:51:05,312 --> 00:51:07,982
and made comments like,
1725
00:51:05,312 --> 00:51:07,982
"She was the aggressor."
1726
00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:13,487
Friday evening,
1727
00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:13,487
I finally looked at my phone,
1728
00:51:13,529 --> 00:51:17,157
and I saw a text from
1729
00:51:13,529 --> 00:51:17,157
my wife's best friend saying,
1730
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,745
"You need to call right away."
1731
00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:25,791
And I remember
1732
00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:25,791
the words in it was,
1733
00:51:25,833 --> 00:51:27,960
"It's bad. It's bad.
1734
00:51:29,837 --> 00:51:31,213
"Lizzy took her life today.
1735
00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:36,802
"She's gone."
1736
00:51:49,774 --> 00:51:51,943
You know, it's brutal.
1737
00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571
It's just
1738
00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571
really profoundly sad
1739
00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571
in those moments
1740
00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:59,033
when you just think,
1741
00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:59,033
she's not here with us.
1742
00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:08,751
ANNIE: Is it just students?
1743
00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:08,751
Is it everybody?
1744
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758
ANDREA: Um, students
1745
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758
and university,
1746
00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758
community members.
1747
00:52:16,884 --> 00:52:18,510
So, I'm in Oregon.
1748
00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:21,680
Drea ends up moving to Oregon
1749
00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:21,680
and taking the semester off.
1750
00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897
"Every place I've separated
1751
00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897
with a semicolon
1752
00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897
is a different..."
1753
00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:31,398
She and I started talking.
1754
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,942
We're like, okay,
1755
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,942
"We're gonna keep doing this.
1756
00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360
"Don't know how
1757
00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360
we're gonna fund it,
1758
00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360
but we're gonna do something."
1759
00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:37,613
We called everybody.
1760
00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:40,407
Most people
1761
00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:40,407
totally laughed it off.
1762
00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:44,202
Just looking at rape reporting
1763
00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:44,202
in general, it's really low...
1764
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,038
But one of
1765
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,038
the people who we had
1766
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,665
reached out to
1767
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,665
about the UNC case
1768
00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:48,833
was at the New York Times.
1769
00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:51,043
And he's like,
1770
00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:51,043
"Oh, that's interesting."
1771
00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753
It ended up
1772
00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753
becoming a front page
1773
00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753
New York Times story.
1774
00:52:55,756 --> 00:53:00,803
That's when we got a flood of
1775
00:52:55,756 --> 00:53:00,803
emails, Facebook, tweets.
1776
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431
Like, somebody tweeted at me,
1777
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431
"Me, too.
1778
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431
It happened to me, too."
1779
00:53:04,473 --> 00:53:07,183
This is Annie.
1780
00:53:04,473 --> 00:53:07,183
And Andrea's here with me.
1781
00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:09,185
Do you see
1782
00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:09,185
a button in the middle
1783
00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:10,896
of your screen?
1784
00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:10,896
It says "start video."
1785
00:53:12,023 --> 00:53:13,732
Yay!
1786
00:53:12,023 --> 00:53:13,732
Cool. Look at that.
1787
00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028
It was my freshman year.
1788
00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028
I'd been at school
1789
00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028
for a couple of weeks.
1790
00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:18,988
I'd made friends
1791
00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:18,988
in some frat houses.
1792
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:20,990
ANNIE:
1793
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:20,990
People reached out through
1794
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:20,990
all these different mediums.
1795
00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:23,408
A lot of Facebook.
1796
00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:23,408
A lot of emails.
1797
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,661
"I froze and
1798
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,661
couldn't fight back."
1799
00:53:25,703 --> 00:53:27,245
"I don't know if
1800
00:53:25,703 --> 00:53:27,245
it's appropriate to have
1801
00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:28,956
"told this story to
1802
00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:28,956
you without asking,
1803
00:53:28,998 --> 00:53:31,792
"and I'm sorry if it's been
1804
00:53:28,998 --> 00:53:31,792
harmful to you in any way,
1805
00:53:31,834 --> 00:53:34,336
"but it needs to stop."
1806
00:53:36,088 --> 00:53:37,548
Wow.
1807
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509
I remember I was
1808
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509
in one meeting
1809
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509
after some story broke,
1810
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,304
and I had 50 calls in an hour.
1811
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,304
I had 50 calls.
1812
00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,099
WOMAN 5: I've never heard of
1813
00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,099
a case that has gone
1814
00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:49,685
in, like,
1815
00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:49,685
the survivor's favor.
1816
00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:50,895
I mean, he admitted it.
1817
00:53:50,936 --> 00:53:51,937
He admitted to sexual assault
1818
00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:53,022
and got
1819
00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:53,022
an eight-week suspension.
1820
00:53:53,064 --> 00:53:54,481
Mmm-hmm.
1821
00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:57,484
The Dean of Students
1822
00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:57,484
accused me of being drunk
1823
00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,945
and told me that I had,
1824
00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,945
like, a serious problem.
1825
00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,573
ANNIE:
1826
00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,573
So, many of the survivors
1827
00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,573
coming forward were saying,
1828
00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993
"My rape was bad,
1829
00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993
but the way I was
1830
00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993
treated was worse."
1831
00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:11,665
I was raped in the Honors Dorm
1832
00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:11,665
above the Department's Office.
1833
00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211
And the Department Office
1834
00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211
took my scholarship.
1835
00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211
It just doesn't...
1836
00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,713
ANNIE:
1837
00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,713
I was up working at 4:00,
1838
00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,713
and then I'd go to work,
1839
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298
and then I come back
1840
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298
and sometimes
1841
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298
there'd be survivors
1842
00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:22,384
in my apartment
1843
00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:22,384
that needed to talk.
1844
00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762
WOMAN 6: (LAUGHS) You
1845
00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762
probably hear stories
1846
00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762
like this all the time.
1847
00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:28,515
I know, but it
1848
00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:28,515
doesn't make it any better.
1849
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477
Now I'm realizing
1850
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477
how much better I feel
1851
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477
from talking about it.
1852
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,479
You're not alone.
1853
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,479
You're not alone.
1854
00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:36,523
And no matter how
1855
00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:36,523
many awful things...
1856
00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:37,942
ANNIE: I basically had
1857
00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:37,942
to make a choice if I
1858
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:40,194
wanted to continue
1859
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:40,194
to support survivors
1860
00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531
or have my actual
1861
00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531
administrative
1862
00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531
job at a university.
1863
00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952
I figured I could do
1864
00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952
more good this way,
1865
00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952
so I resigned.
1866
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,663
On our to-do list,
1867
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,663
we have Vanderbilt.
1868
00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:53,665
Yep.
1869
00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:54,959
Um...
1870
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,668
U-Conn.
1871
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:58,921
Formalizing a national network
1872
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:58,921
is on our to-do list.
1873
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:58,921
(GIGGLES)
1874
00:54:58,963 --> 00:55:00,338
That's pending.
1875
00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:01,381
I found my paychecks.
1876
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224
ANNIE: What Drea and
1877
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224
I are looking to see
1878
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224
is how do we show that UNC,
1879
00:55:10,266 --> 00:55:11,976
it's not in isolation.
1880
00:55:13,602 --> 00:55:15,311
We started seeing,
1881
00:55:13,602 --> 00:55:15,311
you know, what was happening
1882
00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:17,022
at campuses
1883
00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:17,022
across the country.
1884
00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156
We look at all
1885
00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156
the cases we've heard,
1886
00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156
then we make this map,
1887
00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,449
and every time another school
1888
00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,449
called or whatever,
1889
00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,243
we put a dot on the map.
1890
00:55:29,285 --> 00:55:30,828
And I remember
1891
00:55:29,285 --> 00:55:30,828
talking to Drea, and I'm like,
1892
00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:33,164
"Why has no one
1893
00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:33,164
connected the dots before?"
1894
00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:35,291
We have a case
1895
00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:35,291
at Amherst, Yale,
1896
00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,960
Penn State,
1897
00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,960
Berkeley, Oxy, UNC,
1898
00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378
and nobody said,
1899
00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378
"I think we should
1900
00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378
connect these dots
1901
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,672
"'cause there
1902
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,672
might be something
1903
00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:44,883
"going on here,
1904
00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:44,883
bigger than one problem."
1905
00:55:44,925 --> 00:55:47,970
ANDREA:
1906
00:55:44,925 --> 00:55:47,970
And you see how many people
1907
00:55:44,925 --> 00:55:47,970
are being impacted by them,
1908
00:55:48,012 --> 00:55:51,098
and every one of those dots
1909
00:55:48,012 --> 00:55:51,098
being more than one story.
1910
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,348
You start to see
1911
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,348
it as an epidemic.
1912
00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:56,603
What if we could
1913
00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:56,603
build a network?
1914
00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:59,439
What if we could
1915
00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:59,439
connect our stories?
1916
00:55:59,481 --> 00:56:01,900
We could actually
1917
00:55:59,481 --> 00:56:01,900
make campus rape
1918
00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:04,195
a problem that
1919
00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:04,195
people cared about.
1920
00:56:05,321 --> 00:56:06,322
(INCOMING SKYPE RING)
1921
00:56:06,947 --> 00:56:08,364
(HUMMING SKYPE RING)
1922
00:56:10,242 --> 00:56:11,367
Hi, Sofie!
1923
00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:13,329
Hello.
1924
00:56:14,663 --> 00:56:16,372
ANNIE: Hi! (GIGGLES)
1925
00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:17,415
Do you want to see Drea?
1926
00:56:19,751 --> 00:56:21,503
Can you see?
1927
00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:23,922
Drea!
1928
00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133
ANNIE: Sofie was one of
1929
00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133
the first activists
1930
00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133
who reached out,
1931
00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:27,718
and she was from Berkeley.
1932
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:30,428
There's been
1933
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:30,428
an increase in the number
1934
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:33,182
of sexual assaults
1935
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:33,182
that have happened.
1936
00:56:33,224 --> 00:56:35,809
ANNIE:
1937
00:56:33,224 --> 00:56:35,809
She's like, "This is exactly
1938
00:56:33,224 --> 00:56:35,809
what's happening at Berkeley.
1939
00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:37,978
"I know so many other people
1940
00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:37,978
that are dealing with this.
1941
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:39,521
"How can we do what you did?"
1942
00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:41,397
And so, we started
1943
00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:41,397
working together.
1944
00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:44,902
(YELLS) Annie!
1945
00:56:44,943 --> 00:56:45,986
Hi! (LAUGHING)
1946
00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:52,408
How are you?
1947
00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:52,408
Hi!
1948
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:53,577
ANNIE: Hi, how was your trip?
1949
00:56:53,618 --> 00:56:55,037
Are you scared of
1950
00:56:53,618 --> 00:56:55,037
retaliation at all?
1951
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,581
Yeah.
1952
00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919
So far, the students who know
1953
00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919
have been really,
1954
00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919
really supportive.
1955
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,547
I think that once maybe
1956
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,547
the fraternities find out,
1957
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:09,218
then that could be bad.
1958
00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597
It's called Collegiate ACB,
1959
00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597
and there are all
1960
00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597
of these fraternities
1961
00:57:13,638 --> 00:57:16,683
that post on it about, like,
1962
00:57:13,638 --> 00:57:16,683
"Who's the most attractive?
1963
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728
"Which house is
1964
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728
the best house?"
1965
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728
Or people that say,
1966
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440
"I was raped at
1967
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440
Sigma Chi last weekend."
1968
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440
Or "I was raped at Tke once."
1969
00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:26,777
ANNIE: Why is your name in it?
1970
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:28,486
SOFIE KARASEK: Oh, my God.
1971
00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:28,486
I don't know.
1972
00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:31,823
I did not think I was gonna be
1973
00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:31,823
on this stupid site.
1974
00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:33,491
Well, also how they
1975
00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:33,491
spelled your name, though.
1976
00:57:33,533 --> 00:57:34,952
I know. "Sofiem Karasekem"?
1977
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:36,536
(ALL LAUGHING)
1978
00:57:36,578 --> 00:57:38,956
Whatever that means.
1979
00:57:36,578 --> 00:57:38,956
They wrote my name...
1980
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458
They wrote it in Latin.
1981
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458
I don't understand.
1982
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458
Probably search it?
1983
00:57:47,547 --> 00:57:48,465
SOFIE: Interesting.
1984
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,697
CAITLIN FLANAGAN: The American
1985
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,697
fraternity industry spans
1986
00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:14,699
thousands of
1987
00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:14,699
American colleges,
1988
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203
from the most elite,
1989
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203
private ivy
1990
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203
league institutions
1991
00:58:18,245 --> 00:58:19,663
to small regional colleges.
1992
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,710
We all know about
1993
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,710
inflicted trauma from hazing.
1994
00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:28,546
But it's a matter
1995
00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:28,546
of public record
1996
00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,549
that the second
1997
00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,549
most common type
1998
00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:33,260
of insurance claim against
1999
00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:33,260
the fraternity industry
2000
00:58:33,302 --> 00:58:35,637
is for sexual assault.
2001
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,514
I don't want to
2002
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,514
single out fraternities
2003
00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,391
because it's actually
2004
00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,391
a minority of fraternities,
2005
00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,019
but what you inevitably get
2006
00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,019
are certain fraternities
2007
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,563
where the sexual assault
2008
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,563
is really rampant.
2009
00:58:45,605 --> 00:58:47,899
MAN 5: Within just, say,
2010
00:58:45,605 --> 00:58:47,899
the last five to 10 years,
2011
00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,277
Sigma Alpha Epsilon's
2012
00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,277
had a number of problems.
2013
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114
SAE is known at
2014
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114
a lot of places
2015
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114
as "Sexual Assault Expected."
2016
00:58:54,156 --> 00:58:56,074
Sexual Assault Expected.
2017
00:58:56,116 --> 00:58:57,951
Sexual Assault Expected.
2018
00:58:57,993 --> 00:58:59,661
SAE. Sexual Assault Expected.
2019
00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,246
Is there any,
2020
00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,246
like, parties or places
2021
00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,622
that you've been
2022
00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,622
warned not to go?
2023
00:59:02,664 --> 00:59:04,082
Yes, SAE.
2024
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:05,750
ALL: Sexual Assault Expected.
2025
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:05,750
(LAUGHS)
2026
00:59:07,419 --> 00:59:10,422
WOMAN 6: Sigma Nu.
2027
00:59:07,419 --> 00:59:10,422
SAE. Dke, at the very top.
2028
00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549
Those are, like, the main ones
2029
00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549
where as a freshman
2030
00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549
you're told, like,
2031
00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:13,800
"Don't go there."
2032
00:59:13,842 --> 00:59:15,511
There's one
2033
00:59:13,842 --> 00:59:15,511
fraternity on campus
2034
00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,637
that is called
2035
00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,637
"The Date Rape Frat."
2036
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,723
Dke is known as
2037
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,723
the Roofie Frat.
2038
00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:21,808
GIRL:
2039
00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:21,808
There is one that was called
2040
00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:21,808
the Rape Dungeon.
2041
00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232
Once you get a group
2042
00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232
of people like this
2043
00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232
in that kind of
2044
00:59:28,273 --> 00:59:31,109
synergistic kind
2045
00:59:28,273 --> 00:59:31,109
of culture forming,
2046
00:59:31,151 --> 00:59:34,321
it intensifies this problem.
2047
00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242
Pledges at
2048
00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242
a fraternity at Yale
2049
00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242
surrounded the dorm
2050
00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037
where many of the freshman
2051
00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037
girls lived,
2052
00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037
at night, shouting...
2053
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:44,956
(MALE STUDENTS CHANTING)
2054
00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,459
MALE STUDENTS:
2055
00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,459
"No" means "yes!"
2056
00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,459
"Yes" means "anal!"
2057
00:59:47,501 --> 00:59:48,544
(CHANTING CONTINUES)
2058
00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:51,963
ALL: "No" means "yes!"
2059
00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:51,963
"Yes" means "anal!"
2060
00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,674
I ended up pledging SAE,
2061
00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,674
Sigma Alpha Epsilon.
2062
00:59:54,716 --> 00:59:58,303
It's one of the largest
2063
00:59:54,716 --> 00:59:58,303
national fraternities,
2064
00:59:58,345 --> 01:00:02,349
somewhat notorious
2065
00:59:58,345 --> 01:00:02,349
for its bad reputation.
2066
01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060
Every Wednesday
2067
01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060
night we would have
2068
01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060
what we would call meetings
2069
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231
where all the brothers,
2070
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231
usually about 70 if
2071
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231
all were in attendance,
2072
01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277
would gather in the basement
2073
01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277
and begin a highly
2074
01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277
structured ritual
2075
01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:16,696
exchanging stories
2076
01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:16,696
of sexual conquest.
2077
01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:19,366
If a brother had had
2078
01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:19,366
anal sex with a woman,
2079
01:00:19,408 --> 01:00:20,951
that would be mentioned,
2080
01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:23,454
and that would be a kind of
2081
01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:23,454
a pat-on-the-back moment.
2082
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081
And I think that
2083
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081
that's something
2084
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081
that the women at Dartmouth
2085
01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167
who hooked up with
2086
01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167
the fraternity brothers
2087
01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167
didn't really know.
2088
01:00:29,209 --> 01:00:33,088
That guy who tried
2089
01:00:29,209 --> 01:00:33,088
to sexually assault me at ATO,
2090
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,381
he was a pledge
2091
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,381
at the time, right?
2092
01:00:34,423 --> 01:00:37,342
And so, all the pledges
2093
01:00:34,423 --> 01:00:37,342
had to, like,
2094
01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:41,805
photograph girls without
2095
01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:41,805
anything on their tops, right?
2096
01:00:41,846 --> 01:00:42,847
WOMAN 7: What?
2097
01:00:42,889 --> 01:00:44,182
Had to photograph
2098
01:00:42,889 --> 01:00:44,182
shirtless girls.
2099
01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976
I hate that.
2100
01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976
And so,
2101
01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976
apparently in the basement
2102
01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:50,730
there were pictures of girls
2103
01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:50,730
and just, like, their tits.
2104
01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985
And apparently
2105
01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985
this kid who was,
2106
01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985
like, so pushy with me,
2107
01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,487
he had, like,
2108
01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,487
the most pictures of girls.
2109
01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:58,447
So, when he comes at me,
2110
01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116
his behavior of
2111
01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116
being sexually aggressive
2112
01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116
gets rewarded by his brothers.
2113
01:01:07,998 --> 01:01:10,834
DOUG FIERBERG:
2114
01:01:07,998 --> 01:01:10,834
Fraternities are essentially
2115
01:01:07,998 --> 01:01:10,834
unregulated bars.
2116
01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920
And the individuals
2117
01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920
that are responsible
2118
01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920
for managing that alcohol
2119
01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:16,673
are themselves legally
2120
01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:16,673
incapable of consuming it.
2121
01:01:18,133 --> 01:01:19,759
Most sororities
2122
01:01:18,133 --> 01:01:19,759
don't throw parties,
2123
01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:21,553
because you can't
2124
01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:21,553
have alcohol at all
2125
01:01:21,595 --> 01:01:24,139
on the premises,
2126
01:01:21,595 --> 01:01:24,139
even if you're over 21.
2127
01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767
So, if sorority
2128
01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767
women want to drink
2129
01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767
or go to a party even, at all,
2130
01:01:27,809 --> 01:01:29,561
they have to do
2131
01:01:27,809 --> 01:01:29,561
it at a fraternity
2132
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731
where the fraternity
2133
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731
brothers control
2134
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731
the dispersion of alcohol.
2135
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:36,485
Usually, the drinks
2136
01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:36,485
had Everclear in them.
2137
01:01:36,527 --> 01:01:37,986
INTERVIEWER: What's Everclear?
2138
01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,866
It's a very strong
2139
01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,866
form of alcohol, and I...
2140
01:01:42,907 --> 01:01:44,368
The reason why they
2141
01:01:42,907 --> 01:01:44,368
put it in there is
2142
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:46,411
because it would
2143
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:46,411
get you drunk quickly.
2144
01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:47,912
The idea would
2145
01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:47,912
be to get everyone
2146
01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,665
so incredibly intoxicated,
2147
01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,665
you know,
2148
01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,749
blackout drunk,
2149
01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,749
that would increase the
2150
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,210
chances that people
2151
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,210
would be getting laid.
2152
01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,382
There was certainly something
2153
01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,382
predatory about it.
2154
01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,883
The fraternity
2155
01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,883
brothers took great pride
2156
01:01:59,924 --> 01:02:02,093
in having
2157
01:01:59,924 --> 01:02:02,093
a predator/prey relationship
2158
01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,888
with the women that would come
2159
01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,888
to these parties.
2160
01:02:06,306 --> 01:02:07,765
So, I was at
2161
01:02:06,306 --> 01:02:07,765
a fraternity party.
2162
01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:09,393
I went to a fraternity.
2163
01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,770
I went to
2164
01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,770
a fraternity party at MIT.
2165
01:02:12,812 --> 01:02:16,774
I'd never really, I guess,
2166
01:02:12,812 --> 01:02:16,774
been in a situation like that.
2167
01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,197
He came up to me and
2168
01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,197
we started talking.
2169
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:23,574
He was just this guy
2170
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:23,574
I thought was cute,
2171
01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:25,825
and then we were
2172
01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:25,825
just dancing at Fiji.
2173
01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413
This big frat
2174
01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413
brother came up to me
2175
01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413
and he put his arm around me,
2176
01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790
and he took me
2177
01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790
away from my friends,
2178
01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790
but he was really nice.
2179
01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:37,754
A friend, at the time, um,
2180
01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:37,754
really fed me a lot of drinks.
2181
01:02:37,795 --> 01:02:40,757
He said,
2182
01:02:37,795 --> 01:02:40,757
"Why don't we go outside?"
2183
01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:42,175
He asked if I
2184
01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:42,175
wanted to go upstairs.
2185
01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:43,343
We went upstairs.
2186
01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,803
And he invited me
2187
01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,803
to go into a room.
2188
01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,055
He took me
2189
01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,055
downstairs to their basement.
2190
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,352
He pinned me against the wall,
2191
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,352
and took off my clothes,
2192
01:02:52,394 --> 01:02:54,938
and assaulted me.
2193
01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:58,275
That's when they
2194
01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:58,275
both assaulted me.
2195
01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277
I was assaulted by
2196
01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277
at least two members
2197
01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277
of their fraternity.
2198
01:03:04,531 --> 01:03:06,700
It's extremely difficult,
2199
01:03:06,742 --> 01:03:09,160
if not impossible,
2200
01:03:06,742 --> 01:03:09,160
to get accurate information
2201
01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122
about whether or
2202
01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122
not there have been
2203
01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122
sexual assaults
2204
01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:14,916
in a particular
2205
01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:14,916
fraternity house.
2206
01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:16,793
What you find in many
2207
01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:16,793
circumstances is that
2208
01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:19,087
universities have
2209
01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:19,087
created contractual
2210
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:21,131
relationships
2211
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:21,131
with fraternities
2212
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,800
that involve them
2213
01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,800
promoting the fraternities,
2214
01:03:23,841 --> 01:03:26,136
but not then also disclosing
2215
01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:28,846
the risks that they've had
2216
01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:28,846
with those fraternities.
2217
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,015
On the Johns Hopkins
2218
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,015
University campus today,
2219
01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561
following
2220
01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561
allegations of a gang rape
2221
01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561
at an off campus fraternity.
2222
01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:35,853
Students say the university
2223
01:03:35,895 --> 01:03:38,189
failed to tell students
2224
01:03:35,895 --> 01:03:38,189
about the investigation.
2225
01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,651
Problem after
2226
01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,651
problem after problem
2227
01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,321
for the Sigma Alpha
2228
01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,321
Epsilon fraternity at UNM.
2229
01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:47,407
And that was before
2230
01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:47,407
a new claim of rape.
2231
01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201
REPORTER 7: Digging for
2232
01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201
answers after the same
2233
01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201
Yale frat house
2234
01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:51,828
has had a whole
2235
01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:51,828
bunch of problems.
2236
01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:54,414
I'm telling you,
2237
01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:54,414
almost every time
2238
01:03:54,456 --> 01:03:56,333
there's a rape in
2239
01:03:54,456 --> 01:03:56,333
a fraternity chapter,
2240
01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,418
there's someone
2241
01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,418
at the university,
2242
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796
certainly the person
2243
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796
who's in the office of
2244
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796
Greek residence life,
2245
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:02,255
who's paid for
2246
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:02,255
by the university,
2247
01:04:02,297 --> 01:04:04,215
he or she knew
2248
01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,135
that that chapter was likely
2249
01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,135
to have a rape sometime.
2250
01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:09,471
But they won't
2251
01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:09,471
tell the young women.
2252
01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890
Or if they do,
2253
01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890
there's hell to pay
2254
01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890
for these college presidents.
2255
01:04:12,932 --> 01:04:14,476
It's happened at Wesleyan.
2256
01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145
There was
2257
01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145
a problem fraternity,
2258
01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145
Beta Theta Pi.
2259
01:04:17,187 --> 01:04:19,105
The university sent
2260
01:04:17,187 --> 01:04:19,105
a letter in the spring
2261
01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:20,857
to all students
2262
01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:20,857
and all parents.
2263
01:04:29,032 --> 01:04:31,159
The fraternity went ballistic.
2264
01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911
The parents of
2265
01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911
the fraternity brothers
2266
01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911
went ballistic,
2267
01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:35,831
and the new class of
2268
01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:35,831
freshman women came in,
2269
01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:37,081
and they didn't
2270
01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:37,081
send the warning to
2271
01:04:37,123 --> 01:04:38,416
the new class of
2272
01:04:37,123 --> 01:04:38,416
freshman women.
2273
01:04:38,458 --> 01:04:39,710
It was Halloween weekend
2274
01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003
before a girl was
2275
01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003
violently raped upstairs.
2276
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,338
Frat house at
2277
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,338
Wesleyan University
2278
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:45,549
is facing
2279
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:45,549
a lawsuit by a student
2280
01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,133
who claims she was raped.
2281
01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,845
And this isn't the first time
2282
01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,845
that frat has come under fire.
2283
01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:54,015
CAITLIN: After that rape,
2284
01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:54,015
a young woman shows up
2285
01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:56,560
at an emergency room
2286
01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:56,560
in Middletown, Connecticut.
2287
01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:58,436
"I was assaulted
2288
01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:58,436
at Beta Theta Pi."
2289
01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:03,941
It's to me
2290
01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:03,941
outrageous the extent
2291
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:05,902
that our colleges
2292
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:05,902
and universities
2293
01:05:05,943 --> 01:05:09,030
are complicit in
2294
01:05:05,943 --> 01:05:09,030
the sexual assault
2295
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,825
of young women at
2296
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,825
these fraternity houses.
2297
01:05:11,867 --> 01:05:13,034
INTERVIEWER:
2298
01:05:11,867 --> 01:05:13,034
So, why don't the schools
2299
01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:15,203
just disassociate themselves
2300
01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:15,203
from the fraternities
2301
01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,955
and kick them off campus?
2302
01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:20,041
Right. Well,
2303
01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:20,041
the colleges and universities
2304
01:05:20,083 --> 01:05:22,043
have much more to gain
2305
01:05:20,083 --> 01:05:22,043
from the fraternities
2306
01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:23,503
than the fraternities
2307
01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:23,503
have to gain
2308
01:05:23,545 --> 01:05:24,796
from the colleges
2309
01:05:23,545 --> 01:05:24,796
and universities.
2310
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:31,094
One out of every
2311
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:31,094
eight college students
2312
01:05:31,135 --> 01:05:33,764
living on campus
2313
01:05:31,135 --> 01:05:33,764
lives in Greek housing.
2314
01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:35,766
That's a tremendous
2315
01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:35,766
amount of housing stock
2316
01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810
the colleges
2317
01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810
don't have to pay for,
2318
01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810
don't have to supervise.
2319
01:05:38,852 --> 01:05:40,353
You also have to remember
2320
01:05:40,395 --> 01:05:43,690
you tie alumni to your campus
2321
01:05:40,395 --> 01:05:43,690
in a very powerful way
2322
01:05:43,732 --> 01:05:45,108
when you have
2323
01:05:43,732 --> 01:05:45,108
a fraternity system.
2324
01:05:45,149 --> 01:05:46,192
(BOTH YELLING IN EXCITEMENT)
2325
01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947
Alumni giving
2326
01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947
is a massive part
2327
01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947
of your annual giving,
2328
01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:53,408
and a large part of that
2329
01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:53,408
is fraternity membership.
2330
01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:04,961
CAITLIN: It's a deeply
2331
01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:04,961
powerful industry.
2332
01:06:05,002 --> 01:06:07,004
You start tracing
2333
01:06:05,002 --> 01:06:07,004
back and you find out
2334
01:06:07,046 --> 01:06:09,841
they're pouring money
2335
01:06:07,046 --> 01:06:09,841
into political campaigns,
2336
01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:12,594
and they're
2337
01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:12,594
hugely overrepresented.
2338
01:06:12,636 --> 01:06:14,137
There's no
2339
01:06:12,636 --> 01:06:14,137
college or university,
2340
01:06:14,178 --> 01:06:16,264
or type of
2341
01:06:14,178 --> 01:06:16,264
college or university
2342
01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:18,767
that's more
2343
01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:18,767
represented within Congress
2344
01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:22,479
than the fraternity
2345
01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:22,479
system itself is.
2346
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,773
So, people are very
2347
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,773
loathed to get involved
2348
01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,983
and very loathed to come up
2349
01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,983
against the fraternity system.
2350
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,405
ANNIE: Checklist?
2351
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,405
Phone charger?
2352
01:06:32,447 --> 01:06:33,698
ANDREA: Mmm-hmm.
2353
01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:34,783
ANNIE: Laptop?
2354
01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:34,783
ANDREA: Mmm-hmm.
2355
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,417
ANNIE: It's not
2356
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,417
a coincidence that you can
2357
01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,919
fly to Boston and
2358
01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,919
fly to California
2359
01:06:45,961 --> 01:06:47,587
and hear the same stories.
2360
01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,591
ANDREA: We started
2361
01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,591
visiting other campuses.
2362
01:06:51,633 --> 01:06:53,259
We felt that if
2363
01:06:51,633 --> 01:06:53,259
we created a model
2364
01:06:53,301 --> 01:06:54,678
for how to file
2365
01:06:53,301 --> 01:06:54,678
a Title IX Complaint,
2366
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:56,220
others would do it.
2367
01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196
These are our two fraternities
2368
01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196
where a student was
2369
01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196
sexually assaulted.
2370
01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866
ANDREA: And it was going there
2371
01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866
and being walked
2372
01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866
to the fraternities
2373
01:07:15,907 --> 01:07:18,785
and being walked to where
2374
01:07:15,907 --> 01:07:18,785
their assaults had happened.
2375
01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245
You know,
2376
01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245
details that were critical
2377
01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245
for every single case.
2378
01:07:22,664 --> 01:07:24,040
Weird, right?
2379
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,836
WOMAN 8: So, for the email
2380
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,836
I'm just gonna...
2381
01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130
ANNIE: So we move forward
2382
01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130
with this model saying,
2383
01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130
"Here's a complaint.
2384
01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:32,590
"Here's how this
2385
01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:32,590
process works."
2386
01:07:33,884 --> 01:07:35,802
ANDREA: My 21st birthday,
2387
01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930
I was helping
2388
01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930
students at Swarthmore
2389
01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930
file a Title IX Complaint.
2390
01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192
ANNIE: So, I think,
2391
01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192
I went to Columbia twice
2392
01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192
before they filed.
2393
01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:52,360
Just sat down with
2394
01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:52,360
a group of students
2395
01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,988
and talked them through
2396
01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,988
how to file a complaint.
2397
01:07:55,030 --> 01:07:58,408
If people are
2398
01:07:55,030 --> 01:07:58,408
going to talk publicly,
2399
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036
then it needs
2400
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036
to be about their
2401
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036
treatment here at Columbia.
2402
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:02,787
Focus on Columbia.
2403
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:02,787
WOMAN 9: Yeah.
2404
01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457
ANNIE: We don't have lawyers.
2405
01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457
You have
2406
01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457
18-19-year-old students
2407
01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:10,294
who are standing up
2408
01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:10,294
to their institutions.
2409
01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:13,297
We are at Amherst,
2410
01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:13,297
and we found a place to stay.
2411
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:14,465
(LAUGHS)
2412
01:08:14,507 --> 01:08:16,092
Hi, Drea.
2413
01:08:16,927 --> 01:08:18,720
Where we sleeping tonight?
2414
01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:21,097
Out on the least
2415
01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:21,097
terrifying parking lot.
2416
01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:22,682
(ANNIE LAUGHS)
2417
01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102
And we are
2418
01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102
changing and doing stuff
2419
01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102
in a Wendy's bathroom. Yay.
2420
01:08:38,489 --> 01:08:40,241
I found politicizing
2421
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746
my own experience
2422
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746
to be actually
2423
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746
the most helpful step.
2424
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041
SOFIE: It's really
2425
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041
exciting to actually get to
2426
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041
meet the other activists.
2427
01:08:48,083 --> 01:08:51,836
I had felt so cared for,
2428
01:08:48,083 --> 01:08:51,836
until I actually needed Yale,
2429
01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,839
at which point I became this,
2430
01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,839
like, administrative matter.
2431
01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509
The administration
2432
01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509
kept telling us to,
2433
01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509
"Take our foot off the pedal."
2434
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:12,398
Hi.
2435
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:12,398
ANNIE: Hi.
2436
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,025
Nice to meet you. I'm Annie.
2437
01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:15,902
I'm Rachel. Nice to meet you.
2438
01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:15,902
Nice to meet you.
2439
01:09:15,944 --> 01:09:18,571
I just decided to
2440
01:09:15,944 --> 01:09:18,571
take some time off, kind of.
2441
01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,699
I moved here with my sister,
2442
01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,699
and I've been a nanny
2443
01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:23,326
and it's the most
2444
01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:23,326
amazing thing, so...
2445
01:09:23,367 --> 01:09:24,911
ANNIE: That's so cool. Yeah.
2446
01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750
And, seeing the two
2447
01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750
little girls
2448
01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750
that I nanny for, I like...
2449
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420
One of the reasons
2450
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420
I've wanted to do this
2451
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420
is, like, I never want...
2452
01:09:38,466 --> 01:09:41,886
Them to ever have to deal with
2453
01:09:38,466 --> 01:09:41,886
something like this.
2454
01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:46,349
So, it's really late,
2455
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:51,104
and, um, we have
2456
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:51,104
a survivor who's cutting,
2457
01:09:51,146 --> 01:09:53,648
and she doesn't
2458
01:09:51,146 --> 01:09:53,648
know if she can stop.
2459
01:09:54,899 --> 01:09:56,359
(WOMAN ON PHONE SOBBING)
2460
01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:58,987
ANDREA: The worst
2461
01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:58,987
part for me has been
2462
01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823
having to
2463
01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823
relive the experience
2464
01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823
of everybody else.
2465
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993
This vicarious
2466
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993
trauma that I couldn't
2467
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993
process anymore.
2468
01:10:05,035 --> 01:10:06,369
It's just not fair.
2469
01:10:07,411 --> 01:10:08,997
It's really not fair.
2470
01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:14,961
But it's the only way
2471
01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:14,961
I get up in the morning.
2472
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338
I would've given
2473
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338
anything to have had
2474
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338
someone who believed me,
2475
01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:19,090
someone who supported me.
2476
01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:27,557
ANDREA: Hi!
2477
01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:27,557
ABBY: Hi!
2478
01:10:29,142 --> 01:10:30,685
Hi, I'm Andrea.
2479
01:10:29,142 --> 01:10:30,685
I'm Abby.
2480
01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:32,145
Nice to meet you, Abby.
2481
01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:32,145
Nice to meet you.
2482
01:10:32,187 --> 01:10:33,813
Andrea. Nice to meet you.
2483
01:10:32,187 --> 01:10:33,813
Hi. Good to meet you.
2484
01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485
I was raped by
2485
01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485
a basketball player
2486
01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485
at the University of Tulsa.
2487
01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:42,197
And I felt like
2488
01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:42,197
because he was an athlete,
2489
01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:46,159
everyone was
2490
01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:46,159
acting like he's worth
2491
01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:48,870
more than I am
2492
01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:48,870
because he's an athlete.
2493
01:10:48,912 --> 01:10:52,123
And that's what happens
2494
01:10:48,912 --> 01:10:52,123
over and over and over again.
2495
01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209
It's, like, you need
2496
01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209
to re-read your
2497
01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209
mission statement.
2498
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,626
Like, "Are you here
2499
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,626
to play sports?
2500
01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:57,754
"Or are you here to educate
2501
01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:57,754
and protect your students?"
2502
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218
An alleged sexual assault case
2503
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218
involving three
2504
01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218
basketball players.
2505
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,261
Four former
2506
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,261
Vanderbilt University
2507
01:11:05,302 --> 01:11:07,388
football players
2508
01:11:05,302 --> 01:11:07,388
are charged with rape.
2509
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641
REPORTER 8: Derrick
2510
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641
Washington already had
2511
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641
a documented history
2512
01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,894
of violence against
2513
01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,894
women at Missouri.
2514
01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,521
REPORTER 9:
2515
01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,521
It was former Michigan kicker
2516
01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,521
Brendan Gibbons
2517
01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275
involved in
2518
01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275
the alleged sexual assault
2519
01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275
of a woman back in 2009.
2520
01:11:19,316 --> 01:11:21,318
This is the fifth
2521
01:11:19,316 --> 01:11:21,318
student athlete
2522
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,987
to be accused of
2523
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,987
sexual assault on campus.
2524
01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457
DON MCPHERSON: I really do
2525
01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457
believe the vast majority
2526
01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457
of student athletes
2527
01:11:34,498 --> 01:11:36,292
are worthy of our admiration.
2528
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,586
I think they're mostly,
2529
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,586
for the most part,
2530
01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379
a lot of good people out there
2531
01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379
who are trying to
2532
01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379
do the right thing.
2533
01:11:41,297 --> 01:11:43,174
But when you have
2534
01:11:43,216 --> 01:11:47,137
18 to 22-year-old
2535
01:11:43,216 --> 01:11:47,137
kids who are celebrities,
2536
01:11:47,178 --> 01:11:51,307
it creates a toxic environment
2537
01:11:47,178 --> 01:11:51,307
for a lot of bad behavior.
2538
01:11:52,142 --> 01:11:53,851
When they walk across campus,
2539
01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063
it's not like
2540
01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063
any other student
2541
01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063
walking across campus.
2542
01:11:57,105 --> 01:11:59,065
There's a multi-billion-dollar
2543
01:11:57,105 --> 01:11:59,065
industry
2544
01:11:59,107 --> 01:12:01,067
that wraps around
2545
01:11:59,107 --> 01:12:01,067
these young men,
2546
01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903
and if you don't
2547
01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903
think that they're part
2548
01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903
of a culture of entitlement,
2549
01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322
just look at the fanfare
2550
01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322
that's around
2551
01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322
college football.
2552
01:12:15,957 --> 01:12:18,334
(CHEERING)
2553
01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:28,678
ERICA KINSMAN: I grew up
2554
01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:28,678
in Zephyrhills, Florida.
2555
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721
It's a small town,
2556
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721
so everybody
2557
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721
does know everybody.
2558
01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:35,185
I've lived there
2559
01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:35,185
my entire life.
2560
01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146
I did very well
2561
01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146
in high school.
2562
01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146
I graduated with honors.
2563
01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:41,858
I took a lot of AP
2564
01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:41,858
and honors classes.
2565
01:12:43,276 --> 01:12:45,236
When I was younger,
2566
01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:46,737
a family friend
2567
01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:46,737
of ours gave me
2568
01:12:46,779 --> 01:12:49,157
a Florida State
2569
01:12:46,779 --> 01:12:49,157
cheerleading uniform,
2570
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,574
and it came with pom-poms.
2571
01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:55,163
JOHN KINSMAN:
2572
01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:55,163
She was the best child
2573
01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:55,163
any father could have.
2574
01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,581
She was fabulous.
2575
01:12:57,623 --> 01:13:01,211
Never any problems.
2576
01:12:57,623 --> 01:13:01,211
Always had a great smile.
2577
01:13:01,252 --> 01:13:04,380
Just a joy to be around.
2578
01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:07,633
She kept saying she was going
2579
01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:07,633
to FSU, going to FSU,
2580
01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,802
and then when she
2581
01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,802
first got there,
2582
01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,929
I knew she made
2583
01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,929
the right choice.
2584
01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,308
My first
2585
01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,308
semester was really...
2586
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:17,060
It was a lot of
2587
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:17,060
science classes.
2588
01:13:17,101 --> 01:13:19,770
I was in six classes.
2589
01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:21,814
I wanted to go to med school.
2590
01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068
I didn't go out a lot
2591
01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068
just because I was
2592
01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068
in a lot of classes.
2593
01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908
So, it was
2594
01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908
the week before finals,
2595
01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908
and we drove to Potbelly's,
2596
01:13:32,909 --> 01:13:35,661
and we were just hanging out.
2597
01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:38,455
This guy started
2598
01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:38,455
following me around,
2599
01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377
and I, like,
2600
01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377
said to him, "What? Stop."
2601
01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377
You know, "Stop following us."
2602
01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:45,838
And a man standing at the bar
2603
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,550
saw that I was uncomfortable
2604
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,550
with this guy following me,
2605
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,053
and so, he kind of like,
2606
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,053
grabbed me and was like,
2607
01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,139
"This is my girlfriend.
2608
01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,139
Leave her alone."
2609
01:13:55,181 --> 01:13:56,682
And I was like, "Thank you."
2610
01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976
The guy left,
2611
01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976
and I was just like,
2612
01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976
"Thank you."
2613
01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313
And he's like,
2614
01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313
"Do you wanna take a shot?"
2615
01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313
And I said, "Sure."
2616
01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775
So, I turned around, like,
2617
01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775
to make sure that
2618
01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775
this guy was gone
2619
01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,069
and when I turned back around
2620
01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,069
he handed me a shot.
2621
01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367
I'm fairly
2622
01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367
certain that there was
2623
01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367
something in that drink.
2624
01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,079
As a college student,
2625
01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,079
I had been drunk before,
2626
01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:20,706
and I had not
2627
01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:20,706
drank nearly enough
2628
01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:23,834
to become drunk
2629
01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:23,834
and incompetent that night.
2630
01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467
I remember being in a cab,
2631
01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467
and there were three
2632
01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467
guys in the cab also.
2633
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,804
Anyone you ask
2634
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,804
would tell you, like,
2635
01:14:34,845 --> 01:14:36,931
I never would go
2636
01:14:34,845 --> 01:14:36,931
home with a guy, period,
2637
01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934
and especially
2638
01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934
not three people
2639
01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934
that I didn't know.
2640
01:14:41,436 --> 01:14:43,271
I remember specific
2641
01:14:41,436 --> 01:14:43,271
things after that.
2642
01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:46,274
I was in an apartment,
2643
01:14:47,108 --> 01:14:49,485
and this guy was...
2644
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:54,657
Sexually assaulting me.
2645
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:54,657
He was raping me.
2646
01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493
He was on top of me,
2647
01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493
and I couldn't
2648
01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493
really breathe that much,
2649
01:14:57,534 --> 01:15:00,330
but I was saying,
2650
01:14:57,534 --> 01:15:00,330
"Please stop. Stop."
2651
01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:05,960
Like, I remember his roommate
2652
01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:05,960
or whoever this other guy was,
2653
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630
came in and he was saying,
2654
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630
"Dude, stop.
2655
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630
Like, what are you doing?
2656
01:15:09,672 --> 01:15:11,382
"She's telling you to stop."
2657
01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:15,136
Since his door to the bedroom
2658
01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:15,136
wouldn't lock,
2659
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598
he picked me up
2660
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598
and he carried me
2661
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598
into the bathroom.
2662
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,767
He said,
2663
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,767
"The door will lock in here."
2664
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,939
He put me on
2665
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,939
the tile bathroom floor.
2666
01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026
I was trying to, like,
2667
01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026
push him off,
2668
01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026
and kick him off,
2669
01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:32,028
but he was just too big.
2670
01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531
And I said, "Please stop,"
2671
01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531
multiple times,
2672
01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531
and I said, "No".
2673
01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:38,659
Eventually he pushed
2674
01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:38,659
his hand over my face
2675
01:15:38,701 --> 01:15:40,703
and pushed my
2676
01:15:38,701 --> 01:15:40,703
face into the floor.
2677
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:45,541
And he just
2678
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:45,541
continued to rape me.
2679
01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:50,880
He finished and then he put
2680
01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:50,880
my clothes back on,
2681
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:54,591
and he said,
2682
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:54,591
"You can leave now."
2683
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012
And then he's like,
2684
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012
"I'll take you
2685
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012
home on my scooter."
2686
01:15:58,054 --> 01:16:01,349
I mean, okay.
2687
01:15:58,054 --> 01:16:01,349
I had no idea where I was.
2688
01:16:01,391 --> 01:16:03,226
I didn't know how else
2689
01:16:01,391 --> 01:16:03,226
I was supposed to get home.
2690
01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:06,187
I wanted to get out of there.
2691
01:16:07,688 --> 01:16:09,982
This was the worst
2692
01:16:07,688 --> 01:16:09,982
feeling because
2693
01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,651
I didn't wanna hold
2694
01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,651
onto him, you know?
2695
01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,906
But I was afraid that I was
2696
01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,906
gonna fall off of the scooter.
2697
01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242
He dropped me off
2698
01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242
at the intersection
2699
01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242
where I told him
2700
01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953
because I didn't
2701
01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953
want him to know
2702
01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953
where I lived.
2703
01:16:22,995 --> 01:16:26,582
I didn't know, really,
2704
01:16:22,995 --> 01:16:26,582
what I was supposed to do.
2705
01:16:27,833 --> 01:16:30,378
I tweeted, "Someone help me."
2706
01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009
My friend responded,
2707
01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009
and she was like,
2708
01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009
"Well, tell me what happened."
2709
01:16:37,051 --> 01:16:39,845
And we decided that
2710
01:16:37,051 --> 01:16:39,845
we need to call the police.
2711
01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:42,014
(TALKING OVER THE PHONE)
2712
01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:49,063
The Florida State
2713
01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:49,063
University police
2714
01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316
took me in
2715
01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316
the back of a police car
2716
01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316
to the hospital.
2717
01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:57,113
I got all of the blood work,
2718
01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:58,573
and the rape kit,
2719
01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:58,573
and everything.
2720
01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:00,533
They were
2721
01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:00,533
watching bruises appear
2722
01:17:00,575 --> 01:17:02,659
as I was laying in
2723
01:17:00,575 --> 01:17:02,659
the hospital bed.
2724
01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:05,496
We got a call about
2725
01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:05,496
3:00 in the morning.
2726
01:17:05,538 --> 01:17:08,165
We grabbed some stuff
2727
01:17:05,538 --> 01:17:08,165
and we jumped in the car
2728
01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:10,626
and started heading to FSU
2729
01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:10,626
as quick as we could.
2730
01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132
She was laying in
2731
01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132
the hospital bed,
2732
01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132
and we each went to one side,
2733
01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218
and we just held
2734
01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218
her and all three
2735
01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218
of us laid there,
2736
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:21,178
or sat there and cried.
2737
01:17:23,473 --> 01:17:25,891
ERICA: That's when
2738
01:17:23,473 --> 01:17:25,891
investigator Angulo came in.
2739
01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:29,479
And I told him
2740
01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:29,479
kind of everything.
2741
01:17:30,896 --> 01:17:33,065
I'm very pro law enforcement.
2742
01:17:33,107 --> 01:17:34,733
And Tallahassee PD was there,
2743
01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,111
and we assumed they were
2744
01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,111
taking care of things.
2745
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:09,352
ERICA: I went back
2746
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:09,352
in the beginning of January.
2747
01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:11,604
It was my first
2748
01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:11,604
class on Tuesday,
2749
01:18:11,646 --> 01:18:14,649
and I see him
2750
01:18:11,646 --> 01:18:14,649
walk into the class.
2751
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,901
And I knew.
2752
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,901
I was like, "That's him."
2753
01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820
They were about
2754
01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820
to take attendance
2755
01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820
and that's what...
2756
01:18:19,862 --> 01:18:24,116
I needed to stay calm
2757
01:18:19,862 --> 01:18:24,116
and just kind of wait it out.
2758
01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287
He was one of
2759
01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287
the very last names
2760
01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287
that they called,
2761
01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833
and, um, my teacher said,
2762
01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833
"Jameis Winston?"
2763
01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833
and he raised his hand.
2764
01:18:32,875 --> 01:18:35,127
I didn't know who he was.
2765
01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,505
REPORTER 10:
2766
01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,505
The nation's number one
2767
01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,505
high school quarterback,
2768
01:18:37,547 --> 01:18:39,256
Jameis Winston,
2769
01:18:37,547 --> 01:18:39,256
won Gatorade State
2770
01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:41,509
Player of the Year
2771
01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:41,509
this past season.
2772
01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:43,802
Jameis, tell me why
2773
01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:43,802
you chose Florida State.
2774
01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:46,347
Just because we're trying to
2775
01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:46,347
build a tradition there
2776
01:18:46,389 --> 01:18:48,683
and hopefully we can get
2777
01:18:46,389 --> 01:18:48,683
a few national championships
2778
01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,934
and hopefully
2779
01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,934
a Heisman Trophy.
2780
01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896
ERICA: I notified
2781
01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896
Investigator
2782
01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896
Angulo of who it was.
2783
01:18:53,937 --> 01:18:55,731
I think at that
2784
01:18:53,937 --> 01:18:55,731
point he knew that
2785
01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:58,817
he was gonna be
2786
01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:58,817
the big football star.
2787
01:18:58,859 --> 01:19:01,320
He said, "This is
2788
01:18:58,859 --> 01:19:01,320
a huge football town.
2789
01:19:01,362 --> 01:19:03,906
"You really should
2790
01:19:01,362 --> 01:19:03,906
think long and hard about
2791
01:19:03,947 --> 01:19:06,033
"whether you want to
2792
01:19:03,947 --> 01:19:06,033
press charges or not."
2793
01:19:12,707 --> 01:19:14,542
It didn't make
2794
01:19:12,707 --> 01:19:14,542
sense to me, really.
2795
01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:18,879
I... I just thought, like,
2796
01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:18,879
"You know, that's his job.
2797
01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:21,507
"Why isn't he...
2798
01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:21,507
Why is he not gonna do it?"
2799
01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858
COMMENTATOR 1: The hype for
2800
01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858
Jameis Winston is as
2801
01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858
much as I've ever seen
2802
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:41,402
for a first year
2803
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:41,402
starting quarterback.
2804
01:19:41,444 --> 01:19:43,112
Winston, Winston!
2805
01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:45,906
Winston into the end zone!
2806
01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:45,906
Touchdown, Florida State.
2807
01:19:45,948 --> 01:19:48,992
(CROWD CHEERING)
2808
01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:53,497
Sports teams are the business
2809
01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:53,497
on these campuses.
2810
01:19:53,539 --> 01:19:57,752
When you build stadiums
2811
01:19:53,539 --> 01:19:57,752
that cost $200, $300 million,
2812
01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:59,044
when you build
2813
01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:59,044
athletic facilities
2814
01:19:59,086 --> 01:20:01,213
that can get up into
2815
01:19:59,086 --> 01:20:01,213
that range, as well,
2816
01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174
and then you look at the
2817
01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174
multi-billion-dollar
2818
01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174
television contracts.
2819
01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:06,218
When you're talking
2820
01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:06,218
about that kind of money,
2821
01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:08,011
there's an enormous investment
2822
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350
in a student
2823
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350
athlete who may be
2824
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350
a quarterback on a top 20 team
2825
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270
that's pulling in hundreds
2826
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270
of millions of
2827
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270
dollars in revenue.
2828
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,854
REPORTER 11:
2829
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,854
Nineteen-year-old Winston
2830
01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:19,523
is on the verge
2831
01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:19,523
of leading his team
2832
01:20:19,565 --> 01:20:21,024
to the ultimate victory.
2833
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:24,069
Our main goal is to
2834
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:24,069
win a national championship.
2835
01:20:24,111 --> 01:20:26,196
REPORTER 11: He's had
2836
01:20:24,111 --> 01:20:26,196
a meteoric rise to fame,
2837
01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241
becoming
2838
01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241
the starting quarterback
2839
01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241
as a freshman.
2840
01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994
He's a star on the team,
2841
01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994
and that doesn't
2842
01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994
mean he's guilty,
2843
01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:33,746
but the point is
2844
01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041
you have to treat that person
2845
01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041
like you would anyone
2846
01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041
else in these cases,
2847
01:20:38,083 --> 01:20:40,252
and that didn't happen here.
2848
01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,673
Poised to play in and possibly
2849
01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,673
win the national championship,
2850
01:20:43,714 --> 01:20:46,008
a frontrunner for
2851
01:20:43,714 --> 01:20:46,008
the Heisman Trophy award,
2852
01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:47,926
Florida State quarterback,
2853
01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:47,926
Jameis Winston,
2854
01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:51,180
now possibly finds himself
2855
01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:51,180
in some hot water.
2856
01:20:51,221 --> 01:20:53,557
Winston is part of
2857
01:20:51,221 --> 01:20:53,557
an ongoing investigation
2858
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186
into a sexual
2859
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186
assault complaint
2860
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186
filed nearly a year ago,
2861
01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,731
but today was turned over
2862
01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,731
to the State Attorney.
2863
01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:02,608
As soon as I saw
2864
01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:02,608
this story break,
2865
01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655
I thought how terribly,
2866
01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655
terribly unfair it
2867
01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655
is to this young man.
2868
01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825
I think it's very,
2869
01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825
very unfortunate
2870
01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825
that this young dude
2871
01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,868
with this Magic
2872
01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,868
Johnson caliber smile...
2873
01:21:12,909 --> 01:21:13,994
MAN 6: Yup.
2874
01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:15,621
...and a level of production,
2875
01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:16,913
and the things
2876
01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:16,913
that he has done
2877
01:21:16,955 --> 01:21:19,583
en route to pursuing
2878
01:21:16,955 --> 01:21:19,583
a national championship,
2879
01:21:19,625 --> 01:21:22,878
and the Heisman Trophy,
2880
01:21:19,625 --> 01:21:22,878
and now it comes out?
2881
01:21:24,087 --> 01:21:25,381
It just stinks to me.
2882
01:21:31,303 --> 01:21:35,932
DNA analysis confirmed
2883
01:21:31,303 --> 01:21:35,932
the DNA provided by Winston
2884
01:21:35,974 --> 01:21:38,602
matched that sample
2885
01:21:35,974 --> 01:21:38,602
taken from the accuser.
2886
01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774
Although,
2887
01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774
he has never spoken directly
2888
01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774
to cops or prosecutors,
2889
01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027
Jameis Winston,
2890
01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027
through his attorneys,
2891
01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027
maintains his innocence
2892
01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,947
and says any sex
2893
01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,947
was consensual.
2894
01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:53,492
COMMENTATOR 2: Jameis Winston!
2895
01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:53,492
He's into the promised land!
2896
01:21:53,534 --> 01:21:55,369
Touchdown, FSU!
2897
01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:59,874
REPORTER 12:
2898
01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:59,874
His voice, his way, his team.
2899
01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:02,835
ERICA: Our football team
2900
01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:02,835
kept winning games.
2901
01:22:02,877 --> 01:22:05,254
We were gonna play
2902
01:22:02,877 --> 01:22:05,254
in the national championship.
2903
01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:09,592
All these people
2904
01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:09,592
were praising him.
2905
01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555
People were just
2906
01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555
calling me names,
2907
01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555
a slut, a whore.
2908
01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:18,893
I got a tweet
2909
01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:18,893
from a girl who I didn't know.
2910
01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:20,436
The tweet was like,
2911
01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481
"Why would you blame
2912
01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481
such a good guy
2913
01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481
for doing this?"
2914
01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:29,069
People were
2915
01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:29,069
threatening me, my family.
2916
01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615
And there was other people
2917
01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615
that were
2918
01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615
threatening my sorority,
2919
01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:34,909
saying, "We're gonna burn down
2920
01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:34,909
their house."
2921
01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,622
REPORTER 13:
2922
01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,622
Jameis Winston will not be
2923
01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,622
charged with the rape
2924
01:22:39,663 --> 01:22:42,416
that allegedly happened
2925
01:22:39,663 --> 01:22:42,416
exactly a year ago.
2926
01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:46,545
Here's prosecutor
2927
01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:46,545
and FSU alumni Willie Meggs.
2928
01:22:46,587 --> 01:22:49,632
We've carefully examined
2929
01:22:46,587 --> 01:22:49,632
all the evidence in this case
2930
01:22:49,673 --> 01:22:52,968
and have
2931
01:22:49,673 --> 01:22:52,968
concluded that no charges
2932
01:22:53,009 --> 01:22:56,972
will be filed against
2933
01:22:53,009 --> 01:22:56,972
anyone in this case.
2934
01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266
INTERVIEWER: Do you think
2935
01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266
Jameis Winston
2936
01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266
raped that girl?
2937
01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:00,309
Uh...
2938
01:23:02,018 --> 01:23:04,438
I think I did not
2939
01:23:02,018 --> 01:23:04,438
have sufficient evidence
2940
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067
to prove that he
2941
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067
sexually assaulted her
2942
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067
against her will.
2943
01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784
I think things
2944
01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784
that happened there
2945
01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784
that night were not good.
2946
01:23:18,243 --> 01:23:20,329
REPORTER 13: As FSU fights
2947
01:23:18,243 --> 01:23:20,329
for the national title,
2948
01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,289
the alleged victim
2949
01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,289
drops out of school.
2950
01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918
FSU football
2951
01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918
fans all predictably
2952
01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918
delighted by this result.
2953
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,128
(CHEERING)
2954
01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:30,297
Florida State! Whoo!
2955
01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:32,591
(CHEERING)
2956
01:23:32,633 --> 01:23:33,968
MAN 7: Jameis Winston.
2957
01:23:34,009 --> 01:23:35,135
He's amazing!
2958
01:23:34,009 --> 01:23:35,135
What a great guy.
2959
01:23:35,177 --> 01:23:36,303
Jameis Christ.
2960
01:23:36,345 --> 01:23:38,054
That's it.
2961
01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767
The justice system
2962
01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767
was proved right.
2963
01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767
Right? It worked.
2964
01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981
Every school in
2965
01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981
the country that's a big-time
2966
01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981
powerhouse football team
2967
01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:48,983
has players
2968
01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:48,983
dealing with that shit.
2969
01:23:49,024 --> 01:23:51,109
Some girl got jealous
2970
01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:53,028
and wanted to be
2971
01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:53,028
a part of the scene, you know.
2972
01:23:53,654 --> 01:23:55,823
She was a liar.
2973
01:23:57,449 --> 01:23:59,869
Football star, Jameis Winston,
2974
01:23:57,449 --> 01:23:59,869
Florida state quarterback,
2975
01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:01,620
had the game of
2976
01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:01,620
his young life Monday
2977
01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,789
when he led the Seminoles
2978
01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,789
to the national championship.
2979
01:24:28,397 --> 01:24:30,733
(CHEERING)
2980
01:24:30,774 --> 01:24:33,777
WILLIE MEGGS:
2981
01:24:30,774 --> 01:24:33,777
Sexual assault cases
2982
01:24:30,774 --> 01:24:33,777
are always tough.
2983
01:24:33,819 --> 01:24:36,906
Probably the first time
2984
01:24:33,819 --> 01:24:36,906
someone is apprehended
2985
01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:40,200
is not the first
2986
01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:40,200
time that they have, uh...
2987
01:24:40,242 --> 01:24:44,079
Engaged in forceful
2988
01:24:40,242 --> 01:24:44,079
conduct on someone.
2989
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,165
I went to see my
2990
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,165
victim's advocate.
2991
01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:50,293
And in that meeting
2992
01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:50,293
we were just talking.
2993
01:24:50,335 --> 01:24:52,004
She was like,
2994
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049
"We just wanna let you know
2995
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049
there's another
2996
01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049
victim from him."
2997
01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:57,092
(CHEERING)
2998
01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:59,135
MAN 8:
2999
01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:59,135
It's my pleasure to announce
3000
01:24:59,177 --> 01:25:01,931
the 2013 Heisman
3001
01:24:59,177 --> 01:25:01,931
Memorial Trophy winner.
3002
01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:03,473
Jameis Winston,
3003
01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:03,473
Florida State University!
3004
01:25:03,515 --> 01:25:04,934
(CHEERING)
3005
01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:14,109
INTERVIEWER:
3006
01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:14,109
Is it hard for you to believe
3007
01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:14,109
that this has all happened?
3008
01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:20,115
I kind of just
3009
01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:20,115
wanna know, like...
3010
01:25:21,075 --> 01:25:22,117
(SNIFFLES)
3011
01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:24,954
Why me?
3012
01:25:38,801 --> 01:25:40,844
It doesn't really make sense.
3013
01:25:42,054 --> 01:25:44,098
(APPLAUSE)
3014
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:49,728
He won the Heisman Trophy,
3015
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:49,728
and the sad thing about that
3016
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106
is that the world
3017
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106
of college football
3018
01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106
didn't hold him accountable
3019
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:53,523
for the kind of person
3020
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:53,523
that he is off the field.
3021
01:25:56,401 --> 01:25:59,989
The system is
3022
01:25:56,401 --> 01:25:59,989
based largely on money.
3023
01:26:00,030 --> 01:26:02,532
And it's not just revenue
3024
01:26:00,030 --> 01:26:02,532
in terms of TV revenue,
3025
01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911
but it's also
3026
01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911
revenue in terms of
3027
01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911
alumni and trustees.
3028
01:26:07,121 --> 01:26:08,371
JEFF BENEDICT:
3029
01:26:07,121 --> 01:26:08,371
We need to remember
3030
01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:10,666
where the power really lies
3031
01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:10,666
on these campuses.
3032
01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:12,167
Presidents hire
3033
01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:12,167
athletic directors.
3034
01:26:13,418 --> 01:26:15,921
Athletic
3035
01:26:13,418 --> 01:26:15,921
directors hire coaches.
3036
01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966
Coaches then receive salaries
3037
01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966
that are higher
3038
01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966
than the president.
3039
01:26:19,008 --> 01:26:20,383
Tell me your title.
3040
01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:21,551
President of
3041
01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:21,551
Florida State University.
3042
01:26:21,593 --> 01:26:23,095
Wow!
3043
01:26:23,137 --> 01:26:25,014
So, you've got to be
3044
01:26:23,137 --> 01:26:25,014
the happiest man on earth.
3045
01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891
You know what?
3046
01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891
I think it's hard to
3047
01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891
find a happier person.
3048
01:26:27,933 --> 01:26:30,144
No doubt about it.
3049
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,981
JEFF:
3050
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,981
These cases are nightmares
3051
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,981
for college presidents.
3052
01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526
This is college presidents
3053
01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526
who hold their nose
3054
01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526
and cover their ears
3055
01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362
because they know
3056
01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362
that this is
3057
01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362
part of what comes
3058
01:26:40,403 --> 01:26:41,738
with the big
3059
01:26:40,403 --> 01:26:41,738
business of college sports.
3060
01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,492
There is a great fear
3061
01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,492
among many presidents
3062
01:26:45,534 --> 01:26:49,579
of alienating important,
3063
01:26:45,534 --> 01:26:49,579
influential people.
3064
01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959
What's the number
3065
01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959
one responsibility
3066
01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959
of a college president?
3067
01:26:55,127 --> 01:26:56,628
Fundraising.
3068
01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:59,214
$100 million to UC San Diego,
3069
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:01,299
the second largest gift
3070
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:01,299
in the school's history.
3071
01:27:01,341 --> 01:27:03,844
$200 million.
3072
01:27:03,886 --> 01:27:05,637
That's the gift
3073
01:27:03,886 --> 01:27:05,637
University of Michigan
3074
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,764
alum Stephen Ross has
3075
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,764
given to the school.
3076
01:27:07,806 --> 01:27:09,307
Harvard
3077
01:27:07,806 --> 01:27:09,307
University has received
3078
01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,768
the largest donation
3079
01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,768
in the school's history,
3080
01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:14,479
$350 million.
3081
01:27:14,521 --> 01:27:16,148
Good Lord,
3082
01:27:14,521 --> 01:27:16,148
that's a lot of money, Joe.
3083
01:27:17,691 --> 01:27:19,401
DANIELLE DIRKS:
3084
01:27:17,691 --> 01:27:19,401
Colleges are big business.
3085
01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071
They have boards
3086
01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071
that are trying to
3087
01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071
maintain their endowments,
3088
01:27:22,112 --> 01:27:24,198
and they don't want anything
3089
01:27:22,112 --> 01:27:24,198
that's going to touch that.
3090
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,282
This is about
3091
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,282
millions and billions
3092
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,326
of dollars being
3093
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,326
spent every year
3094
01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,620
to keep this
3095
01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,620
institution running.
3096
01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042
Harvard is in the midst
3097
01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042
of a $6 billion
3098
01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042
capital campaign.
3099
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,921
Donors might be
3100
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,921
troubled if they understood
3101
01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840
the magnitude
3102
01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840
of sexual assault
3103
01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840
on the campus.
3104
01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094
I think that's
3105
01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094
part of the effort to
3106
01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094
silence the problem.
3107
01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,890
Numerous times
3108
01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,890
I was taken aside
3109
01:27:49,932 --> 01:27:52,392
by a senior tenured
3110
01:27:49,932 --> 01:27:52,392
female faculty person
3111
01:27:52,434 --> 01:27:54,103
and told the way to
3112
01:27:52,434 --> 01:27:54,103
make it at Harvard
3113
01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,021
is by being
3114
01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,021
a dutiful daughter.
3115
01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,857
"If you hear it,
3116
01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,857
pretend you didn't.
3117
01:27:58,899 --> 01:28:02,069
"If you see it,
3118
01:27:58,899 --> 01:28:02,069
you shut up about it.
3119
01:28:02,111 --> 01:28:03,278
"Silence."
3120
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054
There's a reason
3121
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054
we haven't seen
3122
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054
more faculty involved.
3123
01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142
It does harm your career
3124
01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142
in ways that you
3125
01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142
can't even predict.
3126
01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:35,560
Certainly if you're untenured,
3127
01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:35,560
but even if you are tenured,
3128
01:28:35,602 --> 01:28:37,271
it makes it
3129
01:28:35,602 --> 01:28:37,271
much more difficult
3130
01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:38,981
to move from one
3131
01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:38,981
institution to the next
3132
01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,650
if you've been branded
3133
01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,650
an activist or a troublemaker.
3134
01:28:41,691 --> 01:28:43,359
I've had the honor
3135
01:28:41,691 --> 01:28:43,359
to work with students
3136
01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:44,987
who've been asking
3137
01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:44,987
these kinds of questions
3138
01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:46,947
for the five years
3139
01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:46,947
that I've been here.
3140
01:28:46,989 --> 01:28:48,448
We heard that
3141
01:28:46,989 --> 01:28:48,448
things were gonna happen,
3142
01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:50,659
but then there was
3143
01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:50,659
no conversation about it.
3144
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453
And I think there's a huge gap
3145
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453
in between that
3146
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453
still needs to,
3147
01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,331
A, be bridged, and to be
3148
01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,331
discussed more publicly.
3149
01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730
I feel like there's
3150
01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730
this moral high ground
3151
01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730
in higher education
3152
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:22,524
that is just sitting vacant.
3153
01:29:22,565 --> 01:29:27,112
What I haven't yet seen
3154
01:29:22,565 --> 01:29:27,112
anywhere, that I'm aware of,
3155
01:29:27,154 --> 01:29:30,824
is a president who has decided
3156
01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:34,369
that whatever it takes,
3157
01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:34,369
it has to be done.
3158
01:29:35,704 --> 01:29:37,413
And that's what leadership is.
3159
01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:40,500
...that we would
3160
01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:40,500
tolerate for one moment
3161
01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:43,795
sexual violence and
3162
01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:43,795
intimidation on our campus.
3163
01:29:43,837 --> 01:29:46,965
These assumptions
3164
01:29:43,837 --> 01:29:46,965
are patently false,
3165
01:29:47,007 --> 01:29:50,135
and such speculations
3166
01:29:47,007 --> 01:29:50,135
are very, very inappropriate.
3167
01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701
At the end of the day,
3168
01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701
I think we share
3169
01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701
all the same goals,
3170
01:30:56,743 --> 01:30:59,204
which is to
3171
01:30:56,743 --> 01:30:59,204
create a safe place
3172
01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:01,415
where all our
3173
01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:01,415
students can thrive.
3174
01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,763
Of your 25
3175
01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,763
possible complainants,
3176
01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:18,932
how many of
3177
01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:18,932
them are survivors?
3178
01:31:19,349 --> 01:31:20,392
Twenty.
3179
01:31:21,684 --> 01:31:23,228
ANNIE: How many are
3180
01:31:21,684 --> 01:31:23,228
willing to go public?
3181
01:31:25,021 --> 01:31:28,108
Um, probably five.
3182
01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:29,734
So, what about just
3183
01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:29,734
a press conference?
3184
01:31:29,776 --> 01:31:31,485
Yeah. That I think
3185
01:31:29,776 --> 01:31:31,485
could be good.
3186
01:31:32,821 --> 01:31:33,989
(WOMEN LAUGHING)
3187
01:31:35,489 --> 01:31:36,490
(INDISTINCT TALKING)
3188
01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,042
SOFIE:
3189
01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,042
Good morning, and thank you
3190
01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,042
for your attendance
3191
01:31:46,084 --> 01:31:47,543
at this important event.
3192
01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,879
My name is Sofie Karasek,
3193
01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,879
and I'm a third year student
3194
01:31:49,921 --> 01:31:51,965
here at the University of
3195
01:31:49,921 --> 01:31:51,965
California, Berkeley.
3196
01:31:52,007 --> 01:31:53,507
My name is Meghan Warner.
3197
01:31:53,549 --> 01:31:54,968
My name is Iman Stenson.
3198
01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,387
My name is Shannon Thomas,
3199
01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,387
and I'm a proud fourth-year,
3200
01:31:57,429 --> 01:31:58,805
soon to be graduate,
3201
01:31:57,429 --> 01:31:58,805
of UC Berkeley.
3202
01:31:58,847 --> 01:32:00,556
I'm a survivor of
3203
01:31:58,847 --> 01:32:00,556
a sexual assault
3204
01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:03,018
that occurred
3205
01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:03,018
less than a year ago.
3206
01:32:03,059 --> 01:32:05,687
"I didn't realize at the time
3207
01:32:03,059 --> 01:32:05,687
that the nightmare I was in
3208
01:32:05,728 --> 01:32:07,605
"was not limited to
3209
01:32:05,728 --> 01:32:07,605
the night of the assault."
3210
01:32:07,647 --> 01:32:09,316
"The process that
3211
01:32:07,647 --> 01:32:09,316
followed is far more
3212
01:32:09,358 --> 01:32:11,234
"upsetting than
3213
01:32:09,358 --> 01:32:11,234
the assault itself."
3214
01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:13,695
"When I looked at resources
3215
01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:13,695
from the university online,
3216
01:32:13,736 --> 01:32:15,364
"I saw that most were
3217
01:32:13,736 --> 01:32:15,364
for the perpetrator,
3218
01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241
"including an infographic
3219
01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241
for what to do
3220
01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241
if you're accused,
3221
01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:20,702
"not what to do if you're
3222
01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:20,702
a survivor seeking help."
3223
01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871
"She made me feel like
3224
01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871
what happened to
3225
01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871
me wasn't real,
3226
01:32:22,912 --> 01:32:25,165
"like it wasn't a big deal,
3227
01:32:22,912 --> 01:32:25,165
like it was my fault."
3228
01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:27,000
"My fault."
3229
01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:27,000
"My fault."
3230
01:32:27,042 --> 01:32:30,586
"Sexual assault at UC Berkeley
3231
01:32:27,042 --> 01:32:30,586
is an epidemic."
3232
01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:33,673
REPORTER 14:
3233
01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:33,673
Several female students say
3234
01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:33,673
they were sexually assaulted
3235
01:32:33,715 --> 01:32:35,758
on the University
3236
01:32:33,715 --> 01:32:35,758
of California campus,
3237
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,469
but they weren't
3238
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,469
taken seriously.
3239
01:32:38,845 --> 01:32:40,554
ANNIE: We were tracking
3240
01:32:38,845 --> 01:32:40,554
the media frame
3241
01:32:40,596 --> 01:32:42,057
and how it changed,
3242
01:32:40,596 --> 01:32:42,057
and where it spiked,
3243
01:32:42,098 --> 01:32:44,142
and what articles worked,
3244
01:32:42,098 --> 01:32:44,142
and what didn't.
3245
01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479
These students who spoke today
3246
01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479
went from sexual
3247
01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479
assault victims
3248
01:32:47,521 --> 01:32:49,689
to survivors
3249
01:32:47,521 --> 01:32:49,689
and now activists.
3250
01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:52,734
Their efforts are
3251
01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:52,734
gaining the attention...
3252
01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028
ANNIE: We saw what was
3253
01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028
effective, and that was
3254
01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028
personal narrative,
3255
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:57,322
and putting a face
3256
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:57,322
and a name to the issues.
3257
01:32:58,614 --> 01:33:00,950
My name is Carolyn Luby.
3258
01:33:00,992 --> 01:33:02,952
My name is Alexa Schwartz.
3259
01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081
My name is Ari Mostov,
3260
01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081
and I would
3261
01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081
like to provide you
3262
01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084
with a more personal account
3263
01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084
of the kind of
3264
01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084
abuses that occurred here
3265
01:33:09,125 --> 01:33:11,711
at the University of
3266
01:33:09,125 --> 01:33:11,711
Southern California.
3267
01:33:11,753 --> 01:33:14,923
My name is Hope Brinn.
3268
01:33:11,753 --> 01:33:14,923
I'm a sophomore at Swarthmore.
3269
01:33:14,964 --> 01:33:16,841
I was sexually
3270
01:33:14,964 --> 01:33:16,841
assaulted and stalked
3271
01:33:16,883 --> 01:33:18,927
by fellow
3272
01:33:16,883 --> 01:33:18,927
students on this campus.
3273
01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304
I was raped
3274
01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304
during my freshman year
3275
01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304
at Occidental.
3276
01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:23,432
I wish that I had
3277
01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:23,432
not been discouraged
3278
01:33:23,473 --> 01:33:25,599
by a dean from
3279
01:33:23,473 --> 01:33:25,599
reporting my rape.
3280
01:33:25,641 --> 01:33:27,519
I'm filing as
3281
01:33:25,641 --> 01:33:27,519
the lead complainant
3282
01:33:27,561 --> 01:33:29,104
against
3283
01:33:27,561 --> 01:33:29,104
the University of Connecticut.
3284
01:33:29,145 --> 01:33:30,604
Against UC Berkeley.
3285
01:33:30,646 --> 01:33:31,647
Against
3286
01:33:30,646 --> 01:33:31,647
the institution that I love.
3287
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:36,986
Okay, let's go!
3288
01:33:37,028 --> 01:33:38,405
(CHEERING)
3289
01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,883
MAN 9:
3290
01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,883
Seeing students over the last
3291
01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,883
year to two years
3292
01:33:58,925 --> 01:34:01,803
almost taking control of this,
3293
01:34:01,844 --> 01:34:03,846
for me it's been
3294
01:34:01,844 --> 01:34:03,846
a miraculous thing to witness.
3295
01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059
For my senior thesis,
3296
01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059
I will be carrying
3297
01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059
the mattress with me
3298
01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:11,396
as long as he is
3299
01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:11,396
still on this campus.
3300
01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:13,565
ANNIE: Our individual stories
3301
01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:13,565
are what makes this a story.
3302
01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,403
Here is the experience
3303
01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,403
of 700 survivors.
3304
01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156
ANDREA: And unless
3305
01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156
something happens,
3306
01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156
it's not going to change.
3307
01:34:22,616 --> 01:34:24,326
There is
3308
01:34:22,616 --> 01:34:24,326
a revolution happening
3309
01:34:24,367 --> 01:34:26,660
on campuses
3310
01:34:24,367 --> 01:34:26,660
across the country,
3311
01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081
and I'm very hopeful
3312
01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081
that this really is our
3313
01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081
watershed moment.
3314
01:34:34,794 --> 01:34:36,338
We are fed up!
3315
01:34:36,379 --> 01:34:37,464
(CROWD REPEATS)
3316
01:34:37,506 --> 01:34:39,007
With your university!
3317
01:34:39,048 --> 01:34:40,925
STUDENT 1:
3318
01:34:39,048 --> 01:34:40,925
Dartmouth has a problem!
3319
01:34:40,967 --> 01:34:41,968
ALL: Dartmouth has a problem!
3320
01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:43,470
...assault and harassment,
3321
01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472
and today we decide
3322
01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472
that we will no
3323
01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472
longer tolerate it.
3324
01:34:45,514 --> 01:34:46,473
STUDENT 2: What do we want?
3325
01:34:45,514 --> 01:34:46,473
ALL: A safe campus!
3326
01:34:47,807 --> 01:34:49,184
STUDENT 2: When do we want it?
3327
01:34:47,807 --> 01:34:49,184
ALL: Now!
3328
01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686
ALL: We're watching!
3329
01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686
We're here!
3330
01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686
We've made ourselves clear!
3331
01:34:54,314 --> 01:34:56,732
ANNIE:
3332
01:34:54,314 --> 01:34:56,732
It was happening so quickly.
3333
01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,444
I mean, within a year
3334
01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,444
of our complaint against UNC,
3335
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905
the issue had
3336
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905
shot to the top of
3337
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905
the national agenda.
3338
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:04,658
KIRSTEN: Thank you so much
3339
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:04,658
for coming to my office.
3340
01:35:04,698 --> 01:35:06,201
What else do you
3341
01:35:04,698 --> 01:35:06,201
think we need to do?
3342
01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619
ANNIE: Do you wanna
3343
01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619
run through
3344
01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619
some of those items
3345
01:35:07,661 --> 01:35:09,329
on the list
3346
01:35:07,661 --> 01:35:09,329
that we marked off?
3347
01:35:09,371 --> 01:35:11,540
Yeah. Sure, sure, sure.
3348
01:35:09,371 --> 01:35:11,540
Yeah, I have my list.
3349
01:35:11,581 --> 01:35:13,208
ANDREA: The week
3350
01:35:11,581 --> 01:35:13,208
before my senior finals,
3351
01:35:13,249 --> 01:35:15,293
I was in DC,
3352
01:35:13,249 --> 01:35:15,293
talking to senators.
3353
01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463
BARACK OBAMA: We have seen
3354
01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463
an inspiring wave
3355
01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463
of student-led activism
3356
01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674
and a growing
3357
01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674
number of students
3358
01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674
who found the courage
3359
01:35:20,714 --> 01:35:22,800
to come forward
3360
01:35:20,714 --> 01:35:22,800
and report attacks.
3361
01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:24,802
We owe all these
3362
01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:24,802
brave young people
3363
01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:26,012
an extraordinary
3364
01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:26,012
debt of gratitude,
3365
01:35:26,929 --> 01:35:29,057
but we cannot stop there.
3366
01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602
I still hear
3367
01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602
stories from survivors
3368
01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602
whose experiences reporting
3369
01:35:32,644 --> 01:35:35,647
to the school sound
3370
01:35:32,644 --> 01:35:35,647
exactly like mine.
3371
01:35:35,689 --> 01:35:37,065
Activists all
3372
01:35:35,689 --> 01:35:37,065
around the country
3373
01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:38,525
were speaking
3374
01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:38,525
out on this issue.
3375
01:35:38,567 --> 01:35:40,068
"Stand up for justice.
3376
01:35:40,109 --> 01:35:41,777
"Don't let other students go
3377
01:35:40,109 --> 01:35:41,777
what I went through."
3378
01:35:41,819 --> 01:35:43,196
(INDISTINCT CHANTING)
3379
01:35:43,238 --> 01:35:45,198
ANNIE: It used to be that
3380
01:35:43,238 --> 01:35:45,198
the department of education
3381
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201
didn't release
3382
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201
names of who was
3383
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201
under investigation,
3384
01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869
but after
3385
01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869
pressure from a lot of
3386
01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869
student activists,
3387
01:35:49,911 --> 01:35:51,787
they've begun to do that.
3388
01:35:51,829 --> 01:35:54,207
Fifty-five
3389
01:35:51,829 --> 01:35:54,207
colleges and universities
3390
01:35:54,249 --> 01:35:57,711
facing a Title IX
3391
01:35:54,249 --> 01:35:57,711
sexual abuse investigation.
3392
01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,337
Sixty universities
3393
01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,337
have been put on notice
3394
01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,423
by the Department
3395
01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,423
of Education.
3396
01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799
REPORTER 15: More than
3397
01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799
70 schools nationwide
3398
01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799
are now under investigation.
3399
01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326
ANDREA: We have over 70
3400
01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326
that are currently
3401
01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326
being investigated.
3402
01:36:30,368 --> 01:36:32,621
ANNIE: When they released
3403
01:36:30,368 --> 01:36:32,621
that list of schools,
3404
01:36:32,662 --> 01:36:34,788
that map of where
3405
01:36:32,662 --> 01:36:34,788
they pinpointed it
3406
01:36:35,957 --> 01:36:36,832
matched our map.
3407
01:36:45,216 --> 01:36:46,509
(INDISTINCT TALKING)
3408
01:36:47,260 --> 01:36:49,596
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
3409
01:37:02,692 --> 01:37:03,777
(CAMERA CLICKS)
3410
01:37:03,817 --> 01:37:05,403
I wanna do a close-up.
3411
01:37:08,072 --> 01:37:09,449
Okay.
3412
01:37:20,502 --> 01:37:24,547
Welcome to the 2014
3413
01:37:20,502 --> 01:37:24,547
spring commencement
3414
01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634
at the University
3415
01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634
of North Carolina
3416
01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634
at Chapel Hill.
3417
01:37:38,186 --> 01:37:40,689
Here at Notre Dame,
3418
01:37:38,186 --> 01:37:40,689
we wanna be
3419
01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:42,607
not just another
3420
01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:42,607
Harvard or Oxford,
3421
01:37:42,649 --> 01:37:45,276
but a Bethlehem,
3422
01:37:42,649 --> 01:37:45,276
a Nazareth, a Calvary,
3423
01:37:45,318 --> 01:37:47,861
a Cana, the upper room
3424
01:37:45,318 --> 01:37:47,861
at Pentecost.
3425
01:37:50,281 --> 01:37:52,784
RACHEL: You know,
3426
01:37:50,281 --> 01:37:52,784
I'm still practicing my faith.
3427
01:37:53,993 --> 01:37:55,869
But something I
3428
01:37:53,993 --> 01:37:55,869
believed in so long
3429
01:37:55,911 --> 01:37:58,456
and had so much
3430
01:37:55,911 --> 01:37:58,456
trust in just failed.
3431
01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960
I have to remind myself that
3432
01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960
people sin and
3433
01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960
people aren't good.
3434
01:38:03,002 --> 01:38:05,921
And so, I just have
3435
01:38:03,002 --> 01:38:05,921
to remind myself that.
3436
01:38:14,305 --> 01:38:17,266
DREW FAUST: What do
3437
01:38:14,305 --> 01:38:17,266
universities owe the future?
3438
01:38:18,685 --> 01:38:22,355
We owe the future meaning.
3439
01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:25,483
Universities must nurture
3440
01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:25,483
the ability to interpret,
3441
01:38:25,525 --> 01:38:27,527
to make critical judgments,
3442
01:38:27,569 --> 01:38:30,279
to dare to ask
3443
01:38:27,569 --> 01:38:30,279
the biggest questions.
3444
01:38:30,321 --> 01:38:32,574
What is good? What is just?
3445
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079
You know, I'll see someone
3446
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079
who looks like
3447
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079
him on the street,
3448
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,665
and I don't want to say that
3449
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,665
I'm afraid of him,
3450
01:38:40,707 --> 01:38:45,002
but, um, yeah, it's shocking.
3451
01:38:45,044 --> 01:38:47,547
It was three years ago,
3452
01:38:47,589 --> 01:38:50,550
and it's still right up here.
3453
01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,736
Your reputation
3454
01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,736
is what you have
3455
01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:12,739
when you come
3456
01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:12,739
into Florida state.
3457
01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241
Your character
3458
01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241
is what you have
3459
01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241
when you leave Florida State.
3460
01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707
ERICA: I know that was
3461
01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707
the right thing to do,
3462
01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707
to come forward.
3463
01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335
But Investigator
3464
01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335
Angulo was right
3465
01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335
whenever he said
3466
01:39:26,377 --> 01:39:29,963
that I would be
3467
01:39:26,377 --> 01:39:29,963
driven out of Tallahassee.
3468
01:39:48,190 --> 01:39:50,192
ANNOUNCER: Andrea Lynn Pino.
3469
01:39:50,234 --> 01:39:51,778
(CLAPPING)
3470
01:40:12,256 --> 01:40:15,677
Yeah, my name's Mike,
3471
01:40:12,256 --> 01:40:15,677
and my daughter was raped
3472
01:40:15,718 --> 01:40:17,052
at the University
3473
01:40:15,718 --> 01:40:17,052
of California
3474
01:40:17,094 --> 01:40:18,847
Santa Barbara
3475
01:40:17,094 --> 01:40:18,847
a week and a half ago.
3476
01:40:20,932 --> 01:40:25,478
After they were done with her,
3477
01:40:20,932 --> 01:40:25,478
they just dumped her.
3478
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314
When she got back
3479
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314
from the hospital,
3480
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314
she called the school
3481
01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:30,900
and told them that
3482
01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:30,900
she wanted to go forward.
3483
01:40:32,318 --> 01:40:36,865
From there it has
3484
01:40:32,318 --> 01:40:36,865
been an absolute joke.
3485
01:40:36,906 --> 01:40:39,951
Nobody up there
3486
01:40:36,906 --> 01:40:39,951
wants to help us.
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