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I always think about Lucie.
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Thirty years after her death,
I still can't let it go away.
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- Hey, Lucie.
- Hey!
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You wanna take that last call
for the Banff Springs?
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OK.
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How horrific her death was.
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It's horrendous. It's tragic.
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People are
starting to realize that Banff
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is no longer the quiet,
safe little place it once was.
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I want a list of
every male employee in town
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that matches the suspect's description.
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There are police everywhere
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and people here are shocked. They
can't believe what happened.
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A small town with a transient population
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where people are moving in and out
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makes an investigation
much more difficult.
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We need to go bigger.
Something international.
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Somebody knew something.
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Let's run the DNA on this blood.
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At the end of the rainbow,
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there's one guy with
that unique DNA that we want.
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Hey!
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It's one of those cases where
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you'll never forget.
I'll never forget it.
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Nestled in the Rocky Mountains,
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Banff has the look of a natural
and tranquil paradise.
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Cases of violent crime
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are extremely rare in Banff.
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Banff is one of the most
beautiful places on Earth.
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It's serene, it's quiet.
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People come from around the world
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to experience the mountains and
the mountain life and to ski.
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Three million tourists and transients
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pass through Banff every year.
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People here were genuinely shocked
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such a thing could happen
in this small resort town.
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It's a very tourist type of town
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so to have a serious crime
such as a murder
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in that town is very odd.
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Up until yesterday,
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that was Banff's most recent murder...
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It had been thirty years
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since the last murder in Banff
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and that's why we were called in.
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Originally when I heard that
there had been a homicide
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in Banff, I assumed that
it might've been as a result
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of a fight in a bar,
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certainly not that a young cab
driver had uh, lost her life
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and was laying
in the middle of the road.
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The first thing that caught
my attention was
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this yellow blanket that was
laying over top of the body
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and uh, that is basically a no-no.
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Why is there a sheet
covering our victim?
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You are?
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Doug Morrison, Calgary office.
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Nigel Paterson, Banff.
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That's a... that's an elementary
school right there.
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We don't want the kids seeing this.
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My daughter goes there.
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Well, your sheet ruined
what blood spatter
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evidence we could've
collected from the body.
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What are you thinking?
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I'm thinking she was stabbed.
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She has cuts on her hands,
defensive wounds.
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She put up a fight.
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Knowing the dynamics of the community,
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actually, I was shocked.
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This is a violent, violent act
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done by a violent, violent person.
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You find the murder weapon?
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No.
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What about her wallet?
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No. But her name's Lucie Turmel.
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Local cab driver.
She was last seen picking up
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- a fare at 1:30 a.m.
- Who saw her?
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Larry Laundreau. Works
at the same cab company.
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Lucie was new to the cab industry
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and on that night, she was working
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the evening shift with Larry.
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Detective Morrison, RCMP. I
understand you knew our victim.
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Lucie. Yeah, I let her... take
the last ride from the Springs.
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Get a good luck at the passengers?
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He then told us Lucie had picked up
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some passengers from
The Works night club,
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which is situated in
the Banff Springs Hotel.
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Larry was behind Lucie when
she picked up these people
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and Larry was next in queue
to pick up the next fare.
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Later on in the early morning hours,
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Larry saw something uh, unusual.
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Larry, have you seen Lucie?
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She's not answering her radio.
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Uh, no, not since I left the Springs.
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Wait, uh, hold on? Yeah, you
know, I think I see her car.
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How many cars you got out
on the road tonight?
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Just you and Lucie.
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OK, I call the police. I think
someone stole Lucie's car.
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There's a guy driving it.
I'm gonna follow him.
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Larry had told us that he had observed
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an unknown male driving Lucie's taxi.
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He managed to turn
around and give chase.
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Was the man she picked up
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the same person as the man you chased?
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Could be, I don't know.
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Where'd you chase him to?
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Uh, to Mountain Avenue.
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It's a couple of minutes
from here. Car's still there.
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I got a guy guarding it.
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I'd like to see her car.
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So um... I stopped my car
right there and I jumped out.
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Hey! Hey. Hey!
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And then, I chased him for a few
steps but uh, then he got away.
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He was able to
give us a physical description
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of the male that got out of that cab.
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He was probably under the age of 25,
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around six-foot tall, dark hair,
thin build and away he went.
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Larry, if you wouldn't mind
um, waiting by my car
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for a few minutes while
we have a look around?
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Pretty good place to cut
and run? Right into the woods.
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Yeah, what's uh...
what's beyond those woods?
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Houses.
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Maybe he lives there.
We should get our...
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our officers canvassing the area.
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Blood could be Lucie's or our killer's.
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Maybe he stabbed her in the car
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and then chased her out.
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Or maybe his hand slipped
and he cut himself.
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In most crimes with a knife,
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the individual ends up stabbing
himself or cutting himself
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and so he leaves a portion
of his blood behind.
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So maybe this is not Lucie's blood.
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This may be our perpetrator's blood.
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We should check all area hospitals,
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see if anyone's treated for cuts.
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Let's uh, run DNA on this blood.
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DNA?
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DNA largely was
new to us in law enforcement.
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Certainly across Canada.
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And so that was all brand new
to all our uniform folks,
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certainly in Banff.
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- This is her last fare.
- Mm hm?
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1:35, The Works, Banff Springs
Hotel. Drop off 600 Cougar.
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Larry? You know who this is?
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Yeah, that's uh, Jeff, her boyfriend.
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He's a waiter at the Grizzly House.
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That's downtown. They should
be opening pretty soon.
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- I'll go talk to him.
- No. No.
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Let's get this car impounded
and into forensics.
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I'll um, notify Jeff and...
follow up on her last fare.
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Lucie was from the province of Quebec.
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Jeff was an Albertan, living in Banff.
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Lucie and Jeffrey ended up
finding each other and they had
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big plans that they were going
to end up getting married
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and staying in Banff.
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- We're getting married.
- I'm very sorry.
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- We think she was robbed.
- Robbed!
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She only had 130 bucks!
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How do you know that?
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She told me when I saw her.
She came by here last night.
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Lucie stopped by to say goodnight to him
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cause he was getting ready to go to bed.
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she was still working her shift.
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- Hey, beautiful.
- Hey!
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- Have you hit your magic number yet?
- Mm mm.
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- Where you at?
- $130.
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Bars are still open
for another half-hour.
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You can still pick up
a couple more fares.
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Yeah. See ya.
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Je t'aime.
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I love you too.
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She was trying to save up
for our wedding.
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He was devastated.
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Obviously, he loved the girl.
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At first, he couldn't believe
because he'd just seen her.
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And then uh, he broke down.
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The tragedy of a young womans
murder has had consequences
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for virtually everyone who lives here.
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Lucie was a very pleasant
girl, she was always happy.
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She uh, had a very positive
attitude about life.
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What happened was devastating.
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Seeing her laying out there and stuff
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it just... it gets you thinking.
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Lucie Turmel picked up
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her last fare at The Works,
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a night club in the Banff Springs Hotel.
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Police say it's critical that they find
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three people who got
into Lucie's taxi here
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at the Banff Springs Hotel
Works night club
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ABOUT 1:30 Thursday morning.
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The three were Lucie's last fare.
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We went to The Work night club
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and spoke with a number of
employees that were working
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Can I help you?
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Can I help you?
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Yeah, Doug Morrison, RCMP.
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You heard about the cabbie
who was killed...
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Lucie Turmel?
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We also spoke with the manager.
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She would've left with
a man and two women.
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Would've called a cab around 1:15, 1:30?
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I'm sorry. It was payday
for seasonals, so...
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shoulder-to-shoulder all night.
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All right. All right. Can you get me
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a list of all your employees that
were working here last night?
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As well as... anyone else you remember.
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- Of course.
- Thank you.
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We weren't able to substantiate
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any of these people leaving
The Works that night.
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Looking at her log book,
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we know that Lucie took
those fares from The Works
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in Banff Springs Hotel to an address
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on Cougar Street.
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We went to Cougar.
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On the night of Lucie's death,
there was a house party
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on Cougar Street that went till
the wee hours of the morning.
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Hi! Big party last night.
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Doug Morrison, RCMP.
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Lucie Turmel. She would've
dropped off a man and two women
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here last night around
1:45 in the morning?
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I'm sorry, it was a big party.
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Yeah? For who?
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Just friends. Mostly people I work with.
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Was anyone injured?
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Maybe cuts on the hand,
anything like that?
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No.
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Listen, I'm gonna need you
and your roommates to come
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to the station...
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and help us figure out who was
at your party, all right?
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Sure, I'll let them know.
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We'd spent a
lot of time trying to track down
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who those passengers were.
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In fact, we canvassed
that whole street and...
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without any luck at all.
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Lucie's last drop-off was on Cougar.
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But her body was found
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a half-hour later only two blocks away.
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Was she called out again?
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I can check that.
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No. That was her last fare.
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Is it possible she picked up
a fare without calling it in?
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Maybe, you know, making a
little extra cash on the side?
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Sure. It's part of
the business. I don't like it.
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But it happens.
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So it's possible we don't know
when or where her last fare was.
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No. It's small fares, small town.
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Those things slip through the cracks.
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Thank you.
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It's certainly possible that
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Lucie saw this individual
and knew this individual,
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the guy was standing on the
street corner and she pulled up
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and he says "Hey, can you
give me a ride home?"
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She picked him up and
he ended up being her killer.
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At least fifteen Mounties and
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a dozen park rangers are
now checking every lead.
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The Mounties won't say whether the
victim was sexually assaulted
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or how she died until
an autopsy is done tomorrow.
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At this point, none of the information
258
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that was provided to us
in those early morning hours
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we could substantiate.
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And so that was...
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a mystery.
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Who would want to kill this young lady
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in the middle of the street.
264
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We had no idea.
265
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A lot of the
locals in Banff were fearful.
266
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Somebody's been killed in
the middle of a bloody street
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with a knife. Who's next?
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I'm quite shocked about it all.
269
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In fact, I'm even a little bit
concerned about myself
270
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being out walking around
in the evenings.
271
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People are probably starting
to realize, you know,
272
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that there's crime here,
just like the city.
273
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It's not something that you expect here.
274
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People here
are realizing that their town is
275
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no longer as quiet, peaceful
and safe as it used to be.
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As police hunt for a killer,
many people here are
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for the first time locking
their doors at night.
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The autopsy report came back.
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No sexual assault. She was
stabbed seventeen times
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in the face and neck.
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To exhibit that much rage
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on another human being,
283
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this guy is one dangerous guy.
284
00:15:13,035 --> 00:15:15,837
We contact Lucie's family in Quebec?
285
00:15:15,871 --> 00:15:17,806
Yeah. They took it pretty hard.
286
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They want her body flown back
for the funeral.
287
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Of course.
288
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Can they think of any reason why anyone
289
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would want to do something like this?
290
00:15:23,913 --> 00:15:27,350
No. She was a pretty
popular girl back home.
291
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Well-liked.
292
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Popular here, too.
293
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From all the information that I gathered
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from all of her friends,
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she was a free-spirit, she was
going out to experience Banff
296
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and she would do jobs that other women
297
00:15:42,298 --> 00:15:43,965
probably wouldn't do
and that's certainly
298
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driving a cab and driving
a cab at night.
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The search goes on. Dozens of Mounties
300
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and park rangers combing
the outskirts of Banff,
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00:15:56,509 --> 00:15:58,713
looking for clues
that'll lead them to the kille.
302
00:15:58,747 --> 00:16:01,643
At least one witness saw
a young man run into the trees
303
00:16:01,668 --> 00:16:04,886
ABOUT 2:00 yesterday morning
after skidding to a stop
304
00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,659
on Mountain Avenue in this taxi.
305
00:16:07,683 --> 00:16:11,059
Now we're looking for
one individual in a town site
306
00:16:11,093 --> 00:16:15,430
of probably at that time,
maybe 2,000 males that fit
307
00:16:15,464 --> 00:16:18,132
that profile of that guy
jumping out of the cab
308
00:16:18,167 --> 00:16:19,267
and running into the bush.
309
00:16:24,773 --> 00:16:26,708
Thanks.
310
00:16:28,677 --> 00:16:31,145
Just got a tip about
some French-Canadian guy
311
00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:34,482
named Luc Benoit. Apparently,
he was seen getting drunk
312
00:16:34,516 --> 00:16:37,018
and threatening people at a bar
the night Lucie was killed.
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00:16:37,052 --> 00:16:38,887
Says he was threatening people
with a big knife
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strapped to his boot.
315
00:16:43,592 --> 00:16:45,447
Let's bring him in.
316
00:16:46,981 --> 00:16:49,505
The staff at a bar were concerned that
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they had an individual in
there that was intoxicated.
318
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He was waving a knife around.
319
00:16:56,596 --> 00:16:59,298
And so this individual was
picked up and brought back
320
00:16:59,332 --> 00:17:00,846
to the detachment.
321
00:17:01,568 --> 00:17:04,770
And although he's a little bit
older than twenty-five,
322
00:17:04,804 --> 00:17:06,438
he did fit that physical description
323
00:17:06,472 --> 00:17:08,774
that Larry in the taxicab gave us.
324
00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:13,545
Benoit's here. Found him
sleeping in his car.
325
00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:14,780
Did he say anything?
326
00:17:14,814 --> 00:17:17,182
Just that he's looking for work.
327
00:17:17,217 --> 00:17:19,751
Spent his last couple
of bucks on a two-four.
328
00:17:19,786 --> 00:17:21,787
Broke and desperate.
That's never a good mix.
329
00:17:21,821 --> 00:17:23,288
What about the knife?
330
00:17:23,323 --> 00:17:25,557
Claims he lost it.
331
00:17:30,597 --> 00:17:32,431
When he was sobered up the next morning,
332
00:17:32,465 --> 00:17:34,933
I started to interview him.
333
00:17:36,836 --> 00:17:38,770
You know why we brought you here?
334
00:17:41,441 --> 00:17:43,141
Some fight.
335
00:17:43,176 --> 00:17:44,743
No, it wasn't just some fight.
336
00:17:45,372 --> 00:17:47,373
You were threatening
people with a knife.
337
00:17:49,662 --> 00:17:51,783
Where's that knife, Luc?
338
00:17:51,818 --> 00:17:55,354
Je sais pas.
339
00:17:55,388 --> 00:17:58,957
I lost it.
340
00:17:58,992 --> 00:18:00,993
You lost it.
341
00:18:01,027 --> 00:18:02,160
What about Lucie?
342
00:18:02,195 --> 00:18:03,953
Who?
343
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,032
Lucie Turmel.
344
00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:09,968
Come on. You remember Lucie.
She's a nice girl,
345
00:18:10,003 --> 00:18:12,004
pretty, Quebecois, just like you.
346
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,208
She was driving a cab
the same night that you were
347
00:18:14,233 --> 00:18:15,717
running around threatening people
348
00:18:15,742 --> 00:18:18,610
with that knife you lost.
349
00:18:18,645 --> 00:18:21,013
Well, someone killed Lucie.
350
00:18:21,047 --> 00:18:23,115
They stabbed her to death with a knife.
351
00:18:23,149 --> 00:18:26,451
Ça pourrait être moi.
352
00:18:26,486 --> 00:18:28,787
What was that?
353
00:18:29,726 --> 00:18:31,853
I think I killed her.
354
00:18:35,762 --> 00:18:38,230
I did it.
355
00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:42,734
Just like that, this guy confessed.
356
00:18:42,769 --> 00:18:46,805
So we've got a person that was in Banff,
357
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,029
he had a knife and he admitted
358
00:18:50,054 --> 00:18:52,044
that he had killed Lucie Turmel,
359
00:18:52,078 --> 00:18:54,212
but couldn't recall any of the details.
360
00:18:54,247 --> 00:18:55,972
He thought he might have killed her.
361
00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:59,384
And then we got a call.
362
00:18:59,419 --> 00:19:02,988
This neighbor, in the general
vicinity, had found a knife
363
00:19:03,022 --> 00:19:06,091
and it was covered in blood.
364
00:19:09,529 --> 00:19:11,897
Homeowner found a knife
in their driveway.
365
00:19:11,931 --> 00:19:14,766
Fancy blade.
366
00:19:14,801 --> 00:19:18,236
Mahogany handle. Looks home-made.
367
00:19:21,441 --> 00:19:23,008
But there it was.
368
00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:25,410
A blood-covered hunting knife.
369
00:19:25,445 --> 00:19:27,846
This is the knife that
maybe killed Lucie Turmel.
370
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,515
Maybe the killer threw it
here after he ditched the car.
371
00:19:30,550 --> 00:19:33,218
Let's have forensics pick it up.
372
00:19:33,252 --> 00:19:37,589
Maybe they can pull a print
or some DNA off of it.
373
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,619
The blood is the most critical thing
374
00:19:41,644 --> 00:19:42,894
that we've got. We got that
375
00:19:42,929 --> 00:19:45,797
in the cab. We know that the guy
got out of the cab and ran away.
376
00:19:45,832 --> 00:19:50,102
And we've got a large
bloodied hunting knife.
377
00:19:50,136 --> 00:19:52,404
Hey, you want the bad news first?
378
00:19:52,438 --> 00:19:54,990
Don't tell me. All the blood
in the cab was Lucie's.
379
00:19:55,015 --> 00:19:57,376
No. We actually found
three spots in there
380
00:19:57,410 --> 00:19:59,911
with the killer's blood. It just wasn't
381
00:19:59,946 --> 00:20:02,080
- Luc Benoit's.
- What?
382
00:20:02,115 --> 00:20:04,383
Yeah, sorry. It's not
your guy. No match.
383
00:20:04,417 --> 00:20:05,884
Didn't make any sense.
384
00:20:05,918 --> 00:20:09,254
But you get one of
these guys, not in every
385
00:20:09,288 --> 00:20:12,224
homicide, but you get one or
two of them that will admit
386
00:20:12,258 --> 00:20:14,292
something, when in fact,
they're not responsible.
387
00:20:14,327 --> 00:20:17,496
No one else in the system
matches the blood either.
388
00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:20,565
Oh, some good news, though.
The knife that was recovered?
389
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,303
It is the murder weapon. It's
got Lucie's blood all over it.
390
00:20:25,338 --> 00:20:28,534
So we had the
knife that killed Lucie Turmel
391
00:20:28,653 --> 00:20:31,785
and the blood that was found
both on the steering wheel,
392
00:20:32,062 --> 00:20:33,912
on the uh, signal light indicator,
393
00:20:33,946 --> 00:20:36,448
were not Lucie Turmel's blood.
394
00:20:36,482 --> 00:20:38,150
They were obviously
our perpetrator's blood.
395
00:20:38,184 --> 00:20:41,086
So we find a match...
396
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:44,456
you find your killer. Simple as that.
397
00:20:48,194 --> 00:20:49,961
And now the work begins
398
00:20:49,996 --> 00:20:51,897
to figure out who left that blood.
399
00:20:53,309 --> 00:20:55,400
Banff survives on tourism
400
00:20:55,435 --> 00:20:58,470
and an unsolved murder
isn't good for business.
401
00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:03,742
Tourist season
was gearing up in the Banff area
402
00:21:03,776 --> 00:21:06,545
and there was pressure
there to solve the thing
403
00:21:06,579 --> 00:21:09,114
and solve it quickly.
404
00:21:09,148 --> 00:21:11,083
I want a list of
every male employee in town
405
00:21:11,117 --> 00:21:13,351
that matches the suspect's description.
406
00:21:13,386 --> 00:21:16,888
Every restaurant, hotel,
night club, whatever.
407
00:21:16,923 --> 00:21:19,191
- That's thousands of people.
- Just get the list and
408
00:21:19,225 --> 00:21:21,526
we'll whittle it down to just
those with a criminal record.
409
00:21:22,219 --> 00:21:26,422
This is a brutal crime.
I doubt it was his first.
410
00:21:26,530 --> 00:21:30,669
This guy is above and beyond
the normal bad guy.
411
00:21:30,703 --> 00:21:36,308
It was an investigator's
nightmare so to speak.
412
00:21:40,943 --> 00:21:43,878
A small town with a transient population
413
00:21:43,912 --> 00:21:47,151
where people are moving in
and out makes an investigation
414
00:21:47,231 --> 00:21:48,649
much more difficult
415
00:21:48,684 --> 00:21:52,220
in tracking people and locating people.
416
00:21:53,956 --> 00:21:57,592
It's been three months now and
we haven't caught the individual
417
00:21:57,626 --> 00:22:00,228
responsible for Lucie Turmel's death.
418
00:22:00,262 --> 00:22:06,033
So now we have to widen the
scope of our investigation.
419
00:22:06,068 --> 00:22:09,447
It is one of those...
needles in a haystack.
420
00:22:10,405 --> 00:22:12,240
What's this?
421
00:22:12,274 --> 00:22:15,685
Every white male temp worker
in Banff with a criminal record.
422
00:22:15,788 --> 00:22:17,011
All of this?
423
00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:19,881
Apparently, Banff is a little
more dangerous than we thought.
424
00:22:19,915 --> 00:22:22,083
Seventy percent of workers here
have criminal records.
425
00:22:22,117 --> 00:22:24,952
- National average? Ten percent.
- What?
426
00:22:24,987 --> 00:22:27,889
OK. Well, we need to trim this.
427
00:22:27,923 --> 00:22:29,557
I want you to pull hospital
records, see if you can find
428
00:22:29,591 --> 00:22:30,894
blood types for these people.
429
00:22:30,919 --> 00:22:32,860
Blood type doesn't match,
the DNA won't either.
430
00:22:32,895 --> 00:22:34,862
And most of them won't have
their blood type on file
431
00:22:34,897 --> 00:22:36,831
at the local hospital.
They're temp workers.
432
00:22:36,865 --> 00:22:38,299
Then we'll get blood samples
from the rest.
433
00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:41,068
And if they say no?
Can we pull a warrant?
434
00:22:41,103 --> 00:22:43,104
No such thing as a warrant for blood.
435
00:22:43,138 --> 00:22:45,273
They say no? We take a closer look.
436
00:22:45,307 --> 00:22:48,409
Alright.
437
00:22:48,443 --> 00:22:49,977
If you had a criminal record
438
00:22:50,012 --> 00:22:54,081
for dangerous driving or
for possession of marijuana,
439
00:22:54,116 --> 00:22:55,850
does that necessarily mean that
440
00:22:55,884 --> 00:22:57,985
you're gonna be a violent
criminal? And you're gonna be
441
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,520
killing people? No.
442
00:22:59,555 --> 00:23:02,623
People with violent crimes
or violent history
443
00:23:02,658 --> 00:23:06,861
are very interesting. So we have
to work very quickly
444
00:23:06,895 --> 00:23:09,764
to round these people up and
hopefully to get samples
445
00:23:09,798 --> 00:23:12,133
of uh, their DNA.
446
00:23:12,167 --> 00:23:14,869
You know, once you explain
the nature of the investigation
447
00:23:14,903 --> 00:23:18,806
and what we were doing,
most fellas cooperated.
448
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,541
"I knew her, but I'm not responsible.
449
00:23:20,576 --> 00:23:22,298
I'll give you any sample you want."
450
00:23:25,981 --> 00:23:29,650
So we're working our way through
all of these names and stuff.
451
00:23:29,685 --> 00:23:33,120
And at the end of the rainbow,
there's one guy
452
00:23:33,155 --> 00:23:36,468
with that unique DNA that we want.
453
00:23:42,311 --> 00:23:44,332
These guys are the last
of the blood tests.
454
00:23:44,366 --> 00:23:45,900
- Then we're done with the list?
- Uh huh.
455
00:23:45,934 --> 00:23:47,468
That's it. Nothing so far.
456
00:23:47,502 --> 00:23:48,970
Nothing matches the blood
we found in the cab.
457
00:23:49,004 --> 00:23:51,606
No. Looks like we hit a dead end.
458
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,140
All of those samples
459
00:23:53,175 --> 00:23:55,943
that were sent to the lab
came back negative.
460
00:23:55,978 --> 00:23:59,146
Forget the list.
461
00:23:59,181 --> 00:24:02,283
I want to know where everyone
was that night. The whole town.
462
00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:04,385
Every tourist, every
citizen, every worker.
463
00:24:04,419 --> 00:24:08,289
I want everyone placed.
We need to find new suspects.
464
00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:10,791
Doug. Hundreds of people come in and out
465
00:24:10,826 --> 00:24:12,360
of Banff every day. Tourists.
466
00:24:12,394 --> 00:24:13,551
They could be all over the world.
467
00:24:15,911 --> 00:24:18,366
I'm gonna get the guest registry
from every hotel in town.
468
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,369
Track them down. We'll find out
where everyone was
469
00:24:21,403 --> 00:24:23,170
and if they saw or heard
anything strange.
470
00:24:23,205 --> 00:24:27,541
We find any new suspects,
we'll test their blood too.
471
00:24:27,576 --> 00:24:29,610
We had never done
this kind of thing before,
472
00:24:29,645 --> 00:24:31,679
but you don't wanna leave
any stone unturned.
473
00:24:31,713 --> 00:24:33,887
We need to go bigger.
474
00:24:33,967 --> 00:24:35,996
Something international.
475
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:42,323
Someone out there knows
what happened to Lucie Turmel.
476
00:24:44,326 --> 00:24:46,368
We need to bring the story to them.
477
00:24:47,217 --> 00:24:50,025
We have an enormous job ahead of us.
478
00:24:50,818 --> 00:24:53,567
Banff is a major tourist town in Canada.
479
00:24:53,602 --> 00:24:56,704
And people come and go left,
right and center.
480
00:24:56,738 --> 00:25:00,908
So we had to expand our investigation.
481
00:25:00,942 --> 00:25:04,779
Letters in various languages
were sent probably
482
00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:07,415
to fifty nations around the world.
483
00:25:07,449 --> 00:25:10,184
Anybody that actually stayed in Banff
484
00:25:10,218 --> 00:25:12,687
during that time when
Lucie lost her life,
485
00:25:12,721 --> 00:25:16,257
was contacted by a letter
from the Banff detachment.
486
00:25:16,291 --> 00:25:18,859
The RCMP has opened hundreds of files
487
00:25:18,894 --> 00:25:20,861
and sent questionnaires
to the thousands of people
488
00:25:20,896 --> 00:25:22,563
who were in Banff that night.
489
00:25:22,597 --> 00:25:26,000
We've had approximately
600 tips from across Canada,
490
00:25:26,034 --> 00:25:28,602
North America and even in France.
491
00:25:28,637 --> 00:25:30,805
This is where Lucie Turmel's
body was found.
492
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,708
We also did a massive media blitz.
493
00:25:33,742 --> 00:25:35,276
A reward is being offered
494
00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:38,779
to anyone who can help solve the murder.
495
00:25:38,814 --> 00:25:40,614
Somebody knows something,
496
00:25:40,649 --> 00:25:43,217
tell us what you recall.
497
00:25:43,251 --> 00:25:46,721
Public solves the crime.
498
00:25:46,755 --> 00:25:48,622
You gotta keep it in the papers,
you gotta keep it
499
00:25:48,657 --> 00:25:50,391
front and center in everybody's
mind till finally
500
00:25:50,425 --> 00:25:52,359
that person says
501
00:25:52,394 --> 00:25:55,429
"Ah, no, I should phone the
police and tell them about that."
502
00:25:55,464 --> 00:25:57,465
Please.
503
00:25:59,201 --> 00:26:02,236
I came in cause I saw this.
504
00:26:02,270 --> 00:26:03,637
Did you know Lucie?
505
00:26:03,672 --> 00:26:07,108
No. But I know this knife.
506
00:26:07,142 --> 00:26:08,642
You've seen it?
507
00:26:08,677 --> 00:26:10,753
It belongs to this guy
I used to party with.
508
00:26:10,975 --> 00:26:12,146
Ryan Love.
509
00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:14,615
He used to work at
the Banff Springs Hotel.
510
00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:18,953
In the end, the answer was in Banff.
511
00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:27,760
We caught a break.
512
00:26:28,248 --> 00:26:32,533
This lady saw this poster,
came forward and told us
513
00:26:32,668 --> 00:26:35,822
"I know a guy that had
a knife exactly like that."
514
00:26:35,856 --> 00:26:38,958
Now we're starting to link that knife
515
00:26:38,993 --> 00:26:43,096
to somebody that actually was
in Banff during that period.
516
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:46,599
Here we go. Here we go.
517
00:26:46,633 --> 00:26:50,694
Ryan Love. Worked at
the Banff Springs Hotel.
518
00:26:50,719 --> 00:26:51,986
No record?
519
00:26:52,011 --> 00:26:53,416
No, we would've had a blood sample.
520
00:26:53,991 --> 00:26:55,292
Did we speak with him?
521
00:26:55,509 --> 00:26:56,561
Never had a chance.
522
00:26:56,586 --> 00:26:58,753
His roommate said he left town
before the murder.
523
00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:02,281
OK, I want the time sheets
from the Banff Springs Hotel.
524
00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:05,236
Yeah, I saw those a second ago. Hang on.
525
00:27:05,418 --> 00:27:06,565
Here we go.
526
00:27:07,033 --> 00:27:09,434
Ryan Love.
527
00:27:10,113 --> 00:27:12,681
Yeah. It's got his address
in Duncan, BC.
528
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:24,085
Ryan Love worked in Banff,
529
00:27:24,141 --> 00:27:27,076
fit the age, fit the
physical description.
530
00:27:27,111 --> 00:27:30,046
He had a knife very similar
to the murder weapon.
531
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,216
So he was a person of interest.
532
00:27:38,289 --> 00:27:39,622
Can I help you?
533
00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:42,859
Doug Morrison, RCMP Staff Sergeant.
534
00:27:42,893 --> 00:27:44,661
Is there something wrong?
535
00:27:44,695 --> 00:27:46,729
I'm looking for Ryan Love.
536
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,774
I'm sorry, what's this about?
537
00:27:49,855 --> 00:27:52,144
I'd just like to have
a few words with your son, Sir.
538
00:27:52,326 --> 00:27:54,137
About what?
539
00:27:54,171 --> 00:27:58,408
It's all right, Dad.
I'm sure it's nothing.
540
00:27:58,442 --> 00:28:00,510
May I come in?
541
00:28:01,512 --> 00:28:04,314
Ryan Love? He's
back home living with his parents.
542
00:28:04,497 --> 00:28:09,377
Probably had maybe a
half an hour at length talk
543
00:28:09,402 --> 00:28:12,571
and I said Ryan's name has
surfaced in our investigation
544
00:28:13,015 --> 00:28:16,125
and we would like Ryan's cooperation.
545
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,161
You recognize this?
546
00:28:18,195 --> 00:28:20,776
Sure. That's my knife.
547
00:28:21,324 --> 00:28:23,032
You sure?
548
00:28:23,067 --> 00:28:24,267
I'm positive.
549
00:28:24,491 --> 00:28:25,658
You see that mark right there?
550
00:28:26,643 --> 00:28:29,038
That's from jumping a car battery.
551
00:28:29,493 --> 00:28:30,660
What happened there?
552
00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:32,785
Oh, this?
553
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,061
I don't even remember.
554
00:28:37,648 --> 00:28:39,515
Where'd you find my knife?
555
00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:40,950
Banff.
556
00:28:40,985 --> 00:28:43,620
It was used to murder someone.
557
00:28:43,654 --> 00:28:45,021
Oh, my God!
558
00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:48,411
Huh. I didn't know what happened to it.
559
00:28:49,125 --> 00:28:51,361
I tell you it was used
to murder someone and...
560
00:28:51,395 --> 00:28:54,330
and all you can say is that you
don't know what happened to it?
561
00:28:54,365 --> 00:28:56,966
Look, Detective, he already
told you he doesn't know.
562
00:28:57,001 --> 00:28:59,202
Obviously, someone took it.
563
00:28:59,236 --> 00:29:01,304
Why obviously?
564
00:29:01,338 --> 00:29:03,606
Because it means too much to me.
565
00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:05,975
You see, my grandfather bought
it for me when I was fourteen.
566
00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:09,479
Over down in Mexico, remember?
567
00:29:09,513 --> 00:29:14,384
I wouldn't just give it away.
It was stolen. In Banff.
568
00:29:14,855 --> 00:29:17,290
Yeah, that knife was stolen from me
569
00:29:17,315 --> 00:29:18,721
at a party blah blah blah.
570
00:29:18,756 --> 00:29:20,957
Or it went missing or
whatever the case might be.
571
00:29:20,991 --> 00:29:23,094
And that was his way of diffusing
572
00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:25,028
"well, I don't have
the knife anymore so..."
573
00:29:25,062 --> 00:29:27,196
Um, that'd be that.
574
00:29:30,257 --> 00:29:32,368
When did you leave Banff?
575
00:29:32,403 --> 00:29:36,906
Uh, early May, last year.
576
00:29:36,941 --> 00:29:39,575
So you were still there May 17th.
577
00:29:40,236 --> 00:29:42,671
Wasn't that Grandma's birthday?
578
00:29:42,752 --> 00:29:44,213
Yeah, I was on a plane
579
00:29:44,248 --> 00:29:47,932
on the way to Thunder Bay,
Ontario for a family reunion.
580
00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:49,519
That's right, I remember.
581
00:29:49,553 --> 00:29:52,755
We bought him a plane ticket
and sent him $100
582
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:54,449
to take a cab to the airport.
583
00:29:54,576 --> 00:29:56,125
Right. Yeah.
584
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:58,466
Then I went back to Banff,
585
00:29:58,501 --> 00:30:02,938
stayed a few more days and uh,
came home for good.
586
00:30:02,972 --> 00:30:07,042
And what time did you leave
Banff on May 17th?
587
00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:09,812
I don't know.
588
00:30:10,114 --> 00:30:13,014
Early, I guess. It was a long time ago.
589
00:30:13,049 --> 00:30:14,950
So you were there the night before.
590
00:30:17,887 --> 00:30:21,022
This feels like it's getting
into tricky lawyer questions.
591
00:30:21,057 --> 00:30:22,857
I'm sorry, Detective.
592
00:30:22,892 --> 00:30:24,626
I think we'd like to speak to our lawyer
593
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:25,827
before we take this any further.
594
00:30:25,861 --> 00:30:27,796
I didn't murder anyone.
595
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:30,198
I just need a quick sample of your blood
596
00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:31,929
and I will be on my way.
597
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,341
It's very simple. I mean,
598
00:30:33,421 --> 00:30:36,037
just provide us with a sample.
We'll take the sample.
599
00:30:36,072 --> 00:30:38,073
We'll go away. We'll get it analyzed.
600
00:30:38,107 --> 00:30:40,508
And if he's not responsible,
he'll never see us again.
601
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,212
Mmmm, no.
602
00:30:45,705 --> 00:30:47,039
I don't think so.
603
00:30:49,841 --> 00:30:51,158
We were stymied.
604
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:55,090
Basically, he thought
605
00:30:55,124 --> 00:30:58,541
"Well, if I never provide a
sample, they'll never catch me."
606
00:31:06,582 --> 00:31:10,705
Back then, there was
no mechanism in Canadian law
607
00:31:10,740 --> 00:31:15,210
that would allow us to get
body fluids from the suspect.
608
00:31:16,216 --> 00:31:18,546
We couldn't go to the courts and say
609
00:31:18,581 --> 00:31:20,448
"This is all the evidence that we have.
610
00:31:20,483 --> 00:31:22,717
Would you sign a search
warrant so that we can go back
611
00:31:22,752 --> 00:31:27,889
and get these samples physically
from Ryan Jason Love?"
612
00:31:28,312 --> 00:31:31,026
And we definitely
can't get a warrant for his DNA?
613
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:34,329
Nope. There is no
warrant system in place for DNA.
614
00:31:34,363 --> 00:31:38,266
Need someone to get it
off him voluntarily.
615
00:31:38,301 --> 00:31:39,801
So what are we gonna do?
616
00:31:39,835 --> 00:31:43,038
We need someone to go undercover.
617
00:31:44,669 --> 00:31:47,876
We decided to go
ahead with an undercover operation.
618
00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:51,483
So I put in a call to
my good friend, Al Haslett.
619
00:31:52,281 --> 00:31:55,256
Al's probably one of the best
policemen I ever met.
620
00:31:55,653 --> 00:31:59,054
He could walk into a bar
and within ten minutes,
621
00:31:59,088 --> 00:32:01,398
be playing pool with the bad guy that
622
00:32:01,423 --> 00:32:03,148
we'd all been trying to get close to.
623
00:32:06,651 --> 00:32:10,699
Ryan Love. Yeah, I know him.
Hangs with the guys
624
00:32:10,733 --> 00:32:13,343
we've been watching.
A bunch of local low-lifes.
625
00:32:13,368 --> 00:32:14,969
We got eyes on the whole crew.
626
00:32:15,004 --> 00:32:18,406
I bet if we open the door for
him, he'll just jump right in.
627
00:32:18,441 --> 00:32:19,641
That's OK with you?
628
00:32:19,675 --> 00:32:22,377
Whatever gets the bad guys. Yeah?
629
00:32:22,411 --> 00:32:24,446
All right! See ya.
630
00:32:26,816 --> 00:32:30,285
We needed to get
a DNA sample from Ryan Jason Love.
631
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,988
And that was our goal in
that undercover operation.
632
00:32:34,023 --> 00:32:37,425
The plan was pretty simple.
633
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:40,495
On the pretext that
our undercover operator was
634
00:32:40,529 --> 00:32:46,601
a small-time crook, we would
have Ryan Jason Love participate
635
00:32:46,635 --> 00:32:50,405
in these petty crimes that
we're gonna rob a fishboat.
636
00:32:50,439 --> 00:32:53,408
Love would be given some menial task
637
00:32:53,442 --> 00:32:56,444
so we could get close to him.
638
00:32:56,479 --> 00:32:58,480
This is the pier?
639
00:33:03,365 --> 00:33:04,719
Yeah.
640
00:33:06,934 --> 00:33:08,968
All you gotta do is keep a lookout.
641
00:33:09,003 --> 00:33:11,805
You see that boat coming,
you flash the signal.
642
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,074
And when the boat gets there?
643
00:33:14,108 --> 00:33:16,242
And the rest of us roll up,
644
00:33:16,277 --> 00:33:20,014
we unload the smokes, then
we go make some money.
645
00:33:24,285 --> 00:33:26,619
Who's that? I didn't...
646
00:33:26,654 --> 00:33:30,156
Relax. I just ordered some
room service, that's all.
647
00:33:30,191 --> 00:33:31,758
But I'm not hungry.
648
00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:37,697
Who said anything about food?
649
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,931
We didn't have a mechanism to
get body fluids from an accused.
650
00:33:49,965 --> 00:33:52,600
So we set up an undercover operation
651
00:33:52,634 --> 00:33:55,383
where Ryan Jason Love would unknowingly
652
00:33:55,408 --> 00:33:58,210
provide us with a DNA sample
that we could match
653
00:33:58,244 --> 00:34:01,013
with the blood in the taxi
654
00:34:01,047 --> 00:34:02,881
that was driven by Lucie Turmel.
655
00:34:08,052 --> 00:34:11,418
You have this one
cowlick that I can't get down.
656
00:34:11,481 --> 00:34:14,026
Yeah. Yeah, I know.
657
00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:17,429
No matter what I do, it just...
sticks up like that.
658
00:34:17,463 --> 00:34:20,699
Come on man, that's easy fix.
659
00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:23,836
Your dad will teach you.
660
00:34:23,870 --> 00:34:28,009
We're gonna find your natural part.
661
00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:30,242
- Oh!
- Ow man!
662
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,881
See? No need to worry about it now.
663
00:34:35,915 --> 00:34:40,686
All right. You got me.
664
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,589
OK! We got an early morning. Call it.
665
00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,424
Ladies?
666
00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:47,392
Wait, I thought we were gonna...
667
00:34:47,427 --> 00:34:50,696
Oh, you thought... you thought
these girls were for you?
668
00:34:52,002 --> 00:34:54,099
Sorry, man, I got my own thing going on.
669
00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:57,736
Besides, you gotta get
your sleep, huh? Let's go.
670
00:35:02,584 --> 00:35:04,455
The girls were with us.
671
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,185
They were undercover RCMP officers.
672
00:35:08,327 --> 00:35:10,582
The pulled hair was very clever,
673
00:35:10,617 --> 00:35:15,621
but we were uncertain that that
evidence would hold up in court.
674
00:35:16,580 --> 00:35:20,092
The act of reaching across
and physically removing hair
675
00:35:20,126 --> 00:35:23,262
from a person's head,
the courts may look on that
676
00:35:23,296 --> 00:35:25,343
as an infringement on
his constitutional rights
677
00:35:25,447 --> 00:35:28,282
and that evidence may get
kicked out and not allowed
678
00:35:28,316 --> 00:35:31,264
as evidence proper in his trial.
679
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:34,755
We wanted to make sure that
if that sample got kicked out,
680
00:35:34,789 --> 00:35:36,719
then we had another
sample to back it up.
681
00:35:38,156 --> 00:35:41,562
So the day before, we stripped
down his motel room...
682
00:35:41,596 --> 00:35:45,532
and put in pornography magazines.
683
00:35:45,567 --> 00:35:50,371
We had switched all the sheets,
put brand new sheets on.
684
00:35:52,374 --> 00:35:55,576
We're trying to get him
sexually excited so that
685
00:35:55,610 --> 00:35:57,544
when the girls then leave...
686
00:35:57,579 --> 00:35:59,513
Wait, I thought we were gonna...
687
00:35:59,547 --> 00:36:02,416
He sexually relieves himself...
688
00:36:04,619 --> 00:36:07,388
onto the sheets that we put on the beds.
689
00:36:07,422 --> 00:36:10,724
That's uh, not exactly what happened.
690
00:36:12,299 --> 00:36:15,672
Next morning, we went back into
the room and checked the sheets.
691
00:36:15,696 --> 00:36:16,760
No hair.
692
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:20,934
No stains on the sheets.
693
00:36:20,969 --> 00:36:24,204
Damn it. Hang on a second.
694
00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:33,348
Is that what I think it is?
695
00:36:37,619 --> 00:36:39,420
We found nothing, other than
696
00:36:39,454 --> 00:36:43,190
the tissue, which was the most
important item that we found.
697
00:36:45,093 --> 00:36:48,028
We get the samples of the mucous
and the hair in analyze
698
00:36:49,417 --> 00:36:53,534
and we knew if we matched
his DNA, we had our killer.
699
00:36:57,005 --> 00:36:58,739
We got him!
700
00:36:58,773 --> 00:37:01,953
Ryan Jason Love's DNA sample matched
701
00:37:01,978 --> 00:37:06,046
the DNA sample that we got
out of Lucie Turmel's cab.
702
00:37:06,081 --> 00:37:08,348
We had found our man.
703
00:37:11,674 --> 00:37:15,255
Nigel Paterson and myself,
we go back out to Duncan
704
00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:18,759
to make the arrest of Ryan Jason Love.
705
00:37:18,793 --> 00:37:21,195
You know, no matter what
we said to him that we have
706
00:37:21,229 --> 00:37:23,297
your samples of your DNA
and stuff like that
707
00:37:23,331 --> 00:37:25,332
and it's matched the blood
in the cab and stuff,
708
00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:27,434
so we know you're
the person responsible,
709
00:37:27,469 --> 00:37:31,038
it was just kinda like pfff...
right over top of his head.
710
00:37:45,787 --> 00:37:48,455
Dozens of RCMP investigators have waited
711
00:37:48,490 --> 00:37:50,849
a long time for this day to come.
712
00:37:51,008 --> 00:37:54,428
It took two-and-a-half years,
but police finally arrested
713
00:37:54,462 --> 00:37:57,948
twenty-one-year-old Ryan Love
in Duncan, British Columbia.
714
00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:00,526
They've interviewed more
than five thousand people
715
00:38:00,551 --> 00:38:02,169
in an effort to make an arrest.
716
00:38:02,203 --> 00:38:05,152
Today, they arrived at
the airport with the man,
717
00:38:05,177 --> 00:38:07,341
they believe, killed Lucie Turmel.
718
00:38:07,375 --> 00:38:09,843
Love smirked throughout the arrest.
719
00:38:09,878 --> 00:38:13,347
I think he still felt that,
with the help of his lawyer,
720
00:38:13,381 --> 00:38:17,050
he was going to be able
to escape the grasps of prison.
721
00:38:19,086 --> 00:38:21,209
Last May, a preliminary hearing found
722
00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:24,591
there was enough evidence
to put Love on trial...
723
00:38:24,626 --> 00:38:26,960
The Crown
and Defence argued over the way
724
00:38:26,995 --> 00:38:31,198
undercover policemen collected
samples of Ryan Love's hair
725
00:38:31,232 --> 00:38:35,002
and mucous. Both samples
were tested and linked Love
726
00:38:35,036 --> 00:38:38,272
to the crime scene. The hair
was plucked from Love's head
727
00:38:38,306 --> 00:38:40,707
after he complained of
having a cowlick....
728
00:38:40,742 --> 00:38:44,011
In court Love's lawyer insisted
police had no legal right
729
00:38:44,045 --> 00:38:48,415
to take the sample and argued his
client's rights were violated.
730
00:38:49,751 --> 00:38:53,420
In the end,
the DNA evidence was admitted.
731
00:38:55,235 --> 00:38:57,156
Love lost.
732
00:38:57,616 --> 00:39:01,962
He was given a life sentence
with no possibility for parole
733
00:39:01,996 --> 00:39:04,932
until after twenty years.
734
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,402
Although we are elated,
735
00:39:08,436 --> 00:39:12,573
it's hard to fathom
that someone would uh,
736
00:39:12,607 --> 00:39:15,108
exhibit that much rage.
737
00:39:15,143 --> 00:39:18,912
For what? Money?
738
00:39:19,347 --> 00:39:21,170
Why'd you do it?
739
00:39:22,842 --> 00:39:24,685
I needed cash.
740
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,455
To get to the family reunion.
741
00:39:28,489 --> 00:39:32,926
You had money. Your
parents gave you money.
742
00:39:32,961 --> 00:39:36,430
I spent it all.
743
00:39:36,464 --> 00:39:39,533
On booze and drugs.
744
00:39:39,567 --> 00:39:43,270
So you... killed an innocent girl,
745
00:39:43,304 --> 00:39:47,140
a girl who had her whole
life ahead of her...
746
00:39:48,576 --> 00:39:52,145
for a hundred bucks?
747
00:39:54,449 --> 00:39:58,619
My parents would've been so
pissed if I missed that plane.
748
00:40:20,508 --> 00:40:23,844
You never get
over an incident like that.
749
00:40:23,878 --> 00:40:27,882
It uh, basically stays with you
for the rest of your life.
750
00:40:36,491 --> 00:40:40,928
It was sad for uh, the
parents, obviously,
751
00:40:40,962 --> 00:40:44,264
her friends... even the townfolk.
752
00:40:44,299 --> 00:40:48,168
It represents one of
the more intensive cases
753
00:40:48,202 --> 00:40:50,737
certainly in Alberta history
I would say.
754
00:40:50,772 --> 00:40:53,273
If it weren't for the assistance
that we received
755
00:40:53,308 --> 00:40:56,143
from police forces and
other RCMP detachments
756
00:40:56,177 --> 00:40:58,745
in every province and
territory in the country,
757
00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:02,783
we wouldn't have been able to
conduct a successful investigation.
758
00:41:02,817 --> 00:41:06,453
We are satisfied,
but it's very hard too.
759
00:41:06,487 --> 00:41:12,250
Something... somebody has killed
760
00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:16,096
our daughter and it's hard.
761
00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:18,465
The Turmels were very appreciative.
762
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:26,707
Yeah. Did our job.
763
00:41:31,012 --> 00:41:34,181
The funeral was huge.
I think everybody that worked
764
00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:37,918
in the same industries
as Lucie and Jeff were there.
765
00:41:40,755 --> 00:41:44,458
Most of the people that were
associated at all with Lucie
766
00:41:44,492 --> 00:41:46,893
loved the girl.
767
00:41:46,928 --> 00:41:48,695
She was a... she was a...
768
00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:51,698
from all indications,
just a neat, a neat kid.
769
00:41:52,322 --> 00:41:58,584
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