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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,579 --> 00:00:07,024 The Louise Ellis case was the most complex, 2 00:00:07,143 --> 00:00:10,078 most difficult case that I ever investigated. 3 00:00:15,418 --> 00:00:17,920 It was hot. 4 00:00:17,954 --> 00:00:19,855 Something you never want to experience. 5 00:00:36,573 --> 00:00:38,207 Hello? 6 00:00:38,241 --> 00:00:40,542 I found her car. 7 00:00:40,577 --> 00:00:44,713 It's parked by the side of the road, the river road, Wakefield. 8 00:00:44,747 --> 00:00:48,050 I'll be right there. I'm calling the police. 9 00:00:58,661 --> 00:01:01,330 Where is Louise Ellis? 10 00:01:01,364 --> 00:01:03,832 A huge puzzle right from the start. 11 00:01:03,867 --> 00:01:05,434 Every day I was wondering 12 00:01:05,468 --> 00:01:07,736 "what else can we do? What have we done wrong?" 13 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:10,739 Any sign of her? 14 00:01:12,408 --> 00:01:14,643 How did the vehicle get here? 15 00:01:14,677 --> 00:01:17,880 Did somebody pick her up and drive her away? 16 00:01:17,914 --> 00:01:19,081 Where the hell is she? 17 00:01:19,115 --> 00:01:20,549 What's going on? 18 00:01:20,583 --> 00:01:23,852 Brett! Brett! Just wait for the police. 19 00:01:25,154 --> 00:01:27,189 It was something that I was obsessed about 20 00:01:27,223 --> 00:01:30,292 and it's never going to leave my memory and my mind. 21 00:01:38,918 --> 00:01:43,668 - Sync and corrections by ByDem - - www.addic7ed.com - 22 00:01:48,098 --> 00:01:50,496 When we started this case in 1995, 23 00:01:50,496 --> 00:01:53,724 my staff sergeant dropped a missing person's report 24 00:01:53,724 --> 00:01:54,896 on my desk and all he said was, 25 00:01:54,896 --> 00:01:56,192 "Here, Pulley, have a look at this." 26 00:01:59,263 --> 00:02:01,831 - Thanks for coming in. - What have we got? 27 00:02:01,866 --> 00:02:04,868 Louise Ellis, local journalist, 28 00:02:04,902 --> 00:02:06,903 came up from Ottawa to visit some friends, 29 00:02:06,937 --> 00:02:10,673 never showed. Her husband called it in. 30 00:02:10,708 --> 00:02:12,508 He's here, searching the woods. 31 00:02:12,543 --> 00:02:14,244 Mr. Morgan, I'm Detective Pulfer. 32 00:02:14,278 --> 00:02:17,080 This is Detective Savage. 33 00:02:17,114 --> 00:02:19,133 You really shouldn't be searching the woods like that, Sir. 34 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:20,150 You could be contaminating a scene. 35 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:22,418 Well, my wife's gone missing. 36 00:02:22,453 --> 00:02:24,988 She's gotta be around here somewhere. 37 00:02:25,022 --> 00:02:26,256 All her stuff's still in the car. 38 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:27,790 When's the last time you saw her? 39 00:02:27,825 --> 00:02:30,326 Saturday. She's supposed to be visiting a friend. 40 00:02:30,361 --> 00:02:31,861 What friend? 41 00:02:31,896 --> 00:02:34,530 John Maisonneuve, her ex-boyfriend actually. 42 00:02:34,565 --> 00:02:37,066 His daughter was having a birthday party. 43 00:02:37,101 --> 00:02:39,769 He's got a cottage around here. He called looking for her. 44 00:02:39,803 --> 00:02:41,537 She never showed. 45 00:02:41,572 --> 00:02:43,673 All I can figure is she might have 46 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:45,875 pulled in here, stopped, gone to the bathroom, 47 00:02:45,910 --> 00:02:47,777 and got lost or something. 48 00:02:47,811 --> 00:02:50,713 She's missing and I'll do everything I can 49 00:02:50,748 --> 00:02:53,283 to help find her. 50 00:02:53,317 --> 00:02:56,953 Brett Morgan was quite upset. Distraught almost. 51 00:02:56,987 --> 00:02:59,489 Basically, started a little mini search to see 52 00:02:59,523 --> 00:03:01,363 "How can I help out here?" 53 00:03:01,363 --> 00:03:03,218 Mr. Morgan, please step this way with me. 54 00:03:03,243 --> 00:03:04,985 I'd like to ask you a few more questions. 55 00:03:07,264 --> 00:03:09,465 We find this vehicle abandoned. 56 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:10,900 Usually if you see a car abandoned, 57 00:03:10,935 --> 00:03:13,036 it's run out of gas or it's broken down. 58 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,974 But the car did start; there was lots of gas in it, 59 00:03:18,008 --> 00:03:20,443 and it was working top form. 60 00:03:20,477 --> 00:03:23,179 There were some pajamas, a gift for a friend, 61 00:03:23,213 --> 00:03:25,081 and there was a bag with some personal belongings. 62 00:03:25,115 --> 00:03:26,983 And her wallet was in there. 63 00:03:27,017 --> 00:03:28,284 This was quite bothersome to us. 64 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:31,421 It struck home something is wrong here. 65 00:03:33,624 --> 00:03:36,426 Let's get a full search team in here ASAP, huh? 66 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:39,796 Mr. Morgan, where did you say your wife's ex lived? 67 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:41,965 Down this road right on 4. 68 00:03:41,999 --> 00:03:43,466 I know where it is. 69 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:46,135 Get a squad car over there right away. 70 00:03:48,672 --> 00:03:50,440 How did the vehicle get here? 71 00:03:50,474 --> 00:03:53,876 Where is Louise Ellis? Did she visit her ex? 72 00:03:53,911 --> 00:03:56,980 What's going on here? 73 00:03:59,149 --> 00:04:01,317 When was the last time you spoke with Louise? 74 00:04:01,352 --> 00:04:04,320 I guess that would have been Thursday night. 75 00:04:04,355 --> 00:04:07,423 I called her and invited her to the party. 76 00:04:07,458 --> 00:04:10,760 My daughter, she turned eleven. 77 00:04:10,794 --> 00:04:13,429 Even after the breakup, she was still close with Louise. 78 00:04:13,464 --> 00:04:15,965 Your daughter with Louise? 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,668 No, an earlier marriage. 80 00:04:18,702 --> 00:04:21,904 But Louise and I were together five years. 81 00:04:21,939 --> 00:04:24,240 She was quite close with my daughter. 82 00:04:24,274 --> 00:04:26,342 Did she seem upset, uh, strange? 83 00:04:26,377 --> 00:04:27,844 Was anything on her mind? 84 00:04:27,878 --> 00:04:31,781 Well, she seemed fine. 85 00:04:31,815 --> 00:04:33,549 She was happy to be invited to the party, 86 00:04:33,584 --> 00:04:36,919 but it was typical Louise, very noncommittal. 87 00:04:36,954 --> 00:04:38,721 She said she probably wouldn't come to the party 88 00:04:38,756 --> 00:04:42,859 but that she'd call or she'd let me know if things changed. 89 00:04:42,893 --> 00:04:46,696 We only spoke for just a few minutes. 90 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:48,731 Any idea where she might be? 91 00:04:48,766 --> 00:04:51,000 I really wasn't expecting her. 92 00:04:51,035 --> 00:04:54,470 You know, we found a present in Louise's car for your daughter. 93 00:04:54,505 --> 00:04:57,006 Maybe she was planning on surprising us 94 00:04:57,041 --> 00:04:59,008 at the last minute. 95 00:04:59,043 --> 00:05:01,411 Well, if you weren't expecting her, 96 00:05:01,445 --> 00:05:02,845 why'd you call her house looking for her? 97 00:05:05,115 --> 00:05:09,485 I, um, well, I was just checking in. 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,689 It's not like Louise to not call for my daughter's birthday. 99 00:05:13,724 --> 00:05:20,263 To not come is one thing. Not call, that's different. 100 00:05:21,532 --> 00:05:23,171 We viewed John Maisonneuve definitely 101 00:05:23,171 --> 00:05:25,767 as a person of interest because Louise was supposed 102 00:05:25,767 --> 00:05:28,722 to go and visit him. He claimed that the meeting was 103 00:05:28,722 --> 00:05:31,741 rather noncommittal. But yet in her vehicle, we found 104 00:05:31,775 --> 00:05:35,044 her overnight bag; we found a gift for his daughter, 105 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:37,613 and pajamas and a bottle of wine. 106 00:05:37,648 --> 00:05:40,516 So it was a red flag for us. 107 00:05:40,551 --> 00:05:43,286 Oh, God. I hope she's OK. 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,955 I've known Louise for years. 109 00:05:45,989 --> 00:05:48,758 How did you end up finding her car? 110 00:05:48,792 --> 00:05:53,963 I noticed it, um, Saturday, I think. 111 00:05:56,433 --> 00:05:58,768 I remember thinking it looked like Louise's car, 112 00:05:58,802 --> 00:06:01,904 but I didn't think anything of it, you know, 113 00:06:01,939 --> 00:06:04,807 until Brett called. Then I drove right over to check the plates. 114 00:06:04,842 --> 00:06:07,677 Did you and Louise have plans? 115 00:06:07,711 --> 00:06:10,313 I invited her over but she didn't commit. 116 00:06:10,347 --> 00:06:12,615 She said, if she goes to the birthday party, 117 00:06:12,649 --> 00:06:16,419 she might drop by on her way home, but that was it. 118 00:06:16,453 --> 00:06:18,354 What about Brett Morgan? 119 00:06:18,388 --> 00:06:21,791 She loved him. He loved her. 120 00:06:21,825 --> 00:06:23,493 John Maisonneuve? 121 00:06:23,527 --> 00:06:26,829 He seemed fine. He liked seeing Louise from time to time 122 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:28,965 and he seemed all right with Brett. 123 00:06:28,999 --> 00:06:30,950 Thank you. 124 00:06:31,897 --> 00:06:33,009 Brenda Missen told us 125 00:06:33,009 --> 00:06:34,715 a lot of things about Louise's life. 126 00:06:35,005 --> 00:06:38,174 Brenda knew her as a very lovely person to be with 127 00:06:38,208 --> 00:06:41,611 and a good friend. Brenda was worried. 128 00:06:41,645 --> 00:06:43,913 Forty-six-year-old Louise Elli, 129 00:06:43,947 --> 00:06:46,682 a freelance writer, disappeared Saturday. 130 00:06:46,717 --> 00:06:50,686 While police concentrated their efforts on the Gatineau River, 131 00:06:50,721 --> 00:06:54,123 about thirty friends joined the missing woman's family 132 00:06:54,158 --> 00:06:58,060 in the ground search of the area near where the car was found. 133 00:06:58,095 --> 00:07:00,363 I just try to keep feeling very hopeful 134 00:07:00,397 --> 00:07:01,998 that she is all right somewhere. 135 00:07:02,032 --> 00:07:04,667 Friends have also put up posters. 136 00:07:04,701 --> 00:07:08,070 Anyone with information should call the Ottawa police. 137 00:07:08,105 --> 00:07:11,374 Volunteers, friends of Louise, 138 00:07:11,408 --> 00:07:14,510 they scoured bushes, rivers, roadways. 139 00:07:14,545 --> 00:07:17,947 Nothing of interest was found for us. 140 00:07:17,981 --> 00:07:21,050 Detective Pulfer, I'm Allen Ellis. 141 00:07:21,084 --> 00:07:22,618 Louise's father. 142 00:07:22,653 --> 00:07:24,687 I'm sorry, Mr. Ellis. You must be going through 143 00:07:24,721 --> 00:07:26,289 a very difficult time. 144 00:07:26,323 --> 00:07:29,959 We'll find her. Have you learned anything new? 145 00:07:29,993 --> 00:07:32,862 We're still assessing the situation, sir. 146 00:07:32,896 --> 00:07:34,764 Please call me Allen. 147 00:07:34,798 --> 00:07:39,068 I brought some photos. I thought it might help you. 148 00:07:39,102 --> 00:07:40,903 Did she have any enemies? 149 00:07:40,938 --> 00:07:42,705 Any reason she might want to run away? 150 00:07:42,739 --> 00:07:44,073 Oh, she was happy! 151 00:07:44,107 --> 00:07:47,643 I'm as shocked as anyone at all this. 152 00:07:47,678 --> 00:07:50,713 Any other problems, ex-boyfriends, money issues? 153 00:07:50,747 --> 00:07:52,415 No, nothing. 154 00:07:52,449 --> 00:07:55,585 Well, all right, Allen. We'll, uh, we'll continue doing 155 00:07:55,619 --> 00:07:57,086 what we can to find her then. 156 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,324 Thank you. I'm here to help. As you need. 157 00:08:01,358 --> 00:08:03,059 If you'll excuse me a moment? 158 00:08:03,093 --> 00:08:04,429 Yes, of course. 159 00:08:04,429 --> 00:08:05,931 Allen was very distraught over the fact 160 00:08:05,931 --> 00:08:09,232 that Louise was missing. He told us "Whatever I can do to help you out, 161 00:08:09,266 --> 00:08:11,601 I will do that for you cause I want to find Louise, 162 00:08:11,635 --> 00:08:13,936 because I love my daughter." 163 00:08:13,971 --> 00:08:17,106 You got anything new? 164 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:20,676 Nothing, other than the husband's fresh tracks 165 00:08:20,711 --> 00:08:22,678 when he was looking around. 166 00:08:22,713 --> 00:08:24,614 If she got out of the car and she didn't go in the woods, 167 00:08:24,648 --> 00:08:26,749 then she stayed on the road. So she could have got 168 00:08:26,783 --> 00:08:29,418 into another car or, uh, of course, 169 00:08:29,453 --> 00:08:31,754 somebody else could have parked this vehicle here. 170 00:08:31,788 --> 00:08:36,092 Let's get her photo out to the media, huh? 171 00:08:36,126 --> 00:08:38,761 At this point, she could be anywhere. 172 00:08:38,795 --> 00:08:41,063 What happened to Louise? 173 00:08:41,098 --> 00:08:43,399 Did Louise just decide to run away from her life 174 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:45,835 as she knew it? Did she go and visit John Maisonneuve? 175 00:08:45,869 --> 00:08:48,170 Did something happen? The fact that nothing was found 176 00:08:48,205 --> 00:08:49,805 was a huge puzzle. 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,095 We searched the river; we searched the road; 178 00:09:00,095 --> 00:09:01,282 we searched the bush. 179 00:09:02,372 --> 00:09:04,307 I thought "Is she in the water somewhere?" 180 00:09:04,341 --> 00:09:07,944 Like I was... obsessed. 181 00:09:08,792 --> 00:09:10,893 They called off the ground search. 182 00:09:10,927 --> 00:09:13,529 They found no signs of Louise anywhere. 183 00:09:13,563 --> 00:09:15,364 How's the family doing? 184 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:17,733 Well, father and husband are taking it pretty hard. 185 00:09:17,768 --> 00:09:20,169 They're gonna continue searching. 186 00:09:20,203 --> 00:09:21,971 Let's do this. 187 00:09:22,005 --> 00:09:24,507 OK. So we got Louise Ellis, 188 00:09:24,541 --> 00:09:27,009 forty-six-year-old freelance writer. 189 00:09:27,043 --> 00:09:29,382 Started off as a reporter; now she's working 190 00:09:29,382 --> 00:09:30,813 mainly government contracts. 191 00:09:30,814 --> 00:09:32,381 She leaves Saturday. She tells her husband 192 00:09:32,416 --> 00:09:33,983 she's going to visit her ex. 193 00:09:34,017 --> 00:09:36,385 Her ex wasn't sure if she was showing up at all. 194 00:09:37,954 --> 00:09:39,789 A successful career? 195 00:09:39,823 --> 00:09:42,558 Husband and father seem to think she was pretty happy, 196 00:09:42,592 --> 00:09:44,560 so that's a tough sell. 197 00:09:44,594 --> 00:09:46,061 Suicide? 198 00:09:46,096 --> 00:09:48,097 Yeah. But again, it doesn't fit. 199 00:09:48,131 --> 00:09:50,232 There were no warning signs. 200 00:09:50,267 --> 00:09:53,602 Plus, the search dogs found no evidence of her leaving the vehicle. 201 00:09:53,637 --> 00:09:55,371 Could be foul play. 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,774 No body nearby. And again, 203 00:09:58,809 --> 00:10:01,076 search dogs would have found something. 204 00:10:01,111 --> 00:10:02,945 Killer could have left the body somewhere else 205 00:10:02,979 --> 00:10:05,614 and planted the car there as a decoy. 206 00:10:05,649 --> 00:10:08,117 Where do we go from here? 207 00:10:08,151 --> 00:10:09,952 Let's freeze the bank accounts. 208 00:10:09,986 --> 00:10:13,355 If it was foul play, somebody may try to access them. 209 00:10:13,390 --> 00:10:16,425 And if she did run away, she's likely to try, too. 210 00:10:16,460 --> 00:10:20,296 And then we're gonna dig deep into everyone she knew, 211 00:10:20,330 --> 00:10:23,999 starting with Brett Morgan and John Maisonneuve. 212 00:10:29,306 --> 00:10:31,407 Do you guys have any ideas, suspects? 213 00:10:31,441 --> 00:10:33,943 For now, we're just gathering information, sir, 214 00:10:33,977 --> 00:10:36,245 which is why we need to take an official statement. 215 00:10:36,279 --> 00:10:38,147 Am I a suspect? 216 00:10:38,181 --> 00:10:39,715 At the moment, you are our best source 217 00:10:39,749 --> 00:10:43,486 of information. That doesn't make you a suspect. 218 00:10:44,654 --> 00:10:47,857 Well, maybe I should be. 219 00:10:52,696 --> 00:10:54,096 I wanna be up front about this, 220 00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:58,400 but I want you to understand the whole story. 221 00:10:58,435 --> 00:11:01,103 I killed someone. 222 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:05,841 I was young, hooked on coke, 223 00:11:05,876 --> 00:11:09,111 and things got messy. It was an accident. 224 00:11:09,145 --> 00:11:12,147 I was convicted of manslaughter. 225 00:11:12,182 --> 00:11:14,884 This was a shocking revelation. 226 00:11:14,918 --> 00:11:16,418 One of the first things he told us, 227 00:11:16,453 --> 00:11:18,954 "I strangled a hooker in Edmonton in 1978." 228 00:11:18,989 --> 00:11:22,124 It was just unheard of for me to have a confession like that, 229 00:11:22,158 --> 00:11:26,629 interviewing someone about a missing person. 230 00:11:26,663 --> 00:11:29,798 I think about it every day. 231 00:11:29,833 --> 00:11:32,167 It took me a while to get myself straight, 232 00:11:32,202 --> 00:11:35,337 and that's how I met Louise. 233 00:11:35,372 --> 00:11:37,206 Louise help you get clean? 234 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,910 Not exactly. You know who David Milgaard is? 235 00:11:40,944 --> 00:11:44,547 The guy who was wrongly convicted for killing a nurse? 236 00:11:44,581 --> 00:11:49,351 Exactly. One day, I'm in jail and my cellmate tells me 237 00:11:49,386 --> 00:11:53,255 he's the one who killed that nurse that put Milgaard in jail. 238 00:11:53,290 --> 00:11:55,913 - What's his name? - Larry Fisher. 239 00:11:55,913 --> 00:11:56,940 Larry Fisher? 240 00:11:56,940 --> 00:11:59,161 Yeah. He seemed like he was telling the truth. 241 00:11:59,195 --> 00:12:01,931 It bothered me that Milgaard could be innocent 242 00:12:01,965 --> 00:12:04,233 and was in jail so I told on him. 243 00:12:04,267 --> 00:12:08,370 Skip ahead, there I am in court, 244 00:12:08,405 --> 00:12:10,673 testifying against my own cellmate. 245 00:12:10,707 --> 00:12:14,209 And I mean, you rat out someone in jail and 246 00:12:14,244 --> 00:12:16,478 it brings a set of problems. 247 00:12:16,513 --> 00:12:20,149 So Louise was covering the trial and, uh, 248 00:12:20,183 --> 00:12:23,686 she was writing the story for some paper. She saw me testify 249 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,488 and, uh, she started writing me letters. 250 00:12:26,523 --> 00:12:29,024 And after I got out, we got together. 251 00:12:29,059 --> 00:12:31,160 What happened to your ex-cellmate? 252 00:12:31,194 --> 00:12:33,495 Well, here's the thing. I don't know. 253 00:12:33,530 --> 00:12:36,298 I, I heard he was out of jail. 254 00:12:36,333 --> 00:12:38,367 Perhaps Larry Fisher was taking out 255 00:12:38,401 --> 00:12:40,169 some sort of revenge on Brett Morgan 256 00:12:40,203 --> 00:12:44,506 for being a rat. We'd better have a look at Larry Fisher. 257 00:12:44,541 --> 00:12:47,076 Maybe he's involved in the disappearance of Louise Ellis. 258 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:50,045 Mr. Morgan, do you mind if I take a look around? 259 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,614 Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. 260 00:12:51,648 --> 00:12:55,184 Thanks. 261 00:13:00,256 --> 00:13:03,926 OK. Mr. Morgan, walk me through the day Louise left. 262 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,427 I had a little peek around the house 263 00:13:05,462 --> 00:13:07,763 while John was talking to Morgan. 264 00:13:07,797 --> 00:13:11,667 I could see that the house was very... very neat and tidy, 265 00:13:11,701 --> 00:13:14,637 the way she kept it. 266 00:13:15,805 --> 00:13:19,508 She was very organized, very meticulous. 267 00:13:24,118 --> 00:13:27,352 I found financial records and a handwritten will. 268 00:13:27,675 --> 00:13:31,531 I decided to go into the bathroom and I could smell 269 00:13:31,531 --> 00:13:33,656 the new shower curtain, 270 00:13:33,690 --> 00:13:36,158 and the hangers on the shower curtain were askew. 271 00:13:38,328 --> 00:13:41,230 And that was not Louise Ellis. 272 00:13:41,264 --> 00:13:43,832 What happened in this bathroom that he had to go out 273 00:13:43,867 --> 00:13:45,601 and buy a new shower curtain? 274 00:13:45,635 --> 00:13:48,971 That was it. I was home before midnight. 275 00:13:49,005 --> 00:13:51,273 Is that a new shower curtain? 276 00:13:51,307 --> 00:13:54,576 Yeah, yeah. Shredded the old one in the washing machine 277 00:13:54,611 --> 00:13:56,145 when I was doing the spring cleaning. 278 00:13:56,179 --> 00:13:57,713 Louise asked me to buy a new one before she left. 279 00:13:58,982 --> 00:14:02,851 Whose files are these? 280 00:14:07,323 --> 00:14:08,791 Louise's. 281 00:14:08,825 --> 00:14:10,286 Would you mind if we took them? 282 00:14:10,286 --> 00:14:12,361 They could go a long way in helping us find out what happened. 283 00:14:12,395 --> 00:14:14,296 Oh, yeah, yeah. Sure. Whatever you need. 284 00:14:14,330 --> 00:14:15,531 Thank you. 285 00:14:15,565 --> 00:14:17,332 Other than Larry Fisher, 286 00:14:17,367 --> 00:14:20,402 is there anyone you can think of that would wanna hurt Louise? 287 00:14:20,437 --> 00:14:23,072 Her ex, John Maisonneuve. 288 00:14:23,106 --> 00:14:27,009 She left him for me and he's not over it. 289 00:14:27,043 --> 00:14:28,410 She left him for you? 290 00:14:28,445 --> 00:14:30,079 He didn't tell you? 291 00:14:30,113 --> 00:14:33,849 He calls her all the time. 292 00:14:33,883 --> 00:14:36,218 Thursday, before she disappeared, we're trying to watch a movie 293 00:14:36,252 --> 00:14:38,687 and he calls her and she's on the phone 294 00:14:38,722 --> 00:14:40,489 talking to him for at least an hour. 295 00:14:40,523 --> 00:14:42,491 I fell asleep on the couch. 296 00:14:42,525 --> 00:14:43,892 An hour? 297 00:14:43,927 --> 00:14:44,993 Yeah. He's possessive. 298 00:14:45,028 --> 00:14:49,398 I don't trust him. 299 00:14:49,432 --> 00:14:51,734 Louise and John Maisonneuve had a 300 00:14:51,768 --> 00:14:54,737 lengthy relationship. And now, all of a sudden, 301 00:14:54,771 --> 00:14:58,040 on one of the nights before Louise went missing, 302 00:14:58,074 --> 00:14:59,875 John Maisonneuve calls their home and 303 00:14:59,909 --> 00:15:01,343 talked for over an hour. 304 00:15:01,377 --> 00:15:03,512 It was just a quick call, 305 00:15:03,546 --> 00:15:06,081 maybe ten, fifteen minutes, maybe a little more. 306 00:15:06,116 --> 00:15:08,016 How much more? 307 00:15:08,051 --> 00:15:10,385 I wasn't exactly recording it. 308 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:12,454 Uh, an hour? 309 00:15:12,489 --> 00:15:14,923 I don't know. 310 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:17,025 When did you and Louise break up? 311 00:15:17,060 --> 00:15:18,794 About three years ago. 312 00:15:18,828 --> 00:15:20,796 Around the Milgaard trial. 313 00:15:20,830 --> 00:15:22,664 You've spoken with Brett. 314 00:15:22,699 --> 00:15:23,866 Yeah. 315 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:26,869 Mind if I take a look around? 316 00:15:26,903 --> 00:15:30,739 Of course. Anything you need. 317 00:15:30,774 --> 00:15:36,078 Look, that trial consumed her. 318 00:15:36,112 --> 00:15:39,348 Is that the reason it ended? 319 00:15:39,382 --> 00:15:41,583 You could say that. 320 00:15:41,618 --> 00:15:45,087 Did it bother you, the, uh, 321 00:15:45,121 --> 00:15:47,623 ex-con stealing your wife? 322 00:15:47,657 --> 00:15:49,458 Of course. 323 00:15:49,492 --> 00:15:53,228 You still hoping she comes back? 324 00:15:53,263 --> 00:15:56,031 You could say that too. 325 00:15:56,065 --> 00:16:01,236 Louise is a beautiful person, 326 00:16:01,271 --> 00:16:05,140 vibrant, intelligent, passionate, 327 00:16:05,175 --> 00:16:07,142 full of life, 328 00:16:07,177 --> 00:16:10,879 full of love. 329 00:16:11,848 --> 00:16:13,715 She always sees the good in people, 330 00:16:13,750 --> 00:16:16,185 even terrible people. 331 00:16:16,219 --> 00:16:17,519 Like who? 332 00:16:17,554 --> 00:16:19,988 Morgan. Frankly, the guy's a jerk. 333 00:16:20,023 --> 00:16:22,291 He used her. He played her. 334 00:16:22,325 --> 00:16:24,993 He made her think that he was reformed and brave. 335 00:16:25,028 --> 00:16:27,529 He doesn't have a job, doesn't have money. 336 00:16:27,564 --> 00:16:29,731 And now she's missing. 337 00:16:29,766 --> 00:16:32,301 So you think Morgan's behind her disappearance? 338 00:16:32,335 --> 00:16:36,004 Who else? 339 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:38,674 The guy's got a temper. 340 00:16:38,708 --> 00:16:41,343 You mind if I take a look around outside? 341 00:16:41,377 --> 00:16:45,547 No. 342 00:16:49,652 --> 00:16:52,154 Louise left John Maisonneuve for Brett Morgan, 343 00:16:52,188 --> 00:16:54,957 but John Maisonneuve still loved Louise Ellis. 344 00:16:54,991 --> 00:16:59,127 John Maisonneuve did not have a strong alibi. 345 00:16:59,162 --> 00:17:01,997 He was calm and cooperative but pointing the finger 346 00:17:02,031 --> 00:17:03,765 at somebody else. 347 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,500 In the driveway leading to his property, 348 00:17:05,535 --> 00:17:10,105 It was surprising to find some very deep ruts caused by tires. 349 00:17:10,139 --> 00:17:13,876 Perhaps these tire ruts were caused by Louise Ellis' vehicle 350 00:17:13,910 --> 00:17:15,711 being there a few days before that. 351 00:17:15,745 --> 00:17:18,847 I needed to get a sample of the dirt from his driveway 352 00:17:18,882 --> 00:17:21,149 to compare it to what was found on Louise's vehicle. 353 00:17:23,419 --> 00:17:25,721 If these soil samples did match up, 354 00:17:25,755 --> 00:17:28,357 maybe Louise was on John Maisonneuve's property. 355 00:17:28,391 --> 00:17:30,492 Maybe there was some involvement by John Maisonneuve 356 00:17:30,526 --> 00:17:31,760 in her disappearance. 357 00:17:37,153 --> 00:17:38,558 At this point in the investigation, 358 00:17:38,721 --> 00:17:40,887 we still had three persons of interest. 359 00:17:40,887 --> 00:17:43,730 We had John Maisonneuve, an ex-boyfriend. 360 00:17:44,132 --> 00:17:47,134 And Brett Morgan, a convicted murderer 361 00:17:47,168 --> 00:17:49,103 and Brett's cellmate, Larry Fisher. 362 00:17:49,137 --> 00:17:51,023 Maybe he's involved in this. 363 00:17:51,023 --> 00:17:53,391 Judge's reviewing David Milgaard's conviction 364 00:17:53,426 --> 00:17:55,460 have heard dramatic testimony, 365 00:17:55,494 --> 00:17:57,228 testimony that may link someone else 366 00:17:57,263 --> 00:17:59,230 to the murder of Gail Miller. 367 00:17:59,265 --> 00:18:01,566 Milgaard has spent more than twenty-two years in prison 368 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,569 for that killing, but he said all along that he's innocent. 369 00:18:04,603 --> 00:18:06,905 And now the Supreme Court is trying to determine 370 00:18:06,939 --> 00:18:08,673 if he is telling the truth. 371 00:18:08,708 --> 00:18:11,109 Today it heard from three women who all had damaging things 372 00:18:11,143 --> 00:18:14,779 to say about another man, the man Milgaard supporters believe 373 00:18:14,814 --> 00:18:18,783 may be the real murderer. Sasha Petrosic has the story. 374 00:18:18,818 --> 00:18:22,020 Fisher's a convicted sex offender in prison 375 00:18:22,054 --> 00:18:24,689 for committing three rapes in the same neighborhood 376 00:18:24,724 --> 00:18:27,759 in the months before and after Saskatoon police found 377 00:18:27,793 --> 00:18:31,129 Gail Miller's body. She had ben raped and stabbed to death. 378 00:18:31,163 --> 00:18:32,797 Fisher told police he was at work that day... 379 00:18:32,832 --> 00:18:35,800 This case is so crazy to me. 380 00:18:35,835 --> 00:18:37,635 The fact that Morgan actually spoke out 381 00:18:37,670 --> 00:18:40,739 against him is a pretty big deal. 382 00:18:40,773 --> 00:18:44,776 Morgan was right, Fisher's out of jail. 383 00:18:46,412 --> 00:18:48,747 What? 384 00:18:48,781 --> 00:18:50,281 If Milgaard is out, 385 00:18:50,316 --> 00:18:51,983 why the hell isn't Fisher in prison? 386 00:18:52,018 --> 00:18:54,419 Other than Morgan's testimony, they didn't have any proof 387 00:18:54,453 --> 00:18:56,855 that Larry Fisher killed Gail Miller. 388 00:18:56,889 --> 00:18:59,157 So he served his time for rape and he's out. 389 00:18:59,191 --> 00:19:02,527 Well. Morgan's got good reason to be nervous then, huh? 390 00:19:02,561 --> 00:19:05,964 Except, Larry Fisher was pulled over for 391 00:19:05,998 --> 00:19:08,466 a traffic violation the same day Louise Ellis disappeared, 392 00:19:08,501 --> 00:19:10,335 in Saskatoon. 393 00:19:10,369 --> 00:19:12,537 Three thousand clicks from here. 394 00:19:12,571 --> 00:19:13,838 Yes. 395 00:19:13,873 --> 00:19:15,740 Got some bad news. 396 00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:18,276 Soil on the car isn't a match with Maisonneuve's farm. 397 00:19:22,181 --> 00:19:26,151 So that means she never made it to Maisonneuve's cottage. 398 00:19:26,185 --> 00:19:28,653 Well, it doesn't completely absolve him, 399 00:19:28,687 --> 00:19:31,156 but it certainly makes him look a hell of a lot less guilty. 400 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:33,658 Uh, I wish I could say the same 401 00:19:33,692 --> 00:19:36,461 for our friend Brett Morgan. 402 00:19:36,495 --> 00:19:38,830 Look through Louise's will. 403 00:19:38,864 --> 00:19:41,099 It basically leaves everything to one person, 404 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:43,034 and it isn't Maisonneuve. 405 00:19:43,069 --> 00:19:46,671 Brett Morgan was the total beneficiary 406 00:19:46,705 --> 00:19:50,508 of her will, plus her RRSPs and her home. He now moved 407 00:19:50,543 --> 00:19:53,344 from a person of interest to a very strong suspect 408 00:19:53,379 --> 00:19:55,380 in that he was going to benefit from her death. 409 00:19:55,414 --> 00:19:58,249 I had to go to her bank myself and find out 410 00:19:58,284 --> 00:20:00,251 what Louise Ellis owned. 411 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:02,454 A few months ago, she was thirty-five thousand dollars 412 00:20:02,488 --> 00:20:05,023 in debt, and she didn't even know it. 413 00:20:05,057 --> 00:20:08,860 Her husband was cashing false checks on her line of credit 414 00:20:08,894 --> 00:20:10,328 by forging her signature. 415 00:20:10,362 --> 00:20:14,232 When she found out about it, it was too late. 416 00:20:14,266 --> 00:20:15,600 Did anyone call the police? 417 00:20:15,634 --> 00:20:17,368 Louise didn't want to press charges. 418 00:20:17,403 --> 00:20:22,006 Brett was on parole. This could have put him back in jail. 419 00:20:22,041 --> 00:20:24,042 Any other transactions on the accounts 420 00:20:24,076 --> 00:20:25,510 since her disappearance? 421 00:20:25,544 --> 00:20:29,881 There was a withdrawal on that same day 422 00:20:29,915 --> 00:20:35,720 for $280 at her usual ATM in Ottawa near her home. 423 00:20:35,754 --> 00:20:37,155 What time was that at? 424 00:20:37,189 --> 00:20:39,357 2:53 p.m. 425 00:20:39,391 --> 00:20:41,359 She was supposed to be out of town at that time. 426 00:20:41,393 --> 00:20:43,428 Exactly. 427 00:20:43,462 --> 00:20:46,197 And Louise's bank card is the only one associated with the account. 428 00:20:46,232 --> 00:20:48,766 Were you able to make a copy of the image 429 00:20:48,801 --> 00:20:50,368 of the transaction for me? 430 00:20:50,402 --> 00:20:52,237 Yes. 431 00:20:53,639 --> 00:20:56,808 - Her husband made the withdrawal. - Yeah. 432 00:20:59,078 --> 00:21:00,612 Thank you very much for this, Lisa. 433 00:21:00,646 --> 00:21:03,248 Here's Brett Morgan using 434 00:21:03,282 --> 00:21:06,117 her one and only bank card at an ATM machine. 435 00:21:06,152 --> 00:21:08,720 I saw the cheque; I saw the forgery; 436 00:21:08,754 --> 00:21:11,422 I saw his picture in the bank. I thought 437 00:21:11,457 --> 00:21:13,625 "This is our guy." 438 00:21:13,659 --> 00:21:16,928 He's already murdered a woman before. 439 00:21:16,962 --> 00:21:18,663 The victim was Gwen Telford. 440 00:21:18,697 --> 00:21:21,399 Motel staff found her body around 3:33 in the afternoon. 441 00:21:21,433 --> 00:21:24,669 We figure she'd been dead for twelve hours at least. 442 00:21:24,703 --> 00:21:27,272 John MacLeod was the investigating detective 443 00:21:27,306 --> 00:21:30,475 in Edmonton in 1978. He told us Morgan sat on 444 00:21:30,509 --> 00:21:33,545 the chest of this woman, put a pillow over her face, 445 00:21:33,579 --> 00:21:36,214 put his hands on her throat, and as he strangled her said 446 00:21:36,248 --> 00:21:38,016 "Die, you bitch, die." 447 00:21:38,050 --> 00:21:39,918 It should have been murder, plain and simple. 448 00:21:39,952 --> 00:21:42,086 The reason it was reduced to manslaughter 449 00:21:42,121 --> 00:21:45,123 is he lied through his teeth. He denied everything. 450 00:21:45,157 --> 00:21:48,293 He came up with a bunch of crazy excuses 451 00:21:48,327 --> 00:21:51,930 to convince the courts that it was an accident. 452 00:21:51,964 --> 00:21:54,098 They settled, manslaughter. 453 00:21:54,133 --> 00:21:57,035 Morgan is a master manipulator. 454 00:21:57,069 --> 00:22:00,004 I mean, hell, he even manipulated me for a while. 455 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:01,973 How so? 456 00:22:02,007 --> 00:22:06,377 After we found Gwen's body, he drove around with me for days 457 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:10,882 pretending that he was looking for the guy who did it. 458 00:22:12,151 --> 00:22:13,618 Bob? 459 00:22:13,652 --> 00:22:15,486 Surveillance says Morgan's back at the scene 460 00:22:15,521 --> 00:22:18,489 where he found Louise's car. Says he's stopping vehicles, 461 00:22:18,524 --> 00:22:20,925 taking statements, handing out flyers. 462 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,028 Oh, yeah. That's Morgan. 463 00:22:24,063 --> 00:22:26,664 It seemed like this was the way Brett Morgan operated, 464 00:22:26,699 --> 00:22:29,200 trying to manipulate the police, be the con man. 465 00:22:29,235 --> 00:22:32,604 Here we have him in Ottawa being very helpful, 466 00:22:32,638 --> 00:22:35,640 going on television, going for Ottawa Citizen interviews. 467 00:22:37,409 --> 00:22:39,811 Excuse me, sir, but my wife has gone missing. I'm hoping 468 00:22:39,845 --> 00:22:42,180 to find anyone who may have seen her. 469 00:22:42,214 --> 00:22:44,682 Oh, this, yeah. I saw this on the news. 470 00:22:44,717 --> 00:22:47,185 Actually, I may have seen something. 471 00:22:47,219 --> 00:22:49,087 Great, great. Can I get you to 472 00:22:49,121 --> 00:22:52,824 write your name here, and any contact info? 473 00:22:52,858 --> 00:22:54,425 Sure. 474 00:22:57,663 --> 00:22:59,397 Thank you. Really appreciate it. 475 00:22:59,431 --> 00:23:01,733 - Have a good one. - I will. 476 00:23:11,477 --> 00:23:14,145 Thanks, guys. 477 00:23:15,347 --> 00:23:17,515 We don't know what is going on with Brett Morgan. 478 00:23:17,549 --> 00:23:19,917 Was this part of his ruse, part of this being a con? 479 00:23:19,952 --> 00:23:23,554 The media left at two o'clock in the afternoon. 480 00:23:23,589 --> 00:23:26,724 At that point, Morgan thought he was alone. 481 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:29,784 Walks over to the Gatineau river and throws the piece of paper 482 00:23:29,784 --> 00:23:33,064 he'd been writing on in the water. Looked like he was so caring. 483 00:23:33,098 --> 00:23:36,868 But in fact, threw the name of the witness in the river. 484 00:23:36,902 --> 00:23:40,004 In my eyes, the missing person is now a homicide. 485 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,052 Brett Morgan? 486 00:23:42,052 --> 00:23:44,609 He was the devil. 487 00:23:49,892 --> 00:23:52,016 We had a lot of circumstantial evidence 488 00:23:52,051 --> 00:23:54,152 pointing to Brett Morgan as the person responsible 489 00:23:54,186 --> 00:23:57,555 for the murder of Louise Ellis, but there was one thing missing: 490 00:23:57,590 --> 00:24:02,760 the body. Find Louise and we can actually charge Brett Morgan. 491 00:24:05,931 --> 00:24:07,632 With all the evidence we gathered, 492 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:10,602 we were able to apply for a wiretap on Brett Morgan's phone, 493 00:24:10,636 --> 00:24:14,272 his house and also we put one into his vehicle. 494 00:24:23,782 --> 00:24:25,950 It's so good to have someone to talk to. 495 00:24:25,985 --> 00:24:27,652 You're the only one who really listens anyway, Marie. 496 00:24:29,622 --> 00:24:31,489 Marie? Who the hell's Marie? 497 00:24:31,523 --> 00:24:34,125 Have you seen what they're saying about me in the paper? 498 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:37,028 The whole frigging town thinks I killed her. 499 00:24:38,497 --> 00:24:40,832 The same thing happened to Milgaard. 500 00:24:40,866 --> 00:24:42,734 The cops don't do their job and an innocent guy gets blamed. 501 00:24:42,768 --> 00:24:45,169 I just, I just want my wife. 502 00:24:45,204 --> 00:24:47,538 That's why I'm here, Brett. Right? 503 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:50,441 And when we find Louise, everyone will know 504 00:24:50,476 --> 00:24:52,176 that they have misjudged you. 505 00:24:52,211 --> 00:24:56,314 Is she buying his crap and helping him look for Louise? 506 00:24:56,348 --> 00:24:58,783 You're a brave man, Brett. 507 00:24:58,817 --> 00:25:01,219 Thank you. 508 00:25:01,253 --> 00:25:03,855 I've been thinking a little about the case. 509 00:25:03,889 --> 00:25:06,124 When you found the car, 510 00:25:06,158 --> 00:25:08,493 was Louise's seat in the same position? 511 00:25:08,527 --> 00:25:11,796 It was exactly the way Louise left it. 512 00:25:13,065 --> 00:25:16,834 She's short. She likes to drive close to the steering wheel. 513 00:25:16,869 --> 00:25:19,637 Makes sense. Why was it there? 514 00:25:19,672 --> 00:25:21,639 She was visiting Maisonneuve. 515 00:25:21,674 --> 00:25:24,142 I'm telling you; we check his property, we'll find her. 516 00:25:24,176 --> 00:25:27,845 Well, then, you tell me when and I'll come. 517 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,808 - Seriously? - Absolutely. 518 00:25:29,808 --> 00:25:32,387 If the police aren't gonna help you, then I will. All right? 519 00:25:32,387 --> 00:25:38,076 - Just let me know when. - I will. I... Thank you, Marie. 520 00:25:38,824 --> 00:25:41,325 I was extremely worried about this woman. 521 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,262 Brett Morgan was capable of great brutality. 522 00:25:44,296 --> 00:25:46,864 We felt that we should speak to Marie at the police station. 523 00:25:48,734 --> 00:25:50,702 Would you mind telling us what you were doing 524 00:25:50,736 --> 00:25:52,904 at Brett Morgan's house? 525 00:25:52,938 --> 00:25:56,474 Just talking about what happened to his wife. 526 00:25:56,508 --> 00:25:59,277 I see. How long have you known him? 527 00:25:59,311 --> 00:26:01,379 Only a couple of days. 528 00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:03,347 I saw him on TV. He was looking for his wife. 529 00:26:03,382 --> 00:26:04,749 And what, you felt sorry for him? 530 00:26:04,783 --> 00:26:05,883 I did, yeah. 531 00:26:05,918 --> 00:26:09,520 But not anymore. 532 00:26:09,555 --> 00:26:11,622 What changed? 533 00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:16,828 I've been thinking a little about the case. 534 00:26:16,862 --> 00:26:18,596 When you found the car, 535 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:21,632 was Louise's seat in the same position? 536 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:23,434 It was exactly the way I left... 537 00:26:23,469 --> 00:26:25,536 exactly the way Louise left it. 538 00:26:27,306 --> 00:26:30,108 Almost said, "Just the way I left it," but he said, 539 00:26:30,142 --> 00:26:31,743 "It was just the way Louise left it." 540 00:26:31,777 --> 00:26:33,778 that was a major faux pas by Brett Morgan. 541 00:26:33,812 --> 00:26:38,249 Look, I don't wanna mess anything up, OK? 542 00:26:38,283 --> 00:26:40,284 But I can help. 543 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:44,756 I'm a private investigator. Well, I'm taking courses. 544 00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:48,726 And I told him that I could help him find the body, 545 00:26:48,761 --> 00:26:52,063 so now he trusts me. 546 00:26:52,097 --> 00:26:53,898 And he needs to be stopped, right? 547 00:26:53,932 --> 00:26:55,967 Let's stop him. 548 00:26:58,771 --> 00:27:01,572 You're gonna have to give us a couple of minutes. 549 00:27:10,682 --> 00:27:12,116 So what are you thinking? 550 00:27:12,151 --> 00:27:14,218 You're seriously considering this? 551 00:27:14,253 --> 00:27:15,820 Well, it wouldn't be the first time we worked 552 00:27:15,854 --> 00:27:17,421 with a private investigator. 553 00:27:17,456 --> 00:27:19,757 In training? I don't know. I don't like it. 554 00:27:19,792 --> 00:27:22,293 I think we gotta do it. I think we have to. 555 00:27:22,327 --> 00:27:25,997 It's our best chance to find out what happened to Louise. 556 00:27:26,031 --> 00:27:27,665 John and I weighed the pros and cons 557 00:27:27,699 --> 00:27:30,568 of having this totally unknown person involved 558 00:27:30,602 --> 00:27:32,069 in this level of the investigation. 559 00:27:33,605 --> 00:27:36,474 It was a very difficult decision, but Brett Morgan trusted her; 560 00:27:36,508 --> 00:27:38,442 she knew what we wanted to do, and she had 561 00:27:38,477 --> 00:27:41,479 a real gift of the gab. She could, uh, 562 00:27:41,513 --> 00:27:43,514 probably talk Brett Morgan into doing almost anything. 563 00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:47,018 We needed her to find Louise's body. 564 00:27:47,052 --> 00:27:48,853 Now as long as you have this purse with you, 565 00:27:48,887 --> 00:27:51,355 we'll be able to hear everything that's going on. 566 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,829 OK. I've never been bugged before. 567 00:27:57,863 --> 00:28:01,866 Marie, what you're about to do is extremely dangerous. OK? 568 00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,836 We'll do everything we can to prevent you from being hurt, 569 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:07,538 but we can't guarantee your safety. 570 00:28:07,573 --> 00:28:09,540 Now are you still sure you want to go through with this? 571 00:28:09,575 --> 00:28:13,811 Yeah. I'm sure. 572 00:28:13,846 --> 00:28:15,179 It was a huge risk in allowing 573 00:28:15,214 --> 00:28:18,015 this civilian to get knee-deep 574 00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:20,351 into what we believed now was a homicide investigation. 575 00:28:34,566 --> 00:28:38,988 - Good morning. - Good morning. 576 00:28:39,805 --> 00:28:41,372 - Let's go. - Let's go. 577 00:28:43,342 --> 00:28:45,409 He took the hook. He took the bait. 578 00:28:45,444 --> 00:28:48,713 We weren't too worried about her danger cause we were very close. 579 00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:52,316 I guess you could say we were risk-takers, 580 00:28:52,351 --> 00:28:54,752 but we did want to find a body for evidence. 581 00:28:56,889 --> 00:28:58,589 I spoke to my friend at the newspaper. 582 00:28:58,624 --> 00:29:02,326 They said that John Maisonneue failed a lie detector. 583 00:29:02,361 --> 00:29:04,795 No surprise there. 584 00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:06,697 You really think that he killed her? 585 00:29:06,732 --> 00:29:08,065 Oh, yeah. 586 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,668 I think I know where she is too. 587 00:29:10,702 --> 00:29:12,503 How? 588 00:29:14,239 --> 00:29:16,407 I told you I killed someone before, 589 00:29:16,441 --> 00:29:18,376 so I've been putting myself in that mindset. 590 00:29:18,410 --> 00:29:22,246 If I'm John Maisonneuve, I'm looking for a nice quiet place 591 00:29:22,281 --> 00:29:24,649 close to home. 592 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:29,687 There's a back road to this property. 593 00:29:29,721 --> 00:29:32,089 Pull over here. 594 00:29:34,393 --> 00:29:36,093 As they started to go off 595 00:29:36,128 --> 00:29:38,129 the highway up in Quebec, we're realizing how hard it is 596 00:29:38,163 --> 00:29:39,597 to follow someone 597 00:29:39,631 --> 00:29:41,599 in a rural area doing surveillance. 598 00:29:41,633 --> 00:29:43,401 We had to back surveillance off. 599 00:29:43,435 --> 00:29:46,404 We could not go in there into John Maisonneuve's property. 600 00:29:46,438 --> 00:29:48,239 If we would have pulled in to follow them, 601 00:29:48,273 --> 00:29:51,809 if he would have turned around, we would have been burnt. 602 00:29:51,843 --> 00:29:54,111 Dammit. We better not lose them. 603 00:29:54,146 --> 00:29:55,980 That was a dicey situation. 604 00:30:14,633 --> 00:30:15,900 Yeah. I think it's in through here. 605 00:30:32,851 --> 00:30:36,087 Are we close? 606 00:30:36,121 --> 00:30:40,257 Yeah. Just a little further this way. 607 00:30:49,701 --> 00:30:53,337 I only sweat like this when I'm about to have sex. 608 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:58,509 You're thinking about that at a time like this? 609 00:31:05,017 --> 00:31:08,085 Forget it. We won't find her today. 610 00:31:11,556 --> 00:31:13,924 That was very, very frustrating for us. 611 00:31:13,959 --> 00:31:16,861 Wondering what had we done wrong, 612 00:31:16,895 --> 00:31:19,030 what does he know, what are we gonna do? 613 00:31:27,539 --> 00:31:30,574 You wanna come back to my place? 614 00:31:30,609 --> 00:31:32,209 Figure out where to look tomorrow? 615 00:31:32,244 --> 00:31:37,615 Just let me, um, go to the washroom. 616 00:31:37,649 --> 00:31:42,253 Hey. Let me get that. 617 00:31:42,287 --> 00:31:43,621 We actually saw 618 00:31:43,655 --> 00:31:45,256 Morgan lean over to kiss Marie Parent. 619 00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:46,690 Knowing Brett Morgan, we weren't surprised. 620 00:31:46,725 --> 00:31:48,626 Be right back. 621 00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:50,061 It was not the way we did things. 622 00:31:50,095 --> 00:31:52,063 We said "OK, that's it; we're done." 623 00:31:52,097 --> 00:31:55,633 "This is not the way this investigation's going to go." 624 00:32:01,184 --> 00:32:05,120 After the attempted kiss, we told Marie Parent "You're done." 625 00:32:05,154 --> 00:32:06,619 And that's the way we left it. 626 00:32:06,619 --> 00:32:09,821 But Marie Parent still wanted to get him searching again. 627 00:32:09,856 --> 00:32:12,244 We had to take that risk. Unfortunately, 628 00:32:12,244 --> 00:32:14,226 Brett Morgan did not seem to be interested. 629 00:32:14,260 --> 00:32:17,729 Why is he all of a sudden getting cold feet? 630 00:32:17,763 --> 00:32:20,131 Has he become aware of the wiretaps? 631 00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:23,802 What's causing him to back off? 632 00:32:23,836 --> 00:32:25,437 So we had to use another tactic. 633 00:32:27,073 --> 00:32:29,741 Hi, Brett. Lisa Costello at the bank. 634 00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:32,611 I have some bad news. 635 00:32:32,645 --> 00:32:35,814 I'm afraid we won't be able to release 636 00:32:35,848 --> 00:32:40,785 any part of Louise's estate until she's officially deceased. 637 00:32:43,489 --> 00:32:45,524 She would either have to be found 638 00:32:45,558 --> 00:32:49,160 or missing for seven years. 639 00:32:49,996 --> 00:32:52,898 I'm sorry. 640 00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:55,867 Brett Morgan was the solel beneficiary 641 00:32:55,902 --> 00:32:58,537 of everything that Louise Ellis owned. 642 00:32:58,571 --> 00:33:01,506 Here in Ontario, unless you find a body, 643 00:33:01,541 --> 00:33:04,442 a person must be missing for seven years before 644 00:33:04,477 --> 00:33:05,944 you can access the will. 645 00:33:05,978 --> 00:33:09,014 We used that tool to get him searching again 646 00:33:09,048 --> 00:33:12,617 for Louise Ellis' body, and it worked. 647 00:33:12,652 --> 00:33:15,353 He was a con man who got conned by two better cons. 648 00:33:17,523 --> 00:33:18,890 Hop in. 649 00:33:18,925 --> 00:33:21,226 Oh, we're not gonna take my car? 650 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,628 We're gonna need a truck where we're going. 651 00:33:23,663 --> 00:33:25,397 Some pretty bad roads on Maisonneuve's property. 652 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,054 So are you scared about what we might find? 653 00:33:49,088 --> 00:33:51,523 It won't be pretty. 654 00:33:51,557 --> 00:33:55,193 What about you? 655 00:33:55,227 --> 00:33:57,596 You scared to be alone with me? 656 00:33:57,630 --> 00:34:01,366 No. No, I'm not scared. 657 00:34:05,438 --> 00:34:07,172 So they drove for 25 minutes. 658 00:34:07,206 --> 00:34:09,174 They got to this location maybe two miles away 659 00:34:09,208 --> 00:34:11,443 from John Maisonneuve's property. 660 00:34:12,945 --> 00:34:16,848 We still had wiretaps in her purse. 661 00:34:16,882 --> 00:34:18,516 Are you sure this is the place? 662 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:21,820 Positive. This is where Maisonneuve took her. 663 00:34:21,854 --> 00:34:23,888 I feel it. 664 00:34:32,632 --> 00:34:34,299 Are you working for the cops? 665 00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,368 The cops? What? 666 00:34:36,402 --> 00:34:38,637 Are you wearing a wire? 667 00:34:38,671 --> 00:34:40,105 What are you talking about? 668 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:42,173 A wire! Are you recording this? 669 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:43,942 Of course not! Why would I do that? 670 00:34:43,976 --> 00:34:45,243 How do I know I can trust you? 671 00:34:45,277 --> 00:34:46,778 - What are you saying? - How do I know? 672 00:34:46,812 --> 00:34:48,146 This is getting out of control. 673 00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:55,020 OK. Frisk me. 674 00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:30,021 OK. I trust you. 675 00:35:30,056 --> 00:35:31,189 OK. 676 00:35:32,792 --> 00:35:34,492 - Put these gloves on. - Why? 677 00:35:34,527 --> 00:35:37,195 Thorn bushes are bad where we're heading. 678 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,901 It was touch and go for a while. 679 00:35:42,935 --> 00:35:45,036 Were we concerned? Extremely concerned 680 00:35:45,071 --> 00:35:47,505 but the play was going on. 681 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:50,375 Oh no. Did we lose the signal? Or did we lose her? 682 00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:53,244 I'm going in. 683 00:35:53,279 --> 00:35:54,679 - Oh, my God. - Wait! Wait! Wait! Wait! 684 00:35:54,714 --> 00:35:55,980 - What? - Listen. 685 00:35:56,015 --> 00:35:57,816 - My poor Louise. - Listen. 686 00:35:57,850 --> 00:36:05,023 My God. My poor Louise. 687 00:36:05,057 --> 00:36:07,859 My God. 688 00:36:18,704 --> 00:36:20,939 Louise Ellis was never afforded a burial. 689 00:36:20,973 --> 00:36:23,174 She was just dumped in the ground, 690 00:36:23,209 --> 00:36:25,643 covered up with sticks, and just left her there 691 00:36:25,678 --> 00:36:30,715 to rot. It was horrific. 692 00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:48,333 Driving back into Ottawa, John and I did not talk much. 693 00:36:48,367 --> 00:36:50,668 The investigation was done. 694 00:36:50,703 --> 00:36:53,905 We had enough evidence to arrest Brett Morgan 695 00:36:53,939 --> 00:36:57,442 as the person responsible for the murder of Louise Ellis. 696 00:36:58,744 --> 00:37:00,779 I really wanted him to say to us, 697 00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:04,149 "Yes, I killed Louise Ellis and here's the reason I did it." 698 00:37:07,052 --> 00:37:09,020 How'd you find her, Brett? 699 00:37:09,054 --> 00:37:13,091 I looked, day in and day out, like you should have been doing. 700 00:37:13,125 --> 00:37:17,796 Really. Is that why you only found Louise 701 00:37:17,830 --> 00:37:20,098 after the bank told you the estate wouldn't pay out 702 00:37:20,132 --> 00:37:21,466 until you had a body? 703 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:25,737 We did a little digging of our own, too. 704 00:37:25,771 --> 00:37:27,405 We found Louise's signature forged 705 00:37:27,439 --> 00:37:29,707 on 35 thousand dollars' worth of cheques. 706 00:37:29,742 --> 00:37:32,010 I was gonna pay her back. 707 00:37:32,044 --> 00:37:34,779 And then, of course, there's the picture of you 708 00:37:34,814 --> 00:37:36,614 withdrawing money from an ATM 709 00:37:36,649 --> 00:37:38,449 using Louise's bank card. 710 00:37:38,484 --> 00:37:42,353 So what? I used her card all the time. She trusted me. 711 00:37:42,388 --> 00:37:44,756 Look at the date and time on it. 712 00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:48,459 Saturday, the day she disappeared, 713 00:37:48,494 --> 00:37:54,065 2:53 p.m., long after you said she'd left for Maisonneuve's. 714 00:37:54,099 --> 00:37:56,134 So I took money out after she left. 715 00:37:56,168 --> 00:38:00,572 We found her bank card in the vehicle. 716 00:38:00,606 --> 00:38:02,240 What does that prove? 717 00:38:02,274 --> 00:38:05,944 There was only one card on Louise's bank account, 718 00:38:05,978 --> 00:38:08,980 which means you planted it in the vehicle long after 719 00:38:09,014 --> 00:38:11,749 it had been abandoned on the side of the road. 720 00:38:11,784 --> 00:38:15,186 Her bank card was used at 2:53 p.m. 721 00:38:15,221 --> 00:38:18,990 If she left at 2:00, how is that bank card in her vehicle? 722 00:38:19,024 --> 00:38:20,758 Impossible. 723 00:38:20,793 --> 00:38:24,162 Unless Brett Morgan put it in the car after she was dead. 724 00:38:24,196 --> 00:38:27,265 How'd you kill her, Brett? Huh? 725 00:38:27,299 --> 00:38:29,434 I'll tell you how. 726 00:38:29,468 --> 00:38:32,604 It was Saturday morning. Louise told you 727 00:38:32,638 --> 00:38:34,505 she was going to Maisonneuve's. 728 00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:35,807 But you didn't like that, did you? 729 00:38:35,841 --> 00:38:38,276 So you got angry and you beat her, 730 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:40,345 like you had so many times before. 731 00:38:40,379 --> 00:38:42,080 I never touched her. 732 00:38:42,114 --> 00:38:44,582 That's not what her diary said. 733 00:38:46,252 --> 00:38:48,353 Louise wrote about what her relationship was like 734 00:38:48,387 --> 00:38:49,787 with Brett Morgan in her diary, 735 00:38:49,822 --> 00:38:51,756 having beer poured over her head, 736 00:38:51,790 --> 00:38:54,959 being hit on the ankle, held down like a dog. 737 00:38:54,994 --> 00:39:00,531 But this Saturday, beating her wasn't enough, was it? 738 00:39:00,566 --> 00:39:04,168 She knew about the cheques. She knew she was never gonna see that money. 739 00:39:04,203 --> 00:39:07,138 You were afraid she was gonna blow the lid off your little scheme, 740 00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:11,476 tell her family. You'd wind up back in prison. So you decided 741 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:14,646 to cash in, didn't you? You'd take her money and her property, 742 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,848 but to do that, you had to get rid of her. 743 00:39:16,882 --> 00:39:19,117 So you snuck up on her in the shower 744 00:39:19,151 --> 00:39:20,919 and you killed her and then you wrapped her 745 00:39:20,953 --> 00:39:23,488 in the shower curtain and you took her out to where you found 746 00:39:23,522 --> 00:39:25,456 her body. 747 00:39:25,491 --> 00:39:28,126 And you dumped her in what you thought was Maisonneuve's property, 748 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,694 but it wasn't. 749 00:39:29,728 --> 00:39:31,396 We found your little map, Brett. 750 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,502 You were so hell-bent on framing Maisonneuve 751 00:39:37,536 --> 00:39:40,171 for the murder, you didn't realize the map was wrong. 752 00:39:40,205 --> 00:39:42,473 It was nowhere near his property. 753 00:39:42,508 --> 00:39:45,410 Morgan, that day, used a map that was 754 00:39:45,444 --> 00:39:48,146 out-of-date and in fact, did not put the body 755 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:49,580 on John Maisonneuve's property. 756 00:39:49,615 --> 00:39:52,951 He tried to frame John Maisonneuve, 757 00:39:52,985 --> 00:39:56,154 but it didn't work. We got him. 758 00:39:56,188 --> 00:40:01,159 She gave you a roof over your head and a second chance. 759 00:40:01,193 --> 00:40:04,495 She helped you get out of prison and you put her in one. 760 00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:07,231 And then when she wanted out, 761 00:40:07,266 --> 00:40:11,769 you killed her and you dumped her body in the woods. 762 00:40:11,804 --> 00:40:13,504 Well, you're going back to prison, pal. 763 00:40:13,539 --> 00:40:18,977 Count on it. Hopefully for the rest of your pathetic life. 764 00:40:25,117 --> 00:40:27,218 We told him every piece of evidence we had 765 00:40:27,252 --> 00:40:30,822 against him and it did not faze him; he never confessed to it. 766 00:40:31,123 --> 00:40:32,657 After a six-month trial 767 00:40:32,691 --> 00:40:34,425 and two-and-a-half days of deliberation, 768 00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:37,895 a jury found Brett Morgan guilty of first-degree murder. 769 00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:41,132 About a dozen of Louise Ellis' friends and family were in the courtroom 770 00:40:41,166 --> 00:40:42,867 as the verdict was announced. 771 00:40:42,901 --> 00:40:46,270 Many were overwhelmed by emotion, bursting into tears. 772 00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:48,940 Morgan was automatically sentenced to life imprisonment 773 00:40:48,974 --> 00:40:51,309 with no chance of parole for twenty-five years. 774 00:40:51,343 --> 00:40:54,112 Judge Colin McKinnon told Morgn that Louise Ellis was in 775 00:40:54,146 --> 00:40:57,115 the prime of life. "She gave everything to assist you. 776 00:40:57,149 --> 00:40:59,984 She had so much life to live, and the jury found 777 00:41:00,019 --> 00:41:02,086 you took that from her." 778 00:41:02,121 --> 00:41:03,788 What Brett Morgan did to Louise Ellis was 779 00:41:03,822 --> 00:41:06,324 unimaginable and despicable. 780 00:41:06,358 --> 00:41:10,428 Allen Ellis, Louise's father, 781 00:41:10,462 --> 00:41:16,601 he just wailed that night. It just totally destroyed him. 782 00:41:23,709 --> 00:41:27,578 Louise Ellis firmly believed in Brett Morgan. 783 00:41:27,613 --> 00:41:30,014 They became friends and lovers. 784 00:41:30,049 --> 00:41:33,785 To see how long she put up with the physical and verbal 785 00:41:33,819 --> 00:41:36,354 and financial abuse was very troublesome 786 00:41:36,388 --> 00:41:38,322 because all she wanted to do was help him. 787 00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:42,627 It's been twenty-three years now, 788 00:41:42,661 --> 00:41:44,929 but I do think about her and the case. 789 00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:48,766 It was uh... it was a haunting case. 790 00:41:51,902 --> 00:41:56,035 - Sync and corrections by ByDem - - www.addic7ed.com - 61281

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