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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,421 --> 00:00:02,088 - This case will always be with me. - _ 2 00:00:02,090 --> 00:00:03,790 I will always remember it. 3 00:00:03,792 --> 00:00:06,683 Nancy Blackburn and her husband, Ian, 4 00:00:06,685 --> 00:00:09,419 were found in the trunk of their car Monday night. 5 00:00:09,421 --> 00:00:12,689 Nancy had ligature marks consistent with strangulation. 6 00:00:12,691 --> 00:00:15,525 God! He hog-tied her while she was still alive. 7 00:00:15,527 --> 00:00:18,758 There is no doubt somebody was being extremely cruel 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,049 for whatever reason. 9 00:00:20,051 --> 00:00:22,532 We did have a series of break-ins over the winter, 10 00:00:22,534 --> 00:00:24,434 some guy staying in vacant summer homes. 11 00:00:24,436 --> 00:00:25,759 Did you ever ID the guy? 12 00:00:25,761 --> 00:00:28,371 No. We just call him the House Hermit. 13 00:00:28,373 --> 00:00:30,307 As soon as I walked in the door, 14 00:00:30,309 --> 00:00:32,475 I hear: "Don't move or I'll shoot!" 15 00:00:32,477 --> 00:00:35,278 Do you think you could describe this guy to a sketch artist? 16 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,546 Absolutely! 17 00:00:37,356 --> 00:00:40,313 At this point, we believe the House Hermit 18 00:00:40,315 --> 00:00:42,953 is the one responsible for the Blackburns' murder. 19 00:00:42,955 --> 00:00:45,398 But we had no clue who he was. 20 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,858 If you think you see him, do not approach him. 21 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:51,595 - Clear. - Call 911. 22 00:00:51,597 --> 00:00:54,297 He is armed and extremely dangerous. 23 00:00:54,299 --> 00:00:55,932 We had to find this person. 24 00:00:58,146 --> 00:01:01,146 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 25 00:01:13,184 --> 00:01:15,351 It was I think midnight 26 00:01:15,353 --> 00:01:17,787 or a little bit later than midnight that I got the call. 27 00:01:19,423 --> 00:01:20,656 _ 28 00:01:20,658 --> 00:01:22,759 It was in the Forest Hill area 29 00:01:22,761 --> 00:01:25,595 in the north end of the City of Toronto. 30 00:01:27,232 --> 00:01:30,233 It's not normally where you would expect to find 31 00:01:30,235 --> 00:01:31,735 any violent occurrence. 32 00:01:33,371 --> 00:01:34,971 It was unusual. 33 00:01:42,185 --> 00:01:43,374 What do we got? 34 00:01:43,376 --> 00:01:46,249 Two victims, Ian and Nancy Blackburn, 35 00:01:46,251 --> 00:01:49,619 reported missing from the Caledon OPP earlier today. 36 00:01:49,621 --> 00:01:52,088 - Yeah. - They have a cottage up there. 37 00:01:52,090 --> 00:01:55,391 - Where are the bodies? - In the trunk of Nancy's car. 38 00:02:05,189 --> 00:02:08,080 The bodies looked like they had been in there 39 00:02:08,082 --> 00:02:09,799 for a while. 40 00:02:09,801 --> 00:02:14,007 The man was fully clothed, and the woman naked. 41 00:02:14,009 --> 00:02:16,233 The woman obviously had ligature marks 42 00:02:16,235 --> 00:02:19,636 around her wrist, her legs, her ankles. 43 00:02:20,478 --> 00:02:24,340 There was no doubt somebody was being extremely cruel 44 00:02:24,342 --> 00:02:26,542 for whatever reason to Nancy. 45 00:02:34,886 --> 00:02:36,364 Thanks. 46 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:39,157 In the car, there was a tissue. 47 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:41,893 And the tissue appeared to have blood on it. 48 00:02:41,895 --> 00:02:44,657 We weren't sure whose blood it was. 49 00:02:44,659 --> 00:02:46,048 Call a forensics truck. 50 00:02:46,050 --> 00:02:49,051 Tell them to take the car with the bodies still inside. 51 00:02:49,053 --> 00:02:50,953 Nobody touches a thing in there, okay? 52 00:02:50,955 --> 00:02:52,587 You already checked the house? 53 00:02:52,589 --> 00:02:56,166 Yeah, just mail and newspapers from a couple of days ago. 54 00:02:56,168 --> 00:02:57,901 It's probably when the crime happened. 55 00:02:57,903 --> 00:02:59,793 I mean, the house is pretty clean otherwise. 56 00:02:59,795 --> 00:03:01,150 Nothing seems to be missing. 57 00:03:01,152 --> 00:03:02,942 - Any signs of violence? - No. 58 00:03:02,944 --> 00:03:06,278 But the forensics team hasn't gotten through it yet. So... 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,813 Okay. Who found the bodies? 60 00:03:08,815 --> 00:03:13,184 Jamie Osborne, the nephew. He's pretty shocked. 61 00:03:15,166 --> 00:03:16,700 Thanks. 62 00:03:20,231 --> 00:03:23,133 Jamie? Detective Doug Grady. 63 00:03:23,135 --> 00:03:26,236 I understand you're the one that found them. 64 00:03:26,238 --> 00:03:27,637 Yeah. 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,240 How long had they been missing? 66 00:03:30,242 --> 00:03:31,775 I... I don't know. 67 00:03:33,012 --> 00:03:35,012 My dad asked me to check up on them. 68 00:03:35,014 --> 00:03:36,213 When I got here, 69 00:03:36,215 --> 00:03:38,782 I noticed the cat didn't have any food and water, 70 00:03:38,784 --> 00:03:40,917 and I thought that was weird. 71 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:45,188 Uh, so I... I checked the car and popped the trunk. 72 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:46,723 What made you pop the trunk? 73 00:03:46,725 --> 00:03:48,225 My dad asked me to... 74 00:03:49,227 --> 00:03:51,003 when I couldn't find them. 75 00:03:51,005 --> 00:03:53,996 It seemed like an unusual request, you know: 76 00:03:53,998 --> 00:03:56,099 "Check the trunk for your aunt and uncle". 77 00:03:57,436 --> 00:04:01,004 Why would anyone do this? They're good people! 78 00:04:01,006 --> 00:04:02,606 I don't know, Jamie, 79 00:04:02,608 --> 00:04:05,575 but we're gonna figure it out. 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,831 Nancy Blackburn and her husband, Ian, 81 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:18,664 were found in the trunk of their car Monday night. 82 00:04:18,666 --> 00:04:21,857 The car was parked outside their North Toronto home. 83 00:04:21,859 --> 00:04:24,149 A relative made the grim discovery. 84 00:04:24,151 --> 00:04:27,114 The Blackburns had not been seen in 6 days. 85 00:04:27,116 --> 00:04:28,705 They appeared to be nice people. 86 00:04:28,707 --> 00:04:32,832 Everybody seemed to like them. Ian had a real estate business. 87 00:04:32,834 --> 00:04:35,525 Nancy, on the other hand, was a public health nurse, 88 00:04:35,527 --> 00:04:37,116 working for the City of Toronto. 89 00:04:37,118 --> 00:04:39,608 They had no children. 90 00:04:39,610 --> 00:04:42,543 They lived in a nice neighbourhood. 91 00:04:42,545 --> 00:04:46,714 They were your average, normal Toronto downtown people. 92 00:04:46,716 --> 00:04:49,383 We would like to know the last time they were alive. 93 00:04:49,385 --> 00:04:51,475 That would help us to know the time of death. 94 00:04:51,477 --> 00:04:52,534 Police can't say 95 00:04:52,536 --> 00:04:55,336 where Mrs. Blackburn was murdered or when. 96 00:04:57,984 --> 00:05:00,886 The Blackburns owned another home in Caledon. 97 00:05:00,888 --> 00:05:04,323 A second family car was found in the driveway there. 98 00:05:04,325 --> 00:05:08,334 Police now say they don't know where the couple died. 99 00:05:08,336 --> 00:05:09,725 Was it in Toronto, 100 00:05:09,727 --> 00:05:11,860 where Nancy was last seen alive, 101 00:05:11,862 --> 00:05:15,030 or in Caledon, where Ian went to repair the plumbing 102 00:05:15,032 --> 00:05:17,666 in their historic country home? 103 00:05:20,332 --> 00:05:23,334 Caledon is a rural area north of Toronto. 104 00:05:25,222 --> 00:05:27,847 It was becoming an up-and-developing area 105 00:05:27,849 --> 00:05:29,849 where huge homes were being built. 106 00:05:31,956 --> 00:05:34,484 Ian and Nancy's farmhouse would be treated 107 00:05:34,486 --> 00:05:36,853 as a cottage retreat type of place. 108 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:41,957 It was a large property. 109 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:44,660 It was quiet. It was a nice place. 110 00:05:44,662 --> 00:05:47,362 Ian never parked there, you know. 111 00:05:47,364 --> 00:05:50,365 For 25 years, he parked over there. 112 00:05:50,367 --> 00:05:52,276 Uh-huh. You are? 113 00:05:52,278 --> 00:05:54,034 Orville Osborne. 114 00:05:54,036 --> 00:05:58,482 I'm married to Ian's sister. We share the property with them. 115 00:05:58,484 --> 00:06:00,340 Osborne. 116 00:06:00,342 --> 00:06:02,365 Your son found the victims. Jamie? 117 00:06:03,473 --> 00:06:05,682 That's right. Poor thing. 118 00:06:05,684 --> 00:06:07,586 Listen, if you don't mind my asking you, 119 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:09,484 why did you have him pop the trunk? 120 00:06:09,486 --> 00:06:12,711 Honestly, I... I don't know. We were desperate to find them. 121 00:06:12,713 --> 00:06:14,602 We hadn't heard from them all week. 122 00:06:14,604 --> 00:06:16,733 Then when I saw Ian's car parked there, 123 00:06:16,735 --> 00:06:19,161 that's when I knew something was wrong. 124 00:06:19,163 --> 00:06:22,798 But I never would have imagined... 125 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:26,535 I'm sorry for your loss. 126 00:06:28,137 --> 00:06:32,474 You know, Ian's father passed this whole area down to us 127 00:06:32,476 --> 00:06:34,476 after he died. 128 00:06:34,478 --> 00:06:36,745 It's a special place. 129 00:06:37,747 --> 00:06:39,848 See that round barn over there? 130 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:42,584 That was built in 1890. 131 00:06:44,253 --> 00:06:47,756 There's only 3 of them left in the whole province. 132 00:06:47,758 --> 00:06:50,759 You know why they built them that way? 133 00:06:50,761 --> 00:06:51,923 Why? 134 00:06:51,925 --> 00:06:54,863 So the devil couldn't back you into a corner. 135 00:06:54,865 --> 00:06:58,767 - Detective Grady. - Excuse me. 136 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:04,721 Was there any animus between the Blackburns and Orville 137 00:07:04,723 --> 00:07:08,610 over the land in that huge property up in Caledon? 138 00:07:08,612 --> 00:07:10,512 It was a possibility. 139 00:07:10,514 --> 00:07:12,781 Maybe there was a motive there. 140 00:07:12,783 --> 00:07:15,283 Hey! Jim Hutchinson. 141 00:07:15,285 --> 00:07:17,243 - Nice to meet you, Jim. - Call me Hut. 142 00:07:17,245 --> 00:07:19,788 The OPP forensic team 143 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:22,290 were going through that house piece by piece, 144 00:07:22,292 --> 00:07:25,227 the officers basically on their hands and knees, 145 00:07:25,229 --> 00:07:26,395 looking at everything. 146 00:07:26,397 --> 00:07:28,263 And that's when we found this. 147 00:07:31,234 --> 00:07:35,670 We tested it. It matches Nancy's blood. 148 00:07:39,309 --> 00:07:41,877 Boom! That was our crime scene. 149 00:07:43,546 --> 00:07:46,114 The tissue with the blood on it 150 00:07:46,116 --> 00:07:48,116 found in the front seat came back. 151 00:07:48,118 --> 00:07:50,986 It's not our victim's, so it could be the killer. 152 00:07:50,988 --> 00:07:54,055 Nancy had ligature marks consistent with strangulation, 153 00:07:54,057 --> 00:07:55,157 but not Ian. 154 00:07:55,159 --> 00:07:57,826 He died from a different form of asphyxia. 155 00:07:57,828 --> 00:07:59,795 They think he had a bag over his head. 156 00:07:59,797 --> 00:08:03,331 - What about sexual assault? - No evidence of it. 157 00:08:03,333 --> 00:08:06,424 God! He hog-tied her while she was still alive. 158 00:08:06,426 --> 00:08:09,128 Her arms were tied behind her back 159 00:08:09,130 --> 00:08:12,941 and her ankles were tied to the wrist. 160 00:08:12,943 --> 00:08:15,017 The severe wounds to her 161 00:08:15,019 --> 00:08:18,140 were such that she must have been in a lot of pain 162 00:08:18,142 --> 00:08:19,681 at that particular point. 163 00:08:19,683 --> 00:08:21,216 The person that did it 164 00:08:21,218 --> 00:08:25,086 was just throwing her around like a suitcase. 165 00:08:29,158 --> 00:08:31,159 So, now you basically go back 166 00:08:31,161 --> 00:08:34,763 and try and figure out where your victims were, 167 00:08:34,765 --> 00:08:36,198 what they were doing 168 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,768 at the last point that they were alive that you know of. 169 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:41,393 All right. 170 00:08:41,395 --> 00:08:44,986 Ian, last seen leaving work Tuesday night 5:00 p.m. 171 00:08:44,988 --> 00:08:46,906 He's going to Caledon to check on the cottage. 172 00:08:46,908 --> 00:08:48,798 Okay, this is Nancy's last activity. 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,724 She calls a friend from the Toronto home 174 00:08:51,726 --> 00:08:53,109 at 7:00 p.m. that night. 175 00:08:53,111 --> 00:08:55,183 She's looking for Ian. 176 00:08:55,185 --> 00:08:58,320 And check this out: phone records. 177 00:08:58,322 --> 00:09:01,278 Approximately one hour later, 7:56, 178 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,921 a 5-minute phone call from the cottage 179 00:09:03,923 --> 00:09:06,194 to the Toronto home. 180 00:09:06,196 --> 00:09:08,163 But after that, we got nothing. 181 00:09:08,165 --> 00:09:12,601 So what was said during that phone call? 182 00:09:12,603 --> 00:09:16,471 The interesting thing is that the phone call occurred 183 00:09:16,473 --> 00:09:18,009 and Nancy drove up there. 184 00:09:18,011 --> 00:09:20,565 We don't know if it was a request from Ian 185 00:09:20,567 --> 00:09:21,923 for her to come up 186 00:09:21,925 --> 00:09:24,546 or from the suspect. 187 00:09:24,548 --> 00:09:29,151 Why did that person have to have Nancy come to the cottage? 188 00:09:36,331 --> 00:09:40,334 Okay, is there a lot of crime in Caledon, 189 00:09:40,336 --> 00:09:42,937 murders, missing persons? 190 00:09:42,939 --> 00:09:44,038 Not usually. 191 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,583 But these 2 guns, they were stolen 192 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:49,711 from Blackburn's neighbour outside of Caledon. 193 00:09:49,713 --> 00:09:53,363 And Caroline Case, she's a Toronto woman, 194 00:09:53,365 --> 00:09:57,234 she, uh, went missing after she left her shop 6 months ago. 195 00:10:00,155 --> 00:10:01,789 What happened to her? 196 00:10:03,792 --> 00:10:06,584 47-year-old Caroline Case was last seen 197 00:10:06,586 --> 00:10:09,813 at her import store on Bloor Street West in Etobicoke. 198 00:10:09,815 --> 00:10:12,200 About 12 hours after she was reported missing, 199 00:10:12,202 --> 00:10:14,394 her wrecked Mercedes Benz station wagon 200 00:10:14,396 --> 00:10:17,353 was found in a ditch near Caledon, north of Metro. 201 00:10:17,355 --> 00:10:19,745 We, uh, searched the area for days. 202 00:10:19,747 --> 00:10:21,642 She's still missing. 203 00:10:21,644 --> 00:10:23,744 We had these 2 cases: 204 00:10:23,746 --> 00:10:26,714 the Blackburns, who were taken from Caledon 205 00:10:26,716 --> 00:10:28,849 and bodies are found in Toronto. 206 00:10:28,851 --> 00:10:33,220 And then we had Caroline Case abducted from Toronto 207 00:10:33,222 --> 00:10:36,090 and taken to Caledon. 208 00:10:37,092 --> 00:10:40,261 That was something we had to investigate further. 209 00:10:40,263 --> 00:10:41,418 Anything else? 210 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:43,646 We did have a series of break-ins over the winter. 211 00:10:43,648 --> 00:10:46,734 Some guy staying in vacant summer homes. 212 00:10:46,736 --> 00:10:48,988 - Did you ever ID the guy? - Nope. 213 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:51,591 We just call him the House Hermit. 214 00:10:51,593 --> 00:10:54,505 This person who was doing these break and enters... 215 00:10:54,507 --> 00:10:56,231 It seemed to be unusual, 216 00:10:56,233 --> 00:10:57,897 but it didn't seem to be violent. 217 00:10:57,899 --> 00:11:00,533 - We're gonna dig into that. - Okay. 218 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:03,402 I'm gonna focus on closing out the family. 219 00:11:04,404 --> 00:11:07,773 So, now we have to start answering the simple questions, 220 00:11:07,775 --> 00:11:09,357 Like: "Who would have a motive, 221 00:11:09,359 --> 00:11:11,359 opportunity or means to do this?" 222 00:11:14,381 --> 00:11:17,383 What you do in most investigations, 223 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:19,986 you start close to the family. 224 00:11:20,988 --> 00:11:23,513 There is something different about funerals 225 00:11:23,515 --> 00:11:25,725 where somebody is murdered. 226 00:11:25,727 --> 00:11:29,495 People will sometimes look around and wonder, 227 00:11:29,497 --> 00:11:31,163 "Is it you? Is it you?" 228 00:11:31,165 --> 00:11:32,732 'cause nobody knows. 229 00:11:32,734 --> 00:11:36,035 And I attended the Blackburns' funeral 230 00:11:36,037 --> 00:11:39,071 to see the reaction of people. 231 00:11:40,073 --> 00:11:42,875 Some people may feign remorse. 232 00:11:42,877 --> 00:11:44,844 Thank you for coming, detective. 233 00:11:44,846 --> 00:11:46,278 Of course. My condolences. 234 00:11:48,089 --> 00:11:51,214 My son can't shake the image 235 00:11:51,216 --> 00:11:53,519 of their bodies in the trunk. 236 00:11:54,521 --> 00:11:58,157 And my wife is devastated. 237 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:00,226 Ian was her brother. 238 00:12:00,228 --> 00:12:03,396 I don't know how to comfort them. 239 00:12:04,698 --> 00:12:06,732 I've seen cases where it's put on, 240 00:12:06,734 --> 00:12:08,734 and it's quite obvious. 241 00:12:08,736 --> 00:12:11,370 In this case, I didn't have that, 242 00:12:11,372 --> 00:12:13,105 because they're all decent people 243 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:14,448 who, unfortunately, found themselves 244 00:12:14,450 --> 00:12:16,742 in an awful, awful situation. 245 00:12:20,377 --> 00:12:21,834 At the same time, 246 00:12:21,836 --> 00:12:24,984 the officers who investigated all of these break and enters, 247 00:12:24,986 --> 00:12:28,487 they spoke to everybody who reported a break-in 248 00:12:28,489 --> 00:12:31,323 that we thought was related to the House Hermit. 249 00:12:31,325 --> 00:12:33,849 We found that there was a similar incident, 250 00:12:33,851 --> 00:12:34,927 not in Caledon, 251 00:12:34,929 --> 00:12:37,229 but in a place called Tiny Township, 252 00:12:37,231 --> 00:12:39,498 north of Caledon. 253 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,668 And Sam Appleton had a cottage up there. 254 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:44,841 We were just stopping by 255 00:12:44,843 --> 00:12:47,740 to see how this place weathered the winter. 256 00:12:47,742 --> 00:12:50,309 My wife, Rose, stayed in the car. 257 00:12:50,311 --> 00:12:53,012 As soon as I walked in the door, 258 00:12:53,014 --> 00:12:56,716 I noticed the TV cable was running up the stairs 259 00:12:56,718 --> 00:12:58,718 into the bedroom. 260 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,687 The door was closed. 261 00:13:01,689 --> 00:13:06,459 It was very warm in there, and the smell was horrible. 262 00:13:07,461 --> 00:13:11,897 Then from behind me, I hear: "Don't move or I'll shoot". 263 00:13:11,899 --> 00:13:14,133 And I see a gun. 264 00:13:14,135 --> 00:13:17,970 And then the man said: "Don't look at me". 265 00:13:17,972 --> 00:13:19,672 Can you describe the gun? 266 00:13:19,674 --> 00:13:21,707 I don't know, a, uh, a handgun. 267 00:13:22,843 --> 00:13:23,943 Then... 268 00:13:25,245 --> 00:13:29,048 he had me come back down the stairs 269 00:13:29,050 --> 00:13:32,118 and come lie down on the floor, 270 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,687 right there. 271 00:13:34,689 --> 00:13:37,790 Then he tells me he's coming back to Toronto with me. 272 00:13:37,792 --> 00:13:40,159 He says he's committed a bad fraud, 273 00:13:40,161 --> 00:13:42,194 and he doesn't want to go to jail. 274 00:13:42,196 --> 00:13:43,662 So we get in the car, 275 00:13:43,664 --> 00:13:46,263 me in front, driving with Rose, 276 00:13:46,265 --> 00:13:47,520 him in the back. 277 00:13:47,522 --> 00:13:49,802 - He didn't want to drive? - No. 278 00:13:49,804 --> 00:13:52,104 He insisted I drive. 279 00:13:52,106 --> 00:13:54,306 I acted like nothing was wrong. 280 00:13:54,308 --> 00:13:56,248 I told Rose that the guy 281 00:13:56,250 --> 00:13:58,878 was just getting a ride back to Toronto. 282 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,248 But she quickly realized what was going on. 283 00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:05,050 We come to a busy intersection. 284 00:14:05,052 --> 00:14:09,288 I said: "Either you shoot me here 285 00:14:09,290 --> 00:14:11,657 or get out now!" 286 00:14:12,659 --> 00:14:14,393 It must have scared him, 287 00:14:14,395 --> 00:14:17,863 because he just took our money and ran off. 288 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:22,916 Sam Appleton was a pretty gutsy individual. 289 00:14:22,918 --> 00:14:25,738 But his story helped me understand 290 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:29,241 what may have happened to the Blackburns. 291 00:14:30,944 --> 00:14:33,143 Uh, listen, do you think you could describe this guy 292 00:14:33,145 --> 00:14:34,613 to a sketch artist? 293 00:14:34,615 --> 00:14:37,016 Absolutely! 294 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,289 We now know the House Hermit was definitely armed. 295 00:14:43,291 --> 00:14:45,324 He's brazen. 296 00:14:45,326 --> 00:14:47,793 Is he a person who's now going to 297 00:14:47,795 --> 00:14:50,362 escalate his criminal behaviour? 298 00:14:50,364 --> 00:14:52,698 We had to find this person. 299 00:14:55,535 --> 00:14:58,404 I finally get a call from the duty desk. 300 00:14:59,539 --> 00:15:02,541 An officer had found weird garbage 301 00:15:02,543 --> 00:15:04,677 out by the Blackburn farmhouse. 302 00:15:04,679 --> 00:15:06,569 They having a picnic? 303 00:15:06,571 --> 00:15:09,939 No. But the House Hermit was. 304 00:15:12,619 --> 00:15:16,288 - I wouldn't touch that. - Why? What's in them? 305 00:15:16,290 --> 00:15:18,324 - Feces. - Oh God! 306 00:15:18,326 --> 00:15:22,061 These bottles were filled with urine. 307 00:15:22,063 --> 00:15:26,999 Urine in a bottle, fecal matter wrapped up... 308 00:15:27,001 --> 00:15:29,668 It was totally unusual. 309 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:32,438 Take a look at these. 310 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,974 These are the handwritten lists 311 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,509 he leaves behind everywhere else. 312 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,984 It's military equipment. It's pretty obscure stuff. 313 00:15:44,986 --> 00:15:49,573 War planes, tanks, cannons, firearms... 314 00:15:49,575 --> 00:15:53,406 It was like somebody was playing some type of war game 315 00:15:53,408 --> 00:15:54,573 against themselves. 316 00:15:56,563 --> 00:15:58,030 It was getting warm. 317 00:15:58,032 --> 00:16:01,300 So people were gonna be around their cottages. 318 00:16:01,302 --> 00:16:04,470 We were quite concerned about finding him 319 00:16:04,472 --> 00:16:06,872 before he could do something else. 320 00:16:12,935 --> 00:16:16,370 Investigators from the OPP had found 2 people 321 00:16:16,372 --> 00:16:19,140 who came across a man occupying their cottage. 322 00:16:19,142 --> 00:16:21,676 I hear: "Don't move or I'll shoot". 323 00:16:21,678 --> 00:16:23,845 Could you describe this guy to a sketch artist? 324 00:16:23,847 --> 00:16:25,580 Absolutely! 325 00:16:26,715 --> 00:16:29,517 We now had at least a sketch 326 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:32,320 of what the House Hermit may look like. 327 00:16:32,322 --> 00:16:35,556 This person is out there somewhere, 328 00:16:35,558 --> 00:16:38,059 and we can't identify who he is. 329 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,617 From the Appleton incident, 330 00:16:42,619 --> 00:16:45,515 we had fingerprints that were directly related 331 00:16:45,517 --> 00:16:46,757 to the House Hermit. 332 00:16:50,072 --> 00:16:54,709 We ran the prints through our national fingerprint database. 333 00:16:54,711 --> 00:16:56,711 And there is no result 334 00:16:56,713 --> 00:16:59,213 attributing it to anybody we know. 335 00:16:59,215 --> 00:17:04,018 How could his fingerprints not be on the national databank? 336 00:17:04,020 --> 00:17:06,520 This is somebody who's been exhibiting 337 00:17:06,522 --> 00:17:08,222 quite severe criminal behaviour. 338 00:17:10,215 --> 00:17:11,245 At this point, 339 00:17:11,247 --> 00:17:13,488 we believe the House Hermit 340 00:17:13,490 --> 00:17:15,982 is the one responsible for the Blackburns' murder. 341 00:17:15,984 --> 00:17:17,865 But we had no clue who he was. 342 00:17:17,867 --> 00:17:20,609 We gotta go public with this. 343 00:17:20,611 --> 00:17:22,334 - Tell them what? - Everything. 344 00:17:22,336 --> 00:17:23,869 Everything about the House Hermit: 345 00:17:23,871 --> 00:17:26,298 the break-ins, the sketch, even the strange military lists. 346 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:28,657 I mean, somebody's gotta recognize those, right? 347 00:17:28,659 --> 00:17:30,025 We gotta stop this guy! 348 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,280 We believe that the man who killed the Blackburns 349 00:17:35,282 --> 00:17:37,794 is also responsible for a series of cottage break-ins 350 00:17:37,796 --> 00:17:39,429 in the Caledon area. 351 00:17:39,431 --> 00:17:41,154 He's know to camp out in these cottages 352 00:17:41,156 --> 00:17:42,312 for several days at a time. 353 00:17:42,314 --> 00:17:44,201 So we call him the House Hermit. 354 00:17:44,203 --> 00:17:46,803 He always leaves behind these handwritten military lists, 355 00:17:46,805 --> 00:17:48,005 like a calling card. 356 00:17:48,007 --> 00:17:50,507 So for this reason, we think he's a military buff. 357 00:17:50,509 --> 00:17:54,395 Now, if you think you see him or if you think you know him, 358 00:17:54,397 --> 00:17:55,620 do not approach him. 359 00:17:55,622 --> 00:17:57,355 Call 911. 360 00:17:57,357 --> 00:18:00,591 He is armed and extremely dangerous. 361 00:18:00,593 --> 00:18:02,758 Usually, when you have a press conference 362 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,295 on a major homicide case, 363 00:18:04,297 --> 00:18:05,563 you can get 200 calls. 364 00:18:05,565 --> 00:18:10,334 In this particular case, we got one call. 365 00:18:10,336 --> 00:18:12,770 There was a woman in Orangeville, 366 00:18:12,772 --> 00:18:14,839 30 minutes north of Toronto, 367 00:18:14,841 --> 00:18:16,841 who had some information. 368 00:18:18,885 --> 00:18:20,284 Alison Shaw? 369 00:18:22,114 --> 00:18:24,282 I'm Detective Doug Grady, Metro Police. 370 00:18:27,019 --> 00:18:28,386 I understood on the phone 371 00:18:28,388 --> 00:18:31,622 that you know who the wanted man is in the Blackburn murders. 372 00:18:31,624 --> 00:18:33,891 Uh, yeah, it's David Snow. 373 00:18:34,958 --> 00:18:38,719 David ran a side business with my husband, Darris. 374 00:18:38,721 --> 00:18:41,588 And last fall, he disappeared and left us saddled with debt. 375 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:43,991 And so to recoup our debt, we cleared out his stuff. 376 00:18:43,993 --> 00:18:46,026 And that's when I saw the writings. 377 00:18:46,028 --> 00:18:50,130 They were military entries in a journal, hundreds of them. 378 00:18:50,132 --> 00:18:53,000 And the handwriting is exactly the same as what's in the paper. 379 00:18:53,002 --> 00:18:55,402 And you said that he disappeared last fall. 380 00:18:55,404 --> 00:18:57,071 Do you remember when exactly? 381 00:18:57,073 --> 00:18:59,106 Uh, some time in early October. 382 00:18:59,108 --> 00:19:01,575 No one around here has seen or heard from him since. 383 00:19:03,165 --> 00:19:04,487 Do you think David Snow 384 00:19:04,489 --> 00:19:06,237 would be capable of something like this? 385 00:19:06,239 --> 00:19:08,708 Oh, he is a creep. 386 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:11,851 Anything is possible with that guy. 387 00:19:11,853 --> 00:19:14,421 Okay. Thanks very much. 388 00:19:14,423 --> 00:19:18,577 David Snow was a friend of the family. 389 00:19:18,579 --> 00:19:20,501 Alison did not like him one bit, 390 00:19:20,503 --> 00:19:23,255 but her husband, Darris, thought that he was a good guy, 391 00:19:23,257 --> 00:19:24,431 just a little odd. 392 00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:27,287 We wanted to speak with Darris Shaw 393 00:19:27,289 --> 00:19:28,936 as soon as we could. 394 00:19:28,938 --> 00:19:31,739 I just don't see it, you know? 395 00:19:31,741 --> 00:19:35,209 David was a weird guy, but he was no killer. 396 00:19:35,211 --> 00:19:37,378 It's not what your wife thinks. 397 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:39,580 Well, we see him differently. 398 00:19:39,582 --> 00:19:42,282 Did she tell you he used to babysit our kids? 399 00:19:42,284 --> 00:19:44,852 Our daughter calls him Uncle David. 400 00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:48,722 He's just a regular, small-town guy. 401 00:19:48,724 --> 00:19:50,991 He's a bit odd, sure, misunderstood, 402 00:19:50,993 --> 00:19:52,826 but he's not violent. 403 00:19:52,828 --> 00:19:55,295 - So the two of you were close? - Yeah. 404 00:19:55,297 --> 00:19:56,630 We had a business together, 405 00:19:56,632 --> 00:19:58,265 taking apart old frame structures, 406 00:19:58,267 --> 00:19:59,566 putting them back together. 407 00:19:59,568 --> 00:20:01,335 The money was good too, 408 00:20:01,337 --> 00:20:04,038 until David took off, stuck me with $2,600 in debt. 409 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,140 Do you know where I might find David now? 410 00:20:06,142 --> 00:20:09,383 He's probably hiding out somewhere around here. 411 00:20:09,385 --> 00:20:12,142 No one's seen him in months, but he can't be far. 412 00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:13,606 Why is that? 413 00:20:13,608 --> 00:20:15,064 He just walks everywhere. 414 00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:18,418 He has a pathological fear of driving. 415 00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:21,522 Like I said, odd. 416 00:20:22,379 --> 00:20:24,368 One we identified David Snow, 417 00:20:24,370 --> 00:20:26,560 we started talking to people in Orangeville. 418 00:20:26,562 --> 00:20:30,397 A lot of the men said David was just a little off. 419 00:20:31,984 --> 00:20:36,577 Most of the women we talked to said he was creepy, 420 00:20:36,579 --> 00:20:38,172 said: "There was something about him. 421 00:20:38,174 --> 00:20:39,873 We didn't like being around him". 422 00:20:41,142 --> 00:20:43,744 He didn't do anything aggressive, 423 00:20:43,746 --> 00:20:44,878 as they would say, 424 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,848 but they just felt uncomfortable around him. 425 00:20:50,364 --> 00:20:53,766 We got that intuition from a lot of different women. 426 00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:59,760 He does have a record. 427 00:20:59,762 --> 00:21:01,885 Orangeville charged him with fraud last summer 428 00:21:01,887 --> 00:21:02,963 for writing bad cheques. 429 00:21:02,965 --> 00:21:04,458 That's what Appleton said. 430 00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:06,434 We ran the prints, nothing came back. 431 00:21:06,436 --> 00:21:08,421 They made a mistake. They thought they needed a conviction 432 00:21:08,423 --> 00:21:09,912 before they uploaded them. 433 00:21:09,914 --> 00:21:12,206 Regardless, the prints match! 434 00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:14,641 David Snow is the House Hermit. 435 00:21:14,643 --> 00:21:18,412 Yeah. Now all we need to do is find him. 436 00:21:22,016 --> 00:21:25,219 We needed to talk to David Snow's mother. 437 00:21:25,221 --> 00:21:28,455 I'm hoping she's gonna give us assistance in locating him. 438 00:21:28,457 --> 00:21:31,388 His mother lived in a nice neighbourhood 439 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:33,390 in the west end of Toronto. 440 00:21:37,132 --> 00:21:39,099 Caroline Case, 441 00:21:39,101 --> 00:21:41,935 she ran the Jewelled Elephant on Bloor, right? 442 00:21:41,937 --> 00:21:43,974 47-year-old Caroline Case 443 00:21:43,976 --> 00:21:46,065 was last seen at her import store 444 00:21:46,067 --> 00:21:47,841 on Bloor Street West in Etobicoke. 445 00:21:47,843 --> 00:21:51,300 Caroline Case, she's a Toronto woman. 446 00:21:51,302 --> 00:21:55,838 She, uh, went missing after she left her shop 6 months ago. 447 00:21:59,643 --> 00:22:01,070 Hi! Doug Grady. 448 00:22:01,072 --> 00:22:03,938 Listen, I'm staring at the Jewelled Elephant, 449 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:06,708 and you will never guess who lives right nearby it. 450 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:09,978 David Snow's mother. 451 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:14,382 I've met many mothers of victims and of accused, 452 00:22:14,384 --> 00:22:17,752 but I've never met a mother who said what she said. 453 00:22:22,458 --> 00:22:25,059 I'm terrified of him. 454 00:22:26,061 --> 00:22:28,363 I'm so sorry, Mrs. Snow. 455 00:22:28,365 --> 00:22:32,266 - Do you still see him? - Not really. 456 00:22:32,268 --> 00:22:35,224 The last time I saw him was last fall, 457 00:22:35,226 --> 00:22:39,529 uh, just after his antiques business had fallen apart. 458 00:22:42,077 --> 00:22:43,545 I was so scared. 459 00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,180 Before he came... 460 00:22:49,385 --> 00:22:52,020 I hid all the sharp knives. 461 00:22:55,124 --> 00:22:58,593 Did, um, did David ever physically harm you? 462 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:01,285 Yes. 463 00:23:01,287 --> 00:23:03,010 That was the reason 464 00:23:03,012 --> 00:23:05,879 that I had to leave the house in Orangeville, 465 00:23:05,881 --> 00:23:08,814 the house where he still lives. 466 00:23:08,816 --> 00:23:11,206 She was afraid of her own son. 467 00:23:11,208 --> 00:23:14,631 She kept that house so he'd live in it, 468 00:23:14,633 --> 00:23:17,367 and he wouldn't come live with her. 469 00:23:21,517 --> 00:23:24,352 He grew up in that house. The whole family did. 470 00:23:25,421 --> 00:23:29,123 One by one, we all left. 471 00:23:35,431 --> 00:23:40,301 Everybody in the family was tiptoeing around David. 472 00:23:41,152 --> 00:23:43,442 You know: "Leave him alone. 473 00:23:43,444 --> 00:23:45,306 Just let him do what he's doing". 474 00:23:46,308 --> 00:23:50,478 Police! We're coming in! 475 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,082 When I left the house, it was because of the abuse. 476 00:23:55,150 --> 00:23:57,118 It was a nightmare. 477 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,490 She had hope that he didn't kill those people. 478 00:24:02,492 --> 00:24:05,460 But she didn't doubt for a second that he did. 479 00:24:13,335 --> 00:24:17,238 David's mother confirmed that he attended her place 480 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,940 in early October, 481 00:24:18,942 --> 00:24:21,643 the date just before Caroline Case went missing. 482 00:24:21,645 --> 00:24:23,945 Hello? Mr. Snow? 483 00:24:25,082 --> 00:24:26,749 - Get the kitchen. - Yeah. 484 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:36,824 Clear. 485 00:24:38,394 --> 00:24:39,694 Clear. 486 00:24:46,935 --> 00:24:49,237 Go, go, go. 487 00:24:54,877 --> 00:24:56,244 Clear. 488 00:25:47,652 --> 00:25:49,652 Go, go, go. 489 00:25:50,638 --> 00:25:53,073 We're looking for David Snow. 490 00:25:54,742 --> 00:25:58,679 I believe David Snow is the one responsible for the murders 491 00:25:58,681 --> 00:26:02,249 of Caroline Case and the Blackburns. 492 00:26:02,251 --> 00:26:03,851 We go in his house. 493 00:26:03,853 --> 00:26:07,855 It looks like somebody hasn't lived there for quite some time. 494 00:26:12,093 --> 00:26:14,261 Here. Hold this. 495 00:26:25,874 --> 00:26:28,275 We found a hidden room. 496 00:26:31,613 --> 00:26:33,547 You should get in here. 497 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:46,042 Oh! 498 00:26:46,044 --> 00:26:49,470 There's various pictures from catalogues, 499 00:26:49,472 --> 00:26:51,495 cut-outs of women, 500 00:26:51,497 --> 00:26:52,986 but not quite pornography. 501 00:26:52,988 --> 00:26:54,839 It was a bit odd. 502 00:26:54,841 --> 00:26:56,964 And it told us a little bit 503 00:26:56,966 --> 00:26:59,900 about this person's psychological side. 504 00:27:02,575 --> 00:27:07,602 There's all kinds of military books with military equipment. 505 00:27:07,604 --> 00:27:10,872 Ships, tanks, planes all over the house. 506 00:27:15,984 --> 00:27:20,922 We don't know where he is or what he's going to do next. 507 00:27:20,924 --> 00:27:22,624 He's definitely on the run. 508 00:27:24,028 --> 00:27:27,730 So, we put out a Canada-wide warrant for his arrest. 509 00:27:27,732 --> 00:27:31,166 Police say David Snow does not drive. 510 00:27:31,168 --> 00:27:35,304 They believe he is in hiding in the Caledon area. 511 00:27:36,813 --> 00:27:38,970 - He is armed and dangerous. - _ 512 00:27:38,972 --> 00:27:42,763 As predators escalate, they become more dangerous. 513 00:27:42,765 --> 00:27:44,232 And he was escalating. 514 00:27:45,434 --> 00:27:47,835 So where would he go from there? 515 00:27:54,309 --> 00:27:56,944 "Police are looking for anyone 516 00:27:56,946 --> 00:28:00,882 who may have seen Christina Robinson last Friday". 517 00:28:03,285 --> 00:28:05,520 And they're never gonna find you. 518 00:28:30,317 --> 00:28:32,975 We just got another report on the House Hermit 519 00:28:32,977 --> 00:28:34,014 from Caledon. 520 00:28:34,016 --> 00:28:37,240 The owners just got back from a winter in Venezuela. 521 00:28:37,242 --> 00:28:39,632 This doesn't help. None of this helps! 522 00:28:39,634 --> 00:28:41,203 It just confirms what we already know. 523 00:28:41,205 --> 00:28:42,528 We need to know where he is now! 524 00:28:42,530 --> 00:28:43,953 I mean, he may still be in Ontario. 525 00:28:43,955 --> 00:28:46,411 He could also be anywhere in the country. 526 00:28:46,413 --> 00:28:50,920 All right, let's send out everything we have on Snow: 527 00:28:50,922 --> 00:28:53,741 the fingerprints, the military writings, 528 00:28:53,743 --> 00:28:55,709 the serial numbers of every gun he stole. 529 00:28:55,711 --> 00:28:57,527 And, I mean, he's not just sitting around hiding. 530 00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:59,629 We need every police agency in the country 531 00:28:59,631 --> 00:29:01,856 to know everything that could possibly identify him, 532 00:29:01,858 --> 00:29:03,306 because he's gonna do this again. 533 00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:05,441 And when he does, we need to know about it. 534 00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:07,410 All right. I'm on it. 535 00:29:11,415 --> 00:29:13,472 The whole time we're looking for him 536 00:29:13,474 --> 00:29:15,585 in the Greater Toronto Area... 537 00:29:16,787 --> 00:29:18,821 unbeknownst to us, 538 00:29:18,823 --> 00:29:21,015 we find that he was out in British Columbia 539 00:29:21,017 --> 00:29:22,039 the entire time. 540 00:29:22,041 --> 00:29:24,041 _ 541 00:29:26,864 --> 00:29:28,631 What's happening? 542 00:29:33,604 --> 00:29:34,804 Wait here. 543 00:29:38,375 --> 00:29:42,212 Eight days ago, she closed up for work at 6:00 544 00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:44,905 at this East Vancouver photography studio 545 00:29:44,907 --> 00:29:46,724 and disappeared. 546 00:29:46,726 --> 00:29:48,515 This is a classic, 547 00:29:48,517 --> 00:29:51,051 unexplainable missing persons case. 548 00:29:51,053 --> 00:29:54,132 There appears to be no reasonable explanation 549 00:29:54,134 --> 00:29:56,802 as to why this young lady has gone missing. 550 00:30:14,787 --> 00:30:16,822 Move. 551 00:30:24,356 --> 00:30:27,925 I found her at a video store. 552 00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:30,795 You like? 553 00:30:53,593 --> 00:30:54,793 During that time, 554 00:30:54,795 --> 00:30:57,195 a video store clerk goes missing, 555 00:30:57,197 --> 00:31:00,999 and the RCMP find the car in Mount Seymour Park. 556 00:31:05,371 --> 00:31:07,806 I've got a Beetle in Mount Seymour Park. 557 00:31:07,808 --> 00:31:10,442 License plate matches the missing one. 558 00:31:21,882 --> 00:31:25,118 In the car, they found a firearm that was stolen... 559 00:31:26,591 --> 00:31:28,248 from Caledon. 560 00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:31,750 That's how we knew it was David Snow who had that car 561 00:31:31,752 --> 00:31:33,285 and was in that area. 562 00:32:14,719 --> 00:32:16,251 There's another woman! 563 00:32:16,253 --> 00:32:18,253 - Where? - Over there. 564 00:32:32,435 --> 00:32:34,570 Hey! Are you okay? 565 00:32:37,207 --> 00:32:38,741 The women are rescued. 566 00:32:38,743 --> 00:32:42,911 And Snow takes off further into that Mount Seymour forest. 567 00:32:42,913 --> 00:32:46,156 And so, RCMP North Vancouver 568 00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:49,218 conducted the largest manhunt they've ever done. 569 00:32:52,223 --> 00:32:54,946 They're searching the forest and its maze of trails 570 00:32:54,948 --> 00:32:56,892 for one suspect. 571 00:32:56,894 --> 00:32:58,930 Stay there. 572 00:32:58,932 --> 00:33:02,191 They brought in as many officers as they could, 573 00:33:02,193 --> 00:33:04,977 because this guy was now out in an area 574 00:33:04,979 --> 00:33:08,270 that is heavily travelled by a lot of people. 575 00:33:08,272 --> 00:33:10,958 All vehicles leaving the park are being searched. 576 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,561 All entrances into the area are closed. 577 00:33:13,563 --> 00:33:15,926 So, at the same time, 578 00:33:15,928 --> 00:33:18,555 I get the first plane that's flying out west 579 00:33:18,557 --> 00:33:20,557 and go to Vancouver. 580 00:33:31,813 --> 00:33:33,547 He never untied you? 581 00:33:33,549 --> 00:33:37,651 Once, when he kidnapped the other woman. 582 00:33:37,653 --> 00:33:42,089 He walked me to the car and he told me to wait for him. 583 00:33:44,109 --> 00:33:46,600 I was alone and untied. 584 00:33:46,602 --> 00:33:50,330 And I could have walked away. 585 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:52,600 Why didn't you? 586 00:33:54,569 --> 00:33:56,637 I didn't know where he was. 587 00:33:57,806 --> 00:34:01,609 I didn't want to get shot. I was terrified. 588 00:34:02,611 --> 00:34:05,980 I remember thinking to myself that: 589 00:34:05,982 --> 00:34:08,282 "This is the end". 590 00:34:09,418 --> 00:34:11,118 "He's gonna kill me". 591 00:34:14,289 --> 00:34:16,457 I'm so sorry I have to ask this. 592 00:34:16,459 --> 00:34:17,491 Um... 593 00:34:21,796 --> 00:34:23,697 Is this the guy? 594 00:34:32,375 --> 00:34:34,341 That's him. Yeah. 595 00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:40,814 He felt like a very... 596 00:34:41,601 --> 00:34:43,069 sick kid... 597 00:34:44,653 --> 00:34:46,553 and I was his toy. 598 00:34:48,123 --> 00:34:51,525 I was just something for him to play with. 599 00:34:51,527 --> 00:34:53,727 He had no conscience. 600 00:34:55,664 --> 00:34:59,900 He had held her captive and tied up for 8 days. 601 00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:05,281 I was amazed by how she had gotten through this 602 00:35:05,283 --> 00:35:06,407 and survived it. 603 00:35:06,409 --> 00:35:09,009 She was a strong young woman. 604 00:35:12,013 --> 00:35:14,915 It's believed the suspect had been camping out 605 00:35:14,917 --> 00:35:16,458 in this dense parkland. 606 00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:18,387 Police believe he's still here, 607 00:35:18,389 --> 00:35:21,322 trapped within countless roadblocks. 608 00:35:21,324 --> 00:35:26,444 RCMP conduct a search throughout this particular park. 609 00:35:26,446 --> 00:35:29,147 And all night long, it's going on. 610 00:35:29,149 --> 00:35:30,531 They have helicopters. 611 00:35:32,033 --> 00:35:36,503 These are huge parks with lots of forest areas... 612 00:35:37,362 --> 00:35:40,765 within David Snow's comfort zone. 613 00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:44,845 And so he got to the Suspension Bridge restaurant, 614 00:35:44,847 --> 00:35:46,847 which is in the Capilano Park, 615 00:35:46,849 --> 00:35:51,518 and saw that there was somebody closing up the restaurant. 616 00:35:53,289 --> 00:35:55,522 So he took her to the back, 617 00:35:55,524 --> 00:35:58,525 not knowing the police were in the area. 618 00:36:01,129 --> 00:36:05,733 And the officer hears movement behind the building. 619 00:36:08,737 --> 00:36:09,903 Police! 620 00:36:29,491 --> 00:36:32,626 David Snow was caught in the act, 621 00:36:32,628 --> 00:36:36,497 sexually assaulting and attempting to murder a woman. 622 00:36:42,153 --> 00:36:43,243 An ambulance came, 623 00:36:43,245 --> 00:36:45,445 took her to the hospital right away. 624 00:36:46,841 --> 00:36:49,176 And she survived this incident. 625 00:36:51,179 --> 00:36:54,615 Anything to say, Mr. Snow? Anything to say? 626 00:36:54,617 --> 00:36:58,419 A dramatic story unfolding in British Columbia tonight, 627 00:36:58,421 --> 00:37:00,818 revolving around this man, David Snow. 628 00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,154 Police arrested him yesterday 629 00:37:03,156 --> 00:37:06,093 after a manhunt that chased him out of the mountains 630 00:37:06,095 --> 00:37:07,594 around North Vancouver. 631 00:37:07,596 --> 00:37:09,963 They accused him of kidnapping 2 women 632 00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:11,665 and trying to kill a third. 633 00:37:12,667 --> 00:37:14,501 You're not happy to see him. 634 00:37:14,503 --> 00:37:16,003 It's not a job satisfaction, 635 00:37:16,005 --> 00:37:17,638 like, "Okay, now we've got you", 636 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,874 because you're still working on your case all the way through. 637 00:37:40,728 --> 00:37:44,031 I've already spoken to my lawyer. 638 00:37:44,033 --> 00:37:46,133 I have nothing to say to you. 639 00:37:47,902 --> 00:37:50,370 When you're sitting across from a murderer 640 00:37:50,372 --> 00:37:52,072 and you're asking questions, 641 00:37:52,074 --> 00:37:53,846 there's only one person in that room 642 00:37:53,848 --> 00:37:55,237 that knows everything, 643 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,012 and it's not you. 644 00:37:57,014 --> 00:37:59,880 So we thought: "Okay. Let's throw everything out. 645 00:37:59,882 --> 00:38:01,882 Let's just see what sticks". 646 00:38:03,118 --> 00:38:04,618 Okay, but, um... 647 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:08,188 there's just one thing I... I want to know. 648 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:09,990 Okay? 649 00:38:09,992 --> 00:38:13,093 What did you have Ian say to Nancy on the phone that night 650 00:38:13,095 --> 00:38:15,362 to convince her to come up to the cottage? 651 00:38:19,868 --> 00:38:22,803 All right, well, that's fine, David, 652 00:38:22,805 --> 00:38:25,172 because we know about everything else you did. 653 00:38:25,174 --> 00:38:27,608 You've made it quite easy for us, actually. 654 00:38:27,610 --> 00:38:32,246 We know that you killed Ian and Nancy Blackburn. 655 00:38:33,882 --> 00:38:36,283 We had the DNA in the tissue 656 00:38:36,285 --> 00:38:38,819 matching up with David Snow's DNA. 657 00:38:38,821 --> 00:38:40,254 It was a perfect match. 658 00:38:40,256 --> 00:38:44,391 That was basically the nail in his coffin, so to speak. 659 00:38:45,393 --> 00:38:47,961 Caroline Case. 660 00:38:47,963 --> 00:38:52,099 We know that you spotted her after visiting your mom one day. 661 00:38:52,101 --> 00:38:54,635 We know that you took her from her store. 662 00:38:54,637 --> 00:38:56,904 We know you made her drive you home. 663 00:39:00,575 --> 00:39:03,043 I'm gonna tell you everything, 664 00:39:03,045 --> 00:39:05,646 but I need a guarantee. 665 00:39:08,883 --> 00:39:10,984 What guarantee? 666 00:39:10,986 --> 00:39:15,722 I don't get a day over 25 years. 667 00:39:20,214 --> 00:39:22,939 I didn't want to make a deal with a killer 668 00:39:22,941 --> 00:39:25,910 and allow him a sentence that I felt was unfair 669 00:39:25,912 --> 00:39:27,334 for what he did, 670 00:39:27,336 --> 00:39:30,136 and that is life in jail, 671 00:39:30,138 --> 00:39:33,898 opportunity for parole after 25 years, 672 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,411 but not an outright deal where it's 25 and done. 673 00:39:39,247 --> 00:39:42,316 We're going to put you away for a long, long time, David. 674 00:39:46,354 --> 00:39:49,189 We felt so adamant 675 00:39:49,191 --> 00:39:52,761 that we wanted to find Caroline Case 676 00:39:52,763 --> 00:39:55,322 and that David Snow was responsible for her murder. 677 00:39:55,324 --> 00:39:57,930 There was no doubt in our mind. 678 00:39:57,932 --> 00:40:01,101 He is a reasonable suspect in the Caroline Case matter. 679 00:40:01,103 --> 00:40:04,438 We asked the OPP to do another search in that field 680 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,440 where the car had been overturned. 681 00:40:06,442 --> 00:40:11,445 Today, a convoy of cars carrying up to 100 officers 682 00:40:11,447 --> 00:40:12,893 moved into the area 683 00:40:12,895 --> 00:40:16,363 to conduct a blade-by-blade search of the grass. 684 00:40:18,325 --> 00:40:20,116 Police found the remains 685 00:40:20,118 --> 00:40:23,156 to missing business woman Caroline Case. 686 00:40:24,158 --> 00:40:25,692 There was an autopsy, 687 00:40:25,694 --> 00:40:30,297 but there wasn't enough evidence to relate back to David Snow. 688 00:40:32,367 --> 00:40:36,103 I'm convinced that David Snow killed Caroline Case. 689 00:40:36,105 --> 00:40:41,074 But me being convinced is not enough. 690 00:40:41,076 --> 00:40:43,467 The fate of the man nicknamed the House Hermit 691 00:40:43,469 --> 00:40:45,245 is now in the jury's hands. 692 00:40:45,247 --> 00:40:47,214 What we could do is only convict him 693 00:40:47,216 --> 00:40:48,715 for what we actually had. 694 00:40:48,717 --> 00:40:51,059 And we had him for the Blackburns, 695 00:40:51,061 --> 00:40:53,029 and so that's the ones we charged him with, 696 00:40:53,031 --> 00:40:54,721 and that's the ones we could prove. 697 00:40:54,723 --> 00:40:57,074 The Crown says the most important piece of evidence 698 00:40:57,076 --> 00:41:00,900 is a bloody tissue found in Nancy Blackburn's car. 699 00:41:00,902 --> 00:41:04,765 The stained tissue contains Snow's DNA. 700 00:41:04,767 --> 00:41:06,525 The only way we can properly speak 701 00:41:06,527 --> 00:41:08,398 for Ian and Nancy Blackburn 702 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,800 is to have a conviction in the end. 703 00:41:11,906 --> 00:41:15,475 As the verdict was read out, Snow had no reaction, 704 00:41:15,477 --> 00:41:19,046 simply staring downwards, never looking at the jury. 705 00:41:19,048 --> 00:41:22,115 Life in prison with no chance of parole. 706 00:41:22,117 --> 00:41:24,918 We got a conviction for Ian and Nancy. 707 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,256 Unfortunately, we couldn't do it for some other victims. 708 00:41:29,258 --> 00:41:31,468 Asked by the judge if he had any words, 709 00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:34,377 Snow mumbled: "I've got nothing to say". 710 00:41:34,379 --> 00:41:37,903 I don't think he feels bad about anything he's done. 711 00:41:37,905 --> 00:41:39,833 He's a psychopath. 712 00:41:39,835 --> 00:41:43,058 And I think feeling guilty 713 00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:44,867 is something he's not capable of. 714 00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:47,073 I've had the occasion to be close to him 715 00:41:47,075 --> 00:41:50,193 and stare him right in the eye, and it's just a blank stare. 716 00:41:50,195 --> 00:41:51,912 There just doesn't seem to be anything there. 717 00:41:51,914 --> 00:41:55,449 Ian Blackburn's sister says: "Justice has been served". 718 00:41:55,451 --> 00:41:58,319 It's been a long 6 months waiting for this to come. 719 00:41:58,321 --> 00:41:59,443 And we're so thrilled 720 00:41:59,445 --> 00:42:02,403 that we finally have a verdict we all wanted. 721 00:42:02,405 --> 00:42:05,726 It's done. We're finished with this guy. 722 00:42:05,728 --> 00:42:10,163 He's now going to a place that is better than what he deserves. 723 00:42:10,165 --> 00:42:12,299 But it's finished. 724 00:42:14,757 --> 00:42:19,757 _ 725 00:42:20,645 --> 00:42:25,645 _ 726 00:42:26,414 --> 00:42:30,414 _ 727 00:42:32,493 --> 00:42:35,516 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 728 00:42:35,518 --> 00:42:40,828 _ 729 00:42:43,248 --> 00:42:49,548 _ 730 00:42:52,365 --> 00:42:57,565 _ 54501

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