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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,833 --> 00:00:02,767 It's late 2013. 2 00:00:03,769 --> 00:00:07,606 We had spent the vast majority of the previous year 3 00:00:07,608 --> 00:00:10,830 investigating the disappearances of 3 brown-skinned men 4 00:00:10,832 --> 00:00:12,811 from the Gay Village in Toronto. 5 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:16,448 The Brunton angle was a very difficult investigation. 6 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:19,684 Said he killed this guy and he killed that guy 7 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:21,720 and that he ate them. 8 00:00:21,722 --> 00:00:25,724 Really delving into a very bizarre world 9 00:00:25,726 --> 00:00:28,193 of the cannibalism fetish. 10 00:00:28,195 --> 00:00:30,562 Wait, so you think that Luka Magnotta is Nathan? 11 00:00:30,564 --> 00:00:33,331 Magnotta was in Toronto at the right time. 12 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:37,802 And he was referring to himself as a cannibal serial killer. 13 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:41,339 Exposing myself and a lot of the officers 14 00:00:41,341 --> 00:00:44,809 to some material that we'll never unsee. 15 00:00:44,811 --> 00:00:48,166 But we couldn't say any of these men had been murdered, 16 00:00:48,168 --> 00:00:50,916 because we had no evidence that they had been murdered. 17 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,189 I found another person connected to two of our men. 18 00:00:53,191 --> 00:00:55,324 He goes by Silverfoxx51. 19 00:00:59,623 --> 00:01:02,623 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 20 00:01:14,305 --> 00:01:15,328 _ 21 00:01:15,330 --> 00:01:18,133 Looking for connections between our 3 missing men 22 00:01:18,135 --> 00:01:20,934 had become the focus of Project Houston. 23 00:01:20,936 --> 00:01:22,587 _ 24 00:01:22,588 --> 00:01:25,583 We need to know if these 3 guys are connected. 25 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:28,412 I've been reviewing the victims' computers and cell phones. 26 00:01:28,414 --> 00:01:30,837 Any name appearing in more than one goes up here. 27 00:01:30,839 --> 00:01:32,640 This way, we can speak with each of them, 28 00:01:32,642 --> 00:01:34,239 find out how they know the missing men 29 00:01:34,241 --> 00:01:36,098 and how they might be connected. 30 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:38,943 We had computers belonging to two of the victims. 31 00:01:38,945 --> 00:01:44,269 And we had obtained usernames of associates on those computers 32 00:01:44,271 --> 00:01:47,939 when we were identifying them and reaching out to them. 33 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:49,640 It's a good start, but not enough. 34 00:01:49,642 --> 00:01:51,865 Coffey's focusing on their digital life. 35 00:01:51,867 --> 00:01:52,989 For all the rest of you, 36 00:01:52,991 --> 00:01:54,947 I need you to go out in the community 37 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:56,167 and talk to people. 38 00:01:56,169 --> 00:01:58,706 Add anyone to this list that knows more than one of them. 39 00:01:58,708 --> 00:02:01,832 We launched a public awareness campaign. 40 00:02:01,834 --> 00:02:03,223 It was the first time 41 00:02:03,225 --> 00:02:06,282 anybody had connected all 3 victims publicly. 42 00:02:06,284 --> 00:02:08,793 Concern is growing in the Village tonight 43 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:11,763 as police look for leads in the disappearance of 3 men. 44 00:02:11,765 --> 00:02:14,419 Police from 51 Division were canvassing today, 45 00:02:14,421 --> 00:02:17,012 hoping these posters will jog someone's memory 46 00:02:17,014 --> 00:02:19,938 in a strange case of 3 missing men 47 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,424 whose only connection seems to be this neighbourhood. 48 00:02:23,426 --> 00:02:25,089 We wanted those faces out there. 49 00:02:25,091 --> 00:02:28,113 And we wanted anybody with any information whatsoever 50 00:02:28,115 --> 00:02:30,337 to contact us, no matter how small. 51 00:02:30,339 --> 00:02:31,861 Someone must've seen something. 52 00:02:31,863 --> 00:02:34,986 Police say this is a missing persons investigation. 53 00:02:34,988 --> 00:02:37,155 It was the lead story on all the news. 54 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:38,990 Some people came forward, 55 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:42,260 but we were still left with nobody had any idea 56 00:02:42,262 --> 00:02:44,462 what had happened to any of them. 57 00:02:46,132 --> 00:02:49,968 Meanwhile, on our end, Debbie developed a theory. 58 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:52,037 I've got another angle. 59 00:02:52,911 --> 00:02:54,201 Nathan. 60 00:02:54,203 --> 00:02:56,693 During the Brunton investigation, 61 00:02:56,695 --> 00:03:00,378 we had discovered an associate of Brunton named Nathan. 62 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:02,147 Think you know who Nathan is? 63 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:05,773 When Brunton met Nathan, he was stripping at Remington's. 64 00:03:05,775 --> 00:03:06,798 Who's Nathan? 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,488 Just a stripper I knew. Sort of a messed up kid. 66 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:12,490 Montreal just arrested a guy 67 00:03:12,492 --> 00:03:14,492 who used to strip at Remington's. 68 00:03:14,494 --> 00:03:17,996 The man accused of a gruesome murder in Montreal 69 00:03:17,998 --> 00:03:21,199 made his first appearance in a Canadian court today. 70 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:24,269 Luka Magnotta was returned to Canada in a military... 71 00:03:24,271 --> 00:03:26,471 Luka Magnotta is infamous 72 00:03:26,473 --> 00:03:30,141 for hooking up with a gay Chinese male in Montreal 73 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:33,178 and taking him back to his place 74 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:36,686 and filming him as he killed him and dismembered him 75 00:03:36,688 --> 00:03:39,749 and had mailed body parts of his victim 76 00:03:39,751 --> 00:03:41,899 to various addresses around the country. 77 00:03:41,901 --> 00:03:44,625 It's the latest twist in this horror story. 78 00:03:44,627 --> 00:03:46,076 The hand and foot delivered 79 00:03:46,078 --> 00:03:48,243 to 2 Vancouver elementary schools yesterday 80 00:03:48,245 --> 00:03:50,602 belonged to 33-year-old Jun Lin. 81 00:03:50,604 --> 00:03:53,628 Luka Magnotta was nabbed in Germany today 82 00:03:53,630 --> 00:03:55,937 after a worldwide police search 83 00:03:55,939 --> 00:03:59,204 that reached into 190 countries. 84 00:03:59,206 --> 00:04:02,006 Wait, so you think that Luka Magnotta is Nathan? 85 00:04:02,008 --> 00:04:04,271 When Brunton met Nathan in 2003, 86 00:04:04,273 --> 00:04:06,010 Magnotta was living in Peterborough, 87 00:04:06,012 --> 00:04:08,175 just a short walk from Brunton's home. 88 00:04:08,177 --> 00:04:10,800 Where was Magnotta when Skanda went missing in 2010? 89 00:04:10,802 --> 00:04:13,826 According to our records, he was right here in Toronto. 90 00:04:13,828 --> 00:04:15,353 And look at this. 91 00:04:15,355 --> 00:04:18,357 Magnotta said he was in a relationship with an older man 92 00:04:18,359 --> 00:04:20,625 that paid him to lure other men. 93 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:24,053 What if Brunton got Magnotta interested in cannibalism, 94 00:04:24,055 --> 00:04:26,364 and then Magnotta took it all the way? 95 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:29,968 There were too many similarities and ties 96 00:04:29,970 --> 00:04:32,203 between Magnotta and Brunton. 97 00:04:32,205 --> 00:04:34,907 It's all hitting a little too close to home 98 00:04:34,909 --> 00:04:38,433 with what we already knew about that bizarre world 99 00:04:38,435 --> 00:04:39,824 of the cannibalism fetish. 100 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:42,840 It needed to be investigated. 101 00:04:42,842 --> 00:04:44,732 Magnotta used aliases online. 102 00:04:44,734 --> 00:04:46,256 Here's one of his dating profiles. 103 00:04:46,258 --> 00:04:48,012 "I live in Canada. 104 00:04:48,014 --> 00:04:50,184 And I'm looking for a serious relationship 105 00:04:50,186 --> 00:04:51,723 with a Middle Eastern man. 106 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:53,182 I love Middle Eastern men. 107 00:04:53,184 --> 00:04:55,226 Email me and send me your pics". 108 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:58,763 Faizi and Kayhan are Middle Eastern. 109 00:04:59,691 --> 00:05:01,099 Posted June, 2010. 110 00:05:01,101 --> 00:05:03,769 Right before the disappearances started. 111 00:05:03,771 --> 00:05:05,403 I also found this video online, 112 00:05:05,405 --> 00:05:08,973 titled "Cannibal Serial Killer Luka Magnotta". 113 00:05:14,513 --> 00:05:17,585 Magnotta was in Toronto at the right time. 114 00:05:17,587 --> 00:05:19,597 He was looking for Middle Eastern men. 115 00:05:19,599 --> 00:05:23,634 And he was referring to himself as a cannibal serial killer. 116 00:05:25,297 --> 00:05:28,155 Yeah, we have to talk to this guy. 117 00:05:28,157 --> 00:05:29,923 - Go to Montreal? - Yeah. 118 00:05:36,302 --> 00:05:39,103 - We ended up travelling to Montreal. - _ 119 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:42,607 And Debbie met with the lead investigator. 120 00:05:42,609 --> 00:05:44,976 We think Magnotta may be involved 121 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:46,945 in our missing-persons case. 122 00:05:46,947 --> 00:05:48,780 And what makes you think that? 123 00:05:48,782 --> 00:05:51,783 We think our victims were cannibalized. 124 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:54,986 We zeroed in on a suspect out of Peterborough 125 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:56,955 who had a cannibalism fetish. 126 00:05:56,957 --> 00:05:59,490 He was friends with another cannibal, 127 00:05:59,492 --> 00:06:03,209 a stripper from the Village who worked at Remington's. 128 00:06:03,211 --> 00:06:05,122 His name is Nathan. 129 00:06:07,566 --> 00:06:10,068 Nathan? Where did you get Nathan? 130 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:12,036 You're familiar with that? 131 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:14,706 Yes, from Magnotta's text messages. 132 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:17,881 He calls himself Nathan, but no one knows that. 133 00:06:17,883 --> 00:06:19,844 We never released it. 134 00:06:19,846 --> 00:06:22,895 Nobody knew then what Montreal Police knew. 135 00:06:22,897 --> 00:06:24,452 And that was the fact that 136 00:06:24,454 --> 00:06:27,919 Luka Magnotta also went by the alias of Nathan. 137 00:06:27,921 --> 00:06:30,021 So as soon as Debbie brought that up, 138 00:06:30,023 --> 00:06:32,824 they thought we were onto something. 139 00:06:39,383 --> 00:06:41,506 The video was shot in his apartment. 140 00:06:41,508 --> 00:06:42,931 There's a video. 141 00:06:42,933 --> 00:06:47,538 It depicts the murder of Jun Lin by Luka Magnotta. 142 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:49,841 It's very graphic. 143 00:06:49,843 --> 00:06:52,343 Stop the video, please. 144 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:56,481 And I'm even loathe to describe it here 145 00:06:56,483 --> 00:06:58,773 out of respect, A, for the victim, 146 00:06:58,775 --> 00:07:02,420 and out of respect for somebody who may be watching this. 147 00:07:04,202 --> 00:07:07,404 But I'll keep that with me for a long time. 148 00:07:08,276 --> 00:07:09,861 Here are the photos. 149 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,697 And that's where he dismembered him. 150 00:07:12,699 --> 00:07:15,733 And, uh, there was some cannibalism. 151 00:07:16,835 --> 00:07:19,536 Luka Magnotta is a real cannibal, 152 00:07:19,538 --> 00:07:22,584 as opposed to someone who engaged in it 153 00:07:22,586 --> 00:07:25,576 just on a fantasy basis. 154 00:07:25,578 --> 00:07:29,914 It's extremely messed up. It's extremely messed up. 155 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:32,350 Can we see his interrogation? 156 00:07:32,352 --> 00:07:34,709 It wouldn't be of any help. He's really not talking. 157 00:07:34,711 --> 00:07:36,834 Well, then let us take a crack at him. 158 00:07:36,836 --> 00:07:38,623 I'm sorry, my hands are tied. 159 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:39,757 He's awaiting trial. 160 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:41,315 It's with the courts now. 161 00:07:41,317 --> 00:07:43,253 And, anyways, what would you say, 162 00:07:43,255 --> 00:07:45,078 that he calls himself Nathan? 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,832 No, he's going to jail for murder. 164 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:50,001 You don't want to derail that. 165 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:52,807 We couldn't speak to Magnotta. 166 00:07:52,809 --> 00:07:56,074 He was awaiting trial on his murder charges. 167 00:07:56,076 --> 00:07:59,143 And we didn't want to interfere with that process. 168 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:02,113 What about his computers, cell phones? Do you have those? 169 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:03,981 Yeah, we can get them if it helps. 170 00:08:03,983 --> 00:08:05,550 Okay. 171 00:08:05,552 --> 00:08:08,108 This potential link to Luka Magnotta 172 00:08:08,110 --> 00:08:09,910 is a terrifying thought. 173 00:08:20,847 --> 00:08:26,024 _ 174 00:08:26,026 --> 00:08:30,029 The Magnotta files are reviewed by investigators. 175 00:08:30,031 --> 00:08:32,570 We had computers that Montreal Police had gathered, 176 00:08:32,572 --> 00:08:34,772 storage devices that they had seized 177 00:08:34,774 --> 00:08:36,822 to see if there were any links whatsoever 178 00:08:36,824 --> 00:08:39,547 between Magnotta and not only Brunton, 179 00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:41,572 but any of these 3 missing men. 180 00:08:41,574 --> 00:08:43,563 So, was Magnotta in contact with him? 181 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:45,732 It's gonna take weeks to dig through it all. 182 00:08:49,592 --> 00:08:51,392 _ 183 00:08:52,864 --> 00:08:54,865 We're done with Magnotta's files. 184 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:55,966 And? 185 00:08:55,968 --> 00:08:59,102 Nothing, no connection to our victims. 186 00:08:59,104 --> 00:09:01,158 There was nothing on his hard drives 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,440 or any of his storage devices anywhere 188 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:05,943 that linked to any of the 3 missing men. 189 00:09:06,945 --> 00:09:08,545 Disappointing, yes. 190 00:09:08,547 --> 00:09:09,605 I thought: 191 00:09:09,607 --> 00:09:12,716 "Okay, this cannibalism angle is a dead end". 192 00:09:13,885 --> 00:09:18,161 Since we had discounted Brunton and now Luka Magnotta, 193 00:09:19,014 --> 00:09:21,676 we couldn't say any of these men had been murdered, 194 00:09:21,678 --> 00:09:24,828 because we had no evidence that they had been murdered. 195 00:09:24,830 --> 00:09:28,031 It returns to being a missing persons investigation. 196 00:09:28,033 --> 00:09:31,501 I had to return back to my office at Homicide 197 00:09:31,503 --> 00:09:34,571 and start taking on homicide cases again. 198 00:09:34,573 --> 00:09:37,737 But I left Project Houston 199 00:09:37,739 --> 00:09:41,677 in very capable hands to carry on. 200 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 It's hard to believe they're all missing. 201 00:09:43,882 --> 00:09:47,741 We had many helpful people come forward. 202 00:09:47,743 --> 00:09:49,553 Did they know each other? 203 00:09:49,555 --> 00:09:53,156 Maybe, they're all Black Eagle regulars. 204 00:09:53,158 --> 00:09:54,858 So it's possible. 205 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:59,091 Investigators reached out 206 00:09:59,093 --> 00:10:01,794 to The 519 community organization 207 00:10:01,796 --> 00:10:03,784 to help make inroads 208 00:10:03,786 --> 00:10:06,179 where there's that apprehension 209 00:10:06,181 --> 00:10:09,616 about even going to the police in the first place. 210 00:10:11,652 --> 00:10:14,454 A lot of people are afraid to come forward. 211 00:10:16,524 --> 00:10:19,125 Look at them. They came here for a better life. 212 00:10:19,127 --> 00:10:20,973 Many of them come from places 213 00:10:20,975 --> 00:10:23,101 where they may not be accepted for who they are. 214 00:10:23,103 --> 00:10:24,670 So, they keep things secret. 215 00:10:24,672 --> 00:10:26,567 Most of their friends have talked to us, 216 00:10:26,569 --> 00:10:29,108 but for others, well, it's certainly been a challenge. 217 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:30,110 Of course. 218 00:10:35,549 --> 00:10:39,118 We interviewed many associates of the missing men, 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,619 including Silverfoxx. 220 00:10:40,621 --> 00:10:42,521 I found another person connected to 2 of the men. 221 00:10:42,523 --> 00:10:44,790 He goes by Silverfoxx51. 222 00:10:44,792 --> 00:10:47,893 The individual associated to that username 223 00:10:47,895 --> 00:10:50,763 had to be identified and had to be interviewed. 224 00:10:50,765 --> 00:10:52,631 When was the last time you saw him? 225 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:56,769 It was a Sunday at the Black Eagle. 226 00:10:56,771 --> 00:10:59,371 We had a group that would meet there. 227 00:10:59,373 --> 00:11:03,108 And the next time I saw him was on a missing poster. 228 00:11:04,712 --> 00:11:06,045 I miss him. 229 00:11:09,749 --> 00:11:11,884 You know him? 230 00:11:11,886 --> 00:11:14,823 I mean, I've seen his missing poster around town, 231 00:11:14,825 --> 00:11:18,490 but other than that, no, absolutely not. 232 00:11:18,492 --> 00:11:22,795 Why would he have Silverfoxx51 written down in his notebook? 233 00:11:22,797 --> 00:11:24,730 That's my online profile. 234 00:11:25,765 --> 00:11:28,133 I mean, I use it for online dating. 235 00:11:28,135 --> 00:11:29,668 Maybe from there? 236 00:11:36,476 --> 00:11:38,177 All right. 237 00:11:38,179 --> 00:11:41,647 Don't you want to ask me about Majeed? 238 00:11:44,651 --> 00:11:46,518 You know him? 239 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,621 - Sure, we had a relationship. - When? 240 00:11:48,623 --> 00:11:52,160 A while back. I met him, like 10 years ago. 241 00:11:52,162 --> 00:11:54,627 And when did you see him last? 242 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:56,362 I don't know. 243 00:11:57,998 --> 00:12:01,000 It was on Church. Uh, he was out. 244 00:12:02,002 --> 00:12:04,670 I avoided him, though. I had to work the next morning. 245 00:12:06,974 --> 00:12:10,109 All right, well, thanks for coming in. 246 00:12:11,444 --> 00:12:12,645 Of course. 247 00:12:12,647 --> 00:12:15,281 And if there's anything else, please give me a call. 248 00:12:15,283 --> 00:12:18,374 You're always hopeful that a witness is going to be able to 249 00:12:18,376 --> 00:12:21,220 provide you with some useful information. 250 00:12:21,222 --> 00:12:24,964 But if he doesn't have anything that can help you out 251 00:12:24,966 --> 00:12:26,792 and you think he's being truthful, 252 00:12:26,794 --> 00:12:27,993 then you move on. 253 00:12:30,196 --> 00:12:32,284 You're also going to have people 254 00:12:32,286 --> 00:12:35,701 who are going to slam the door in your face, 255 00:12:35,703 --> 00:12:38,570 people who are scared to talk to police 256 00:12:38,572 --> 00:12:41,540 because they weren't out as being gay. 257 00:12:41,542 --> 00:12:44,643 My family doesn't know anything about this. 258 00:12:44,645 --> 00:12:46,637 It would ruin things for me. 259 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,129 I've had people say: 260 00:12:48,131 --> 00:12:50,513 "I don't trust the police because of the history 261 00:12:50,515 --> 00:12:53,319 between the police and the gay community in Toronto". 262 00:12:53,321 --> 00:12:56,222 We just need to know what you know about these guys. 263 00:12:56,224 --> 00:12:58,057 Sure you do. Sure you do. 264 00:13:04,431 --> 00:13:08,033 There is legitimate reasons for these tensions. 265 00:13:09,570 --> 00:13:11,026 Some of that mistrust was developed 266 00:13:11,028 --> 00:13:13,539 in the '70s, '80s and '90s 267 00:13:13,541 --> 00:13:17,276 where people are being treated differently by police 268 00:13:17,278 --> 00:13:19,700 simply because of their sexuality. 269 00:13:19,702 --> 00:13:23,160 That's something that has to be worked on an awful lot 270 00:13:23,162 --> 00:13:25,272 from our end to rebuild that trust. 271 00:13:25,274 --> 00:13:27,274 _ 272 00:13:29,756 --> 00:13:34,059 Project Houston came to a point in April of 2014 273 00:13:34,061 --> 00:13:37,382 where the investigators had exhausted 274 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:40,131 all of the leads that they had. 275 00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:43,135 The investigation was still open, 276 00:13:43,137 --> 00:13:47,773 but there were no personnel assigned on a permanent basis. 277 00:13:47,775 --> 00:13:50,876 Did I lay awake at night thinking about it? 278 00:13:50,878 --> 00:13:52,778 Absolutely, I did. 279 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:58,584 Unsolved cases, they don't ever leave you. 280 00:14:08,489 --> 00:14:09,512 _ 281 00:14:09,514 --> 00:14:11,416 It's now 2017. 282 00:14:11,418 --> 00:14:13,818 Debbie has retired from the police service 283 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:17,155 and is now working for the Office of the Fire Marshal. 284 00:14:17,157 --> 00:14:20,125 I'm back at headquarters, working in Homicide. 285 00:14:20,127 --> 00:14:22,127 At the end of April, 286 00:14:22,129 --> 00:14:24,963 a man named Selim Esan was reported missing. 287 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:27,575 He wasn't reported missing for 15 days, 288 00:14:27,577 --> 00:14:29,134 so the surveillance footage was wiped. 289 00:14:29,136 --> 00:14:31,536 We traced his phone records, talked to friends, 290 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:33,371 but no one knows what happened to him. 291 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:38,244 Selim Esan was a gay male of Turkish descent. 292 00:14:38,246 --> 00:14:40,369 Yes, there's some concern here. 293 00:14:40,371 --> 00:14:43,782 And yes, he does fit the same profile as the other three. 294 00:14:46,488 --> 00:14:48,712 51 just reported another man missing 295 00:14:48,714 --> 00:14:50,832 from Church and Wellesley. They think it's suspicious. 296 00:14:50,834 --> 00:14:52,831 And suddenly, this bombshell hits. 297 00:14:52,833 --> 00:14:54,169 Another one? 298 00:14:54,171 --> 00:14:56,871 We had 2 men go missing from the Village 299 00:14:56,873 --> 00:14:58,306 in the span of 2 months. 300 00:14:58,308 --> 00:15:01,843 It felt like it was happening all over again. 301 00:15:01,845 --> 00:15:03,778 Get down there real quick. 302 00:15:03,780 --> 00:15:07,248 Get on top of it. Report everything back to me. 303 00:15:07,250 --> 00:15:10,285 It's okay. This one's gonna come together. 304 00:15:10,287 --> 00:15:13,188 We're gonna figure this one out. We're gonna solve this one. 305 00:15:20,796 --> 00:15:21,896 Hey! 306 00:15:22,898 --> 00:15:24,132 So, what have you got? 307 00:15:24,134 --> 00:15:26,935 Uh, the missing man is Andrew Kinsman, 308 00:15:26,937 --> 00:15:29,127 49 years old, 6'4", 220. 309 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:31,966 - When was he last seen? - Monday afternoon. 310 00:15:31,968 --> 00:15:33,581 A tenant reported him missing 311 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:35,584 when she noticed the garbage hadn't been taken out. 312 00:15:36,645 --> 00:15:39,480 Mr. Kinsman didn't look like the other guys. 313 00:15:39,482 --> 00:15:41,616 But no matter what colour he is, 314 00:15:41,618 --> 00:15:44,018 he's another gay male from the Village 315 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:46,054 who has disappeared. 316 00:15:46,056 --> 00:15:48,122 Okay, be sure to pull security footage. 317 00:15:48,124 --> 00:15:49,724 Neighbours, street cams... 318 00:15:49,726 --> 00:15:51,593 There should be plenty available. 319 00:15:51,595 --> 00:15:53,161 It's been less than 72 hours. 320 00:15:53,163 --> 00:15:55,396 Okay. Want to take a look inside? 321 00:15:55,398 --> 00:15:56,664 Yeah. 322 00:15:57,833 --> 00:16:01,715 Mr. Kinsman was actually the superintendent of the building. 323 00:16:01,717 --> 00:16:03,905 And he had responsibilities around the building. 324 00:16:05,708 --> 00:16:07,308 Any sign of forced entry? 325 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:10,245 No, no forced entry. No signs of any struggle. 326 00:16:10,247 --> 00:16:11,846 Coffey found this, though. 327 00:16:15,651 --> 00:16:17,085 "3:00 p.m. Bruce". 328 00:16:17,087 --> 00:16:20,455 June 26, right around the last time Kinsman was seen. 329 00:16:21,523 --> 00:16:24,225 - Any idea who it is? - We're looking into it. 330 00:16:25,561 --> 00:16:29,264 Is there a chance that this guy just took off on his own? 331 00:16:29,266 --> 00:16:30,421 Doubtful. 332 00:16:30,423 --> 00:16:32,258 Now we're worried 333 00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:34,695 he had somehow met with foul play 334 00:16:34,697 --> 00:16:36,004 at that point in time. 335 00:16:36,006 --> 00:16:38,426 Andrew Kinsman's friends were clearly emotional 336 00:16:38,428 --> 00:16:41,318 earlier today at 51 Division when they spoke. 337 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,133 They say his disappearance 338 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,880 is completely out of character for him. 339 00:16:45,882 --> 00:16:48,716 He's one of the most predictable, responsible people 340 00:16:48,718 --> 00:16:49,951 in my whole life. 341 00:16:49,953 --> 00:16:52,925 He would not leave all of us hanging like this. 342 00:16:52,927 --> 00:16:54,689 He would let us know. 343 00:16:54,691 --> 00:16:57,978 After Kinsman went missing, 344 00:16:57,980 --> 00:17:01,229 obviously, there's increased fear in the community. 345 00:17:01,231 --> 00:17:02,730 You know, it's not safe. 346 00:17:02,732 --> 00:17:04,432 It makes me wonder who's out there 347 00:17:04,434 --> 00:17:05,633 and what's really going on. 348 00:17:05,635 --> 00:17:09,433 Lots of suspicions and speculation... 349 00:17:09,435 --> 00:17:12,047 Police won't use the term "serial killer", 350 00:17:12,049 --> 00:17:14,609 but people in the Village were quick to use it. 351 00:17:14,611 --> 00:17:16,411 People just don't disappear. 352 00:17:16,413 --> 00:17:18,079 ... inciting a lot of panic. 353 00:17:18,081 --> 00:17:20,381 Nobody trusts anyone anymore. 354 00:17:20,383 --> 00:17:22,917 And they needed that to end. 355 00:17:22,919 --> 00:17:26,854 We set up a new task force, Project Prism. 356 00:17:26,856 --> 00:17:30,224 The goal of that project was to investigate 357 00:17:30,226 --> 00:17:33,561 the disappearances of Selim Esan and Andrew Kinsman 358 00:17:33,563 --> 00:17:36,447 and anything that links to the 3 individuals 359 00:17:36,449 --> 00:17:37,535 from Project Houston. 360 00:17:37,537 --> 00:17:39,631 We're gonna start by focusing on Kinsman, 361 00:17:39,633 --> 00:17:40,668 'cause he's the most recent. 362 00:17:40,670 --> 00:17:42,694 We need to go through his computers, phone records, 363 00:17:42,696 --> 00:17:44,292 any surveillance tape we have. 364 00:17:44,294 --> 00:17:46,550 We need to talk to anyone in Kinsman's circle: 365 00:17:46,552 --> 00:17:49,777 family, friends, uncles, aunts, lovers, ex-lovers. 366 00:17:49,779 --> 00:17:52,013 You know, people are rightfully scared. 367 00:17:53,682 --> 00:17:56,040 So, let's... let's figure it out. 368 00:17:56,042 --> 00:18:01,188 The first step is accounting for the last hours 369 00:18:01,190 --> 00:18:04,459 of when someone has been seen 370 00:18:04,461 --> 00:18:06,327 and identifying associates, 371 00:18:06,329 --> 00:18:09,630 identifying places that they frequent, 372 00:18:09,632 --> 00:18:13,935 trying to find people who might be able to help you. 373 00:18:13,937 --> 00:18:16,027 A packed house last night in the Gay Village 374 00:18:16,029 --> 00:18:18,840 as police and the community talked about the disappearances 375 00:18:18,842 --> 00:18:21,175 of 5 men from the area. 376 00:18:21,177 --> 00:18:24,979 I wanted to see some movement on the case. 377 00:18:24,981 --> 00:18:26,848 I'm glad that the police 378 00:18:26,850 --> 00:18:30,742 have put more police on the actual investigation. 379 00:18:30,744 --> 00:18:32,687 The difference in 2017 380 00:18:32,689 --> 00:18:35,823 was the proliferation of video cameras. 381 00:18:37,596 --> 00:18:40,087 We had to go through the video footage 382 00:18:40,089 --> 00:18:42,706 that had been seized from different cameras 383 00:18:42,708 --> 00:18:44,684 all throughout Mr. Kinsman's neighbourhood, 384 00:18:44,686 --> 00:18:47,168 trying to figure out what happened to him. 385 00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:50,709 It's definitely not as simple as it sounds. 386 00:18:50,711 --> 00:18:54,435 You have grainy footage from different cameras. 387 00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:57,727 It's an incredibly time-consuming, menial task. 388 00:18:57,729 --> 00:19:01,605 Hours and days of tiring and draining work 389 00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:05,420 sitting in front of a computer by multiple officers. 390 00:19:06,922 --> 00:19:09,257 I think we found something. 391 00:19:11,894 --> 00:19:13,895 Hey, Hank! 392 00:19:13,897 --> 00:19:17,407 We found footage of a red van 393 00:19:17,409 --> 00:19:20,101 stopping close to Kinsman's residence. 394 00:19:20,103 --> 00:19:22,003 That looks like Kinsman. 395 00:19:22,005 --> 00:19:24,672 Did you get an angle on the driver? 396 00:19:24,674 --> 00:19:26,674 - No. - How about the plate? 397 00:19:26,676 --> 00:19:29,110 No, but we were able to narrow the model down 398 00:19:29,112 --> 00:19:31,579 to a Dodge Caravan from the early 2000s. 399 00:19:31,581 --> 00:19:33,181 Probably 2004. 400 00:19:33,183 --> 00:19:36,117 My reaction is: "Okay, focus on that van". 401 00:19:40,289 --> 00:19:45,259 Okay. Can you pull up all red 2003 to 2006 Caravans in the GTA? 402 00:19:46,795 --> 00:19:52,269 There are 6,181 red 2003 to 2006 Dodge Caravans 403 00:19:52,271 --> 00:19:53,771 in all of Ontario. 404 00:19:53,773 --> 00:19:56,370 Kinsman has a note for the day he went missing 405 00:19:56,372 --> 00:19:58,606 where it says Bruce. 406 00:19:58,608 --> 00:20:00,208 "3:00 p.m. Bruce". 407 00:20:00,210 --> 00:20:01,943 How many of those Dodge Caravans 408 00:20:01,945 --> 00:20:03,945 were registered to someone named Bruce? 409 00:20:07,649 --> 00:20:08,649 Five. 410 00:20:08,651 --> 00:20:10,985 Any of those pop up in our records? 411 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:15,623 - Only one. - Pull it up. 412 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:18,126 Bruce McArthur. 413 00:20:19,128 --> 00:20:20,294 I know that guy. 414 00:20:21,255 --> 00:20:24,080 I interviewed him for Houston after you left. 415 00:20:24,082 --> 00:20:26,883 - Can you find the interview? - Yeah, just one sec. 416 00:20:28,303 --> 00:20:31,606 Does the name Silverfoxx51 mean anything to you? 417 00:20:31,608 --> 00:20:33,674 Sure, that's my online profile. 418 00:20:33,676 --> 00:20:36,927 This is the guy that we did identify in 2013 419 00:20:36,929 --> 00:20:38,097 as Silverfoxx. 420 00:20:38,099 --> 00:20:42,150 We knew he was associated to 2 of the 3 missing persons 421 00:20:42,152 --> 00:20:44,485 from Project Houston. 422 00:20:44,487 --> 00:20:47,355 - You know him? - He was a good friend. 423 00:20:47,357 --> 00:20:48,533 Just a friend? 424 00:20:48,535 --> 00:20:51,993 We never had sex, if that's what you mean. 425 00:20:51,995 --> 00:20:54,428 - Did he know Skanda? - That's possible. 426 00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:57,365 I mean, they both hung out at the Black Eagle. 427 00:20:57,367 --> 00:21:00,034 Did you check his criminal record? 428 00:21:00,036 --> 00:21:02,170 He had an assault charge from 12 years ago. 429 00:21:02,172 --> 00:21:03,838 Drove once without insurance papers. 430 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,006 He was otherwise clean. 431 00:21:05,008 --> 00:21:06,674 Yeah, there are a lot of guys 432 00:21:06,676 --> 00:21:07,808 with much worse records. 433 00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:09,469 Hindsight's a wonderful thing. 434 00:21:09,471 --> 00:21:11,981 But even with hindsight, 435 00:21:11,983 --> 00:21:14,123 I've seen people with criminal records 436 00:21:14,125 --> 00:21:17,385 with 70, 100, 150 convictions 437 00:21:17,387 --> 00:21:21,022 for offences such as assault or such as mischief. 438 00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:22,857 That's not that unusual. 439 00:21:22,859 --> 00:21:25,560 Looks like McArthur was arrested in 2016. 440 00:21:25,562 --> 00:21:28,496 Three years after Project Houston, 441 00:21:28,498 --> 00:21:31,799 Bruce McArthur was arrested for choking somebody 442 00:21:31,801 --> 00:21:33,601 in the back of his van. 443 00:21:33,603 --> 00:21:34,702 What happened? 444 00:21:34,704 --> 00:21:36,737 The victim escaped and dialled 911 445 00:21:36,739 --> 00:21:38,873 and McArthur turned himself in that night. 446 00:21:38,875 --> 00:21:40,090 But, all charges were dropped 447 00:21:40,092 --> 00:21:41,909 when he explained it as a misunderstanding. 448 00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:45,126 The investigating officer concluded that 449 00:21:45,128 --> 00:21:47,661 there weren't grounds to charge him because he seemed, quote: 450 00:21:47,663 --> 00:21:50,651 "Genuine and credible in his recall of the incident". 451 00:21:50,653 --> 00:21:52,753 It was determined that it was consensual. 452 00:21:52,755 --> 00:21:54,589 And he was released with no charges. 453 00:21:54,591 --> 00:21:55,923 And I thought to myself: 454 00:21:55,925 --> 00:21:57,925 "That doesn't sound quite right". 455 00:21:57,927 --> 00:22:01,128 I didn't know where something had gone wrong, 456 00:22:01,130 --> 00:22:03,130 if something had gone wrong. 457 00:22:03,132 --> 00:22:04,532 I think I have a video. 458 00:22:04,534 --> 00:22:07,114 I thought he liked it rough. 459 00:22:07,116 --> 00:22:10,140 So I reached out and grabbed him by the neck 460 00:22:10,142 --> 00:22:11,475 and started squeezing. 461 00:22:12,374 --> 00:22:13,841 Boy, did I misread him, 462 00:22:13,843 --> 00:22:16,544 because then he started to freak out. 463 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,681 Next thing I know, he's calling you guys. 464 00:22:20,683 --> 00:22:23,417 And we let this guy go? 465 00:22:27,656 --> 00:22:31,993 The Toronto Police Service screwed something up here. 466 00:22:31,995 --> 00:22:36,333 Not an individual officer, the Toronto Police Service. 467 00:22:36,335 --> 00:22:37,465 He fooled me. 468 00:22:37,467 --> 00:22:39,900 No, he fooled all of us. 469 00:22:39,902 --> 00:22:42,903 I need you to find McArthur's van and seize it. 470 00:22:42,905 --> 00:22:44,372 Now that we know that 471 00:22:44,374 --> 00:22:46,828 that van belongs to Bruce McArthur, 472 00:22:46,830 --> 00:22:49,676 the next step is to forensically examine it 473 00:22:49,678 --> 00:22:53,046 and see if there's any evidence that can help us out. 474 00:22:56,885 --> 00:22:59,086 We had McArthur's home address. 475 00:23:17,106 --> 00:23:18,572 Yeah. 476 00:23:18,574 --> 00:23:20,808 Yeah, I'm in McArthur's parking garage. 477 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:23,344 I found his car, but it's not a 2004 Caravan. 478 00:23:23,346 --> 00:23:24,478 It's a much newer model. 479 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,092 It was suspicious to us 480 00:23:26,094 --> 00:23:29,085 that he had gotten rid of his 2004 Dodge Caravan 481 00:23:29,087 --> 00:23:32,934 2 days after Project Prism was publicly announced. 482 00:23:35,324 --> 00:23:37,792 The important thing then was: 483 00:23:37,794 --> 00:23:40,828 "We've got to find this 2004 Dodge Caravan". 484 00:23:44,032 --> 00:23:46,701 We started looking for the van. 485 00:23:47,703 --> 00:23:50,805 We put McArthur under full surveillance. 486 00:23:53,675 --> 00:23:56,944 Lots of fear, lots of worry, lots of angst 487 00:23:56,946 --> 00:23:59,847 that he's going to kill another victim. 488 00:23:59,849 --> 00:24:03,049 And in the meantime, it was decided, 489 00:24:03,051 --> 00:24:05,686 we've got to go into his apartment... 490 00:24:05,688 --> 00:24:07,788 He's on the move. You're clear. 491 00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,025 ... clone his computer... 492 00:24:12,894 --> 00:24:16,263 and see what we can find in his apartment. 493 00:24:21,837 --> 00:24:23,337 They're inside the place. 494 00:24:30,055 --> 00:24:32,078 _ 495 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,583 Are there any visitors who are going to be coming by? 496 00:24:35,585 --> 00:24:37,685 Are there neighbours watching? 497 00:24:37,687 --> 00:24:41,989 Everything and anything can potentially go wrong. 498 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:13,307 He's coming back. 499 00:25:13,309 --> 00:25:16,056 He's in the parking garage. Get out now! 500 00:25:16,058 --> 00:25:20,528 Maybe he knows we're onto him. Maybe he's onto us. 501 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,302 That's all running through your head. 502 00:26:08,782 --> 00:26:13,753 We managed to clone 45% of Bruce McArthur's computer. 503 00:26:13,755 --> 00:26:16,355 He's coming back. Get out now! 504 00:26:16,357 --> 00:26:18,291 We gotta go. 505 00:26:19,548 --> 00:26:23,885 We had analysts start going through all of that material, 506 00:26:23,887 --> 00:26:25,312 looking for links 507 00:26:25,314 --> 00:26:29,156 between Bruce McArthur and Andrew Kinsman. 508 00:26:29,158 --> 00:26:34,128 In that 45%, there are a million artefacts 509 00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:37,365 and over 100,000 images. 510 00:26:40,302 --> 00:26:42,570 While all this is going on, 511 00:26:42,572 --> 00:26:46,707 we found Bruce McArthur's van at a wrecking yard. 512 00:26:48,810 --> 00:26:51,445 I can't really promise what condition the vehicle is in. 513 00:26:51,447 --> 00:26:52,880 Hey, that's better than nothing. 514 00:26:52,882 --> 00:26:56,150 - There she is. - The plate's missing. 515 00:26:56,152 --> 00:26:57,669 You're lucky it's here at all. 516 00:26:57,671 --> 00:27:00,729 You know, a regular scrapyard would have destroyed it by now. 517 00:27:00,731 --> 00:27:02,030 Yeah. 518 00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:10,496 VIN is a match. 519 00:27:10,498 --> 00:27:12,264 I'm seizing this vehicle. 520 00:27:13,905 --> 00:27:17,074 The van was examined by forensics specialists. 521 00:27:17,076 --> 00:27:20,568 They found human blood as well as semen, 522 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:23,519 which were submitted for DNA testing. 523 00:27:30,422 --> 00:27:31,655 Yeah. 524 00:27:32,657 --> 00:27:33,924 Yeah, okay. 525 00:27:33,926 --> 00:27:36,493 Thanks for letting me know. Bye. 526 00:27:39,765 --> 00:27:43,090 One area of the blood staining in the van 527 00:27:43,092 --> 00:27:44,501 matched to Andrew Kinsman. 528 00:27:44,503 --> 00:27:46,570 Very sad. 529 00:27:47,672 --> 00:27:49,773 Very sad. 530 00:27:51,338 --> 00:27:53,200 This suggests to us 531 00:27:53,202 --> 00:27:55,167 that Andrew Kinsman has been killed. 532 00:27:55,169 --> 00:27:58,235 And we have some evidence which indicates to us 533 00:27:58,237 --> 00:28:00,602 that Bruce McArthur is a suspect 534 00:28:00,604 --> 00:28:02,838 in the murder of Andrew Kinsman. 535 00:28:05,023 --> 00:28:10,411 Is McArthur the guy who's done all of this? 536 00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:12,529 And has he killed these other guys? 537 00:28:12,531 --> 00:28:15,566 Okay. I will. 538 00:28:18,036 --> 00:28:21,905 Call you right back. That looks like Kinsman. 539 00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:24,941 In a folder named "Andy" on McArthur's computer. 540 00:28:24,943 --> 00:28:25,973 He tried deleting it. 541 00:28:25,975 --> 00:28:27,211 He looks deceased. 542 00:28:27,213 --> 00:28:29,724 It's dated June 26, the day he went missing. 543 00:28:29,726 --> 00:28:30,826 And there's more: 544 00:28:30,828 --> 00:28:32,873 Pictures of 4 other men, 545 00:28:32,875 --> 00:28:34,563 just like it, all in fur coats. 546 00:28:34,565 --> 00:28:36,598 Three of them I don't recognize. 547 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,834 Who's the fourth? 548 00:28:40,513 --> 00:28:42,804 Selim Esan. 549 00:28:42,806 --> 00:28:45,314 After he killed his victims, 550 00:28:45,316 --> 00:28:48,395 he would pose them and he would take photographs of them. 551 00:28:49,412 --> 00:28:51,813 It's McArthur's bedroom. 552 00:28:51,815 --> 00:28:53,171 We now had evidence 553 00:28:53,173 --> 00:28:56,212 that he had killed Mr. Esan and Mr. Kinsman. 554 00:28:56,214 --> 00:28:59,281 And we're finding photos of more men 555 00:28:59,283 --> 00:29:01,517 who we don't know who these men are. 556 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,323 Now this all comes crashing down as absolute reality. 557 00:29:07,325 --> 00:29:10,125 And I was angry that... 558 00:29:10,942 --> 00:29:12,131 this had gone on, 559 00:29:12,133 --> 00:29:14,257 that this had happened in our city. 560 00:29:14,259 --> 00:29:16,545 - Let's take him down. - Not yet. 561 00:29:16,547 --> 00:29:17,752 We don't know where the bodies are. 562 00:29:17,754 --> 00:29:20,177 He's a landscaper. They could be buried. 563 00:29:20,179 --> 00:29:22,497 Let's get search warrants for properties he worked on. 564 00:29:22,499 --> 00:29:24,455 It'll take days. It's dozens of properties. 565 00:29:24,457 --> 00:29:28,323 We gave ourselves 72 hours to get the teams into place, 566 00:29:28,325 --> 00:29:31,384 get the warrants all signed and be ready to go. 567 00:29:31,386 --> 00:29:33,252 What if he tries something between now and then? 568 00:29:33,254 --> 00:29:34,729 If he tries anything, 569 00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,133 if he tries to destroy evidence 570 00:29:36,135 --> 00:29:37,424 or he's alone with a man, 571 00:29:37,426 --> 00:29:39,417 we take him down right away. 572 00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:42,810 We have to get him off the street, 573 00:29:42,812 --> 00:29:44,979 but we have to do it properly. 574 00:29:45,842 --> 00:29:50,712 We had 24-hour surveillance of Mr. McArthur in place, 575 00:29:50,714 --> 00:29:54,349 unless he goes somewhere alone with another male, 576 00:29:54,351 --> 00:29:57,985 in which case, the plan is completely off, 577 00:29:57,987 --> 00:30:01,555 and he is to be arrested right there and then. 578 00:30:05,495 --> 00:30:07,162 He's headed back to his apartment. 579 00:30:08,297 --> 00:30:11,366 He does exactly what we had hoped he wouldn't do. 580 00:30:11,368 --> 00:30:13,335 It was unbelievable. 581 00:30:14,637 --> 00:30:15,871 He picks up a male, 582 00:30:15,873 --> 00:30:19,207 and he takes him back to his apartment. 583 00:30:20,776 --> 00:30:22,878 It's good to see you again. 584 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,447 You too. 585 00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:28,517 Does anyone know you're with me? 586 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:32,387 Let's go. 587 00:30:42,098 --> 00:30:43,965 And I said to the team: 588 00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:45,667 "Take him out right now. 589 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:48,779 He's responsible for killing 2 people. 590 00:30:48,781 --> 00:30:52,240 And we're not going to take any risks with him whatsoever". 591 00:30:52,242 --> 00:30:54,176 Okay, let's bring him in. 592 00:30:56,207 --> 00:30:59,665 They have to go up 18 floors to McArthur's apartment, 593 00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,316 hoping that they're not too late. 594 00:31:19,101 --> 00:31:20,802 Can I help you? 595 00:31:20,804 --> 00:31:24,072 Bruce McArthur, you're under arrest for first-degree murder. 596 00:31:25,841 --> 00:31:27,943 Hello? 597 00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,151 Hey! It's okay. It's okay. 598 00:31:36,153 --> 00:31:37,986 You're gonna be okay. 599 00:31:39,423 --> 00:31:41,056 It's okay. It's all right. 600 00:31:41,058 --> 00:31:42,958 Get me out of here! 601 00:31:50,066 --> 00:31:51,866 It's okay. It's okay. 602 00:31:52,868 --> 00:31:57,572 I have no doubt that Dickinson saved that man's life. 603 00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:07,489 We are at 51 Division with McArthur. 604 00:32:07,491 --> 00:32:09,758 Emotions are running high. 605 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,027 And adrenaline is running high. 606 00:32:12,029 --> 00:32:14,029 He thinks he's getting away with this. 607 00:32:14,031 --> 00:32:16,331 He thinks he's outsmarted everybody, 608 00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,754 and he's going to continue doing 609 00:32:18,756 --> 00:32:19,988 what he's been doing. 610 00:32:21,091 --> 00:32:23,492 Am I gonna be here much longer? 611 00:32:23,494 --> 00:32:26,433 I really don't want to miss my prior engagement. 612 00:32:26,435 --> 00:32:28,443 He certainly did not react 613 00:32:28,445 --> 00:32:31,479 as you would expect anybody to react. 614 00:32:31,481 --> 00:32:33,715 Very nonchalant. 615 00:32:36,873 --> 00:32:39,908 Of course I know Andrew. 616 00:32:39,910 --> 00:32:42,544 I haven't seen him in a long time, though. 617 00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:43,546 How long? 618 00:32:44,814 --> 00:32:48,050 A week? A month? A year? 619 00:32:48,052 --> 00:32:52,187 I don't think he knew how much we knew 620 00:32:52,189 --> 00:32:54,389 at that point in time. 621 00:32:54,391 --> 00:32:56,692 - Bruce, how long? - Over a year. 622 00:33:02,432 --> 00:33:03,799 How about him? 623 00:33:06,069 --> 00:33:07,302 Bruce? 624 00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:13,041 Actually, he looks like a guy I met a few months ago. 625 00:33:13,043 --> 00:33:16,145 - What's his name? - I don't remember. 626 00:33:16,147 --> 00:33:18,881 - We went back to my place. - Then what? 627 00:33:18,883 --> 00:33:22,584 I had some very good evidence with the photographs 628 00:33:22,586 --> 00:33:25,487 that were found on Mr. McArthur's computer. 629 00:33:25,489 --> 00:33:26,989 But without a body, 630 00:33:26,991 --> 00:33:30,292 it's going to be an uphill battle in court. 631 00:33:30,294 --> 00:33:33,595 What happened at your place, Bruce? Bruce? 632 00:33:41,171 --> 00:33:43,138 Where'd you meet? 633 00:33:45,275 --> 00:33:47,810 How about him? 634 00:33:48,604 --> 00:33:50,171 Bruce? 635 00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:56,689 Any time we tried to gear the subject towards the murders, 636 00:33:56,691 --> 00:33:59,007 Mr. McArthur would not communicate anymore. 637 00:33:59,009 --> 00:34:01,910 I really don't want to miss my appointment. 638 00:34:07,307 --> 00:34:09,865 So, the interview, at the end of it, 639 00:34:09,867 --> 00:34:11,867 really was quite fruitless. 640 00:34:15,038 --> 00:34:18,540 We came to that point and still didn't have any answers. 641 00:34:18,542 --> 00:34:19,975 Very frustrating. 642 00:34:19,977 --> 00:34:22,978 From missing persons to murder victims. 643 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:24,947 Police aren't revealing much more 644 00:34:24,949 --> 00:34:28,183 as to what happened to Andrew Kinsman or Selim Esan, 645 00:34:28,185 --> 00:34:31,019 just that their killer is allegedly 646 00:34:31,021 --> 00:34:34,723 a 66-year-old landscaper named Bruce McArthur, 647 00:34:34,725 --> 00:34:36,017 who, as of today, 648 00:34:36,019 --> 00:34:39,046 has been charged with 2 counts of first-degree murder. 649 00:34:39,048 --> 00:34:42,741 I'm telling you, he's killed at least 2 people that we know of. 650 00:34:42,743 --> 00:34:44,588 And we believe there are more victims. 651 00:34:44,590 --> 00:34:47,302 And tonight, police are still digging for evidence, 652 00:34:47,304 --> 00:34:48,995 searching through that apartment building 653 00:34:48,997 --> 00:34:50,963 connected to the suspect. 654 00:34:52,842 --> 00:34:55,978 McArthur's apartment was a crime scene. 655 00:34:58,982 --> 00:35:02,702 So I undertook a very thorough forensic examination 656 00:35:02,704 --> 00:35:04,819 of that apartment. 657 00:35:04,821 --> 00:35:07,730 Essentially, in that situation, 658 00:35:07,732 --> 00:35:09,732 your mind is a whirlwind. 659 00:35:11,139 --> 00:35:14,418 The utmost priority is to find anything 660 00:35:14,420 --> 00:35:16,110 that tied any of the other missing men 661 00:35:16,112 --> 00:35:17,232 that we were investigating. 662 00:35:21,237 --> 00:35:24,206 A metal bar had been used to commit the murders. 663 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:27,175 He would put the rope around the victim's neck, 664 00:35:27,177 --> 00:35:30,017 wrap it around the metal bar and use it as a winch 665 00:35:30,019 --> 00:35:32,342 to tighten the rope around the neck. 666 00:35:32,344 --> 00:35:34,644 I've never seen a murder weapon like that. 667 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:47,129 We found a journal belonging to Selim Esan... 668 00:35:58,741 --> 00:36:03,712 and a bracelet that had belonged to Skanda Navaratnam. 669 00:36:03,714 --> 00:36:08,250 Are they trophies, mementos... 670 00:36:09,229 --> 00:36:10,619 props? 671 00:36:10,621 --> 00:36:12,688 I don't know. 672 00:36:12,690 --> 00:36:14,846 It's extremely messed up. 673 00:36:14,848 --> 00:36:20,306 But to find that definitive link between Skanda and McArthur, 674 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:21,830 that was a huge moment. 675 00:36:22,832 --> 00:36:26,501 But we hadn't recovered any of the victims' remains. 676 00:36:26,503 --> 00:36:28,770 So there's still that nagging feeling. 677 00:36:28,772 --> 00:36:30,973 If we don't find these victims, 678 00:36:30,975 --> 00:36:34,543 we're not going to be able to prove these murders. 679 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,549 Police won't discuss how the 2 men died. 680 00:36:40,551 --> 00:36:43,051 They haven't even found their bodies. 681 00:36:43,053 --> 00:36:45,350 Detectives have been searching locations 682 00:36:45,352 --> 00:36:46,989 connected to McArthur. 683 00:36:46,991 --> 00:36:49,825 We have contacted owners of these properties 684 00:36:49,827 --> 00:36:52,327 and have conducted searches at the majority of them. 685 00:36:52,329 --> 00:36:55,998 We searched an address on Mallory Crescent.... 686 00:36:57,739 --> 00:37:01,136 ... where Mr. McArthur spent an awful lot of time 687 00:37:01,138 --> 00:37:04,206 and stored his landscaping equipment in the garage. 688 00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:11,962 And the cadaver dogs made some indications 689 00:37:11,964 --> 00:37:14,631 around the base of some planters. 690 00:37:21,031 --> 00:37:23,055 Police aren't mincing words. 691 00:37:23,057 --> 00:37:24,098 This, they say, 692 00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:27,375 is an unprecedented case and a chilling one. 693 00:37:27,377 --> 00:37:29,433 When they removed 2 large planters 694 00:37:29,435 --> 00:37:33,160 where McArthur stored his landscaping tools. 695 00:37:33,162 --> 00:37:35,372 We took the planters 696 00:37:35,374 --> 00:37:38,675 to the Ontario Forensic Pathology Services. 697 00:38:14,644 --> 00:38:19,135 The first thing we could see was a human skull. 698 00:38:19,137 --> 00:38:23,285 Whatever sick gratification McArthur has 699 00:38:23,287 --> 00:38:25,687 to do what he did, 700 00:38:25,689 --> 00:38:29,576 having the remains being disposed of 701 00:38:29,578 --> 00:38:33,279 in such a callous way, 702 00:38:34,554 --> 00:38:35,877 it hits home. 703 00:38:35,879 --> 00:38:38,400 And it hits home really, really hard. 704 00:38:42,805 --> 00:38:47,428 We have now identified the remains of individuals 705 00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:48,877 from these planters. 706 00:38:48,879 --> 00:38:52,414 Number one being Andrew Kinsman. 707 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:57,452 Number two being Soroush Mahmudi. 708 00:38:57,454 --> 00:39:02,124 Soroush was reported missing by family out in Scarborough. 709 00:39:02,126 --> 00:39:05,526 He was never linked to the Gay Village at all. 710 00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:13,389 And number three being Skanda Navaratnam. 711 00:39:16,272 --> 00:39:19,307 That was probably my most emotional moment 712 00:39:19,309 --> 00:39:21,576 during the entire investigation. 713 00:39:23,112 --> 00:39:26,314 Skanda was what started it all. 714 00:39:26,316 --> 00:39:28,150 To finally be able to say, 715 00:39:28,152 --> 00:39:30,552 "Now we know what happened to Skanda, 716 00:39:30,554 --> 00:39:32,654 and we've got the guy who did it..." 717 00:39:33,656 --> 00:39:37,259 it was a tough thing to deal with on that day. 718 00:39:42,165 --> 00:39:44,976 The next set of remains in the planters 719 00:39:44,978 --> 00:39:48,003 that we were able to positively identify, 720 00:39:48,005 --> 00:39:50,071 Selim Esan... 721 00:39:51,507 --> 00:39:53,341 Basir Faizi. 722 00:39:54,343 --> 00:39:57,879 Dean Lisowick was never reported as missing. 723 00:39:57,881 --> 00:39:59,386 Terrible story. 724 00:39:59,388 --> 00:40:03,151 Living on the streets, in the shelter systems 725 00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:06,188 and coming to an end like that. 726 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:10,992 And Kumar Kanagaratnam was a refugee from Sri Lanka 727 00:40:10,994 --> 00:40:12,994 who came to Canada. 728 00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:14,724 As it turned out, 729 00:40:14,726 --> 00:40:17,583 his refugee claim was rejected, 730 00:40:17,585 --> 00:40:20,202 and he disappeared. 731 00:40:20,204 --> 00:40:24,706 And his family never reported him missing. 732 00:40:27,577 --> 00:40:32,380 How can you not feel for these men 733 00:40:32,382 --> 00:40:36,818 and the very sad ending that they came upon? 734 00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:41,445 As Toronto Police forge ahead with their months-long probe 735 00:40:41,447 --> 00:40:43,675 of alleged serial killer Bruce McArthur, 736 00:40:43,677 --> 00:40:46,442 they have found another disturbing clue. 737 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:49,231 Police dogs led the team of forensic experts here, 738 00:40:49,233 --> 00:40:50,899 a ravine behind the home 739 00:40:50,901 --> 00:40:53,868 where McArthur stored his landscaping tools. 740 00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:57,858 Police confirm they've found remains 741 00:40:57,860 --> 00:40:59,626 in one of two piles of compost. 742 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,105 When we finally identified Majeed Kayhan, 743 00:41:04,107 --> 00:41:06,748 obviously, that was a huge moment. 744 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,485 Majeed had been one of the original 3 missing persons 745 00:41:10,487 --> 00:41:11,987 from Project Houston. 746 00:41:13,456 --> 00:41:17,435 Members of the gay community stood together tonight, 747 00:41:17,437 --> 00:41:20,028 lighting candles, saying prayers, holding vigil. 748 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:28,245 I don't think it's something that will ever leave me 749 00:41:28,247 --> 00:41:30,680 or family or friends of the victims. 750 00:41:31,908 --> 00:41:34,894 It's still tough to look at pictures. 751 00:41:34,896 --> 00:41:37,682 I've got this montage of pictures 752 00:41:37,684 --> 00:41:39,984 of all 8 of the victims. 753 00:41:45,179 --> 00:41:49,472 The more you learn about them and their stories, 754 00:41:49,474 --> 00:41:50,792 the harder it is, 755 00:41:50,794 --> 00:41:53,499 even though you never even knew them, 756 00:41:53,501 --> 00:41:55,357 to really come to terms 757 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:58,527 with what happened to them in the end. 758 00:41:59,558 --> 00:42:05,580 _ 759 00:42:05,582 --> 00:42:12,482 _ 760 00:42:13,633 --> 00:42:17,655 _ 761 00:42:17,657 --> 00:42:22,157 _ 762 00:42:23,149 --> 00:42:28,187 _ 763 00:42:28,189 --> 00:42:30,723 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 764 00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:40,439 _ 765 00:42:42,565 --> 00:42:48,765 _ 766 00:42:51,344 --> 00:42:57,844 _ 57705

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