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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:38,947 --> 00:01:47,878 This program contains scenes which some viewers may find disturbing. 2 00:03:44,886 --> 00:03:48,390 When I first entered St John's, I loved it. 3 00:03:50,069 --> 00:03:52,761 The campus of that school was beautiful. 4 00:03:59,067 --> 00:04:01,903 Such magnificent stonework. 5 00:04:04,694 --> 00:04:06,569 It was like a castle. 6 00:04:11,078 --> 00:04:12,558 I loved that school. 7 00:04:15,965 --> 00:04:19,607 Our school had a magnificent statue of Jesus Christ 8 00:04:19,685 --> 00:04:23,929 with his hands lovingly placed on the heads of two children. 9 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:27,052 I could see that Jesus loved children. 10 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:29,934 And the children loved Jesus too. 11 00:04:31,971 --> 00:04:34,378 My name is Gary Smith. 12 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:39,826 I was four in 1954 and I really liked being at school. 13 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:41,908 I liked being in the dorm. 14 00:04:41,967 --> 00:04:44,977 The dorm was cooler than being at home with my parents, 15 00:04:45,023 --> 00:04:47,588 because I didn't have any siblings. 16 00:04:48,769 --> 00:04:51,348 When I first got to the school, I loved it, 17 00:04:51,402 --> 00:04:52,950 because there were so many children 18 00:04:53,071 --> 00:04:55,059 around the same age as me who I could play with 19 00:04:55,137 --> 00:04:59,123 and they were good people, it was a good group of friends. 20 00:04:59,731 --> 00:05:02,637 In 1953, I was four years old. 21 00:05:02,712 --> 00:05:06,306 I remember when I got there, I couldn't stop crying. 22 00:05:06,823 --> 00:05:09,026 Then, I was looking up at a nun, 23 00:05:09,094 --> 00:05:12,232 she was wearing her black-and-white robes. 24 00:05:13,913 --> 00:05:18,316 I was looking at the nun and my parents left. 25 00:05:32,086 --> 00:05:34,777 Every morning, we'd have mass. 26 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,136 The priest would use incense 27 00:05:37,663 --> 00:05:40,050 and the smell would fill the room. 28 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:45,550 I felt like we were in heaven. 29 00:05:48,772 --> 00:05:52,451 I wanted to be a Catholic, like everyone else. 30 00:05:52,586 --> 00:05:58,197 And so, when I was ten, Father Murphy baptized me. 31 00:06:01,711 --> 00:06:03,633 Murphy would hug children. 32 00:06:03,895 --> 00:06:07,281 All the kids just loved him, they always flocked to him. 33 00:06:07,579 --> 00:06:10,305 He would play with the kids and the nuns would stand around 34 00:06:10,374 --> 00:06:12,194 and just watching and smiling. 35 00:06:12,331 --> 00:06:15,840 I wanted Murphy's attention, like all the other kids, I needed him. 36 00:06:15,902 --> 00:06:18,573 He was like a second father to me. 37 00:06:19,394 --> 00:06:23,292 He had this ability like the Pied Piper - 38 00:06:23,355 --> 00:06:27,221 to just get all rats to follow him and do whatever he wanted. 39 00:06:29,087 --> 00:06:30,884 Father Murphy knew how to sign 40 00:06:30,943 --> 00:06:33,462 and he could communicate with all the kids. 41 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:40,200 He was a hearing man who could sign and sign very well. 42 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:42,204 I remember looking at him and thinking, 43 00:06:42,282 --> 00:06:44,799 "Wow, that's really impressive." 44 00:06:56,105 --> 00:06:59,822 Lawrence Murphy was raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin 45 00:07:00,066 --> 00:07:04,158 and entered the St Francis Seminary in 1943. 46 00:07:06,095 --> 00:07:09,806 After he was ordained as a priest in 1950, 47 00:07:10,021 --> 00:07:15,169 he moved next door on assignment to St John's School For The Deaf. 48 00:07:16,783 --> 00:07:19,575 He had a knack for public speaking and fundraising 49 00:07:19,661 --> 00:07:24,755 and, by 1963, he was promoted to director of St John's. 50 00:07:28,065 --> 00:07:30,543 After Father Murphy baptized me, 51 00:07:30,687 --> 00:07:33,590 I felt proud, I felt better. 52 00:07:33,694 --> 00:07:38,834 I was excited and couldn't wait to have my first communion when I was 12. 53 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:49,598 Later on, I got into trouble at school. 54 00:07:49,735 --> 00:07:54,114 I was mischievous and the nuns would come and say, 55 00:07:54,223 --> 00:07:58,309 "Go to Father's room." And so, I did. 56 00:08:13,872 --> 00:08:18,330 In the confessional booth, there was a dividing wall. 57 00:08:20,003 --> 00:08:26,140 But there was a little space that you could see his face through. 58 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,517 So you could sign back and forth. 59 00:08:31,740 --> 00:08:33,485 And he would bless you. 60 00:08:41,562 --> 00:08:44,095 I filled out the confession form. 61 00:08:44,601 --> 00:08:49,679 The form listed stealing, lying, sex and things like that. 62 00:08:49,850 --> 00:08:54,108 I would mark things off and turn it in. 63 00:08:54,659 --> 00:08:59,107 Father Murphy looked at it and then asked me really weird questions like, 64 00:08:59,198 --> 00:09:01,279 "Have you been with other boys?" 65 00:09:01,459 --> 00:09:03,592 I would say: "I played with myself." 66 00:09:03,678 --> 00:09:05,593 And he would ask detailed questions, 67 00:09:05,702 --> 00:09:08,210 like "How?" or "What did you do?" 68 00:09:08,273 --> 00:09:08,992 And then he said, 69 00:09:09,070 --> 00:09:11,609 "OK. I want to see you in my office this afternoon!" 70 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,734 So I said, "OK", and left the booth, 71 00:09:13,835 --> 00:09:15,059 and kneel to pray. 72 00:09:15,202 --> 00:09:18,445 He asked me, "Have you been playing with your penis?" 73 00:09:18,505 --> 00:09:20,466 And I told him, "No." 74 00:09:21,592 --> 00:09:23,717 But he gave me one of his looks. 75 00:09:25,692 --> 00:09:30,685 And it scared me. So I admitted that, yeah, I play with myself. 76 00:09:31,539 --> 00:09:35,539 He told me to pull down my pants and to do it right there. 77 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:39,671 So I played with myself for a little bit. 78 00:09:40,912 --> 00:09:43,976 He watched me intently until I was done. 79 00:09:44,491 --> 00:09:46,984 Then, he told me that God forgave me 80 00:09:47,055 --> 00:09:51,821 and I felt like my sins had been wiped away. 81 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:55,894 He could have been playing with himself for all I know, 82 00:09:56,006 --> 00:09:58,152 but I couldn't see. 83 00:10:05,888 --> 00:10:09,785 I remember one afternoon I went to Murphy's office 84 00:10:09,898 --> 00:10:14,769 and he closed the door and he told me to take off my pants. 85 00:10:15,638 --> 00:10:18,298 And I said, "Take off my pants?" 86 00:10:18,644 --> 00:10:23,119 I was shocked. And I thought, "Why would I have to do that?" 87 00:10:23,170 --> 00:10:27,400 And I was looking at this man in a black suit, the white-collar, 88 00:10:27,435 --> 00:10:32,158 and I thought to myself, "He's a priest and I'm supposed to obey him." 89 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:37,010 So I took my pants down and he molested me. 90 00:10:38,928 --> 00:10:43,673 I felt sick and confused. 91 00:10:43,789 --> 00:10:46,073 "Why would a priest do that to me? 92 00:10:46,249 --> 00:10:50,471 "Is this supposed to be OK? Did I do something wrong?" I didn't know. 93 00:10:50,725 --> 00:10:52,954 After it happened, I just left. 94 00:10:55,607 --> 00:10:58,213 And I just kept it to myself. 95 00:11:08,222 --> 00:11:10,850 Later on, Father Murphy decided 96 00:11:10,905 --> 00:11:14,202 that confessional would be on the second floor, in the closet. 97 00:11:22,087 --> 00:11:24,484 I confessed my sins. 98 00:11:25,165 --> 00:11:29,204 I was forgiven and blessed, and then I was touched. 99 00:11:29,742 --> 00:11:33,047 I started sweating like crazy... ... so nervous. 100 00:11:33,204 --> 00:11:34,973 I just feel myself shaking 101 00:11:35,071 --> 00:11:38,079 Just kept thinking: Enough! Enough! 102 00:11:39,688 --> 00:11:42,531 when father murphy stopped, I went to bed right away. 103 00:11:42,727 --> 00:11:45,086 And I was just sick, I was just sick. 104 00:11:45,175 --> 00:11:46,331 And I lied in bed, 105 00:11:46,425 --> 00:11:50,323 under the covers and I felt absolutely disgusted. 106 00:11:58,999 --> 00:12:02,121 I was a monk, I was a very pious monk. 107 00:12:02,277 --> 00:12:05,691 I folded my hands, kept my eyes down, did my studies. 108 00:12:05,730 --> 00:12:08,038 I lived in the system. 109 00:12:09,468 --> 00:12:13,586 Richard Sipe spent 18 years as a Benedictine monk. 110 00:12:14,049 --> 00:12:18,096 He was also a therapist counselling his fellow priests. 111 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:26,184 Sex in celibacy became central to my research and understanding. 112 00:12:26,286 --> 00:12:29,177 Sipe began what became a 25-year study 113 00:12:29,223 --> 00:12:32,005 examining celibacy in the priesthood. 114 00:12:32,103 --> 00:12:38,626 My intent was that this would help in the training of priests. 115 00:12:38,821 --> 00:12:41,572 I felt that I could make a contribution 116 00:12:41,595 --> 00:12:45,682 by being honest about it. 117 00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:48,318 The data showed that at any one time, 118 00:12:48,386 --> 00:12:54,490 no more than 50% of American Roman Catholic priests were practicing celibacy. 119 00:12:54,709 --> 00:12:57,755 There were certain levels of experimentation, 120 00:12:57,833 --> 00:13:00,255 relationships, involvement 121 00:13:00,255 --> 00:13:04,052 and even criminal involvement with children. 122 00:13:04,052 --> 00:13:08,951 And the more I got into it, the more and more discouraged I got. 123 00:13:10,898 --> 00:13:14,404 They know that celibacy is not practiced. 124 00:13:14,404 --> 00:13:17,325 By "they", I mean Vatican authorities, 125 00:13:17,325 --> 00:13:21,457 I mean bishops, I mean religious superiors. 126 00:13:21,457 --> 00:13:24,421 And the higher you go, the more they know. 127 00:13:25,322 --> 00:13:28,511 You may not be keeping your celibacy, 128 00:13:28,511 --> 00:13:31,520 but as long as it's secret, it's OK. 129 00:13:33,997 --> 00:13:36,107 Sipe found that clericalism, 130 00:13:36,107 --> 00:13:39,446 setting a priest on a pedestal above ordinary lay people, 131 00:13:39,446 --> 00:13:42,629 helped to prop up the secret system. 132 00:13:42,777 --> 00:13:45,373 Kids would come forward to their parents and say, 133 00:13:45,373 --> 00:13:47,168 "Well, Father did this to me." 134 00:13:47,168 --> 00:13:51,175 "Oh, don't you say that! You can't say that about a priest!" 135 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,622 Which then allowed priests to express themselves sexually, 136 00:13:57,540 --> 00:14:02,402 some from time to time and some in horrendous ways. 137 00:14:03,844 --> 00:14:08,569 Sipe recognised the syndrome that police call Noble Cause Corruption - 138 00:14:08,757 --> 00:14:12,586 a belief that good intentions purify bad behaviour. 139 00:14:12,586 --> 00:14:16,593 For a priest, belief in his own goodness can transform, 140 00:14:16,726 --> 00:14:19,562 like turning bread into the body of Christ, 141 00:14:19,657 --> 00:14:22,394 a perversion into a holy act. 142 00:14:23,375 --> 00:14:27,821 A priest who had an affair with this 12, 13-year-old girl 143 00:14:27,945 --> 00:14:33,804 brought to one of their encounters what he said was a consecrated host 144 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,046 and he touched it to her vagina and he said, 145 00:14:38,046 --> 00:14:40,258 "This is how God loves you." 146 00:14:40,258 --> 00:14:42,178 And then, he raped her. 147 00:14:43,556 --> 00:14:46,602 It goes from just this broad social acceptance 148 00:14:46,602 --> 00:14:49,107 that the priest is perfect, the Pope is perfect, 149 00:14:49,107 --> 00:14:54,366 to this kind of perversion of power that can be twisted in this way. 150 00:14:57,846 --> 00:15:00,895 The system of the Catholic clergy, 151 00:15:01,244 --> 00:15:03,314 for which I have great respect 152 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:06,805 and to which I have given many years of my life, 153 00:15:07,016 --> 00:15:11,930 selects, cultivates, protects, 154 00:15:12,164 --> 00:15:17,126 defends and produces sexual abusers. 155 00:15:51,356 --> 00:15:55,030 I went to bed one night and, before I fell asleep, 156 00:15:55,145 --> 00:15:58,449 I could see Murphy creeping into our room, 157 00:15:58,551 --> 00:16:00,534 like a ravenous wolf. 158 00:16:05,978 --> 00:16:08,018 I could see him sit on a bed 159 00:16:08,111 --> 00:16:11,529 in the dim light of the illuminated exit sign. 160 00:16:11,779 --> 00:16:14,833 And I saw that he was molesting a boy. 161 00:16:17,762 --> 00:16:21,324 I imagined Jesus crying on the cross with a broken heart 162 00:16:21,393 --> 00:16:23,747 wondering why Murphy was doing this. 163 00:16:25,715 --> 00:16:28,396 Why was Jesus just watching? 164 00:16:31,641 --> 00:16:33,533 He would walk in like a cat. 165 00:16:33,969 --> 00:16:37,001 Of course we couldn't hear him, but someone would open their eyes 166 00:16:37,041 --> 00:16:40,757 and see a dark shadow passing by and they knew it was him. 167 00:16:41,727 --> 00:16:45,511 I would see how he would go and pick out certain boys. 168 00:16:45,925 --> 00:16:50,233 He knew which boys wouldn't object if he went to them. 169 00:16:52,833 --> 00:16:56,301 The boys noticed that Father Murphy would single out students 170 00:16:56,370 --> 00:16:59,043 with hearing parents who couldn't sign 171 00:16:59,688 --> 00:17:02,233 so that the children couldn't tell their parents 172 00:17:02,319 --> 00:17:03,925 what was happening to them. 173 00:17:06,823 --> 00:17:08,223 He favoured me. He wanted me. 174 00:17:08,951 --> 00:17:10,177 He wanted me. 175 00:17:11,108 --> 00:17:13,558 He liked seeing me ejaculate. 176 00:17:13,895 --> 00:17:17,794 He got what he wanted and he would leave, that was his thing. 177 00:17:18,237 --> 00:17:19,537 He was... 178 00:17:20,028 --> 00:17:21,254 sick. 179 00:17:25,142 --> 00:17:26,789 I was afraid to tell my mother 180 00:17:26,852 --> 00:17:29,781 because I didn't think she would believe me. 181 00:17:29,964 --> 00:17:34,061 She'd say, "A priest would never do something like that to children." 182 00:17:34,447 --> 00:17:36,159 I kept it a secret. 183 00:17:37,962 --> 00:17:40,821 My mother had already been through so much pain. 184 00:17:40,912 --> 00:17:43,066 My brother had been electrocuted, 185 00:17:43,223 --> 00:17:45,642 my father had hung himself. 186 00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:49,763 My mother had been through so much pain and I didn't want to hurt her. 187 00:17:58,408 --> 00:18:01,436 It was hard for me to communicate with my father 188 00:18:01,507 --> 00:18:05,999 and so, my dad would speak and Father Murphy would interpret. 189 00:18:06,548 --> 00:18:09,333 My father never wrote back and forth 190 00:18:09,396 --> 00:18:12,083 because I didn't know how to write well, 191 00:18:12,161 --> 00:18:16,419 so I depended on Father Murphy and the nuns 192 00:18:16,587 --> 00:18:18,733 to communicate with my father. 193 00:18:19,659 --> 00:18:22,854 My parents were hearing, so we used home signs, 194 00:18:22,947 --> 00:18:24,830 not true American Sign Language. 195 00:18:24,909 --> 00:18:28,587 We had some gestures for things like eating and for how the scolded me, 196 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:30,614 but they wouldn't actually sign "Bad", 197 00:18:30,614 --> 00:18:32,595 they would wag their finger at me. 198 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:36,610 And there was no TTY, and my parents were far away, 199 00:18:36,665 --> 00:18:40,000 so how could we possibly have communicated? 200 00:18:41,533 --> 00:18:42,900 Murphy took advantage 201 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,717 of children in that situation. 202 00:18:49,843 --> 00:18:53,384 My question is, what about the sisters? 203 00:18:53,719 --> 00:18:57,449 Where were the nuns who were supposed to be watching the children? 204 00:18:59,483 --> 00:19:01,443 The nuns should have been able to hear, 205 00:19:01,503 --> 00:19:05,381 but they turned their heads and looked the other way. 206 00:19:07,673 --> 00:19:09,523 Murphy wasn't the only one 207 00:19:09,570 --> 00:19:12,591 that nuns should have heard creeping through the dorms at night. 208 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:17,157 Murphy enlisted older boys in an organized system of abuse. 209 00:19:17,751 --> 00:19:19,915 One of these was Tom Tannehill, 210 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:23,533 a high-school student who had been molested by Murphy. 211 00:19:23,689 --> 00:19:27,478 As a dorm supervisor, Tom had used threats of discipline 212 00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:30,548 to force victim to perform oral sex on him. 213 00:19:30,892 --> 00:19:35,359 Pat Kuehn was only seven when Tom first molested him. 214 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:40,143 He now believes that Tom was breaking him in for Murphy. 215 00:19:41,884 --> 00:19:44,867 I was very innocent, naive. 216 00:19:45,126 --> 00:19:50,043 After the first time Tom played with me, I got used to it. 217 00:19:51,330 --> 00:19:55,414 I felt so excited that he chose me out of all the others. 218 00:19:55,686 --> 00:19:57,726 It made me feel special. 219 00:20:04,103 --> 00:20:07,877 Bambi was the first movie that I watched with captioning. 220 00:20:09,168 --> 00:20:10,898 Which was really exciting. 221 00:20:12,434 --> 00:20:16,644 I was sitting towards the back of the audience, on the boys' side, 222 00:20:16,852 --> 00:20:21,104 Father Murphy walked up behind me and pushed me in the back of the head. 223 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:25,972 So I looked up and I waived because I thought he was just saying hi. 224 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:28,441 And then, I went back to watching. 225 00:20:29,151 --> 00:20:33,152 And he nudged me again, so I acknowledged him. 226 00:20:33,406 --> 00:20:34,917 I think about it now 227 00:20:34,955 --> 00:20:37,861 and it was probably his penis bumping up against me. 228 00:20:38,001 --> 00:20:39,713 He was playing with me. 229 00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:51,150 In 1963, Father Murphy went away for a few weeks. 230 00:20:52,048 --> 00:20:53,272 During his absence, 231 00:20:53,313 --> 00:20:57,001 there was a visiting priest from Chicago named Father Walsh. 232 00:20:58,634 --> 00:21:02,443 I could see Father Walsh signing and I was watching him 233 00:21:02,532 --> 00:21:06,139 and I thought, "You know what? I'm going to try my best to tell him." 234 00:21:06,327 --> 00:21:08,173 I think it was in confession. 235 00:21:08,341 --> 00:21:11,868 And so, I told Father Walsh about Father Murphy molesting me. 236 00:21:12,222 --> 00:21:16,861 He didn't say anything, but I could see his facial expression change. 237 00:21:17,642 --> 00:21:21,486 A week went by and I knew his last day was going to be Friday 238 00:21:21,528 --> 00:21:23,751 and Father Murphy had come back. 239 00:21:24,290 --> 00:21:27,197 Father Murphy comes walking into my classroom 240 00:21:27,271 --> 00:21:29,525 and called Father Walsh. 241 00:21:30,004 --> 00:21:32,392 When I saw that, I knew this was it. 242 00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:34,234 I got up from my chair 243 00:21:34,294 --> 00:21:37,118 and I went and peeked around the coroner from my classroom. 244 00:21:37,197 --> 00:21:41,600 I could see Father Walsh and Father Murphy getting into a huge fight down the hallway. 245 00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:46,890 I went back and sat at my desk and I didn't say a word about it. 246 00:21:47,742 --> 00:21:50,837 Murphy came back and nothing was ever said. 247 00:21:52,176 --> 00:21:55,591 The following year, I was hoping Father Walsh would return, 248 00:21:55,701 --> 00:21:57,339 but he didn't come back. 249 00:21:57,535 --> 00:22:01,535 He didn't come back the second year, he didn't come back the third year, 250 00:22:01,672 --> 00:22:03,403 he just never came back. 251 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:14,386 During the summer months, 252 00:22:14,425 --> 00:22:16,939 Murphy would take some of the boys up to his cabin, 253 00:22:16,986 --> 00:22:18,653 in northern Wisconsin. 254 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:22,220 Murphy would ask the boys to choose 255 00:22:22,285 --> 00:22:25,213 which one of them would sleep in the bed with him. 256 00:22:26,142 --> 00:22:29,988 They all pointed at me to have to sleep in the same bed as Father Murphy 257 00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:33,590 And Father Murphy molested me again 258 00:22:33,637 --> 00:22:35,902 But I never touched him, I refused, 259 00:22:35,981 --> 00:22:37,301 ... but he would touch me. 260 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,496 And everybody knew that, and they just left me alone, 261 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:42,676 and didn't say anything. 262 00:22:42,786 --> 00:22:44,950 Father Murphy asked who was going to sleep with him. 263 00:22:45,036 --> 00:22:47,801 and all of us pointed at this kid, Joe, and said, "He is." 264 00:22:48,244 --> 00:22:50,051 I didn't want to be picked. 265 00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:52,770 Poor Joe, I feel bad that we picked him. 266 00:22:53,962 --> 00:22:58,594 Murphy encouraged many of the children he abused to raise money for St John's. 267 00:22:59,071 --> 00:23:01,992 As deft students they were told to target bars 268 00:23:02,024 --> 00:23:05,055 with sympathetic drinkers who were more free with their money. 269 00:23:05,533 --> 00:23:09,336 Terry raised so much money he won a motorbyke. 270 00:23:09,969 --> 00:23:12,975 When Murphy took Gary and the other seniors on a road trip 271 00:23:13,047 --> 00:23:15,983 to look at colleges in Washington and New York, 272 00:23:16,728 --> 00:23:19,578 he molested Gary almost every night. 273 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:22,972 I was afraid if I said "No", he would be mad. 274 00:23:23,016 --> 00:23:24,760 I just didn't know what to do. 275 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,751 I got used to it and didn't care. 276 00:23:26,853 --> 00:23:30,885 I just wanted to graduate and get out of there and feel better. 277 00:23:41,805 --> 00:23:46,038 You know, between the ages of 26 and 31, I was baptized 278 00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:48,080 in a very radical way 279 00:23:48,141 --> 00:23:50,561 to know that this wasn't an anomaly, 280 00:23:50,641 --> 00:23:52,359 that this was a pattern, 281 00:23:52,422 --> 00:23:55,755 that there are treatment centers. 282 00:23:55,876 --> 00:23:57,265 Before ordination, 283 00:23:57,329 --> 00:24:01,330 I had no idea that we had treatment centers around the world 284 00:24:01,486 --> 00:24:03,722 for priests to go to when they sexually molested, 285 00:24:03,769 --> 00:24:06,282 raped and sodomized kids. 286 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:07,951 I didn't know that. 287 00:24:08,131 --> 00:24:10,310 My parents didn't know that. 288 00:24:11,071 --> 00:24:14,752 I didn't know that we had 55 molesters in my monastery. 289 00:24:14,837 --> 00:24:17,540 I didn't know there were more than 70 molesters 290 00:24:17,594 --> 00:24:20,017 operating in the US dioceses. 291 00:24:20,185 --> 00:24:22,223 That wasn't public knowledge. 292 00:24:23,027 --> 00:24:24,742 Shortly after his ordination, 293 00:24:24,804 --> 00:24:27,952 at St John's Abbey, in Collegeville, Minnesota, 294 00:24:28,272 --> 00:24:31,382 Patrick Wall was given a special assignment - 295 00:24:32,101 --> 00:24:36,309 traveling the country putting out fires for the Church. 296 00:24:36,819 --> 00:24:40,242 The sexually abusive priest has to be completely removed, 297 00:24:40,272 --> 00:24:43,175 his stuff was removed, and then, there's another guy, 298 00:24:43,272 --> 00:24:46,151 basically, another black-and-white who's placed in there, 299 00:24:46,187 --> 00:24:48,374 to make sure that the normal things happen - 300 00:24:48,437 --> 00:24:51,781 that people are baptized, people are married, people are buried 301 00:24:51,876 --> 00:24:55,538 and the normal life of the parish can continue. 302 00:24:56,273 --> 00:24:59,213 I thought I was going there to uncover the crime, 303 00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:00,745 to heal the wounds, 304 00:25:00,797 --> 00:25:02,463 I thought it was pastoral care, 305 00:25:02,509 --> 00:25:05,800 you know, comfort the afflicted, what we're ordained for. 306 00:25:06,007 --> 00:25:11,233 But the people sending me in obviously had ulterior motives. 307 00:25:11,619 --> 00:25:13,741 You know, they would give you authorization 308 00:25:13,827 --> 00:25:16,859 up to $250,000 to settle a case 309 00:25:16,859 --> 00:25:19,779 if you could get a confidentiality order. 310 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,234 And, in 1995, we had a budget of $7 million 311 00:25:24,332 --> 00:25:27,893 to handle the various problems of childhood sexual abuse. 312 00:25:29,834 --> 00:25:32,700 And most people don't want to have anything go public. 313 00:25:32,769 --> 00:25:36,126 I mean, in the Catholic mindset, you don't sue the Church. 314 00:25:36,603 --> 00:25:39,123 They want to know that it's going to stop. 315 00:25:39,931 --> 00:25:42,599 When Wall found out that it didn't stop, 316 00:25:42,661 --> 00:25:45,832 that offending priests were allowed to stay in ministry, 317 00:25:45,965 --> 00:25:47,834 he left the priesthood. 318 00:25:48,697 --> 00:25:50,646 That was part of your brief, 319 00:25:50,797 --> 00:25:54,533 to report these things to the local authorities? 320 00:25:54,627 --> 00:25:56,017 Never. 321 00:25:56,571 --> 00:25:58,831 That's the worldwide policy - 322 00:25:58,964 --> 00:26:01,087 to snuff out scandal. 323 00:26:27,741 --> 00:26:29,873 Bob Bolger was another student 324 00:26:29,931 --> 00:26:32,852 who was abused at St John's by Father Murphy. 325 00:26:33,384 --> 00:26:35,384 After graduating from college, 326 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:37,696 he began hanging out with Arthur and Gary 327 00:26:37,876 --> 00:26:39,900 and found an unexpected way back 328 00:26:39,962 --> 00:26:41,918 to memories of St John's. 329 00:26:58,512 --> 00:27:01,858 HE PANTS 330 00:27:02,157 --> 00:27:07,351 I started getting these revelations, these memories. 331 00:27:11,242 --> 00:27:13,968 Finally, I woke up and I was furious 332 00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:17,398 and the more we worked on it, the angrier I got. 333 00:27:17,963 --> 00:27:20,765 I had kept this quiet for so long 334 00:27:20,819 --> 00:27:23,179 and not said anything to anyone. 335 00:27:24,348 --> 00:27:27,302 It suddenly hit me just how wrong this was. 336 00:27:28,412 --> 00:27:32,562 And Bob was like, "Go to the police station, now, go!" 337 00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:34,921 And Gary was thrown off guard. 338 00:27:35,181 --> 00:27:37,961 And Bob said, "If you're angry, Gary, then go. 339 00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,941 "Go to the police station. Now, go!" 340 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:43,875 I've got to tell you- I'm shaking 341 00:27:47,151 --> 00:27:50,164 We went out to the police station and went in. 342 00:27:50,231 --> 00:27:53,023 Bob was writing back and forth with the officer 343 00:27:53,078 --> 00:27:55,033 because he had good English skills. 344 00:27:55,835 --> 00:27:59,434 And then, two police officers told us to stay in a room. 345 00:28:00,650 --> 00:28:04,074 And we waited and waited and waited. 346 00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:08,613 And I went to open the door and the door was locked. 347 00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:13,800 And then, two detectives came into the room and said, "You can go." 348 00:28:13,857 --> 00:28:16,777 And we were all excited about being able to leave. 349 00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:20,909 And guessing that the detectives had already talked to Murphy. 350 00:28:24,567 --> 00:28:26,348 We waited for a week to go by, 351 00:28:26,426 --> 00:28:28,684 then another week went by and then another. 352 00:28:28,755 --> 00:28:31,988 We didn't hear a thing. It was just sickening. 353 00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:37,116 Murphy had told them that it wasn't true and the kids were making it up. 354 00:28:37,495 --> 00:28:39,407 That we were just little troublemakers. 355 00:28:40,707 --> 00:28:43,183 It started to bother me more and more 356 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:45,951 because I was hearing that he was molesting other kids. 357 00:28:46,012 --> 00:28:49,452 I was mad and I wanted to protect these deaf kids. 358 00:28:49,484 --> 00:28:53,437 And it was time to do something about it. And we did. 359 00:28:54,155 --> 00:28:55,811 It was Bob's idea. 360 00:29:00,056 --> 00:29:02,559 We didn't put the reason why on the flyer, 361 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:05,223 we just wanted it to be a warning to people. 362 00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:08,962 When the school would hold a fundraiser, 363 00:29:09,033 --> 00:29:11,264 they'd go to the cars that were parked at the school 364 00:29:11,327 --> 00:29:12,873 and they would put this flyer, 365 00:29:12,929 --> 00:29:17,664 you know, don't give money to this man because he abuses these kids. 366 00:29:17,734 --> 00:29:21,109 I was shocked and I tried to advise Bob 367 00:29:21,244 --> 00:29:26,595 that, you know, this was not really the way to fix this. 368 00:29:29,369 --> 00:29:31,770 He was caught up in the era of activism 369 00:29:31,824 --> 00:29:35,040 and he was really trying to get deaf people 370 00:29:35,078 --> 00:29:36,797 to kind of stand up for themselves. 371 00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:42,235 At John Conway's suggestion, they hired a lawyer 372 00:29:42,292 --> 00:29:46,115 and began collecting sworn affidavits from Murphy's victims. 373 00:29:46,201 --> 00:29:48,948 The idea was to submit these affidavits, 374 00:29:48,993 --> 00:29:50,818 which were very graphic and very clear, 375 00:29:50,888 --> 00:29:56,239 to Archbishop Cousins and then, we thought the matter would be finished, 376 00:29:56,276 --> 00:29:59,138 we thought that the priest would be removed from the school. 377 00:29:59,704 --> 00:30:03,044 The Church's response was silence. 378 00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:06,467 Determined to make their voices heard, 379 00:30:06,523 --> 00:30:09,740 Bob, Arthur and Gary went to the Milwaukee Cathedral 380 00:30:09,793 --> 00:30:12,271 and handed out their flyers to passers-by. 381 00:30:12,334 --> 00:30:17,654 Suddenly, they were granted a meeting with Archbishop Cousins. 382 00:30:17,734 --> 00:30:20,296 The Archbishop was there, Father Murphy was there. 383 00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:23,390 In fact, Father Murphy sat right next to me. 384 00:30:23,535 --> 00:30:25,968 He would look down, look around, 385 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,647 he was not going to make eye contact with us. 386 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:32,101 There were some teachers from the school, 387 00:30:32,132 --> 00:30:35,780 several leaders that I knew in the deaf community that were there 388 00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:39,468 to speak in support of Father Murphy 389 00:30:39,687 --> 00:30:42,187 In the group were two priests. 390 00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:46,998 They were described by the Archbishop as members of the Vatican. 391 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:50,250 And the Archbishop thanked us for bringing this matter 392 00:30:50,321 --> 00:30:52,055 to the attention of the Archdiocese. 393 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:55,321 He allowed that this problem had existed before, 394 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,791 and he mentioned that back as far as 1960, 395 00:30:58,862 --> 00:31:00,711 this matter had been addressed. 396 00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:03,651 Cousins would deny having said this, 397 00:31:03,735 --> 00:31:07,885 but an investigation revealed that, even before 1960, 398 00:31:07,938 --> 00:31:10,930 Father Walsh had tried to do something about Murphy. 399 00:31:11,484 --> 00:31:14,845 Having heard complaints from Arthur and from other students, 400 00:31:14,845 --> 00:31:18,103 Walsh reported the accusations to Cousins' predecessor, 401 00:31:18,228 --> 00:31:20,126 Archbishop Meyer. 402 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,498 Meyer went to Murphy and he confessed to the abuse, 403 00:31:23,663 --> 00:31:26,384 but Murphy was not dismissed. 404 00:31:26,665 --> 00:31:28,812 He went away in a short retreat 405 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:30,587 before being invited back 406 00:31:30,669 --> 00:31:33,488 to supervise children at St John's. 407 00:31:35,247 --> 00:31:38,334 Other deaf people had told Father Walsh 408 00:31:38,475 --> 00:31:41,699 and then, Father Walsh told Meyer in 1957. 409 00:31:41,918 --> 00:31:45,558 And then, I said something in 1963. 410 00:31:47,237 --> 00:31:50,261 It turned out that Walsh had made the same report 411 00:31:50,346 --> 00:31:52,266 to the office of the Papal Nuncio, 412 00:31:52,376 --> 00:31:55,233 the Vatican Ambassador in Washington DC. 413 00:31:56,216 --> 00:31:59,291 So by this meeting, in 1974, 414 00:31:59,391 --> 00:32:03,838 the Vatican had known about Murphy for almost 20 years. 415 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,955 This was known and it had been dealt with in the past. 416 00:32:08,006 --> 00:32:12,951 So there was just no question about the validity of the complaints 417 00:32:13,716 --> 00:32:17,782 We immediately said Father Murphy has to be removed from the school. 418 00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:22,255 Murphy said, "No, I take care of the budget and the money and everything." 419 00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:24,716 And Archbishop Cousins got very angry. 420 00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:27,550 He started scolding and arguing with us. 421 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:31,615 I'm thinking, "Wow, I can't believe this. Where was his compassion? 422 00:32:31,677 --> 00:32:33,686 "Where was his wanting to listen to this?" 423 00:32:33,872 --> 00:32:37,830 So we eventually kind of walked out, the Archbishop's saying to me 424 00:32:37,885 --> 00:32:40,510 that he was very upset because he thought he was dealing 425 00:32:40,589 --> 00:32:42,386 with a person of good faith. 426 00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:47,986 I told him I thought I was dealing with a person of good faith as well. 427 00:32:53,188 --> 00:32:57,485 When deposed years later Archbishop Cousins recalled the meeting, 428 00:32:57,562 --> 00:33:01,743 he said that, at the time, he did not find the allegations credible. 429 00:33:01,924 --> 00:33:05,821 He had conducted an investigation and found no proof. 430 00:33:06,792 --> 00:33:08,821 When asked what steps he had taken 431 00:33:08,897 --> 00:33:11,232 to determine the veracity of the allegations, 432 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:14,975 Cousins said that he had interviewed Murphy and the school staff. 433 00:33:15,673 --> 00:33:18,318 When the lawyer asked if he had interviewed students, 434 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:21,420 Cousins admitted that he hadn't bothered to talk to them. 435 00:33:21,714 --> 00:33:25,539 "After all," he said, "The students are deaf." 436 00:33:27,793 --> 00:33:32,316 After getting nowhere with Archdiocese and being told by the Police 437 00:33:32,353 --> 00:33:34,326 that the Statute of Limitations had past 438 00:33:34,962 --> 00:33:38,386 the men approached the Milwaukee DA's office with their concerns 439 00:33:38,441 --> 00:33:40,074 about ongoing abuse. 440 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,316 Bob Bolger, Gary and I went to the Milwaukee Courthouse downtown. 441 00:33:45,503 --> 00:33:48,284 And we started handing out these flyers. 442 00:33:49,274 --> 00:33:52,300 And all the hearing people were shocked. 443 00:33:56,816 --> 00:34:00,640 And Bob put the flyer on DA Michael McCann's desk. 444 00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:05,000 Nobody talked to us, we said nothing, 445 00:34:05,041 --> 00:34:06,922 we just kept handing them out. 446 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:09,851 The DA's office took notice of the flyers 447 00:34:09,937 --> 00:34:14,351 and granted the men a meeting with then Assistant DA Bill Gardner. 448 00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:19,624 Gardner went out to St John's to question students in the senior boys' dormitory. 449 00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:24,071 They met in our dorm, about six of the boys. 450 00:34:24,108 --> 00:34:27,475 The meeting only lasted about 15, 20 minutes, 451 00:34:27,522 --> 00:34:30,123 cos they all said, "No, no, nothing is going on." 452 00:34:30,177 --> 00:34:31,787 And it didn't take long, it was over. 453 00:34:32,441 --> 00:34:33,990 I was kind of surprised, 454 00:34:34,056 --> 00:34:36,303 cos two of the gentlemen in the dorm 455 00:34:36,418 --> 00:34:39,128 loved to argue and debate anything 456 00:34:39,215 --> 00:34:41,816 and they were quiet as a church mouse. 457 00:34:42,744 --> 00:34:45,641 With no active students willing to come forward 458 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:47,870 the brief investigation ended. 459 00:34:48,016 --> 00:34:51,219 McCann's office said it did not investigate past claims, 460 00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:54,351 because of the Statute of Limitations 461 00:34:55,092 --> 00:34:57,224 But Gary, Bob and Arthur believed 462 00:34:57,279 --> 00:34:59,513 that their charges were not taken seriously 463 00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:02,830 because McCann and Gardner were devout Catholics. 464 00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:07,580 Gardner in his commentary of St John's 465 00:35:07,830 --> 00:35:10,900 We are talking about the oath of a priest here. 466 00:35:11,267 --> 00:35:13,455 We're not gonna just go 467 00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:16,478 head on to ruining this man's life. 468 00:35:19,587 --> 00:35:22,876 The DA's office never brought charges against Murphy, 469 00:35:23,126 --> 00:35:26,406 but at the school, the matter was not forgotten. 470 00:35:27,095 --> 00:35:31,653 One of the gentlemen in the dorm had come by the door to my room, 471 00:35:31,732 --> 00:35:34,028 it was about 10.30, 11 at night. 472 00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:36,953 And he said, "We want to talk to you about Murphy." 473 00:35:36,990 --> 00:35:40,774 You know, that's when they opened up about some of the stuff. 474 00:35:43,761 --> 00:35:46,433 So I was thinking I need to try to, 475 00:35:46,496 --> 00:35:48,863 you know, help them get to the bottom of this. 476 00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,244 So I did call the Archbishop's office 477 00:35:53,076 --> 00:35:56,794 and I just said, "I have some stuff on the Father Murphy case 478 00:35:56,842 --> 00:35:59,341 "that I think the Archbishop needs to hear." 479 00:36:00,774 --> 00:36:03,986 He and I just met alone and I told him, 480 00:36:04,063 --> 00:36:07,306 "Father Murphy admitted to me that he is molesting boys," 481 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,267 I said, "I have dates and times" 482 00:36:10,383 --> 00:36:12,978 and I said, "I'm going to go to the parents." 483 00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:16,665 Almost immediately, it was announced 484 00:36:16,701 --> 00:36:20,509 that Father Murphy would leave St John's for health reasons. 485 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:24,699 The writer for the Milwaukee Sentinel who covered the story 486 00:36:24,778 --> 00:36:27,692 included the allegations against Murphy in her draft. 487 00:36:29,205 --> 00:36:33,043 But the newspaper's editor removed any mention of sexual abuse. 488 00:36:34,962 --> 00:36:38,531 Terry had just returned to St John's to teach history 489 00:36:38,633 --> 00:36:41,258 after graduating from Gallaudet University. 490 00:36:41,869 --> 00:36:44,039 With his new Super 8 camera, 491 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,521 he filmed Murphy's departure. 492 00:36:46,669 --> 00:36:48,920 I remember filming Murphy leaving 493 00:36:49,025 --> 00:36:51,615 and knowing that Murphy was a paedophile. 494 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,182 The children thought that Murphy was leaving because of health reasons, 495 00:36:55,214 --> 00:36:59,049 but I knew he was leaving because he had molested children. 496 00:37:17,892 --> 00:37:20,265 The children lined up to shake his hand. 497 00:37:21,514 --> 00:37:26,132 And through tears, Murphy said goodbye to each of them. 498 00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:51,372 Father Fitzgerald started out as a priest in Boston 499 00:37:51,495 --> 00:37:54,575 and priests come to him who have sexually offended, 500 00:37:54,635 --> 00:37:56,372 so he knows he needs to do something. 501 00:37:56,489 --> 00:37:59,755 He formed an order, the Order of the Paracletes 502 00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:03,591 in order to treat paedophile priests. 503 00:38:04,223 --> 00:38:07,433 The first Servants of the Paraclete treatment center 504 00:38:07,533 --> 00:38:11,590 was opened in Jemez Springs, New Mexico, in 1947. 505 00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:15,361 Father Fitzgerald did not believe in psychology or counselling. 506 00:38:15,412 --> 00:38:17,443 He favoured spiritual treatment, 507 00:38:17,555 --> 00:38:19,910 hoping that sex offenders and alcoholics 508 00:38:19,995 --> 00:38:23,591 would find salvation on their knees, praying for mercy. 509 00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:27,763 But on one point Father Fitzgerald was absolutely clear - 510 00:38:27,865 --> 00:38:30,343 sexual predators should be defrocked 511 00:38:30,411 --> 00:38:33,723 or hidden from the faithful behind monastery walls. 512 00:38:33,799 --> 00:38:38,942 He came to the conclusion that priests who sexually abuse children are like vipers - 513 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,382 you can never stop them. 514 00:38:41,468 --> 00:38:45,358 The only thing you can do is remove them from their target population 515 00:38:45,399 --> 00:38:48,358 and make them live a life of prayer and penance. 516 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,521 He wrote to the Pope, he constantly wrote to bishops 517 00:38:52,576 --> 00:38:54,818 and he said, "Look, this is a terrible problem. 518 00:38:54,878 --> 00:38:58,159 "Paedophilia is infesting lots of seminaries, 519 00:38:58,225 --> 00:39:00,279 "you've got to do something about it." 520 00:39:00,595 --> 00:39:03,837 So, he thought, "Let's get an island! 521 00:39:03,895 --> 00:39:06,314 "You can't stop them, but you can contain them. 522 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,704 "Let's get an island in the Caribbean." 523 00:39:10,863 --> 00:39:14,574 He sent a priest out, he was looking in Barbados, 524 00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:17,007 he was looking in various islands 525 00:39:17,046 --> 00:39:22,327 and they went ahead and they actually did begin the process to buy an island. 526 00:39:22,381 --> 00:39:25,991 It was the island of Carriacou, off the coast of Grenada, 527 00:39:26,029 --> 00:39:28,881 famous for its nutmeg and beautiful beaches. 528 00:39:29,525 --> 00:39:33,412 The Church put a $5,000 down payment on Carriacou, 529 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:39,068 but Church superiors overruled the idea of an island for paedophile priests. 530 00:39:39,256 --> 00:39:43,407 Then, the Church hierarchy decided to change the policy of the Paracletes. 531 00:39:43,493 --> 00:39:46,038 Instead of removing priests from victims, 532 00:39:46,093 --> 00:39:49,530 the centers attempted to rehabilitate and recirculate them. 533 00:39:49,812 --> 00:39:51,647 From the 50s to the 90s, 534 00:39:51,701 --> 00:39:54,366 the Servants of the Paraclete spent $80 million 535 00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:56,854 treating more than 2,000 priests 536 00:39:57,072 --> 00:39:59,789 in special centers in Italy, France, 537 00:39:59,844 --> 00:40:05,515 Great Britain, Africa, South America and the Philippines. 538 00:40:13,046 --> 00:40:16,520 Lawrence Murphy retreated to his cabin in Boulder Junction, 539 00:40:17,312 --> 00:40:19,778 a small town in northern Wisconsin. 540 00:40:21,554 --> 00:40:24,743 He was assigned to a local church, St Anne's. 541 00:40:24,972 --> 00:40:29,141 But the parish was not told anything about Murphy's past. 542 00:40:30,118 --> 00:40:33,102 Murphy continued to abuse local children. 543 00:40:36,859 --> 00:40:40,700 Back in Milwaukee, Gary Smith decided to tell his father 544 00:40:40,755 --> 00:40:44,122 about the abuse he suffered as a teenager. 545 00:40:44,867 --> 00:40:48,926 John Conway did the interpreting and explained it to my father 546 00:40:49,065 --> 00:40:51,663 and he was very upset. 547 00:40:51,734 --> 00:40:53,913 And that's when my dad lost his temper 548 00:40:53,983 --> 00:40:56,221 and decided to contact a lawyer. 549 00:40:56,296 --> 00:40:59,715 They decided to file a lawsuit against the Archdiocese, 550 00:40:59,768 --> 00:41:02,619 the school and Father Murphy. 551 00:41:03,031 --> 00:41:04,551 Nuns from the school 552 00:41:04,614 --> 00:41:07,731 and other supporters of Father Murphy within the deaf community 553 00:41:07,866 --> 00:41:10,113 began showing up at Gary's apartment, 554 00:41:10,203 --> 00:41:13,230 pressuring him to drop the lawsuit. 555 00:41:13,765 --> 00:41:16,984 Then, mysteriously, the matter was settled. 556 00:41:17,125 --> 00:41:21,195 Father Murphy agreed to pay $500 for Gary's legal fees 557 00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:26,360 and St John's offered Gary the sum of a few thousand dollars for counselling. 558 00:41:26,429 --> 00:41:30,507 The deal was struck after a nun called Sister Martha Ann visited Gary, 559 00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:32,890 who had no-one to translate for him, 560 00:41:33,148 --> 00:41:36,398 and persuaded Gary to sign an unusual document 561 00:41:36,437 --> 00:41:40,007 in which he dropped the case and apologized to the Church. 562 00:41:40,132 --> 00:41:42,899 He, of course, is deaf and marginality literate. 563 00:41:43,243 --> 00:41:48,461 Not all deaf people are illiterate, but English is not their language. 564 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:53,899 They coerced and tricked him into a settlement. 565 00:42:24,734 --> 00:42:26,702 Despite Gary's apology, 566 00:42:26,772 --> 00:42:30,717 the Church failed to pay the $5,000 for his therapy 567 00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:32,328 for 20 years. 568 00:42:39,538 --> 00:42:44,717 Father Doyle is an early whistleblower in the scandal. 569 00:42:44,821 --> 00:42:48,428 He's working for the Papal Nuncio in Washington, 570 00:42:48,456 --> 00:42:52,635 he's beginning to see some of the communication about these cases 571 00:42:52,661 --> 00:42:54,809 and is realizing that 572 00:42:55,033 --> 00:42:57,869 it could be a bigger problem than just... 573 00:42:57,928 --> 00:43:01,138 ...a couple bad apples, a bad priest here or there. 574 00:43:01,337 --> 00:43:05,951 He initially tries to work within Church channels 575 00:43:06,007 --> 00:43:09,380 and he thinks that there's going to be a response. 576 00:43:09,602 --> 00:43:14,874 When there isn't, he eventually becomes a public whistleblower. 577 00:43:15,704 --> 00:43:20,757 The attitude from the Vatican was, "We don't turn our priests in. 578 00:43:20,863 --> 00:43:22,723 "This is our problem, we take care of it, 579 00:43:22,768 --> 00:43:25,449 "you don't refer to the civil authorities 580 00:43:25,527 --> 00:43:27,347 "when they're committing felony crimes." 581 00:43:27,418 --> 00:43:30,534 Now, I don't know what they would have done if it would have been a slew of murders. 582 00:43:30,837 --> 00:43:35,716 He has remained in the Church while being both a critic of the Church 583 00:43:35,782 --> 00:43:40,161 and an expert witness in lawsuits against the Church. 584 00:43:40,727 --> 00:43:43,381 I first became aware of the Murphy case 585 00:43:43,434 --> 00:43:45,566 when it became publicly known 586 00:43:45,622 --> 00:43:48,700 and I was asked to evaluate some of the information. 587 00:43:49,623 --> 00:43:53,221 The Vatican knew that there'd been prior reports about Murphy, 588 00:43:53,493 --> 00:43:55,091 there was no conspiracy, 589 00:43:55,126 --> 00:43:57,748 but there was something far worse than a conspiracy. 590 00:43:57,915 --> 00:44:02,302 The very policy of keeping this absolutely secret, 591 00:44:02,588 --> 00:44:04,208 that was the policy. 592 00:44:04,338 --> 00:44:08,775 And the first regulations to keep these issues absolutely secret 593 00:44:08,818 --> 00:44:12,404 were issued in 1866 by the Vatican. 594 00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:15,194 Back in the 1980s, 595 00:44:15,257 --> 00:44:19,451 Father Doyle wrote that these cases were going to cost the Church 596 00:44:19,516 --> 00:44:22,085 eventually $1 billion. 597 00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:26,206 The last estimate is it's over $2 billion. 598 00:44:26,766 --> 00:44:27,924 So he was right. 599 00:44:28,706 --> 00:44:30,516 'Facing the crisis, 600 00:44:30,579 --> 00:44:34,954 'Catholics confront the sex abuse scandal on the very first day of holy ...' 601 00:44:35,124 --> 00:44:37,514 'NBC News In Depth tonight. Crisis in the Church...' 602 00:44:37,574 --> 00:44:41,378 'New details tonight about how the Boston Archdiocese handled the case 603 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,245 'of a priest charged now with repeatedly raping a young boy.' 604 00:44:45,297 --> 00:44:46,715 'Tonight, another priest...' 605 00:44:46,769 --> 00:44:49,969 'John Geoghan, accused by more than 130 of abuse...' 606 00:44:50,013 --> 00:44:53,146 'Newly released documents show Boston Church officials knew...' 607 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,762 'Cardinal Law knew of Shanley's alleged abusive behaviour, 608 00:44:56,847 --> 00:44:58,574 'but never informed legal authorities...' 609 00:44:58,645 --> 00:45:01,302 'Last month's life sentence given to Father John Hanlon 610 00:45:01,352 --> 00:45:02,375 'for raping a young boy 611 00:45:02,437 --> 00:45:04,430 'is the latest chapter in a scandal that is...' 612 00:45:04,504 --> 00:45:07,629 'Now, after the Church sex scandal first came to light in Boston, 613 00:45:07,676 --> 00:45:09,926 'thousands of victims across the country have gone public...' 614 00:45:10,004 --> 00:45:12,777 'This morning, the Pope has broken his silence 615 00:45:12,815 --> 00:45:16,486 'about the growing sexual abuse rocking the Catholic Church in the United States.' 616 00:45:16,525 --> 00:45:18,979 'Even President Bush weighed in yesterday 617 00:45:19,042 --> 00:45:23,823 saying he's confident 'the Church will clean up its business and do the right thing.' 618 00:45:23,923 --> 00:45:29,946 DEMONSTRATORS: 'Law must go! Law must go!' 619 00:45:30,128 --> 00:45:34,189 Identified as a key figure who covered up sex abuse in Boston, 620 00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:38,129 Cardinal Law cost the Church tens of millions of dollars in settlements. 621 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:41,395 But instead of being punished by the Vatican, 622 00:45:41,653 --> 00:45:44,669 Law was rewarded with a seven-year term 623 00:45:44,751 --> 00:45:47,286 at this magnificent basilica in Rome. 624 00:45:47,708 --> 00:45:50,763 He had the second most prominent church in catholicism 625 00:45:50,833 --> 00:45:52,137 and a palace to live in. 626 00:45:52,181 --> 00:45:56,946 And he's got a stake a in luxurious state of affairs for the rest of his life. 627 00:45:56,989 --> 00:46:00,427 It sends a pretty blatant message that victims aren't that important, 628 00:46:00,524 --> 00:46:03,301 but you've persecuted this poor cardinal. 629 00:46:03,401 --> 00:46:05,831 You know, he's suffered enough, now we've got to give him 630 00:46:05,917 --> 00:46:08,120 a nice cushy job to protect him. 631 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,026 One of the things that Vatican officials had tried to do 632 00:46:12,075 --> 00:46:14,492 is portray this as an American thing 633 00:46:14,547 --> 00:46:16,586 or, at best, an Anglo-Saxon thing. 634 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,531 Oh, the sex abuse scandals, 635 00:46:18,566 --> 00:46:22,094 they happen only in the United States, in Canada... 636 00:46:22,148 --> 00:46:24,937 And, suddenly, in the year 2010, 637 00:46:24,985 --> 00:46:29,180 this great scandal explodes in Europe. 638 00:46:29,344 --> 00:46:31,008 It explodes in Ireland, 639 00:46:31,194 --> 00:46:32,180 in Germany, 640 00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:34,094 in Austria, in Switzerland, 641 00:46:34,203 --> 00:46:36,211 in France, in Belgium. 642 00:46:37,125 --> 00:46:41,550 Everybody points to this to be from the date 2002, 643 00:46:41,604 --> 00:46:45,074 when the Boston Globe said, "Hey, we have a problem here." 644 00:46:45,113 --> 00:46:48,831 And they subsequently published 1,200 articles. 645 00:46:48,947 --> 00:46:51,986 This is an old, old problem 646 00:46:52,043 --> 00:46:55,447 and if you follow this problem to its foundation, 647 00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:59,509 it will lead you to the highest corridors of the Vatican. 648 00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:05,511 Benedicti Decimi Sexti. 649 00:47:05,762 --> 00:47:08,262 Cardinale Ratzinger. 650 00:47:08,289 --> 00:47:11,832 [CHEERING AND APPLAUSE] 651 00:47:16,707 --> 00:47:20,878 In 2005, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope, 652 00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:25,479 and chose the name Benedict XVI. 653 00:47:26,131 --> 00:47:29,718 He was known as a great theologian and intellectual. 654 00:47:30,277 --> 00:47:32,200 What many did not realise 655 00:47:32,271 --> 00:47:36,294 was that for 25 years, he'd led the Vatican Office familiar 656 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,325 with the most severe cases of sex abuse by priests, 657 00:47:40,498 --> 00:47:43,325 the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 658 00:47:44,331 --> 00:47:46,629 The CDF has a dark history. 659 00:47:46,749 --> 00:47:49,558 When it was founded in the 16th century, 660 00:47:49,625 --> 00:47:52,332 it was known as the Inquisition. 661 00:47:53,241 --> 00:47:54,991 Ratzinger took that job over, 662 00:47:55,037 --> 00:47:56,683 he was Archbishop of Munich and Freising, 663 00:47:56,745 --> 00:47:59,034 and he was promoted by John Paul II 664 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,102 to run the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 665 00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:07,886 Think of the Pope in the middle and a whole bunch of offices around him. 666 00:48:08,118 --> 00:48:12,108 What you had was multiple offices of the Holy See, 667 00:48:12,182 --> 00:48:16,655 who ultimately don't talk to one another, handling these different cases. 668 00:48:16,967 --> 00:48:20,846 And so, cases wouldn't get bogged down. 669 00:48:22,681 --> 00:48:25,228 But then what happened in 2001, 670 00:48:25,514 --> 00:48:30,057 Ratzinger put out this teaching approved by John Paul II that said, 671 00:48:30,148 --> 00:48:37,249 "Every sex abuse case that involves a minor, they all come to my desk." 672 00:48:38,884 --> 00:48:40,803 From 2001 forward, 673 00:48:40,852 --> 00:48:45,492 every single priest sex abuse case went to Ratzinger. 674 00:48:46,383 --> 00:48:50,500 Cardinal Ratzinger, now His Holiness Benedict XVI, 675 00:48:50,561 --> 00:48:53,829 is the most knowledgeable person in the world 676 00:48:53,892 --> 00:48:56,696 regarding priestly sexual abuse of minors, 677 00:48:57,313 --> 00:48:59,548 'cos he has all the data. 678 00:49:02,478 --> 00:49:05,194 Inside the cloistered walls of the Vatican 679 00:49:05,259 --> 00:49:09,389 lie voluminous records of worldwide sexual abuse in the priesthood, 680 00:49:10,017 --> 00:49:12,271 centralized in the secret archives 681 00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:15,325 of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 682 00:49:15,686 --> 00:49:20,638 It is the century-old history of the Catholic Church. 683 00:49:20,856 --> 00:49:24,270 We have documents from councils 684 00:49:24,353 --> 00:49:28,679 in Spain in the 4th century after Christ, 685 00:49:28,792 --> 00:49:35,749 in which there is written something about sex abuse with children. 686 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:42,103 So it is 1,700 years that the church is dealing about this. 687 00:49:45,446 --> 00:49:48,387 This is the guilt of the Vatican. 688 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,222 They could already understand 689 00:49:51,309 --> 00:49:54,088 how deep this scandal was 690 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:58,791 and that this scandal was not just an American scandal, 691 00:49:58,955 --> 00:50:02,767 and that a paedophile is not a sinner, 692 00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:04,322 but he's a criminal. 693 00:50:04,416 --> 00:50:07,388 He is a criminal who plans his activity, 694 00:50:07,938 --> 00:50:13,093 who is very attentive to organize situations 695 00:50:13,132 --> 00:50:15,710 in which he can abuse children. 696 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,706 ♪ Well, it's one for the money ♪ ♪ And it's two for the show ♪ 697 00:50:18,782 --> 00:50:21,009 ♪ Three to get ready ♪ ♪ Now, go, cat, go ♪ 698 00:50:21,051 --> 00:50:24,199 ♪ But don't you ♪ ♪ Stand on my blue suede shoes ♪ 699 00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:25,766 ♪ Uh-huh ♪ 700 00:50:25,863 --> 00:50:30,300 ♪ You can do anything ♪ ♪ But lay off of my blue suede shoes. ♪ 701 00:50:30,412 --> 00:50:33,303 For most people, Tony Walsh was the priest from Ballyfermot 702 00:50:33,402 --> 00:50:35,568 who did an Elvis impersonation, 703 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,310 He was part of the Singing Priests group. 704 00:50:37,389 --> 00:50:40,263 And he was very good, he was a really, really popular priest. 705 00:50:40,316 --> 00:50:42,082 What most people didn't know 706 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:46,699 was that Tony Walsh was Ireland's most notorious paedophile. 707 00:50:49,048 --> 00:50:53,093 In 2010, a government investigation revealed that Walsh, 708 00:50:53,179 --> 00:50:57,069 by his own count, had committed over 200 acts of abuse. 709 00:50:57,132 --> 00:50:59,960 That investigation, known as the Murphy Report, 710 00:51:00,012 --> 00:51:03,066 also uncovered the fact that the archdiocese of Dublin 711 00:51:03,184 --> 00:51:05,389 had known about Walsh's activity 712 00:51:05,454 --> 00:51:10,602 for nearly 20 years, yet did nothing to inform parents or police. 713 00:51:10,729 --> 00:51:13,791 His first appointment in 1979 was to Valey Farmers. 714 00:51:13,955 --> 00:51:15,220 the suburb of Dublin. 715 00:51:15,252 --> 00:51:17,158 He's put in the charge of the older boys, 716 00:51:17,221 --> 00:51:21,103 even though, in 1979 already there was a complaint made against him 717 00:51:21,229 --> 00:51:23,650 a couple of days after his ordination. 718 00:51:26,413 --> 00:51:29,643 In Ireland, Catholicism is kind of like a blood type. 719 00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:32,263 It's the status quo, it's what's always been done, 720 00:51:32,313 --> 00:51:35,305 you don't question it, you blindly go along with it. 721 00:51:36,013 --> 00:51:39,990 You know, the Catholic Church was part of who we are and what we are. 722 00:51:41,822 --> 00:51:44,727 The priest, he is the carrier of the sacrament. 723 00:51:44,835 --> 00:51:48,109 You know, it's almost like he's the...he's got the Holy Grail. 724 00:51:48,382 --> 00:51:50,625 I remember interviewing a woman once and she said, 725 00:51:50,685 --> 00:51:52,990 "We used to get down on our knees when he passed by" 726 00:51:53,093 --> 00:51:55,349 "and bless ourselves. He carried the host, you know. 727 00:51:55,443 --> 00:52:00,318 That's how people saw them," and that's because they were almost Godlike. 728 00:52:02,571 --> 00:52:05,835 The government investigation into the Singing Priest 729 00:52:05,907 --> 00:52:09,055 uncovered church documents that revealed a new dimension 730 00:52:09,124 --> 00:52:11,063 to the worldwide sex abuse scandal. 731 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,878 It was the role played by bishops and the Vatican in allowing the abuse to continue. 732 00:52:18,876 --> 00:52:23,886 Year after year, parents reported Walsh's abuse to the Dublin archdiocese, 733 00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:26,558 but the church did not punish the priest, 734 00:52:26,617 --> 00:52:30,009 reach out to the victims or alert local parents. 735 00:52:31,009 --> 00:52:33,999 As revelations continued in the Walsh case, 736 00:52:34,061 --> 00:52:36,771 parents and survivors scanned the Murphy Report 737 00:52:36,859 --> 00:52:40,351 to learn the extent of the crimes and the cover-up. 738 00:52:40,563 --> 00:52:43,630 Documents showed that the church kept allowing Walsh 739 00:52:43,695 --> 00:52:47,296 to care for children, even after a secret stint 740 00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:50,741 in a clinic run by the Servants of the Paraclete. 741 00:52:51,532 --> 00:52:53,303 VOICE DISTORTED: The clinic allowed Father Walsh 742 00:52:53,374 --> 00:52:54,639 to roam the streets 743 00:52:54,732 --> 00:52:57,670 of the nearby large city, after admitting 744 00:52:57,706 --> 00:53:01,073 to abusing 100 kids, unsupervised. 745 00:53:01,144 --> 00:53:04,674 He was allowed to dress in clerical attire and said Masses 746 00:53:04,792 --> 00:53:06,386 in the local churches. 747 00:53:06,463 --> 00:53:11,541 Father Walsh visited a house and paid a lot of attention to the 11-year-old son. 748 00:53:11,594 --> 00:53:16,164 He agreed to babysit for the children and God knows what happened to the kids that week. 749 00:53:16,248 --> 00:53:17,039 Yeah. 750 00:53:17,103 --> 00:53:21,072 I mean, that's a clinic allowing him to do something like that. 751 00:53:21,128 --> 00:53:24,724 That is ridiculous. And they're not being held accountable. 752 00:53:24,784 --> 00:53:25,760 It's... 753 00:53:25,794 --> 00:53:29,120 Father Walsh was immediately removed from the clinic. 754 00:53:29,238 --> 00:53:32,831 I think it's about time when a paedophile gets thrown out of a clinic. 755 00:53:33,348 --> 00:53:36,586 Through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen. 756 00:53:36,605 --> 00:53:38,784 And we ask these and all our prayers, 757 00:53:38,864 --> 00:53:41,862 through Jesus Christ, Our Lord, Amen. 758 00:53:42,329 --> 00:53:44,761 Even after a decade of abuse, 759 00:53:44,799 --> 00:53:49,292 the faithful heard nothing about Walsh from the Archbishop of Dublin. 760 00:53:49,875 --> 00:53:51,500 Why didn't you go yourself, Bishop? 761 00:53:51,602 --> 00:53:54,459 - Go where? - Go to the victims yourself. 762 00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:57,117 Erm... And encourage them to go to the police. 763 00:53:57,985 --> 00:54:01,250 I suppose perhaps I should've, perhaps I should have done 764 00:54:01,291 --> 00:54:06,492 but, erm, I've so much to do. 765 00:54:08,306 --> 00:54:12,594 In secret, Archbishop Connell did launch an investigation, 766 00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:16,961 but according to the laws of Roman Catholicism, known as Canon law, 767 00:54:17,157 --> 00:54:22,241 Connell followed orders from the Vatican to keep any details of Walsh's crimes 768 00:54:22,311 --> 00:54:24,826 hidden behind the walls of the church. 769 00:54:25,086 --> 00:54:27,438 Everybody involved in that process, 770 00:54:27,491 --> 00:54:30,649 the accuser, the accused and the witnesses, 771 00:54:30,688 --> 00:54:34,461 are all obliged to take an oath of absolute secrecy, 772 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,352 that they will never reveal for the rest of their life 773 00:54:37,409 --> 00:54:41,852 any of the information that they learned in the process. 774 00:54:45,137 --> 00:54:48,379 Victims were sworn to absolute secrecy. 775 00:54:48,441 --> 00:54:50,792 And the sanction for breaking that secrecy 776 00:54:50,839 --> 00:54:55,401 was automatic excommunication, the ultimate sanction the Church can enforce. 777 00:54:57,621 --> 00:54:59,308 When you read the Murphy Report 778 00:54:59,410 --> 00:55:03,589 you begin to see the same patterns emerging all over the place. 779 00:55:03,682 --> 00:55:06,267 Patterns in Boston and in Milwaukee 780 00:55:06,426 --> 00:55:08,402 that were similar to Dublin. 781 00:55:08,488 --> 00:55:10,878 Priests were moved from "A" to "B" to "C" to "D"... 782 00:55:10,963 --> 00:55:14,369 Nobody told anybody, the civil authorities were not informed. 783 00:55:15,087 --> 00:55:18,783 The Murphy Commission got access to documents, they got cooperation 784 00:55:18,838 --> 00:55:20,509 from Archbishop Devlin Martin, 785 00:55:20,605 --> 00:55:24,596 and were able to reveal, how the Vatican was part 786 00:55:24,651 --> 00:55:26,502 of what went on in Dublin 787 00:55:26,752 --> 00:55:30,119 In fact, how the Vatican oversaw it. 788 00:55:30,813 --> 00:55:33,033 Following the dictates of the Vatican, 789 00:55:33,094 --> 00:55:36,627 13 years after the first sign of Walsh's abuse, 790 00:55:36,705 --> 00:55:40,955 Archbishop Connell finally convened a secret church trial. 791 00:55:41,204 --> 00:55:45,385 They appoint three judges, Canon lawyers, to listen to evidence, 792 00:55:45,759 --> 00:55:48,713 which is overwhelmingly evidence against this guy, 793 00:55:48,769 --> 00:55:52,683 and they recommend in 1992 that he should be dismissed from the priesthood. 794 00:55:53,389 --> 00:55:55,590 And he's always pleaded not guilty. 795 00:55:55,675 --> 00:55:57,618 Even though he's admitted to 100 cases of abuse, 796 00:55:57,697 --> 00:55:59,501 he's pleaded not guilty. 797 00:55:59,547 --> 00:56:01,703 He appeals that to Rome. 798 00:56:02,023 --> 00:56:03,687 For eight months, the Vatican dithers 799 00:56:03,752 --> 00:56:05,080 and decides what to do with him, 800 00:56:05,141 --> 00:56:07,853 and in that eight months he abuses another child. 801 00:56:08,166 --> 00:56:11,142 Abuses a child at his grandfather's funeral. 802 00:56:11,372 --> 00:56:14,254 The Vatican is fundamentally responsible 803 00:56:14,387 --> 00:56:16,301 for this guy being abused. 804 00:56:17,337 --> 00:56:19,536 The Vatican come back and decide, 805 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,560 "Well, we won't dismiss him from the priesthood, 806 00:56:21,607 --> 00:56:23,904 "Put him in a monastery for 10 years." 807 00:56:24,149 --> 00:56:25,789 The bishop is tearing his hair out. 808 00:56:25,872 --> 00:56:27,325 "What do you mean, put him in a monastery for 10 years?" 809 00:56:27,365 --> 00:56:29,066 "No monastery will take him!" 810 00:56:29,121 --> 00:56:32,195 And so, Des Connell pleads with the Vatican, 811 00:56:32,258 --> 00:56:34,654 and he personally went to see Cardinal Ratzinger 812 00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:37,115 to write his dismissal order. 813 00:56:38,415 --> 00:56:40,621 The Vatican did nothing. 814 00:56:40,817 --> 00:56:44,222 But angry parents forced the police to act. 815 00:56:44,649 --> 00:56:48,691 Walsh was convicted of sexual assault in 1995. 816 00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:53,793 Only then, after tolerating Walsh's abuse of hundreds of children, 817 00:56:54,243 --> 00:56:56,875 did the Vatican finally dismiss Father Walsh 818 00:56:57,345 --> 00:56:59,352 from the priestly state. 819 00:57:00,558 --> 00:57:03,959 Two priests who were judges on the Tony Walsh case 820 00:57:04,022 --> 00:57:06,248 swore an oath of secrecy. 821 00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:09,608 Where are they now? They're two bishops. 822 00:57:24,065 --> 00:57:27,953 For priests, secrecy can have its rewards. 823 00:57:28,378 --> 00:57:33,581 But for the faithful in Ireland, the cover-up may be an unforgivable sin. 824 00:57:35,669 --> 00:57:39,276 We were 95% practicing Catholics. 825 00:57:39,393 --> 00:57:41,682 I spoke to a priest only yesterday, he says, 826 00:57:41,744 --> 00:57:44,237 "4% come to church in Dublin." 827 00:57:45,157 --> 00:57:47,799 But that's not to say that they've lost their faith. 828 00:57:48,076 --> 00:57:50,916 They certainly lost faith in the hierarchy. 829 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,725 In 2010, Pope Benedict sought to bring the flock back to the church 830 00:57:59,786 --> 00:58:03,829 by writing an unprecedented letter to the Irish faithful. 831 00:58:05,571 --> 00:58:07,245 To us bishops he says, 832 00:58:07,322 --> 00:58:11,565 "We must admit that grave errors of judgment were made, 833 00:58:11,713 --> 00:58:15,173 "and failures of leadership occurred 834 00:58:15,227 --> 00:58:20,533 "which have seriously undermined our credibility and effectiveness." 835 00:58:20,620 --> 00:58:22,940 What he does is, he blames the Irish bishops 836 00:58:23,011 --> 00:58:24,698 for their misplaced concern 837 00:58:24,744 --> 00:58:27,119 for the reputation of the church in the avoidance of scandal, 838 00:58:27,178 --> 00:58:28,947 for not following Canon law. 839 00:58:29,079 --> 00:58:32,595 He never once acknowledged the role of the Vatican in all of this. 840 00:58:32,691 --> 00:58:35,222 I spoke to one bishop who was so angry. 841 00:58:35,388 --> 00:58:38,224 He said, "How dare he blame us? 842 00:58:38,312 --> 00:58:40,999 "Show me where we didn't follow Canon law! 843 00:58:41,389 --> 00:58:43,429 "Canon law was the problem!" 844 00:58:43,712 --> 00:58:49,437 That prompted a few people to come out of the woodwork, if you like. 845 00:58:50,893 --> 00:58:55,408 An anonymous source leaked a mysterious document. 846 00:58:55,665 --> 00:58:57,557 It was a smoking gun. 847 00:58:57,621 --> 00:59:00,448 A 1997 letter from the Vatican 848 00:59:00,582 --> 00:59:03,127 that overruled attempts by Irish bishops 849 00:59:03,225 --> 00:59:06,268 to report sex abuse to the police. 850 00:59:08,299 --> 00:59:11,151 Why didn't any of them just stand up publicly and come out and say, 851 00:59:11,175 --> 00:59:14,182 "The Vatican has instructed us not to report crimes to the police"? 852 00:59:14,304 --> 00:59:18,346 Because they are totally loyal to the Vatican. 853 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:22,909 In 2011, the release of yet another government investigation 854 00:59:23,018 --> 00:59:25,471 was the final blow which shattered relations 855 00:59:25,534 --> 00:59:27,916 between the Vatican and Ireland. 856 00:59:28,007 --> 00:59:32,249 The Cloyne report excavates the dysfunction, 857 00:59:32,388 --> 00:59:35,114 the disconnection, the elitism 858 00:59:35,241 --> 00:59:38,574 that dominates the culture of the Vatican today. 859 00:59:38,606 --> 00:59:41,036 The rape and the torture of children 860 00:59:41,093 --> 00:59:45,460 were downplayed or managed to uphold instead 861 00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:47,632 the primacy of the institution 862 00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:51,676 its power, its standing and its reputation. 863 00:59:52,815 --> 00:59:55,042 This calculated, withering position 864 00:59:55,176 --> 00:59:58,101 being the polar opposite of the radicalism, 865 00:59:58,176 --> 01:00:04,057 the humility and the compassion upon which the Roman Church was founded. 866 01:00:13,626 --> 01:00:17,432 [BELLS CHIME] 867 01:00:25,962 --> 01:00:28,056 Even as Irish churches lay empty, 868 01:00:28,369 --> 01:00:32,384 Rome received tens of thousands of pilgrims from all over the world 869 01:00:32,485 --> 01:00:36,267 who had come to see the beatification of Pope John Paul II. 870 01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:41,313 [PRAYER IN LATIN] 871 01:00:43,821 --> 01:00:46,622 The penultimate step in the path to sainthood 872 01:00:46,661 --> 01:00:51,231 beatification is the celebration of the blessed souls arrival in heaven 873 01:00:51,364 --> 01:00:55,037 proven by a miracle performed in the John Paul's name. 874 01:00:56,946 --> 01:01:00,983 To the faithful, John Paul was one of the world's most popular popes 875 01:01:01,224 --> 01:01:04,536 famous for helping to end the Communist rule in his native Poland 876 01:01:04,653 --> 01:01:06,043 and throughout Europe. 877 01:01:06,169 --> 01:01:08,606 He denounced the excesses of Capitalism 878 01:01:08,712 --> 01:01:11,325 and apologized for the Church's past sins 879 01:01:11,442 --> 01:01:13,668 in dealing with other Religions. 880 01:01:13,855 --> 01:01:19,559 [PRAYER IN LATIN] 881 01:01:29,447 --> 01:01:32,315 As the prayers continued late into the night, 882 01:01:32,601 --> 01:01:35,197 victims of sex abuse couldn't help wondering 883 01:01:35,549 --> 01:01:37,760 why Benedict was in such a rush 884 01:01:37,841 --> 01:01:41,377 to move John Paul's soul on the path to sainthood. 885 01:01:55,198 --> 01:01:57,581 Marcial Maciel Degollado 886 01:01:57,605 --> 01:02:02,230 was one of the world's most charismatic fundraisers for the Catholic Church. 887 01:02:02,381 --> 01:02:05,948 In 1941, he founded the Legion Of Christ, 888 01:02:06,021 --> 01:02:07,544 a group of young zealots 889 01:02:07,630 --> 01:02:09,809 who raised phenomenal amounts of money 890 01:02:09,864 --> 01:02:13,575 and opened universities and seminaries all over the world. 891 01:02:13,684 --> 01:02:18,418 Maciel controlled an annual operating budget of $650 million, 892 01:02:18,489 --> 01:02:22,738 and counted amongst his friends the world's richest man, Carlos Slim, 893 01:02:22,884 --> 01:02:26,871 Jeb Bush, Sandy Weill, former chairman of Citigroup, 894 01:02:26,999 --> 01:02:31,305 Rick Santorum, and former CIA director William Casey. 895 01:02:31,744 --> 01:02:36,501 Maciel was also a particular favourite of Pope John Paul II 896 01:02:36,616 --> 01:02:40,181 who exalted him as a holy man and visionary. 897 01:02:40,310 --> 01:02:44,031 Maciel was as connected as you could get in Rome 898 01:02:44,099 --> 01:02:46,525 and he got that way by giving money to people. 899 01:02:46,745 --> 01:02:50,291 $90,000 to Cardinal Martinez Somalo 900 01:02:50,354 --> 01:02:53,551 who, at the time, was the Head of the Congregation 901 01:02:53,620 --> 01:02:57,057 that should have investigated Maciel 902 01:02:57,515 --> 01:03:00,406 He was held in great favour by John Paul II. 903 01:03:00,656 --> 01:03:01,624 For a number of reasons. 904 01:03:01,687 --> 01:03:03,851 The money was certainly one of them. And second, ... 905 01:03:03,901 --> 01:03:09,592 he was bowing and scraping and worshiping the Pope and the Pope apparently liked it. 906 01:03:17,195 --> 01:03:19,187 But, as the song goes, 907 01:03:19,461 --> 01:03:21,359 though Maciel looked like an angel 908 01:03:21,483 --> 01:03:25,835 and talked like an angel, he was a devil in disguise. 909 01:03:32,773 --> 01:03:36,405 Behind closed doors, Maciel led a secret life. 910 01:03:36,524 --> 01:03:39,687 He was a morphine addict and a ruthless sex criminal 911 01:03:39,818 --> 01:03:42,138 who abused dozens of his legionaries. 912 01:03:42,223 --> 01:03:45,035 He would visit the monasteries every few days 913 01:03:45,085 --> 01:03:46,953 and insist on being masturbated 914 01:03:46,993 --> 01:03:49,560 or on having sex with one of the boys. 915 01:03:49,692 --> 01:03:52,551 Often posing as an agent of the CIA, 916 01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:56,475 he had at least two secret mistresses and four children. 917 01:03:56,810 --> 01:03:58,987 He abused some of them too. 918 01:03:59,092 --> 01:04:02,917 Yet even when stories in the press started to emerge about Maciel, 919 01:04:03,084 --> 01:04:05,255 John Paul did not investigate him, 920 01:04:05,623 --> 01:04:07,177 he celebrated him. 921 01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:12,488 In 1997, when Renner and I did the investigative piece 922 01:04:12,504 --> 01:04:13,573 for the Hartford Courant, 923 01:04:13,689 --> 01:04:18,373 the response we got from the Vatican... was nothing. 924 01:04:18,501 --> 01:04:22,103 To say that John Paul was not given the information 925 01:04:22,178 --> 01:04:23,735 is preposterous. He is the Pope. 926 01:04:23,787 --> 01:04:26,083 People around him have this kind of information. 927 01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:31,474 One key cardinal, Angelo Sodano, stayed close to Maciel 928 01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:35,492 even as Maciel funneled millions of dollars into the Vatican. 929 01:04:36,055 --> 01:04:40,609 Sodano would be Maciel's protector right to the end. 930 01:04:40,703 --> 01:04:44,953 The Maciel case is really a school case 931 01:04:45,183 --> 01:04:50,511 in order to understand how the machine works within the Vatican. 932 01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:55,159 Marco Politi is one of Italy's most knowledgeable Vatican-watchers. 933 01:04:55,761 --> 01:05:00,418 He has also spent a considerable amount of time with Joseph Ratzinger. 934 01:05:00,948 --> 01:05:06,128 From the outside, Ratzinger is often perceived as a stiff personality, 935 01:05:06,279 --> 01:05:11,425 cold, merciless with the dissenters in the Church. 936 01:05:11,591 --> 01:05:14,661 If you see him from the inside, in the inner circle, 937 01:05:14,824 --> 01:05:18,926 it's a very warm personality, sensitive. 938 01:05:19,092 --> 01:05:21,717 So he has always been very shocked 939 01:05:21,848 --> 01:05:26,420 when he has heard about sex abuse scandals. 940 01:05:26,593 --> 01:05:29,490 For him it is a horrible sin. 941 01:05:48,759 --> 01:05:51,636 His first reaction is the horror 942 01:05:51,684 --> 01:05:53,800 that a priest could do something like this. 943 01:05:53,869 --> 01:05:54,925 That's telling. 944 01:05:55,006 --> 01:05:58,483 It wasn't, "These poor victims!" That was not his first reaction. 945 01:05:58,537 --> 01:05:59,814 His first reaction was, 946 01:05:59,915 --> 01:06:03,919 "It's despoiled the priesthood! The sacred institution!" 947 01:06:04,052 --> 01:06:06,090 Yet, when he was a cardinal, 948 01:06:06,161 --> 01:06:10,669 it had been his job to examine every one of these sex abuse cases. 949 01:06:10,847 --> 01:06:14,128 Ratzinger met with John Paul every Friday 950 01:06:14,525 --> 01:06:19,361 Did he stay silent or did he speak with John Paul about Maciel. 951 01:06:19,983 --> 01:06:24,120 Ratzinger would have liked to open an investigation 952 01:06:24,666 --> 01:06:30,534 but he was stopped by the Secretary Of State, Cardinal Sodano. 953 01:06:30,739 --> 01:06:35,504 Sodano's ability to protect Maciel put Ratzinger in a difficult position 954 01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:39,051 as more and more victims of Maciel came forward. 955 01:06:39,244 --> 01:06:42,884 Vatican Watch is new, it was Ratzinger's job to investigate. 956 01:06:43,077 --> 01:06:46,592 I want to ask you a question about Father Maciel 957 01:06:46,961 --> 01:06:48,348 - No, I... - Excuse me... 958 01:06:48,512 --> 01:06:50,308 But I'm not so informed 959 01:06:50,395 --> 01:06:52,300 to speak about it this moment 960 01:06:52,364 --> 01:06:56,363 It is even, I think, inconvenient in this moment to come to me 961 01:06:56,423 --> 01:06:59,994 There's a question whether you cover up... 962 01:07:00,176 --> 01:07:03,222 Come to me when just a moment is given, but not not yet. 963 01:07:03,293 --> 01:07:08,035 - Well, we found out... - This is unfair... - Signori...! 964 01:07:08,503 --> 01:07:12,944 What you find in Ratzinger at that point is a man who is troubled 965 01:07:13,061 --> 01:07:16,389 by justice that had not gone forward 966 01:07:16,479 --> 01:07:21,014 and yet at the same time was trying to balance his loyalty 967 01:07:21,064 --> 01:07:23,900 to the Pope, who clearly did not want Maciel prosecuted. 968 01:07:24,181 --> 01:07:29,111 [MASS IN ITALIAN] 969 01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:40,010 Cardinal Ratzinger waits till the moment when John Paul II is dying. 970 01:07:40,385 --> 01:07:44,737 The same day that John Paul II dies, 971 01:07:44,898 --> 01:07:49,471 the Prosecutor General of the Congregation Of Faith 972 01:07:49,546 --> 01:07:55,717 flies to New York and he stays in New York and in Mexico City for eight days, 973 01:07:55,906 --> 01:08:03,049 and he gets all the material to show that Maciel Marcial was a sex criminal. 974 01:08:03,211 --> 01:08:07,322 So it is interesting, for at least 15 years 975 01:08:07,385 --> 01:08:11,885 the Vatican didn't move a finger to investigate, 976 01:08:11,947 --> 01:08:17,299 and only in the moment when all the Vatican is stopped, 977 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,087 because everybody is thinking the Pope is dead, 978 01:08:20,181 --> 01:08:23,876 Cardinal Ratzinger succeeds to get the evidence. 979 01:08:24,337 --> 01:08:29,428 Cardinal Ratzinger's investigation confirmed his suspicion of Maciel's crimes 980 01:08:29,521 --> 01:08:31,811 but still he did not act. 981 01:08:31,946 --> 01:08:36,402 When Benedict became Pope in 2005, 982 01:08:36,496 --> 01:08:39,136 did Benedict order his trial? 983 01:08:39,184 --> 01:08:42,746 Did Benedict punish him in any way? No. 984 01:08:43,383 --> 01:08:47,840 Following a Vatican to live a life of prayer and penitence 985 01:08:47,972 --> 01:08:51,824 Maciel settled in Jacksonville, Florida. 986 01:08:52,711 --> 01:08:55,792 The Vatican communiqué did not mention his victims, 987 01:08:55,847 --> 01:08:57,776 or the nature of his crimes. 988 01:08:58,812 --> 01:09:02,886 An earlier statement had put an end to Maciel church trial. 989 01:09:02,988 --> 01:09:05,839 And that came not from Ratzinger's office, 990 01:09:05,941 --> 01:09:09,987 but rather from the office of Cardinal Sodano. 991 01:09:10,469 --> 01:09:15,731 Not even a Pope is all-powerful because he lives in a structure - 992 01:09:15,778 --> 01:09:20,817 the Roman Curia which is almost 2,000 years old - 993 01:09:20,897 --> 01:09:26,793 and the structure always wants to defend itself. 994 01:09:27,307 --> 01:09:32,862 He searched the truth about Maciel but he didn't get the courage 995 01:09:32,918 --> 01:09:38,698 to condemn him immediately, publicly and to defrock him. 996 01:09:49,868 --> 01:09:54,947 In 1997, facing a disease that would ultimately take his life, 997 01:09:55,127 --> 01:10:00,103 Bob Bolger made this video to memorialize Father Murphy's crimes. 998 01:10:24,141 --> 01:10:27,713 He set out on a road trip with his friends from St John's, 999 01:10:27,784 --> 01:10:32,655 Arthur and Gary, to see if they could finally hold Murphy to account. 1000 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,694 Murphy was living at the cabin in Boulder Junction 1001 01:10:37,820 --> 01:10:42,436 with a deaf housekeeper who'd studied and worked at St John's. 1002 01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:51,860 Bob gave me the camera and I videotaped it. 1003 01:10:54,178 --> 01:10:57,193 Bob's ringing the door bell, and then he comes away from the door 1004 01:10:57,256 --> 01:11:00,834 walks around to the side of the house, to the right, by the lake 1005 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,358 And then Murphy came out. And they met. 1006 01:11:11,891 --> 01:11:14,802 And Bob got in his face and really let him have it. 1007 01:11:14,992 --> 01:11:17,770 He told him, "You need to walk yourself right now 1008 01:11:17,816 --> 01:11:18,958 "to the police station." 1009 01:11:19,028 --> 01:11:20,864 "Walk yourself to jail." 1010 01:11:48,283 --> 01:11:54,714 Don't bother me. Don't bother me. Go on. 1011 01:12:02,597 --> 01:12:06,873 Then Grace got involved and was saying, "Forget it, forgive him!" 1012 01:12:26,893 --> 01:12:30,189 And Bolger is like, "You don't understand, Grace, stay out of it." 1013 01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:33,290 After that, we got in the car and we left. 1014 01:12:46,869 --> 01:12:49,435 When I told my wife what I had experienced with Murphy, 1015 01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:51,029 her heart broke for me. 1016 01:12:54,151 --> 01:12:56,412 When I finally told her I thought, 1017 01:12:56,565 --> 01:12:59,604 "Shit, I should never have told my wife!" 1018 01:13:01,701 --> 01:13:03,410 I thought I had made a mistake. 1019 01:13:03,450 --> 01:13:06,004 I shouldn't have said anything, I should've kept it to myself. 1020 01:13:06,103 --> 01:13:07,520 But it was too late. 1021 01:13:09,271 --> 01:13:11,161 We grappled with it 1022 01:13:11,372 --> 01:13:14,028 and my wife ultimately took me to a psychologist. 1023 01:13:16,272 --> 01:13:20,991 So when I finally blew, just let it all out, 1024 01:13:21,595 --> 01:13:24,622 I decided to write what turned out to be a seven-page letter to Murphy. 1025 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,197 I had to unleash every angry emotion that I had ever felt 1026 01:13:28,254 --> 01:13:32,681 and I just regurgitated it onto paper to Murphy. 1027 01:13:33,644 --> 01:13:35,549 I would call Murphy a wolf, 1028 01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:38,861 because of the way he lusting after the prey that he's stalked. 1029 01:13:39,292 --> 01:13:41,776 It was like we were all little sheep lying in our beds 1030 01:13:41,808 --> 01:13:43,985 We were good innocent Christians. 1031 01:13:44,042 --> 01:13:47,487 The wolf would come in, pick his prey, and molest them. 1032 01:14:43,541 --> 01:14:46,142 I sent that letter off to him and I got no reply, 1033 01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:48,650 so I wrote a second letter to Murphy. 1034 01:14:48,736 --> 01:14:50,189 Still no reply. 1035 01:14:56,233 --> 01:14:58,013 Weakland was always 1036 01:14:58,076 --> 01:15:01,271 considered to be someone who stood up for the Vatican. 1037 01:15:01,349 --> 01:15:04,662 He really was the bête noire of the conservative church, 1038 01:15:04,764 --> 01:15:08,451 because he was the leading spokesman for an intelligence, 1039 01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:10,707 progressive wing in the church. 1040 01:15:11,047 --> 01:15:15,156 Weakland inherited Murphy in 1976 1041 01:15:15,271 --> 01:15:19,515 and all through the '70s and through the '80s and up until that letter 1042 01:15:19,637 --> 01:15:22,388 Archbishop Weakland does absolutely nothing with him. 1043 01:15:22,752 --> 01:15:23,963 Not a thing. 1044 01:15:24,166 --> 01:15:26,872 He keeps gathering information on Murphy 1045 01:15:26,942 --> 01:15:30,575 because victims keep coming to the archdioceses about him. 1046 01:15:30,607 --> 01:15:32,357 "What's happening with him? What are you doing with him?" 1047 01:15:33,045 --> 01:15:36,429 He does psychological and criminological assessments of Murphy 1048 01:15:36,531 --> 01:15:40,593 where they determine he has assaulted probably 200 children. 1049 01:15:41,614 --> 01:15:44,918 The therapist's handwritten notes on her interviews with Murphy 1050 01:15:44,995 --> 01:15:47,767 not only determined that he was untreatable, 1051 01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:52,251 they also revealed his complex justifications for his crimes. 1052 01:16:39,899 --> 01:16:44,899 Father Thomas Brundage called priest paedophilia, 1053 01:16:44,969 --> 01:16:49,437 quote, "a form of homicide", unquote. 1054 01:16:49,497 --> 01:16:52,320 in that it takes away children's innocence. 1055 01:16:52,748 --> 01:16:56,060 Would you agree or disagree with that observation? 1056 01:16:56,607 --> 01:17:00,497 If you had asked me that in 1979, I would not have agreed, 1057 01:17:00,544 --> 01:17:04,856 but if you ask me that now in the year 2008, 1058 01:17:05,052 --> 01:17:08,786 I would say in almost every case, yes. 1059 01:17:09,984 --> 01:17:12,609 I wrote a letter to Archbishop Weakland 1060 01:17:12,672 --> 01:17:16,148 and Archbishop Weakland called me in to have a meeting. 1061 01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:20,046 What do you do about Father Murphy? 1062 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,565 It's a question that kept repeating itself over and over again. 1063 01:17:23,710 --> 01:17:26,523 The statutes of limitation had expired 1064 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:32,152 so criminal charges in the courts were out of the question. 1065 01:17:32,691 --> 01:17:35,862 Statute of Limitations in the Church courts, 1066 01:17:35,930 --> 01:17:41,430 according to Church law, Canon law, had expired long before the others. 1067 01:17:41,885 --> 01:17:45,264 Then it became evident that it might be possible 1068 01:17:45,362 --> 01:17:48,142 to still submit the Murphy case 1069 01:17:48,213 --> 01:17:51,963 on the basis of the way in which he used the confessional. 1070 01:17:52,053 --> 01:17:55,935 That was one where the Statute of Limitation never expires. 1071 01:17:57,209 --> 01:18:00,685 I submitted that to Cardinal Ratzinger's office. 1072 01:18:01,463 --> 01:18:03,322 Finally, I think after a year, 1073 01:18:03,408 --> 01:18:07,455 we got an answer back saying, "Yes, we can open the case." 1074 01:18:07,689 --> 01:18:12,736 A Catholic going to confession is at his or her absolutely the most vulnerable. 1075 01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:18,931 The priest uses his power over these vulnerable helpless children 1076 01:18:19,369 --> 01:18:23,110 to solicit some form of sexual gratification from him. 1077 01:18:23,892 --> 01:18:26,384 I don't think there's a vocabulary that we have 1078 01:18:26,564 --> 01:18:31,220 that can adequately describe how horrendous and duplicitous this is. 1079 01:19:01,474 --> 01:19:03,731 I did receive a receipt, 1080 01:19:04,052 --> 01:19:06,919 proving that the Vatican had received the letters. 1081 01:19:07,791 --> 01:19:13,942 But nothing happened, and that was truly disappointing. 1082 01:19:16,068 --> 01:19:20,888 The way in which we wanted to handle it then was to take it out of ministry totally, 1083 01:19:20,974 --> 01:19:24,662 and that's why we took the case to him. 1084 01:19:25,021 --> 01:19:29,130 Weakland had a private conversation with Cardinal Ratzinger. 1085 01:19:29,885 --> 01:19:34,208 In the end, Cardinal Ratzinger said, "Well, you probably shouldn't be docile." 1086 01:19:34,495 --> 01:19:37,690 Weakland also had a formal meeting to plead his case 1087 01:19:37,768 --> 01:19:41,481 at the Congregation For The Doctrine Of The Faith. 1088 01:19:41,749 --> 01:19:45,476 The deaf community in Milwaukee wanted to dismiss Father Murphy 1089 01:19:45,554 --> 01:19:49,764 from religious life, so my heart went out to them. 1090 01:19:49,843 --> 01:19:53,311 And it went out to the kids in particular 1091 01:19:53,395 --> 01:19:58,454 because they had not been believed by anybody. 1092 01:19:59,352 --> 01:20:02,008 This meeting was held in the last week of May. 1093 01:20:02,052 --> 01:20:05,857 In the middle of the summer, towards August, we got a letter 1094 01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:11,653 that this case would not go forward because Father Murphy was quite ill. 1095 01:20:15,191 --> 01:20:18,987 I felt awful having to go back and to say 1096 01:20:19,047 --> 01:20:23,228 there was nothing more I could do, I felt awful about that. 1097 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,441 Weakland actually made an effort to do 1098 01:20:28,543 --> 01:20:36,332 what any ordinary citizen would do - get the guy out and protect others. 1099 01:20:36,587 --> 01:20:43,641 However, he did it without sacrificing his standing 1100 01:20:43,736 --> 01:20:46,985 in the clerical culture and with the Vatican. 1101 01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:56,097 He had his own sexual activity that he had to hide and keep secret 1102 01:20:56,260 --> 01:21:00,002 and that distorts the whole picture. 1103 01:21:00,372 --> 01:21:04,100 Weakland's activity was a homosexual affair that he had had 1104 01:21:04,147 --> 01:21:07,514 with a graduate student who ultimately blackmailed him 1105 01:21:07,569 --> 01:21:11,467 and the Church for $450,000. 1106 01:21:12,021 --> 01:21:13,795 Weakland's fall from grace 1107 01:21:13,856 --> 01:21:15,966 had nothing to do with sexual abuse really, 1108 01:21:16,013 --> 01:21:18,317 I mean, it was a consensual relationship 1109 01:21:18,396 --> 01:21:20,482 with somebody who was 35. 1110 01:21:20,598 --> 01:21:23,753 The big problem was the payoff, the paying for silence. 1111 01:21:23,791 --> 01:21:25,442 That was the real scandal. 1112 01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:30,790 People who are concerned about about me asked me how I feel at this moment. 1113 01:21:32,643 --> 01:21:36,588 The best nouns to describe this feeling would be 1114 01:21:36,797 --> 01:21:38,086 "remorse", 1115 01:21:38,448 --> 01:21:39,838 "contrition", 1116 01:21:40,260 --> 01:21:41,674 "shame", 1117 01:21:42,002 --> 01:21:43,439 and "emptiness". 1118 01:21:44,416 --> 01:21:48,142 He is slandered all the time, people carelessly saying he's a paedophile, 1119 01:21:48,205 --> 01:21:49,702 which is all nonsense. 1120 01:21:49,744 --> 01:21:53,212 He's come out and said very openly that he is gay (in his book), 1121 01:21:53,243 --> 01:21:54,766 which also drive people nuts. 1122 01:21:54,844 --> 01:21:57,905 We've got an archbishop that said that he's gay. 1123 01:21:58,065 --> 01:22:03,002 This scandal distracted people from a key element of the Murphy story. 1124 01:22:03,154 --> 01:22:06,286 Rome may have refused to move against Murphy 1125 01:22:06,530 --> 01:22:11,537 because of a letter that Father Murphy had written to Cardinal Ratzinger. 1126 01:22:13,936 --> 01:22:17,459 "I have repented of any of my past transgressions 1127 01:22:17,606 --> 01:22:21,538 "and have been living peaceably in northern Wisconsin for 24 years. 1128 01:22:21,956 --> 01:22:25,159 "I simply want to live out the time that I have left 1129 01:22:25,229 --> 01:22:28,276 "in the dignity of my priesthood." 1130 01:22:30,554 --> 01:22:36,436 It's not just, "I'm an old man. I'm an old PRIEST. I'm an old priest. 1131 01:22:36,547 --> 01:22:40,934 "Don't throw me away because I have this special mark. 1132 01:22:41,328 --> 01:22:44,924 "I am another Christ." 1133 01:22:45,073 --> 01:22:48,612 See, there is a heresy that the Church teaches. 1134 01:22:49,523 --> 01:22:55,479 When a man is ordained a priest, he is changed ontologically. 1135 01:22:55,745 --> 01:23:00,120 He is made a different brand of human being. 1136 01:23:00,214 --> 01:23:03,354 A little less than the angels. 1137 01:23:04,284 --> 01:23:05,917 These are people set apart. 1138 01:23:05,965 --> 01:23:08,058 They are called, they are chosen by God, they want to protect 1139 01:23:08,171 --> 01:23:12,210 the sacramentality, the supernatural element and so that is 1140 01:23:12,265 --> 01:23:16,164 why they were very, very careful to do anything to the priest. 1141 01:23:17,154 --> 01:23:19,960 A priest can take bread and wine 1142 01:23:20,152 --> 01:23:24,554 and make Jesus Christ present on this altar. 1143 01:23:25,724 --> 01:23:29,309 He has power over heaven and hell. 1144 01:23:29,443 --> 01:23:31,824 Somebody comes to you in confession 1145 01:23:31,936 --> 01:23:35,714 and you say, "I won't absolve you" - 1146 01:23:36,034 --> 01:23:37,698 He'll be damned. 1147 01:23:39,917 --> 01:23:41,513 The church court informed me 1148 01:23:41,566 --> 01:23:44,615 that Murphy couldn't go to his church hearing, 1149 01:23:44,701 --> 01:23:46,576 because he was too ill. 1150 01:23:47,019 --> 01:23:49,357 And Murphy wouldn't live much longer. 1151 01:23:50,922 --> 01:23:54,127 But Murphy went to play the slots. 1152 01:23:55,396 --> 01:23:58,776 And then he collapsed and was taken to the hospital. 1153 01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:08,324 Murphy passed away and he was buried in his priestly vestments, 1154 01:24:08,584 --> 01:24:10,675 in a Catholic cemetery. 1155 01:24:16,495 --> 01:24:18,814 Did you ever meet Murphy? 1156 01:24:19,182 --> 01:24:20,189 Once! 1157 01:24:20,345 --> 01:24:23,931 I made him come down and visit me, and... 1158 01:24:26,447 --> 01:24:30,736 I... I don't , I don't know how to, how to analyze someone like that. 1159 01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:31,767 I don't. 1160 01:24:32,095 --> 01:24:33,860 Self-delusional... 1161 01:24:34,385 --> 01:24:37,213 uur... what's sincere and what isn't. 1162 01:24:37,284 --> 01:24:38,985 I couldn't work that out. 1163 01:24:40,112 --> 01:24:45,768 He certainly didn't come off as an evil, angry person, and so on... 1164 01:24:46,831 --> 01:24:49,960 Probably child-like it's the best way I could... 1165 01:24:50,151 --> 01:24:52,221 ... is best way I could describe it. 1166 01:25:12,117 --> 01:25:15,720 LOUDSPEAKERS, IN ITALIAN: 'God helps throughout history. 1167 01:25:15,916 --> 01:25:21,993 'While contemplating the mystery we give thanks to God, and proclaim, 1168 01:25:22,085 --> 01:25:24,789 'We thank you, oh Father.' 1169 01:25:25,941 --> 01:25:28,094 There are many people inside the Vatican 1170 01:25:28,165 --> 01:25:31,946 who still don't see how serious a matter this is. 1171 01:25:32,414 --> 01:25:35,290 And the code of Omerta, the code of silence, 1172 01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:37,407 keeps people from speaking out. 1173 01:25:42,235 --> 01:25:45,313 It's part of the whole psyche and mentality 1174 01:25:45,363 --> 01:25:47,321 and ethos of the hierarchy. 1175 01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:51,501 This idea that there are enemies out to destroy the church, 1176 01:25:51,536 --> 01:25:55,716 and do whatever you can to keep ammunition away from them. 1177 01:25:55,813 --> 01:25:59,711 For centuries the Vatican has been accustomed 1178 01:25:59,781 --> 01:26:04,213 to, ... to show to the world always that it is perfect. 1179 01:26:04,308 --> 01:26:08,973 So, you understand that the Vatican is terrorized that in Italy 1180 01:26:09,051 --> 01:26:13,800 you could have, also, thousands of sex abuse cases, 1181 01:26:13,886 --> 01:26:18,086 which, up to now, have been hidden. 1182 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,404 [IN ITALIAN:] 1183 01:27:39,488 --> 01:27:42,718 [IN ITALIAN:] 1184 01:28:03,759 --> 01:28:05,026 Throughout Italy, 1185 01:28:05,096 --> 01:28:08,819 news of victims is often drowned out by more powerful voices. 1186 01:28:09,512 --> 01:28:12,348 The signal from Vatican Radio is so strong 1187 01:28:12,387 --> 01:28:16,715 that Romans can often hear Sunday mass on their electric doorbells. 1188 01:28:16,935 --> 01:28:19,725 But when it comes to stories about sex abuse, 1189 01:28:19,838 --> 01:28:23,752 there is a deafening silence on Italy's national networks. 1190 01:28:24,111 --> 01:28:27,692 I think, for Catholic journalists, it has been a very difficult time. 1191 01:28:27,762 --> 01:28:29,427 My responsibility is a reporter. 1192 01:28:29,481 --> 01:28:32,872 I have to try to tell the truth, I don't work for the Catholic church. 1193 01:28:32,958 --> 01:28:35,113 I work for a Catholic publication. 1194 01:28:35,246 --> 01:28:38,777 We're not in the business of being cheer leader for the Holy Seal, or to the bishops, 1195 01:28:38,824 --> 01:28:41,971 but I still hear some of the old Monsignori in the Vatican, 1196 01:28:42,021 --> 01:28:46,028 saying, "Oh, boys have always done this, 1197 01:28:46,184 --> 01:28:48,434 "in all-male environments, it's normal." 1198 01:28:48,513 --> 01:28:50,989 And, I mean, "This wasn't abuse, these kids, 1199 01:28:51,057 --> 01:28:53,855 "they were interested, and it's rites of passage." 1200 01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:57,027 I mean... Even in 2011. 1201 01:28:57,292 --> 01:29:00,975 One bishop made the statement, "Little boys heal." 1202 01:29:01,051 --> 01:29:02,334 "They will get over it." 1203 01:29:02,454 --> 01:29:03,912 In reference to a priest 1204 01:29:03,966 --> 01:29:06,358 who had marauded a number of young boys, 1205 01:29:06,414 --> 01:29:08,461 10, 12, 13-year-old boys. 1206 01:29:08,602 --> 01:29:12,552 Ahh.. anally raping them, and thing like that. You don't heal from that. 1207 01:29:12,627 --> 01:29:17,354 In most instances, your life is never the same. It's ruined. 1208 01:29:22,571 --> 01:29:26,836 I realised that the Vatican was in control of every priest and every nun, 1209 01:29:26,892 --> 01:29:28,623 every bishop and every cardinal, 1210 01:29:28,654 --> 01:29:32,161 and they were all under oath, they couldn't talk about it. 1211 01:29:32,707 --> 01:29:36,273 I couldn't stand seeing the church tell everyone to keep quiet, 1212 01:29:36,352 --> 01:29:38,461 and not talk about it. 1213 01:29:40,534 --> 01:29:44,878 Terry, having written to Cardinal Sodano, 1214 01:29:45,008 --> 01:29:48,164 on that, I felt we could build a case. 1215 01:29:49,219 --> 01:29:52,426 Jeff said, "Your letter to the Vatican was very powerful, 1216 01:29:52,482 --> 01:29:55,341 "and I'd be honored to represent you." 1217 01:29:57,197 --> 01:30:00,222 I immediately agreed, and signed the paperwork. 1218 01:30:00,832 --> 01:30:02,691 When they left, I said to my wife, 1219 01:30:02,799 --> 01:30:05,660 "Jeff is going to help me sue the Vatican. 1220 01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:08,052 "He's going to get things in motion." 1221 01:30:09,312 --> 01:30:11,218 I love Jeff for that. 1222 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,506 Jeff Anderson & Associates filed a lawsuit 1223 01:30:14,572 --> 01:30:16,475 against the Vatican on Terry's behalf. 1224 01:30:16,795 --> 01:30:20,646 The suit named Pope Benedict, the current Vatican Secretary of State, 1225 01:30:20,713 --> 01:30:25,134 Cardinal Bertone, and the former Secretary of State, Cardinal Sodano. 1226 01:30:25,347 --> 01:30:28,870 What we implore the Vatican to do in this lawsuit, 1227 01:30:28,896 --> 01:30:31,185 and what we need them to do, is to act. 1228 01:30:31,269 --> 01:30:33,800 That is, to disclose the secrets, 1229 01:30:33,956 --> 01:30:36,713 the evidence of the crimes that they have, 1230 01:30:36,806 --> 01:30:39,581 the identities of the offenders, 1231 01:30:39,648 --> 01:30:42,073 and the bishops, archbishops and cardinals 1232 01:30:42,156 --> 01:30:45,351 that have been complicit in those crimes, worldwide. 1233 01:30:47,081 --> 01:30:49,198 As a result of Terry's lawsuit, 1234 01:30:49,425 --> 01:30:52,518 documents were uncovered revealing the role of Rome 1235 01:30:52,602 --> 01:30:54,578 in the worldwide sex abuse scandal 1236 01:30:54,893 --> 01:30:57,984 that caught the attention of the New York Times. 1237 01:30:59,259 --> 01:31:02,844 These documents seemed to turn the whole story 1238 01:31:02,909 --> 01:31:05,469 that we'd been writing all these years, on its head. 1239 01:31:05,788 --> 01:31:10,186 Up until then, what we thought was that American bishops were at fault. 1240 01:31:10,398 --> 01:31:12,499 With these documents, for the first time, 1241 01:31:12,567 --> 01:31:14,835 we saw communication between American bishops 1242 01:31:14,910 --> 01:31:18,921 and in particular the office run by then-Cardinal Ratzinger, 1243 01:31:19,090 --> 01:31:21,488 in which the American bishops are pleading 1244 01:31:21,557 --> 01:31:24,010 with officials in the Vatican, repeatedly, 1245 01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:28,450 saying, "Help us get this priest out of the priesthood. 1246 01:31:28,710 --> 01:31:31,786 "The victims are asking us to defrock him." 1247 01:31:32,108 --> 01:31:36,668 And the response from the Vatican is to have compassion for the priest, 1248 01:31:36,801 --> 01:31:38,669 and almost no thought at all about the victims. 1249 01:31:38,732 --> 01:31:40,864 And you see that in these documents. 1250 01:31:41,566 --> 01:31:43,988 I was completely unprepared for the reaction. 1251 01:31:44,026 --> 01:31:47,761 I had no idea how big the story was. 1252 01:31:47,849 --> 01:31:52,738 I got hate mail, I got hate phone calls that were anti-Semitic. 1253 01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:55,890 The New York Times, and me personally, 1254 01:31:55,969 --> 01:31:58,211 we were accused of being anti-Catholic. 1255 01:31:59,116 --> 01:32:01,906 This is being driven by Jeffrey Anderson, 1256 01:32:01,966 --> 01:32:05,758 teaming up with the New York Times, going back half a century. 1257 01:32:05,816 --> 01:32:08,992 The alleged abuse took place in the 1950s. 1258 01:32:09,097 --> 01:32:13,726 The Vatican didn't find out about the case until 1996. 1259 01:32:13,815 --> 01:32:17,041 Ratzinger goes ahead and orders an investigation, 1260 01:32:17,084 --> 01:32:19,521 and during that two-year period while they are investigating, 1261 01:32:19,577 --> 01:32:21,060 Father Murphy dies. 1262 01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:23,676 Now what exactly was Ratzinger supposed to do? 1263 01:32:23,747 --> 01:32:25,598 Where is the wrongdoing? 1264 01:32:25,778 --> 01:32:30,129 It appeared to me that Mr Donohue didn't even read the story. 1265 01:32:30,895 --> 01:32:37,340 The victims, and their advocates, met with Archbishop Cousins in 1974. 1266 01:32:38,433 --> 01:32:42,770 And there were representatives of the Vatican in that meeting. 1267 01:32:42,865 --> 01:32:44,701 They were introduced to two men who said 1268 01:32:44,796 --> 01:32:46,874 they were from the Papal Nuncio's office. 1269 01:32:47,642 --> 01:32:50,014 There was a way that the Vatican was informed 1270 01:32:50,047 --> 01:32:53,131 of that case, as early as 1974. 1271 01:32:54,477 --> 01:32:57,656 The Murphy case was reinforced Jeff Anderson 1272 01:32:57,789 --> 01:33:00,765 in his role as the Vatican's pubic enemy number one. 1273 01:33:00,828 --> 01:33:05,554 By 2010 he had filed over 1500 lawsuits against the Church. 1274 01:33:05,695 --> 01:33:09,116 Supporters of the Vatican portray him as a money hungry sheist 1275 01:33:09,304 --> 01:33:11,429 caching in on the pain of the victims 1276 01:33:11,609 --> 01:33:13,858 And victims see the lawsuits he brings 1277 01:33:14,029 --> 01:33:18,498 as the only way they can hold the church to account for what it has done. 1278 01:33:18,587 --> 01:33:20,042 IN ITALIAN: 1279 01:33:29,741 --> 01:33:32,700 Deny, minimize, and blame. 1280 01:33:32,764 --> 01:33:35,989 And so they now blame the media, 1281 01:33:36,488 --> 01:33:39,823 they now blame the lawyers, 1282 01:33:40,213 --> 01:33:43,534 they now even blame the survivors. 1283 01:33:43,714 --> 01:33:47,034 In 2011, Jeff Anderson & Associates 1284 01:33:47,130 --> 01:33:51,059 attempted to serve legal papers from Terry's lawsuit, to the Vatican. 1285 01:33:51,483 --> 01:33:55,137 The FedEx package was returned, with the Vatican's comment marked, 1286 01:33:55,186 --> 01:33:57,188 "undesired and unwanted". 1287 01:33:57,308 --> 01:33:58,971 Forcing Anderson's next attempt 1288 01:33:59,057 --> 01:34:01,307 to be made through the US State Department. 1289 01:34:01,588 --> 01:34:06,596 The church claims to be, and is recognised as, a state. 1290 01:34:06,773 --> 01:34:09,791 States have immunities, states have their own law. 1291 01:34:09,875 --> 01:34:13,742 They are severely disordered, and that's why they abuse. 1292 01:34:13,849 --> 01:34:15,921 Geoffrey Robertson is a human rights lawyer, 1293 01:34:15,977 --> 01:34:18,726 and the author of the book The Case of the Pope. 1294 01:34:18,828 --> 01:34:20,969 He seeks to hold the Pope accountable 1295 01:34:21,021 --> 01:34:22,687 for crimes against humanity, 1296 01:34:22,739 --> 01:34:26,312 and to demolish the diplomatic immunity of the Vatican. 1297 01:34:26,448 --> 01:34:28,862 The Vatican is not really a state. 1298 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:33,068 It's a tiny little religious enclave in Rome. 1299 01:34:33,141 --> 01:34:36,513 It doesn't have a people. There are no Vaticanians. 1300 01:34:36,749 --> 01:34:41,100 No-one gets born in the Vatican, except by accident. 1301 01:34:41,201 --> 01:34:44,319 It's a group of celibate religious figures. 1302 01:34:44,713 --> 01:34:48,239 It's got no army, no soccer team, 1303 01:34:48,294 --> 01:34:50,460 none of the attributes of statehood. 1304 01:34:50,507 --> 01:34:54,147 Yet it has this power because of an historical anomaly. 1305 01:34:54,729 --> 01:34:58,910 In 1929, Mussolini made an alliance 1306 01:34:58,994 --> 01:35:02,730 with the man who became Pope Pious XI. 1307 01:35:03,134 --> 01:35:08,460 The church supported Mussolini's one-party, fascist state, 1308 01:35:08,524 --> 01:35:14,100 in return for being given the attribute of statehood. 1309 01:35:14,228 --> 01:35:16,805 It is the creation of a state 1310 01:35:16,852 --> 01:35:20,250 for the Catholic Church, by fascists. 1311 01:35:21,228 --> 01:35:24,414 This fence is the border of the country 1312 01:35:24,506 --> 01:35:26,233 that is known as the Vatican. 1313 01:35:26,302 --> 01:35:30,789 178 countries now acknowledge the Vatican as a state. 1314 01:35:30,970 --> 01:35:34,890 Politicians like to go and meet the Pope. 1315 01:35:34,975 --> 01:35:38,328 They like to have the blessing of the Pope, 1316 01:35:38,385 --> 01:35:40,945 to encourage their voters. 1317 01:35:41,744 --> 01:35:44,476 But the Pope poses a problem. 1318 01:35:44,569 --> 01:35:46,202 According to Canon Law, 1319 01:35:46,272 --> 01:35:50,281 the Pontiff cannot be judged by any civil or religious authority. 1320 01:35:50,358 --> 01:35:52,304 He is beyond the law. 1321 01:35:52,713 --> 01:35:55,898 It will be, I think, an important task, 1322 01:35:56,541 --> 01:36:00,273 to work out how to bring the Pope beneath the law, 1323 01:36:00,335 --> 01:36:04,593 by arguing either that the Vatican is not a real state 1324 01:36:04,663 --> 01:36:07,272 or that the degree of his negligence 1325 01:36:07,345 --> 01:36:09,303 over the child abuse scandal 1326 01:36:09,366 --> 01:36:13,076 does involve him in a crime against humanity. 1327 01:36:18,099 --> 01:36:19,677 This is a global church 1328 01:36:19,761 --> 01:36:23,323 that is growing most rapidly in the developing world. 1329 01:36:23,469 --> 01:36:28,542 In these cultures, the idea of someone coming forward 1330 01:36:28,676 --> 01:36:32,715 and saying a priest has done something wrong, 1331 01:36:32,799 --> 01:36:34,144 it doesn't happen. 1332 01:36:34,223 --> 01:36:36,332 There is such a stigma to this problem, 1333 01:36:36,393 --> 01:36:41,432 so much shame and embarrassment, but we know it goes on there. 1334 01:36:41,475 --> 01:36:42,975 Because it's a human problem. 1335 01:36:43,130 --> 01:36:46,193 And there have started to be cases, in Latin America, 1336 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:50,896 in the Philippines, even some in Africa and India, very slowly. 1337 01:36:51,030 --> 01:36:56,591 They are about where the American church was in the 1960s and 1970s. 1338 01:36:56,667 --> 01:37:00,428 There is going to be a delayed reaction in that part of the world. 1339 01:37:02,890 --> 01:37:06,981 In America, Bishops have taken some steps to protect children 1340 01:37:07,053 --> 01:37:09,528 and to reckon with the sex abuse crisis 1341 01:37:09,951 --> 01:37:14,099 But the Church has also begun to attack survivor's groups in Court. 1342 01:37:15,131 --> 01:37:17,591 One of the church’s most public defenders 1343 01:37:17,654 --> 01:37:21,940 has been Timothy Dolan, who was recently promoted to Cardinal. 1344 01:37:22,733 --> 01:37:27,014 In 2009, Dolan was the Archbishop of Milwaukee, 1345 01:37:27,084 --> 01:37:30,045 where he endured legal settlements to abuse victims 1346 01:37:30,086 --> 01:37:33,456 that cost the church more than $26 million. 1347 01:37:33,776 --> 01:37:35,397 When you think of what happened, 1348 01:37:35,468 --> 01:37:39,452 both that a man who proposes to act in the name of God 1349 01:37:39,518 --> 01:37:41,932 would've abused an innocent young person, 1350 01:37:41,986 --> 01:37:46,196 and that some bishops would have, in a way, countenanced that, 1351 01:37:46,267 --> 01:37:48,860 by reassigning abusers, that's nothing less than hideous. 1352 01:37:48,964 --> 01:37:51,128 That's nothing less than nauseating. 1353 01:37:51,254 --> 01:37:54,768 The second story, morally, is the church's reaction to that, 1354 01:37:54,823 --> 01:37:57,291 which I think has been good. 1355 01:37:57,759 --> 01:38:00,061 Many would disagree. 1356 01:38:00,312 --> 01:38:02,671 The fact is that abuse cases 1357 01:38:02,743 --> 01:38:05,499 continue to surface all over the country. 1358 01:38:06,403 --> 01:38:08,957 While in Milwaukee, Dolan met with victims, 1359 01:38:09,019 --> 01:38:13,395 but also took bold steps to protect the church from their claims. 1360 01:38:14,601 --> 01:38:17,164 Survivors note that Dolan moved assets 1361 01:38:17,209 --> 01:38:19,898 from living victims to dead souls, 1362 01:38:20,064 --> 01:38:25,165 by transferring $55 million of church money to a cemetery trust. 1363 01:38:25,936 --> 01:38:31,149 Then in 2011, the Archdiocese declared bankruptcy. 1364 01:38:32,650 --> 01:38:37,520 But in 2012, 570 victims of sex abuse, 1365 01:38:37,612 --> 01:38:39,533 including Arthur and Gary, 1366 01:38:39,599 --> 01:38:42,947 were granted the right to a trial against the Church 1367 01:38:42,983 --> 01:38:44,822 in Milwaukee's bankruptcy court. 1368 01:38:45,166 --> 01:38:49,088 Their goal was to uncover more documents regarding sex abuse 1369 01:38:49,158 --> 01:38:52,752 and to obtain cash settlements for survivors. 1370 01:38:54,393 --> 01:38:57,588 This is the largest organization in the world. 1371 01:38:57,703 --> 01:39:00,533 You have rivers of cash, 1372 01:39:00,717 --> 01:39:04,763 Sunday after Sunday,that flow into these collection plates. 1373 01:39:04,835 --> 01:39:07,194 There is great concern within the hierarchy 1374 01:39:07,265 --> 01:39:10,710 about the impact of the financial losses. 1375 01:39:10,780 --> 01:39:13,335 Eight diocese have taken bankruptcy protection 1376 01:39:13,407 --> 01:39:15,219 to negotiate mass settlements, 1377 01:39:15,449 --> 01:39:19,902 Boston lost more than 50% of it's parishes. 1378 01:39:22,728 --> 01:39:32,831 IN ITALIAN: 1379 01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:50,681 Benedict XVI would like to heal the situation, to heal the victims. 1380 01:39:51,255 --> 01:39:54,907 On the other hand, he is in a sort of stalemate 1381 01:39:55,015 --> 01:39:58,790 because the organizations of the victims 1382 01:39:59,015 --> 01:40:02,735 want full transparency about the past. 1383 01:40:02,799 --> 01:40:06,994 They don't want only that the priests are defrocked. 1384 01:40:07,134 --> 01:40:10,159 They want full transparency about the past. 1385 01:40:10,318 --> 01:40:16,428 And I don't think that Benedict XVI is able to resolve this problem. 1386 01:40:18,139 --> 01:40:21,521 The ongoing revelations have provoked survivors 1387 01:40:21,616 --> 01:40:26,209 to demand a complete accounting of all cases of paedophile priests. 1388 01:40:26,367 --> 01:40:30,446 It's the central demand of the Jerry Kohut lawsuit against the Vatican 1389 01:40:30,860 --> 01:40:33,521 Open the archives. 1390 01:40:41,997 --> 01:40:44,154 The Church is a perfect society. 1391 01:40:44,672 --> 01:40:48,357 And its witness is as perfect society to the rest of the world. 1392 01:40:48,472 --> 01:40:51,451 If we could get that out of our minds... 1393 01:40:53,266 --> 01:40:56,370 Maybe we could take the pedestal away from the priest, 1394 01:40:56,403 --> 01:40:58,342 take the pedestal away from the cardinals, 1395 01:40:58,405 --> 01:41:02,366 take the pedestal away from the whole church, 1396 01:41:02,647 --> 01:41:07,718 and be willing to say, "This is us, world. This is us. This is who we are." 1397 01:41:08,363 --> 01:41:10,966 "We are a church of imperfect people." 1398 01:41:12,150 --> 01:41:15,331 Jesus wasn't afraid of humanity, and we shouldn't be either. 1399 01:41:18,981 --> 01:41:20,800 When I'm asked in court, often times, 1400 01:41:20,847 --> 01:41:23,425 "How many times have you testified on behalf of the church?" 1401 01:41:23,661 --> 01:41:26,082 And my response usually is, "Always." 1402 01:41:26,193 --> 01:41:28,567 And they'll say, "Really?!" "Yeah, really." 1403 01:41:28,973 --> 01:41:30,496 The people, they are the church. 1404 01:41:30,573 --> 01:41:33,016 The victims, their mothers, fathers, friends, 1405 01:41:33,107 --> 01:41:34,638 those are the church. 1406 01:41:34,848 --> 01:41:36,349 They're the people of God, 1407 01:41:36,387 --> 01:41:39,629 as is found very clearly in the Gospel stories of Christ. 1408 01:41:39,701 --> 01:41:42,365 They are the people of God, they're the church. 1409 01:41:45,381 --> 01:41:50,849 Many of the people of God see their lawsuits as taking back the church. 1410 01:41:51,639 --> 01:41:54,763 In a key victory in the Milwaukee bankruptcy 1411 01:41:54,827 --> 01:41:58,748 victims uncovered nearly 50,000 pages of documents 1412 01:41:58,850 --> 01:42:01,027 which revealed predatory priests 1413 01:42:01,155 --> 01:42:04,272 and the role the Vatican played in protecting them. 1414 01:42:04,678 --> 01:42:08,271 Terry recognized that the Pope's power as a head of state 1415 01:42:08,326 --> 01:42:10,122 would beat back his lawsuit. 1416 01:42:10,357 --> 01:42:12,404 so he withdrew from his own case 1417 01:42:12,662 --> 01:42:15,896 and join Garry, Arthur and the bankruptcy plaintiffs 1418 01:42:16,045 --> 01:42:19,130 in their legal crusade to protect children. 1419 01:42:22,662 --> 01:42:27,283 Hi, my name is Gary Smith. Hello. I thank you all for coming here today. 1420 01:42:29,212 --> 01:42:31,298 One of our heroes. 1421 01:42:33,759 --> 01:42:36,996 Thank you all for coming here and supporting us here today. 1422 01:42:37,305 --> 01:42:38,949 Thank you. I love you. 1423 01:42:48,599 --> 01:42:51,951 I'm so glad that all of us are here and willing to share, 1424 01:42:52,046 --> 01:42:55,405 and I thank the whole team of lawyers that have been here, 1425 01:42:55,466 --> 01:42:56,990 supporting all of us. 1426 01:42:57,049 --> 01:43:00,291 I really went into hiding for about 35 years. 1427 01:43:00,368 --> 01:43:04,482 And now I'm here, and I feel really good. 1428 01:43:04,529 --> 01:43:06,974 The future of the children is what's important. 1429 01:43:07,060 --> 01:43:10,473 And I decided to come and support everyone, all the victims. 1430 01:43:12,083 --> 01:43:17,688 That filing of that bankruptcy did not stop us. 1431 01:43:17,775 --> 01:43:20,065 And will not stop us. 1432 01:43:22,026 --> 01:43:25,510 The idea of a group of deaf men, 1433 01:43:25,595 --> 01:43:29,782 leafleting the cars outside of a cathedral, 1434 01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:33,622 with a wanted poster of a priest, 1435 01:43:33,733 --> 01:43:37,975 at a time when nobody suspected 1436 01:43:38,172 --> 01:43:42,396 priests of wrongdoing, not to mention sexual abuse, 1437 01:43:42,538 --> 01:43:48,108 and trying to shout and to warn, 1438 01:43:49,124 --> 01:43:51,975 that just bowled me over. 1439 01:43:52,380 --> 01:43:56,138 They were really the first victims who realised 1440 01:43:56,238 --> 01:43:59,808 that they had to make public what was taking place. And they did that. 1441 01:44:00,854 --> 01:44:02,894 And to think that a quarter of a century later, 1442 01:44:03,042 --> 01:44:05,659 this case is bringing about change, 1443 01:44:05,717 --> 01:44:08,420 that is a moment of resurrection. 1444 01:44:08,521 --> 01:44:11,461 Coming out of this silence, of this deaf community, 1445 01:44:11,540 --> 01:44:17,448 is this unbelievably loud and deafening cry for justice. 1446 01:44:56,667 --> 01:45:00,177 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Resynched & amended by RosniMah124558

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