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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,254 Hedy wanted to do 2 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:36,256 something important with her life. 3 00:01:36,471 --> 00:01:39,305 She wanted to make her mark. 4 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:42,259 But she was totally judged by that face. 5 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,431 One of the most glamorous stars 6 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:50,141 show business ever has produced... 7 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,943 One of the most glamorous stars the screen has ever known... 8 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:55,067 And one of the most beautiful women in the world... 9 00:01:55,282 --> 00:01:56,272 Well, shall we all say it together? 10 00:01:56,491 --> 00:01:58,323 - I think we all know. - ♪ The most beautiful girl 11 00:01:58,535 --> 00:01:59,867 in the world ♪ 12 00:02:00,078 --> 00:02:01,159 Hedy Lamarr. 13 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:03,784 She becomes the model for Snow White. 14 00:02:03,999 --> 00:02:06,332 And she inspired Catwoman. 15 00:02:06,543 --> 00:02:09,160 Oh, my God, I mean, she was... 16 00:02:09,379 --> 00:02:14,124 she was the best-looking movie star that ever lived. 17 00:02:14,343 --> 00:02:17,336 She became my inspiration. 18 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,386 Thank you, thank you, Hedy, thank you. 19 00:02:19,598 --> 00:02:22,807 It's not Hedy, it's Hedley, Hedley LaMarr. 20 00:02:23,018 --> 00:02:26,887 I don't know whether it's true, but you hear things. 21 00:02:27,105 --> 00:02:30,223 I heard that she was a scientist. 22 00:02:30,442 --> 00:02:31,273 So is this true? 23 00:02:32,486 --> 00:02:34,273 Within the nerd community at Google, 24 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:36,775 Hedy Lamarr was this beloved figure. 25 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:40,108 For me, she is this perfect underdog, 26 00:02:40,327 --> 00:02:42,614 like, crime-fighter-by-night story 27 00:02:42,829 --> 00:02:46,197 because she lived this life of great accomplishments 28 00:02:46,416 --> 00:02:49,830 and people didn't really know about it. 29 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:53,004 I remember sitting up in a bare attic with my mother, 30 00:02:53,215 --> 00:02:55,332 she said, "Look, I got a patent." 31 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:56,836 "You got a patent, Mom?" 32 00:02:57,052 --> 00:02:58,714 - "Yeah." - "You invented something?" 33 00:02:58,929 --> 00:03:03,344 "Yeah, I invented a secret communication system, look." 34 00:03:03,558 --> 00:03:06,392 And, today, we have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. 35 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:08,765 That's my mother's technology. 36 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:09,936 You see? 37 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:11,855 No. 38 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:13,979 Well, it is kind of hard to explain. 39 00:03:15,487 --> 00:03:20,983 Hedy had one of the most recognizable faces of her time, 40 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,534 and yet, she said she was never seen 41 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:26,909 for who she was. 42 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:28,160 So, who was she? 43 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:38,132 Tell me something that I didn't know about you. 44 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,170 I want to be a simple... I am! 45 00:03:42,389 --> 00:03:46,008 I'm a very simple, complicated person. 46 00:03:47,436 --> 00:03:48,392 Could you help her? 47 00:03:48,603 --> 00:03:50,139 - Yes, but not here. - But you know what I mean? 48 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:51,436 You know what I mean! 49 00:03:51,648 --> 00:03:54,561 This book you're writing now, Hedy, are there... 50 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:58,895 Incidents, things that nobody ever knew about me. 51 00:03:59,114 --> 00:04:01,447 - Regrets? - Oh, no, no regrets. 52 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,820 You learn from everything all the time. 53 00:04:04,035 --> 00:04:04,866 When I was a child, 54 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:06,740 she was always working on her story. 55 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:09,322 She was going to let the world know her version 56 00:04:09,541 --> 00:04:11,954 and her story and her autobiography 57 00:04:12,169 --> 00:04:14,912 in her words, but yet, it never came to be. 58 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:18,168 Hedy became a recluse. 59 00:04:18,383 --> 00:04:20,249 She wouldn't even see her family. 60 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:23,427 We wanted to spend time with her, 61 00:04:23,638 --> 00:04:26,255 but she kept us away. 62 00:04:26,475 --> 00:04:28,011 There was so much scandal. 63 00:04:28,226 --> 00:04:31,344 There were different chapters of scandal. 64 00:04:31,563 --> 00:04:35,307 There was her movie Ecstasy that she made as an adolescent, 65 00:04:35,525 --> 00:04:38,609 the nudity and the explicitness of that, 66 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:42,279 and then the multiple marriages and divorces, 67 00:04:42,491 --> 00:04:44,357 and then the arrests. 68 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:48,320 My mother has a hard side and an easy side, 69 00:04:48,538 --> 00:04:53,283 and as her son, growing up with Hedy was difficult. 70 00:04:55,045 --> 00:04:57,332 I mean, she had so many sides and so many faces, 71 00:04:57,547 --> 00:05:01,257 and even I couldn't understand who Hedy Lamarr was. 72 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:09,348 I'd been waiting for somebody to contact me 73 00:05:09,559 --> 00:05:11,141 about Hedy Lamarr 74 00:05:11,353 --> 00:05:13,219 because I had the tapes. 75 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:22,361 Where did I find it? 76 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:23,904 It's embarrassing. 77 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:26,573 I found it behind that blue trash can. 78 00:05:26,785 --> 00:05:29,152 I'd had stuff stowed there and I moved it out of the way, 79 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:31,112 and there it was. 80 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:32,913 So, in all, there were four tapes 81 00:05:33,124 --> 00:05:35,207 and this is the first one. 82 00:05:35,418 --> 00:05:37,284 Ready? 83 00:05:38,547 --> 00:05:39,253 Yes? 84 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:40,830 This is Fleming Meeks at Forbes. 85 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:43,336 Oh, hello! Thank you so much for the roses. 86 00:05:43,552 --> 00:05:44,133 You're very welcome. 87 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,836 I love them! 88 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:48,591 I'm very pleased. 89 00:05:48,807 --> 00:05:50,139 I was a staff writer at Forbes 90 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:54,185 and my father was an astrophysicist at MIT, 91 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:55,637 and he called me one day, and he said, 92 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:57,848 "I've just talked with this friend of mine here 93 00:05:58,066 --> 00:05:59,352 and he told me this amazing story 94 00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:03,278 about Hedy Lamarr," and, of course, I pursued it. 95 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:06,196 I want to sell my life story to Ted Turner 96 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:08,195 because it's unbelievable. 97 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:11,244 The opposite of what people think. 98 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:13,286 The brains of people are more interesting 99 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:16,161 than the looks, I think. 100 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:19,619 People have the idea I'm sort of a stupid thing. 101 00:06:19,838 --> 00:06:22,125 I never knew I looked good to begin with. 102 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:24,832 Because my mother wanted a boy 103 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:27,338 named Georg (George). 104 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:30,012 So unfortunately I didn't become that and... 105 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:32,089 she wasn't too thrilled about that. 106 00:06:34,477 --> 00:06:35,968 I was... 107 00:06:36,187 --> 00:06:37,268 different, I guess. 108 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,813 Maybe I came from a different planet, who knows. 109 00:06:41,443 --> 00:06:42,274 But whatever it is... 110 00:06:42,485 --> 00:06:44,898 inventions are easy for me to do. 111 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:48,906 My mother was very inventive. 112 00:06:49,117 --> 00:06:52,155 In this article, "Hedy's interest in gadgets 113 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,828 really started at the age of five 114 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,249 when she took an old-fashioned music box apart 115 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:00,827 and put it back together again." 116 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:06,458 And this was her childhood music box. 117 00:07:08,053 --> 00:07:09,669 You wind up this little rabbit here 118 00:07:09,888 --> 00:07:13,302 and it plays an Austrian melody. 119 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:22,974 My mother was curious. 120 00:07:23,193 --> 00:07:26,186 She had a very intellectually curious mind. 121 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:28,270 She wanted to know how things worked, 122 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:31,198 and her father told her things. 123 00:07:31,409 --> 00:07:34,243 Although her father's official position 124 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,161 was as bank director, 125 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:40,492 he was also interested in technology. 126 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:45,212 So, when they went for their walks, 127 00:07:45,423 --> 00:07:48,757 he would point out to her how things worked. 128 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:52,258 The streetcar with its electric trolleys 129 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:54,805 leads these wires to a factory 130 00:07:55,016 --> 00:07:58,509 that generates electricity. 131 00:07:58,728 --> 00:08:02,312 She learned to associate invention 132 00:08:02,524 --> 00:08:05,892 with this father, whom she adored. 133 00:08:07,195 --> 00:08:07,935 My father... 134 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:10,362 He was a wonderful person. 135 00:08:11,658 --> 00:08:12,990 I miss him. 136 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:21,207 They lived in Vienna in a fashionable district, 137 00:08:21,418 --> 00:08:23,205 the 19th District. 138 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:24,536 It was heavily Jewish 139 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:28,088 but also very artistically inclined. 140 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:30,541 Hedy's parents were both assimilated Jews. 141 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,798 That was very common in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. 142 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:39,137 They were wealthy, they were cultured. 143 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:43,141 They took their daughter to the opera, to the theater. 144 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:47,145 Everyone was connected with this world of make believe. 145 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:49,734 I miss Austria. 146 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:51,107 Have you ever been there? 147 00:08:51,322 --> 00:08:52,403 I've been to Austria, yes. 148 00:08:52,615 --> 00:08:54,447 Not Vienna? 149 00:08:54,659 --> 00:08:56,742 Fall is the best time to go there. 150 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:00,116 Where did you go to school? 151 00:09:00,331 --> 00:09:01,993 In a private school in Vienna. 152 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:05,542 My favorite thing in school was... 153 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:08,337 What's that thing when you mix things? 154 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:11,211 - Chemistry. - Chemistry! Thank you. 155 00:09:11,426 --> 00:09:12,883 Well I'm good at that. 156 00:09:14,345 --> 00:09:15,461 In a different era, 157 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:20,095 she might very well have become a scientist. 158 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,017 At the very least, it's an option 159 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:25,346 that was derailed by her beauty. 160 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:33,646 By the time she was a teenager, 161 00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:37,199 when she walked into a room, conversation stopped. 162 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,993 She was probably a little dazzled by this power, 163 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:44,244 testing it out, 164 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:46,200 seeing how it works and so forth. 165 00:09:48,505 --> 00:09:49,916 There's a word for what I was. 166 00:09:50,131 --> 00:09:50,917 A... what? 167 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:53,465 'Enfant terrible.' 168 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:55,918 I know that. I know that much French. 169 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:57,173 Well good! 170 00:09:57,388 --> 00:10:01,132 There are stories about her heading to the photographer 171 00:10:01,351 --> 00:10:05,641 to get her photos taken with and without clothes. 172 00:10:08,316 --> 00:10:11,775 She lived in a society where there were 173 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:17,448 many prominent women who had not only incredible careers, 174 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:20,447 but loads of lovers. 175 00:10:20,662 --> 00:10:23,120 Women, especially in the arts, 176 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:25,288 could have certain kinds of liberties 177 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:31,337 that they would not find in normal bourgeois society. 178 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:34,006 Hedy decided one day, at the age of 16, 179 00:10:34,217 --> 00:10:36,083 that she was ready 180 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:40,842 and went off to the largest film studio and walked in. 181 00:10:41,057 --> 00:10:43,549 Very quickly, within a couple days, 182 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:45,600 they had her in a walk-on. 183 00:10:48,606 --> 00:10:52,475 I have seen the little weird Viennese films 184 00:10:52,694 --> 00:10:54,151 that she made in the beginning 185 00:10:54,362 --> 00:10:56,524 where she's a little bit awkward 186 00:10:56,739 --> 00:10:58,901 but clearly beautiful. 187 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:08,124 But it's clearly the 1933 film Ecstasy 188 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:12,328 that really brought her into everyone's consciousness. 189 00:11:14,716 --> 00:11:16,878 Hedy became world famous 190 00:11:17,093 --> 00:11:21,007 the moment she appeared naked in Ecstasy. 191 00:11:24,726 --> 00:11:26,137 The Pope denounced it 192 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:29,891 and Hitler refused it to be shown. 193 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:33,599 People were just shocked by it. 194 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,402 It was quite controversial because she simulated an orgasm. 195 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:39,901 I think it was the first time anybody had ever done that. 196 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,318 I mean, in some ways, it was analogous to a sex tape. 197 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:48,326 This was so scandalous and really marked her 198 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:49,952 as this certain type of woman. 199 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:54,211 I don't know if you ever saw that. 200 00:11:54,422 --> 00:11:56,459 I don't believe I have. 201 00:11:56,674 --> 00:12:00,634 There was a scene in which I was totally alone 202 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:03,337 but it was cut so that it 203 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,173 showed that it was a very hot sex scene, 204 00:12:06,392 --> 00:12:07,348 which it wasn't. 205 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:08,971 You must have seen a picture of that, right? 206 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:10,223 Yes, ma'am. 207 00:12:10,438 --> 00:12:13,397 And I said, "Why do I have to put my arms together?" 208 00:12:13,608 --> 00:12:15,600 And they said, "Don't ask so many questions." 209 00:12:15,818 --> 00:12:18,231 "If you don't do what I say then I put the needle 210 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:21,314 through the couch so you do what I tell you." 211 00:12:21,532 --> 00:12:22,318 And I was... 212 00:12:22,533 --> 00:12:26,447 I didn't want to make any commotion, so I did that. 213 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:28,780 And when I came back to Vienna 214 00:12:28,998 --> 00:12:30,239 my father... I mean... 215 00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:32,074 it was horrendous. 216 00:12:32,293 --> 00:12:35,957 He wanted to kill me practically. 217 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,333 What I did though... 218 00:12:37,548 --> 00:12:38,413 right after that 219 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:40,374 I said, "I'll show them." 220 00:12:43,012 --> 00:12:45,299 Fritz Kreisler composed a musical called 221 00:12:45,515 --> 00:12:48,303 'Elisabeth of Austria, ' the Queen of Austria, 222 00:12:48,518 --> 00:12:51,807 and I had a big, big, big success with that. 223 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:54,809 On stage. 224 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:56,390 I had ovations 225 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:58,646 and my father cried. 226 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:06,325 And then I got married right after that. 227 00:13:06,536 --> 00:13:08,368 Hedwig, as an actress, 228 00:13:08,579 --> 00:13:11,868 drew, of course, the attention of many people, 229 00:13:12,083 --> 00:13:17,295 and one of those was a man named Fritz Mandl. 230 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:21,215 I was married to a munitions tycoon in Austria! 231 00:13:22,343 --> 00:13:25,632 He is the Henry Ford of Austria. 232 00:13:25,847 --> 00:13:30,262 He, at that point, is 14 years her senior. 233 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:33,093 He is allied with the Nazis 234 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:36,351 because he's an armaments manufacturer. 235 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:38,933 As it is the same today, 236 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:43,237 a lot of wealthy men would like to decorate themselves 237 00:13:43,448 --> 00:13:45,280 with beautiful women, and I think she was, 238 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:48,154 for a minute, fascinated with that as well. 239 00:13:51,205 --> 00:13:54,789 We had a country house with 25 guest rooms. 240 00:13:55,001 --> 00:13:56,367 And we went hunting. 241 00:13:56,586 --> 00:13:59,169 And I loved that. 242 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:00,837 Do you know guns? 243 00:14:01,049 --> 00:14:01,914 Yes. 244 00:14:02,133 --> 00:14:06,093 I had a Browning and I shot a stag into the neck 245 00:14:06,304 --> 00:14:08,091 350 meters. 246 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:09,262 Meters? Very long. 247 00:14:09,474 --> 00:14:11,466 I'm a good shot so be careful! 248 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:17,180 Hedy was Mandl's armpiece 249 00:14:17,398 --> 00:14:19,310 at the banquets that he served 250 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:23,109 for admirals in the German and Italian Navy. 251 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:26,064 She sat there and it was her job to be beautiful, 252 00:14:26,282 --> 00:14:29,070 but she was bored out of her mind. 253 00:14:32,747 --> 00:14:36,787 Fritz Mandl was, by German measures, Jewish, 254 00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:39,163 and therefore, Hitler was concerned 255 00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:40,335 not to be seen with him, 256 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:43,038 and I doubt very much if Hitler was a guest 257 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:46,091 at one of their houses, but Mussolini was. 258 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:51,846 I assume that your first husband 259 00:14:52,058 --> 00:14:53,594 was supplying arms to the... 260 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:56,223 To the Germans. 261 00:14:56,437 --> 00:14:57,223 But he never let me in on... 262 00:14:57,438 --> 00:15:00,647 He never even let me come into the factory. 263 00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:01,848 I disturbed the people. 264 00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:03,184 I didn't know why... 265 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,520 Fritz did not like the effect 266 00:15:06,739 --> 00:15:10,232 that his beautiful wife had on other men. 267 00:15:10,451 --> 00:15:15,196 He was immensely jealous and paranoid about his wife. 268 00:15:16,958 --> 00:15:18,415 He was constantly convinced 269 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:22,210 that she might be having an affair. 270 00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:24,914 The big mistake my husband at the time did 271 00:15:25,133 --> 00:15:27,466 he bought up prints of that... 272 00:15:27,677 --> 00:15:29,543 dumb picture! 273 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:32,254 Mandl had the problem of this film, 274 00:15:32,473 --> 00:15:36,012 this dirty picture which he tried to buy up, 275 00:15:36,227 --> 00:15:39,095 and they started cranking them out by the dozens, 276 00:15:39,313 --> 00:15:42,272 and he eventually gave up because, obviously, 277 00:15:42,483 --> 00:15:45,442 they could make as many copies as he chose to buy. 278 00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:50,405 He turned out to be someone who had the maids listen in 279 00:15:50,616 --> 00:15:52,152 on her phone calls. 280 00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:54,576 She had everything she could ever want, 281 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:58,997 except the one thing that Hedwig Kiesler always wanted 282 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:00,619 which was freedom. 283 00:16:06,007 --> 00:16:08,841 By 1937, the war was inevitable, 284 00:16:09,051 --> 00:16:11,293 and she was in a desperate situation. 285 00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:12,719 Because after all, 286 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:15,923 Hitler had everything in the palm of his hand. 287 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:18,099 When Ecstasy was released, 288 00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:21,930 Hitler told the American press he was banning it 289 00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:25,061 because the lead actress was Jewish. 290 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,107 Jewish people were not allowed out on streets 291 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,194 at certain times of the day and, gradually, 292 00:16:36,412 --> 00:16:40,281 they were denied more and more civil rights. 293 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:41,832 And this is one thing that led 294 00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:46,629 to Hedy's father Emil's death was his stress and worry 295 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:49,923 about what was happening. 296 00:16:50,134 --> 00:16:52,217 He died suddenly from a heart attack. 297 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:56,421 And I think that was the turning point for her. 298 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:01,511 Deep traumatic experiences change us, 299 00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:03,641 and she came out the other side 300 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:08,351 remembering what her father had advised her from childhood: 301 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:10,185 "Be yourself. 302 00:17:10,404 --> 00:17:12,817 Choose and take what you want," 303 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:16,196 which was certainly Hedy's quality all her life. 304 00:17:19,121 --> 00:17:20,362 There are stories, 305 00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:22,038 whether they're apocryphal or not, 306 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:25,163 who knows, but almost like a prison escape. 307 00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:29,170 Hedy had people watching her all the time. 308 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,089 There was no way to break loose. 309 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:34,134 So, one night, they were having a dinner party, 310 00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:37,884 and my mother helped choose the maids 311 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,967 and caretakers, and so she found someone 312 00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:44,223 that looked like her a lot 'cause she had this in mind. 313 00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:46,304 So, she had this sleeping powder, 314 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:47,890 and she made this tea 315 00:17:48,109 --> 00:17:51,819 and she switched the cups with the maid, 316 00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:53,770 and the maid drank it and kind of fell asleep. 317 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:55,106 Now my mother's all ready. 318 00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:56,565 She took all her jewels, 319 00:17:56,784 --> 00:17:58,275 put 'em in the lining of her coats. 320 00:17:58,494 --> 00:17:59,951 She put on the maid's costume. 321 00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:02,700 She jumped on her bicycle and rode off. 322 00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:09,703 My parents had friends in England. 323 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,629 So I went there. 324 00:18:14,385 --> 00:18:16,843 Pre-war London was a safe haven. 325 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:18,966 Hedy spent several months there 326 00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:21,514 trying to figure out her next steps. 327 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:24,468 We one day went to a movie. 328 00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:27,145 I forgot even what it was. 329 00:18:27,356 --> 00:18:29,973 And they happened to have a lion. 330 00:18:30,192 --> 00:18:33,276 You know, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. 331 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:35,524 So I said, "Oh I want to be in that!" 332 00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:40,530 She quickly found an American film agent. 333 00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:44,279 Somebody took me to a hotel 334 00:18:44,498 --> 00:18:46,740 and there was a little man there. 335 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:48,370 I didn't know who he was, what he was. 336 00:18:48,586 --> 00:18:50,703 I couldn't speak English, obviously. 337 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:52,287 Louis B. Mayer was the little man. 338 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:53,121 That was Louis B. Mayer? 339 00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:55,173 With his entourage, yeah. 340 00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,297 Louis B. Mayer, of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 341 00:18:58,512 --> 00:19:02,347 had come to Europe to buy up all the actors and actresses 342 00:19:02,558 --> 00:19:04,675 who were escaping Nazi Germany. 343 00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:07,261 He figured he could take them back to Hollywood 344 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,645 and enslave them in his Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer empire 345 00:19:11,859 --> 00:19:14,021 for a cheap price. 346 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:18,697 He offered her $125 a week and reminded her 347 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:21,696 that she had to keep her clothes on. 348 00:19:21,911 --> 00:19:24,278 And she said, "I'm sorry, that's not good enough," 349 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:25,783 and walked out. 350 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,489 She impressed him, I'm sure. 351 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:30,951 People didn't usually turn down Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. 352 00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:34,295 But minutes after she walked out, 353 00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:35,793 she had second thoughts 354 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,842 and quickly booked passage on the Normandie, 355 00:19:39,053 --> 00:19:42,171 the ship Mayer was sailing back to New York. 356 00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:47,133 She, I think, probably rather cleverly 357 00:19:47,353 --> 00:19:50,266 made sure that she saw him about the decks 358 00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:52,063 in her tennis clothes and so forth, 359 00:19:52,274 --> 00:19:53,390 in her bathing suit. 360 00:19:56,112 --> 00:19:58,320 On the first or second night out, 361 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:02,024 Hedy went to her very modest cabin 362 00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:06,283 and pulled out her designer couturier gown 363 00:20:06,497 --> 00:20:10,411 and she put on the last baubles that she owned 364 00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,743 and she walked through the dining room 365 00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:16,797 of the Normandie, past Louis B. Mayer's table. 366 00:20:20,302 --> 00:20:23,466 There's Douglas Fairbanks Jr. sitting right there, 367 00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:27,140 and his eyes are glued to Hedy Lamarr, 368 00:20:27,351 --> 00:20:30,014 as are the eyes of every man and woman 369 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,562 in that dining room. 370 00:20:32,773 --> 00:20:36,312 And Louis B. Mayer knew he had to have her. 371 00:20:36,527 --> 00:20:37,768 He snapped his fingers 372 00:20:37,987 --> 00:20:40,445 and I didn't know why, I didn't know what... 373 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:44,445 all of a sudden I got $500 every week. 374 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,198 Hedy Kiesler, Hedy Kiesler, Kiesler. 375 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,530 We gotta do something about the name. 376 00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:52,617 So, Louis B. Mayer's wife was there and she said, 377 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:54,747 "Well, Barbara La Marr is one of my favorites. 378 00:20:54,962 --> 00:20:56,669 Why not Hedy Lamarr?" 379 00:20:56,881 --> 00:20:58,167 Lamarr, the sea, perfect. 380 00:20:58,382 --> 00:20:59,589 Let's be Hedy Lamarr. 381 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,211 She didn't speak a word of English. 382 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:07,138 She learned those few lines on the boat to convince 383 00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:09,636 Louis B. Mayer that he should hire her as an actress. 384 00:21:11,145 --> 00:21:12,932 She created her own reality, 385 00:21:13,147 --> 00:21:14,638 and I find that really fascinating. 386 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:18,607 You know, when things don't come easy 387 00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:20,230 figure out why... 388 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:23,063 and then do something about it. 389 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,649 And if people... walk over you 390 00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:27,404 then don't let them! 391 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,363 She stepped off the ship in New York 392 00:21:31,582 --> 00:21:34,120 to crowds of flashing light bulbs 393 00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:39,126 and reporters firing questions at her as Hedy Lamarr, 394 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:42,128 the latest discovery of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. 395 00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:50,639 Hello, everybody, 396 00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:52,808 this is Hedda Hopper reporting to you from Hollywood, 397 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:55,478 that fabulous place where everyone wants to live 398 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:56,725 but seldom does. 399 00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,937 In Hollywood, she was kicking her heels 400 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:07,115 and listening to music and being free. 401 00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,161 She was a little bit worried because the contract, 402 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:14,990 it had kind of a trial time before they used her, 403 00:22:15,209 --> 00:22:17,292 and she wasn't getting any movies or parts 404 00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:20,996 and she was very insecure that they didn't want her, 405 00:22:21,215 --> 00:22:22,547 especially since she made Ecstasy 406 00:22:22,758 --> 00:22:26,342 and that was kind of a black mark on her. 407 00:22:26,554 --> 00:22:29,012 Right from the beginning, one of her first interviews 408 00:22:29,223 --> 00:22:32,136 is with Hedda Hopper, who was the famous gossip columnist. 409 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,388 That's where she does her greatest acting 410 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:37,220 is for Hedda Hopper, crying tears 411 00:22:37,439 --> 00:22:39,476 about how she was forced into this nude scene 412 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:43,185 and somehow perverted by these European filmmakers 413 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:46,272 who have no morals whatsoever. 414 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,992 And then, my mother went to a party 415 00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:55,743 by chance one night, and Charles Boyer was there 416 00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:57,540 and he was smitten by her. 417 00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:00,789 And he said, "Can you be in my movie?" 418 00:23:01,005 --> 00:23:04,339 "Oh, no, no, no, my English isn't good enough, no." 419 00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:07,258 And he took her hand, kissed it, he said, "I'll hold your hand 420 00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:08,926 through the whole film." 421 00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:10,219 - "You will?" - "Yes." 422 00:23:10,431 --> 00:23:11,763 "All right, I'll do it." 423 00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,340 So, that's how that started. 424 00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:22,524 Charles Boyer was a diamond thief. 425 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,852 She had diamonds. 426 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:30,111 He thought she was a wealthy, noble-born French woman. 427 00:23:30,326 --> 00:23:33,160 He didn't realize that she was another scamp like him 428 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:34,702 from the streets of Paris. 429 00:23:37,207 --> 00:23:39,745 There's a wonderful line in the film where he says, 430 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,496 "What did you do before?" 431 00:23:41,712 --> 00:23:43,920 Before what? 432 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:45,793 Before the jewels. 433 00:23:46,008 --> 00:23:48,341 I wanted them. 434 00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:50,384 That film made her a star instantly. 435 00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:57,013 When I was a kid, I saw her in Algiers, 436 00:23:57,227 --> 00:23:59,219 I said, "I'm gonna get to Hollywood 437 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:01,350 and I'm gonna marry her. 438 00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:03,227 And if I don't get to marry her, 439 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,432 I'll get to buy her dinner 440 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,063 and feel her up under the table. 441 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,143 Whatever I can get." 442 00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:14,280 After Algiers, Hedy Lamarr was on the cover 443 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:16,157 of all the movie magazines. 444 00:24:16,372 --> 00:24:19,706 Suddenly, you have in Hollywood, 445 00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:23,501 a lot of women parting their hair in the middle, 446 00:24:23,712 --> 00:24:26,125 darkening it, and changing their makeup 447 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:29,799 to be little Hedy Lamarrs. 448 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,002 Every woman wanted to be Hedy 449 00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:34,258 and every man wanted to date her. 450 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:37,261 She seduced men and women. 451 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:41,015 She was able to meet artists, directors, 452 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:44,439 brilliant actors, the greats at that time. 453 00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:48,227 Including Kennedy, whom I knew very well. 454 00:24:48,445 --> 00:24:49,185 Oh really? 455 00:24:49,405 --> 00:24:51,362 Yeah, before he became president. 456 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,109 He asked me out. 457 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,442 So he said, "What can I bring you?" 458 00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:57,823 and I said, "Oranges," because... 459 00:24:58,038 --> 00:25:01,031 I lack vitamin C. 460 00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:02,457 Would you believe any other person 461 00:25:02,668 --> 00:25:05,001 would've asked, "Oranges"? 462 00:25:05,212 --> 00:25:06,293 That's the way I am. 463 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,167 A fool! 464 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:10,294 No matter what, you expect Hedy Lamarr 465 00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:13,377 to be glamorous, sophisticated. 466 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:15,552 Quite the opposite, she loved picnics, 467 00:25:15,764 --> 00:25:17,926 she loved to go scavenger hunting, 468 00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:19,633 she loved to play Charades. 469 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:24,142 She wasn't very good at it, but she had a great time. 470 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:26,097 You know, no pretenses. 471 00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:28,273 She was fun to be with. 472 00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,145 At that point, she could have married anyone. 473 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:33,821 She surprised her fans 474 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:36,320 by choosing a portly screenwriter 475 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:39,619 and producer named Gene Markey. 476 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:44,624 Her letters show she was madly in love with him. 477 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,794 "Dearest Mommy, I never would have thought 478 00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:51,669 that I could ever fall in love again. 479 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:54,171 Gene has an unbelievable number of traits 480 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,218 in common with Dad. 481 00:25:56,430 --> 00:25:59,639 So considerate, it's touching." 482 00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:03,093 He promised Hedy he'd write screenplays with her. 483 00:26:03,312 --> 00:26:05,679 They even adopted a son. 484 00:26:05,898 --> 00:26:08,015 But within months of their marriage, 485 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,897 he began dating other beautiful actresses. 486 00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:14,104 Hedy was heartbroken. 487 00:26:14,323 --> 00:26:17,657 She said people never got past her face. 488 00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:20,201 You never knew if they loved you 489 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:23,155 or their fantasy of you. 490 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:25,911 "A man does not try to find out what is inside. 491 00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:28,584 He does not try to scratch the surface. 492 00:26:28,796 --> 00:26:31,288 If he did, he might find something much more beautiful 493 00:26:31,507 --> 00:26:34,591 than the shape of a nose or the color of an eye." 494 00:26:37,888 --> 00:26:39,754 Only a year after Algiers, 495 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:42,215 not only was her marriage failing, 496 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:45,427 her career was in trouble as well. 497 00:26:45,646 --> 00:26:48,935 She was terribly unhappy with the films she did for MGM 498 00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:51,687 because Louis B. Mayer gave her bad scripts 499 00:26:51,902 --> 00:26:54,269 and the films did nothing. 500 00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:56,354 You never got very much out of this, did you? 501 00:26:56,573 --> 00:26:57,654 I got plenty. 502 00:26:57,866 --> 00:27:00,734 All I asked for, except the frosting. 503 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:02,569 Hedy actually went to Louis B. Mayer 504 00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:05,747 and petitioned for a role in Boom Town. 505 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,870 I'm going to do it because I want to. 506 00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:09,246 It was a small part, 507 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,545 and Louis B. Mayer, at first, was reluctant. 508 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:13,917 Okay, stranger. 509 00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:20,303 Boom Town was a huge, tremendous success 510 00:27:20,514 --> 00:27:22,096 for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. 511 00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:23,093 After Boom Town, 512 00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:27,052 Hedy Lamarr's career was secure. 513 00:27:27,271 --> 00:27:32,107 It's almost unfathomable how busy she was in 1940. 514 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:39,148 They were expected to do what the studio wanted. 515 00:27:39,366 --> 00:27:42,325 Bette Davis described it as a "slave system." 516 00:27:42,536 --> 00:27:44,152 And they were owned in the sense 517 00:27:44,371 --> 00:27:47,114 that they had signed contracts 518 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:51,451 that bound them to studios for seven-year periods. 519 00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:53,332 My mother was worked like a racehorse. 520 00:27:53,547 --> 00:27:56,164 She had to run fast all the time. 521 00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:58,375 They gave her pills to wake her up to perform. 522 00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:01,678 Pretty sure it was some form of speed. 523 00:28:01,889 --> 00:28:05,303 And then, to make them sleep, they gave them sleeping pills. 524 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:09,477 They worked six days a week. 525 00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:12,271 Women really had to get to the studio early 526 00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:14,974 because they had to have their hair done, 527 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:18,437 their makeup put on, their costumes put on. 528 00:28:18,655 --> 00:28:22,274 And then, you know, they worked into the night. 529 00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,404 And here's what's remarkable. 530 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,907 After a grueling day on the set, 531 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,829 Hedy didn't go to bed. 532 00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:30,828 She wasn't socializing. 533 00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:34,286 Hedy was at home working on her latest invention. 534 00:28:39,176 --> 00:28:41,168 Inventing was her hobby. 535 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,845 She not only had a complete inventing table 536 00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:46,844 set up in her house, 537 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:50,928 but Howard Hughes gave her a small version 538 00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,638 of the set of equipment which he had in the trailer 539 00:28:53,857 --> 00:28:56,190 where she stayed in between takes 540 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:57,767 in her motion pictures. 541 00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:01,480 When Hedy first met Howard Hughes, 542 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:04,065 he was dating every Hollywood star, 543 00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:06,321 and she did date him. 544 00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:10,200 Howard Hughes, of course, was a great airplane designer, 545 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,281 so probably they had 546 00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,585 a compatible spirit with one another. 547 00:29:15,796 --> 00:29:18,504 It was definitely cerebral because she said 548 00:29:18,715 --> 00:29:21,332 he was the worst lover she ever had. 549 00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:24,255 Howard Hughes wanted to build 550 00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:26,713 the fastest planes in the world 551 00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,640 so he could sell them to the Air Force. 552 00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:33,686 She was fascinated by his mind and his factories, 553 00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:35,980 and she wanted to go and see 554 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:37,602 where everything was being made and built, 555 00:29:37,818 --> 00:29:39,480 and she met all the scientists. 556 00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:40,936 He said to her, 557 00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:43,396 "Anything you want my scientists to do for you, 558 00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,278 just ask 'em and they will do it." 559 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:50,035 He relied on me. 560 00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:53,081 I thought the aeroplanes were too slow, 561 00:29:53,292 --> 00:29:55,124 so I decided that's not right. 562 00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:58,294 They shouldn't be square, the wings... 563 00:29:58,505 --> 00:30:00,292 So I bought a book of fish 564 00:30:00,507 --> 00:30:02,169 and I bought a book of birds 565 00:30:02,384 --> 00:30:04,341 and then used the fastest bird, 566 00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:07,136 connected it with the fastest fish. 567 00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:09,464 I drew it together and showed it to Howard Hughes 568 00:30:09,683 --> 00:30:11,925 and he said, "You're a genius." 569 00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:13,180 - You did? - Yep. 570 00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:16,353 Yeah. 571 00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:21,938 Very strange person that was. 572 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:23,315 Very brilliant. 573 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,897 But very misunderstood as well. 574 00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:30,694 She invented, during that period, 575 00:30:30,912 --> 00:30:34,952 a tablet that would fizz up and make a cola. 576 00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:39,127 I had two chemists Howard Hughes gave me to do that. 577 00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:41,330 You know, during the war nobody had Coca-Cola 578 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:44,712 and I wanted to compress it into a cube 579 00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:48,260 so that servicemen and factory people, 580 00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:52,716 all they had to have was water and put it in. 581 00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,142 But I didn't realize that every state 582 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,438 has different strengths of water, 583 00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:01,265 so it dissolved on the bottom, on top, in the middle. 584 00:31:01,485 --> 00:31:03,101 It was one of my boo boos. 585 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,403 I didn't do that right. 586 00:31:05,614 --> 00:31:08,197 But I don't have to work on ideas. 587 00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:09,865 They come naturally. 588 00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:14,495 What must have been going through the mind 589 00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:16,322 of this young woman. 590 00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:21,286 She's become a huge international film star. 591 00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:24,088 But at the very same time, her country, 592 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:28,168 the past as she has known it, has been eliminated. 593 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,093 In 1940, the war was raging in Europe 594 00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:36,221 and the United States was a neutral country, 595 00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,143 and Hitler was basically taking over 596 00:31:38,355 --> 00:31:40,017 all of Western Europe 597 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:42,599 and threatening to take over Great Britain. 598 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:44,229 If only I could do something. 599 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:46,606 Oh, darling, you've done so much already. 600 00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:50,987 You almost made me forget about being afraid. 601 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:53,614 Oh, I am afraid now. 602 00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,405 She did have a secret. 603 00:31:57,624 --> 00:32:00,207 When Hedy arrived at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, 604 00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:04,459 Louis B. Mayer specifically ordered all of his stars 605 00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:08,087 not to talk about their religious backgrounds. 606 00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:09,917 People would say, "You're Jewish," 607 00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:13,005 and I'm like, "No," and I called Mom and said, 608 00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:14,885 "Mom, are we Jewish," and she said, 609 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,217 "Don't be ridiculous." 610 00:32:19,312 --> 00:32:23,727 I never heard the word "Jewish" from my mother's lips. 611 00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:28,403 The Jewish part of her, she just left behind. 612 00:32:30,407 --> 00:32:34,742 She was probably afraid for many reasons. 613 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,615 And I could feel it, 614 00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:40,073 I could see that she was protecting herself. 615 00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,246 I became a manicurist. 616 00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,294 That's how I met Hedy. 617 00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:49,711 I told her that I survived the war with camps 618 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:52,259 and running for my life. 619 00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:56,590 We talked about what was going on 620 00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,596 and how I come to America. 621 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:05,023 I find myself on an American ship. 622 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:09,398 I was shaking with fear because we heard noises. 623 00:33:11,031 --> 00:33:14,274 We were attacked by the Nazi submarines. 624 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:18,445 I remember saying, "Oh, dear God, 625 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:23,283 please don't kill me now, let me see America." 626 00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:28,204 At the time, Hedy's mother was preparing 627 00:33:28,423 --> 00:33:31,712 to make the treacherous Atlantic crossing herself. 628 00:33:31,927 --> 00:33:35,386 She'd fled Austria and gotten as far as London 629 00:33:35,597 --> 00:33:39,181 where she and Hedy were able to write each other. 630 00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:42,476 "Mommy, my mind is so preoccupied 631 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,395 and I would love it if you could come immediately 632 00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:47,564 since the times, they are very uncertain. 633 00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:51,777 I have been listening to the radio day and night 634 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,274 for over a week, 635 00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:55,152 and I've gotten barely any sleep." 636 00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:56,483 Vivid pictures of a naval action 637 00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:58,112 have just been released. 638 00:33:58,328 --> 00:34:01,366 One day, in the summer of 1940, 639 00:34:01,581 --> 00:34:04,324 a shipload of children was torpedoed. 640 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:08,412 All hands lost including 83 children. 641 00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,374 At the time, the German U-boats 642 00:34:13,593 --> 00:34:17,257 were on the verge of winning the war. 643 00:34:17,472 --> 00:34:19,088 They seemed to be unsinkable 644 00:34:19,307 --> 00:34:21,219 because they easily outmaneuvered 645 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:25,178 the outdated British torpedoes. 646 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:30,188 In times of crisis, most of us feel powerless, 647 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,485 but a few discover in themselves 648 00:34:32,696 --> 00:34:35,154 unexpected strength. 649 00:34:35,365 --> 00:34:38,028 And Hedy being Hedy, she said, 650 00:34:38,243 --> 00:34:41,202 "I'm gonna do something about that." 651 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:43,951 So, in this article, Hedy says, 652 00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:46,157 "I got the idea for my invention 653 00:34:46,376 --> 00:34:48,709 when I tried to think of some way 654 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,128 to even the balance for the British. 655 00:34:51,339 --> 00:34:56,209 A radio-controlled torpedo I thought would do it." 656 00:34:56,428 --> 00:34:59,387 A torpedo launched on a given trajectory 657 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:02,557 might need to be changed, redirected. 658 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,259 You want, ideally, your launching boat 659 00:35:05,478 --> 00:35:08,767 to communicate with the torpedo. 660 00:35:08,982 --> 00:35:13,067 The problem is you can't control radio communications. 661 00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:15,144 They're not secure. 662 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:17,821 Your enemy, if they're smart, 663 00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:21,071 finds the frequency with which you're talking to the torpedo 664 00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:22,117 and jams it. 665 00:35:25,373 --> 00:35:26,580 Jamming. 666 00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:30,080 The Germans fill the air with radio interference. 667 00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,207 She came up with the idea of a secret way 668 00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:34,163 of guiding that torpedo to the target 669 00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:37,375 that couldn't be interrupted, that couldn't be jammed, 670 00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:38,960 that couldn't be messed with. 671 00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:40,169 It was secret. 672 00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:44,887 Instead of just one transmit frequency communicating, 673 00:35:45,101 --> 00:35:47,764 she said, "What if we changed those frequencies constantly 674 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,891 in sync with each other?" 675 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:52,940 Frequency hopping. 676 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,858 You couldn't jam it because you'd only jam 677 00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:58,154 a split second of it in a single frequency. 678 00:35:58,365 --> 00:36:00,607 So, frequency change, frequency hop, 679 00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:02,157 frequency hop, frequency hop. 680 00:36:02,369 --> 00:36:05,737 That concept, secure radio communications, 681 00:36:05,955 --> 00:36:07,617 was brilliant. 682 00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:11,667 Now there are various versions of how she came up 683 00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:15,872 with her profoundly original idea. 684 00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:19,175 One theory is that she stole it. 685 00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:22,379 The man who championed that idea was an engineer 686 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:25,840 who once interviewed her named Robert Price. 687 00:36:26,059 --> 00:36:29,268 Robert Price was a pioneer in secret communications, 688 00:36:29,479 --> 00:36:32,017 and he gave me his number and I called him up. 689 00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:34,181 She's an inventor 690 00:36:34,401 --> 00:36:38,941 but I don't know in what sense exactly she is an inventor. 691 00:36:39,155 --> 00:36:39,861 If I want to be harsh 692 00:36:40,073 --> 00:36:43,532 I would say she was a plagiarizer, you understand? 693 00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:44,779 Hedy's first husband 694 00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:48,487 was Austria's leading munitions manufacturer. 695 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:51,620 Robert Price said to me that he thought 696 00:36:51,835 --> 00:36:54,828 that she just smuggled the idea out of her husband's board room. 697 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:58,835 In fact, he called her the Mata Hari of World War Il, 698 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,339 the most notorious spy who seduced men 699 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:05,046 and got all kinds of secrets out of them. 700 00:37:05,265 --> 00:37:08,258 The engineers at Mandl's firm might just have known 701 00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:10,308 about the frequency hopping. 702 00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:15,772 Is that how you were aware of frequency hopping? 703 00:37:15,984 --> 00:37:18,442 No. What, my husband? 704 00:37:18,653 --> 00:37:23,193 No. Nobody did that... invent that before. 705 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:25,274 I mean, I know what I did. 706 00:37:25,493 --> 00:37:27,860 I don't care what other people say about me. 707 00:37:29,998 --> 00:37:31,705 The record is very clear 708 00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:36,752 that the Germans had not come across the idea 709 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:39,751 that would be Hedy's signal contribution, 710 00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:43,084 what she called "frequency hopping." 711 00:37:43,303 --> 00:37:46,216 I don't think she was a spy. 712 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:49,390 It was so obvious. I mean they shot torpedoes 713 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:52,218 in all directions and never hit the target, 714 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:55,805 so I invented something that does. 715 00:37:56,024 --> 00:37:59,108 I mean, I can't explain. I have an inventive mind. 716 00:38:02,405 --> 00:38:06,399 I think Hedy got her idea from a curious coincidence 717 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,531 that, in 1939, 718 00:38:09,746 --> 00:38:12,238 the Philco Radio Company produced 719 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,995 a new top-of-the-line remote control. 720 00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:16,997 There's a new gadget just out, see? 721 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:20,705 You dial your station here and you hear it over there. 722 00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:22,586 - Well, where are the wires? - There ain't any wires. 723 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,337 That's the trick. 724 00:38:24,552 --> 00:38:28,171 We know Hedy was interested in the remote control 725 00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:31,382 and how it worked because the device is sketched 726 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:33,968 in the invention notebooks. 727 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:40,065 In here is all the evidence of my mother's invention. 728 00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:42,142 It's this. 729 00:38:42,362 --> 00:38:45,105 She dialed in a radio station and she said, 730 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:48,532 "If we hop around frequencies, just like I'm hopping 731 00:38:48,743 --> 00:38:52,953 around radio stations on this dialer, 732 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:56,874 when I transmit this information to the torpedo, 733 00:38:57,085 --> 00:38:59,168 we can make it totally secret." 734 00:39:01,965 --> 00:39:04,298 So the Philco magic box probably inspired 735 00:39:04,509 --> 00:39:06,091 the whole thing. 736 00:39:09,806 --> 00:39:12,765 The fact that she understands this frequency component 737 00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:16,310 of the signal and how that changes 738 00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:20,185 is, I mean, genius in a way. 739 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:25,274 I mean, we know Thomas Edison was not an engineer. 740 00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,571 You don't have to have eight years 741 00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:29,774 of a graduate degree in engineering 742 00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:33,031 in order to come up with something new. 743 00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:35,613 In the inventing process, there is a moment 744 00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:39,701 of high lucidity, of clear thinking. 745 00:39:39,919 --> 00:39:43,458 In the case of Hedy, she had this lucid moment 746 00:39:43,673 --> 00:39:46,507 without knowing how she was going to put it together. 747 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:49,836 She didn't have the training to make it happen. 748 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:51,920 And she said that, "The idea was mine, 749 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:55,224 but the implementation was George's." 750 00:39:55,435 --> 00:39:59,224 My mother met George Antheil at Janet Gaynor's party. 751 00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:02,477 And she liked George Antheil a lot. 752 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,479 So, when she left the party early, 753 00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:06,310 she wrote her phone number in lipstick 754 00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:09,567 on the windshield of his car. 755 00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:13,776 They discovered that they had a great deal in common. 756 00:40:13,995 --> 00:40:16,282 At the time, I think they both felt 757 00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:20,036 like they were not understood for their true qualities. 758 00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:24,621 George Antheil was really quite an unusual American composer, 759 00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:26,626 extremely avant-garde. 760 00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:29,879 Now musicians all over the world love to play Antheil's music, 761 00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:32,586 they love to get into that confrontational space 762 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:33,795 that was his. 763 00:40:34,015 --> 00:40:35,506 He had a gun, then he would pull it out 764 00:40:35,725 --> 00:40:37,887 and he'd bang it down on the piano 765 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:39,263 right at the beginning of the show, 766 00:40:39,479 --> 00:40:40,845 and shout, "Lock the doors!" 767 00:40:41,064 --> 00:40:43,021 Sometimes it sounds like his music is jazz 768 00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:44,188 put into a Cuisinart. 769 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,313 It's just, you know, chopped up and there it is. 770 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:53,357 Well, George Antheil wrote a book 771 00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:58,116 called Bad Boy of Music, and in chapter 32, 772 00:40:58,331 --> 00:41:02,200 "Hedy Lamarr and I invent a radio torpedo." 773 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:05,206 He says, "We began talking about the war, 774 00:41:05,421 --> 00:41:07,162 which in the late summer of 1940, 775 00:41:07,382 --> 00:41:10,090 was looking most extremely black." 776 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:11,963 Hedy said that she did not feel comfortable 777 00:41:12,178 --> 00:41:14,295 sitting there in Hollywood and making lots of money 778 00:41:14,514 --> 00:41:16,255 when things were in such a state, 779 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,932 and that she was thinking seriously of quitting MGM 780 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:21,601 and going to Washington D.C. to offer her services 781 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,476 to the newly established Inventors Council. 782 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,609 She was very patriotic, she loved America. 783 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:32,655 She was grateful to be here, and she wanted Hitler dead. 784 00:41:32,865 --> 00:41:34,777 So did George Antheil. 785 00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:36,859 George had a kid brother 12 years younger 786 00:41:37,078 --> 00:41:40,071 whose name was Henry. 787 00:41:40,289 --> 00:41:44,533 1941, he boarded a plane, and moments later, 788 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,586 the plane was shot down by two Soviet fighters. 789 00:41:47,797 --> 00:41:51,461 This is the first American killed in World War Il. 790 00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:56,466 George, he was just devastated. 791 00:41:58,433 --> 00:42:02,347 He wanted revenge for his brother's assassination 792 00:42:02,562 --> 00:42:05,555 and opportunity with someone who knew 793 00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,639 what she was talking about. 794 00:42:09,402 --> 00:42:13,066 Hedy and George worked on three inventions together, 795 00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:17,400 all weapons meant to help the Allies fight Germany. 796 00:42:17,618 --> 00:42:19,905 I have letters from George Antheil. 797 00:42:20,121 --> 00:42:21,828 In one of the letters, he wrote, 798 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,124 "All she wants to do is stay home and invent things. 799 00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:28,873 She is an incredible combination of childish ignorance 800 00:42:29,088 --> 00:42:32,047 and definite flashes of genius." 801 00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:36,085 "She calls in the middle of the night 802 00:42:36,304 --> 00:42:37,795 because an idea hit her." 803 00:42:40,266 --> 00:42:41,928 So, my mother was a pest. 804 00:42:42,143 --> 00:42:44,635 She had to invent, she had to invent, 805 00:42:44,854 --> 00:42:47,938 and she pulled George Antheil in with her. 806 00:42:48,149 --> 00:42:50,482 The most successful of their inventions 807 00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:53,276 was a secret communication system 808 00:42:53,488 --> 00:42:56,276 based on Hedy's idea of frequency hopping. 809 00:42:56,491 --> 00:42:57,777 George is taking all these notes, 810 00:42:57,992 --> 00:43:00,109 and I think there was some sort of a-ha moment 811 00:43:00,328 --> 00:43:02,615 where he said, "You know, I have this system," 812 00:43:02,830 --> 00:43:06,119 I guess he got from dealing with player pianos, 813 00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:08,701 "that we might be able to adapt 814 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,630 and make... make your concept work." 815 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,627 George Antheil got thrown out of Trenton High School 816 00:43:14,842 --> 00:43:16,174 when he was 17, 817 00:43:16,385 --> 00:43:19,503 so he had no special training in engineering. 818 00:43:19,722 --> 00:43:23,215 What he did know was how to synchronize player pianos. 819 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,562 George's most famous composition 820 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:32,232 was for a film called Ballet Mécanique. 821 00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:37,188 He scored it for 16 player pianos. 822 00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:39,147 George's big realization was, 823 00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:41,734 if piano rolls can activate piano keys, 824 00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:44,445 why couldn't they activate radio frequencies 825 00:43:44,664 --> 00:43:46,951 in both torpedo and the ship? 826 00:43:48,334 --> 00:43:50,701 The basic idea is that by using 827 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,004 two miniature piano rolls 828 00:43:54,215 --> 00:43:56,298 that would start at the same moment 829 00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:59,172 and turn at the same speed, 830 00:43:59,387 --> 00:44:03,131 a ship and a torpedo could secretly communicate 831 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:06,137 on the same pattern of frequencies. 832 00:44:06,352 --> 00:44:09,641 Ultimately, Hedy and George wanted their torpedo and ship 833 00:44:09,856 --> 00:44:12,724 to communicate on 88 different frequencies, 834 00:44:12,942 --> 00:44:14,399 like an encryption system, basically, 835 00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:16,192 that nobody could crack. 836 00:44:17,738 --> 00:44:19,479 Wonderfully clever idea. 837 00:44:19,699 --> 00:44:21,656 And the Inventors Council agreed. 838 00:44:21,868 --> 00:44:23,700 The members of the National Inventors Council... 839 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:28,246 And it was a council of actual engineers 840 00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:30,164 with a major inventor in his own right, 841 00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:31,617 Charles Kettering, 842 00:44:31,836 --> 00:44:34,704 who was struck by the value and the originality 843 00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:37,084 of Hedy and George's idea. 844 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,212 So they helped George and Hedy 845 00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:42,795 by connecting them up with a physicist at Caltech 846 00:44:43,014 --> 00:44:46,132 in California who was an expert on electronics. 847 00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:47,841 And he presumably designed 848 00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,894 the electronics part of this device. 849 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:54,815 The day came when this invention 850 00:44:55,026 --> 00:44:56,358 was issued a full patent. 851 00:45:01,365 --> 00:45:04,073 Hedy and George donated their invention 852 00:45:04,285 --> 00:45:06,823 to the National Inventors Council, 853 00:45:07,038 --> 00:45:08,870 but it was generally understood 854 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:11,448 that if the military used an invention, 855 00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:13,579 the inventors would be paid. 856 00:45:15,838 --> 00:45:18,000 They gave it to the Navy, 857 00:45:18,216 --> 00:45:22,005 and as George Antheil liked to tell the story later, 858 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:24,007 I went in to see the Navy Brass 859 00:45:24,222 --> 00:45:27,010 and they threw the patent on the desk and said, 860 00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:28,261 "What do you want to do, 861 00:45:28,476 --> 00:45:31,014 put a player piano in a torpedo? 862 00:45:31,229 --> 00:45:32,720 Get out of here!" 863 00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,142 And that was that. 864 00:45:35,358 --> 00:45:37,520 Sons of bitches. 865 00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:38,646 Shame. 866 00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:39,942 Shame on them. 867 00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,362 Well, that's why I was in the Army, 868 00:45:42,573 --> 00:45:44,986 because the Navy was never that bright. 869 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:58,245 After the Navy rejected their invention, 870 00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,423 Hedy wanted to continue developing it. 871 00:46:01,634 --> 00:46:04,251 But George, who always had bills to pay, 872 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:07,258 wasn't interested. 873 00:46:07,473 --> 00:46:09,465 I think George was very proud that he had done it, 874 00:46:09,684 --> 00:46:12,176 but I think he just got over it. 875 00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:13,681 I think that for Hedy, 876 00:46:13,896 --> 00:46:17,139 she saw it as perhaps her ticket to be recognized 877 00:46:17,358 --> 00:46:20,226 for the brilliant woman that she was. 878 00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:29,072 And the patent, like all things submitted to the military, 879 00:46:29,287 --> 00:46:32,200 was put in a safe somewhere and labeled Top Secret. 880 00:46:32,415 --> 00:46:34,327 So it disappeared from the world 881 00:46:34,542 --> 00:46:36,283 for the rest of the war. 882 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,966 The Navy basically told her, 883 00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:48,136 "You know, you'd be helping the war a lot more, little lady, 884 00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:50,805 if you got out and sold war bonds 885 00:46:51,017 --> 00:46:52,349 rather than sat around 886 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,394 trying to invent new kinds of torpedoes. 887 00:46:55,604 --> 00:46:57,220 Leave that to the experts. 888 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,683 Get out there and raise money." 889 00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:04,986 You don't get to be Hedy Lamarr and smart. 890 00:47:05,197 --> 00:47:06,062 No. 891 00:47:07,575 --> 00:47:08,361 No. 892 00:47:11,787 --> 00:47:15,121 I worked for the government at the bond tour. 893 00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,074 Really? How? 894 00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:20,206 By appearing, by dancing with these people. 895 00:47:22,423 --> 00:47:24,710 Hedy used to go to the Hollywood Canteen 896 00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:27,167 and entertain the troops. 897 00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,469 Hedy Lamarr hands out autographs. 898 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,673 She was not yet an American citizen 899 00:47:32,892 --> 00:47:37,728 and she was there working on behalf of the United States 900 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:39,895 and its soldiers every night 901 00:47:40,107 --> 00:47:41,564 as often as she could be. 902 00:47:41,776 --> 00:47:44,109 It's a great thing, really. 903 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,985 Hedy sold something like $25 million worth of war bonds, 904 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,238 which if you translate that into modern dollars, 905 00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:57,994 comes out around $343 million worth of war bonds. 906 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,253 To be told to just raise money for the war, 907 00:48:03,464 --> 00:48:04,580 it's unfortunate. 908 00:48:04,799 --> 00:48:07,132 That was the way that people thought that she would do good 909 00:48:07,343 --> 00:48:10,882 in the best way within her realm of capabilities. 910 00:48:11,097 --> 00:48:13,054 F-35, somebody have it? 911 00:48:13,265 --> 00:48:14,005 I've got it! 912 00:48:14,225 --> 00:48:15,215 Go ahead! 913 00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:16,845 Oh no. 914 00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:21,146 Like, go and sell a kiss to a strange man. 915 00:48:21,357 --> 00:48:24,316 Maybe... maybe she would have felt a little bit better 916 00:48:24,527 --> 00:48:27,565 about her accomplishments if she received recognition 917 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:29,772 for her intellect. 918 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:31,231 Oh, you'll get used to it. 919 00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:33,112 I don't want to get used to it. 920 00:48:33,327 --> 00:48:34,192 I have my own life. 921 00:48:34,412 --> 00:48:36,244 My own life! 922 00:48:36,455 --> 00:48:38,071 To add insult to injury, 923 00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:42,751 the U.S. Government seized Hedy's patent in 1942 924 00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:45,079 as the property of an enemy alien. 925 00:48:47,216 --> 00:48:48,878 I don't understand. 926 00:48:49,093 --> 00:48:51,585 They use me for selling bonds, 927 00:48:51,804 --> 00:48:52,965 then I'm not an alien. 928 00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:55,092 And when I invent something for this country 929 00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:57,299 I am an alien? 930 00:49:04,733 --> 00:49:07,897 I am Tandelayo. 931 00:49:08,112 --> 00:49:11,230 After she did the invention, 932 00:49:11,449 --> 00:49:14,066 what did Louis B. Mayer offer Hedy Lamarr? 933 00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:17,573 White Cargo. 934 00:49:23,002 --> 00:49:25,289 We were at war by then and Louis B. Mayer 935 00:49:25,504 --> 00:49:27,416 wanted to entertain the servicemen 936 00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:28,747 who would pay money 937 00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:31,424 to see what was considered a dirty picture. 938 00:49:35,181 --> 00:49:37,093 Louis B. Mayer divided the world 939 00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:39,550 into two kinds of women, 940 00:49:39,768 --> 00:49:41,555 Madonna and whore. 941 00:49:43,689 --> 00:49:45,180 I don't think he ever believed 942 00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:48,142 she was anything but the latter 943 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,023 because of Ecstasy. 944 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:52,570 You better go now. 945 00:49:56,327 --> 00:49:59,195 Audiences ate it up. 946 00:49:59,413 --> 00:50:04,875 This was a woman who had tried to change the course of the war. 947 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:08,123 Now she found herself in a third rate film 948 00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:11,252 as a distraction for the troops. 949 00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:17,261 They think I'm a bad actress. 950 00:50:17,473 --> 00:50:21,092 I think sometimes in life I act more than on the screen. 951 00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:27,389 Hedy really struggled to make her mark in Hollywood. 952 00:50:27,608 --> 00:50:29,565 She knew she wasn't respected 953 00:50:29,777 --> 00:50:32,269 like a Garbo or a Dietrich. 954 00:50:32,488 --> 00:50:37,700 She wanted to have roles that allowed her to do something more 955 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:39,822 and to give her an acting challenge. 956 00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:45,874 So that brought her in some conflict with Louis B. Mayer. 957 00:50:46,085 --> 00:50:47,826 He sued her a couple times. 958 00:50:48,045 --> 00:50:50,128 I mean, he tried to keep her on a very tight leash. 959 00:50:50,339 --> 00:50:52,626 She wouldn't let herself be kept on a tight leash 960 00:50:52,841 --> 00:50:54,207 and there were always problems. 961 00:50:54,426 --> 00:50:57,794 And she got the reputation of being difficult. 962 00:51:04,979 --> 00:51:07,892 I believe that we are controlled by ourselves, 963 00:51:08,107 --> 00:51:09,063 by our way of thinking, 964 00:51:09,275 --> 00:51:11,392 by our way of dealing with people. 965 00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:12,896 I mean, there comes a point 966 00:51:13,112 --> 00:51:14,193 when you can't take anymore... 967 00:51:14,405 --> 00:51:16,692 then you have to make yourself heard. 968 00:51:18,033 --> 00:51:21,071 She needed to be free. 969 00:51:21,287 --> 00:51:25,156 I think she was brave and courageous. 970 00:51:25,374 --> 00:51:27,286 She felt like, "I'm gonna do it for myself. 971 00:51:27,501 --> 00:51:29,208 I'm gonna live the way... 972 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:30,752 I bloody wanna live my own life." 973 00:51:32,131 --> 00:51:33,212 So she said, "Well, you know what? 974 00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:34,460 I'll make my own movie. 975 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,632 I'll produce my own movie." 976 00:51:39,471 --> 00:51:41,963 I don't really recall anybody except Hedy 977 00:51:42,182 --> 00:51:45,175 went out and actually produced a movie. 978 00:51:45,394 --> 00:51:49,183 It was very unusual in 1946. 979 00:51:49,398 --> 00:51:51,014 The system didn't welcome it, 980 00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:53,896 they didn't want movie stars going out of control 981 00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:55,397 and producing their own films. 982 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:57,479 What a terrible idea. 983 00:51:57,698 --> 00:52:00,816 Especially the women. 984 00:52:01,035 --> 00:52:04,153 She was so ahead of her time with being a feminist. 985 00:52:05,956 --> 00:52:09,791 She's never been called that, but she certainly was. 986 00:52:10,002 --> 00:52:11,743 Don't worry about me. 987 00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:13,669 I can handle trouble. 988 00:52:13,881 --> 00:52:15,964 I know you can. 989 00:52:16,175 --> 00:52:19,714 And then she co-produced Dishonored Lady, 990 00:52:19,928 --> 00:52:23,217 and I think that both films were produced very well. 991 00:52:27,603 --> 00:52:30,311 She made Dishonored Lady with my father. 992 00:52:30,522 --> 00:52:32,889 It's the only movie they were in together. 993 00:52:33,108 --> 00:52:35,145 I've always wondered if it were possible for people 994 00:52:35,361 --> 00:52:37,068 like you and me. 995 00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:40,693 This was a time when America was recovering 996 00:52:40,908 --> 00:52:43,025 from World War Il. 997 00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:44,825 And like the rest of the country, 998 00:52:45,037 --> 00:52:47,950 she too wanted a family and a home life. 999 00:52:50,501 --> 00:52:52,083 I was married and married because 1000 00:52:52,294 --> 00:52:56,538 I liked the companionship of a man, obviously. 1001 00:52:56,757 --> 00:52:59,875 I think, you know, he was quite a bit older and British. 1002 00:53:00,094 --> 00:53:02,302 I don't think he was the love of her life. 1003 00:53:02,513 --> 00:53:05,176 I think she had said he was stuffy and boring. 1004 00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:08,259 You know, you're not at all what I imagined. 1005 00:53:08,477 --> 00:53:09,513 No? 1006 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:11,139 No. 1007 00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:14,223 So this is a letter from George Antheil. 1008 00:53:14,441 --> 00:53:16,023 "The last time I saw Hedy, 1009 00:53:16,235 --> 00:53:17,351 she looked paler. 1010 00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:19,276 Something's troubling her. 1011 00:53:19,488 --> 00:53:22,356 John Loder is really and honestly too dull 1012 00:53:22,574 --> 00:53:26,284 for this sparkling and unbelievable diamond." 1013 00:53:26,495 --> 00:53:29,203 And I think he hit the nail on the head with that one. 1014 00:53:30,708 --> 00:53:33,246 She was independent, she was the breadwinner. 1015 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:35,543 She wasn't stuck in a marriage. 1016 00:53:35,754 --> 00:53:37,120 Will you please go? 1017 00:53:37,339 --> 00:53:39,205 Of course I'll go. 1018 00:53:39,425 --> 00:53:42,384 I think he left, I was a toddler and Tony was a baby, 1019 00:53:42,594 --> 00:53:44,381 and I never heard from him. 1020 00:53:47,474 --> 00:53:50,842 She was a single mother in the '40s, 1021 00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:53,098 so she was basically alone. 1022 00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:56,731 When we were little, 1023 00:53:56,942 --> 00:54:01,653 she was the most charming, lovely person I can imagine. 1024 00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:03,696 And so nice and warm and loving, 1025 00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:06,775 and she opened my hands that were held in a ball, 1026 00:54:06,994 --> 00:54:08,735 "Relax, don't go to sleep angry." 1027 00:54:08,954 --> 00:54:11,071 She was just such a great mother. 1028 00:54:11,290 --> 00:54:14,203 I taught my children swimming. 1029 00:54:14,418 --> 00:54:18,128 The little children have little armbands to swim. 1030 00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:19,670 - Have you ever seen that? - Yes. 1031 00:54:19,882 --> 00:54:21,794 Makes absolutely no sense. 1032 00:54:22,009 --> 00:54:24,217 because the middle, the center 1033 00:54:24,428 --> 00:54:26,795 is where they should be lifted. 1034 00:54:27,014 --> 00:54:28,004 Mm-hm. 1035 00:54:28,223 --> 00:54:29,589 That's how I taught my children 1036 00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:31,720 and they swim like fish. 1037 00:54:33,228 --> 00:54:36,221 They really were good as gold. 1038 00:54:37,357 --> 00:54:40,225 I did a good job with them. 1039 00:54:40,444 --> 00:54:42,436 It made me a little tired but that's... 1040 00:54:42,654 --> 00:54:44,236 that's part of it, the job, I guess. 1041 00:54:46,283 --> 00:54:47,774 My mother worked her ass off. 1042 00:54:47,993 --> 00:54:49,109 She had to earn a living. 1043 00:54:49,328 --> 00:54:50,284 She was on her own. 1044 00:54:50,496 --> 00:54:52,237 It was such pressure. 1045 00:54:53,791 --> 00:54:55,874 At least she didn't have to worry about granny. 1046 00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:58,121 By then she'd made it safely to California 1047 00:54:58,337 --> 00:55:00,329 and Mom paid for her to live nearby. 1048 00:55:00,547 --> 00:55:03,585 Financially, Hedy wasn't in the best of shape. 1049 00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:05,212 She had two independent films, 1050 00:55:05,427 --> 00:55:07,259 she made a lousy comedy, 1051 00:55:07,471 --> 00:55:10,885 and she knew she was going in the gutter career-wise. 1052 00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:13,967 She needed a breath of fresh air. 1053 00:55:14,186 --> 00:55:15,768 And just by a stroke of luck, 1054 00:55:15,979 --> 00:55:17,641 her agent at the time mentioned, 1055 00:55:17,856 --> 00:55:21,020 "Well, I was talking to C.B. the other day," 1056 00:55:21,235 --> 00:55:22,396 Cecil B. DeMille, 1057 00:55:22,611 --> 00:55:24,352 great motion picture producer. 1058 00:55:24,571 --> 00:55:27,484 He was just beginning his biblical epics 1059 00:55:27,699 --> 00:55:30,112 of sex and sand. 1060 00:55:30,327 --> 00:55:32,239 And Hedy called Cecil B. DeMille and said, 1061 00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:35,572 "I understand you're casting for a new motion picture. 1062 00:55:35,791 --> 00:55:37,123 I am Delilah." 1063 00:55:38,627 --> 00:55:41,119 No man leaves Delilah. 1064 00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:47,250 Look at her, Samson. 1065 00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:49,085 Look well. 1066 00:55:49,304 --> 00:55:53,344 Satan himself taught her all the arts of deception. 1067 00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:55,471 Howard Hawks had a great line about DeMille. 1068 00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:57,177 He says, "You know, 1069 00:55:57,396 --> 00:55:59,763 DeMille is so bad he's almost good." 1070 00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:05,981 But anyway, Samson and Delilah was a huge hit. 1071 00:56:06,196 --> 00:56:08,028 I think it was her biggest success. 1072 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,698 It thoroughly revived Hedy's name 1073 00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:14,118 into the public consciousness. 1074 00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:17,117 Samson and Delilah was the second highest grossing film 1075 00:56:17,332 --> 00:56:18,789 of the decade. 1076 00:56:19,001 --> 00:56:22,870 Only Gone with the Wind surpassed it. 1077 00:56:23,088 --> 00:56:24,579 Hedy took notice. 1078 00:56:24,798 --> 00:56:26,790 She decided to produce her own epic 1079 00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:29,251 in the style of DeMille. 1080 00:56:29,469 --> 00:56:32,257 She would film it in Italy and title it 1081 00:56:32,472 --> 00:56:34,555 The Loves of Three Queens. 1082 00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:42,100 Hedy played all three lead roles. 1083 00:56:42,316 --> 00:56:43,932 The subject was beauty 1084 00:56:44,151 --> 00:56:45,858 and how it got in the way of love 1085 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:47,810 for the great women of history. 1086 00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:50,317 They're leading you into a trap. 1087 00:56:50,532 --> 00:56:53,070 Oh, Napoleon, you're blind. 1088 00:56:53,285 --> 00:56:55,151 There is no choice. 1089 00:56:55,370 --> 00:56:57,032 It was a huge production. 1090 00:56:57,247 --> 00:56:58,203 She didn't have the training 1091 00:56:58,415 --> 00:57:01,203 to take on a project of this size. 1092 00:57:01,418 --> 00:57:03,125 And when she was finished with it, 1093 00:57:03,337 --> 00:57:07,297 she couldn't find distribution in the United States. 1094 00:57:07,507 --> 00:57:09,669 She spent millions of dollars on it, 1095 00:57:09,885 --> 00:57:11,968 no one would touch it. 1096 00:57:12,179 --> 00:57:13,465 She lost all her money. 1097 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,171 She found herself with nothing. 1098 00:57:16,558 --> 00:57:20,142 I'm a good artist and a very bad business person. 1099 00:57:22,481 --> 00:57:23,722 She's no longer a star 1100 00:57:23,941 --> 00:57:26,228 and she doesn't really have any money. 1101 00:57:28,236 --> 00:57:30,819 She was in Houston for an event 1102 00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:34,320 and she ran into Howard Lee the oil man. 1103 00:57:34,534 --> 00:57:40,280 And then I found out my name was now Tony Lee. 1104 00:57:40,499 --> 00:57:42,240 And we were living in Texas. 1105 00:57:53,428 --> 00:57:57,138 Mom actually had a Texas twang with a Viennese accent. 1106 00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:59,682 It was hilarious. 1107 00:57:59,893 --> 00:58:02,135 He was a nice guy. 1108 00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:06,223 I really kind of felt Texan for a while. 1109 00:58:06,441 --> 00:58:11,687 In Texas, Hedy found herself a trophy wife again. 1110 00:58:11,905 --> 00:58:14,397 You know, Texas was retirement. 1111 00:58:14,616 --> 00:58:17,700 But a creative person needs something to do. 1112 00:58:17,911 --> 00:58:19,948 She didn't have much to do. 1113 00:58:23,792 --> 00:58:26,910 We went on vacation in Aspen, Colorado. 1114 00:58:27,129 --> 00:58:29,212 I used to ski when I was a young girl. 1115 00:58:29,423 --> 00:58:32,166 I skied to school, I skied all over the place. 1116 00:58:34,136 --> 00:58:35,547 And I went through Aspen. 1117 00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,719 There was nobody there. Nothing. 1118 00:58:37,931 --> 00:58:40,093 Just a little store and a few houses. 1119 00:58:40,308 --> 00:58:44,518 And they said, "This could be a very wonderful skiing resort." 1120 00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:47,894 So I started to build a place called Villa Lamarr. 1121 00:58:48,108 --> 00:58:50,225 She wanted to build a ski resort, 1122 00:58:50,444 --> 00:58:53,107 so she convinced Howard to buy some land. 1123 00:58:54,489 --> 00:58:56,856 It was all Austrian, it's beautiful. 1124 00:58:57,075 --> 00:58:59,158 She spent years making that place. 1125 00:59:00,245 --> 00:59:03,158 She created some of her homeland. 1126 00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:05,615 That's why it meant a lot to her. 1127 00:59:05,834 --> 00:59:09,453 She was really, I think, homesick. 1128 00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:13,497 It was after that 1129 00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:17,085 that everything started falling apart. 1130 00:59:17,304 --> 00:59:19,341 Their relationship wasn't good. 1131 00:59:19,556 --> 00:59:23,266 It was pretty traumatic; he was an alcoholic. 1132 00:59:23,477 --> 00:59:25,514 With children it was very difficult so I walked away. 1133 00:59:25,729 --> 00:59:28,972 I said, "All I want is Aspen," which I built myself. 1134 00:59:29,191 --> 00:59:30,682 My chalet there which makes 1135 00:59:30,901 --> 00:59:32,938 a million a day, I suppose, now. 1136 00:59:35,447 --> 00:59:36,608 Hedy told me again and again 1137 00:59:36,823 --> 00:59:39,782 about her divorce with Howard Lee. 1138 00:59:39,993 --> 00:59:42,326 May be the darkest time in her life. 1139 00:59:43,955 --> 00:59:44,866 And then my daughter said, 1140 00:59:45,082 --> 00:59:47,699 "Ma, something happened to Tony." 1141 00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,082 My son was almost killed in a car accident. 1142 00:59:53,465 --> 00:59:56,128 While her son was in the hospital near death, 1143 00:59:56,343 --> 00:59:59,427 Hedy was called to testify in divorce court. 1144 00:59:59,638 --> 01:00:03,097 Stressed and traumatized to the point of breakdown, 1145 01:00:03,308 --> 01:00:05,550 she sent her Hollywood body double 1146 01:00:05,769 --> 01:00:08,227 to testify in her place. 1147 01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:10,976 She infuriated the judge, 1148 01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:13,274 who punished her by cutting her share 1149 01:00:13,485 --> 01:00:15,898 of the divorce settlement. 1150 01:00:16,113 --> 01:00:17,945 He took everything away. 1151 01:00:18,156 --> 01:00:20,489 Aspen, which was beautiful. 1152 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,283 I mean, it was a big shock. 1153 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,782 So with the pressure here and pressure all over 1154 01:00:25,997 --> 01:00:28,330 that's all I needed. So I collapsed. 1155 01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:31,159 I had a nervous breakdown. 1156 01:00:31,378 --> 01:00:33,961 I feel like I was dead for... 1157 01:00:34,172 --> 01:00:36,710 I don't know how long, but I was dead. 1158 01:00:36,925 --> 01:00:41,135 And so much so that this light you see really exists 1159 01:00:41,346 --> 01:00:44,054 on the ceiling. 1160 01:00:44,266 --> 01:00:45,177 I saw my father. 1161 01:00:48,979 --> 01:00:51,141 She said Emil, her father, 1162 01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:52,346 was her greatest love, 1163 01:00:52,566 --> 01:00:54,649 or no one could compare to him. 1164 01:00:54,860 --> 01:00:59,730 Well, he knew her before she was this celebrity. 1165 01:00:59,948 --> 01:01:02,486 And so she felt real love there. 1166 01:01:02,701 --> 01:01:05,034 And I don't know if she felt that again. 1167 01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:09,614 Hedy had two more husbands in her life. 1168 01:01:09,833 --> 01:01:12,667 Neither marriage lasted much more than a year. 1169 01:01:14,504 --> 01:01:17,997 I wish my mother had a husband 1170 01:01:18,216 --> 01:01:19,707 who knew how to love her. 1171 01:01:19,926 --> 01:01:21,007 But she never did. 1172 01:01:24,431 --> 01:01:27,094 When I ended up living with her after Texas, 1173 01:01:27,309 --> 01:01:31,144 it was very, very tricky, very hard. 1174 01:01:33,273 --> 01:01:36,016 I think the drugs were very responsible. 1175 01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:39,147 The slightest thing could... could set her off. 1176 01:01:39,362 --> 01:01:40,944 There was erratic behavior. 1177 01:01:41,156 --> 01:01:44,900 She was becoming more unstable. 1178 01:01:45,118 --> 01:01:48,361 I guess it pretty much started with Jimmy. 1179 01:01:51,249 --> 01:01:54,037 As an adult, I was looking at baby pictures 1180 01:01:54,252 --> 01:01:56,084 and it was my first birthday with my mom... 1181 01:01:56,296 --> 01:01:58,333 and mother and father behind me. 1182 01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:01,416 And in between them, a boy. 1183 01:02:01,635 --> 01:02:03,342 Um, I told Mom, 1184 01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:05,294 "Who's this boy?" 1185 01:02:05,513 --> 01:02:06,924 And she literally said, 1186 01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,224 "Oh, it was an adoption that didn't work out." 1187 01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:13,143 She told me that he was really rebellious 1188 01:02:13,355 --> 01:02:16,223 and was acting out big time. 1189 01:02:16,441 --> 01:02:20,025 And Jimmy was put in a military boarding school. 1190 01:02:20,237 --> 01:02:22,320 So the sports coach 1191 01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:24,772 kind of took Jimmy under his wing, 1192 01:02:24,991 --> 01:02:26,482 coach and the wife, 1193 01:02:26,701 --> 01:02:31,287 and he asked Hedy if he could live with them. 1194 01:02:31,498 --> 01:02:34,912 And Mom was apparently so hurt she said yes. 1195 01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:39,078 And I can't believe that I have no memory of him. 1196 01:02:41,341 --> 01:02:44,175 She's my mother and I love her. 1197 01:02:44,386 --> 01:02:47,845 I called her sometimes and she called me sometimes. 1198 01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:51,136 I never really blamed her for anything, 1199 01:02:51,351 --> 01:02:53,058 I... I just... 1200 01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:56,104 I knew she was upset because I, you know, 1201 01:02:56,314 --> 01:02:58,772 kind of like slapped her in the face. 1202 01:02:58,984 --> 01:03:01,943 Like saying, "I don't love you anymore." 1203 01:03:02,153 --> 01:03:06,147 But still I never saw her after that for 40-some years. 1204 01:03:08,576 --> 01:03:10,738 She was a woman of extremes. 1205 01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:14,871 I mean, Hedy can just leave things behind. 1206 01:03:15,083 --> 01:03:18,121 She cut off Jimmy, she cut off being Jewish. 1207 01:03:18,336 --> 01:03:22,046 She was broken, she was missing pieces of herself. 1208 01:03:25,218 --> 01:03:27,255 A lot of stars from the studio system 1209 01:03:27,470 --> 01:03:33,558 did carry over this addiction to pep pills, speed. 1210 01:03:33,768 --> 01:03:35,930 It does explain, in hindsight, 1211 01:03:36,146 --> 01:03:38,138 a lot of her behavior. 1212 01:03:43,278 --> 01:03:45,565 There are always a great many rumors 1213 01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:50,275 about her connection to the famous Dr. Feelgood. 1214 01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:56,660 Dr. Feelgood was Max Jacobson. 1215 01:03:56,875 --> 01:03:58,366 Look at the Aretha Franklin song, 1216 01:03:58,585 --> 01:04:01,123 "Oh, Dr. Feelgood, please make me feel good." 1217 01:04:01,338 --> 01:04:03,125 Everybody called him Dr. Feelgood 1218 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:06,208 because he made them feel good. 1219 01:04:06,426 --> 01:04:08,213 When Cecil B. DeMille had his heart attack 1220 01:04:08,428 --> 01:04:10,260 on the set of The Ten Commandments, 1221 01:04:10,472 --> 01:04:11,963 he flew Dr. Max over. 1222 01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:13,047 And then DeMille said, 1223 01:04:13,266 --> 01:04:14,131 "Go inject Charlton Heston. 1224 01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:15,307 There's not enough energy. 1225 01:04:15,518 --> 01:04:18,306 His Moses is too lackadaisical." 1226 01:04:19,939 --> 01:04:22,727 Hedy Lamarr became a patient of his 1227 01:04:22,942 --> 01:04:25,400 from the 1950s until Max Jacobson 1228 01:04:25,612 --> 01:04:30,073 lost his medical license in 1974. 1229 01:04:30,283 --> 01:04:33,526 Somebody did me in like many times 1230 01:04:33,745 --> 01:04:36,488 and gave me a shot. I don't know what it was. 1231 01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:39,414 I thought it was vitamins but it wasn't. 1232 01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:41,288 Said, "Oh, you should try these vitamin B shots. 1233 01:04:41,503 --> 01:04:43,165 They give you so much energy." 1234 01:04:44,547 --> 01:04:46,163 What Max Jacobson said 1235 01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:49,751 is they were special vitamin elixirs. 1236 01:04:49,969 --> 01:04:51,551 And he loaded up a vial 1237 01:04:51,763 --> 01:04:54,631 with 40 milligrams of methamphetamine. 1238 01:04:54,849 --> 01:04:56,636 Meth was legal. 1239 01:04:56,851 --> 01:04:58,638 And he gave Hedy a shot. 1240 01:05:01,398 --> 01:05:02,639 And the thing about methamphetamine 1241 01:05:02,857 --> 01:05:04,314 is once you get a couple of shots, 1242 01:05:04,526 --> 01:05:06,688 you're hooked because the brain will demand 1243 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,895 more and more of that reward. 1244 01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:15,026 So she got hooked on these "vitamins." 1245 01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:21,082 And they turned her into a monster. 1246 01:05:21,292 --> 01:05:23,158 I was standing in the kitchen 1247 01:05:23,378 --> 01:05:25,210 and she was holding a fork and she dropped it. 1248 01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:27,960 And all of a sudden she just hauls up and, bam, 1249 01:05:28,174 --> 01:05:30,461 smashes me across the face. 1250 01:05:30,677 --> 01:05:33,636 "Whenever I drop something, you pick it up!" 1251 01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:38,091 You know, she was just out of control. 1252 01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:41,427 Now I can be forgiving for all that erratic behavior 1253 01:05:41,646 --> 01:05:44,389 because in a way she was a victim 1254 01:05:44,607 --> 01:05:47,441 of the very system that made her famous. 1255 01:05:56,703 --> 01:05:58,410 Thank you very much. Howdy-hi, Shindiggers. 1256 01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:01,079 I'm Jimmy O'Neill and tonight it's my great pleasure 1257 01:06:01,291 --> 01:06:04,079 to introduce the beautiful Ms. Hedy Lamarr. 1258 01:06:09,174 --> 01:06:12,838 Of course anyone growing up in Hollywood in the early '60s 1259 01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:15,590 was aware of her as the kind of caricature 1260 01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:18,468 of herself that she had become. 1261 01:06:18,683 --> 01:06:20,140 Lucille Ball, I remember, 1262 01:06:20,351 --> 01:06:24,766 used to do an outrageous takeoff of Tandelayo. 1263 01:06:35,158 --> 01:06:37,241 I am Tandelayo. 1264 01:06:40,246 --> 01:06:42,158 I think it was offensive to her. 1265 01:06:42,373 --> 01:06:43,989 She didn't want to be a joke. 1266 01:06:45,752 --> 01:06:48,540 Mom was not in a good... good way 1267 01:06:48,755 --> 01:06:50,371 when I was away at college. 1268 01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:53,173 I remember one day walking to school at Cal, 1269 01:06:53,384 --> 01:06:54,249 with my books, 1270 01:06:54,469 --> 01:06:55,960 and I walked past a newsstand 1271 01:06:56,179 --> 01:06:58,011 and there's a picture of Mom in jail. 1272 01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:03,516 Mrs. Lamarr was shopping 1273 01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:05,390 at the May Company Department Store 1274 01:07:05,605 --> 01:07:06,937 and evidently was arrested 1275 01:07:07,148 --> 01:07:08,434 by one of the security personnel 1276 01:07:08,650 --> 01:07:10,016 of the store. 1277 01:07:10,235 --> 01:07:11,442 And it was apparent that she had 1278 01:07:11,653 --> 01:07:15,067 something like approximately $14,000 on her, 1279 01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:18,490 but she had still taken about $80 worth of merchandise. 1280 01:07:18,701 --> 01:07:21,239 When you see that on the front page, 1281 01:07:21,454 --> 01:07:23,366 it's like you want to just crawl in a hole. 1282 01:07:25,166 --> 01:07:26,577 The defendant is quoted as saying, 1283 01:07:26,793 --> 01:07:28,455 "I didn't mean to steal anything. 1284 01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:30,377 I'll be glad to pay for the items. 1285 01:07:30,588 --> 01:07:33,046 I have the money." 1286 01:07:33,258 --> 01:07:34,874 She was acquitted for that. 1287 01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:37,176 She said it was a misunderstanding. 1288 01:07:37,387 --> 01:07:39,049 Who knows? 1289 01:07:39,264 --> 01:07:42,177 You know, a lot of people handle stress in different ways. 1290 01:07:44,686 --> 01:07:46,643 It was a shock. 1291 01:07:46,854 --> 01:07:50,063 She was such a big star. 1292 01:07:50,275 --> 01:07:53,063 She seemed so untouchable 1293 01:07:53,278 --> 01:07:54,610 to be reduced to that. 1294 01:07:54,821 --> 01:07:56,687 And I think that most people thought 1295 01:07:56,906 --> 01:07:59,193 it must be a kind of mental illness. 1296 01:07:59,409 --> 01:08:01,446 I want to see the store manager. 1297 01:08:01,661 --> 01:08:02,447 No. 1298 01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:03,948 I want to see the store manager. 1299 01:08:04,163 --> 01:08:05,404 You're not seeing the store manager. 1300 01:08:05,623 --> 01:08:07,489 Andy Warhol's school of filmmaking 1301 01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:12,044 makes a film that is very obviously lampooning her image. 1302 01:08:12,255 --> 01:08:14,588 And she becomes, essentially, a punch line. 1303 01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:18,007 The shoplifting also resulted 1304 01:08:18,219 --> 01:08:20,211 in her inability to play her final role. 1305 01:08:21,514 --> 01:08:22,846 She was signed to do 1306 01:08:23,057 --> 01:08:24,389 Picture Mommy Dead 1307 01:08:24,601 --> 01:08:27,594 and Zsa Zsa Gabor stepped in to replace her. 1308 01:08:27,812 --> 01:08:29,223 They just fired me. 1309 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,146 - Were you shocked? - No. 1310 01:08:31,357 --> 01:08:33,189 I'm not shocked at that, no. 1311 01:08:33,401 --> 01:08:35,188 This is gonna go into your book, I trust. 1312 01:08:35,403 --> 01:08:37,065 Oh, yes, indeed. 1313 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,111 What's the name of that book? 1314 01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:40,986 The longer I wait, the better the book gets. 1315 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,533 Somebody suggested doing her autobiography, 1316 01:08:43,745 --> 01:08:45,236 that she should do it. 1317 01:08:45,455 --> 01:08:47,822 She had no interest in the book itself, 1318 01:08:48,041 --> 01:08:50,533 but she wanted the money from it. 1319 01:08:50,752 --> 01:08:53,995 There really hadn't been any sort of scandalous tell-all. 1320 01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:56,626 She spoke with ghostwriters 1321 01:08:56,841 --> 01:08:58,707 for many, many hours about her past, 1322 01:08:58,926 --> 01:09:00,918 and then they translated her memories 1323 01:09:01,137 --> 01:09:02,298 into a narrative. 1324 01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:04,220 I think her business manager was paid off 1325 01:09:04,432 --> 01:09:07,345 to get all this stuff past her. 1326 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,222 And she didn't want to deal with paperwork, 1327 01:09:09,437 --> 01:09:11,053 so she just trusted him. 1328 01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:15,186 Your book, called Ecstasy and Me... 1329 01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:16,733 Don't talk about that. 1330 01:09:16,944 --> 01:09:18,060 That's not my book. 1331 01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,565 - You wrote it. - No. 1332 01:09:19,781 --> 01:09:22,273 Did that hurt your image in Hollywood? 1333 01:09:22,492 --> 01:09:23,903 I don't know what is an image. 1334 01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:25,905 I mean, what's your image, Woody? 1335 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,486 What's my im... same as yours. 1336 01:09:29,374 --> 01:09:31,741 Okay, now you want me to tell you what your image is? 1337 01:09:31,959 --> 01:09:34,542 - Yeah. - It's a glamorous, 1338 01:09:34,754 --> 01:09:36,837 beautiful, 1339 01:09:37,048 --> 01:09:39,631 internationally known star 1340 01:09:39,842 --> 01:09:42,300 who obviously rides in limousines 1341 01:09:42,512 --> 01:09:43,923 and has great jewels 1342 01:09:44,138 --> 01:09:46,926 and you don't scrub your kitchen floors. 1343 01:09:47,141 --> 01:09:49,474 I don't like that, no, but tell me more. 1344 01:09:49,686 --> 01:09:51,177 I never lived that way. 1345 01:09:51,396 --> 01:09:52,978 Isn't that what it's all about? 1346 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:54,555 No, not to me. 1347 01:09:54,774 --> 01:09:56,140 I guess in the image it is. 1348 01:09:57,527 --> 01:10:01,066 She was known for her glamour and her beauty. 1349 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,691 It was impossible to live up to 1350 01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,523 as she got older. 1351 01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:06,608 She would see that 1352 01:10:06,828 --> 01:10:08,865 and you knew that it disturbed her. 1353 01:10:11,666 --> 01:10:14,374 She started having plastic surgery in her 40s. 1354 01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:18,666 One of her plastic surgeons told me once 1355 01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:21,589 that she was a groundbreaker even in plastic surgery 1356 01:10:21,801 --> 01:10:24,009 where she came up with ideas. 1357 01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:27,258 She said, "My arms are crepey and I want you to cut here 1358 01:10:27,473 --> 01:10:28,805 right in the line of the fold 1359 01:10:29,016 --> 01:10:30,382 and I want you to get rid of the excess skin 1360 01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,058 and leave the scar here. 1361 01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:35,263 Leave the scar on my knee, behind my knee. 1362 01:10:35,481 --> 01:10:37,518 Put the scar behind my ear. 1363 01:10:37,734 --> 01:10:40,647 And they did it and the surgeons said, you know, 1364 01:10:40,862 --> 01:10:42,103 "A lot of these things she did 1365 01:10:42,321 --> 01:10:44,153 we were never doing before." 1366 01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:48,324 You'll mention her to an older plastic surgeon 1367 01:10:48,536 --> 01:10:50,198 and they remember their... 1368 01:10:50,413 --> 01:10:52,245 all their actresses coming in saying, 1369 01:10:52,457 --> 01:10:54,289 "You know, well, Hedy, she had this done. 1370 01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:56,457 Can I get this done too?" 1371 01:10:56,669 --> 01:10:58,535 She was really one of the first women out there saying, 1372 01:10:58,755 --> 01:11:00,041 "Why isn't this possible? 1373 01:11:00,256 --> 01:11:01,463 Why can't we do this?" 1374 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:05,463 She looked wonderful for her age, 1375 01:11:05,678 --> 01:11:07,294 but all of that didn't work 1376 01:11:07,513 --> 01:11:09,675 because people still wanted 1377 01:11:09,891 --> 01:11:12,429 that old image of Hedy Lamarr. 1378 01:11:12,643 --> 01:11:15,181 You know, the only thing that would have... 1379 01:11:15,396 --> 01:11:16,932 that would have solved the problem 1380 01:11:17,148 --> 01:11:19,185 is if she'd died young. 1381 01:11:21,444 --> 01:11:23,231 People were cruel to her. 1382 01:11:23,446 --> 01:11:26,985 People would come up and say, "You were so beautiful." 1383 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,532 The press was mean. 1384 01:11:33,331 --> 01:11:35,163 I said, "Oh, Mom, 1385 01:11:35,374 --> 01:11:40,165 I feel I really have empathy for that pressure on you." 1386 01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:43,838 So no wonder she kind of hid away. 1387 01:11:51,891 --> 01:11:54,349 Do you think you are unsociable? 1388 01:11:54,602 --> 01:11:56,059 Me? No! 1389 01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:57,894 Have I been reserved with you? 1390 01:11:58,105 --> 01:12:02,190 No, I mean are you unsociable here in America? 1391 01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:06,395 I only know that they do not understand me. 1392 01:12:06,614 --> 01:12:10,984 How can you understand a person who 1393 01:12:11,244 --> 01:12:14,703 has had as many phases in life as I have? 1394 01:12:14,914 --> 01:12:17,657 I have been through a lot, my whole life. 1395 01:12:21,671 --> 01:12:23,207 You start to think, 1396 01:12:23,422 --> 01:12:26,961 "I have experienced everything now in life." 1397 01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:29,168 "Now I want peace." 1398 01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:32,471 I miss Vienna. 1399 01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:34,924 I would like to make a movie about it. 1400 01:12:35,142 --> 01:12:36,849 What would the movie look like? 1401 01:12:40,064 --> 01:12:43,899 All of the nice things I have seen when I was a child. 1402 01:12:44,110 --> 01:12:47,103 The opera. 1403 01:12:47,321 --> 01:12:50,655 The Spanish Riding School. 1404 01:12:50,867 --> 01:12:52,608 Schönbrunn Palace. 1405 01:12:52,827 --> 01:12:55,160 My school in Döbling. 1406 01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:58,535 Whatever, I don't know. 1407 01:12:58,749 --> 01:13:01,082 I am always Austrian. 1408 01:13:16,684 --> 01:13:20,769 We met in person two times in my life. 1409 01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:24,269 She would send me autographed pictures of herself, 1410 01:13:24,483 --> 01:13:25,894 you know, 1411 01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:29,899 which they're mostly like those studio prints. 1412 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,107 Even though she says it was a curse, 1413 01:13:34,327 --> 01:13:38,071 that's what people liked and loved about her and she... 1414 01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:41,578 for some reason I think she thought even her family, 1415 01:13:41,792 --> 01:13:45,160 her grandchildren, her children want that. 1416 01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:53,794 She did a lot of sadly not so good plastic surgery 1417 01:13:54,013 --> 01:13:55,629 in her later years, 1418 01:13:55,848 --> 01:14:00,058 each one fixing the flaws of the last. 1419 01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:03,103 And she no longer went out in public. 1420 01:14:06,233 --> 01:14:07,849 And then the money started running out 1421 01:14:08,069 --> 01:14:09,685 because she only got something 1422 01:14:09,904 --> 01:14:11,736 from Screen Actors Guild 1423 01:14:11,948 --> 01:14:14,986 and Social Security. 1424 01:14:15,201 --> 01:14:16,908 All they give me $300. 1425 01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:18,155 Per month? 1426 01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:19,236 Yep. 1427 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,196 That's not much, is it? 1428 01:14:21,415 --> 01:14:23,623 No, it's not very much. 1429 01:14:23,834 --> 01:14:25,746 Have you ever tried to get... uh 1430 01:14:25,962 --> 01:14:27,578 some recompense... for your idea? 1431 01:14:27,797 --> 01:14:28,708 ...the patent? 1432 01:14:28,923 --> 01:14:29,504 No. 1433 01:14:29,715 --> 01:14:34,050 I was surprised that they don't even acknowledge it. 1434 01:14:34,261 --> 01:14:38,881 In 1969, Hedy had written to a friend in the Navy 1435 01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:42,764 asking if he could find out what happened to her patent. 1436 01:14:42,979 --> 01:14:45,972 "Laura Slainier, Washington Patent Office, 1437 01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:48,102 has an invention of mine, 1438 01:14:48,317 --> 01:14:50,058 a missile-guided torpedo. 1439 01:14:50,277 --> 01:14:52,519 Maybe you can get it." 1440 01:14:52,738 --> 01:14:55,776 So this was important to her. 1441 01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:57,824 His reply has been lost, 1442 01:14:58,035 --> 01:15:00,448 but she probably learned that her idea, 1443 01:15:00,663 --> 01:15:02,029 frequency hopping, 1444 01:15:02,248 --> 01:15:06,117 had been put to use in military communications. 1445 01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,669 By the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, 1446 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,463 when President Kennedy sent Navy ships 1447 01:15:12,675 --> 01:15:14,007 to blockade Cuba, 1448 01:15:14,218 --> 01:15:16,210 the ships that were running the blockade 1449 01:15:16,429 --> 01:15:19,672 were all equipped with frequency-hopped radios. 1450 01:15:19,890 --> 01:15:22,052 When she found out that the patent was used, 1451 01:15:22,268 --> 01:15:25,261 she thought, "Hey, I should be making some money from this." 1452 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,017 I mean, isn't that normal to get something? 1453 01:15:28,232 --> 01:15:29,188 Yes, it is. 1454 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,143 Well... apparently they didn't think so. 1455 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:35,149 Well, it has to do with the nature of patent law. 1456 01:15:35,364 --> 01:15:38,027 I think that it wasn't actually used 1457 01:15:38,242 --> 01:15:39,653 during the life of the patent 1458 01:15:39,869 --> 01:15:41,531 and it was only after the patent expired 1459 01:15:41,746 --> 01:15:44,113 that it went into common use. 1460 01:15:44,331 --> 01:15:45,538 I don't think so. 1461 01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:48,083 They used it before! 1462 01:15:48,294 --> 01:15:50,160 For Hedy to be paid, 1463 01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:52,086 the Navy had to use her patent 1464 01:15:52,298 --> 01:15:55,962 before it expired in 1959. 1465 01:15:56,177 --> 01:16:00,672 And there's evidence they did give it to a contractor. 1466 01:16:00,890 --> 01:16:04,383 Romuald Scibor sent me an email. 1467 01:16:04,602 --> 01:16:09,017 And he said, 19... it was about '55, 1468 01:16:09,231 --> 01:16:13,145 he said he was handed that patent. 1469 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,694 And they were tasked to create a sonobuoy. 1470 01:16:18,324 --> 01:16:22,534 A sonobuoy is a floating submarine detection device. 1471 01:16:25,831 --> 01:16:28,869 Someone in the Navy found the patent and thought, 1472 01:16:29,085 --> 01:16:30,576 "Well, I don't know if there's anything here, 1473 01:16:30,795 --> 01:16:32,957 but let's toss it to a contractor." 1474 01:16:33,172 --> 01:16:36,006 And he took that patent and used it 1475 01:16:36,217 --> 01:16:39,085 as the basis for communications 1476 01:16:39,303 --> 01:16:41,465 from the sonobuoy in the water 1477 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,592 to a passing naval airplane 1478 01:16:43,808 --> 01:16:45,424 that would also be secure. 1479 01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:51,472 The inventor of the sonobuoy had a website 1480 01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:52,771 where he paid tribute 1481 01:16:52,983 --> 01:16:56,067 to the Markey-Antheil invention. 1482 01:16:56,278 --> 01:16:57,189 Will you take a look? 1483 01:16:57,404 --> 01:16:58,565 Sure. 1484 01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:00,940 A Tribute to Hedy Lamarr 1485 01:17:01,158 --> 01:17:03,024 by Romuald Scibor-Marchocki. 1486 01:17:03,244 --> 01:17:05,327 No, I haven't seen this. 1487 01:17:05,538 --> 01:17:07,245 "I designed the sonobuoy, 1488 01:17:07,456 --> 01:17:11,826 one of the first deployments of frequency hopping." 1489 01:17:12,044 --> 01:17:15,253 And he goes on to write about surveillance drones 1490 01:17:15,464 --> 01:17:17,296 at Aerojet-General. 1491 01:17:17,508 --> 01:17:22,424 "I was the systems manager building the surveillance drone 1492 01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:25,130 which eventually flew over Vietnam. 1493 01:17:28,477 --> 01:17:31,811 I personally designed the reliable and secure 1494 01:17:32,022 --> 01:17:34,730 two-way radio communications system. 1495 01:17:34,942 --> 01:17:36,228 For the first time, 1496 01:17:36,443 --> 01:17:40,778 we had the ability to switch frequencies rapidly. 1497 01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:43,949 Now that I know who invented frequency hopping, 1498 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,868 I, who was the only person who remembers 1499 01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:50,447 those early applications of this concept, 1500 01:17:50,666 --> 01:17:55,001 want to express my sincere admiration 1501 01:17:55,212 --> 01:17:58,171 and belated thanks to Hedy Lamarr." 1502 01:18:04,138 --> 01:18:06,130 How 'bout them apples? 1503 01:18:07,349 --> 01:18:09,136 She should have gotten paid. 1504 01:18:20,529 --> 01:18:23,522 What would you have the government do to repay you? 1505 01:18:23,741 --> 01:18:26,905 At this point I don't even care. 1506 01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:32,497 There she is. 1507 01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:34,620 The Tyrolean beauty. 1508 01:18:45,221 --> 01:18:46,928 Toward the end of Hedy's life 1509 01:18:47,139 --> 01:18:49,973 she began to reflect. 1510 01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:51,891 She began to have insight. 1511 01:18:56,857 --> 01:18:59,395 Well, things don't always work... straight forward. 1512 01:18:59,610 --> 01:19:01,772 They have detours sometimes. 1513 01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:03,148 That's part of living. 1514 01:19:03,364 --> 01:19:04,605 Yep. 1515 01:19:04,823 --> 01:19:08,533 I didn't expect that I'd come here and fall apart either 1516 01:19:08,744 --> 01:19:10,531 but things happen. 1517 01:19:12,665 --> 01:19:15,783 She always talked about writing her autobiography 1518 01:19:16,001 --> 01:19:18,038 and wanting to get the story out 1519 01:19:18,254 --> 01:19:19,870 about who the real Hedy Lamarr was, 1520 01:19:20,089 --> 01:19:21,546 not the Hedy Lamarr in the movies, 1521 01:19:21,757 --> 01:19:23,214 which I think she often thought 1522 01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:25,667 movies were really trivial. 1523 01:19:25,886 --> 01:19:29,425 Now I'm becoming smart all of a sudden. 1524 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,222 Better late than never, right? 1525 01:19:31,433 --> 01:19:32,093 Absolutely. 1526 01:19:32,309 --> 01:19:33,971 Maybe someday I'll become smart too. 1527 01:19:34,186 --> 01:19:36,178 I gave you a little lesson there right now. 1528 01:19:36,397 --> 01:19:37,057 Yes ma'am. 1529 01:19:38,565 --> 01:19:39,772 I guess I should let you... 1530 01:19:39,984 --> 01:19:40,565 I guess you should. 1531 01:19:40,776 --> 01:19:42,017 ...let you go, but... 1532 01:19:42,236 --> 01:19:42,817 I enjoyed talking. 1533 01:19:43,028 --> 01:19:44,519 I enjoyed talking to you and perhaps I'll... 1534 01:19:44,738 --> 01:19:46,229 Maybe you can do some good. 1535 01:19:46,448 --> 01:19:47,655 I hope so. 1536 01:19:49,326 --> 01:19:51,158 The article I wrote, 1537 01:19:51,370 --> 01:19:53,077 I like to think that that was really a part 1538 01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:56,077 of how she gained recognition. 1539 01:19:57,751 --> 01:19:59,037 So Forbes magazine, 1540 01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:00,289 May 1990, 1541 01:20:00,504 --> 01:20:03,918 this is the first time the mainstream press 1542 01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:07,672 released the information that Hedy was glamorous, yes, 1543 01:20:07,886 --> 01:20:08,842 stupid, no. 1544 01:20:10,431 --> 01:20:13,674 I called her and said, you know, "Mom, people are interested 1545 01:20:13,892 --> 01:20:18,102 in what you thought of back in '42." 1546 01:20:18,314 --> 01:20:20,180 She said, "It's about time." 1547 01:20:23,277 --> 01:20:25,143 The first to pick up Hedy's story 1548 01:20:25,362 --> 01:20:28,196 were people in the communications industry 1549 01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:30,490 because they realized frequency hopping 1550 01:20:30,701 --> 01:20:32,237 was revolutionary. 1551 01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:37,197 It was already finding its way into GPS, 1552 01:20:37,416 --> 01:20:40,159 Wi-Fi technology, Bluetooth, 1553 01:20:40,377 --> 01:20:43,961 and billion-dollar military satellites. 1554 01:20:44,173 --> 01:20:46,916 Five, four, three, 1555 01:20:47,134 --> 01:20:48,295 Atlas engine ignition, 1556 01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:49,751 one, zero, 1557 01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:52,053 and liftoff of Lockheed Martin... 1558 01:20:52,264 --> 01:20:55,052 The Milstar satellite system provides 1559 01:20:55,267 --> 01:20:57,600 protected, secure communications 1560 01:20:57,811 --> 01:20:59,222 for the President of the United States 1561 01:20:59,438 --> 01:21:02,181 and high priority military users. 1562 01:21:02,399 --> 01:21:05,233 The work that Hedy Lamarr did in her patent, 1563 01:21:05,444 --> 01:21:07,310 Milstar took that technology 1564 01:21:07,529 --> 01:21:08,895 in order to implement frequency hopping 1565 01:21:09,114 --> 01:21:10,070 on the system. 1566 01:21:10,282 --> 01:21:12,194 And that's what we trust our most important 1567 01:21:12,409 --> 01:21:16,153 nuclear command and control messages with. 1568 01:21:16,372 --> 01:21:18,989 The Navy, Milstar, and Lockheed Martin 1569 01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:20,369 actually gave Hedy an award 1570 01:21:20,584 --> 01:21:23,167 thanking her for coming up with her idea. 1571 01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:25,169 And when I called her, I said, 1572 01:21:25,381 --> 01:21:28,124 "Mom, they're gonna give you an award," 1573 01:21:28,342 --> 01:21:31,335 but she just didn't want to be seen. 1574 01:21:31,553 --> 01:21:34,216 The award I'm about to present is in recognition 1575 01:21:34,431 --> 01:21:36,969 of a famous actress turned inventor, 1576 01:21:37,184 --> 01:21:38,971 Hedy Lamarr. 1577 01:21:40,562 --> 01:21:43,430 I gave a talk to about 800 people. 1578 01:21:43,649 --> 01:21:44,981 But right in the middle of it... 1579 01:21:45,192 --> 01:21:45,978 If I have seen farther... 1580 01:21:47,277 --> 01:21:48,484 Oh, my God. 1581 01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:52,105 Are you serious? 1582 01:21:53,951 --> 01:21:54,907 My mother's here too. 1583 01:21:55,119 --> 01:21:56,485 I'll tell you a little bit later. 1584 01:21:56,703 --> 01:21:58,319 Hello? 1585 01:21:58,539 --> 01:21:59,495 How did it go? 1586 01:21:59,706 --> 01:22:01,072 I'm in the middle of it. 1587 01:22:11,093 --> 01:22:13,301 I just said, "Mom, if you could say something, 1588 01:22:13,512 --> 01:22:15,094 what would you say?" 1589 01:22:15,305 --> 01:22:17,262 And this is what she said. 1590 01:22:20,811 --> 01:22:25,055 I'm happy that this invention has been so successful. 1591 01:22:25,274 --> 01:22:28,233 I appreciate your acknowledgement 1592 01:22:28,444 --> 01:22:31,061 of you honoring me 1593 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,897 and that it was not done in vain. 1594 01:22:34,116 --> 01:22:35,482 Thank you. 1595 01:22:35,701 --> 01:22:36,361 Perfect. 1596 01:22:36,577 --> 01:22:37,909 - Okay? - Okay. 1597 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:38,735 I love you! 1598 01:22:38,954 --> 01:22:39,614 Love you too. 1599 01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:40,866 Bye. 1600 01:22:47,546 --> 01:22:49,708 And they all stood up and clapped. 1601 01:22:49,923 --> 01:22:51,380 I thought it was really great. 1602 01:22:52,885 --> 01:22:55,298 She would love to be remembered 1603 01:22:55,512 --> 01:22:56,878 as someone who contributed 1604 01:22:57,097 --> 01:23:00,306 to the well-being of humankind. 1605 01:23:00,517 --> 01:23:03,760 She did make her mark. 1606 01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:07,768 It's the one thing she did for other people 1607 01:23:07,983 --> 01:23:11,192 that she's gonna be long, long remembered for. 1608 01:23:15,908 --> 01:23:17,115 It was New Year's, 1609 01:23:17,326 --> 01:23:19,739 January 1st, 2000. 1610 01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:22,616 She called my sister and I separately, 1611 01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:24,117 "Turn on the TV! 1612 01:23:24,333 --> 01:23:25,369 It's Vienna, Vienna! 1613 01:23:25,584 --> 01:23:26,870 You'll see Vienna!" 1614 01:23:29,171 --> 01:23:30,207 And so we turn on the TV 1615 01:23:30,422 --> 01:23:32,084 and the Viennese Symphony Orchestra 1616 01:23:32,299 --> 01:23:34,165 was playing on TV. 1617 01:23:40,891 --> 01:23:42,382 She died a few days later. 1618 01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:46,227 She fell asleep and she just didn't wake up. 1619 01:23:53,237 --> 01:23:56,025 I'll read you something pretty. 1620 01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,452 People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. 1621 01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:05,372 Love them anyway. 1622 01:24:05,582 --> 01:24:07,995 If you do good, people will accuse you 1623 01:24:08,210 --> 01:24:11,374 of selfish alternative motives. 1624 01:24:11,588 --> 01:24:12,999 Do good anyway. 1625 01:24:16,385 --> 01:24:19,173 The biggest people with the biggest ideas 1626 01:24:19,388 --> 01:24:20,720 can be shot down 1627 01:24:20,931 --> 01:24:24,424 by the smallest people with the smallest minds. 1628 01:24:24,643 --> 01:24:26,760 Think big anyway. 1629 01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:31,685 What you spend years building 1630 01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:34,643 may be destroyed overnight. 1631 01:24:34,861 --> 01:24:37,399 Build anyway. 1632 01:24:37,614 --> 01:24:39,571 Give the world the best you have 1633 01:24:39,783 --> 01:24:42,821 and you'll be kicked into the teeth. 1634 01:24:43,036 --> 01:24:45,995 Give the world the best you've got anyway. 124961

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