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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:51,468 As president of the board of supervisors... 2 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:54,054 it's my duty to make this announcement. 3 00:00:54,513 --> 00:00:59,267 Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk... 4 00:00:59,352 --> 00:01:01,519 have been shot and killed. 5 00:01:01,604 --> 00:01:03,772 No! Jesus Christ! 6 00:01:03,856 --> 00:01:06,775 The... 7 00:01:06,859 --> 00:01:08,860 - Hold it! - Hold it! 8 00:01:09,904 --> 00:01:12,739 - Shh! - Quiet! 9 00:01:12,823 --> 00:01:15,492 Quiet, everybody! 10 00:01:15,576 --> 00:01:19,246 The suspect is Supervisor Dan White. 11 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:26,002 On November 27, 1978... 12 00:01:26,087 --> 00:01:28,630 San Francisco's Mayor George Moscone... 13 00:01:28,714 --> 00:01:30,840 and Supervisor Harvey Milk... 14 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:32,968 were assassinated in City Hall. 15 00:01:34,345 --> 00:01:38,974 Harvey Milk had served only 11 months on San Francisco's Board of Supervisors... 16 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:43,770 but he had already come to represent something far greater than his office. 17 00:01:44,772 --> 00:01:46,856 A year before he was gunned down... 18 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:49,442 Harvey Milk tape-recorded a will. 19 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:51,945 This is to be played only in the event... 20 00:01:52,029 --> 00:01:54,614 of my death by assassination. 21 00:01:55,116 --> 00:01:57,284 I fully realize that... 22 00:01:57,368 --> 00:02:01,705 a person who stands for what I stand for... 23 00:02:01,789 --> 00:02:04,541 an activist, gay activist... 24 00:02:04,625 --> 00:02:06,835 becomes the target or the potential target... 25 00:02:06,919 --> 00:02:11,756 for somebody who is insecure, terrified, afraid... 26 00:02:11,841 --> 00:02:14,801 or very disturbed themselves. 27 00:02:16,137 --> 00:02:21,057 Knowing that I could be assassinated at any moment or any time... 28 00:02:21,142 --> 00:02:25,270 I feel it's important that some people know my thoughts. 29 00:02:25,354 --> 00:02:28,523 I stood for more than just a candidate. 30 00:02:28,607 --> 00:02:31,234 I have never considered myself a candidate. 31 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:33,570 I have always considered myself... 32 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:37,407 part of a movement, part of a candidacy. 33 00:02:37,491 --> 00:02:40,452 I wish I had time to explain everything I did. 34 00:02:40,536 --> 00:02:45,457 Almost everything was done in the eyes of the gay movement. 35 00:03:19,450 --> 00:03:24,162 I met Harvey like most people met Harvey, I think... in his camera store. 36 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:30,085 Um, I'd been living in the city about a year and a half, I guess, and... 37 00:03:30,378 --> 00:03:33,296 maybe not even that long... and went into the camera store... 38 00:03:33,381 --> 00:03:36,257 someone recommended it... to have my film developed... 39 00:03:36,342 --> 00:03:39,511 and was greeted by this raving maniac. 40 00:03:39,595 --> 00:03:42,972 He was screaming and... I don't even know what the issue was... 41 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:46,101 but he was screaming and shouting at someone in the camera store... 42 00:03:46,185 --> 00:03:49,145 and I... I was a little intimidated, you know. 43 00:03:49,230 --> 00:03:52,607 I thought, "This guy is a little too weird for me." 44 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:57,946 When I really got to know him was in '75. 45 00:03:58,030 --> 00:03:59,781 I had a miscarriage... 46 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:03,743 and I was astounded that... that I'd had... 47 00:04:03,828 --> 00:04:07,497 '75 or '76 I had a miscarriage, and I was astounded. 48 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:10,417 I mean, it's a... it's a devastating physical experience... 49 00:04:10,501 --> 00:04:12,961 as well as a mental experience. 50 00:04:13,045 --> 00:04:15,964 And I was home from the hospital, and, uh... 51 00:04:16,048 --> 00:04:19,342 Harvey had heard that this had happened. 52 00:04:19,427 --> 00:04:22,470 And lo and behold, there was a knock at the door... 53 00:04:22,555 --> 00:04:26,182 and I went sort of like floating to the door... 54 00:04:26,267 --> 00:04:28,268 'cause I wasn't feeling well at all... 55 00:04:28,352 --> 00:04:31,020 and he was standing on my doorstep... 56 00:04:31,105 --> 00:04:33,398 with a dozen roses... 57 00:04:33,482 --> 00:04:35,608 and he said, "Can I get you anything? 58 00:04:35,693 --> 00:04:37,819 Do you have enough food in the house? Do you have milk? 59 00:04:37,903 --> 00:04:40,488 Do you have food? I'll do your grocery shopping." 60 00:04:40,573 --> 00:04:43,783 And I knew him by name, as he knew me... 61 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:47,120 but I didn't know him well enough to have him do my grocery shopping. 62 00:04:47,204 --> 00:04:49,205 But that's the kind of concern he was. 63 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:52,000 You know, you could relate to Harvey on many levels. 64 00:04:52,084 --> 00:04:54,711 One level was his sense of humor, which I liked, you know. 65 00:04:54,795 --> 00:04:57,881 And you know, making fun of things that sometimes were very heavy... 66 00:04:57,965 --> 00:04:59,924 which was how I was brought up. 67 00:05:00,009 --> 00:05:03,303 But also I didn't feel like an outsider with Harvey. 68 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:05,597 I felt like someone of worth, you know... 69 00:05:05,681 --> 00:05:08,475 and, uh, some respect... the teacher thing. 70 00:05:08,559 --> 00:05:11,144 And if I was in fact feminine, or if I was in fact, you know... 71 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:13,938 didn't always speak in a certain syntax, or if I said, you know... 72 00:05:14,023 --> 00:05:16,608 "Fuck that asshole over there. He's really a jerk"... 73 00:05:16,692 --> 00:05:19,652 Harvey didn't go, "You know, this is not a good gay image." 74 00:05:19,737 --> 00:05:21,988 So that meant a lot... the human factor. 75 00:05:25,201 --> 00:05:27,368 At first, Harvey Bernard Milk... 76 00:05:27,453 --> 00:05:29,996 showed few signs he would make history. 77 00:05:44,345 --> 00:05:46,930 Born May 22, 1930... 78 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:50,141 the second son of middle-class Jewish parents... 79 00:05:50,226 --> 00:05:52,685 he grew up in Woodmere, Long Island. 80 00:05:54,271 --> 00:05:56,940 The little kid with the big ears became, in high school... 81 00:05:57,024 --> 00:06:01,402 an ordinary student, a practical joker, and a regular guy. 82 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:05,323 Or so his friends thought. 83 00:06:16,293 --> 00:06:18,836 After college he joined the navy. 84 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,383 Then he began a career as a stock analyst on Wall Street. 85 00:06:24,426 --> 00:06:26,511 What was not on the resume... 86 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:28,596 was his homosexuality... 87 00:06:28,681 --> 00:06:31,849 which Harvey Milk had known about since he was 14. 88 00:06:33,227 --> 00:06:36,563 In the 1960s, Harvey Milk took a step off course. 89 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:42,318 He befriended avant-garde theater people... 90 00:06:42,403 --> 00:06:45,863 then worked his way into a producing job on Broadway. 91 00:06:46,198 --> 00:06:48,241 By the beginning of the '70s... 92 00:06:48,325 --> 00:06:50,994 Harvey Milk had marched in antiwar demonstrations... 93 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:53,454 burned his BankAmericard in protest... 94 00:06:53,539 --> 00:06:55,832 and emigrated to San Francisco. 95 00:07:00,421 --> 00:07:02,922 He and lover Scott Smith settled down... 96 00:07:03,007 --> 00:07:06,342 and opened a camera store on Castro Street... 97 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:10,930 in a quiet old neighborhood soon to become known as "the Castro." 98 00:07:11,682 --> 00:07:14,976 Harvey Milk threw himself into neighborhood politics. 99 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:20,440 When he dubbed himself "the Mayor of Castro Street," the idea stuck. 100 00:07:23,068 --> 00:07:26,070 In 1973 he tried to make it official... 101 00:07:26,155 --> 00:07:30,700 by running for the board of supervisors, San Francisco's city council. 102 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:39,417 To many, Harvey Milk seemed more like a joke than a candidate. 103 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:46,215 Well, first time I heard of Harvey... 104 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:52,055 was uh... one of these, uh... conventions at the Labor Council... 105 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:55,892 and, uh, we're voting on who we're going to support. 106 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,436 And our union... We get together with other union delegates... 107 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,482 and talk over who we're gonna support, and, uh... 108 00:08:02,566 --> 00:08:06,402 we supported a guy that I didn't know at that time: Harvey Milk. 109 00:08:06,487 --> 00:08:11,032 And, uh, we're talkin' with the people, and, uh... 110 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:13,743 somebody said, "He's... He's gay." 111 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:17,455 And I thought, "Holy Christ! How are we gonna go back to our union... 112 00:08:17,539 --> 00:08:21,793 and go back to where we work and tell guys that we supported a fruit?" 113 00:08:22,878 --> 00:08:25,505 And I thought, "My God, this is... 114 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:27,757 What's labor comin' to?" you know? 115 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:31,260 And then we found out that, uh... 116 00:08:31,345 --> 00:08:36,307 he got Coors Beer out of all of the gay bars in San Francisco. 117 00:08:36,392 --> 00:08:39,060 And this Coors Beer boycott... 118 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:42,730 which labor's been trying to do throughout the United States... 119 00:08:42,815 --> 00:08:45,066 especially in San Francisco, a labor town... 120 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:49,320 uh, really hadn't been too successful. 121 00:08:49,405 --> 00:08:51,447 You know, I met Harvey for the first time... 122 00:08:51,532 --> 00:08:54,075 I mean, I had read about him and had heard a lot about him... 123 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,202 but that was the first time I really met him. 124 00:08:56,286 --> 00:09:00,123 And it was a rather strange meeting, because... 125 00:09:00,207 --> 00:09:03,584 Harvey was talking about all these visionary things... 126 00:09:03,669 --> 00:09:07,922 about, you know, the oneness of man, and, um... 127 00:09:08,006 --> 00:09:12,176 thinking about all the great things that needed to be done... 128 00:09:12,261 --> 00:09:16,139 not only in San Francisco, but throughout the country. 129 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:18,307 And I said to myself... 130 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:20,518 "Gee, this man is never going to make it." 131 00:09:21,186 --> 00:09:24,981 Between 1973 and 1976... 132 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:27,984 Harvey Milk ran for political office... 133 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:31,195 and lost three times. 134 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,449 But in each race he garnered more and more votes... 135 00:09:34,533 --> 00:09:37,744 enough to establish himself as a broker for his neighborhood... 136 00:09:37,828 --> 00:09:40,246 and the growing gay community. 137 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:44,667 In 1975, neighborhood activists like Harvey Milk... 138 00:09:44,752 --> 00:09:48,796 found a strong supporter in their new mayor, George Moscone. 139 00:09:48,881 --> 00:09:51,632 Moscone had campaigned on the conviction... 140 00:09:51,717 --> 00:09:55,052 that a city is enriched by more than downtown development. 141 00:09:55,137 --> 00:09:57,972 ...to make our city work once again. 142 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:00,141 As the new mayor, Moscone showed respect... 143 00:10:00,225 --> 00:10:03,561 for his city's many neighborhoods, cultures, and peoples. 144 00:10:03,645 --> 00:10:06,355 My late father was a guard at San Quentin... 145 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,193 and who I was visiting one day and who showed to me... 146 00:10:10,277 --> 00:10:14,113 and then explained the function of the, the death chamber. 147 00:10:14,490 --> 00:10:18,701 And it just seemed inconceivable to me, though I was pretty young at the time... 148 00:10:18,786 --> 00:10:22,288 that in this society that I had been trained to believe... 149 00:10:22,372 --> 00:10:26,209 was the most effective and efficient of all societies... 150 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:29,128 that the only way we could deal with violent crime... 151 00:10:29,213 --> 00:10:31,214 would be to do the ultimate ourselves... 152 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:34,842 and that's to governmentally sanction the taking of another person's life. 153 00:10:35,761 --> 00:10:38,888 Moscone and his allies, including Harvey Milk... 154 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:40,932 set about designing a plan... 155 00:10:41,016 --> 00:10:43,684 for neighborhood people to run the city they lived in. 156 00:10:43,769 --> 00:10:46,229 The plan, called "district elections"... 157 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:50,107 would allow candidates for supervisor, such as Harvey Milk... 158 00:10:50,192 --> 00:10:54,862 to run from districts rather than the city at large. 159 00:10:54,947 --> 00:10:58,407 They had this crazy idea that they're gonna change the form of government... 160 00:10:58,492 --> 00:11:01,160 the way we elect our, uh, officials in this town. 161 00:11:01,245 --> 00:11:03,287 There was one meeting, it was supposed to be... 162 00:11:03,372 --> 00:11:05,456 behind this guy Harvey Milk's camera store. 163 00:11:05,541 --> 00:11:07,583 And so I went to the meeting, and I kinda thought... 164 00:11:07,668 --> 00:11:10,127 "What the hell am I doin' here with all these fruits and kooks?" 165 00:11:10,212 --> 00:11:13,297 Behind the camera store... a little crummy camera store. 166 00:11:13,382 --> 00:11:15,424 It was nothing like Brooks. 167 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:19,095 It was a little crummy camera store, and in the back was this little crummy room... 168 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:21,222 with a bunch of worn-out old sofas and chairs... 169 00:11:21,306 --> 00:11:24,892 and a bunch of people in jeans and Levi's, and, uh... 170 00:11:24,977 --> 00:11:28,312 Harvey Milk was there, and, uh, he's not... 171 00:11:28,397 --> 00:11:30,773 He doesn't dress in a distinguished manner. 172 00:11:30,858 --> 00:11:33,818 He's, uh... Just looks like any workin' stiff. 173 00:11:33,902 --> 00:11:36,320 But the way he handled the people there... 174 00:11:36,405 --> 00:11:38,447 Some of the people get kind of emotional... 175 00:11:38,532 --> 00:11:41,367 and, uh... outrageous... 176 00:11:41,451 --> 00:11:44,704 and he would control 'em and calm 'em down... 177 00:11:44,788 --> 00:11:47,874 and get the thinkin' going a certain way, and, uh... 178 00:11:47,958 --> 00:11:50,001 It was very, very impressive. 179 00:11:50,711 --> 00:11:52,879 The voters of San Francisco decided... 180 00:11:52,963 --> 00:11:56,132 to give the district elections plan a try. 181 00:11:56,216 --> 00:12:00,052 In the Castro, a new kind of politics was taking shape. 182 00:12:02,681 --> 00:12:06,517 More and more men and women were arriving in San Francisco every day... 183 00:12:06,602 --> 00:12:08,603 to take up the gay life. 184 00:12:08,687 --> 00:12:10,855 The Castro was booming. 185 00:12:17,738 --> 00:12:21,616 Each summer, Harvey Milk helped organize the Castro Street Fair... 186 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:24,785 where the neighborhood celebrated its very existence. 187 00:12:26,163 --> 00:12:30,499 When we're out there dancing on the floor, darlin' 188 00:12:30,584 --> 00:12:33,502 And I feel like I need some more 189 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:37,048 And I feel your body close to mine 190 00:12:37,132 --> 00:12:40,593 And I know, my love it's about that time 191 00:12:40,677 --> 00:12:44,180 Make me feel mighty real 192 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:48,100 Make me feel mighty real 193 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:52,480 You make me feel 194 00:12:52,564 --> 00:12:55,608 Mighty real 195 00:12:56,777 --> 00:12:58,945 You make me feel 196 00:13:00,155 --> 00:13:03,366 Mighty real 197 00:13:03,617 --> 00:13:06,994 When we get home, darling and it's nice and dark 198 00:13:07,079 --> 00:13:09,121 And the music's spinning 199 00:13:09,206 --> 00:13:11,248 Harvey Milk realized that the Castro... 200 00:13:11,333 --> 00:13:15,211 was ready to elect its own representative to city hall. 201 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:19,757 In 1977, Milk launched his fourth political campaign... 202 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:22,551 this time for the board of supervisors... 203 00:13:22,636 --> 00:13:25,930 from the newly created District 5. 204 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:30,226 Oh, you make me feel 205 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:33,187 Mighty real 206 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:36,232 You make me feel 207 00:13:36,316 --> 00:13:39,527 There's just too many candidates, the vote is split all over the place... 208 00:13:39,611 --> 00:13:42,697 and there's too many things happening nobody knows about. 209 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:45,282 There are at least seven candidates with a shot at capturing... 210 00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:47,535 the heart of the city, District No. 5. 211 00:13:47,619 --> 00:13:52,373 The liberal vote is split between three main candidates and many lesser ones. 212 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:54,500 One main is Terence Hallinan... 213 00:13:54,584 --> 00:13:57,253 an attorney with endorsements from Democrats and labor. 214 00:13:57,337 --> 00:13:59,922 Hallinan splits the liberal vote with two gays: 215 00:14:00,007 --> 00:14:01,882 lawyer Rick Stokes... 216 00:14:01,967 --> 00:14:04,218 and Castro Street businessman Harvey Milk. 217 00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:07,596 I think when it comes to a matter of who came first, that's fairly easily provable. 218 00:14:07,681 --> 00:14:11,267 I don't think anyone ever heard of Harvey Milk until he ran for office in 1973. 219 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:14,937 Any single neighborhood issue or city issue for the last five years... 220 00:14:15,022 --> 00:14:18,315 you found Harvey Milk taking a stand... one way or the other, but taking a stand. 221 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,818 Every candidate claims to know of polls... 222 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,945 showing him the winner or running strong... 223 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:27,616 but the one candidate who seems to run best of all has very low visibility. 224 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:29,952 That's the one named "undecided." 225 00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:34,040 In San Francisco, Linda Schacht for Channel 5 Eyewitness News. 226 00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:39,003 When he decided to run for supervisor, he did call me... 227 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:41,380 and I went in to meet with him... 228 00:14:41,465 --> 00:14:44,258 and we just hit it off instantly. 229 00:14:44,342 --> 00:14:48,179 That very first day, he asked me if I would run his campaign. 230 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:50,306 I was 23. 231 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:53,476 Here's this punk kid who knows nothing about campaigns... 232 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,686 except that I loved them. 233 00:14:56,772 --> 00:15:00,024 What he offered me was an opportunity. 234 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:02,151 He had no money. 235 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:05,237 But he was a very difficult person to work with. 236 00:15:05,322 --> 00:15:08,574 He did have temper fits... 237 00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:12,328 where he would just be like a little kid sometimes... 238 00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:15,664 for no good reason except that he was probably exhausted. 239 00:15:15,749 --> 00:15:18,334 Getting involved in that campaign was so special... 240 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:21,420 especially after the number of campaigns that I had been through... 241 00:15:21,505 --> 00:15:23,547 with the Democratic Party... 242 00:15:23,632 --> 00:15:27,343 and the normal type of politicians and the normal kind of campaigns. 243 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:30,137 That campaign was anything but normal! 244 00:15:31,681 --> 00:15:34,934 One day I was in there in the campaign headquarters... 245 00:15:35,018 --> 00:15:37,186 and I'm looking around at this motley group of people. 246 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,814 It was a lot of fun, but give me a break! 247 00:15:39,898 --> 00:15:42,858 And I said to Harvey, I said, "Well, who's that?" 248 00:15:42,943 --> 00:15:45,027 And there's this desk over in the corner. It's really dark. 249 00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:48,197 I don't think there's a plug back in that corner. There's a telephone. 250 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:50,866 I remember seeing the lights on the telephone... 251 00:15:50,951 --> 00:15:54,203 was like the brightest thing in that corner. 252 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,330 And he says, "She's really good. 253 00:15:56,414 --> 00:15:58,874 Her name is Anne Kronenberg. She's really good." 254 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:02,211 And I'm looking at her and thinking, "Oh, my Lord! Your image!" 255 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:05,840 Here he's trying to run, you know, in a very big district. 256 00:16:05,924 --> 00:16:10,010 He'd run in our neighborhood, and anything goes in our neighborhood. 257 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:15,182 But when you get out, you know, you kind of have to kind of blend in. 258 00:16:15,267 --> 00:16:18,018 And I looked at Anne, and here she was, you know... 259 00:16:18,103 --> 00:16:21,730 like a big dyke, with the motorcycle clothes on. 260 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,816 And then there's John with his three-piece suit... 261 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,901 and there's little Mike... Michael Wong... 262 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:27,945 who Harvey always called his lotus blossom... 263 00:16:28,029 --> 00:16:31,407 and a couple of old ladies that would be in there too, bless their hearts. 264 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:33,367 And then people silk-screening on the side... 265 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:36,162 and you could smell the ink and, you know, all this hubbub. 266 00:16:36,246 --> 00:16:38,330 And he's trying to run a business in the front. 267 00:16:38,415 --> 00:16:42,960 Everything happened in this long, dingy camera store... 268 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:47,548 everything from "save the whales" to "get elected." 269 00:16:53,138 --> 00:16:55,181 We had volunteers... 270 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:57,683 in all different shapes and sizes... 271 00:16:57,767 --> 00:16:59,810 from Medora Payne-size... 272 00:16:59,895 --> 00:17:02,438 up to 70-year-old women who wanted to be doing something. 273 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:06,650 Maybe they couldn't be walking precincts, but they wanted to do something for Harvey. 274 00:17:06,735 --> 00:17:09,195 It was a nice mix of people. 275 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:17,703 He never stopped, and he did most of everything himself... 276 00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:20,456 which meant, you know, every day he was out on the street... 277 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,292 to hit the morning rush hour and the afternoon rush hour. 278 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:27,671 He'd walk precincts. He'd go to shops, you know, door-to-door. 279 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:41,310 At the age of 47, on his fourth try for public office... 280 00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:46,357 Harvey Milk was elected to San Francisco's Board of Supervisors. 281 00:17:49,486 --> 00:17:52,154 When Harvey got back to the campaign headquarters that night... 282 00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:54,281 people went crazy. 283 00:17:54,366 --> 00:17:58,827 He rode up on his... Not his motorcycle, my motorcycle. 284 00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:01,705 They all got off the bikes then... 285 00:18:01,790 --> 00:18:04,291 and Harvey was just encircled with people. 286 00:18:04,376 --> 00:18:08,087 I mean, the feeling there was just one of such total joy. 287 00:18:08,171 --> 00:18:11,757 And it was more than just, you know, a candidate winning. 288 00:18:11,841 --> 00:18:16,845 It was the fact that all of these lesbians and gay men throughout San Francisco... 289 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:19,723 who had felt like they'd had no voice before... 290 00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:22,518 now had someone who represented them. 291 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,062 You just feel so good for Milk... 292 00:18:25,146 --> 00:18:28,274 but feeling good for Milk, you were feeling good for yourself. 293 00:18:28,358 --> 00:18:31,819 You know, this was elation. Just absolute elation. 294 00:18:31,903 --> 00:18:34,071 Harvey never ever drank... 295 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:36,865 but that night the champagne was flowing freely... 296 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:39,827 and he picked up one bottle and poured it all over himself. 297 00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:41,787 It was incredible. 298 00:18:41,871 --> 00:18:44,039 We can hear it. We can't really see too much... 299 00:18:44,124 --> 00:18:47,543 but it looks and sounds to you and to me like New Year's Eve... 300 00:18:47,627 --> 00:18:50,045 on Market Street, a place called Alfie's. 301 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:52,172 And the reason for all this merriment... 302 00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,300 and gaiety, if you'll pardon the pun... 303 00:18:54,384 --> 00:18:56,135 is the man standing to my right... 304 00:18:56,219 --> 00:18:58,804 the first gay supervisor elected in San Francisco. 305 00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:00,931 His name is Harvey Milk. 306 00:19:01,016 --> 00:19:03,058 First of all, congratulations... 307 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:04,810 and I've never seen anything like this, Harvey. 308 00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:06,937 Oh, it's all over the city tonight. 309 00:19:07,022 --> 00:19:09,189 What does this mean, your election, your activity now... 310 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,317 on the board of supervisors in San Francisco? 311 00:19:11,401 --> 00:19:13,652 Does that mean, as many straights are concerned... 312 00:19:13,737 --> 00:19:15,946 that maybe the gays are taking over San Francisco? 313 00:19:16,031 --> 00:19:18,198 Are you going to be a supervisor for all the people? 314 00:19:18,283 --> 00:19:20,284 I have to be. That's what I was elected for. 315 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:22,745 I have to be there to open up for the dialogue... 316 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:25,581 for the sensitivities of all people, with all their problems. 317 00:19:25,665 --> 00:19:28,375 The problems that affect this city affect all of us. 318 00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:31,795 It was really a "monumentous" occasion. 319 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,924 You know, he had been waiting at that point for four years for that victory... 320 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:38,177 and I think it was very sweet for all of us. 321 00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:40,304 Thank you, San Francisco. 322 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:42,389 All right! 323 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:52,066 I first met Harvey Milk when I was sent to do a story... 324 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:54,777 on this guy out in the Castro who had a camera store... 325 00:19:54,861 --> 00:19:56,904 who was running for supervisor... 326 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:59,031 and he was getting a lot of attention... 327 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:01,325 so I had to go out there and do an interview with him. 328 00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:04,161 And I thought, "Oh, brother. A guy who owns a camera store? 329 00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:08,374 What could he know about politics or anything?" 330 00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:11,210 I knew he was going to be a dud. 331 00:20:11,294 --> 00:20:14,546 But I got out there, and he was full of life. 332 00:20:14,631 --> 00:20:16,673 He was a great speaker. 333 00:20:16,758 --> 00:20:20,552 And I was impressed on the spot, and it made a good story. 334 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:25,766 It's as if he knew. "You came here with an attitude that I was just... 335 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:29,436 a homosexual with a camera store, and I'll show you!" 336 00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:31,855 And I thought he did, you know. 337 00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:35,734 He was much more impressive than just that kind of image. 338 00:20:35,819 --> 00:20:38,487 This will be the first time in many years that we've seen... 339 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:42,574 so many relatively new faces on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. 340 00:20:42,659 --> 00:20:45,494 And this is probably because it's the first time in a long time... 341 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:49,331 that supervisors have been elected by district instead of citywide. 342 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:51,667 Harvey Milk, a homosexual... 343 00:20:51,751 --> 00:20:55,421 the first avowed women's rights advocate, Carol Ruth Silver... 344 00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:58,632 the first Chinese-American, attorney Gordon Lau... 345 00:20:58,716 --> 00:21:01,510 the first black woman, Ella Hill Hutch... 346 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:05,681 and Dan White, a city fireman who gave up his job to take his seat. 347 00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:08,976 After the formal swearing-in ceremony, the board elected... 348 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:11,687 Dianne Feinstein to be its new president. 349 00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:15,357 In a 6-to-5 vote, Feinstein beat out Gordon Lau. 350 00:21:15,442 --> 00:21:19,069 But then we got the first taste of the new politics. 351 00:21:19,154 --> 00:21:23,615 Someone suggested the board vote again to make it unanimous for Feinstein... 352 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,742 but newcomers Milk and Silver refused. 353 00:21:25,827 --> 00:21:29,371 They stuck to their votes for Lau, to cheers from their supporters. 354 00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:33,375 And just about everyone at City Hall today was agreeing on one thing: 355 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:37,421 They may be a lot of things, but they probably won't be dull. 356 00:21:38,465 --> 00:21:41,425 It was interesting to see that Harvey... 357 00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:44,761 did not vote for Dianne Feinstein to be president... 358 00:21:44,846 --> 00:21:48,307 and it really shocked many of us in the audience, because... 359 00:21:48,391 --> 00:21:52,269 We said, "Wow! Here was this gay supervisor... 360 00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:54,563 who really didn't have to do it... 361 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,232 and maybe even might be committing political suicide... 362 00:21:57,317 --> 00:22:01,069 and yet he was standing up for what he believed... 363 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:04,323 and making a very strong statement." 364 00:22:05,408 --> 00:22:10,078 And it was clear what Harvey Milk represented on that board. 365 00:22:10,163 --> 00:22:12,164 He represented change. He was different. 366 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:16,668 He was different from the conservative majority on the board of supervisors. 367 00:22:16,753 --> 00:22:18,754 Lost in the hubbub... 368 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:22,591 over the rise of California's first publicly gay official... 369 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:24,927 was the election of Dan White... 370 00:22:25,011 --> 00:22:28,347 another kind of neighborhood populist. 371 00:22:28,431 --> 00:22:32,017 Dan White has worked and lived virtually all his 31 years... 372 00:22:32,101 --> 00:22:34,811 in this southeastern section of San Francisco. 373 00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:37,439 The neighborhood problems are the city's problems. 374 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:39,816 You see, the transportation, the crime... 375 00:22:39,901 --> 00:22:41,944 the education, the taxes... 376 00:22:42,028 --> 00:22:47,241 these are problems that we're all gonna have to, uh, solve. 377 00:22:47,325 --> 00:22:49,284 Hello, Anne. Come on out here and... 378 00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:51,453 - Come out and say hello! - No, I don't want to... 379 00:22:51,538 --> 00:22:55,332 Dan White comes across as the kind of son almost any mother would be proud of. 380 00:22:57,544 --> 00:23:00,128 Anne was one of my big, big supporters here. 381 00:23:00,213 --> 00:23:03,423 A lot of the ladies here are getting their hair done. 382 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:05,551 Clean-cut, respectful to his elders... 383 00:23:05,635 --> 00:23:08,136 and seemingly possessed of small-town values. 384 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:10,639 When was the last time you heard a San Francisco politician... 385 00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:13,684 talk about setting up neighborhood athletic teams? 386 00:23:13,768 --> 00:23:16,061 And then, when we get the best team... 387 00:23:16,145 --> 00:23:18,855 we will challenge, say, Harvey Milk's district to a game of softball... 388 00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,983 where they have champs out there. 389 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:23,151 In a sense you could say it's old-fashioned... 390 00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:25,195 but it's old-fashioned values that built this country. 391 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,907 To me, this is what society's all about. 392 00:23:28,992 --> 00:23:31,618 If you see someone in trouble, you go to help 'em out. 393 00:23:31,703 --> 00:23:36,748 Dan White says nobody's gonna ignore his corner of the city anymore. 394 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:39,543 Dan White and Harvey Milk... 395 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:42,838 became symbols of the new district election system. 396 00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:46,133 Dan White, a fireman and native San Franciscan... 397 00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:50,304 Harvey Milk, a small businessman and a gay immigrant. 398 00:23:50,388 --> 00:23:54,141 Milk's victory sparked euphoria among his supporters... 399 00:23:54,225 --> 00:23:59,021 and a sense of something new arriving at City Hall. 400 00:24:00,481 --> 00:24:03,650 He wanted to meet Carter, and he thought that was very important. 401 00:24:03,735 --> 00:24:05,777 And I think he even brought a photographer along... 402 00:24:05,862 --> 00:24:08,947 even though Carter didn't want to be photographed with a gay person. 403 00:24:11,159 --> 00:24:14,369 And Ruth Carter Stapleton was... 404 00:24:14,454 --> 00:24:17,205 you know, the evangel... evangelical sister... 405 00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:19,583 was carrying on a mission on gays. 406 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:22,753 She told Harvey that she could convert him... 407 00:24:22,837 --> 00:24:26,590 and that, even though he was Jewish, if he gave himself to Jesus Christ... 408 00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:29,676 that his homosexuality would disappear or something. 409 00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:32,387 And he made a couple of very wry comments... 410 00:24:32,472 --> 00:24:34,514 and one of them was that... 411 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:38,060 I think they shook hands, and he said, "I'm surprised you shook my hand." 412 00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:39,936 And she said, "Why?" 413 00:24:40,021 --> 00:24:42,731 And he said, "Because you never know where my hand's been." 414 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:45,901 Isn't that awful? Well, she just looked at him. 415 00:24:45,985 --> 00:24:49,571 She was just starstruck. I mean, what could she say? 416 00:24:49,656 --> 00:24:52,908 Before Harvey was elected, I can remember... 417 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:56,870 looking at City Hall and feeling like that was not my place. 418 00:24:56,954 --> 00:24:59,039 I didn't belong there. I wasn't welcome there. 419 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:01,833 I didn't feel comfortable there. 420 00:25:01,918 --> 00:25:03,960 And the people on the board of supervisors... 421 00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:06,088 were names you read about in the newspaper... 422 00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:08,298 not people you would expect to see in the grocery store... 423 00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:13,011 or much less have a conversation with on a personal or a human level. 424 00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:15,806 And Harvey was really a part of changing all that. 425 00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:17,432 We're interviewing Harvey Milk. 426 00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:21,812 What's it like being a so-called in-person... 427 00:25:21,896 --> 00:25:25,482 as opposed to having been an out-person for years? 428 00:25:25,566 --> 00:25:27,943 - Being one of them? - Yes. 429 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,987 Um... incredible. 430 00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:33,323 The, uh, establishment... 431 00:25:33,408 --> 00:25:39,037 the white power establishment, non-gay, very wealthy establishment... 432 00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:41,415 have to deal with me. 433 00:25:41,499 --> 00:25:43,667 It's an incredible position. 434 00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:47,879 - Excuse me. Cut! - Careful. 435 00:25:47,964 --> 00:25:50,215 I have a slight cold. 436 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:58,390 - Take two. Wanna repeat that, please? - Okay, sure. 437 00:25:58,683 --> 00:26:01,435 Go. 438 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:03,729 In San Francisco, as in anyplace else... 439 00:26:03,813 --> 00:26:05,856 you have the blacks and browns fighting... 440 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,358 and you have the Filipinos not talking to the Asians... 441 00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:10,527 and they all hate the gays, and so forth. 442 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:13,029 And that has existed, and we've had... 443 00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:15,699 We over the years have fought for the crumb. 444 00:26:15,783 --> 00:26:18,326 But I think because of the election, district elections... 445 00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:21,621 and this particular board, and myself, uh... 446 00:26:21,706 --> 00:26:23,957 we're overcoming a lot of those problems. 447 00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,334 There's tremendous harmony developing. 448 00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:28,462 It's not perfect, by any means. 449 00:26:28,546 --> 00:26:30,630 On the citywide level, I think it's vital... 450 00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:32,758 that the minorities... 451 00:26:32,842 --> 00:26:35,302 the traditional, ethnic minorities... 452 00:26:35,386 --> 00:26:40,348 and the gays and the feminists link together. 453 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,559 And possibly the rank-and-file union... 454 00:26:42,643 --> 00:26:44,853 not the union leaders, the rank-and-file... 455 00:26:44,937 --> 00:26:49,775 link together to form a very solid, strong coalition... 456 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:54,237 so that we can influence the total direction of the city. 457 00:26:54,322 --> 00:26:57,574 As supervisor, Harvey Milk had the political skills... 458 00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:01,077 to advance the issues that neighborhood people cared about: 459 00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:04,790 rent control, limiting high-rise development... 460 00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:08,460 public transportation, and the rights of senior citizens. 461 00:27:08,544 --> 00:27:11,713 And the biggest crime in this city is the fact... 462 00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:14,382 that there's some government elected officials... 463 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:16,968 who don't care about senior citizens. 464 00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:19,095 And I got news for them: 465 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:23,475 They're gonna grow old to be a senior citizen themselves or drop dead. 466 00:27:24,435 --> 00:27:26,478 Maybe I like Harvey because almost everything... 467 00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:29,773 Anytime he'd make a speech about anything, I agreed with him. 468 00:27:29,857 --> 00:27:31,900 So then I thought he was a great man... 469 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,152 because I agreed with what he talked about. 470 00:27:34,237 --> 00:27:36,988 But you could hear where he was coming from. 471 00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:39,825 He was coming from people positions. 472 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:41,952 If it had to do with parks... 473 00:27:42,036 --> 00:27:45,831 or it had to do with schools, or it had to do with police protection... 474 00:27:45,915 --> 00:27:50,961 anything that affected the little people. 475 00:27:51,045 --> 00:27:53,839 He wasn't only for gay rights. 476 00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:57,592 He was for gay rights because that was... that is a minority. 477 00:27:57,677 --> 00:27:59,886 But there's other minorities. 478 00:27:59,971 --> 00:28:02,222 There's handicapped people. There's senior citizens. 479 00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,933 And so, uh, there's more and more. 480 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:09,229 You start listening to him and getting involved with him... 481 00:28:09,313 --> 00:28:12,816 'cause, gee, this is the kind of guy that is gonna talk about you. 482 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,653 Harvey said that if anyone solved... 483 00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,780 the dog shit problem in this city... 484 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:20,949 that they could be elected mayor. 485 00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:23,869 And so he started, in the first month of being in City Hall... 486 00:28:23,953 --> 00:28:27,581 to come up with some kind of ordinance to take care of dog shit. 487 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:30,917 And he knew that the pooper-scooper ordinance... 488 00:28:31,002 --> 00:28:33,837 along with a few other things, would really give him good press. 489 00:28:33,921 --> 00:28:36,798 He was a master at figuring out... 490 00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:39,718 what would get him covered in the newspaper. 491 00:28:39,802 --> 00:28:43,805 And so the day of his press conference for the pooper-scooper ordinance... 492 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:48,226 he went out early and planted some shit on the lawn... 493 00:28:48,311 --> 00:28:50,395 so that after his press conference he knew... 494 00:28:50,479 --> 00:28:53,315 just where he was gonna stand that he would step in it. 495 00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:55,817 Supervisor Milk took to the grassy lawn... 496 00:28:55,902 --> 00:28:58,695 at Duboce Park this afternoon to publicize the new law. 497 00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:02,073 Under the ordinance, dog lovers who don't clean up can be fined. 498 00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:05,118 I think what needs to happen is what happened in New York: 499 00:29:05,202 --> 00:29:08,413 that people use their own ingenuity, their own ideas, their own concepts. 500 00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:10,540 Some people are using their pie tins... 501 00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:13,126 some people are using The Wall Street Journal... 502 00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:16,212 and other people are using doggie-doo's and shovels. 503 00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,506 Milk put his foot down to emphasize that the city... 504 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:21,343 intends to enforce, and you guessed it... 505 00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:25,055 In Supervisor Milk's words, "This really is the bottom line." 506 00:29:25,139 --> 00:29:29,309 Harvey Milk's stand on which voting machine... 507 00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:33,271 the city should purchase was a critical role. 508 00:29:33,356 --> 00:29:37,150 At that time, George Moscone favored Votomatic... 509 00:29:37,234 --> 00:29:40,362 and Harvey really was quite vocal. 510 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:43,198 And he said the city should go with Votomatic... 511 00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:45,909 because non-English-speaking citizens... 512 00:29:45,993 --> 00:29:49,871 particularly those who are elderly, who have experienced discrimination... 513 00:29:49,956 --> 00:29:53,833 can exercise their right to vote in the most accessible manner. 514 00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:57,420 He locked heads with Quentin Kopp... 515 00:29:57,505 --> 00:30:00,465 and Dianne Feinstein over the issue. 516 00:30:00,549 --> 00:30:02,968 And I was tremendously impressed... 517 00:30:03,052 --> 00:30:06,304 because Harvey never once called us and said... 518 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:10,433 "Is this the right machine for the Chinese community?" 519 00:30:10,518 --> 00:30:12,769 He knew that it was the right machine... 520 00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:15,021 and he didn't have to call any one of us and say... 521 00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:18,984 "Gee, I want to remind you folks that I'm doing you this great favor... 522 00:30:19,068 --> 00:30:21,069 and I want you to be indebted to me." 523 00:30:21,237 --> 00:30:23,863 The issue closest to Harvey Milk's heart... 524 00:30:23,948 --> 00:30:26,408 was a gay rights bill for San Francisco. 525 00:30:26,492 --> 00:30:30,912 With the gay rights ordinance in San Francisco, the main focus is... 526 00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:36,126 is to prevent the people who are already employed who are gay... 527 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:39,129 who, if they want to come out and break down the stereotypes... 528 00:30:39,213 --> 00:30:41,214 prevents them from being fired. 529 00:30:41,298 --> 00:30:44,718 For example, you will see in this Gay Day parade... 530 00:30:44,802 --> 00:30:48,096 a group of at least 30 gay doctors. 531 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,932 That is the tip of the iceberg. 532 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:54,269 In the Bay Area, there are hundreds and hundreds of gay doctors... 533 00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:57,897 most of who are closeted because of fear of loss of jobs. 534 00:30:57,982 --> 00:31:01,192 In San Francisco, they can "come out"... 535 00:31:01,277 --> 00:31:03,278 and not have to worry about their jobs. 536 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:05,613 And that's the main focus of our ordinance. 537 00:31:05,698 --> 00:31:08,742 Supervisor White says people are getting angry... 538 00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:11,286 and he believes that anger could lead to a backlash... 539 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:14,873 that will wipe out all of the gains the gays have made thus far. 540 00:31:14,957 --> 00:31:17,292 You can have someone that's a transvestite... 541 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,732 a man that for his sexual, um, kicks or 542 00:31:19,733 --> 00:31:22,088 orientation, whatever you want to call it... 543 00:31:22,173 --> 00:31:24,257 loves to dress up as a woman. 544 00:31:24,341 --> 00:31:27,969 If he is a qualified teacher, he can go into any school... 545 00:31:28,054 --> 00:31:31,014 or he can go into any business, and they can't refuse him. 546 00:31:32,141 --> 00:31:35,935 Ten supervisors voted for the gay rights bill. 547 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:39,189 Dan White cast the only dissenting vote. 548 00:31:39,273 --> 00:31:43,902 Mayor Moscone enthusiastically signed the bill into law. 549 00:31:45,154 --> 00:31:48,156 We got lots of hate mail... 550 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,618 and it started out that the hate mail really upset me. 551 00:31:51,702 --> 00:31:54,329 Again, I just was not prepared for that at all. 552 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:57,874 I mean, people saying awful, awful things. 553 00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:02,045 Just nasty, disgusting things. 554 00:32:02,129 --> 00:32:04,172 And it was Gay Freedom Day... 555 00:32:04,256 --> 00:32:07,467 and I was driving the car in the parade, and Harvey was in it. 556 00:32:07,551 --> 00:32:11,763 I was terrified. I was afraid someone was going to take a shot at him. 557 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:16,726 And Harvey said, "It could happen any day, at any place, at any time... 558 00:32:16,811 --> 00:32:18,812 and I'm just not going to worry about it." 559 00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:29,781 Right on! 560 00:32:42,795 --> 00:32:45,463 The statement that the Gay Day parade is... 561 00:32:45,548 --> 00:32:47,674 "No more. No more will we be harassed. 562 00:32:47,758 --> 00:32:49,843 No more will we stay in our closet." 563 00:32:49,927 --> 00:32:52,554 The people from all over the state and all over the country... 564 00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:54,597 for them to see 100,000... 565 00:32:54,682 --> 00:32:56,891 to 400,000 gay people and friends... 566 00:32:56,976 --> 00:32:58,601 marching through the downtown area... 567 00:32:58,686 --> 00:33:03,022 this is our city too... they will go back to Des Moines, Iowa... 568 00:33:03,107 --> 00:33:05,150 to Richmond, Minnesota, to Santa Cruz. 569 00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:07,443 They will go back and say, "My God... 570 00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:09,779 300,000 gay people and their friends marching! 571 00:33:09,864 --> 00:33:12,991 You know, I almost think I saw my son there." 572 00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:26,254 Come on out! 573 00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:30,175 Just come on out. 574 00:33:35,306 --> 00:33:37,265 What did you see that you felt was obscene? 575 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:41,019 Well, I see naked men walking around, naked women walking around... 576 00:33:41,103 --> 00:33:43,188 which, uh, doesn't bother me... 577 00:33:43,272 --> 00:33:46,316 as far as my personal standards of nudity or what... 578 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,401 but it's not proper. 579 00:33:48,485 --> 00:33:51,988 Many people do not approve of outward displays of sexuality... 580 00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:54,616 be it heterosexuality or homosexuality. 581 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,910 And this is a point I stand firm on. 582 00:33:56,994 --> 00:33:59,287 And I think the gay community themselves... 583 00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:02,415 would find hard to refute the statements I'm making now. 584 00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:06,169 And this is a problem. We wouldn't allow it for any other parade in San Francisco... 585 00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,254 and it should not be allowed for the gay parade. 586 00:34:08,339 --> 00:34:11,382 They want to bring their sin out of the closet... 587 00:34:11,467 --> 00:34:13,468 and parade it on the street... 588 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:17,722 and be called respectable, decent, natural people. 589 00:34:17,806 --> 00:34:20,391 It's not decent... 590 00:34:20,476 --> 00:34:22,352 it's not respectable, and it's not natural. 591 00:34:22,436 --> 00:34:25,313 And by the way, God doesn't make people that way. 592 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:27,690 Don't blame God for that. 593 00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:31,319 Who wants the children? I'll tell you who wants your children. 594 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:33,947 - The homosexual crowd wants them. - That's right. 595 00:34:35,908 --> 00:34:38,743 In 1977 and '78... 596 00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:42,872 gay rights measures were being repealed across the United States. 597 00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:48,002 In California, lawmaker John Briggs took a further step. 598 00:34:48,087 --> 00:34:50,338 Every homosexual, every lesbian... 599 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:52,548 Briggs mounted a campaign... 600 00:34:52,633 --> 00:34:55,385 for Proposition 6, a statewide measure... 601 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:58,179 to deny homosexuals their jobs in public schools. 602 00:34:58,264 --> 00:35:02,100 Now, what Proposition 6 is really all about... 603 00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:06,562 is the right of parents to determine... 604 00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:09,315 who will be teaching their children. 605 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,528 We don't allow people who believe in practicing bestiality... 606 00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:15,571 to teach our children. 607 00:35:15,656 --> 00:35:18,658 We don't let prostitutes teach our children. 608 00:35:18,742 --> 00:35:22,453 And the reason we don't is because it's illegal to be a prostitute. 609 00:35:22,538 --> 00:35:25,707 But it's not illegal to be a homosexual in California. 610 00:35:25,791 --> 00:35:29,168 Proposition 6 brought the issue of homosexuality... 611 00:35:29,253 --> 00:35:32,255 into the homes of millions of Californians... 612 00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:36,342 and it thrust Harvey Milk into a statewide spotlight. 613 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:41,014 There are already laws on the books to protect our children. 614 00:35:41,098 --> 00:35:44,976 Everybody from Superintendent of Schools Wilson Riles... 615 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:49,564 to Jerry Brown to newspaper editors across the state agree... 616 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,525 that indeed we have the laws to protect our children. 617 00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:56,029 I was born of heterosexual parents, I was taught... 618 00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,197 by heterosexual teachers... 619 00:35:58,282 --> 00:36:00,450 in a fiercely heterosexual society... 620 00:36:00,534 --> 00:36:04,245 with television ads and newspaper ads... fiercely heterosexual. 621 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:07,749 A society that puts down homosexuality. 622 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:12,128 And why am I homosexual if I'm affected by role models? 623 00:36:12,212 --> 00:36:14,589 I should have been a heterosexual. 624 00:36:14,673 --> 00:36:16,674 And no offense meant... 625 00:36:16,759 --> 00:36:19,635 but if teachers are going to affect you as role models... 626 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,889 there'd be a lot of nuns running around the streets today. 627 00:36:25,267 --> 00:36:27,435 Harvey knew that he had to have... 628 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,354 or that the gay community had to have... 629 00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:31,856 some kind of a repository for money... 630 00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:35,443 so that groups that were fighting the Briggs Initiative would have the... 631 00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:38,905 you know, could get funds to do the things that they had to do. 632 00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:41,199 And I ended being his cochair... 633 00:36:41,283 --> 00:36:44,827 of the United Fund to Fight the Briggs Initiative. 634 00:36:44,912 --> 00:36:48,331 And that began our association, which over those months... 635 00:36:48,415 --> 00:36:52,668 when Proposition 6 came into being, became a real close association. 636 00:36:52,753 --> 00:36:57,131 And I got to know him on a level that I had never anticipated. 637 00:36:57,216 --> 00:36:59,884 Nobody took Harvey Milk very seriously... 638 00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:04,055 when he first ran for the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1973... 639 00:37:04,139 --> 00:37:06,849 but last year Milk won election to the board of supervisors... 640 00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:10,812 where he's the first openly gay city official in the United States. 641 00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:14,315 And representing the Bay Area Committee Against the Briggs Initiative... 642 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,027 is Sally Gearheart... a lesbian, a former high school teacher... 643 00:37:18,112 --> 00:37:21,489 and now a speech professor at San Francisco State University. 644 00:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,991 I remember that just before that debate... 645 00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:27,954 we had had a lot of talk, Harvey and I, about how we would dress... 646 00:37:28,038 --> 00:37:32,750 and we had agreed that the image to project was sort of "Mama and Papa U.S.A.": 647 00:37:32,835 --> 00:37:35,294 as neat and conservative as we possibly could. 648 00:37:35,379 --> 00:37:38,798 So a half hour before we start to leave for the television station... 649 00:37:38,882 --> 00:37:41,300 Harvey calls me and says... 650 00:37:41,385 --> 00:37:43,928 "I've lost my earrings, dear! Whatever shall I do?" 651 00:37:44,012 --> 00:37:47,140 Right? And I freak out, thinking, "Oh, my soul!" 652 00:37:47,224 --> 00:37:50,852 You yourself say that the heterosexual is the child molester. 653 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:54,230 And if in your statements here, and all these newspapers, and tonight... 654 00:37:54,314 --> 00:37:57,900 that child molestation is not an issue, if it is not an issue... 655 00:37:57,985 --> 00:38:00,903 why do you put out literature that hammers it home? 656 00:38:00,988 --> 00:38:03,156 Why do you play on that myth and fear? 657 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,617 Same thing with V.D., Harvey. We put out publications about V.D... 658 00:38:06,702 --> 00:38:08,953 - so you can avoid it. - This is campaign literature. 659 00:38:09,037 --> 00:38:11,622 Yes. We're trying to keep people from falling into that trap. 660 00:38:11,707 --> 00:38:13,541 We're trying to prevent it by pointing it out. 661 00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:17,044 And I don't make the statement that 95% of all the heterosexuals commit... 662 00:38:17,129 --> 00:38:19,046 - What percent is it? - I don't know. You tell me. 663 00:38:19,131 --> 00:38:21,132 The state says 90-95%. 664 00:38:21,216 --> 00:38:24,385 I've never seen that in writing. I don't make those statements... you do. 665 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:29,307 - You even say here... - We are not talking about child molestation. 666 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:32,518 The fact is, at least 95% of the people are heterosexual. 667 00:38:32,603 --> 00:38:35,855 If we took heterosexuals out and homosexuals out, you know what? 668 00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,065 We'd have no teachers. No child molestation. 669 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,151 So you're saying that the percentage of population... 670 00:38:40,235 --> 00:38:43,779 is equal to the percentage of child molestation. Then there's no difference. 671 00:38:43,864 --> 00:38:45,865 - No, I'm not saying that at all. - That's what you just said. 672 00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:48,743 No, I was saying we cannot prevent child molestation... 673 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,828 so let's cut our odds down and take out... 674 00:38:50,913 --> 00:38:54,207 the homosexual group and keep in the heterosexual group. 675 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,710 Why take out the homosexual group when it's more, you know... 676 00:38:57,794 --> 00:39:00,463 Overwhelmingly it is true, that it's the heterosexual men... 677 00:39:00,547 --> 00:39:02,548 I might add, who are the child molesters. 678 00:39:02,633 --> 00:39:04,592 I believe that's a myth. I've never seen... 679 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:07,053 Oh, Senator! 680 00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:10,223 The FBI, the National Council on Family Relations... 681 00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:14,602 the Santa Clara County Child Sexual Abuse Treatment Center, and on and on and on... 682 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:18,606 Sometimes I think what we were faced with in Proposition 6... 683 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,526 was not so much a conflict of values... 684 00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:24,445 as two sets of fears. 685 00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:27,615 The incredible fears that the gay community had, all of us... 686 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,617 that here we were, being stomped on... 687 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:31,744 by what was turning out to be the Moral Majority. 688 00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:34,580 I mean, our very lives were being, you know, threatened... 689 00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:36,624 the ways that we live, what our lifestyle is... 690 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:40,503 and our reaction was extreme, and it should have been extreme. 691 00:39:40,587 --> 00:39:43,214 But then when you get into the other person's shoes... 692 00:39:43,298 --> 00:39:47,176 you figure that there was a lot of fear on the part of the fundamentalists as well. 693 00:39:47,261 --> 00:39:49,929 I mean, when you've lived your entire life... 694 00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:52,557 believing in a certain social structure... 695 00:39:52,641 --> 00:39:54,642 believing in certain sex roles... 696 00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,812 believing in the ways that men and women should relate to each other... 697 00:39:57,896 --> 00:40:00,273 believing in the family... 698 00:40:00,357 --> 00:40:02,233 you know, believing in what God... 699 00:40:02,317 --> 00:40:05,528 what you believe God says should be the way... 700 00:40:05,612 --> 00:40:09,073 human beings should relate within the family structure... 701 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:13,953 and all of a sudden, there are these "perverts" out here... 702 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:16,581 saying there are ways to live that are different from that... 703 00:40:16,665 --> 00:40:19,333 and that furthermore it's great and beautiful and true and good... 704 00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:21,419 then you're threatened. 705 00:40:21,503 --> 00:40:25,214 And the very fabric of what this nation is supposed to be made up of... 706 00:40:25,299 --> 00:40:29,510 in the eyes of the fundamentalists, was actually being attacked... 707 00:40:29,595 --> 00:40:32,138 or is actually being attacked, by gay people. 708 00:40:32,347 --> 00:40:34,223 You know about Prop 6? 709 00:40:34,308 --> 00:40:37,310 In August, four months before the election... 710 00:40:37,394 --> 00:40:40,938 opinion polls predicted that the majority of California citizens... 711 00:40:41,023 --> 00:40:43,983 would vote for John Briggs' Proposition 6... 712 00:40:44,067 --> 00:40:46,736 - and against the rights of gay teachers. - What do you think about it? 713 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,114 We had lost repeatedly. Every time that gay rights had been up for a vote... 714 00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:53,909 we had lost, around the country, usually by huge margins. 715 00:40:55,245 --> 00:40:57,997 Almost everyone thought we were going to lose, and lose badly. 716 00:40:58,081 --> 00:41:01,083 I don't remember anyone being optimistic. 717 00:41:01,168 --> 00:41:03,669 We were so pessimistic... 718 00:41:03,754 --> 00:41:05,963 or at least I was, and a lot of other people were... 719 00:41:06,048 --> 00:41:07,882 that we thought we might even lose San Francisco. 720 00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:11,552 The bulk of Briggs' support lies in Southern California... 721 00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:14,722 so his appearance here was more symbolic than functional. 722 00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:19,226 He called San Francisco the "moral garbage dump of the nation." 723 00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:22,229 If they're gonna lead such an open life of homosexuality... 724 00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:26,108 that they want a 21-gun salute every time somebody goes by them... 725 00:41:26,193 --> 00:41:29,028 those people are gonna be in danger of being removed from their job. 726 00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:31,072 People are very emotional. They don't want to listen. 727 00:41:31,156 --> 00:41:33,157 Look what happened in Germany. 728 00:41:33,241 --> 00:41:36,410 Anita Bryant already says that Jews and Moslems are going to hell. 729 00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:38,496 You know she's got a shopping list. 730 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:40,998 John Briggs said this morning that Dade County, Oklahoma... 731 00:41:41,083 --> 00:41:44,251 and St. Paul, Minnesota, were only preliminary battles. 732 00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:47,713 He called his California campaign against homosexual teachers... 733 00:41:47,798 --> 00:41:49,757 "the main event." 734 00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:53,719 At San Francisco City Hall, Linda Schacht, Channel 5 Eyewitness News. 735 00:41:55,222 --> 00:41:57,223 This was such a personal issue for me. 736 00:41:57,307 --> 00:41:59,308 This is something I did every day. 737 00:42:00,477 --> 00:42:04,605 And of course, the gay teacher issue is very volatile. 738 00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,566 To sit down with somebody who's a parent... 739 00:42:07,651 --> 00:42:09,902 and maybe not particularly vitriolic against people... 740 00:42:09,986 --> 00:42:12,822 but to really say, "This is a myth. I've been teaching here a long time. 741 00:42:12,906 --> 00:42:14,907 I'm not interested in getting in his pants." 742 00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:17,118 You know, people didn't want to hear it. 743 00:42:17,202 --> 00:42:20,246 I mean, how do you win people over to your side... 744 00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:22,832 on something that's so ingrained and so emotional? 745 00:42:22,916 --> 00:42:24,917 I mean, their children! 746 00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:27,586 So even though he was a buffoon, and even though he was ludicrous... 747 00:42:27,671 --> 00:42:31,465 he was also... at least the people who advised him... were brilliant... 748 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:34,176 because they picked on this particular issue: children! 749 00:42:34,261 --> 00:42:37,304 Um, it would be hard for me... 750 00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:41,058 if we're talking about schools, to go along with you. I... 751 00:42:41,143 --> 00:42:44,061 Any other adult thing that you do... 752 00:42:44,146 --> 00:42:46,939 the decorator, the hairdresser, whom I love, whom I have... 753 00:42:47,023 --> 00:42:49,775 I'd take him on every vacation if I had. I don't care what he does. 754 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:51,819 You went to people's houses and talked to them. 755 00:42:51,903 --> 00:42:55,489 And you didn't have to have a lot of money to do some of the things. 756 00:42:55,574 --> 00:42:58,451 You went to shopping centers. Because a lot of it was face-to-face. 757 00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:00,494 This was a very brave thing. 758 00:43:00,579 --> 00:43:02,037 - How are you? - May I ask you something? 759 00:43:02,122 --> 00:43:04,999 We're volunteers working against Proposition 6, the Briggs Initiative. 760 00:43:05,083 --> 00:43:07,084 Do you know about the Briggs Initiative? 761 00:43:07,169 --> 00:43:10,713 What is No. 6? Smoking? 762 00:43:10,797 --> 00:43:12,798 No, that's No. 5. 763 00:43:12,883 --> 00:43:15,551 No. 6 would force local school districts... 764 00:43:15,635 --> 00:43:18,220 to fire any teacher that was gay... 765 00:43:18,305 --> 00:43:22,349 or who believed that gay people have rights like other people. 766 00:43:22,434 --> 00:43:25,895 And we're concerned that that would be a real attack... 767 00:43:25,979 --> 00:43:28,397 on human rights for everybody. 768 00:43:28,482 --> 00:43:31,317 How do you feel about the initiative, on what you do know? 769 00:43:31,401 --> 00:43:35,279 Well, we don't have any definite opinion on this. 770 00:43:35,363 --> 00:43:37,364 No comment. 771 00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:39,617 - Could I leave some literature with you... - Sure. 772 00:43:39,701 --> 00:43:41,702 So you could learn a little bit more about it? 773 00:43:41,787 --> 00:43:44,205 - Are you registered voters? - Yes, I have registered already. 774 00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:46,415 Whoops! Sorry. 775 00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:50,503 I believe this is kind of personal matter. 776 00:43:50,587 --> 00:43:52,713 It sure is, but, uh... 777 00:43:52,798 --> 00:43:55,257 Yeah, it's something that we feel real strongly about. 778 00:43:55,342 --> 00:43:57,343 You know, a lot of my friends are gay teachers... 779 00:43:57,427 --> 00:44:00,179 and they'll lose their jobs over this, so I really wish you'd... 780 00:44:00,263 --> 00:44:02,556 - That is bad. - give some thought to it... 781 00:44:02,641 --> 00:44:05,851 because a lot of people will really be affected very badly by it. 782 00:44:05,936 --> 00:44:08,020 It's also something where once you set up one kind of thing... 783 00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,397 to discriminate against one group of people... 784 00:44:10,482 --> 00:44:12,483 lots of times it makes it easier to discriminate... 785 00:44:12,567 --> 00:44:14,568 against other groups of people next time around. 786 00:44:14,653 --> 00:44:16,904 - Right. - Well, give it some thought. 787 00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:19,365 - Okay. - I agree with you. 788 00:44:19,449 --> 00:44:23,536 If, by their silence and their doing nothing, Briggs should win... 789 00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:27,206 I think a lot of people are gonna realize they have to make an ultimate decision. 790 00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:29,625 The decision is to go back in their closet real good... 791 00:44:29,709 --> 00:44:32,920 slam the door tight... which some will do... 792 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:35,422 or burst down those closet doors once and for all... 793 00:44:35,507 --> 00:44:37,466 and stand up and start to fight. 794 00:44:37,551 --> 00:44:42,096 Because if we learn from history that the struggle goes on... 795 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:44,265 eventually we will win. 796 00:44:44,349 --> 00:44:48,018 And all the president has to do is... or the governor... 797 00:44:48,103 --> 00:44:50,396 is to turn the pages of history a little faster. 798 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,440 Join me in this message! 799 00:44:53,525 --> 00:44:58,279 Jimmy Carter, listen to us. You want to lead? 800 00:44:58,363 --> 00:45:01,282 You want to be the world's leader on human rights? 801 00:45:01,366 --> 00:45:03,909 Well, damn it, lead! 802 00:45:03,994 --> 00:45:07,288 There are 15... 803 00:45:07,372 --> 00:45:11,542 There are 15 million lesbians and gay men... 804 00:45:11,626 --> 00:45:13,627 waiting to hear your voice! 805 00:45:15,797 --> 00:45:19,967 The grassroots No-on-6 campaign was proving effective. 806 00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:24,430 One month before the election, the polls predicted a close vote. 807 00:45:26,266 --> 00:45:29,059 Many people had come to believe... 808 00:45:29,144 --> 00:45:32,730 the Briggs Initiative would violate constitutional rights. 809 00:45:32,814 --> 00:45:34,982 A surprising array of political figures... 810 00:45:35,066 --> 00:45:37,401 including former governor Ronald Reagan... 811 00:45:37,485 --> 00:45:39,486 and Supervisor Dan White... 812 00:45:39,571 --> 00:45:42,448 went on record against the proposition. 813 00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:44,950 President Carter spent less than an hour... 814 00:45:45,035 --> 00:45:46,994 at this downtown Sacramento rally. 815 00:45:47,078 --> 00:45:49,496 As the president left the podium... 816 00:45:49,581 --> 00:45:52,082 Jerry Brown whispered to him briefly... 817 00:45:52,167 --> 00:45:55,794 and he came back for one more word of advice for voters. 818 00:45:55,921 --> 00:45:59,173 Ford and Reagan have already come out against it, so I think it's perfectly safe. 819 00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:03,135 Also, I want to ask everybody to vote against Proposition 6. 820 00:46:09,601 --> 00:46:12,353 On November 7, 1978... 821 00:46:12,437 --> 00:46:18,651 Proposition 6 was defeated by a resounding 59% to 41 %. 822 00:46:18,735 --> 00:46:20,694 On election night... 823 00:46:20,779 --> 00:46:23,989 Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk... 824 00:46:24,074 --> 00:46:27,576 joined the jubilant celebration in the Castro. 825 00:46:27,661 --> 00:46:29,662 Harvey Milk was at the height... 826 00:46:29,746 --> 00:46:32,581 of his political power. 827 00:46:34,459 --> 00:46:37,878 Oh! That was one of the most... 828 00:46:37,963 --> 00:46:40,047 That was one of the most exciting nights in my life. 829 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,549 I don't think there's any doubt about it. It must have been... 830 00:46:42,634 --> 00:46:45,970 for most lesbians and gay men, at least in the state of California. 831 00:46:46,054 --> 00:46:48,472 Because it wasn't plain... 832 00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:52,935 even up until the evening of the vote... 833 00:46:53,019 --> 00:46:55,312 that we were gonna win... it wasn't plain at all. 834 00:46:55,397 --> 00:46:57,856 And then here was Harvey. 835 00:46:57,941 --> 00:46:59,900 And who had been the man 836 00:46:59,985 --> 00:47:02,528 who had carried the banner for gay people, you know? 837 00:47:02,612 --> 00:47:04,738 Who had been the man who had fought all along... 838 00:47:04,823 --> 00:47:06,824 in his politics on the board of supervisors... 839 00:47:06,908 --> 00:47:09,243 but particularly during the 6 campaign? 840 00:47:09,327 --> 00:47:11,286 It had been Harvey. 841 00:47:11,371 --> 00:47:13,497 He had been the symbol for all of us. He had been the image. 842 00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:15,958 And he mounted that platform... 843 00:47:16,042 --> 00:47:17,960 and I thought the place was gonna collapse. 844 00:47:18,044 --> 00:47:20,337 I've never heard such cheering in my life. 845 00:47:21,339 --> 00:47:24,925 To the gay community all over this state... 846 00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:27,553 my message to you is... 847 00:47:27,637 --> 00:47:32,683 so far a lot of people joined us and rejected Proposition 6... 848 00:47:32,767 --> 00:47:36,061 and now we owe them something. 849 00:47:36,146 --> 00:47:41,233 We owe them to continue the education campaign that took place. 850 00:47:41,317 --> 00:47:45,070 We must destroy the myths, once and for all shatter them. 851 00:47:45,155 --> 00:47:48,365 We must continue to speak out... 852 00:47:48,450 --> 00:47:50,576 and most importantly... 853 00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:54,079 most importantly, every gay person... 854 00:47:54,164 --> 00:47:56,123 must come out. 855 00:47:59,127 --> 00:48:01,211 As difficult as it is... 856 00:48:01,296 --> 00:48:03,797 you must tell your immediate family. 857 00:48:03,882 --> 00:48:06,050 You must tell your relatives. 858 00:48:06,134 --> 00:48:09,511 You must tell your friends, if indeed they are your friends. 859 00:48:09,596 --> 00:48:11,180 You must tell your neighbors. 860 00:48:11,264 --> 00:48:13,307 You must tell the people you work with. 861 00:48:13,391 --> 00:48:17,144 You must tell the people in the stores you shop in. You... 862 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:30,866 And once they realize that we are indeed their children... 863 00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:32,951 and we are indeed everywhere... 864 00:48:33,036 --> 00:48:36,997 every myth, every lie, every innuendo... 865 00:48:37,082 --> 00:48:40,000 will be destroyed once and for all. 866 00:48:40,085 --> 00:48:42,711 And once... once you do... 867 00:48:42,796 --> 00:48:45,047 you will feel so much better. 868 00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:54,848 ...can't stand for anymore. I'm angry. 869 00:48:54,933 --> 00:48:57,768 Four days after the Briggs Initiative lost... 870 00:48:57,852 --> 00:49:00,896 Dan White engineered his own defeat. 871 00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:05,025 Surprising everyone, he resigned from the board of supervisors. 872 00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:09,238 In the last year, Dan White had left a secure job as a fireman... 873 00:49:09,322 --> 00:49:12,574 been elected a city supervisor for little pay... 874 00:49:12,659 --> 00:49:14,701 launched a risky new business... 875 00:49:14,786 --> 00:49:17,287 and become a father for the first time. 876 00:49:17,372 --> 00:49:20,999 Dan White had entered City Hall an idealist. 877 00:49:21,084 --> 00:49:24,336 Unlike his flourishing counterpart, Harvey Milk... 878 00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:27,256 he was often frustrated by the job. 879 00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:30,467 White had never learned to operate in City Hall's atmosphere... 880 00:49:30,552 --> 00:49:32,553 of back scratching and compromise. 881 00:49:32,637 --> 00:49:34,596 If there's members that don't want to cooperate... 882 00:49:34,681 --> 00:49:37,015 White's resignation left Mayor Moscone... 883 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,601 with the task of finding a replacement. 884 00:49:42,272 --> 00:49:44,898 Mr. Mayor, what's happened since Dan White has resigned? 885 00:49:44,983 --> 00:49:46,984 I understand you're getting a lot of phone calls? 886 00:49:47,068 --> 00:49:49,820 The phone calls and cards and letters have been coming... 887 00:49:49,904 --> 00:49:52,030 I will tell you, as Dean Martin used to say. 888 00:49:52,115 --> 00:49:56,743 I was lobbied from just about the evening that Dan White resigned... 889 00:49:56,828 --> 00:50:00,372 all through the weekend, and the phones have been ringing off the hook today. 890 00:50:00,456 --> 00:50:04,585 This is Supervisorial District 8, Dan White's former district. 891 00:50:04,669 --> 00:50:08,130 As you know, most people were very surprised when Dan quit last Friday. 892 00:50:08,214 --> 00:50:10,924 No one seemed to know. He didn't tell any of his fellow supervisors... 893 00:50:11,009 --> 00:50:13,010 nor did he tell any of his political supporters. 894 00:50:13,094 --> 00:50:17,181 Obviously, you know, if the time I spent to become elected... 895 00:50:17,265 --> 00:50:21,226 the time I spent down at the board, the hours, the many hours I've spent... 896 00:50:21,311 --> 00:50:23,270 I don't want to see wasted. 897 00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:26,398 But for now, I can only deal with my family's responsibilities. 898 00:50:26,482 --> 00:50:28,442 Many don't agree with Dan White. 899 00:50:28,526 --> 00:50:30,861 They say he gave up all of his political chits... 900 00:50:30,945 --> 00:50:33,322 when he resigned so quickly without making any arrangements... 901 00:50:33,406 --> 00:50:37,492 for someone whom he liked and supported to take over this district. 902 00:50:37,577 --> 00:50:39,578 In Supervisor District 8, I'm David Fowler... 903 00:50:39,662 --> 00:50:41,705 Channel 5 Eyewitness News. 904 00:50:42,999 --> 00:50:46,126 Well, now it starts all over again, because this morning... 905 00:50:46,211 --> 00:50:48,128 former supervisor Dan White says... 906 00:50:48,213 --> 00:50:51,673 he wants to be called supervisor one more time. 907 00:50:51,758 --> 00:50:55,719 I didn't run for election to resign ten months later. I worked awfully hard. 908 00:50:55,803 --> 00:50:59,014 My wife and my supporters worked awfully hard... 909 00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:01,099 so that I would be elected. 910 00:51:01,184 --> 00:51:03,852 And it was a major decision, as you can all understand, on Friday... 911 00:51:03,937 --> 00:51:06,438 that I had to come... to arrive at. 912 00:51:06,522 --> 00:51:09,441 But since that time, people unknown to me... 913 00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,110 plus my family and friends, uh... 914 00:51:12,195 --> 00:51:14,613 have come to me and stated that they want me to stay in office... 915 00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:16,657 that they supported me to stay in office. 916 00:51:16,741 --> 00:51:19,201 Mayor Moscone learned from the city attorney... 917 00:51:19,285 --> 00:51:22,371 that Dan White could not take back his resignation. 918 00:51:22,455 --> 00:51:24,748 It was up to the mayor to decide... 919 00:51:24,832 --> 00:51:27,834 who would get the District 8 seat. 920 00:51:27,919 --> 00:51:31,630 Harvey Milk lobbied hard against reappointing Dan White. 921 00:51:31,714 --> 00:51:37,177 Harvey's story was that the mayor was thinking of reappointing Dan... 922 00:51:37,262 --> 00:51:40,097 and that Harvey went in and said, "How can you possibly do that? 923 00:51:40,181 --> 00:51:42,724 Dan is the sixth vote on the board we need." 924 00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:46,186 And certainly Harvey was courageous in that stance... 925 00:51:46,271 --> 00:51:48,272 because no one else was doin' it. 926 00:51:48,356 --> 00:51:52,192 And there were other supervisors on the board who felt just as strongly... 927 00:51:52,277 --> 00:51:54,528 but they weren't going to get involved in that. 928 00:51:54,612 --> 00:51:58,532 I mean, what if Dan got reappointed, you know? Think of the animosity. 929 00:51:59,826 --> 00:52:01,785 Moscone started to get word from his coalition... 930 00:52:01,869 --> 00:52:04,329 of neighborhood groups and ethnic voters. 931 00:52:04,414 --> 00:52:06,456 Most of the problems of the people here tonight... 932 00:52:06,541 --> 00:52:09,209 were that they were not consulted... they might have helped... 933 00:52:09,294 --> 00:52:12,045 and the fact that they weren't even given the dignity... 934 00:52:12,130 --> 00:52:14,131 of his concern bothered them. 935 00:52:14,215 --> 00:52:16,591 So that's obviously not the best way to go. 936 00:52:16,676 --> 00:52:20,971 I think a 10-month supervisor can be excused for political na�vet�. 937 00:52:21,055 --> 00:52:23,724 I'm simply saying it may not have been the best way to go. 938 00:52:23,808 --> 00:52:26,310 But the issue is bigger than his style. 939 00:52:26,394 --> 00:52:31,398 The issue is what's fair, right, and just for the people of District 8. 940 00:52:31,482 --> 00:52:34,109 White was at City Hall with his group of backers: 941 00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:36,278 some citizens, firemen... 942 00:52:36,362 --> 00:52:39,573 and a delegation representing large real estate firms. 943 00:52:39,657 --> 00:52:42,701 I'm overwhelmed at your support, that you would take time out... 944 00:52:42,785 --> 00:52:45,996 to come down here on a Friday at this time... 945 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,415 to show not only me but the people of my district... 946 00:52:48,499 --> 00:52:50,459 and the people of San Francisco... 947 00:52:50,543 --> 00:52:52,878 that you approve of the way I'm conducting myself. 948 00:52:52,962 --> 00:52:56,757 But then Dan White and the shambles of his political career... 949 00:52:56,841 --> 00:53:00,635 were upstaged by chaos of an entirely different order. 950 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,013 The city learned of the murder-suicide... 951 00:53:03,097 --> 00:53:05,432 of some 900 people... 952 00:53:05,516 --> 00:53:07,517 most of them San Franciscans. 953 00:53:07,602 --> 00:53:10,145 In Jonestown, Guyana. 954 00:53:11,814 --> 00:53:14,107 On Monday, November 27... 955 00:53:14,192 --> 00:53:18,862 Mayor Moscone planned to announce District 8's new supervisor. 956 00:53:18,946 --> 00:53:21,782 It was not going to be Dan White. 957 00:53:22,575 --> 00:53:26,411 Good evening. To outsiders and even to some San Franciscans... 958 00:53:26,496 --> 00:53:29,414 it must appear the city has gone a little insane. 959 00:53:29,499 --> 00:53:31,458 Just as everyone is beginning to come to grips... 960 00:53:31,542 --> 00:53:34,127 with the mindless murder-suicide of over 900 members... 961 00:53:34,212 --> 00:53:36,630 of the San Francisco-based People's Temple... 962 00:53:36,714 --> 00:53:39,341 word screams out over the radio, the television, the newspapers... 963 00:53:39,425 --> 00:53:41,426 that another tragedy is upon us. 964 00:53:54,023 --> 00:53:56,358 Code 3, room 200. 965 00:53:56,442 --> 00:53:58,652 I'm in the mayor's office. 966 00:53:58,736 --> 00:54:01,321 One moment. 967 00:54:01,406 --> 00:54:04,324 We're trying to ascertain what's happening. 968 00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:07,786 Room 237, please. 969 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,206 Get another ambulance over here, will ya? 970 00:54:16,129 --> 00:54:18,130 Where are the victims going? 971 00:54:18,214 --> 00:54:20,173 I don't know if they're going anywhere. 972 00:54:20,258 --> 00:54:23,885 Harvey Milk and the Mayor are supposed to be D.O.A. 973 00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:29,599 As president of the board, I-I'm, I'm... 974 00:54:29,684 --> 00:54:31,768 As president of the board of supervisors... 975 00:54:31,853 --> 00:54:35,188 it's my duty to make this announcement. 976 00:54:35,273 --> 00:54:40,026 Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk... 977 00:54:40,111 --> 00:54:42,279 have been shot and killed. 978 00:54:42,363 --> 00:54:44,448 No! Jesus Christ! 979 00:54:44,532 --> 00:54:46,616 The... 980 00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:50,579 - Hold it! - Hold it! 981 00:54:50,663 --> 00:54:53,457 - Shh! - Quiet! 982 00:54:53,583 --> 00:54:56,251 Quiet, everybody! 983 00:54:56,335 --> 00:55:00,464 The suspect is Supervisor Dan White. 984 00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:04,968 Is he in custody? 985 00:55:05,052 --> 00:55:08,972 He's not... He's not at this time. Thank you very much. 986 00:55:09,223 --> 00:55:12,434 Attention all units: suspect named Dan White. 987 00:55:12,518 --> 00:55:15,353 White male adult, 32 years... 988 00:55:16,522 --> 00:55:19,065 six feet, 185 pounds... 989 00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:21,359 wearing a three-piece brown suit. 990 00:55:21,444 --> 00:55:24,446 Considered armed and dangerous. 991 00:55:29,994 --> 00:55:33,747 Attention all units: Former supervisor Dan White is now in custody. 992 00:55:33,831 --> 00:55:39,669 Repeating: Former supervisor Dan White is now in custody. Clear. 993 00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:42,672 Dan, why'd you do it? 994 00:55:43,966 --> 00:55:46,134 Dan, why? Why? 995 00:55:58,397 --> 00:56:00,982 Okay, that's it. Enough. That's it. 996 00:56:02,068 --> 00:56:05,779 At approximately 10:45 a.m... 997 00:56:05,863 --> 00:56:08,865 realizing he was not going to be reappointed... 998 00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:13,411 Dan White went directly to the mayor's office unannounced. 999 00:56:13,496 --> 00:56:15,455 There was a brief argument. 1000 00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:19,417 Dan White pulled out a gun and shot George Moscone. 1001 00:56:19,502 --> 00:56:21,461 The mayor fell... 1002 00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:25,549 and White fired two more bullets into his head. 1003 00:56:25,633 --> 00:56:27,634 White then reloaded his gun. 1004 00:56:27,718 --> 00:56:29,719 He walked to the other side of City Hall... 1005 00:56:29,804 --> 00:56:32,138 and into Harvey Milk's office. 1006 00:56:32,223 --> 00:56:34,808 Five shots rang out. 1007 00:56:34,892 --> 00:56:37,102 According to the coroner's report... 1008 00:56:37,186 --> 00:56:40,063 Harvey Milk was rising, both hands out in front of him... 1009 00:56:40,147 --> 00:56:42,148 when the first shot hit. 1010 00:56:42,233 --> 00:56:45,694 He fell. White fired three more times. 1011 00:56:45,778 --> 00:56:48,405 He leaned over and, from above... 1012 00:56:48,489 --> 00:56:51,241 put the gun nearly against Harvey Milk's head... 1013 00:56:51,325 --> 00:56:54,160 and fired a last time. 1014 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,000 The day that Harvey was killed... 1015 00:57:00,084 --> 00:57:03,253 I was flying up to Seattle to visit my folks... 1016 00:57:03,337 --> 00:57:06,840 and it's really... 1017 00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:12,053 I think it was the first time I had seen them since our talk about coming out. 1018 00:57:12,138 --> 00:57:17,350 I, um... got on the plane at 11:15 in San Francisco. 1019 00:57:17,435 --> 00:57:21,021 Harvey was killed at 11:10, but I had no idea. 1020 00:57:21,105 --> 00:57:23,940 And so I screamed, and I came back up Van Ness Avenue... 1021 00:57:24,066 --> 00:57:27,027 and I remember thinking, "People are going about their business in an ordinary way. 1022 00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:29,529 How dare they go about their business in an ordinary way! 1023 00:57:29,614 --> 00:57:32,240 Don't you realize the course of history's been changed?" 1024 00:57:32,325 --> 00:57:37,537 We had a black-and-white television, and we turned it on in the office and, um... 1025 00:57:37,622 --> 00:57:40,165 I think it was just too painful, you know? 1026 00:57:40,249 --> 00:57:45,754 I mean, it was clear that both of them were dead, brutally assassinated. 1027 00:57:45,838 --> 00:57:48,131 And I... You know, I... 1028 00:57:51,969 --> 00:57:54,304 I walked out of the office. 1029 00:57:58,059 --> 00:58:00,101 I had the radio on... 1030 00:58:00,186 --> 00:58:03,980 and the guy came on, and he said it with such a certitude. 1031 00:58:04,065 --> 00:58:06,816 Sometimes you hear things on the news, and they're not gonna be true. 1032 00:58:06,901 --> 00:58:08,902 He just said it, and I knew it was true. 1033 00:58:08,986 --> 00:58:11,363 In fact, I... It's interesting. Later I thought... 1034 00:58:11,447 --> 00:58:13,823 "I've always kind of thought this might happen"... 1035 00:58:13,908 --> 00:58:16,660 and never dwelled on it, and here it was happening. 1036 00:58:16,744 --> 00:58:20,205 He was saying, "Harvey Milk and George Moscone... 1037 00:58:20,289 --> 00:58:22,749 were shot and killed by Dan White." 1038 00:58:22,833 --> 00:58:25,251 And I just screamed, "No!" It just kinda came out. 1039 00:58:25,336 --> 00:58:28,213 People looked, but I had a feeling people knew why I was screaming. 1040 00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:31,758 So I drove down to City Hall. I wasn't going to sit here and go crazy. 1041 00:58:31,842 --> 00:58:34,094 And I had to park far away... 1042 00:58:34,178 --> 00:58:37,097 so I walked past this entrance that I ordinarily... 1043 00:58:37,181 --> 00:58:39,265 would not walk past... 1044 00:58:39,350 --> 00:58:41,685 and they were bringing out the bodies then. 1045 00:58:41,769 --> 00:58:44,646 You know, it's kind of... 1046 00:58:45,314 --> 00:58:48,483 I mean, you can think somebody's dead, but I mean, there... 1047 00:58:48,567 --> 00:58:51,194 And I knew it was Milk because I knew how tall he was. 1048 00:58:51,278 --> 00:58:54,614 And they hadn't covered part of his feet or something, and I... 1049 00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:56,700 You know, you trip out on different things, and you think... 1050 00:58:56,784 --> 00:58:59,619 "God, what a big foot, Harvey. I never realized you had such a big foot." 1051 00:58:59,704 --> 00:59:04,999 And so then I went around to City Hall in the front... 1052 00:59:05,084 --> 00:59:08,128 and there these... a lot of media people. 1053 00:59:08,212 --> 00:59:11,214 And the thing that struck me the most was... 1054 00:59:11,298 --> 00:59:13,321 I don't know. I guess, again, this expressive 1055 00:59:13,322 --> 00:59:15,343 southern Italian background I have. 1056 00:59:15,428 --> 00:59:20,348 I thought people would be going "Ahh!" but instead it was quiet. 1057 00:59:20,433 --> 00:59:23,351 It was silent. 1058 00:59:37,658 --> 00:59:40,160 We got back, and my roommate picked us up at the airport, and he said... 1059 00:59:40,244 --> 00:59:43,079 "There's gonna be a candlelight march. Do you want to go to it?" 1060 00:59:43,164 --> 00:59:45,165 And we said, "Of course." 1061 00:59:45,249 --> 00:59:47,625 So he said, "Well, by now it's probably reached City Hall." 1062 00:59:47,710 --> 00:59:50,044 So we drove directly from the airport to City Hall... 1063 00:59:50,129 --> 00:59:52,964 and there were maybe 75 people there. 1064 00:59:53,048 --> 00:59:58,553 And I remember thinking, "My God, is this all that anybody cared?" you know. 1065 00:59:59,555 --> 01:00:02,766 And somebody said, "No, the march hasn't gotten here yet." 1066 01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:05,977 So we then walked over to Market Street... 1067 01:00:06,061 --> 01:00:08,897 which is two or three blocks away, and looked down it. 1068 01:00:08,981 --> 01:00:13,777 Market Street runs in a straight line out to the Castro area. 1069 01:00:13,861 --> 01:00:15,862 And as we turned the corner... 1070 01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:18,072 there were people... 1071 01:00:18,157 --> 01:00:22,035 as wide as this wide street, as far as you could see. 1072 01:00:56,987 --> 01:01:00,365 Thousands and thousands of people... 1073 01:01:00,449 --> 01:01:04,452 and that feeling of such loss. 1074 01:01:05,621 --> 01:01:09,707 Having lost someone who was so important... and some thing. 1075 01:01:09,792 --> 01:01:13,378 Harvey stood for something more than just him. 1076 01:01:30,354 --> 01:01:33,731 The combination of Harvey being killed... 1077 01:01:33,816 --> 01:01:35,817 and going down with all those people... 1078 01:01:38,153 --> 01:01:41,114 I don't know if you call it "expressing your grief" or what it was... 1079 01:01:41,198 --> 01:01:43,241 but being with all those people, and... 1080 01:01:45,035 --> 01:01:47,871 it's nighttime in San Francisco, and a bunch of strangers around you... 1081 01:01:47,955 --> 01:01:50,373 and you feel as safe as you do in your own home. 1082 01:02:12,062 --> 01:02:16,691 And there was this black man on the corner of... whatever... Noe there... 1083 01:02:16,775 --> 01:02:19,777 and he kept shouting, "Where is your anger? 1084 01:02:19,862 --> 01:02:22,447 Where is your anger? Where is your anger?" 1085 01:02:22,531 --> 01:02:24,532 And, you know, I didn't know where it was. 1086 01:02:24,617 --> 01:02:26,242 I think that all of us at that time... 1087 01:02:26,327 --> 01:02:31,122 were in such a, a, a state of shock, you know, that... 1088 01:02:31,206 --> 01:02:33,750 I don't know if it was numbed or we were anesthetized. 1089 01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:35,835 Certainly I was angry... 1090 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,505 but it seemed appropriate to do this... 1091 01:02:39,590 --> 01:02:42,425 peaceful, kind of internalized thing... 1092 01:02:42,509 --> 01:02:45,845 out of some kind of respect for the enormity of what happened. 1093 01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:49,724 It was one of the most eloquent expressions... 1094 01:02:49,808 --> 01:02:53,686 of a community's response to violence that I've ever seen. 1095 01:02:55,189 --> 01:02:57,732 I think we as lesbians and gay men... 1096 01:02:57,816 --> 01:03:00,109 and all of the straight people who were marching with us that night... 1097 01:03:00,194 --> 01:03:02,320 and there were thousands... 1098 01:03:02,404 --> 01:03:04,405 I think we said it. 1099 01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:06,908 I think we sent a message to the nation that night... 1100 01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:09,160 about what our immediate response was. 1101 01:03:09,244 --> 01:03:11,204 Not violence... 1102 01:03:11,288 --> 01:03:15,583 but a certain respect for Harvey... 1103 01:03:15,668 --> 01:03:20,713 and a deep... a deep regret and feeling of tragedy about it... 1104 01:03:20,798 --> 01:03:23,174 because Moscone had been our friend as well. 1105 01:03:34,228 --> 01:03:36,479 And then going down to City Hall... 1106 01:03:36,563 --> 01:03:39,440 that tremendous expanse of people. 1107 01:03:39,525 --> 01:03:43,987 And I turned to John and I said, "Harvey would have loved this!" 1108 01:03:44,071 --> 01:03:46,906 When we kind of tried to get close to the stage... 1109 01:03:46,991 --> 01:03:48,992 and I saw friends up there and I thought... 1110 01:03:49,076 --> 01:03:51,077 "Oh, I just can't go face anybody." 1111 01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:55,289 I started to cry, and everyone started to cry. It was just so touching. 1112 01:03:55,374 --> 01:03:58,001 I'm gonna start to cry now. 1113 01:03:58,085 --> 01:04:02,714 But there's a statue down there, and everyone put candles... 1114 01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:16,936 You know, several people, right that following week... 1115 01:04:17,021 --> 01:04:20,023 came out of the closet because they had been there... 1116 01:04:20,107 --> 01:04:24,110 and they had seen, you know, all of the people... 1117 01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:27,989 and they had felt that they had been living a lie. 1118 01:04:28,073 --> 01:04:31,034 Sorry, better stop. I don't know if I can... 1119 01:04:31,118 --> 01:04:35,455 They really felt so moved that they came out to people... 1120 01:04:35,539 --> 01:04:38,374 and said, "Did you know that I'm gay?" 1121 01:04:38,459 --> 01:04:41,627 And, um, I was so touched by it... 1122 01:04:41,712 --> 01:04:45,631 because that's what Harvey had stood for... 1123 01:04:45,716 --> 01:04:50,428 and it took his death for them to realize that... 1124 01:04:50,512 --> 01:04:52,472 They just came out. 1125 01:04:52,556 --> 01:04:56,559 No one would fire them from their jobs, because it's against the law... 1126 01:04:56,643 --> 01:04:58,644 and they could still live a life... 1127 01:04:58,729 --> 01:05:02,774 and yet that part of our society that's very closed could open. 1128 01:05:44,108 --> 01:05:46,526 On Thursday, November 30... 1129 01:05:46,610 --> 01:05:50,905 George Moscone's funeral was held at St. Mary's Cathedral. 1130 01:05:50,989 --> 01:05:53,407 On Saturday, December 2... 1131 01:05:53,492 --> 01:05:58,121 Harvey Milk's ashes were scattered into the Pacific by his friends. 1132 01:06:06,755 --> 01:06:10,133 Today we went looking for clues to why White would kill the mayor... 1133 01:06:10,217 --> 01:06:12,969 who refused to reappoint him to his post... 1134 01:06:13,053 --> 01:06:15,555 and a supervisor who opposed him politically. 1135 01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:17,932 We didn't find any. 1136 01:06:18,016 --> 01:06:20,184 For many years, the Whites lived on London Street... 1137 01:06:20,269 --> 01:06:22,395 in the southeast sector of San Francisco... 1138 01:06:22,479 --> 01:06:24,730 which White served during his few months on the board... 1139 01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,774 and where he was raised. 1140 01:06:26,859 --> 01:06:29,569 Among their neighbors on London Street were the Cooks. 1141 01:06:29,653 --> 01:06:32,905 I don't know. I don't know. He, he... 1142 01:06:33,866 --> 01:06:36,868 He must have went off the deep end, because he was just a nice guy. 1143 01:06:36,952 --> 01:06:38,995 Did he ever show any signs of cracking up? 1144 01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:43,166 No, nothing. He was all-American boy, as far as I was concerned. 1145 01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:45,543 I never did see him really argue with anybody. 1146 01:06:45,627 --> 01:06:48,337 I think he was a very family-oriented man. 1147 01:06:48,422 --> 01:06:50,882 Catholic. He went to church all the time. 1148 01:06:50,966 --> 01:06:53,342 He was very devoted to the job. 1149 01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:56,429 And I don't think he had any grudge towards anybody. 1150 01:06:56,513 --> 01:06:58,848 I don't think anybody disliked him, that I knew of. 1151 01:07:00,267 --> 01:07:03,102 Five months after the assassinations... 1152 01:07:03,187 --> 01:07:05,605 Dan White went on trial. 1153 01:07:07,858 --> 01:07:11,694 Couldn't see how the trial would last more than... more than a day. 1154 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:13,946 Such a cut-and-dried thing. 1155 01:07:14,031 --> 01:07:18,576 You know, there was... You'd follow the newspapers, but no big deal. 1156 01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:20,870 He was automatically gonna be guilty... 1157 01:07:20,954 --> 01:07:23,789 and go to San Quentin the rest of his life, you know. 1158 01:07:23,874 --> 01:07:25,917 Anybody knew that. 1159 01:07:28,128 --> 01:07:33,257 As the trial and the jury selection started... 1160 01:07:35,427 --> 01:07:39,639 I sort of developed this sense of doom... 1161 01:07:39,723 --> 01:07:42,600 that justice was not going to prevail... 1162 01:07:42,684 --> 01:07:45,645 because the jury selection process... 1163 01:07:45,729 --> 01:07:49,148 excluded gay people... 1164 01:07:49,233 --> 01:07:53,152 minority residents, and anyone who may have had... 1165 01:07:53,237 --> 01:07:58,032 a political point of view that would be different from Dan White. 1166 01:07:58,116 --> 01:08:00,117 And I don't want to knock the jury system... 1167 01:08:00,202 --> 01:08:04,705 because I do believe in the jury system... 1168 01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:07,917 but once you knock all these people out... 1169 01:08:08,001 --> 01:08:10,002 what does that leave you with? 1170 01:08:10,087 --> 01:08:13,756 We had turned this over to be taken care of... 1171 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,177 to a system that was actually in many ways responsible for these assassinations. 1172 01:08:18,262 --> 01:08:20,138 So there's this little feeling in your 1173 01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:22,014 stomach when you get afraid and you think... 1174 01:08:22,099 --> 01:08:24,058 "What am I gonna do, you know, personally? 1175 01:08:24,142 --> 01:08:26,394 What are we gonna do? He's in the hands of the cops." 1176 01:08:26,478 --> 01:08:31,315 The prosecution argued a simple motive: revenge. 1177 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,776 Detailing the facts of the crime... 1178 01:08:33,860 --> 01:08:38,239 the state spent three days proving that Dan White committed the murders. 1179 01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:43,744 White's own lawyers had already admitted this in their opening statement. 1180 01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:45,830 To prove its case... 1181 01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:49,542 the prosecution played a tape of Dan White's confession... 1182 01:08:49,626 --> 01:08:52,003 but the tactic backfired. 1183 01:08:52,087 --> 01:08:55,673 Some of the jurors wept in sympathy for White. 1184 01:08:56,717 --> 01:08:59,802 I've been under an awful lot of pressure lately. 1185 01:08:59,886 --> 01:09:03,806 Financial pressure that affected my job situation. 1186 01:09:05,309 --> 01:09:07,310 Family pressure. 1187 01:09:07,394 --> 01:09:10,771 Not being able to have the time with my family. 1188 01:09:11,898 --> 01:09:14,066 The mayor never called me. 1189 01:09:14,151 --> 01:09:17,236 He told me he was gonna call me before he made any decision. 1190 01:09:17,321 --> 01:09:19,780 He never did that. 1191 01:09:19,865 --> 01:09:22,783 It was only on my... my own initiative... 1192 01:09:22,868 --> 01:09:25,161 when I went down today to speak with him. 1193 01:09:26,121 --> 01:09:28,497 I was troubled. 1194 01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:32,752 The, the pressure, my... The family again. 1195 01:09:32,836 --> 01:09:35,212 My, my son's out to a babysitter. 1196 01:09:35,297 --> 01:09:38,758 My wife's gotta work long hours. 1197 01:09:40,135 --> 01:09:43,262 You know, I just was going to the mayor to see... 1198 01:09:43,347 --> 01:09:45,598 if he was gonna reappoint me... 1199 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,436 just all the time knowin' he was gonna go out and lie to the press... 1200 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,440 and tell 'em, you know, that I wasn't a good supervisor... 1201 01:09:54,524 --> 01:09:56,525 and that people didn't want me and... 1202 01:09:57,736 --> 01:10:00,404 And then that was it. Then I... 1203 01:10:00,489 --> 01:10:02,448 I just shot him. 1204 01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:06,452 And then it struck me about what Harvey had tried to do... 1205 01:10:06,536 --> 01:10:09,872 and I said, "Well, I'll go talk to him." 1206 01:10:09,956 --> 01:10:12,458 I said, "At least maybe he'll be honest with me." 1207 01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:14,919 And he was all smiles and stuff when I went in. 1208 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:19,256 He knew I wasn't going to be reappointed and, uh... 1209 01:10:19,841 --> 01:10:22,301 he just kind of smirked at me... 1210 01:10:22,386 --> 01:10:25,971 as if to say, "Too bad." 1211 01:10:26,056 --> 01:10:29,225 And then... 1212 01:10:29,309 --> 01:10:32,645 And then I just got all flushed and hot... 1213 01:10:32,729 --> 01:10:34,772 and I shot him. 1214 01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:38,984 Now, if Dan White wants to save himself from the death penalty... 1215 01:10:39,069 --> 01:10:42,696 he's going to have to prove that he didn't plan to kill anyone that day. 1216 01:10:42,781 --> 01:10:45,408 Prosecutors say he did premeditate the murders... 1217 01:10:45,492 --> 01:10:47,827 because on that day he put his gun on... 1218 01:10:47,911 --> 01:10:50,579 and he put a bunch of extra bullets into his pocket. 1219 01:10:50,664 --> 01:10:54,542 Then he got into City Hall here by climbing in this window... 1220 01:10:54,626 --> 01:10:58,629 knowing he couldn't get his gun past the metal detector in the main entrance. 1221 01:10:58,713 --> 01:11:03,008 Prosecutors say this shows he was planning to do something suspicious. 1222 01:11:03,093 --> 01:11:05,177 White's lawyer claims it's common for people... 1223 01:11:05,262 --> 01:11:07,513 to try to get into City Hall this way... 1224 01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:10,766 that Dan White was only carrying a gun to protect himself... 1225 01:11:10,851 --> 01:11:13,310 and that other supervisors, including Feinstein... 1226 01:11:13,395 --> 01:11:15,771 have carried guns for protection. 1227 01:11:15,856 --> 01:11:18,524 But if he was only trying to protect himself that day... 1228 01:11:18,608 --> 01:11:22,194 why did he put all those extra bullets into his pocket? 1229 01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:25,865 It will be interesting to see how the defense tries to explain that. 1230 01:11:25,949 --> 01:11:28,200 You told the jury that... 1231 01:11:28,285 --> 01:11:31,203 although he had the gun with him, the .38... 1232 01:11:31,288 --> 01:11:34,373 he had no intention of shooting anyone at City Hall, correct? 1233 01:11:34,458 --> 01:11:36,375 That's correct. 1234 01:11:36,460 --> 01:11:40,921 And that other supervisors carried weapons with permits. Is that correct? 1235 01:11:41,006 --> 01:11:42,923 Well, I didn't mention "with permits"... 1236 01:11:43,008 --> 01:11:46,177 but I did say that other supervisors and perhaps other City Hall personnel... 1237 01:11:46,261 --> 01:11:50,014 do carry firearms presently and have carried them in the past, yeah. 1238 01:11:50,098 --> 01:11:52,850 Do you know if the other people who do carry weapons... 1239 01:11:52,934 --> 01:11:55,644 also carry ten extra rounds in their pocket? 1240 01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:58,189 I think ex-police officers... 1241 01:11:58,273 --> 01:12:01,150 and certainly police officers, on or off duty... 1242 01:12:01,234 --> 01:12:03,360 carry extra ammunition, yes. 1243 01:12:03,445 --> 01:12:08,741 And that is also why you say he reloaded after shooting Mayor Moscone. 1244 01:12:08,825 --> 01:12:10,826 That is what I said, yes. 1245 01:12:10,911 --> 01:12:14,163 Now, clarify that though... because of his experience as an ex-police officer. 1246 01:12:14,247 --> 01:12:16,499 Yes, I think it was more instinctive than anything else. 1247 01:12:17,542 --> 01:12:19,960 White was portrayed as an idealist... 1248 01:12:20,045 --> 01:12:22,546 disgusted with the corruption of politics... 1249 01:12:22,631 --> 01:12:25,508 a man who felt the city was deteriorating... 1250 01:12:25,592 --> 01:12:28,010 as a decent place for San Franciscans to live. 1251 01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,432 Defense attorney Doug Schmidt told the jury... 1252 01:12:33,517 --> 01:12:36,852 "Good people, fine people with fine backgrounds... 1253 01:12:36,937 --> 01:12:39,480 simply don't kill people in cold blood. 1254 01:12:39,564 --> 01:12:41,982 It just doesn't happen." 1255 01:12:42,067 --> 01:12:47,404 A key witness for the defense was Dan White's wife, Mary Ann. 1256 01:12:47,489 --> 01:12:52,034 I knew the types of pressure... 1257 01:12:52,118 --> 01:12:54,119 that Danny was under. 1258 01:12:54,204 --> 01:12:58,040 I felt the pressure myself, and... 1259 01:12:58,124 --> 01:13:01,043 I think when this occurred, I felt more for Danny... 1260 01:13:01,127 --> 01:13:03,128 than I did for myself or anyone else. 1261 01:13:03,213 --> 01:13:06,590 I really did. I just felt so much that I wanted to do something for him. 1262 01:13:06,675 --> 01:13:09,802 Do you foresee a point in the future... 1263 01:13:09,886 --> 01:13:13,347 where your life can return to some degree of normalcy? 1264 01:13:13,431 --> 01:13:15,432 Oh, yes. 1265 01:13:15,517 --> 01:13:19,645 I firmly believe that there's... 1266 01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:23,440 something for us good that will come out of this. 1267 01:13:23,525 --> 01:13:27,403 White's lawyers introduced the testimony of five psychiatrists... 1268 01:13:27,487 --> 01:13:31,073 to prove that he acted while in a state of severe depression... 1269 01:13:31,157 --> 01:13:35,077 induced in part by consuming too much junk food. 1270 01:13:36,246 --> 01:13:40,291 His attorneys argued he had killed Moscone and Milk in the heat of the moment... 1271 01:13:40,375 --> 01:13:42,334 and that under the law... 1272 01:13:42,419 --> 01:13:44,962 the charges against him should be reduced... 1273 01:13:45,046 --> 01:13:47,840 from murder to manslaughter. 1274 01:13:47,924 --> 01:13:50,884 The trial concluded in just eleven days. 1275 01:13:51,052 --> 01:13:53,178 You do expect surprises... 1276 01:13:53,263 --> 01:13:56,098 and to be ready and open-minded for surprises... 1277 01:13:56,182 --> 01:13:59,685 the shocking fact that he did this... 1278 01:13:59,769 --> 01:14:01,854 and you might also have the shocking fact... 1279 01:14:01,938 --> 01:14:03,939 that there was some extenuating circumstances... 1280 01:14:04,024 --> 01:14:06,025 or some reason why he was innocent. 1281 01:14:06,109 --> 01:14:08,111 So you're ready for that kind of possibility, 1282 01:14:08,112 --> 01:14:10,112 but I thought he might get the chair. 1283 01:14:11,281 --> 01:14:13,532 I remember rushing out of the courtroom... 1284 01:14:13,617 --> 01:14:15,576 and the news was on line, waiting for the verdict. 1285 01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:18,871 I remember thinking to myself, "Try to look like you're not so shocked." 1286 01:14:18,955 --> 01:14:21,373 Jeannine Yeoman's right here. What is it? 1287 01:14:21,458 --> 01:14:25,544 Yes, the jury has found Dan White guilty of voluntary manslaughter... 1288 01:14:25,629 --> 01:14:29,381 in the killings of both George Moscone and Harvey Milk. 1289 01:14:29,466 --> 01:14:34,219 That's a verdict that carries two, three, or four years on each of those counts. 1290 01:14:34,304 --> 01:14:36,305 He also could receive two years each... 1291 01:14:36,389 --> 01:14:38,599 for using a gun in the commission of the crime. 1292 01:14:38,683 --> 01:14:40,851 And once again to repeat... 1293 01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:44,647 that is the verdicts that White's attorney, Doug Schmidt, had asked the jury to return. 1294 01:14:44,731 --> 01:14:48,734 Dan White could now receive anywhere from four to 12 years in prison... 1295 01:14:48,818 --> 01:14:51,278 with a possibility of parole after... 1296 01:14:51,363 --> 01:14:54,406 We have received word that a demonstration has been called... 1297 01:14:54,491 --> 01:14:57,660 for 8:00 this evening in front of City Hall... 1298 01:14:57,744 --> 01:15:00,287 to protest the Dan White verdict. 1299 01:15:00,372 --> 01:15:04,124 I was really outraged, and I... 1300 01:15:04,209 --> 01:15:06,251 was going to go down to City Hall... 1301 01:15:06,336 --> 01:15:08,420 and I didn't go to City Hall... 1302 01:15:08,505 --> 01:15:11,757 because I had to run home to take care of our kids. 1303 01:15:11,841 --> 01:15:13,884 But I had this strong sense. 1304 01:15:13,968 --> 01:15:16,261 I said, "Someone has to say something." 1305 01:15:16,346 --> 01:15:20,182 That's our justice system. He got away with it. Eight years. 1306 01:15:20,266 --> 01:15:23,227 If you kill a public official... Especially if I did. What would I get? 1307 01:15:23,311 --> 01:15:27,398 I'm an old lady. I won't be here very much longer. 1308 01:15:27,482 --> 01:15:31,443 And I would not like to be here and see him walking the streets. 1309 01:15:31,528 --> 01:15:35,072 - You don't want him to get out? - No. After killing two men, no. 1310 01:15:35,156 --> 01:15:38,283 It was a challenge to your own personal value system. 1311 01:15:38,368 --> 01:15:40,495 You know, politically correct... "I'm against 1312 01:15:40,496 --> 01:15:42,621 capital punishment. I mean, my goodness." 1313 01:15:42,706 --> 01:15:45,124 And then all of a sudden, all you want is blood revenge. 1314 01:15:45,208 --> 01:15:47,292 Certain people who were considered leaders... 1315 01:15:47,377 --> 01:15:49,336 certain men and women of the gay community who were saying... 1316 01:15:49,421 --> 01:15:52,423 "Now, now, calm down. Justice will be served." 1317 01:15:52,507 --> 01:15:55,592 I went, "Oh, come on! Stop it! Stop it!" 1318 01:15:55,677 --> 01:15:59,138 "City Hall, City Hall, City Hall!" It was like a beat, a rhythm. 1319 01:15:59,222 --> 01:16:02,099 And going down Market Street, disrupting traffic. 1320 01:16:02,183 --> 01:16:05,644 We want justice! We want justice! 1321 01:16:05,729 --> 01:16:09,148 We want justice! 1322 01:16:09,232 --> 01:16:14,528 He got away with murder! He got away with murder! 1323 01:16:14,612 --> 01:16:19,324 We want justice! We want justice! 1324 01:16:19,409 --> 01:16:22,161 Remember Harvey Milk! Remember Harvey Milk! 1325 01:16:22,245 --> 01:16:25,414 Dan White's a pig! Dan White's a pig! 1326 01:16:25,498 --> 01:16:27,875 Dan White's a pig! 1327 01:16:27,959 --> 01:16:31,670 The people united will never be defeated! The people united... 1328 01:16:34,799 --> 01:16:37,050 ...almost an uncontrollable situation. 1329 01:16:37,135 --> 01:16:41,847 Find out if you've got any more squads. Send me more help. 1330 01:16:41,931 --> 01:16:43,849 No more violence! 1331 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:47,352 No more violence! No more violence! 1332 01:16:51,065 --> 01:16:53,901 By about 11:20, things had gone from good to bad... 1333 01:16:53,985 --> 01:16:55,903 to good and to very bad. 1334 01:16:55,987 --> 01:16:58,655 There's a narrow perimeter of shaky policemen... 1335 01:16:58,782 --> 01:17:01,241 on my left over here in front of City Hall. 1336 01:17:01,326 --> 01:17:04,661 Behind them, and sometimes in the midst of them, are the demonstrators. 1337 01:17:04,788 --> 01:17:07,790 Every once in a while, a demonstrator, a protestor, will come out of the crowd... 1338 01:17:07,916 --> 01:17:11,043 throw a piece of burning material into a police car, and start it on fire. 1339 01:17:30,688 --> 01:17:33,398 You'll get a brick in your head! You'll never know what hit you! 1340 01:17:33,483 --> 01:17:35,692 If you look right away, you can see it coming and get out of the way. 1341 01:17:40,532 --> 01:17:42,574 What we have tonight is a... 1342 01:17:42,659 --> 01:17:45,202 a mob out of control, and I think it's a tragedy. 1343 01:17:45,328 --> 01:17:47,830 I think it's gonna set, uh, back... 1344 01:17:47,956 --> 01:17:51,667 the, uh, fight for human rights a great deal. 1345 01:17:51,793 --> 01:17:55,170 And I must tell you that if persons are arrested... 1346 01:17:55,296 --> 01:17:57,047 for the crimes that have been committed tonight... 1347 01:17:57,173 --> 01:17:59,591 my office is gonna prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. 1348 01:17:59,676 --> 01:18:01,969 If you remember, the violence that started all this... 1349 01:18:02,053 --> 01:18:04,096 was Dan White's violence. 1350 01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:07,182 I feel that the jury was violent this afternoon... 1351 01:18:07,308 --> 01:18:11,061 by treating Dan White in a way that nobody's ever gonna believe... 1352 01:18:11,187 --> 01:18:14,022 they would have treated a black person or a gay person... 1353 01:18:14,107 --> 01:18:17,192 or someone who did not fit Dan's type image. 1354 01:18:17,318 --> 01:18:19,570 They were saying that the spirit of Dan White... 1355 01:18:19,696 --> 01:18:21,697 with all of its pettiness, all of its meanness... 1356 01:18:21,823 --> 01:18:25,033 and all of its violence right below the surface is okay... 1357 01:18:25,118 --> 01:18:28,620 and in so doing were very violently attacking... 1358 01:18:28,705 --> 01:18:31,498 the memory of George Moscone and Harvey Milk. 1359 01:18:31,583 --> 01:18:35,794 We are reacting with anger because we are angry. 1360 01:19:22,967 --> 01:19:25,469 People were outraged because it was property. 1361 01:19:25,595 --> 01:19:29,806 You know, this great institution of the free world... We dared! 1362 01:19:29,933 --> 01:19:33,769 You can replace a goddamned glass door. You can replace a chandelier, right? 1363 01:19:33,853 --> 01:19:36,939 You can replace a police car. But you can't replace Harvey. 1364 01:19:44,489 --> 01:19:47,324 Feeling the rage and the, the, the... 1365 01:19:47,408 --> 01:19:49,409 the extreme emotions... 1366 01:19:49,494 --> 01:19:51,662 that seemed to be coming from all of those folks... 1367 01:19:51,788 --> 01:19:53,789 I was right with 'em. 1368 01:19:53,915 --> 01:19:56,708 I was right with 'em in saying I... you know... 1369 01:19:57,961 --> 01:20:00,128 "There is no justice here today... 1370 01:20:00,254 --> 01:20:02,297 and anything that we do is absolutely fine." 1371 01:20:02,382 --> 01:20:04,424 And then I thought... 1372 01:20:04,509 --> 01:20:06,885 "You know, that's not it. That's not the way." 1373 01:20:06,970 --> 01:20:11,390 And something of a bit of a cooler head came upon me. 1374 01:20:11,474 --> 01:20:13,517 I guess I thought about Harvey... 1375 01:20:13,643 --> 01:20:15,644 who had said many times that he didn't want violence... 1376 01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:18,313 to follow in the footsteps of anything that happened to him. 1377 01:20:36,708 --> 01:20:39,459 What the verdict did... 1378 01:20:39,544 --> 01:20:44,172 to our sensitivity was to say... 1379 01:20:44,298 --> 01:20:48,677 "You know, it's not important to be civil in American society. 1380 01:20:48,803 --> 01:20:51,888 And it's not important to honor other people's right... 1381 01:20:52,015 --> 01:20:54,016 as long as you are white... 1382 01:20:54,142 --> 01:20:58,395 and you uphold certain white, middle-class values... 1383 01:20:58,521 --> 01:21:01,940 because you're gonna get away with murder. You're gonna be condoned." 1384 01:21:02,025 --> 01:21:07,571 I think if it had just been Moscone that got killed... 1385 01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:09,698 I think he would have been guilty of murder... 1386 01:21:09,824 --> 01:21:13,452 and been in San Quentin the rest of his life. 1387 01:21:13,536 --> 01:21:18,373 But sad to say, I think there's a lot of people in this world... 1388 01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:21,793 that still think if you kill a gay... 1389 01:21:21,878 --> 01:21:23,920 you're doin' a service to society. 1390 01:21:24,047 --> 01:21:26,048 I think I'd have felt that way too... 1391 01:21:26,132 --> 01:21:30,218 if I hadn't been associated with Harvey and the gay community. 1392 01:21:30,303 --> 01:21:32,387 I probably would have felt the same way. 1393 01:21:32,513 --> 01:21:36,308 'Cause up till that time, I thought that a guy that was gay was just... 1394 01:21:37,310 --> 01:21:39,311 He's not, uh... 1395 01:21:39,395 --> 01:21:41,438 You know, he's not us. 1396 01:21:41,564 --> 01:21:46,026 And I remember when I used to hear about... 1397 01:21:46,110 --> 01:21:49,488 the cops would go into gay bars years ago and rough up the gays... 1398 01:21:49,572 --> 01:21:51,615 and I thought, "What's wrong with that?" 1399 01:21:51,741 --> 01:21:54,743 You know? "That's, that's okay." 1400 01:21:56,287 --> 01:21:58,371 And I think the majority of people felt that way... 1401 01:21:58,456 --> 01:22:00,499 and I think a lot of people still feel the same way. 1402 01:22:00,583 --> 01:22:02,501 And it's a shame. 1403 01:22:03,586 --> 01:22:08,924 Dan White was released from prison on January 7, 1984. 1404 01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:11,259 He served 5 1/2 years... 1405 01:22:11,344 --> 01:22:15,222 and received no psychiatric treatment in prison. 1406 01:22:20,686 --> 01:22:23,605 Somewheres in Des Moines or San Antonio... 1407 01:22:23,689 --> 01:22:25,899 there's a young gay person... 1408 01:22:25,983 --> 01:22:29,236 who all of a sudden realizes that she or he is gay... 1409 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,155 knows that if their parents find out... 1410 01:22:32,281 --> 01:22:34,282 they'll be tossed out of the house. 1411 01:22:34,367 --> 01:22:37,452 The classmates would taunt the child... 1412 01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:41,039 and the Anita Bryants and John Briggs are doing their bit on TV. 1413 01:22:41,124 --> 01:22:44,501 And that child had several options: 1414 01:22:44,627 --> 01:22:47,420 staying in the closet, suicide... 1415 01:22:47,505 --> 01:22:50,465 and then one day that child might open up a paper and it says... 1416 01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:52,843 "Homosexual elected in San Francisco"... 1417 01:22:52,969 --> 01:22:54,803 and there are two new options. 1418 01:22:54,929 --> 01:22:57,305 One option is to go to California... 1419 01:23:02,645 --> 01:23:05,522 ...or stay in San Antonio and fight. 1420 01:23:05,648 --> 01:23:08,984 Two days after I was elected, I got a phone call... 1421 01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:11,570 and the voice was quite young. 1422 01:23:11,654 --> 01:23:14,656 It was from Altoona, Pennsylvania. 1423 01:23:14,740 --> 01:23:17,826 And the person said, "Thanks." 1424 01:23:17,952 --> 01:23:21,204 And you've got to elect gay people... 1425 01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:24,207 so that that young child, and the thousands upon thousands... 1426 01:23:24,333 --> 01:23:26,960 like that child... 1427 01:23:27,044 --> 01:23:30,589 know that there's hope for a better world... 1428 01:23:30,673 --> 01:23:32,883 there's hope for a better tomorrow. 1429 01:23:33,009 --> 01:23:36,261 Without hope, not only gays, but those blacks... 1430 01:23:37,513 --> 01:23:39,181 and the Asians... 1431 01:23:39,307 --> 01:23:43,351 and the disabled, the seniors... the "us's." 1432 01:23:44,896 --> 01:23:48,857 The "us's." Without hope, the "us's" give up. 1433 01:23:48,941 --> 01:23:51,860 I know that you cannot live on hope alone... 1434 01:23:51,944 --> 01:23:54,821 but without it life is not worth living. 1435 01:23:54,906 --> 01:23:58,950 And you, and you, and you... 1436 01:23:59,035 --> 01:24:02,120 have gotta give 'em hope. Thank you very much.125388

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