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gentle music
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[Attell] I love this club.
It's The Comedy Store, guys.
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Legendary.
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[cheers and applause]
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Some of you don't know it,
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but I'll say it right now.
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Jeff, you know this place
is haunted, right?
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I've heard that, actually.
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Yeah, my career died here
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about ten years ago, so...
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[Binder] It was 40 years ago
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that I spent
almost every night of my life
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on these stages.
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- Hello.
- [piano riff plays]
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Wait, start it up.
[chuckles]
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Sorry about that.
I was late
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'cause, uh, I had to kill
a guy.
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[laughter]
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I left Detroit
right after high school
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and came out here,
got a job as a doorman,
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fought for stage time,
and worked my way up.
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I had lied and told my parents
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I was going
to LA Community College,
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but this was my college,
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my springboard into a career
as a comic,
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then an actor,
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then a writer and a director.
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Like hundreds and hundreds
of others
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before me and after me,
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these rooms and these hallways
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were a magical gateway
to show business
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to anyone with a comic bent.
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This building was
what I called home
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for many, many years.
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I'm going through a breakup
next week.
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- [laughter]
- Yeah.
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My boyfriend tried to talk shit
on that joke.
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He came up to me.
He's like,
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"I don't like that joke."
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I was like,
"Well, a little awkward.
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It's not about you."
Like...
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[Jeselnik]
Like a lot of guys,
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I'll always remember
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the one time I saw
my dad's penis.
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I said, "Dad, don't text me
shit like that."
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[Binder] It's amazing
to be back
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at The Comedy Store
all these years later,
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to see it so hot again,
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to see a new generation
of comedians
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with the same passion
that I and all my friends had.
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contemplative music
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Marc Maron was a comic
at the Store
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a few years after I was there.
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When his career
was going nowhere,
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he started a podcast
in his garage that became
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one of the most successful
podcasts in the world.
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My being a guest
on WTF with Marc Maron
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is the thing that reunited me
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with The Comedy Store
in the first place.
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But did you get here
when it first opened?
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No.
Uh, the Store first opened
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in '72.
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- Sammy Shore opened it.
- [Maron] Sammy, okay.
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- Mitzi's husband, right.
- [Binder] Yes.
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And he's
a big Vegas opening act.
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He opened for Elvis,
Barbra Streisand,
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- people like that.
- [Maron] Right, right, right.
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- Sammy Shore is...
- [Binder] Sammy Shore.
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And they were married
at the time.
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[Binder] They had four kids.
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[Maron] Sandy, Scotty,
Pauly, and Peter.
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[Binder] Peter.
And they live up
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in Dorothy Lamour's
old house up on Doheny.
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[Maron]
She kept that house forever.
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[Binder] He opens it
with his buddy, Rudy De Luca,
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who's a big feature writer.
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He opens the Store in '72.
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- Yeah, they rent a room...
- [Maron] Right.
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[Binder] ...in what was--
used to be Ciro's nightclub,
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where Humphrey Bogart
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and George Raft
and Peter Lorre...
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[Maron] And Danny Thomas.
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[Binder] ...and
Sammy Davis Jr.,
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It was so big
that Warner Brothers
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used to do cartoons
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based on all their stars
going there.
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- [Maron] Yeah.
- [Binder] And it was now
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just, like,
a Mexican discotheque
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run by Art Laboe, and he--
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he rented out
the front room to Sammy.
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And it was just
a hangout club for comedians
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who--there was no lineup.
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He would just throw
whoever was there
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up on stage.
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He would go to Vegas,
and Mitzi would run the club.
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Mitzi actually was the one
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that came up with the name
The Comedy Store.
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[Maron] I heard that, like,
you know, he was
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away on the road,
and she wanted to leave him,
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and she just took it over.
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[Binder] Yeah. They end up
having a bad divorce.
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- [Maron] Right.
- [Binder] She didn't want
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alimony; she said,
"Just give me the club."
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He's laughing about it!
He--really?
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- [Maron] Yeah.
- [Binder] And she says yeah,
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'cause she loves
the comedians.
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- [Maron] Yeah.
- [Binder] And the comedians
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love her, and she has
this affinity for them.
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- [Maron] Yeah.
- [Binder] And she turned it
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into something huge.
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- [Maron] Mecca.
- [Binder] Mecca for comedians.
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[Maron] You have to go
through--you have to jump
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through the hurdles;
you gotta enter the system.
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- You gotta be a doorman.
- [Binder] Y-yeah.
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[Maron] You gotta listen
to what she says
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to you and about you
and take her advice...
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- [Binder] Right.
- And work for no money.
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[Binder] Yeah,
but the system worked.
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She changed the way
comedy was presented.
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Before her, stand-up comics
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didn't follow each other
on a show.
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It was always a singer
or a juggler
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in between the comics.
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No one thought
you could just throw
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one comic after another
up on stage,
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but Mitzi did it, and soon,
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other clubs and then
TV shows did it.
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She went through hell, though.
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The old owners threw her
out of her building.
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She had to figure out
a way to buy it,
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even though she didn't have
the money.
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She passed away
a couple years ago,
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but the Store is her legacy.
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It's the epicenter
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of stand-up comedy
in the world.
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Ask any working comedian
anywhere
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which club means the most
in terms of bragging rights
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to say you're a regular in.
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Hands down,
it's The Comedy Store.
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spacey music
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First time I ever heard
of The Comedy Store,
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I think I watched a special.
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When I saw it, I go,
"This is where I gotta be.
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The Comedy Store."
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I drove by it in '94,
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and I was on a vacation
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just to see where it was, and
I'd already been doing comedy
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for, like, two years,
and I remember thinking,
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"Someday,
I'm gonna play there."
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If I actually could just not
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have a temper,
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like, I don't even know
what my wife
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would be able
to complain about,
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'cause that's really
all she has on me.
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I work my ass off,
I make a great living,
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I'm a great dad,
I do the dishes,
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I like cleaning up,
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I fucking handle shit,
you know?
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All she has on me
is who I am as a person.
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That's it.
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[Letterman] Within two weeks
of coming out here,
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I showed up on a Monday night
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and went on stage,
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petrified,
blinded by the light,
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and did okay, not--not great.
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I had no material.
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It was at that point
that Mitzi said,
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[accented] "Oh, you should--
you're from Indiana.
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I'm from Wisconsin."
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I said, "Yeah, I recognize
the Lower Great Lakes accent."
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She said,
"You should come back,"
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and so I said, "Great!"
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I drove home,
and I thought, "Wow,
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this is
a personal breakthrough."
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The next week, I came back,
there was a list of people,
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and my name wasn't on it,
and I'm thinking,
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"I think she said
I should come back,"
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and then finally,
my friend George said,
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"Dumbass, you have to call in,
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and they'll give you a time."
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I spent one entire week
kind of...
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[meekly] "Oh, I guess
they don't want me."
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[Cummings] I wanted to be
a part of this place so badly
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that I looked
for apartments
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that were close
to The Comedy Store
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that I could walk to.
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Today was kind of humiliating.
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I, uh--I ran
into my ex-boyfriend
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in the self-help section
of the bookstore.
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And, like, it's just--
I should've known
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he was gonna be
at the bookstore,
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you know,
'cause I followed him there.
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[Rock] I had a good set.
Mitzi automatically liked me.
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I think part of it,
she liked me,
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and part of it is she wanted
someone in the club
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that was Pauly's age.
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This did not endear me
to the comedians.
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[laughs]
Comedians like,
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"Who the fuck is this guy?"
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[Binder] What was so special
about the Store?
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This was a beam.
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This--this was a beam
from the center of the Earth
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to infinite space.
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Many dared step in the beam,
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and only a few could handle it,
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but when you--it--
you know, when it--
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when it worked, man,
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there was just nothing
like this place.
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One of the main things I wanted
when I came out here was
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to get my name on The Comedy
Store on the outside,
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'cause that would make me feel
like I was a comic.
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[Williams] You could come
out here
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and talk about stuff
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that was so bleak,
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but yet so funny.
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Maybe it's 'cause
the room is black.
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I don't know.
You can get away with it.
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I don't even know what
the idea is
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behind the black.
Never questioned it.
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Didn't care.
I just thought maybe it makes
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the writing stand out
in the front.
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I always liken The Comedy Store
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to, like, an abusive boyfriend.
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You're like, "Oh, my God,
this hurts so much.
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Why do I stay?"
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And then when you leave,
you're like,
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"Oh, my God, I miss him
so much.
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Like, I need him."
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I've been doing stand-up
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for about seven years,
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and I came
to The Comedy Store,
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and it was scary.
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Guys that are legit headliners,
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legit successful
at this business,
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nervous as shit
in that hallway.
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I think they would murder
anyone in the world
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to put that OR,
that jewel, in your crown.
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I started washing dishes
back there,
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and then one night,
I was working
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on open mic night,
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and I thought,
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"I think I can do it."
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I had walked on stage
last night, and I go,
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"Do you guys realize what--
the show you're getting?
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Just take a moment
to, like, be grateful,
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because this lineup is nuts!"
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It's nuts.
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I mean, if you added up
the ticket price
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of each of these people
on the road,
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this is thousands of dollars
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for this ticket
that you're seeing tonight.
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So I've been addicted
to this game on my phone.
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It's this game where you,
like, set up--
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everyone that sets up, like,
their avatar,
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and then they set up,
like a profile,
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and then they just try
to kill each other.
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It's called Twitter.
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I don't think that there's
a single building in America
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that has affected culture more
than the Store.
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The list of people...
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Richard Pryor,
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arguably
the greatest comedian ever,
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home base.
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Kinison, home base.
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Dice, home base.
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Comedy culture writ large.
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Letterman, home base.
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Leno, home base.
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So I fly to LA, and I've got
some money in my pocket,
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and I--I land, and I say
to the cab driver,
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"Take me to the Sunset Strip."
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And he said,
"How much money you got?"
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and I said, "I got 50 bucks."
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So he drops me at Western
and Sunset,
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which is, like, nine miles
from here, you know?
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Now I have, like,
20 bucks left,
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so I walk, like, nine miles,
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and I get here.
I don't know anybody.
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I mean, I knew some comics,
kind of, a little bit.
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And for the first week,
I slept on the back stairs
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here at The Comedy Store.
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I'd just go back there
and lie down,
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roll up my jacket...
[snores]
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...you know, wake up
in the morning.
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But I was in show business!
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[Anderson] I think
that we had a fraternity.
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We were completely absorbed
by comedy.
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I didn't think
about anything else,
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except maybe
the Popeye's chicken
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or other chicken.
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[Binder] When we got out here,
Mitzi was basically a mom
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with three kids at home...
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- Yeah.
- ...and a son
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that had graduated college,
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and she was running
a nightclub,
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and she loved comedians.
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And she was funny as hell,
and she loved to laugh.
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How does it feel to be
the lady who's responsible
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for Jimmie Walker,
David Letterman,
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Robin Williams--I mean,
you give these guys
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a gym to work out in.
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How does it feel to see
these guys come through?
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They're... come on, Arsenio.
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Give me a better question.
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[laughs]
Okay, okay.
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What kind of coat
is that you're wearing?
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[laughs]
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She would look at you
on open mic night,
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and all she would do
is just look at you
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for your charisma on stage.
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She didn't care a bit
about your jokes.
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She was honest
about what she felt.
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That's the one thing
that I appreciate.
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If she didn't like you,
she just told you
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she didn't like you.
You know?
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There was no beating
around the bush.
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It was
[nasally] "I don't like him.
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I like her.
She's weird."
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- [Binder] Yeah.
- And you have to be.
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This doesn't happen
without honesty.
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I wanna take you
to Mitzi's office.
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No one has been in there
since about 2008.
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She walked in there
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the last time
she set her pen down,
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and they locked the door,
and no one goes in there.
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[Maron]
It's like Capone's vault.
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We don't know what's in there.
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And with--those were never up.
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No, they were never up.
330
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It was always dark
and red in here.
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Oh, look at her.
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That's me, Argus, Mitzi,
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and Lotus Weinstock.
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[Maron] Oh, Lotus!
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[Binder] Look at this.
Pryor Offenses.
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It's a pilot
that Richard Pryor wrote.
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Look, this is the crystal ball
she used to curse all of us.
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"Maron will never become
a big comic
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unless he completely loses
everything."
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She'd come up here on Mondays,
and she'd write the...
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- Schedule, yeah.
- ...the schedule.
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- For the week.
- And she took it so serious.
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Let's start
Karen Snow.
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9:10, Dave Duggan.
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and have Sparky
the last up, see?
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[Maron] Why did it become
such a big deal?
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What makes the Store such a--
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a big deal in--you know,
initially?
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Was it just being on Sunset?
350
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Well, no, actually,
what really made the Store huge
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was--was a guy in New York.
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- [Maron] Yeah.
- Kind of a middle-aged guy.
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Had a--had a midlife crisis,
354
00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:02,156
and he wanted to move
to California,
355
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sit on the beach,
and go to parties,
356
00:13:04,074 --> 00:13:07,536
so he moved his talk show
to California, to Burbank,
357
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and his name was Johnny Carson.
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[fanfare playing]
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[announcer] From New York,
the world's fair city,
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The Tonight Show
Starring Johnny Carson.
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[Mandel] The litmus test
for being a comedian,
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a professional comedian
in our day and age
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was The Tonight Show.
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You can't describe
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what it was like in 1975.
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Wherever you went in America,
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people say,
"What do you do for a living?"
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Say, "I'm a stand-up comedian."
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The next question
out of their mouth...
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They go,
"Were you on Johnny Carson ?"
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There were a lot of people
who lived in New York
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because that's how you got on,
uh, The Tonight Show.
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In 1972, it moved out here
to the West Coast.
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The Comedy Store opened up
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right around that same time.
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Wasn't long after when Mitzi
took over this place.
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00:13:46,116 --> 00:13:47,827
All the coordinators came here.
378
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This next gentleman
has been the, uh--
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the emcee or the host comedian
for the past couple of years
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at a place
called The Comedy Store.
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And they would hear that.
You know.
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"Ah, the Carson show,
Comedy Store in Los Angeles.
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I gotta go there."
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00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:01,507
[Carson] You're in a good mood
for comedy tonight.
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00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:03,008
Would you welcome, please,
Argus Hamilton?
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00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:04,510
- Argus?
- [applause]
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00:14:04,552 --> 00:14:06,011
[Hamilton] I'm sitting there
in Norman, Oklahoma,
388
00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:07,763
and it dawns on me
like the light
389
00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:10,975
hitting Saul
on the road to Damascus.
390
00:14:11,016 --> 00:14:12,434
I'm not gonna have
to go to New York.
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00:14:12,476 --> 00:14:14,019
As I drove out here
to California,
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I knew I was here to stay.
393
00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:16,355
I saw it on the state border.
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00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:18,190
The sign said,
"Welcome to California.
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00:14:18,232 --> 00:14:20,901
Do not back up.
Severe tire damage."
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00:14:20,943 --> 00:14:23,195
You know, why most of us
came out here
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00:14:23,237 --> 00:14:25,906
was because Carson moved
out here.
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00:14:25,948 --> 00:14:27,408
So I said, "Let me get
in the car
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00:14:27,449 --> 00:14:30,703
and drive out to California
and go to The Comedy Store.
400
00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:32,037
I heard about it on TV."
401
00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:33,706
I didn't even have an image
402
00:14:33,747 --> 00:14:37,585
of what a store of comedy
would look like.
403
00:14:37,626 --> 00:14:38,919
I came out here
almost on a whim.
404
00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:40,462
I didn't think I'd stay.
405
00:14:40,504 --> 00:14:42,256
But I knew
about The Comedy Store.
406
00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:44,550
And I knew, also,
if you were successful,
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00:14:44,592 --> 00:14:46,886
the next stop
was The Tonight Show.
408
00:14:46,927 --> 00:14:50,222
There had been this sort
of invisible migration
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00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:51,974
of class clowns.
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00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,392
[Letterman] The Comedy Store
became
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like AAA baseball.
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00:14:54,852 --> 00:14:56,228
You know,
the Indianapolis Indians
413
00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:57,980
used to be affiliated
with the Cleveland Indians,
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00:14:58,022 --> 00:14:59,565
and it was like
The Comedy Store
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00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:00,733
and The Tonight Show.
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00:15:00,774 --> 00:15:02,151
We have a new young comedian
with us tonight,
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00:15:02,192 --> 00:15:03,777
and this gentleman--
his name is Freddie Prinze.
418
00:15:03,819 --> 00:15:04,945
He's just 19 years old.
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00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,238
Would you welcome
Freddie Prinze?
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00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,489
[Dark] When Freddie Prinze
came out
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00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:09,116
and he did
that first Tonight Show,
422
00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:11,368
it just shocked us all,
because it--
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00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:14,121
it just stamped him
as being a star.
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00:15:14,163 --> 00:15:16,457
I come from two backgrounds,
Hungarian and Puerto Rican.
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00:15:16,498 --> 00:15:18,417
- [audience member cheers]
- [cheers]
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00:15:18,459 --> 00:15:19,960
I'm a Hunga-rican.
427
00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:22,838
[laughter]
428
00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,424
It's like a very heavy title,
'cause I could never figure out
429
00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,718
how my parents met,
a Gypsy and a Puerto Rican.
430
00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,677
I asked my mother.
431
00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:29,845
She said
they were on the subway,
432
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,889
trying to pick
each other's pocket.
433
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,933
Most people think all we do
is stand on street corners,
434
00:15:33,974 --> 00:15:36,769
going [makes kissing noise]
"Hey, baby!
435
00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:39,229
[heavily accented]
What, you can't talk with me?
436
00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:40,898
I don't need you
if you conceited."
437
00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,733
You know.
438
00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:44,610
[Leno] Sammy Davis
was on the panel,
439
00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:47,279
and Sammy was like
the greatest audience member.
440
00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:49,782
I mean, literally--
I mean, pounding the table,
441
00:15:49,823 --> 00:15:52,451
"Call that brother over."
You know, and he sits down,
442
00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:54,912
and he literally became
an overnight sensation.
443
00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:56,080
[Carson] You're gonna do
fine, really.
444
00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,498
A lot of people started
on this show,
445
00:15:57,539 --> 00:15:59,291
and you can always sense
when there's something there
446
00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:00,918
that the audience likes them
right away.
447
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,754
Johnny Carson was like
the law of comedy.
448
00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:05,881
He said, "This is the way
it is,
449
00:16:05,923 --> 00:16:07,633
this is the way it's gonna be,"
450
00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:10,844
and everybody--Carlin, Richard,
451
00:16:10,886 --> 00:16:13,263
Steve Martin,
Albert Brooks--
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00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:14,640
they all got in line.
453
00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:16,558
Time for the news.
I'm Gary Mule Deer.
454
00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,478
These are some of the stories
making tonight's headlines.
455
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,146
Elizabeth Taylor went off
her diet today
456
00:16:21,188 --> 00:16:22,481
and devoured the centerpiece
457
00:16:22,523 --> 00:16:24,650
at a Democratic fundraiser
in Cleveland.
458
00:16:24,692 --> 00:16:27,319
And Chrysler blows
the whole check in Las Vegas.
459
00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:29,530
Those stories in a moment.
460
00:16:29,571 --> 00:16:31,490
Hi.
461
00:16:31,532 --> 00:16:32,574
You guys are great.
462
00:16:32,616 --> 00:16:35,035
I don't ever want
to forget this show.
463
00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:37,204
Incredible.
464
00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:42,001
David Brenner always said
to me,
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00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,211
"When you go on and do
that 5 1/2 minutes,
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00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,922
it'll be like selling out
The Comedy Store
467
00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:49,174
three shows a night
for 50 years.
468
00:16:49,216 --> 00:16:50,801
That's how many people
are gonna be watching you,
469
00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,303
so you better fucking take
every shot seriously."
470
00:16:53,345 --> 00:16:56,056
This became the hottest place
in the world in the '70s.
471
00:16:56,098 --> 00:16:58,267
Comedy was the rock and roll
of the '70s.
472
00:16:58,308 --> 00:16:59,935
Every night, somebody
was getting discovered.
473
00:16:59,977 --> 00:17:01,812
Would you welcome him, please,
on his first appearance?
474
00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:02,730
Tom Dreesen.
475
00:17:02,771 --> 00:17:05,983
[upbeat music playing]
476
00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:07,067
Would you welcome
Mr. David Brenner?
477
00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:08,277
When I first did television,
478
00:17:08,318 --> 00:17:09,486
which was this show...
479
00:17:09,528 --> 00:17:10,863
Every comedian
480
00:17:10,904 --> 00:17:12,489
remembers their birthday
481
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,450
and the first time they did
The Tonight Show.
482
00:17:14,491 --> 00:17:16,285
Now I'm sitting on a subway,
and I'm all excited.
483
00:17:16,326 --> 00:17:17,661
The night before, I was
on The Tonight Show.
484
00:17:17,703 --> 00:17:19,580
You know, I'm real excited.
I'm sitting there.
485
00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:22,708
And a man seated across from me
looks at me,
486
00:17:22,750 --> 00:17:24,043
and he goes like this.
He looks at me.
487
00:17:24,084 --> 00:17:26,879
He goes, "Ooh.
488
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,465
You're funny."
489
00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:31,258
And I said, "Thank you,"
you know, real loud
490
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,801
so everyone in the car
could hear me
491
00:17:32,843 --> 00:17:33,844
because come on, I was proud.
492
00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:34,803
The man saw me the night before
493
00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:35,679
on The Tonight Show,
494
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:37,473
and he recognized me.
495
00:17:37,514 --> 00:17:39,349
And then, about a minute later,
he turned
496
00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:40,976
to the woman next to me,
and he said to her,
497
00:17:41,018 --> 00:17:43,103
"Ooh, you're funny."
498
00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:45,606
[laughter]
499
00:17:45,647 --> 00:17:47,357
[applause]
500
00:17:47,399 --> 00:17:51,195
I swear, he said it
to everyone in the train,
501
00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:52,654
and I was, like, the only idiot
502
00:17:52,696 --> 00:17:54,573
who stood up and said,
"Thank you very much."
503
00:17:54,615 --> 00:17:56,533
[Dreesen] You told your
whole family, all the papers
504
00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,202
back home are writing
about you, you're gonna make
505
00:17:58,243 --> 00:17:59,369
your first appearance
on The Tonight Show.
506
00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:03,415
I was so scared, I didn't
even look over at him.
507
00:18:03,457 --> 00:18:05,876
Everybody said, "Oh,
you should've looked at him,
508
00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:08,337
'cause he would've called you
over to sit on the panel,"
509
00:18:08,378 --> 00:18:10,380
but, uh, I looked the other way
510
00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:12,758
and got out of there
as fast as I could.
511
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,177
My grandfather was
an aviation pioneer.
512
00:18:15,219 --> 00:18:18,597
He was the first luggage clerk.
513
00:18:18,639 --> 00:18:22,434
He was the guy in Paris
who lost Lindbergh's luggage.
514
00:18:22,476 --> 00:18:24,561
[laughter]
515
00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:27,439
Tried to tell Lindbergh
it was on a different flight.
516
00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,568
[upbeat music playing]
517
00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:35,697
The point to remember here is,
though I love to drive,
518
00:18:35,739 --> 00:18:37,407
I just hate to stop,
519
00:18:37,449 --> 00:18:39,326
especially for pedestrians.
520
00:18:39,368 --> 00:18:40,702
But I do have a great solution.
521
00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:42,913
I find that if you just tie
some torn clothing
522
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,249
to your front bumper...
523
00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:47,584
- [chuckles]
- [laughter, applause]
524
00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:50,170
You can fairly breeze
through town.
525
00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:51,755
We'll be back.
526
00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:53,298
I couldn't believe
527
00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,301
that I didn't stumble
or fall down or...
528
00:18:56,343 --> 00:18:59,179
people just have no idea,
the pressure.
529
00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:00,389
And I can't tell you
how many times
530
00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:01,932
Jim McCawley,
who was the booker,
531
00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:03,392
showed up here, saw me,
532
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:05,310
not only told me
I wouldn't get the show--
533
00:19:05,352 --> 00:19:07,271
he said,
"You will never get the show.
534
00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:10,315
What you do, Howie,
is not Johnny's cup of tea."
535
00:19:10,357 --> 00:19:11,775
I love the comics
on The Tonight Show.
536
00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:12,901
I love The Tonight Show.
537
00:19:12,943 --> 00:19:14,444
I did everything
I was supposed to do,
538
00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:16,113
and I got said no to...
539
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:18,157
you can't get said no to
more times.
540
00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:19,491
Jim McCawley didn't like me.
541
00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:21,410
He said to me
a really hurtful thing.
542
00:19:21,451 --> 00:19:22,995
"You know, you're not
Tonight Show material."
543
00:19:23,036 --> 00:19:24,121
[Binder] And he was so wrong.
544
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,205
Would you welcome, please,
545
00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:26,874
Louie Anderson.
Louie?
546
00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:30,085
[band music playing]
547
00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:32,796
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you, everyone.
548
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:34,965
I can't stay long.
I'm in between meals,
549
00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:38,385
so bear with me.
550
00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,512
People say, "Louie,
why do you do those fat jokes?"
551
00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,097
'Cause if I didn't,
you guys would sit out there
552
00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:44,183
and go, "You think
he knows he's that big?"
553
00:19:44,224 --> 00:19:46,685
[laughter]
554
00:19:46,727 --> 00:19:49,563
Like I woke up one morning...
"Oh, no."
555
00:19:50,814 --> 00:19:52,900
That's a funny young kid.
556
00:19:52,941 --> 00:19:54,902
Louie, come on out here
and take another bow.
557
00:19:54,943 --> 00:19:56,111
Thank you very much.
558
00:19:56,153 --> 00:19:58,322
[cheers and applause]
559
00:19:58,363 --> 00:19:59,656
[Carson] Now, we originally
offered Byron
560
00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,950
a shot on The Tonight Show
last February,
561
00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:03,285
and he turned it down.
562
00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:04,494
He said he couldn't make it
that night
563
00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:05,621
'cause he had to do
his homework.
564
00:20:05,662 --> 00:20:07,039
True story.
565
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,957
So make him feel welcome,
would you?
566
00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,083
Byron Allen.
567
00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:12,461
[upbeat music playing]
568
00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:13,921
[Walker]
I always hire writers.
569
00:20:13,962 --> 00:20:15,297
They were all--not struggling,
570
00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:16,423
but they needed cash.
571
00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:19,384
The first show
that I sold him was, uh,
572
00:20:19,426 --> 00:20:20,636
the difference
between white people
573
00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:22,387
and black people
when they go to a movie.
574
00:20:22,429 --> 00:20:24,389
If white people don't like it,
they're very polite.
575
00:20:24,431 --> 00:20:26,225
"I'm not gonna recommend this
to my friends."
576
00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:27,351
Black people are like...
577
00:20:27,392 --> 00:20:29,269
"This movie was a bunch
of jive!"
578
00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:32,397
You know. "Give me
everybody's money back!"
579
00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:33,941
[Walker] He gets
to Tonight Show,
580
00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:36,401
and he calls me,
and he says,
581
00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:39,404
"I need my joke back."
[laughs]
582
00:20:39,446 --> 00:20:41,865
I got out here, and I talked
George Miller
583
00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,242
into buying a joke off me.
584
00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:44,618
What was the joke?
585
00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,578
I went to a really
drug-oriented high school,
586
00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:47,579
High High.
587
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:49,456
- [laughs]
- Okay?
588
00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:52,251
It's just an awful joke,
but he gave me 25 bucks.
589
00:20:52,292 --> 00:20:53,627
Yeah.
It's not an awful joke,
590
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:56,088
because that's
where George lived.
591
00:20:56,129 --> 00:20:57,673
You know.
A cow on speed.
592
00:20:57,714 --> 00:20:59,341
Can you imagine a cow on speed?
593
00:20:59,383 --> 00:21:00,968
That'd be neat, huh?
A cow on speed.
594
00:21:01,009 --> 00:21:02,844
Moo-moo-moo-moo-
moo-moo-moo.
595
00:21:03,178 --> 00:21:05,472
- I was two weeks out here.
- Yeah.
596
00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:07,766
And he did it on Johnny Carson,
597
00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:10,060
and I was able to call my dad
and say,
598
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:13,355
"Dad, the fourth joke in
is my joke."
599
00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:15,274
For you, that--
that must have been huge.
600
00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:16,483
Yeah, it was.
601
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:17,859
In those days,
it was make-or-break.
602
00:21:17,901 --> 00:21:21,363
If you didn't do well
on the first Tonight Show,
603
00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:22,656
you could go back to Indiana.
604
00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:24,491
You could go back
to Birmingham, Michigan.
605
00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:27,786
You could just, uh, live
in the cement river
606
00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:30,539
that runs through LA.
That would be it for you.
607
00:21:30,580 --> 00:21:32,291
The kind of thing
I'll always remember
608
00:21:32,332 --> 00:21:34,459
as long as I live
growing up in Indiana
609
00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:37,087
is when Dad used to tease me
with the power tools.
610
00:21:37,129 --> 00:21:38,964
How many of you...
611
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,799
did you have that?
612
00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:42,301
- What a guy.
- What a guy.
613
00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:44,678
- Sense of humor, huh?
- Yeah.
614
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,055
I have a feeling from your shot
on your show tonight,
615
00:21:47,097 --> 00:21:49,141
you're gonna be working a lot
outside of The Comedy Store.
616
00:21:49,182 --> 00:21:50,309
Dave loved Johnny.
617
00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:51,810
We'd stand in the back
and watch
618
00:21:51,852 --> 00:21:53,812
Dreesen's first Tonight Show,
then Dreesen and I watched
619
00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:55,397
his first Tonight Show
in the kitchen.
620
00:21:55,439 --> 00:21:56,523
Show business is a tough life,
621
00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:57,816
as some of you know.
622
00:21:57,858 --> 00:21:59,818
So if you liked me
and you're Protestant,
623
00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:01,528
do me a favor
and say a prayer for me.
624
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,947
If you're Catholic,
light a candle.
625
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,157
If you're Jewish,
626
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:06,408
somebody in your family
owns a nightclub.
627
00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:08,201
Tell them about me, will you?
628
00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:09,828
[Binder] I remember watching
George Miller
629
00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,330
on The Tonight Show
in the back.
630
00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:13,332
I remember watching
Argus's first Tonight Show.
631
00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:14,541
- Oh, 'cause we all--
- [Binder] It was, like,
632
00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:15,542
a black-and-white TV,
wasn't it?
633
00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:16,918
Yeah, absolutely, in the back.
634
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,295
It was a celebration
635
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:20,255
when one of our guys
was on The Tonight Show.
636
00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:22,257
And everyone would crowd around
637
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:24,134
and count all the laughter
638
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,094
and the applause breaks.
639
00:22:26,136 --> 00:22:27,596
It made everybody wanna...
640
00:22:27,637 --> 00:22:29,431
"Gotta get on it!
Gotta get on Johnny !"
641
00:22:29,473 --> 00:22:30,682
[Mandel] Joan Rivers
642
00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:32,601
was filling in
for Johnny Carson,
643
00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:35,395
and before she did
The Tonight Show every week,
644
00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:37,022
she would come here
to The Comedy Store
645
00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:39,358
like everybody did,
including Johnny himself.
646
00:22:39,399 --> 00:22:41,318
Before he was playing,
he would work out his act
647
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,819
in this room to go to Vegas.
648
00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:44,529
And I said, "Mitzi,
when's Joan coming in?
649
00:22:44,571 --> 00:22:46,281
and she goes, "She's gonna go
on at nine."
650
00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:47,574
And I said to Mitzi,
651
00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:49,284
"Is there any way
that you can put me on,
652
00:22:49,326 --> 00:22:51,453
like, at 8:45 or 8:50?"
653
00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:53,372
And she said, "Yeah,
I'll do that for you."
654
00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:55,499
I'm walking back,
and Joan passes me,
655
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,709
and she says,
"Very funny, young man."
656
00:22:57,751 --> 00:22:59,336
So I did
my very first Tonight Show
657
00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,712
with Joan Rivers.
658
00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:01,588
[laughter]
659
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,298
Okay, how many--
how many fingers
660
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,634
am I holding up?
661
00:23:05,675 --> 00:23:08,428
The next day, I got a call
from McCawley.
662
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:10,722
Johnny Carson
had been watching the show,
663
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:12,057
and he loved me,
664
00:23:12,099 --> 00:23:14,393
and he asked me to come on
two weeks later.
665
00:23:14,434 --> 00:23:16,144
Guess who this is.
Guess who this is.
666
00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:17,396
Take one guess.
667
00:23:17,437 --> 00:23:18,397
Ricardo Montalbán.
668
00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:20,107
No.
It's me.
669
00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:21,233
It's Howie.
670
00:23:21,274 --> 00:23:22,984
[laughter]
671
00:23:23,026 --> 00:23:25,904
upbeat music
672
00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:29,908
And I did it 22 times
with Johnny Carson,
673
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:31,284
and that made my career,
674
00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:32,577
and that would not
have happened
675
00:23:32,619 --> 00:23:34,913
without Mitzi, without Joan,
676
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,456
and without this room.
677
00:23:38,291 --> 00:23:39,459
[Binder] There were two things
678
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:40,919
that made The Comedy Store
blow up:
679
00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:42,921
The Tonight Show
and Jimmie Walker.
680
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,631
[Walker] She has a figure
that makes the number eight
681
00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:45,924
look like the number one,
682
00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:49,219
and a smile
that lights up the night,
683
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:53,140
and it all belongs to Kid...
[claps] Dyn-o-mite!
684
00:23:53,181 --> 00:23:54,599
[laughter, applause]
685
00:23:54,641 --> 00:23:56,184
[Baum] Jimmie Walker was
the first one
686
00:23:56,226 --> 00:23:58,687
that allowed Mitzi to put
his name up on the marquee.
687
00:23:58,728 --> 00:24:00,188
Freddie Prinze
would never let her
688
00:24:00,230 --> 00:24:01,898
put his name on the marquee
'cause he said,
689
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,525
"Well, if people could see me
here for five bucks,
690
00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,735
why are they gonna pay 50
to see me in Las Vegas?"
691
00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:07,404
When they put his name
out there on that marquee,
692
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,738
people would line up.
693
00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:10,282
The place was packed
all the time.
694
00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:12,159
The place went crazy.
695
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,618
And he'd come in
with his writers,
696
00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:15,495
which were David Letterman
and, you know, Jay Leno
697
00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:16,371
- and Gino...
- [Binder] Byron?
698
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,414
[Dark] ...and Byron Allen.
699
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:18,623
[Allen] I'd get a phone call,
700
00:24:18,665 --> 00:24:20,584
and on the other end
of the phone, this--
701
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,127
all of a sudden,
I hear this guy.
702
00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:24,421
He goes, "Is this Byron?
703
00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,131
I go, "Yeah, this is Byron."
704
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:27,424
He goes,
705
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,843
"This is Jimmie JJ Walker."
706
00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:31,720
[Binder] This is after you--
one time on stage?
707
00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:33,096
- One time on stage.
- [Binder] That's amazing.
708
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,014
Right?
One time.
709
00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:34,931
The place is magical.
710
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:36,308
Right?
The place is magical.
711
00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:40,020
So he goes, "My man Wayne Kline
says you're funny,
712
00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:42,272
and if my man Wayne Kline
says you're funny,
713
00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:43,523
then you're funny.
714
00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:45,525
Do you want to come
and hang out with us?"
715
00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:48,195
I said, "Yeah, let me ask
my mother."
716
00:24:48,236 --> 00:24:49,613
[laughs]
717
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:51,573
The reason I got guys
to write for me
718
00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:53,742
is because I did see
a lot of good guys
719
00:24:53,783 --> 00:24:56,828
that I felt maybe were
a little more talented than me,
720
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,623
and I needed to get
a little better.
721
00:24:59,664 --> 00:25:01,041
We have what we call
writer's meetings
722
00:25:01,082 --> 00:25:03,585
or just skull sessions
where we sit around,
723
00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:05,670
like, five of us,
and go over ideas.
724
00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,380
But now, for instance,
you can
725
00:25:07,422 --> 00:25:09,299
occasionally get them jobs.
726
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:10,967
Oh, yes!
Oh, definitely!
727
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:12,302
Definitely, yeah.
728
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,179
That's what I see
on the plateau that I'm at.
729
00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:17,140
I'm at a more job-getting level
than they are right now.
730
00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:18,600
Had a cat outside the club
walk up to me.
731
00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:21,394
He said, "Jim, I only got
three dollars to my name.
732
00:25:21,436 --> 00:25:22,854
What should I do?"
733
00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:25,106
I said, "Change your name."
734
00:25:25,148 --> 00:25:26,858
[Goldberg] Every star
you can imagine
735
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:27,901
walked through that door.
736
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:30,862
Writers and actors and comics.
737
00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:32,739
[Walker] One night,
I'm on stage,
738
00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:36,243
and there's this table
that's just going insane.
739
00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:37,994
This guy was so loud.
740
00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:41,039
I finally had to go
after this guy.
741
00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:42,541
I love you too!
742
00:25:42,582 --> 00:25:43,875
So I'm hitting him
and hitting him,
743
00:25:43,917 --> 00:25:46,086
doing jokes, attacking the guy.
744
00:25:46,127 --> 00:25:48,046
I found out
it's Stephen Stills,
745
00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:50,340
from Crosby, Stills,
Nash, and Young.
746
00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:53,260
So I'm doing all sorts
of Stephen Stills jokes,
747
00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:55,178
and I'm burying him,
and people are looking like,
748
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:56,805
"Oh, wow,
Stephen Stills, yay."
749
00:25:56,846 --> 00:26:00,267
So he's still going on
and on and on.
750
00:26:00,308 --> 00:26:04,354
Finally, like a dagger,
I hit him with a good line,
751
00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:06,356
and the audience just applauds.
752
00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:08,733
So I figure, "Okay, I'll just
go on and do my little jokes."
753
00:26:08,775 --> 00:26:09,985
At the Store in those days,
754
00:26:10,026 --> 00:26:12,070
we had
these big, heavy ashtrays
755
00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:13,196
that people would steal,
756
00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:14,739
and they had
"Comedy Store" on them.
757
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:16,575
Out of the corner of my eye,
758
00:26:16,616 --> 00:26:18,868
I spot an object
759
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:21,621
hurled at me
at 90 miles an hour.
760
00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,624
I put my hand up,
and I barely caught it
761
00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:26,751
right before it hit me
in the face.
762
00:26:26,793 --> 00:26:29,129
You know, Jimmie used
to sell peanuts
763
00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:30,297
at Yankee Stadium,
764
00:26:30,338 --> 00:26:32,549
so he had that ability
to catch and throw.
765
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:34,175
I finish my show, and I go,
766
00:26:34,217 --> 00:26:37,262
"Where the fuck is this
Stephen Stills guy at, man?"
767
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:41,182
So Stephen Stills,
I'm looking for you, brother.
768
00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:43,393
What do you know
about Freddie Prinze
769
00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:44,686
and Alan Bursky?
770
00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:47,105
All I knew is that
the rumor was that
771
00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:49,774
Freddie Prinze killed himself
with Alan Bursky's gun,
772
00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:51,776
and it wasn't that simple,
773
00:26:51,818 --> 00:26:53,111
and they were best friends,
774
00:26:53,153 --> 00:26:55,196
and it was a complicated story.
I remember that.
775
00:26:55,238 --> 00:26:57,073
[Prinze] Would you welcome
my good friend and roommate,
776
00:26:57,115 --> 00:26:58,283
Alan Bursky?
777
00:26:58,325 --> 00:27:01,911
[applause]
778
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:03,580
I'm not knocking old people.
779
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,081
I'm not.
In fact, we need old people.
780
00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:08,501
We do, because without them,
who would feed the pigeons?
781
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:10,795
Freddie Prinze was, like,
a year older than me,
782
00:27:10,837 --> 00:27:12,005
and one day, he calls me.
783
00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:13,298
I don't even know
how he got my number.
784
00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:14,633
And we start talking
785
00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:15,967
to each other
regularly on the phone.
786
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:17,469
[Binder] And he'd already done
The Tonight Show?
787
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:19,596
No, he hasn't done it yet.
He's gonna do it a month later.
788
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:20,513
[Binder] And you--but you've
done it.
789
00:27:20,555 --> 00:27:21,806
I've done it a couple times.
790
00:27:21,848 --> 00:27:23,350
He came out here,
and I'm excited.
791
00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:24,643
I'm gonna meet
my new best friend,
792
00:27:24,684 --> 00:27:25,644
Freddie Prinze.
793
00:27:25,685 --> 00:27:26,686
And I'm at the bar.
794
00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:28,563
You know, I'm 18 years old.
795
00:27:28,605 --> 00:27:29,939
This guy comes in.
796
00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:31,858
He literally has
two women on his arm.
797
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,736
He's 6'2", and I'm 5'5".
798
00:27:34,778 --> 00:27:36,738
I'm 18.
I look 14.
799
00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:40,158
This guy's 19.
He looks 35.
800
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,160
He's all dressed up, he's got
the women on his arm,
801
00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:43,662
he's got a cigarette
in his mouth,
802
00:27:43,703 --> 00:27:45,538
and he's pushing people
away from the bar,
803
00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:46,831
and he goes, "Alan!"
804
00:27:46,873 --> 00:27:48,500
And I went, "Who are you?"
805
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:50,794
"Freddie!"
I thought he was Clark Gable.
806
00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:52,337
I expected a kid.
807
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:53,296
It's like, you ever notice
808
00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:55,548
how ethnic groups
react to tragedy?
809
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:58,510
It's like, English people
are so blasé,
810
00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,512
they kill me, because, like,
811
00:28:00,553 --> 00:28:03,098
nothing bothers them.
You know, you go over to them.
812
00:28:03,139 --> 00:28:05,225
[English accent]
"Y--Jeffrey, Mother died."
813
00:28:06,643 --> 00:28:09,187
"Oh, really?
814
00:28:09,229 --> 00:28:12,232
I suppose we'll have
to bury her, then, won't we?"
815
00:28:12,273 --> 00:28:14,150
[Dark] We were all enamored
with Freddie,
816
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,653
and Alan was amazed
with Freddie.
817
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,029
But he also was a kid
like Freddie,
818
00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:19,698
so he could talk to him
on that level.
819
00:28:19,739 --> 00:28:21,533
Would you welcome, please,
Alan Bursky?
820
00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:23,535
[upbeat band music playing]
821
00:28:23,576 --> 00:28:25,203
Are you guys really roommates?
822
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:27,122
- [sighs]
- When I first moved out to LA.
823
00:28:27,163 --> 00:28:28,707
- My little partner.
- You know, you want to know
824
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:29,791
what's really
the most annoying thing
825
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:31,084
about him is?
He talks in his sleep.
826
00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:32,711
I mean, he doesn't t--
I take that back.
827
00:28:32,752 --> 00:28:34,254
He doesn't talk in his sleep.
He screams.
828
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:35,380
[laughter]
829
00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:36,715
The first night
Freddie moved in,
830
00:28:36,756 --> 00:28:37,882
he says to me,
"You have a mirror
831
00:28:37,924 --> 00:28:38,967
and a razor blade?"
832
00:28:39,008 --> 00:28:40,593
So I show him
my electric razor.
833
00:28:40,635 --> 00:28:41,761
I said, "No, use this."
834
00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:42,804
He goes, "No, not for that."
835
00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:44,097
I took my Woody Allen,
836
00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:45,640
framed Woody Allen picture,
off the wall
837
00:28:45,682 --> 00:28:47,434
and an X-Acto knife.
838
00:28:47,475 --> 00:28:49,811
And I said, "What is that?"
He goes, "It's cocaine,"
839
00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,896
and he starts scooping this
and chopping it.
840
00:28:51,938 --> 00:28:53,106
He goes, "You've never done
cocaine?"
841
00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:54,566
I said, "I've never seen it."
842
00:28:54,607 --> 00:28:55,775
He gave me a couple of bumps,
843
00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:57,235
I cleaned the apartment,
844
00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,237
I tried to polish
the air conditioner.
845
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,239
I take care of my uncle's
'64 Chevy.
846
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:03,074
Beautiful condition.
847
00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:05,910
Pom-poms
on all the antennas.
848
00:29:05,952 --> 00:29:07,620
Cellophane seat covers, right?
849
00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:08,913
Little dog in the back window
850
00:29:08,955 --> 00:29:10,915
with the head keeps rolling
up and down.
851
00:29:10,957 --> 00:29:12,250
[Bursky] Freddie got
a TV pilot
852
00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:13,710
September '74.
853
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,588
I got a TV pilot late '74,
854
00:29:16,629 --> 00:29:19,382
How to Succeed in Business
Without Really Trying.
855
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:20,633
Where's the meeting today?
856
00:29:20,675 --> 00:29:22,969
- What meeting?
- The big meeting!
857
00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,471
- In the big meeting room?
- Thanks.
858
00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:26,055
[Bursky] One of the biggest
pilots of the year.
859
00:29:26,097 --> 00:29:27,474
It didn't get picked up,
obviously.
860
00:29:27,515 --> 00:29:29,434
My life would be very different
if it did.
861
00:29:29,476 --> 00:29:33,104
He lived through Freddie
for that period of time.
862
00:29:33,146 --> 00:29:36,274
[Bursky] There are people
whose energy and personality
863
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:39,527
are so big, they will just
suck it out of you,
864
00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:40,904
and that's what made him
a star.
865
00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:43,406
At this time, it gives me
great joy and pleasure
866
00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:46,367
- to introduce this next...
- [crowd roars]
867
00:29:46,409 --> 00:29:50,163
smooth music
868
00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:51,456
Ooh-la-la!
869
00:29:53,833 --> 00:29:55,668
Looking good!
870
00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:58,963
Freddie Prinze, ladies
and gentlemen, Freddie Prinze!
871
00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:00,131
[Walker] Freddie Prinze
was on every cover
872
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:02,383
of all these little
teen beat magazines.
873
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:04,385
What Freddie would do
is go over to Cahuenga,
874
00:30:04,427 --> 00:30:06,095
and they had
that big newspaper stand,
875
00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:08,890
and they have all
these teenybopper magazines,
876
00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:10,975
Teen Beat and Tiger Beat
877
00:30:11,017 --> 00:30:13,061
and Teens on Parade--
whatever they would have,
878
00:30:13,102 --> 00:30:14,354
and he'd stand in front
of a magazine
879
00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:16,064
where his picture's
on the magazine,
880
00:30:16,105 --> 00:30:17,482
and people would come in there
and go,
881
00:30:17,524 --> 00:30:19,859
"Hey, aren't you...
882
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,319
Freddie Prinze?"
883
00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:23,738
"Yeah, I'm here reading,
uh, British Weekly. "
884
00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:28,785
"Freddie, could you sign
my--my thing?"
885
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,203
"Well, all right, yeah,
whatever"
886
00:30:30,245 --> 00:30:31,830
So we'd sign all these things,
887
00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:33,122
and he'd be there,
and he'd do a stand-up.
888
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:36,167
Ba-ba-ba
ba-ba-barino
889
00:30:36,209 --> 00:30:38,920
[Walker] The next year,
Freddie is off the covers
890
00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:40,171
of every magazine.
891
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:43,216
Now it is all
about John Travolta.
892
00:30:43,258 --> 00:30:46,261
He used to tell me--
he says, "God, Travolta.
893
00:30:46,302 --> 00:30:48,513
My God, Tim," and he'd get
really hot about it, you know.
894
00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:50,139
I said, "What's the matter
with you, man?"
895
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:51,558
I said, "The guy--
he's just another actor guy.
896
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:53,184
Once you get your show,
you're a big hit,
897
00:30:53,226 --> 00:30:55,520
you know, you're doubling
for Carson.
898
00:30:55,562 --> 00:30:58,356
I mean, you're hanging
with Dean Martin and Sammy Man.
899
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,358
I mean, you're--
you know, you're in the club."
900
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,069
But he had this, you know,
obsession with Travolta.
901
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:04,404
[Walker] And he calls me.
902
00:31:04,445 --> 00:31:06,030
"Going to
the sporting goods store."
903
00:31:06,072 --> 00:31:08,283
"Sporting goods store?
You never work out.
904
00:31:08,324 --> 00:31:09,534
What the hell are you doing
at a sporting goods store?"
905
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:10,493
"You'll see."
906
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:11,953
Freddie goes in.
He buys
907
00:31:11,995 --> 00:31:13,955
a high-powered bow and arrow.
908
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:15,540
- [Binder] Like a crossbow?
- Yes.
909
00:31:15,582 --> 00:31:18,668
He says, "We gotta kill
John Travolta."
910
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,086
- [Binder laughs]
- I go,
911
00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:22,046
"What are you talking about?"
912
00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:23,673
He says, "I'm gonna kill
this guy, man."
913
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:25,466
So we drive down.
914
00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:27,343
Travolta lived
on Santa Monica Boulevard.
915
00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:28,720
And I said, "Freddie,
what are we doing?"
916
00:31:28,761 --> 00:31:31,222
He says, "I'm gonna go
shoot him in his apartment."
917
00:31:31,264 --> 00:31:32,891
"Freddie, we are not shooting
918
00:31:32,932 --> 00:31:35,018
any John Travolta
in his apartment.
919
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,353
Not happening!"
920
00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:39,230
So I'm wrestling with the guy.
921
00:31:39,272 --> 00:31:40,523
I say, "Give me
the bow and arrow.
922
00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:41,524
Give me the thing."
923
00:31:41,566 --> 00:31:43,109
He says, "I'm killing
this guy, man.
924
00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:45,278
I'm the biggest star on TV
No one's bi--"
925
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,779
I said, "Well, Freddie,
a lot of people are on TV.
926
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:47,906
I'm on TV."
He said,
927
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:49,115
"You're not bigger than me,
man!
928
00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:50,700
I'm the biggest guy!
929
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:52,076
I'm the best guy!
Everybody knows me!
930
00:31:52,118 --> 00:31:53,703
I'm the funniest guy!"
931
00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:55,246
"All right,
you're the funniest guy."
932
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,040
Bangs on the door.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
933
00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:58,374
Nobody answers.
934
00:31:58,416 --> 00:32:01,044
I'm relieved.
I look back.
935
00:32:01,085 --> 00:32:02,795
There's Freddie
with the bow and arrow.
936
00:32:02,837 --> 00:32:04,881
He fires three shots
937
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,259
into Travolta's door.
938
00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:10,219
And I'm sure, to this day,
939
00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:11,596
John Travolta is thinking,
940
00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:12,972
"I wonder what happened
in Los Angeles
941
00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:15,266
when a guy fired those shots
into my door.
942
00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:16,309
What was that about?"
943
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,520
deep jazz music
944
00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:27,195
[Letterman] We're under
a flash flood warning,
945
00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:28,613
but all of that seems
of little importance
946
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,573
once you take a look
at the cloud cover photograph
947
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:32,492
made earlier
of the United States today.
948
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,619
And I think you'll see
that once again, we've fallen
949
00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,454
to the prey
of political dirty dealings.
950
00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,122
The higher-ups have removed
the border
951
00:32:38,164 --> 00:32:39,666
between Indiana and Ohio,
952
00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:41,250
making it one giant state.
953
00:32:41,292 --> 00:32:44,212
Personally, I am against it.
954
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:46,464
We were all standing back here
in this area,
955
00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:48,299
and when a new guy came in,
all the regulars
956
00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:49,968
kind of stood back
in kind of, like,
957
00:32:50,009 --> 00:32:51,636
"Okay, show us what you got"
kind of thing,
958
00:32:51,678 --> 00:32:52,971
not really ignoring the guy,
959
00:32:53,012 --> 00:32:54,347
but not paying much attention.
960
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:56,933
I'll never forget.
I'm standing about in this area,
961
00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,309
and I hear the guy on stage.
962
00:32:58,351 --> 00:33:00,269
The National Enquirer.
That's right.
963
00:33:00,311 --> 00:33:01,729
You folks read the Enquirer?
964
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,189
[scattered cheers and applause]
965
00:33:03,231 --> 00:33:05,984
Last week in the Enquirer,
a big story:
966
00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:09,153
how to lose weight
without diet or exercise.
967
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:13,449
Pretty much leaves disease,
doesn't it?
968
00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:14,993
When I saw Letterman here,
I said,
969
00:33:15,034 --> 00:33:17,161
"This guy
is lightning quick, man."
970
00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:19,122
He--he was just lightning fast.
971
00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:21,874
Just boom.
And sarcastic.
972
00:33:21,916 --> 00:33:23,584
I came out here.
973
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,672
I told my family
that I was gonna be a writer
974
00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:29,757
because you don't want
to tell people,
975
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,260
"Oh, you know, I've decided
I'm gonna be a comedian."
976
00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:34,178
Letterman is sleeping
across the street here
977
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:35,513
from The Comedy Store
in a--
978
00:33:35,555 --> 00:33:39,058
an apartment the size
of a small closet
979
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,561
with a bed and a hot plate.
980
00:33:41,602 --> 00:33:43,813
It was a dump.
It was an apartment house
981
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,189
that was just deteriorating.
982
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:46,691
And then when he wanted
to type, he--
983
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:47,984
he was--I guess didn't--
984
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,028
either didn't have enough money
or enough energy
985
00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:51,320
to go buy a light bulb,
986
00:33:51,362 --> 00:33:52,697
and he would take
his typewriter,
987
00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:55,742
and he would put it on the sink
in the bathroom
988
00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:58,119
and sit on the toilet and type.
989
00:33:58,161 --> 00:34:00,121
And they were
like little boxes, right?
990
00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:02,040
It was just one room
and a bathroom.
991
00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:05,209
So you and Letterman...
992
00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:06,919
Letterman,
George Miller...
993
00:34:06,961 --> 00:34:08,546
I could've done
all the big shows.
994
00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:10,214
It's just that I've been
real busy in my room
995
00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:12,717
the past few years.
996
00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:14,969
I loved to watch
George Miller on stage
997
00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:17,722
just because he was, um--
998
00:34:17,764 --> 00:34:20,058
boy, he was unique.
999
00:34:20,099 --> 00:34:21,350
But all George wanted to do
1000
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:22,769
was sit in his room all day,
1001
00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:24,479
take illegal drugs,
1002
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,938
write his jokes,
1003
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,066
come out at night,
do his jokes,
1004
00:34:28,107 --> 00:34:30,443
and then continue taking
illegal drugs.
1005
00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:32,153
And this place was
such a drug den, you know.
1006
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,571
- Yeah.
- But you didn't do
1007
00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:34,489
a lot of drugs.
1008
00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:35,490
- No, no.
- You drank a lot.
1009
00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:36,991
Drank a lot.
Yeah, I was a drunk.
1010
00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:38,910
I used to drink vodka
1011
00:34:38,951 --> 00:34:40,745
and Rose's Lime Juice.
1012
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,455
And then--but to get drunk,
1013
00:34:42,497 --> 00:34:44,582
I would always leave
and go home and get drunk.
1014
00:34:44,624 --> 00:34:45,917
- [Binder] Oh, really?
- Because I didn't want
1015
00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:47,710
anybody to see me shitfaced.
1016
00:34:47,752 --> 00:34:49,420
'Cause I remember,
you didn't hang late here.
1017
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,005
No.
I tried that once or twice,
1018
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:52,590
and I just kept thinking,
1019
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:54,175
"I'm sleepy,"
1020
00:34:54,217 --> 00:34:56,094
and so I just went home
1021
00:34:56,135 --> 00:34:58,304
and drank myself to sleep.
1022
00:34:58,346 --> 00:35:00,765
It was always apparent
he was gonna do well
1023
00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:04,727
as a talk show host,
'cause he was so damn host-y.
1024
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:06,270
He just looked host-ian...
1025
00:35:06,312 --> 00:35:08,147
David walks behind the stage
to get ready
1026
00:35:08,189 --> 00:35:10,024
for his next show,
and he's got his notes
1027
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:11,609
for his open,
1028
00:35:11,651 --> 00:35:13,444
and my prop person
1029
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:15,196
is putting my props together.
1030
00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:16,614
Well, I was living
with that person.
1031
00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:17,782
It was Debra Winger.
1032
00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:20,201
And David and Debra met
behind this curtain.
1033
00:35:20,243 --> 00:35:21,619
He says, "Well, who are you?"
1034
00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:24,288
I like the everyday guy thing.
He was really cute.
1035
00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:25,790
You know, he had a split
in his teeth,
1036
00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:26,874
and he had a wife,
1037
00:35:26,916 --> 00:35:28,501
and he was, like, normal.
1038
00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:31,295
You had some great bits,
you know, that--
1039
00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:33,965
that--I remember the bit--
1040
00:35:34,006 --> 00:35:36,551
Please don't quote material...
1041
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,052
- No.
- ...I used to do.
1042
00:35:38,094 --> 00:35:39,470
- No, I won't.
- Just describe it.
1043
00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:41,389
- I'm not gonna.
- Just describe it, Mike.
1044
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:42,974
Well, isn't quoting
describing it?
1045
00:35:43,015 --> 00:35:45,059
It's more tolerable to me
1046
00:35:45,101 --> 00:35:47,103
if you just describe it,
and then I'll...
1047
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:48,437
- And then you'll do it?
- ...I'll determine
1048
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:50,106
whether it's going to be done
or not.
1049
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,817
Okay, the weatherman that
had to do one of the murders.
1050
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,068
Yeah, no, we don't want
to discuss that.
1051
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:55,153
- That was a great one.
- No, no.
1052
00:35:55,194 --> 00:35:56,654
I loved that one, and--
1053
00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,656
I'll describe it.
It was the idea of--
1054
00:35:58,698 --> 00:36:01,117
this was the advent
of where everybody
1055
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,869
on the local newscast--
1056
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:05,371
friendly, happy,
we're all funny,
1057
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:08,499
we're all buddies,
we love one another--
1058
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:13,129
and something about, uh,
a guy doing the ball scores.
1059
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,757
The Cubs beat the Cardinals.
1060
00:36:16,799 --> 00:36:19,302
- God, you're botching it up.
- The Cincinnati Reds...
1061
00:36:19,343 --> 00:36:20,595
- Look at you.
- ...beat the Giants.
1062
00:36:20,636 --> 00:36:21,387
How old are you?
1063
00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:23,055
The, uh--the Yankees
1064
00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:24,682
beat the Red Sox,
1065
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:29,270
and the Dodgers murdered
the Padres.
1066
00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:30,980
Speaking of murders...
1067
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,317
and then I would go on
to describe some grisly...
1068
00:36:34,358 --> 00:36:36,194
- You just ruined a...
- ...unpleasant murder.
1069
00:36:36,235 --> 00:36:37,653
...beautiful piece of art.
1070
00:36:37,695 --> 00:36:38,696
[laughs]
1071
00:36:38,738 --> 00:36:41,449
You should be ashamed
of yourself.
1072
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:42,742
Yeah, you had some great beats.
1073
00:36:42,783 --> 00:36:44,368
- No, I'll de--
- Well, I'm not gonna do it.
1074
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:45,536
- I'll defer to you.
- Let me just say.
1075
00:36:45,578 --> 00:36:47,538
I'll defer to you.
It's no "High High."
1076
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:50,208
It's no "High High."
It sure is not.
1077
00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:53,169
One day in Indianapolis,
there were three murders
1078
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,462
and the news director
didn't think
1079
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:56,172
it would be too amusing to have
the anchorman
1080
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,382
report all three murders
back to back,
1081
00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:01,260
so they gave one
to the sportscaster to do.
1082
00:37:01,677 --> 00:37:04,889
The guy was reading
baseball scores at the time.
1083
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,390
"Well, first,
in the National League,
1084
00:37:06,432 --> 00:37:08,100
it was the Mets
over the Braves, 3-2.
1085
00:37:08,142 --> 00:37:09,727
Reds got passed
at the Cards, 5-4,
1086
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:13,022
and the Dodgers murdered
the Giants, 9-0.
1087
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:14,732
Speaking of murders...
1088
00:37:16,442 --> 00:37:18,819
Looks like
45-year-old Eddie Pasteur
1089
00:37:18,861 --> 00:37:21,405
won't be going out
to the old ballpark anymore.
1090
00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:23,908
[laughter, applause]
1091
00:37:28,788 --> 00:37:30,998
He was gunned down last night
during a liquor store holdup.
1092
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,334
Once again, final score:
liquor store 1, Eddie nothing.
1093
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:35,127
Now on to golf."
1094
00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:36,545
What did you come out to do?
1095
00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,588
[laughs]
1096
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:38,923
Since I never
really understood that.
1097
00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:41,092
Nobody's--nobody's ever
asked me that question.
1098
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:44,595
I--really, uh, was looking
to get into insurance.
1099
00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:46,097
- Is that what it was?
- Yes.
1100
00:37:46,138 --> 00:37:47,848
Yes, and my car broke down
right out in front...
1101
00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:49,267
Yeah, right in front
of the Store.
1102
00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:50,309
- Uh-huh.
- A lot of comedians,
1103
00:37:50,351 --> 00:37:51,644
to this day,
1104
00:37:51,686 --> 00:37:53,729
never really knew
what they wanted to do.
1105
00:37:53,771 --> 00:37:55,481
If they didn't know
what they wanted to do,
1106
00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:57,316
why were they here?
What was it?
1107
00:37:57,358 --> 00:37:58,609
Well, I'll give you
a really good example.
1108
00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:01,112
One of the funniest guys
I knew, Jeff Altman.
1109
00:38:01,153 --> 00:38:04,699
[big band music playing]
1110
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,785
Jeff Altman just came here
one night after college,
1111
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,954
and he was sitting
in this room,
1112
00:38:09,996 --> 00:38:12,456
and Mitzi Shore--
he heard Mitzi going,
1113
00:38:12,498 --> 00:38:14,125
"What do you mean
there's no comedian?"
1114
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:15,251
I walked over to Mitzi.
I said,
1115
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:16,752
"Miss Shore, can I go up
on stage?"
1116
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,963
She said,
[nasally] "What do you do?"
1117
00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:20,464
I said, "Well, I can do
a few impressions."
1118
00:38:20,506 --> 00:38:22,174
"What's your name?"
I said, "Altman."
1119
00:38:22,216 --> 00:38:24,635
"All right, Altman,
go up on stage and try it."
1120
00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:26,470
And I went up on stage
and did
1121
00:38:26,512 --> 00:38:28,264
most of David Frye's act.
1122
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,640
I miss Muhammad Ali.
1123
00:38:29,682 --> 00:38:31,183
It's just not the same
without him around.
1124
00:38:31,225 --> 00:38:32,810
I mean, all the chatter.
[as Muhammad Ali] Hello, Pam.
1125
00:38:32,852 --> 00:38:34,645
Some said Frazier was
the greatest of all time.
1126
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,439
I beat George Foreman,
some says it was good.
1127
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,815
I prove--[as Cosell]
Slow down, Muhammad,
1128
00:38:37,857 --> 00:38:39,817
you're absolutely the...
[as Ali] Shut up, Cosell,
1129
00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:41,485
asshole-breath,
I don't have--ba-bam.
1130
00:38:41,527 --> 00:38:42,653
I got a few laughs,
and she said,
1131
00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:43,988
"Well, that wasn't bad,
Altman.
1132
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:45,072
You can come back."
1133
00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:47,408
[imitates Doppler effect]
1134
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:48,826
And that's how I started.
1135
00:38:48,868 --> 00:38:51,662
We spent two weeks together
doing a television show.
1136
00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:53,164
And you'll also see
the Starland Vocal Band
1137
00:38:53,205 --> 00:38:54,582
hard at work...
1138
00:38:54,623 --> 00:38:56,917
[band]
Country roads
1139
00:38:56,959 --> 00:38:59,420
Take me home
1140
00:38:59,462 --> 00:39:01,213
Jeff and I were hired
1141
00:39:01,255 --> 00:39:04,425
to be the stooges on the show,
1142
00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:07,553
and before the six-week run
of that show,
1143
00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:10,556
the Starland Vocal Band
was out of business, gone,
1144
00:39:10,598 --> 00:39:13,225
but for two weeks,
honest to God,
1145
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:17,396
my sternum was sore
from laughing.
1146
00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:19,148
Nobody really cares
about your stupid cars.
1147
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:21,609
We're actually interested
in the Starland Vocal Band.
1148
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:22,651
You'd be the first guy
to come to me
1149
00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:24,070
with a gummed-up carburetor,
1150
00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:25,363
and, uh, all you had to fix it
1151
00:39:25,404 --> 00:39:26,614
was some kind of guitar pick
or something.
1152
00:39:26,655 --> 00:39:29,533
You know, Billy,
your eyes really twinkle
1153
00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:30,701
when you say
something moronic like that.
1154
00:39:30,743 --> 00:39:32,036
Well, I'd sure like
to twinkle you.
1155
00:39:32,078 --> 00:39:33,996
Okay, you want to put Billy
back up on the lift?
1156
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:34,955
On the lift?
Hey.
1157
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:36,540
Thank you so much, Billy.
1158
00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:38,542
Okay, there we go.
1159
00:39:38,584 --> 00:39:40,878
In 1980, I was lucky enough
1160
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,713
to have garnered
1161
00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:45,508
the wonderful
Pink Lady and Jeff show.
1162
00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:47,676
Pink Lady and Jeff, when--
ooh, when that was announced,
1163
00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:50,137
man, Jeff's got a show,
a variety show!
1164
00:39:50,179 --> 00:39:52,431
Probably the biggest mistake
I ever made in show business
1165
00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:53,557
was doing that show.
1166
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,142
Somebody dangled
a lot of money
1167
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:56,644
in front of me.
1168
00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:57,895
You're going to star
on your own show,
1169
00:39:57,937 --> 00:39:59,563
and it's with
these two Japanese girls
1170
00:39:59,605 --> 00:40:01,649
that are like the Beatles
in Japan.
1171
00:40:01,690 --> 00:40:03,734
How do you meet people
in your country?
1172
00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:05,069
We have a thing that's
a lot easier in this country.
1173
00:40:05,111 --> 00:40:06,904
It's called computer dating.
1174
00:40:06,946 --> 00:40:08,864
Oh, you date a computer?
1175
00:40:10,282 --> 00:40:13,577
I told you he was strange.
1176
00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:15,913
And they spoke phonetically,
and they managed to get
1177
00:40:15,955 --> 00:40:17,581
through five shows
that we taped.
1178
00:40:17,623 --> 00:40:19,250
Can't believe I'm standing
on the stage
1179
00:40:19,291 --> 00:40:20,626
with Jerry Lewis!
1180
00:40:20,668 --> 00:40:21,544
What do you think
I'm going through?
1181
00:40:21,585 --> 00:40:22,920
I don't know!
1182
00:40:22,962 --> 00:40:25,965
My friends out there know
I'm gonna be with, uh...
1183
00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:26,966
Jeff Altman.
1184
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:29,593
[laughter]
1185
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,554
Hey, lady!
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1186
00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:32,972
I remember my manager
1187
00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:35,516
sitting there with the heads
of NBC sitting there,
1188
00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:37,268
going, "Yeah, this sounds
like a good idea.
1189
00:40:37,309 --> 00:40:39,979
This was a great...
Okay, yeah, we should do this."
1190
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,940
And had I not done that show,
in my mind,
1191
00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:45,192
and waited to do, like,
an ensemble piece
1192
00:40:45,234 --> 00:40:46,694
in a nice sitcom,
1193
00:40:46,735 --> 00:40:48,320
I think I would've had
a very different career.
1194
00:40:48,362 --> 00:40:50,072
[Binder] What do you regret
about your time
1195
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:51,115
at The Comedy Store?
1196
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:53,117
Stayed too long.
1197
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,536
I had developed a little act
1198
00:40:55,578 --> 00:40:57,121
that I would do in Vegas
or something
1199
00:40:57,163 --> 00:40:59,623
that was about 20 minutes long,
25 minutes long,
1200
00:40:59,665 --> 00:41:01,000
and I would come here
and do that every night
1201
00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:02,084
at The Comedy Store,
1202
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,502
and it started getting
a little lame.
1203
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,588
I never worked hard enough
1204
00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:07,756
on creating new material
for my act.
1205
00:41:07,798 --> 00:41:09,300
That makes me look
inside myself,
1206
00:41:09,341 --> 00:41:12,094
and what do I see?
I see somebody who's kind of,
1207
00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:16,932
at least in the last 15 years,
lazy,
1208
00:41:16,974 --> 00:41:19,143
just fucking lazy.
1209
00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:20,978
It was always a job,
and the comedians,
1210
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,855
successful, are the ones
that worked at it.
1211
00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:25,649
There are a lot
of really funny comedians
1212
00:41:25,691 --> 00:41:27,234
who would come here,
and they'd--
1213
00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:28,777
they'd have a Comedy Store act.
1214
00:41:28,819 --> 00:41:31,238
They'd have ten minutes
on this piece of plastic
1215
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,406
and five minutes on--
1216
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:33,491
and then they go
somewhere else,
1217
00:41:33,532 --> 00:41:34,617
and the act didn't work.
1218
00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:35,910
You know, my attitude
was always,
1219
00:41:35,951 --> 00:41:38,037
if you're any good,
if you get good someplace,
1220
00:41:38,078 --> 00:41:40,122
get out of there
and go to the next place.
1221
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:41,332
- Yeah.
- You know?
1222
00:41:41,373 --> 00:41:42,875
Just so many acts would have
1223
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,502
"Comedy Store" ma--
and they were funny,
1224
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,295
as long as they were
at The Comedy Store.
1225
00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:47,796
This was like a college.
1226
00:41:47,838 --> 00:41:48,881
You know, I came here
to go to school,
1227
00:41:48,923 --> 00:41:50,633
to learn, and I did learn.
1228
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,218
It was the greatest place
in the world.
1229
00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:53,719
smooth music
1230
00:41:53,761 --> 00:41:55,012
[Letterman] Without question,
1231
00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:57,515
Jay was the funniest
of all of us.
1232
00:41:57,556 --> 00:41:59,350
I never saw him--
I never saw him bomb.
1233
00:41:59,391 --> 00:42:00,351
All the comedians
would do our set,
1234
00:42:00,392 --> 00:42:01,727
we'd go outside,
and we'd talk.
1235
00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:03,354
Someone'd say, "Jay's on,"
and we'd all run inside,
1236
00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:04,438
and we'd all stand in the back.
1237
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,481
I don't know how women
1238
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:06,732
talk about sex
with other women,
1239
00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:08,317
but guys are real silly.
1240
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:11,362
Like, you know, a guy--
no guy gets laid once.
1241
00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:12,780
You know what I'm saying?
1242
00:42:12,821 --> 00:42:14,031
It's always like, "Hey, Bob,
how'd your date go
1243
00:42:14,073 --> 00:42:16,367
with Susan last night?"
"Eh, not bad.
1244
00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:17,952
Went back to my place.
1245
00:42:17,993 --> 00:42:21,038
Guess we balled
about 52 times."
1246
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,290
[laughter]
1247
00:42:23,332 --> 00:42:24,917
Then you talk to Susan.
1248
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:28,170
[feminine voice] "Well, Bob had
a little problem...
1249
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:31,549
guess he'd been working hard
at the office."
1250
00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:35,803
Plus, the more guys are around,
the more macho the story.
1251
00:42:35,844 --> 00:42:37,137
That's the big thing,
you know?
1252
00:42:37,179 --> 00:42:38,889
A guy will never really say
what happened,
1253
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:40,683
even if he had a good time.
1254
00:42:40,724 --> 00:42:42,309
You know, a guy could've gone
to the girl's house,
1255
00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:43,602
he might've taken
a bubble bath,
1256
00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:45,437
had a few laughs,
1257
00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:47,606
hugged, went to bed.
Happens a lot.
1258
00:42:47,648 --> 00:42:48,857
But you never hear a guy
tell that story.
1259
00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:50,150
A guy will always say,
"Yeah, I took her
1260
00:42:50,192 --> 00:42:51,318
back to my house,
1261
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,528
hung her by her heels,
1262
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:53,904
hit her with a gun butt
a few times.
1263
00:42:53,946 --> 00:42:55,739
Yeah.
1264
00:42:55,781 --> 00:42:59,243
Fired a dumdum bullet
in her brother's forehead.
1265
00:42:59,285 --> 00:43:00,744
Yeah, I had a good time."
1266
00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:04,164
Well. Mm. Mm.
1267
00:43:04,206 --> 00:43:05,583
What else did this guy say?
Well, you know what?
1268
00:43:05,624 --> 00:43:06,709
You know what else
this guy said?
1269
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:08,043
And I thought
this was fascinating.
1270
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,629
This guy said
that the average male
1271
00:43:10,671 --> 00:43:14,717
has 10,000 orgasms
in his lifetime.
1272
00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:18,596
Called my doctor Thursday.
I have nine left.
1273
00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:24,435
Now you start thinking
about all the ones you wasted.
1274
00:43:24,476 --> 00:43:25,853
Jesus.
1275
00:43:25,894 --> 00:43:26,979
You know, when I was a kid,
there used to be
1276
00:43:27,021 --> 00:43:28,647
a show called
The Danny Thomas Show,
1277
00:43:28,689 --> 00:43:30,899
and every night, Danny would
have dinner with his wife,
1278
00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:32,401
and he'd go, "Honey,
I'm going down to the club,"
1279
00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:34,403
and I thought, "Well,
what a cool life that is."
1280
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:35,988
You know, you have your home,
1281
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,948
and then you have the club
where you perform.
1282
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,783
You know, in my mind,
this was that.
1283
00:43:39,825 --> 00:43:42,286
I mean, I could come
to "the club" every night,
1284
00:43:42,328 --> 00:43:44,788
and I could hang out
with other comedians.
1285
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:46,832
You learn things
from watching Jay,
1286
00:43:46,874 --> 00:43:48,792
and you could imitate them
a little bit,
1287
00:43:48,834 --> 00:43:53,005
but because it was so of Jay
that it was impossible.
1288
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:56,133
I was, uh, a big--"Hey,
you know, everybody cool?
1289
00:43:56,175 --> 00:43:57,635
Everybody all right?
Blah, blah, blah."
1290
00:43:57,676 --> 00:43:59,428
There was a lot
of physicality to it.
1291
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:00,804
Like, Letterman said to me,
1292
00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:02,181
"How can you be
so confident up there?"
1293
00:44:02,222 --> 00:44:03,265
And I would say,
1294
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:04,642
"How do you write
such great jokes?"
1295
00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:06,477
You know.
I'm a huge believer
1296
00:44:06,518 --> 00:44:08,270
in low self-esteem.
1297
00:44:08,312 --> 00:44:09,438
I think low self-esteem
1298
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,898
is really what helps you
get ahead,
1299
00:44:10,939 --> 00:44:11,982
because you don't
automatically think
1300
00:44:12,024 --> 00:44:13,734
you're the smartest person
in the room.
1301
00:44:13,776 --> 00:44:15,235
You know, I'm dyslexic.
I can't spell.
1302
00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:16,654
I've never written anything
down.
1303
00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:18,822
I just try to keep it
all in my head.
1304
00:44:18,864 --> 00:44:21,325
And that works for me,
and if I assume,
1305
00:44:21,367 --> 00:44:22,951
you know, "I'm not as good
as these guys.
1306
00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:24,703
I'll just have to work
a little bit harder,"
1307
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:25,996
that's what works for me.
1308
00:44:26,038 --> 00:44:27,706
I never flew Pittsburgh
to Los Angeles.
1309
00:44:27,748 --> 00:44:30,042
This was
the worst airline flight.
1310
00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:32,336
- I--anyway...
- But you enjoyed your flight.
1311
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:34,213
Well, you know what it is?
It makes these stops,
1312
00:44:34,254 --> 00:44:35,756
and not e--it's not even
like regular stops.
1313
00:44:35,798 --> 00:44:36,924
It's so, like, the pilot
1314
00:44:36,965 --> 00:44:38,175
can show the plane
to his friends.
1315
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:39,510
You know, that kind of...
1316
00:44:39,551 --> 00:44:40,719
[Letterman laughing]
1317
00:44:40,761 --> 00:44:43,681
gentle guitar music
1318
00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:54,024
[Letterman] Oh, man.
Michael Keaton.
1319
00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:56,235
I just--I love him,
loved him then...
1320
00:44:56,276 --> 00:44:58,946
Michael Keaton
was a great comic.
1321
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,573
A joke he used to do--
he'd make me laugh all the time
1322
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:03,367
about women,
the way they talk.
1323
00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:05,244
You almost never heard
a construction worker say,
1324
00:45:05,285 --> 00:45:08,747
"Cute top."
1325
00:45:08,789 --> 00:45:10,916
He was so likable on stage.
1326
00:45:10,958 --> 00:45:13,544
The average four-year-old,
ego-wise,
1327
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:15,045
doesn't have that much
on the line.
1328
00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:16,672
You know?
The average four-year-old
1329
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:17,756
doesn't have too many
furrowed brows
1330
00:45:17,798 --> 00:45:19,425
or a look of concern...
1331
00:45:19,466 --> 00:45:20,884
"Jeez, I was supposed to be
at the playground
1332
00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:23,721
at three o'clock.
I'm late!"
1333
00:45:23,762 --> 00:45:25,389
You used to have
this really funny thing.
1334
00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:28,225
It's funny how comedians
will always remember some...
1335
00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:30,227
one or two or three
really funny things
1336
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:32,146
that maybe nobody else
laughed at
1337
00:45:32,187 --> 00:45:33,689
that you just found hysterical.
1338
00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:35,065
You said that thing
about your dad.
1339
00:45:35,107 --> 00:45:36,191
You said, "You know,
we're thinking
1340
00:45:36,233 --> 00:45:38,569
about putting my dad
in a rest home."
1341
00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:40,070
You go--do you remember this?
1342
00:45:40,112 --> 00:45:42,030
See, you probably just threw it
away one night,
1343
00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:43,741
and I found that
hysterically funny.
1344
00:45:43,782 --> 00:45:44,950
You said, "Thinking
about putting my dad
1345
00:45:44,992 --> 00:45:46,869
in a rest home,
and, you know,
1346
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:48,245
doesn't wanna go,
and he's resisting,
1347
00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:49,955
and I said to him,
'Come on, Dad.
1348
00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,832
- You're 42.'"
- Oh, yeah, you're right.
1349
00:45:51,874 --> 00:45:53,292
I forgot about that.
I did.
1350
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:54,752
Let me explain this to you.
You see, I want my dad
1351
00:45:54,793 --> 00:45:56,211
to go into a nursing home.
1352
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:57,588
I'm going, "Dad,
1353
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:00,674
you're 44 years old.
1354
00:46:00,716 --> 00:46:02,926
Let's wrap it up, Pop, okay?"
1355
00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:04,595
I was standing right here
one time.
1356
00:46:04,636 --> 00:46:05,763
I made the fatal mistake
1357
00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:07,931
of eating before I went
on stage.
1358
00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:11,185
I-I hadn't eaten all day.
I was starving.
1359
00:46:11,226 --> 00:46:14,646
Letterman walks by me
and says some smartass remark.
1360
00:46:14,688 --> 00:46:16,023
He was right.
He looks at me.
1361
00:46:16,064 --> 00:46:17,191
And I'm eating
a big cheeseburger,
1362
00:46:17,232 --> 00:46:18,859
and it was kind of like this.
I go...
1363
00:46:18,901 --> 00:46:20,235
All right.
You set it down,
1364
00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:22,070
and you wipe your mouth,
and you go on stage.
1365
00:46:22,112 --> 00:46:23,447
You're horrible.
You can never eat
1366
00:46:23,489 --> 00:46:24,865
just before you go on stage.
1367
00:46:24,907 --> 00:46:26,116
A lot of people go,
"Michael Keaton
1368
00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:28,911
did stand-up comedy?"
And they don't know.
1369
00:46:28,952 --> 00:46:30,287
- Yeah, I know.
- [Binder] And it bothers me.
1370
00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:31,622
You know?
1371
00:46:31,663 --> 00:46:33,707
And then they'll go,
"Yeah, no, that makes sense."
1372
00:46:33,749 --> 00:46:35,626
He's oh so funny
in "Beetlejuice."
1373
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:37,795
That is why I won't do
1374
00:46:37,836 --> 00:46:39,463
two shows a night
anymore, babe.
1375
00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:40,672
I won't.
I won't do it.
1376
00:46:40,714 --> 00:46:42,007
He was one of those guys.
1377
00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:43,967
As soon as he made it big,
he quit stand-up.
1378
00:46:44,009 --> 00:46:45,803
I got hired out of here
by Robert Klein
1379
00:46:45,844 --> 00:46:47,137
to do a pilot.
1380
00:46:47,179 --> 00:46:48,680
I remember him
on that Mary Tyler Moore
1381
00:46:48,722 --> 00:46:49,932
variety show,
he and Letterman
1382
00:46:49,973 --> 00:46:51,725
both being humiliated
1383
00:46:51,767 --> 00:46:53,143
within an inch of their lives.
1384
00:46:53,185 --> 00:46:55,395
Think I should start dating?
1385
00:46:55,437 --> 00:46:56,980
Came as soon as I heard.
1386
00:46:57,022 --> 00:46:58,816
Get out, you swinging single.
1387
00:46:58,857 --> 00:47:00,150
Hey, you got me all wrong.
1388
00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:01,401
I'm a door-to-door salesman.
1389
00:47:01,443 --> 00:47:03,403
- Wanna buy an encyclopedia?
- No.
1390
00:47:03,445 --> 00:47:05,239
- Okay, wanna have sex?
- Get out!
1391
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,366
He did Working Stiffs
with Jim Belushi.
1392
00:47:08,534 --> 00:47:09,576
All right.
[grunts]
1393
00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:11,119
Hey, you're not sweating.
1394
00:47:11,161 --> 00:47:13,413
Ah, I'm trying to quit.
1395
00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:15,582
And then, when he got--
was it Night Shift ?
1396
00:47:15,624 --> 00:47:16,917
I'm an idea man, Chuck.
1397
00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:18,001
I got ideas all day long.
1398
00:47:18,043 --> 00:47:19,586
I can't control them.
It's like,
1399
00:47:19,628 --> 00:47:20,838
they come charging in.
1400
00:47:20,879 --> 00:47:22,297
I can't even fight them
if I wanted to,
1401
00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:23,006
you know?
Ah!
1402
00:47:23,048 --> 00:47:24,216
Then Mr. Mom.
1403
00:47:24,258 --> 00:47:26,009
I mean, it kind of happened
quick.
1404
00:47:26,051 --> 00:47:29,179
That kind of took
his characterizations
1405
00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:30,848
that he was doing on stage
1406
00:47:30,889 --> 00:47:32,516
put it in a film,
1407
00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:35,018
and then boom, I'm Batman.
1408
00:47:35,060 --> 00:47:38,146
dramatic music
1409
00:47:38,188 --> 00:47:40,065
I don't know that I've ever
told anyone this.
1410
00:47:40,107 --> 00:47:43,277
I distinctly remember
the turning point,
1411
00:47:43,318 --> 00:47:44,903
and it was--I was in
a crummy little apartment
1412
00:47:44,945 --> 00:47:47,698
on Whitsett Avenue
in the Valley.
1413
00:47:47,739 --> 00:47:49,616
And I was not--
I was down, man.
1414
00:47:49,658 --> 00:47:52,995
I just wasn't doing anything
I thought was any good.
1415
00:47:53,036 --> 00:47:54,705
I don't think the audience
thought so, either.
1416
00:47:54,746 --> 00:47:56,748
I said, "This is it, man.
I don't know what I'm gonna do.
1417
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:58,125
I'm gonna freewheel it.
1418
00:47:58,166 --> 00:47:59,710
And I'm gonna improv,
and I'm just gonna go."
1419
00:47:59,751 --> 00:48:00,752
And I was so pumped,
1420
00:48:00,794 --> 00:48:02,629
and my energy was so high
1421
00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:04,256
when I got here,
1422
00:48:04,298 --> 00:48:05,549
and the sh--there was
an opening.
1423
00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:08,093
It was, like, a 9:30 spot
or something like that,
1424
00:48:08,135 --> 00:48:10,387
and she said, "Go--
if you get down here,"
1425
00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:12,097
or when I show up,
she says,
1426
00:48:12,139 --> 00:48:13,390
"Stick around.
I'll put you up in a minute."
1427
00:48:13,432 --> 00:48:15,058
Somebody didn't show
or something.
1428
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:16,393
It was called fallouts
back then.
1429
00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:18,020
- Do you remember?
- Yeah, there was a fallout.
1430
00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:20,397
We had a fallout,
so I hit the ground running,
1431
00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:22,941
the stage,
and I just commandeered it.
1432
00:48:22,983 --> 00:48:24,276
I just took over.
1433
00:48:24,318 --> 00:48:25,777
And I said, "I don't know
how this is gonna go,"
1434
00:48:25,819 --> 00:48:27,112
and that was it,
1435
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:29,406
and I started to get
consistently good spots.
1436
00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:33,660
And that was just me choosing
to say,
1437
00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:35,245
"I gotta turn this around,
1438
00:48:35,287 --> 00:48:36,997
'cause what I'm doing right now
is not making me very happy,
1439
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:38,332
and I'm--and I'm really
mediocre."
1440
00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:40,334
You know.
Um, and then I started
1441
00:48:40,375 --> 00:48:42,794
writing like crazy,
and I was really energized.
1442
00:48:42,836 --> 00:48:44,129
Michael Keaton's stand-up--
1443
00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:45,547
it was all conceptual.
1444
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:49,009
He would read a Bazooka Joe
bubble gum wrapper
1445
00:48:49,051 --> 00:48:51,094
that had a fortune in it.
1446
00:48:51,136 --> 00:48:52,554
Remember Bazooka Joe
bubble gum?
1447
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:53,680
[crowd assents]
1448
00:48:53,722 --> 00:48:55,349
I'll just read it to you.
Now, you might not laugh,
1449
00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:56,475
but I think
this is very funny.
1450
00:48:56,516 --> 00:48:57,768
He says--Bazooka Joe
1451
00:48:57,809 --> 00:48:59,519
has a clock in his hand,
you know?
1452
00:48:59,561 --> 00:49:00,520
And Tubby says,
1453
00:49:00,562 --> 00:49:02,105
"What are you doing,
Bazooka Joe?"
1454
00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:04,441
And he says, "I'm throwing
a clock out the window."
1455
00:49:04,483 --> 00:49:05,525
And he says, "Why?"
1456
00:49:05,567 --> 00:49:06,777
And Bazooka Joe says,
1457
00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:08,946
"I wanted to see time fly."
1458
00:49:08,987 --> 00:49:10,322
Okay?
1459
00:49:10,364 --> 00:49:12,824
All right, now wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
1460
00:49:12,866 --> 00:49:14,660
Tubby says to him,
1461
00:49:14,701 --> 00:49:16,787
"Time, Bazooka Joe?
1462
00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:17,788
That's
a rather ethereal subject,
1463
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:19,456
isn't it?"
1464
00:49:23,001 --> 00:49:24,336
And Bazooka Joe says, uh,
1465
00:49:24,378 --> 00:49:27,214
"Well, it depends on how
one views time.
1466
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:29,633
I mean, if you see time
traveling in a horizontal line
1467
00:49:29,675 --> 00:49:31,593
to infinity,
well, then, yes, I guess it is,
1468
00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:35,639
but outside of that, people
see it broken up in segments,"
1469
00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:36,807
and then Tubby comes back
1470
00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:38,308
with, I think,
something pretty clever.
1471
00:49:38,350 --> 00:49:39,601
Tubby comes back and says,
1472
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:42,729
"Yes, but wasn't it
Eugene O'Neill who said,
1473
00:49:42,771 --> 00:49:44,773
'Weary am I of the tumult
1474
00:49:44,815 --> 00:49:45,983
sick of the madding crowd,
1475
00:49:46,024 --> 00:49:47,776
longing for far sea places
1476
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:49,528
where the soul may think
aloud?'"
1477
00:49:49,569 --> 00:49:51,947
And then Bazooka Joe
looks at him and goes,
1478
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,699
"Hey, sorry I fucking asked,
okay?"
1479
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:56,660
contemplative music
1480
00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:02,457
[Baum] I guess we all found out
1481
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,251
at The Comedy Store, I think.
1482
00:50:04,292 --> 00:50:06,503
Everybody got
the wind knocked out of them.
1483
00:50:06,545 --> 00:50:08,046
That was
the most devastating part.
1484
00:50:08,088 --> 00:50:10,424
He was the first...
1485
00:50:10,465 --> 00:50:12,551
of "The Comedy Store
generation"
1486
00:50:12,592 --> 00:50:14,136
to make it and then die.
1487
00:50:14,177 --> 00:50:15,971
[woman] Come on!
You're looking good!
1488
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:18,515
Hey, hey, mama, so are you.
1489
00:50:18,557 --> 00:50:20,017
[Allen] He was something
special,
1490
00:50:20,058 --> 00:50:21,893
but he didn't realize
how special he was.
1491
00:50:21,935 --> 00:50:23,186
You ever think
a couple years ago,
1492
00:50:23,228 --> 00:50:24,062
when you first walked out here,
that two years,
1493
00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:25,814
or a little later than that,
1494
00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:28,525
you'd be, uh, on the top-rated
show in the country?
1495
00:50:28,567 --> 00:50:30,193
I didn't think
it would happen this quick.
1496
00:50:30,235 --> 00:50:31,528
- [Carson] Yeah.
- And I said,
1497
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:33,613
"Well, I'll make it somehow.
Hey, I know people."
1498
00:50:33,655 --> 00:50:35,657
You know.
1499
00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:37,200
I was a little jealous
1500
00:50:37,242 --> 00:50:39,536
because he went on
The Tonight Show once
1501
00:50:39,578 --> 00:50:41,329
and became a millionaire.
1502
00:50:41,371 --> 00:50:44,958
He had attained what everybody
was trying to get,
1503
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,753
so it was a warning.
1504
00:50:47,794 --> 00:50:49,004
[Thomerson] At that young age,
1505
00:50:49,046 --> 00:50:50,672
he really had the chops
1506
00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:52,549
to hang with Sinatra
1507
00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:54,009
and Dean Martin,
1508
00:50:54,051 --> 00:50:55,427
do those roasts
with all those guys.
1509
00:50:55,469 --> 00:50:57,679
I mean, he was
a 21-year-old kid
1510
00:50:57,721 --> 00:50:58,889
from the Bronx.
1511
00:50:58,930 --> 00:51:01,266
It was unbelievable that
he had that much talent.
1512
00:51:01,308 --> 00:51:03,268
You got the world
in the palm of your hand
1513
00:51:03,310 --> 00:51:04,686
but, you know,
he didn't realize it.
1514
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:06,980
He would be the nicest guy
1515
00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:08,690
in the world.
1516
00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:10,233
You do have a baby now.
Congratulations.
1517
00:51:10,275 --> 00:51:11,568
Yeah, I have a son.
1518
00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:13,820
Did you have the baby
by a natural method?
1519
00:51:13,862 --> 00:51:15,030
Yeah, it was natural, uh--
1520
00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:16,073
In--in your home,
or in the hospital?
1521
00:51:16,114 --> 00:51:17,824
No, not in my home, no.
1522
00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:19,159
[host] Some people do.
1523
00:51:19,201 --> 00:51:20,952
We started out--
we worked on him at home,
1524
00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:23,246
and, uh...
1525
00:51:23,288 --> 00:51:25,707
But there was
a tremendous amount of times
1526
00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:28,293
he would just come in
and freak out.
1527
00:51:28,335 --> 00:51:30,253
[Winger] I would just
slowly feel
1528
00:51:30,295 --> 00:51:32,422
that there was a deep sadness.
1529
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:34,132
You know, all comedians
like to feel
1530
00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,759
they have an open wound.
1531
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:39,096
You just need to know that...
1532
00:51:39,137 --> 00:51:40,931
you're not alone.
1533
00:51:40,972 --> 00:51:42,599
Freddie Prinze loved drugs.
1534
00:51:42,641 --> 00:51:45,102
He was too much into them
Quaaludes and all that.
1535
00:51:45,143 --> 00:51:46,436
I said, "This is getting
weird."
1536
00:51:46,478 --> 00:51:48,271
You know, he thinks I'm a spy.
1537
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:50,232
He thinks people
are listening on the phone
1538
00:51:50,273 --> 00:51:52,192
because he knows
who killed Kennedy.
1539
00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:53,485
And people would just say
to me,
1540
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,487
"You know, the two
of you stupid fucks,"
1541
00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:57,447
or "you're just"--you know,
"you're just assholes,"
1542
00:51:57,489 --> 00:51:58,782
or "he's fucking with you."
1543
00:51:58,824 --> 00:52:02,119
Nobody knew
what cocaine psychosis was.
1544
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,829
No, I've never been in here.
1545
00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:05,288
Everything's left
the way it was?
1546
00:52:05,330 --> 00:52:06,957
This is like a time capsule.
1547
00:52:06,998 --> 00:52:10,210
That's Alan Bursky right there,
on the far right.
1548
00:52:10,252 --> 00:52:12,629
Remember, he was
really tight with Freddie.
1549
00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:15,632
Yeah, he was with, uh--
he gave Freddie the gun.
1550
00:52:15,674 --> 00:52:17,509
[Binder] Well, that's
what they said,
1551
00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:19,469
but it turns out
that he didn't,
1552
00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:20,804
according to Jimmie Walker.
1553
00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:22,097
Yeah, I don't know.
1554
00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:23,390
I--there's several stories.
1555
00:52:23,431 --> 00:52:24,724
I mean, Alan used to brag
1556
00:52:24,766 --> 00:52:26,768
that he was with him
when he bought the gun.
1557
00:52:26,810 --> 00:52:28,520
I didn't give him the gun.
I never--
1558
00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:30,188
I never even owned my own gun
1559
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:32,065
till after Freddie died.
1560
00:52:32,107 --> 00:52:33,775
[Binder] But you guys bought
a gun together, you told--
1561
00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,819
No, I went with him
to buy the gun.
1562
00:52:35,861 --> 00:52:37,571
He comes over to my house
one day, and he says,
1563
00:52:37,612 --> 00:52:39,990
"What kind of gun
did James Bond have?
1564
00:52:40,031 --> 00:52:42,159
I said, "A Walther PPK,"
1565
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,493
and he says,
"Where can I buy that?"
1566
00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:45,078
And I say, "In this town,
anywhere.
1567
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,413
Any sporting goods store."
1568
00:52:46,454 --> 00:52:47,789
[Binder] And who went
to buy it?
1569
00:52:47,831 --> 00:52:50,083
Well, I was there,
1570
00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:52,502
and Bursky, and Freddie.
1571
00:52:52,544 --> 00:52:55,005
He had an obsession
with Lenny Bruce,
1572
00:52:55,046 --> 00:52:57,340
and he had kind of a thing
1573
00:52:57,382 --> 00:52:59,134
about death and Bruce Lee.
1574
00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:00,427
Everybody tried to say,
you know,
1575
00:53:00,468 --> 00:53:02,179
"It isn't"--you know,
"Don't--don't do that
1576
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:04,514
'be a star, you know,
young, you know,
1577
00:53:04,556 --> 00:53:06,433
live hard young
and then die.'
1578
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:08,435
You know, don't do
this rock star thing.
1579
00:53:08,476 --> 00:53:10,312
Just live
a beautiful, full life.
1580
00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:11,855
- You deserve it."
- Freddie would call you
1581
00:53:11,897 --> 00:53:13,231
at, like, three o'clock
in the morning.
1582
00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:14,941
He'd say, "Man, I'm depressed.
1583
00:53:14,983 --> 00:53:16,234
I got a gun to my head.
1584
00:53:16,276 --> 00:53:17,527
I'm getting ready to kill
myself."
1585
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:19,070
Freddie--you know, it's, like,
4:30 in the morning.
1586
00:53:19,112 --> 00:53:20,113
He says, "Oh, no, no, no.
1587
00:53:20,155 --> 00:53:21,364
If I'm dead, you know,
1588
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:22,532
no big deal, you know.
Whatever."
1589
00:53:22,574 --> 00:53:24,117
"All right,
1590
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:25,660
I'm coming over."
1591
00:53:25,702 --> 00:53:27,162
So you come over,
1592
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:29,539
and there's, like,
eight people there.
1593
00:53:29,581 --> 00:53:30,874
You go, "Freddie, I thought
you didn't have..."
1594
00:53:30,916 --> 00:53:33,627
He says, "I just wanted to see
if you would come."
1595
00:53:33,668 --> 00:53:35,962
I thought he was fucking
with me!
1596
00:53:36,004 --> 00:53:37,214
I thought this was--
1597
00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:39,216
Freddie liked practical jokes
and shit.
1598
00:53:39,257 --> 00:53:40,800
It was a car wreck
in slow motion
1599
00:53:40,842 --> 00:53:42,928
that people saw coming
for quite some time.
1600
00:53:42,969 --> 00:53:44,846
You know what I said to him
the last time I spoke to him
1601
00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:45,972
on the phone?
1602
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:47,224
It was, you know, that--
1603
00:53:47,265 --> 00:53:49,226
uh, a few hours
before he shot himself.
1604
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:51,436
I said to him, "You know,
for the love of God,
1605
00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:53,480
you have everything
1606
00:53:53,521 --> 00:53:56,524
that me and Jay Leno
and Elayne Boosler
1607
00:53:56,566 --> 00:53:58,235
are killing ourselves for.
1608
00:53:58,276 --> 00:54:00,904
What is missing
from your life?
1609
00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:02,614
He says, "I don't know,"
1610
00:54:02,656 --> 00:54:04,741
he says, "But I end it.
I'm gonna end it now."
1611
00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:07,244
You know, I've heard this
from him a thousand times.
1612
00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:09,162
And the last thing
I said to him:
1613
00:54:09,204 --> 00:54:12,123
I said, "Look...
1614
00:54:12,165 --> 00:54:15,794
go in the bathroom
and do it neatly."
1615
00:54:15,835 --> 00:54:17,587
And then at four o'clock
in the morning,
1616
00:54:17,629 --> 00:54:19,464
my mother called me.
She was in New York.
1617
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:23,385
And she said, "Did--did Freddie
have an accident?"
1618
00:54:23,426 --> 00:54:25,303
Freddie Prinze,
a big success
1619
00:54:25,345 --> 00:54:26,972
at the age of 22,
1620
00:54:27,013 --> 00:54:29,224
but depressed nevertheless,
1621
00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:31,101
shot himself
in the head today.
1622
00:54:31,142 --> 00:54:34,104
Tonight, the hospital says
his condition is critical.
1623
00:54:34,145 --> 00:54:36,022
[man] He has sustained
a single gunshot wound
1624
00:54:36,064 --> 00:54:37,274
with the bullet passing
1625
00:54:37,315 --> 00:54:38,692
completely through
the temporal region.
1626
00:54:38,733 --> 00:54:40,443
Mr. Prinze remains
in critical condition
1627
00:54:40,485 --> 00:54:42,195
in the intensive care unit.
1628
00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:46,241
And, uh--and he lasted
1629
00:54:46,283 --> 00:54:48,285
33 hours on life support.
1630
00:54:48,326 --> 00:54:51,496
Always be around
1631
00:54:51,538 --> 00:54:54,416
Jackson Browne's
"For a Dancer" playing
1632
00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:04,467
Now you're
nowhere to be found
1633
00:55:13,852 --> 00:55:18,315
I don't know what happens
when people die
1634
00:55:18,356 --> 00:55:21,651
Can't seem to grasp it,
as hard as I try
1635
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:22,819
It's like a song
1636
00:55:22,861 --> 00:55:24,154
[Allen] The people
I've met here
1637
00:55:24,195 --> 00:55:25,947
and the people
who've become friends here
1638
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:27,073
could only happen here,
1639
00:55:27,115 --> 00:55:29,284
and those personalities
are so unique,
1640
00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:31,328
but that was--that was one
1641
00:55:31,369 --> 00:55:34,789
that just, you know,
broke my heart, you know,
1642
00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:37,667
because he was, uh--
he was one of my heroes.
1643
00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:42,422
Crying as they
ease you down
1644
00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:45,508
Freddie was so good to me,
but Freddie was...
1645
00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:47,761
was kind of on a
self-destructive kind of thing,
1646
00:55:47,802 --> 00:55:50,347
Well, I was too.
I think that's kind of why I...
1647
00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:53,600
why, you know,
I related to him.
1648
00:55:53,641 --> 00:55:55,518
Right on dancing
1649
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,188
No matter what fate chooses
to play
1650
00:55:58,229 --> 00:56:01,816
There's nothing you can do
about it anyway
1651
00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:04,361
[Leno] And there was
sort of that reflected glory.
1652
00:56:04,402 --> 00:56:05,695
"Yeah, I knew Freddie.
Yeah, yeah.
1653
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:06,905
Oh, yeah, we started
out together."
1654
00:56:06,946 --> 00:56:08,698
You know,
everybody at the Store
1655
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:10,200
who had ever shared the stage
1656
00:56:10,241 --> 00:56:13,036
or been on a stage with him
at the same evening--
1657
00:56:13,078 --> 00:56:14,371
there's a kinship.
1658
00:56:14,412 --> 00:56:15,997
I had just turned 18.
1659
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:17,207
I had just gotten out here
1660
00:56:17,248 --> 00:56:19,542
maybe the week
Freddie Prinze killed himself.
1661
00:56:19,584 --> 00:56:20,710
I didn't know any of them.
1662
00:56:20,752 --> 00:56:22,379
I had just been made
a regular.
1663
00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:24,506
They were all so close to him,
and he was--
1664
00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:26,341
you know, he was a big success,
1665
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:27,592
and they looked up to him.
1666
00:56:27,634 --> 00:56:29,969
It changes the whole dynamic
of the place.
1667
00:56:30,011 --> 00:56:31,054
They were devastated.
1668
00:56:31,096 --> 00:56:33,932
Leno and Johnny Dark
and Boosler.
1669
00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:35,975
- [Maron] Mm.
- [Binder] Mule Deer.
1670
00:56:36,017 --> 00:56:38,019
Thomerson.
1671
00:56:38,061 --> 00:56:40,438
With Mitzi, crying.
1672
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,607
And they'd go on stage.
You know, they'd do their job.
1673
00:56:42,649 --> 00:56:44,234
They'd make people laugh.
1674
00:56:44,275 --> 00:56:45,402
And it's the first time
I realized
1675
00:56:45,443 --> 00:56:46,986
what The Comedy Store was.
1676
00:56:47,028 --> 00:56:49,030
Wasn't just a nightclub.
It wasn't just a building.
1677
00:56:49,072 --> 00:56:50,031
It was home.
1678
00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:53,201
It's what unites a whole bunch
of us
1679
00:56:53,243 --> 00:56:56,871
who live
all throughout the world.
1680
00:56:56,913 --> 00:57:00,750
That's--that's the thing
that unites us all,
1681
00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:04,629
our time at The Comedy Store.
1682
00:57:04,671 --> 00:57:07,757
- [applause, whistling]
- Thank you.
1683
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:10,802
My luck's gonna run out
sometime.
1684
00:57:10,844 --> 00:57:13,263
Freddie just said, "My luck's
gonna run out sometime."
1685
00:57:13,304 --> 00:57:14,973
No, it's not.
It's going good for you.
1686
00:57:15,014 --> 00:57:16,808
Those are funny--that's gonna
become a tagline of yours.
1687
00:57:16,850 --> 00:57:19,477
That's not my job, man.
That's not my job.
1688
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:20,645
- Yeah.
- Going very well.
1689
00:57:20,687 --> 00:57:21,604
You have Mr. Kelly's.
Now, that's--
1690
00:57:21,646 --> 00:57:22,689
that's a step up, isn't it?
1691
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:24,190
Yeah.
Last time I worked there,
1692
00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:25,608
I was in the kitchen.
1693
00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:28,278
[laughter, applause]
1694
00:57:31,489 --> 00:57:32,699
Keep a fire...
1695
00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:33,867
That's not your job, man.
1696
00:57:33,908 --> 00:57:35,785
- It's not my job.
- Not your job.
1697
00:57:35,827 --> 00:57:40,290
Let your prayers
go drifting into space
1698
00:57:40,331 --> 00:57:45,378
You never know
what will be coming down
1699
00:57:49,924 --> 00:57:53,928
Perhaps a better world
is drawing near
1700
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:57,307
Along with
whatever meaning
1701
00:57:57,348 --> 00:57:59,976
You might have found
1702
00:58:03,521 --> 00:58:06,191
Don't let the uncertainty
1703
00:58:06,232 --> 00:58:07,775
Turn you around
1704
00:58:07,817 --> 00:58:09,819
The world keeps turning
around and around
1705
00:58:09,861 --> 00:58:14,157
Go on and make
a joyful sound
1706
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:18,953
Into a dancer
you have grown
1707
00:58:18,995 --> 00:58:22,624
From a seed
somebody else has thrown
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